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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Prather and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Well, today's show, we're doing the five piece
of tomorrow's medicine through the lens of structure function medicine. So,
(00:34):
doctor Praither, can you briefly explain what the five piece
of tomorrow's medicine are and how they're transforming healthcare.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, the five piece are predictive, preventive, personalized, participatory, and
precision medicine. So those are the five piece that they're
trying to achieve in the medical realm and make that
some thing that will hopefully transform medicine.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, we're going to go through each of those, Sure,
but before we do, for listeners who may be new
to it, how would you define structure function medicine Because
that's what we do at Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
SURE, and that's an important thing to understand. If you
go to the FDA and you're going to introduce some
procedure or product, the first thing they do is decide
whether it's a structure function portion of healthcare or if
it's disease care. In contrasting those kind of helps to
(01:37):
define which one is which disease care is. Disease is
a set of symptoms that they've put together and then
put a name to it, so and disease care is
based on symptomatology. So what you're trying to do is
have a pharmaceutical which is classified as a poison. All
pharmaceuticals have to be a poison to actually be classified
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as a pharmaceutical. And those things are to help to
alleviate the symptoms of abnormal process in the body. Structure
function care, on the other hand, is where we are
looking at balance in the body, and it's important to
achieve balance through structure and function. One of the basic
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laws of life is that structure affects function and function
effects structure, and so they have to go in they
have to work together to get the full benefit. And
basically it's balance. You're balancing the body structurally and functionally
or physiologically, and balance is the definition of homeostasis, and
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homeostasis is the definition of health. So basically, what you're
trying to do with structure function is to make the
body healthier. Disease care is to alleviate symptoms.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So how does this model, this structure function model of
care compliment or contrast with traditional or allopathic medicine.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, whereas you were looking at allopathic medicine, one of
the big things that was a tenant of that is
you have a disease and then you have a pharmaceutical
that matches it. Now, what they're hoping to do is
that it works on eighty percent of the people and
you're out of luck if you're one of the twenty
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percent that it doesn't work on. So there wasn't a
precision or individualized type of a thing. There really wasn't.
The old doctors when people started to get on the
Internet and stuff, it's like, these people just aren't doing
what I tell them anymore. They want to ask questions.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh, the doctors were saying that.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Whereas before it was just like there was no participation
from the patient. The doctor decided for the patient what
was best for them. So there was no participation. There
was no personalized type of thing. There was no precision.
Nothing was preventative. And also there really wasn't. They weren't
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trying to predict anything, you know, and nobody was looking
for the underlying cause.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So the five p's are often used to describe the
future of medicine. Sure, but what drew you to this
intersection of structural function and the five p's.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, structure function care has always had the five piece.
So that's one of the things that as we studied
structure function care, all of these five things were integral
into you know, that was hammered into us when we
were doing structure function care studying it. Yeah, these five
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p's were like keynotes.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I know, and they're saying the five piece are you know,
used to describe the future of medicine when when it's
always been here. In structure functions.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's always been here and structure function care.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Interesting, So which of the five p's do you think
is currently the most developed in structure function care and
which is still in their infancy?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You know, I think one of the things is really
the preventative part, you know, structure function care.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Everybody's even the.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Metal most developed. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, they sit there and they say, well, you know,
that's really good for preventative type of care. And what
they don't realize is it's also necessary when it's already
full blown too, you know, and oftentimes One of the
things is I'm introducing people to the doctors who are
wanting to get into structure function care and they say, well, yeah,
(05:42):
you mean like preventative care. Well, no, preventative care is
a very important part of structure function care. But really
anyone who's going through any type of health crisis needs
structure function care as well as the disease care model.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So our philosophy is that eighty percent of all healthcare
should be delivered structure functionally, twenty percent disease care. We
believe in both of them are necessary and an important
part of the healthcare system, but it's not just preventative.
And a lot of the medical doctors or even the
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public have the idea that structure function care is just
purely preventative, and then once you actually have a disease,
then you go completely disease care.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Model, right, and you're saying no, no, no, we're not
going to change healthcare that way.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No, we're not.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And the people who even need it more at that
point of course, everybody needs it, I mean that should
be something that's involved, and preventative is the best way
to treat anyone. You can't use disease care model to
prevent anything. You know, there are pharmaceuticals. Pharmaceuticals don't prevent problems.
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That's just not that's not the way that they're designed
and that's not where their strength is.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So on these five p's, you felt the most developed
for structure function is the preventative. Although all five are
being used.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
All five are very much I mean, you have to
have it personalized to make it work.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, and we're going to go through which is still
in their infancy. Do you think in the function in.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The structure function, one of the things that is really
an area of extreme growth is the predictive because we're
getting into the genetic models, the lab tests that are
coming out that are predicting what's going on or what's
going to happen, and the diagnostic tests is really an
(07:51):
amazing type of a future and something that I have
to keep up on a regular basis.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So the labs that we use for predictive model are
changing their labs almost like I have to keep up
because they change them every three months.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, let's talk about that. So let's go into predictive medicine.
That's a first P and you've kind of hit on this,
but structure. Function practitioners like yourself often identify early imbalance
before disease appears. So you're looking for those imbalances. Is
that your version of predictive medicine.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, that's one of the things of course, now we're
getting into when you're talking about predictive is genetic. So
like we see that the liver becomes congested, kidneys start
working not as well, so we can do something where
we can determine like the gamaral filtration rate, which is
a measurement of how well the kidneys are working. When
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you have disease care model, you wait until it fails
and then you do dialysis. We start. We want everyone
to be at a ninety percent is our goal of function,
and so anyone who is falling below that, then we're
trying to get the kidneys working at more of an
optimal levels.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, and we had holistic integration. I'm pretty good at that.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
We're very very good at seeing that come up. So
we're like, you know, I sit there and I said, well,
you know, your kidneys are only working at fifty percent.
And he said, well, were you getting that from labs
you brought in from your medical doctor? He said, well,
that's not good, is it? And I go, no, that's
not good, And he said, well, why aren't they discussing
that with me? And it's because they don't have anything
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for it.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
One of the things that they looked at as a
predictive type of thing is colesterol levels. So that was
one thing that they had some pharmaceuticals for, so they
were using that as a predictive. If you have high
cholesterol levels, abnormal lipids, then that's predictive of a card
vascular incident. But with the kidneys, they don't have anything
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for that, so they don't really talk about it. See
how that kind of works, right right. The other thing
that of course was predictive is that your liver enzymes,
you know, they start to go off, then that's a
sign that you can develop different types of problems. So
getting that those liver enzymes into a normal range and
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on and on and on.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, all right, first segment went quick, and we need
to talk more on the predictive medicine. We'll be right
back on the five piece of tomorrow's medicine. Does your
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
No pharmaceutical has ever been tested on children. Who's going
to volunteer their kids to get tested with a pharmaceutical?
Children are completely different than adults. How pharmaceutical responds on
a child and how pharmaceuticals actually respond on adult are
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Matter of fact, they have just taken off children's cough
syrups and they've been on the market for what forty years?
(13:56):
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Well, of course we get the history. We recommend lab
tests to find out whether their immune system is up
to park. If not, what are the things that need
to be done to actually get that where it needs.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
To be got? To check the vitamin D through blood,
zinc through hair analysis.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Iodine level actually has a great deal to do with
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Speaker 3 (15:36):
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Speaker 1 (15:45):
Good. You're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor
Robert Praiser of Holistic Integration, the most comprehensive wellness center
in the Midwest. We're talking today about the five piece
of tomorrow's medicine through the lens of structure function medicine
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and structure function medicine is what we do at Holistic Integration,
and we define that and we do that quite often
because it's a new paradigm, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Not a new paradigm. It's just not a well.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Known period well known, right.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So the FDA actually divided that up at their very
inception back in the early nineteen hundreds. Yeah, which is interesting,
So that idea has been around, it's just not known
even by most doctors. As matter of fact, when I
got into structure function care, I did not know that
(16:43):
it was called structure function care. My teachers didn't know
it was called structure function right.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Chat GPT did chat che right and defined it very well. Yeseah, Well,
I just remember when we first opened our practice almost
forty years ago, it was prey through wellness center. You know,
no one was calling in this area wellness. You know,
now we're holistic integration and wellness now is botox and.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
CBD marijuana, right, So yeah, the meanings can kind of
go all over.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So we're bringing out the structure function you know, and
to a lot of people in the public, it's a
new paradigm sure.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And one of the things I mean just on the
description of the holistic we do look at the whole body, right,
which a lot of people come into the office and say, hey,
I want my whole body looked at.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah. And then integration.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
We do have the medical doctor on staff, we have
nurse pectitioner or physician assistant, and we do believe in
a lot of the you know, disease care and utilize
and then integrate. What the idea is is that we
want structure function and the disease care model to integrate
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for the best benefit fit of the.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Patient, right, right, it's all about the patient.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
All about the patient.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So back to the first p predictive medicine how to
tools like functional lab testing, and that's what we do
at Holistic Integration, functional lab testing or systems biology and
form your ability to you know, predict dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh it's I mean we were trained on predicting, you know,
that certain things would lead to different types of outcomes.
That's what we were trained on. I mean, that's how
we were why lab testing was so important to us.
But now the availability that we have on labs to
get a prediction is way beyond anything that I had imagined.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Right, But this is functional lab testing.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
This is fun.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
You're not We're not looking just at the normal ranges, right,
I tell people.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Right, we are looking at and there are labs that
have completely come out on a predictive type of basis,
you know, to see what is the things and what
are the indications of what's going to be happening, So
we can actually pick up on problems way before they come. Yeah,
we can say, hey, you know, you've probably got a
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good chance of developing an upper motor neuron disease. You
have a very good chance of having cardiovascular disease, you're
at risk for cancer, you know, all these types of
things to get with very definite lab tests and then
be able to get those under control and recheck them
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and say, you know, wow, we really avoided a problem here.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, So can we become too focused on prediction and
overlook the body's own adaptability?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know, That's one of the things that they have
said as far as on genetic testing. You know, just
because you have a I've had people who did genetic
testing as far as on risk factors and then have
taken some drastic like having the rest removed, having surgery,
you know, And it's a tendency just because you have
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the genes along those lines, those genes have to be expressed,
and you can actually prevent that that gene expression from
happening by doing different types of things. So there can
be some They have found that there can be some
radical types of things that can occur that can really
cause a lot of problems. An example as far as
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how the brain works, I had a with the AIDS
crisis coming up HIV and the testing at that time
wasn't as good. They always said that you do the
tests at least twice to be able to really determine
that you have HIV, because the first one was oftentimes wrong.
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And I had a gentleman who came in and said,
you know, I'm HIV positive. He had the four eight shifts,
he had the sores. In other words, he had all
the symptoms of AIDS. And I said, okay, you know,
I see your first test. I see where that was positive.
When did your symptoms start? He said right afterwards. I
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sat there and I said, and where's your second test?
And he said, well, I haven't had one. I said, oh, well,
you know, just by standards. And he said, I don't
really want to do it. You know, I know I've
got it, you know, I look at it on me.
He said, no, no, we just follow the rules. Let's
do the second test, and it came back negative. And
I sat there and so I said, well, let's do
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it a third time. And he was negative. And he said, well,
what does this mean? I said, you don't have HIV.
He said, well, why do I have all these symptoms?
I said, well, I don't know. You know, we'll do
further experiment, but you don't have HIV. Within a week,
all of the symptoms cleared up his T four eight
went back to no.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Wow, all of his so he had given himself, he.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Had read it and developed all the symptoms. So the
mind is a very powerful thing, right, So you can't
you don't want to test and then implant into people.
This is what you have and this is what's going
to happen, because otherwise it will. Yeah, the suggestion on that, Yeah,
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the mind is very, very powerful and that needs to
be taken in consideration with all this that we explain
to people that these are indications that are very pliable,
even the brain neuroplasticity, the genetics are very plastic. Everything
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can be changed, everything can be helped, and everything can
be prevented.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That is so encouraging. That should be so encouraging.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It is, and people, you know, it's the mind. Having
the right attitude makes all the difference in the world.
And I've had a lot of people who created the
diseases in their mind and trying to get that's the
hardest ones to actually fix.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
The ones, Yeah, that have that in their minds.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That have built that in. So that was a great
lesson for me.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So, how do you see predictive tools like genetic testing,
fitting into structure, function care.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Well, extremely helpful.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Like you know, I check and I sit there and say, well,
you have a problem genetically making cocu tin. You know,
So these are the different types of supplementation you need.
Methylation is a big thing, you know, the normal foliates
you can't really take they, you know. In other words,
there are things that you can do to overcome different
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types of problems that you have that a genetic that
can be mitigated if you are supplementing in the right
way and helping people to know how to change and
even like diets, diets are what is good for one person,
one person's healing as another person's poison. And knowing that
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and then working with people on where they at.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Like I had one gentleman who had a lot of
Cherokee in him Cherokee matter of fact, I think he
was like sixty percent and he was a medical doctor,
surgeon actually, and he had extremely high triglyrides and he
had been to John Hopkins, Mayo Cleveland, top people that
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were dealing with it. Nothing, None of the medications worked.
They said, it's going to cause cardiovascular disease. I sit
there and he said, well, I understand your genetics. And
what I want you to do is stop eating beef
and pork. And I said, I want you to eat antelope, elk,
bighorn sheep and those types of things, and his triglyriids
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went down to normal.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Hmmm, yeah, because the Native American they're susceptible to fatty liver. Correct.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Well, there's a lot of things that it's a different
genetic and as you're looking at people's different genetics. You know,
if you're from Mediterranean, you're from northern Europe, if you're
from Africa, you know your ancestors, or if you're from Asia,
there are different types of dietary things and things that
your body is genetically is not used to. There's different
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sunshine requirements there are. In other words, there's a lot
of things that go on with all that from your
genes that needs to be taken an account and then modified.
It's just like I remember walking around with these little
milk cartons to get dimes in to send milk to
the starving kids in Africa, and then they would take
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them to the and give them milk, and then they
would drink it and their stomachs would swellow up and
then it would oftentimes cause death because they can't drink milk,
you know, mm hmm. And so you know, understanding those
types of things and helping people to shift the dietary
types of needs and different supplements and different things that
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need to be done according to your own ancestral needs
is something that needs to be taken in consideration.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
All right, well, I think we wrapped up the first
P predictive medicine. When we come back, we're going to
talk about the second P preventative medicine. Will be right back.
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Speaker 3 (26:56):
I just had my prescription changed after six years.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You ever wait that long? Then you get new lenses.
You're like, man, I could have been saying things, how
can instantly improve vision not be at the top of
your to do list?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I'll see tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't have time.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I don't have time to see clearly, no, I don't, No,
I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
You see what's on my desk.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
As children develop and grow, they actually need more support
for their health. If you'd like to learn about the
structure function approach to children's healthcare that gets better results
with less risk than the disease care model of drugs
and pharmaceuticals, then join us for our free Holistic integration
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twenty seventh at six point thirty pm. You'll hear from
doctor Robert Praither, host of the Voice of Health Radio.
Can structure function care be important for treatment of ADHD?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It's absolutely essential. There are reasons for everything. Yes, the
pharmaceuticals are at effective means of doing that, but you're
not really curing anything. You're not really fixing anything. It's
helping with the symptomatology while it's in the system only
and causing long term problems and even some short term problems.
So yes, that is something that's an option, but you
(28:25):
should be pursuing structure function care to find out exactly
what's going on to help with the underlying problem. If
it's heavy metals the sooner that you can get onto
that the less brain changes actually occur, because those neurotoxins
are what is actually causing the problem with brain changes
(28:45):
structurally and functionally.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
We've had some great results with the regular therapy and
its effect on add and ADHD.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
We've got actually about three kids right now who are
presently getting a regular therapy. One was just having an
awful time after three treatments. It was, as the mom said, miraculous.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Having trouble at school, having.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Trouble at school, being threatened to be kicked out. Teacher says,
I wish we had started this earlier, huge difference on
the calming focus. We had one child who was definitely
acting up quite a bit. Mom brought him in. Dad
wasn't really for it, said that medicine was the best
way to go. After a few hours there, he said, Okay,
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what did you do? This is a different child.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And there's not the side effects of the medication.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's a balancing of the system, not the pharmaceutical atomic
bomb that hits people.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
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I'm Lisa Prather and you're listening to the Voice of
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Health with doctor Robert Prather of Holistic Integration where we
get to the root cause of your health issue. Talking
today about the five piece of tomorrow's medicine through the
lens of structure function medicine, structure function medicine that healthcare
models what we do at Holistic Integration, and we've been
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doing that for four years. Forty years, yeah, forty years. Okay.
So the second P is preventative medicine and structure function
work is an air proactive. We've been talking about that.
What are your favorite strategies to prevent breakdown and function
before it becomes a diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, when you're talking about preventative medicine, not just physiologically
it's what you think about. But also structurally, you know,
keeping the body aligned is a very important part, and
I just kind of want to bring that out as
far as i'm chiropractice. And then the rehab head translation
a big problem that's going on with the head. We're
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seeing all sorts of skeletal issues that you know, I'm
sounding like an old guy now that you never saw before.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So the technology, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, before all the changes. You know, it used to
be that there are certain patterns that go into it,
and really almost ninety five percent of the people fit
into those patterns. And we had what we called the aberance,
and so that was our higher level study. What do
we do when somebody doesn't fit the pattern? Now ninety
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percent of the people don't fit the pattern?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
What not?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
How much ninety percent? Wow, don't fit? It's just like, yeah,
it's flipped.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So now it's when I have another chiropractor in our office,
doctor Dodge, and I sat there and I said, oh,
we got somebody who actually is normal here, come in
and take a look at it. You know, the abnormal
is normal now and the normal is abnormal.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So X rays have become a lot more interesting. Huh.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Well, Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It's like, what the heck.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We started sending those in to you know, our group
and say, you know, I've never seen this before, and
then all of a sudden it becomes very common. So
we're seeing a lot of a lot of changes and
keeping that in an so it's not just physiologically, which
is very important, but also structurally, and that's one thing
as far as preventing problems because again the structure will
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affects the function. That's why we get such good results
in our office because if you're dealing just you know,
because there's a lot of functional doctors out there, but
they don't also do the structural. You have a lot
of doctors who do structural about the function, and really
you have to have both. That's why we put them
into our office that way to get those results. But
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one of the things is you're talking about preventative medicine.
The big thing that when I was first taught this
was cholesterol and how important that was. And at that
time people you know, you won't believe it, but three
hundred was the tomplament and that was considered normal in cholesterol,
and we were telling people no that's not normal.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
That needs to be corrected.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
And at that time medical doctors would come back and say,
I don't listen to him that I know he's talking
about Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
That was that was like in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It was soon after that that they actually they came
up with the lipid lowering drugs. Then they changed the
ranges to accommodate that, but they still have it wrong.
The cholesterol is an indication of a problem, not the problem.
So it would be I always put it in is
that they did a very thorough and excellent scientific study
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on fires, and the brilliant minds came up that wherever
there were fires, that there were firemen. So if we
just reduced the number of firemen, then we should cut
down on the number of fires. The same thing with cholesterol.
Cholesterol as the fireman. It's an indication of a problem,
it's not the problem. And with all the people that
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we've had on cholesterol lowering drugs, which is supposed to
be a preventative medicine, this is where they've gotten it wrong.
It hasn't changed the number of cardiovascular incidents, has made
no dent. And if it was accurate, then we would
see a complete change in the number of cardiovascular So
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most cardiologists, mostly younger, the smart cardiologists already know that,
but they still have to kind of follow the rules.
They know it's inflammation in the arteries is the problem.
That's where you actually have to measure. Cholesterol is a
great indicator because cholesterol is the healing. It's sort of
you know, with the damaged endothelial aligning cholesterols put in
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there to actually try to heal it.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, you need it, so it's important.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's an preventative type of thing. But my concern is
with the disease care model is that it's driven by
profits and pharmaceuticals and not by what is best for
the patient. Because one, we are using cholesterol as a
preventative type of a marker, and they flipped it and
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have actually made it.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
More of a problem.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I think that the farm that the livid lowering drugs
actually cause more harm than they are helping.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah. One thing I noticed too is people are just
they want to diagnosis, you know, it's almost that becomes
more important than what is the root. You know, what
is the root of my problem? So how do you
educate or motivate patients to prioritize prevention, especially when symptoms
aren't obvious yet.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, so you can have a disease process and have
a lot of different causes. Matter of fact, one of
the things that they teach in the medical model is well,
you know, I know, I've attended lectures in medical school
and it's like, well, you know what, cause that doesn't
matter what's wrong with you, that's not you don't look
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at that. That's not what it is you're supposed to
just these are the symptoms. These are the answers to
the symptoms. It doesn't matter what the cause is.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
But that is that's changing. I mean, is it.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Is it among the patient?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Among the patients patients.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
That's where I see it.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, the control, I mean it's more of everybody's looking
for an easy answer.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, the GLP.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Ones, you know, weight loss, and they're not looking for
what's the underlying cause? What are they putting into our
food to make everybody fat? You know, what are we
doing to ourselves? Why is Oreo Cookies when we sell
it to Canada and Europe only has four ingredients and
when we get it there's twenty with all the chemicals
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in it. I mean, you know, the preventative type of
thing that we have going on is a I'm just
hoping that as they push on this that it's used
in the right way and not I've been disappointed before.
There was a time in there where they did a
big study because they had been talking about pain is
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a fifth sign, and then they came up with opiated
says the answer. And then they saw that we created
this whole, huge crisis with all these people dying, and
we had actually caused more problem than more harm than good.
And so they commissioned a study the very top people
and they basically came up with you know, chiropractic, acupuncture,
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physical therapy, and then certain types of counseling.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And I was very excited.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I remember that you were excited. I'm like the attorney general.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, it was the surgeon general. And the pharmaceuticals got
a hold of it and eliminated and said the answer
to the opid crisis is more drugs and to the
pain crisis is more drugs. And they shifted it and
it was just like so disappointing to see. And I'm
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hoping that this is a real move on the healthcare spectrum.
But I know Robert Kennedy is in his position, is
just having so much opposition just for trying to make
little changes and is this something that can be done,
and just to say it's not going to be accomplished
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from the top down. It's going to have to be
a grassroots type of thing where the people become informed
and demand it and the people really have the power.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Well, that's why we do this show, is to educate
the public.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, to understand. Yeah, and prevention is very very important.
The lab tests can really give an indication of what's
going on into the future, and prevention is the best
way to treat. It's just like Eli Lilly when he
was asked about one of the pharmaceuticals that was causing
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inside effects and he said, there are pharmaceuticals. If they
didn't cause side effects, then they wouldn't be classified as pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
You don't see that quote up anywhere.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And he's it there and he said, I've never taken
a pharmaceutical in my life and don't plan on it.
I treat myself homeopathically and herbally. That way I can
prevent the healthcare so I never get to the point
that I need disease care.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, all right. When we come back, we're still on
that second p preventative medicine. We'll be right back. Never
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Speaker 2 (42:31):
Homeostasis is Balanced and Homeostasis is health so the better
you are into homeostasis, the healthier you are, and structure
function care is about making you healthier by bringing about
homeostasis in the system. Oftentimes parents will say, well, I
don't really need to get my kids checked out. Kids
are just naturally healthy. That's not actually true. Kids are
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greater risk than adults are for many things. So getting
your kids checked and making sure that they're in homeostasis
is one of the most important.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, and don't wait till they verbalize it, right.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Kids don't know, you know, so having regular checks, making
sure and pediatricians are fine, but they're dealing with disease care.
They're not really working or trained in providing homeostasis for
your child. So finding someone who works with homeostasis, especially
in children, really helps them throughout their entire life and
something that should be established at a very young age.
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Children's immune system is based off of the thymus, just
to kind of simplify it. It's much more complicated than that.
Whereas adults we have a bone marrow based immune system.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Oh, that's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
A thymus for a child is about four times bigger
than adults because it actually works once they reach puberty
and they've reached their maximum growth, the thymis will actually shrink.
We really look towards the thigmis work with it differently.
So even the different types of products that we would
give for a child as opposed to adult, there is
a definite difference on that. To boost the immune system.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Are to support the thymus. How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
There are ways to support the thymus. There are several
different herbs that can be involved, homeopathics, but one of
the best things that we give is something called thymus clangulars.
We give them all the necessary nutrients to build their thiymus.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
But children is.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Extremely effective and can really really boost the immune system
because that really has a big effect, especially on any
type of viral infections.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
So what can damage the thymus.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Now, thymus is very sensitive. One of the things that
they found is that vaccinations damage the thymus. They've done
pre impost studies on the thymus. About eighty percent of
the time after a vaccination there's a shrinking of the thymus.
Now we're not completely sure, but any type of stressors
on the system. Heavy metals also will shrink the thymus
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so mercury, aluminum lead. So making sure that you support
the thymus keep the toxicity as low as possible in
the child really helps out with the immune system because
there's a very strong correlation between the size of the
thymus and its effectiveness.
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talking today about the five p's of tomorrow's medicine through
the lens of structure function medicine, and we're on the
second P preventative medicine. I think we're going to decided
this will be part one and then next week we'll
do part two, because we really want to cover this.
So we talked on predictive and now we're talking about preventative.
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So how do you approach prevention across multiple systems like
gut hormones, detac pathways, nervous system in your practice, in
your structure, function, medicine, practice, holistic integration wells.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
I tell people, the more I know, the better I
can treat. Yeah, so having as many diagnostic tests, it's
like at Mayo. You know what made Mayo was that
they did every test under the sun. And if you test,
you can know. If you don't test, you don't know, right,
And that's one thing. And guidance physiology. He stated that
testing is the key to real good health. And so
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the more I can get people to do as many
tests as possible, the more likely I am to figure
out what to work on. And oftentimes you can't work
on everything, so you start with the basics. And as
I told people, I had like this one gentleman who
sits there and said, you wanted to do a parasite cleanse.
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It was just two days ago, and I sit there
and I said, well, you know, have you tried a
parasite cleanse before? Because he was just starting out and
he said, yeah, I tried it twice, and I said,
how'd that go? So I got sicker than a dog.
I did pass some parasites, so I know I've got something.
I said, Well, everybody's got parasites. But I said, your
liver is shot. You can't handle it.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Your you're looking at his blood work.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, your immune system is weak. So before we do
that type of a cleanse, we need to get your
liver functioning. We need to get your immune system up,
we need to get your body stronger. Oftentimes, one of
the big mistakes I find in functional medicine doctors is
they do a whole lot of very good tests, but
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that should be more down the line. You know, where
you're finding out exactly which viruses, you're finding out what
things that can be tweaked to make things better. But
if you don't have a good functioning immune system, if
you don't have your detoxification system working right, if you
don't have your lymphatic system, your nervous system working correctly,
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it's not going to go well. You know, you start
with building blocks from the bottom up. A lot of
people with neurological issues, they get into the neurotransmitters and
different types of tests. And if you can just get
the tissue minerals balanced out, you know, I've come in.
I've got you know, these neurological issues, mental, you know,
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all this types of stuff. And my neurotransmitters are a mess.
We've tried working with them. It's not working. I said,
let's do a check on your heavy metals. Let's do
it heron now, simple and the arsenic is out the roof.
Their neurotransmitters are never going to be right until they
get rid of the arsenic.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, and so these like stepping stones, like you said, yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Right, you start with the basics.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, because yeah, we get these lab sales reps coming by,
you know, and you're very thorough. You want to make
sure these are tests that we need, you know, and
I know what, for the last forty years, the basics
have been the thorough blood work, break their profile, the
hair analysis, and then stool right, and then you go
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from there.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Right, and then neurological example yeah right.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
And then also check the circulation. So that's going and
we do that with the ans autonomic nervous system TOASTS.
So really you've got the basics. And I always like
to start with the basics, there are definite times where
then you need to go into the specialized test, like
even for myself, because I've got the basics down and
i want to take my health to a different level.
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So I'm seeing what genetically are the infections in my
system that are kind of holding me back, what are
the foods that are actually causing issues, because I want
to take my health up to another level. But the
basics is really where I get people into a healthy
type of thing. I'm like, oftentimes everybody likes the cool,
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fancy fancy dancy different type of things so that they
can sit there and say, well, you know, my problem
is methylation, and your problem is that your liver isn't
working right. And then if you get your liver working right,
then you could actually that's one of the biggest things.
One of the best ways to actually fight against methylations
is to take liver. It's like royalty under a standard process,
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which is the first supplement company. So sarah And said,
I can feed the world with liver beats and beat
tops and a yellow vegetable. And he said, most of
the time I give those three things and people get better.
And that's the basis of a lot of the standard
process products. There's a lot of other different types to things.
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It's an amazing type of product. But you know, he said,
start with the basics. Yeah, go with the basics, rebuild
the body. Oftentimes the fancy stuff will take care of itself.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
So what prevented a practices do you find most effective
in your practice?
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Good nutrition.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Of course, most people do not get the normal vitamins
and mentals as well from the soil as they used
to because the soil is compromised, our food is compromise system.
So supplementation is a very important part. I certainly practice
that I take a lot of supplements. Then also a
very basic type of thing is keeping regular visits for chiropractic,
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the nervous system nerisism, regular treatments with acupuncture, exercise. You
need to aerobic exercise five days a week. You need
to do resistance exercise three days a week, which we're
trying to follow. You need to eat a good diet,
you need to get a certain amount of sleep. You
need to reduce the stress if you just stop listening
to the news. And I've had patience where you know,
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they had problems, and I sat there and he said,
you know, how much news do you listen to? And
basically the guy was retired and he was that's what
he had on was all the time.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
The news and he was retired and he was more stressed.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Wall and I said, well, you know what difference does
it make if you know this stuff? You already know
how to vote, and are you going to do anything
about it?
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah? Can you do anything about it?
Speaker 3 (52:24):
Can you do anything about it?
Speaker 2 (52:25):
And he says, well, not really, and he said how
does it get you worked up? And his wife was like,
oh my, you know, she was rolling her eyes because
he's like throwing stuff at the TV. And he actually
stopped and we finally then started to make progress.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, you know it was You've got to have the
emotional types of things. One of the things is having
a happy marriage. Men who are married live longer. Women
It really doesn't make any difference, but men we need,
we need those women that are.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
Life and it gives women to.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
The listeners out there, we're married, so you know, making
without you babe.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
You know, happy life is very important, you know, just
doing the normal types, getting out in nature, yeah, all
those types of things are.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
You've been fishing with our grandsons. Oh, yes, Ben, good
for them. Yeah, the little one has a little trouble focusing,
but when he fishes, he is focused, laser focused, showing
you you how to fish.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yes, he's teaching me, he said, Grandpa, do you want
me cast that for you?
Speaker 1 (53:41):
All right, well, thank you. This is just part one.
We've covered predictive and preventative, and so next week we'll
cover the three last piece, personalized, participatory and precision medicine.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
You said that very well.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
I don't know if I would have gotten to that. Yeah,
with Peter, Piper picked a pea peppers.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
All right, all right, Thank you Doud for praying there.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
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