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April 30, 2025 • 120 mins
KCAA: The Worker Power Hour on Wed, 30 Apr, 2025
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Speaker 1 (01:01):
Usa us USA, USA, USA, usu usus Usa, USA, and

(16:18):
Lucy Parsons is actually one of those individuals that literally
was right at the center of mobilizing, agitating, and making
this happen.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
She also edited and wrote a for a number of
newspapers in her time, and she really really wrote about
about the issue regarding freeing the Scottsboro Brothers, the Scottsboro Boys,
and other black prisoners from that era that were being

(16:52):
you know, set up, framed, killed, and otherwise prosecuted in
many different ways because because they were standing up for
social justice and they were standing up for what many
of us just expect our community to be like today.
And so really really coming up to May Day in
a day in which I guess I'd have to do

(17:14):
the math off the top of my head, but you're
talking twenty five, thirty five forty six years ago, one
hundred and forty six years ago, on May first, she led,
her and her husband led eighty thousand workers on that march. Now,
mind you, her husband was killed in this activity. Her
husband who who Albert, was ultimately set up, framed and

(17:40):
killed by the police department, and you know it, at
the end of the day, and hanged. Just it's when
you look back into our history and you recognize what
workers in labor had to do, what leaders in the
labor movement had to do from the eighteen fifties into
the ninth teen fifties, that one hundred years. And to

(18:02):
see how many of them this happened to. It's in
the hundreds, if not thousands, more than likely the thousands easily.
And it's really important for us coming into may day
to pay attention to people like Lucy and Albert Parsons.
So thank you for what you did. Really appreciate, really
appreciate that sacrifice that you all made. And I know

(18:25):
you know they're not alive to hear it, but I
believe that the energy of the universe hears us in
a speaking to them in a special space. And so
let me make sure I don't have anything else to
cover in that space. Oh yeah, I got the movie.
Thanks Robert, you got me, You got me on my
on my toes here with my agenda. So mate, Mantawan

(18:48):
is it Mantajuan? So earlier, this is a movie from
nineteen eighty seven and we were going over the review
of this and Robert said, oh, that's from a long
time ago, nineteen eighty seven, Robert eighty seven, Like he's
laughing over here, he's dyet in eighty seven. I was

(19:10):
in high school, So I mean, I guess that's a.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Long time ago.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
But he made it sound like it was like one
hundred years ago. I guess to you, nineteen eighty seven
sounds like one hundred years ago. So the movie in
nineteen eighty seven was a western and a drama, and
it is a historical drama film directed by John Selis
that depicts a pivotal moment in American labor history. Set
in the nineteen twenties in West Virginia, the film follows

(19:36):
the efforts of coal miners, and for anybody that knows
how difficult coal mining was, that's a job, especially in
the nineteen twenties, that killed every single person that worked
in that industry, many of them immigrants and black workers
who tried to unionize under the brutal conditions in the
company owned town of Maya Town. I'm sorry, Mattawan. The

(19:57):
story centers around Joe Keenan, a union organizer from the
United Mine Workers who arrives to help unify the miners
against the exploitive coal company. As tensions rise, the company
hires armed agents to intimidate and divide the workers, leading
to a violent and emotional confrontation known as why am
I having a hard time pronouncing this one more time?

(20:20):
Madawan Madiwan Massacre. The Madawan Massacre a real life event.
Madawan powerfully explores themes of a class struggle, solidarity, racism,
and corporate oppression, offering a gripping and emotional portrayal of
the early labor movement in America. And it's also a
reminder of how difficult those jobs were in the coal

(20:44):
mines and what those workers had to do to try
to build a safe environment, clearly many of them dying.
And then when they pushed back upon the owners, guess what,
they hired a bunch of people to go in and
beat them up and kill them and do all these
crazy things. So I'm going to get into some of
these other facts here. I'm going to shift gears and

(21:04):
move to our Teamster Advantage Partnership. For those of you
who don't know, our Team's Advantage program has more than
a thousand small businesses connected to us. It's one of
the programs that I'm most proud of that we've built out.
We advertise for all those small businesses for free. We
encourage our members through our Teamster Advantage app, which is
a new one, by the way, I'll talk about that
here shortly. We encourage our members to participate in nearly

(21:27):
thirty thousand households between Teamster's local nineteen thirty two and
sixty three that are engaging in the app, and we're
also participating in more than twenty five chambers of commerce
in the region, where we're just trying to make sure
that small business understands that we're here, also that you're
utilized in a positive way, and that you go to

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a small business owner before you go to a big
box retail or you go to a competitor for the
small business owner that would be, you know, a big
corporate owned entity of some sort. Small business owners are
just like our members. They're working class people that are
doing ever they can to just get their family to
safe and provide for them and make sure their kids

(22:12):
get the soccer practice and all that good stuff. And
we love this program because it's our way to give
back and it's our way to engage our membership with
the small business community. And it also encourages the shop
local and make sure everybody understands the shop local program.
And so today we're joined by Steven Espinoza, who is
with SE Marketing, and I believe he had the round

(22:32):
of applause there. I believe, Steven, you've been a partner
with us for like three years now, and I want
to point out something. Thank you for the donation to
our training center that you made a couple of years ago.
You donated a significant sum of money to help us
get our training center off the ground. Really appreciate that
and really appreciate your commitment to the community. You want

(22:53):
to take a few minutes and talk about your mortgage company.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Sure, my name is Steven Espinoza. I've been in the
business roughly twenty three years and it doesn't look like it,
but hey, I've been in the business twenty three years
and my bread and butter is the duel income blue
collar family. And you know, it's before you really didn't
need much to do alone. You know, you just needed
a pulse. And nowadays, you know, because of the last

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meltdown we had, everything is full documentation, full transparency, so
it's a little bit harder to qualify, and especially with
rates being a little bit high right now and the
prices of homes are a little bit high now, it's
a little bit harder to qualify. But you know, I
have two clients that just closed in San Bernardino. The
house was four seventy five and it was it was
the mother, the son, and the daughter that had been

(23:41):
renting an apartment for eighteen years. But they were scared.
They were embarrassed to ask, you know, what does it
take or you know what's the payment? And I asked them, well,
where do you want to.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Have to be rewarding for you to help people take
that journey?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Absolutely, And it's so funny because I told, Okay, we're done.
So we're done. We're done. No more paperwork, No more paperwork. Yeah,
because there was a lot of paperwork. It's a hell
of a process, you know what I mean. But it
is what it is. I'm used to it. But these
people are always so scared, like they're not going to qualify,
We're going to take their money and they're going to
be left with this debt. I said, no, don't worry
about that. You know, in the end, I will tell you.
You know, we're good to go or you know, we

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still need more paperwork. But you know, it was a
little bit daunting for them. But for the most part,
I told them, where do you want to live and
give me an example of a home, and I told
this would be the price, you know, your multi payment.
And they say, hey, that's not bad because they thought
they were looking at somewhere it's gonna be four thousand
and forty five hundreds and know it's like thirty three
hundred bucks. And they said, you know, that's doable for them.
And I said, remember, once we close, then you're going

(24:36):
to have about a month or maybe two before you
make the first payment and then you start. And they said, okay.
You know, it was great. They wanted to move out
to the apartment. They could paint it any color they want,
they could have their dogs running around. You know, it
was a it was a really touching moment for them,
but also too, like the way it's always described, you know, food, clothing,
and shelter are like the three constants. I sell one

(24:57):
of them, which is you know, shelter. But tell people
the way you have to look at it, this is,
you know, sixty percent of America's wealth was built on
real estate. So if they you know, just for even numbers,
let's just say they have a five hundred thousand dollars purchase,
they put down five percent, they're at four ninety five
and ten years their loan balance will you know, be
at around maybe four, you know, twenty five. So there's

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seventy five thousand dollars from the original purchase price. But
now the house has gone up to six hundred thousand.
So the difference between six hundred thousand and four to
seventy five is its roughly one hundred and seventy five thousand.
That's cash and that's equity. And I tell people, as
you know, you as time goes by, the balance goes
down and the price goes up, and that's cash you
could borrow. And I tell them only in an emergency

(25:41):
would you really want to borrow the money, But for
the most part, like, let's use it to create generational
wealth and buy another property. And and they always look
at me like, oh, we don't want to go through
the process again, and say, you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Not that easy.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
If you're if you're gonna rent your primary house, then
we'll use a rental agreement to offset the payment. And
then you could, you know, go ahead and qualify without
that payment going forward.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
But yeah, it's it's it's it's got to be you. Now,
how long have you been.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Doing this twenty three years, so you've.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Definitely seen people take that journey and and obviously be
able to build up some a little bit of wealth
and assets personally. So it's got to be extremely rewarding,
especially in situations like you just described, somebody's been renting
for a very long period of time and then they're
able to purchase thrown home because you know, one of

(26:28):
the pillars of the American dream is home ownership, and
you're you're a conduit for that. Yes, So you also
have been participating in our car shows you have been to? Yes?
Were you at this year's car show?

Speaker 4 (26:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Unfortunately I couldn't make it. It was a little bit hectic,
but I went. I came the year before.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, you I see that you've participated in as a
vendor and many of our car shows in the past. Boy,
you missed a big one this year too.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Did I don't tell me.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
It was even bigger. It was twice the size of
this year than it was last year.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
It was awesome. It was so many people and it's
so really cool. Thing is like everyone's really nice, open,
and you know, it's a great group of people. I
think I really like the labor movement because people aren't
so uptight. You know. There are a lot of places
that go will market and a lot of people don't
want to talk to you no matter what. But all
the people you know that came to the event, and
especially the teamsters, want to talk to you and they

(27:18):
ask you questions and they were just really open nice.
You know, it was really a great event.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, I have missed a couple of shoutouts here. Lisa
Vasquez AARMC, Markeisha Waller, AARMC, EPIC Department, char Maine Cole Rov. Sorry.
I always try to get the live shout outs. I
find it's important. People people throw a stone at me, We.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Wanted to keep listening, right, That's correct, That's correct.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
You got any funny stories? Oh well you gotta have
some crazy story. Yeah I do, but like the funniest
one personally to me. Like I used to go in
when I first started in the business.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know, I used to give the people the best advice, like,
oh my god, I use thirty percent of your credit
utilization and why do you have these collections? But I
had horrible credit.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I used to give the best advice and I had
the worst credit.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Ever. Well, I used to feel like you could give,
but you never take right. That's the funny part. I
used to tell people like, you know, what are you doing?
How come you don't pay your bills? And I was
a prime example.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
So and of course I had to learn the hard
way on how credit works and how to repair your
credit and you know, and how to use it, you know,
how to leverage your credit to to make wise decisions.
Was was a big learning curve for me.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
So you clean up your credit too, Yeah, I did.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I had to realize I can't fix the inside with
outside things.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
That's a funny.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
I like this.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
His funny story was a little self deprecating. Yeah, I mean,
you beat yourself up a little bit. It admitted a
little bit of vulnerability here.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
And I would see like I would see a lot
of self made people come in and and like the
most unassuming people would come in and and this one
guy said, well, I'm you know, I have a gardening
business and have another side business and and the agent said, hey,
I have this appointment. Can you come in and said, okay,
super non assuming guy. And he had a house that

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was worth one point three he already paid off like
a million, you only know three hundred thousand, and he
wanted to buy the neighbor's house because she was racist,
and they said as soon as like it came up
for sale. He wanted to buy the neighbor's house because
every time they would have friends or family over, she
would she would talk like she was Yeah, she was
a nuisance. And so they bought the house.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
That's a good story.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
And so I told him, like, you know, Mouhamma goes, well,
I you know, I make about forty thousand dollars a month,
and I said really, so yeah, So we took a
look and he's well, yeah, I don't. I come in
and I go like, oh, they want to buy one
point you know, one point five million dollar house? Are
you sure? And then I go out and I just
learned you cannot assume that's right because the people that

(29:47):
really have money save their money, and the people that
don't have money try to show like they have money.
And and that was that was a big lesson and
super non assuming guy and and you know, he was
just really frugal with this money and that's why they
had it. Yeah, and he was able to buy the
neighbor's house. They're looking for a commercial lot right now.
He has an auto repair business and he's a gardener.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And so one of the reasons you donated to the
training center was you'd like to teach a class at
the training center on like financial literacy and home financing.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Absolutely, I think if you know, I believe in your cause.
I think what you guys are doing is admirable. And
I really do believe in it because, you know, the
kids of the future and if we don't start teaching them,
you know now about financial literacy, unfortunately, they were probably
have the same issues I did when I was young,
and I just think they need to know how credit works.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
How far. I was just going to say bad credit.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah it was bad. We've all been there. Yeah, No,
it was bad. I just didn't want to pay any
of my bills. You know, look at my back account,
said well there's money in there, so I'll just pay
half of this credit card or I'm just going to
pay half because.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I wanted the others. You know, I wanted the money.
You're right, you got to teach you got to teach this.
You got to teach everybody that and especially at a
certain age that seems to be missing. And that's a
very good suggestion. I know. We have had a couple
financial literacy different financial literacy classes for the training center
which are have been packed. Yeah, we were surprised at
how many people showed up to some basic financial literacy stuff.

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So it was really it was really good to see
and you know, we thought, oh okay, we'll get you know,
thirty forty no room completely full, because it's been it's
been awesome to see this.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
And especially the working class. You know, they they they
work hard for their money.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
You know, and they learn how to handle it at
the best to their to to work into their advantage.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
The misty in because they don't have anything to fall
back on, that's right, you know, they don't. They're not
self employed, they don't have like extra income nothing like that.
They just got to go back to work and keep
earning what they're earning. So it's harder for them.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
And a lot of what they have has been built
over time. It's saving just a little bit at a
time and piling it up and being frugal and not overspending. Yeah, yeah, no,
we really appreciate that. Did you hear about our career
day that we had here on March twelfth? We had
almost six hundred kids here. Wow? Yes, did a field
trip here. Had forty employers and like thirty high schools

(32:03):
with field trips that dropped the kids off and they
went checked out all the different jobs. It was, it was,
it was pretty phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
It was.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
It was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Six hundred yep, that's really really amazing, not no exaggeration,
it was and it was it was. It was on
fire from about eight thirty in the morning until about one, right, Robert, Yeah,
it just just constant and all the tables with all
of the different jobs were full and the kids were
learning different you know, careers and asking questions and great

(32:35):
interaction from those that did the job.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I think it's so important now because unfortunately social media.
Every kid looks at, you know, their phone, and they
look at social media and they're going to become an influencer.
Are they going to become rich by a post? Are
they going to become rich by selling something? You know,
it's all about grassroots and showing these kids that you know,
they need a p.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
It was like the invention sort of thing from our
our era. Yeah, if you invented something and became a gazillionaire,
you didn't have to worry about working. Today, that same
sort of lure is is being an influencer, being.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
An influencer, but it's it's it's not stable income.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
No, you know, yeah, and it's it neither is being
an inventor.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
No, but it's that one percent, you know, it's that
one percent of the whole world where you're gonna either
get lucky or you're not. But I think it's important
that and I support your cause absolutely.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah. And Robert just pointed out that they came in
not knowing what career to enter, and many of them
left with a plan so important. You know. We had
the superintendent schools on last week and he had suggested
great suggestion that in a in a you know, in
a maybe in a month or in a few weeks
after it's been a couple months and say we're here,

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we follow up with them and see what they've done
to take the next step regarding what they learned from
that event. And so yeah, man, it's it's great. So
we really appreciate the relationship and the partnership. There anything
else you want to cover on this part of the
show before we wrap up this segment.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's going to wrap up already started.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
You know where you want to take the whole half
hour or what I just called the worker power hour
there you go see marketing hour.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
So so I I think, you know, like I said,
I think what what what you're doing is important, and
I think you know, kids need to be mentored more
than ever. You know, there's there's so much strife and
there's so much stuff going on. I think they really
need in choice. But you know, you could you could
talk to a kid or you know, any type of
person that's that's down to the look blue in the face.
But it's when you actually pick them up and show

(34:34):
them you know there there that there's a path, there's
there's a way out, that there's some type of resolution
to their issue because you know, they they look for
in other places. And I think your training centers is
is that's such a an amazing thing that needed to
happen in this Area's average you.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Know, yeah, we're we're really happy and again we really
appreciate the relationship and the partnership, and you know, we'll
make sure you know. Yeah, another good one, Robert here,
any advice to young person who wants to be a homeowner.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, just reach out to me. Just reach out to me.
Let me show you my my My go to is
always show me where you want to live. Let's look
at the payment, and if you're comfortable with that payment,
let's make an offer. Oh yeah, for sure. Like I'm
sure you know.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
The funny thing is people you don't want to you
just got to keep dreaming wrong. You wouldn't get along
with those people. Yeah, you know, Robert's got some flair. Yeah,
Robert's got some flair. I bet you he would fit in.
Robert's trying to I think Robert is just comes out
of Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, now you can, Robert whatever you want to do.
I'm telling you never able.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
To rent square about nine.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
But hey, it correct.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
That's all that matters. That's what it is about anything
else you want to talk about the great question. By
the way, Robert, thanks.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
For you know, I offer an incentive. You know, of course,
being an affiliate of Teamsters offer an incentive so we
I would offer person, I believe in the fast dime
as opposed to the slow quarter. So I will give
you a quarter off of the pricing on the rate,
and we'll give you off a quarter on the pricing
of the origination. Yeah so no, I mean I don't

(36:14):
want to get was it just a quarter?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I was clarifying.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Okay, So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna be completely honest,
all right, No, no, how many people? How many people
are listening? I don't know, have a few hundred at least.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
Yeah, so you could be talking to about thirty five
thousand right now.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Oh god, it is what it is. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I was trying to bring it down. No, no, no,
I was hoping.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
So we make I get this. This is live case
one six points. I get paid two ways. I get
paid when we we we pencil the rate, you know,
depending on what par is, which means floor. You're not
going to make anything off of it. We pencil a
little bit higher, so we make something off of the
rate in the back, and then I charge one point
in the front, which is the origination. So I will

(36:59):
cut the first the point in the front. I will
cut it down to a half a point and then
on the rate in the back, I will cut it
down to it's it's normally we'll cut it down by
a quarter. All right, Yeah, no, absolutely pretty fair. No,
it is and and and call me and I'll show
you shop around I have. If they're gonna go with me,
they're gonna go with I don't want to shop anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, no, please no, but I'll show you there with
someone else you wanted to shop around with you, They're
gonna go.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
They're gonna love my, my, my service, they're gonna love
my personality. And I'm fully transparent like it is what
it is, because I got nothing to hide.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, that's great. Those are great discounts.

Speaker 8 (37:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
We're being joined by with Steven Espinoza with se Marketing.
You got anything else you want to talk about? Any other?
So anything else you want to give away?

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, you know, the the the home prices are high,
but the rates are a little bit high too. So
once you buy the home, we could refinance you, especially
with an f AHA, you could refinance in six months
without having to go through the full call of it.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Again.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
We just sent a letter a verification of employment to
your job to make sure you're still working and we
lower the rate.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Great. Yeah, and what do you think that financial literacy
class would look like?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
It would look like an introduction to.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Credit.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
It would be an introduction to how interest works, how
it can work against.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, interest, I'll tell you understanding how interest is stacked
at the beginning. How you know it's not just like, well,
ten you get a ten percent Let's just use ten
percent as an easy example of a ten percent interest
on something. It's not like ten percent of the payment
you have is going to interest and the other ninety
percents going to principle. Yeah, the way all the interest

(38:44):
is actually front loaded on the front end of interest
when you do borrow money. It's actually pretty scary when
you really look at the scale. But there's a trick
to it too. If you're able to pay down the
interest excuse me, paid on the principle, pay a certain
amount on a regular basis, it really really piles up
quick and it prevents you from paying interest on the

(39:05):
back side of the loone.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yes, but also too, you're going to be the perks
are there is write offs on your taxes for the
interest that you pay for fine us on your taxes
for the property taxes, and there's write offs on your
taxes for the insurance and also too. I tell people
you know there you're gonna be it's it's well worth it.
The sacrifice is well worth it. And with your income

(39:27):
tax when you get your income taxes, use that to
pay down the principle. And every month you see, you know,
seven hundred and ninety nine going to interest only one
hundred and fifty principle, double the principle. That's correct, and
it cuts no, if you do it every month, it'll
cut down more than fifteen years. That's right, fifteen years
of interest for the most part. Let's just say you
a fire.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
If you double your principle every single month, it cuts
down the payment more than a half.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
To fifteen years. Get it's easy to qualify for a
thirty year mortgage because the term is spread out so
far it's a lower payment. But if you pay double,
if you pay the double principle, you'll pay it off
in fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Let's make it clear, not double the payment, just double
the principle.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, that's trouble the principle. But if you look at
fifteen years of interest, you're saving at least one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars on interest.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
That's correct. Well, thanks for the advice. Really appreciated Stephen. Again,
one last time, you got anything else you want to cover?

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Yeah. Well again, thanks for coming on. We've been joined
by Stephen Espinoza with se Marketing. This is Randy Corgan
and the Worker Power Our CASEA ten fifty AM one
or six point five FM and the Teamsters Local nineteen
thirty two Broadcast Network, airing live from Sambordino. Let's take
a quick break, play some music for about thirty forty.

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Choose the road on the west side, all right?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Randy Corgan back on the Worker Power Hour case EAA
ten fifty AM, one O six point five FM and
the Teamsters nineteen thirty two Broadcast Network, Aaron Live from
Sam Bordino. Well, that was good. I mean those are
pretty pretty big discounts. I know, trying to understand mortgages
and all that good stuff is a little difficult for

(42:47):
some people. Sometimes it's a little overwhelming. I think you
did a pretty good job of kind of explaining just
get into it, man, look at it, figure it out,
figure out how much you can afford, and start to
get into home ownership and try not to hesitate too much.
And and you sometimes you'll be surprised at what path
you can get on instead of instead of renting if

(43:07):
that's your current situation, or like you said, trying to
build more wealth by maybe purchasing additional property and renting
out which existing what you have. Somebody can help you
kind of move in that direction. Again, thanks a lot
for coming on and so what I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna cover news for the next bit, the next segment.
There's a lot going on in the news, a lot
I wanna want to I don't know what I'm gonna

(43:29):
call it, rail about it or more so just report
on it, or a combination of those things. But the
first thing that really sticks out is the judge blocks
of Trump administration from nixing collective bargaining for most federal employees.
And we're very, very happy with some of the actions
of these judges that are stepping in and stopping in

(43:51):
a lot of cases the unnecessary, you know, ripping through
collective bargaining like we're seeing current right now. Federal judge
ruled last Friday a temporary block on the Trump administration
from implementing an executive order that the AFGE, which we're
going to have somebody on from the AFGE actually after

(44:12):
the break to talk about how these things are impacting
their organization, and the union says it would cancel obviously,
the order that the AFG union says would cancel collective
bargaining rights for hundreds of thousands of federal employees. Union
president Doreen Greenwald said that this order is a victory

(44:34):
for federal employees, their union rights, and the American people
they serve. Couldn't be more clear, couldn't be more on point.
It's good to see that the judiciary is stepping in.
Federal judges are putting a stop to some of this overreach.
And the reality is that we have not seen an

(44:56):
attack on labor in more than seventy years like we
are seeing it currently right now, and it is good
to see that we can at least use some part
of the legal system to push back. Now many of
you've heard, regardless of that process, I think the most
powerful tool is what workers can do. I'm going to

(45:18):
talk a talk a little bit more about that later,
but the reality is what workers can do is a
lot of times more powerful than what any federal judge
can do. I got a live shout out from Warren
Pennington listening to live to the Worker Power Hour out
at the Desert Water Agency in the Desert. So the

(45:43):
next thing in the news, UPS is cutting twenty thousand
jobs amid reduction in the Amazon shipments and so UPS
on Tuesday announced it was planning to cut twenty thousand
jobs this year. Part of a cost cutting effort that's
linked to fewer deliveries from Amazon. It's the biggest customer.
You know, there's a suggested message for Randy here. I
guess because I have a little bit to do with this,

(46:04):
right Robert. You know, it's a clear signal that Amazon
is taking over the delivery service industry and further intensifies
the need to organize. Amazon. Well, they're not just taking
over the industry. They're really transforming the industry and changing
the industry, and not in a positive way. It's very
negative what we see the impacts to workers in an
industry that we have represented for more than one hundred

(46:26):
and twenty years. And I've said this over and over again.
If you don't think Amazon will affect you, you're wrong.
The worker power movement behind organizing out and Amazon will
need everybody to participate. Everyone has got to engage in
this process. And so you actually just the other just yesterday,
you saw some news where Amazon was going to put

(46:50):
on the price a little bit of money that the
cost of goods was going to go up because of
the tariffs, and immediately everybody freaked out, and you know,
the President stepped in and then got them to take
that off. Well, it's not going to stop the right
the increase in the price. I guess it's just going
to stop identifying why it's been increased. But Amazon is

(47:14):
a in a lot of ways, is a superpower and
is a huge corporate entity that needs to be checked
in many ways, and quite frankly, that people are going
to check it the most are workers themselves. In very
local labor news, Victorville Carrick, Doctor Pepper members reject the
contract and they authorize a strike. Now keep in mind

(47:37):
that this group of workers they organized in twenty twenty one,
they got their first contract and I think it was
twenty twenty two, and yeah, it would be twenty twenty two,
and now they're negotiating a renewal for their very first contract.
And we represent Teamster's Local nineteen thirty two represents a
little more than one hundred employees for Carrek, Doctor Pepper

(47:59):
and river Side in Palm Desert. Many of you may
be listening in live, but this is most likely going
to come to a labor dispute literally any day now.
And for many of you that don't remember, I just
want to remind you that we actually had a labor
dispute in Riverside in twenty thirteen, and we had that
for five days, ultimately resolved that labor dispute on the

(48:20):
fifth day, and the group went back to work the
following Monday. My point is is this has become a
huge corporation of forty four billion dollar valued corporation, and
it's not like a little small soda pop operation anymore.
And the reality is is they need to step up
to the plate. And that contract has been overwhelmingly rejected

(48:42):
and almost the unanimous strike vote on top of it,
and you know, the fallout from that is going to
be potentially potentially picket line. Once they have a picket
line there in Victorville, they have the right to extend
pickets to other locations, which could go to Los Angeles, Ventura,
Orange County, San Diego, Riverside, Palm Desert. And you know,

(49:06):
our our members, I know our members are have obviously
already heard about this and they're like, bring the pigot
line tomorrow. They're actually trying to They're trying to time
the strike in a way where, uh, you know, it
works for their weekend. That's what I'm thinking. I always
love these situations where the members are like, bring the
pigot line on Friday.

Speaker 10 (49:27):
UH.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Anyway, point is, there's a lot of labor disputes going on.
Obviously you've heard about s c i U UH in
Los Angeles, LA County, fifty five thousand workers on strike
over the last couple of days. You know this. This
there's activity going on right now, and it's important for
us to pay attention and to and to agitate it more,
lean into it more because it's workers taking action that's

(49:50):
going to control the trajectory of the future. In ib
T News, we have Teamsters at Finley Distribution. They voted
unanimously to authorize the strike. Car Schumann, who's the principal officer.
Her and I have known each other for multiple decades.
She runs the local Teamsters Local one O four in Arizona,

(50:10):
actually jurisdictions of the entire state of Arizona, and the
members at Local one O four at Finley Distributing, a
major beer and beverage distributor in southern Arizona, have voted
unanimously to authorize a strike. The vote comes after the
company's continued failure to offer a contract that reflects workers
critical contributions to its success. Typical fashion company gets built up,

(50:33):
workers do a great job of building that brand, building
the organization, and then they don't want to the employer
doesn't want to deliver, and so Teamsters at Dairy Farmers
of America actually hold practice pickets nationwide. Teamsters held practice
pickets at Dairy Farmers of America facilities in Englewood, Colorado, Milwaukee,

(50:56):
Salt Lake City, and throughout southern California to demand that
the employer come to terms on nineteen collective barging agreements
set to expire on May fifth. This is literally right
around the corner. Dairy Farmers of America is the largest
dairy cooperative in North America, and so putting them on notice,
getting them in the right space, getting them ready, and

(51:19):
getting them worked up. Dozens of nurses also Teamster nurses
in Washington ratify their first agreement. Dozens of nurses represented
by Teamster's Local seven sixty at Lake Chilean Health Hospital
in Washington State have voted to ratify a strong first
contracts a newly organized group. By the way, the group
of nurses joined Local seven sixty last year to secure

(51:42):
better compensation and a real voice on the job. With
their new three year contract they will have secured with
just the raises averaging twenty four percent, improvements in differential
and premium pay, higher retirement benefits, retirement benefits, robust a
grievance procedures, and other job protections. And the most important
is actually the grievance procedure and them actually having a

(52:04):
union contract versus being non union. So congratulations to them,
all of them. Really really good to see a success
like that. So I'm being reminded that Local one to
four they distribute Buzzball, truly, White Claws, and et cetera. Now,
these have become extremely what's buzzball? Oh it's a tequila base,

(52:28):
like one of those Seltzer type of the drink. Hey, Randy. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (52:31):
Their main line is Cores Miller.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Oh they're oh they're a Coors miller. Okay, oh gotcha,
so they would be got to get it.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
They have a lot of craft brews and also functional beverages.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, White Claws, Yeah, this super popular. So yeah, man,
they're making all kinds of money. They need to be
sharing of wealth, right, isn't that right, Robert? Yeah, especially
after festival season. Yeah, a good, very good point. Yeah,
for those who don't know. In the desert areas like those,
this season is just ramping down now. Summer is not

(53:04):
their peak season. Peak season in most of Arizona, Phoenix,
all over the place is really like October through March,
April and starting to when it starts to warm up,
everybody bales and they go to the upper Midwest or whatever.

(53:25):
That's where you get the whole snowbird situation in Teamsters
Local nineteen thirty two news. I failed to talk about
this last week and we had our April twelfth car show.
I know we talked a little bit about it, but
I just want to give some points that we hit

(53:47):
and having this incredibly successful event. I was just in
Pennsylvania and I had people all over the country that
we're talking about how they, I guess saw it on
social media or saw it in particular or you know, Facebook,
whatever it may be, saw it in a way that
they were just like they couldn't believe how big the
event was.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
And it was.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
We had over seven hundred cars, and man, you want
to talk about a lot of elected officials, and here's
what was What was kind of fun is every elected
official came and they're like, hey, you're gonna get on
the mic and talk for a minute, and you know,
I you know, let's be straight up. I didn't even
talk on the mic. I learned a few years ago
that at a car show that's got two bands and

(54:30):
a DJ, the only thing they want to hear coming
out of the speakers is the music and the Raffle winners.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
That is it.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
They don't want to hear any speeches. They don't want
to hear any political speeches. I noticed a few years
ago when we were trying to let a couple of
people talk that like everybody in the crowd was like,
who is what?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
It didn't matter who how important you were. They really
just you know, let's play the music and let me
tell me tell me if I won the Raffle prizes.
Point is is we had this. Every elected official was
like can I say something. We're like, well, you can
pull some Raffle prizes if you want, but the only
thing you're gonna do is be reading a number from
a Raffle ticket. You know, obviously I'm trying to make

(55:15):
a little bit of light of it, but it was
great to see them all here, including Mayor Helen Tran
Letitia Castillo. We had Luis Reyes's staff here. Robert Garcia
was here as assembly member. We had a congressmen, multiple
congressmen here including Mark Tacano, and then we also had
Joe Bacca, former Congressman Joe Baca, as well as council

(55:38):
member Flora's from Sambordino and others. And I really want
to thank our sponsors. We had dozens and dozens of
Teamster locals from all over the country sponsor including community
sponsors or Teamster advantage partners. We also had police and
fire out and so it was really nice to have
Sambordino PD. Yes, yes, we have become nice and on

(56:01):
really good start to come on much better terms with
Sambarantino PD. And it was nice to have him here
in a very positive environment. And it was great. They
had their horses here, their mount Patrol and they were
going around. The kids loved seeing the horses, and obviously
it's a nice tie into our history and our legacy,
which you obviously see in our logo. So shout out

(56:24):
to them, really appreciate them everybody coming out. Also want
to announce that in Team Starts nineteen thirty two news
that the new teams to advantage mobile app has been launched,
and make sure that you open it up, you re
register and there's going to be a couple you have

(56:45):
to wait for. I believe you got to put a
couple of things in and make sure it's okay. And
also to get your notifications. Mark what do you have
to do on the notifications? Because I noticed everybody that's
reloaded the new app. And by the way, the new
app is phenomenal. It looks really really good. A lot
of the bugs and the glitches we were running into
with the other app provider are going to be gone,
and now we have a system that is going to

(57:08):
be improved and better. And but you do have to
turn on your app notifications. We're noticing that everybody that
reinstalls it or re registers has to make sure you
turn on your notifications. You want to cover that real
quick mark.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
So on on an iPhone, you want to go into
notifications in settings, go down to teams to advantage, and
it will it will say, uh, you know, banner permanent,
not permanent on your screen. But what you want to
go into is allowing it to be in your lock screen.
There's three choices. There's allow. I forget what the other

(57:44):
two choices are, but you want to allow it so
you can see it on.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Your lock screen, all right, And so we only got
one another minute, minute and a half until we get
to the break. So yeah, make sure you you you
you open up your your team sir advantage app, load
it you see. And we really like the new features
when we send out a notification, what how great the
graphics are when you open it up on your phone

(58:07):
and you take a look at it, it's really going
to help as far as getting the word out on
a lot of these specials as well as our partners.

Speaker 7 (58:15):
We've also added another feature on the actual app notifications
if you go into the app notifications within the app
and tap on it. Unlike the old way it was
just a few words. Now the flyers in there, the
weblinks in there. It's almost like a Facebook post.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, it's it's got a lot better bells and whistles
on it. And the cool thing is it's it's less expensive.
It's just hard to sometimes switch these providers once they're
kind of in that particular space. And so here we
are getting to the top of the hour. This is
Randy Corgan and the Worker Power Our KCAA ten fifty AM,

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thirty two broadcast Network. At the other side of the break,
we're going to be joined by Victor Paiez of the
Secretary Treasurer of the American Federation of Government Employees Local
twelve sixty and he's going to be on he's going
to be zooming in, or there's some other program that
we're using here, but you're going to be able to

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Welcome to the Worker Power Hour with Randy Corrigan, a
brand new show about labor and worker issues. The host
of the show is Randy Corgan, Secretary Treasurer and Principal
Office and Leader of Teamsters nineteen thirty two, one of
the largest public sector labor unions on the West Coast,
representing workers in government and non sworn law enforcement personnel.

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Brandy Corgan is a thirty year Teamster who first became
involved in the labor movement by volunteering his time as
an organizer with the Teamsters Union at the age of
twenty one. Since then, he's helped thousands organized, mobilize, and
achieved bargaining rights. He accomplished this by spending countless hours
with brave men and women all over Southern California in
their living rooms on the picket line to bring workers

(01:04:25):
towards victory. This is the Worker Power Hour, and now
here's the host of the show, Randy Corgan.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Randy Corgan backed on the Worker Power Hour CACAA ten
fifty AM one to six point five FM and the
Teamster's Local nineteen thirty two broadcast network, Aaron Live from
San Bernardino. Shortly, we're going to be joined by Pictor
excuse me, Victor Piez for the Secretary treasure of AFGE
Local twelve sixty. I just want to point out some

(01:05:04):
local news real quick before we transition into Victor, and
really appreciate you coming on. For those of you watching
live stream, you can actually see him on the screen
right now, and we'll be getting to you in just
a moment. The last item that I didn't cover in
news on the other side of the hour was the
petition that we have out to change the name of

(01:05:26):
Seacomb Park, which is literally stone's throw away from our building,
right up the street. This Seacomb Park, which was named
after a former mayor, is really shrouded in controversy because
he actually the former mayor was part of a group

(01:05:47):
of people that opposed desegregation and was part of essentially,
you know, some real disgusting behavior when it came to
how how people were treated in the area at Paris
Hill Park, as an example, if you were black or Latino,

(01:06:08):
you couldn't swim in the pool until the day they
were going to clean the pool and all this is
on the record. Ironically, this is one of the cases
regarding desegregation that ultimately impacted the Brown decision and also
the Westminster decision. And this case actually was utilized to

(01:06:35):
secure the positions of those cases that later supported the
Brown decision that obviously everybody is aware of in Alabama.
And so I think it's really really important for us
to make sure that everybody signs this petition that as
a resident in sam Bardino that we renamed this park
and we actually change it. And look, I get it,

(01:06:58):
some people in today's day are like, you know, you
got to leave this alone. Don't do this, don't do that.
We could strongly disagree. I absolutely disagree that you allow
individuals that weren't on the right side of civil rights,
weren't on the right side of women's rights, weren't on
the right side of equal rights, and clearly participating in

(01:07:21):
opposing desegregation, that you allow that name to hover and
especially literally less than a block away from our building.
We're going to actively make sure that the rename of
that park happens, especially now that that park is being
completely rebuilt and there's a ton of investment in the
area being put into it, and so we think it's
really important to make sure we take care of that.

(01:07:43):
So if you haven't, if you're a listener in the
city of sam Maordino and you have not signed the
petition yet, please come into the building here at four
three three North Sierra Away or four to two to
one North er Away in sam Bernardino and make sure
that you sign the petition. Obviously, we have a lot
of petitions out there right now amongst the membership, but

(01:08:04):
you can always come in here and actually sign it.
And with that, I'm going to transition over to our
next guest, Victor. You're the secretary treasurer of AFGE Local
twelve sixty. Boy, have you all been in the news lately.
You're clearly being impacted by a lot of executive orders
that are currently happening right now, and you want to

(01:08:25):
take a few minutes to introduce yourself and thanks for
coming on the Worker Power Hour with Randy Corgan. I
can't hear them in my headphones, just so you know, Sorry, Victor,
let's get some technical difficulties worked out here. Yeah, I

(01:08:51):
can hear you. The problem is is we're not hearing
you in the headphones. And maybe Mark from the other
side of the studio and come over and make sure
we got this working correctly. But what I'm gonna do
is I'm going to talk for a few minutes while
we're figuring out this technical challenge. And I apologize this
is we're in a brand new studio and we've switched

(01:09:11):
over a couple of our our technologies that we're utilizing,
and as soon as we can get it figured out,
we'll make sure that we tie you in so that
everybody can hear you. I was concerned that people couldn't
hear you because I wasn't hearing you come through my
headphones here. And for those of you that aren't paying
attention or maybe living under a rock, clearly, AFGE has
been absolutely hammered by executive order after executive order where

(01:09:34):
collective bargaining has been has been either eliminated or gutted,
or or been pushed into a space where where where
jobs are being slashed and or the specific bargaining rights
are being completely eliminated. And what we've been able to

(01:09:55):
do is get Victor on here, who is the secretary
treasure of AFG Local twelve sixty and to talk about
how these these things are impacting his membership obviously the
jobs in which they do that that protect the community
every single day. Let's try to let's get you to

(01:10:16):
talk a little bit, Victor, see if we've got the
technical issue figured out yet. Yeah, we can't hear you.
I can hear you, but only because I can hear
you in the studio. But what is listeners aren't able
to hear you right now. And so for all you listeners,
I apologize for the technical difficulty here and why it's

(01:10:37):
not connecting. We are gonna figure it out here on
the fly, I promise you somehow, some way, and I'll
I'll yeah, if I can't hear him, that means I
can't hear him. And so what I'll do is is
I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about something else that's in
the in the news real quick that I picked up
until we get this figured out. I was staying tight

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with us, Victor while we get it figured out. So
I got this BuzzFeed article here. I saw it a
couple days ago, and it's twenty things employers don't want
employees to know that we absolutely should know. I was
actually pretty entertained by this in my news feed, and
it really was headlined about talking about unions and the

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importance of unions, and it was great, And it's actually
the top twenty things at least that Buzzfeeds created. One
of them is anytime your employer requires you to do something,
you should be clocked in. You know, obviously in our
union environment, that's a no brainer for us, right Victor,
I know you're just in listen mode until they figure
out this technical challenge. Number two, you're allowed to talk

(01:11:40):
to your co workers about pay. The amount of people
I've run into who think discussing wages is honestly a
crime and absolutely blows my mind. This is obviously the
person who is writing this article and really pointing out
the fact that you can talk about your pay. A
lot of employers try to tell you you can't talk
about your pay. And also number three is just because

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something is written in a company policy does not make
it law or legal. So so true. The reality is
is just because it's in the policy, it does not
mean that it's it's legal to be in there. I
found a lot of policies and policy manuals of employers

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being out of whack with the law and not lined up.
And then also they can actually afford to give everybody
a higher salary typically, but they choose not to. And
most here's another one, yeah, the value of labor. That
employers not recognizing the value of labor. And obviously, once

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workers understand the value of labor, then it really puts
us in a better spot. And then we got to
exercise that You got to exercise that value, You got
to exercise that power. We got to exercise that worker power.
And if you work for a large enough company, they
literally have a department that pays people to make sure
you just unions don't get formed. It's actually the anti

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union portion of the organization. And they pay millions of
dollars every single year in union avoidance when it comes
to anti union, which comes to union busting. And they
don't want you to know what wage theft is. And
again this is a BuzzFeed. BuzzFeed article that came in

(01:13:28):
and I just thought it was really interesting. And you
cannot be fired for jury duty. I thought this one
was really interesting. You can't be fired for jury duty.
Most jury duty summons will actually explicitly state this outright
on the summons itself. Anyone who tells you otherwise is
lying to your face. And they may not say that
we'll fire you for jury duty, but what they'll do

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is try to encourage you and not to not to
participate in it. And also, hey, can you do me?
Is there any way we can just go to music
for a minute and let's listen to music while we
try to figure this out. I think that'd be helpful
to me. This is Randy Corgan and Casey AA ten
fifty A M one O six point five FM and
the Teamsters nineteen thirty two Broadcast Network. This is the

(01:14:12):
Worker Power Hour with Randy Corgan and we're gonna go
to some news while we figure out this technical difficulty
that we're running into to get Victor Fias on the show.

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Are you ready for this?

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I do when you go there, you took me for
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I said, I'll look in standing.

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Another one bust the dust, Another one bust the dust out.
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Speaker 9 (01:16:38):
Busted dust.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Ship.

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When you wait for you can have a man and
bring him bare leave the day. But already he's mad
for you.

Speaker 14 (01:16:59):
As I don't know my own, I'm up.

Speaker 17 (01:17:08):
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and another one god, and another one gon another bad.

Speaker 8 (01:17:20):
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Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
So up.

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thing't be right away, don't stop forget about to do,
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Speaker 9 (01:18:30):
Before yes s it's gone, yes, still it's gone.

Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
I want I think about times and coming.

Speaker 10 (01:18:48):
Ab said you're gone. If your luck was back, just
think what tomorrow will do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
You're letna see if we can't hear you this time
over the No, it's still not coming over the headphones.
Why don't we just have him call in? What number
should he call into? Yeah, all right, we're gonna send

(01:19:44):
you Victor. We're gonna send you the number to call in,
and we're gonna just gonna We're just gonna pipe you
in via the phone. Okay, he's calling right now. Sorry
for the technical difficulties, everybody. This is one of the
great things about live radio is you can't push pause,
hold on and uh and and reset and edit and

(01:20:06):
do all that good stuff. Short of that, we're gonna
get him on the on the phone here pretty soon.
And I mean, I gotta I really feel for AFGE
and a lot of the other unions. You got the
Treasury Union. You have a ton of unions that represent
these federal employees. As a matter of fact, we had
Dennis reared In was his son was in charge of

(01:20:28):
the the Treasury Union for many years. He just recently retired.
And he typically gets he's he's he obviously he's paying
attention to what's going on. So those of you remember Dennis.
Dennis helped us kind of build the organization, and I
just always think about how those unions and those organizations
are being pacted impacted by all of these executive orders

(01:20:51):
right now, and then clearly how those families are being impacted.
I think we got them live now, correct, I think
we have him on the phone. All right, Victor, can
we hear it? Can you hear us? My goodness, Victor,
lets try this again. Can you hear us?

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Yes, I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
All right, there we go. We got you now. All right,
So I guess we start from the top again. That
was a that was a tough ten minutes. My apologies
and no way. So, so, so what's going on? Obviously,
you guys are in the middle of an absolute, absolute firestorm.
You're doing everything you can to hold your ground with

(01:21:34):
this current situation, and we really really sympathize and empathize
with the challenges that are going on for a lot
of the people you represent. What would you like to
start off by talking about, Victor?

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Well, you know, it's a tough moment that we've been in. Obviously,
it's partically a moment that we feared that would be
we would be in once this election concluded. You know,
when it comes to af G and the federal employees

(01:22:09):
in general, and obviously with my local Local twelve sixty
specifically we represented the TSA officers across southern California. You know,
we were we had some dreads and obviously under Trump
administration number one, we had some challenges, but nothing close

(01:22:35):
to what we've seen in these first hundred days. This
time around, they've come out gun to blazing to attack us, right,
and you know, for us here in our local, for
our members specifically at TSA, the big action that took

(01:22:56):
took a hit to us was in early March where
A pretty much repudiated our existing agreement and pretty much
they're not recognizing us at all. So obviously that has
become a big challenge to our members and it's a

(01:23:16):
shocking change in the way of life and the way
it's been at the website.

Speaker 6 (01:23:21):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
But likewise, we we also uh do a lot with
our fellow AFG locals at other agencies because for a
lot of them, they're straight out losing their jobs. It's
not just the bargaining agreements that coming out after their jobs, right,

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and that's a big challenge overall for ag across the board.

Speaker 14 (01:23:47):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
Uh, we're obviously putting a lot of resources into defending
not the bargaining rights, but you know, the jobs people
have and you know, we're talking about all boards of
hundreds of thousands of people by the end of this year,
you know, could be have lost their jobs in the

(01:24:13):
federal government. Right as this government seeks to decrease the
world of government, the services that are provided to the
American public.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
And especially these important jobs, right these important jobs like TSA.
Just this incredible how important the job is, you know,
to protecting are are you know those air traffic and
protecting for you know, screening those getting on airplanes and

(01:24:43):
and you know what an incredibly important job to take
a position that they no longer get represented and to
not even be able to do effects bargaining.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
Yeah, no, no, no, you're right. All that is welled
out from us, and you know, and they seek the
well not to think the day they're doing it across
all of government. They it was not just for us
a TSA. They came after us kind of first. Uh,
you know, for the background of the way that TSA
was created, the government actually got a whole lot of

(01:25:15):
control over and these uh in the matter is you know,
and so what we've build up over the years of
just pulled the way overnight, right, But they they know
they've always been in a position to be able to
do a lot of things a lot more easier to us.
But you know, the shock well not the shocking names.
The thing is, they've gone across the board of all

(01:25:38):
the government, right, and like you mentioned, it's it's a
lot of public tracing positions, a lot of positions that
are important to the safety of our communities, whether you
know it's inspections, you know, me processing plants and like
you mentioned, the security screen at the airports. And you know,

(01:26:03):
truly true, it's been a shocking eye. But I mean
we're we're standing up, we're fighting back. We're not going
to take this down, take this lightly. Right, you know,
we're still you know, the faith of government workers. You know,
it's it's it's challenged, but you know, ultimately it's one

(01:26:26):
we're going to have to take on, right because you know, obviously,
like I mentioned, it's only been one hundred days and
the president still has.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Yeah, it's a lot of damage in a short period
of time. Yeah, yeah, Hey, so why don't we get
everybody familiarized with you. I know we had that little
blip in the beginning here, but why don't you introduce
yourself how you know, you got involved in the movement
and you know kind of what your role is as
in your as a secretary treasure of Local twelve sixty.

(01:26:58):
Let's let's start there if you can.

Speaker 12 (01:27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Well, well, you know, kind of my background starting with
this is, you know, nearly seventeen years ago, enjoying the government,
you know, starting off at TSA. So I came out
of TSA. You know, I'm still at TSA, you know,
so you know I started off, you know, you were

(01:27:23):
seventeen years ago, early in my career, joining TSA, and
this was by introduction to really the labor movement, right uh.
You know, at that time we were without right, without
the ability to collectively bargain. But we were even in

(01:27:44):
a position where we couldn't even have an election to
have a certified you know, as the representative at the
work site. But obviously sooner after, within a few years
of me joining there, we were able to secure that election.

(01:28:04):
It was start off with some limited bargaining rights back
under the Obama administration, and that's where we kind of
started taking off.

Speaker 6 (01:28:16):
And that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
Fight under in two thousand and one, the rights were
wiped away and then they had to be restored correct
as time went on. What year was it restored for
the TSA agents to be represented.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
Yeah, yeah, So that big piece that movement to restore
it was in twenty eleven. Yes, on twenty eleven is
where we started off. And it's been a lot of
incremental improvements over the years, and it really came to
a major fruition a couple of years ago in twenty

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twenty three, where we pretty much gained parody in the
ability of our bargaining right and our wages, and we
were able to get that accomplished in twenty twenty three
the previous presidential administration, and we were able to secure

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the biggest pay raisis in government history, you know, an
average of almost thirty five percent overnight praises for our members.
And then you know, obviously there significant career progression and
career ladders to fall over that right. So that was

(01:29:33):
you know, that was the fast forward from twenty eleven
to kind of twenty twenty three, and you know, now
here we're almost a couple of years later, and you know,
a lot of that has been undone, right and obviously
with the scary thought for our members out there, not
so that our contract has been well, but you know

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is well, what's next on chopping block?

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
You know, given that we see that in the whole
of government has been this push to identify you know,
what's been alleged that waste, fraud and abuse. But you know,
ultimately it's finding any way to cut anything even without

(01:30:19):
a second thought to the repercussions right that it may
have down the line.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Yeah, just as a quick update, apparently if you're listening
on Rumble, you're not able to hear the audio portion
of him talking. You could hear me talking. I have
listeners that are texting me live right now. Again, apologize
for the technical difficulties in the new studio. This is
what happens when you build it up. But now I
really appreciate you sharing that, Victor. You know what people

(01:30:48):
don't realize is there was obviously a lot of fight
over what issues could be bargained too. So clearly twenty
eleven on an age in which bargaining could commence at
some level for the TSA employees. And then as time
went on, it was about obviously winning more and more

(01:31:11):
space to be able to impact more and more issues
around the workers that you represent, and obviously clearly the
work that you did individually within the bargaining unit, and
so so as those things were one as time went
on and you get to twenty twenty three, I think
you marked the best contract that was ever you know,

(01:31:33):
historically ever done. And to now just so quickly have
it completely wiped off the map is quite it's you know,
it's it's it's earth shattering for a lot of people.
And how did that affect their benefit packages and all that,
you know, their their daily life as far as the
way they manage work or process issues and challenges at work.

(01:31:57):
What's it been like? What are the workers telling you
they're experiencing in this space?

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
Well, a lot of the immediate impacts as to this
have been, you know, is the people are our members
are in fear of what the management is coming to attack,
is hey, you better come to work or we're going
to attack well after you and try to push you
out on the basis of you know, you know, a

(01:32:24):
legend of absentee is in or you know, excessiveness and absences,
and that's been a fear factor, you know, because now
you've got people coming into work sick. Uh you know
where you know, maybe they were thought they had the
protections to previously, you know, take care of themselves, take
care of their families.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Yeah, something that simple is when you're ill. You know,
the whole premise is Unfortunately employers sometimes forget this that
you know, when you're ill, you're not going to be
as productive and you want people to be as healthy
as possible when they're at work. And so when you
wipe away the representation level, workers feel as if, even

(01:33:03):
when they're sick and they have sick pay, not to
even utilize the sick pay because they feel that they
may be retaliated against because they're not they're they're not represented.

Speaker 14 (01:33:12):
Correct, correct? Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
I know that's uh, that's right. You know you hit that, Randy,
and you know it's you know it. And it's kind
of scary because remembers our work is very interactive with
the public. You know, we're out there with people and uh,
you know, yeah, I just.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Flew to Pennsylvania, you know, on Sunday and came back
on Tuesday, and obviously, you know you deal with all
the TSA people at the airport and you know, going
through screening and at the gates, and you know clearly
it's a very integral and important part of air travel.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
Yeah, and it's it's a little scary to think, you know,
if you know, something almost may be out there where
you are going to be coming out to work sick.
And you know, just beaw a few years ago during
the heighth of the COVID pandemic. You know, you know this,
these things can spread and unifortuately. You know, ultimately, I

(01:34:15):
don't think we're ever really out of that potential of
you know, some other event happening, right, So, you know,
that's always an immediate concern. And then I think I
was going to move a little shorter term if I think,
as you mentioned, is what are the attacks on our

(01:34:36):
benefits package? You know, there's as they move these proposed
tax cuts, you know, they've identified areas where they need
to cut money in the whole of government and this
obviously impact that TSA as well. It is attacking our
you know, retirement packages, and you know, with trying back

(01:34:58):
on the things that where people were hired on. There
are the people things that were promised, uh, you know
when they came on board. And at the end of
the day, it's going to be a pay cut now
and a pay cut in your retirement if you can
you know, even make it to that point, right, and
you know with some of the other in terms that
there may be elimination of jobs right as they may be,

(01:35:21):
you know, try to move towards a massive conversion of
you know, AI and and those concerns that uh present
themselves separately, right. So so so that's that's that's a
big fear as we move forward.

Speaker 5 (01:35:42):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
Yeah, it's just domination of jobs and reduction, severe reductions
and benefits.

Speaker 14 (01:35:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Where's the legal challenge of this? You know? I actually
during when I did the news, I reported on the
fact that that a federal judge ruled last Friday a
temporary block on the Trump administration for implementing the executive
order you guys prevailed in so kind of like where
I know, there's a bunch of different ones, so.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
You know, yeah, so so so there is a lot
of different litigations and a lot of them are were
AFG and obviously some of the federal unions. Uh, they're
they're all leading these challenges. So yeah, in some areas
they've been kind of enjoying from temporarily proceeding with that,

(01:36:32):
but there are some more hearings to come on you know,
the scope of how far that will apply or not,
and you know, at least specific to my TSA members,
you know, which are my local covers.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
You know we have.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
We're kind of, like I mentioned, because of the nine
the Act that created the TSA, you know, treated a
lot more special. So as of this moment, we're not
covered by those earlier rules. So we're waiting for the
next couple of weeks to hear back that move for
a preliminary injunction on this. So you know, that's where
we're at right now, is waiting to hear on that.

(01:37:13):
As you know, the uh WE brief and the government
sinis their griefs and oppositions to that. So we're kind
of in a waiting stage right now as long as
as we're talking for our TSA members, but AFG in general,
right and some of these executive orders they've there's been

(01:37:34):
some initial successes and still some a lot of waiting.
Then it's unfortunately in some of these things. You know,
where we've been able to strike down this administrations, they
just come back with something new or kind of do
a little refresh to try to get around the rulings

(01:37:56):
and hopefully they feel that they'll be able to comply
and two things right. But you know, it's it's it's
difficult because obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Well I think that I think that's seeing the way
it's being handled by the current administration is you see,
let's say, you know, an executive order comes down, it
makes a particular decision, and then there's pushback on it,
and that pushback turns into kind of a back and
forth versus just kind of recognizing, okay, well the organizations

(01:38:29):
are pushing back, and instead there's there's a relentless battle
to continue to either strip the rights or limit them,
or eliminate the contracts or you know, lay off the employees,
whatever it is. And in this case, we're talking about
literally the elimination of collective bargaining, which is the biggest
in my opinion, it's the biggest. No, no, it's the biggest.

(01:38:51):
It's the biggest red flag out of everything. I don't
know if you saw Sarah Nelson's comments here recently where
she was talking about you know, collective action and workers
withholding their rights. You know, like that's the biggest silver
bullet that we have. I think her quote is that
that collective action is the biggest silver bullet to Trump's

(01:39:14):
agenda right now. And if we sit back and just
allow allow the court administration to rip up union contracts,
you know, we can't just sit back and do it.
We're gonna have to activate workers, build worker power, and
we're going to have to get workers withhold their labor.

(01:39:35):
Where are you guys in on this? I get it
sometimes government employees aren't is aggressive in the space, but
you know, you get to a point where, like if
they strip away your rights. You know, I'm sure you
paid attention to what happened in Utah. My opinion is
when they eliminated collective bargaining rights in Utah and all
the police officers said that Friday, when the governors we're

(01:40:00):
not going to work on Monday, I would guarantee you
that they would figure out a fix by monday.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
But the problem is is we got to get workers
into the space where they are taking control and taking
direct action. What are your thoughts on that? Victor.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Well, I mean, obviously, like you mentioned, you know, especially
as government employees and federal government employees, you know, there's
always that big you know, uh cavear right as you
know for some of us, you know, you know, technically
were like prohibit is specifically prohibit is you know, right
from striking and taking specific collective actions. But I will

(01:40:42):
say I think I can agree with Sarah Nelson, uh
that the collective action ultimately will be what will change,
will leave the oppositions of this we you know, incredibly
stupid actions because I think going back to what we've

(01:41:07):
at least we were seeing with government employees is about
six years ago, you know, there was a month long
government shutdown where you have people reporting to work but
they weren't getting paid on time or they weren't getting
paid until the conclusion of that right. And I think
in that moment, it took collective action, specifically in the

(01:41:31):
transportation sector for it to finally be wrapped up right
by the powers to be, because I don't think they
wanted to be held responsible if people couldn't jump on
a plane safely and or they if they couldn't even
make it off the ground. Right in those distances, it

(01:41:52):
put pressure on you know, compromise in an end to
those that shut all the time. And likewise, I think
it's gonna well.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
It seems like a one way street, like the government
can shut down, but what about the workers shutting it down?
Like I think, I think, why are we waiting for
that point? Like, look, I'm I'm clearly I've been an
organizer for over thirty years and I'm pretty aggressive in
the space, and I think that the more assertive we
get in the labor movement to take a position to

(01:42:26):
withhold our labor, like you know, okay, you're going to
strip away our rights as far as TSA agents will
imagine them not having any TSA agents tomorrow, you know
what I mean? Like, that's that fixes the problem immediately.
You know, people won't be able to fly, they won't
be able to go through the airport, they won't be
able to get screened. The TSA agents have an incredible
amount of power if they utilize it, is is afge. Look,

(01:42:52):
I don't mean to put you on the spot or
try to, you know, create any any animosity here. I
just you know, I'm we're we're you know, I'm the
National director for Amazon right now, and our entire plan
and our entire program is about getting workers to withhold
their labor period, taking direct action and taking a position
that you're going to respect our position, otherwise we're going

(01:43:13):
to withhold our labor and more workers in America have
got to lean into that space and recognize these things
that Sarah was pointing out that myself and others have
pointed out, where where do you feel like? Where do
you feel like that shift is? Because if we're just
going to sit back and allow the President of the
United States to with the signature wipe away collective bargaining,

(01:43:38):
I get it. The job is still there and that's
the whole plan. That's how right to work in corporate
America wins this slow battle is well, you still have
your job tsa employee, but you don't have the same protections.
And so then what happens is people are less likely
to take that direct action because they're like, oh, well,
I still have my job, So you got to wait

(01:43:58):
until somebody fires everybody to do something. Why would we wait?
Why don't we agitate people into the space to take
control of that. What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
Yeah, I will say AFG right, And I think that
I don't want to speak for other government union governmentployee unions,
but obviously I think in general, I think we've you know,
ben slow to react on that piece. We've been reluctant
to do certain things, right, But I think it's the

(01:44:28):
time is now for a change in that. I think
we can look to you know, you know, we see
our brothers and sisters and siblings out there SCIU seven
in La County, right, We see them out there, and
I think we can we need to be able to

(01:44:50):
rely look at that and be able to inspire ourselves
on that and the actions that others are taking. You're right,
because I think there really is not a whole lot
of time left to just to sit back and be
passive about this. You're gonna you're just looking at from

(01:45:14):
a point of.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Yeah, like we can't, yeah, we can't wait like it's
it's you know, look, everybody says this is the most
unprecedented attack on workers' rights and unions that we've seen
clearly in our lifetime. And I would argue, you have
to go back to forty seven, you have to go
back to the Taft Hartley Act. But short of that,

(01:45:36):
there's never been something this sweeping, this aggressive, this this
you know, Corporate America's Project twenty twenty five campaign is
clearly rolling out. So when are we in the labor
movement gonna be basically just taking the position to shut
it down, like shut it down. And if we keep

(01:45:59):
allowing ourselves to fall into the space where Okay, well
I got the job, or it's not that bad, or
you know, they're chiseling away at every edge on us,
and we keep finding a reason not to take the
aggressive position.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
No, no, no, yeah, I definitely agree. I know that,
you know, there's been some you know, but then I
guess I think in the last year that some coordination
that maybe you know, have some action take play down
the road in twenty twenty eight, you know, lining up
Durin contracts and all that. But unfortunately it sounds like

(01:46:40):
we can't even wait till the end, right as me?

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Now, Yeah, yeah, look, you know it's they fired the ANLRB,
they fired workers, they've fired you know, they've eliminated contracts,
they've eliminated collective bargaining. Like at every turn of the
last you know, since in twenty twenty five, there's been

(01:47:04):
more of this, and there's more to come. So let's
assume they stop with what they've already done. Isn't that
enough damage for us to to You know, look, and
I'm a principal officer of a very large organization. I'm
a principal officer of a of a fifteen thousand member
public employee local. I got fifteen thousand public employees and

(01:47:26):
we have private sector employee members as well. That put
our numbers above that. But my point to bringing it
up is I understand that sometimes when you work in government,
people are a little less likely to occupy the space.
But the reality is is that government employees, public employees
did not have the right to collectively bargain until the

(01:47:47):
private sector demanded it in the nineteen fifties and sixties,
and then the private sector demanded it for the public sector.
And now we're just going to kind of sit back
and slowly watch it get chipped away. Absolutely not like
we have to draw the lines in the sand, and
we have to be willing to shut down cities, shut
down institutions, shut down counties, shut down TSA, shut down

(01:48:11):
certain operations. You know, we're gonna be called communists, We're
gonna be called this, We're gonna be called that, We're
gonna be called all kinds of words.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Who cares.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
So what the reality is is if the workers have
the power and the workers withhold their labor, guess what's
gonna happen. We're gonna win. Yeah, we're gonna have a
fight in the middle of it. But you know the
is is this administration gonna even listen to the courts
If the courts said, hey, you need to reinstate these

(01:48:42):
employees and you need to do a B and C.
Is this administration even gonna listen to the courts.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
Yeah, I don't have any whole lot of confidence that
will space in in compliance right by.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
So it's time to shut it down. It's time to
out it down.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
I mean, I'd love to show up at the airport
one day and there'd be no TSA agents and it
would give me out of it, get me out of
having to travel that day. I'd turn right back home,
turn right around and go back home and go guess what, man,
I didn't have to go to wherever you know, b
f E at the end of the day, and I'd
have a good excuse not to show up at a
meeting on the other side of the country.

Speaker 7 (01:49:24):
You can leave your shoes on.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
Yeah yeah, well yeah right, I mean I'm TSA approved,
so it wouldn't matter because there'd be no TSA agent.

Speaker 16 (01:49:33):
Yeah, I will.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
I will definitely say look, we uh we believe you
know this other side, these corporate interests are causing a
lot of disruption, and I think that the day it's
time for the disruptions to come from our side.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
Right Yeah, I don't and I don't mean to put
you on the spot here and put you in a
trick bag at all. I'm just man, Corporate America has
control of this country, and it's time that workers take control,
and workers have control. Workers are just choosing not to
exercise that control for whatever reason, they're choosing not to
exercise that control right now, and it's time it's time

(01:50:14):
we stand up and say, hey, we want some reasonable provisions.
Here is the victor. Is there anything else you want
to cover before we close out this part of the show.

Speaker 4 (01:50:30):
Well, I mean, truly, there's a whole lot of things
that I could touch on, but I think, like you said,
it's time for action, and I definitely want to say
thank you to those also immigrated communities that have been
standing up and saying that, and I think almost willing

(01:50:51):
to that even jump on board. And it's time for
the rest of us to have difficult conversations and one
way or another, you know, we're going to be uncomfortable.
And I think at least if we're going to be uncomfortable,
it should be with an art introl.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Yeah, it's it's and so define uncomfortable. What do you
mean by uncomfortable?

Speaker 4 (01:51:21):
Well, I think it's it's dealing with the fear of
the repercussions, right. Uh, you know, you know, taking taking
the action, right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
Uh, So.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
It's hider you're going to be afraid of losing your
job because you know there's a threat of hey you
can't do that, or you've got the fear of losing
your job anyways. Right, So I think pick one which
is more more principle for you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
Right, Yeah, And I think that's where we are now,
is you know, do you allow the slow bleed, the
slow chip away, or do we wait until you've got
nothing to lose, because now you don't have a job
at all. And that's kind of what I'm getting to
is I'm seeing that real aggressive posture and go. You

(01:52:14):
know it, it's easier if we're being overly aggressive for
us to ratchet back and become reasonable. When the employer
or corporate America is unreasonable, millions lose and we keep
relinquishing that by either depending on a legal process or

(01:52:36):
depending on you know, an elected official or somebody to
save the day. And all that is temporary. What is
permanent is getting workers to have that worker power with
hold their labor at a level in which is going
to force the employer to reckon with whatever the demands
are and whatever we can do here at Teamster's Local

(01:53:00):
nineteen thirty two, we're fully behind helping you any rally,
any any events, any functions, anything you guys need. That's
you know, you want to bring some employees on our
show to talk about how they're being impacted, we absolutely
will do that again. We're we're all in and we're
going to do everything we can to be supportive. Again,

(01:53:23):
victor anything else you want to close out on on
the show. And thanks for coming on the Worker Power Art.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
No, yeah, thank you for having me on again, Randy.
And you know, I think the words I have are
just thank you for those that have been standing by
our side, and I know, thank.

Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
You to.

Speaker 4 (01:53:48):
Your local has already come out to buyer side, you
know some of the actions that we've had since I
definitely appreciate that support.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Well, again, we really, we really empathize with the circumstances,
and we you know, we love the labor movement and
we love what it can do. The power of the
labor movement only lies once workers exercise their power and
their ability, and if we just kind of sit back

(01:54:19):
and let all the systems sort of take control, then
we get whipped around by situations like we're doing right
now or like we're dealing with right now. I'm I'm
always uncomfortable in that space. I always feel like I
need the employer talking to me out of doing something crazy.
And I think that if we're in that are a
discussion we're in, we at least have some level of control.

(01:54:43):
We don't ever have one hundred percent control, But you know,
I and again I don't have all the answers. I'm
not saying I'm an expert, but I just looking at
labor history, I think that's where our most powerful, that's
where we've been the most effective and the most powerful,
and workers have benefited the most is when we've occupied
that space. So we've been joined by Victor Paiez, Secretary

(01:55:07):
Treasurer of the American Federation of Government Employees Local twelve sixty.
For those of you that have been living under a
rock and you're not aware of what's going on, clearly
hundreds of thousands of workers in the government have been fired,
laid off, or collective bargaining rights have been eliminated. An
unprecedented assault on workers' rights, especially when it comes to labor,

(01:55:29):
and you know, we have to do something about it.
I believe what that what we need to do is
we need to exercise worker power by taking direct action
potentially withholding our labor and doing things on a very
large scale, including you know, shutting down tipped operations, shutting
down entities, shutting down cities, government operations. Heck, TSA clearly

(01:55:56):
has the power to shut down the airlines. And so again,
thanks for coming on, Victor, really appreciate it. This is
Randy Corgan and the Worker Power Hour. Thanks for joining us,
and I'm going to close the show here in a
couple of minutes with close the last few minutes up
with music. But again apologize to everybody for having our

(01:56:17):
technical difficulties at the beginning. I think we've kind of
figured them out a little too late. Many of you
probably dropped, and I'm just talking to the abyss. I
know I got a couple of people listening because I'm
asking them if this worked and that worked while they
were working on it in the back. So for those
of you that hung on, really appreciate your patience. This
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it away, Mark.

Speaker 18 (01:57:00):
Me up again, grew up you by me in the club,
gottle full.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
Of boot my man, got what you did you need?

Speaker 18 (01:57:06):
The film balls come, I haven't said saying, and they're
making love, so come give me again the group when
I pull up about twenty see the bend.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
Some joke when I rout twenty two.

Speaker 9 (01:57:16):
So this Gramma in the club robe with dre.

Speaker 18 (01:57:19):
Everybody showed me a little when you sett them play
your grouping up.

Speaker 3 (01:57:23):
Home, meat done, change comes down.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Jeez us see exhibiting.

Speaker 19 (01:57:27):
The cutting mail road, rolling back time.

Speaker 18 (01:57:29):
Movem slept before a player fist being into the future.
Now what would lift mine in the roads and the
lady say, fifty you have they like me?

Speaker 9 (01:57:37):
I want to love me like get a little fat
balance New York.

Speaker 10 (01:57:41):
Show tell your love go.

Speaker 18 (01:57:42):
We're playing the rat.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
Game in the rum buff this man, my money in my.

Speaker 19 (01:57:47):
Mind, got the mill, the building and still in the
ground shows the film mys death filling my floor. I
grew up to put the guy and they ready to
go on here, gotta full of boot my man, got
what you did?

Speaker 9 (01:57:59):
Be phil the balls?

Speaker 18 (01:58:00):
If I'm not having said saint and then making love,
so come give me in the dugs, getting the group,
go find me in the club. Got a full of book, Mama,
know what you did? You need the Philip bars, I'm
not having said same and then making love, so.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Come give me a hug.

Speaker 5 (01:58:15):
The d.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
I'm fell on my shoulders, broke me.

Speaker 8 (01:58:20):
Just know that brought me.

Speaker 18 (01:58:21):
Hold my fancy things, my trick, my cars, my clothes,
my jewels with me.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
I came on it and I ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
Change and you should wait out in your head, open
you back?

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
Did you be happy?

Speaker 18 (01:58:32):
And maybe I'm gonna by the bar tosten to the
good like move out the hood?

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
Are you trying to pull me back?

Speaker 18 (01:58:38):
Guys, you'll get the pumping.

Speaker 9 (01:58:40):
The club to southing them with my.

Speaker 18 (01:58:41):
Eyes to trick mass.

Speaker 19 (01:58:43):
You go to the two four five match to study burnup.

Speaker 18 (01:58:46):
Just ton in about money, homie, I ain't I'm gonna
take you for based on me, because go ahead suit
the gal.

Speaker 8 (01:58:52):
Up in the day.

Speaker 18 (01:58:52):
Then let them make them out the money pad up
and we can go upside.

Speaker 9 (01:58:56):
The head with a bottle of bro Come home.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
We know what we be. Nigger n me in the club.

Speaker 18 (01:59:01):
Got a full of book, mama, I got what you
need you need the philip boss, I'm not having said
tame and then make it love, so come and give
me in the getting up you can find me in
the club. Got a pull of book, mama, I got
what you need you need the philip boss, I'm not
having said same and then make it love, so come
and give me a look getting the UK t.

Speaker 9 (01:59:22):
Go try to act that you'll know when we beat Devo.

Speaker 14 (01:59:25):
We're a Club on con.

Speaker 16 (01:59:26):
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