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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Praither and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Breather of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. We we're going to talk about breast cancer.
It's Breast Cancer Awareness Month and Detter preys how common
is breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, breast cancer is the most common cancer in women.
There's two hundred and forty five thousand new diagnosis is
a year of breast cancer, wow, which is huge, and
twenty two hundred in men.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh, is that increasing? In men?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The percentage of breast cancer has actually gone down, but
it's increasing because of population is increasing. But it's actually
much more deadly in men than in women on percentage wise,
So it is something that not only women should be
concerned about, but men should also interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, what is the death rate of breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
There are forty one thousand women who die from breast
cancer year and four hundred and sixty men. So for
men it's a much higher percentage of the ones who
do get breast cancer, it's deadily.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
So what are the risk factors for breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, one of the things, of course, the older you get,
the more likely you are to get breast cancer. It's
rare below the age of forty, but it is something
that occurs, and when it does occur in women younger
than forty, then it's usually a genetic component. You can
get genetic tests to see if you are at a
high incidence for breast cancer. So that is one thing
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that people should be aware of. Also, your reproductive history.
If you have a child after thirty, your first child
as a higher chance. Along those lines, if you've never
had a child at all, you have an increased chance
of having breast cancer. One of the things that really
helps to reduce the risk of breast cancer is breastfeeding.
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So if you breastfeed your children, it really cuts down
on the chances of having breast cancer. Also, when you
start your first period, if you're younger, then that can
give a better chance of having breast cancer. Also, if
you have a longer time that you don't go into metapause,
and that increases your chances for breast cancer.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Or increases or decreases increases.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Okay, dense breasts, if you already have fibrocystic breasts, then
that's say chance of having breast cancer. One of the
things you want to do is keep lumps and mumps
and pains and everything like that out of the breast
as you're going along in your life. That cuts down
on the risk of breast cancer. So checking yourself if
you have soft, pliable breasts that there isn't really a
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whole lot of problem with, then your chances of having
breast cancer reduced quite dramatically. So watching that and making
sure that that stays like that is very important. Also,
nutrition has a big effect. Obesity if you exercise quite
a bit if you're an athlete, cuts down the chance
of having breast cancer. Any type of radiation on the
chest really increases the chance of breast cancer. Also exposures
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to pesticides, herbicides, other different types of toxins, heavy metal toxicity,
low vitamin D, low exposure to the sunshine. If you
get a lot more sun that increases your ability to
keep from getting breast cancer. A weakened immune system has
a lot to do with it. If you have other
different types of autoimmune diseases, that increases your chances. Some
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of the drugs you take also has a chance. If
you are taking some drugs to prevent miscarriage, from the
nineteen forties to nineteen seventy one increases quite dramatically your
chances for breast cancer. Drinking, alcohol, smoking, those different types
of things also increase your chances of getting breast cancer.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Interesting, you talked about, you know, a lowered immune system,
and we have a patient that's going to be sharing
her story today, but she talked about parasitical infection.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yes, any type of atoxin along those lines, low vitamin A,
low vitamin D, and low iodine increases your chances of
getting breast cancer.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Interesting. Can breast cancer be prevented?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yes, if you're looking at all cancers for prevention, sixty
percent of all cancers can be prevented.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Nutritionally sixty percent nutritionally yes.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Interesting, And really, when you're talking about breast cancer, the
genetic component on that is really about fifteen percent, which
is an unavoidable type of thing. So that's a real
important type of aspect. Most breast cancer can be avoided
through lifestyle type changes, so it is it's something that
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can really be worked on and made sure that you
don't get it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
How is breast cancer treated?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
One of the more effective ways is, of course surgery,
either a lumpectomy or a mastectomy is one of the
ways that is the most effective. Next most effective way
is hormones. If you can control your hormonal level, and
having a dominant estrogen instead of a balanced hormones can
really kick up cancer quite a bit. So your hormonal
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balance is very important. So one of the things not
only do they do a lumpectomy or a masstectomy, but
they can also do a hysteric as something to help
to control the hormones is something that's done quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And what hormone did you say? High estrogen?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
High estrogen, So if there's an imbalance then you have
toxic levels of estrogen, then that can be a big factor.
And of course once you put on extra weight, then
your estrogen level raises up. So how your hormones do
throughout your life is a very important aspect for breast cancer.
Chemo and radiation. Of course, there are other different types
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of treatments for breast cancer. So those are all things
that you look at as a set of treatments.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Okay, well, what role does structure function care play in
breast cancer? We do structure function care well.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Structure function care one of the things that the Center
of Disease Control talks about with breast cancer, there's many
different types of ways to approach it, and they give
you three. One where people go for the surgery and
they go for the whole medical route as a route
that is the only one that they do, which is
a common way of doing it. There's also a choice
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where people don't do anything, they just do palliative type
of care. You can also do a choice of care
where you're watching it and just doing structure function care,
which is considered more of an alternative means of doing it,
where you're trying to do it naturally, Or you can
come in where you're combining the two, where you're doing
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medical treatment and doing structure functioning care where you're working
with the structure and the function of the body to
get the optimal type of results. Each of those are
legitimate different ways of doing it, and people do have
a choice on which one that they want to do.
We support people, we don't try to influence them on
which way they go. We do try to monitor it
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and make sure that whichever direction that they're doing that
they're making progress. So lab tests are extremely important. There
are markers for breast cancer that you can follow which
are extremely accurate, and as we are doing those, we
can see if the course of treatment that you're actually
doing is working for you, which we always insist that
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people have consults with oncologists, make sure that they have
a full choice along the lines of what they're doing,
and then also give them a real good picture of
what we're doing with structure function care, because I feel
that definitely it makes a big difference if you're as
health the as you possibly can while you're going through
whatever choice you make on your breast cancer.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That that immune system is it is very very critical.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
There's toxicity, you know how well your liver's working, are
you detoxing, do you have your nutrients all up the part?
All those things make a very very big difference in
your outcome with a breast cancer.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
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of Health with doctor Robert Prather of Holistic Integration, the
(11:01):
most comprehensive wellness center in the Midwest. Well, we're talking
today about Breast Cancer Awareness Month, and if a radio
listener's been listening, we talk about what structure function care is,
But do you treat patients with breast cancer?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
We do.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That is a very common thing that people come into
us with to provide the best quality of care that
they possibly can, so that that's a very common type
of a diagnosis that we get in our office.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And I know you talked about making sure your patients,
if you're treating them, have an oncologist.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yes, one of the things that we always insist is
that they get a full picture and that they continue
with an oncologist as we're seeing them, because we want
a patient to have a very well informed view of
what's going on so that they can get all the
care that they possibly need.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
What areas of care do you provide with breast cancer?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
We look at the whole person. That's one of the
things that all the patients really say is that you
know you're looking at every different aspect of our care.
There are several things that go into any type of
a cancer that need to be addressed. Oxygenation is very
very critical. Oxygen kills cancer cells. The only ways that
you can develop cancer is if you have a lowered
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oxygenation to the cells, which is one thing that occurs.
You also have to have a weakened immune system. You
have to have some toxins that are kicking it off,
so detoxification is extremely important. Weakened immune system has to
have occurred, you have to have the genetic changes that happen,
and you also have to have a pH shift. All
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those different types of things that we need to look
at in a situation for the care of the patient.
Weight loss is an important thing. You know, if they
have too high a five percentage, what type of exercise,
what are their nutritional needs? All those different types of
things go in. So we really look at the person
talked a bottom and make sure sure that they get
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all the factors that are necessary to shift the body
away from more of a cancer state to more of
a healthy state.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, we were talking about some of the preventable things.
You talked about diets, So what role does diet play
in breast cancer?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Diet is huge. One thing that is very true is
that high fiber, a high fiber diet really cuts down
the incidents of especially colon and breast cancer. So there's
a real strong correlation on that which people don't Yeah,
people don't even think about it. And we've had pole
talks on just all that's involved with fiber, and we
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do a stool kit where we can determine what is
the level of fiber that you're taking in. So fiber
is very well established that it prevents cancer. We haven't
shown that it helps with cancer, but it's certainly something
that we raise up quite a bit. It's shifting the
diet more to a vegetarian diet is something that works
quite well. Cutting down on animal fats while increasing your
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omega threes, Mega sixes and omega nines, so more of
the vegetable fats is very important how you cook, cutting
down on food allergies. We have a very excellent food
sensitivity test is about ninety seven percent accurate. So shifting
their entire diet is extremely extremely important.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Getting that inflammation down, and.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Getting the inflammation down plays a very very huge role
in treating someone with any type of cancer, especially breast cancer.
Breast cancer is very sensitive to diet.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Can rbls be helpful with breast cancer?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Rbals are extremely helpful, one as a preventative and then
also to boost the especially the immune system while people
are going through trying to help their bodies get rid
of the cancer. So there are several different ones. Alva
it is extremely well known to be anti cancers. Eliatril,
of course, B seventeen is something that's in there that
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is been shown to be very effective against cancer cells.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So that's that was seventeen.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
B seventeen if you remember that when we went through
the whole visa. But we did a lot of thing
on that. Yeah, there was a lot of berbering. It's
found in golden seal, barbari root and oregon grape root.
So those are herbs that are very very helpful. Bromelaane
carnivora found in venus fly trap, so we use venus
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flytrap as a anti cancer. It's also a very strong
immune booster. Chlorala from freshwater algae very helpful. Cumerant we
find kumerant in don qui. You've certainly you've taken that before.
Sweet clover, red clover, and those are some of the
things that are found very commonly in something called the
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hoxy formula. That was a herbal formula that was put
together and was used as a cancer treatment in the
I say, it's very famous, the hoxy formula in different
forms of the kumaran in. There has been something that's
shown that's very effective, especially against breast cancer, curcumin and tumeric. Achinasia.
Akinasia is very good for draining out the lymphatic tissue
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and basically one of the big things that is very
important is how well is the lymp system flowing in
breasts to prevent and to help work with breast cancer.
Garlics and onion very good for cancer. Also, green tea
is something that is well known party Arca. We use
that quite a bit. Mistletoe, yes, actually missletoe that you
stand under is something that we use in our office
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pan Ex Gensen, and then Ojibwa tea we like. The
Ojibwa formula is something that Hiawatha actually was supposedly had
come up with and given to the Ojibwu tribe, and
they found that that was traded throughout North and South America.
There was a condensed formula of the ojibweb which was
called seact and there were about forty sac clinics throughout
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the United States at one point where they would use
that to treat it. But the Ojibi formula is a
lot more complicated than the simplified sech and we find
that that's actually more effective. And then chaitaki mushrooms also
or some of the herbs that are used against cancer,
so there's actually more of it. I figure that that's
a about along those lines.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
What's nice we can test specifically.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Which ones are going to work.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yess what place does Vitamins and minerals play.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Very very huge portion along those lines. One of the
important things is when you look at vitamin D. Vitamin
D probably is the vitamin that has the biggest effect
on breast cancer. The levels on that are very very
helpful to prevent breast cancer. And then also once you
have breast cancer, it's important to make sure that your
vitamin D levels remain at a healthy level. Now, you
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can also go too high with vitamin D, so you
need to be careful along those lines. That's why blood
tests are very important and extremely accurate, So that would
be one thing. Vitamin A is also very well known
to one prevent cancer and then to be very important
during a cancer treatment. Both of those are extremely important,
and fullic acid is probably the most important vitamin on
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preventing breast cancer. Fullic acid is the most common clinamin
deficiency B six, B twelve all play a very very
big role also in cancer. Vitamin C. Getting too low
on your levels on vitamin C is a big problem.
Low iron can also be a big problem, but also
too high of iron can kick off cancer.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It's all about homeostasis.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
All about homeostasis and balance in the system. Vitamin E
one of the things is fibrocystic disease when you have
too dense a breasts or painful breasts. Vitamin E and
iodine are two of the things that really take that
down quite amazingly. And also both of those are very
very important for keeping at a good level with breast cancer.
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So looking at those. Vitamin kay also plays a very
important role comfort going too high or too low. Again,
it's a homeostasis along with the balance of zinc. Both
of those plays a very big part in one treating
breast cancer and then also keeping breast cancer at bay. Germanium,
magnesium all play a very very big role in treating
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breast cancer. Making sure that those levels are all at
an optimum.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, very important. So when we come back more on
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Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm Lisa Prather and you're listening to the Voice of
Health with doctor Robert Or of Holistic Integration where we
get to the root cause of your health issue. We're
talking today about Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Gotch pray. Let's
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talk about free radicals. Why is free radical pathology so
important in breast cancer?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well, free radicals are probably one of the most important
ways of one. If you can keep your free radical
pathology down, very very important from preventing cancer, and then
if you get cancer, keeping that down is very important
to be able to get over it because it's the
free radicals that get released while we're having our oxidative process,
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we're making energy in our cells. Those free electrons go
around and cause damage to the tissue and also to
the cells. So a lot of the genetic mutations that
occur the kickoff cancer come from free radical pathology. The
higher you have of the free radicals, also, the more
dens your breasts become and the more tender they become,
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so really cutting down on those free radicals is extremely important.
That's why vitamin E plays such a big role in
helping with fibrocystic breast disease and also cuts down on
the free radicals during the cancer. One of the problems
that occur when you're getting treated for cancer. The chemo
and the radiation is very good for killing cancer cells,
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but it increases the free radical pathology in the body,
which starts to cause more damage and can perpetuate or
kick off new cancer. So keeping that and then getting
that under control is very very important, especially after get
over the cancer with a chemo in the radiation, oftentimes
it can kick up just because of the treatments that
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are involved in it that increase the free radical pathology.
So free radicals are basically what feed cancer, so getting
that down Vitamin E is a great way of doing it.
Vitamin C are all antioxidants and keeping up your antiaccidents
to prevent breast cancer during the time that you're being
treated for breast cancer and then afterwards making sure that
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those go down to a proper level is extremely important.
And we can do different types of tests to determine
what is the level of free radical pathology going on
in your system, so you can know. We can actually know,
so we're not guessing whether you have free radical pathology.
We know through the different types of tests, and then
we can do the treatments and we see a definite
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decrease on that. Everything's based on lab tests, so again
we're not guessing. We know as we're doing the treatments
whether we're making the improvement.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So how can acupuncture and chiropractic help with breast cancer patients.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
That's a very interesting area and something that is recommended.
Studies on anyone who's going through any different types of
cancer treatments, they find that if they get chiropractic and
acupuncture that there's an eighty percent decrease in adverse symptoms
wo neuropathy, even the hair loss, all the different types
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of things that people complain about. There's eighty percent less complaints. Now,
they didn't find a difference in the longevity or the
death rate. What they found is that people were extremely
more comfortable and had less problems after the whole cancer treatment.
So there was less neuropathy, there was less brain fog,
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so very important for the symptomatology and something that everybody
should be looking at.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
How about homeopathy.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Now, homeopathy we consider our biggest effect on any type
of a treatment in the body, homeopathy when we can
get that and figure out exactly what homeopathics are needed,
and there are three thousand different homeopathics that are considered classical,
and there is another twenty thousand that have been added
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to the whole repertoire. So there's a tremendous amount of
effects on homeopathy. And homeopathy is one of the things
that we can make the quickest and the the most
dramatic changes in the body. And how it works the
big thing that people have against homeopathy, so they don't
understand why it works. Homeopathy is basically based on vibrational energy,
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so it's based on quantum physics, and the truth of
the matter is is that we are not really solid matter.
We are a vibration, and so homeopathy gets to the
root of the problems and then finds out what type
of a vibrational change needs to be made in your
body and changes the whole constitution of what's going on
the reason that homeopathy may not work on people is
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you have to find exactly which one is going to
work the best. And that's where we really have the
upper hand because we can actually test and go through
all the different types of twenty five thousand different homeopathics
and find out which one's going to work.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The best way. It just sounds like a long appointment.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I tell people I just went through three thousand different
homeopathics on you and less than a minute, and they
go really, and I say, yes. We find out like
for you, the homeopathic that works really great for you,
Lisa is a CPIA and that has a big effect,
and we can see some immediate types of changes. Sometimes
we can hit the right homeopathic and then when we
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do a breast examine immediately afterwards after taking it, there's
a difference in the density of the breast, which even
the patient can feel the difference, so they're like, wow,
that is making a huge difference already. The other things
really take a little bit more time to work, but
homeopathy works just like that.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I love homeopathy, Yeah, love my cpia. Well, let's talk
about underwire brass.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
One of the things that is very very critical is
lymphatic system when you're talking about breast cancer. Basically, how
well your lymph system is doing is how well the
breasts are going to be doing. And so anything that
causes problems with the lymphatic system is a problem for
the breasts. It's a circulatory system. If you have under
our bras that can cut off breast lymphatic circulation. Breasts
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were designed to move, They're supposed to be pumping the
lymph system, and if you restrict the motion of the breast,
you're going to cut out the lymphatic flow. That's one
of the reasons that echinasia or any type of other
different types of herbels that help with lymph flow is
very important for the breast.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It was a mister Brazier, right.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, actually he stole it, okay, and really his name
really was Titsling.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Oh, but it was a male, right. What screenings are
important for breast cancer?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Of course, you know having the imaging. Now, there are
several different types of imaging. One of course is the mammogram.
Now there are controversy with the mammogram because there was
a study that came out that said mammograms can increase
the risk for breast cancer and that's basically from the radiation. Radiation,
of course is bad and it's a soft tissue radiation,
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so that's an issue, and then also the pressure on there.
But there are other means of also examining the breast.
There is ultrasound, MRI and also thermography, but having imaging
on the breast is very important. Also having the genetic
tests and then also measuring all the other different types
of factors, are you anemic, is your liver toxic? And
then also having the physical exam because dense breasts, tender
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breasts are always assigned, and then also looking for lumps
or other different types of changes in the breast are
very very important to make sure that you are up
on that and can pick up anything that might be
going on at an early stage. The earlier you can
get something, the better. And then also genetic.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Testing and then self examination.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Self examination and physician examination is important.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Right, well, why does someone with breast cancer seek out
a structure function doctor along with medical care? And we
just have a few seconds all right.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It's very important that you're as healthy as you possibly can.
Even just one thing, being an emic can increase your
chances of having a bad outcome for breast cancer by
fifty percent. Okay, that's just one factor.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Thank you, dok to pray there. Up next, we're going
to be hearing from Joy and her journey with breast cancer.
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the Voice of Health with doctor Robert Prather of Holistic Integration,
where our mission is restored Hope to our patients. Well
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for our Restoring Hope segment today, we are joined by
Tommy and Joy to share Joy's story, Joy, how did
you come to the practice?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I have been sick with a blood parasite for over
twenty five years five years and have been from.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Doctor to doctor to doctor.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I had been out of the country in Perue, South
America and contracted this parasite and came back into the
country and I did find a tropical disease specialist who
was able to name it. He knew what it was,
but he retired very shortly into my seeing him, So
that led us to go on this long journey of
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trying to find a doctor who knew about this parasite,
and we literally went to forty nine doctors, nine forty
nine and natural doctors as well as allopathic or conventional doctors,
and none of them really even knew what this was,
much less did they really even understand about parasites or
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even how to treat them. And it continued to weaken
my immune system to the point that I believe that's
how I got the cancer, because my immune system had
gotten that week that I got the breast cancer diagnosis
in twenty sixteen. And we have a local chiropractor back home,
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and of course I am at home is Macomb, Mississippi. Yeah,
what nine hundred miles away. He told me one day
that I know a doctor who I know can help you.
Told me about doctor Prather, and I immediately went home
and I called for a free consultation and had a
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free consultation with doctor Praither, and immediately he started explaining
to me about parasites and how to kill them and
get rid of them. And I told him about the
answer as well, but I was more excited that he
knew about the parasites then, because I knew that it was.
It had to have been one of the main route
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causes for the cancer. Got off the phone with him,
and I was so excited, and Tommy came home from
work and we talked about it, and God just sent
us a verse in Isaiah that says, whether you look
to the left or the right, you'll hear a voice
behind you saying this is the way.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Walk in it.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And when we heard that voice, knew immediately we had
the peace that this was where God wanted us to come.
And we really didn't know how all this was going
to work, but God did, and God had already gone
before us and prepared the way.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
And here we are.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And when you say, you know how God's worked it
out even because you stay in extended time when you're here,
it could be a week at a time, and He's
provided house sitting for you and new friends and.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
It's amazing how he worked at that through friends that
we had at home, and just happened to know people
here in Indianapolis that He's provided homes for us to
stand because of the weakened state that my body was
already in because of the parasite when I was first
diagnosed and went to the on collogist and the three
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doctors that I was seeing. At first, I told them
that I could not do chemo, radiation or surgery. I
was actually not opposed to the surgery until he told
me he could not do the double miseectomy without first
doing nine rounds of chemo and then more chemo and
radiation after the surgery. And he knew my history, and
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I said, if I do that, then that is going
to kill what little bit of immune system I still
have and I will have nothing to fight with. He said,
I understand, he said, but this is the only protocol
that I can offer to you.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I wasn't able to.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Go that, and I'm grateful because I honestly don't think
I would be here because my body would not have
been able to withstand that harsh of treatment with the
little bit of immune system that I did have left
to fight with. And I truly truly believe in Doctor
Prather has helped me to understand this. Even more so
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is how important the immune system is, and it is
what God created in our bodies to fight disease with
and to fight sickness with. So it just makes sense
when doctor Prether explains to me that you build the
immune system up, you build your body up, and then
your body can fight the cancer on its own. And
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that is exactly what's happened.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That's exciting. Thank you for sharing that all of our
patients receive thorough diagnostics when they come. What did those
initial tests, like the prey through profile blood work reveal
about your health?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
The main thing that it showed was how unhealthy my
body was, how unhealthy the organs were, my pancreas, my kidneys,
my thyroid, my liver, my adrenal glands, my spleen, all
of those things were very unhealthy.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Well, can you tell us a little bit about your
first visit at the practice.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I wanted to just mention this because it's such a
difference when they referred me to the doctor's back home.
When I first got my diagnosis, I had to meet
with several doctors and the oncologist was one of them,
and I just will never forget going into the waiting
room there in that hospital setting, and it was dark
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and it was drab, and nobody was smiling. It even
had an unpleasant smell, and I just felt so bad
for all of those people sitting there. And then went
to talk to the doctor, and the only thing that
she offered me was the same thing, you know, the
same protocol. And then on top of that, she wanted
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me to take a certain drug that had very much
of a side effect of putting me at risk to
get another cancer, a different type cancer, on top of
the breast cancer that I already had. I could not
understand that. I couldn't understand going that route. But in
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talking to doctor Praether on the phone, and then when
I got here, I remember walking into the lobby, the
waiting room, people were smiling, people were laughing. There's just
a pleasant atmosphere. There was just a pleasant feel. All
the girls up in the front desk just greeted us
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and we're so friendly and just smiled, and I just
felt hope when I walked in the door. And then
when I went to talk to Pray with it for
the first time, I just remember him just Patty on
the shoulder and saying it's gonna be okay. And you
can't imagine what that felt like to hear that hope
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in him when all I had seen was doctors who
I felt were more fearful than I was, and so
to hear him say it's going to be okay. And
to know the confidence and the hope that I saw
that he had, it restored that hope really in my
heart that I needed. And it's just been that way
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ever since. It just gotten better and better, just more hopeful,
and it has been great. So when he first did
the diagnostics in that first visit, we had done all
the scans that they had asked us to do, the
pet skins, the MRI, the sonograms, the mammograms, even the
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bob sees and all of that that they asked us
to do, and had not had real good experiences and
not real definite answers really other than from the bio see,
they found I had stage two breast cancers where it
was at first it was probably around three stage three
or four by the time I got to doctor Praither.
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But even with the MRI, they sent us the results
of another patience test results and so we just had
experiences one after another like that. And the radiologists when
they found out I had gone to Mexico, they were
so discouraging and they told me, don't you realize You're
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going to die from breast cancer if you don't do
this protocol. You need to just quit doing what you're
doing and put all that natural stuff away and just
follow this protocol, because you're going to die if you don't.
And I heard that from one doctor after another. When
I got here and doctor Praither did his diagnostics, he
began to find real answers, and he found that so
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many organs in my body were unhealthy. And not only that,
he found that I had not just one parasite, but
I had like twenty six different parasites in my body.
What he did in one blood test and one stool
test found more answers than any of all of those
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other scans did put together.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Business went to.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Right, and then from there he could start going to
the root cause of what was actually causing my weakened
immune system, which was causing the cancer, and start going after.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
The root causes, which is what he has done.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
And it's built up my body and built up my
immune system to the point that when I came here,
my cancer markers were in the eighties and now they're
in the twenties.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
So it just and he told us it was going
to be two years, and almost to the day, it's
been two years and We're just about where he wanted
me to be.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
That's wonderful. So let's talk about the various services you
received here. I know you got lymphatic massage right as
a treatment. You've been doing the supplementation with the ads
and acupuncture and chiropractic. Let's just talk about those services
and how they've helped you.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay, First of all, the homeopathics have been amazing, the
homeopathic injections and the supplements that I take there. When
my original tropical disease doctor had told me that I
would never.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Be rid of this parasite, that it would.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Lie dormant, it would be active, that I would never
be rid of it, though, and I get to doctor
Praither and he says, oh, no, you have something that's
going to kill it. It's gonna obliterate it and it's
going to be gone. And that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
And it took about six.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Months of the homeopathics and treating the parasite to where
he had killed the adult stage, the larva stage, and
the ex stage, and it was gone out of my
body for the first time in twenty five years. You
know that it had been there that long, and now
it was that it was gone. So he did some
specific lymphatic chiropractic adjustments. Basically, his spinal fluid was totally
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blocked in my body, and so he did this what
seemed like a simple adjustment. It was very gentle, it
was very easy. But in that one little adjustment, it
completely opened up that yes, cerebral spinal fluid that's right again,
so it can flow like it's supposed to do. And
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that was one of my biggest proble blms is my
blocked and stagnant lymphatic system, the limp flow and not
being able to eliminate like I'm supposed to, like my
body is supposed to to be able to eliminate cellular waste.
And then he also found that the ilio seco valve,
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which is that valve in between the large intestine and
small intestine, it has this sole flap on it, and
the flap was staying shut and because it wasn't opening
and closing like it was supposed to, it was causing
all kinds of inflammation. And so he had a very
special adjustment for that that he did. And I remember
the first time he did it, I reached up and
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grabbed his arm.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
I was like, whoa wow, did that open it up?
And he's like, yep, that did it. So it's just.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Amazing what he can do and his knowledge of the
body and how he knows it all works together and
what needs to be done in order to clean up
the body in there, to get it functioning to its
optimal I have, and to get that limp flowing like
it should. And he has a special program on that,
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by the way, on the radio show that if anybody
needs information on which he's got all kind of different
topics that he talks on, but that one was very helpful,
so helpful to me to help me to understand the
lymphatic system and how important that is to my healing.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
So what results have you seen so far?
Speaker 3 (46:34):
I can say that doctor Praether has absolutely saved my life.
I don't think I would be here had it not
been for his knowledge and his wisdom and all that
he has done to find the things in my body
that needed to be healed and cleaned up in order
to build my immune system back up, which has allowed
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me to be here with my family. Yes, still homeschool
my boys. I just think about throughout the whole two
years that we've been coming. Even though the trips have
been very hard, driving twelve hours at a time, and
at first we were coming once a month, staying for
a week at a time. We have gotten exhausted and
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weary during those trips, but I haven't had to miss
one soccer game or a graduation of our older son
from high school, or any of their events or special
things that we do as a family, or just being
there for my family to be able to take care
of them and to be able to continue to homeschool
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and to be able to, you know, just take.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Care of the things at home.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I have been able to continue to do all of that.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Was it last time too?
Speaker 1 (47:50):
You both went ziplining at Eagle Free Did we took
after that?
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yeah? Very challenging it was, But just to have the
strength to be able to do that was huge. It's
just continuing to for doctor Prayther to build my body up.
Instead of having it to be broken down and the
immune system to be suppressed, he has built it back up.
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Just every visit given me more energy.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
And you can see that from the first time you
came in till now.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I sat down and wrote a list of my symptoms
before I came to look back and to be able
to see the difference in myself. Now. There's probably thirty
symptoms on here, anything from severe fatigue, brain fog, lower
back pain, hair falling out, night sweats, chemical sensitivity. I
had cyst in different places in my body, couldn't sleep,
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extreme nervousness, severe constipation, nauseated, very cold all the time,
being off balance, anxious, feeling unstable. And I could just
go on and on.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
I mean, it's just and there's.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Even so much more on here that I was experiencing,
and all of these things are getting better. I was
having migraines, swelling in my stomach, legs, and feet, and
I can say that all of these things are getting better.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
That's exciting. So one of the amazing things about your
story is the number of people who you have brought
along with you because you've been so excited to share
your experience here. I mean, how many people have you
brought here?
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Well, we were counting last night.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I think it's around twenty to twenty.
Speaker 6 (49:43):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
That I were just so grateful that we have a
doctor and a place to tell them about now, because
a lot of our friends were sick like us, and
now we have that hope to go back and tell them, hey,
we know where you can go now, a doctor that
you can go to that's going to be able to
get to the root cause of your sickness and.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
Help you get well.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
So and it's wonderful us to be able to see
them come in and to go back home, and to
see that health and wellness that they're receiving as well,
and to see them getting better.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
That's exciting. I want to make sure before we end
that you share anything else, or Tommy, if there's something
you want to share.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
I wanted to tell a story about my endocrinologists back home.
He's been an endocrinologist for about fifteen years. So when
I told him about where I was coming and what
I was going to be doing, he said, you know,
I just wish you the best, and he said, and
I want you to do this for me. He said,
if you get there and your thibroid gets better, you
come back and you tell me about it. And he said,
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and I'm going to apologize to you because I feel
like maybe I haven't been doing everything that could be done.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
And so I did. After two years, they actually con
tag toed me.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
This was about a month ago and said, you know,
if you don't come back in, we can't keep you
as a patient. And he could see how well I
was doing, and he was really glad about that. So
I gave him the Praith profile from doctor Prather so
he could see all the blood work and he looked
at it and he said, wow.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
So I'm not sure what you want me to do.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
It looks like you are doing great and like you
were getting everything you need and things are going in
the right direction, and you just keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
So well.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Thank you, Joy, Thank you for and Tommy too. You're
here for support and wonderful husband takes good care of you,
doesn'ty Oh yes.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
Oh yes, I cannot. That's another thing. I couldn't be
here if it wasn't for him. He has been my stronghold.
Story in the Bible of Moses where Aaron and the
other man were holding up his hands when he couldn't
stand any longer, and that's what Tommy has done.
Speaker 4 (52:04):
Held up my hands through this.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
And he's just been my biggest support and he has
worked hard back home to provide for us to be
able to make the trips. And I can't say what
a big enough blessing he is in my life.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Well, you guys have become like family.
Speaker 5 (52:26):
There's times I've had to go home when she's had
to stay, and it's hard when you know you see
your wife going through these things. But when you have
a staff and you have the love that they have
here for their patients as well as the professionals that
they are, it makes it a lot easier to go
home and to leave her here in these hands that
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I know that she is way beyond taking care of.
I've never seen it in any place like this. Like
I said, We've been to forty nine other doctors in
many facilities, but I've never seen the care and the
commitment that I see it and the way they take
care of their patients. So y'all are such a blessing
to us for all that everyone here has done for us.
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And y'all welcome us in just like family when we come,
and we kind of get excited when we get to come.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
We have a good trip.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
When we're here, we have fun.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
And that's the neat thing about coming here is just
as George spoke about, if we would have went the
other way of treatment, you don't have this you don't
see as much hope in there, and we pray for
those people each and every day, and that's the way
God's got them going. And I know there's a lot
that comes through there that is good. But for us,
we know this is the way that God has gone
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before us and provided the way. We never would have
thought eight hundred miles away was where we needed to be.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
But it is thank you both, truly a blessing to us,
to our patients, and we love.
Speaker 4 (53:57):
You guys, love y'all too. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Up to on Joy's story, Joy received her latest blood
test would show her cancer markers in the normal range
and at the lowest levels they've been since she's been
a patient. Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh
two North Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis,
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just south of the I four sixty five loop. If
we can help you to achieve better health, we'd love
to hear from you. Connect with our office at three
one seven eight four eight eighty forty eight. That's three
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