David & Goliath Untold w/ Adam Farris

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Right off the bat, it's five stones. They're miscommunicated because
all we think about is Goliath with the one stone.
Why did he have five stones? He did not get
five because he was scared he was gonna miss That's
not fake. He had five stones because there were five
giants there. And that's a huge part of the story
that no one, ever, ever, ever, ever talks about. And

(00:26):
it's like, you know, God wrote this book and we're
not even talking about it right Like I would get irritated.
I'd get irritated. So you see, whenever you see Goliath,
they're in the background. They're not there in our face,
but they are in the background. There's always five giants
trying to highlight that stuff. Now, first time you see Goliath,
he's in really makeshift leather, a little bit of metal.

(00:49):
Next time you see Goliath, he's head to toe suit
of armor.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
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(02:26):
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guest in. Now. This is Adam Ferris. So Adam and

(05:58):
I actually had a really great conversation a couple weeks ago.
He actually reached out to me, sent me and Ben
both a awesome graphic novel that you can kind of
see in the background.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
There.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I'm gonna go ahead and just taking full screen so
you can kind of see this poster in the background,
that five stones graphic novel that you can see right there.
There you go, see it's all backwards, Adam, Then you
got a point, man, It's all it's all right doing
backwards when you look in the camera, right, it's like
looking in the mirror. It's all all weird. But yeah, man,
he sent us this awesome graphic novel that focused on,
Hey what else the story of David and Goliath, And

(06:30):
it's so amazing to me. I cannot tell you, guys
how many times we have had something come up and
we time all these out many many weeks ahead of time.
A lot of times the guests even pick when they're
gonna come on the show, and you know, they picked
the specific date, and a lot of times they have
to pick like sixty days out. I think you might
add to pick sixty days out Adam. At the time,

(06:51):
we were pretty booked up. And it's just amazing to
me how we have these things happen. But yet it
still times out just perfect for something that's been in
the news or something that's been popular on TV, or
something that's going on. And that is very much the
case for today because we're going to be talking about
House of David and that whole story, because that's become
a huge thing right now. And if you've not checked

(07:13):
out House to David on Amazon Prime, I would highly
encourage you to do so. But if you want to
learn more about Adam, you can actually go over to
his substack account, which is e Adam Ferris not Substanti
dot com, so e a d A, M F A
R R I S dot substack dot com and you
can find out more about him. I always like to

(07:33):
read that out for you guys that are listening and
not watching, just to make sure we're getting you to
the right place. Adam, it's great to have you on
my friend. I'm excited to have our talk today.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yes, I appreciate it. I very much appreciate it, looking
forward to it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, he's nervous, so don't be too. Don't be too
harshawn h man. So, no, he's good joining us. You're
always on checking things out, and of course my wife.
But I'm sure we've got several others on here. Melissa,
we see you up there. So thank you guys very
much for joining us. And again, if you guys want
to join the conversation, you want to throw comments or
questions over while we're talking at them today, feel free.
We'd love to incorporate you guys. So, Adam, for starters, man,

(08:08):
you know, we're going to kind of take them back,
and obviously you and I talked, but I want to
kind of let them know and fill them in. Just
share the backstory man, of how you kind of got
into this journey where you started doing the writing and
the graphic novel stuff and all that, especially you know,
Five Stones, because that was kind of think launching point
for you.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, it's I appreciate it. It's been a wild three years.
Started roughly September twenty twenty two. I was just a
company man, you know, I was I was born and
raised in the church, but I had left when I
was seventeen, and it was kind of I've been a
manager at that point for thirteen years and was kind
of getting really stressed out. And at the end of

(08:48):
end of my journey and writing was really on my
heart and I didn't know anything about it. I didn't
couldn't figure nothing out. It was just was there. And
then in September, my father passed unexpectedly sixty three years old.
Wasn't like horrible health or anything, and it hit the
family really really hard. And then through those couple of months,

(09:13):
I felt the knocking to write a really really gritty,
uh you know, to the scripture David and Goliath novel.
And initially that's kind of what it was, was just
write the book and then see where we go from there.
These this three years has been wild. It's been developing
over time to the point where I spent hours and

(09:36):
hours of biblical research just finding finding new things. I
feel like, you know, now at this point, the Bible
has been extremely misinterpreted and glossed and miscommunicated. And this
was a sign to me that that God wants us
to talk about the real story, to not skip details

(09:57):
because they're uncomfortable. Just get down to the nitty gritty
as you can kind of see behind me. It is
a bloody story. There's a lot of bloody stories. You
don't focus on the blood, focus on the point and
what the story is about. And and yeah, I'm working
on my second book now, Great Fish, a really esoteric

(10:19):
look at Jonah. So uh yeah, that's me. That's what
I've been working on. Brother.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, man, you had you had kind of mentioned leaving
the church at seventeen years old. What was the catalyst
for that?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
So that you know that's that's a great that's a
great question. I like to start off with that one.
I've I've always and just like all of us in
this in this group, the had curiosity. Something didn't seem right.
You know, we're being told this, but then you know,
you get signs of this why is there a pyramid?
And why do we have a pyramid on our dollar?

(10:52):
So I just I just naturally had a lot of well,
let's uh, I had a lot of questions and and
nobody could really you know, I'm I'm forty three, so
I'm from the old school generation where you don't question things.
You just take you know, you know, Psalms, yeah, yeah,
psalms and all that stuff. So like, you know, around seventeen,

(11:15):
the church I was going to had one of those
worshiping the pastor not God thing and it got a
people place and not church. And you know, at seventeen,
you know, you know my brother, I have an older brother,
he had already moved out to my folks kind of
like what's up to you now, you know if you
go or not? And I just I felt things were missing,

(11:40):
and so you know, I left. And I've always, you know,
I've always you know, I've got crazy stories I can
tell you for when I was a kid. I've always
known God in my life and known that I'm supposed
to do something, but I could not for forty some
years figure it out. So I've always I've never strayed
from God, just you know, I was just trying to

(12:02):
figure things out on my own, which isn't always the
best way to do things. But but uh yeah, And
that's what's so awesome about this journey, was I I feel,
you know, I'm still learning, I don't know everything, but
I feel a better understanding of God and well I
feel the love now, you know what I mean. Like

(12:22):
I've I've been able to connect the dots and you know,
of course I've got I've got kids, So that's really
awesome to be able to I don't hold back. You know,
they know that there's giants and then they know that
there's hybrids and linemen and stuff. I'm you know, I'm
not going to hold it back, so I get to
bring them in. But but with the whole thing. So

(12:45):
that's kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah. Man, one of the things that question, I was
actually just writing time to ask you, and I didn't
even get finished. So this is awesome. I'm just gonna
I'm just gonna ask you. Now, have you seen God
kind of use you since you've you've you've kind of
taken this gifting that you have, this passion that you have,
and you've started to you know, turn back to Him
or whatever and and really start to dive into this.
Have you seen him use that in your life and

(13:09):
to pull you closer and to kind of point you
down avenues that you never would have thought of yourself.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah. Yeah. So one thing that I've I've really really
enjoyed is when people see the book and I I
the my most favorite feedback is wow, that makes me
look at it a little differently. You know that that
to me is God, you know, being like see I

(13:36):
told you so, Yeah, being able to really get you know,
and I'm I'm I've been hearing from people that say
it like I'm not a spiritual person, but this is
really cool and this is kind of you know, opened me,
opened my eyes because that's the point, you know, like
you look at mainstream tells us there's there might be

(13:57):
one giant and that's kind of that, and it is
a completely different story. There's been so many times like
at church. You know, what I've been learning is is
listening to God what that really means. And I'll be
at church and you know, I'll be listening and then
I'll I'll be getting something and then we'll you know,

(14:18):
on the way home or later that night, my wife's like, hey,
what'd you think of that? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was pretty good today. And she's like, did you
think about your book? And it's like literally I was,
and I'm man, I'm gonna tell you these three years
it's been wild stories. I'll tell you a really good one,
real real quick. When the art was done, I was

(14:41):
trying to do a black and white sin City things
like really really aggressive, but it just it was missing something.
So you know, I financed this thing, you myself. God
put me in that direction. So then when I got
to the ink ink like, I had to talk to
another artist and just it wasn't feeling right and I

(15:02):
was I bounce everything off my wife. So I was like, hey, uh,
you know, I got this thing when my head went through.
My head was like, uh, you painted, and I'm not
a painter by any stretch, never have, so bounce it
off my wife and uh, you know, so far she'd
been going, you know, gung ho with everything, and then
but then when I told her the paintings kind of like, well,

(15:25):
you know, dude, you gotta do. So I was laying
in bed. This was super early on in the story.
So I'm laying in bed and uh, I'm like, what
are you doing? You're writing a book, comic book and
you go paint? What are you doing? At him? And
and and I and but I knew to my core
that I was being led to do this. So so

(15:48):
I just laying in bed. I was like, can you
make a sound or something let me know that I'm
I'm in the right direction please, Cause again this was early.
You know, I've progress in my talking to him over there.
But uh, and I said that, and I heard the

(16:09):
loudest I would say, trumpet is you know for reference?
I just heard this blast. It was like a really
deep tone and to my core, like I you know,
I laid bed and it in in. All I could
say was yes, sir, for I don't I don't want

(16:30):
to look up it was and then you know, so
I got to you. I told my wife, and I
got to thinking about it. And every time in the Bible,
anytime sees any anytime anybody sees an angel, you know,
angel of God or you know whatever, they always everybody
does the same thing. They dropped to the dropped to
my knees. And they didn't do that on purpose. It

(16:51):
was a reaction. I can confidently say that because I
felt from my head to my I couldn't move man,
and I you know, I'm not. I'm not like that,
you know. So I just locked up. And the way
to explain it was like like it knew me, if
that makes sense, Like I could feel it and it

(17:13):
was like talking to me. It was a comfort, but
there was also like a reverence, you know. So that
is something that I've held on to this entire time
because I'm I am a super adam doubterer. I'm one
of the people. There's a lot of us on this
planet and it's constantly like are you should are you right?

(17:35):
And I always keep going back to that, and it's like,
you know, so then again, you know, to answer, like
I said earlier, when I send it out and and
people are I get that, like, oh this is different.
You know, well maybe I want to go back and
look at that. It's like, that's what this whole thing's
been about. It's got nothing to do with me. And
I you know, I'm I was just a vessel, that's

(17:57):
all I was. Just I gave in and said, you know,
use me. I feel like you want me to do this,
so please help me do it, you know, I'll do it.
Just help me. I don't know how to do it,
which you know, he he, He walked me through finding
the artist, doing the art, actually water coloring it, finding
a printer like everything. You know. I had to figure

(18:19):
out how to do the uh the letter in you know,
comic book. And I remember telling my wife like, oh great,
now I got to figure this out.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
She's like, he's gonna show you, so it's gonna be
all good. And I was like, yeah, you're right, you're right,
and he and he did so. Yeah. Man, it's been
just a wild three years. I can't say it enough.
Anybody that just just jump in.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Jumah, you got to if you feel the call. Man,
It's it's one of those where it's it's easier to
deny and to say no than it is to just
jump in. And you know, pray for guidance. You know,
we're my wife and I are in a season right now.
We're praying for some guidance and you know, man, we'd
love to hear so far, dude, that'd be pretty awesome.
So we're praying for our own a so far moment.

(19:01):
I had a funny joke too. I was going to say,
so that's the loudest trumpet you've heard so far. Yeah,
so there you go. Now that's a cool story, man,
thanks for sharing that with us. So I guess it's
kind of dive in a little bit more. Why David,
Why that particular David and Goliath story? Why that? Why
was that the bell ringer for you that you wanted
to focus on?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yes, So initially I had no idea. I just it
was like kind of a two part and it's just
it's so wild too. And I can constantly say this
is a bold statement, but to watch God work like
it's it's just wild. So just writing was on the heart,

(19:43):
and I didn't know what to write. I just wanted
to write. So you know, I'm a comic book guy,
so I found a comic book that I liked as
a kid. I was like, am I write a screenplay
and we're gonna make a movie and blah. So I'm
just like googling how to write a screenplay? No idea,
no direction, was just writing. So after my my father passed,
literally at his at his funeral, all his buddies were

(20:06):
telling me about these crazy stories about when he was
a kid, and I'm like, man, I'm gonna write a
story about that man, because it's just just I just
wanted to write. And if you think about when Moses
was told how to make the temple and all that stuff,
and he came down, he gave the talents to the
people to actually build the temple, so like it's it

(20:27):
just happens naturally. It's it's just it's just it's wild.
But so after my father passed, some time went by,
I just started thinking about David and Goliath all the time.
And I believe my time and management was training on
how to research the Bible. You know we talked before,

(20:49):
you know, I root cause analysis. I've been doing that
for a long time. I don't miss bonuses. If there's
a KPI or metrics, I nail it. I crush it
because I am hyper and on details. I was I
was trained. The mindset I have is grains of sand.
My mentor told me, you can't be better than everybody
if you're doing it the same way. So you've got

(21:11):
to focus on the tiny, tiny details, grains of sand.
So at that time, I'm thinking about Dave and Goliath,
and I'm just thinking about the others, like what did
it look like and what was there more, you know,
in not the normal way, and I guess, you know,
God was just like picking it apart in my head.
So I ride it. And it's funny because you know,

(21:36):
my wife's awesome. She's she's God's gonna talk to you
partners to get ready for that buddy. Yo. One day
I was like, I'm kind of getting tired of listen
to the radio because I was I had a driving
job at that point. Uh uh, traveling manager job. So uh,

(21:59):
She's like, listen to some podcasts. Everyone's talking about podcasts.
You know this three years ago. So I remember when
I was younger and I was doing my really curiosity
stuff and I remember reading about Nephlim. So I'm like, man,
I wonder if there's any podcasts about Nefholim, Right? So

(22:20):
I just went down every rabbit hole and you saw
I gave a shout out to Gary Wayne. I ended
up calling the artist and was like, man, I gotta
I gotta read, I gotta edit the script a little bit.
This is a bigger story. And that's when it clicked
of why it was David Gliath. So I had no idea.
I was just gonna do this thing. And you know,

(22:41):
try to do my thing. But the the Nephilum aspect
is all the way across the entire Bible, way more
than we realize it. And I believe it has a
lot to do with David and Goliath, because you you know,
you remember David. David kills Goliath and then he's got
to run from Saul, and even he builds his gibe

(23:04):
Him army, he builds his mighty men army. All of
those well most of them are giants, and there's a
bunch of hybrids, and I mean, even to the point
obed Edom was a get tight and and so I
as I'm studying, I'm finding more and more and more
giants and and so that's when it clicked, because David

(23:28):
and Gliath is an awesome segue into all of the
extra stuff, and it's a really misunderstood story. And honestly, honestly,
I think you know, we you know, we all know
God loves David. So I think that too was was
a thing of of like, if you're going to start,
start here, I'm very proud of this guy. And the

(23:49):
story is is is way more complex, and and yeah,
I'm I'm I'm I'm been super deep into David's Mighty Men,
trying to figure out how to do a story with
that because it's a lot of just patchwork pieces. But
uh but yeah, yeah, that's that's that's why, man, because
of how much more there is to the story.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, when you when you started digging in here, man,
and you kind of have a little bit more of
a broader take than what you get in the scripture
in the story of David and Goliath. Talk about some
of that and some of the things you found that
you wanted to incorporate into this story and how this
is a little bit of a different telling than what
you're going to see in the normal story.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yep, I knew. I mean I read this. I read
it millions and millions and millions and times just to
get a rhythm, not not really learn the story, but
like get the rhythm in and really for God to
show me what I needed to focus on, because you know,
that's long story. It's Secon first, Samuel Sew and Samuel
all the way down into you know Kings. Yeah, it's

(24:53):
a really long story. And you know, my first book
I couldn't put out, you know, big thick knob, so
I knew I had to hit. I wanted to be
really punchy, really punk. You know, you've seen the colors
I've used to emphasize different points, but it needed to
tell the story of why, you know, I've been. That

(25:17):
was my challenge for thirteen fourteen years was, you know,
that's management is explaining the why. So I started with
the Amalekites. That is a super miscommunicated you know, God's
of evengeful God, why does he always killing people? Well?
Do we know who the Amalekites actually are? You know,

(25:39):
second page of five Stones. But I get right into it.
You see Mallekites. First time you see them chewing on
a human leg, and they got a body up on
the grill, and the next time they're going through the
marketplace killing people. It needed to be told exactly who
they are and why they needed to be killed. And also,
genealogy is is really really we'll go into that because

(26:03):
that's a super deep, uh direction, but genealogy is really
big in all of these stories too, so that I,
you know, I wanted to explain why all of them
had to be be ridded, the animals, everybody. Then you
get into right here behind me, this is one of

(26:23):
my favorite pages is when Samuel kills King a good
when I when I read that, all I saw was
blue and red. That's why this page is like that
all I saw, and I knew that needed to be
in the book too, So like I had to kind
of like I took liberties if you will. I didn't.
I didn't add anything. I didn't. What I did was

(26:46):
just kind of isolate certain topics of the story because
you know says in revelations don't you don't change nothing.
So I didn't change nothing. But I just really wanted
to emphasize King a God, why did he need to die? Well,
in five stones, I got him about eighteen foot, so
he's a giant. You know, he needed to go. And
the fact that God was so precise. I mean, if

(27:11):
you really go through the Bible, I it's like a father, right.
You know, I don't ask you for much, but when
I need you to do something, you gotta do it.
And you know, we got to respect that. And God
said that all of these because because the Malachites were
killing his people and we were not going to be
able to survive with that rampant you know, evil, so

(27:34):
it had to kind of be righted. So I needed
to emphasize that as well. And then you get down
to there's a couple of different really good arcs with
with Goliath. And so right off the bat, it's five stones.
That's miscommunicated because all we think about is Goliath with
the one stone. Why did he have five stones? He

(27:56):
did not get five because he was scared he gonna
miss that's not faith. He had five stones because there
were five giants there. And that's a huge part of
the story that no one ever, ever, ever, ever talks about,
you know, And it's like, you know, God wrote this
book and we're not even talking about it, right, Like

(28:17):
I would get irritated. I get irritated, you know what
I mean. But but uh so, you see, whenever you
see Goliath, they're in the background. They're not there in
our face, but they are in the background. There's always
five giants. So I'm I'm I'm really really you know,
trying to highlight that stuff. Now, first time you see Goliath,

(28:41):
he's in really makeshift leather, a little bit of metal.
Next time you see Goliath, he's head to toe suit
of armor. What that is to do with it? At
the same time, the Philistines are coming in, They're see people,
they're they're growing. I have a couple thoughts on that. Now,
I believe at that point, well less uh, I believe

(29:08):
at that point we weren't really scared of giants anymore.
There's lots and lots of evidence that people were working
with giants.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, right, lots and lots.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
So I wanted to highlight that. So the first time
you see him, he's just this you know, rugged giant
doing giant things. The next time you see him. But
because Philistines that was the end of the Bronze Age
going into the Iron Age, Philistines are known for being
like super good craftsmen, metal workers. So if I was

(29:41):
a Philistine and I was coming to conquer the land
and we pulled up and I saw a giant bunch
of giants, I'm teaming up and if and if we're
you know, me and my guys are really good with metal,
we're gonna wrap them up and they're gonna be in
the front and we're gonna conquer. Right, So I kind
of I wanted to show that without saying all that,

(30:03):
because it's I stick right right to the script, but
it's in. It's it's in the background showing like this
is this is how it was going. Also, you see
the pyramids had to touch based on pyramids. When you
see initially you see the giants they are teaming up

(30:26):
of the Philistines, bringing them in to teach them their
their knowledge. They're building the pyramids, and you see a
lot of electricity coming from the pyramids. I told the artist,
I was like, hey, we know what the pyramids were, Like,
we we know, so visualize it whatever you think it
would be, because you know, I'm I'm done, you know

(30:47):
is it? I'm done. I know we're being lied to
and I don't I don't have any patience for being
lied to. So I know what it was. So we
I wanted to show that too. And so when you're
going through this book, yeah, the story, but the hidden
messages I wanted to capture. You know, these are real people.
Yeah it's a biblical story, but they're real people. So

(31:09):
what did it look like? So yeah, yeah, that's I
really wanted to capture, capture how Goliath was being used. Also,
there's the speculation that he was king of Goth Goth,
I'm saying it wrong. I have a theory on that

(31:29):
in the Bible, being a king was big, big, big, big,
big thing, big thing. He would have acknowledged himself as
a king. I feel like he would have said, I'm
King of goth Get out of my face, YadA, YadA, YadA.
He didn't. He recognizes himself as a philistine. I take

(31:50):
that as he was just you know, bunker buster. Yeah,
And he knew his role. And they probably were like,
all right, you know, he probably was the bigger of
his brothers or whatever the case. You know, that's not
my place, but it was probably like, all right, brother,
you're up, call him out. Get this thing going.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, yeah, man. It's it's kind of interesting because when
you dig into the history of this, because again, you
need to understand more of the Old Testament to really
understand and get a good flavor of what's going on here.
And this is exactly what you just highlighted. I pulled
a map up and it was perfect. It was like
I just was doing a quick search and God provided
the perfect map for what we're talking about right here.

(32:31):
So I'm going to share this on the screen because
this is just this is too cool for school, and
I'm gonna explain some things and Melissa, I'm glad you're
learning some stuff. This is This is good stuff. So
what you're going to see right here you can see,
first of all, if you've watched House of David. One
of the things I'm going to bring us back up
here so we can see us there we go. And
one of the things that you're going to find in

(32:52):
House of David is they do a really good job
of explaining kind of what the political environment is and
what's going on here. One of the things people need
to understand is the land of the Like when you
hear the Philistines, this is referencing all the people that
lived in the land of Philista, and Philista if you
really look at where this is for the most part,
is a good portion of what we would refer to today.

(33:15):
And you can see right on the map there in
the bottom left gaza. Okay, this is where all of
the Philistines were. And the other thing too, is the
Amalekites go back historically all the way to when the
Exodus happens out of Egypt. The Amalekites were the first
ones to attack the Israelites unprovoked and just tried to

(33:38):
wipe them out because there's a long history of bad
blood between the two, okay, and one of the reasons
that the pathway out of Egypt, okay, was chosen. They
could have actually just gone northeast, right back into the
Promised Land, which is really all of this that you
see on the map here is really effectively for the
most part of the Promised Land. Okay, they could have

(34:00):
gone right out on up the coast. But the reason
they didn't do that is because God knew, and he
even says in Exodus, I know that if we go
that way, the people are not going to have the
stomach for what lies ahead, because they're going to be
riking marching right through enemy territory, right through Philista, because

(34:20):
all of the trade road ran right through here. So
that's how they wound up turning back down towards the
Red Sea and crossing over the Red Sea. And where
they cross that's a whole nother story, because they're effectively
right back in where Moses had spent his last forty
years before he came back to Egypt to take them
out of slavery. He'd actually spent it in that whole

(34:43):
land over there with his father in law, Jethro Midian,
the land of Midian, which is effectively in westernmost Saudi Arabia,
So that's how they wind up over there. But then
they get out and they get over in this particular area,
and the Amalekites are trying to kill them. So God
had decreed all the way back in Exodus to wipe
the amalek Hites out, you know, and everything they own.

(35:04):
So that's why you see a lot of what you
see there. But the cool thing about this map is
you can actually see the Valley of Elah, which is
where the first season of House of David if you
want to watch that, And this whole battle takes place,
and it's a huge valley, and you've got obviously Philistines
and this whole kingdom that had united to try to
take out the Israelites. And again the show does a

(35:25):
good job of explaining this, and you have Goliath, who
actually the way the show kind of gives it to
you is exactly what you just said, Adam, which is
he was a representative who had kind of been recruited
by the King of Gath. So you've got all these
different little kingdoms in here, right Ashdod, Ashkalan, Gaza, and

(35:47):
there's a lot of mention about how these particular kingdoms
are going to be facing ruination in the Bible, and
so there's a unification of these kingdoms that they're now
going against Israel, and obviously, coming out of Jerusalem from
the east to the west, they meet in this valley
that kind of separates the two, and that's where we
have forty days, which is an ironic choice of days, right,

(36:09):
God loves his math. Forty days. We have Goliath coming forward,
who is chosen as the champion for the Philistine army,
and then all of the Israelites are basically cowering in
place and don't want to have anything to do with
this because he's a giant man. He's the king dog,
you know, that's been sent forth as the champion. So

(36:31):
hopefully that map kind of highlights a little bit of
gives you a little bit of geography and ties what
Adam is saying with some of these Amalekites and the
whole story of Samuel and what we see in David,
the story of David and the story in five Stones
that he's talking about, because you do need to understand
this backstory, which Adam does a good job of graphically

(36:52):
explaining to you in as quick short order as he
can in this graphic novel to kind of tie everything together.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, like it's even to the point like I heard something,
I read something that it's speculated, uh, you know that
God made bores and that through a malachite genealogy splicing
and experimentation. Is is that's where the pig came from,

(37:21):
and that's why it was said to not eat poor.
And it's like, you know, well, you know, none of
us are going to know whether that's true or not.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
But I think I'm praying right now that that's not true.
Bacon is delicious, man, but it is. They were, but
they were, they were. You know, there's a lot of
you know, well, we can see the genetic experiment station
stuff goes back, you know, we can we can kind
of red between the lines and genesis if you if
you've if you've got eyes to see, you're going to

(37:53):
see there's a particular reason why God has destroyed. We're
planning on destroying everything. And he's telling Adam bring only
things like it's kind onto this boat. Don't be bringing
stuff on here. That's all you know, hybridized and you know,
messed up onto this boat. We're starting fresh genealogically.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, Like, I don't know if you've ever heard of atavism.
It's a word that I've been holding on to this
through all of this, and it's basically like benign genes
that under a specific stressor causes us to uh sometimes
revert back to like animalistic nature, grow tales, you know,
have different wild features. You could you could have schizophrenia

(38:40):
in your DNA and never have it. Or when they
like get in a bad car wreck or something really
bad happen and then boom, you know, you got skiz.
So you look at Lot and then the Moabites. I
think that's a great example there. So Lot was single
all the way up to Sodom. That's where he meets
his wife. And then you notice, because there's patterns to

(39:03):
the Bible, Lot's wife's never like named, and that is
always for a reason. It's never you know, they didn't
like forget to write somebody's name down in the Bible.
She's not listed. She looks back. We know this, we
all know the story. She looks back, she becomes a pillar.
Assault Why did she come back? Because that's her family,
that's where she came from. And then that's why when

(39:26):
his daughters had incest, I think Atavism, whatever was in
their genealogy, that incest kicked it. And then that's what
you know, we know the Ammonites, they're not giants, but
I feel like they're like they're not humans. And then
we know mobiites, you know, lying line. There's multiple examples

(39:46):
of lying men. So I think that, you know, get
into the genealogy. I think that's a big, very big
part of all of this, and it's a big explanation
of why things get so crazy. You know, look at
us Isaiah thirty four and they mentioned the sire. Why
is there a he goat in the Bible? You know
what I mean? Like I like that, so yeah, yeah, yeah,

(40:10):
I wanted to highlight that in the story and show
these not human beasts that are just running rampant killing humans.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah. My wife brought up a great boyt. She's she's
really good about finding crazy stuff that we're doing in
the world. That is just highlighting how close I really
feel like the genealogical things that we're monkeying with now,
the gene splicing, the the things that we're doing is
our tower of babble. You know, we're trying to play

(40:41):
god and there's and the technology is getting crazier and crazier,
and then we're able to do some of this stuff.
But I'm gonna throw her comment up on the screen
because she brought this, brought this to me earlier. They
are literally they have recreated dire wolves. There is a
yeah you saw it today too then, so there there's
a lab out there that has gotten this dire wolf DNA. Right,

(41:03):
these things are extinct, right, it's Jurassic Park. Do we
not listen to I and Malcolm? Just because we could
doesn't mean we should, you know. And we've brought these
things back and we're doing more of this genetic experimentation.
And these are the things that we know of that
were we know are happening. And we know for a fact, okay,
that our government has been experimenting with DNA for a

(41:26):
long time. They have been. Everybody knows that they you know,
have we have these stories of the Kndahar giant that
we shot. We went in, we picked it up on
a helicopter, very very credible. People have backed these stories up.
We went into the museum in Baghdad, we ran a
black op and we went over there to try to
find remnants of I think it was like Nimrod or Gilgamesh,

(41:51):
which is basically the same thing, to try to get
ahold of that DNA man. So DNA is a huge, huge,
huge thing. I'm going to go on one more quick, quick
little story here because I shared this this week, which
is which is cool. You talked about the Moabites, now
one of the things tying into your story. Just just
to share some information because this is really fun. And

(42:11):
this is one of those things where if you are
listening to this and you think that you're unredeemable, right
because you have all of these wicked things that your family,
you come from in your past, or that you've done
in your life, or whatever, you're not And I want
to highlight this the Moabites. When you get into genealogy,
much to Adam's point, and you have the Moabites and

(42:31):
the Ammonites, and those were the product of union that
occurred with Lot. Because when God decided to destroy Sodom
and Gomorrah, he didn't just destroy the towns of Sodom
and Gomorra, which were the two capital cities of the area,
really big areas. He destroyed all of the plane cities
as well, because they were all wicked. The only one

(42:54):
that was spared, and you can go read this in
your Bible, the only one that was spared was the
one that Lot ran to, all right, which was Zoar.
So they get to Zoar. He's got us two daughters. Obviously,
the mother turned around turned as salt, and they freak
out when they're in Zoar because they're basically thinking that
everyone's going to figure out that they came from Sodom Kamora.
They're the only ones that survive. They're gonna turn on us,

(43:16):
they're gonna kill us. So they ran off out of
town to the caves right there behind Zoar, and we
found the cave. We found it. We can literally go
to the cave today. We have discovered it. And inside
that cave, the two daughters, you know, get it in
their minds that they're never gonna marry, they're going to
never produce, you know, lineage, they're not going to continue
the line. So they decide to get their father drunk.

(43:39):
They get their father drunk and then they sleep with
him and they both get pregnant. And because of that
incestual union, that's how you wind up with one of
the sons named Moab, and the Moabites come from Moab,
and the other one was am On. And we still
know today Jordan, the land of Jordan, the country of Jordan.

(43:59):
The cap is still a Mon Jordan, and that is
really a breakdown from Ammon. That is, that's where that
land was. They're both lands east of the Jordan, east
of the Dead Sea on those planes over there. Now
here's the cool part. When we wind up going into Jericho,

(44:24):
we wind up with Rayhab. Okay, and all of this
ties back into Rayhab winds up. I'm trying to get
the story right. Rayhab winds up falling in love one
of the two Israel Israelites that she helped be spies
in the land, right, and they have a son named
bo As. Boaz then turns around and marries Ruth, who

(44:49):
is a Moabite. Right through that line is actually how
we wind up right here, sitting here today talking about
David and all of the things and eventually Christ. So
when you look in Christ's own lineage, you can see incest, murder.

(45:12):
Christ did not come from a clean bloodline. Rahab was
a prostitute. So we've got adultery, prostitution, incest, murder. The
list goes on and on and on. So if you
think you're unredeemable, all right, our very own savior came
from a background, not by happenstance, by the way, I'm
sure God chose probably one of the ugliest backgrounds as

(45:34):
possible to provide us the very savior that can wash
all of your sins away if you accept his sacrifice
and acknowledge that he actually lived and did that for you.
So I just I know that was a tangent there,
but I wanted to share that because it ties into
your story perfectly.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Well, no, I mean, that was a great point. I mean,
and there's so many more examples, Like I mentioned obed Edom.
Obed Edom was a get tight and a Jewish standard.
He's accepted as a Philistine, so he's not, you know,
but they left arc with them because he was trusted
and he was actually part of the genealogy of the

(46:12):
show Aram the Gatekeepers, which was you know, which was
so awesome. How like everybody in the temple has roles,
you know, Leevit's YadA, YadA, YadA. They had tracked genealogy
and even David and Samuel the Seer chose obed Edom
among a bunch of other different genealogies. They they handpicked

(46:33):
these guys to always be the gatekeepers, and they weren't.
They were by every normal standard, bad people. His name
is obed Edom, which is basically like slave to eat on,
slave to the red, slave to the blood. And he
was redeemed, I mean or no on remember when the
David's David messed up and did the census and then

(46:57):
guy's like, all right, you got to pick one of three.
It stopped at the threshing floor of Ornan. The Jebi
site jeby Giant was one of the tribes that was
kicked out from the Promised Land. So yeah, to your point, yeah, yeah,
anybody can be redeemed.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, man, it's it's just amazing how when you really
get in there and you look, and it's really important
to look at geography. I know that you know a
lot of times when we talk about all of these
different places in the Bible, it's a really important flip
to that section in your Bible if it has one
a lot of modern ones do where it shows the maps.
It is so important for everybody to understand the geography
and some of the history of what happened in these

(47:36):
particular areas, because one of the things shame to say,
I never this. This whole thing with our talk today
and with House of David and everything has really caused
me to go back to this story too and really
brush up, you know, and really look at the history,
look at what the Bible actually says. Because I'm watching
the show especially and I'm like, did that really happen?
And I flipped. I didn't realize that, you know, David

(47:59):
Act actually was from Bethlehem. You know, David was from Bethlehem.
Here we have Jesus from Bethlehem. It's not by happenstance.
You know, this is all factual stuff. We've got the
genealogical records to prove it. And it's just amazing, dude.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
So yeah, like, look at I was, and I was
gonna I thought it earlier. So Ruth is a moa
bidis And then you look at Absalom, David's son was
known for having this really really thick hair.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Come on. What I'm learning now in my journey is
the small details, as I mentioned earlier, are You're are
huge and you were supposed to catch them, right, because
there's always a pattern to a story. And then when
you see you see it just going and then it spikes. Yeah,
so it's like he didn't have just really curly hair

(48:51):
because he got caught in a tree. So so I
think that goes back to genealogy, you know what I mean,
that that was a trait that passed look at and
I love this example, the sons of Zarayah David's nephews.
You look at patterns in the Bible when they're when
people are listed the it's you know, father first, and

(49:13):
if he's dead or something happened to him, or if
there was a remarriage. It says it. It literally goes
right to Zariyah Joe ab Abi Abyashi in a shale
and then just keeps going, never mentions father, nothing, nothing,
and Zaria is the mother. Later in the story, Joe
abb one of the sons of Zarayah David's nephew, is

(49:37):
passed over to be headguard for a Maasa and it
says it because Amasa is the son of a man.
Some translations say he's the son of you know blah.
But Dad doesn't match the pattern of the Bible. Says, literally,
he's the son of a man. It's like, okay, now

(49:57):
you start researching those three guys. Now, remember when Joe
Abb killed Absalom with the crazy hair stuck in a tree?
Says that he got so mad he took three spears
in one hand and stabbed him. That's a big hand.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
That's a big dude.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Right, that's a tiny little detail. And you're like, oh, okay,
he grabbed three Go grab three spears and stab a
guy what probably eight ten feet up in the in
the in the air and actually get it enough in
there to get you know, a shale is like super speed.
He doesn't. He doesn't last very long. But he actually

(50:41):
they're in the story he's chasing you remember the part
where he's chasing the chariot and the guy's like, he
I turned right, he tried go a different direction. He's
like nope. So yeah, it's like it's right, it's right there.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
We glazed right up, we glazed right past it.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Yes, yes, yes, So David's mighty men. He has this
crazy army with his thirty seven man Well that's too
much to go into this one show, but there's two
guys that are a ho whites. A h O A
h you break that down. Ah means to how oh

(51:21):
ah is an unknown beast, meaning they didn't have a
name for it. Two of these guys are like howling beasts.
One of them is an a. Right from the lane
of well, I should all right, from the lane of
R and moeb there's another lion man and and then
there's a bunch of giants and you can go on

(51:41):
down the line. So yes, yes, there's a there's more
non humans in the Old Testament. I feel like than
than you know, regular just pure blood, pure blood humans.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this goes this goes all the
way back because the standing order still going into the
Promised Land. Are you know, I need you to wipe
this stuff out and clear it out because it's there's
a lot of history there that I won't go into.
I've kind of beat the drum a little bit on
and about you know, in the past. This goes literally

(52:17):
all the way back to like post flood and some
of the things we got into. And why the Promised
Land is called the Promised Land is because it was
promised to Seth, who was Abraham's descendant, and so God
is actually just giving back what belongs to them anyway,
but in the meantime it has been taken over by
these sin worshiping And when I say sin, I don't

(52:37):
mean sin in the traditional sense of what we're talking about,
but Sin is actually the god of I believe the moon.
And so we've gotten into all the celestial worship, and
there's a lot of other things demonology and a lot
of demon worship and all this wickedness that's happened, and
you've got all of this corruption that's taken place or
or somehow, and no one can really find what the

(53:00):
smoking gun is on how we've reproduced Nephelim after the flood.
Some people interpret Genesis six to mean that you know,
there was another angelic incursion of some kind, or some
other people think that you know Ham's mom because a
lot of them traced back to Ham. Ham's mother was
carrying some Nephlin blood. I struggle with that. I thought
that originally, it doesn't really make sense to me from

(53:22):
a genealogical perspective, and it also doesn't make sense to
me from a godly perspective that God would let something
impure on the boat. Now it could He's got he
can do whatever he wants. But it's just the the
if we're going to make sure that the animals are
pure and we're gonna wipe out all of humanity, I
just don't see why God would go, Yeah, but I'm
gonna let this one thing on the boat, you know
what I mean? It just seems to be a little off.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Well trot think about this. I racked my brain about
that because for me, I have to find all the pieces.
It's got to connect or it's just bs.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
And as from the working world too. You know, when
you're researching a problem, you know you're going to find
the details. I think try this on. The Bible is
very very specific, and we got to take it for
the word for the you know, for what it's saying.
It's very specific that Noah was a good man. Very

(54:17):
specific Noah was a good man. Noah I picked Noah. Well,
Noah had a family at that point. He wasn't a
single man. I believe, going by patterns, it would have
said the family. It would have it would have said
I chose a good family. It's specific said I chose

(54:38):
Noah because when they get off the boat, what happens
to him. Yes, it's a curse, but it's more than
a curse. I think we can all agree with that.
I believe genealogy that Noah was chosen because Noah will
be a strong man. It was unfortunate though that he
had kids that weren't good. It's yeah, that's the way

(55:03):
I look at it. So it wasn't, you know, because
because the incursion thing, here's how I look at it.
You got Genesis six at the beginning, and then you
got First Corinthians eleven ten at the end. So angels
never stopped coming down and they never stopped messing with humans.
I mean, look at us now. You can't tell me

(55:23):
that it ain't having it now. So I don't think
that it ever like it never stopped. So it's not
like there's an you know, these are all my theories.
It was never like multiple incursions. It just never stopped.
Because if you look at Ezekiel twenty eight, when the
King of Tire is is uh, you know, Ezekiel's coming

(55:44):
to talk to king King, the King of Tire, it
says that, you know, tell him you were a guarding
cherubim in my garden. Doesn't say that you you were
kind of like it or you know, I look at
you like it said you were you've lost your way.
I take that for its word, that that a Truman kid.

(56:09):
They were coming down. That's the thing about kings, and
we'll touch based on memrod and stuff, but like that's
what was happening. They were coming down like hey I'm
a god, Hey I'm a king, and they were just
starting lands. Now, it also says the prince is in
the wrong because he's been getting rich off of his
special knowledge. Where do you get that spersonal knowledge from

(56:31):
the king who used to be an angel? So again,
I don't think it ever really stopped, and I don't
think it has stopped. I think that like if the
King of Tire at that point was, you know, used
to be an angel and whatever, you who's to say
that's not you know, I mean, look at the presidents

(56:52):
and the kings that we've got now, come on, right.
So that's that's kind of my theory on that is,
is that it came and you know, because God will
use one person. You know, look at David and all
of the craziness that was around him, and then all
of the mighty men that were super bad. I mean,

(57:14):
look at the Cherathites and the Pelathites. They're known as
deadly mercenaries, but they were his bodyguard, his personal bodyguard.
They so they came to follow God, if you will.
But yeah, yeah, it was Yeah, Genie, Man, I think.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
It's crazy, and much to your point, man, it's it's
a valid argument because as you're sending the talking, that
got me kind kind of thinking about some other passages
and I was trying to find it so I could
say when we came back, and it's this verse in
Second Peter too, which talks about this this event in
Genesis six. Right, Ultimately, that's what that's what Peter is
referring to. And it says in Genesis or I'm sorry,

(57:52):
Second Peter two, verse four, and I'm reading from the
esp today, for if God did not spare the angels
when they sin, but cast them into Hell, which I
hate that word. Hate the word. If you have the
word hell in your Bible, it's horrid, all right. It's
not talking about the Hell that we get taught in church,
because that is not a great translation. But Tartarus, Okay,

(58:12):
cast them into Tartarus, which is a completely different place,
and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be
kept until judgment. And this we're talking about these angels
Genesis six again, if he did not spare the ancient world,
but preserved Noah a herald of righteousness with seven others
when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly.
But ultimately what we're talking about there, some of the

(58:34):
other translations talk about how they were basically made righteous
through him. They his family was made righteous through him.
We also have Paul talking about you know, if we
have a married believer mary is an unbeliever, or they convert,
basically one converts while they're married, then the other person

(58:54):
is sanctified through the believing spouse. Now that doesn't necessarily
mean that there's saved, but there's a there's an element
of purity or purification in there because of the exposure
to the person that is actually saved in the relationship.
So I'd have to find that passage somewhere in the

(59:16):
New Testament, obviously, but there are things in there that
very much to your point, and Jude might even allude
to something like that too, because it's first Peter, there's
a verse that's similar to what I just read. Second
Peter obviously what I'd just read, and then Jude obviously
says something very similar as well. And we're always talking
about the Genesis six event, and we know it's a
Genesis six event because of the language in here, and

(59:37):
it's always referencing sodomakamora, which is we know, a sexual sin,
you know, and debauchery and all that, and then it's
talking about the flood, you know, and that type of
thing too, So we know those are what those verses
are talking about.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
So go ahead, man, Oh, I was just gonna say,
like even when the two angels visited a lot and
how everybody was acting around that, Yeah, I've always had
a hard time with that because that I don't think
that that's face value, the way that they were like
demanding come out and have you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Know, have to these angels.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, I feel like there's way more to that. And
then if you look to the Moabites, like that's really
like like animalistic, you know what I mean, Like I
got a bunch of animals, We got ducks and rabbits
and and there are things that are just absolutely natural
and like that's that. Yeah, So I feel like that's

(01:00:31):
kind of like a hidden message of like, yeah, they
were already not human and and they're going to freak
out over two angels? What are they? Where's the line
right there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Is it going to be one man?

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
It's like it's it's gotten so bad. It's that's why
imagine how bad it had to be for God to
just be like, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead
and actually just uh yeah, I'm gonna rain down sulfur
on these people and just wipe out the whole plane,
because that's how wicked and debach they've become.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Dude, Like what we're talking about now, like all these
little details paint that picture. Yeah, it was nasty, it
was brutal, it was it was bad, bad times. And
God loves us. He don't want us to have to
deal with that. Yep, you know what I mean. I
think that's kind of the best way to look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yeah, and he doesn't want to have to do that.
You know, we have this miss misconception that the God
of the Old Testament is the God of wrath and
the God of the New Testament is the God of
peace and love. And that's that's a fallacy and thinking
because God never changes on the outphit in the Omega,
the beginning of the end. What people don't understand and
what they don't realize is when you look at the

(01:01:45):
Old Testament, you're literally covering thousands of years right of
God putting up with it and putting up with it
and putting up with it and putting up with it
and trying to bring the people back. And then He
brings the people back, you know, after punishing them, and
then they go right back to the same thing again,
and then we go through this cycle after cycle after cycle.
That's why when we snap to the New Testament and

(01:02:06):
we get Christ, this redemptive story. Right when you really
look at the New Testament, the New Testament is literally
literally like ninety years, not even it's it's actually like
sixty years because you know, we have the the you know,
Gospels that are Christ in his ministry time, which is
in his you know whatever thirties or however old we

(01:02:27):
think he was, and then the oldest that we have
in the New Testament is ninety years, you know, ninety eight.
I think they think that Revelation was written, right the
last book is the actual youngest book. So yeah, man,
there's there's a ton of stuff going on here. Sherry
had mentioned here in one of the comments she always
thought that there was a maybe the boat dealed to

(01:02:51):
with Ham then she's she actually said in here, I'll
throw this comment up here. She actually said, multiple incursions
makes more sense. But one doesn't have to have all
the answers. That's very true. We don't. Man, we're kind
of spitball. And the one thing, no matter who you
talk to, I believe me, I've talked to a lot
of people to try to find out how we wound
up with this craziness after the flood. We can kind

(01:03:11):
of just see things throughout the Bible, but we don't
have that smoking gun that says this is the moment
that it happened right here where we had nephulhom that
have appeared again. Uh so, yeah, it's it's just one
of those. But uh it's it's a fascinating talk, you know,
about all this stuff to try to understand, you know,
more and more about what happened in our past with

(01:03:34):
our ancestors, you know. And and again, the Bible wasn't
written for us. It was actually written for it's these
people and their story.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
So you gotta figure something fun to wrap your mind
around this. Genesis six was was I feel like written
like during wild Right, It wasn't just like oh this
happened and blah. It was like telling, yes, that's what
that's what's going on. Because think about the Siir and

(01:04:02):
Isaiah the he Goat, and then you've got pain and mythology.
Who's to say that while things were just going crazy
in Middle East, they weren't like, Yo, I'm getting out
of here. I'm gonna check out somewhere else. Yeah, and
then I mean, come on, like I even I remember
seeing a Christopher Klumbus movie when I was a kid

(01:04:24):
and two of the Spaniards killed each other. Well, one
of them got stabbed in front of the Indians, and
it was like, you idiot. Now they know we're not gods.
So you know, there's good people and there's bad people.
There's bad people now that still take advantage of the situations.
So who say that, Like even like Nimrod in the

(01:04:48):
Living Bible translation, it says he's the first of the kings,
and that speaks really, really loud to me because of
the Ezekiel twenty eight thing we talked about, and also
the fact that God was very specific. I'm your king.
You don't need a king if you get it. I'm
telling you, if you get a king, you're gonna get

(01:05:10):
ruled Like all the other nations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
They wouldn't listen, man, And where are we at now?

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
It's the same thing, you know? And and how is it.
I don't want to go on these crazy, you know,
rabbit holes, but how is it that all of our
presidents are related? I don't know if you've ever heard
of that thing. Come on, come on, you're telling me
that divination, possessions, seers, all that just stopped. We don't

(01:05:36):
know that no more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
We we It's sad because the church wants us to
think that. The the the I would say that the
overarching narration and the overarching narrative is that that is
just old Testament stuff that is no longer around anymore.
And it's that's impossible because it's like God never said
this stuff is going to stop. Hey, listen, we know
we've had multiple conversations with people on the show who

(01:06:00):
who have had direct contact with and seen devil worshippers
and witches and and these people who are full on
the levers of this stuff and can conjure things on
the fly. We've got people and and who are literally

(01:06:23):
opening portals and commuting with things in the other you know,
the other side of the the realm, if you will,
We've got it. We've got an entire site concern that's
literally literally these people make no bones about it. They're dedicated.
Their whole mission is to literally rip the veil and

(01:06:46):
have something be able to transport back and forth between
here and whatever lies on the other side. That's their
whole mission. They make no bones about it. And they're
they're and they're getting where they can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
So I got a few things on that first and foremost. Yeah, magic,
all that crazy stuff it is because it's it's it's
angelic powers based. Now it's being manipulated. But there's so
many examples in the Bible, so many where the angels
like don't know the next thing. So obviously their power
has been capped essentially, right, But you mentioned again we're

(01:07:22):
talking about Nimrod, and remember the clay tablet you mentioned.
So I don't know if you've ever gone down the
rabbit hole of Hillary Clinton and Gilgamesh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
No, but I can imagine it's probably a crazy one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
So I saw something about that, and I'm like, Okay,
there's no way it's real. So I just went on
to Google and I put in Hillary Clinton and Gilgamesh
and a Freedom of Information Act link came up, clicked
it found it, but it was for Nephlom. It wasn't
for Gilgamesh. I typed Gilgamesh. So I found it. And

(01:08:00):
there's been two requests from the Clinton Public Library. It's
twenty six pages. I haven't I saw about it, and
I stopped because, uh, you know, I don't want anybody
coming to my door. But it's two it's two requests
for information on the resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh and the

(01:08:28):
location of the buried nephylum. So I thought about that
and thought about that, thought about that, thought about that,
and you know, I'm I read every morning, just on
my normal and then you know, I researched through the day.
I have my research time. So I get I'm in
my normal and I'm going through Revelations. And you remember

(01:08:50):
in Revelations where it talks about the the nephilum that
are buried in the Euphrates and they come back out
the search. Yes, so exactly. So if you go through
different translations, the living Bible calls them the buried demons
in the sense of fallen angels, and then I forget

(01:09:12):
the other translation, but it it I can't remember it
based so I saw that one, right, So it's, you know,
the veried demons. So then you've got Hillary Clinton looking
or or whoever it is, looking for the resurrection chamber
of Gilgamesh in the buried Nephilim. And this is the

(01:09:34):
way I reason things out. Gilgamesh is not in the
Bible and Nephlim is not in the epic of Gilgamesh, right,
completely different, but they're on the same request. So can
you know how everybody's there's always been the speculation it
is Nimrod Gilgamesh blah blah blah. To me, that puts

(01:09:55):
it together, That signs it seals it. You know, this
horrible person is putting this crazy blank net to find that.
Why do you want to find that? You know, what
do you what are you trying to do to us?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
But the man, that's what they're after. They did, That's
why they took the can the heart Giant, that's why
they went into I want to say they did. It
was something to do with Gilga Mash that they took
out of the museum in Baghdad when we went in
there and we ran a black cop in there and
took that out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
The story on that is very important. We have the
touch base on it. After they after they invaded Baghdad.
Our government, you know, is as great and stand up
as they are. They figured out, oh, this clay tablet
is not ours, it's in a museum, so we're gonna
do the right thing. We're gonna go ahead and give it

(01:10:50):
back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Now that's Adam summarizing what happened, but that's what happened.
They basically were like, oh, well, we discovered that we
had it in the museum, shouldn't have it, so we're
giving it back to you. I've never been given anything
back from the government.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
No. They try to actively take as much as humanly
possible without giving us anything. Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
no there's not an altruistic boat in their body or
an honest one in their man. So they're there. It's
always it's always up to something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
And that's the craziest thing about all this, man, is
that you just do a little research and you'll find
out these things. But the other thing too, that it
has been more it's it's it's been so fascinating to me.
And I was going to share this earlier and I'm
kind of looping back to it now. But you know,
you can still go even to this day, you can
do this, and you can take a tour and do it.
There are people who will take you there and do
this with you. You can go to the planes over

(01:11:45):
where Sodom Gomora was. Then they know where they were.
They found them. They've got a very good idea where
all these plain cities were. They know where Zoar was.
They found a cave. And you can still to this
day pull out one of these sulfur balls that rained
down on this city. We literally pulled them out of
the ground and when you light it on fire, it

(01:12:06):
literally looks like nepalm. It just drips this fire. I
can't imagine being inundated with this stuff. You know, we
found Ninevah. We have found Ninevah, We found the capital,
We found the palace in Ninevah, and we have uncovered
as we've been excavating the palace, all of the reliefs
on the walls in the palace that Sanakaib who is

(01:12:29):
mentioned in the Bible who came in to the Northern
Kingdom and basically wrecked the Northern Kingdom because they had
become wicked and God was punishing them, all right, And
he literally talks about the entire conquest. So we have
Senakareb's account, the Assyrian account, and the Bible matching perfectly.

(01:12:50):
This stuff is real and its history, and we're finding
more of it every single day, and it's just fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
And I think that the reason, and it has a
little bit to do with the alien things and revelation.
I my theory the reason because it's it's to your point,
it's if you look at all the megalithic structures and everybody,
you know, how did they lift these big stones? And
I mean it right, it's it's giants. But that's part

(01:13:20):
of this false narrative because they can't, like you, acknowledge giants,
and then you get the Biblical and then you get
it all falls apart. Yes, So that's why I think
we're getting pumped with this alien stuff because you and
I do not to go too crazy into revelation, but

(01:13:40):
I have a small theory of a little bit of time.
I think we talked about it before a little bit
of I've I've had a minute to look into it,
we might already be in the second part of the
of revelations that for me would explain the UAP, because
they're gonna have to have a super solid explanation to

(01:14:04):
fool everybody. And you can't come out and be like, oh, well,
it was giants that made this, because you know, we
know where that's going to go. So we're getting led
to believe that it's aliens, alien technology, alien did this
and this and this, because that's going to be the
veil that they use, right, you now be prepared. They're

(01:14:26):
going to be tall in some fashion because even like
so Elijah, I mean, I'm sorry, John the Baptist and
Jesus are Angelic conception. Now obviously intent is different than Nephelin.
But if you if you look at I think two

(01:14:46):
of the two of the books in the New Testament,
they mentioned Jesus's stature. Yeah, Dan, he's not you know,
they don't he's super tall, but it's mentioned. And the
reason it's mentioned is if you go through all the
way through the Bible, like with Hebrew language is descriptive,
it's not, you know, so all of those details are key.

(01:15:10):
You know, if he's they I'm not six foot, you wouldn't.
You wouldn't. I'm right at six foot, you wouldn't. You
wouldn't say hey, and Adam's stature right, So it's it's
a very specific thing. Same with John the Baptist too.
And I'm gonna go down to a really crazy rabbit
hole that I noticed with my kids. I've got two

(01:15:32):
boys and two girls, my oldest of boys and the
youngest of girls. My father. I don't come from like
super tall people on my on on the mother's side,
it's tall. Grandfather's wife's tall. Both of my boys tower well,
my twenty two year old towers over me. My eleven

(01:15:53):
year old is like right here. So it comes my
theory comes through the the female. And that's you know,
I mean, because they're not coming, they're not taking half
to me, which is awesome. I want them to be huge.
But you see what I'm saying, like, like, I think
that that's going to be something to stand out. Some
form of statures is what's going to be used.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Yeah, man, that's sure. It's interesting to say that. It
made me think of wrong wired. Are you familiar with
wrong Wyatt at all. Yeah. So Ron Wyatt supposedly finds
the blood that was on thee. He finds the allegedly
finds the arc of the Covenant, you know, underneath where
Christ was crucified, you know, I don't know, we'll see,
but takes a blood sample, takes it to the lab
and they find out that all of the chromosomes and

(01:16:37):
autosomes are halved and there's only one from the father's side,
So all of Christ's traits supposedly came from the mother's side. So,
you know, it's just an interesting story. You can dive
into it, you figure out if you want to believe
Ron wyitet or not. But it's an interesting thing that
you said, because it made me think of that. So again,
it's one of those things where go study for yourself. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. I've just been trying to look
at it as like, how could it actually happen with humans?

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Yeah, I mean that's right. It's fascinating though, man, because
it talks about how well, especially you know some of
the We had a conversation a few weeks ago with
the gentleman named Randy Goodwin who works with SRA survivors
and to help kind of literally deprogram them, because there

(01:17:26):
is a tremendous amount of psychological fracturing, and that's not
even the right way to put it. A cloning almost
that occurs inside of a human beings mind, and they
literally lock your brain up like files. And he was
talking about how from what I recall, how important it is,
especially the males, to do this to them, right, And

(01:17:50):
and the other thing too is I think I don't
think it's a coincidence that we're under the males, us
men are under such attack by the enemy because if
we can if we can break men, we basically break
the fabric of the family unit and and everything, right,
we just corrupt everything. And Satan knows that. Man, the

(01:18:12):
enemy knows that. So yeah, it's pretty fascinating, So go ahead, man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Oh yeah, that's that's the whole agenda. That's another another
one we probably don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
So I've identified we've got about fifteen more shows that
we're gonna have to do, Adam. I mean, we're gonna
have to have you back for Lyeman and Moab, you know,
and obviously when you get Jonah done, we're gonna have
to get into that too, because that's that's another one
man where there's a lot more going on than what
meets the eye. There's a lot of stuff going on there,
and that actually can get into some of the things

(01:18:44):
with Shiol and how that works. Did did Jonah actually die?
Did he you know? Was he really in the belly
for three days? Was he alive? Did he die? There's
a lot of stuff there, So dude, let's go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Oh, I'll make it quick. One cool thing in Jonah
just to kind of no obviously, I'm using yes, So
we're gonna use Leviathan and not the whale, nothing like that.
A lot closer to the story. But the the the
one thing I want to say is is in the
story when the the gourd, a guy gives him the

(01:19:19):
gourd for shade and then and then the worm eats
the gourd. Benaya one of David's mighty men. It speculated
that he helped Solomon find the Shamir worm, which is
a stone cutting, stone eating worm. So we suggest that
that's the worm that eats that gord. So we're going

(01:19:40):
for like all the super crazy supernatural stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
I like it, all right, we can't wait, man, Nah, dude,
We're definitely gonna have to have you back dive into
more more of this story because there's a lot more too,
and we've I know, we bounced around a lot Todavi,
but man, it's all one thread. It's all tied together.
And the thing is, go read your Bibles. You know,
once you get these new lenses napped on and you
start to see things beyond just what's on the surface,

(01:20:05):
pay attention to what you read because if you see
weird stuff and if it doesn't make sense, it's important.
Now one of the things that you brought up earlier,
just for fundies on that point, because this is a
great example of what I'm talking about. You had mentioned
this and which is in one Corinthians eleven, and this
is a weird statement that just comes like out of
left field, and you're like, what in the world is

(01:20:26):
he talking about? But when you understand Genesis six, you
understand what Paul's talking about here. And I'm actually going
to start in verse seven. So this is First Corinthians eleven,
verse seven. Again, this is the ESV. I don't particularly
like the esv's translation of this, but that's okay. It'll
get the point. We'll clarify for a man ought not
to cover his head since he is the image and

(01:20:47):
glory of God. So they're back to our point again
if we attack men, right, but woman is the glory
of man, for man was not made from woman, but
woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but
woman for man. That is why a wife ought to
have a symbol of authority on her head, because of
the angels. And you read that, and I'm just going

(01:21:12):
to keep going. Nevertheless, in the Lord, woman is not
independent of man, nor man of woman, for as woman
was made for man, so man is now born from
a woman, and all things are from God. But you
read this and it talks about how a woman ought
to have her head covered to basically not entice the angels,

(01:21:34):
and you're like, what in the world, because you're reading
this and you're just like, Paul just kind of tosses
this weird thing in there. And if you have no
understanding of Genesis six, then you do not understand that verse.
And we just skim the right past it. And that's
one of those moments where we need to pause and
go if you don't understand that there is a huge, huge,

(01:21:57):
huge thing that you're missing that literally carries throughout the
entire Bible. So hey, the ultimate question has been asked,
my friend, and this is where we're gonna. We're gonna.
This is a great stopping point for us for today.
Melissa asked the key question, where does she find five Stones?
My friends?

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Five Stones dot big Cartel dot com is the commerce
page for the book. I have a substack where I
get into like really crazy quick reads of of uh.
There you go of uh. Just just like you said,
I find something that seems weird, take a couple of
days and research it, and then I put it out there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Can they get to your book through that too? Through
the substack?

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Yes, there's a pin link at the top of the page.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Awesome. So and again, just for everybody that's listening and
not watching, it's e Adam Ferriss so E A D
A M F A R R I S dot substack
dot com. So if you're listening to that and you
didn't write it down, go back, listen and pause and
write it down with a pen and paper and then
you can go there. But no, man, dude, is great

(01:23:06):
having you on brother. Look forward to having you back
for more discussions. I always love having to talk with you.
We have great talks.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Oh man, we got so much to cover, man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Fun it is, man, it's a huge book of mystery
that you know, we can never get to the bottom
up because it's so a little layered and multi layered
and deep, and it's just fascinating. And it's funny go
on these journeys together as brothers because Iron Sharpen's Iron man,
you know. And then then people contribute on the show
and the iron sharpens Iron even more so. Adam, thanks so much, man,

(01:23:37):
it was great to have you on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
I appreciate it. It was fun, man, I ensure it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
That's awesome. All right. Well, with that we will bid
you ado until next time on the foiler. Take carefu

(01:24:02):
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