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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Prather and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Braither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Today, we're talking about to supplement or not
to supplement? That is the question. How did that sound.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
A little Shakespearean?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Uh huh. That's from what Shakespeare played Hamlet, Hamlet to
be or not to be? So to supplement or not
to supplement? This is part two the two part series.
We had a lot to cover, so let's talk about supplementation.
What percentage of Americans use supplementation?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Sixty eight percent of Americans use supplementation on a regular basis,
which is pretty high number.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yes, eighty four percent of.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
All Americans feel that supplements are safe, have high quality,
and are effective. So it's something that is well received
and well understood type of thing to do and a
very common type of thing that everybody does.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And what are some of the reasons that people use supplements.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Fifty one percent use it for overall health. So of
the people who are using it, that fifty one percent said, yeah,
it's just to make me healthy. Thirty percent say that
they're trying to fill a nutrient gap. Twenty nine percent
said that they're using it to get more energy, twenty
seven percent are looking at it for immune health, and
(01:42):
twenty five percent are for bone health. For osteoporosis, supplementation
is a big thing because most people become osteoproduct because
of lack of nutrients, and then twenty five percent use
it for heart health.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Interesting, eighty five.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Percent of the people that the doctor know that they
are using supplements, and sixty nine percent of all medical
doctors have talked about taking supplements as something that they
should probably do. And seventy eight percent of Americans think
it's a smart choice to take supplements. So if you're
taking supplements, you're in the definite majority.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You're smart.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You're smart.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So last week you talked about the different categories. I
just want to review that because that I found very
helpful that there's different categories of supplementation. If there are
four different categories, so you have your vitamins and minerals, yes,
and that would include what.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Vitamins and minerals. Multi vitamins, Vitamin D, vitamin C, calcium
B six are the most common ones that people take.
So just hitting all the different ones, and those are
kind of the most common ones taken.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Too, right, So you have the vitamin and minerals is
one category.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Than the specialty specialties are the omega threes, which is
a very important thing. Most people are taking omega three's
for their heart health, fiber melatonin for sleep, glucosamine condroidan
for their joints, and digestive enzymes are the most common
specialty type of supplements out.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
There, okay. And what's the third category?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Herbal and botanical. So the most common one on that is.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Green tree green tea, not green tree green tea, Cranberry
cranberry for urinary tract problems, Garlic, ginseng, echinaesia, genco, bilboa, tumeric,
and milk thistle are some of the more common types
in our yard.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yes we do, yeah, purple corn flour.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Can we just eat the flour?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah? Well, there's different parts of it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
All right. And the fourth category is.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Sports and weight management, So that's a big gen C
type of thing, taking the protein, drinks, energy drinks and gels, hydration, garcinia,
gembojia which is actually excellent for weight loss, green coffee,
amino acids and created.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
In they're some of the most I think of our
sun and that can process protein. Protein.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Oh yeah, trying to build those.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Protein big old bottles.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So those are the four categories, and most supplements are
divided up into one of those four categories.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, so supplementation is a big part of our practice,
it is, And why is that? Why is it such
a big part of our practice.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, what we're trying to do is to balance out
the body functionally, so you know, you need to use
products to bring that back into harmony.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
And one of.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
The things is that always you know, we had talked
about that last time, is that people say, well, why
can't I do that with food? And so I list
out what it takes to do that with your food,
and they say, okay, I think I'll take the pills.
And most of the pills that we use are concentrated foods.
So it's a matter of convenience, something that is controllable.
(05:01):
You know, I can sit there and say take six
of these and I know what the effect will be,
whereas if you're doing food, there's too many variables that
go into that.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
But I like to let people.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Know that this is foods that they really should have
been eating oftentimes, you know, we can give them in
herbal forms, which if you were trying to eat the
herbs it would be unpalatable. There's a reason that we
don't put all of those into our food groups. So
it's something that is convenient, right, So the supplementations is
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a convenient way to get the nutrients and the balance
that you need in your body.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And they're concentrated, yeah, concentrated.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yes, you get more bang for the buck, as you
would like to say.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You're probably saving money and definitely saving time.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It is actually cheaper than doing the food. Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So let's talk about who's most likely to show dietary deficiencies.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The most common group that you look at is older people.
Things start to fall apart, and as they are looking
at nutritional deficiencies, the older population is one of the
more common things that is showing up positive along those lines.
Matter of fact, many of the symptoms of aging are
really nutrient deficiencies. As we get older, it's just like
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an older car. It needs a lot more maintenance to
keep on running. And as we get older, we need
a lot more maintenance. And so getting those nutrients into
the system. Speak about yourself, so you know, that's a
big area. Pregnant women, when you're making a baby, there's
a huge nutritional need. Children as they're growing, there's a
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greater nutritional need and oftentimes they don't eat correctly anything.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's why it's so important to bring children in here.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It is because it can make a big difference. You
see what's going on. You need to look at them.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I think we think children are resilient and they just
they're going to grow, of course, but there could be deficiencies,
especially this day and age.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Certainly athletes.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Athletes are a very big part of needing nutritional good
athlete knows that they need extra nutrition because of the
demands on their body, and anyone who's going through any
type of illnesses there's a greater demand for nutrients at
that point.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So why are we more deficient as we grow older?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
The processes that we have to help to make us healthy,
you know, the oxidation. One of the things is there's
a whole chemical process. It's like all these gears go together,
and as we get older, our gears don't seem to.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Work as well.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Need some oiling.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They definitely need some oiling. They need a little bit
of extra TLC vitamin D. We have had patients come
in moms starting to get some dementia, and we look
at their vitamin D. I can think of one patient
that came in and their vitamin D level was at nine.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
The person's not functioning Okay, So we threw.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
In vitamin D, got their vitamin D up to a
normal level, and all of a sudden, Mom, grandma is
all of a sudden functioning fine. So you know, looking
at those things.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
That and we talked about the importance of making sure
that you get your vitamin D levels checked through sure
blood work, Sure no guests work in vitamin D.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
We've also had people who were told when it was
real popular that everybody should have vitamin D, which everybody
should have their vitamin D checked in up to park,
but doctors were just handing it out without having blood tests,
and people were coming in quite a bit with toxic levels,
and then all of a sudden, vitamin D had a
bad reputation, which is you know, it was a right way.
(08:53):
It's just like, no vitamin D is really important. All
the things that start to occur are rather devastating if
you're low, but if you are too high you become
toxic and you can get sick from that too.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's all about homeostatsys.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's all about balance in homeostasis. So as we get older,
different types of nutrient deficiencies start to show up, and
as they do, we start to have failings in different areas.
You know, you don't have deficiencies and pharmaceuticals in your diet.
Pharmaceuticals are for symptoms. Nutrients are to heal you.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Makes sense, yes, it makes sense. Why do illnesses cause
a greater need for supplementation.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
The body is under a tremendous more stress. If you're
looking at people who are going through cancer therapy, there
probably isn't any nutrient that they are not deficient in,
and it's very important for your survivability that you maintain
your proper nutrition during that time. The things that they found,
and they haven't really done as much research as they should,
(10:04):
but if you are anemic through an iron deficiency or
B twelve full of acid, any of those types of
nutrient deficiencies that produce anemia, you have a fifty percent
less survival rate as someone who's not anemic.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And that's just one example.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
If the liver becomes toxic and overburden, which usually happens
during cancer treatments or cancer itself. Then it really cuts
down on your survivability. So there is a tremendous amount
of nutritional needs through any type of illness, if you
have infections, if you have a weakened immune system, any
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type of autoimmune disease, anything along those lines. And then
you're also talking about taking pharmaceuticals during illnesses, and they
cause nutritional deficiencies to a tremendous amount. One of the
things that occur with statins. You know, if you have
high cholesterol, then you actually become extremely deficient in COQ ten.
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If you become deficient in COQ ten, that's what keeps
the heart together, keeps it working. So you take something
that actually causes heart problems that you're trying to help.
So it's a matter of understanding and how these things
sites work and then working together with them.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Mm hmm. Interesting. When we come back more onto supplement
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We're talking today about to supplement or not to supplement,
that is the question, and debt when we're talking about
how important during illnesses to supplement I know we have
(15:13):
cancer pations that come in and actually on cologists that
refer them INN while they're on chemotherapy to boost their
immune system.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yes, the success rate on cancer treatments increase quite dramatically
if you can maintain the health of the individual during
that time, which just makes sense, right. The American Cancer
Society says that sixty percent of all cancers are caused
by nutritional deficiencies.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Sixty percent of all cancers are.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Caused, wow, by nutritional deficiencies. So you know, how much
more does you know if you're being treated for cancer
that you should be taking supplementations. The reason, probably the
greatest majority of reasons that people are in that situation
is because of nutritional deficiencies.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That could have started a long time ago. Absolutely, That's
why I go back to so important to get children checked.
I get so excited to see in our waiting room
families come in, you know, to be treated children, a
newborn baby. A lot of times, you know, when mom
has the baby there, they're bringing that baby in. That's
the time to start, that is, but it's never too late,
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right right. Why is pregnancy an important time for supplementation.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, you're trying to one take care of two.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
People, right, I've done that three times.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, there are a lot of different types of problems
that start to occur. I had one pregnant woman who
came in and she had developed the shakes and she
didn't know why. So we did a blood test on
her and her cerem levels of magnesium were extremely low,
so we supplemented with the magnesium, and all of a sudden,
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she was fine. The body gives the priority to the
baby and it will leach whatever it needs to do from
mom to make sure that the baby is normal.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So if you're.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Looking out for yourself, one of the whole reasons that
oftentimes there's postpartum depression is because there was nutritional deficiencies
during pregnancy. Oh interesting, right, when you also get it
to a clamshet the hypertension during pregnancy. What occurs along
those lines is that the body is needing different types
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of proteins, different types of materials, and it starts to
actually break down the mom's kidneys to feed the baby.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So implementation is very impartial.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Supplementation will prevent that type of thing. So you know,
looking at that, you know one, making sure that you
have an excellent diet, but even then usually the diet
isn't up to par. Checking on iodine levels. Iodying is
one of the important markers on how intelligent.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Your child will be.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
If you are iodine deficient while you are pregnant and
you don't get that checked, then you could be causing
problems for your child. Many things start out in the womb,
and if you can take care of yourself and take
care of the baby during that time, that's an important
type of a process.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, you just made me think it's just so sad.
Babies are coming out addicted.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh yeah, you know, and people who have addiction issues
with drugs and things like that, they're all extremely nutrient
and deficient. One of the things that we always have
to do whenever we have an addict in our you know,
that we're taking care of for treatment is get their
nutrition right. And as soon as we can get that,
then everything goes so much better. Their detox they're getting
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off the brain, the brain starts to work again. When
you're taking pharmaceuticals, as I had said before, whether they're
legal or illegal, you need more nutrients to counteract that.
Because all pharmaceuticals deplete proper nutrition.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Interesting. So we've talked about the importance for supplementation for
the elderly for any illness, pregnancy, Why do athletes require
more supplementation.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
There's a greater demand on the body. One of the
things that we had coming in as a young gal
who her performance and long distance running had gotten rather
poor and concentration wasn't there, and they were thinking about
putting her on a adderall conservative type product to help
her with her grades. I said, well, let's do a
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blood test on her, and she showed up a ferrytine
level at five, which is you qualify for a blood
transfusion at that point. Wow, So that's the iron stores. Yeah,
the young gal and I said, you know, just to
let you know, eighty percent of all females who are
in athletics are iron deficient, you know. Mom said, wow,
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you know that's amazing. And we got her iron levels
back up and they went back to their cross country
team told them about that, and they said, well, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We should get all of our girls checked.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
So they got all their girls checked and every single
one of them there wasn't one that didn't show up
that they were iron deficient, severely iron deficient.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
And they got them on an iron supplementation got them up.
Forty of them were on at all or concerted. They
all went off. They didn't need anymore because they could
now concentrate, and for the first time ever, they qualified
for state. They made it a regular program, and then
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the next year they won state in cross country and
they had never even qualified for WOW. So you know,
it just shows up just sort of the needs that
are there. But there are many nutritional needs. One of
the things that I did is I had a gentleman
who came in and said, I'm just really really healthy.
I just want to get checked and confirmed how great
and wonderful one I am. And I said why. He said, well,
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I'm a triathlete and that makes me healthy. I said,
oh no, no, no, no, that's not how that works.
If you're a triathlete, usually that's a huge stress on
the body and you're very unhealthy and you usually need
supplementation along those lines. And he didn't register that. You know,
Oh no, I work out all the time, so I'm healthy.
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And I reiterated, no, that's not true. You know, as
an athlete you need more help than the average person.
So we did the blood test that his was a
complete disaster, and I says, you know, you're a walking
time bomb. This is what we need to do. You
need to hold up a little bit until I can
get you back up to part. Anyway, he thought I
didn't know what I was talking about, because he knew
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that working out all the time was a healthy thing
to do, and that he was making up.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know, I think you were touching on his ego there.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Well it was you know, it's like, no, we can
help you, but this is not going to work. And
then six months later he had a massive stroke, paralyzed
on half of his body. Called up wanted to know
what could be done at that point because he said,
you were right, and so we started working with him
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at that point. But you know, if you are doing athletics,
your kids are doing athletics, you need more help now.
Mild exercise things like that really helps out a tremendous
amount for your health and well being.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I'm all for that.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
When you actually get into athletics and a higher level
of fitness and trying to work, your nutritional needs increase
and you need more help along those lines than actually
the average person.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It makes sense, makes sense, you know, I do think
there's that mentality. I'm a triathlete, I'm a marathon runner.
You know, I'm healthy. But those people, it's very important.
Supplementation is very important.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, marathon runners have a much lower average LICEEAN than
the average population, much less.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Hard on the body.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's hard on the body.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, So who needs supplements in their diet?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's what people ask me in pretty much everybody, you
know that. That's what it comes down.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
To, is soils depleted.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, are soils depleted? You know, you're just not getting
the nutrients that we used to. And then even then
most people need so if you're going for optimal health,
really everybody should be thinking about how they can supplement
their diet. There's a lot of different ways to do that.
Herbs are one of the great ways. But you want
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to add in those nutrients into your system and get
your body up to park and then be doing checks
to make sure that things are going right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Okay, when we come back, we're going to talk about
how we know what supplements are the best for us.
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The Voice of Health Minute with doctor Robert Prather of
Holistic Integration. How many hours of class time did you
have an interpreting blood work?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
If you're going through medical school, you get fifteen hours
of interpretation of blood work.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I have six hundred and fifty hours class time that
I took, and then of course I've taken many classes.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Since I remember as your wife, you're going through that
with her three little ones. You go fly up to Minnesota,
Minneapolis once a month.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Sit down and we would take two years. We take
lectures and then take tests on the blood work to
make sure that we understood it. That type of thing
is really what you need to do. And you know,
my nurse practitioners and MDIs do come to me just
to say what do I do with this blood test?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
How do I interpret? How's it? Yeah? Because that's training, right,
that's not their area of expertise.
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How do you determine what are the best supplements for
that patient?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
We do lab tests, you know, it's a matter of
not guessing, but doing tests to know what we're working on.
And then the other thing that we do is we
retest and make sure that it's working. So if you
don't test, you don't know, right, and knowing is the
best way to determine on what to give someone.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
No guesswork, yes, right, you know. And I was thinking
about that Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin. It's
not like a vitamin C where.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Where you just if you get too much, you just
pee it out.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Right right, So so important to get lab tests. Well,
let's talk about what types of lab test you do
here best show the need for supplementation.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Well, first thing is that we do a basic normal panels,
get a good understanding of where the body is. Oftentimes
I see a lot of functional doctors who aren't as
familiar with working with us, don't have the years on
that don't do the basics. They do all these fancy tests,
but finding out first. I want to know how your
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kidneys are working. I want to know how your liver
is working. I want to know how your pancras is working.
Just the basic ENDERC system, making sure that that's all
working well. So that's the basis of what is going on.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, it's our blood chemistry in our body.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Blood chemistry. Understanding the physiology. Is the physiology working correctly?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
And what a smart way to start. Now, I know
you've had over six hundred hours of reading blood tests,
of studying blood test so important.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yes, people came in and said, oh I've had blood work.
My doctor says, everything's great. Yeah, I said, if you
don't mind, I would like to look at that, and
they said, sure, you know, and they hand it to
me and I go through, and then I start going
through all the problems that are showing up on their
blood tests, and they go, well, why didn't my doctor
talk to me about that, because it says right there
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on the lab test that this is abnormal. Yeah, And
as I explained to them, their doctor is looking for
is disease oriented. So if it's not in what they
would consider a severe disease state, it's okay because as
a disease doctor, there's nothing you can do about abnormals anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
So you know, why talk about it?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And whereas we are a structure function office and we
are looking to bring the body back into homeostasis, and
oftentimes there are some severe problems going on. It's just
like I had one Galhu came in and said, you know,
I've been going to my doctor for thirty years and
you know, I'm doing fine. You know, there's some problems
that are you know, as I'm doing the exam, there's
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some definite problems. I think you got problems with your
kidneys And she said, you know, well, nothing's ever been mentioned,
and she brought in several years of blood test and
I was showing her how her kidneys were failing.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Through the years.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Through the years, no one, no one saw that where
you were.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know, now at this point, you know the next
step would be dialysis. You know, she hadn't gotten there.
And she asked her a medical doctor about that, and
he said, well, you know, you weren't in where we
would need dialysis. Yes, you have kidney disease and you've
been developing it for a while, but there's nothing you
can do about that anyway until you get into a
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severe state.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And that's the disease care model.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
That's the disease care model. And where I started in
on her program. Gave her the supplements that rebuild the
kidneys and they went back up to you know where
they should be. And she had gone on hypertensive medicine
because of the kidney failure. She was starting to get
swelling in the legs. There was damage that was occurring
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to her heart because of it. And that is the
disease care model, where we can sit there, take that
and go through that and raise that back up. So
you know, it's a matter of do you want to
wait until you're on dialysis before you start treating something.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Let me think about it, and didn't even know that
was a problem.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah. Wow, So the lab tests very important, and I
know we add the iodine in vitamin deed to our
pre through profile sure and check that on everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Those are extremely important nutrients. And then we can then
take it much further. We can get into hair analysis,
where we're working at tissue minerals, which is another way
of evaluating the body. We look at the bowel health,
what's going on with that very important part of the system.
Then we can get into all sorts of other different
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types of urine tests. Get very specific within the blood tests.
I mean they're literally over thirty thousand different blood tests
that we can do. As we are taking it down.
Let's say that we see that you have a particular
thyroid problems that's starting to show up. Well, there's forty
five different blood tests you can do for the thyroid,
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you know, to kind of narrow that down.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
But our panel covers a lot and you start there
and from that correct.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Right, the panel covers everything in your system, so it
gives us an idea on where to go. You know,
we sit there. Look, well, that area is working quite well.
You know, we don't really need to look at that
any further. But then we delve in deeper into other
areas so that we can find out what's going on
with the system and how to work with it.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Right, you know, and you think about these tests all
very affordable and expensive stead of these fancy dancy tests.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And you know you're not you're you're drawing blood, but
none of the drawing blood is not a dangerous.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
You don't enjoy it, but you always survive. You know,
there's there's no problems your life.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Blood.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Well, I always like to talk about the warrior response.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Response.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh, I've talked about that before.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
There is in a percentage of males what they call
the warrior response because if you would have like your
hand cut off, there is a drop in blood pressure
that the body would have to keep you from bleeding
to death. And so the body does that when you
start to lose a lot of blood, and so the
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body so you can keep on fighting and not you know,
die from the blood loss. So they call that, and
it's only in males, and it's in a certain percentage.
And they said that the advantage on that was a warrior.
If they're fighting and they start to lose massive amounts
of blood, the body goes into a lower blood pressure
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so you don't bleed out and you can keep fighting
and finish the battle.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
So what does that have to do with getting your blood?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Because I.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Because I'm a warrior, and the reason I pass out
when some little gal takes my blood is because I'm
a warrior.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Okay, not that I'm a worsk I'll remember that.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
So let's talk about Can a pre check be done
to see how a supplement will react before you take it?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yes, that's one of the other things is that we
do a govanic skin resistance test. With that we can
find out how the body is going to respond to
the product before you take it. Because you know that
we have a lot of different forms of viodine. We
know that somebody might need it, might need a vitamin indeed,
but there's a lot of different forms, so we pretest
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them just to see how the body responds before they
actually take it, because even though you might show up
that you need it, you may not respond well to
one form as opposed to another.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Right, I mean, like for vitamin C, vitamin D, we
have a lot of different options.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
A lot of different options, and we want to know
where we're going to get them again the most bang
for the buck. So test test tests. How do we
find out what's going to work the best for the person.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And how often should follow up labs be done?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Well, it depends on the individual.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I mean some labs we do within ten days to
make sure that we're getting a good response. But you
should at least get labs, a full panel of labs
at least once a year. And that's everyone everyone. There
is no real exceptions. Really, you should never go longer
than a year for a good basic lab testing to
see how the health of the body is doing.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Makes sense. So how often should a person be checked
for supplementation?
Speaker 3 (36:57):
People should be checked on supplementation minimum of a program
of about three months. So we do have people that
we have come in on an every three month basis
just to make sure they're taking the right supplementation if
they're on a program. Some people are checked much much
more often, but usually on average we check like once
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a month.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Okay, well, doctor Prather, we have a minute before we
go into four segment, but I want to make sure
you have time to say and what you would like
to on this topic.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And again, what we are is we are a structure
function office. We're looking at home use staces and the
homeostasis is the definition of health and the best way,
one of the most important ways that you can get
healthy is through supplementation. So highly encourage everyone to be
involved in that.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, it's so important, and I want to reierate, you know,
getting the lab test. In fact, I got a blood
panel this week just to see where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, it's very difficult just to be able to walk
into a health food store and say, how about this one.
If you don't do the lab test, you don't know.
And if you don't know, you really shouldn't supplement.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Okay, interesting, when we come back more onto supplement or
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Holistic Integration.
Speaker 8 (38:51):
Well.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Welcome, Carol, and thank you for wanting to share your story.
Let's start with how did you hear about Holistic Integration? Well?
Speaker 8 (38:59):
I always asked courting a elderly lady to a doctor's
appointment in the building where Holistic Integration is, I saw
a lady coming out, and I kept wondering what did
they do when they're so I said to the lady,
excuse me, but do you mind me asking you what
goes on in there? She said, Oh, she said, I
had a terrible back and I have come out of
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there with a fabulous feeling back now. And I thought
was a person that's had back trouble for many years.
This is the place I need to be. So three
and a half years later, I'm still here.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Do you remember your first appointment? Do you want to
talk about that a little bit?
Speaker 8 (39:38):
My first appointment was with doctor Prather. Doctor Prather is
probably one of the best in the country, and I
have a lot of arthritis in my back. I have
a lot of herniated disc and I just get so
much relief from Doctor Prather. And now I see doctor
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Dodge and he is another fantastic chiropractor And so from
there I moved on to every other department in here.
X ray department is phenomenal. I have taken those X
rays to orthopedic doctors and they have said those X
rays are the best X rays they've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Oh wow, Yeah, I can thank Jim for that.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
And the front staff, I can't say enough wonderful things
about the girls. They're so professional, they're so kind and compassionate.
And I've been in the hair analysis department, I've been
in dry needling, I've been in therapy, and for the
most part I'm in the chiropractic end of it. But
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say enough fabulous things about holistic integration.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Well, I know one of our front deskcals calls you
her Indianapolis Grandma, and you always bring them yummies.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
And oh, I love those girls in the front desk.
They are wonderful And all of the girls are wonderful.
Megan who does a lot of the dry kneedling now,
and the therapy staff I just love everybody here. I
actually can't wait to come here every week because I
get such a warm and fuzzy feeling out of it
when I come here.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Well, and you give a warm and fuzzy feeling too,
thank you. So, Carol, how has Holistic Integration helped you?
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Well, I don't have near as much pain for my arthritis,
and I have a sacrum that doesn't stay in place,
so I feel much better when I go out because
the sacrum has been put back in place, so that
is a.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Blessing to me.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
And so and they work on my neck, which is
not great either, and works on my feet because they're
out of alignment, and it's just not anything that they
haven't helped.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
So, Carol, it sounds like you've been treated on the
structural side, and we do here at Holistic Integration Structure
Function Healthcare. Have you done anything on the functional side
that's been helpful.
Speaker 8 (42:04):
Well, I have food allergies and I have a lot
of digestive issues. I've had them for quite some time,
so I chose to get the hair analysis. It was phenomenal.
I learned things from that hair analysis, and you're a
nutrition lady that I did not know from other mds
and gastro people. And I've had that hair analysis done
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twice and I'm thinking about doing it again. But it
was one of the most eye opening experiences I had.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Yeah, and I like when we do diagnostics, we're going
over it with you. You see the results and then
the supplementation.
Speaker 8 (42:44):
We made some changes things that I didn't know I
was allergic to how that I was. And I would
recommend that hair analysis to anyone.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
So there might be someone listening that's had some of
the health challenges that you have had, Carol, how would
you incur courage them?
Speaker 8 (43:01):
I would highly encourage them to come to Holistic Integration.
I have told many of my friends about it. I'm
in sales. I pass it along to some of my
customers that have back problems and digestive issues, and I've
sent quite a few people here. I think it's a
phenomenal place to.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
Come well and we enjoy every time you step foot
in our well.
Speaker 8 (43:25):
You bring so much joy to me when I come
in here.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Schedule your appointment at Holistic Integration three one seven eight
four eight eighty forty eight. That's three one seven, eight
four eight eighty forty eight or learn more on our
website at the Voice of Health radio dot com. Really
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you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor Robert
Praether of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring hope
to our patients to supplement or not to supplement. So
what are the three biggest dietary deficiencies?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Well, I kind of divided them up into three different sections.
One is vitamin deficiency, which is fully acid, the mineral
is zinc, and then macro nutrients is fiber and that
is one that isn't really talked about very much, but
not everybody is really thinking about fiber is the biggest
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macronutrient deficiency. That's kind of the surprise, but very very true.
So those are the three biggest nutritional deficiencies that we
find most commonly.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Throughout the world.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
How common are these deficiencies with your patients?
Speaker 3 (44:44):
It is easily really plans out well within our office
that those are the three biggest nutritional deficiencies that we see.
And we have three nutritionists in our office and they
all completely agree with me that those are the three
most common things that people are deficient in.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Let's talk about fullic acid, the vitamin. What are the
dietary requirements for fullic acid.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, there are two different types of organizations that credential.
You know, you have the RDA, which everybody kind of
goes by. It has about four hundred micrograms is what
it recommends. But we say and more of the natural
is really about two thousand to four thousand micrograms is
really what you should be taking in.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
That's quite a bit more.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
That's really quite a bit more because of the higher
needs that people have, and really you're going to start
to have some issues if you aren't taking in that much.
The average American only takes in about two hundred micrograms.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
And how many do we need.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Well, according to the RDA, it's four hundred micrograms. Were
about half, but that's a minimum that's just to survive.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
And you're saying, really about.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Two thousand of four thousand micrograms of fullic acid is
really what we should be taking in to be healthy.
One of the interesting things about fullic acid is if
you are on birth control, it wipes out the reserves
of fully acid in.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Your system the birth control pills.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Birth control pill, So if you've been on birth control pill,
you're probably already deficient. On your stores of full of acid,
so your requirements of getting your full of acid are
up even higher. And then whenever you're pregnant, you're fullic
acid needs become higher. So going from a birth control
pill to then getting pregnant soon afterwards is something that
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really requires quite a bit of nutrition work to go
along with that because it will cause a lot of problems.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
What are the symptoms with low full of acid.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Of course, the first thing that everybody thinks about is anemia,
so looking at anemia is one of the important things.
Anorexia can occur, apathy, depression, fatigue, all those things to
start to show up. Whatever you're full of acid deficient,
so it even affects the emotional constipation, digestive disturbances. Your
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tongue swells, it becomes growth, impairment, headaches, and fullic acid
deficiency is more common in women than in men. So
we've had many, especially women, get fullic acid and all
of a sudden, their headaches disappeared, insomnia, memory impairment, paranoia,
restless leg syndrome. As a matter of fact, wrestless lag
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syndrome is oftentimes fixed by fullic acid weakness, sensory loss
in the legs and also it's very important for cancer.
So anytime that you have cancer, fullic acid is really
important one to prevent it, and then also is very
important if you have cancer to get enough full of acid.
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And one of the biggest things that really wipes out
fullic acid is chemo, So if you have cancer and
you take chemo, your fullic acid level will drop. But
also low full of acid kicks off cancer, and you
need high amounts of full of acid to be able
to fight cancer. So it's an interesting you see how
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that works. That's why it's so important if you are
doing cancer treatments to also make sure that your nutritional
requirements are good because one of the things that they
find is if you are anemic on most cancers, it
cuts down your survival rate by fifty percent and a
lot of that has to do with the full of
acid levels. So that's a real big factor. And anyone
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who is battling cancer or have been through cancer having
those types of things checked. We always say, hey, we
need to check all your nutrients. One of the biggest
ones that we almost always find is full of acid deficiency. Oftentimes,
when we can get the supplementation in there, the cancer
treatments all of a sudden start to turn around and
you can see a big difference. So watching that anemia,
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seeing that how that changes take place can be a
real indicator that you are on a loop using battle
and the chemo is going to create more cancer than
it's helping.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Interesting. The next one is the mineral zinc zink. What
percentage of your patients are zinc deficient?
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I would say that we find about fifty percent. Wow, Now,
fully acid is a pretty high number. Very few people
have normal levels of fullic acid. But when you're talking
about zinc, it's not quite as common. But it's a
very common type of thing and causes a huge amount
of health problems.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Are you seeing one in two people?
Speaker 2 (49:30):
One and two people usually are deficient in zinc?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
So what symptoms do you see with zinc deficiency?
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Oh, zinc deficiencies A lot of things associated with that. Osteoporosis.
If you don't have enough zinc, it's very important to
be able to get the calcium and magnesium into the system.
One of our secret weapons on getting people over osteoporosis.
Almost every single person with osteoporosis has a zinc deficiency.
Anemia also is involved with that stunted growth. Zinc is
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one of the more important things to get the maxima
height fertility. We have found that that's probably one of
the biggest keys for infertility is low zinc. Getting the
zinc levels up has really solved quite a few problems.
Instead of going through all the expenses and all the hormones,
get your zinc level checked and oftentimes that can fix it.
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Decrease protein synthesis, which can be pretty stabilitating. Wound healing
goes along with that lack of taste. If someone comes
in and say, you know, I just don't have any
taste in my mouth, that's a lack of zinc. Acne
is a huge part alopecia, losing your hair, amnesia, anorexia.
Matter of fact, if you force zinc deficiency on someone,
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someone will become anorexic. And if you start to get
into anorexia, have to get someone zinc back up before
they can get over anorexia. Interesting, so zinc is very
important along those lines. Apathy, brittle nails, delayed sexual maturity, depression, diarrhea, exema, fatigue,
high cholesterol. We've had a lot of people get their
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cholesterol under control just by increasing their zinc impotence, hypogonadism, infections,
especially viral infections, getting the zinc levels up.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Irritability.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
If your copper goes up, sink goes down, you become
a little bit more irritable. Lethargy, memory impairment, night blindness
because if you're low on zinc, you can't get the
vitamin A to the eyes. Paranoia, and white spots on
the nails. Interesting matter of fact, that a little sign.
They call those little white spots. And I see that
on someone, I said, oh, you're zinc deficient. I can
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even look at their diagnostic.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
The third dietary deficiency is fiber.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
I knew that fiber was a deficiency and something that
was showing up, but I didn't realize how much of
a deficiency until we started to get into gistool kit testing.
There are two different major forms of bacteria in the gut.
One that breaks down food more for a carbohydrates the
normal ones. Then you've got some that should be breaking
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down the fiber, and a normal healthy gut should be
about fifty to fifty. We found no one I have
yet to see the thirty years. In thirty years, the
normal split is ninety nine to one.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Only our patients who've been with us for a while
that we've been working with even hits the eighty twenty split.
It's much greater problem than what is even reported by
the people who say fiber is so important. The one
nutrient that makes the biggest difference in everybody's health is fiber.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
It's hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
When you take in fiber, your fully cacid level goes
up and your zinc level goes up. Oh really, but
it improves the nutrients of every single different vitamin and
mineral is absorbed better if you get fiber into your system.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
So what conditions does low fiber cause.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Well, it's very much involved in cancer. So cancer and
cardiovascular disease are two the biggest things that kick off
because of fiber. The people who've done research on it, conservatively,
if we were taking in the proper amount of fiber
into our diet, we would have sixty five percent reduction
in cancer across the board, Wow, and sixty five percent
reduction in cardiovascular disease. And if we have the proper
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amount of fiber, very few people would be obese. It
also clears up type two diabetes. It is the best
thing for gall bladder disease. As matter of fact, people
who get enough fiber are not going to get gallbladder disease.
If you get enough fiber, it pretty much eliminates kidney stones.
Every study that they've ever done. The one definite way
that you can always change your weight without changing your
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calories is by increasing the amount of fiber that you take.
Fiber will always cause weight loss. So if you want
to live long, have less disease, have less aches and
pains throughout the body, be able to eat and enjoy
food twice as much as what you would have right.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Now and be full sooner.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
You also aren't taking in as many calories from what
you're eating.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Let's go eat some fiber.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Let's go eat some Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Well, thank you, doctor Praither, very informative.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh two North
Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just south
of the I four sixty five loop. If we can
help you to achieve better health, we'd love to hear
from you. Connect with our office at three one seven
eight four eight eighty forty eight. That's three one seven
eight four eight eighty forty eight. Join us again next
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Health radio dot com for the Voice of Health with
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