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Tuesday morning, twenty second day of July. I'm Wes, thanks
for joining me. Got a little sleep. Jet leg still
haunting most of the household to some capacity, but we're
starting to get there. Finally actually slept through the night,
so that's good. Got that going for me makes a
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big difference. When you get a decent night sleep, I
usually still get up early anyway. It's not like you know,
I'm gonna sleep till noon or anything. And I think
that's part of what's going on when we're trying to
readjust things, and getting up two am to go to
the bathroom and to eat has just been a giant pain,
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because definitely, even if I can fall back asleep in
an hour or two, I'm probably gonna get up pretty
early anyway, five or six, so it's not really much
time to go back to sleep, and then I just
start going. Well, I can start working. But last night,
at the very least I got a decent night's sleep.
Hopefully I can put together a string of a few
decent nights of sleep and start getting this all reset
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and not be starving at two in the morning. That's
the biggest thing. The hunger, the bathroom schedule, all those
sorts of things when you and there was a period.
Maybe this is falling under the TMI, but I'm of
a certain age now where you get up to go
to the bathroom during the night, you have to do
it a couple of times. I haven't really been doing
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that much lately. I don't know why. I don't know
if I've just figured out my you know, when I
can stop drinking water for the day or whatever, and
that certainly makes a big difference. But if this sort
of jet lag phase of things, bodies going, you're supposed
to be awake, now, let's go to the bathroom. So
I've been having to get up to do that, and
I've actually had a decent night, got through the night
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without having to do that. I got through the night
without needing to wake up and eat something. Trying to
figure out what's a good idea to eat if I
go right back to sleep again, that's also the challenge.
I really try not to eat right before bed anyway,
so I definitely don't want to eat in the middle
of the night. When I'm going to go back to sleep,
all those things at play. But as I said, finally
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got a decent night sleep. Think things are improving. So
something that I haven't had a chance to talk about
yet is the announcement that CBS is getting rid of
their late night programming, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
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A couple things about this, and I feel like I
should start with I think what was the beginning of
the end of this show, because there's a moment that
I feel like sort of set the tone for late
night TV, and it began a trajectory that eventually comes
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to a point where this particular show on this particular
network will be going away. And by the way, there's
still months to go on it. It will end May
twenty twenty six. Not an immediate cancelation. It wasn't that
they just they gave a date where they said this
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is going to go away. So here's what we've got
and here's the overall big picture of where I think
this all started. So when I was a kid, I
used to love to stay up and watch Carson. Watching
Johnny Carson was a big influence on me. Eventually getting
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to this point where I decided I would like to
work in broadcasting. Johnny Carson was one of those ultimate
showman when it came to being a talk show and
being a host. He was Midwestern guy and he knew
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how to do the job as a broadcaster. He was entertaining,
he was funny, he was he didn't punch down, and
when he did politics, it was something that everybody could
watch and enjoy and laugh. That's what he did. That
was the show. Very quick witted, very funny. He had
his quirks, He had his little things that he did
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every night. A lot of those were emphasized by Dana
Carvey on SNL when he would do Carson. Those sort
of things became the stereotype of Carson. But you knew
what you were getting every night. It was consistent. And
then there came a point where I could stay up
a little later and I could watch Letterman, and I
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fell in love with that show, with that format, with
the things that they were doing there. It was very
much again a guy who had a broadcasting background, but
he was doing things that most people wouldn't have allowed
him to do on TV. Outside of being on after midnight.
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That show was on twelve thirty to one thirty, and
when I had the opportunity to stay up and watch it,
I would, And the older I got, by the time
I was in high school, it was much very much
something that I had to stay up and watch every night.
I did love the show. Thought he was incredible as
a host as a broadcaster, because at his core, that's
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what he was. He could do tough interviews, but he
could also put up with the sort of generic things
they had to do on those shows where he had
somebody come on and just promote whatever next project they
were working on was. But he was also the guy
that was finding weird ways to be funny, and weird
characters that he and he came up with, and all these,
you know, all these different camera angles on the show,
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and silly things throwing cards and pencils through the fake
windows and all of that. All of that was interesting
to me, And by that point I certainly was at
a stage where I thought, I would like to do this.
I would like to have a talk show. I would
like to interview celebrities or whoever do interviews athletes. I
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would like to do this. This is what I would
like to do for a living. And I made up
my mind as a teenager, this is what I want
to do. And it was largely based on those two guys,
and Letterman made fun of whoever was in office at
the time. They were the president, he made fun of them.
If they were a high profile politician working for one
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party or the other, he made fun of them, because
that's what you do. He made fun of the company
that he worked for. He made fun of everything because
that's what he did. And he had fun with it,
and you enjoyed it. You were in on the joke
and you knew he was probably making people cringe a
little bit, but he was popular enough that he was
making the money, so they didn't care. So there came
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to the point where Carson tired. Everybody thought, well, Letterman
will move up. The infamous story of Leno taking the
show away from him and working another angle on it
in NBC not doing the right thing, and it was complicated,
I get it, but Leno had the NBC job. Letterman
went to CBS and started doing his show at eleven thirty,
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made a few changes, made it a little bit more
appealing as an overall audience, and at the time CBS
had football as a lead in for programming it was
going to be easy. They were going to be able
to work that angle as far as being able to
really hold an audience. And then some changes happened with that.
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There were some flip arounds and things that happened, and
then ultimately there was a point where Leno took back
control of the ratings for nighttime and Letterman show was
still doing okay, but not where they wanted it to be,
and there were times he would have bigger but overall
Leno kind of won the day. Leno was much more
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like Carson. He was just doing jokes. Whoever the president was,
He made fun of him. I didn't watch him. I
was a little bitter. I liked Letterman, and I thought
the whole thing that happened Letterman got shifted well that
there was a point after nine to eleven where Letterman
started to make this shift, this cosmic change in what
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he was doing on his show, where the pot you
could start to feel a political lean and then eventually
a full on political even mandate. There was something there
that wasn't there before. And at some point in his
career he was interviewed and he said, I just decided
after nine to eleven that this was more. It was
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more important than just telling jokes. We couldn't just tell jokes.
Politics was important. There had to be that side of it.
That's the moment. It's the moment for me where things
started to change. I was such a fan I could
continue to watch him and ignore the politics most of
the time, but sometimes it was And there was a
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phase in all of that where honestly I wasn't as engaged.
I wasn't covering politics. It wasn't as big of a
deal to me, even if it made me a little
uncomfortable at times. Well, by the time Leno and Letterman
were gone, you had Kimmel, then you had Fallon, then
you had Colbert and Seth Meyers. I guess is doing
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Letterman's old show on NBC, and at that point you
had this full and to be fair, originally Fallen wasn't
doing political jokes. That's not what his show was about,
and he started to take flak for it. There was
pressure for it to be some kind of agenda driven show.
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Kimmel like, there's been the joke for years that he
gets notes from a Democrat leadership like Chuck Schumer sends
him over a list of things that he can make
jokes about that's been a standard joke about what Kimmel's
show is. Obviously that's probably not true, but who knows.
Nowadays anything's possible. I guess Stephen Colbert came from The
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Daily Show, which initially was a very funny show. It
poked fun at everything to do with politics and what
was going on in the world, and then it eventually
got to the point where it became very agenda driven.
By the time John Stewart was there, there was a
clear agenda and message, and the people who came from
The Daily Show took their message on to other shows.
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Colbert initially was doing his sort of satirical take on
Bill O'Reilly and I know folks who were Republicans who
are conservatives who thought that was great. Ah, I love it,
And they didn't realize he was making fun of them.
That's what he was doing. He was taking shots at them,
and Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly and anybody with a
conservative lean. They just missed it. They didn't realize that
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they were the joke to him. Well, he ended up
getting the CBS gig and overall ratings started well. It's
worth also noting that in twenty sixteen, Donald Trump did
an appearance on the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon and
there was a moment where Jimmy Fallon asked him, Hey,
everybody talks about your hair. Can I rub your hair?
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And he sort of must up Trump's hair, got a
big cheer from the audience, big applause. One of those things,
one of those iconic moments, and it really should be
absolutely remembered as that because it has been a long
standing joke. What's the deal with Trump's hair? Is it
a comb over? Is it a wig? What's going on there?
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And he let Jimmy Fallon mess it up right there
on TV and it was clear, this isn't a wig.
This is a weird hairdo who it is, but it's
not a wig, It's not a piece. And he was
able to muss it up on TV. People loved it.
It was a big headline grabber. Well after the election,
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there were people who blamed Fallin for that. You humanized
Donald Trump, You helped him win the election by doing that.
You gave him that Bill Clinton playing the saxophone on
Arsenio Hall moment, and they hated Fallin for it. And
then Fallen eventually started to add some politics into his show,
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and again, you know which way it's leaning. And at times,
much like the others, it's mean. It's nasty, it's bitter,
it's not fun, it's not little jokes. It was mean
and that's what all of them do. And ultimately, when
a show that costs I think they said one hundred
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million a year for Stephen Colbert Show, for the Late Show,
and they said that with a one one hundred million
dollars per season that was its budget, and they said,
it's been losing forty million dollars a year. How do
you justify that for any length of time? How can
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you justify losing forty million dollars on something you're spending
one hundred million dollars on per year? Think about it,
how do you justify that? Obviously someone there in leadership
felt like the message was worth it. They had already
ended the Late Late Show, which was the show that
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came on after the Late Show. They'd already ended that.
That was finished. So there's this merger that's happened. This
this is I guess with CBS Skydance Media, and that's
the company who was getting ready to buy a paramount
gal eight billion dollar merger, and that it's all about economics,
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that that's the reason behind it. It wasn't about silencing in
the name of politics, according to sources, and that they
were going to give it time to finish its course
and let it run out through me. And there's people
at CBS saying otherwise, this is about politics. But I
think the two things kind of coexist, don't they, Because
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one of the things that happens when you make politics
your main focus of whatever your product is, you're alienating
half of your potential customer base. Think about what happened
with Anheuser Busch. Think about what happened when they decided
we're going to put an influencer who is a trans
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woman on our cans and allow this to be broadcast
out to the world, and it calls their target demographic
to say, what, I'm not drinking that even though they
weren't even they don't even have the option of buying
the cans. They just didn't want to have anything to
do with it. They said, how dare you not remember
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who your core customer is? And the core customer for
late night TV should be anybody who's up. But if
you don't want to watch the show, and you don't
have any interest in hearing your political candidate or party
or members of it constantly bashed. That's half of the
potential audience that's gone right there. Many of them, by
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the way, go to Fox News and watch Greg Guttfeld.
They're not watching any of these shows on at night.
I couldn't tell you the last time I watched one.
One of my really good friends in Australia asked me, like,
which of the shows do you watch? And I said,
I don't watch any of them. He said, well, I
typically watch Kimmel and I was like, I don't. He's like,
you don't like Kimmel and I said no, and it's
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got everything to do with politics. I'm like, is he funny? Sometimes? Sure?
Does he have the guests on that I would like
to see sometimes?
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Sure?
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But I can't sit there and listen to him do
jokes over and over again about the same five topics.
Just don't want to hear it. I don't need to
hear it. Those jokes to me aren't even that funny.
They're just mean. And it's not an attempt necessarily to
be funny. It's an attempt at some kind of propaganda.
If this is the message, and it's constantly there. There's
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moments where SNL kind of deviates a little bit, but
then they always end up coming right back to this
is what we do. We're certainly a mouthpiece for the left.
So they've alienated the audience, and then they're confused at
why the numbers are down, why the ratings are down,
why the advertisers are down, or whatever it is whatever's
causing them to lose this much money. So yes, you
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can say this isn't about politics, it's just about ratings,
But the low ratings have to do with politics, right,
I mean, it has to be what's going on there.
And then you got the other shows now saying, uh,
are we next? John Stewart speculating whether or not his
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job that he does. I guess now once a week
he's back on the Daily Show for some reason, and
whether or not that show may go away, and they
speculate that that's coming. Questions about whether or not the
tonight's show. It's a long standing institution. It was the
closest thing we had for a while to someone who
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would just sort of get up there, tell some jokes,
do some interviews and be done with it. But again,
Jimmy Fallon dared to humanize Donald Trump during an election,
and apparently they think that was enough to get people
to vote for him. Jimmy Kimmel working for Disney, he's
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probably safe. But the fact that there's even any questions
coming up about it, and if there's any justification at
any point for the fact that money's being lost on
these shows and that someone could be fired, where does
the audience for the Colbert Show go? It was the
smallest of the group, so it's not like it's a
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lot of people that are going to be moving somewhere.
But even if they split them, still not a lot
of audience to split up. Or are those people just
going to find something else to watch? Are they going
to wait and see what else is coming on starting
in May or June. So you can say it's not
about politics, I think the LITW Ratings probably is about politics.
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have a dog, you're probably aware of the fact, or
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a cat for that matter, but you're probably aware of
the fact that they have certain things that they don't like.
When you watch it on TV. My dog responds to
music in shows and movies that are setting a tone.
The music says something bad is about to happen. My
dog will look at the TV and sometimes get up
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and leave the room. He knows something bad's coming and
he doesn't want to be there for it. And then
sometimes something on the screen gets his attention. Maybe it's
another dog, maybe it's you know, something a little more happy,
and he sort of stares at the screen for a while. Well,
did you know, though, that dogs actually sometimes like what's
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on TV? And this is a study coming from Auburn University.
How about that says dogs not only watch TV, but
have clear preferences for what they want to watch. Researchers
found that a whopping eighty eight percent of dogs actively
watch TV and prefer shows featuring other animals. So if
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you got to leave the TV on for your dog,
maybe Animal Planet something like that, you probably don't want
to get involved with, you know, Shark Week, maybe that
might be a little scary. I don't know, maybe they
like sharks. You never know, It's always a possibility. I
also saw this is a study. It doesn't say where
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to the West Carrol Morning Show. Start it up and
leave it on in the house when you go to work,
and let it run all day interesting and then make
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apparently really like when you do that. Fast food drive
throughs are designed for a quick and convenient way. That's
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a kind of like the like and subscribe. I didn't
do that. I mean, I just did, but it's not
really what I was saying. I'm not playing subliminal man.
Fast food drive throughs are designed for quick and convenient
ways to grab some food. But sometimes fasts doesn't describe
the experience. In my house, we call it slow food.
What is this slow food? The version of Burger King
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in Northeast Australia in the city of Townville called Hungry Jacks.
Burger King name was already taken by someone, I think
in Sydney when Burger King decided to go to Australia
and they became Hungry Jacks. Anyway, Yeah, a perfect example
of slow food. On our experience there at one particular
location just took absolutely forever. Long lines, sometimes due to
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customized orders, slow down the lines considerably. A new survey
of regular drive through customers has led restaurant owners with
sometimes the slowest service, according to the survey, is Wingstop.
Close behind is Culver's Church's Chicken. According to the survey,
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drive throughs in California are the slowest overall and the
quickest drive through experience. Not gonna surprise you if you
live in the southeast or anywhere that has a location.
But Chick fil A on top. And a lot of
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they're fast. I would put them definitely the best overall
service through the drive through. To me, it tends to
be faster. Occasionally they mess up the order, but we
have very specific orders when we go there, and sometimes
the customizations might be a little bit off, but overall,
can't beat Chick fil A in their service. And then
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McDonald's often kind of known for being a little slow,
but according to the survey, they said it was second
for the quickest drive through experience. All right, So the
Superman movie has led to social media trend now with
people showing off this hope core saying they have done
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something positive. Shows a picture Superman and they tell something
positive that they've done. Well. Now it has flipped and
people are going in the other direction, taking the side
of Lex Luthor. So some of the memes will show
like one example was someone had a picture of Superman
and said they stopped my car to let a squirrel
cross the road, and then someone did the same thing
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with a picture of Lex Luthor I guess, played by
Nicholas Holt in this movie hit my car. Sorry, I
hit my squirrel with a car today. So been flashing
the good versus evil, getting both sides of the perspective
on that. So, I mean that's some fun, right. Finally,
when you answer the phone, do you say hello? You
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would think that's a pretty standard thing. Most people answer
the phone Hello, then the other person starts talking. Well, apparently,
I guess it starts kind of around gen Z. The
practice of answering the phone with a friendly hello goes away,
and apparently, this says start to catch on with people
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twenty eight and under because apparently, because of robocalls and
spam calls, when you actually say hello when you answer
the phone, that's what triggers the robo call to start
talking to you. So younger people fed up with it
will answer the phone but not say anything, and they
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wait on the person calling to actually say something first,
and if they recognize the voice then they might talk
back with you, or if you have something interesting to say,
they might talk back with you. Otherwise they just sit
there and breathe until someone says something interesting. Might I
also suggest what we gen xers do, which is just
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don't answer the phone if you think it might be
a spam call. If they leave a voicemail and you
want to call them back, then you can call them back,
or delightfully, you can text them. That's another option that's
sometimes on the table. But you think it might be
a spam called, don't answer it. You're just feeding it,
aren't you feeding the beast? That'll do it for this
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