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September 27, 2025 54 mins
Dr. Prather says it is a myth that cholesterol is the CAUSE of Cardiovascular Disease. High cholesterol is instead a SYMPTOM of Cardiovascular Disease.  In this episode, you'll discover:

—How the pharmaceutical companies had the labs change the reference ranges for cholesterol levels when cholesterol medications were developed. And why reference ranges on lab tests are NOT the ideal number Dr. Prather looks for.
—That cholesterol is an essential building material the body uses to help heal damage in the body and is key to hormone production.
—Why the Coronary Risk Factor ratio in your cholesterol number should be more of a focus than the overall cholesterol number.
—How LOW cholesterol can cause fatigue, difficulty thinking, increased risk of cancer, loss of memory, mental confusion, and greater susceptibility to viruses.
—The harmful side effects of statin drugs. And why Type II Diabetics and those with high liver enzymes should NOT take statin drugs.
—How the #1 reason for high cholesterol is a sick liver. And the various underlying causes of high cholesterol: Low thyroid, Type II Diabetes, Cardiovascular Disease, mineral imbalances, low Vitamin D, kidney disease, pancreatic disease, and chronic pain.
—That Cholesterol is more of a warning instead of the disease process itself. And why Dr. Prather says the key is finding the underlying cause and reason of high cholesterol.
—Why Cancer patients need to keep their cholesterol levels HIGH. And why cholesterol drugs can actually increase your chance of Cancer.
—How to regulate your cholesterol through diet by eating what Dr. Prather calls "real" food and by shopping only on the outside aisles of the grocery store.
—Why you should have a goal to get off of statin drugs as soon as possible. Plus, the increased nutritional needs of your body when you are on statin drugs.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Praither, and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Well, we're talking today about the cholesterol myth,
and I like to talk about this subject with you
because you've been in practice almost thirty years, You've been

(00:36):
talking about cholesterol, and now these things are being talked about.
You know that you've always talked about thirty years ago. Sure,
it's kind of like they're catching up. So we're titling
it this show, the cholesterol myth. And doctor Praither, what
do you mean by that?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, myth is a commonly held belief and information that's
actually not true. So you know, there's a long history
as we're talking about cholesterol. Back when I started, you know,
actually training as a chiropractor, one of the things that
we did is we looked at blood work quite a bit,

(01:13):
and I took a diplomat American Board of Chiropractic INTERNUS
where we would talk about the whole aspect of that
and one of the things that we were involved with
was we would talk about how important cholesterol is for
a cardiovascular disease, and at that time, the normal, according
to the reference ranges was three hundred three hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Cholesterol was actually.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Normal, it was about thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
About thirty years ago, I mean, that was the reference range.
It's still if they were figuring out the reference range,
that's what it would be. So when I would sit
there and talk to a patient about cholesterol of two
eighty three hundred something like that, the MD would call
me a quack because I was concerned about the high cholesterol.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
That wasn't any big deal.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
So all of a sudden they came up with cholesterol
lowering medication, and the labs. Once they did that, actually
the pharmaceutical companies had them change the reference range, not
that it was actually a reference range anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
It was an ideal type of a number.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I mean, they had that kind of power so that
doctors and people would see that that was out of range.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
We knew that at the time.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So we went from an extreme where you know, the
thought process was, oh, no big deal in three hundred
till now you know, I mean they're trying to lower
it when people get down to one hundred and fifty.
In other words, it's based off of what the pharmaceutical
industry actually once along those lines instead of reality physiology.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Who determines reference ranges?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Then, well, it's supposed to be who falls into a
fifty percent? In other words, it's not an ideal number,
it's reference ranges. Are who falls in within a fifty percent?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
In other words, what is the majority of people actually ranged?
As a matter of fact, I get people back where
the ideal number is and even within the reference range.
So reference range has nothing to do with what we
call homeostasis.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
You're not even really looking at reference.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm not even really looking at reference ranges because I
know what is the ideal numbers that we're actually going for.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Doesn't everybody want to be better than fifty percent?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, when fifty percent of the people are sick, it's
a you know, that's a that's not a good. In
other words, the labs weren't determining what is proper and normal.
What they were doing was where it is the majority
people fall, and that's where they used to have it. Then,
because of the whole push, and I quite understand that

(03:49):
the federal government got involved because so many people were
dying of cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
You know. I mean, it was a very big thing.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Eisenhower had a heart attack and people were like, oh
my gosh, this is a national emergency. People are dying
left and right, so we need to figure out how
to fix cardiovascular disease. It was the number one killer.
They started to do studies and found a very strong
relationship between cholesterol and cardiovascular disease, which was a good

(04:18):
type of thing, and we were actually very excited, you know,
within our group that that was becoming a major thing
because we'd been saying it all along. That was an
important marker. So we were actually ahead of the curve.
In other words, our group, the structure function group, was
talking about cholesterol and the relationship to cardiovascular disease long
before the disease care was even acknowledging any type of relationship.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Interesting, so we were ahead of the curve.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
In other words, we were talking about that as an
important type of a factor, which we already knew. The
problem is then they said, ah, cholesterol is the cause
of cardiovascular disease, which is p zeologically totally false. I
repeat that cholesterol is not the cause of cardiovascular disease.

(05:10):
It is a symptom. So the way that I like
to describe it is there were some very brilliant people
who did There was a lot of fires in a community,
and they found they were looking at correlations with the
fires and the events surrounding it, and they found out
that there was a lot of firemen wherever there were fires.

(05:34):
So they figured if you reduced the firemen, then you
reduce the number of fires.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
What they were doing with cholesterol is.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
The logical conclusion. That's actually that's not true. You know,
you have to understand what cholesterol is. Cholesterol is made
to heal any type of a wound because cholesterol makes
up to the cell walls. It's sort of the building
material that the body uses. So if there's damage that's occurring,

(06:03):
the body actually produces more cholesterol to help with the damage.
So once you start to have cardiovascular disease, the body
starts to reduce more cholesterol to help to deal with
a cardiovascular disease that's taking place.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
So body almost needs it, Well, you know, there can
be an oversupply on that. You know, one of the
things is actually regulating the homeostasis of the body, and
there are times where the body gets off on homeostasis
and is not working properly. So understanding and there are
actually times where cholesterolaring medications could be helpful. But there

(06:41):
is a false myth that is surrounding the cholesterol whole
situation on that that really needs to be brought out
and understood for the best care for the patient. As
we can understand that, then we can actually have a
better understanding of how to deal and how to actually
truly get cardiovascular disease under control.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
So doctor prayer there, what should our cholesterol numbers be?
What should they look like?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, one of the most important things is that one
of the big things that is concentrated on is you know,
the total cholesterol. If you have come in with a
three hundred cholesterol, doctors are going to want to put
you on cholesterol lowing drugs. A matter of fact, I
had a gentleman who came in and he was ninety
years old and probably one of the most active guys

(07:33):
I had ever seen. I mean I tested him and
really I couldn't find anything wrong with him. He had
no misalignments, he had a twelve percent body fat, His
body looked like a twenty one year old wow, and
he was healthy.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
He had actually.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Gotten his girlfriend pregnant and they were going to get married, and.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
She was thirty two and he's ninety.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
He's ninety.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Good for him.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
And he was actually a very.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Good provider, made a six figure income, had a cleaning company.
And she took him to the doctor because she wanted
to make sure that he was going to be healthy.
And they ran all the numberes and said, well, you're
really really healthy, but you got a three hundred cholesterol.
We need to put you on a cholesterol lowering drug,
you know, to keep you healthy. And so he went
on it, and he didn't feel as good. He had
soreness through his body, he developed headaches, he developed digestive problems,

(08:29):
his memory started to go. And one of the things is,
he said, what really bothered him was he was used
to what he called his nature working, and he would
have his nature twice a day, and he his nature
was no longer working. Was the way that he put it,
follow you think you're following me. So his sexual performance

(08:53):
was not there anymore. So he was concerned and came
in and so I said, well, three hundred cholesterol is
pretty you know, serious, Let's take a look at it.
And he had a three hundred cholesterol, but he had
one hundred and ten hdl. Okay, now that's actually really important.
There's a very common thread on people who you know,

(09:15):
we have these really old people that hit one hundred
and twenty and things like that, and an interesting thing
about them is that they all have cholesterols of three
hundred with about one hundred hdl.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So what you're talking yeah here is about that ratio.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Ratio is very important.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Matter of fact, what we call it are in the
structure function group that I belong to, is that's the
coronary risk factor. So what you do is you take
your total cholesterol divided by your HDL and then you
get what we call your coronary risk factor. And if
you are three or below, you are protected. As you

(09:53):
get higher, the more likely things can become a problem.
And once you get over a ratio of six, it's
actually important. And if you get up to a nine,
you're going to have a heart attack any second.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
So three or below.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Three or below is actually a protected number. And the
interesting thing about cholesterol is it actually has quite a
few different benefits.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, when we come back, let's talk about the benefits
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Speaker 3 (11:05):
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Speaker 2 (11:07):
A lot of Olympic athletes are using that to maintain
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Speaker 3 (11:16):
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Speaker 2 (12:49):
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Speaker 1 (12:50):
Important treatment you use in wound care?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Vitamin C.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
If you look at the scientific literature, the big thing
that they really find is that vitamin C is really
critical for wound healing. Vitamin C actually is the thing
that kind of keeps us all together. Scientific literature has
shown that that makes all the difference in the world
is you could just do that and get amazing results.

(13:16):
I mean, we really look good because of that because
the wound centers don't do it. We put it on
the wound, but then we also have a people take
it orally, but we also do IVS. If I only
had one thing to do for a wound, it's vitamin C.
And I don't think there is a single wound center
in Indiana that actually utilizes vitamin C in their treatments.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
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Speaker 2 (13:41):
One of the things that really does is you have
a dino triphosphase ATP in the cells in the mitochondria.
Those little guys are what makes the power packs of
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of the cells starting to work at a higher level,
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the cells start working better. If they start working better,

(14:03):
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a green laser, depending on the situation of the body,
we know which one to actually utilize. Not only do
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them so that you can use it on a daily

(14:24):
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Speaker 1 (15:05):
We're talking about the cholesterol myth and dotr pray there.
Let's talk about the benefits of cholesterol. You know, has
cholesterol gotten a bad name.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
It's like absolutely, cholesterol is absolutely critical for our health
and wellbeing. All of our cell walls are made out
of cholesterol. Our brain is made out of cholesterol. Cholesterol
is important for making all the hormones in our body.
Vitamin D is dependent upon our Vitamin D levels are dependent.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Upon cholesterol, So cholesterol.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
One of the things is if you go below one
hundred and forty on your total cholesterol, your body does
not work as well. You start to get fatigued, you
start to have memory problems, you start to be more
susceptible to infections, especially viruses. Few chances of cancer go
up if you go below one hundred and twenty. Anybody
below one hundred and twenty is going to be as

(15:54):
an adult fatigue tired. That's one of the things that
causes chronic fatigue. I've had any of different people who
came in who had a cholesterol below one hundred and
twenty and extreme fatigue, couldn't function, couldn't think, And as
soon as we got their cholesterol up above the one
hundred and twenty mark, they all of a sudden started
kick in. Once we got them over one hundred and forty,

(16:15):
they felt fine, and much to the chagrin of some
of the doctors who were also treating them, it really
does work. You know, you can really see a big
difference on that. So going below that one hundred and
forty mark is just a really really bad idea. Clesterol,
as I said, is actually protective of cancer because if

(16:39):
you have a good integrity of the cell walls, then
that seems to really make a big difference.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
In matter of fact, one of the things that they.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Found if you actually read the studies on cholesterol lowering,
there were some benefits on the number of cardiovascular but
the cancer rates actually increased quite dramatically as they were
doing the studies on that, So you know, getting in
there and actually look at the different aspects of that.
So cholesterol is the basic building blocks of our body,
and whenever there's damage, cholesterol increases to try to handle

(17:08):
that damage.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
That's one of the things that cholesterol does.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, and we need it.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
You brought it up.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Our brain's made out of it. It's interesting what's happening
to the brain. Yes, and the increase in dementia.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, one of the side effects that you have with
lowered cholesterol. Part of the side effects of cholesterol lowering
medicine is mental confusion, you know, loss of memory. And
I've had many a patients who came in who said,
you know, Grandpa is just not thinking clearly anymore. And
we checked what their cholesterol was and they were at

(17:42):
one hundred and ten. So I explained it all to them.
They said, well, my doctor really wants to keep it there.
But as soon as we got their cholesterol up, you know,
started to raise it out, got it up to one
hundred and forty, which was an okay number with their mds,
then you know, all of a sudden they were thinking again.
So being aware of that, you know, is a very

(18:04):
important type of thing. And we've got seventeen million people
on cholesterol lawing drugs right now, seventeen million, seventeen million
on people on cholesterol laying drugs, so there's an awful
lot of issues that are going on with that.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well, let's talk about stantons. Are stantons necessary at times?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's one of the things that is actually true. Statins
are actually necessary at times. One of the things that
they did that we used to use was red yeast
Rice red yeast Rice is a natural statin. Matter of fact,
the way that they started to research on statins how

(18:45):
to make them, they got that completely from red YaST rice.
So they actually figured out how to make statins from
a natural health food product. And I remember that there
was an awful lot of doctors who were mds who
were making fun of putting people on red YaST rice
for their cholesterol. You know, it's again so many different

(19:05):
types of things. Almost all pharmaceuticals are taken from natural sources,
and it seems funny, but so we were actually putting
people on red yeast rice as a statin product. And
there are times like if I get somebody in with
a nine cornat risk factor that needs to get down

(19:25):
and needs to get down pretty quick because they're going
to they could actually have because the amount of cholesterol
going through the system that is a huge contributor and
that needs to get down pretty quickly. Okay, So you know,
there are times that we actually do believe in statons,
but a long term you know, you want to find
an alternative along those lines and be able to eventually

(19:50):
get off the statins as quickly as possible.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
And if you really legitimately need them.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
You if you really legitimately need it.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like for example, you can talk about my dad because
you've been taking care of.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Him, right, you know, he had a higher cholesterol, but
he had an extremely high HDL, you know, and his
ratio was less than three. So you know, they were
wanting to put him on a statin. And he's on
no pharmaceuticals, no high pertension, nothing wrong with him, and
putting him on a statin in that type of situation

(20:24):
could definitely cost some issues for it. You know, anytime
you're doing a pharmaceutical you need to look at benefit
versus risk, and anyone with a three point zero or
less cordinary risk factor, it would be absolutely silly to
put them on a statin.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
And after he's down in Florida, so he sent you
as blood work and it was another issue.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Right homo.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
As system was high, which is the inflammatory and basically
the biggest risk for cardiovascular disease is inflammation through the arteries.
So one of the Biggs response is that the body
has is to make cholesterol for inflammation. That's actually really
more of the underlying issue and finding out what is

(21:09):
causing that inflammatory condition. As you can reduce that, then
you can actually the body actually drops the cholesterol on it.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
So and we were able to he did a neutra
val that.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yes, we were able to find that he was very
low in vitamin C, alphalipoic acid, and glutathion, which are
all just like critical for the inflammatory process. Putt him
on that and that just dropped it right down.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah. It was interesting because he's always, since I was
a kid, big on vitamin C. But he needed more even.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Right, Actually he had cut back on it.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Oh, he had of actually as doctor recommended that he
had cut back on it, which was for him the
absolutely wrong thing to do. So, you know, really looking
at the physiology, understanding how that works, and really looking
at true science instead of salesmanship.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
It's you know.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Where people are involved with profit and trying to figure
that out.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Right. Marketing, Yes, yes, you're.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Having all the advertisements and everything like that isn't the
best way to.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Determine the marketing is clever and you know, really is right?
All right, Well, how many people did you say? Are
on Stantons the seventeen million?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And the interesting thing is that they want to put
according to the pharmaceutical industry, they'd like to put another
twenty million on statins also, and you know, don't get
me wrong, there are people out there who need statans,
but not at that rate.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
We're just so extreme and we talk about this all
the time, you know, instead of holistic looking at sure,
but in your opinion, how many people should be in stantons.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Well, probably the ratio that we would probably think of
if we were really looking at that correctly. Now understand
is that there are people who are willing to do
the necessary things to get themselves healthy, and there are
people who are not willing to do the necessary things

(23:14):
to get healthy. Probably for those people who absolutely have
to be on statins are probably more of a very
small number, probably a million people would have to be
on statins instead of and you know, because of their
inherited genetic type of makeups, you know, very beneficial for them.

(23:38):
For people who aren't willing to do the proper things,
you know, make the changes, lifestyle changes, take the supplements,
take the time to actually do it. Really almost everybody
could get down on their cholesterol on their own.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh yeah, taking responsibility.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Taking some responsibility, things like that.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
But just on the people who are out there who
should be probably on statins, I would probably cut that
number on that probably down to about five million. You know,
legitimately have the numbers that would actually benefit them.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
So what are the side effects of statins?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Side effects of statins You get headaches.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Matter of fact, I've had people who were complaining of
headaches coming in of course to see a conropractor, and
really it was their statin that was causing the issue
because it actually damages the nervous system. Difficulty sleeping again,
that's some of the brain damage that occurs once they
started on statins. They couldn't sleep anymore because of the

(24:45):
changes in the brain. Flushing of the skin is one
of the things that is a very common type of thing,
muscle achs, tenderness, weakness, my algia. The muscles are made
up of cholesterol, and if you start to get the
cholesterol too low, the muscles start to break down and
so you can go from you know, just muscle tendance weakness,

(25:08):
myal joke, which is a very common type of thing.
And of course they come in to see me at
that point wanting to get it fixed, and it's really
caused by the cholesterol medicine that they're taking, and then
it can actually go into an inflammation of the muscles mylesitis,
and then you can actually start to get elevated creating
and kindase where you actually have large amounts and then

(25:31):
it can go into something called rabdomyolysis, and that's supposed
to be something that's actually rare according to the studies.
But you also have to understand the people who did
the studies on that were also the studies that showed
that a very small people number of people would actually
become addicted doopiates, which we found out that we know

(25:53):
how that turned out. So I am actually finding quite
a few different people who've come in who have rabdomiolosis.
What is that That is a breakdown of the muscles
and actually can result in death and matter of fact,
a couple of them actually died. A matter of fact,
two of them who had come into see me were

(26:13):
actually medical physicians who had rabdomiolysis and wind up dying
from taking the cholesterol loring medicine. One of the things
that we actually had an argument with their doctors was
that you know that they needed to go off of
it and really didn't take them off in time.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
So real quick, when should you not take statons?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You should not take statins, if you have elevated liver enzymes,
or if you have type two diabetes.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Okay, when we come back, we're going to talk about
the structure function approach to treatment with high cholesterol. Listen
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We were sitting at the brown diving and the way
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for lunch, he said, I'll have cream of wheat, he says,
And I hate cream and wheat. And then why do
you order cream of wheat?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
He says.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
Mary says it's good for me. I should tell marya
cream of week. I said, I'm gonna have bacon legs.
He says, I love baking the leggs. I one should
have baking the knicks. He's Mary says it's bad for me.
I said, tell Mary, not deat bacon on it.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And the way that came over.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
So I'm baking the leggs and Jack says, I'll have
baking the niggs.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I saw.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
When the check comes, give it to Jack Benny, he said,
why should I pay for the check? I says, if
you don't pay for the check, I'll tell Mary you
have bacon.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
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Prather of Holistic Integration, the.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Number one thing on balancing out the endercan system is
the atlas that first vertebrae and that first vertebrate, because
what it does is it controls the autonomic nervous system.
The autonomic nervous system tells the endercon system and therefore
the hormones what to do. Matter of fact, we just
had to put your outlais in yesterday.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, it had been two years.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's amazing how much of a difference that made as
we put that in right. So we always need to
make sure that especially the atlas is in place in
regulating the hormone and endercon system, and so getting the
nervous system right will have a very big effect on
the endercan system and the hormones, and you cannot get
the enderconsystem and the hormones balanced unless the nervous system

(28:48):
is working right.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Interesting, it just won't work.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
What is Pot's disease and what does it stand for?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, postural orthostatic tachycardiac syndrome is basically a vegas nerve
issue where it's in more of a sympathetic mode than
parasympathetic and it's not working right, and then all of
a sudden you get a constriction of the arteries and
you go over and faint. The problem with that oftentimes
is the atlas. The atlas is the biggest thing that

(29:14):
we can do to actually improve that. Matter of fact,
as we're looking at the test for the POTS, hey
this is positive. We test it later after the ATLAS
adjustment and you no longer have that syndrome. Now, there
can be other things that need to go along with it,
but really, if that atlas is out, you're never going
to fix POTS without the outlass being set into its

(29:38):
proper position.

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(31:10):
I'm Lisa Prather and you're listening to the Voice of
Health with doctor Robert Prether of Holistic Integration where we
get to the root cause of your health issue. So
we're talking today about the cholesterol myth and doctor Prether,
how does structure function care treat a patient with high cholesterol.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's important to understand exactly what structure function is. Structure
function takes things that are out of balance and brings
them back into balance, which is homeostasis, which is true health.
Homeostasis is a definition of health. So we don't actually
treat high cholesterol. We'd you know, actually rarely give you know,

(31:54):
like red yeast rice or anything along those lines.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
To actually drop it.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But what we do is we try to find the
underlying problem. So when you find out what is the
underlying issue, and we're very dependent upon lab tests for that.
So we actually do more lab tests than disease care,
does you know, than the regular doctors that you would
go to. So we're very dependent upon lab tests and

(32:21):
we look through and try to find out what is
the reason or reasons that the cholesterol has gone high,
and as we fix that, the body will bring the
cholesterol back into normal, which is actually a true healing
type of a result instead of just falsely bringing down
the cholesterol without treating the underlying problem.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Right, what do you find is the underlying reasons for
high cholesterol?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh, the number one reason for high cholesterol is a
sick liver. You know, whether the liver has gone too
inflamed or congested. That is the number one reason for
the liver to I mean the cholesterol to go high.
But there is actually a lot of other reasons. Cholesterol

(33:07):
is also very important for the endercan system. So if
any of your endercan system hormones goes low, the body
starts to produce more cholesterol to help to handle that.
One of the common things that we find is a
low thyroid. Low thyroid is will really elevate cholesterol. Type
two diabetes raises cholesterol. Cardiovascular disease damage to the arteries

(33:33):
raises up the cholesterol. High inflammatory type of situations, there
can be mineral imbalances when you actually have high copper
that can actually raise up the cholesterol. You also have
low Vitamin D is a very common reason. Vitamin D
is made out of cholesterol. If you're low in your
vitamin D, the body actually raises the cholesterol level in

(33:55):
the case because it knows that it needs more vitamin D.
So just getting your vitamin D levels back under control
will drop the cholesterol level.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
And we check that a lot here with our pre
through profile. Usually add on the vitamin D and the iodine.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Kidney disease can actually raise up the cholesterol. Pancreatic disease,
you know, there are so many different Even chronic pain
can raise up the cholesterol because the nervous system is
under stressed.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
So the high cholesterol is telling you there's something.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
There's something wrong. It's a great marker. I mean, it's
a very important marker. One of the things that has
been a benefit is that people do know their cholesterol numbers.
That was a campaign that was put on by the
federal government. So, you know, the idea behind people knowing
their cholesterol numbers are very important. The myth of high

(34:48):
cholesterol is that the cholesterol.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Is the problem.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Cholesterol is in one percent of the population. Actually, the
real problem their situations on the high cholesterol is that
there's some other process going on. You might have to
take a cholesterol lowing drug, you know, in case it's
ridiculously high. But it's always you need to find the

(35:13):
underlying reason, fix the reason, because that's actually the most
important thing. So cholesterol is more of a warning instead
of a disease process in itself.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Interesting. So, does too low of cholesterol need to be treated?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Ah, very good question.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
You know, as we had said before, if you go
below one hundred and forty, you're going to start to
have some dysfunction in the body. The brain's not going
to be starting to work correctly, the hormones won't be adequate,
Vitamin D levels will drop. There's an awful lot that
actually can start occurring. Go below one hundred and twenty,
it actually becomes dangerous. And we consider if it goes

(35:52):
under ninety, people are going to die. The chances of
dying actually increase by sixfold. It's actually a very critical situation,
and we find that we can get excellent results if
we actually raise up the cholesterol levels.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Interesting, So, how does cholesterol and cancer interplay.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
And that's one of the big things that they found
in a lot of the cholesterol lowering research. You know,
whenever they did where they were pretty aggressive on lowering
the cholesterol, the people actually had a huge increase in
the number of cancer cases. Cholesterol is an important part

(36:32):
of cell integrity. If the cholesterol level drops to low,
the actual cell integrity actually decreases and your chances of
getting cancer increase quite dramatically. Matter of fact, one of
the things for a patient who actually has cancer is
keeping the cholesterol levels high. Is one of the important

(36:54):
things that we see. As people are dying of cancer,
their cholesterol level starts to drop and you can actually
measure from the cholesterol how well they're doing. So one
of the important things is if you have cancer or
had cancer, is not to get on a cholesterol lowing
medication because that can actually kick off a cancer situation.

(37:20):
So cholesterol and cancer not just that cholesterol is associated
with cardiovascular disease. High cholesterol and cardiovascular disease go along
very well, but also the cancer. And an example that
I have on that is I had a pretty young lady.
She was about thirty five years old, and she was

(37:43):
extremely fatigued and had three bouts of melanoma and that
she had had a scare four cancer on the breast
and several other things, and she just felt terrible. And
she came in and I said, well, you know, let's
take a look at your blood working said, well, my
doctor says, my blood work is absolutely wonderful. You wish

(38:03):
is he had that? And I said, okay, let's take
a look at it. And I looked at it and
I said, you know, your cholesterol is one hundred and
ten and she said, yeah, my doctors thinks that's fantastic.
But the scary part was that she had a ten HDL,
so she had a over ten times risk cardio coronary

(38:25):
risk factor, so she was developing cardiovascular disease. I mean,
you know, with that high levels, that was a sign
of cardiovascular disease. So she was at risk for cardiovascular
disease and she was also at risk cancer.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I mean, this poor troll wasn't going to live very long.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
So we started her on some products, you know, to
get her cholesterol level up, which really stimulated her HDL
and we got her up to one hundred and forty
and got her HDL up to fifty. And she felt
it's great, and guess why she never had another scare

(39:04):
with cancer. All the melanoma never came back, and that
was one thing that was continually having. I mean, she
had had several scars from where they had had to
remove it, and her energy was back up, So that
was interesting.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Do we just isolate so much that we're not looking
at the whole person and how that.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Is a real problem because the regular disease care is very.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Mechanistic.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
In other words, they divide the body up into different
sections and not really look at how the whole body
works together. That's one of the good things that structure
function does is it's very holistic. Now, we need the
specialists because you know, if you're dealing with the heart, cancer, medications,
all those types of things, you know that is just
such an overwhelming area. But you need specialists in that area.

(39:54):
And it needs to be disease care, no doubt about it.
But as you're looking at a primary healthcare physician, our
take on that is really they should be structure functioning,
very holistic. So you have your holistic doctor looking at
you as a primary care physician, and then the specialists
are actually the disease care. And that's really the model

(40:15):
that we're trying to promote and trying to integrate into
a national type of a healthcare system.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I know it works.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
When we get back, let's talk about the role that
diet and exercise play in lowering cholesterol. Never miss an
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(41:07):
doctor Robert Prether of Holistic Integration.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
It has been very well proven that breast cancer is
definitely highly affected by iodine. Stomach cancer has also been proven.
Esophageal cancer, cervical cancer, ovarian cancer, and uterine cancer are
all involved with iodine, so oftentimes with breast cancer. Because
we treat a lot of breast cancer, we not only
do it internally, but we also do it topically and

(41:34):
oftentimes the ecologists, you know, as they're doing the imaging
on that, even before they've done the surgery, said that
thing's gone down fifty percent. How did you do that?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
And that's just as a credit to the iodine. And
we had a woman who actually got over the breast cancer,
but her one breast that was the cancrous one was
all shriveled up. It was basically not there. And we
continue to do the iodine treatments topically. Now her breast
looks just like the other one.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
So how does iodine affect genetic expression of cancer?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
That's a very interesting type of thing. You've got the
bracket scores, bracker one, all those types of things. In
other words, they can well, what they do is they
do a genetic test to see how likely you are
to develop breast cancer. Well, what they've proven is that
just because you have the genes doesn't mean you're going
to have an expression of it. And they have very

(42:26):
good evidence that iodine prevents the expression of the gene
for breast cancer. Interesting, yeah, so if you have that
making sure that your iodine levels are up to par,
that would actually keep that gene expression from curring. But
they find that the iodine is the thing that suppresses that,

(42:48):
which is amazing.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
So how does iodine prevent cancer cells from replicating?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Well, iodine is critical for something called apoptosis. Basically, when
the cell gets old, it destroys itself. If you don't
have iodine, it doesn't do that. The problem with cancer
cells is they don't destroy themselves. They just keep on
replicating and it gets out of hand and grows and
takes over the body and actually becomes like a different

(43:14):
energy in you that eats you up.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Iodine is the.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Key to apoptosis, in other words, for cellular death. So
not only is iodine a preventative and breast cancer, but
it's actually pretty well considered something that prevents all cancers.
So looking at prevention, you should be looking at iodine.
If you actually have cancer, starting up with iodine will
be important. Making sure you don't get too much.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Schedule your appointment at Holistic Integration three one seven eight
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(44:03):
you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor Robert
Prather of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring hope
to our patients. Well, we're talking today about the cholesterol myth,
and doctor Prairie, let's talk about the role diet and
exercise play in lowering cholesterol. You know, we need to

(44:23):
take responsibility for our health, not just sit back and
expect people to take responsibility. You know, And I'm talking
about myself. We just at our staff meeting. We were
sharing some of our frustrations and for me is not
finding the time, you know, to exercise, and so you
know what am I going to do about it?

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
No one can do it for me.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
That'd be great if we could hire somebody to exercise
for us.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, can we get the benefit and we could pick
who that be. If we'd have, you know, our body,
they can do all the work and we get their body.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I like that. So what role does diet and exercise
play in lowering cholesterol?

Speaker 2 (45:05):
As you get into looking at the whole thing, I mean,
the number one cause for high cholesterol is the liver.
If we put toxins in our body, that's going to
stress out the liver, that's going to raise up the cholesterol.
If we take in too much food or the wrong
kind of food, and it causes weight gain. That's going
to put a stress on our cholesterol levels because the
body's trying to fix anything that's out of balance. So

(45:28):
diet is very, very big, and what we want to
do is to eliminate all the basically chemicals out of
our diet. Again, I think it's very funny that we
have a certain section in the grocery store for organic food,
because really that's real food, non chemical food. What we
should do is have a sign instead of organic, real

(45:51):
food and then the rest of it is chemical.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
So people get awfully upset about.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
That, you know their name, Yes they would, But diet
is very critical. You can do so much through diet
on regulating your cholesterol, and one of the most important
things is just cutting out all the chemicals and eat
real food, eat a good healthy diet. We don't have
time to go into what that looks like, but you know,

(46:18):
I mean, it's just common sense. One of the things
we should be doing is just shopping on the outside
of the grocery stores and as much well you know,
on the outside of the piter and then also going
to farmers markets things like that where you actually know
the people who are going in. It's going local without
chemicals is really the best way to go. The other

(46:39):
thing is exercise. I always say exercise cures a world
of sins. So having regular exercise is a part of
our lifestyle. People didn't have to do that before because
they had to exercise to be able to live.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Now we need to.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Set that aside and make actual time for it because
we need that type of movement, We need that interplay,
and it really can help out quite a bit. And
just through exercise, people have been able to get their
cholesterol right, get their livers balanced out because it improves
the physiology of how the whole body works.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
If we exercise as we should good.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
So what is your success in lowering cholesterol?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
If people follow what we do, what we say, and
what we tell them to do, it's pretty well guaranteed.
I even had a heart surgeon actually come in and
just couldn't get his trigulstrids and cholesterol under control. And
he had been everywhere. We had found that his main
problem was food allergies. I told him how to switch

(47:40):
his diet and we brought that right into place. So
understanding all that and finding out what is the underlying
cost because it could be different for different people. So foodology,
so our success rate is actually pretty well guaranteed if
they do everything that we.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Tell them to.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
And what if they're on stafe, can structure function care
help you know?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
If you are on statins, you also need to be
checked out structure functionally. The reason is is just by
taking statins you create certain types of nutritional needs. You
drop on your co Q ten. There are increased needs
because the liver's under more stress. Things are actually going
to be a problem. So you know, if you are
on statins, one thing you need to do is figure

(48:23):
out how to get yourself off of them as quickly
as possible. The more pharmaceuticals you take, the longer you
take the pharmaceutical, the more likely you are to have
adverse reactions with that. So it's a situation where if
you are on any type of a pharmaceutical, you need
to be checked also by a structure function doctor and

(48:45):
have those evaluated for underlying needs because just taking a
statin in itself is going to create nutritional needs that
you need to follow up on and make sure that
those are taken care of. COQ ten being the most
well proven and coq ten is important for heart integrity.

(49:06):
It helps the heart for the energy and the heart
is the biggest.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
User of coq ten.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
So you know, you can actually be taking a statin
working and it actually caused a heart attack. Wow, because
of the nutritional requirements that actually occur. So you know,
watching that having that followed up on is an important aspect.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
So what diagnostics are necessary?

Speaker 2 (49:30):
You know for following up on cholesterol. Blood work is
absolutely critical. We're looking and looking at the hormones. We
need to get a good diagnostics on the hormones and
see if any of those have dropped, you know, the
interconsistent thyroid, adrenals, pituitary pineal, the testes, any of those pancreas.
If any of those go low, the body's going to

(49:52):
raise up the cholesterol. So that very important to look
at that. You need to look at the liver enzymes,
the kidney function, those are all very important. You also
need to on the body tissue minerals. The best way
to do that is either hair or nails. It's a
rather inexpensive test because if the minerals go out of
balance then that could actually cause cholesterol. Terrase checking on
some of your vitamin and nutrients. Vitamin D is a

(50:14):
very well known one to go low and actually kick
off high cholesterol. Vitem B six is also another one.
So those are kind of very common types of things.
The other thing is.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
That there could actually be issues with a gut.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
If your gut isn't working right, there can be an
increase in cholesterol because you're not absorbing the It's very
funny the way to take down cholesterol oftentime is to
get cholesterol.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
To eat a whole lot of cholesterol.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Why because then the liver doesn't feel like it needs
to produce a whole lot and it can overdo it.
If you're taking it in through your diet, then the
liver no longer feels like.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
It needs it.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Well, there was something called Lorenzo's Oil. Have you ever
heard of that? Named after Lorenzo and he had he
had a genetic disease where he overproduced his living.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
So there was a movie.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
There was actually a movie about that, and one of
the things that they told them to do is just
cut out all foods with cholesterol. They figured that if
the buddy was you know, if you were overproducing, you
didn't need to adding to it.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
The more they cut it down. They were smart people
to higher the cholesterol line.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
So you know, they basically ignored the doctors and said,
you know, if that made it worse, why don't we
add a whole bunch of oil in there and see
if it improves. So they started to add oils into
his diet, and the cholesterol actually reduced.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
What kind of oils?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
It was actually a combination oil, Yeah, it was. Actually
we sell that particular oil here, fatty acid liquiescence, ah,
and it's a very excellent combination on that and it's
actually about twelve different oils that are combined. Particular combination
is great for reducing your cholesterol levels. It actually seems

(52:04):
to satisfy the body's need so even better than its
own cholesterol, and so the body kind of relaxes because
a lot of healing is taking place, and then the
cholesterol levels drop. It's one of my best products for
actually reducing cholesterol. So you actually take a whole bunch
of cholesterol into your diet in a certain combination right
certain types, and it will reduce your cholesterol.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
It's almost guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
It's really interesting, and we carry that here, yes, we do.
Does it taste good.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
It's not bad. I actually drink it directly, but you
know that's not saying much. I pretty well take about anything. Yeah,
people don't seem to bind.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
It rather well, you have one more minute, doctor Pether.
What would you say to someone that might be strolling
or having questions about cholesterol.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Find a good structure function doctor, you know, get that
portion of your care and actually have a diagnosed checked out.
Don't decide to do things on your own.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yeah, too complicated.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
It's very complicated.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
So have that done and then get into some good
dig six and you'll.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Know what to do.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Okay, well, thank you, doctor Prayther. The cholesterol myth very interesting,
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
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