KCAA: The Worker Power Hour (Tue, 29 Apr, 2025)

KCAA: The Worker Power Hour on Tue, 29 Apr, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seen thirty two dot org.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to the Worker Power Hour with Randy Corrigan, a
brand new show about labor and worker issues. The host
of the show is Randy Corrigan, Secretary Treasurer and Principal
Office and leader of Teamsters nineteen thirty two, one of
the largest public sector labor unions on the West Coast,
representing workers in government and non sworn law enforcement personnel.

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Randy Corgan is a thirty year Teamster who first became
involved in the labor movement by volunteering his time as
an organizer with the Teamsters Union at the age of
twenty one. Since then, he's helped thousands organize, mobilize, and
achieve bargaining rights. He accomplished this by spending countless hours
with brave men and women all over southern California in
their living rooms on the picket line to bring workers

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towards victory. This is the Worker Power Hour, and now
here's the host of the show, Randy Corrigan.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Good afternoon, everybody, longtime organizer stime radio host Randy Corgan
with the Worker Power Our casey AA one oh six
point five FM ten fifty am. Good to be back
this week. It's actually I think my fourth week in
a row not having to do a rerun. Last week
was a good show. We had Don Rao on and
then we also had the Samarandino Orchestra, a Symphony Symphony

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Orchestra on. I was interesting, real fun connection between those
two organ First of all, between the supervisor Don Rawe
and being at one of the events from last year.
And you know that that the Samardino Symphony Orchestra seems
like a really good family event for a reasonable price,

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and probably'd be great to have them on again in
the future. But Don Don did a great job. Frank
you and I know that that's your current supervisor right now.
You you were actually you live up in the mountain
where there was a lot of criticism over how the
last year stormers hand handled and you know what were
your what were your thoughts on how she handled the

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discussion last week?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, so people in the mountains felt a little bit
forgotten last year when we had the we call it Snowmageddon.
But I thought she did a good job addressing the
issue in that she didn't say it was handled perfectly.
She explained kind of how she had just come into
the that part of the district they had, I just
rearranged and bound something. But the whole switching from a

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normal snowplow operation to a scoop and dump where you
actually can't use a plow anymore if there's just not
enough room for the snow. That made it really difficult.
But she she had she explained herself well on what
why they had to prioritize certain things like you know,
roads to utility centers where you know, number one, So
a lot of streets got put you know, in the.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Secondary, the secondary.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
But there was a reason for that. So I thought
she had a good job explaining, you know, how you know,
her thought process and how she how she wanted her
how to deal with strategic It wasn't it wasn't just
a wild cluster. It just it was strategic.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, And I thought I felt that she did a
good job of kind of owning, you know, the situation.
It's like, look, we didn't do things perfectly, and you know,
clearly it was an incredibly difficult situation. So because people people.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Are reasonable, you know, like, you know, we should be reasonable.
We haven't had a blizzard like that since I've been alive.
I've lived there, my whole life. You know, I'm twenty
seven and we've never had even half that much snow before.
So it's understandable that there were some issues, you know what,
I like, some issues with something that we've never experienced.
For it was basically it was almost, you know, a
natural disaster. I don't think I officially have declared that,

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but you know the.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Did oh did it? It did? State State of California did.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
So you know she didn't blame anybody exactly. You know
that that really stuck out. She just said, look, this
is what our responsibility was, this is what we did. Uh,
this is what we're doing going forward. And I just
you know, anytime you deal with the situation that's rare
and doesn't come up very often, it is so easy
for everybody to criticize you, and.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
It'll be a learning experience or even you know, the
most established supervisor. You know, when it's something new, you're
gonna learn stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
And that's correct. Yeah, and you know, ironically, you know,
she comes from the desert area, actually from the Yucca Valley,
you know, twenty nine Palms area, and so you know,
dealing with mountain issues is you know, probably something she
hasn't dealt with much her her life. Obviously that's not
an excuse, and you know, she didn't, she didn't say
any of that.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
She didn't make excuses, which I appreciate it. She explained
without like making excuses that that I appreciated a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
And that's what's made her a good Uh, it's been.
She's been a good partner for us. And again, you know,
as we pointed out, there's a lot of things we
disagree on, but she's always open to discussion and trying
to find resolution on behalf of our members, and that
is that is very important when you're dealing with, at
least for us, you know, twelve one thousand employees members

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and from her perspective, you know twenty some thousand as
employees of the county. So yeah, great job. I think
she did good. It was a good combination. It was
a nice combination between her and obviously going to one
of the concerts that happened last year for the sam
Borandino Symphony Orchestra organization. And yeah, I thought it was

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a really good show. Moving on to the next part
of our show, three Teamster jobs. This is the part
where we like to think of teamster I always want
to thank Cardlos Gonzalez. He does a really good job
of pointing these out for me and giving me some
detail to it too that sometimes I might overlook. So AARMC,

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which is Arrowhead Regional Medical Center in Colton, most people
don't know that almost all the jobs there are Teamster jobs,
and so most of the staff at AARMC are Teamster's
Local nineteen thirty two members. The person taking your blood,
the person making sure you could breathe there in COVID,
all the respiratory therapists are all teamsters. So think about that,
like you know, the most important individuals, Like everybody's important

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in that field. But it was a respiratory you know, illness,
and those are all teamsters that we're that we're trying to,
you know, keep everybody alive during that process. The person
chicking in checking your baby's ultrasound, all the people in
that department, and you know our members, you know, care
for the community and the health and in sickness, and

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you know they're always, you know, trying to just try
to remember to think of teamster and appreciate it, especially
if you in healthcare, like that's a time in year
and your most need teamsters are taking care of you
there at Arrowhead Regional Medical Center. So think of Teamster
and all of you that are listening at Arrowhead Regional
thank you for the work that you do. The next
one is railroad workers. Most railroad workers are teamsters. As

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a matter of fact, we represent over seventy thousand railroad
railroad workers. That's a little tongue twister rail road workers
in the in the US. And and you know, think
about all the goods and services or excuse me, all
the goods that are going through the country on a train.
And when next time you look up at a train,
those that deal with the maintenance in ways, the conductors,

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the locomotive engineers, most of them are teamsters. So teamsters
are making sure those goods are getting to another part
of the country. A lot of it comes into the
port goes to other parts of the country. And so
I'll think of teamster. Last one again, you might overlook
this one too. It's a great one. The American Red Cross.

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Most people that work for the American Red Cross are teamsters.
The phlebottomists those that take your blood that you are
obviously going to donate it for later, the drivers or
teamsters obviously that drive the vans around and drive the
trucks around, and the clinics, the mobile clinics, and a
lot of the individuals that work for the American Red

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Cross on disaster relief for teamsters as well. So as
we always every show, think a teamster. Next time you
see the Red Cross, they're probably teamsters, and think them.
Make sure that they understand you appreciate them. So I'm
gonna switch over to current news. There's some really interesting
stuff going on in our current news right now. First,

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Starbucks actually has come to their census and them and
the baristas union Workers United, have announced an agreement to
begin discussions for collective barry agreements for unionized stores. They're
going to actually try to put together what we call
like a national contract. They're going to try to put
together something that is uniform for a number of the locations.

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And so workers at hundreds of locations across the country
at Starbucks have been organizing. And more power to them.
I mean, a coffee is what you know, six seven bucks.
They can afford to pay them a little more. I
mean you think about it, you go to in and out,
and I know a lot of people that work for
in and out, and I mean they pay their people
starting out like twenty twenty one bucks an hour, right,

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you know, Starbucks can do better. In and out can
do it. Starbucks can do it. I mean coffee at
the price that they charge, there's a pretty profit in that.
And quite frankly, I need to be sharing it more
with the workforce and so you know, the broader context
of you know, increasing the you know, union mobilization for this,
for the Starbucks workers is is really really important. It's

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obviously a brand that everybody's listening to and paying attention
to and kind of following when it comes to workers
in America. So congratulations to those workers. They still got
some work to do because they got a bargain a
contract across all of those locations, and that'll take some time.
We'll be paying attention to it. Will give you an
update as soon as we can. The next one is

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kind of a fun one I want to talk about.
I'm gonna have a little bit of fun with this
one because the majority of Alabama Mercedes workers want to
join UAW the Southeast and that battle's heating up. So
the reason why I'm pointing this one out is there's
some interesting comments that are made about this. So a
majority of the workers have said that they want to

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be organized, they want to be have a collective barring agreement,
and they want to benefit like the rest of union
workers do across the country. And of course, you know
the company is going to say, no, you don't need
to do that. I'll give you a couple of quotes
from them. The thing that stuck out to me the
most in this is part of this article refers to

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how the governor the governor who is is is k Ivy.
Governor k Ivy and states the Alabama model for economic
success is under attack because these workers are organizing. I

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don't know, I'm a little taken back by that. That's
pretty bad when they're ovenor or your elected officials are
claiming that workers organizing because they're not being treated correctly
by the employer is an attack on an economic model. Well,

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interestingly enough, I'm going to talk about right to work
on the back half of this show, and Alabama is
a right to work state, and so yes, there's a
business model that supports right to work. And it's one
of those oxymoron quotes that means the opposite of actually
what it's branded. And so for the governor to say,

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you know the Alabama model for economic success, well, I
don't know. If you know a lot of people that
live in Alabama. I do, And the wages in Alabama
are not very good, the working conditions are not very good,
and economic success in Alabama only seems to work if
you've got a ton of money. Everybody else, the average

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worker in Alabama seems to struggle immensely. And one of
those reasons is because of right to work and the
right to work legislation that was passed there in the
nineteen fifties. I'll get into that on the back out
of the show. But for elected officials, senators and governors
to come out and say, hey, workers, this is this
First of all, it's between the workers and their company,

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their employer. What are you piping your head into this for?
And the reason why is because they want workers to
be suppressed. Any elected official who jumps into a conversation
like that is literally asking for workers to be oppressed. Well,
I guess that makes sense out of the South because
of the history of the South. You know, this guy
probably still has a Confederate flag somewhere buried in his

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trunk and recognizing what that means. You know, for those
of you that want to argue that, I would love
to have you on my show and have a discussion
about that. Anyway, the point is is that a governor
or elected officials in the business community to come out
and say that this is a sort of an attack. No,
this is workers saying, hey, we have a right under
the law to organize, and how dare you call it

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an attack if they're just exercising their rights. Quite frankly,
a governor like that should be recalled or not elected
when they're stomping on someone's actual rights and thinking it's
okay to do that just because it's a union, and
unions have been punching bags in these situations over the years,
and I just think it's crazy. The Mercedes Benz spokesman said,

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you know that they believe that they have open and
direct communication with our team members and it's the best
best path forward to ensure continued success. Ironically, almost all
of Mercedes Benz in Europe is organized under collective burning agreement,
almost the entire top, top to bottom. Everybody in Mercedes

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because it's a German based company. We talked about this
very lightly on another show. After World War Two, when
Germany was rebuilt and a lot of Europe was rebuilt,
it was re built with some policy around making sure
unions had a strong foothold to protect the workers as
they were rebuilt in the country. Those policies obviously impacted

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companies like Mercedes that were based in Germany, and it's
just ironic to hear them say, well, now we go
to America. Now that we go across the Atlantic Pond
there the Atlantic Ocean, jump over to America. Now it's oh, well,
guess what, we don't think you need a union here yet.

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Their entire workforce in Germany, which is where they anchored down,
which is where they got their initial success, which is
where a lot of their technology is. And for anybody
that doesn't know, Mercedes holds more patents when it comes
to vehicles than any other company on the face of
the planet because of their unionized workforce being that good,

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their engineers and everybody being that efficient and that good
over the life you know what, seventy eighty years. So
shame on Mercedes Benz, and shame on that governor, and
shame on anybody who kind of gets into this space
will be pulling for these workers, and I'll give you
a report as that ramps up. That's going to continue
to ramp up here here real soon. The last bit

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of news I want to report on is teamsters in Iowa,
the union truckers circle the Iowa Capital and protest of
a propos of more proposed labor legislation. Iowa already has
some of the most restrictive union labor laws in the country.

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The hoops you have to jump through in Iowa based
on right to work. Again, this is going to tie
into the back half of the show talking about right
to work and how right to work is this oxymoron
sort of phrase. But Iowa has has some of the
most restrictive laws when it comes to how representation number

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one is gained, how it's made contained, and they're trying
to take it a step further and grind down on
it even more local two thirty eight. Jesse Case happens
to be a friend of mine. He's a great guy,
very hard working. A group of workers in Iowa simply
because of the legislative effects that have happened in the

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last few years. Specifically, in twenty seventeen, a law was
passed in Iowa. That really forced a yearly process for
representation which is extremely cumbersome, and it's really set out
to try to break up unions and their ability to
represent the workforce in greater Iowa. But so the new law,

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which is I think it's twenty three seventy four a
Senate file twenty three seventy four, it's a proposal. It's
really a union busting proposal, and it's going to create
an undermining effect on public workers collective bargining rights by
allowing employers to desertify us, by allowing employers to decertify

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the union, by allowing an employer to make that decision.
So not only is that against federal law already, so
probably going to be preempted. It's not an employer's decision
whether or not they want to be union. It's the
worker's decision. It's already been it's already been established since
nineteen thirty four. That employer doesn't have a right to
have you know, they don't have a right to have

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space in that decision. It's between the workers and the employer.
The employer can't say, well you should, you know, we're
going to say no, and we don't care what you do.
It's not your decision. It is a worker's right and
just ironic. So shout out to Jesse. He's got a
great team there. Really really a difficult set of circumstances there,
but it's great to see them all rally around and

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really put a lot of pressure on the capitol there
in Iowa. Whatever we can do to help them out,
We're definitely going to be doing the same. As a
matter of fact, one of these times, I'm going to
get Jesse to come out here to California and talk
to our members because the laws are so difficult in Iowa.
Sometimes you want those that have to deal with a
more difficult set of circumstances to come talk to those

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of us that have an easier set of circumstance, because
sometimes we take what we have for granted, and I
think it's important for us to pay attention to how
tough it is for others because guess what, ALEC and
the right to work sort of proponents want that to
spread out across the entire country. Again, I'm going to
talk about it on the back side of the hour,
and so with that, I'm going to switch to the

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next part of our show. Or let me remind you
of the work of power. Our CASEAA one oh six
point five FM ten fifty AM call in number is
eight eight eight nine O nine ten fifty. I have
a lot of people that break my chops over and
not doing the call in number. They got to look
it up if they want to call. I don't hear
y'all calling right yet. So once you start calling in
and flooding the lines, you know, maybe I'll do it more. Anyway.

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Short of that, we have a Teamster Advantage partner on it.
I love the fact that we have in our studio
here almost every single show we have a live person
to talk about their business and one of our Teams
to Advantage partners. This is Anthony with Cornerstone Barbecue and
let him talk here in a minute. But just a
quick shout out for our program. We have more than

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a thousand small business connected to the team Stir Advantage network.
I actually have James Estrada sitting in here today. He
is one of our shop stewards. He was on our
show a couple months ago for He's our shop steward
from Redlands. He does a great job of promoting small
business within the city of Redlands, and I'm always telling
these guys just to throw these teams to advantaged partners

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at us. We'll line them up, make sure that they
get on the shows. We want them to talk about
their small business. We want to particular partake in those
restaurants and businesses and establishments as much as we can,
and we want to remind people to connect to him
as well. With that, Anthony, tell us about your barbecue,
because I think everybody loves barbecue, right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Everybody does love barbecue. So again, my name is Anthony.
I'm the owner of Cornerstone Barbecue.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
We actually have two locations.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
I have one in Beaumont, California, and then that was
established four years ago and I just recently opened one
in downtown Redlands here three months and a half ago.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
So it's been going really well.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
You're bringing some barbecue in here live? Yes, oh my
barbicue live.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
So definitely couldn't go anywhere or have an interview without barbecue, because.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
How are you not four hundred and fifty pounds.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
I work a lot, ok, yeah, I got it, put
in a lot of hours, but we enjoy building community,
you know, I know that for us, it's more than
just food. It's about building relationships and are networking with
different individuals in the community, because when you shop small,
you build community.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
So tell us about some of your menu, like what
are the uh Okay, first of all, you got a
location in Boma. Where's the other one?

Speaker 5 (21:01):
The other one is in downtown Redlands.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Downtown Redlands. Okay, we're in downtown Redlands.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
So we're on twenty two East Bayne Street, California, nine
two three seven three.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
What's your favorite dish? Yours?

Speaker 6 (21:14):
My favorite dish, which is kind of depends. Definitely brisket
is king. I love brisket. But the French fries we do,
we call them meat fres there just loaded French fries.
It's just fries, meatnach to, cheese, sor cream. Definitely might
go to eating or our breakfast burritos.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
We got a lot of Okay, this.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Is a nice little twist barbecue place. It's got a
breakfast burrito.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah. So it started in Beaumont.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
We we have a lot of blue collar workers that
we're there and they're just always passing through Beaumont going
to work.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So we're in Beaumont's the location.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Location in Beaumont is two seven to one East sixth Street,
right off of sixth Street. When the sixty ends and
you're you gott to just get a quick bite, stop
in and.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
On your way.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
We do breakfast burritos there. We'd start them from seven
am to about ten thirty. Downtown Reunlands is a bigger location,
so we do breakfast all day. But the pork belly
breakfast burrito is phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
It's nice. We have cheese, not French fries.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Pork belly bell pepper is so good.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I want to order one right now.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yeah. Typically the guys will you have on the road
and then they'll eat the lunch.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
That's the way to do it.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Okay, So tell us about the rest of your menu.
Obviously a typical barbecue as you got something special. How's
your mac and cheese? Do you have mac and cheese?

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Yes, we have mac and cheese.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
We do.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
We do five different It's a five blend cheese that
we use. Everything is made from scratch, everything is made
in house. Our rubs are barbecue houses. We got the
guys doing everything from start to finish.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Okay, So tell me about the mac and cheese. Mac
and cheese, throw anything in it, like bacon, or you know,
you could do it.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
I mean, you could build the mac and cheese bowl,
which is basically mac and cheese.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
And you could put any of the meats on there.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
That's like a secret menu and not a lot of
people know about that, but that's like what the guys
typically eat.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, that's a mac and cheese can be a meal, right,
especially if it's a like you said, a five cheese
mac and cheese. It's really good doing. Dice up a
little bit of onions, maybe some mushrooms, throw it on there,
and a little bit of meat. Man, that's a that's
a hefty meal.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
So we we have a bunch of different smoke meats
we do, like briscape, tried to ribs, pulled pork, chicken,
the pork belly itself.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
It's a different type of smoke meat.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
We actually slowly cook it and then after that we
defrit it so it's very crispy on Now.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
So you make it more healthy.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Yeah, yeah, when you're going to a barbecue shop, you know,
definitely everything is is healthy for us. But we it's
really good as nice and tender, very juicy, really good pork.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
But it's one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
So so do you have coast law, Yes, we do,
all right, tell me about the coastline. Love coast again.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Everything is made in house. We it's a little sweet,
not too great.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I love that. It's it's sweet with a vinegar.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
It's just a nice blend, you know, because sometimes some
coast sauce are like super soggy, where it's just like
it is all all the dressing nice and crisp.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Is really good.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
You can tell you like coastline, right, you have to
like for us.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Like Kolsauf for me is like that's the way that
I can eat more because I'll be the beef is
so rich. After that you get a little bit of
bite of the coast boom back into the meat.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, especially taking a bit of coastline slapping it right
on top of a sandwich or something like that. So
you have a beef brisket sandwich or pork or whatever
we do. We do like a big old clump of
that that coastline slaper. Oh man, it's just yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
It's really good. Like that's uh.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
We do barbecue sandwiches, so like a brisky sandwich with
some slaw really hits the spot.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
All right, So tell us a good story. Uh, is
there is there some in the bag. I'll be honest
with you, Like, if I start eating it right now,
I'm gonna be distracted the show. I don't know what
to do. I got it sitting in front of you.
I haven't eaten yet today, and I'm like, I want
to tear into this, So tell me. Tell me a
good story about you know, running running. First of all,

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running restaurant's tough, right, It's extremely difficult. Now you got
two and you.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Know, definitely it's one of the hardest things I've ever done.
You know, I've worked a lot of different things, a
lot of different trades, and running a restaurant is one
of the hardest things.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Now you look like an iron worker man, you got
you got your suspenders on, and.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
We do it all.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
We I mean, when you're a business owner, you got
to be a plumber, you gotta be letrician, you gotta
be a welder, you got to do every Yeah, you
gotta have wear every different hat. And for the most part,
you have to be a good leader. You know, the
success that we've had is because of our team.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
Uh, the team.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
If if I didn't have my team behind me, I
couldn't be sitting here talking to you. They're the ones
that are actually doing the work, you know, they're they're
you know, day in, day out, and they do it
for us. You know. Like when we first started, it
was just me and my wife. So you know, we
I did late night hours. I was doing like twenty
hour days, you know, and we we when we started,

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it was just again it's a small business, so we
had nobody funding us.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
It was just me and my wife.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
We put our dream out there and we put everything.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
We quit our jobs and we said this is what
we're doing, you know, and then and it was so
hard to get open. So like once, you know, before
even opening day, we had like no money. We had
like zero. I'm like, well, we have enough to buy product,
and let's see what happened. So we started and you know,
and we just started stacking days after days after days,
and you know, meeting awesome people.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
You know, our customers, I.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Believe are my best, you know, the best asset that
we have as a business as well. You know, like
without our customers, without you know, people supporting small, we
wouldn't be here.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
So how did you get connected to the team stra
advantage network.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
So we James, yeah, James, James, Yeah, James came in.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
James came in.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
And it's such a blessing, you know because to have
them come in and be like, hey, you know what,
we got a group of guys that love to eat.
We got people that are here to support you because
you know, again, we've been in Beaumont for four years
and like until we got to downtown Relants is when
I made James, you know, so we've to come.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
In and you were in Beaumont before.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
See yeah, slack.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Late to the game. Man, this guy could have been
connected a way earlier. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (27:29):
You know, it's it's it's so tough, you know because again,
like when as a small business, you don't.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Know how much marketing you need to do. You don't
know how how much work is.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
How much do we charge you for marketing?

Speaker 5 (27:40):
It's completely free. Which is.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
It's crazy to me to think that anybody wouldn't want
to take the opportunity to come out here, want to
be a part of the team's advantage because again for me, yeah,
do we offer a benefit to the team sers definitely,
But it's a benefit for them to come and try
our food, you know.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
So it's so win when.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
That's where anytime in business, I'm always looking for how
do we do a win win? And to me, it's
amazing that you guys have have a show or a
space for people to come out and just shout out
their business.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't see why you don't gotta like you can
give you twenty bucks from the shows over I.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
Mean barbecuefa.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
Definitely couldn't come at the handy because again, you guys
are providing a lot for us.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
So what's the discount for teams to members?

Speaker 6 (28:27):
So right now we have both stores, you could get
a discount which is ten percent discount. And again that's
available for any type of meals, any catering, anything that.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
You guys don't do anything at our office yet at
our building, well we gotta we gotta do you do catering, right, yes,
we do catering.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
But I want to give you.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
In December, put a big they put a big spread out. Yeah, session,
you got it, got it. We got a limit on
how much it talk because you're so far away from
a mic. Just so that's all right, James, that's all right.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, So we do we did set off.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
We have a reserve section just in case bigger parties
want to come in or good I want to again,
I know that sometimes in downtown Redlands, seating is you know,
is prime real estate, you know, So I know I've
heard a couple of restaurants will waited like our way
times and whatnot. So again, we're fairly new, so are
you know. We got a lot of people with a
lot of space, and we're excited to.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Have all right, it's great to have you on here.
I'd love to sit and chat somewhere. I got to
get to a break, but Anthony, great job, got a
lot of energy. It can't wait to crack this open
and and and maybe take take a little taste of it.
And then we'll also, you know, actually have them cater
a couple of things at the building for some of
our events and we'll get a pretty good idea on

(29:50):
how it is on a larger scale too, not just
in the restaurant. With that, it's the worker power our
case AA one O six point five FM ten fifty am.
We'll see you on the other side of the break.
Thanks for being here, Anthony.

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Speaker 3 (31:43):
Wow, we're back. It's the Worker Power Hour with Randy Cordan.
CASEYAA one o six point five FM, ten fifty am.
All right, So, so I got James Estrada sitting next
to me. He's a shop steward with the City of Redlands.

(32:06):
You you work on the on the outgoing water side, correct,
I call that the septic side.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
Right, Well, yes, that's that's a good way to put it.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
So we it's wastewater, right, it's wastewater suer water. So
we deal with everything that's being discharged, whether you know
it's it's a business or or a you know, a residence.
So yeah, and in Redlands, I think we have almost
a little over six million gallons a day, five six
million gallons a day to go through the wastewater system.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Wow. Yeah, all right, So I'm I'm flying by the
seat of my pants. I figured i'd have James sit in.
I'm going to talk about right to work, and actually, Frank,
I want you to listen in on this, because what
I want to do is I want to spend this
last twenty minutes talking about, you know, the term right
to work, give a little bit of history on it.

(32:54):
I could probably do an hour and a half on this,
but I'm going to really going to try to dedicate
a good twenty minute. And if you guys got some
questions as I'm drilling down on kind of explaining some
of this pretty crazy history to right to work, I
think it would help kind of help the explanation for listeners.
So where it's not just me rambling on for twenty minutes,

(33:16):
it's more there's a little bit more dialogue is happening,
and so let me just kind of give some of
the basic information first. So the term right to work
is clearly an oxy moron, kind of like civil war, right, Like,
what is civil about war? I get that civil war
is an internal war where there's a fight over who's
in control, but there's nothing civil about war. War is war,

(33:39):
and that's the phrase civil war is an oxy moroon.
In itself, as there are lots of phrases and so
is the term right to work. Right to work originated
in nineteen forty one. A guy by the name of
William Ruggles was propped up by industrialists and plantation owners
to try to create a divide within working people, and

(34:04):
he courted a guy by the name of Advance Muse,
who ended up being kind of the front person to
go into a number of the segregated states in the
South and get them to pass what they called was
right to work legislation in the nineteen forties, from about
nineteen forty four to about nineteen forty eight. Now, why

(34:26):
this is important is because unions really workers were really
trying to gain a lot of power in the nineteen
thirties and forties because workers were, you know, being killed
at work and there was no protections. There was no laws,
there was no rules on the books, there's no regulatory factors.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
Killed on you're referring to working conditions and so forth.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Right, literally killed them, Yeah, yeah, going to work and
you know, dying on the job because there's no protections,
and so you know, workers you know dying in minds,
assembly lines, you know, having you know, limbs cut off
and you know, burning in buildings, being locked in buildings.
You know, this is all well documented. It's not me
making this stuff up. There was no you know, there
was very little, if not any regulatory factors for protections

(35:08):
on when it comes to workers, eight hour workday all that.
So nineteen thirties, the workers started in the twenties, really
started to gain some steam in the thirties, get into
the forties, workers are moving massively by the millions. Workers
are demanding collective bargaining, demanding union contracts, and millions of
workers are mobilizing into the space and effectively getting their

(35:28):
employers to recognize and get contracts. And so clearly at
the time you have industrialists, you have you know, the
super wealthy plantation owners, you know, because there's still plantations
at that time, and massive land owners who are trying
to suppress this sort of kind of rebellious stage of

(35:49):
workers saying hey, you know, we want a fair share.
So they come up with this term right to work
because it sounds good. And what does it do really,
what it boils down to is it allows somebody it's
in a right to work state or a right to
work environment. Because even in non right to work states,
there are some right to work environments. It allows workers

(36:11):
to say I don't want to pay dues to the
union because I'm in a collective bargaining agreement and I
want a free ride. I want to be a freeloader.
And the history, I think that if everybody understood the
actual history to this, they probably would be very reluctant
to even entertain the subject because the history was started

(36:33):
by William Ruggles based on race and essentially arguing that
white people didn't have to pay dues to be part
of a union that allowed blacks. Absolute fact. Is inflammatory
as this may sound, it is absolutely true. And if
you go to a Teamster's nineteen thirty two forward slash

(36:57):
rtw which is right to dot org, you can see
a video. I've done a number of videos on this
subject where we talk in depth about some of these points,
so that you know, trying to educate the general public
and educate our members on the history of this, because
think about that. First of all, most issues of racism
are usually born out of some divide between workers or

(37:22):
the classes of workers, and it's usually some super wealthy
person who is trying to get workers to fight with
one another, and they use the usually the differences in
race to get them to fight with each other. And
if you can get workers, if they're white, to fight
with black workers or brown or any other race to
fight with each other, or men and women to fight
with each other, then guess what the super wealthy win.

(37:46):
And that is exactly what they right to work was
after they were like, look, you don't have to participate
in a union. That allows for black people to be
in their organization is an absolute fact. So that carries
between forty four and forty eight, nineteen forty four and
nineteen forty eight, and a number of southern states obviously

(38:08):
pass this legislation and allow it to exist. And so
clearly this law, this rule, which I think is crazy
because unions are the only business in America that's literally
forced to do work for free. Imagine if imagine if
you went to a restaurant at the barbecue restaurant, and

(38:31):
all barbecue restaurants people weren't required to actually pay for
services when they get there. I mean, imagine how many
people will come in and just say yeah, yeah, yeah,
well you know I'm not going to pay, so see you,
and you know I got my sandwich, and I got
my breakfast brito, and I got this, and I got that.
You know, business wouldn't survive, and so this is something
that unions have to operate and we have to survive
in this space. And it's obviously purposely propped up by

(38:54):
the super wealthy. So let me give a little bit
more history from the forties, fifties and sixties, and so
the ugly truth of right to work is obviously first
based in race and racist you know, principles and bigotry
and fighting desegregation because obviously in the nineteen fifties and

(39:16):
sixties there was a big movement to stop segregation in
the South, and stop there was a desegregation movement, right
is to make sure that people didn't have a separate bathroom,
or separate meetings or a separate water faucet. You know,
clearly we look back now and go, this really happened,
and it's a bit puzzling. Yes, this did happen, and

(39:36):
that happened based on based on exploitation of workers. And
obviously there's other racists. There's other issues that drive racism,
but from our perspective, we see the biggest one is
usually about exploiting workers. And you know why did I
choose this subject today was really because they touched on
it based on Michigan repealing this right to work law.

(40:00):
And it's been the first time that something like that's
happened in a very long time. And it was shocking
that Michigan actually went right to work a decade ago,
because it's a very working class area. But what happened
to Michigan was these corporations removed a bunch of jobs
out of the rust Belt into where the South. The
South said, oh yeah, bring these new jobs. They weren't
new jobs, they were displaced shops that were from the

(40:22):
rust Belt moved into the South. They got new tax breaks,
incentives and all that stuff, and then it was right
to work. And so of course someone in Alabama is
going to say, our business model doesn't allow for this.
So now I think everybody you remember the term, let's say,
Frank and James, you remember the term Jim Crow laws. Correct, yes,

(40:43):
So obviously there was a bunch of Jim Crow laws
that were in place in the forties, fifties, and sixties,
and an organization by the name of the John Birch Society.
Some people still remember the name. Please look it up.
You would be shocked as to who was connected to
the John Birch Society. They the John Birch Society pushed

(41:04):
back against desegregation, wanted to maintain segregation because it was
a super wealthy of the time. And one of the
founders of the John Birch Society was Fred Coach of
the Koch Brothers. Fred Coach. Right, So now you look
at the Koch Brothers now and you see the stuff
that they're in with an organization called ALEC, which is

(41:26):
a l e C. The American Legislative Exchange Council. They're
the new John Birch Society. They're the new proponent for
a right to work. They're the new proponent to re
kind of fly flame flame the the or fan the
flames of this kind of stuff and to get workers
fighting amongst each other. You know, hey, if we're fighting

(41:47):
over crumbs, then guess what they're They're raking in a
tremendous amount of money. So let me let me just
give you some quick statistics and we'll get into some
dialogue that comes with it. Here's what's crazy in the
last fifty years as a union density that's the percentage
of workers that are unionized. In the fifties and sixties,
it was thirty six percent. Today it's down to about

(42:08):
ten percent. So that's clearly a huge decline. But you
also can see that far less people have retirement plans.
Back then, almost everybody had a retirement plan. Back then,
I just want to remind you of the work of
Power Hour with Randy cordon CASEAA one OZ, six point
five FM ten fifty AM got to do these for

(42:29):
FCC stuff. So anyway, you also had a time, you know,
back when union density was high where almost everybody had healthcare,
almost everybody had a retiree medical component of some sort,
and there were things that were just kind of a
staple with work. And if you went somewhere, it wasn't
this contingent workforce like you see now. It was a
workforce that the employer was proud to say, hey, you

(42:51):
come to work for me. You can work your entire
career here, and you can retire at a decent age,
and you can buy a home and support your family.
Clearly those things have shifted. So now what I want
to explain is because of the prominence of right to
work and how union density has fallen the statistics that
have come with it, So obviously we see less of
those things I just said. Then you also when you

(43:12):
see right to work states, because it's a state a
legislative item, not a federal one. Yet at some point
they have tried to make it federal, and the last
time they tried to do that was twenty seventeen and
again in twenty eighteen. And so if you look at
the states that are right to work versus the states
that are not right to work, you would think, oh, well,

(43:33):
the states that are right to work should be better. Well,
you know what, Wages are twenty two percent lower in
right to work states. It's a fact. Those that have
medical benefits is twenty one percent lower in a right
to work state. Here's the most shocking number that just
blows me away. Forty nine percent higher death rate on

(43:56):
the job in a right to work states, which means
that their jobs are less se again why because less
union density, not as many people contributing to the system,
and as a result of laws aren't strong enough to
protect workers. Poverty is much higher in right to work states,
and so they, oh, it's right to work, blah blah blah, blah.
So the first state to pass public employee rights to

(44:21):
bargain was Wisconsin. Ironically, it was the first state to
repeal it in twenty eleven. So in twenty eleven they
repeal it the right to work ALEC. This whole organization
gets out there and they turn their machine on and
they say, you know what, we're only going to do
public employees. They're taking a much money out of the
system and all the bs villainization that goes on of it,

(44:46):
and we're not going to touch firefighters, and we're not
going to touch police, and we're not going to touch
this group in that group. But they did, they divided
everybody and then as soon as that passed, if you
look ten years later, you look at how much less
all those positions pay. They then went after all the
other position and then pulled away bargaining for all of
those other ones. And what did they do with the money?
They actually give them money and tax breaks for companies

(45:08):
like Fox con that that got billions of dollars in
infrastructure breaks and tax breaks, but didn't produce any of
the jobs they said they were going to produce. So
why would they do this? Obviously, this is a money
grab corporate America, whether it's industrialists or corporations or you
know these super crazy, you know rich CEOs now that

(45:29):
that you know, like doctor evil ish type situations where
they control the world. You know, why would they do it?
So the same amount of money is kind of circulating
through the economy. Yeah exactly, doctor evil, That same same
amount of moneys uh circulating through the economy. But corporate
profits are higher than they've ever been over the last
forty years. Why because they're no longer paying for these

(45:52):
retirement plans, no longer paying for health care like they
did by percentage or at the same level in which
they did before. They're not providing retire remedical they're not
providing wages at the level in which were comparable to
the same timeframe, And so where did the money go
in their pockets? And that is why there's so much
more money at the top at the top of it,

(46:12):
and they've essentially wiped out retirement plans. Oh, everybody's got
a four one K. That's not a retirement plan, that's
a savings plan. Yeah, four on one ks are good,
But the originators of the four oh one K code
are actually very disappointed that in all these years. It
was never intended to be a replacement of retirement retirement vehicle.
It was supposed to be a supplement. It was supposed

(46:34):
to be an ad And so they actually came out
about five years ago, the original authors of the four
to one K code and said, we are extremely disappointed.
It was actually, I think with General Electric that they
first propped it up and used it as a basis
to start. And it was never intended to replace the
retirement system. And so the last thing I'll touch on
before we just have kind of open dialogue, and you
guys asked some questions, is the retire remedical portion like

(46:59):
villainizing everybody asking too much to have retire medical. Okay,
if i work for a company and i work in
a warehouse and I do this really tough job, or
I'm a driver, or I'm in a production facility or
whatever it is, any job, and I go to work
from when I'm twenty and I work forty years, literally
forty years of my life, and I have beat up
my body, I have physically beat down this situation over

(47:21):
and over again. You're telling me I'm gonna make it
to seventy. No, I'm not physically gonna make it to seventy.
So why wouldn't there be what we call retiree medical
Why wouldn't there be something that creates a gap between
that time and I get to medicare. If the job
I've performed the last forty plus years has actually beat

(47:41):
me down physically to a level I can't continue to
do it anymore, someone say oh, you need to move
on and do something else. You know, all those jobs
are necessary. You don't just say, oh, well's just move on. No,
what happened to either making it more safe and or
creating vehicles where people can retire at a relative decent
age and enjoy a certain time of their life without

(48:03):
being physically debilitated. So with that clearly right to work
in the oxymoron that it creates, that's just a brief
kind of history of the disgusting nature of it. And
as a matter of fact, Frank, I was looking at
you when I brought it up, and you were just
kind of like, oh my god, I can't believe that's
where it originated from. In other words, like you don't

(48:27):
have to participate in an organization that has black people
in it, So don't pay your dues. That is literally
where this started. Incredibly disgusting. What are your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Yeah, we still have some deep rooted issues that go
way back in our country and this appears to be
one of them that started, you know, from a bad
pass and it's still not a good thing. But I
think the idea that of being so I'm gather here

(49:00):
that the whole right to work thing is that you
don't have to.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Like pay to be in a union, like correct, you
can free load.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
So it's trying to like, you don't want to spend
a twenty dollars bill to make way more than twenty
dollars and be safer and uh, you know, over the
course of your career. It seems interesting to me that
you know, you know, oh, you know, it sounds it
sounds good to say, oh, you shouldn't have to pay
to be in a union if you don't want to

(49:27):
be in a union or whatever, But if you actually
do research on what unions do for you, it's well
worth it.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, it's pennies on the dollar exactly. It's a small percentage,
especially when you think of if if you look at
non union versus union, and the percentages are between eighteen
to twenty five percent difference in wages just on that alone.
Healthcare is even even even wider sort of band because
the difference between union healthcare and workers that are represented

(49:55):
by a union in their healthcare is immensely difference, that
different than and those that are non union. And so,
oh yeah, I don't have to pay fifty or seventy
or eighty bucks a month like the exchange to be
losing twenty two percent. That is exactly what corporate America
wants you to do, right They They want you to
fall into that trap and say, yeah, sure, you know,

(50:16):
I should get this. I shouldn't have to pay for this,
and then guess who has control now? James, what do
you think?

Speaker 7 (50:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (50:22):
Well, you know, I think you you said it best
as you were describing everything. You said it a couple
of times. It legitimately is the ugly truth about right
to work, and it is a very ugly history, and
I think unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Do you know that it was it was based in
that no.

Speaker 8 (50:39):
That I know about right to work, but I didn't.
I didn't know the you know, the foundation on which
it was built on. And it's horrible. I mean, who crazy?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I almost want to tell everybody that tries to not
pay their dues or that supports us right to work?
Stuff like, do you know how racist that this literally
originated from complete racist agenda?

Speaker 8 (51:02):
It could be a racist business model. Perhaps that's still existing.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Well, I guess why the guy in Alabama thought that
it was an attack on their business model.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Law.

Speaker 8 (51:10):
Wow, that's something else. So what conversations do do people like?
Should people like me be having with other you know,
workers unfortunate? I'm in the Teamsters, I'm you know, proud
of my union. What about other people who are seeing
a different side of this? You know, what are your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
On I don't know. You know, the question I like
to ask is on the sides? What side do you want?
You know, are you on the side of Vance Muse
or are you on the side of Martin Luther King.
It's that simple.

Speaker 8 (51:40):
That's a good way to put it.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
That's how our video puts it, right. I actually at
the very end of the video, if you go on
our website and take a look at it, and you
should do that anybody's listening. Go on Teamsters nineteen thirty two.
You can go to about page and go to videos
and pull it up. Or you can just type in
Teamsters nineteen thirty two slash right rt W and there

(52:02):
it is on the screen there and and and actually
look at that. At the very end, I asked the question,
I actually have a picture of Martin Luther King on
the video and basically say, what side are you on?
Right there? Go back up if you scroll up right there?
That is it the truth of right to work? That
that right there? Like it's like, it's that simple. It

(52:23):
is sides. Am I on the side of what Martin
Luther King fought for? Or am I on the side
of what somebody like Vance Muse or William Ruggles tried
to create? And then others want to exploit that like, oh, okay, well, okay,
I'm not a racist, but now I just don't want
to pay dues because I don't like your political stance. Okay, Well,

(52:45):
do you like the political stance of your bank? Do
you like the political stance of your mortgage company? Do
you like the political stance of the person that you're
renting from your contract? You're like, yeah, do you like
the political stance of your phone contract?

Speaker 6 (52:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Like?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
You still you know, you still have to have these services,
You still have to have these things that function. It's
it's like me saying, oh, I don't like the I
don't like my city, and so I'm not gonna pay
my water bill anymore. I don't want to pay my
water bill, but you still got to give me the water,
like you know, or I don't I don't like my city,
I don't I don't want to pay my taxes anymore.
I don't like the president, so I don't want to
pay my taxes anymore. Like your the economy would literally

(53:22):
fall apart, and so unions. This is what we have
been dealing with, literally, you know, for for for seventy years,
and we've got like three two and a half minutes.
So yeah, no, it's shocking.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
It's it's shocking. But knowing the history, you know, I'm meant,
I just can't believe it still exists to this day.
You know, it's just unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
And you know, how did it just get destroyed? Right?
Just shut down and everybody realized what it really is? Yes,
corporate America. Wow, corporate America just carrying the message. Frank,
do you want to add anything to this?

Speaker 4 (53:53):
I think people if you need an example of how
money people with a lot of money can be powerful
about how many people voted against their best interests because
of something someone with a lot of money told them, well,
you know, oh you don't deserve to make more. It's
like no one's saying a CEO can't be rich, but
we we you know, people deserve to make a fair
amount for what they do.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
And you know what's crazy is every every elected official,
and I know we got to wrap the show up,
but every elected official I interview and I talked to
and I actually ask them, do you know what right
to work even means? At first they think they do.
And when I just give them a little bit of history,
I go, do you know how right to work started?

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They all go, you know, I actually don't. I've never
actually went tried to BS me on it. And when
I explained it to them, they go, they're shocked. They
actually I'm like, look, go look it up, man, don't
just don't just depend on my version of this, because
we vetted this before I produced something, I made sure
that we vetted the accuracy of this. And and I'm

(54:57):
shocked at elected officials. They just don't know and they
don't understand what that term is. I'm talking us senators,
I'm talking congress people, I'm talking all that, and so
I know I got to wrap up. I got I
got probably a minute left, and you know, I can't
really take any more questions right now. But I hope
that this show gets shared in a way that people

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understand how in so many ways who've been misled, so
many ways, workers have been misled over and over again.
And you know what we're doing is we're building worker
power in the Inland Empire. You can see our billboards,
you can see all the things that we're doing in
the area, and we're just trying to educate workers on
what they can do. This is Randy Corgan with the
Worker Power our KCA one oh six point five FM,

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