CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE: THE PROBLEM

This week, we kick off a 4-part series on the #1 killer in America by talking about the problem of Cardiovascular Disease.   In this episode, you'll discover:

—How Cardiovascular Disease was identified as the #1 killer back in the 1950's and is STILL the #1 killer today, which Dr. Prather says "raises some questions".
—The two top competing theories about the underlying cause of Heart Disease among researchers back in the 1970's.  And why Dr. Prather believes the winning theory of Cholesterol as the main cause is wrong.
—The dangerous side effects of anti-cholesterol Statin drugs and why patients come to Dr. Prather seeking alternatives.
—How Cholesterol is in our bodies for healing and is "there to save your life".  And the connection between those who live over the age of 100 and an overall Cholesterol level of 300.
—The Cardiac C-Reactive Protein Test that is "probably the best indicator of whether you're going to have a heart attack or not".
—The four main things Dr. Prather says are the real cause of Cardiovascular Disease:  Inflammation, Oxygenation and Nutrient Deprivation,  Electrical Conduction Disruption from Nerve and Mineral Issues, and Food Allergies.
—How Inflammation is the cause of Vascular Disease.  And how that Inflammation increases when you try to "artificially" lower Cholesterol levels.
—Why the Coxsackie B Virus is so prevalent in Indianapolis and can lead to Cardiovascular Disease.
—How the Atlas Orthogonal Chiropractic Adjustment can have a bigger effect on Hypertension than Prescription High Blood Pressure Medication.
—Why Dr. Prather says "the heart can actually regenerate in an amazing type of way" and that he did not even expect to see the things he has seen in his office with all the positive changes in patients.
 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Praither and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Talking today about cardiovascular the number one killer
in America, and this is going to be a four
part series, so today will be part one. We're going

(00:36):
to talk about the problem. What is the problem? So
cardiovascular the number one killer in America, Doctor Praither, what
are the statistics of cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, cardiovascular disease, as you said, is the number one killer,
and it has been for quite a while. As a
matter of fact. One of the things that kind of
kicked off the whole look along those lines was and
Eisenhower had a heart attack and they looked at it
and it had become really the number one killer for men.
So they said, oh, we've got a problem here, you know,

(01:11):
we need to figure out how to get this under control.
So they started a whole bunch of research trying to
figure it out, you know, and coming up with some
answers along those lines. It was the number one killer.
It's still the number one killer.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
And yeah, how long ago was that.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
That was back in the nineteen fifties, okay, but during
that time they said, we need to find an answer,
so they really started to look at the whole thing
and try to figure out what was it that was
the underlying cause for cardiovascular disease. It's the number one
killer and both men, women and every race and group.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Wow, men and women, both.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Men and women. It basically accounts for one out of
every three deaths.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
In America, one out of three, one out.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Of three, and as you get older, the more likely
that is to actually hit you. So it's something that
is a real emphasis in our practice, you know, on
making sure that cardiovascular disease is something that we check on.
It can be a silent killer, you know, and people
aren't aware of what's happening, and so you know, it's

(02:22):
something that doctors need to be looking at, having people
checked on, and making sure that that's not going to
be a problem for them. So then of course the
problem along those lines is that it's still the number
one killer. So that raises some questions.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Right, you know, doctor pray through when we talk about
cardiovascular disease, you know, and we we keep talking about
how it's been the number one killer in America for
quite a long time. Let's define what you mean by
cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Sure, cardiovascular disease is disease that's caused by the arteries
and the heart. So anything dealing with the cardio, which
is the heart, and everything dealing with the vascular the arteries.
So anything along those lines is considered cardiovascular disease. Arterioscrosis, athroscrosis,

(03:18):
congestive heart failure, myocardioinfarction, all those different things would be
under the umbrella of cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay, good, I just wanted to define that. So what
is the prevailing theory of what causes cardiovascular disease?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, the big thing is, you know, they started to
look at that and say, you know, what is it
that actually kicks us off? And there were two main
researchers that were in the nineteen seventies, John Yudkin and
an Sell Keys, and they were both competing for what
they felt was the underlying problem with cardiovascular disease. John

(03:58):
Yudkin said it was the sh sugar that was the
main issue.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
The sugar intakes, the large.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Amount of sugar that the population was taking in an
cel Keys says it was saturated fat and cholesterol. So
they were competing as far as on which direction they
would go. An cel Key's got a tremendous amount of
money from the sugar industry because he was saying, it's
not the sugar. So it's amazing how that works. And

(04:30):
so he was saying, if we switched the basically animal fats,
got away from animal fats, butter beef, all those different
types of things that has animal fat, then we could
actually solve the cholesterol problem. And John Yudkin was saying
it was the sugar. So they did a bunch of research.

(04:52):
An cel Keys is the guy who came through and won,
and so they had determined that it was cholesterol is
the main part. And as you look at that, we
were kind of saying that cholesterol was I always like
to compare that it's a big research project and you're
looking at fires. Okay, so the city has a lot

(05:15):
of fires, so they look at it and they say,
you know, whenever there's a lot of fires, there's a
lot of firemen, and if you get rid of the firemen,
get that under control, the fires will decrease. So cholesterol,
in our opinion, is a big indicator of cardiovascular disease absolutely, However,

(05:41):
it doesn't cause it, okay, So that's our prevailing theory.
One of the things is that if you actually look
at the results of all this time. You know, when
we're talking about anti cholesterol, the statins, there is twenty
five billion statins sold in America a year, twenty five billion,

(06:06):
twenty five billion, And with that amount of treatment, you
would think that we would see a decrease in the
number of cardiovascular.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Incidents, right if we're finding the right treatment.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
If we're finding the right treatment, it's still the number
one killer, right, So you know there's something wrong with
the philosophy of our model right now.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, well, let's talk about that. What are the disease
care treatments for cardiovascular disease, Well, the statins are one
of them.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
The basic thing is cholesterol lowering drugs. You know, that's
the cholesterol. Let's get the cholesterol under control, and we
should actually show a decrease in the number of cardiovascular doests.
So that's the big thing that they're looking at. Then,
of course they did surgery. Big thing was bypass surgeries

(07:03):
back earlier in the seventies and eighties, was a big
thing that they were doing, and it became called by
by surgery.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Instead of bypass.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
In other words, it really didn't work. So they've gone
more to stents.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Stints.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, and stents and those types of surgeries can be
very helpful to get things under you know, immediately under
control as far as a stop gap, but it hasn't
really changed the life expectancy of those who have the
In other words, it doesn't solve the problem. So there
are temporary helps. The statins are very good at lowering

(07:45):
the cholesterol and if that was an accurate assessment by
an sell keys and then we follow that we should
have a decrease in the number of cardiovascular dots and
we don't. That's because it's a wrong theory.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
And yeah, how successful. Maybe you've already answered this, but
is disease care model for cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, it hasn't made any difference whatsoever. We haven't seen
a dramatic change. If this was something that should have worked,
it didn't work. And you know, we are group of
functional medicine where we're really looking at how the body
should work. Have said that this isn't going to work

(08:34):
because cholesterol is an indicator of inflammation in the arteries.
It's not a cause.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Say that again, that's important.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
So cholesterol is an indicator of cardiovascular disease absolutely, So
seeing that come down naturally is something that we expect
to see, but it's not cause. And if you lower
it artificially, you do not change the cardiovascular outcomes. A

(09:10):
matter of fact, you actually cause more problems than you
actually help. Twenty percent of all statin users are injured
by them, which is something that is just very well known.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Are we talking about like side effects.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Side effects? Yes, and forty seven percent of all adults
quit using them within a year because of negative side effects.
I mean they can forty seven percent stop. A matter
of fact, I have one of the common things is
that people come in and say, hey, I'm going off
my setins. I need a natural way to do it.

(09:46):
There's no way I'm going to continue on these things.
So what do you give that a lot? What do
you have to help me?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
And we're going to talk about that. So we will
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Speaker 1 (13:58):
We're talking today about cardiovasular disease, the number one killer
in America, and this is part one of a four
part series that we'll be doing. We're talking about the
problem on this show. So you know what really hit me,
doctor Prayther, when you're going over the statistics, Well, twenty
five billion.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Five billion in statins and stantons they are bought a year.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Wow, it's a twenty five billion dollar industry, and of
course there's an awful lot of money behind it to
keep that as.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
The these are dollars twelve five billion dollars. Okay, gotcha.
And then the other stat that really hit me, forty
seven percent of adults quit using their stands because of
the side effects, right, and they're looking for more alternative alternative. Yeah,
you see that with patients. Sure, people come to.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
People don't want to die from cardiovascular disease. A lot
of people come in and say, hey, my dad died
from a heart attack. You know, cardiovascular disease runs in
my family. You know my brother already had a heart attack.
What can I do to keep this under control? Went
to my cardiologists, they put me on statins. I felt

(15:14):
like I had aged about twenty years in a couple
of weeks, and I'm getting off of it. You know,
what do I do? So one of the things is
that it's very smart if you're having side effects for
that to get off. I have had some patients die
from rabbitomilosis, which is a disease that is actually caused

(15:36):
by the statins where there's a failure you get pain
throughout the body. And each one of them was actually
a medical doctor patient the patients because they were more
compliant in keeping on taking it. So what happened was
they came in because of back paying neck pain. They
heard I was good. I checked them out and I said,

(15:59):
it's not your fine, you know, let me review your
drug history. And I said, let me do some blood work.
And I did the blood work. It was positive for
they were starting to develop rhabdomallosis, which is a muscle
degenerative disease caused by statins. And they said, well, let
me take this to my cardiologists. I said, please do

(16:21):
and the cardiologist says, well, if you stop the statins,
you're going to die from a heart attack, you know,
because they believed that that was the cause, which I
don't believe in the first place. But they said, well,
you know, I'm not going to I said there. I said, well,
would you believe Mayo? And I said yeah, And of
course it takes a couple of weeks to get your appointment.
They went up there and they said, oh, yeah, you

(16:42):
got to get off that stuff now. But it was
too late. And so you know, that is something is
you need to listen to your own body. You should
actually not necessarily always trust your doctor, but actually listen
to your own intelligence and know that that is something

(17:03):
that if it doesn't feel right, it's probably not right.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, and that's the thing. Some of these places people
can't get into, you know, they're waiting for very important appointments. Sure,
you know, and that's one thing. We always block appointments.
We can always get people in and I like that. So, well,
let's talk about you know, one thing I want our
listeners to know is we did a show called the

(17:30):
Cholesterol Myth that goes into more detail about cholesterol. We're
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doctor Brayther in your opinion on cholesterol, you know what

(17:50):
is your opinion on cholesterol and cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, the cholesterol is something that is there for healing.
So cholesterol is what makes up the cells. It also
makes up the.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Brain, it's important, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Makes your hormones, it makes vitamin D. Matter of fact,
people say, well, you know what do I do about
my cholesterol? And I says, well, first off, your liver
is sick and the body's going to produce more clesterol
to try to heal it. So if we can get
your liver and sick, then that will lower your cholesterol.
It's also something that you know helps to make vitamin D.

(18:29):
Your low on vitamin D. We can get your vitamin
D up and that will lower your cholesterol, you know
right there. Yeah, and then also your hormones. You know,
your low testosterone, your low thyroid, your low adrenals. The
body's cholesterol is converted into the hormones, so if we
can get that up, then you're also going to have help.

(18:50):
And then we can check as far as what's going
on in the arteries, and we see that there's a
lot of inflammation and the body puts out cholesterol to
try to It is very important for absorbing free radicals.
So if you have a heavy free radical issue, if
there's other different types of inflammatory problems through the cardiovascular system,

(19:13):
that's what it's there for, is to try to heal
that up.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I think two. Cholesterol has just gotten this bad, you know,
think lower it, lower it, you know, but you need
it right and your brain needs it.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Basically, your body doesn't really work if your cholesterol goes
below one to forty. You need at least a one
to forty. In a matter of fact, people who live
a long time, you know, you hear about people who
live to almost one hundred and twenty. The interesting thing
that they all have in common is they have a
cholesterol of three hundred or above, but they have a

(19:47):
very high h deal And we talk about that in
the cholesterol myth how that's really important. It's the ratio
that's actually important, not so much the level. A matter
of fact, the higher the level with a good ratio,
it keeps you young. It's actually an anti aging type
of issue. So cholesterol is trying to save you and

(20:09):
it's a good indicator of how things are going, but
it's not the.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Culprit right right, So if cholesterol isn't the problem, then
what is.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
In cardiovascular disease? Actually, I think John Yutkin was more
accurate than anceel Keys and basically what you're talking about.
One of the things we look at. One of the
biggest things is the lining of the arteries, is the
inflammatory process in the arteries if you can keep and

(20:40):
to be honest with you, a lot of the really
good young cardiologists don't believe in the cholesterol theory. They
have to give it m because it's the standard of care,
but they don't really believe in it. The big thing
that you look at is your inflammatory markers. You can
do play tests on that and actually see what's going on.

(21:03):
One of the most important ones is cardiac C reactive protein,
which that inflammation is probably the best indicator in whether
you're going to have a heart attack or not. And
then also insulin resistance, So what happens is the sugar,
the insulin, the free radicals, and the inflammatory process through

(21:27):
the arteries are really the things that go in there
and actually injure everything. So you have that whole inflammatory
process going through the arteries and if you can take
that inflammation down, you're going to not have the vascular disease.
The other thing is the heart. The heart, it becomes

(21:50):
actually deprived of oxygen and nutrients, and so it's a
nutritional and a oxygen type of deprivation. The other thing
that goes on is the electrical currents, and that's controlled
by the nerves and by the minerals of the system,

(22:11):
So controlling really looking at those three things, and then
also allergies are also a big thing. Food allergies can
kick off heart problems too. So you've got inflammation, you've
got the lowered oxygenation and nutrients, and then also you
have the minerals and the nerves that are causing problems

(22:33):
across through there, and also possibility of food allergies. Those
are really the four things that kick off heart disease.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Can you repeat those again?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Sure? And of course I want to talk about those
in the individual. Yeah, it's inflammation through the arteries, inflammatory
process that we really look at to see about getting
that under control. Then we also look at the oxygen
and nutrient deprivation of the heart, and then we also

(23:04):
look at the nerves and then also the minerals for
the electrical conduction and then also a good possibility of
food allergies. Yeah, so those are the four things that
we feel. There can be other things that can affect that, right,
which we'll talk about a little bit. But those are
the four things on cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, and you mentioned free radicals, and I want to
make sure when we get back from break that we
talk about what those are. All right, We'll be right
back on cardiovascular the number one killer in America. Listen
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I'll tie some leaves to the ceiling and see if
I can get some action.

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Speaker 2 (25:55):
Having your vitamin D at an optimal level just really
prevents a huge amount of infection. You don't want to
get too toxic, so we do a blood test and
it tells us exactly where it's at. It was very
well proven through many, many different types of studies that
eighty five percent of the people who had died from
the COVID would not have died or had to go
to the hospital even if their vitamin D level was

(26:15):
at a normal level.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
And that's an easy fix. In the last twenty maybe
I should say one hundred blood works you've reviewed how
many people have low vitamin.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
D ninety percent, but I mean a lot of them
are actually in a critical level, really about a third.
It means that therapy and system isn't working. It's not
going to work if your vitamin D levels are that low. Really,
all they had to do is go after vitamin C,
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listening to the Voice of Health with doctor Robert Prather
of Holistic Integration, where we get to the root cause
of your health issue. We're talking about cardiovascular the number
one killer in America. This is part one of a
four part series. We're talking about the problem this part one. So,

(28:33):
doctor Prayther, you mentioned inflammation. We're going to talk about
free radicals in this we'll cover that. But you mentioned
inflammation as a major cause of cardiovascular disease. Why is
that important?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, you know, I mean one thing is that cholesterol
goes in there to kind of try to cool down
the inflammation. M So it's like, of course cholesterol is there,
it's actually trying to save your life. Yeah, you know,
because the inflammation is something that kicks up. And it's
interesting because when when you artificially lower cholesterol, the inflammation
actually increases.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
So, and it's the inflammation that causes the vascular disease,
not the cholesterol. Now the clesterol can become a problem
because then it can over accumulate, and that's an issue
that you need to deal with. But you have to
get to the root of the cause, you know, to
really get that under control, because if you just get
the in other words, you're not going to accomplish what

(29:27):
you're trying to accomplish if you don't deal with that.
And as I said, you know, like John Yudkin was
talking about the sugar and basically the glucose that's too
high in the bloodstream is definitely an issue. It does
damage the arteries. Also, the insulin that's going through the system,

(29:49):
if it's not going into the cells as it should,
also damages the arteries. So looking at what you call
insulin resistance cells, which is something that you know we
work with quite a bit, is it a real big issue.
So that's something that we look at as a good
indicator of inflammation in the arteries. The other things that
can actually kick that off is free radical pathology.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Right, let's talk about that well.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Free radicals. Free radicals are basically, we have the oxidative
process where we make energy for the body atp and
as you do that. Oxygen is a very unstable molecule.
That's why it's very good for making chemical reactions. So
it's very good for actually making ATP. Because it is unstable,

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it's easy to knock off. But when an electron, when
things go wrong, oxygen electrons get fired off into the
system and they cause damage throughout the body. Matter of fact,
if you had a perfectly operating oxidative process where you
are perfectly working your whole ATP, you look like you're
twenty one. The rest of your life. I holding the

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whole reason you age. It's just like the oxidatid process
is what causes rust on a gait. So as we're
getting older, we're getting rustier because of the free radicals.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Speak for yourself.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
So the free radicals are a big issue, and they
go through and you know, there's the free radical theory
of disease, which it definitely is involved. It's not the
only thing, but it's definitely involved in cardiovascular disease and
also cancer. So free radicals go through cause damage. And
guess what, Cholesterol is the main thing that absorbs free radicals.

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So you know, if you reduce the cholesterol artificially without
reducing the free radicals, you're going to increase the inflammation
and the arteries because that's the main thing that actually
helps you. So and of course if you have free radicals,
you take antioxidants to keep the free radicals down right.
That's why that's an important type of thing. So we

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look at them. The other thing that can cause inflammation
through the arteries, there are things that actually which goes
beyond that actually then starts to lay down plaque. So
you know, there's also inflammatories along those lines, but also infections.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Infections, yea.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Infections are something that can kick off inflammation and there
are certain types of infections that are well known to
do that. So as you look through the system, that's
one of the things that we're looking for, is there
infections in the arteries that's actually kicking it off. One
of the most common ones is the Koksaki virus, specifically

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Koksaki be and we find that an awful lot. Indianapolis
is like Koksaki capital of the world. It's so prevalent
into here. A matter of fact, I was talking to
an immunologist about a patient and he says, there and
he says, you know, it's nice talking to you. It's
fun to actually find somebody who knows about all the

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different infections. Most of the doctors I talk too don't know.
So he says, this is pretty good. And I'm wondering,
you know, can you tell me why so many Indianapolis
people have Koksaki virus?

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
And I sat there and I said, well, it's actually
because of the water supply. You know, if you don't
have a good purification system, you know, it's an enteric virus.
It's actually passed most commonly through the water. Matter of fact,
there's times where you know, I see all this Koksaki
coming through because of the water system. And so it's

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something that we have to be aware of, especially in Indianapolis,
keeping that Koksaki down. And I've had I remember one
patient that I had emergency type of thing. It was koksaki.
You had gone from basically a healthy person to going
into cardiovascular disease cardiomyopathy, and you know, all sorts of
different types of cardiovascular things going on, and they were

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trying to do different types of things, but everything that
they were doing was just making it worse. And I
looked at his rash and sat there and said, well,
you know, the whole family had gotten koksaki and he
just it actually stayed with him, and so you know,
all we did was we went after the koksaki and
got him turned around. Wow, he could tell immediately that

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he was doing better. But it's something that we see
on a regular basis, and there are other infections that
can hit it that can actually kick off different types
of problems. So looking at those types of things that
strip can sit there and cause valve problems and kidney
problems that could actually lead to all But you know,
it's just have to look at that. Getting into that

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could be a whole three hour lecture in itself.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Well, I know in this series, part two, we're going
to talk about the important diagnostics. Yeah, so we've talked
about infections, inflammation. What role do minerals play in cardiovascular health?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Well, minerals of course, one of the things is that
you've got the calcium blocks, you know, so they know
that minerals are extremely important for the heart and making
sure that you have the minerals. You know, many of
times we can get a lot of the arrhythmias out
of the system just by getting the body's tissue minerals

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up to par because the minerals are involved in the conduction.
So you have to look at all the different minerals
and knowing how that they all work together to get
it back up to par. Like, one of the things
that is very important for me is keeping up on
my magnesium. You know. And as you're talking about men

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and women, which is an interesting thing. When men get stressed,
they eat up magnesium. And so you know these guys
that are high executives and they're out on the golf
course and they fall over dead from a heart attack,
it's usually because their magnesium is dropped. Matter of fact,
I had a patient come in because his wife's sending

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men because there are been two people in his corporation
that had died out on the golf course, and she
was worried about him. She knew that he was under
extreme stress. The company was going out of business, and
she says, there, I said, I want, you know, I
want to check. So we did the blood work, sent
it off. The lab called me and said get a

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hold of him now. So we called him. He was
in his car and he was traveling and I said,
stop at a health food store and buy magnesium. He said,
what's kind, I said, all of them and started taking it,
and it really prevented him from having a major heart attack.

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But stress will take a man's magnesium down. Women, it's potassium.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, so we don't want all those men out there
going and going to health food staring it. You did
the blood work first, yes, yes, but it's something, yes,
it's something to keep really in mind.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
You really can't get too much magnesium. You basically get
diarrhea if you get too much, so it's one of
those safer things. However, potassium is the big thing for women,
and you can get too much potassium, which can be
a problem. But women eat up potassium when they get stressed,
and so their potassium drops and they start to get

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some arrhythmias and even have like panic attacks with that.
So then we get their potassium up and all of
a sudden they're feeling much much better. But you can
get too much potassium, which can also cause heart problems,
so that one you have to really regulate and really
check and make sure that you've got enough in there
but not too much. So you know, that's just a

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very interesting type of thing and shows up how important
the minerals are to the heart, and you can actually
get high quality minerals, but then also getting them to
the heart is also the big thing. So you have
to deliver it to the heart. And the correct type
of the mineral is actually very important to actually get

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the changes in the heart. And there's like six different
kinds of magnesium that we carry, right, and you have
to get the right one in the right combination to
actually get that change.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
So and we're able to test that.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
We're able to test that and actually see yes.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
All right, when we come back, let's talk about the
role of the nervous system plays in cardiovascular disease. We'll
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Speaker 2 (39:39):
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concentrating on cardiovascular disease. It reflects our whole model. What
our basis is holistic integration. So holistic integration has the
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Speaker 1 (40:26):
What has research shown about the common treatments for cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
The National Institute of Health did a very very thorough
study over that to find out how effective and how
much of a change it makes to have the stens
and the surgery is actually done, and their conclusion was
not so much. I was actually very surprised about that.
The only difference that it makes is if it's an emergency,
if you're having a heart attack, I would prefer you

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to go to the emergency room, not to my office,
because they actually do a much better job. However, if
you're talking about long term health of the heart, structure
care does the best. Really the surgeries at this point
one of the biggest money makers for hospitals, so there's
a lot of pushback from it. But the research that
the National Institute of Health actually did was pretty clear cut.

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The results on that were zero.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
So what diagnostics do you do for cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Of course, we do all the standard types of tests
and we have a cardiologist who interprets them for us.
All the different types of things that you could possibly do.
The gold standard is the echo, So we do all
the standards, but we then also do quite a few
different types of things that most cardiologists don't do. Paranalysis
because the minerals play such a big role. We're much

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more thorough on looking at all the different types of
blood tests that could be done. We also do a
neutral valve breakdown on the deficiencies in the body and
actually know what's going on because truthfully, eighty percent of
the problems with the heart are really nutritionally based deficiencies
that leads to the heart having the problem is that

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they're experiencing. There's a lot of things that we do
within office that are not usually done, so we can
actually provide a picture of what's going on with the
health of the heart in a very detailed type of way.
We've had several people say that they got a much
more thorough picture on what was going on with their
heart than even going to the top cardiology hospitals. What

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is ECP therapy ECP stands for external counterpulsation therapy. ECP
is an aerobic exercise machine. Well, why do you need
an aerobic exercise machine? It is the number one treatment
for cardiovascular disease. What was actually done was developing machine
that actually simulates the effects on the body of aerobic exercise,

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and that's where ECP comes in. What occurs with ECP
is that there's actually a second heart kind of put
into the body. It's on the outside, but as the
heart goes into relaxation, that's when it gets its blood.
What we do is we actually have blood pressure cuffs
around the legs. It presses on the legs and we

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get a huge amount of blood that goes back up
to the heart. And the heart is very regenerative and
you get about ten times as much as oxygen with
this particular type of treatment than what you normally would.
You get a regeneration of the heart, you also get
a cleaning out of the arteries, and you actually get
a huge amount of changes in the whole physiology of
the bodies. Right. Therefore, while every cardiologist in the United

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States had one, you get the same effects as doing
aerobic exercise. A matter of fact, all the benefits except
weight loss for the cardiovascular system with this machine, and
the machine actually does it for you. You get the benefit
of five years of marathon training in seven weeks doing ECP.

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So it's pretty dramatic.

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We're talking about Cardiovascum's disease, the number one killer in America,
and this is part one of a four part series.
We're talking about the problem right now. So doctor Praither,

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before we went to break, let's talk about the nervous system, sure,
and how it affects cardiovascular.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
The nervous system controls everything. So one of the big things,
of course is the electrical conduction of the heart. So
it needs to beat in a very normal type of way,
and if the nervous system isn't working correctly, then the
heart's not going to beat properly. Also, the nervous system
has a big effect on hypertension, so you're looking at

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several things with the nervous system, the tone of the arteries,
the normal beat of the heart, with the tension of
the arteries, how much the blood pressure is going on,
so that type of thing can make a big difference.
In a matter of fact, they did a study on
the atlas which affects the vegus nerve.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
The atlas, which is the.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Vertebrae holds up the head, and the adjustments on that
had a bigger effect on hypertension than actually blood pressure medicine.
So you know, looking at the nervous system is a
very important aspect. So chiropractic is an extremely important part

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of the cardiovascular system. You have to get the nervous
system working properly. So one of the things we do
is we check out and can do diagnostics on the
vegus nerve and on the parasympathetic sympathy balance. Get those
balanced out and it makes a big difference. So that's
a definite plug on why chiropractic needs to be a

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part of any type of cardiovascular evaluation.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Right, So, what is the biggest defect in our cardiovascular system.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Well, the biggest defect is that it's dependent upon doing
aerobic exercise. So when the heart beats, that's when all
the blood goes to the organs of the body and
everything gets the oxygen and nutrients that it needs to survive.
The heart, which is constantly working, gets its blood supply

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when it goes into rest, but it has a defect.
It really doesn't get enough nutrients, it doesn't get the oxygen,
it doesn't get the blood flow that it really needs
to survive. So if it's just depend upon going into rest,
the heart's eventually going to die because it's nutrient and
oxygen deprived. The only way that it can get the

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normal amount is by doing aerobic exercise. So if you're
sedentary and you're not doing aerobic exercise on a regular basis,
your heart becomes oxygen and nutrient deprived and it starts
to fail. As a matter of fact, most people are
along those lines. So it's kind of an interesting type

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of thing. If you look at the British Journal of
Medicine and they list all the cardiovascular diseases and they
have what actually works. And I actually trust the British
Journal of Medicine, that's one because it's not owned by
a pharmaceutical company and they don't allow any type of
interference with it. And it's the only one that I

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know of that's like that, and they put down if
you look at every single cardiovascular disease, aerobic exercise is
listed as a cure. So aerobic exercise cures all cardiovascular diseases.
So I have a person who comes into my office

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and they can barely walk upstairs, and I sit there
and say, okay, now you need to do your aerobic exercise.
I want you run five miles a day, four minutes
or less per mile.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
You're kidding, right.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
That the aerobic exercise is something that is very well
known to be a panacea for cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, and we're going to talk about this in one
of our other episodes about the treatment that we will
have for that.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
That's wonderful, but it's amazing how the heart can regenerate. Now,
interestingly enough, you can actually over exercise, which is again
it's a balanced type of thing, but it's something that
people need to be aware of. On how important aerobic exercises.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
So, how much aerobic exercise do people need?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Well, what they find is it's basically about five days
a week, about an hour a day, and that's where
you get the most benefit. Going longer really doesn't do
anything else for the body.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Might just take care of some calories though.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Well, yeah, aerobic exercise is one of the best ways
to lose weight.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
So what happens to the heart if it doesn't get
enough aerobic exercise.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
It ages quicker. The heart is constantly beating right what
it needs a lot of oxygen, it needs a lot
of nutrients. And so one of the biggest things is
we're trying to regenerate the heart. And we've had hearts
that were twice the size of what they should be
confirmed and once we can get the nutrients in there,

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the heart goes back to normal. The heart can actually
regenerate in an amazing type of way. I mean, we
have people who have had heart attacks and parts of
their heart have died, and as we've worked with them
that's actually regenerated.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
We are fearfully and wonderfully.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, it's amazing. As matter of fact, I did not
expect to see the things that I've seen as far
as on changes. Yeah, but you have to get the
you know, it's two things. You got to get the oxygen,
you've got to get the blood up and through there,
and you've got to get the proper nutrients and therefore
it to be able to heal. And so it's a
very nutrient intensive type of a process to get that

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back up to part and so you know, people it's
a whole new paradigm and when they take it, it's like, really,
I need to take all those and it's like, yeah,
you know, if you want to get your because you're
not going to do it through your.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Normal diet, right right, Okay, let's talk about the role
the kidney's playing cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Well, it's interesting, you know, just the connection between the
kidneys and the heart. So you've got two kidneys, and
you know, the heart beats let's say it's seventy two
beats minute. The kidneys are going to beat at thirty
six beats per minute because you've got two of them.
So the kidneys beat just right, you know, in sync
with the heart. And so there's a very strong connection

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between the kidneys and the heart. One of the big
things that the kidneys is the main thing that's involved.
Kidneys and adrenals are the main things that really affect
blood pressure, and of course hypertension is one of the
big indicators of cardiovascular disease. So if your kidneys are
not also addressed, the hyghpertension will stay up there, which

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will cause problems. You know, for the cardiovascular system, so
you also need to look at the kidneys. One of
the things is you have the cre attendant levels bloodgury
and nitrogen comes up with what's called grimorial filtration, right,
So the higher that you can keep that, the healthier
you're going to be. In Actually, your kidney health is

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also one of the biggest indicators on how long you live.
So you really want to if you're dealing with cardiovascular disease,
you need to also be working with the kidneys and
keep those up along with the whole cardiovascular system because
if you don't, you're not going to get the same results.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Yeah. And the word that keeps coming up, and this
is what we call ourselves holistic, holistic integration and how
everything works together. And we have one minute left enterprey there.
But any other organ systems.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah, I mean the liver, all the different types of systems.
The gut has a big effect. So again you have
to look at the whole body holistically to really get
the changes that you need to get everything balanced out.
Because of course the liver, I mean you know that's
involved with the cholesterol, making the cholesterol, it also filters everything.
So the liver is a problem, you need to get

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that fixed too. Just like you're working at the nervous system,
the undercoon system has a big effect on the cardiovascular
So each thing is important and you have to get
the whole to get the changes that you need.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Matt Holistically, thank you, Doctor Prayther, Thank you, Lisa. Holistic
Integration is located at eighty nine oh two North Meridian
Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just south of
the I four sixty five loop. If we can help

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Connect with our office at three one seven eight four
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