Ep. 24: Guess Who's Back

On this throwback episode of the W Ritz Podcast, Danny Dimes joins Isaac and Will to interview Will about his experience working on a missions trip.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the w Ritz Podcast.
We know it's been a while and this is kind
of gonna be sort of a throwback episode almost. I
don't know how long it's been, maybe like a year
or something, but you know, things happen, you run out
of ideas, and sometimes you just get tired of, you know,
podcasting over and over again, and Will and I kind

(00:21):
of just wanted to, you know, hang out when we
saw each other. It's not that we don't love podcasting,
and we definitely love, you know, hearing what people have
to say about our podcast because you know, we know
a lot of the listeners, so it's really great to
get some feedback from you guys. But you need a
break from everything once in a while, except for our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So amen, we took a

(00:42):
little break. But anyway, we have in studio with me
today Daniel Dimes, and you probably already heard we have
Will on the phone because he's actually not in the
Buffalo area right now. He's in Unionville, New York, and
we're gonna be getting into what he's been doing on
today's episode of the w Ritz Podcast. But Will Danny
it's great to have you back on the podcast here.

(01:04):
It's great to be doing this again.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
We're so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Great to be back, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
We finally get to understand what our calling guests get
to feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, you feel you feel a little astraz Yeah right.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, I feel I feel like I feel like a
third wheel. That's like not even attached to the tricycle anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I don't know about I don't know about that. I
think you're I think you can still carry the podcast.
But you know, we're so back that it's been a
while since this podcast. I think I'm very funny. Other
than maybe Bert, I'm I don't know, I'm either rivaling him.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Or we have Danny's brag session.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, I don't know. I'm just saying I think I'm
the I think I'm the most occurring up guests on
the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
You're very charismatic everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I think that would be true. I think I think
this is our fourth time having him on. If I'm
not mistaken, you feel something that was more of a
rapid succession.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, it's third or fourth. I'm thinking I'm leaning towards
third time on. But if it's more than definitely the most.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's just you fill up space. Well, whenever we don't
know what to say, you say something I see and
it works out.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Well, yeah, exactly, No, that's yeah, it's good for a podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's good for a podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
No, yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Danny's drinking his liquid death.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's actually actually really good. I was not expecting this
to be good. You know how you know my opinion
on sparkling water.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
But I know you don't like it.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
But well, liquid death is I mean, ever since you
got me that mango on.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That, but death is mildly sweet like it.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
It's because liquid death actually has like a little bit
of sugar in it, or.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Is most filter water.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It has some all natural in it.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's less it's less radio static than like Lacroix.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's just lacroix. That's what I'm drinking. I'm drinking lacroix. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, well what are you sipping on over there?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Will? What's that?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
What are you sipping on?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm just water, just straight tap water.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Bro alright, ba, get that lead in your in your system.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's okay, it's filtered. It's filtered. Don't worry, all right,
I'm not I have a standard of health guys, come on,
give me a break.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
But anyway, well explain to us why you're not here
with us today. You have some explaining to do.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Because I got sick of you guys, and I wanted
to leave. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, guys.
I would never say that. That's so out of character
for me. Guys.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Come on, I can't believe all of you viewers fell
for that. That was crazy. You guys should be embarrassed. Okay,
more serious note. So, basically what I've been doing for
the past eight weeks now is I've been staying with
a pastor and his family along the Appalachian.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Trail, which, for those of you who don't know what that.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Is, it's basically this twenty five hundred mile trail spanning
from Georgia all the way through Maine that people from
all over the US and all over the world world
will come to and hike for a couple of months,
usually like four to six months, depending on your speed,

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and they just devote parts of their lives or like
parts of their years just to hike this trail.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
As the reasons can span from anywhere.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
From just you know, they love hiking and they want
to take a long hiking vacation too. They don't really
have anywhere else to go, and they just need something
to do or get away from their they're crazy or
depressing lives.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's it's quite the it's quite the interesting culture.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Over here because you meet all sorts of different people
from different walks of life who are just all hiking
the same trail with the same goal finishing the twenty
five hundred miles. And basically what my duties are specifically
is we're running something called a hostel out of the
pastor's house's basement, which is basically just a place for

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velers to come through and stay in and you know,
stay in for a night or two and then move on.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
It used to be a lot more common, you.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Know, in olden times where we're like wandering nomads.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
We're more more of a thing.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
But that's so common nowadays with cars and you know,
airbnbs and such, but they're still around for cultures such
as long Us trails, and.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Running this hostel is mostly just cleaning.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Washing, doing laundry, making beds, preparing coffee and pancakes and stuff,
and making.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Sure that the hikers fear comfortable and welcome.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
And it's completely donation based, so they don't have to
pay anything to stay here.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
There's some hostels on the trail that are.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like like fifteen or twenty dollars a night. So a
lot of hikers are very thankful for this, and if
they want to donate, they can, but you know, no
pressure obviously. So yeah, just here to be a servant
to the hikers along the trail, and.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, it's it's it's been very rewarding. In the eight
weeks I've been here.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I've gotten to talk to a lot of interesting people,
and some people have been really impacted by our work here.
Others have just sort of appreciated the simple service we
serve and just move on, which you know, that's sometimes
that's all you can really do as a Christian is
be be a servant to others. And sometimes you don't

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even get the chance to talk to them about God.
But you know, hopefully through your actions that shows them
a little bit of God's love and the love of
Jesus Christ, and maybe that affects them down the line. Yeah,
So any questions, any anything to say about that.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I find that it's ironic that the hostile is ironically unhostile.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, I should look into the etymology of the word
hostile because I've heard.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
They that show before. But I think there's two different
meanings and probably word origins.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
But yeah, no, Now, this thing, this hostel is basically
just you know, general information. It's basically funded by will
and ized churches denomination, you know, yes, by the missionary wing.
So they actually sponsored will to go out for ten weeks,
right and yeah, ten weeks. Yeah, do ten weeks out there?
Just helping the pastor. I mean it's a from what

(07:27):
from what you've told me, Well, it sounds like he
has his hands very full of well with his family
and everything else, and you've been able to kind of
come up, yeah and help him out.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
The pastor, so he's the pastor of a church. It's
a fairly small church, but he's the sole pastor. He
has two elders, so he doesn't exactly have so much
help there. So he's got a lot to worry about,
but the various sermons and Bible studies to run, and
then he also runs his hostile and then he does

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carpentry in addition to all that, and in addition to
helping you know, take care of his family, so.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
They need a lot of.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Help over summer. So that's why they have an intern
every year. I'm the third one they've had so far.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, got So, is there are there any more volunteers
I may have missed heard about? Are there any more
volunteers like working alongside you?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Like?

Speaker 4 (08:21):
No, I'm the only one.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
They don't really have a need for more than one.
It would get pretty crowded if there were there were
more people helping out.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
But yeah, one extra set of adult hands is all
they really need. I think once, once their kids get
a little older and uh start helping out a little more,
they probably won't need an intern much anymore.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Because a lot of my work is just sort of.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
It can be done by a.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Hard working teenager.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
But yeah, a lot of the more rewarding involved work
has to do with the hikers and talking with them
and some very interesting conversations and people.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, well you from here.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
You told me earlier this week, and I'm interested in
hearing more about it. But there was you said, there
was this guy who's like an actual pagan who came
by and you had you discussed, you know, things with
him for a while, and I I told you, you know,
you should tell me what the next time we call. Well,
now we're on the next time we call, why don't
you tell us about this pagan guy?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Okay, well, okay, it was a girl. First of all.
That was I mean, that's so really much of a distinction,
but so yeah, that was definitely the most interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Guess.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
It was like the first time I actually had to
like like debate somebody on the Bible, because like, all
like the hikers who came through here up to this
point were like, not all of them are Christian, obviously,
but none of them.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Were like adverse to the Bible or like they didn't
like it. You shouldn't just sort of chill about it.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
You shouldn't really be adverse to the religion of the
guy who's like letting you stay in his house.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Over yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
But yeah, this, this this girl was the first one
who was like actively like, yeah, I think the Bible
is harmful and misleading, and well, I you know, you
guys know me, I'm very passionate about my faith and
my beliefs. So I engage with her and it was
a very respectful discussion over over I think like two

(10:21):
hours almost about the whole thing, and basically.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I'm trying to I don't know how much detail I
want to go.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Into here, but what was the conversation?

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Basically the conversation is about Oh go ahead, sorry, sorry,
Well I.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Was gonna say, what was the main purpose of the conversation, like,
was well.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
It all spawned when I said.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Oh, I'm interested in ministry work and maybe the potential
of eventually becoming a pastor.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
And she was like, oh, well, I don't really you know,
I read the.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Bible once, you know, a while ago, and I find
it to be very condescending. And I go, oh, oh, oh,
how so, and then we go into a whole discussion
about men, men and women's role in a in a
god fearing relationship because she found the Bible to be
pretty condescending towards women, especially all the verse about women

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being the weak, weaker vessel.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
If I had to choose, like kind of condescending, if.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I had to choose, like one verse that makes people
dislike the Bible the most in like twenty twenty five,
that would probably be it, like the whole the Bible's
whole view of women, Like that's yeah, obviously I agree
with it, but like that is the one that the
most amount of people seem to really dislike.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, at the same time, if you actually look at
how women are treated during the time of the Bible,
and you look at the actual accountability of like the
Jesus Resurrection, they cite women and they say the first
people to report that Jesus was alive and now on
the two more women, which if you wanted, if you
wanted a coherent story that people would be like, oh, yeah,

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that's true, you would not include women. And the Bible
actually like amplifies women way more than like definitely other religions.
Like like just just looking at the time, but obviously
we understand in terms of like women's role in the
house and mayor o.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Well not even not even just looking at the time,
looking at today, you see, you could take the most
amish woman out there, you know, the stereotypical like you know,
your husband doesn't let you do anything, you're kind of
stuck at home washing washing clothes all day. That woman
is still I guarantee you, you know, treated better than
ninety nine percent of women living in like Saudi Arabia
or something, or maybe Saudi Arabia, I don't remember. If

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they're getting more modern with that or not. But you know,
you take the average Muslim country, they're not going to
treat their women as well as you know, an Amish
family would or an almost community.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
No, because I mean even Amish are they're uh monogamous
the only having one.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, unlike like Mormons or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, we're and unlike like Muslims where you have like
it's a good to have three wives or more. It's
even better to have that because more people help her
in the house. But we understand it's just one on one.
But anyways, so she had a big problem with how.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, that was her main her main problem with at all.
It's actually had a couple more problems which we discussed,
but you know, I explained, you know, it's not trying
to put down women and just trying to explain how
you know, we have different roles and like God, well
that men to be the protectors.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Of women, and women are you know, they're.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
They're naturally more fragile and need to be more protected more.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's interesting because the woman issue to me is like
the most culturally important one, like obviously the most personally
and societally maybe important issue. Is you know, how many
you know do you accept Jesus as your Lord and savior.
That's that's the most important issue for your personal life
and for your community. But in general, I think that

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the issue of how do you view women actually affects
society more because right from the get go, you have
you know, you come out of your mother's womb. Well,
your mom is a woman. I'm sorry, your mom is
not man. So either you view women as like, you know,
they're supposed to be independent and not really have kids
and you know, prioritize that grindset, you know where they

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go out and you know, work for the widget factory.
Either you can view them as just the same as
a man, or you can view them as different. And
how you how a society sees that as going to
change things like whether it has abortion, what kind of
contraception it has, you know, even things like child like
I don't have an inherent problem with people sending their
kids off to daycare or whatever. I get it. Life's hard.

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Sometimes you gotta sometimes regrettably you don't have time to
stay home with your kids. But you can kind of
measure a society's health by how it treats its women
and children, because that's going to affect a lot of
different things, and like daycare shouldn't be raising children, you know,
like that's one of the things where if you don't
like women and you get more daycares, well, that's just
some you know, underpaid worker taking care of your kid

(15:08):
all day. That's not going to care for your kid
like a woman would like a mother, would you know.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, it's not in the kids, I mean, let alone
being in the mom's best interest being what's that long
term relationship going to look like? When you just throw
your kid into this place. That's not it's not a
personal relationship. What's good for the kid?

Speaker 4 (15:27):
We're building out and that's like yeah, and that's something
like we had conversations with various hikers about different ones,
but was that like homeschooling is like kind of just
like the best way to raise your kid because in
public schools, like teachers are teaching kid classes of like

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what twenty to thirty kids sometimes more so, it's really
hard to be involved in you know, individual students like
learning abilities and learning abilities and they're you know, you know,
intellectual growth, whereas you know.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
If you're a homeschool mom or homeschool.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Parents, like you're focusing on each individual one of your
kids and helping them out individually, right, And I think
there's there's statistics to I don't know them off the
top of my head, but there are statistics to show
that that's actually more beneficial for children, because usually better
often than long run.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
As far as like importance of learning subjects go, I
don't think kids need to go to school as early
as they do, like until you're maybe ten years old.
Really all you need to be doing is staying at
home with your mom and playing all day, and that's
going to be really good for you. And then once
you get.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Old, still still learning.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
But yeah, of course I like learning to read, write
and do basic math. Well well yeah, it says on
average average high schooler spends thirty to sixty minutes a day,
even like a little bit higher, maybe like thirty, like
an hour and a half on a weekend, and like
the with their mom or with their parents. Like I

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mean me personally growing up, let alone spending like eight
hours a day with my mom, just like constantly spending
time with my parents, working with my dad. But they're like,
could you imagine if you only I know we're all
kind of the same with how much time we spend
with our parents. Like could you imagine like only seeing
your mom like for like half an hour every day.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's crazy to me, that would be. Yeah, it's like
no wonder like so.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Many like people nowadays like just don't get along with
their parents. It's like obviously like never got a chance
to get to know them or develop a relationship with them.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I mean, i'd imagine that that thirty to sixty minutes
at least ten percent of them is just the kid
asking the parent if they can do something and either
getting shot down or getting confirmed on what to do.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
But no that yeah, yeah, it's like the less time
you spend with some one, the less you're going to
want to spend time without someone. Like if you don't
see your friend for a year, you're not going to
want to see your friend as much as you did
when you saw them last year.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's it's it's basically kind of.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Absence can make the heart grow fonder, but not not.
I don't think that's generally how it actually works.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Because if you didn't it's one thing, if like the
one thing like will's gone now you have really good
relationship with you.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I miss Will and we call a lot. Yeah, I
want to see him.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
But if that wasn't if we originally didn't spend the
time to get to know you, I wouldn't necessarily care
if you were gone because I didn't really spend that
much time with you in the first place.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Right, Yeah, because with each of you I spent easily, like,
probably hundreds of hours with each of you. Yeah, it's
it's been a long run. So yeah, it's we have
a bond that won't be broken by any distance or time.
But if you don't take the time to develop those
bonds in the first place, it's hard to miss somebody

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once they're gone.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So right, And that's why we don't. That's why it's
a bad thing when moms, right from the get go
kick their child off to childcare. It's like, what exactly
going to be off of work for a month and
then you're going over to you know, little tots play
place for the next three years of your life until
you can go to school, which is essentially the same
thing for all intents and purposes.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
And in a lot of ways, I don't think it's
entirely In a lot of situations. It's not always the
mom's fault because it's the unfortunate reality of today.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
We're like, no, true, Yeah, it's really hard.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
To live off of like a single income household. Yeah, Like,
but the man has to be making a lot of money, right,
In many cases, both both parents need to be working
in order to get by. And it's it's really sad
to see, but that's kind of the unfortunate reality of
America today.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, yeah, I have I don't have contempt for parents
who are just doing it because they have to. I'm
just saying it is a regrettable thing.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, it's it's societal pressure.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
It's sad.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, yeah, And I I mean I don't know not
that not that it's not wrong or not like harmful,
but I mean you kind of have to look at
just the way that the world is. You kind of
quote unquote can't blame them because they don't really know
any different. Like, as Christians, we know that God prioritizes

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tells us to prioritize the training and teaching time with
your kids and to raise them up to know God,
but then spend time with them. But if you're just
in the public, there's no well, incentive other than I
guess just like based one having a good relationship with them,
there's no extra.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Here's the thing, though, you can't. You can kind of
blame some parents. I'm not talking about the ones that
are struggling to make ends meet. I'm talking about the
ones that go into debt on an eighty thousand dollars
car and then both have to work jobs at the
expense of the kid who's sitting at home wondering where
mommy is.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, living, living, living, living above their means.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, we live above our means all the time. And
then yeah, that's part of why both parents have to
work so much. And ultimately, you chose to have a kid,
you know, you chose to do the thing that makes
you have a kid, whether you wanted that kid in
the first place or not. You should have been smarter. Well,
now you have a kid, you're stuck with it, so
you should put it first above that you know, nice

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new car or nice new house or nice new whatever,
and just live a little poorer so you can afford
to spend more time with your kid. And ultimately, when
you're old, you're not going to regret that, believe it
or not.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
MM hmm. And then.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
So anyway, what else has been going on for this
for you?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Well?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
What else? You taught me a lot of stuff, so.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I didn't even get to like the pagan part of
the person I was talking to, Like we just scratched
the surface there.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
All right, Well, yeah, let's hear more about it.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Well, continuing our conversation past the whole the women's role thing,
like I explained, you know, all the basic points of
what Christians and she just flat out just disagreed. She
thought it was kind of in her word, she thought
it was awful. So it's it's just people aren't gonna

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you can't force people to see your perspective.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
But well, is, how does she justify that? Like, what
does she believe in? Said? Because everybody believes something.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well, okay, well I'm getting to that.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
So basically, eventually down the line, she asks me, oh, what.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Do you when? What do you imagine? When? What do
you imagine God looks like? Or something like that? And
then I say, well.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I don't really I don't really feel comfortable trying to
attribute a look to God because I'm sure his like
the Bible never really goes into detail and what he
looks like if at all. And all I know is
like he's his form is so holy and pure that
like we just in our mortal fall in forms just

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can't come handed. And she was like, oh, okay, well
I always I always imagine.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Him as the Son.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
And I'm like, okay, why because she's she goes like
the Bible says that you know, anytime somebody tries to
look on God, like they're blinded and to have to
look away, and this is how the sun works, Like yeah,
I guess, but don't you need to literally the son,
which is like I've always associated the Son with like

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a masculine energy of God.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
And then I go, oh okay, and she can. And
then she goes.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
And to oppose that I view the sea as the
feminine energy of God.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
And I I'm.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
A little skeptical here, and I even say to our outright,
that seems awfully pagan, and then she agrees with me,
like yeah, it is pagan, and she just she just
admits it outright, and I'm like, oh, at least she's honest.
And her whole point was like she goes into this
whole like sort of detailed view of her personal beliefs

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is about how she believes Jesus was a real person,
but not really the son of God, but someone who
was sent there or just a man who was like
using Christianity to make the world a better place because
she she says that a lot of jesus teaching matched
Eastern philosophy, which is in part true, but like obviously

(24:32):
that's just that's just the basis of biblical truth, is
Jesus is teaching. And you know, Eastern philosophy got some
things right, sure, but you know they weren't they didn't
they weren't Eastern in origin, because Jesus was, he was
in Eastern he was an Asian or anything.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
No, I mean the origin is from God.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
It's speaking right exactly like other philosophies might get some
some truths right through just like basic like logic.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
And more compass.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Felt like without the Bible, like they're not.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Based on any form of truth. And basically, she said,
like he used like the masculines on energy to bring
like some balance to the ancient world and used Christianity
as like a tool to bring order because there was
a lot of tyranny going on. And she says, now
there's an imbalance of energies and there's too much masculines

(25:30):
on energy in the.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
World and we need.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
More feminine sea energy or to rebalance it. And you know,
I was just I was just mulling this all over
as she's saying it, and like I just and I say,
I don't agree. I think Christianity, you know, when Christ came,
he brought peace of the world, and he brought you know,
he took the sense upon his cross, and he he

(25:56):
fought for those who were being or he was helping
those who were you know, looked down upon and kicked
and being pushed down because the Pharisees were abusing their
religious power and misquoting the Bible in you know, and
being hypocritical, and he was just bringing order to that
and dying for our sins, fulfilling the the Old Testament prophecy.

(26:20):
And I think the problem in today's world is just
a lack of Jesus, like like following of Jesus's teachings,
Like you look at everything that's going wrong in the world,
and none of it is aligned with anything Jesus said.
So it's like I don't think there's an imbalance of energy,
it's just a lack of you know, basis in Jesus's

(26:43):
teaching and the moral.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Truth of the Bible. And she goes, Okay, I understand that.
I just I just don't really agree. And then.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
And then and then later down the line in our conversation,
she it was kind of funny because like we used
the same line of reasoning to come to different conclusions.
Was one of the things she said was, you know,
it's it's hard for me to accept Christianity because there's
so many religions out there, so many different stories.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
It's like, not.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
They can't means like none of them are really true,
or you know, means.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
None of them can be true.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
And I think, and I said, I actually think it's
kind of the opposite. I think, because there are so
many stories and so many religions that won't they all
have to you know, tie back to one true one.
Because there are so many religions that you know, quote
Jesus or reference Jesus as either a prophet or just
a really wise man. So Jesus was obviously a very

(27:44):
important person.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
To a lot of these religions. So one of them
has to be a true account.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
And I believe that to be the Bible and she goes, Okay,
I understand, and she like, we never really you know,
argued like heatedly, like we're very respectful with each other,
which I do appreciate. She wasn't, you know, she never
yelled or insulted me or anything. I mean she was
she was very blunt when she didn't like something, like.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
With the whole concept of how she really didn't like that.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Which that's also a big problem in addition to the
to the the verses about women that Isaac mentioned is
a lot of people just really can't wrap their heads
around the concept of heaven and hell about people being
punished for all eternity.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, so, yeah, Well, I think I think when you
when you talk about a bunch of like having so
many religions, I think not only that a lot of
religions use Jesus or tie back to Jesus or talk
about him. I mean, you ually look at religion in general.
From what I've seen, obviously I haven't visited every single

(28:47):
one or researched every single one, but from what I've seen,
if you go to any like untouched like uncontacted but
obviously contacted tribe or indigenous people, there is some sort
of God that they worship, and because because God says
in the Bible very clearly, very plainly, that he uses creation,

(29:07):
no one is without without excuse. He uses creation to
reveal himself, because it's stands to reason this didn't come
from nothing. So even even like the people who nobody's
telling them, hey, you know, maybe maybe somebody created all this,
it's very obvious to them that, well, we can't. We
got here somehow, So there's some type of God figure.

(29:30):
Obviously it's not Jesus most of the time, probably none
of the time because they've never probably heard of him,
but it is. They understand that God reveals himself through creation.
So and I think that gives I think gives it
a lot of weight to point back that like religion
wasn't just something made up by someone to either get

(29:52):
ahead or to like to control people. People have them
because they understand that we come here or we weren't
created by nothing, and we didn't just happen by accident,
because there's something that created us that we have a
purpose to serve for whatever that thing is. Obviously we
understand that to be God and in Jesus.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, or like even like the accounts of the flood,
Like they're pretty much the same in all of the
there there are a lot of you know, religious texts
that aren't biblical that date back to that time, and
a lot of them talk about there being a big
flood or something like that. Well, like even if you

(30:36):
think about like the martyrs in you know, Rome, just
after Jesus went back to heaven, Like what other religion
has just spread so rapidly in the face of such persecution,
Like that's got to count for something, you know for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
And it's not like Christianity is the only religion with martyrs.
But I mean just think about like the original twelve Disciples.
They personally, they personally knew Christ, so they knew what
was going on. It's not like it's not like they
like didn't like know. It wasn't like they were like

(31:15):
a third generation of people who just heard this story
and for them to all die in brutal fashion. I mean,
some of them died just of like natural causes, but
a lot of them chose to go to die for
seemingly from the world's perspective, nothing or I guess if
you want to haha, let's good, good prank, let's fool
everybody into being good people like cool prank bro like.

(31:40):
It doesn't. It doesn't gives them a lot of weight
to go and die for something that quote unquote isn't true.
It gives you so much weight.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
And another thing is like what other I'm trying to
think of any other religion that has two clearly defined
I guess you could say parts to it. That's not
exactly the right word, but you have you know, you
have the Jews and in before Jesus died, and then
you have Christianity. And I'm trying to think of any

(32:07):
other religion where you know, the Savior actually did come
and actually changed up the people group that you know
is truly worshiping him like Jesus changed it from you know,
the Jews no longer are actually correct about their beliefs,
but the Christians. Now, I'm trying to think of any
other religion.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Muslims. Muslims are strictly strictly like Middle Eastern people. Jews
are strictly Jews. I mean, you have now like Universalists,
but that's just lukewarm garbage, and like Mormons, but that's
just piggybacking off of what Christ did. No, I don't

(32:49):
know if Will knows, but I can't really think. I
think it's pretty it's it's usually pretty central to whatever
people group that it's. It's not for it's not for everybody. Well,
can you think of any that would be like that?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Like I'm trying to understand the point. They're like like.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Not just not just like like the Jews, Like if
you're Jewish, you believe in the Torah from that wrong,
like you believe right that Jesus wasn't God and that
the coming is still happening, he still needs to come
to Earth. That's only for they believe you need to
be Jewish to receive that reward, and Muslims believe you

(33:31):
have to be Middle Eastern to receive that like reward.
So our point is.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Actually, don't I was actually reading a book on Islam, well,
I was here, and I don't think Muslims necessarily believe that. Actually,
I think they do believe everybody has potential to be saved.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Right. My point was more, I don't see any religion
where there was one definitive savior that changed one people
group from being right to being actually wrong.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
There's no other religion that where God himself comes down
to humble himself for his people because in Islam, like
they believe Jesus was just a prophet of Allah.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
They don't believe he was the son of God.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
And Muhammad was just another prophet. So they believe you
have to work to get into Allah's favor, like you
have to do put in a lot of effort.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
And Christianity is the only one where.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
God came down to us to help save us, because
we can't in our own power.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Make it up to him. Like that's so there's no
other religion like that.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Right, which I mean makes sense from a if from
if it's a false religion, you would have to it's
such a big a burden of proof if you're like, hey,
our guy, he came down here, he was on earth, Okay,
well now that I mean since we're all human and
since he has still live, that person seemingly has still

(35:11):
live a sinless life. If they're is, if they're like
the son of God, they're probably not going to be sinning.
Whereas like the like the proof that they weren't like sinning,
like like it's it's hard to like it's one thing
to like tell somebody about, like even if it's just
on a human level, like, Oh, I got this friend
and he can do triple backflips and he can play

(35:32):
the guitar really well. It's one thing to just tell
you about that, but to actually invite that guy over
and to do that stuff in front of you, like,
to actually see him in person, it's a whole different
level of like proof they have to go through to
prove that to people, which obviously every other religion can't
do because they didn't Obviously they didn't want to do

(35:55):
that because then you'd have to like, I mean, look
at Joseph Smith, like where are the Golden tablets? Buddy?
Like yet it like you're gonna do everything from behind
a veil. It's gonna be like, yeah, well, I'm the
only one who can hear him. I'm the only one
who can translate him, you know, Like there's no actual
proof is in the putting general like physical evidence for

(36:16):
the things that you're claiming.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
And that's that's also another thing is I could be
wrong in this, but from what I understand is like
Christianity is the only religion.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
I mean, Judaism obviously is part part this too, but
they that's because they believe.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
In the Old Testament only, But it's the only religion
where we have multiple people who wrote our texts, Like
there's a combination of many, many like God inspired individuals
who wrote our religious texts.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
So it's not just one person, like yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Karan was just Mohammed and then the Book of Mormon.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Was just Joseph Smith.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
They will claim it's they will claim the Book of
Mormon was written by Jesus himself, but that's, you know,
obviously not true.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Right, Whereas Christianity has four different gospels that all say
the same.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Thing exactly, and not even just that, but all written.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Different people, tons of tons of tons of overlapping, continuitous
that's the correct terminology, non contradictory like verses and Bibles
and like writings across thousands, if if not, if not thousands,

(37:36):
hundreds of years. I think it's would it not be
thousands because of like Genesis and like Exodus, I.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Think I think so, yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Which Actually I have a have a book that has
dates on when they were approximately written in check.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I think this book I have.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Approximates Genesis to be written written around fourteen hundred BC,
So yeah, it would be thought.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, written over all the Way to written over a
span of fifteen hundred years. Yeah, yeah, which is just
crazy because it's not like you would think with all
these different writers, you'd think there'd be some there, some
continuity issues there, some some contrads.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Know, they all they all work together to prove each other,
and they all cross reference each.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Other prophecies that actually came true when hundreds of years before. Yeah,
but howd the conversation kind of end?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
It ended? It ended with me and her or me
sharing my personal testimony with her, because I felt like
that was like good, good job.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Being more personal was what was needed because like intellectual
arguments weren't going anywhere. We both just and we both
just weren't gonna like see how to eye, like we
underst stood to each other's perspective, but we just weren't
going to agree with each other. So I just shared
my testimony and she seemed to take that to.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Heart a little bit.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
She did take a Bible before she left, because we
give out three Bibles. We have a little box form
near the near the door. And I don't know if
like that means anything, but no, I'm hopeful. I don't
know if I handled it the best because I don't
know if I structured my arguments the best or like
reference the right things at times. But I hope, I

(39:30):
hope the Holy Spirit does some work in her because
she is a She's a pretty intelligent young lady, and
I'd like to see her among the parly gates. But
you know, it's not in my hands anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
All right, Well, what else has been going on over
in Unionville? I mean, I know you've been doing a
lot of manual labor, and.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, so when I'm not helping out with the hikers,
which you know that there's quite a few.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Times where like there's no work to be done with
the hikers, I'm just helping out Pastordomo with his work.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
So we built a chicken coop, We've we've done a
garden expansion, we port cement, done a lot of work
in the backyard and stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
So it was not really too much to talk about there.
I mean, it's just manual labor. So yeah, it is
what it is, physical work.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Come home sweating and I'm like, yeah that felt good.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Oh yeah, bro, the naps here go crazy?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Oh man, I love napping after work. It's yeah, top
ten experiences. But yeah, I hear that Unionville pizza is
not as good as Buffalo pizza.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Oh, of course not.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
It's it's decent for what it is, but you know
it's not. It's not going to compare it to Matinas
or anything.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Nothing compares to Matinas. We love you Matinas. We're not even.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Sponsors of all time and to everybody who enjoys it,
you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Well, tell us about your New York City trip, man.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Oh okay, yeah, So for those of you who don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Previous guests of the podcast, Ben Lubner came over, Uh,
drove over to Unionville, picked me up, and we went
to a little day trip to New York City. We
brought uh, he brought us friends Noah and Josh Mainclair, but.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Neither of them were on the podcast, so some of
your viewers might not know them. But you know there's
still great people. Shout out.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
No Freiberg and Josh Mainclair love you guys.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah, they came over and you know, we got in
my car and we drove over to New York City.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
We found free parking in the Bronx, but the subway station,
like of course, was just closed for maintenance, so we
had to We got delayed by like an hour getting
into the actual city, so we had to like like
rent shooters and then like scoot over to a bus
station and take a bus to another bus to take

(42:05):
us to the nearest subway station.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
That was. That was a fun little side quest there.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Then when we got into the city itself, we went
to Central Park and we mostly stayed in that area,
like the areas around Central Park. So we found this
pizza place called uh Labianca's, and I will say, I
will say, fantastic pizza, unreal, unreal, not better than Metina's,

(42:37):
but still really good.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, no, never better than Matina's.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well, I think that it's not that, not that I
would ever dissed my goats, Mattinas, well everything. When it
comes to pizza, it's all personal preference because me personally,
I like some thick pizza. So oh yeah, I'm not
gonna Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
I could see somebody saying that pizza's better than Natina's.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
In fact, I think Noah said it.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
He thought it was better because I think too, because
they like thin pizza.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
They like New York slice.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Is a lot less messy than a Natinas slice. So
if you're like if you like clean hands while eating pizza,
like New York pizza is the way to go. But
you know, if you want again, it's my preference too,
But Natina's I like the thick, saucy sauciness.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Of it, and I like dipping it in good old
blue cheese.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, how was how is the blue How was New
York City blue cheese?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Oh? We didn't actually try any blue cheese.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I don't know if they had it, but they gave
us some pree sauces because the place we went to
they had some homemade sauces and they give us it
for free because they were like, oh, are you guys
tourists And we're like, yeah, oh hear us.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Have some pree sauces. Oh thank you dude.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
And yeah, they gave us like a free like homemade
ranch and a honey garlic sauce. And the honey garlic
sauce due unreal, actually so good.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Ask then, and ask like Josh Minkler. They'll both tell
you it was amazing.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Like I don't I'd still take blue cheese any day
of the week, but like I could see somebody like
if you told me you liked the.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Honey garlic sauce more, I would not blame you. It
was really good.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I would go back to that specific pizza place just
for the honey garlic sauce.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
It was unreal.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Did you fail your did you fail your one tank
of gas challenge? Yet I keep waiting.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Oh I failed that a long time ago, those of
you who don't know, Like after like the first week
of being here, I called Isaac and I said, you know,
I because like I'm always at the house or at
the church, which is like within walking distance of the house,
so like I never used my car while I was here.

(44:53):
So I was like, you know what, Isaac, I'm gonna
set a challenge for myself. I'm just I don't want
to have to fill up my car the entire time here.
But I failed that pretty quickly because I saw that
Scranton was an hour away, and you know, I love
The Office, one of my favorite TV shows, So I
have to go to Scranton, Pennsylvania. So that was an

(45:14):
hour drive that way, and then we took my car
to go to New York City, just like an hour
and a half away.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Your friends wanted Your friends wanted you to fail that job.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Then you got tucked immediately off the bat.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Hey, they drove, they drove to five hours to come
me here. I thought the least I could do was
take him like.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
That's true, that's right. Will's a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
He's a really nice guy.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I like I like Will.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
He's a nice guy. Yeah, so when are you coming back?

Speaker 4 (45:42):
When we're coming back, it will be back the eighteenth
or the nineteenth, all.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Right, everybody who's listening, wait at Will's house when he
gets back. On the nineteen surprise party.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
I'll come to Nick Kreeenberg's graduation party.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Also shout out Nick Freeburg.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
He's a guy.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Everybody.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Graduation congratulations. Uh, I love you, bro.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'll be at them.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Yeah, I'll be there at the graduation party. So I'll
be there, coming to If you're coming to Nick free
Bergs graduation party, I'll see you there.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there at nine o'clock.
I'm Isaac. Just so you know you're invited to that
grad party. I don't know if you didn't know, I'm
gonna be there, like there, since I have a better
party to go to before that.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
But this guy's always we're gonna have We're gonna have
Hunter slap you again, bro.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, he could try my friend I wants party, but no,
but I will be. I will be at Nick Freebergs
house because I can't drive past nine. But anyways, we
had some other conversation to get to Yeah, this is.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
There anything else we need to go over from your trip?

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Will?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I mean we want we don't want to cut short
your life up the.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Uh? I just to go quickly.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
We went to the net, saw some cool sets of Barmer.
We went to Trump Tower. Awesome Trump Tower, Baby, let's.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Go beautiful tower.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
We went to the Rockefeller Center. We went to the
Nintendo Store. I got a really big Zelda.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Art book from there, so I'll definitely show Isaac and
Anna when I get back because they're both a big
Zelda nerds.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
So I'll have to show you guys. It's really cool. Actually,
I really like it. Yeah. Other than that, it wasn't
too much else to report. I don't think. Oh, we
went to Times Square at night and we got some
cool photos. That was that was really nice.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
And then you know, we we didn't get back until
like two am. But it was it was real fun
worth it, and you know, the general consensus after the
trip was New York city.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Nice place to visit, really nice place to visit, worth
the visit, but we never live there. The general field,
the group, no way. Anyway, That's that's all I have
to report there.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
But yeah, sounds fun. Anyways, this might be a this
might be a tad out there, but I think I
think the fans would like to know our general consensus
on it. But it's a little bit of an old question.
But what do you think, both of you about one
hundred men. I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna set the
ground roles here. Hundred men, Yes, five to nine, all

(48:16):
of them five to nine, like one hundred and eighty
pounds versus not the most genetically perfect in the world.
I mean you, in my opinion, you could get one,
but just your average gorilla. I'll look up the size
of an average girl up.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
But men like a silver backerilla.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, what do you boys? Think? Who's winning?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Well?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Men win? What kind of place are we in? Are
we in the natural habitat or a white we are in?

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
A just open field. You're just in a open field,
no sticks or stones on the ground. Grounds a little
bit bumpy, but not like because I I think if
you put it in like.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
A concrete room, no weapons or armor.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
No, I'm just gonna say, just as at the ground rolls,
everybody's naked because I think you could use I think
people could use clothes as weapons.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
So like strangling.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, so I would say.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
That ever Rilla strangles a few guys with his T shirt.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yeah, so I would say I would say, everybody's naked.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
You would want the last man?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, okay, buddy, last one standing, last one standing wins.
What do you boys think.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
I'm gonna win?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
No death, no death.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Okay, I'm gonna say the gorilla.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Okay, all right, Well let me let me quickly pull
up the average.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I mean, Danny, what are you thinking?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Well, let me pull up the average gorilla size silver back,
and I can.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I can.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I can tell you what I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I mean, have you seen those things?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
They got the counterpoint, they got.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
They got arguments, they got freaking twelve pack abs, and
they can snap whole tree branches in half.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
The average counterpoint good.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Counter one second? One second? Wait, I have to I
have to do something, all right. But while you're doing that,
here's here's.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
The problem for me. Theoretically, if you could get all
one hundred men to pile on the gorilla at once
and like pin it down, then the one hundred men
would win. Of course, the problem is that you can't
do that because the gorilla is gonna be going, you know, crazy,
and the men are not going like the gorilla is

(50:23):
just not big enough for all one hundred men to
get on at the same time. The gorilla is too unpredictable.
So what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna
have maybe like five men at a time trying to
fight it, and the gorilla, if it thinks it's gonna
be attacked, is gonna get real aggressive. It's gonna it's
way stronger than any of those men on their own,
So it's just gonna like throw them or something. I
just don't see I just don't see one hundred men

(50:44):
winning because one hundred men can't fight at gorilla at
the same time. It's gonna be like, realistically, it's gonna
be like five men against a gorilla, and there's no
way that's happening.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Listen, here's what I think. You take the average take
the average silverback gorilla. It's five to five nine. It's
not that tall. You take it's from three hundred to
five hundred and eighty five pounds. Between that, it's probably
sitting around like four hundred pounds. I think men win,
not necessarily, no diff there will definitely be tons of casualties.

(51:16):
But also for the first point, if you don't want
to take, if you can't just say okay, John Jones
Toime Asp and all Eddie Hall, Eddie Hall, put all
these elite fighters and strong men against the gorilla. You
can't hand pick the men. You can't hit handpick the gorilla,
so you gotta get an average one. I think that
if everybody rushes in at the same time, everyone's seeing red,

(51:38):
everyone's going crazy. First twenty guys probably cooked pass that.
Though men are strong, dude, you start you you, you
start getting punched, it's gonna hurt, you start getting parted
the face. All it takes is two guys like their
whole job, I mean, let alone coordinating. If you're like, okay,
Billy Tommy, your job is to poke this thing's eyes

(51:59):
out alone. I have a secret strategy for later.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
But we'll get Billy Billy Tommy poke this thing's eyes
out just because yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Go left, I got right. No, listen, not even implementing
my secret strategy. I think just pure blood forced because listen, gorillas,
that's a big thing. It's gonna get tired. One hundred guys,
it's gonna get tired real fast. And listen, you have
four guys from Africa with spears. They've killed gorillas before.
One hundred men versus four guys with spears. I don't

(52:31):
know process of elimination. I think that gorilla might be cooked.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
It might be, but I don't know. I feel like
having so many men would actually make things more chaotic
and disorganized. Like you said, average man, these are not
fighters who know how to communicate. No but just noise.
How would you how would you find a way to
yell Tommy poke this thing's eyes?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Well, I mean it depends on if you have that
coordinated strategy before. But I mean, even just going at it,
I think I think just in general, I think men
have fight or flight, and I think if we're all
seeing red and we need to we understand it. It's
either us or it. Think I think we can get
the job done and take this thing out.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
It could be I could I'll say this, I could
see it. I could see a scenario where that would happen. Like,
I can see that one hundred men could theoretically beat
a gorilla, but I still don't think that that's actually
what would happen. I don't think that. I don't think
that's what's likely to happen.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Well, listen, give me the genetically most perfect gorilla have
you ever seen in your life? And give me. Give
me ten minutes to talk to these boys. Explain my plan. Listen,
what do bodies on average have in them? Like, what's
what comprises the human body?

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Skin and bones?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Bones? There you go. Listen. Break the team up. Break
the men up into three groups. The first thirty guys
let's say they're all numbered one through thirty going then
thirty one through fifty nine. They stay back.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
It's like a gorilla draft.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah, get the first thirty guys to go in. Oh,
what's up?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Well, okay, I have two arguments for the men.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
First off, indomitable human spirit. Guys, we are created in
the image of God.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Gorilla is not. We just win based off of natural
human superiority.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Second point, attack on Titan season three, episode seventeen.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Those who know will know, will understand the.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Way this guy is quoting a television show as an
anime show as his evidence watching.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Literally it's literally not not even joking.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Is literally one hundred or I think I don't know
the exact number, but like a lot of men versus
one really big gorilla and the men win.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Bro to watch it, Bro, Well, listen, going back to
my point, all right, here, here's here's here's an idea.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
What if the gorilla evolves into a man in real time?
Because that that that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Well, listen, that's just one hundred men versus one really
big guy. I think that's even easier for the guys
to win. Now, listen, listen, you said in the first
thirty ice cannon fodder, they get cooked. Second thirty guys,
what they're gonna do is they're gonna keep the gorilla distracted,
keep it guessing standard distance, take some jabs, take some shots,
just keep it distracted. While the last forty guys forties

(55:16):
a lot. That's that's a big that's a big number.
Plus forty guys go to the old bodies and they
get they make bone weapons. You get a femur, you
sharpen that thing. You got five guys run out this drill.
One guy in the back. He jumps through with that femur.
You stab that thing, it's over.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Let alone.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
You get like some shoulder, you get some you get
some wristbones, make some little knives. Dude, that's where the
weapons come from. And if we have bone weapons, dude,
ask chatty pt we went.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I think you're I think your sources. It takes a
long time to like get the bones out of a
human body.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
And I think that gorilla is gonna be ripping off
some arms. I think it's gonna be pretty easy to
access those bones.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
But I guess.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
So you have forty guys armed with arms to the
t you with bone weapons, that thing's cooked. That thing's
absolutely fillaid.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Okay, I have unless you guys want to keep discussing this.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
No, no, I think I think I think we can't
have a pretty good consensus here, But go ahead.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
It will. Are you guys done?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
No, we're good?

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yeah, okay, follow up question one hundred gorillas versus one
stoic the vast the best?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Easy do that man? That man, that man tanked dragons,
he punched, He punched a flaming on the face. He's
good dog.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Yeah, exactly my thoughts exactly, easy, easy, stoic win.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah, okay, what about what about Isaac Zilbauer versus one Gorilla?
What are we thinking? You got a one v one
But but Isaac has a block.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
I think Isaac.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
I think Isaac has enough raisy into a false sense
of security.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Well, knowing you, you probably have like an illegal magazine.
So let's give you fifty.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
All right, fifty bullets and can I shoot from far away, like.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
From here to that wall which is probably like thirty feet?

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I feel like we would both end up dead because
I'd start shooting and then it would charge me and
kill me. But it would not before I drop some
lead into it.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
You could do some You could do an elden Ring
dodge roll.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Though it can run run past atack pattern.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, run past.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's just a lose lose scenario.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
It makes sense. But uh no, I think I think
we got that one well covered. Anyways. Uh anybody see
how expensive the Nintendo switch to is?

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Nintendant switch to isn't that expensive? I would be reasonable?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Console?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
The game?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
The games are what the games are? What people are
complaining about?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
How much are the game is going to be? Dara ninety? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Whoa I think that's I don't know, for physical only.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
I think it's okay, oh eighty for a piece of
media that you don't actually even own and could be
taken away from you when it's seemed to be too offensive.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, well, I mean it's just ridiculous,
which sure, Nintendo take my money, but it's moving in
a bad situation for the consumer because PlayStation Xbox.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
They're going to see this. I mean, I love me
some PlayStation, but the company is a company. They're gonna
see that, and they're gonna go, wow, people are still
paying for this, Let's charge him more money.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah right, Yeah, I just I don't know. I'm just
not gonna buy a switch to at least right now.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
I'm not in a place where need one right now.
Maybe when the next Smash game comes out, I'll buy one.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I mean I'm sure, I'm sure Steve. I'm sure Steve
will buy one when this Smash comes out.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Then you can just use his Yeah, I mean, we're
not going to live together forever.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
So I might at one point, but of course definitely
not something I'm gonna get this year because I don't
want to. I don't want to spend my money like
that right now, and I use it and save it
for other things, more important things.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
So yeah, that makes sense. What did you do for
fourth of July? William?

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Oh? What did I do for the fourth of July?

Speaker 2 (59:27):
He said, down any of the forest or no?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
No, no, no, he didn't just make some burgers.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Did you shoot off any fireworks or anything?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Did you shoot off any fireworks or no?

Speaker 3 (59:42):
No? We just watched like the town fireworks, how many.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
They put on?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
How many people around there shoot off fireworks? Because I
know where I live was a lot. It was like
every other way they were shooting off the ones. You
got to go to Pennsylvan.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Last night when I was on the phone with Nick Freeberg,
I was trying to listen of them. But people are
setting off fireworks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Yeah, you thought like Iran was bombing you or something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah, right, they could never know. The fifth of the
fifth of July debatedly, more fireworks could shot off because
everybody's extras that they.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Didn't use them up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I also learned that bottle rockets are, like I guess,
highly illegal, which I had no clue that they were,
even though my friend had like five hundred of them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Those are like the little ones that go up in
the air and just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
The ones that you either like well, the like ones
that you could like hold in your hand like very
lightly and then they shoot off from you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Or you can. Yeah, we had those this year and
when my one friend forgot to let go, so it
just went off while she was holding.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
It at the same I'm sure, but she's was she fine,
She was fine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
She just couldn't her left ear for a next hour.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
That's fine. I mean, you get some fire crackers in
in Minecraft. In Minecraft, you get some fire crackers. You
have a shoe on you drop that you like that
thing dropping on the ground and hold your foot over
it a little got a little flash bang for you.
But that's the only in mind them, not in real life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah Minecraft is in real life unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
But yeah, Well, how do you feel about that, uh,
that war with Iran that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
We're in Are we are we getting drafted or no?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Guys, Yeah, I think I think it might be getting.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I don't know, I just don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
I think I think the way our president handled it
was probably the most probably the best thing to do
in that situation, Like only bombing the nuclear facilities to
make sure they can use them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I think we're good because I I don't know about you,
but I mean I haven't heard of any like escalation happening. Yeah,
nothing like Iran is walking away like a dog tail
between the legs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
I think that was the best choice and decision to
you know, stop violence and preserve moral lies and like
prevent anything from escalating.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
I think, honestly, I would think worked out pretty well.
I wouldn't have been against. The only thing that would
stop me from like being for killing the Supreme leader
too would be that it would be it would probably
create a lot of chaos in Iran, which is not good.
And we don't know who the next leader would be.
But like I I think Trump could have been justified

(01:02:13):
and getting rid of him too, just as a.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
There's a lot of risks that and also unnecessary killing
isn't Philly something I'm a fan of.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
I'm not generally a fan, but this is a guy
who's you know, said that he wants to kill us
for so long and we should just we we kind
of did stomp it out, but I feel like we
could have justifiably stomped it out well, I'm not saying
it would be the best course of action, but I'm
saying I could see where we would do that just
because like we want it, We want it as a
dominance to slay. And what country is coming to Iran's

(01:02:44):
aid right now? Like none of them actually like Iran, No, none.
Every country knows that. It's like that weird cousin at
the family gathering. That's just a total like unpredictable fireball
that might end up hurting you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Yeah, for sure, will did you uh did you hear
about Iran? They tried Iran, Iran whatever, whatever you hold on,
however you want to pronounce it. He hear they tried
shooting our US embassy and uh I believe in uh Qatar,
and they shot fourteen missiles. We shot down thirteen of them,

(01:03:19):
and the last one was so poorly was so poorly
aimed by them that we order farm so hard to
be like, no, we're not even to shoot it down
even though we could have, because it was so poorly aimed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Well you know why that you know why we shot
most they told us that they were going to fire them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah, I mean even if they told us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Beforehand, so they didn't get in trouble. Like it was
just like, look at us, we're firing. We're firing bombs back.
Even even if they we told you already, so you
don't kill us, all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, I mean even if they didn't, I think I
don't think there'd be much of a problem. Would be fine,
even though yeah they completely missed one of them or
farm just to just to go ahead and shoot, just
not even shoot one down because it didn't even it
wasn't even to heart anything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Oh well, oh shoot, we might have annoyed. Will you're there?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Yeah, I'm here, okay whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
You didn't react to my last thing I said, but that's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Yeah, sorry I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Ye, don't cry, Danny, It's okay. But uh, anyway, Danny,
anything else we need to get to on the podcast today?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Uh, Isaac, would you rather be a jar of mayonnaise
or a woman?

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Well, I mean, what's the what's the joke here?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Man? I'm just just straight up. Would you would you
rather be?

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
What was the other thing?

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Would you rather be a jar of mayonnaise or a woman?

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Probably a woman?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
All right, that's gonna do it for us today on
the WIT's podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
You are to here first, wants to be a woman.
That's not what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I think I think we got him voice. Uh uh, Will,
is there anything What.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Would you have said? If I said jar of Maine
these I probably.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Would have said the same thing. Uh Will, Is there
anything you want to say before we go?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Uh uh uh uh uh uh. I think we're gonna
I'm not really a math guy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Go see the New f One movie. It's it's pretty.
It's I did not No, I'm just saying I'm telling you,
I'm telling the audience you see it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Another one, was that, the one with Brad Pitt.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah, it's it's it's shocked beautifully. It's great. Yeah, it's great.
The graphics are the graphics are I mean, obviously not graphic,
but it's very vivid. It's beautiful. It's gorgeous, very vivid,
very vibrant.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Anyways, I think I think that'll do it for the
podcast today.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Huh yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Glad to be on the phone with you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Obviously I'm not I'm not one of the hosts. But
uh well, you might see some more episodes coming in
the future.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Oh yeah, let me tease something a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Nothing, I mean nothing is set in stone, but we
are planning before I leave again for college to do
maybe one or two more episodes, and nothing is set
in stone yet, but I am in the talks of
a past host of the podcast about visiting Buffalo pretty

(01:06:24):
soon and maybe even having them on the podcast in person.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Stay tuned, keep your eyes and ears open.

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Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
That's that's so true. Well, thanks boys for I mean,
this episode we kind of interviewed Real Will, but I
want to thank you for having me on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Thank you for thank you for kind of taking over
his host.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Yeah, thank you for setting this up, Danny, because a
lot of this was due to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Yes, this was this was pretty much Danny's idea. And
thank you everybody for listening. We'll be back, you know,
whenever we come back, we're we're a little speratic. So
but until next time, God bless all of you, and
have a lovely July, and

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
So long bye guys.