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July 23, 2025 • 27 mins
The idea of prosecuting Obama may sound good to some, but would it really fly?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Wednesday morning, twenty third day of July. I'm Wes, thanks
for joining me. I know I did a whole show
on it. I'm not going to do another whole show
on it. I just would like to point out the
fact that all the talk show hosts are all jumping
in trying to defend Stephen Colbert. Why how can they

(00:31):
silence his free speech? Why are they trying to silence
his politics by canceling his show? It's about ratings, and yes,
the ratings are probably greatly impacted by the fact that
half of the country, maybe even slightly more than half
of the country, have no interest in what you're selling.

(00:55):
You're selling You're peddling a product that half of the
country's says, I don't want to hear it. I'm not
going to tune in for it. I don't have any
interest in it at all. So then you got the
other half of the country. How many of them are
actually gonna watch? Apparently not many of them either. But

(01:17):
guess what you could potentially if the same ratio of
each half would watch. You could double your audience just
by trying to be funny. That's all you gotta do.
Just be funny. Don't come in with a political agenda,
don't treat it the way Letterman did and say it's
just it's too important now to be funny. We gotta
be serious all the time. Make goofy jokes about the Republicans.

(01:42):
You could double your audience. The other guy should think
about it, as they're jumping in to defend him and Nay,
I don't even know what the Daily Show is anymore.
But John Stewart showing up on Colbert's show and his
audience to make sure I know, and he says he's
worried about his show. You got one day a week.

(02:03):
You're doing one day a week, That's what John Stewart's
He retired and then he came back because honestly, him
doing it one day a week, I'm sure is better
than the other guy who was doing it every day.
Trevor Noah gotta be better than that. Remember when we
were in COVID and Trevor Noah was wearing he was
doing his show from home, and he would always wear

(02:25):
a big thick hoodie and everybody's like, why are you
wearing a hoodie? And he's like, cause I like to
keep my apartment really cold. I like to keep it
just icy cold, and then I like to wear comfortable clothes.
This is coming from the people who say that the
earth is on fire and that we have to fix
the climate, and he's cranking up his ac so he
can justify wearing a hoodie in the summer anyway, tangent.

(02:48):
But my point is John Stewart's worried because it's the
same ownership paramount that made the decision to get rid
of the Stephen Colbert Late Show. Do I say the
Colbert rapport, No, the Late Show? And yeah they might
maybe they will get rid of the Daily Show. Does
the Daily Show need to still come on? I don't know.

(03:10):
Does it serve a purpose anymore? If the viewers aren't there,
does it serve a purpose? I think that's part of
the question that we should all be asking ourselves. But again,
I'm not gonna do a whole show about it. I
just wanted to point out the fact that they're still
whining and they seem to think that this is solely
about politics, and it's not solely about politics. This is

(03:31):
about ratings, and this is about the fact that your
politics is driving away the ratings. It's just the reality.
This is what's going on, and you're gonna have to
accept it. And these guys really need to think long
and hard about maybe just maybe, maybe Jimmy Fallon could
just go back to Hey, We're just gonna do silly
stuff on TV. We're gonna play dumb games where we

(03:54):
sing songs and I don't know, fart on microphones or
whatever they do. I don't even know. It's been so
long since I've watched any of those shows. So anyway,
I do want to talk a little bit about more
about this. We talked about Tulca Gabbart and her basically
releasing all these documents, and apparently there's supposedly thousands of documents.

(04:14):
There's a lot of evidence where according to the evidence
that we will, I guess see over time, there is
some hints and inklings that yes, Barack Obama could be
the ringleader. And a lot of people are pointing out,
you know, he made this statement about Trump. No man's

(04:36):
above the law, not even the president of the United States.
You've just got to wonder if that one could come
back to bide him. I've said before that you play
this dangerous game when they prosecuted Trump as a former president,
when they said, we know we don't do this, but
for this particular case, for this this particular person, we

(05:01):
are going to justify breaking this tradition, breaking this trend
of not prosecuting a former president because we hate this
guy so much. We're so afraid of him and what
he might do were he to win the presidency again.
Just fear and just terror at the thought of him

(05:24):
winning the presidency again. I think we might have figured
out one of the things that they were afraid of.
So I said months ago, this is the danger that
you run into. This is the danger of prosecuting a
former president. Because now any of the former presidents who've
done anything that crossed any lines should be nervous. I mean,

(05:47):
it's one of those deals where, to quote the great
Robert van Winkle aka Vanilla Ice, if you're gonna go
after this isn't the quote, but you're gonna go after, right, then,
then here's the quote, and you better hit bullseye. The
kid don't play. They didn't hit bullseye. They just kind

(06:08):
of winged his ear. Right. They just got him in
the ear lobe, that's all they did, or above the ear,
wasn't even the ear lobe. They got him on the
top of the ear, just right over the top. That's
all they did, the metaphorical ear lobe, if you will.
Just they took off the very top of his ear,
and that's it. And he wins. And now now Tulsa

(06:33):
Gabbert has the documents and is going, all right, well,
let's start dishing these around. Let's take a look at
all this fun stuff we got about Barack Obama van
and the ring leader on the Russia hoax, and a
lot of people saying, well, sounds like some of his behavior,
if it's true, could be considered reason. It's a big word, right,

(06:59):
they were. There were some calls for prosecuting Trump for treason.
You remember that, they said, oh, Trump is uh been
treasonous because he didn't do enough to try to stop
January sixth. That's the behavior of somebody who's trying to
take over the country and overthrow the government, and he

(07:20):
is treasonous, try to instill a new government whatever. I
don't know, he's a he's treasonous. That means he could
be executed. That's what they were saying. They wanted him
executed for treason, because you know, you go back into

(07:40):
the old documents, the early days of the country, that's
what they did. Right, if you were convicted of treason,
they could hang you in the town square. And people
were calling for that. Let's get Trump, Let's hang him
in the town square. Now there's this talk of treason
in Barack Obama, and I know he's not going to

(08:04):
be executed. That's not going to happen. They're not going
to do that. We're not going back to old school.
But if you were calling for it for Trump, I mean,
to be fair, if someone was convicted of treason, you'd
have to call for the firing squad, right, take Obama out,
put him in front of a tree or whatever, and

(08:25):
the ten guys shoot at him and only one of
them's got a live bullet. No, no, they're not going
to do that. There were people who wanted it for Trump. Sorry,
I don't want it for anybody, and I don't think
we need to prosecute former presidents. But in fairness, they

(08:47):
did just prosecute one for nothing for mislabeling a document
in his logbook in his journal a business that they
said it was really a campaign expense. We're gonna make
this a felony. We're gonna come up with an excuse
to prosecute him as a felon because the statute of

(09:09):
limitations on what he actually did, that's that's long gone.
We can't prosecute him for that, for that misdemeanor. We're
gonna make it a felony to make it worse. So, yeah,
calls for you know, he's he's gotta be properly sentenced.
You know, he's got to be he's gotta what he
gets out of jail. They gotta throw I mean out

(09:31):
of the White House. They gotta throw him in jail.
They had to delay it because he won again and
they were like, what are we gonna do? So when
he was sworn in, they made sure that he was
officially a felon. So they came with that part of
the sentencing. Right, they came in and they said, all right,
we're officially gonna label him a felon. What happens if
Barack Obama becomes a felon? Can we do that? Do

(09:54):
you think we can survive that as a country. I've
asked that question many times before, back when remember back
in the early days to like twenty fifteen. It was
probably even before that. Trump was running around saying Barack
Obama wasn't even born in America and he had a
fake birth certificate. That seems like a lifetime ago, doesn't it.
But remember when he used to make that accusation he's

(10:15):
not even an American citizen, which again just shows the
at the time at least or he was just going
with the flow, but a lack of understanding about the
way citizenship works. One of your parents is an American citizen.
Guess what doesn't matter if you were born somewhere else,
it's different than it is here. You come here, you're pregnant,

(10:39):
you hide somewhere until you have the baby. Well, then
you're set. You're all good. Starts starting in your paperwork
for benefits. You know you can just do that right away,
not necessarily the case going the other direction. You could
be born outside the country, doesn't matter if he weren't
born in Hawaii's an relevant thing. This came up about

(11:01):
Ted Cruz, It's come up about John McCain. It's silly.
It's a silly conversation. It does not matter. Your parents
are American citizens. A parent is an American citizen. You
got that period. It was a silly conversation, but we
had all this talk about, oh, once he gets out
of the White House, if he surrenders the White House,

(11:24):
that Barack Obama he's never gonna leave, then they need
to prosecute him. If he lied saying he was an
American citizen, that he was born in Hawaii, this fake
birth certificate, he's producing all those things. And I remember saying, then,
we can't survive that. We can't survive taking the first
black president, mixed race, black president. There's different ways we

(11:49):
define it now. At one time it was easy to
just say first black president. But there's a lot of
Black Americans going, wait a minute, you had a white parent,
you hat a black parent. Let's be He always says,
let me be clear, let's be clear. He's mixed race,
he's biracial, right, Patrick Mahomes right, there's nothing wrong with that. Great,

(12:12):
it's who he is. Be proud of who he is.
We just did this with Kamala Harris. Sometimes she was black,
sometimes she was Indian. Sometimes she spoke with a Southern accent.
She played the game, but there's nothing wrong with it.
Was so much of the country is biracial. It's fine, mixed, multiracial,

(12:32):
it's fine. Let's call it what it is. That's what
a lot of Black Americans are saying. Let's call Barack
Obama what he is. Could we survive it though, prosecute him,
throw him in jail. I remember back then thinking in
twenty sixteen, there's no way, there's no way we could
do that. Twenty seventeen, this, there's no way we could

(12:52):
survive it. Think about what it would look like. Think
about what it would look like to a lot of Americans. Now, Oh,
there's a lot of Americans that voted for him. They
don't like him anymore. A lot of people are over it.
I don't think that we could justify putting him in
jail and just expect everybody to be fine with it.

(13:14):
You're going to have a huge First of all, he's
not going to jail. That's not going to have it anyway.
They're talking about prosecution. They talk about this stuff all
the time. We've talked about Epstein files, we've talked about lists,
we've talked about all and it just never pans out,
does it. They had p did he dead to rights?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Didn't they?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
We all knew that they had oj dead to rights?
What is the justice come? Because it does seem a
lot of people managed to dodge it. But anyway Trump,
they got him, prosecuted him, had him found guilty felony.
All he did was make a tacks, make a filing

(13:53):
error on his paperwork. That's all it was. Wasn't anything
more than his bookkeeping. A bookkeeping error they turned into
a felony. And I guess they probably go, well, why
did he go to jail? It didn't really wasn't fair.
So now they've got evidence apparently that says he's the ringleader.
He says it's a distraction. Barack Obama did. He's released

(14:14):
a statement that there are these allegations are just a distraction.
It maybe, I mean that tends to be what we do.
I would like to think that we could cut out
this string of let's prosecute former presidents. It just seems.
But if he's guilty of treason, if he's guilty of

(14:38):
trying to overturn the will of the American voters, if
he is truly a threat to democracy, I mean, they
should at the very least bring it all out in public.
Even if they don't prosecute him and threaten to throw
him in jail, they should at least air it out,
let everybody know what he was doing, let everybody know

(14:59):
what he would up to. I mean, doesn't that make
more sense at the very least. I just don't think
they could throw him in jail. I don't think they
could take him to the town hall and shoot him.
I don't think they could do that. Be awful. They
can't do that with anybody. We don't do that anymore,
not in the town hall. That's not what they do.
Death penalties are different now. They can't give him the

(15:21):
death penalty. They can't do that. They got to think
about how far they're willing to go with this though,
if they're going to call it treason, They got to
think about how far they're going to go with it,
if they're going to try to prosecute him the first
black president of the United States. Oh still doesn't feel right?
Does it felt terrible? Back in twenty seventeen, it really did.
It was like, Oh, it's a very different time eight

(15:44):
years ago, though, wasn't it. It's a lot different now.
A lot of people don't like him anymore. A lot
of people are fed up with him, a lot of
Democrats don't like him anymore. But they're not going to
let him get prosecuted, not without screaming cries of racism.
They're not going to do it, not going to allow
it to happen. And I just think that, yeah, the

(16:04):
public should know what was going on behind the scenes.
But these people calling for prosecution, these people calling for
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