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Some Dems are recognizing that siding with the "crime stats are down" crowd isn't what most Americans want to see. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
your day. You're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Thursday morning, fourteenth day of August. I'm West Thanks for
joining me. Were two weeks from dragon Con, a little
over a week away from the dragon Con Pregame Show,
dropping to I don't know about two hundred radio stations
around Georgia and on a podcast. Wherever you're hearing this podcast,
you can find the dragon Con Pregame Show podcast with

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guests like Katie Sackoff, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Longmire. We
talk about all those things. We would talk a little
about her appearance and not just an appearance. She was
in one of the Halloween movies, Resurrection, right before the
switch over to the latest trilogy of Halloween movies, and

(00:57):
we talk about that, and that'll be waiting for were
you there? Also Diana Lee and Asanto, who is the
goddaughter of the late great Bruce Lee and the daughter
of dan In Asanto, a martial artist and actor, and
she is the same and they are both from more
recently the Star Wars universe and some of the Star

(01:21):
Wars TV shows. And I don't know, maybe, just maybe
at least one of them will end up in a
Star Wars movie that's coming soon. I might even ask
a question or two about that of one of those ladies.
Other guests still to come. I told you I would
tell you once they're booked and done and all of

(01:41):
those things. Not quite yet, but in the works, very close,
very very close. May be knocking one of those out today.
May be able to tell you about that tomorrow, or
it may happen tomorrow and I may tell you about
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(02:03):
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who'll be at Dragon Con, and that interview is coming
to the Mate of Stars podcast in a couple of weeks. Actually,

(02:27):
we're going to release it early that week, so less
than two weeks away for that, So twenty third, twenty
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then also wherever you hear this podcast, and you can
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(02:48):
guests who will actually be there this year, like when
I interviewed William Shatner a few years ago, and he'll
be back this year for dragon Con. All that waiting
for you with the dragon Con Pregame Show podcast and
then radio show come and soon. Okay, now what I
want to talk to you about. We talked a little
bit yesterday and I guess we've discussed this a little bit,

(03:10):
this whole crime thing, this idea that crime is is bad.
Crime is one of those things. It's so interesting that
it always feels like the party that's in charge is
the one that's telling you things, like, you know, crime
stats are down, crime stats are great, boy, They've never

(03:32):
been better. And then usually the other side that's not
in power is the one that's saying, oi, crime is up.
It's everywhere, it's terrible, it's awful. And just in the
last you know, a little while, really over this past
week or so, We've had this weird thing that's happened
where the right, the Republicans and addressing crime specifically in Washington,

(04:00):
d C. Saying, hey, crime is bad. The stats may
show one thing, but what's happening to people in the
streets is another thing. And we've got people that are
being brutally killed or brutally you know, robbed or assaulted,
and we need to do something about it. And Trump

(04:20):
and his administration have said we're going to mobilize the military,
get them involved, We're going to step in, and we're
going to federalize law enforcement in Washington, d C. We
talked about that yesterday and I told you yesterday we
have this weird and what's happened now is you got
the left going but crime is down. Crime is so

(04:43):
down right now, it's just so so down. And then
you have Republicans that are saying, you know what, yeah,
but we still have problems and there's still issues with
especially violent crime in places. And one of President Trump's
big points of conversation about what's going on in DC

(05:05):
is it why can't we have a safe capital in
our country? Why does it have to be one of
the worst in the world When it comes to violent crime.
Why can't we be the safest country's capital in the world.
Why are we doing this? Which I think is a

(05:25):
valid argument. I think if somebody on the left had
said this, I think that it would actually be something
that both sides could go, Yeah, why not. Trump says it,
of course, And there's no chance that anybody's going to
in any way supported or defended, even if it makes sense.
We've also heard from you, Joe Scarborough, Morning Joe, that

(05:48):
there's a lot of Democrats who think there is a
serious crime problem in DC, but they don't want to
say it. They don't want to jump in take Trump's
side on it. And it's obviously career suicide, political suicide, whatever.
I don't know's that's what the feeling is there by
some Now I also really think that that's not necessarily

(06:14):
the case, because you know, we have a Republican president
who obviously won the electoral vote, won the popular vote,
and won by a significant enough and a significant enough
election that people should be looking and saying, you know what.
I know we've been telling you guys that he's the

(06:34):
devil when he's evil, but you guys obviously like him.
But they're not going to do that. That's not what
they're gonna do. They're gonna still, but I think they
could get away with saying, you know what, we do
want to be able to walk down the street instead. Publicly,
on the left, it's been well, let's go out and
let's hire some protesters to go into DC and complain.

(06:55):
Let's do that. And now we have this growing sentiment.
I guess that's now coming from the left as we're
hearing that some of the mayors in high crime towns

(07:15):
that are sort of he says, being picked on. One
of the voices behind this movement is the mayor of
Kansas City, Quentin Lucas. And guess what he says is
the real problem, That it's racism. That's right after the
National Guard gets deployed into d C and the police

(07:35):
gets federalized, then crime is the issue. And we've heard
during the press conference from Trump, I talked about some
of these cities yesterday, but Chicago and La Baltimore, Oakland,
others just cities being ravaged by crime. And Lucas says that, hey,

(07:58):
these are cities that have black men. And he says
this was during an interview he did on Kate boldwand
is that how you say her name? I don't know.
I'm CNN on her show. He says, I won't say
that that's the totality of it, but I absolutely think
it is. You're trying to create a counterpoint often in politics,

(08:21):
and what is a better counterpoint than Donald Trump and
whatever way you want to see him and a mayor.
Black women mayors have been the subject of a lot
of attacks. And he went on to talk about Karen
bass in La who, you know, let's be honest, not
really somebody you would want to put in the mayoral
Hall of Fame. Maybe you think she's competent, Maybe you

(08:42):
think she's done a decent job. You know, she's not
in the goat conversation, You're not going, Wow, this lady
just really has it together. This mayor is really putting
it on the world. No, And according to Lucas, he
says Trump and his desire to pick fights, he likes
to pick fights with Yeah, he says, and by the way,

(09:04):
this is one of the best fights fights to pick,
because what I have to sit in front of you
and say is, yes, there are homicides in my city,
Yes there's crime, but we don't think the same prescription
of help is necessary. It's a tough position, but I think, frankly,
this is the situation we're in, and it's not really interested.

(09:25):
He's not really interested in trying to save lives for us,
but just in exploiting the political issue. Exploiting political issues
has been a definitely right out of the playbook on
the left for a long time, whether it's allowing people
to come in the country, allowing people, moving people into
certain districts so that states and areas can you know,

(09:46):
bump up how much representation they get in there, because
that's happening, and that's been something that's happened. And obviously
as this battle over what's going on in Texas and
now California and Illinois is going on, Yes, it's a
lot of that has to do with, Hey, we've we've
put people in place for the census, even if they

(10:08):
can't vote, they help with the representation. That's all part
of the game. So don't let's don't pretend that there's
not sometimes a political issue to it. But my question
is this is this not because I truly believe that
what we've seen from our current and when he was
prior president is it's a president who doesn't like war,

(10:33):
doesn't like death, doesn't like to see people die. He's
spoken about that, I think with a lot of passion.
It's a lot of things that you could say he
talks about and uses a lot of hyperbole. I think
the desire to not have war, it's that's not hyperbole.
I mean, that's somebody who says and maybe he's using
that as a litmus to say, look, no wars started

(10:55):
during my presidency, and I can end wars, I can
create peace, I can do these things. Okay, you could
say that's all part of the you know, the Trump
talking points. But I genuinely believe he doesn't like to
see people die. I mean, he says when he has
these meetings and he's you know, he's going through this now,

(11:16):
but he's had these meetings with Putin and Zelensky, and
it's like, we have to stop people from dying. Can
we stop that? Why are we still letting people die?
Why is what's going on in Gaza? Like, let's stop
the deaths? Can we please just stop the deaths? And
we saw that when you know, there was a point

(11:37):
where we said we're gonna have a ceasefire, and then
Israel said, well, the ceasefire hasn't started yet, we're going
to just launch a bunch of stuff at him, And
He's like, what are you doing? You know, we're trying
to have this these peace talks. We're trying to have
a ceasefire so that we can save lives. So I
don't believe for a minute that Trump isn't really about
trying to save lives. I don't believe that at all.

(11:59):
So now more from the Morning Joe on MSNBC, and
I guess they had Chris Matthews on, who used to
be a host on and he basically says that democrats
are and this is the term he used, falling into
a trap of defending what's indefensible. It's interesting, isn't it
that this becomes it's political. It's well racist first, it's racist,

(12:25):
it's political, and it's overreach. It's all of these things
instead of really focusing on what the focus should be.
And you're hearing this from Chris Matthews and I guess
the rest of the show admitting this is a trap.

(12:45):
This is where you're going. He said, I think democrats
need to go beyond saying no, look at the data
crime is going down. I feel that is exactly the
wrong response politically, even if it's true. Yes, And it's interesting,
isn't it, Because if this is in any way political,

(13:06):
I think it may be that this is just a
convenient political byproduct because right now what we've seen in
this most recent presidential election and what we may be
getting ready to see midterm wise next year. And I
don't know, I don't want to get into that yet,
but is the fact that we have a lot of
the country that's done with this idea of woke, that's

(13:28):
done with this idea of we're going to inconvenience you know,
ninety seven percent of the country to benefit three percent
of the country in issues that the entire country should
have a say in. I don't think I have to
elaborate more than that. But in some cases we're talking
about less than one percent of the country for some

(13:51):
of these very specific issues. But if you're going to
tell everybody, by the way, half the country or females
and half the country is going to have to be
concerned about, you know, men competing as women in sports,
that's where you're taking an issue and you're saying look,
you know, less than one percent of the country is

(14:12):
more important than you know, fifty percent. Oh yeah, And
by the way, the rest of the technically I think
it's fifty one percent for women, but then the other
forty nine percent that are men that have daughters or
wives that you know, want to make sure they're able
to compete or you know, be a part of a
fair competitive nature. So yes, I think. And it's weird

(14:38):
because when you start seeing people like the hosts of
Morning Joe or Chris Matthews or Bill Maher, some of
these people starting to say things they're exactly right on
the money. This is a trap. They're falling into a trap.
And I don't know if strategically this was the plan.
If it is, it's brilliant because we have a lot
of the country that's basically now saying, look, we just

(14:59):
want some justice. We want people to feel safe. We
want people to be safe, not just feel safe. That's
the other part of all of this, right, this is
one of those games at the right and left. It's
a little battle where the left they want you to
feel like you're recycling is doing something. Conservatives will get
behind recycling. They just want to know is it being recycled,

(15:22):
is it actually doing something? You want to tell us
we're going to make a difference on whatever on carbon
and the and okay, tell us how this is going
to work. Explain to us how whatever we do and
spend billions on and trillions over however many years, how
is that gonna stop what China's doing or India is
doing or pack How's that going to fix what's going

(15:44):
on in Asia? And it's not, so let's stop talking
about it. Tell me how you know electric cars aren't
a bigger waste of resources than just regular cars. Explain
it to us so we understand it. We can get
behind it if you can make it make sense. And

(16:05):
I think a lot of people feel like, you know, okay,
you're telling us that we're safe, and then people are
getting mugged or we see the violence that happened in
Cincinnati and we go, is are people safe? Can this happen?
Can this happen to just you know, walking down the street.
Can it just happen to people? And granted, sometimes some
of these things have a director and you go, well,

(16:26):
we now find out, okay, this is what started it.
But some of these things that's not what it is,
and I don't know about you, and I actually like
to watch them, and maybe that's why my algorithm's all
jacked up. But it's just videos of people getting arrested
and the fact that so many people don't understand how
the police works because they're hearing from the media and

(16:49):
they're hearing from people on the left. The police are bad.
They're all bad. Oh, they're terrible. They're out to get you.
It's racism. And you see these videos and people are
screaming out the reasons that they're being arrested and it
has nothing to do with it. I don't know. Maybe
because you don't have any tail lights on your car
and you get pulled over, maybe because it's tenanted so
dark no one can see inside. Maybe because you were speeding,

(17:12):
and it's like, I don't have to show you my ID.
I don't have to. Yeah, yeah you do, you do,
you have to do that. But that's what the message
has been. I like those videos, by the way. It's
always fun, and I like them because usually you get
to see an outcome and there's some justice. That's what
we want. We want to see fairness, we want to
see justice. It's why we don't like the idea of

(17:34):
there being a bunch of people in the country that
aren't supposed to be here. My wife came in the
country legally, and we did all of the paperwork legally,
and she became a citizen legally. We don't like seeing
people trying to jump the line that it happened to us.
How much longer would have taken for her to get
all of her paperwork in order. Is it a complicated process, yes?

(17:57):
Is it more complicated than it should be? Probably? Was
it expensive, yes, but it made it worth it. It's
not just sneaking in and going we're just gonna hang
out here until we can have a kid, and they're going, oh,
they're gonna move us to this district so they can
use it for extra extra representation, some extra people in

(18:18):
Congress thanks to us. It's a trap at this point,
and I think if Democrats are still trying to rebrand
and still trying to figure out what they're doing as
they move forward, this is not the hill to die on.
This is not the place. We need some law and
order in these major cities. And I think, especially if

(18:38):
you're a mayor in one of these cities and you
want people to come visit. It wouldn't be a terrible
idea maybe to get some things in order before people
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies!

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