September 18, 2024 • 53 mins
In this episode, we continue our journey from a virtual layover and head to South America. We caught up with Sandy Perez in Argentina just before her show. By day, Sandy is a graphic art director; by night, she's a vinyl selector. She’s also the founder of the Revuleta Vinyl Club, a collective dedicated to supporting and empowering women through workshops that keep vinyl culture alive. With a similar mission at heart, we discuss with Sandy how the vinyl market varies across borders, her experiences running her femme collective, her favorite records to spin, and more.
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https://www.instagram.com/revuelta.vinylclub/
https://www.instagram.com/larutadelvinilo/
Sandy's friend that she mentions: https://www.instagram.com/djcecyza
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Big thanks to our indie label partner for the next few months, Final Girl Records, for the use of the song “Fugitive” by Syd Silvair (@sydsilvair), officially releasing on October 1st. Syd’s music blends disco with modern witchcraft, creating a lush and danceable art-pop experience. Final Girl Records is a Brooklyn and LA-based indie label and collective that supports women, trans, and non-binary artists. Learn more about them, this single and more at: https://www.finalgirlrecords.com/
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Visit the website to check out past episodes, features, and our ever growing library of resources to further the education, demystification and diversification of the Vinyl Making Space.
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Check out:
https://womeninvinyl.com/profiles/sandy-perez-vinyl-dj-founder-of-revuleta-vinyl-club
https://www.instagram.com/revuelta.vinylclub/
https://www.instagram.com/larutadelvinilo/
Sandy's friend that she mentions: https://www.instagram.com/djcecyza
One of the bands from her 7”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Yorks
Big thanks to our indie label partner for the next few months, Final Girl Records, for the use of the song “Fugitive” by Syd Silvair (@sydsilvair), officially releasing on October 1st. Syd’s music blends disco with modern witchcraft, creating a lush and danceable art-pop experience. Final Girl Records is a Brooklyn and LA-based indie label and collective that supports women, trans, and non-binary artists. Learn more about them, this single and more at: https://www.finalgirlrecords.com/
Reminder, grab a copy of our book 'Women in Vinyl, the Art of Making Vinyl' is out now! Learn more and buy a copy at: womeninvinyl.com/book
THANK YOU TO OUR SUPPORTERS!
Keep your records clean and sounding great with GrooveWasher. Use WomenInVinyl10 at check out: www.groovewasher.com
Commercial-Free & High Resolution version of this podcast, along with membership options and ton of other discount codes available at: https://www.patreon.com/womeninvinyl
You can also contribute to furthering our mission by donating https://www.womeninvinyl.com/donate as a 501(c)3 all donations are tax deductible.
Visit the website to check out past episodes, features, and our ever growing library of resources to further the education, demystification and diversification of the Vinyl Making Space.
We were listed as number 11 on Feedspot’s Top 25 Vinyl Records Podcasts! Don’t forget to like, subscribe and give us a review on your favorite podcast delivery method! Want to be a sponsor or just get in touch? Email us: info@womeninvinyl.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hmm. Welcome to the Women in Vinyl Podcast with Jen
du Genial, founder of Women in Vinyl, and contributor Robin Raymond.
This podcast facilitates conversations with those working in the vinyl
record industry to educate, demystify, and diversify the vinyl community.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Time speed as this sort.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Good.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Thank you for joining us. On episode fifty four of
the Women in Vinyl Podcast, you just heard a sneak
peek of the new single Fugitive, coming out October first,
by Sid Silver. A world where disco meets modern witchcraft
and divination occurs atop a lush palette of danceable art pop.
Find this single and more brought to you by our
indie label partner for the next couple of months, Final
(01:46):
Girl Records. Final Girl is a Brooklyn and La indie
label and collective supporting women, trans and non binary artists.
Find more at www dot Finalgirl Records dot com. In
this episode, we pick up our bags from this virtual
layover and head to South America. We stole a moment
before her show in Argentina was Sandy Perez, a graphic
(02:09):
art director by day and vinyl selector by night. She's
the founding member of the Revuletta Vinyl Club, a collective
that supports and empowers women through workshops to keep the
vinyl culture alive. We talk with Sandy about how the
vinyl market looks the same but also different across the border,
what it's like running her film collective, and some of
(02:30):
her favorite records to spend and more. Enjoy the episode. Sandy,
to start for our listeners who may not know you,
why don't you tell us a little bit about you
and how you got into vinyl?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, well, hello, I'm Sandy.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I am a graphic r director, mine collector, and since
I was fifteen, I'm a culture manager and recently DJ
and vinyl selector. I am into everything to as well
as art and you seek I can resist. My love
for Bario began when I was a child. I always
(03:07):
had a few female friends. I grew up in a
very masculine environment. My grandfather was a great influence. He
was the one who told me how to use and
maintain his audio equipment, including his turn table. He really
(03:30):
it's not very common to see a girl so involved
in technology at these days.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It perceived perceived.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
As a men's fil and many times in that environment,
they minimize my opinion or because of my age or
how I look. And I met a friend on Instagram.
Her Akai is a sister, she's she's a Parubia but
(04:01):
lives in Brazil. She's a DJ buying collector and the
selectress who also felt the same. We decided to create
Rebla in Peru, Reenta the collective.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
To meet more girls like us.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
And I think we wanted woman to have a voice
in this place and this scene in.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
In in a.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Growth scene, no like djay and a growth scene of buying.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Mm hmm. What was the process like in starting You're
You're Collective?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, it's was born from the concert of a group
of musicians who, with a critical eye, began to notice
the low participation of women and dissidents in the music scene,
as well the limited visibility and dissemination of our artistic work.
(05:10):
And face facially with this reality, we decide to join
forces from a collective made up of women and dissidents,
all music workers connected through the love of binding. Collecting
This is Space not only seeks to promote our presence
in the industry, but also to build a network of
(05:33):
support and collaboration where where our voices and talents have
the place that deserve in the music scene. In essence,
I think the collective is an act of our culture
(05:54):
culture resistance, a space for our stories to be told,
our music to be here, and our collections to being shared.
We currently have a residency in a cultural center with
a bit of a project called creating Events that celebrate
(06:19):
women in music and arts and by helps give them
their own space within the scene of multisensory event that
takes place every Wednesday in Lima with a different artist
projects like poetry, like.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Dance, I don't know, it's the well arts.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
How many people are involved in the collective.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Are twenty twenty women and dissidents with in every different
works like the owners of bars or owners of uh,
(07:18):
I don't know what to say, record stores.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Cool, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, how was it?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Was it easy to get the word out when you're like, hey,
we're going to do this thing and then everybody was
like yeah, let's do the thing, or were you like hey,
come come do this thing and people were a little
more like hesitant or shy.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah at the beginning, m it's like, yeah, we're gonna
do it, and all its working together, But in the
real life it's like very slow. Yeah, to grow up
(08:04):
with every woman and to make a name in the scene.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
We know it very well. You know how that goes.
You guys have such a huge population down there. I
can imagine that it was hard to find your audience
too right and like minded women when you're just getting
so crushed by all the men around you, being like,
oh no, boys play records. You don't play records. No, no, no,
(08:36):
How did you How did you find those like minded women?
Was it all through social media?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes, there's some social media and I I am I
don't know what they say. Are you.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Find the Italians? I find the Italians for recommendation and
also musically format For several bars of Lima, we carry
activt such as free warshops once a month that women
can sign up for free and generate community for music
(09:18):
person buying collectors.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Awesome. I love a meetup. That's great and shout out
what's your what was your granddad's name? What was thats
what was his name?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh, my grandfather's name is Ugle.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
My grandfather did the same thing with me, so.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Oh yeah, I love that. Yeah good, Yeah. I used
to my granddad's records too.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Yeah, I still have all of my granddad's records to you,
did you how big is your collection? I mean, like,
let's talk about collection stuff for a second. How many
how many records do you have?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I think I have over.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
More of a.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
One hundred more. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I I can accountable. I'm quantified. I mean yeah, based
on your Instagram. Like, if people don't know, they need
to check out your Instagram search Hey Sandy, because yeah,
it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
My instagram is Lara perfect.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
They will absolutely link that for everybody to come.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
And generate this in this community. It's it's very.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Very grateful for me because I listen stories of a
woman like me, like has this love for music and
collect In that well, there was a story of the
who wasn't permitted to touch the turntable in his in
(11:06):
her house because her father said, if you touch this turntable,
you are ruining and this created drama for her and
she didn't want to collect or use the turntable because
of this.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
After she shared this story, she felt very peaceful because.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
She didn't talk about this too much and the advantage
of having a community of women and dissidents that passed
through the same experience.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Recently read well, I recently read someone who submitted an
essay who said that she went to a record store
and was interested in DJing, and the man at the
record store said, Oh, women don't typically do any mixing.
They just play songs that they like. And you know,
(12:03):
obviously that's why what we're all talking about is important.
But yeah, it's it's sad to hear that people, yeah
think that.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I mean, I feel like I would have liked to
take that girl to one of those rage places where
you can break things, and I would have brought like
a really bad turntable with her so that she could
break the turntable first and then be like, all right,
let's go actually like touch one and love one now
that you've broken through this little traumatic barrier, because I mean,
(12:32):
that is the worst story I've ever heard of my life.
My god, how terrible, Like, oh no, no, no, you
can't touch that, You'll devalue it, my god, don't no.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
So my biggest question is, obviously you're going to record stores,
where are those records coming from? Because that's like one
of the big things that we always talk about in
this little corner of the world like on a like
on a curse. Look like there's like one record pressing
plant in Chile, like three in Colombia. Uh what else?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
We got.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Maybe five in.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Mexico, two in Portugal. Let's see, we got.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
One in Venezuela. Like where are your records coming from?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well? One in Peru.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
But because a very rich story. In the sixties, the
history industry was booming. Are they both grew like fire.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But then as.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
If time has stopped, a lot of that amazing music
and records was traveled in the time and space. Where
are only now rediscovering those high end treasures there that's
where the diggers, the music race readers and DJ selectors coming.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They are like a you know, like an Indiana Jones.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
And that sounds so awesome. Can we come down and
play record archaeologists because I know it's fun as hell?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yes, yes, right now there are reissuing a lot of
those forgotten records and there in large park thanks for
thanks to Monster Records, Spanish label that both the portfolio
of Peruvian label mark this label.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
I think I have a here we go.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I love a visual aid. This is great. Sorry, everybody
at home that's listening that we can't show you this
but members only right now.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah, and this this pedal was the l of the
first female in the b bany industry in Berruk.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, yeah, very cool. I love her story.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yes, and they are charge.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
They are are in charge of creating the entire sound
archieve and reusing, reusing records and singles that are hard
to find in this country in the rule in good conditions.
On the one hand, vintage records are going up in price,
(15:37):
which is a little bit frustrating for the collectors. But
in the other hand, they they are democratic, democratic scene,
democratic scene music democratizing.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah yeah, Now we can all have a little piece
of history without selling a kidney.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
You wake up in a bathtub full of eyes but
covered in forty five and it's all good. And you're like,
this is fine. This is the lateral transaction. It's all good.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Are you getting many imports?
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yes, it's only one Pabric in Peru, But all the
labels or all the bands and the culture has import
or record is they.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They mused their music like republica take like in the
in Europe.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, I don't know if the way well, the payment
of the import it is very expensive for the the right.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
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Speaker 6 (18:06):
Are you getting crushed with the economy as much as
we are up here? Because now records have come to
kind of a luxury item status in some shops, and
people are either really mad about it or understand or
or whatever. But is it kind of the same. Are
are you guys experiencing the economy the way that we
(18:28):
are too?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yes, it's the price of the vinyls are very expensive,
more expensive year after year.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
After the pandemic. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
When we talked to a couple different people on the podcast,
they were talking about how, you know, in some neighborhoods,
people are choosing like groceries are a record, Like they're
having to make those types of decisions, and I'm guessing
it must feel sort of similar there for some of
the people in your area. Is that the case?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
One of the biggest challenges is that vinyl is still
a niche product. Not everyone understands why someone would pay
more for a vinyl when they have the same music
in DIGITALI. But for as the collectors, it's like having
a piece of art at home. Now.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Another challenge is logistics because.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Imports or producing producing them in UH in other countries
not very easy.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
But if if it were easy, it won't be so
much fun.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
And that's the daily mantra of everybody that works in
records right now. Now, it's got to be the start.
There's there's a reason for it. It's true though, if
it was easy, everybody would do it. I mean, it
feels like everybody kind of does it. But that's because
we're all friends with people that do the thing that
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we like, So of course it's gonna be like, ah,
this is normal, It's fine.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Do you still have the people that are around you
that say, oh, records, Yeah, I heard those are getting
popular again? Is that a popular thing to say down
here too? Do you guys have do you have records
store day in South America?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yes? The same day? Oh in the United States?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
How does it go over in South America? I feel
like you guys, you guys would have way more fun
than we do appear being very repressed and square similar.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's very similar because the.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
The real issues or the editions that go out in
the record store for the record store, they are the
same in the Gin.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
America Okay, not super special regional Peruvian. Now it's Argitian.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Like I said, most records has this.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Project for the real issues of the Max label, and
it's very grateful because it's incredible, the all the archipe
they have in this label, and it's an opportunity for
rediscovered music.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Sounds like our good friend Cheryl Pavelski and Omnivore and
up to That's very cool, Cheryl. If you're listening, I'm
sure that your ears.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Perked up the archive word, let's say, and you just used.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Yeah, that's cool. Now tell us more about like your
day to day is as a record person.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You're on your tour right now?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah, what do you do? What are you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
What is your what are you up to?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
I'm currently in Argentina on tour playing records and events,
and then will I go to Rewaya and Columbia. I'm
really pful for all the support that I received. I
never imaginate with the I would be in this situation
where the music that I always love I will always
(22:39):
be passionate about give me so much joy and opportunities.
It's crazy, right, Like, I feel all the dedication and
love I'm putting into this. Coming back in aver Way.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
What kind of music are you playing.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Today? It's sixties garage.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
American. I love it.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I love that I'm in because in a few hours
I have to pay records.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
I mean, I love it is the most like behind
the scenes recording that we've ever had.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Jen and I are drinking water and you're being awesome,
right we.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
We're usually cool.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
I promise, I promise, we're cool. I promise. So here's
the big question. So you got all the ladies on
your friend like on your side. How are the fellas
around you support? Are they supportive or are they saying like,
oh yeah, great, have your little girl guide meeting about records.
(23:55):
We'll be over here fixing cars or whatever.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
My best friends are totally support and I want to
go to the events there.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
They're very interesting for this this special.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Community of whom. But I have a few friends like
it's like, why it's only for the events?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Are only.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Women selected? There are other spaces for men that I
want to create a space for a woman and it's
like a showcase for for us.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But they don't seem to understand. It's like they they
feel like it's a regreating women and men.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
But we got we got the same thing. When we started.
We had people that said what about men in vinyl?
Or or like can I come to your event if
I'm a guy, And it's like, well, yes.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Again. I mean I feel like we should have just
said no, we're not even going to apologize anymore. It's
just like, no, no, we don't we don't actually want
you here, thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Are those sort of gender roles very prominent throughout South America, Yes.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It's it's very.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Well, but at the time it's like this is a
man thing, this is a woman thing. In Latin America
at these day, it's almost I don't know, I see
these situations every day.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's hard to be progressive in all those
kind of things. And I mean music is one of
those places where it's always going to be one of
the most progressive things because it's the artists and the
people that are just like I can't take it anymore.
I have to write a song about it. That are
going to be the ones that you know, are you know,
(26:31):
on a stage or saying a thing, and then that
gets recorded and then that's how you you know, spark
a revolution and everything. But I mean, I know that
South America is very matriarchical. So like, how how do
your parents feel about what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, my parents are very I don't know, they have
a few friction some day.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Well, it's like my father send me a message yesterday
like don't drink.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Don't drink, sorry, dad, let's see it.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
My mother seems like it for for her, it's like, okay,
I don't. I don't think she understands the situation or
what I want when I want to create a see but.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You're still a graphic designer by day, right, So, I mean,
if there is one thing that I have learned in
this five years of making records, it is that we can't.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Just have one job. We all have to have multiple
jobs in order to.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Yeah, but the this this graphic designer job, having the
facility of design the artworks of the events.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And have the I have these h link in the
community of our.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Time, and it's like a we generate a community not
only for DJs or selectors, but we work with DJs
like in the graphic and motions of UH for.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
For an event, and graphic designers record stores.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Like I said, it's the community of women who quality
but art in the arts scene.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Well, I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Always keeping an eye on what's going on out there.
I love following international DJs record stores on social media. Also,
this byingteur is a dream come true because the social media.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Plays a very important.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Role in my continue to share my love for music
and being able to reach countries around the world.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
When I go out, I always.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Try to visit medical places that every collector dreams of.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Great begin You also have a list of record stores
your dream to be sick.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Oh yeah, it's very definitely long.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, definitely with like minded people.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Yeah, and that's the problem too, because I mean now
with the internet, you find them on the Internet and
you're like, oh, there's so many more that I thought
that there were.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
I've restricted myself in my travels to only buying forty
five's when I go anywhere, though, Like if I buy
a twelve inch, it has to be like really special
because that's got to go and a carry on. It
can't go anywhere else. So yeah, yeah, it gets uh yeah,
I mean, what's the biggest one on your list? What's
like the numeral huno on your travel list? Where do
(30:42):
you want to go?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
And well, I travel around the world when I was Yeah,
because in my material in my work, it was like
I designed products for Martin Marville.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Oh I'm sorry, just excuse me, I just I just
designed South American Barbie Dolls. No, is that Captain South
America that I see.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
That's cool.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
I did that too, great job. Love that.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
I was young and it's a very niche product for
back back to school products. License in this job permit
me to travel around the world for the for bsiting
the plants or b siting the the design workspace in
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like Sanrio in Brazil or Matali in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And this this moment when I was visiting for a job,
I was creating in the in the country I was
in that moment not.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I want to return in Berlin, in Germany, I totally
was crazy because the the the kind and amount of
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vialues and records and labels and reissues are totally mad
and for uh, in that moment, I only collecting sixties.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
But in that in this moment, I collect all like
the it's go whatever, like crazy for the the music
not done in my country, but in all all the countries.
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And I want to be seen the most. Asia.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah yeah, I never go to Asia, and I want
to credit in in Cambodia.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Oh yeah, I bet you'll find some really cool stuff
that will be a.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Gig and a half for sure, because I mean it's
not it's not uh, I mean, it's that's that's pretty
like sneaky dark records. Portion of the world. You know,
nobody thinks of like records Cambodia. You know, it's not
necessarily like the first the first country that comes to
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your mind. I mean, that's that's super.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
It is interesting because you think about all the bootlegs
and stuff that came through there. I bet there's a
lot of really interesting stuff.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
And probably goofy, goofy things that I really want to see. Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I have this.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I don't know, it's a compilate. Yeah, it's a complator
of Camo music. That name Cambodian adds.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
It's like okay.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
In the garage for the sixties.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
A cool. Yeah, I mean I want I want to
I want Jet to take us to the Philippines and
like give us an insider's look. Yeah, listen, my tagalog
is not good, so I definitely I needed a spirit
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guide that way.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
And are your favorite records?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I mean that one's hard because I've I've done a
lot of travel, but I feel like my favorite record
store is the Raikovic Record Store in Iceland because it's
run by some very nice humans and they have their
own little label and they do some really weird Icelandic
punk rock and like screamy metal that I really really love.
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And they're just like kind of buried in the middle
of Raikovic and it's teeny tiny, but it's very cool
and I stumbled upon it by accident.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
It's like, yes, yeah, that's like Permanent Records in LA
I love Permanent Records.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
We really liked another one soon and then next year Japan.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
So yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
I also liked All Ages in Camden Market in uh London,
like in England. That was when that one was really
cool too, because it's like UK hardcore and punk rock
and like that's all that they do. And it was
just like rammed and they have two little Pomeranians in
there that are just like the joys of my life.
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One has one eye and you just he won't stop
barking until you pick him up and like haul him
around with you while you're flipping through records. So thank
you too. I do want to go to Tokyo, and
again I was in Tokyo in two thousand and one,
so I have to go back to Japan. At some point.
But I'd swear that the Tower Records is so I
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feel like I have to make a pilgrimage because just
doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Oh, I'm a cute fun oh funk seven seven punk
and sixties.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
But well, my favorite band the The People.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Oh yeah yeah. I mean we knew you were a
goth sister. We knew it, we knew it.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I just love that we generate those type of people
who are just we're all into the same stuff. I
can create weird Halloween goth shirts and everybody's into it.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
We're like, yes, please, may I have another? No, I
don't want it in white? Thank you. So I know
that it's this might be a little bit controversial, but
how is the queer scene represented representative in the record community?
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Is Like, we find that there's a huge crossover with
the rainbow crowd and record collecting, and as it gets
filters down into younger and younger members, we're seeing that that's,
you know, one of the weird places for kids and
you know, young adults that it's like some are really inclusive,
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some are not as inclusive. Some you know, feel really like,
oh I don't belong here. When it's just a record
store and everybody should be able to go into it.
How is that represented in South America?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Well, we.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
In the rooms, we promote inclusive spaces that well female
and dissidents, a collector enthusiastic worships and meet up focused
in binding collecting that not focus in the genre or whatever,
and music production can provide safe spaces for women and
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dissidents to learn and share their experience, like the story
about the girls that it wasn't permitted touch that turntable
like that, And we have in the community in b
Whenda have a transfer that records not record store, but
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the record store in the internet, like yeah, records in internet.
But she has a space in events for cell records.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Incredible. Yeah, I mean it, I guess it would be.
It's probably much different in Venezuela just because of the
government and everything there. Do you notice that there's you know,
people that are crossing borders to kind of come and
hang out with people that are a little bit more
of their their way.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah in Venezuela.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
In Peru, we have a big community of of Venezuela
and Venezuela people and it's like a well, you're an
immigrant in other countries, it's very difficult, but.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I think the culture it's very.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Similar in Latin more Venezuela, Colombi and Peru, Chile and
Argentina it's more like a more liberal but.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Other in these three countries it's more like religious and
it's it's now the religious Jesus God.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Well, but I think step by step we are going
to grow and fuck the stereotypes.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
Now that like a yeah, I love it. I love it.
What are what are your plans? What are what do
you want to do for the next year.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Have more worships and create not only this community for
people in Perum, but outnd the world. Like if you
are from Iceland, I want to play records in Peru.
That's the contact and I want to I have to
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rechild with my friends or bars or all the community for.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Solutionary This tour or miniature to organize this or articulate
this collected to.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Oh my god, did I just book a South American
DJ tour?
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Well, I was thinking I think I did when I
was reading about the workshops and the collective, and I
was thinking it would be neat if there was some
sort of like a uh no web that we could yeah,
a network that we could all share to kind of
pass along to each other or like become like one
big force station.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Yeah, let's book some let's book some shows. Hell yeah.
I mean I'll find a little portable lathe and come
down and with you. That's that's fun as hell. I mean,
I don't know if you've seen the movie Dirty Dancing
Sandy Perez, but I take my DJ name from Dirty Dancing.
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So my DJ name is Carrie A Watermelon. So I mean,
let's let's get ready to put that on a South
American tour t shirt. I'm ready. I will practice and
hell yeah, and can be my manager.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Let's do it. It's like a very grateful job for this,
like quture manager in my country.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
It's like a dream come through because you met some
very some people are very important musicians in the scene,
and it's like a half a generated.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
This community and article made these arms to make the
dream come true.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Yeah, totally, that's awesome. Sorry, Jen, I cut you off.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
What were you going to No, I was gonna say
who who would you say people should check out that
are other South American DJs or artists that you want
to kind of tell people about.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Well.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
And I love my friend, my soul sister in Brazil.
It's Cisa. She's crazy about records and she's a great DJ.
She she is born in Peru, but she's living in
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So Paulo. Like I think twenty or fifteen years here
in Peru, she didn't felt represented the scene, and she
was early female DJ and didn't have their recognition, recognition
(44:36):
of his work, her work.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
It's like a very.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
Sad to think that in the day of she was
in this scene, didn't I didn't know about her or nothing. No,
because I am from more the punk school and I
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in the in the moment, I think that now electronic sucks.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
I am a puker or yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
And if people want to be involved with your collective
or your workshops, how would they get involved or how
would they link up with you?
Speaker 5 (45:28):
And I have the collective Instagram, it's my dot Bine
club and we are we offer worships once in a month,
like are totally free trans for not centralizing.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
The the the movement.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
They are in different parts of the city in Lima,
but we have workshops. I don't know what to say,
different states and.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Like province.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
Provinces.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, cool.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
We should try to do something virtually next year.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
Yeah, yeah, maybe I'll just come through. I'm always I
have never been to South America. South America is like
the one place, like the one area of the continent
of the world that I haven't Yeah, I would love to.
It looks it.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Looks the food is the most I don't know what
to say, like number one food numbers records.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
In per I mean, you got me. I think I
just watched the YouTube about a guy like eating eating
taco in Peru, I think, and I was like, yeah, okay, done,
that was Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
I don't I don't think it's like a very.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
It's not. Yeah, but yeah, because you're right on the ocean.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
So yeah, yea. All the all the plates, all the
plates in are very very taste.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
I believe. I believe that. I believe absolutely. I don't
know if you have listened to our podcast before, No,
it's okay, So this you're a prime candidate then, So
we always ask the most I think impossible question for
any record collector to answer. So, if you, Sandy Perez,
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could create your own seven inch record that had anything
on the A side and anything on the B side,
what would that record look like mmm, uh huh, it's
harder than the beach like the Desert Island question.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yeah, I think, I think well the.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
David Bowie and I think the side A contains sound
ambition from David Bowie.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Okay, And the other side I think I love I.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
Love a band here in Peru that the name is
Lost Yorks and half a classic.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Rock song that it's Abasa and this is the song.
Uh I want to Okay, I love it.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
No, that's great, that's great the classic B side.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
I gave her.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
I gave Sandy a sneak peek of some of the questions,
but I did not tell her about that one.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Yeah, hey, Sandy, can you spell what that Peruvian band is?
Can you spell that for me?
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeahs l O S. Hello, I don't know. It's Yorks
like New York.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Okay, yeah, well we'll link it in the show notes.
Speaker 6 (49:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna find it.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yeah, and Sandy, I'll follow up with you because I
want to get your friends Instagram and stuff too to
link up.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
I think I have a.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, Okay. This is a.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Long play for the third album.
Speaker 6 (50:15):
Okay, and Abrasami is the is This is the song
for the for the B side.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome, Sandy, thank you so much. This
was so fun.
Speaker 6 (50:29):
Yeah, she's got a hot, hot gig to get to
thank you.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
I'm very excited for this conversation and to man, and
it's very I'm very grateful because the this this community
of women in Bia, it has a very rich to
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people around the world, and it's an opportunity for every
woman who has the interest of collecting or celebrating music
to participate that.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, in the community.
Speaker 6 (51:12):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's exactly it. It's uh, it's
one of those things like nobody else is helping us
do it, so we got to do it our damn
selves and we all look real good while we do it,
and where we couldn't be more happy to have you
on and tell everybody about the cool stuff that you're
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doing down there. Yeah, it's really awesome. I hope that
we get to see it in person when we take
our DJ tour on.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
The road in.
Speaker 6 (51:43):
Yeah, Jen can design all the merchant it's gonna be.
Speaker 7 (51:47):
Great, very good posters.
Speaker 6 (51:49):
It's I mean, we are ready, we are ready for this.
We've been working for this our whole lives here we go.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yeah, we have a great show.
Speaker 6 (51:58):
Yeah, have the have the best time. Drop us a
note if there's anything that we can do for you. Yeah, absolutely,
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Thank you very much for this base and for create
this community, not anything to promote the presence in the industry,
but also the network.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Awesome collaboration.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
Absolutely, and thank you for what you're doing too. We'll
talk to you. We'll talk to you later, fu real soon.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
All right, Bye, bye, Sana, Bye. Nice to meet you too,
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
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Thank you for joining us. On episode fifty four of
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Find this single and more brought to you by our
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Find more at www dot Finalgirl Records dot com. In
this episode, we pick up our bags from this virtual
layover and head to South America. We stole a moment
before her show in Argentina was Sandy Perez, a graphic
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art director by day and vinyl selector by night. She's
the founding member of the Revuletta Vinyl Club, a collective
that supports and empowers women through workshops to keep the
vinyl culture alive. We talk with Sandy about how the
vinyl market looks the same but also different across the border,
what it's like running her film collective, and some of
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her favorite records to spend and more. Enjoy the episode. Sandy,
to start for our listeners who may not know you,
why don't you tell us a little bit about you
and how you got into vinyl?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, well, hello, I'm Sandy.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I am a graphic r director, mine collector, and since
I was fifteen, I'm a culture manager and recently DJ
and vinyl selector. I am into everything to as well
as art and you seek I can resist. My love
for Bario began when I was a child. I always
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had a few female friends. I grew up in a
very masculine environment. My grandfather was a great influence. He
was the one who told me how to use and
maintain his audio equipment, including his turn table. He really
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it's not very common to see a girl so involved
in technology at these days.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It perceived perceived.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
As a men's fil and many times in that environment,
they minimize my opinion or because of my age or
how I look. And I met a friend on Instagram.
Her Akai is a sister, she's she's a Parubia but
(04:01):
lives in Brazil. She's a DJ buying collector and the
selectress who also felt the same. We decided to create
Rebla in Peru, Reenta the collective.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
To meet more girls like us.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
And I think we wanted woman to have a voice
in this place and this scene in.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
In in a.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Growth scene, no like djay and a growth scene of buying.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Mm hmm. What was the process like in starting You're
You're Collective?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, it's was born from the concert of a group
of musicians who, with a critical eye, began to notice
the low participation of women and dissidents in the music scene,
as well the limited visibility and dissemination of our artistic work.
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And face facially with this reality, we decide to join
forces from a collective made up of women and dissidents,
all music workers connected through the love of binding. Collecting
This is Space not only seeks to promote our presence
in the industry, but also to build a network of
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support and collaboration where where our voices and talents have
the place that deserve in the music scene. In essence,
I think the collective is an act of our culture
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culture resistance, a space for our stories to be told,
our music to be here, and our collections to being shared.
We currently have a residency in a cultural center with
a bit of a project called creating Events that celebrate
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women in music and arts and by helps give them
their own space within the scene of multisensory event that
takes place every Wednesday in Lima with a different artist
projects like poetry, like.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Dance, I don't know, it's the well arts.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
How many people are involved in the collective.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Are twenty twenty women and dissidents with in every different
works like the owners of bars or owners of uh,
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I don't know what to say, record stores.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Cool, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, how was it?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Was it easy to get the word out when you're like, hey,
we're going to do this thing and then everybody was
like yeah, let's do the thing, or were you like hey,
come come do this thing and people were a little
more like hesitant or shy.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah at the beginning, m it's like, yeah, we're gonna
do it, and all its working together, But in the
real life it's like very slow. Yeah, to grow up
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with every woman and to make a name in the scene.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
We know it very well. You know how that goes.
You guys have such a huge population down there. I
can imagine that it was hard to find your audience
too right and like minded women when you're just getting
so crushed by all the men around you, being like,
oh no, boys play records. You don't play records. No, no, no,
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How did you How did you find those like minded women?
Was it all through social media?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes, there's some social media and I I am I
don't know what they say. Are you.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Find the Italians? I find the Italians for recommendation and
also musically format For several bars of Lima, we carry
activt such as free warshops once a month that women
can sign up for free and generate community for music
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person buying collectors.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Awesome. I love a meetup. That's great and shout out
what's your what was your granddad's name? What was thats
what was his name?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh, my grandfather's name is Ugle.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
My grandfather did the same thing with me, so.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Oh yeah, I love that. Yeah good, Yeah. I used
to my granddad's records too.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Yeah, I still have all of my granddad's records to you,
did you how big is your collection? I mean, like,
let's talk about collection stuff for a second. How many
how many records do you have?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I think I have over.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
More of a.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
One hundred more. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I I can accountable. I'm quantified. I mean yeah, based
on your Instagram. Like, if people don't know, they need
to check out your Instagram search Hey Sandy, because yeah,
it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
My instagram is Lara perfect.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
They will absolutely link that for everybody to come.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
And generate this in this community. It's it's very.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Very grateful for me because I listen stories of a
woman like me, like has this love for music and
collect In that well, there was a story of the
who wasn't permitted to touch the turntable in his in
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her house because her father said, if you touch this turntable,
you are ruining and this created drama for her and
she didn't want to collect or use the turntable because
of this.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
After she shared this story, she felt very peaceful because.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
She didn't talk about this too much and the advantage
of having a community of women and dissidents that passed
through the same experience.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Recently read well, I recently read someone who submitted an
essay who said that she went to a record store
and was interested in DJing, and the man at the
record store said, Oh, women don't typically do any mixing.
They just play songs that they like. And you know,
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obviously that's why what we're all talking about is important.
But yeah, it's it's sad to hear that people, yeah
think that.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I mean, I feel like I would have liked to
take that girl to one of those rage places where
you can break things, and I would have brought like
a really bad turntable with her so that she could
break the turntable first and then be like, all right,
let's go actually like touch one and love one now
that you've broken through this little traumatic barrier, because I mean,
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that is the worst story I've ever heard of my life.
My god, how terrible, Like, oh no, no, no, you
can't touch that, You'll devalue it, my god, don't no.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
So my biggest question is, obviously you're going to record stores,
where are those records coming from? Because that's like one
of the big things that we always talk about in
this little corner of the world like on a like
on a curse. Look like there's like one record pressing
plant in Chile, like three in Colombia. Uh what else?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
We got.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Maybe five in.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Mexico, two in Portugal. Let's see, we got.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
One in Venezuela. Like where are your records coming from?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well? One in Peru.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
But because a very rich story. In the sixties, the
history industry was booming. Are they both grew like fire.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But then as.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
If time has stopped, a lot of that amazing music
and records was traveled in the time and space. Where
are only now rediscovering those high end treasures there that's
where the diggers, the music race readers and DJ selectors coming.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They are like a you know, like an Indiana Jones.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
And that sounds so awesome. Can we come down and
play record archaeologists because I know it's fun as hell?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yes, yes, right now there are reissuing a lot of
those forgotten records and there in large park thanks for
thanks to Monster Records, Spanish label that both the portfolio
of Peruvian label mark this label.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
I think I have a here we go.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I love a visual aid. This is great. Sorry, everybody
at home that's listening that we can't show you this
but members only right now.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah, and this this pedal was the l of the
first female in the b bany industry in Berruk.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, yeah, very cool. I love her story.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yes, and they are charge.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
They are are in charge of creating the entire sound
archieve and reusing, reusing records and singles that are hard
to find in this country in the rule in good conditions.
On the one hand, vintage records are going up in price,
(15:37):
which is a little bit frustrating for the collectors. But
in the other hand, they they are democratic, democratic scene,
democratic scene music democratizing.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah yeah, Now we can all have a little piece
of history without selling a kidney.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
You wake up in a bathtub full of eyes but
covered in forty five and it's all good. And you're like,
this is fine. This is the lateral transaction. It's all good.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Are you getting many imports?
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yes, it's only one Pabric in Peru, But all the
labels or all the bands and the culture has import
or record is they.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They mused their music like republica take like in the
in Europe.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, I don't know if the way well, the payment
of the import it is very expensive for the the right.
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Speaker 6 (18:06):
Are you getting crushed with the economy as much as
we are up here? Because now records have come to
kind of a luxury item status in some shops, and
people are either really mad about it or understand or
or whatever. But is it kind of the same. Are
are you guys experiencing the economy the way that we
(18:28):
are too?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yes, it's the price of the vinyls are very expensive,
more expensive year after year.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
After the pandemic. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
When we talked to a couple different people on the podcast,
they were talking about how, you know, in some neighborhoods,
people are choosing like groceries are a record, Like they're
having to make those types of decisions, and I'm guessing
it must feel sort of similar there for some of
the people in your area. Is that the case?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
One of the biggest challenges is that vinyl is still
a niche product. Not everyone understands why someone would pay
more for a vinyl when they have the same music
in DIGITALI. But for as the collectors, it's like having
a piece of art at home. Now.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Another challenge is logistics because.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Imports or producing producing them in UH in other countries
not very easy.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
But if if it were easy, it won't be so
much fun.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
And that's the daily mantra of everybody that works in
records right now. Now, it's got to be the start.
There's there's a reason for it. It's true though, if
it was easy, everybody would do it. I mean, it
feels like everybody kind of does it. But that's because
we're all friends with people that do the thing that
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we like, So of course it's gonna be like, ah,
this is normal, It's fine.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Do you still have the people that are around you
that say, oh, records, Yeah, I heard those are getting
popular again? Is that a popular thing to say down
here too? Do you guys have do you have records
store day in South America?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yes? The same day? Oh in the United States?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
How does it go over in South America? I feel
like you guys, you guys would have way more fun
than we do appear being very repressed and square similar.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's very similar because the.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
The real issues or the editions that go out in
the record store for the record store, they are the
same in the Gin.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
America Okay, not super special regional Peruvian. Now it's Argitian.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Like I said, most records has this.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Project for the real issues of the Max label, and
it's very grateful because it's incredible, the all the archipe
they have in this label, and it's an opportunity for
rediscovered music.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Sounds like our good friend Cheryl Pavelski and Omnivore and
up to That's very cool, Cheryl. If you're listening, I'm
sure that your ears.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Perked up the archive word, let's say, and you just used.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Yeah, that's cool. Now tell us more about like your
day to day is as a record person.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You're on your tour right now?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah, what do you do? What are you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
What is your what are you up to?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
I'm currently in Argentina on tour playing records and events,
and then will I go to Rewaya and Columbia. I'm
really pful for all the support that I received. I
never imaginate with the I would be in this situation
where the music that I always love I will always
(22:39):
be passionate about give me so much joy and opportunities.
It's crazy, right, Like, I feel all the dedication and
love I'm putting into this. Coming back in aver Way.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
What kind of music are you playing.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Today? It's sixties garage.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
American. I love it.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I love that I'm in because in a few hours
I have to pay records.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
I mean, I love it is the most like behind
the scenes recording that we've ever had.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Jen and I are drinking water and you're being awesome,
right we.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
We're usually cool.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
I promise, I promise, we're cool. I promise. So here's
the big question. So you got all the ladies on
your friend like on your side. How are the fellas
around you support? Are they supportive or are they saying like,
oh yeah, great, have your little girl guide meeting about records.
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We'll be over here fixing cars or whatever.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
My best friends are totally support and I want to
go to the events there.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
They're very interesting for this this special.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Community of whom. But I have a few friends like
it's like, why it's only for the events?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Are only.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Women selected? There are other spaces for men that I
want to create a space for a woman and it's
like a showcase for for us.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But they don't seem to understand. It's like they they
feel like it's a regreating women and men.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
But we got we got the same thing. When we started.
We had people that said what about men in vinyl?
Or or like can I come to your event if
I'm a guy, And it's like, well, yes.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Again. I mean I feel like we should have just
said no, we're not even going to apologize anymore. It's
just like, no, no, we don't we don't actually want
you here, thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Are those sort of gender roles very prominent throughout South America, Yes.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It's it's very.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Well, but at the time it's like this is a
man thing, this is a woman thing. In Latin America
at these day, it's almost I don't know, I see
these situations every day.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's hard to be progressive in all those
kind of things. And I mean music is one of
those places where it's always going to be one of
the most progressive things because it's the artists and the
people that are just like I can't take it anymore.
I have to write a song about it. That are
going to be the ones that you know, are you know,
(26:31):
on a stage or saying a thing, and then that
gets recorded and then that's how you you know, spark
a revolution and everything. But I mean, I know that
South America is very matriarchical. So like, how how do
your parents feel about what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, my parents are very I don't know, they have
a few friction some day.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Well, it's like my father send me a message yesterday
like don't drink.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Don't drink, sorry, dad, let's see it.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
My mother seems like it for for her, it's like, okay,
I don't. I don't think she understands the situation or
what I want when I want to create a see but.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You're still a graphic designer by day, right, So, I mean,
if there is one thing that I have learned in
this five years of making records, it is that we can't.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Just have one job. We all have to have multiple
jobs in order to.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Yeah, but the this this graphic designer job, having the
facility of design the artworks of the events.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And have the I have these h link in the
community of our.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Time, and it's like a we generate a community not
only for DJs or selectors, but we work with DJs
like in the graphic and motions of UH for.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
For an event, and graphic designers record stores.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Like I said, it's the community of women who quality
but art in the arts scene.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Well, I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Always keeping an eye on what's going on out there.
I love following international DJs record stores on social media. Also,
this byingteur is a dream come true because the social media.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Plays a very important.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Role in my continue to share my love for music
and being able to reach countries around the world.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
When I go out, I always.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Try to visit medical places that every collector dreams of.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Great begin You also have a list of record stores
your dream to be sick.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Oh yeah, it's very definitely long.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, definitely with like minded people.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Yeah, and that's the problem too, because I mean now
with the internet, you find them on the Internet and
you're like, oh, there's so many more that I thought
that there were.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
I've restricted myself in my travels to only buying forty
five's when I go anywhere, though, Like if I buy
a twelve inch, it has to be like really special
because that's got to go and a carry on. It
can't go anywhere else. So yeah, yeah, it gets uh yeah,
I mean, what's the biggest one on your list? What's
like the numeral huno on your travel list? Where do
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you want to go?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
And well, I travel around the world when I was Yeah,
because in my material in my work, it was like
I designed products for Martin Marville.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Oh I'm sorry, just excuse me, I just I just
designed South American Barbie Dolls. No, is that Captain South
America that I see.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
That's cool.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
I did that too, great job. Love that.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
I was young and it's a very niche product for
back back to school products. License in this job permit
me to travel around the world for the for bsiting
the plants or b siting the the design workspace in
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like Sanrio in Brazil or Matali in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And this this moment when I was visiting for a job,
I was creating in the in the country I was
in that moment not.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I want to return in Berlin, in Germany, I totally
was crazy because the the the kind and amount of
(32:35):
vialues and records and labels and reissues are totally mad
and for uh, in that moment, I only collecting sixties.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
But in that in this moment, I collect all like
the it's go whatever, like crazy for the the music
not done in my country, but in all all the countries.
(33:12):
And I want to be seen the most. Asia.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah yeah, I never go to Asia, and I want
to credit in in Cambodia.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Oh yeah, I bet you'll find some really cool stuff
that will be a.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Gig and a half for sure, because I mean it's
not it's not uh, I mean, it's that's that's pretty
like sneaky dark records. Portion of the world. You know,
nobody thinks of like records Cambodia. You know, it's not
necessarily like the first the first country that comes to
(33:53):
your mind. I mean, that's that's super.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
It is interesting because you think about all the bootlegs
and stuff that came through there. I bet there's a
lot of really interesting stuff.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
And probably goofy, goofy things that I really want to see. Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I have this.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I don't know, it's a compilate. Yeah, it's a complator
of Camo music. That name Cambodian adds.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
It's like okay.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
In the garage for the sixties.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
A cool. Yeah, I mean I want I want to
I want Jet to take us to the Philippines and
like give us an insider's look. Yeah, listen, my tagalog
is not good, so I definitely I needed a spirit
(34:54):
guide that way.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
And are your favorite records?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I mean that one's hard because I've I've done a
lot of travel, but I feel like my favorite record
store is the Raikovic Record Store in Iceland because it's
run by some very nice humans and they have their
own little label and they do some really weird Icelandic
punk rock and like screamy metal that I really really love.
(35:30):
And they're just like kind of buried in the middle
of Raikovic and it's teeny tiny, but it's very cool
and I stumbled upon it by accident.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
It's like, yes, yeah, that's like Permanent Records in LA
I love Permanent Records.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
We really liked another one soon and then next year Japan.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
So yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
I also liked All Ages in Camden Market in uh London,
like in England. That was when that one was really
cool too, because it's like UK hardcore and punk rock
and like that's all that they do. And it was
just like rammed and they have two little Pomeranians in
there that are just like the joys of my life.
(36:12):
One has one eye and you just he won't stop
barking until you pick him up and like haul him
around with you while you're flipping through records. So thank
you too. I do want to go to Tokyo, and
again I was in Tokyo in two thousand and one,
so I have to go back to Japan. At some point.
But I'd swear that the Tower Records is so I
(36:36):
feel like I have to make a pilgrimage because just
doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Oh, I'm a cute fun oh funk seven seven punk
and sixties.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
But well, my favorite band the The People.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Oh yeah yeah. I mean we knew you were a
goth sister. We knew it, we knew it.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I just love that we generate those type of people
who are just we're all into the same stuff. I
can create weird Halloween goth shirts and everybody's into it.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
We're like, yes, please, may I have another? No, I
don't want it in white? Thank you. So I know
that it's this might be a little bit controversial, but
how is the queer scene represented representative in the record community?
(37:40):
Is Like, we find that there's a huge crossover with
the rainbow crowd and record collecting, and as it gets
filters down into younger and younger members, we're seeing that that's,
you know, one of the weird places for kids and
you know, young adults that it's like some are really inclusive,
(38:01):
some are not as inclusive. Some you know, feel really like,
oh I don't belong here. When it's just a record
store and everybody should be able to go into it.
How is that represented in South America?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Well, we.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
In the rooms, we promote inclusive spaces that well female
and dissidents, a collector enthusiastic worships and meet up focused
in binding collecting that not focus in the genre or whatever,
and music production can provide safe spaces for women and
(38:41):
dissidents to learn and share their experience, like the story
about the girls that it wasn't permitted touch that turntable
like that, And we have in the community in b
Whenda have a transfer that records not record store, but
(39:06):
the record store in the internet, like yeah, records in internet.
But she has a space in events for cell records.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Incredible. Yeah, I mean it, I guess it would be.
It's probably much different in Venezuela just because of the
government and everything there. Do you notice that there's you know,
people that are crossing borders to kind of come and
hang out with people that are a little bit more
of their their way.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah in Venezuela.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
In Peru, we have a big community of of Venezuela
and Venezuela people and it's like a well, you're an
immigrant in other countries, it's very difficult, but.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I think the culture it's very.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Similar in Latin more Venezuela, Colombi and Peru, Chile and
Argentina it's more like a more liberal but.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Other in these three countries it's more like religious and
it's it's now the religious Jesus God.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Well, but I think step by step we are going
to grow and fuck the stereotypes.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
Now that like a yeah, I love it. I love it.
What are what are your plans? What are what do
you want to do for the next year.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Have more worships and create not only this community for
people in Perum, but outnd the world. Like if you
are from Iceland, I want to play records in Peru.
That's the contact and I want to I have to
(41:28):
rechild with my friends or bars or all the community for.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Solutionary This tour or miniature to organize this or articulate
this collected to.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Oh my god, did I just book a South American
DJ tour?
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Well, I was thinking I think I did when I
was reading about the workshops and the collective, and I
was thinking it would be neat if there was some
sort of like a uh no web that we could yeah,
a network that we could all share to kind of
pass along to each other or like become like one
big force station.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Yeah, let's book some let's book some shows. Hell yeah.
I mean I'll find a little portable lathe and come
down and with you. That's that's fun as hell. I mean,
I don't know if you've seen the movie Dirty Dancing
Sandy Perez, but I take my DJ name from Dirty Dancing.
(42:32):
So my DJ name is Carrie A Watermelon. So I mean,
let's let's get ready to put that on a South
American tour t shirt. I'm ready. I will practice and
hell yeah, and can be my manager.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Let's do it. It's like a very grateful job for this,
like quture manager in my country.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
It's like a dream come through because you met some
very some people are very important musicians in the scene,
and it's like a half a generated.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
This community and article made these arms to make the
dream come true.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Yeah, totally, that's awesome. Sorry, Jen, I cut you off.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
What were you going to No, I was gonna say
who who would you say people should check out that
are other South American DJs or artists that you want
to kind of tell people about.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Well.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
And I love my friend, my soul sister in Brazil.
It's Cisa. She's crazy about records and she's a great DJ.
She she is born in Peru, but she's living in
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So Paulo. Like I think twenty or fifteen years here
in Peru, she didn't felt represented the scene, and she
was early female DJ and didn't have their recognition, recognition
(44:36):
of his work, her work.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
It's like a very.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
Sad to think that in the day of she was
in this scene, didn't I didn't know about her or nothing. No,
because I am from more the punk school and I
(45:08):
in the in the moment, I think that now electronic sucks.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
I am a puker or yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
And if people want to be involved with your collective
or your workshops, how would they get involved or how
would they link up with you?
Speaker 5 (45:28):
And I have the collective Instagram, it's my dot Bine
club and we are we offer worships once in a month,
like are totally free trans for not centralizing.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
The the the movement.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
They are in different parts of the city in Lima,
but we have workshops. I don't know what to say,
different states and.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Like province.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
Provinces.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, cool.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
We should try to do something virtually next year.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
Yeah, yeah, maybe I'll just come through. I'm always I
have never been to South America. South America is like
the one place, like the one area of the continent
of the world that I haven't Yeah, I would love to.
It looks it.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Looks the food is the most I don't know what
to say, like number one food numbers records.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
In per I mean, you got me. I think I
just watched the YouTube about a guy like eating eating
taco in Peru, I think, and I was like, yeah, okay, done,
that was Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
I don't I don't think it's like a very.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
It's not. Yeah, but yeah, because you're right on the ocean.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
So yeah, yea. All the all the plates, all the
plates in are very very taste.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
I believe. I believe that. I believe absolutely. I don't
know if you have listened to our podcast before, No,
it's okay, So this you're a prime candidate then, So
we always ask the most I think impossible question for
any record collector to answer. So, if you, Sandy Perez,
(48:01):
could create your own seven inch record that had anything
on the A side and anything on the B side,
what would that record look like mmm, uh huh, it's
harder than the beach like the Desert Island question.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yeah, I think, I think well the.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
David Bowie and I think the side A contains sound
ambition from David Bowie.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Okay, And the other side I think I love I.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
Love a band here in Peru that the name is
Lost Yorks and half a classic.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Rock song that it's Abasa and this is the song.
Uh I want to Okay, I love it.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
No, that's great, that's great the classic B side.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
I gave her.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
I gave Sandy a sneak peek of some of the questions,
but I did not tell her about that one.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Yeah, hey, Sandy, can you spell what that Peruvian band is?
Can you spell that for me?
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeahs l O S. Hello, I don't know. It's Yorks
like New York.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Okay, yeah, well we'll link it in the show notes.
Speaker 6 (49:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna find it.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yeah, and Sandy, I'll follow up with you because I
want to get your friends Instagram and stuff too to
link up.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
I think I have a.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, Okay. This is a.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Long play for the third album.
Speaker 6 (50:15):
Okay, and Abrasami is the is This is the song
for the for the B side.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome, Sandy, thank you so much. This
was so fun.
Speaker 6 (50:29):
Yeah, she's got a hot, hot gig to get to
thank you.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
I'm very excited for this conversation and to man, and
it's very I'm very grateful because the this this community
of women in Bia, it has a very rich to
(50:57):
people around the world, and it's an opportunity for every
woman who has the interest of collecting or celebrating music
to participate that.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, in the community.
Speaker 6 (51:12):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's exactly it. It's uh, it's
one of those things like nobody else is helping us
do it, so we got to do it our damn
selves and we all look real good while we do it,
and where we couldn't be more happy to have you
on and tell everybody about the cool stuff that you're
(51:32):
doing down there. Yeah, it's really awesome. I hope that
we get to see it in person when we take
our DJ tour on.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
The road in.
Speaker 6 (51:43):
Yeah, Jen can design all the merchant it's gonna be.
Speaker 7 (51:47):
Great, very good posters.
Speaker 6 (51:49):
It's I mean, we are ready, we are ready for this.
We've been working for this our whole lives here we go.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yeah, we have a great show.
Speaker 6 (51:58):
Yeah, have the have the best time. Drop us a
note if there's anything that we can do for you. Yeah, absolutely,
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Thank you very much for this base and for create
this community, not anything to promote the presence in the industry,
but also the network.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Awesome collaboration.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
Absolutely, and thank you for what you're doing too. We'll
talk to you. We'll talk to you later, fu real soon.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
All right, Bye, bye, Sana, Bye. Nice to meet you too,
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
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