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A judge has sentenced the person who wanted to murder a Supreme Court Justice to 8 years instead of the 30 that was expected. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
your day and you're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thursday morning, ninth day of October. I'm West Thanks for
joining me. I did yesterday's show and did not catch
the fact that yesterday was actually National Stomp Bullying Day.
Thanks to the person who sent me that pointed that out.

(00:31):
That is the topic for yesterday's show was AOC telling
her constituents and Democrats in general to bully Republicans, maga
Republicans and shame them and call them names and you know,
bully them effectively. That's not the word she used, but

(00:51):
that's basically what it was. To bully people and let
them know that they're in the wrong, that they're of
Donald Trump was wrong, and that they should you know,
bully away. Again, not the word that she used, but

(01:13):
definitely what she was going for as the pressure of them.
And we have this thing that we do now as
a country where it's become terrorism. And when I say
we primarily on the left, it's this idea of using
terror and fear tactics to get their way, even if
that means getting in their faces in the gasoline stations

(01:36):
and all those things Maxine Waters and others said. And
we've had actors talk about assassinating presidents and all that,
Johnny Depp and all. So that's the idea. And we
saw this play out on the most horrific of stages
as Charlie Kirk was assassinated not long ago, just weeks ago.

(01:57):
And we are still trying to figure out why the
rhetoric hasn't been dialed back. And if you'd like to
know how long some of this has been going on,
and when we reference it, we say, it's been, you know,
really cranking up over the past ten years. We just
had a court sentencing where we we learned that one

(02:22):
of the prime examples of this terrorism in a political sense,
we've seen an injustice take place with one particular like
high profile case and I want to dive into that
this morning. So go back to twenty twenty two when

(02:49):
this is the I guess it was May, and that
is when someone decided to leak a draft opinion on
the Dobbs versus Jackson's Women's Health Organization, which was basically
effectively the court case that was going to end up

(03:09):
overturning Roe v. Wade and this leaked whoever, and they
never found who did it, someone who clearly had a
motivation behind it, someone who clearly thought that by leaking
it they were going to have an impact on things.
I guess, I don't know. I still don't understand how

(03:29):
they don't haven't figured out who. Why don't we have
things in place for some of these leaks and some
of these unnamed sources. I think there should be inside
the government, there should be ways to track some of
this stuff. But anyway, that's not really the topic. The
person who did this, I think it's awful what they
did because they were trying to have an impact on

(03:50):
the case. And what happened then this, of course did
end up becoming the case. This draft of opinion led
to what was eventually the decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
So what happened is this is where we got to

(04:10):
a stage where people started protesting. They started again, we
got to heated protests in places, and we started to
get to this stage where there were calls to really
pressure the Supreme Court justices. And that's when this kid
in California, Nicholas Rosky, I guess is his name? I

(04:32):
don't like saying these people's names anyway, So I make
it a habit to not really say their name. I'm
going to say this name again in a minute for
a very specific reason. But this is a kid, effectively
at this time was working at not a child. I
don't know how old he was at the time. It

(04:52):
was in California, wasn't happy about the league, and apparently
was just such a supporter of abortion and Roe v.
Wade that he thought, well, there would be something that
I could do to stop this, and maybe, you know,
maybe I could have an impact on it. And there

(05:13):
was a series at the time of dosing things like
locations and homes places that the Supreme Court justices and
different politicians were going to be at times so that
people could harass them. That was what we were being told.
This is so that you could get out there and
harass them, but it also greatly put them in danger.

(05:33):
So this Rosky planned flew from California and got near
the home of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and basically like social

(05:54):
media posts and everything about plans to do this, the
assassinating of Brett Kavanaugh, that was the plan to kill him.
I took ammunition, lock picking tools, crowbar, duct tape, pepper spray,
zip ties, hiking boots, pistol light, and I say tactical

(06:14):
knife and basically, oh, and the hiking boots had specially
padded souls to make it easier to move around inside
the home without drawing any attention. Justice Kavanaugh, by the way,
isn't a single man. He's married and he has two kids,

(06:36):
both teenagers. So basically the idea was that when he
and he got there and his plan you know, was
too he laid it out in social media posts and
law enforcement was there and he was seen. So he

(06:58):
basically at that point called a nine one one himself
and told them that he had planned to kill Justice
Kavanaugh and that he was suicidal. Arrested, and basically he
has been in jail for three and a half years,
and he was finally sentenced late last week after a

(07:21):
guilty plea in Maryland US District Judge Deborah Boardman, a
Biden appointee. Okay, so thirty years is the normal sentence
for something like this. When we start talking about things

(07:42):
and we want to say that we had an insurrection
that was trying to take place in the capitol on
January sixth, when we hear that word insurrection, which was
a word that was specifically being used in a very
brainwashing type manner. It was like, this is what we're

(08:03):
going to say, so that if we can plant this
seed of insurrection. There's people that still use the term.
They ignore the fact that there were federal officers that
were there posing as citizens. I don't know that there's
been a lot of explanation yet on what they were doing,
why they were there, why they were dressed as like
Trump supporters or whatever, what the specific role was inside

(08:26):
the Capitol building. They would argue, I'm sure that they
needed to be there for safety and protection. But if
it's two hundred and fifty or whatever the amount was,
that's a lot of extra people. When you look at
the number of people that were just kind of casually
walking around, and you throw in an extra two hundred
and fifty that were actually not citizens or citizens, but

(08:50):
not just average citizens. They were there, you know, federal agents.
So we start throwing around this term of insurrection. It
was an insurrection, it was an attempted insurrection. So there
were a couple of things to go with this that
I feel like we should mention. First of all, let's

(09:11):
go back to remember when an angry mob tried to
break through the fence at the White House to kill
President Trump. They wanted to break through the fence. He
wouldn't come out. I don't even know that he was there,
but I think he was there, wasn't he because he
did end up going to the church Trump was. They

(09:34):
wanted to get him. They wanted to drag him out
by his orange hair and kill him in the lawn
of the White House. All those things they said, which
sounds to me like an insurrection. They wanted to assassinate
the president of the United States that has a You know,
if an angry mob of people is trying to do that,
that to me would fall under insurrection. But what they

(09:56):
did was they set a church on fire in an
attempt to try to draw Trump out, and then I
think Trump ended up going to the church. And at
least in the coming days, once things were settled down
and there were issues, there were people that were angry.
I know, people that were angry. They used smoke bombs
and tear gas on these people. They were peaceful protesters. Outside,

(10:19):
there were people angry that they shut this angry mob
down that wanted to assassinate President Trump. I know people,
I can think of one right now. I see the
face of this person angry. How dare they use some
displacement tactics to get these people away from the White House?

(10:42):
And they wanted to go inside and yeah, no real
talk of insurrection there. It was they wanted to overthrow
the president. That's what they wanted to do. They wanted
to kill him and take his life. Then we have
this example of someone trying to bully, scare, intimidate, even

(11:03):
kill a Supreme Court justice who was part of this
obviously now very important ruling. Imagine what takes place if
this assassination happens. Joe Biden then gets to decide who
the next Supreme Court justice is. It would have had

(11:25):
an impact on the outcome of that election. It would
have changed the outcome, not the election, on the outcome
of the verdict by the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So what.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Almost happened was it would have been very very Charlie
kirk esk. Don't you think of people celebrating Justice Kavanaugh
being killed? We would have just seen all this sooner.
There would have been a celebration of him being killed.
There would have been a celebration of Donald Trump being
murdered at the White House, there would have been people celebrating.

(12:02):
Don't kid yourself the fact that we saw a celebration
over a healthcare ceo, United Healthcare ceo murdered. We still
see celebrations of that. I saw a guy walking around
at DRAGONCN dressed as Luigi Mangioni, except wearing a Mario
Super Mario Brothers Luigi hat. That's not representative of all

(12:24):
the people at Dragon con, by the way, They're not
all horrible. Just this one guy. Just this one guy,
and maybe a handful of people who went woo you know.
I don't know if they were woohoo in because he
was dressed as Luigi from the game, or celebrating the
murder of a human being that had nothing to do
with them or the guy that murdered him. I don't know.

(12:49):
I can just tell you that there are people who
would have celebrated Donald Trump being murdered. There were people
who definitely would have celebrated Justice Kavanaugh being murdered. They
would have celebrated at the The final ruling from the
Supreme Court on this case would not have been able
to play out the way that it was going to

(13:09):
and a new justice, a liberal justice that would have
tipped the balance of power in the Supreme Court would
have played out, which of course would have been justifiable
by many on the left. They would have said, well,
this is what we needed to have happened. Good for
this guy or is it a guy? You see, that's

(13:31):
part of what happened here in this ruling. You see
Rosky is it Rosky decided that while in captivity, while
in prison it was now going to had gender dysphoria

(13:52):
and was changing his gender. And that was part of
I guess the ruling. There was some sympathy that played
out here by this judge and now going by another name,
is it Sophie. So yeah, you got somebody who is

(14:14):
now living as a woman, and they decided, well, thirty
years is a bit much, so we're going to drop
this down. We're going to drop it down to just
eight years instead of the thirty year sentence. So yeah,

(14:34):
and this is what's now And if you've heard any
of that, and this is the other part of this,
because we all saw this story when it was playing
out and it happened. But what's interesting about it is, yeah,
now that you hear the story. They don't refer to

(14:54):
this as he. This is now either a they or
female pronouns, which is apparent his preference. I guess it
was even presented to the court that yes, Roski's mother
now recognizes the change in identity as far as gender,
and yes, now going by of they them or she pronouns,

(15:17):
she her pronouns. So this is basically something that easily
would have tipped the scales. And I don't know how
attacking one of the one of the governing bodies in
our country, our Supreme Court, right, this is our whole

(15:37):
checks and balances, our balance of power. And if you
go after the Supreme Court, you go after the judicial branch.
How is this not falling under the category of an insurrection?
Even just trying to intimidate them, What are they thinking
when this guy is outside Justice Kavanaugh's home? And why
why was he there? We know why he was there,
but again why because there had been some push, some

(16:01):
influence somewhere saying remember his confirmation. He's a terrible human being,
He's dirt, he's awful, he's the worst thing ever. He
took a sip of a beer when he was sixteen
or eighteen or whatever it was in an area where
that was allowed. But he must have had a drinking problem.
And we had one person that came out and said

(16:22):
he did some horrible thing, and there were no other witnesses,
and even the one person who was accusing him didn't
really remember the story, doesn't even remember what happened. But
we're just supposed to believe that we were told over
and over again he was a horrible person. That would
have justified it. Right if you're this rosky guy, wouldn't
you have felt, well, maybe this guy needs to go.
He's about to He's a terrible pert. Why did he

(16:44):
pick on him specifically? Was that just the easiest one
to get to? Was that the justice who was docksed
most frequently or had a home that was most easy
to get to from California? I don't know, but I
do know thankfully, the police were there, they were ready,
they were doing their jobs, and this did not change

(17:07):
greatly the way that America would things would have played
out in America over the past a couple of years,
because this would be a very different America had he
been murdered and his family had been killed in their
homes in the name of trying to overturn a ruling.
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At the opposite end of the list are Hawaii, California, Massachusetts,
New York, and Alaska. Alaska kind of surprises me to
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It all makes sense, doesn't it. I don't know about Alaska.
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is emerging with some gen Z and young millennial men
becoming what are called stay at home suns or trad sons.
They live rent free with their parents and take on
chores like cooking, cleaning, and running errands in exchange for
room and board, some even launching brands about it. With

(22:18):
rising inflation and a tough job market, housing crisis, all
the things we've been dealing with for the last five years,
many young adults choosing comfort and security at home over
struggling to make it on their own. However, experts warn
that the arrangement should only be a temporary, transitional one
rather than a long term plan, to which I think

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many of those trad sons are saying, why don't you
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dishes over here. Survey found that eighty four percent of
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Halloween season. Most people watch five different scary movies this
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Forty six percent say that watching a scary movie puts
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I think is probably the way that was supposed to
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favorite movie genre, no matter the season. Sixty eight percent
enjoyed horror movies when they were a kid. Seventy three

(23:24):
percent say they still enjoy them today. Sixty five percent
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The FAA already trying to figure out how to safely
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This will be an interesting new problem to have to solve.
Politicians in California have just passed a new law regulating
the volume of commercials being shown in streaming services, as

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in how loud should the commercials sound on your TV,
while requiring platforms like Hulu and Peacock to make sure
that the ads don't blast louder than the shows themselves.
Federal laws like this are already in place for broadcast
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closing the loophole that was still open for the streaming companies.

(24:53):
How about here the ads blasting you. I want to
make sure that's not happening. I don't want it blasting you.
Please let me know, not for regulation reasons, just because
it's not something I've ever really thought about. I don't
hear it when I'm listening, but I'm just curious. I
don't listen on all of the streaming services all the time,
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I like it. Ready for that to come to the

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other phones as well. All right, that'll do it for
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