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August 25, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Vice is far from over.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Abrego Garcia could be deported to Uganda in the next
few days and must check in with agents in Baltimore
tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
At eight am.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
He declined an offer to be sent to Costa Rica
in exchange for remaining in jail in pleading guilty to
human smuggling charges. Democrats are still dying on the hill
for this dangerous illegal alien.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is eachen all a part of the administration's efforts
to dehumanize immigrants, and they can be discarded anywhere.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
They don't care about what they do to this individual,
how if they separate them from his family. They're really
what they're trying to do is send a message to
anybody who's going to challenge them.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
When we look at what's happened in this situation, it's
the president manipulating the fact that we have a very
broken immigration system.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Joining us now for the big close up interview, Borders
are Tom Homan, Tom, thanks for joining us tonight. Obviously
a fast moving case. A Bredo Garcia's lawyer says the
government is quote weaponizing the immigration system against him. My
question is what's your response to accusations that you're weaponizing

(01:10):
the immigration system and will in fact, Abrigo Garcia soon
be heading to Uganda.

Speaker 6 (01:18):
He is absolutely going to be deported in this country.
He's not going to walk the streets the station so
he can enjoy the little time he has with his family.
And for the person says we're not going to separate
family with his family can go with him because he's leaving,
he's going to be deported. Look, he's a criminal alien,
he's a member of MS thir team, which is now
a designated terrorist. He's a white beater, he's a human trafficker.

(01:39):
He's been indicted for human trafficking, alien smugman. He's a
bad person. He's not going to be here. He's been
ordering moved twice, ordering moved by two different federal judges.
He's going to leave this country in the very near future,
and his family.

Speaker 7 (01:53):
Can go with him.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
For I can't see who was talking before the sound bites,
but whoever said we're taking advantage of broken immigration system, what.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Do they do?

Speaker 6 (02:01):
What do those people do the last four years about
this broken immigration system? They let ten point five million
people across that border, sex traveling women and children. All
time high overdose tests of fautat an all time high
number terrafts, all time high.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
They didn't do anything that picks that.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
President Trump is keeping the promised American people to enforce
the law.

Speaker 7 (02:18):
And that's what we're doing.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
We'll make this country safer every day by removing people
like Abrego Garcia.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
It just just to follow up, Tom, So just to
be clear, is Briga Garcia headed to Uganda? The lawyers
apparently telling the AP the DHS notified on Friday at
four pm that they may remove him to Uganda in
seventy two hours.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Can you confirm that?

Speaker 7 (02:42):
But Wogan is on the table. We'll see.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
I mean, you know, we we the dealj's you know,
our immigration attorneys and the judges and they're all in
the negotiations and we'll see what happens. But Uganda's on
the table. We have an agreement with him. It's on
the table absolutely.

Speaker 8 (02:57):
Hey, Tom, it's Nicole. Seventeen hundred National guardsmen across nineteen
states are getting ready to help DHS crack down on
crime and also the Illegal Immigration ICE has already ramped
up enforcement in DC with the new arsenal of SUVs,
while the border wall is getting a new code of
paint to keep the illegals off Now. Secretary Nome is
reportedly pushing for a fleet of planes to help with

(03:19):
these deportations, but the left is continuing to stand in
the way of immigration enforcement, as an Obama appointed judge
ruled against Trump's efforts to withhold funding from sanctuary jurisdictions.
So here's my question for you, Tom, how is the
administration how are they fighting this lawfair?

Speaker 7 (03:35):
First of all, look, we got we got a great dog.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
We got pambind ahead of that and she's taken she's
taken out the court. Now, these radical judges are going
to continue to stop or try to stop President Trump
from you know, doing any promised American people, American this
country safe againery moving you know, the public safety threats
and the national security threats who are illegally the United States.
They're knock going to stoppers from doing it. They're gonna
put roadblock up. We're going to take me to the court.

(04:01):
We'll peel the decisions and we'll win the decisions because
we are enforcing the law. That's what That's what the
other side isn't talking about. We're not making this up.
We're enforcing the laws and acted by Congress. Ice is
all there every day, enforcing the laws and acted by Congress,
using the money that Congress gave them to do this
upholding the old state took. So we're going to continue
doing this, and then President Trump's going to be age

(04:22):
going to succeed. We're going to have to save safest
nation we've ever seen. By the time business president presidency ends,
we are resting thousands of public safety dressed and national
security threats every week across this country. And by spreading
the National Guard helping the DHS on the streets, it's
going to happen that much quicker.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Real quick.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
Tom. The question I have for you, though, is we're
talking about the paint job for the border wall, we're
talking about our new fleet of airplanes. But the border control, obviously,
all the progress is doing incredible things. We're at an
all time low of border crossings. But what are we
going to do to expand support the existing border patrol
agents to the next administration. Because while border crossing maybe
down right now under Trump, we need to make sure

(05:02):
that we have a lasting mortar patrol and immigration policy
for the next time someone else is in the White House.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
And that's exactly why President Trump passed a press Coire
is very high along with myself and others like Steve
Miller to pass the big beautiful build. There's a lot
of money that to continue building that wall, continue building infrastructure,
which includes technology within that wall, which includes the technology
within the port of entries. So you know, uh uh,

(05:30):
legal traffic can come to the port of entries quicker
and more efficient while we're still catching the majority of
the drugs and the endgame is to catch all the drugs.
So the base officers were hiring more borbitual agents. So
together with the new agents on the ground, the new technology,
the new border barriers, we're going we have sustained presidents
on the border that's going to last for decades.

Speaker 9 (05:51):
Tom, it's Lisa Booth. It's great to see you. I
want to get your take on this or so. A
transgender anti ICE rioter was arrested on Wednesday in San
Francisco in charge with the sole and destruction of federal property.
This individual allegedly slashed the tires of a government or
government vehicles with a knife and threatened ICE agents, reportedly

(06:12):
telling one quote, I'm going to f you up after
I go after your family, and I'm going to stab you.
This individual is already back on the streets. You know, Tom,
how dangerous is it to be an ICE agent in
today's America?

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Well, look, it's always been dangerous to be an ICE agent.
I mean I was one for many years. But you
know with all the hateful rhetic right now that the
attacks and ICE is up over one thousand percent, and
a lot of the hateful rhetoric from members of Congress. Again,
members of Congress who wrote a law that needs to
be enforced. So again, if you don't like what ICE
is doing, go protest Congress.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
We're not making this up.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
We're enforcing laws and acted by Congress that Congress funds
us to enforce. We're aither enforcing immigration orders by federal judges.
So ICE is all there looking for public safety thrusts
and national security threads.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
I looked at the numbers just this morning.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Seventy percent of everybody we're arresting is a criminal. Who's
the other thirty percent? Their gang members may not have
a criminal history, their national security threads. Most of them
don't have a criminal history because they lay low waiting
to do the bad deed, and the rest of them
are final orders. These are people who had due process,
a great taxpayer expense, A federal judge says you must leave,

(07:24):
and they became a fugitive. We're going to find them,
We're going to remove them. We're going to send a
message to the whole world. Is not okay to enter
this country legally. It's a crime. It is serving not
okay to know are federal judge's ordered to leave because
the measures we're not going to send you the whole
world is enter the country legally. Don't worry about it,
even though it's a crime. Show up in court or
don't show up in the court, get a final order.
Don't worry about worry about No one's looking for you.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
No.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
The reason we're out there so hard right now, BEFO,
we're sending the whole world notice that there are consequences.
That's part of the reason why we have the most
secure border in the nation's history.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
Now. Borders doing a great job. The infrastructure is great.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
It's also the consequences of those who got by sending
them home that also makes our voter more secure.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
You're teme real quick.

Speaker 9 (08:06):
You know, when someone like Tim Walls, Governor Tim Wallas
calls Ice the Gestapo. What does he really want to
happen to them?

Speaker 6 (08:15):
You know, it's a ridiculous statement for anybody to try
to run for the you know, for an office in
the White House.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Why we want to tell him and the rest of them,
you're not going to stop us. Then what happened in
San Francisco. You're not going to stop us. You can
come out and protest to all you want. Peter, you
across the line. You're going to be prosecuted. I looked
at the numbers on Thursday. The numbers of criminal prosecutions
for those who impede and in fear are already double
of any previous year, and I think we're probably going

(08:45):
to triple it by the end of fiscal year, which
ends in another six weeks.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
So you're not going to stop us.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
We're going to continue doing with the American people voted
President Trump and officers to do. I wake up every
morning proud to work for the greatest president in my lifetime.
President Trump proves of American people every single day why
he's the greatest president. Look what he's done to Washington, DC.
Look at the crime dropping in Washington, d C. He's
gonna make that the beacon for the entire world. The

(09:11):
capital of the most, the strongest, and the most beautiful
country in.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
The world should be a beacon for everybody. So we're
gonna make DC safe again.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
We're already doing it, and President Trump's going to take
that message across the country. He's gonna make America safe again.
One inegal alien at a time, one city at a time,
one state at a time.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
Tom Geno Caldwell here, thank you for keeping us all safe.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
An Obama appointed judge is.

Speaker 10 (09:36):
Ruling that Alligator Alcatraz cannot add new illegals and must
dismantle the facility within sixty days, but Florida has a
backup plan opening another detention center called Deportation Depot. This
comes as a surge of new detention facilities in other states,
such as Speedway.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Slammer in Indiana.

Speaker 10 (09:57):
And corn Husker Clinker and the in Nebraska. So my
question is, Tom, are you concerned about the resistance shutting
down other detention facilities for legals across the country.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
Well, I think that I appreciate the governor's stepping up.
We need those beds.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
I think they're more the soft side facilities, more of
transition beds. I personally think we more need more brick
and mortar infrastructure that again it's going to last for
decades that can't be easily torn down. But I appreciate
these these these governors coming and putting up these temporary structures.
Let me tell you if something Alligator Alley, I was there.
I mean I was there because I kept getting asked

(10:36):
questions about the inhuman conditions down there. I got the
books on, you know, the pastors coming in, the priests
coming in and giving religious term meetings to the illegal aliens.
Because I was told that wasn't happening. I went down there.
I saw facility I was well built, that was well maintained,
very clean, and the high detention standard. So this judge
you made us ruin. Did they go and look at

(10:58):
the facility? They actually walked through and talk to the
personnel there that he looked at. There is no danger
to the environment because all the waste, all the garbage
is removed out of that area every single day.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Nothing's dumped there.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
And and they're and they're existing on the on an
air field that was already built. The concrete was already there,
and they're putting on temporary facilities around that. I went there,
I didn't see a single problem with it. And I
think this judge made a decision well known all the facts.
I think in the long run they'll win. They have
to peel it. But I went to that facility. I
didn't see a single thing wrong with the facility.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Borders are Tom Homan, thank you for joining us, and
I thank you for your service and we wish you well.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
Thanks Griff.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
All right, say Buddie, A lot to unpack there, and
you know we're going to keep the discussion short here,
but we hit so many different areas.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
One thing that I thought.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Was really interesting to call was your follow up question,
because I've covered the border for more than a decade
and it does swing back and forth, but it swung
to historic record breaking levels under Biden. In President Trump
in record time has swung it back to the most
secure border ever, and that sort of when something like

(12:09):
that happens, you do worry. What if Gavin Newsom's in
the White House in four years? What if you know
someone like that is And obviously he pointed to the
big beautiful bill that there's funding there, but.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
The funding hasn't been released yet. Right, So the Border
Patrol hasn't actually seen that funding. And it's a great
promise for the future and I can only hope that
it will get instilled down there. But the Border Patrol
right now, they're dealing with a lot of outdated equipment.
The majority of their motor vehicle fleet is over a
decade old, over one hundred and fifty thousand miles on
most of them. Their radios are outdated.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean, a lot of their.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
Equipment I mean is out and in the next five
to ten years you're going to have thousands of agents
who are going to be eligible for retirement, not to
mention that you're at an all time high of suicide
ideations and also completions and mental illness in border patrol.
So I'm looking long term right now, and there's a
promise in a big, beautiful bill of more technology. But
I don't think painting the wall black is going to

(13:00):
help much. Most of the water crossings are still along,
the waterways are still in other points of entry, not
the wall. I think that might be a waste of money.
And I also think getting an airline fleet great to deport,
but what about continuing to stop when there's another administration.
They need updated technology, they need the funding COT and.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
To your question, Jenna, they need the bed space, the
detention space, not to hold people for long term, but
to put them somewhere so that they can then be
removed yet one hundred percent.

Speaker 10 (13:26):
And I think one of the things that we see
across the country is elected officials who are virtual signaling,
those like JB. Pritzker in Illinois who said that he
agreed with President Trump that the worst should leave first.
But every time they find a case that they can
run up to the media with, they're saying, this person
should not be deported.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
People of great people.

Speaker 10 (13:44):
We're talking about murderers, we're talking about drug dealers, all
kind of bad folks who should not be in this country,
who are here illegally. And we have local elected officials
who refuse to work with this administration. So yeah, it's
a surprise so a lot of us that we need
so many beds and we need the resources.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Just to your point about the things that we didn't know.

Speaker 10 (14:02):
That were so outdated, because administration after administration has ignored ice,
they've ignored our law enforcement officers who are meant to
keep us safe. But now is the time for them
to get that funded through the big beautiful bill and
try to submit somehow the previous future administrations won't be
able to backtrack on some of the movement we made

(14:22):
here in the Trumpet.

Speaker 9 (14:23):
We count something to be long lasting. You need Congress
to rewrite some of our immigation. Immigration laws are the
very least close some of these loopholes, like the ones
we've seen applied to unaccompanied minors. I do want to
point out one thing about Alligator Alcatraz because I interviewed
or I talked to Florida's eternal Attorney General at the
end of last week about it. He said that if
it were to be shut down, they have two more

(14:44):
ready to roll. He also pointed out that this is
being shut down over the National Environmental Policy, which is
federal environmental laws, and as he pointed out, Alligator Alcatraz
is run by the state, not the federal government. The
Justice Department has also made that claim as well. He
also pointed out that the facility is not anywhere near
the Everglades Swamp, and that also they're just using an

(15:06):
airport facility that's been there since the nineteen seventies. So
you know, I think Florida is going to keep you know,
trucking along in terms of handing out the ship administration
with the legal immigration and another angle.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Your question, Lisa to him when you was asking about
the assaults one thousand percent up. And Tom may have
made some news there saying that the prosecutions for those
that impede or assault officers is now double maybe triple.
That's something that just hasn't been seen and so we'll
see where that goes.

Speaker 9 (15:34):
That'll relates with the increase of assault.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh, you bet absolutely all right.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
Proof of the weakness of social Just look at Zohoran Mumdani,
the thirty three year old Socialists who struggled to bench
press one hundred and thirty five pounds at an event
in Brooklyn yesterday and was even shown up by the
city's current sixty four year old mayor. And Mamdani's other opponent,

(16:07):
Andrew Cuomo, is also blasting Zohoran for being two weak
to lead the Big Apple and while the Socialists can't
lift his.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Own body weight.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
The Maha movement is pushing the Pete and Bobby challenge,
encouraging Americans to better themselves through working out. And you
know what, Griff, I'm going to go to you because
you work out probably more than anyone I.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Know at Soul Cycle.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
You know, I want to just talk quickly about the
optics of this.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Twenty twenty four peer research.

Speaker 8 (16:31):
Studies Republican leading men more likely to rate themselves as
highly masculine. And this goes from twenty thirteen a study
in psychology. Faces rated as more dominant, more often received
as Republican. Why do you think that all of a
sudden Democrats are trying to look more masculine. Remember Pete
budajej He like, did some podcasts or whatever. You put

(16:53):
on a flannel, grewsome facial hairs, put an American flag
behind him. He wanted to be Sean Duffy.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, look, I mean the discussion about why in recent
years the Democrat Party has so emasculated the typical male role.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
I mean, that's what men want.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Young men want to be strong, they want to be tough.

Speaker 7 (17:12):
You know, in the.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Gamut is wide with the ways in which a Democrat
Party ran them off because of you know, toxic masculinity
and everything else. But let's go back to mom Scranni,
Mam scrawny, because I love this so he's actually pretty
good with retail politics, and that's why he's appealed to
young people going out in the streets and talking to

(17:34):
people and all that stuff. But here he sees a
photo op and surely he found out that it was
one hundred and thirty five pounds.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Now, if you go.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
To the Googles and ask it, what should an average
man be able to bingch press? Not someone that works
out every single day. And we don't hold it against
Zoran here because I don't know that he goes to
the gym every day or doesn't he should. It says
that you should be able to at least binge press
your weight, and I'm going to guess mom dining weighs
at least one.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Hundred and thirty five pounds.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
But he struggled mightily.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
Well it work out so well, yeah, no, that's a
little embarrassing for him. I'm pretty sure I could bench
that once my shoulders fully rehabbed.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Giano.

Speaker 8 (18:14):
Trump and Republicans talk strength, safety, and order. Democrats seem
to have this chaos circulating them, weakness and just all
these utopian promises. Is this going to be a winning
message for them?

Speaker 10 (18:26):
No, it never is, And we saw that in the
twenty twenty four election. People don't want to be told
that just because they're a man, that they're toxic. To
your point earlier, Griff, that is not what we want
to be told. I go to the gym every day
almost and I got to tell you, I can bitch
press my own weight, and I can go one hundred
and fifty two hundred pounds above that as well. I'm

(18:47):
two twenty if anyone want to know. But this is
where this is where it's become a real issue for
the Democratic Party, and I think to the MAHA movement,
I could appreciate it, especially considering the fact that seventy
four percent according to the CDC of Americans robest.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
When you compare that to the European Union, many of.

Speaker 10 (19:07):
Those countries on average, it's about what seventeen percent, I
believe it is, and that's according to a study from
twenty twenty two. But this is going to be an
opt this issue, but I think is one is not
going to really matter for some of these folks because
they don't work out well.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I think the part of it is Lucia.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
It's just about kind of the optics of this and
one thing that you know, I think of a little bit,
is minded.

Speaker 9 (19:29):
Say real quick that I also work out.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Joda Gun's Laoda guns actually.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
But in all seriousness, one question that I do have,
which we talked about during a break yesterday, is the
fact that Mamdonnie's family fled a country that was kind
of destroyed by some authoritarian and socialistic properties, well policies,
and then he is now trying to bring some of
those socialistic ideations here to the United States. When we're
talking about presidential candidates, there is a reason that they're
supposed to be from the United States because just to

(20:00):
make sure that they have the highest level of loyalty
and the best interests of the United States. Why doesn't
that translate down to state races like governors and mayoral races.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
Well, because the constitution dictates the terms for presidency. You've
got to be thirty five years old, you've got to
be a natural born citizen, you have to be a
resident for fourteen years, whereas if you look at these
state and local elections, they're determined by the state constitution
and or state law. So that's why, and then that
looks different. Right, There's even municipalities in Maryland where you
can be a non citizen, you can be an illegal

(20:29):
alien and run for office there. So that is why
now you look at someone like Mom Donnie, or you
look at someone like elan Omar. Sometimes you have people
who flee these areas and then they bring those problems
to the United States. And then sometimes you have immigrants
who come here, like you know, I know Giano lives
in Miami.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I used to live where.

Speaker 9 (20:48):
You've got a lot of Cubans, a lot of Venezuelans
who fled there who are like, Hey, I hate socialism
and I'm going to be a loud defender of freedom
now that I'm here in America because I don't want
that to happen here. Obviously that's not my because he
clearly loves socialism and he wants to tax you to death,
and then if that doesn't get the job done, he
wants to let the criminals out to finish the job.

Speaker 8 (21:07):
Schwartzeneier was kind of one of the only ones that
kind of came here and said we are not doing
that here. But it is interesting to watch others, just
like California, they all fled went to Texas, making that
a purple state.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
All right, well, still ahead.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
As a Fox News alert, Israel will re pointly carry
out a full scale military takeover of Gaza next month
as a famine is officially declared in the region. Israeli
Ambassador to the US, Michael Leader joins us with a
look at what's next in the war on Hamas plus this,
we have.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
The lowest crime numbers they've had in years, zero murders
in the last week since we've done this.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's a military deployment to Chicago.

Speaker 10 (21:45):
As President Trump eyes the Windy Cities crime crisis, We're
going to.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
Make our country very safe.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
We're going to make our cities very, very safe. Chicago
is a mess.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
You have an incompetent mayor grossly incompetent, and we'll straighten.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
That one probably next. So I think Chicago will be.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Our next, and then we'll help.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
With New York.

Speaker 10 (22:06):
Unsurprisingly, Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson
are pushing back against Trump.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
The city of Chicago does not need a military occupation.
We will take up legal action if necessary, whether it's
my Department of Law or working with the governor. What
this president is doing, He's declared a war on poor people.

Speaker 10 (22:31):
My hometown in Chicago should take a look at what's
going on in DC. Crime has dropped significantly since Trump's crackdown,
and Democrats say it's racism.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
There is nothing they love more than spending racist narratives
talking about crime.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Donald Trump Steven Miller have some of the most racist
policies ever. This militarization going to a black woman mayor's city,
to me, it goes again to the level of racism
and hate that is constantly spewed out of this administration.

Speaker 10 (23:07):
You know, this is a really interesting topic. This is
my hometown in the town that I care about a
great deal, and I lost my brother to violent crime
in Chicago, so I care.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
About this topic very much. I go to you, Griff.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
The people in Chicago have been asking for help, demanding it,
begging for it for a very long time.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I would even argue decades. Shouldn't the JB.

Speaker 10 (23:27):
Pritzker and Mayor Brandon Johnson say hey, let's to work
with you on this and we can reduce violent crime
in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
One hundred percent. Giano, and you are a perfect example.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, there have been more than two hundred and
fifty murders in twenty twenty five in the city of Chicago.
And when Mayor Johnson or Governor Pritzker gets up there
and makes these statements that this is unnecessary, unwanted, uncalled for,
why don't you ask the loved ones of those two
hundred and fifty four six that lost their lives, you

(23:58):
know firsthand and tragically what that feels like. And in Washington,
I've been reporting on that story there and talking to
people there that feel that they're not necessarily Trump voters,
but they're welcoming this. One woman, Assia Tamimi, had her
husband stabbed to death trying to intervene a few years

(24:19):
ago in a robbery. Her eldest son is a paraplegic,
shot nine times. And you know, it's just this eye
opening sort of thing that the president's done that people
in crime ridden cities like Washington or Chicago that learned
to accept and live with it, and they never took
time to, you, i know, to say, wait, it doesn't

(24:40):
have to be like this.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
Yeah, we could change it.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 10 (24:42):
And if you don't have the money to leave the city,
then you're really stuck with the crime. And Lisa, my
very differend. I'm so glad to be here with you. You know,
the Democrats have been arguing that the actions of the
President is racist, but what has become clear to me
over years is seeing a policy black lives oftentimes don't
matter the Democrats is the black vote, and they continue
to create policies that endanger the lives of these African Americans.

(25:05):
And most of the victims in Chicago are African Americans.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
So if they're not doing.

Speaker 10 (25:09):
Something about it, what's the point here?

Speaker 9 (25:12):
We'll say real quick, Gihan was thinking about running for
Senna and Illinois. So if you think you should, let
them know. But I think you've a very good candidate, Abia.
What is racist is defunding the police, so more black
people are murders in the inner city. What President Trump
is trying to do is to save them. Is to
save people in these inner cities. That's not racist, that's
life saving, that's being a warrior for them. I will say,

(25:35):
in Washington, d C. I do think the scenario is
a little bit different than in Chicago because if you
look at Washington, DC, the Constitution grants Congress the authority.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
Over the city.

Speaker 9 (25:44):
The president has the authority over the Home Rule Act
to lead the Metropolitan Police, the DC Police there, and
he also has the distinct job of being in control
of the DC National Guard. Now when you get into
some of these other cities, I don't know, it's a
little bit more legally us, right, it gets to be
a little bit you know. And I know that there's
been calls for the President to enact the or to

(26:05):
invoke the Insurrection Act, like Senator Tom Cotton asked him
to do that during the George Floyd, Right, but you
could argue there was like a rebellion and an insurrection
happening at that time because cities were being burnt down,
police officers were being beat up like.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
In that case.

Speaker 9 (26:18):
That makes sense. So now I don't know. I mean,
I know that he's sending the National Guarden to help
some of these ice agents, which would make sense because
they're just, you know, more in a facilitating role. So
I think it depends on how he does this, what's
the legal justification for it.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
So I don't know. What he's doing.

Speaker 9 (26:34):
In DC, I fully support and it's working forcing the law.
There's been zero murders in over a week. Yeah, Elsewhere
I'd just like to hear the.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Reasoning, No, one hundred percent and Nicole.

Speaker 10 (26:44):
He can bring an ATF, he can bring the DEA,
he can bring in numerous agent FBI, numerous agencies to
help with what's going on.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
In the city of Chicago.

Speaker 10 (26:53):
As an example, there two thousand detective short of the
murder workload there, and the clearance rate is terrible in
the city of Chicago because the police are handcuff what's
your take on this.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Well, so, first of all, of course, Johnson and Pritzk
are not going to open their arms and welcome anything
that Trump is going to do, even if it's for
the good of the people, because this is all politics,
and they're always going to put up res instance, because
they hate Trump more than they love Americans. And that's
the reality. And so while Chicago continues to say, well,
our crime rates are actually down, and they do point

(27:23):
to some rates being down, the reality is since twenty ninth,
but the clearest rate is still down twenty nineteen. Chicago's
down twenty one hundred police officers. Yeah, fewer police officers,
You're going to have significantly fewer arrests.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
And I'll be honest.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
The Justice Department is investigating the DC police right now
for cooking.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
The books about their rates.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
I would be more interested to look at Chicago rates
as well, because all you have to do is talk
to people of Chicago and you know that crime is
still a massive issue and they need help.

Speaker 10 (27:51):
As we mentioned, violent crime is down more than forty
percent in DC and the National Guard isn't done yet.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
At least six.

Speaker 10 (27:58):
Red states are sending a total of twelve hundred additional
troops to DC to help with the crack down. Greff
Jenkins is at our touch screen to break this all
down for us.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Griff. Yeah, Jenna, let's get a little closer look.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
We've heard so much about what's happening in Washington, but
we can show you. We've been a map together for
you now. The twenty two hundred plus National Guard troops
are stationed in about a dozen places right now in Washington.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Just to give you an idea on this. The capital
is right here. This is the Mall.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Obviously, the White House is somewhere back behind that. But
all of these Union station we've seen the troops. There
a lot in Gallery Place north of Massachusetts Avenue, McPherson Square,
Foggy Bottom. That's where GW is, and of course the
National Mall Smithsonian. These are areas that are near metros,
in areas where we have seen a lot of crimes

(28:48):
being committed traditionally, and that's why they are hardening their
position here. Now let's go a little deeper, though, because
I want to show you this is the numbers that
really bring it home. I know, you look at the wards,
because DC is shaped, as you can see here like
a diamond basically, and it's broken up into eight wards.

(29:08):
And some of the wards with the highest numbers you
see here in Ward one twenty one hundred, in Ward
six twenty one hundred, Ward five twenty eight hundred and
forty crimes in twenty twenty five. And then of course
in Ward eight, which is one of the lowest income areas,
they have sixteen hundred. But that numbers low because there's
less police and they underreport that, so that numbers likely higher.

(29:31):
But let's just work with this, right So in Ward five,
where we see the highest amount of crimes, there have
been two hundred in thirty six days this year to
date right now, so if you do the math in
Ward five, there are twelve twelve violent crimes every single day.
Ward five has a population of ninety thousand. Do the math.

(29:55):
That's one in thirty one residents are victims of violent crime.
I'm there here in Ward one nine fine crimes a day,
in Ward six, nine a day, seven in Ward eight.
But as I told you, that number I believe is low.
I want to move here quickly through a couple o things,
some high profile ones that happen.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
You can see here.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
This is the ex dogstaffer Edward Corstin, also known as
Big Balls, was attacked trying to stop a carjacking.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
We all saw that.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Last year Democrat Congressman Henry Quahar car jacked in Navy Yard.
But look at this walking distance to the US capital,
just a few blocks. Edward Corstine attacked just walking distance
a few blocks from.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
The White House. That's how dense and prevalent this crime is.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I want to take you to a couple other things,
and that is the gang activity. We're seeing reports of
gangs arrested every day. It's a complex gang situation in Washington,
DC because you have a mixture of the international transnational
gangs and some crews. The Simple City Crew is known
for carjackings. Kennedy's Crue has had a major drug open

(31:02):
air market that got busted the Riggs Park Crew. You've
likely seen on social media the wild, out of control
gun fights that are waged between these street crews because
DC is so dense these areas control. But then, of
course MS thirteen a designated foreign terrorist organization prevalent in DC,

(31:23):
along with the eighteenth Street Gang, which is a transnational
criminal organization. So who are they picking up in the
days since August seventh the crackdown began, two very serious
members MS thirteen gang member, eighteen Street Gang member. There's
actually been about four or five MS thirteen gang members
and a handful of eighteen Street Gang members as well.

(31:44):
And then I'll just give you one last one, the
worst of the worst. This is just a handful of
those assault, molestation of a minor, second degree rave, aggravated robbery,
and you can see first degree child sexual abuse. This
is the picture of what the crackdown is all about.
And we just wanted to show you just exactly a

(32:04):
little more of how prevalent it is and exactly what
they are getting when they go there. As Democrats, guys
continue to say that this was somehow not necessary, that
this was a waste of time, and that we shouldn't
be doing it, and we'll walk over this way and
get back there. But if when you break it down
and I started looking at the data, because no one's

(32:25):
really looked at it in those wards, it is every
single day multiple violent crimes are being carried out. And
that's why you're hearing from all these residents in DC saying, wow,
as you pointed out, for ten straight days, not one
single murder in Washington, DC compared to what we've seen

(32:47):
just this year.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Really quick.

Speaker 10 (32:49):
Do you think, obviously we know that crime is reduced
because of the surge.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
After the thirty days are over, do you.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
Think the Trump administration will want to renew what kind
of permanent president's presidence may be see in d C?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
That is the operable question
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