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October 23, 2025 • 47 mins
The guys chat about TwitchCon, robots, and livestreams.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, welcome to water cooler. Thank you so much for
tuning in deciding to use these valuable, valuable minutes hang
out with us. Minutes is the lowest common denominator, right,
I'm not gonna say hours, So yeah, thank you for

(00:32):
your minutes.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I think seconds would be oh, that'd be yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I guess you're right. The mittes is the highest highest
common denominator. Is that thing, Matt? I don't know anyway?
Why is Kaylen correcting my math? Of all you guys? Anyway,
we appreciate you spending this time with us. You know
how the show goes, all right, Chris locksamana kick it
with my Corolla digital buds of yesteryear with me today.

(00:57):
You heard them all the way in Long Beach, California,
like myself. It's Kaitlyn Bean going on. Hey, Caylen. Hey,
Chris Klein has informed me that he may have to
pee during uh during this episode, so I may or
may not, he may or may not. Well if I do,
of all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
If I do, I'm gonna leaving my camera on.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I love it, I love I love the commitment. As
he takes another sip of his claw, just just to
just to further add to the excitement, let me hit
a drop, And then all the way in Austin, Texas,
it's Matt Fondelier.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Hey brother.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh yeah. And then in Orange County, California, mister Gary
Smith hat it Patna extra stanky in October for Halloween.
And then lastly been not leastly in North Hollywood, California,
or as we like to call it, naholka, mister Mike Dawson, what's.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Twisting in the wind? My merried band of Brethren?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yep? Is that like the band? I don't know, I
just made it a lyrics Okay, it's like no.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
It sounded like something Robinhood would say, right, dude, But
the wind it's like Dylan.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
It's like Bob Dylan dressed up as Robin Hood for Halloween.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
At the door.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Instead of trigger treat, he'd say, what's twisting in the wind?
Here's my merried band of Brethren?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, and then he goes, not to get political this
early on in the show, but are is the name
the Proud Boys like a version of merry Men, like
the like they're pretty much the merry men like men.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I don't know, they're synonyms almost.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah. It seems like it seems like a yeah, it's
a synonym. So I don't know, just just a got
me thinking here. All right, look, I got a lot
to tell you guys about. I am fresh off a weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Are you fresh for us? Six shining? I'm so inviting
to me.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, those are lyrics? Now that the cure? What is this?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's cool in the gang, bro it's cool in the gang.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Excuse me? Alright, So I'm fresh off a weekend at
the San Diego Convention Center gas Lamp District, historic gas
Lamp District where, Yeah, I've been with pretty much all
of you guys.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, howd you get there?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Careful? What is that?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Did you get there?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I drove so just I could, just so I could
go there. Well, you know, stand the whole time.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
And I went there for the weekend for this event
at the convention.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
This is the Whales Vagina. Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
This is the one, Yes, as the historic gas Lamp
District located there.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yes, the Convention Center is actually inside of the Whales Vagina.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It is, Yeah, it's it's part of the reproductive system
of San Diego.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Absolutely makes catering an uphill battle. But they figure it out.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
They do, and and they did because I ate plenty
plenty all right, So.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
So does this mean back to back weekends for you?
Like it wasn't last weekend on the boat? Yes, yes,
that sounds like a lot.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I gotta be honest with you, B to B. Yeah,
I was. I was on a cruise last weekend. This weekend,
I was at a convention. How are you doing? I'm
all right? But uh, do you guys know what convention
was going on this weekend? No heard anything of It.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Had something to do with exactly, something to do with
keyboards or sound on guitar or helicopters.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I'm gonna go with cat con con.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
That No, that's an Orlando man. Yeah, so the I'm
so glad. I'm so glad. I could I could let
you guys know about this then, because this is a
world that I don't think any of us are familiar with.
So I got to I got to go and investigate
firsthand all things that are twitch Con twenty twenty five.
This is a convention center for live streamers called twitch

(05:12):
sure Sure live Streamers. Yeah, you know, you know the
site twitch sports live streaming.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
When I was big into well, For the longest time,
I always thought it was so dumb that people would
watch other people play video games. And then when I
got obsessed with Call of Duty war Zone, I was
watching a couple of twitch streams. I was watching a
couple of Twitch streams during that time and I haven't since,
but yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
That was like a big thing when the site came out. Yeah,
everybody would go, why would you want to watch somebody
else playing? Just talk to you? But then I thought
back back in the day when I was a little
kid and I would watch my brother play Resident Evil
because I was too scared to do it on my own. Yeah,
I loved watching my younger brother play Resident Evil as

(05:57):
well and watch play it see me and Kalan related.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I would also get scared of them.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
It was and it was exciting, like I love doing it.
It was actually very fun. Or when I got to
watch Caylin play was a game the Last of Us, Yeah,
and I got to watch that, I just I just
get to enjoy the story, get to enjoy the excitement,
but I'm not necessarily my hands are sweating all over
this controller getting it soaked. So you're just watching and

(06:29):
then spoiling the game for someone later. That's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
I mean I'm of a certain age and I know
we're all in the same age range where you had
a character, they just had X amount of lives. So
you play Super Mario Brothers and if you died, you
just had to hand the controller off to your buddy.
And so we would just take turns playing and then
watching each other play.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
We do that too, but yeah, but for games, but
se where my brother's not scary doesn't give you the
same anxiety that Resident Evil too.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Does fucking Coopa and some of those dungeons.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Dude, Sorry, I had to run and answer a quick
phone call. But one of when we grew up, when
we were in just getting out of high school and
in the early days of college, the game, the computer
game Doom, and we had to control it from our keyboard.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, and for all of.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Us we it was it was equally fun to watch
as it was to play.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's right. Actually, Gary said that exact same thing. You
were on the phone. Gary said that exact stay smart.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah it was weird, Yeah, the same story.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
No, you're right, it was like and yeah, I would
watch people play Doom, dude.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
I love watching people play video games.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's good.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I'll sit and watch somebody who's good play grand theft.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
On over hourss. Have you ever heard of twitch?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Con No, but I've heard of Twitch. Yeah, all right,
well yeah, there are a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Watch my drummer Rainan does drum streams that's on Twitch.
Twitch is an actual, pretty good multi It's not just
video games.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay. So, yeah, you're right in.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
A girl like fucking give birth to a baby or
twitch like a week or two ago, you have.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
It was?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You're right, that's that was definitely a thing. I can't remember,
all right.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I get normal videos.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
I don't get giving birth videos.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
No, seriously, a girl fucking gave birth in her living
room and the Twitch stream.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Did Kalen has two daughters? It's part of his algorithm, right,
he's or twice?

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Did they close office section at the convention Center and
making an adult only section? Is there adult content on Twitch?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I don't think so. Well, I don't think so either. Okay,
So it's all about live streaming. In fact, before it
was Twitch, it was called something. It was something called
justin TV, which Gary and Matt might remember that justin
TV because we used to stream the Adam Carolla Show
on justin dot TV. We used to do live streams

(09:15):
of the Adam Kroller Show on Justin TV, and then
it broke off to do esports on the site called Twitch,
and then Twitch really really blew up with all the esports,
and then during COVID, because a lot of people like
play music and things like that, all the DJs would
play on Twitch.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Quick question. I know you're trying to tell a story here.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's good. Keep coming.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Was it justin dot TV or was it just in
dot TV?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
You're making it sound like it was a dude's name.
It is an exciting.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Freaking accomplished man, because it's justin dot TV.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, terrible branding mission accomplished.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
The guy's name was Justin who started it? Wow? And
I think he started because he he was like he
wanted He did a twenty four to seven. He was
basically a Truman show and he started it. Uh. So
it's just you go to justin not TV to watch
this guy Justin, and then when he was done, he's like,
let's just make this decipe for everybody in livestream. Okay. Anyway,
so I go to the San Diego Convention Center to

(10:14):
uh to cover twitch Con justin TV con. I have
never been to you know, I don't have so in
order to even go there, in order to get your credentials,
you have to have a Twitch user name. You have
to have a Twitch account. So I'd like to take
this moment to plug my Twitch account. Chris Locksimana now
breaking up. You will hear why that was a mistake.

(10:36):
That what I what I did?

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Oh because Chris Locksimana's there, dude, guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
No, Well it is now it's me and your your
you go when you get your badge, and your badge
is actually your username doesn't have anything about who you are,
Like you know, when you go to nam or or
or SEMA or INFO conference, let's say your name and
then the city and like whatever. This just says your
user name. So what would you guys do it?

Speaker 6 (11:03):
As you hold on, what you're saying is that you're
the only one walking around this entire convention center who's
wearing I was.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I didn't realize this, so I thought, sweet, I got
Chris lo Samana kind of ite was like Twitter or Instagram.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
When you got it, I thought the same thing. But
now I'm realizing, like that's not ideal it's a kid.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
To like your Reddit user name, which yeah, exactly. So
now I'm walking around my freaking name like, oh, this
is this. This is the mistake that I didn't realize
Ball's little brother. That's probably takes it or actually, for
a literation, big Ball's big brother, right, or it could

(11:44):
have been Bubba Boy Army, that could be.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
That would have been nice to ut promo for the show,
you know, but I didn't think about it.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Gary. I was just like, oh, let me check if
my name is available, and it was, And of course
it was.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
When you when you told that part of the story
and you got the part where it was Chris Locksamana,
I kind of secretly was like, dope, got it, like
you know, before you built the story perfectly because it
did sound sick before you.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
And look and then okay, so we get the credentials,
walk in with my name tag. That just doxes me
right away. And I walk in and it's it's like Gary,
I know, Gary's been a comic con. Kiln was just
a comic con, but it's very similar to where it's
just it's a celebration of niche. Right. You walk in

(12:33):
and there is just communities and some little something for everybody.
Like if you even broke down this whole show, like
just us five, there would be something for everybody. Like
there's a movie section for Kaitlin to go and to
go hang out. There's like a video game section for Gary,
there's a music section for Dawson. There's a there's a
tech section that I could go to. There's like a
hot anime girl with short skirts for Matts. Like there

(12:55):
are like there's something we could have branched off and
just had our own communities that we love and just
and just and just uh really connected with people.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
But was there some costplay going on?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
There was so much costplay?

Speaker 7 (13:07):
Yeah, I bet can ask because I because I remember
when you guys were asking me about when I went
to Comic Con this this past year. Uh, and I
told you it was always the saddest thing when someone
like just did a half ass costplay. It was just
kind of like a T shirt, maybe like a shitty
mask or like some face painted. It was always seeing

(13:29):
someone in a like legit costplay is impressive. Seeing someone
with like a half asked right half ass costplay was
just It's it's sad.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
They went they went all out.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
K these people are streamers, so they're they're streaming from
twitch Con. I would imagine that's a big badge of honor.
I will tell you all about that in just a
moment too.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, so they they do dress up, and yeah, they
go all out to the point where I felt underdressed
and I felt uncool because I didn't know who any
of these characters were. Like they're all like from like
cool video games or comics or or just characters. I'm like,
who is that? Who's that? Who's that? And I didn't know.
I didn't. Okay, callum, mute yourself. Bro, you're taking a

(14:08):
phone call right now. I'm just gonna mute them. I'm
just I just muted him.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
What a pro.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I was trying to power through it too. I was like,
all right, he's gone, I will answer his question, and
I will I will continue and here we are, all
right regardless. So I walk in. Everyone's dressed up, but
guarante to answer your question about people streaming, I would
say it was about one in five. There's over thirty

(14:38):
thousand people at this thing. I would say one in
five for one and six people had their phones out
as if they're taking a selfie and just.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Walking around was streaming on Twitch.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Everybody's just streaming at the same time, to the point
where there's so many cameras, like they go pros on
their shoulders, on their hats, they had cameras, they had
camera cruise some people some streamers just had crew with
lights and and and a bunch and like two different
camera people on them. And I said, all the all
these all the there's so much.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
There's so many one time that I feel like that
would be very anxious.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
It was like the reverse of the Dark Night Machine
to where every camera was just in there, just like
pointing up, you know what I mean, Like there's everybody's
phone was on and just like you couldn't get away
with a single crime, you couldn't get away with petty
theft there. I could have jumped in the air.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
It's too bad because I know you were planning on
getting away with you.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
You know, I'm a big petty theft guy, Matt. I
could have I could have jumped in the air and
they could have done that Matrix thing from Matrix one
where the cameras just like just seamlessly went around me,
like like what they did with Neo so.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
They made it very clear and Ghostbusters, you don't cross
the streams.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
This is really crazy that people were doing that.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
There were there were streamers who would run another streamers.
You're like, oh my god, look who's here. It's you know,
and then they'd say their handle and then there and
they would like show each other and of course I'm
looking at their phones, just like, who is watching these
I'm not familiar with this, with this culture. Comments are
just going nuts, dude on all the phones. Really they
all have like people watching and people paying attention. I'm

(16:17):
just like, it's just such a new world to me that.
But it it's bigger than any podcast convention I've ever
been to you number one, So I don't even know
if is this a bigger this is bigger than podcasting,
Like is this where we should be doing.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
There's like a huge scandal going on in like the
live streaming world these past two weeks.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Now, I'm not in the life.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I know somebody gave birth kaylin.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, no, no, well I guess there's two. There's two.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
No, Like two weeks ago, this live streamer was caught
shocking he put a shot collar on his dog and
his dog would sit in the back of the live
stream and just like said, there's a very cute dog
and he apparently put a shot collar on it, and
anytime it would try to leave its bed, he would
shock it so it would stay in its bed, just
so it would be like eye.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Candy for his viewers. It's really fucked up shit.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
So and like he could just rock the internet that
this guy was like torturing his dog just so it
would sit there and get like it would be like
eye candy for.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
The p I saw that.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I saw that people were accusing him of that, and
at first I thought that's bullshit, and then I was like, well,
what about what's the difference between that and.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
A bark collar?

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Well, like, well there's a pretty big difference difference.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
So but but still the same for those who listening
who don't know, And I'm this is all alleged because
I haven't I haven't done the research to find out
what really happened. But from what the a few weeks ago, Yeah,
there's a streamer called a name tossn. He's very well known,
and he was he was just streaming and he looked
to reach off screen and then the dog behind him,

(17:51):
who was like placed like almost as if he was
a prop like like perfectly framed right over his shoulder,
yelps because he and then goes back.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
To like because the dog got up and kind of
stepped off the bed and like waited and then he
reached down and it yelped and went and sat back
down at the bed.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
So it was right again.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I don't still has since gone on to explain what
happened and showed the caller. I don't know. I haven't
done the research to see if he was being truthful
or if there's holes in his story or not. So
I don't want to. I don't want to say anything
Garry Goos that could that could say what he was
doing one thing or another. So, but that is just
kind of what the first fio.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
From what I've seen on the internet.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
Yeah, it seems like that's what he did.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
That's just like sort of the story that was around
the internet. I saw it as well.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Right right again, my algorithm is showing me cake recipes.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
What is happening with you guys?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
This is an algorithm. This is front page Reddit news.
There's a difference. This is.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
Like the incoming alien and is it news like ghosts
appearing in random houses.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Is it news?

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Okay, slash ufo does come up quite quite often on
the popular Reddit page trust.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So anyways, back to twitch can So I'm hanging out
with all these streamers. They're young, I mean average age
is probably twenty three. And that's because I was there.
I brought it way up the uh So, it's just
it was just kind of interesting just being around all
these kids, you know, and it's just, you know, basically
being around people I related to you. Why why why

(19:31):
were you there? Was this a work?

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Then?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah? Six seven six seven, So I was Kale's upset,
So I was. I would go to the.

Speaker 7 (19:42):
Other day, started saying, six, look, my daughter, who is
in a fucking cast, broke her leg, has been home
for the past five weeks, has not talked to anybody,
sitting on the couch the other day going six seven
sixty seven, She's five.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I was like, how the fuck?

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Where?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
How? How? How did I I don't even know what
it means. How did this happen? This happened like four
years ago, right in my home. While she's been it
hasn't been outside in four weeks.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I hate to say, you know, Benny's been over you know,
I don't know. Six seven was.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I saw Ben's fucking ripping it up on the guitar
the other day. It was pretty sweet.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Six seven was the first piece of child slang that
I've understood in the past. As soon as I heard that,
I was like, oh, on a scale it one to ten.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Was that seven? Is that what it is? I think
that's what it means.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, anyway, either way, I understood it because it still
means the same thing. Doesn't mean it, it's it's whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's the best explanation.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
That's what it means. That has to be what it is.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
I've asked like five for six people. That's the best
explanation I've heard of what it actually means.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, you guys, you guys just I would like to
believe it. You guys just don't get it. But so
I'm hanging out with all these live streamers and another
thing I noticed because I'm thinking like pod because I
know podcasting. I've been to podcasting conventions. I've been for
the last fourteen years.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
OG.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I'm og and I'm like, what so, And it's pretty similar.
It's just broadcasting, but it's live. I'll talk to people
like there's some of the music streamers awesomem like, oh,
so how long are your sets when you go live
and you just like take they just take requestion.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Four hours eight hours?

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Dude, Yeah, dude, that's aggressive.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
That's what they have to do that in order they
have to do a certain amount of time in order
to get affiliate status or paid status. It took rain
in like six months or maybe a year of drumming
to finally get to the point where he's got enough
fans and enough people who watch his videos that he

(21:50):
gets a very small amount of pennies.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, they're affiliates. That's right. You can make money if
you do it right and you have the right audience,
and obviously all these people the.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Way I'm on Twitch, I'm on Twitch at Dos Angeles.
Go ahead and follow me there. I totally forgot. You
can totally stream on switch on on Twitch.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, rock party. We should stream listeners.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Speak a podcasts for Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I don't think there's a well, can we go?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
You can just go for those listening if you're on Twitch,
hit me up dropping in Gosh, that's going to sound
like the oldest I'm the oldest man of the world. No,
we need to Yeah, Chris, that that you are, that
you are on Twitch, and we will.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
The first step you need is five or do you
need fifty people who subscribe to your channel. That's what
we need to get and each right now, each of
us have zero. That's a combined score of zero.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Check mine. Yeah, but you know I've been I've been
on for a few days, so we'll see.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Okay, so I've been on for a few years. I
just opened up my Twitch right now. It's just to
be like does this work on this computer?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Let me tell you something about the interactions between these
streamers dos and like with podcasting, So when these days
when somebody's like I'm gonna start a new podcast, I
see a lot of podcasters and people just go, oh,
we don't need another one. We don't need like everybody's
doing it, like do it only do it? Like if
you if like you know what you're doing, you're putting
money behind it. Whatever it is, Like, it's it's tough

(23:23):
to start a new podcasts for sure.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
That's kind of what I tell everybody.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
For there's all.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
People starting new podcasts. I tell them, like, you got
to treat it a hobby.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, this has.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Got to be something that you just enjoy doing as
a hobby.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Don't expect it to don't expect Yeah, you guys are great.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
The other thing, though, is you can't you can't treat it.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
I tell people you gotta get into podcasting. Man, this
is where the money is. Let me help you. I
will help you make that money. Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, yeah you have.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Once you start, you can't stop. Like, once you stop,
you will lose all of your momentum. You're off for
one week, Bye bye. Nobody gives a fuck anymore.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
It's the pringles of hobbies. Once you bop, you can't stop.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Chris were there like for the like larger streamers who
are like more intense, like Dawson talked about its friend
new drums they have like Booze, where like certain streamers
were like streaming from more stationary cameras.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
And stuff like that. Okay, so some of the things,
some of the amenities they had. They had streaming tables
for everybody where it was just like a table with
like a phone holder and a charger and like and
like all these like amenities just for you to just
sit at your table just around the floor and stream
and just like a nice place to stream with like
the good lighting and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
So you can stream from the Twitch convention and thus promoted.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
I could not stop thinking about the This is such
a ris machine, Like it's such a smart business plan
out the entire ex convention center and surrounding area just
based on everybody's.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah oh yeah, but essentially putting on They're putting on
a convention to get people to come to their convention
to use their product, to get more people to use
their product because they're going to be broadcasting with their
product from the convention for the product.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I want to how you guys do about this now,
because you are totally going to be like Gere's gonna
love this. Not everybody was there. A lot of streamers
are what we callvtubers and they are anonymous. But they
used a device called a beam to go around the
showroom floor and roll around. Can you know it's called

(25:39):
a beam. It is something you can operate from home.
It is like a robot on wheels with a screen
and you can roll around that. There were so many
of those just rolling around.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
I bet they rented it. That was That was one
of the one of the package istions. You don't even
have to twitch. Now we're just rent a robot.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
We are going to take a step back because I
want Gary to tell our listeners why he knows what
this device is good.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
I want to take anti anxiety medication. Jesus Christ. The
Beam is a piece of ship. I'm sure it has
come a long way. But in the iteration that I
knew about, I was responsible for bringing guests onto the

(26:32):
Adam Carolla Live shows via Beam. So we would announce,
for instance, that we were going to fucking I don't
know Denver and that Patrick war Version was guesting.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Okay, I couldn't remember exactly.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
You don't forget a thing like that.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
Certain things I've clearly blocked a little bit and then
out rolled Joel McHale on a like I don't know
with eleven inch generously screen this.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, yeah, let me reset a little bit farther back.
So this is I think this was a marketing issue.
So people who came to the Adam Krolla show to
see him in Seattle in like twenty thirteen, said Adam
curl Show featuring Joel McHale. But the way that we
had a plan that we were told was Joel McHale
would not never leave the comfort of his own home.

(27:28):
He would use this device called a beam which remotely
controlled this this screen, this TV on wheels where he
can control if it goes left, right, straight, and there's
a camera on him, and there's a camera looking V.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
I don't want anyone my age thinking of like the
thirty six inch tube TVs that they would roll into
your classroom when your teacher was sick. Okay, this is
not that. This is a six foot tall device that
has an eleven inch screen on.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
So it was like an eye like an iPad.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Mini exactly right now, maybe a little larger, but like
that's like.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
The quality was as good as an iPad.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Man, it was not. Let's just put it that way, okay.
And there's a speaker. There's a speaker right under this
little street so they can talk to you. They can
talk to you. Yeah, so this is a Joel McHale.
Joelichale joined them on stage in the case of a

(28:27):
massive live show at the More Theater. My god, oh
yeah no.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
I was going back to the to the Twitch con
thinking how annoying this would be about like a hundred of.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Them out there. It was annoying enough with go ahead,
so let's just say it was.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Yeah, you're in the balcony.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
You can call it a misstep of our show's history.
Don't find anywhere. And then and then that beam just
collected dust in the studio for a decade. Probably there
it's today, Okay.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
It probably is, and would I would walk by it
once a year there today?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Okay? Well anyway, so I was delighted.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I think they finally called the company and said, come
and pick this.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
Well they look the same now, Chris or have they
look identical?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah? I was delighted. So I see one roll by
and I just start laughing because of just that memory
of of how we misused it.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
By the way, like just to the point, Beam is
the only like technology company that hasn't updated their product
in eleven years.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Their hardware looks the same, the software must be different,
because I will say, now, the screen, So the screens
were just kind of like emo, what are those things
that Apple's is Memoji's Yeah, yeah, they're like virtual characters
that like all their facial tracking and you can just
talk them like, oh hey, what's going on? Oh I
like your I like your shirt? Oh thanks? Like they're

(30:06):
just choose your own. Yeah, well, they're characters that they
made because they're true. Did anybody pick anybody from guar No,
because I don't think anybody that age would ever understand
that reference. So it's gotta be huge fans bar guys. Yeah.
So they're like anime characters, they're virtual characters whatever. They're

(30:30):
walking around. Now, I'm seeing like three and I've seen three.
Now I've seen five, and they're every They're just rolling
around every I'm like, oh my gosh, this is a thing.
They're called v tubers. And then I swear I saw
one beam robot roll by and see another Beam robot like,
oh my god, you're here. And first it's like you're
here to wow, this is amazing, and I'm just watching
this happen in front of me and my mind is imploding.

(30:53):
So it was just and and uh and these are
these are live streamers, right, So Caitlin, there were meat
greets for these things, like there would be a v
at the and a huge line just waiting. I will
say me, yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Just to put a finer point on that, and then
talk to them like oh my gosh, an emoji yeah,
like through the beam, Yes, yeah, through the.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Robot. Yeah, it's like if Joe McHale did a meet
and greet after the show. Yeah, we should have done that.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Oh my god, we could have gotten in to do
that for two hours.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
So look, as I said, this is a world that
I'm not used to. But like these streamers, like when
they wanted to meet, these meat and Greek lines were
thousands of people along. I'm not like they went the
whole convention. I'm like, what is this line for. Oh
there's a streamer, Chris, Chris has gotten a little bit,
can you got?

Speaker 4 (32:00):
I mean, record, end it all?

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Record, it's a recorded, it's it's gonna mind. So what
I was saying was these these lines are thousands of
people long to meet these streamers to where it's're like
they were these huge events to where like if you
took like a movie, So who's the hottest movie start
these days, Matt, It's like what Sidney Sweeney for you says.
Sidney Sweeney was the corn room and it was and
it was like a streamer Wait was she there? No,

(32:25):
But I'm just saying nobody, nobody would Nobody would even
notice because these streamers were bigger than any celebrity, like
the way they they would treat each other. And I
will say the live stream community is very supportive. I
was relating to podcasting, like they all were like, oh,
follow this guy follows. Well, we're all friends, Like everybody
start this, and we want everybody to do this. We
want everybody communicate like this.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, it's a it's a Ponzi scheme. It's like fucking bitcoin.
The more you buy, the more money they make.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I don't I don't know the business of it, but
I will just say it's a very supportive community and
it was just fascinating.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
They need the whole thing to succeed for any of that.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, just the medium.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
A meet and greet with a robot. It may be
a meet and greet, but it will never be a
grip and grin.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
That's right. That's right. Yeah, and you know people need
to know that. But either way, they still had a
great time. And Okay, now I'm gonna just take a
step back, uh and just wonder, like there's a part
of me because as I said, I'm new to this
this scene right, like, is this okay? Everybody just has
their phone outs filming themselves talking to their phones and

(33:36):
just like and everybody's doing it. I'm like, is this what?
And I'm like worried. There's a part of me that's worried,
like about their their psychology, Like well, just because I'm
not used to it, right, I haven't seen it. So
it's just like, is this is this an instant gratification
that is just like are there communication skills being hindered?
Like and then I'm thinking, or am I just the

(33:56):
old fart that was like you know when parents were like,
oh that and Roll, that's the devil's music and we
can't trade for it. And then it's just like, no,
this is how people are going to communicate in the future.
We should embrace it and we should try to understand
it because there is no stopping this train like it
is it is going.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
I mean, can you just imagine week after week saying
things that you feel to the public and then letting
them consume that information.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I wouldn't understand.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Subscribe and then hear a week after week. Could you
imagine doing that.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
For like over a decade, for like five bucks a month.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
A week a month and make money off of it?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
If you live weird in your mom and dad's house.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
And you don't pay rent, and you don't pay for meals,
and you have this nice I mean literally probably a
fucking basement computer den awesome game on.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
You can you know I have a job.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I have a job five bucks a.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Month, That's right, something that I will say. And by
the way, when you introduce yourself to each other, it
was always the user name, of course, so it's just
that like, oh, hey, I'm Chris.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Oh I'm I'm mcdoodle lee, Like, yeah, exactly, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
No, it's not I'm Darth Maul your baby. It could
have been that. It could have been. There are a
lot of different names I could have chosen. Cho how right?

Speaker 7 (35:33):
So I think I think I still have a Twitch
account that is label Tower Shoes from when I was watching.
I think I could still log into it. Yeah, regardless,
this is.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Actually changed my mind.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
I'm now Darth mall of America's name Chris.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
How do you continue the interaction when you tell someone
I'm Chris and they say I'm dragging thor.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I power through, I say it's nice to meet you,
and I meet a very pleasant person because very very sweet,
very very sweet people like.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
I mean, yeah, that's that's that had to have made
it a lot easier. But yeah, that just seems like
a tough interaction the first.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
It is because I don't know, it's just once again,
it is a world I've been I've not been able
to stop thinking about it since I left. Like it's
it was just like a whole world that I didn't
really know existed in that way and as on that scale,
because we've been a podcasting stuff before. This was nothing
like that, Like and I thought podcasting was huge. I

(36:36):
mean it is huge, but it's just like this was
just it was eye opening.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
So anyway, well, I think that it's I think it's
a little bit of byproduct of the fact that like
most podcasting conventions, like yes, there might be some podcast recordings,
but like that's not what most of it is. Like,
whereas at twitch Con, like if you're going to go
to twitch Con, why wouldn't you stream it on Twitch?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Like it just sort of is so fulfilling. Yeah, he's
had to. Oh, I did run into some actual celebrities
there though, Uh, Jeremiah is Jeremiah and Zach k from
Love Island, Jeremiah Weed from the T shirt. No, no, no,
this just I don't know his last name is just Jeremiah.
Oh yeah, I was that. Oh very beautiful, very beautiful guys.

(37:23):
All right, well anyway, that was like, here's just a
cool experience that I don't Yes, if anybody wants us
to be on twitch, let us know if are we
missing out on something here, because if we should be
doing this.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
I'm actually, uh a just installed Twitch on my phone.
I'm going to go live on Twitch while we're recording
this at one point, Okay, I'm gonna get my fucking fifty.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Followers, so you look at that. We already got one.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
I want my five bucks.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
I want what's your what's your setup going to be, Dawson,
are you going to be two camera or are you're
going to be like showing them your zoom window phone?

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Just to me, don't worry about getting fifty followers. You
only need like six seven.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I love it, love it. That's pretty good dude. All right.
So before we uh start, patron, I do want to
do a quick this is how you remind me if
that's all right with you guys.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Hell yeah, dude, I send over a great clip. I
cannot wait, mad.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I'm sorry, it's not going to be that clip.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
This is how.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
This is.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
Right right right?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Okay, So once again, we haven't done this been a minute,
but this is just us going back into the archives
and listening to an old, an old episode of The
water cool and see, haws, have things changed? Have we changed?
Have our paint has changed? Have our thoughts changed? And
I will say that most of them haven't. In fact,

(39:15):
we have. There have been times where we've continued the
conversation after the clip as pretty much verbade them as
we did a decade ago.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
So this is a clip from our episode number ninety three.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Damney number was this this current episode?

Speaker 3 (39:34):
We're like four hundred from that? Yeah, this is a
plus Patreon episodes.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Too many, too many accounts, some would say, all right,
so let's listen back to episode number ninety three of
The water Cooler where klen Flick's movie.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
Gerald's Game as a movie that is based off of
Stephen king novel.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
That was like, it sounded fun until Stephen King's name
got thrown around there.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well, the movie is based on his books.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Are aw, he's fun.

Speaker 7 (40:05):
Yeah, so the movie stars Carla Gugino, thank you. Yeah,
I'm gonna pose things have not changed. Things have not
changed all that time.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay, well, here we go. Here's Carl Kaylen explaining Carla.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yep, you know her face if you've seen.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Her Amanda on Entourage, the hot agent that takes over Ferrari.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I like Carla. I'm fan.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
By the way, if you want to see Carlo's guginos,
if you know what I'm saying, check out Sin City.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
It's all over that one.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
All right, thank you, miss so I hear.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:40):
It was written and directed by Mike Flanagan, who did
Oculus Hush, which he is pretty good.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
That movie is awesome.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Okay, I'm gonna stop there. It is not awesome and
a big up to matter that Carla Gugina's joke it
got when I when I listened to it this morning.
Gotta be good. All right, A little bit clip left.
Here we go.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
The basic premise, which I don't think I'm giving too
much away here, is that a couple goes up to
a romantic retreat a cabin miles from anybody else, and
they start to get a little, uh, a little frisky.
The husband breaks out the old handcuffs to the bed.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
And it's frisky.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
He has a heart attack and dies, and she's there
stuck to the bed.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Don't watch it with your uh your parents or with
small children. Oh really incredibly.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Uh yeah maybe yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh it's graphic. I need to know this.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Uh the movie is flickable at seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
All right, man, I uh will not watch this movie.
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
I just goodness for me too extra time and you
want to watch it.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's not that I don't think it's quality or I
don't think it's a good story. I just don't have
that kind of stomach. I'll wike it. And I did
wiki it that right after that, and I.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Never told those reviews back in the day.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
There's there was some editing done. Oh okay, anyway, So
I thought it'd be fun to listen back to that.
Because for Patreon, our subscription service of this podcast, for
as little as five dollars a month, you get access
to the archive of Patreon episodes, add free episodes of
this and then a little bit more you get opportunities

(42:23):
for movie clubs and meetups and things like that. We
are going to watch Gerald's game and talk about it.
I can give you a little preview.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
There have been more than a few people who have
already watched this movie in anticipation of it, and they
have been sending me emails with their thoughts, and I
am more unhappy than I.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Ever had in my life. I am so glad I
don't have access to those emails. Yeah, so I just thought.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
Correct another way to say that mad. Yeah, comments are
going to be lit.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
I am not looking forward to it once again. But
I just thought, Okay, you know, well, let's let's before
we watch it, let's listen to what Kiln said about
it is that review. It stayed with me. It stayed
with me, and.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
The movie will too.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Don't worry And there is a scene that's exactly what
I'm worried about. It's actually, I thought you I thought
it was a word. There is a word that just
like makes the skin, my skin crawl, that had what what?
What happens in that movie? And I want to say
I don't want to say it. I don't even want
to say it. I don't want you to say it
is I feel like you should. Okay, well, I think

(43:30):
I know what I feel like.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
It's I haven't rewatched the movie. I'll tell you what
I haven't. I haven't watched the movie yet for the
movie Club. When I do watch it, I'm gonna be
on the lookout for that word.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah. Anyway, we're doing this next week, right, next week's
movie club.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Anyway.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
I'm gonna have a pretty busy week next week, guys.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Anyway, So I'm not looking forward to it. But you know,
rules are rules. It's fondleween, Yeah, it's fond Okay, Matt,
I'd made up a never made up a holiday that
I do this for maths made up holiday, all right,
now I'm excited. All right. Well, anyway, when't we go
around the horn, get our plugs in, and then we'll

(44:11):
we'll GTFU get start with our Patreon episode. I will start.
I will start, by the way, Jeralsey, I'm almost got
a six to seven. I will start over there in Austin, Texas.
Matt Fondelier, what can we plug for you?

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Well, we've been teasing it.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Patreon dot com slash water cooler the best way to
support us. It's really the second half of the show.
If you have enjoyed listening to us over the years,
please consider supporting us and checking out hundreds of episodes
you haven't heard. Getting the Inside scoop inside jokes.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Oh so good.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
All right, there you go for as little as five
bucks a month Calein what about You.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
I also want to second our Patreon and I just
want to tease that we might have a little treat
coming up for you listeners in terms of the Patreon
that we're working out right now.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Also, if you've ever been like ah, no, I can't,
I want to, but.

Speaker 7 (45:04):
Well it might be your time coming up soon, so
we might have a little something for you. And other
than that, I also want to plug m podcast with
my dad just falling about. We did an episode last
week based on Neil Blum camp scrapped Aliens movie and
it got a lot of attention on YouTube for one
of our full episodes. It's doing very well, so curious.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
It's like a.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Story that people aren't talking about. People like want to
hear about that scrapped I know.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
Yeah, And so my dad, you know, broke down essentially
what happened. You know, Neil Blumcamp, District nine director, did
a bunch of artwork for an alien movie and it
was actually talked about going into production. Uh and then
you know the artwork was so cool online it caused
a lot of chatter and then it just got shut
down and so my dad just tells everything he knows
about it. And yeah, a lot of people have been

(45:53):
watching the YouTube video of that episode, so if you're
interested as well, go to our YouTube channel and check
it out.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Well, yeah, dude, all rights, what about you.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I'm gonna be doing like ten or twelve minutes at
Flappers with Corolla on February twenty ninth, No August tonight
as this is released, which would be October twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
You're only planning ahead on that one man?

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah wow, and uh yeah that took me. That was
that was a cow gone moment. Not really, it really
wasn't a cowgone moment, but it did take me away.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Oh damn. Love it all right?

Speaker 6 (46:38):
And then Gary, so you pittreon dot com slash water cooler,
best way to support us.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
That's it, alrighty and uh, for me, I just want
to say thanks to all the listeners, thank you for everything,
and we'll see you last week with Patreon. We love you, goodbye.
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