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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'll go sure, all right, Kennedy, Thank you, Harold. Good evening,
Welcome to Washington. I'm Brett Bair.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
As Washington d C records its first murder in twelve days.
We ride along with US Marshall seeking the most dangerous
suspects in the district. There is about to be some
serious competition for the weight loss drug o Zempic. We'll
talk with the chief executive Eli Lilly in company, and
the leader of the Democratic Party tells his members they
should focus less on winning arguments and more on winning elections.
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But first breaking Tonight, President Trump using some creative language
to respond to the latest Russian statements indicating reluctance to
end its war with Ukraine. Also tonight, the President saying
he will reverse his firing of a Federal Reserve Board
member under investigation for mortgage fraud if a court tells
him to. After a long, long cabinet meeting, today, Senior
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White House corresponding Jackie Heinrich starts us off live on
the North Lawn.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Good evening, Jackie, Good evening, Grett.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
There are signs Lisa Cook's fight could go to the
Supreme Court, which took steps earlier this year. For tech
members of the FED from being removed without cause. The
alleged cause in Cook's case is going to be a
heavy factor in which way this goes. In the meantime,
President Trump is still in weight and see mode on
Russia sanctions.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It seems to have had an infraction, and she can't
have an infraction.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
President Trump says he's in discussions about who might replace
Lisa Cook on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors after
announcing her removal effective immediately, citing allegations of mortgage fraund
But Cook says she won't resign, and the FED today
says Cook will seek a judicial decision that would confirm
her ability to continue to fulfill her responsibilities as a
Senate confirmed member of the Board of Governors of the
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Federal Reserve System. As always, the Federal Reserve will abide
by any court decision. Trump's answer to.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That, I abide by the court.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, I abide by.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
As that fight toils on, so do conflicts Trump is
trying to bring to an end. Today, the President dismissing
protests from Russia's foreign minister that Moscow won't sign a
piece deal with Ukrainian President Zelensky who Russia views as
illegitimate matter with Steve.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Good answer, but I can answer to it doesn't matter
what they say.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Everybody's posturing. It's all okay, everybody's posturing.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Steve, you have a different answer.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I agree with you, sir.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Still, a Putin Zelensky summit doesn't seem any closer.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Russia, Ukraine and Iran Israel Hamas.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
We're having meetings all this week on all three of those.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Conflicts, and we hope to settle.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Them before the end of this year.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
That's a new timeline. The President said days ago he'd
know within two weeks if progress was possible or if
he'd need to pull the trigger on sanctions.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I want to see that deal end.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
It's very very serious.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
What I have in mind if I have to do it,
I'm talking about economic because when I can get into.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
A world war, president indicating it's not just Putin who
is resisting a.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Meeting, Zelinski is not exactly innocent either, Okay, you know
it takes two people to tango.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
After meeting with his military today, Zelenski pushed to accelerate
progress on developing security guarantees, which he would need to
build support domestically for any land concessions he makes in
a peace deal with Putin that might happen in that meeting,
indicating that the package of security guarantees from the US
and Europe just isn't quite there yet.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Brett Jackie had lots of news obviously in today's cabinet
meeting that was talked about there. It ran for more
than three hours, including the President appearing to dig in
on his plan to allow Chinese student visas big numbers.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
What do we know about that?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, Conservatives have pushed back on this plan, which would
allow six hundred thousand or so Chinese nationals into American universities.
Their concerns are over frequent corporate espionage and intellectual property
theft pushed by the Chinese Communist Party. The President said today, though,
if you take those students out of American universe, it's
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going to harbor the college system. He said, it would
be the bottom tier basically of American schools that suffer
the most. But all this comes after Secretary of Stint
Marco Rubio announced in May the State Department would be
aggressively revoking student visas for Chinese nationals with any ties
to the CCP or dealing with any sensitive materials.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Right, Jackie Henrick Love in the North Lawn and Jackie
thanks authorities here in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Confirming the first homicide in the district since the federal
takeover of law enforcement almost two weeks ago. Tonight, we
take you on an exclusive ride along with the US
Marshall's Service as it participates in President Trump's crackdown on
crime in the Nation's capital.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Of course, by Alexis mccadams.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Goes on patrol with a special team that serves warrants
for some of the most violent suspects here in the district.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Another night and more arrest in the nation's capital.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
We're arresting the same folks over over and over, and
that happens because they're letting them out faster than we're
gonna put.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Them in license. Our cameras rolling as federal agents took
these two men into custody accused of committing violent crimes,
part of the ongoing federal crackdown led by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's Trump and What's Virginia say direct.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
You're a US Marshall Service at GADDY Serralta, tasked with
spearheading the cleanup. What would you tell other people across
the city that think they might be able to get
away from you and your team.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh, they're not going to get away. What I would
suggest that they turned themselves in.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
This man accused of carjacking someone at gunpoint out in
Maryland asked why the agents were even picking them up.
After he says he'll just be back out in a
few days.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
The judges then're gonna say're gonna put him on a
three day who then once the three day hold.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Us up has to release me, they release me.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
It's the same thing, every the same thing, every time.
Now more than one thousand arrests and counting as a resident,
pushes to improve DC safety, rolling out local, state and
federal partners like the National Guard, and pushing for stiffer penalties.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
If somebody kills somebody into Capitol Washington, DC, we're going
to be seeking the death penalty.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And Brett.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
One thing I thought was interesting being here in DC
was some of those ride alongs in those bus that
we saw those criminals, according to police, wasn't too far
from where we are right now at the White House.
And listen to this. Nearly half of the people who
were arrested on last night's ride along were in the
country illegally, and one, according to police, was an MS
thirteen gang member.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Right Lexus mcadam's run for the White House, Alexis thanks
strong afternoon rally pushed markets near new records. The now
up one hundred and thirty six, the S and P
five hundred gained twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The Nasdaq rose ninety five.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
The Trump administration signaling it is planning to take stakes
in additional private companies following its deal with chip maker Intel.
Officials say they are trying to boost futures, sovereign wealth,
and enhanced national security. Here's Fox Business correspondent Lauren Sininetti.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Everyone said I bought a stake an Intel, No, I
get it for free.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
President Trump taking issue with a reporter question today asking
about what other companies the government is considering taking a
stake in. After last week's Intel deal. Commerce Secretary Howard
Lutnik defended the arrangement today.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's not socialism. This is capitalism.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
If you give someone eleven billion dollars, who's just building
in America.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
They're not doing something special the building in America.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
Lutnick also suggested this morning that the government could take
a stake in defense contractors, including Lockheed Martin, the company
saying in a statement to Fox Business, quote, we are
continuing our strong working relationship with President Trump and his
administration to strengthen our national defense. While shares of the
defense stocks closed hire today, analysts point out the industry
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isn't in distress, which observers say is what makes some
of the president's recent interventions more curious.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What's broken nothing.
Speaker 9 (08:01):
The American economy for two hundred years is the gem
of the globe. The private sector has been working with
the government for two hundred years successfully. We remain the
largest economy on Earth.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Not all of Trump's corporate involvement is on the American
taxpayer's behalf. He is also inserting himself into cultural controversies too,
writing Cracker Barrel should go back to the old logo,
admit a mistake based on customer response the ultimate poll,
and manage the company better than ever before. As for
the administration's management, Brett, that style can be considered very
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hands on.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Brett, oh Lauren, thank.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
You, cousind and Trump.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You have committed to us ostage families for meeting us
that you will bring all of them dot home. The
killing of journalists and Gaza should chuck the words and
those responsible must be held accountable.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
So we have twenty, but there's rumors that some could
be dead. It said, terrible situation over there. There's nothing conclusive,
but hopefully we're going to have things solved very quickly
with regard to Gaza.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, the man running point on the US effort to
help the and the fighting in Gaza and also the
situation in Ukraine, joins US tonight for an exclusive interview.
Steve Witkoff is the President Special Envoy for Peace Missions.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Thanks for being here. It's my pleasure, Brett, thank you.
Let's start with Israel Gaza. Who is holding up the
end of the war. More Israel or Hamas Amas Hamas.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yes, there's been a deal on the table for the
last six or seven weeks that would have released ten
of the hostages out of the twenty who we think
are alive, and it was Hamas who slow played that process.
And it is Hamas now who's saying we accept that deal.
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And I think in large part they are saying that
and changing their mind because the Israelis are putting some
very tense pressure on them.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So do you think Hamas should be completely destroyed, as
Prime Minister Netyahu says.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
You know, that's not my call. I think that there
needs to be a deal. There needs to be hostages
sent home. There would be a commensurate amount of Palestinian
prisoners who would be sent home to Every time we
see a hostage release, we see jubilation on both sides,
and Hamas understands that they can have nothing to do
with the government going forward. Those are terms of the
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Israelis and they are terms of President Trump as well.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So I guess the question, should Israel be doing anything
differently to end the war and get the hostages home? Well,
why do you see optimism in bringing this to an end?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Well, we think that we think that we're going to
settle this one way or another, certainly before the.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
End of this year.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Hamas is now signaling that they're open to a settlement
the Israelis when they announce this this operation also announced
at the same time that they were funding six hundred
million dollars of aid to go into Gaza, and in
addition to that, they also announced that they were open
to continuing discussions with Hamas. So it's not a maximalist approach.
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On the Israelis part, they're indicating that they have accommodations
to make if Hamas decides to make them. And we've
suggested by the way that Hamas can begin by feeding
the hostages, by giving them medical attention, by letting the
Red Cross in, by doing the humane thing. The President
is a humanitarian, that's what he wants to see.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And we've talked to some of those released hostages on
this very set. Israeli officials say they'll no longer accept
a partial.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Deal for the return of hostages. Is that where you
are now?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
That's the official position, and that's President Trump's official position.
I think that he has said to himself that you
don't need to keep those hostages. Will have a negotiation
if they want as to what next day it looks
like in after this is all done, and what the
definition of Hamas is. We can talk about those things,
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but we adamantly want and I'm following the President's direction
here when I say this, all of those hostages.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Home this week.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Obviously we had the Israel killing journalists and rescue workers.
When this hospital was struck targeted, there were HAMAS leaders there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What is the reaction to that?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And are there red lines with the Trump administration and
how Israel is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Moving forward with this.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Well, anytime you have civilian deaths, it's a tragedy. The
president he feels it. And you know, the President has
made almost every single hostage family. I mean, he is
as compassionate a man as I know. So anytime you
have civilian hostages, that's problematic. But it's a war, and
part of what we're trying to do is shut that
war down. It doesn't need to continue to happen anymore.
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And I think that Hamas has held that region hostage
for much too long and it's time for attend And
I think many of the Arab governments, by the way,
are in that camp as well.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Last thing, you know, it's obviously a very dangerous situation
on the ground, but there is a want for journalists
to get in there and to tell the story on
the ground. We've had Bill Hammer get in on the
outskirts there and inside.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Is there a thought about that?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well, I've been in there twice with you know, a
ceramic vest on wearing my black make America Great hat
again and people were cheering when they saw it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Not me, but for the president.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
He's very well acknowledged there, not just in Gozip, but
in Israel. It is a very dangerous place. It's over
thirty thousand unexploded munitions all over the place. It is
not It is a demolition zone, and it's a tough place.
And I'm sure Bill Hemmer told you that most people
would imagine it's going to take some time.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It takes you a plan for a day after in Gaza.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Yes, We've got a large meeting in the White House
tomorrow chaired by the President, and it's a very comprehensive
plan we're putting together on the next day that I
think many people are going to be They're going to
see how robust it is and how it's how well
meaning it is, and it reflects President Trump's humanitarian motives.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Here, let me turn to Ukraine, Russia. Here's the president today.
Think of it.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
You have your son leaving Russia, leaving Ukraine to the
little house wherever they live with their parents. They're waving
their bike, and then a week later his head's blown
off in a stupid war by a drone. So no,
I'd like it to stop. I want to get at
this and it will not be a world war. But
it'll be.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
An economic war, and an.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Economic war is going to be bad, and it's going
to be bad for Russia.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And I don't want that same question different war. Who's
more responsible for keeping this war going Russia or Ukraine.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
This is a different situation here. We've got two These
are two tough sides here. You heard the President say
that he's disappointed in Russia in some respects, and he's
also disappointed in the Ukrainians in some respects. But I
would point this out to you, no one has done more,
and I'm talking about in the last eight months than
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this president in narrowing the issues between these two countries
and bringing the sides close to a deal. The Russians
have put a peace proposal on the table. It involves
an esque It may not be something that the Ukrainians
can take, but no one's ever made that kind of
progress here. And it's because of his force of personality
and his motivation to end the conflict and the death
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that we're at this place where we think the end
is in sight.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
The next step was going to be a bilateral meeting.
The Russians are signaling it doesn't seem to be happening,
is it going to go to a trilateral meeting or
how do you see the blueprint?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Well, first of all, I'm meeting with the Ukrainians this week,
So I will be meeting with them this week in
New York, and that's a big signal. We talk to
the Russians every day. I think that we may end
up seeing a by ladder meeting. My own opinion is
is that the president is going going to be needed
at the table to finish a deal. Putin President Putin
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at the Alaska summit, Brett actually acknowledged that this war
would never have happened if the president had been in office.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And I think you also say that at that Alaska
summit that he wanted peace.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Did he tell you that he wanted to bring an
end to the war.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Absolutely, he's there's a peace proposal on the table he
wants he he has certainly said that, and and and
hopefully he stands he stands by that kind that.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I mean, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That the critics out there say that this is Putin
playing you all, Well, how do you respond to that?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
I think he has made a good faith effort to engage.
He certainly did at the Alaska summit. But it's a
very complicated conflict. But the President is determined to to
get this, to get this conflict done. Look, he's he's done.
The President has done God's work on in separate conflicts
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here and why because at heart he's a humanitarian. At heart,
he wants to see the killing end. And I can
tell you this. I just hope that when it comes
time to assess from a noble peace price standpoint, the
type of work that President Trump has done, that it's
it's widely acknowledged exactly what has happened out there in
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the world stage.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I've talked John, We've talked about India, Pakistan, Alzeba, Jan, Armenia,
We've talked about Congo, Ruwanda, We've talked about all.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Of those the hoodies, I mean, all of it. This
one really is a sticking point.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Should Ukraine be forced to give up land that Russian
forces have not yet conquered.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Well, the President has said that the only one who
can make that decision or the Ukrainians. That's President Zelenski's call.
And I think that that they have indicated that it's
a more complicated decision than just giving up land. You
have to they have to understand what the security guarantees
are and the title to understand those things. They have
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to make sure that this can never happen again. That
is them being a fiduciary for their people. So we
have to address all of those things. But we understand
that we have technical teams working on it, and we're
hopeful that by the end of this year we actually
and maybe quite a bit sooner, we actually can find
the ingredients to get to that piece deal.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Sir Gary Lavrov saying that the Ukrainian president is illegitimate,
the president saying today that's all posturing and bs you
agreed with him as we played that SoundBite, But what
about the Trump administration. It did put maximum pressure on Iran,
a maximum pressure campaign.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Why not do the same with Russia?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
If you sense that they are stepping back from the table,
why not drop the hammer and get them back to
the table.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Well, that's an assessment that the president has to make,
and he's got plenty of leverage of levers to use.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
If he makes that. If he makes that call, because
you sense that the Russian com to me is faltering,
I don't know if I would say that.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I would simply say that I think the president is disappointed.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
He really is.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
He's said it to me in numerous times, and he
said it publicly. He's disappointed because he doesn't believe that
this is it's not his war, and he doesn't believe
it's a war that needs to continue, and he wants
to death to stop as well. So I think that
he looks at this as I have to do everything
I can. I am the man who of the moment,
who can end this thing. I have to figure out
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how to do everything I can to bring the two
sides together.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And if I can't to force them together, well, I.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Know that there are a lot of people in this town,
Democrats and Republicans who wish you the best.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So thank you, Thank you, Brett appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Up next, my interview with the chair and CEO of
Eli Lillian Company, David Rix on a development that could
tip the scales. And then but the Democrats meeting in
Minnesota this week and what they're trying to do to
try to get their mojo back.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
ICE captures and illegal immigrants wanted for allegedly killing mother
in Dui crash. Ecuadorian suspect was released twice by local
authorities despite ICE detainer requests. Immigration and Customs Enforcement captured
an Ecuadorian illegal immigrant who is facing vehicular homicide charges
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in Minnesota on Friday. The August crash in which German
Adrian or I don't know how to say that name,
Adriana Laningari, Adreana Langhani. The August crash in which German
Andreano Langani Inga allegedly had a blood alcohol content twice
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the legal limit, killed mother Victoria Eileen Harwell and hurt
our teenage daughter and sister. According the DHS and local
media outlets, this by a lack of cooperation from local
Minnesota authorities. ICE arrested criminal illegal alien German Legari Inga.
This criminal illegal alien has been evading prosecution for vehicular
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homicide that resulted in the death of Minnesota mum Victoria
Eileen Harwell. Assistant Secretary mclollin said in a statement on Tuesday.
He was arrested by Hennepin County Sheriff Office on May
tenth on an outstanding warrant, but then released on May
thirteenth without notifying ICE, despite the detainer request placed by
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the agency on that day. According to the Department of
Homeland Security, there was another detainer placed by ICE in
August when the crash occurred. By Hennepin County Sheriff's office
told Fox News Digital that because of the state Attorney
General's guidance, they cannot lawfully hold individuals in custody based
solely on an administrative detainer issued by the Department of
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Homeland Security or in a Greation and Customs enforcement. If
a judically signed warrant is presented to HCSO, ICE will
be notified when it becomes the holding agency. In the
absence of such a warrant, individuals must be released or
once all criminal charges all holds have been resolved. HCSO
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is committed to working with the federal and local partners
and honoring the constitutional rights of all individuals. Hcso's statement
at the time added in August he was only in
county jail for two days. Despite Hanna Been County refusing
to honor this criminal illegal aliens detainer. Twice ice officers
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tracked him down and removed this criminal from Minnesota streets.
Tim Rolds should be thanking Ice not used in despicable rhetoric.
Remember sanctuary politicians are fighting for criminal illegal aliens. President
Trump and Secretary Gnome are fighting for the victims of
illegal alien crime, like Aileen Harwell. Mclollan continued. Earlier this month,
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the Trump White House took aim at Minnesota leaders because
the man was still at large. According to Ice, he
first came to the United States in June twenty sixteen
and was detained by US Customs and Border Protection, issued
an order of expedited removal, and placed into removal proceedings.
An illegal immigrant drove drunk, killed an innocent mother and
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is now on the run because Democrats didn't do their
most important job protect their constitutes, Alex Piffeffer, White House
Principal Deputy Communications Director, told Fox News Digital in an
exclusive statement. At the time MSNBC's Joe Scarborough confronted on
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viral best Biden Ever clip, MSNBC host maintained his assess
based on personal interactions, despite pushback from Mark Harperin MSNBC's
Joe Scarborough was confronted with a viral clip of him
deeming former President Joe Biden in the best Biden Ever
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in March twenty twenty four. On Tuesday, standing by his
assessment of the former president, citing his personal interactions with
him speaking to Mark Harperin during his show Next Up
with Mark Halperin, Scarborough watched the clip of himself where
he argued that the former president was far beyond cognant.
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I've said for years now, but he's cognate. But I
undersold it when I said he was cognate. He's far
beyond cognates. In fact, I think he's better than he's
ever been intellectually and analytically because he's been around for
fifty years, Scarborough said during a March twenty twenty four
Morning Joe broadcast, start your tape right now, because I'm
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about to tell you the truth and f you if
you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden intellectually,
analytically is the best Biden ever. After noting that Biden
had good days and bad days, Harborin asked Scarborough, looking
back at that, do you say, well it was misleader,
say best by Den ever without caviating it and saying
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except on the days when he's not the best Biden ever,
Scarborough insisted he never saw the bad days personally. Earlier
in the conversation, Scarborough detained multiple meetings he had with
I'm sorry one more time I made a mistake. Yeah,
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Scarborough insists that he never saw the bad days personally.
Earlier in the conversation, Scarborough detailed multiple meetings he had
with Joe Biden, during which the MSNBC host argued that
Biden had a better analysis of the situation related to
Ukraine and Russia that he had heard from most people.
Harborin pushed back and told Scarborough, well, you did, you
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did because you saw him address a dead congresswoman and
you saw him in South Carolina. Halperin argued he could
show Scarborough several clips of days when the former president
was not the best Biden ever, and Scarborough pivoted the
conversation to Trump. Scarborough argued, he stumbled and bumbled around Mark.
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I mean, yeah, he certainly did. Donald Trump did, other
politicians did. And it's actually the same case as a
lot of times when I've gone in and talked to
Donald Trump, we go on to Donald Trump, and I've
heard the media narrative around Donald Trump, and certainly I've
been very critical of Trump, and when I leave, I
have a better understanding, just like Jeffrey Goldberg did,
I'll go sure, all right, Kennedy, Thank you, Harold. Good evening,
Welcome to Washington. I'm Brett Bair.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
As Washington d C records its first murder in twelve days.
We ride along with US Marshall seeking the most dangerous
suspects in the district. There is about to be some
serious competition for the weight loss drug o Zempic. We'll
talk with the chief executive Eli Lilly in company, and
the leader of the Democratic Party tells his members they
should focus less on winning arguments and more on winning elections.
(00:32):
But first breaking Tonight, President Trump using some creative language
to respond to the latest Russian statements indicating reluctance to
end its war with Ukraine. Also tonight, the President saying
he will reverse his firing of a Federal Reserve Board
member under investigation for mortgage fraud if a court tells
him to. After a long, long cabinet meeting, today, Senior
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White House corresponding Jackie Heinrich starts us off live on
the North Lawn.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Good evening, Jackie, Good evening, Grett.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
There are signs Lisa Cook's fight could go to the
Supreme Court, which took steps earlier this year. For tech
members of the FED from being removed without cause. The
alleged cause in Cook's case is going to be a
heavy factor in which way this goes. In the meantime,
President Trump is still in weight and see mode on
Russia sanctions.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It seems to have had an infraction, and she can't
have an infraction.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
President Trump says he's in discussions about who might replace
Lisa Cook on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors after
announcing her removal effective immediately, citing allegations of mortgage fraund
But Cook says she won't resign, and the FED today
says Cook will seek a judicial decision that would confirm
her ability to continue to fulfill her responsibilities as a
Senate confirmed member of the Board of Governors of the
(01:44):
Federal Reserve System. As always, the Federal Reserve will abide
by any court decision. Trump's answer to.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That, I abide by the court.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, I abide by.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
As that fight toils on, so do conflicts Trump is
trying to bring to an end. Today, the President dismissing
protests from Russia's foreign minister that Moscow won't sign a
piece deal with Ukrainian President Zelensky who Russia views as
illegitimate matter with Steve.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Good answer, but I can answer to it doesn't matter
what they say.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Everybody's posturing. It's all okay, everybody's posturing.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Steve, you have a different answer.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I agree with you, sir.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Still, a Putin Zelensky summit doesn't seem any closer.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Russia, Ukraine and Iran Israel Hamas.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
We're having meetings all this week on all three of those.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Conflicts, and we hope to settle.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Them before the end of this year.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
That's a new timeline. The President said days ago he'd
know within two weeks if progress was possible or if
he'd need to pull the trigger on sanctions.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I want to see that deal end.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
It's very very serious.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
What I have in mind if I have to do it,
I'm talking about economic because when I can get into.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
A world war, president indicating it's not just Putin who
is resisting a.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Meeting, Zelinski is not exactly innocent either, Okay, you know
it takes two people to tango.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
After meeting with his military today, Zelenski pushed to accelerate
progress on developing security guarantees, which he would need to
build support domestically for any land concessions he makes in
a peace deal with Putin that might happen in that meeting,
indicating that the package of security guarantees from the US
and Europe just isn't quite there yet.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Brett Jackie had lots of news obviously in today's cabinet
meeting that was talked about there. It ran for more
than three hours, including the President appearing to dig in
on his plan to allow Chinese student visas big numbers.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
What do we know about that?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, Conservatives have pushed back on this plan, which would
allow six hundred thousand or so Chinese nationals into American universities.
Their concerns are over frequent corporate espionage and intellectual property
theft pushed by the Chinese Communist Party. The President said today, though,
if you take those students out of American universe, it's
(04:00):
going to harbor the college system. He said, it would
be the bottom tier basically of American schools that suffer
the most. But all this comes after Secretary of Stint
Marco Rubio announced in May the State Department would be
aggressively revoking student visas for Chinese nationals with any ties
to the CCP or dealing with any sensitive materials.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Right, Jackie Henrick Love in the North Lawn and Jackie
thanks authorities here in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Confirming the first homicide in the district since the federal
takeover of law enforcement almost two weeks ago. Tonight, we
take you on an exclusive ride along with the US
Marshall's Service as it participates in President Trump's crackdown on
crime in the Nation's capital.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Of course, by Alexis mccadams.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Goes on patrol with a special team that serves warrants
for some of the most violent suspects here in the district.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Another night and more arrest in the nation's capital.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
We're arresting the same folks over over and over, and
that happens because they're letting them out faster than we're
gonna put.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Them in license. Our cameras rolling as federal agents took
these two men into custody accused of committing violent crimes,
part of the ongoing federal crackdown led by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's Trump and What's Virginia say direct.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
You're a US Marshall Service at GADDY Serralta, tasked with
spearheading the cleanup. What would you tell other people across
the city that think they might be able to get
away from you and your team.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh, they're not going to get away. What I would
suggest that they turned themselves in.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
This man accused of carjacking someone at gunpoint out in
Maryland asked why the agents were even picking them up.
After he says he'll just be back out in a
few days.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
The judges then're gonna say're gonna put him on a
three day who then once the three day hold.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Us up has to release me, they release me.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
It's the same thing, every the same thing, every time.
Now more than one thousand arrests and counting as a resident,
pushes to improve DC safety, rolling out local, state and
federal partners like the National Guard, and pushing for stiffer penalties.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
If somebody kills somebody into Capitol Washington, DC, we're going
to be seeking the death penalty.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And Brett.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
One thing I thought was interesting being here in DC
was some of those ride alongs in those bus that
we saw those criminals, according to police, wasn't too far
from where we are right now at the White House.
And listen to this. Nearly half of the people who
were arrested on last night's ride along were in the
country illegally, and one, according to police, was an MS
thirteen gang member.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Right Lexus mcadam's run for the White House, Alexis thanks
strong afternoon rally pushed markets near new records. The now
up one hundred and thirty six, the S and P
five hundred gained twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The Nasdaq rose ninety five.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
The Trump administration signaling it is planning to take stakes
in additional private companies following its deal with chip maker Intel.
Officials say they are trying to boost futures, sovereign wealth,
and enhanced national security. Here's Fox Business correspondent Lauren Sininetti.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Everyone said I bought a stake an Intel, No, I
get it for free.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
President Trump taking issue with a reporter question today asking
about what other companies the government is considering taking a
stake in. After last week's Intel deal. Commerce Secretary Howard
Lutnik defended the arrangement today.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's not socialism. This is capitalism.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
If you give someone eleven billion dollars, who's just building
in America.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
They're not doing something special the building in America.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
Lutnick also suggested this morning that the government could take
a stake in defense contractors, including Lockheed Martin, the company
saying in a statement to Fox Business, quote, we are
continuing our strong working relationship with President Trump and his
administration to strengthen our national defense. While shares of the
defense stocks closed hire today, analysts point out the industry
(07:53):
isn't in distress, which observers say is what makes some
of the president's recent interventions more curious.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What's broken nothing.
Speaker 9 (08:01):
The American economy for two hundred years is the gem
of the globe. The private sector has been working with
the government for two hundred years successfully. We remain the
largest economy on Earth.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Not all of Trump's corporate involvement is on the American
taxpayer's behalf. He is also inserting himself into cultural controversies too,
writing Cracker Barrel should go back to the old logo,
admit a mistake based on customer response the ultimate poll,
and manage the company better than ever before. As for
the administration's management, Brett, that style can be considered very
(08:36):
hands on.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Brett, oh Lauren, thank.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
You, cousind and Trump.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You have committed to us ostage families for meeting us
that you will bring all of them dot home. The
killing of journalists and Gaza should chuck the words and
those responsible must be held accountable.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
So we have twenty, but there's rumors that some could
be dead. It said, terrible situation over there. There's nothing conclusive,
but hopefully we're going to have things solved very quickly
with regard to Gaza.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, the man running point on the US effort to
help the and the fighting in Gaza and also the
situation in Ukraine, joins US tonight for an exclusive interview.
Steve Witkoff is the President Special Envoy for Peace Missions.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Thanks for being here. It's my pleasure, Brett, thank you.
Let's start with Israel Gaza. Who is holding up the
end of the war. More Israel or Hamas Amas Hamas.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yes, there's been a deal on the table for the
last six or seven weeks that would have released ten
of the hostages out of the twenty who we think
are alive, and it was Hamas who slow played that process.
And it is Hamas now who's saying we accept that deal.
(09:53):
And I think in large part they are saying that
and changing their mind because the Israelis are putting some
very tense pressure on them.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So do you think Hamas should be completely destroyed, as
Prime Minister Netyahu says.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
You know, that's not my call. I think that there
needs to be a deal. There needs to be hostages
sent home. There would be a commensurate amount of Palestinian
prisoners who would be sent home to Every time we
see a hostage release, we see jubilation on both sides,
and Hamas understands that they can have nothing to do
with the government going forward. Those are terms of the
(10:30):
Israelis and they are terms of President Trump as well.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So I guess the question, should Israel be doing anything
differently to end the war and get the hostages home? Well,
why do you see optimism in bringing this to an end?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Well, we think that we think that we're going to
settle this one way or another, certainly before the.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
End of this year.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Hamas is now signaling that they're open to a settlement
the Israelis when they announce this this operation also announced
at the same time that they were funding six hundred
million dollars of aid to go into Gaza, and in
addition to that, they also announced that they were open
to continuing discussions with Hamas. So it's not a maximalist approach.
(11:16):
On the Israelis part, they're indicating that they have accommodations
to make if Hamas decides to make them. And we've
suggested by the way that Hamas can begin by feeding
the hostages, by giving them medical attention, by letting the
Red Cross in, by doing the humane thing. The President
is a humanitarian, that's what he wants to see.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And we've talked to some of those released hostages on
this very set. Israeli officials say they'll no longer accept
a partial.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Deal for the return of hostages. Is that where you
are now?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
That's the official position, and that's President Trump's official position.
I think that he has said to himself that you
don't need to keep those hostages. Will have a negotiation
if they want as to what next day it looks
like in after this is all done, and what the
definition of Hamas is. We can talk about those things,
(12:06):
but we adamantly want and I'm following the President's direction
here when I say this, all of those hostages.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Home this week.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Obviously we had the Israel killing journalists and rescue workers.
When this hospital was struck targeted, there were HAMAS leaders there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What is the reaction to that?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And are there red lines with the Trump administration and
how Israel is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Moving forward with this.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Well, anytime you have civilian deaths, it's a tragedy. The
president he feels it. And you know, the President has
made almost every single hostage family. I mean, he is
as compassionate a man as I know. So anytime you
have civilian hostages, that's problematic. But it's a war, and
part of what we're trying to do is shut that
war down. It doesn't need to continue to happen anymore.
(12:55):
And I think that Hamas has held that region hostage
for much too long and it's time for attend And
I think many of the Arab governments, by the way,
are in that camp as well.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Last thing, you know, it's obviously a very dangerous situation
on the ground, but there is a want for journalists
to get in there and to tell the story on
the ground. We've had Bill Hammer get in on the
outskirts there and inside.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Is there a thought about that?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well, I've been in there twice with you know, a
ceramic vest on wearing my black make America Great hat
again and people were cheering when they saw it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Not me, but for the president.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
He's very well acknowledged there, not just in Gozip, but
in Israel. It is a very dangerous place. It's over
thirty thousand unexploded munitions all over the place. It is
not It is a demolition zone, and it's a tough place.
And I'm sure Bill Hemmer told you that most people
would imagine it's going to take some time.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It takes you a plan for a day after in Gaza.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Yes, We've got a large meeting in the White House
tomorrow chaired by the President, and it's a very comprehensive
plan we're putting together on the next day that I
think many people are going to be They're going to
see how robust it is and how it's how well
meaning it is, and it reflects President Trump's humanitarian motives.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Here, let me turn to Ukraine, Russia. Here's the president today.
Think of it.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
You have your son leaving Russia, leaving Ukraine to the
little house wherever they live with their parents. They're waving
their bike, and then a week later his head's blown
off in a stupid war by a drone. So no,
I'd like it to stop. I want to get at
this and it will not be a world war. But
it'll be.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
An economic war, and an.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Economic war is going to be bad, and it's going
to be bad for Russia.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And I don't want that same question different war. Who's
more responsible for keeping this war going Russia or Ukraine.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
This is a different situation here. We've got two These
are two tough sides here. You heard the President say
that he's disappointed in Russia in some respects, and he's
also disappointed in the Ukrainians in some respects. But I
would point this out to you, no one has done more,
and I'm talking about in the last eight months than
(15:14):
this president in narrowing the issues between these two countries
and bringing the sides close to a deal. The Russians
have put a peace proposal on the table. It involves
an esque It may not be something that the Ukrainians
can take, but no one's ever made that kind of
progress here. And it's because of his force of personality
and his motivation to end the conflict and the death
(15:35):
that we're at this place where we think the end
is in sight.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
The next step was going to be a bilateral meeting.
The Russians are signaling it doesn't seem to be happening,
is it going to go to a trilateral meeting or
how do you see the blueprint?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Well, first of all, I'm meeting with the Ukrainians this week,
So I will be meeting with them this week in
New York, and that's a big signal. We talk to
the Russians every day. I think that we may end
up seeing a by ladder meeting. My own opinion is
is that the president is going going to be needed
at the table to finish a deal. Putin President Putin
(16:09):
at the Alaska summit, Brett actually acknowledged that this war
would never have happened if the president had been in office.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And I think you also say that at that Alaska
summit that he wanted peace.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Did he tell you that he wanted to bring an
end to the war.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Absolutely, he's there's a peace proposal on the table he
wants he he has certainly said that, and and and
hopefully he stands he stands by that kind that.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I mean, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That the critics out there say that this is Putin
playing you all, Well, how do you respond to that?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
I think he has made a good faith effort to engage.
He certainly did at the Alaska summit. But it's a
very complicated conflict. But the President is determined to to
get this, to get this conflict done. Look, he's he's done.
The President has done God's work on in separate conflicts
(17:01):
here and why because at heart he's a humanitarian. At heart,
he wants to see the killing end. And I can
tell you this. I just hope that when it comes
time to assess from a noble peace price standpoint, the
type of work that President Trump has done, that it's
it's widely acknowledged exactly what has happened out there in
(17:23):
the world stage.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I've talked John, We've talked about India, Pakistan, Alzeba, Jan, Armenia,
We've talked about Congo, Ruwanda, We've talked about all.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Of those the hoodies, I mean, all of it. This
one really is a sticking point.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Should Ukraine be forced to give up land that Russian
forces have not yet conquered.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Well, the President has said that the only one who
can make that decision or the Ukrainians. That's President Zelenski's call.
And I think that that they have indicated that it's
a more complicated decision than just giving up land. You
have to they have to understand what the security guarantees
are and the title to understand those things. They have
(18:02):
to make sure that this can never happen again. That
is them being a fiduciary for their people. So we
have to address all of those things. But we understand
that we have technical teams working on it, and we're
hopeful that by the end of this year we actually
and maybe quite a bit sooner, we actually can find
the ingredients to get to that piece deal.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Sir Gary Lavrov saying that the Ukrainian president is illegitimate,
the president saying today that's all posturing and bs you
agreed with him as we played that SoundBite, But what
about the Trump administration. It did put maximum pressure on Iran,
a maximum pressure campaign.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Why not do the same with Russia?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
If you sense that they are stepping back from the table,
why not drop the hammer and get them back to
the table.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Well, that's an assessment that the president has to make,
and he's got plenty of leverage of levers to use.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
If he makes that. If he makes that call, because
you sense that the Russian com to me is faltering,
I don't know if I would say that.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I would simply say that I think the president is disappointed.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
He really is.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
He's said it to me in numerous times, and he
said it publicly. He's disappointed because he doesn't believe that
this is it's not his war, and he doesn't believe
it's a war that needs to continue, and he wants
to death to stop as well. So I think that
he looks at this as I have to do everything
I can. I am the man who of the moment,
who can end this thing. I have to figure out
(19:32):
how to do everything I can to bring the two
sides together.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And if I can't to force them together, well, I.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Know that there are a lot of people in this town,
Democrats and Republicans who wish you the best.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So thank you, Thank you, Brett appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Up next, my interview with the chair and CEO of
Eli Lillian Company, David Rix on a development that could
tip the scales. And then but the Democrats meeting in
Minnesota this week and what they're trying to do to
try to get their mojo back.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
ICE captures and illegal immigrants wanted for allegedly killing mother
in Dui crash. Ecuadorian suspect was released twice by local
authorities despite ICE detainer requests. Immigration and Customs Enforcement captured
an Ecuadorian illegal immigrant who is facing vehicular homicide charges
(20:24):
in Minnesota on Friday. The August crash in which German
Adrian or I don't know how to say that name,
Adriana Laningari, Adreana Langhani. The August crash in which German
Andreano Langani Inga allegedly had a blood alcohol content twice
(20:49):
the legal limit, killed mother Victoria Eileen Harwell and hurt
our teenage daughter and sister. According the DHS and local
media outlets, this by a lack of cooperation from local
Minnesota authorities. ICE arrested criminal illegal alien German Legari Inga.
This criminal illegal alien has been evading prosecution for vehicular
(21:11):
homicide that resulted in the death of Minnesota mum Victoria
Eileen Harwell. Assistant Secretary mclollin said in a statement on Tuesday.
He was arrested by Hennepin County Sheriff Office on May
tenth on an outstanding warrant, but then released on May
thirteenth without notifying ICE, despite the detainer request placed by
(21:35):
the agency on that day. According to the Department of
Homeland Security, there was another detainer placed by ICE in
August when the crash occurred. By Hennepin County Sheriff's office
told Fox News Digital that because of the state Attorney
General's guidance, they cannot lawfully hold individuals in custody based
solely on an administrative detainer issued by the Department of
(21:58):
Homeland Security or in a Greation and Customs enforcement. If
a judically signed warrant is presented to HCSO, ICE will
be notified when it becomes the holding agency. In the
absence of such a warrant, individuals must be released or
once all criminal charges all holds have been resolved. HCSO
(22:20):
is committed to working with the federal and local partners
and honoring the constitutional rights of all individuals. Hcso's statement
at the time added in August he was only in
county jail for two days. Despite Hanna Been County refusing
to honor this criminal illegal aliens detainer. Twice ice officers
(22:42):
tracked him down and removed this criminal from Minnesota streets.
Tim Rolds should be thanking Ice not used in despicable rhetoric.
Remember sanctuary politicians are fighting for criminal illegal aliens. President
Trump and Secretary Gnome are fighting for the victims of
illegal alien crime, like Aileen Harwell. Mclollan continued. Earlier this month,
(23:05):
the Trump White House took aim at Minnesota leaders because
the man was still at large. According to Ice, he
first came to the United States in June twenty sixteen
and was detained by US Customs and Border Protection, issued
an order of expedited removal, and placed into removal proceedings.
An illegal immigrant drove drunk, killed an innocent mother and
(23:26):
is now on the run because Democrats didn't do their
most important job protect their constitutes, Alex Piffeffer, White House
Principal Deputy Communications Director, told Fox News Digital in an
exclusive statement. At the time MSNBC's Joe Scarborough confronted on
(23:54):
viral best Biden Ever clip, MSNBC host maintained his assess
based on personal interactions, despite pushback from Mark Harperin MSNBC's
Joe Scarborough was confronted with a viral clip of him
deeming former President Joe Biden in the best Biden Ever
(24:14):
in March twenty twenty four. On Tuesday, standing by his
assessment of the former president, citing his personal interactions with
him speaking to Mark Harperin during his show Next Up
with Mark Halperin, Scarborough watched the clip of himself where
he argued that the former president was far beyond cognant.
(24:35):
I've said for years now, but he's cognate. But I
undersold it when I said he was cognate. He's far
beyond cognates. In fact, I think he's better than he's
ever been intellectually and analytically because he's been around for
fifty years, Scarborough said during a March twenty twenty four
Morning Joe broadcast, start your tape right now, because I'm
(24:56):
about to tell you the truth and f you if
you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden intellectually,
analytically is the best Biden ever. After noting that Biden
had good days and bad days, Harborin asked Scarborough, looking
back at that, do you say, well it was misleader,
say best by Den ever without caviating it and saying
(25:17):
except on the days when he's not the best Biden ever,
Scarborough insisted he never saw the bad days personally. Earlier
in the conversation, Scarborough detained multiple meetings he had with
I'm sorry one more time I made a mistake. Yeah,
(25:37):
Scarborough insists that he never saw the bad days personally.
Earlier in the conversation, Scarborough detailed multiple meetings he had
with Joe Biden, during which the MSNBC host argued that
Biden had a better analysis of the situation related to
Ukraine and Russia that he had heard from most people.
Harborin pushed back and told Scarborough, well, you did, you
(26:01):
did because you saw him address a dead congresswoman and
you saw him in South Carolina. Halperin argued he could
show Scarborough several clips of days when the former president
was not the best Biden ever, and Scarborough pivoted the
conversation to Trump. Scarborough argued, he stumbled and bumbled around Mark.
(26:23):
I mean, yeah, he certainly did. Donald Trump did, other
politicians did. And it's actually the same case as a
lot of times when I've gone in and talked to
Donald Trump, we go on to Donald Trump, and I've
heard the media narrative around Donald Trump, and certainly I've
been very critical of Trump, and when I leave, I
have a better understanding, just like Jeffrey Goldberg did,
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