KCAA: The Worker Power Hour (Wed, 18 Jun, 2025)

KCAA: The Worker Power Hour on Wed, 18 Jun, 2025

Episode Transcript

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In agnews for Magnet West. Talking with Ryan Jacobson, He's
the CEO of the Freslo County Farm Bureau. I asked, Ryan,
are we in crisis mode yet when it comes to
ag in California.

Speaker 7 (00:47):
I look at it from the perspective there's a couple
of things going on. Unfortunately, I think there's a fortunate
and an unfortunate We have God given gifts here in
the valley in California that allow us to do things
that just isn't seen anywhere else throughout the world. We
know that there's a combination of soil, sunshine, water, and
quite bluntly people that have allowed this magical desert here

(01:09):
in the centrality to bloom into the agricultural capital of
the world that we see today. But with all that said,
we are in the midst of California, for you know,
thirty nine million people. We've got Silicon Valley located about
one hundred fifty miles away, and so when you compare
us to some of those multi billion dollar industries, people
are like too easily discount us. We talk so much
about the egg industry, the egg community, but most important,

(01:30):
let's just call it what it is.

Speaker 8 (01:32):
It's food.

Speaker 7 (01:33):
It's what people are eating every single day. And you
look at now that California provides seventy five percent over
seventy five percent of the nation's fruits, over a third
of its vegetables, the majority of its nuts, and on
and on and on. We are such an incredible part
of the nation's plate and we can't forget that. And
I think it's time that we don't talk about just
from the economics number, but we talk about it from
the color, flavors and what you eat on a daily basis.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Now is Ryan Jacobson, the CEO of the Friend County
Farm Bureau, Hey.

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I'm Nick Popagny, the agmeter for Agnetwest.

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Located in the heart of San Bernardino, California, the Teamsters
Local nineteen thirty two Training Center is designed to train
workers for high demand, good paying jobs and various industries
throughout the Inland Empire. If you want a pathway to
a high paying job and the respect that comes with
a union contract, visit nineteen thirty two Training Center dot

(02:58):
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Center dot org.

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You're listening to KCAA, your good neighbor along the way.

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This is CACAA.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Welcome to the Worker Power Hour with Randy Corrigan a
brand new show about labor and worker issues. The host
of the show is Randy Corrigan, Secretary Treasurer and Principal
Office and Leader of Teamsters nineteen thirty two, one of
the largest public sector labor unions on the West Coast,
representing workers in government and non sworn law enforcement personnel.

(03:37):
Randy Corgan is a thirty year Teamster who first became
involved in the labor movement by volunteering his time as
an organizer with the Teamsters Union at the age of
twenty one.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Since then, he's helped.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Thousands organized, mobilize, and achieve bargaining rights. He accomplished this
by spending countless hours with brave men and women all
over Southern California in their living rooms on the picket
line to bring workers towards Victor. This is the Worker
Power Hour, and now here's the host of the show,
Randy Corgan.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Here we are Randy Corgan and the work of Power Hour.
Longtime organizer, first time radio host KCAA ten fifty AM
one O six point five FM and the team starts
nineteen thirty two broadcast networking live from San Bernardino. Boy,
do we have a packed agenda today. Sorry I missed
last week. I wasn't feeling so hot and so I

(04:38):
called in sick to my own radio show. Imagine that.
I just got to tell you that today's today's subjects,
as well as guests, this is going to be jam
packed and exciting to hear. We have a congressman coming on.
We have Jenny who is constantly texting us and listening

(05:00):
live and is involved in paying attention to the live
radio show, and it's great to have her on the show.
So we're gonna be hearing from hearing from her shortly.
We also have our President, the amazing Kathleen Brennan, the
phenomenal and amazing Kathleen Brennan joined joining us today and
we're gonna be talking about hr. Eighty two. We're gonna

(05:23):
be talking about a number of things. Actually, there's some
crazy situation happening in Utah. They're going to be I'm
actually gonna have the principal officer from Local two to
two calling in live at right about two forty five
to talk about what they're dealing with in the state
of Utah. I'll get to that part of the news
here shortly, and then we'll obviously hear from him live,

(05:44):
but as a real quick recap from the last show
that we did, I think that was somewhere around, you know,
two weeks ago. Sometimes these days are getting to me.
We had Tommy Blitch on the principal officer of Teams
Local six thirty one in Las Vegas, and boy was
that fun to talk about, to really talk about like
the history of Vegas, the teamster history of Vegas, all

(06:07):
the cool things that the Teamsters representing Vegas. And it
was a really good, just nice conversation filling everybody in
on kind of like how Vegas was built, and you know,
a lot of those connections and little stories and lots
of compliments regarding Tommy, and I really appreciate Tommy coming
on and participating and sharing the vantage point in the

(06:31):
labor movement from Las Vegas, especially the fact that being
a labor leader in Las Vegas and it being a
right to work state, he's puzzled that a state built
by unions somehow remains right to work. So again, politics
sometimes are very wonky and very strange, as we are
currently witnessing right now, and it's important for us to

(06:52):
know exercise our worker power it's just you know, it's
the name of the show here. We also had Kevin
McCarthy on, who's from Trash Buddies, had some great stories
on the work that they do in the community and
our team Stir Advantage partner. We always love having our
Team Sta Advantage partners on the show and specifically talking
about the cool things that they do in the community
and how they're what they're doing to make their small

(07:13):
business thrive. He gave us a couple really funny stories
on what situations he's running into, and also an appreciation for,
you know, how to keep your trash can clean, something
very simple that you know, we kind of put our
trash cans on the side of the house or whatever
we do, and we don't really pay attention much to it,
but think about Actually I told the story about how

(07:35):
I left chicken in there far too long, and you
know that turns into a nasty situation. So it was
a great show and really really topped it off. I
had a ton of fun having Mike i Ree call in.
He is a metworker works for Metropolitan Water District, and
we got to hear from his father. Everybody asked me,

(07:58):
was that an impersonation. Yeah, it was an impersonation. Let
me let the cat out of the bag. He is
so so good at impersonations. But it's really important to
focus on he called in. He's an ass ME member
who works I think you want to say something Mark here,
I'll give you a second, and i'll give you something
in a minute. But he works in a very important

(08:19):
job where you know, was it nineteen million customers in
southern California depend upon water in southern California coming from
the Colorado River, and he's part of the support apparatus
and infrastructure to make sure that that team is doing
what it's got to do, to make sure that those
pipes are full of water and they're getting two hundred

(08:40):
and fifty miles across the desert. Did you want to
say something, Mark.

Speaker 13 (08:45):
No, I wouldn't be surprised if Mike didn't call back today.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I hope he does, because I hope he's got I
hope he wants to tell us a little bit more
about his job, and then I hope to hear from
maybe somebody else that he's hanging out with today.

Speaker 13 (08:57):
I think it's going to be a special guest.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Great, that'd be great. With that, like to go over
to the live shout outs. We have a ton of them.
Really have a lot of people on this one. Boy,
this is gonna it's gonna take me a bit just
to get through this pretty long list. So we have
Chairman Obama from h VP, Sharmon, what was that? I'm sorry, Sharman,

(09:23):
that's belled all right? Well, my bad. Maria Garcia, office
specialist at Hysperia Sheriff. So I'm sorry, Charman for mispronouncing
your name. At TAD, we have Jason Nugent. We have
Crystal Olds, we have Trish Floras, and we have Ivan Cruz.
Many of you were at the membership meeting last night

(09:44):
at SBCSs. We have John Gamboa. We have Bernadette Guerrero.
We have Stephanie Hancock. We have Natalie Grimmel. We have
Angel Jones, Mike Flores at Coachella, all the way out
in Coachella doing the amazing work in the desert making
sure that everybody actually has water there. They don't work

(10:05):
for the Metropolitan Water District. They work for Coachella Valley
Water District. Or is this city at Coachella? Is that
I'm sorry, that's City of Coachella. I'll do a shout
out maybe for our CVWD people here in a second,
if they're on the list. City of Rancho we have
listening in. We have two Lucy Paul and Johnny. We

(10:26):
have Ashley Moto just had a baby and still listening
to the show right right. Congratulations Ashley, that's awesome. Good
for you. Pomona. We have James Mcanealie, we have Connie Bottini.
We have Susan Loftis and Kirk Garrison. Actually saw all
of them last night at the membership meeting. Shana Sater

(10:47):
saw you too, Lonnie Garcia, Amy Shackelford, George Cruz. We
have Lisa Vasquez from ARAMC Rehab Department, marsh Markeisha from
ARAMC Epic. We have Olivia Gerbara from RMC, Krista Kunter
from ARAMC Nutritional Services, Fontana. We have Andrea Daniel and
Joanna and Andrew. We have from Rauto. We have Thad,

(11:11):
Kim Terry and Freddie Gino Fire. We have Jason Misel
and Tory listening in CFS. We have a shout out
to the entire group. Apparently apparently you're all listening in live.
Thank you very much. Hopefully it's over the loudspeaker and
we're driving the employer crazy courts. We have Laura, Valerie
and Tom good to hear from all of you. Good
to know that you're all listening. Really appreciate you listening

(11:33):
and live and so this month, I mean this week,
we have our labor heroes and labor events supplied by
the one and only Carlos Gonzalez. Again, we appreciate Carlos Gonzalez.
Let's give Carlos Gonzalez a big round of a clause
for always sending me over this stuff and trying to

(11:53):
keep me looking like I know what I'm talking about.
Ferrell Dobbs was a leader from Tea Seamester's Local five
seventy four in Minneapolis. Dobbs, along with other leaders, organized
the drivers and warehousemen into a general strike throughout Minneapolis.
This strike was a huge victory for workers and feral
Dobbs was actually a mentor to the young James R. Haffa.

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Dobbs also ran for President of the United States four times,
and so in labor circles. For those of us who
know labor history well, Dobbs and the work that was
done in the Minnesota area and in the Midwest, sparked
general strikes all over the country where workers really really
took control of their destiny. And we really really appreciate him,

(12:39):
and obviously thank you again Carlos for pointing him out
so that we can identify his contribution from many, many,
many years ago. John L. Lewis John L. Lewis was
an influential leader in the nineteen thirties. He was the
head of the Mine Workers Union and he founded the CIO,
which is the Congress of Industrial Organizations. The CIO organized

(13:02):
thousands of industrial workers. The traditional AFL only wanted to
organize craft unions, and you may recognize AFL CIO as
a combined association now. It used to be separate organizations.
And the AFL only wanted to actually organize craft unions
and left a lot of the industrial workers out, which

(13:24):
is how the CIO was formed. And so John L.
Lewis led miners to organize and gained many benefits through
strikes and negotiations. Matter of fact, the back of our
bus has his quote, which is the future of labor
is the future of America. It's right on the back
of our bus. And so every time it's driving around,

(13:45):
everybody gets to see a famous quote from John L. Lewis,
and an event that is actually in labor. It's one
of the most influential and transformative events, which is the
eighteen ninety two Homestead strike in Pennsylvania and the ensuing
bloody battle instigated by the steel plant's management, remain a

(14:07):
transformational moment in US history, leaving scars that have never
fully heared even after five generations. The skilled workers at
the steel mills in Homestead were members of the Amalgamated
Association of Iron and Steel Workers, who had bargained exceptionally
good wages and work rules. Homestead's management with millionaire Andrew

(14:29):
Andrew Carnegie, who has propped up let me just say
Carnegie in the whole family's propped up as this great person.
And he was a horrible employer, by the way, a
horrible employer, obviously an extremely wealthy person, ultimately becoming by
exploiting and killing thousands of people. Anyway, Andrew Carnegie, as
the owner, was determined to lower its cost of production

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by breaking the union. After many battles, the steel workers
grew to be one of the strongest industrial unions of
that time. And beyond. And mind you, you know, here
we are one hundred years later, and here in San Maardino,
there's a Carnegie Street where they're paying homage to Carnegie,
but I don't see a street named after John L. Lewis, right,
And so here here we live in a society that

(15:16):
constantly props up individuals that you know, in a lot
of ways hurt a lot of people, and but we
fail to mention individuals like John Elewis. But guess what,
that's why we have this show. We have this show
so that we can actually get the get the message
out and and bring a positive image and bring make

(15:36):
sure that our members and the general public alike hear
all these cool things and also recognize some of these
very important moments. And so, you know, hats off to
and men. We really got to think back to how
difficult that could have had to have been for people
in eighteen ninety two during that strike, for them to
do what they did and really battle in a time

(16:00):
when there were no rules to protect him at all.
So really, really really appreciate that generation of people. So
we'll talk about it here in a little bit. I
just want to touch on it. I'm going to have
a I'm going to have Spencer Hogue from Teamster's Local
two to two call in at two forty five, and
he's in the middle of a bunch of stuff right now.

(16:21):
There's actually a rally at the capitol in Utah right now.
And for those of you that don't know, Utah just
passed a bill in the House and it's going through
their Senate and it's still it got to get to
the governor, and it's anticipated to actually pass to completely
outlaw public sector bargaining in in Utah. It'll actually be

(16:45):
the worst public sector bargaining law in the United States,
and it clearly is a step back to pre nineteen
sixty two to where here you see those of you listening,
I hope you listen to the Right to Work show
that we did. If you didn't, you better listen to
the Right to Work show that we did a couple
months back. You also should go to our website and

(17:06):
watch the video on the history of right to work
and right to work is really anchoring down in some
areas and they're trying to seize this moment where corporations
have have have gained control of a lot of parts
of our government and what they're going to be doing
is is using that pathway to pass laws that only

(17:27):
benefit them and hurt working people. So now imagine, imagine
you listening in and and waking up the next day
and all of your rights to collectively bargain are are
wiped away. So we're going to talk a little bit
more about that in about a half hour, and uh,
you know, it's just a reminder that the only way
you can prevent these things from happening is being active,

(17:49):
being involved, paying attention and being part of the solution,
not sitting around and complaining and arguing of Because I'm
going to ask Spencer, what can we do to help you?
They're obviously doing things right now on the ground, and
I know it's a long way away, and some people
asked me last night, let's load up the bus and
go drive there right now. Obviously right Kathleen's like, we

(18:11):
were ready. Everybody wanted to go. And you know, obviously
we're gonna wait to know, you know, to help them
based on what they need, and we'll ask him, you know,
more directly when when we talked to him. So with that,
I have Jenny Hernandez here from the County of San Bernardino,
and we're moving things around on our show a little bit,

(18:33):
trying things to see if if if it works and
how it flows, and you know, Jenny, first of all,
thank you for the work that you do working as
a public employee. Number one. Number two, thank you for
always kind of having a positive influence and you know,
engaging and coming to meetings and participating and emailing us

(18:55):
and texting us when we're live on the show, and
thank you for listening to the show. Why don't you
introduce yourself and tell everybody what you do, Jenny, I'm.

Speaker 14 (19:03):
A supervising public health nurse with the Sammartino County Public
Health Department. As a supervising public health nurse, what I
do is I supervise nurses a case managed tuberculosis. So
a lot of people think that that's all dead and
in the history, it's in the History channel and mummies,

(19:25):
but no, it's real and people are dying of tuberculosis.
Tuberculosis is a disease that's spread in the air for
a person to person, so it is it's very contagious.
We've that we were finding unfortunately in our health care
that we would like more people to have health care,

(19:50):
but that's not happening, and it's probably going to get worse.
So by the time we find them, they're very sick,
usually on their deathbeds, and we're having to manage them.
And by then they've exposed this on airplanes sometimes the
even h embombers. Wow, you know right, yeah, it's it's

(20:15):
it's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
So how long have you worked for the county chain?

Speaker 14 (20:18):
Twenty four years? It started when I was five, that's right.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I was gonna say, you're twenty nine. How did you
do that? I thought I got started young. You got
you started way before I did. So tell us, like,
what are some of the job responsibilities around what you do?
It sounds like a very difficult job. You're supervising and
managing something on a much higher level, and you know

(20:44):
you're obviously dealing with patient care indirectly and directly. Tell
us a little bit more about what your daily function is.

Speaker 14 (20:54):
We'll receive, I oversee, but basically our workflow is that
will receive a case. The case can be either from
one of our local hospitals or it can be from
a report from the Quarantines Center from CDC. So it's
someone who had who's entered the United States, which might

(21:15):
not be happening anymore lately, and they enter through the
CDC Quarantine Center, and the CDC Quarantine center will screen
them either as a refugee si LE or someone who
is a status adjuster or is actually coming in just

(21:36):
as a resident, a new resident to our country. At
that point, they'll screen them for tuberculosis and they'll report
to the local jurisdiction where they're going to be living.
That's when we will receive the report from in the
immigration portion of it, and then we'll do our process

(21:56):
to get them linked up with services to get them
ruled out and started on treatment. But if they are
seen in one of our local hospitals, which we work
either both locally, inter jurisdictionally state we work between states,

(22:17):
and also internationally of course, so we'll get reports of
patients that way also, and what we'll do is we'll
clear them. So before that patient is discharged from the hospital,
we have to approve the approp the discharge into the
community and make sure that we've identified all the contacts
in the home and we've screened them and we can

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we've started the patient on treatment and that they are
all the especially the babies have been screened, and then
they can return back into the community into their home.
At that point, we will kick in and ensure that
we watch them take the medications at in their home
every single day of the week except for weekends, until

(23:02):
they're done. And that's six six months, nine months, twelve months,
eighteen months for multi drug resistance, or twenty four months.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
This is how you keep things from breaking out right,
and this is how you keep it first.

Speaker 14 (23:15):
This is one of the many, many.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Many things that you you prevent from spreading, like wildfire.

Speaker 14 (23:21):
Yes, yes, and TB right now, unfortunately is increasing the
morbidity has the data shows that it has exceeded COVID deaths. Wow,
so yes, that's what we do.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
So sounds like a really really really important job. Thank
you for the work that you do. You like you
like being a teamster?

Speaker 14 (23:43):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Why do you like being a teaster so much?

Speaker 14 (23:46):
Because I got a raise after I switch from out
of the money, I'll bowls down the money.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
So yeah, we uh we anything else you want to
talk about?

Speaker 10 (24:01):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (24:01):
I have your funny story ready?

Speaker 10 (24:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, do you have a funny story.

Speaker 14 (24:06):
I'm prepared.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I'm always prepared, all right, Well, well, first of all,
we've got other nurses that are that are emailing and
texting in saying from Haida or Hawda, Parriot and Rachel
and Dolora saying hi, by the way, and they support you,
so you know, look at live this is a cool
thing about a live show. Anyway, tell us a funny story.

Speaker 14 (24:27):
I hope it's appropriate. Nurses have a quirky sin.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I heard. We've had a couple of them on before.
He's close to the to the drop button.

Speaker 14 (24:34):
So, okay, we received a patient, We went through our
normal workflow, we went out to the home. We for
whatever reason, we're discussing the case with the wife. For
whatever reason, she was the one that was involved in
answering all our questions. I don't remember if it was
there was a language barrier or not. So when we're

(24:54):
going through the whole checklist, or do you did you
get the right meds? Did you pick them up at
the pharmacy where you're discharged? Instructions? Who's in the home.
We're looking around to see if there's any new people
that we didn't identify at that point. The why we
get to the are you following directions? Are you staying home?
Are you staying away from public places? And the wife said,

(25:17):
oh yeah, we're following all the directions. We're doing everything
that we need to do. And he said, oh, well
what are you doing? Oh? We have him set out
outside in the back patio. We have a cot, we
have this plate and this dish, and then we are
showering and with the water hose in the backyard. We said,
oh my god, poor guy. If he doesn't die of TV,

(25:40):
he a rabbit, bat is going to get him, or
he's going to die of West Nile.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
From her bike Bard. Oh boy, So how did that end?

Speaker 14 (25:51):
We re educated and we asked them, well, who gave
you these instructions? It was the hospital, which will remain anonymous.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Okay, Good's that's interesting. Hosey off of the back you know,
I don't know. That's happened to me from time to time.
So bad night out right, And that was.

Speaker 14 (26:09):
Worse than an American mean episode?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Oh so, uh, you know anything else you want to
talk about, Jenny.

Speaker 14 (26:17):
No, let's see. Have any questions for me what we
do there? I can go on and on. It's it's very.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Just briefly, we do have a packed show today. Briefly,
how would you feel if you woke up the next
day and you're your right to bargain was stripped away
by somebody while saying mind you, while they're saying, oh,
this gives actually more workers a better voice by actually
taking away that right, it's crazy to hear their response

(26:45):
to this. We'll get into it a little later. But
how would you feel if you lost your collective bargining rights?

Speaker 14 (26:50):
I'm not sure yet. I'm trying to digest even the concept.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's shocking, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (26:54):
Yeah, we do, we do the service. I'm hoping that
most public employees do the surface the way I do.
You do it from your heart. You do it for
the people. You know that the people you're dealing with
are either immigrants that don't speak your language, they don't
have the resources that you're trying to struggle to get

(27:15):
all of these and now you're part of their group
and struggling for your your benefits in your resources. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yep. So with that, Kathleen, is there anything you'd like
to add? No co hosting for me today, right, No.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm just impressed, Randy. There's so many amazing county employees
throughout throughout the county and I was just talking to Robert.
It's like, we just like teamsters. We have anyone from
airline pilots to zoo keepers.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
And we have zoo keepers in this last and we
do have pilots and we.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Do exactly and it's just it shocks me the amount
of work and what you know, what you guys go
through every single day.

Speaker 10 (27:53):
It's just I just applaud you because.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I know I work with computers and it's a lot
easier to deal with the computer that's acting up and
having to deal with the human being that's sick.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Computer's not going to give you tuberculosis, right right.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
So every time I heard these stories, I just feel
so bad because I feel like I have I have
it easy. So I just appreciate you guys, and I
hope you much.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Thank you for the working jolly appreciate that. Yes, So
anything you want to close on any shout out to
some co workers.

Speaker 14 (28:18):
I did have a shout out last week, but we
missed last week and it was my niece in Costa Rica.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Who is she listening to leave?

Speaker 14 (28:24):
She was listening, going to listen live, So we would
have gone international at that point, but.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
We are actually international as a matter of fact, we
have a small little group of people from France that
are listening in. I'm not quite sure who they are.
Ain't that right, Robert? We have thirty one people from
France that last time we looked at the numbers, thirty
one people from France. That's kind of you know, I'm like,
very cool. All right, I'm not sure how that's connected,
but hey, you know, I'll take it right. Yeah, so

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we are international.

Speaker 14 (28:50):
I do want to send a shout out to the
group that we have. It's a small but mighty group.
It's only four case managers for the whole county of
Salmon Ardy.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
No wow wow. And if you know Fingus County in
the cut, that's right.

Speaker 14 (29:04):
We extend all the way out to Needles and sometimes
even Irp, which you have to go into Arizona and
come back around.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, there isn't. There is a town called Ierp in
Sanbridino County for those who don't know, it's about it's
about sixty seventy miles south of Needles, right along the
Colorado River.

Speaker 14 (29:21):
Yes, yeah, yeah, so man, all right, well you guys.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Thanks again for coming in. I'm going to take a
short break here in a minute. This is Randy Corgan
and the Worker Power Hour. Jenny, You and your department
and everything that your group does to keep our community
safe is very much appreciated by teamsterss nineteen thirty two.
By the community. They don't always show it, but we're
telling you today, and I know we try to show

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it all the time, which is the purpose of this show.
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In the Worker Pour Are Back KAA ten fifty AM
one o six point five FM, we are joined by
a tha partner, Melissa from Escape Brewery, and she is
bearing gifts here. This is a no no. You're not
allowed to bring beer into the studio and tease us

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with it, because you know we can't drink it anyway.
Escape Brewery is part of the Teamster Advantage Network and
all of the partners we have, we have nearly actually
over one thousand small businesses part of our network, and
we really appreciate the relationship we have with all of
those small businesses in the Inland Empire because what it
does is it builds a connection between working people, and

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our members are connected to the small businesses, and we
want them to shop with the small businesses and obviously
better to buy your beer than it is a bud
light or something else, right, help, That's what you hope for,
and that's why we want you on the show to
talk about this this amazing brewery that you have that
I hear a lot about. I'm sorry that I haven't
been there yet, but I know people do go there

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because I do hear about it. So you've heard enough
from me, Melissa, Would you like to tell talk tell
us about your brewery and and your business there in
the city of Redlands.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it, and we
very much appreciate the support of all the local people.
It's great to do.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Our members come in and drink a lot of beer.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
They do absolutely.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I mean you have to say hydrated, so there is
ninety eight percent water.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So we've got two locations in Redlands. We are about
to We actually just had our ten year anniversary, so
that's crazy cool, awesome, exciting, congratulations, thank you. We've got
a big party coming up. We have actually have our
tiky Fest coming up February fifteenth. But I'll digress. So
we've been in our downtown location now for three years.
It's a restaurant, full brewery, dog and family friendly. We

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make all of our beer there on premise by hand.
It's all, you know, real crafted handcraft to be there's
no weird additives or anything like that. We say grain
to glass and then at that location. Since we have
a restaurant, we're also lucky enough to have other breweries
on tap, ciders, seltzer, kombuucha wine, so we have a

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really large selection of really fun things there.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's awesome. What's your favorite food dish?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Not necessarily what's your favorite maybe what's a favorite there?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I'd say the most go to thing is our pizza.
We've got a great, beautiful like a big, huge dome
pizza oven with a fire at the back. We make
all our dough fresh every day from Italian flower, so
it's very artisanal. We do a round New York style,
and then we also do a Detroit style that's my favorite.

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So it's gonna be a rectangular crust. The cheese goes
all the way to the edges and it caramelizes, so
you get like that crispy, chewy cheese edge and it's
real light and reflected like a fokosha red.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
You brought to go?

Speaker 13 (35:01):
Can we door to ask some pizza?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Now we're going to shut the show down. We're all
going to.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Should be a field trip next time.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Absolutely, we're gonna do a field trip there.

Speaker 13 (35:11):
Okay, fifteen minutes after the show's.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Over, a good plan. We're open till ten, so we're
open seven days a week. The downtown locations open from
noon to ten during the week, eleven to ten during
the weekends. We also have our original location on that's
the Nevada Street Barrel House. That one has a little
bit shorter hours, but still seven days a week. We
have local food vendors who come in and it's really
cool because then we can, you know, help support our

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local people that ultimately a lot of them end up
becoming a real brick and mortar restaurants. That's been really
cool to watch too.

Speaker 17 (35:41):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, that's that's that's great. That's a great story to tell.
So what's in this bag here?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I brought goodies, so I got a selection. One of
them actually is non alcoholic, so well that's still fun.
Well it has made me hot, so not everybody can
drink all the time, so we made an alternative. We
did a sparkling hot water. So we took Citra hops
and we put it into this regular bubble water, no caffeine,
no sugar, really light and refreshing, no sweetness. So you

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can't always have a bear beacause an escape. But I
brought some of our most popular beers on our lighter
and it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
So do you brew this on the property.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
All of it's done on the property, canned on the property. Everything.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Those are pretty cool looking cans.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, We've got a huge selection of cans. We're always
doing new can artwork. ACB is going to be our
light American logger. So it's like a four percent easy drinking.
It's our answer to like a bud light, but nicer
and artisonal.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Much better looking can Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
You gotta bring the red, white and blue sakura. This
is one of my go tos. This is a white
wheat beer made with terry blossom green tea really light, bright, refreshing, crisp,
really different. This is Irish CrossFit. This is our most
award winning beer. This actually won the San Diego International
Beer Competition Best of Show and Gold, so that was amazing.

(37:08):
So that's a nice Irish.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Real surprise, very very cool.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Mark Wattney's Space Pirate. This is going to be our
full time hazy IPA really nice, full hot flavor and
not too bitter, really good mouth feel, crushable. Everybody asks
about a dark beer, mind that express we actually either
if we don't roast our own coffee beans, because we've
been roasting coffee at home longer than making beer. Some
friends of ours from Resolute Coffee roast that coffee for us.

(37:36):
It's from New Guinea and we impart that into the
oatmeal chocolate stout. So it's my favorite breakfast beer.

Speaker 14 (37:43):
I like that.

Speaker 10 (37:44):
That sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
What other cool beers do you?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Gosh, we've got probably twenty more at the brewery. I
just kind of grabbed a four packing around out the door.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
So is that a four pack that comes already packaged
or is that did you you have a package and
put it.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Together so you can build your own four pack or
six pack. You can get a single beer. We do
have them already built if you want all of one kind.
But with so many beers, we realize that sometimes people
want to Yeah, you want to mix the match and
get something for you and something for me. And we
bring out a new beer at least two or three
times a month, so it's really fun to go in
and just try all the new stuff. Or some of

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them are seasonal, so they come back every year and
then people are like, oh my god, it's back and
they have to stock up and it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
That's good.

Speaker 10 (38:27):
Great.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
So how long does the beer last if you buy?
If you buy you know, six pack or twelve pack
or whatever and you sit on it for a bit,
I'm not familiar with.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
So we always say fresh as best. We don't pasteurize
any of our beer not needed. It gets to a
boiling point in I PA, you're going to want to
drink it as soon as possible. As it ages on,
you're going to lose a little bit of that magic
from the hops. Hops are really delicate and they bring
all those different flavor nuances, whether it's citrusy or tropical
or danky on. They're just going to kind of die

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out over time, kind of like spices, they lose their vibrancy.
If you're getting into a dark beer, they have a
lot longer shelf life. So we say, on an ipa,
you really need to drink it sooner than three months,
because after that.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Year it's I was thinking I was gonna hear like
thirty days or three weeks or something.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
We try to drink them as fast as possible, since
it's what we do. We'll be like, oh, you know,
I don't think it's like as perfect as it was.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
So when people stock up, they can stock up for
a pretty good stretch. If it's gonna last.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Like three months, yeah, and especially if you gave it cold.
You know, I compare it to like an apple. You
can leave it on the counter and it is okay,
but it will last a lot longer if you put
it in the fridge. If you go into your blonde
anything other than your hobby beers they're gonna have a longer,
more stable shelf life. We also do a lot of
sour beers that we sour in the kettle much like
you would inoculate a blue cheese, and it gives it

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that tart tanginess. And then we're gonna put a lot
of fruit in that too, so they're gonna fall under
the like sixty to ninety days is the ideal window.
I will admit though, I popped up in a beer
that we brewed a whole year and a half ago,
just because we hold on to beer sometimes to see
how they age, and it was still probably like ninety
eight percent as good as it was, like, I could
almost not even tell that it had changed, and that's

(40:09):
not always going to happen, but it had a really
good shelf life, so I was like, well, it's going
to keep drinking it.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Well, that's what's incredible here. We're getting this lesson. First
of all, great job describing the pizza exactly right, and
then the description of the beer and how long it lasts. Now,
does the dark last a little bit longer?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Dark beer does tend to last longer because it's not
going to be so happy. They're going to usually be
a little bit mouldier and enrich, so they don't seem
to fall off on flavor quite so fast.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
So what's the favorite beer of our teamsters that come?
Because obviously you already established the teamsters, they order a
lot of beer. We got that done out of the way.
They are frequent teaing your establishment over and over again.
But do you know what the most popular beer is?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
So I know the most popular beers overall.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Not for teamsters. I can you make a teamster beer?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
We should? I can take a pretty good guess. So
Redlands we've had since almost the beginning. We did it
for a spring release because everybody loves the orange blossoms
and Redlands, so we got orange blossom extract and put
it in our blonde and that's one of our biggest
selling beers. It's a great go to for people especially
that are like I just want something really light and
refreshing and easy. It's going to be Redlands Nights or
Soakura is when we go into the IPAs we make

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and we sell a lot IPAs, about forty percent of
the market's going to be IPAs, whether they're hazy IPAs
or they're going to be a West Coast IPA. Civil
Disturbance is by far our biggest selling IPA. It's citrusy.
It's really bright and clean, refreshing. It's made with citra
hops like this hot water. It's got notes of lime

(41:42):
just above the lemon notes. And it's not too high alcohol,
so it's a really good go too. So they're probably
drinking Redlands Nights and Civil Disturbance IPA.

Speaker 13 (41:52):
All right, we found Joe Beer Randy Civil Disturbance.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I picked it. I was like, for Civil Disturbance? Can
I order a keg of it?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Absolutely? I shouldn't be the team Oh yeah, we have
five gallon kegs, fifteen gallon kegs. We can do your
sixteen ounce. We got sixty four hours. Oh you throw
around the back of your car right.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Well, anything you want to close on. Really appreciate you
coming in as a teamster advantage partner. Really appreciate you
taking care of our teamsters that come into the location.
What is the discount teamsters get at Escape Brewery?

Speaker 2 (42:28):
I have to look it up. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
We already know the answer. Any question we ask her,
we typically know the answer. So thanks Mark for filling in.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, we we just love our community, and we're really
fortunate to have a lot of community support. You know,
it's a weird economy right now. So everybody who comes
out and keeps their dollar local, as we all know
that that local dollar stays in our community. We employ
over forty people and they all live locally, and it's
so cool to be able to support our local coffee

(42:58):
roasters and all of our local oh yes, low boom
they come in. You know those are Teamsters now, right, Yeah,
So we work a lot with Stell and Resolute Coffee.
So yeah, this is really cool just to have that
tight knit network in Redlands.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
And we're happy to be a part of it, not
just in Redlands, all over the Inland Empire. Like I
said earlier, we have over a thousand small businesses connected
to this network. Really appreciate what you're doing for not
only the small business community, but Teamster families and our
Teamster members that are coming in and recognizing them for
the hard work that they do every day to make
sure that the economy, you know, you know, circulates, make

(43:33):
sure that the city and the community is operating in
a positive way. In addition to making sure that you're
getting your food products and everything else delivered to you know,
better parts of the broader community. Anything you want to
close on before we wrap up this part of the show.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
You know, you can't always get away, but you can
always get an escape.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh I like it. I like it. Look at this
she's killing it all right. Well, Melissa and Escape Brewery
really appreciate you coming on and for all of you
that are listening in and you can get to the
Redlands location Tube locations in Redlands, we are definitely going
to be getting that my wife and I or my
wife by the way of sitting in the studio right here,
I looked over her when I heard this description of

(44:09):
the pizza and was like, how have we missed this?
How has this somehow not fallen on my radar to
go in there? Because I am an absolute sucker for pizza,
and we will be we will be visiting very shortly
and giving you a very good review on this very show.
So I'm actually not going to take a break. Mark.
What I'm gonna try to do is manage this part

(44:30):
of the show with a with a quick transition. I
know we have Spencer on hold, correct, so Spencer gonna
get you in a quick second. I'm gonna prop it
up again. Thanks for our Teamster advantage partner coming in again.
We have a pack show. Go ahead and turn her
mic off, and so I'm going to switch to the
next part of the show, which is I'm gonna have
Spencer Hope come on. He's the principal officer of Teamsters

(44:52):
two to two in Utah and the reason I reached
out to Spencer yesterday, Melissa, thank you very much. I
reached out to Spencer yesterday when I saw the news,
the news of public employee bargaining being essentially eliminated in
the state of Utah. And as always, Spencer is just
an incredible individual representing workers. Him and I have known

(45:15):
each other a very long time, and I always appreciate
his advocacy for working people. Right now, there is, actually,
if I understand, a rally going on at the Capitol
in Utah, and I know Spencer has broken away from
negotiations to jump on this call and kind of get
us up to speed on what is happening. And we're
going to spend the next fifteen minutes. I have a

(45:36):
hard break at the top of the hour, but we're
gonna spend a little bit of time here talking about this, Spencer,
are you there, Can I hear it? Can you hear me?

Speaker 18 (45:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (45:43):
I am Randy.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Thanks for me, Yes, we can. Thanks for calling in.
Really appreciate it, Spencer. What's going on in Utah with
collective bargaining being eliminated.

Speaker 19 (45:53):
So it's crazy in the state where we have the
worst labor laws in the country, or some of the
worst labor laws in they that it's not far enough.
And what we have going on right now in Utah
is it's called House build to sixty seven and it
is a direct attack on unions by the radical right.
They're filling empowered by last year's election results. And you

(46:16):
know this is not just an attack on unions, it's
an attack on our public sermons that have dedicated their
life to the betterment of the communities here in Utah.
I can go through some of the bills low lights
if you'd like, there are many.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, Before you do, I just want to point out,
you know, Utah is a right to work state, correct, Yes,
And so workers already have the right to freeload if
you're in a union environment, and obviously public sector workers
have the right to freeload in a union environment, and
like you said, that's not far enough. They want to

(46:53):
go even further and take a position that pre dates
nineteen sixty two where there's no collect to bargaining for
these very important jobs, and then and then trying to
market it in a way that is somehow better for everybody.
So why don't you feel free to take it over
there and tell us a little bit about.

Speaker 19 (47:14):
Yeah, you're not wrong. And this is modeled up some
legislation that hit Florida a couple of years ago, but
it's even worse. Some of the low lights that this, uh,
this bill.

Speaker 18 (47:26):
Entails.

Speaker 19 (47:27):
Is it straight up prohibits a public employer from recognizing
labor unions as a bargaining agent so they can organize.
They're not eliminating their right to organize, but there is
simply no avenue for a city even if they wanted
to recognize a You.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Incredible, like, go ahead, what what? People don't realize, you know,
they're trying to prop this up as if unions are
this special interest, self serving situation when the reality is
is that bargaining for public employees has allowed these jobs
to become good jobs in these cities, counties, municipalities, as

(48:08):
well as state employees, and that before collective bargaining, nobody
wanted the jobs because they just weren't paying well, nor
were their decent benefits. And so now that we've brought
them up through advocacy, it's, well, let's strip the right
to have collective bargaining and to somehow claim that that's
better for everybody.

Speaker 19 (48:30):
It's absolutely ridiculous. And hearing their arguments on the floor
are it's just laughable how they present this as a
worker friendly bill. It is the furthest thing from the truth.
You know, not only does it prohibit an employer from
recognizing a union as a collective bargaining agent, it prohibits
strictly prohibits them from entering into a collective bargaining agreement

(48:54):
and actually penalizes them with the class be missdemeanor if
they were to ignore or that ignore this piece of
legislation and go ahead and bargain a contract. It actually
criminally penalizes the person and involved with that.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
And it and they have the audacity to say that
that this isn't preventing unions from advocating for workers. This
isn't preventing unions from from doing their job. This isn't
outlying unions, like I mean you, For you to witness
this firsthand has got to be like perplexing to even

(49:32):
hear those words come out of someone's mouth when they're
essentially saying what they're saying, and then turn around and going, oh, yeah,
you can still advocate for everybody, Like what are you
talking about? You just you're you're eliminating the pathway to advocacy. Yeah.

Speaker 19 (49:50):
It even goes, you know, even deeper than that. So
you know those two things aside, which you know are horrible.
It actually prohibits a union from holding a meeting on
public proper, regardless of the purpose. They consider that resource
of the public, and they are banning those activities, so

(50:13):
essentially banning union activity, with the exception of if on
their break they want to talk about a union or
any other similar to like the NLRA, if any other
works the circumstance you can talk about anything else, You
can talk about a union, but the union representatives cannot
hold a meeting on public proper.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
So it's been great to see you and others advocating
right now at the Capitol and in the appropriate space,
just so you know, anything that we can do if
there's phone banking or I know we last night at
our membership meeting, we talked about this and we had
a bunch of people say it's get on the bus
and go to Utah. I was like, well, you know,
we can't be going aimlessly, so let's let's wait on

(50:53):
them to let us know what do do. So we've
got people locked and loaded willing to help you out
because obviously this is a threat to ever body in
the country, clearly a direct hit to you in Utah.
So I don't know if you want to talk about
what you are doing or what you're trying to do,
or what we can do, but we have about six
or seven minutes before I have to go to a
mandatory break at the top of the hour because the

(51:14):
NBC News. But anything we can do or you're currently doing,
you want to lay out, Spencer, and again, really appreciate
right now.

Speaker 19 (51:24):
Yeah, no, I appreciate you having me, and you know
this is important for us to be talking about because yeah,
we may be the low hanging fruit here in Utah,
but the agenda of the far right is every collective
bargaining agreement structure in this country they want to tear down,
and that's private sector, public sector. That's you know, states
like California, states like Idaho, states like Utah. It doesn't matter.

(51:47):
Their goal is to eliminate us, and this is how
they're doing it. They're starting where they think they can
get it done. Last year we beat this back. This year,
it passed the House quickly, and part of the reason
is is the House sponsor was the rules is a
rules chairman, and he threatened everybody that they wouldn't get
a bill out of committee if get it out of

(52:07):
rules unless they supported his bill. So it passed the House.
It's in the Senate committee hearings right now. I have
not heard the status, but I will tell you that
it's inspiring to see the pictures coming out of the
Capitol because that place is packed with not just Teamsters,
but every labor union in the state has people at

(52:27):
the Capitol, and not all of these unions have public sectors.
But they realize the gravity of this bill if it passes,
because this is not where they stop. If they get
this done, they're coming after the private sector next.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's right, and I think you told me yesterday that
they're also the next step is to enshrine right to
work into the State Constitution. Isn't that a bill sitting
there waiting to move on that too as well?

Speaker 19 (52:58):
Yeah, I have not heard it yet. They from that,
but you know they if they can't get this through
the standard, they will pivot immediately with other horrible legislation
and try and ram it through. They are really trying
to push it through quickly. This is the first full
week of our session, so they are wasting no time
to get this bill moving and try and get it past.

Speaker 13 (53:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
The right to Work foundation clearly has been up to
no good for a very long time. And for those
of you listening that haven't heard me say this, I'm
going to say it again. Our website has the ugly
truth of right to work, talks about the origins of
right to work and its racist origins and quite frankly,
it was built to allow people to opt out of
participating in the union because black people did. That is

(53:42):
the absolute fact and truth to your origins of right
to work. Look it up. Feel free to come on
this show and argue with me about it if you
disagree with me. The reality is it's actually got a
disgusting origin and it's horrible, and anybody who wants to
enshrine that in their constitution. For the state should really
be disgusted in what they're doing. On top of the

(54:02):
negative impact for workers themselves when it comes to any
right to work legislation and or enshrining it in the
constitution itself, and so everybody needs to be on their heels,
needs to pay attention. Spencer. Really appreciate you coming on
the show because our members and anybody who's listening to this.
We were actually talking today that we have thirty one

(54:23):
listeners in France that are listening to us on a
regular basis too. But you know, we really want this
purpose of our show is to just bring advocacy, excuse me,
bring awareness to not only what our members are doing,
to our relationship in the community. You may have heard
here briefly the Teamster advantage partner we had on how

(54:43):
impacted they are by all the positive things union workers do,
and you know it's time that we stop taking them
for granted and we have to just exercise our voice
on platforms like this. Really really appreciate you coming on.
Anything else you'd like to say for the last like
four minutes here.

Speaker 19 (55:00):
You know, i'd you know, really just like to say
thank you for having me on. And really, the American
workers should not be a political football. It should not
be you know, we should not be attacking the American
worker as part of our agenda either side. And this
is a blatant attack on the workers of Utah, and
it is just this. The first step part of this

(55:23):
bill is also to restructure the retirement board that has
been under attack for years.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
In years, I saw that the public.

Speaker 19 (55:29):
Sectory retirement has been bilified, and they want to tear
that down.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
To I saw that and imagine all those people that
have you know, worked their entire lives and you know,
built up a certain expectation for retirement that they contributed to,
and then turn around and say, oh, we're going to
strip that and we're going to change it. We're going
to put it somewhere else, because you know, the super
wealthy business, you know, interests in corporate America, the greedy
corporate America. They they want their hands on those tax

(55:55):
dollars and they want to get them incentives, They want
to get them in tax breaks, and they want to
put them in their pockets so they can and strap
themselves to a rocket and flat to Mars versus you know,
making sure that working people in their community are taken
care of.

Speaker 19 (56:09):
Absolutely. You know, it used to be a public servant
was a job that you wanted to get, not just
because you felt good about what you were doing, but
because the benefits were great, and they are trying to
minimize and eliminate those benefits that people have sacrificed wages for.
In most instances, they've sacrificed wages to maintain good health insurance,

(56:31):
to maintain a good retirement. And now that's not good enough.
They want to take that too.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, once again, thanks for coming on the show. Really
appreciate you you explained, and again, Spencer, anything you need,
and also really appreciate the long term friendship and relationship
we've had over many, many years and your continued advocacy
for workers. You're also the Joint Council President of Joint
Council three, which has what seven states, right, eight states?

(56:58):
Seven states, yep, seven states, and and you know you're
hard worker, and really appreciate all the work you're doing
advocating for all those people out there in your region
as well as taking on this huge fight in Utah.
And so with that, I got about a minute left
before I go to break and this is just a
reminder to pay attention and advocate the the Thanks for

(57:22):
coming on. I'm going to cut you off right now
unless you got anything you want to say, Spencer, anything
last night.

Speaker 19 (57:27):
The only thing I want to say is thank you
for your friendship and mentorship over the years. And I
appreciate everything. And we may be deploy some of the
taxis we've talked about here, so I appreciate you, Randy,
and I'll let you go and thanks again.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yep, no problem. Will give us a call, well, let
us know what we need to send me a text, email,
call whatever you need and we're going to be there.
And again this is a reminder that you got to
pay attention. You got to be involved. Don't just sit
on the sidelines and complain. Be active, be involved, Be
much like all of those active union members are in
Utah that are in the capitol right now, basically telling

(58:02):
those legislators, do not take away our collective right to bargain,
or don't take away my neighbor's right to collectively bargain.
Don't attack the individuals in that space, don't don't push
back on them like that. I think it's what We're
trying to build as a camaraderie in this space on
this show where the community and everybody understands that this

(58:24):
is this is a shared responsibility when it comes to
our community and protecting your neighbor, your friend and you're
a fellow union advocate is really important about keeping the
community whole and lifted up. And I got to a
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(58:44):
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Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Welcome to the Worker Power Hour with Randy Corrigan, a
brand new show about labor and worker issues. The host
of the show is Randy Corgan, Secretary Treasurer and Principal
Office and Leader of Teamsters nineteen thirty two, one of
the largest public sector labor unions on the West Coast,
representing workers in government and non sworn law enforcement personnel.

(01:03:47):
Randy Corgan is a thirty year Teamster who first became
involved in the labor movement by volunteering his time as
an organizer with the Teamsters Union at the age of
twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Since then, he's.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Helped thousands organize, mobilized, and achieved bargaining rights. He accomplished
this by spending countless hours with brave men and women
all over Southern California in their living rooms on the
picket line to bring workers towards victory. This is the
Worker Power Hour, and now here's the host of the show,
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Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
We're back. Randy Corgan in the work of Power Hour
KCAA ten fifty AM, one oh six point five FM
and the team Shirt nineteen thirty two Broadcast Networks Live
from San Bernardino. Boy, that was great having Spencer from
Utah and they're talking about how the right to work
battle is center stage there and they're trying to eliminate

(01:04:50):
collective bargaining, trying to eliminate the process of collective bargaining.
I know that we're going to have a congressman on
the show here shortly. I don't the congressman on yet,
and so until we get it, what we're going to
be doing is we also have Kathleen Brennan, our president. Uh,
the amazing and spectacular.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I'm out of hundreds, man, I can't afford this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Take five, So you got it. You got it. So
we're going to be talking about HR eighty two. Some
of you may be asking what is HR eighty two.
If you're in the public sector, you probably know what
HR eighty two is, and I hope you do, because
it's it's the Social Security Fairness Act. And I know, Kathleen,
this is something that we've chased for many years. Absolutely,

(01:05:36):
and we're appreciative of the congressman that's going to come
on here shortly and talk to us, because he was
one of the advocates about this very early on and
has been carrying it. And what is HR eighty two
passing and being signed by President Biden mean to you?
And by the way, it's it was a bipartisan bill. Finally,

(01:05:58):
it should have been passed many many years ago, and
it took a very long time to get there, and
eventually I think people realized how shorthanded or how much
they were short changing working people doing very important jobs.
And so Kathleen is the president of Teamster's Local nineteen
thirty two, and as a public employee and as somebody
who occupies this space on a regular basis, what does

(01:06:21):
HR eighty two mean to you? Before we get the
congressman out, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
It's been a game changer from day one. I don't
know what I was wanting more for county employees here
in San Bernardino, medical retirement or you know, getting rid
of the windfall elimination, but it is a game changer.
I've worked with so many people who over the years
have told me I can't retire because my social security
is going to be watered down.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Yeah, the windfall elimination created a decrease in the benefit
and it turns into a situation where it actually prevents them.
It prevents somebody from retiring and they end up having
to work longer. This is this crazy why we would
even have a system like that. And it looks like
we now have Congressman Mark to Connell on the line

(01:07:06):
and connected. And you know, first of all, he's a
Congressman from the thirty ninth district here in California, in
southern California. He is actually your congressman. Is that correct? Absolutely,
We really appreciate him coming on, and we really appreciate
his advocacy on HR eighty two. We also, you know,
he's a very long serving congressman here in southern California,

(01:07:28):
has always been a big supporter of labor. And you
know he's on this pension committee. It's got a much
longer name than that, and we couldn't have It's way
too long for me to repeat here. I'm not that smart,
and so I think it's important for someone like him
to be advocating in that space. And so Mark, thanks
for coming on, and man, thanks for thanks for carrying

(01:07:49):
the torch on HR eighty two. We got a lot
of things to talk about here over the next like
twenty minutes, but thank you very much. And do you
want to introduce yourself to all of our listeners, Well.

Speaker 10 (01:08:01):
Thank you, thank you, Randy Corgan. Uh. I'm Mark Ticano.

Speaker 21 (01:08:05):
I'm the US representative, the member of Congress UH for
the cities of Riverside, Harupa Valley, Marino Valley, and the
city of Paris. And I have a bit of unincorporated
county Riverside County territory.

Speaker 10 (01:08:21):
Uh.

Speaker 21 (01:08:21):
That's over in the kind of Lake Mead area. But
you know, I've been a lifelong a resident of Riverside County.
I was born and raised in Riverside. I've gone to
the local schools here. And I got to say getting
h R eighty two to President Biden's desk in the
final weeks of his administration, I went to the to

(01:08:44):
the signing ceremony. Uh and uh uh it was a
b f D although he didn't use you know, the
full you know their word there, but it.

Speaker 10 (01:08:57):
Is a big deal.

Speaker 21 (01:08:59):
I can tell you I know personally because I was
a twenty four year old twenty four year teacher, you know,
And for the past twelve years and one month I've
been also paying into Social Security, and I was going
to see I was not going to be able to

(01:09:20):
work the thirty years that you need to work in
order to get the full Social Security benefit, as as
I was planning to do that to earn Social Security
credits for another twenty twenty years. And I know that
there are many people who are in my situation that
paid their forty quarters, that worked their forty quarters and

(01:09:41):
paid into Social Security.

Speaker 10 (01:09:44):
That realized that when they retire.

Speaker 21 (01:09:47):
They're going to see a massive cut to their Social
Security benefit. And then what's worse is their spouse, their
surviving spouse may get nothing like my father when my
mom passed on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Expect your advocate see in this space is so appreciated
because as a sitting congressman for so many years, for
you to really take the reins on a subject around
social Security fairness and helping carry HR eighty two really
creates a balance back to working people that have worked
in these really important jobs, and it shows that people

(01:10:20):
in Congress do care. So I really appreciate that amazing
work that you've done in this space and it had
to feel amazing to be back in Washington, d C.
And witness the signing of HR eighty two. That had
to be just a phenomenal feeling for you.

Speaker 10 (01:10:37):
It is a huge, huge, successful.

Speaker 21 (01:10:41):
The satisfaction I feel and the job satisfaction I feel
about really doing something for my constituents is so enormous.
And I got to give a lot of credit to
Abigail Spanberger, who is going to be running for governor
of Virginia, but she she co led a a discharge

(01:11:05):
petition because here's the story. The Republican powers that be,
the Republican Speaker was not going to allow a vote
on this bill, and usually that's the final that's the
final word on things. But I'll give credit to your
members and to you know, unions like the teamsters, like

(01:11:31):
the teachers, and like the police unions for turning up
the heat because this ended up being a situation where
the people who signed that discharge petition were not just Democrats.
There were also Republicans who who understood it was unfair,
but you know who it was a kind of a

(01:11:52):
weird thing is often there is there are some politics
behind what politicians will pay for pay pay attention to
when some of the more conservative members we're hearing from,
uh from from the police, retired police about the situation.

(01:12:14):
They were realizing, Hey, this is not this is this
is this is basically unfair. So some very conservative members
of Congress also came to the realization that this, this whole
offset and the g p O that these were they
were fundly unfair to Americans. And it is evidence that

(01:12:35):
it's it's very very it's it's a it's a very
it's a very unusual moment. But hopefully it's unusually the
moment in a sense that both sides came together, uh
to get this done. And I do give President Biden
a huge amount of credits. Not real clear to me
that President Trump would asigned this bill. You know, it's

(01:12:56):
like uh uh, but the that isn't made. It still
remains that the Republican leadership in the House was completely
against this, and it was a workaround of getting a
petition of a majority, a vast majority of members of
the House to sign that petition and to bring that

(01:13:18):
bill to the floor. And uh, it was it was
a big deal for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Yeah, once again, thank you for not giving up. And
I mean I've had countless members talking about how much
of a positive impact this has made, and this is
gonna make and this will be making and.

Speaker 10 (01:13:40):
It's it's real money.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
It's real money in their pocket.

Speaker 10 (01:13:45):
It's real money in many cases.

Speaker 21 (01:13:47):
I mean, I don't know what you're the member who's
on with me, how much of a difference it made.
But you know, if it's like one, you know you're
you're losing two thirds of your sales security. Yeah, that
ends up being in a couple of fifteen hundred bucks
a month for a lot of people, right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Twelve stantial amount of money.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah, and I worked all those units. That was the
most frustrating part. I didn't know until my first day
of orientation at the county. It was during that orientation
that they talked about it. I said, wait, wait, what's
this windfall elimination? And then come to find out, now
that you know, COVID happened, my wife was disabled and
now we get her Social Security benefit. If she would
have died, I would not have gotten that check anymore.

(01:14:29):
We have a mortgage, we have you know, we have
a life, and I would have been impacted not only
with the windfall elimination, but then the government pension offset
if something would have happened to her. So I just
can't thank you enough.

Speaker 10 (01:14:39):
Mark, You're welcome.

Speaker 21 (01:14:41):
And that's that's the police, firefighters, county employees. But I
think you know, widowers could be male or female. But
let's face it, the class of people really really screwed

(01:15:01):
by the GPO the pension offset were women.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Women Statistically proven, yes.

Speaker 21 (01:15:11):
Absolutely, Yeah, they just have some tragic There were so
many tragic stories. And mindstanding is that the bill does
look back for one year. So that was the dispute
was how some people felt we should make people whole
for many more years that they weren't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
At the country. Yeah, it's good just getting it going forward.
Any retro activity is a bonus. Just going forward is
really the most important part of it. I know that
people feel, you know, they feel like they got short change,
and they did clearly. But you know, obviously, the way
budgets work, in the way everything is managed, you you know,

(01:15:53):
sometimes you can't reach back that far. You got to
do things on a go forward basis. The idea, the
point is is that it's been wrecked and fixed and
dealt with and and now again the bipartisan effort is important.
It's it was so important for everybody to work hard.
And quite frankly, I think you pointed out this is
you know, this is the worker power hour, and are

(01:16:13):
the term worker power on our billboards and buses and
everything that we're doing is trying to show and explain
to workers in America and the working class that you
have the voice and you have the power. You've got
to you've got to knock on the doors, you've got
to call, you got to engage, and you got to explain,
and you got to put that pressure because it will respond.

(01:16:35):
And this is a perfect example how that how how
how elected leaders responded to that.

Speaker 10 (01:16:43):
Yeah, you know that's also that Sauna.

Speaker 21 (01:16:47):
What I also think this, this this victory means is
that it shows the power of belonging to a union.

Speaker 13 (01:16:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:16:55):
And if there's anybody out there who's like questioning, you know, uh,
whether or not it matters to be a member of
the union. It was unions like the Teamsters, it was
it was like the California Tuesdays Association and the n
e A. It was police police organizations. It was uh,
you know, as people who represent county employees and public employees.

(01:17:19):
These these were very important players, uh in producing this
bipart as a result, it's a remarkable result. And boy,
a victory like this really shows that you can get
the government to do the right thing. And so y'all

(01:17:39):
have got to be patting yourselves on the back. You
got to be like getting more members to join, getting
more members to join and say here, see here, this
is what you get when when you stick together, uh,
and you align behind a priority and a purpose. And
because look it took, it took unions like yours knocking

(01:18:02):
on the doors of members of Congress, both Republicans and
Democrats and making the case to them, I'm persuading them,
and this this is a this is a very very satisfying.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Outcome when it's appropriate for you. Do you have any
legislative goals going forward? Obviously you're a Democrat, you don't.
You're not in the majority. However, you've you obviously have
had to work across the aisle many times over the
over the years when that pendulum swings back and forth.
So you're definitely no rookie too to having to deal with,

(01:18:40):
you know, the situation that is in Washington right now.
And so is there anything you'd like to talk about
that our members and workers are are affected by some
of your legislative goals for the new Congress going forward.

Speaker 21 (01:18:56):
Well, uh, you know, I think, uh, there's a there's
a slew of executive orders, including executive orders that I
think are going to hurt working people, in fact, that
are hostile to working people. I mean, the President just
issued executive orders to fire uh you know, members of

(01:19:18):
the n RB, the National Labor Relations Board, and the EEOC,
And ultimately I think these firings are illegal. But he
also said during the campaign that he was going to
be the king of overtime. You know that they were
He was not gonna he was going to try to
relieve taxation on overtime pay, which is all fine and well,

(01:19:38):
but more important is the fact that overtime pay should
be at the level it ought to be. You know,
there was a time when overtime pay, those who qualify
overtime pay were like the vast majority of the workforce. Uh,

(01:20:01):
you know, the non manager workforce. They were they in
the seventies up into the seventies.

Speaker 10 (01:20:07):
Uh, they had.

Speaker 21 (01:20:09):
Those workers were able to qualify for overtime pay, the
overtime threshold with such that they could qualify. And so
if the threshold is too is too low, that means
that you could be working more than forty hours a
week and you're effectively not going to earn overtime pay.

(01:20:32):
If that threshold is too low, your your salary would
be too high. And obviously, in order to increase take
home pay for more Americans and more people are a community,
especially in California, where you can be earning what used
to be a lot of money but still not able
to buy a house you know, or or or be

(01:20:54):
able to pay your rent.

Speaker 10 (01:20:57):
No, this is a real critical issue.

Speaker 21 (01:20:59):
So I I've always been fighting for stronger overtime pay
to I've authored legislation which would increase the threshold to
like eighty two thousand dollars. And you know President Obama
when he left office set a threshold that was not

(01:21:21):
quite as high, but higher. And then there was a
lawsuit against that overtime pay threshold saying that you know,
the Department of Labor couldn't do that, they didn't have
the authority, And they went to a conservative judge in Texas,
and you know, had the overtime regulations that Obama put out,

(01:21:42):
they had them invalidated and then you know, the Trump
administration that came in in twenty seventeen after the twenty
sixty elections, they did defend the authority. They said, they said,
we don't agree with the judges saying that the Department
of Labor and the Labor Secretary don't have the authority

(01:22:02):
to raise labor overtime pay. But we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're gonna protect that authority. But what they did is
they lowered the Obama threshold and so they effectively left
a lot of workers out of being able to earn
overtime pay. My challenge to to President Trump is, if

(01:22:24):
you're the king of overtime, you should you should get
behind my bill which would set overtime pay eligibility at
eighty two thousand dollars so that people more people would
have the right to overtime pay and could and could
you know, tell their bosses they have the right to

(01:22:46):
own overtime pay. So, you know, I am actually hopeful
that his nominee, you know, Congressman and former congressman the
Members of Oregon, actually does get confirmed because she's she
actually signed onto and supported the the the bill that

(01:23:10):
would what was the name of that bill, it was
the pro Act. She she actually supported the pro Act,
but that may be account against her among Republican senators
that are going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Yeah, they're yeah, they're they're railing. Some are railing against
her because she's also a recommendation from our organization. Our
general president O'Brien obviously is advocating for her to be
confirmed as well. Uh And and you're right, you know,
a pretty good pick. She she's endorsed some things that
would be helpful, especially considering the climate. I want to

(01:23:46):
I want to slide back to something that you said earlier,
which was the termination of Jennifer Abruzzo. And I've been
a union organizer for over thirty years, and I have
witnessed personally many clearly changes in presidents and changes in
the board and changes in general councils as an organizer,

(01:24:07):
and so I've obviously been saturated in this space. And
the last four years, Jennifer Bruzo as the General Council
for the National and Relations Board has been the most
pro worker general counsel to ever be in that position.
And obviously it comes it's difficult to deal with watching

(01:24:27):
that her be terminated, and obviously there's an argument that
not just an argument. Many of us believe she didn't
have the right to be terminated, as you pointed out.
If you want to point out the legal specific structure
of that, we would love to hear it. But my
point is is that in this moment, when clearly working
people are looking for leadership, and working people did elect

(01:24:48):
Trump to office, it's important to recognize why would we
erase a person or fire a person who has been
the best advocate for working pe people. As you see,
thousands of Amazon workers are mobilizing and organizing in mass
and they are dependent upon individuals like Jennifer Abruzzo and

(01:25:10):
the National Liberation's Board to have good policy, good governance
over their future. And and so I don't know if
you've got anything to say on that.

Speaker 21 (01:25:19):
As far as what I do, I do, Randy, So,
the National Labor Relations Board, along with the Employment Equal
Employment Opportunity of Commission, which are both important to workers
right they're both independent agencies. The NLB enforces labor law.

(01:25:39):
The EEOC administors and forces civil rights law at the
workplace to make sure that people aren't discriminated against in
the workplace. The firings that have been done by the
President have left agencies without enough members to conduct business.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
You need correct in stall. That's correct, it's a stall.

Speaker 21 (01:25:57):
So nothing's going to get ruled on by the NLV
or the EOC, and many people's rights are going to
be are going to be abrogated. Now by law, these
agencies are intended to be independent, and their terms of
their membership are directed by Congress. They have fixed terms

(01:26:19):
and according to the law that established the LRB, board
members can be removed only for neglect of duty or malfeasance.
And for another reason, EEOC board members had many years
left on their congressionally directed terms when they were fired.
Now the president is pursuing is purging the federal government

(01:26:40):
of people who do not align ideological with him and
are clearing the way to put his allies and control.
As you said, he also fired the general councils of
both agencies. This was not unexpected, but the intentional stalling
of both agencies heralds. I'm sorry to say, the erosion
of workplace protections against discrimination, and he doesn't really care

(01:27:05):
if the NRB can operate or clarify liberals. The agenda
is to cause confusion and chaos for working people and
for unions and for organizers, and you know, I hope
that a potential secretary of the Rammers will will advise
him differently than the way that many, many, many of

(01:27:29):
other people who surround the president are advising him. This
is a very ill advised.

Speaker 10 (01:27:35):
I think a turn of action for working class people.
That's wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Yeah, and I think that to to wrap this up,
because I think you only got a few more minutes left,
and again we appreciate you coming on the show. The
strategy for corporate America to stall these things out is,
you know, it makes it to where everybody kind of
looks over the fact that these agencies are there to
protect working people and that by watching this stuff happen

(01:28:08):
over the years, I think that it reminds us that
the name of our show, which is the Worker Power Hour,
is that worker power is even more important now where
workers are going to have to exercise their right, exercise
their right to concerted activity, exercise their right to strike,
exercise their right to put pressure on an employer and

(01:28:28):
say hey, you need to protect us in this space
or that space, or on this item or this subject
or these issues. And it's a reminder of how much
we need to we need to depend on that movement
of people. Yes, the policy is important, it's absolutely needed.
The regulatory factors are absolutely should be in place. But
many of us have been around long enough to see

(01:28:49):
it whip back and forth now, and so it's important
for us to us to maintain the longevity of a
good workspace is having worker power. And so there's anything
you'd like to close on, uh, Congressman regarding that subject.

Speaker 21 (01:29:04):
Let me just say I'm an admire from afar of
the organizing work you've done, uh in the warehouses and
UH with folks like with with companies like uh Amazon,
And what's at stake with NRB is is the whole
issue of organizing and and and and recognizing you know,

(01:29:29):
when workers want to exercise their right to organize, and
as you say, this is a very important time for
that organizing to go on. And you know, UH, I
will do my best to advocate in Congress UH for
the workers. But I worry that that that my Republican

(01:29:49):
colleagues are being bought and paid for by some of
the richest in the world, people like Jeff Bezos who
owns Amazon, and you know they're going to they're going
to create a government that will ignore workers in their constituents.
And this firing of the members of the NRB is

(01:30:10):
a is a really ominous sign. And workers, I think,
can make a difference and stand up and say, hey,
you know, our votes helped put you in why are
you doing things that are are directly hostile to us?

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
And that is my goal, That is my hope with
these with this platform and with others, is that the
worker power aspect does exactly what you just said, Congressman
to Connell like that. That is where workers have got
to say, hey, I've voted for you, you need to you
need to think twice about this action or this action
had a negative impact on me or you know so,

(01:30:45):
so thank you very much. Is there anything you'd like
to say in closing, because I think you got to
go right.

Speaker 10 (01:30:50):
I do and just say, look all these executive orders.

Speaker 21 (01:30:53):
I haven't seen in an executive order to to to
not tax tips, to not tex He's doing all sorts
of executive orders which are variant thin ice, But why
not show that you cared about the people that put
you in office. That's what I say, all right, thank you,
thank you for this opportunity. Randy, appreciate it. This time

(01:31:14):
I was able to talk with your members.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Hey, no, thank you again for coming on, and thank
you for your advocacy around HR eighty two, your advocacy
around labor and supporting labor, your future advocacy on the
committee regarding pensions, and all the other good stuff. Obviously
it's a long title there, and we know you're going
to be the perfect person for that space. And thank
you for recognizing that work that we've been doing in

(01:31:36):
these warehouses, because you know that work isn't about me.
That work is about those workers and making a good
work environment so that those could be good working class
jobs to provide for families in the Inland Empire which
we all grew up in. And we want to make
sure that this great community has the best jobs out there.
And with that, can we take it just a quick break?

(01:31:59):
Go to a quick break? Mark, So thanks again, Thanks market.
I was actually talking to the other Mark. This is
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Speaker 22 (01:32:17):
Mark sure, June, you stand in line.

Speaker 16 (01:33:23):
Hole horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Listen, We're back. Randy Corgan in the work of power hour.
Long time organizer, first time radio hosts. Everybody keeps telling
me I'm not gonna be able to say that my longer.
That's right, I say, BS, I'm gonna say that, Untell.

(01:34:04):
Somebody comes on and unplugs me for the microphone. Ten
years from now, if I'm still doing I'm gonna say
a long time organizer, first time radio host. You know why,
because I've been an organizer a lot longer than I've
been a radio good point, So for every year that
I do radio host, I had another year as an
organizer too, So it's gonna be really hard. I will
always have been a much longer time organizer's been a

(01:34:27):
radio host. So so quit telling me I can't say this,
and then I'm gonna give it steroids and I'm gonna
prop it up and try to keep riding it some more.

Speaker 13 (01:34:40):
So every time it stumbles, will shoot it me.

Speaker 16 (01:34:42):
That's right.

Speaker 13 (01:34:43):
Almost had to hit the dut Mutton for me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
You know that was great having Mark Takano on and
having him you know, really, man, you know whether you're
a Democrat or Republican doesn't matter. Like the work done
around Hr. Eighty two and his relentless pursuit for it
based on workers that were impacted, you know, like like
the one that people really overlook is the spouse passes
away and the benefit disappears because of you know what

(01:35:10):
he described, Like all of you in the private sector
are listening in. That's a reality of what happens. You know.
Somehow public employees are villainized in some way that oh
they're you know, they're living high on the hog and
and the reality is is they don't even have a
hog to live on. So you know, we really have
to to to, you know, pay attention to the details

(01:35:31):
in this stuff. And while we were on the show,
we actually had some visitors rolling through here a few
minutes ago. We're doing some work here in the building
as far as some meetings with some people all over
the country, and they were popping their head in looking
at us while we had Takano on. So it's always
fun to see visitors coming in to the live show
as it's going live. I couldn't interrupt the congressman. We're

(01:35:54):
talking about it, but so so Kathleen, how did it
How did it make you feel to have your congressman
who's been advocating on this issue absolutely on the show.
You know, I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
I couldn't be prouder. I am just so proud. Like
I said last night at the end of our membership meeting,
and I meant it, with all the negativity going on
in the world today, I hope this local will be
that becon of light for folks that what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Here, I hope we will be there. We are, y
are that beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
We are And you know, I couldn't be prouder. I
couldn't be proud to have him on, and prouder of
my coworkers who all did what they needed to do,
and they you know, contacted their congressmen and they insisted
that they bring this bill out back out to vote,
because you know, they they pushed this bill every year
for forty years into the House of Ways and Means
as a way to just kill it. And it worked
for forty years. So I just couldn't be proud. I

(01:36:40):
couldn't be proud of him standing by, you know, signed
on that bill every year. I can't even remember how
many times, you know, he was a part of it,
but it's been a long time and just couldn't be
prouder and thanking him personally because it impacts a lot
of our members and we have some very you know,
intense stories behind.

Speaker 6 (01:36:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:37:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
And on a lighter note, apparently I'm sponsoring a keg
for the car show.

Speaker 14 (01:37:05):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
It's going to be the Escape Irish Cross, Irish Cross.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Oh I hear Randy's gonna sponsor a keg for the
car show. And then and then I also someone asked
if they have the wagon wheel pizza at uh, oh
my god at at Escape. The wagon wagon was a
huge pizza at a place somewhere far away, and that
person is taking a nice little dig because Ralph, no,

(01:37:31):
it's actually it's actually Scott. Scott's taking a shot because
he went and he went and bought a bunch of
wagon wheel pizzas when there was only about five or
six of us, and a wagon wheel itself will feed
like twenty and we had pizza coming out of our ears.
For I wish I was there. I could have helped
you out. Let me tell you. Oh it's hilarious anyway,

(01:37:52):
So yeah, oh god, that was that was great. And
you know, I from what I understand, we have Mike
Irie gonna tell us he's gonna call in and talk
a little bit about his job.

Speaker 13 (01:38:03):
Oh he's on the phone.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
Oh right, is he fired up?

Speaker 16 (01:38:08):
Hold on?

Speaker 13 (01:38:08):
Oh boy, are we going to need these those dump
button all of it?

Speaker 14 (01:38:12):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Yeah, let's get let's get Let's get mister Irie back
on the phone. You know again, I hope he's been
listening to the whole whole show and he can introduce
some of this cool dialogue. And you know what I
love about the show, it's you know, we got to
hear what Jenny did you know? We got to hear
from from somebody from Utah talking about something that they're

(01:38:34):
battling legislatively, right, you know, we get to hear, you know,
a congressman come on and talk about the cool work
they've done to help some working people.

Speaker 13 (01:38:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
We had a small business owner come in and talk
about all that cool beer and pizza that they have,
which I'm sure Mike Irie would love for us to
package up and take to him all the way out
there in the middle of the desert. But with that,
I think Mike's gonna come back on the show and
tell us a little bit more about his job.

Speaker 8 (01:38:59):
Mike, you there, Yeah, Randy, how the heck are you?

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
I'm pretty good. You know, you did a really good job.
Had a lot of people, Uh loved to hear from
your dad from pops, Oh.

Speaker 8 (01:39:13):
Dad, Dad didn't come to work today? Is bring your
mom to work day today?

Speaker 14 (01:39:18):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
I bring your mom today? Really goodness?

Speaker 8 (01:39:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now it was right. She got to
see some things. We're working out, some problems out at
the Iron Mountain, pomp plant and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
But well, hopefully, you know, hopefully she made you do
your job right, because you know, that's a really important
job you have, making sure that those those you know,
all the how many gallons do you not even know?
How many gallons you guys are pumping every single day
through those pipes. They give us some statistical things like
like those huge pipes that are that are running up
those hills, you know, to get two hundred and fifty

(01:39:51):
miles from you know, the middle of the desert all
the way to Los Angeles, Like how many gallons are
being I mean, I guess you can't even measure in
gallons you got?

Speaker 8 (01:40:00):
Yeah, no, they're they're measuring and foot acres and and
and so it's it's a much larger scale than gallons
for men.

Speaker 15 (01:40:10):
Up.

Speaker 8 (01:40:10):
Wait, hold on, yes, you don't even know. Mom's got
something to say. He doesn't even know how many foot
acres it takes to supply seven California with its water.
And I'm very disappointed.

Speaker 18 (01:40:29):
In him that he didn't do his studying before he
called in did his joke. Randy, my apologies. I'll keep
it tighter. I'm on this kid. Am On.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Well, you know you're the one who raised him, so
you know you should smack him around a bit right now,
make sure he gives us the proper information.

Speaker 18 (01:40:49):
I agree, but I'm not in favor of child abuse.
Even though he's a grown man. It'd be x and
looks a little bit like anyway. I don't condone violence
or anything like that, but I'll make sense that he's
better prepared for the show for next week. Okay, but

(01:41:10):
he did a great job today. He was painting and
putting in floorboards and nothing really related to the water works.
But if he was a great day, it was bring
your mom to work day. But he didn't give me pizza.
He didn't sponsor a keg nothing like that, Randy, How

(01:41:33):
do I get him to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Well, you gotta kick him in the rear end or something.
I know you don't support, you know, anything like that,
but at some point you're gonna have to get him
in line. Do you how much volume of water moves
through the desert like that? Seeing that he doesn't know,
do you do you know the answer to that?

Speaker 18 (01:41:52):
Well, there was one outlet rupshit it's copa basin that
was pumping out eight hundred and seventy five cubic feet
per second just a couple of days ago, and they
had to tune that down a little bit. Because we're
getting ready to get into the shutdown phase of our

(01:42:12):
annual process where we empty all the canals and the
empty all. I mean they because I don't work here,
I just know a few things. But anyway, Yes, so
we're getting ready to get into the shutdown and we
do all of our maintenance and repairs on all the
equipment of pumps. There's a pump down right now with
the gene facility that they're gonna repair. It's gonna be

(01:42:36):
be beautiful. That all starts in a month, and I
hope that they have another bring your mom to work day.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
It's not like it's a regular pump either. It's this massive,
huge pump that that is moving a massive amount of
water like like, what's that?

Speaker 17 (01:42:54):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
What did you get to see the pump today? And
the pumps or have you ever seen them?

Speaker 18 (01:42:59):
I was doing the residential work with him, But I've
been in the pump plants. I know the guy. He's
down there to turn the rents, to do the electrical
components and reset the relays. But yet every plant has
nine motors, the forty five kzy giant general electric structures
with impellers and giant rides and the balance. It's beautiful, Randy,

(01:43:24):
I gotta maybe I could set up ATUA for you.
We could do a live prodcast.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
I would love me some massive operation like that. I mean,
you're making it sound. These things are huge and it's
a ton of water. It's getting pumped through these pipes
for nineteen million people. It's really important work. You gotta
be proud of your boy.

Speaker 22 (01:43:42):
That's right.

Speaker 18 (01:43:44):
He's okay, he's got a little to learn. I've been
I know a little more than he does. Unfortunately, I
hate to admit it and that might be a form
of abuse from me, but it's okay. He'll learn and
uh maybe catch up to what I know. But yeah,
I'm very proud of him. The work that he did
today was be beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
I'm so glad he doesn't interrupt you either while you're
talking and you're explaining his job.

Speaker 18 (01:44:11):
You know, Oh, I took his phone.

Speaker 8 (01:44:12):
He's in doing the takeable.

Speaker 18 (01:44:14):
He's got to fill out his time card. He's sitting
in the cuticle right now punching buttons. And I'm out
here freezing. I don't even have a scot and and
it's time to go home. Clinton time is four thirty ever,
don't it? And I haven't had a bite to eat
since lunch.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Well, Mama, you gotta get that boy. You gotta get
him squared up. We can't have him starving you like
that out there. So is there anything you're proud about
about your son that that's just great work that he does.

Speaker 18 (01:44:45):
Or well, he's very handsome, he's just a dream to
talk to when he's not computing all the time, and
he's very gifted. We these coppingry skills and and his
customer service is second to none. But did that jud

(01:45:07):
did he didn't know they didn't him being a good boy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Well, can you hunt him down and get him back
on the line so that you know we really love
hearing from you and appreciate it.

Speaker 18 (01:45:15):
Let me walk into his dog fish Mike.

Speaker 8 (01:45:21):
Yeah, Mam, Randy would like to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
She had nothing but good things to say about you, mate,
Like I'm telling you, you know, you got to get
up to speed though you didn't know how much how
much water was rolling through those pipes.

Speaker 8 (01:45:38):
Randy, I I got to get these houses ready for
for the shut for plant for for the shutdown. I
I got thanks to Doc. Mom was a delight to
have the at at the job today. Oh you honey,
But uh you know, I got it. I got I
got time cards to do.

Speaker 18 (01:45:55):
Like I'm I'm.

Speaker 22 (01:45:58):
Question.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Can I ask you one last question? What does a shutdown?
What does that mean? So everybody can understand, Like operationally,
obviously there's water running through this river, you know, it's
going into a lake in the middle of the desert,
and it gets pumps. These pumps are sitting there and
these big pipes and water gets you know, pumped into
southern California. What does a shutdown mean? Everybody's probably listening
on what would you unless you work in the water

(01:46:19):
district or something.

Speaker 8 (01:46:20):
Now, So the shutdown happens annually, and it gives met
one month to shut down all the pumps, do any
necessary repairs, upgrades in the canals, if there's any broken concrete,
they're empty, so that's the time to fix those floodgates.

(01:46:41):
They we have underwater welders in the reservoirs, like, that's
the time to get all that work done. And then
once the shutdown is complete, boom, we fire back up
all the pumps, fill all the canals, and get water
out to soak out.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Well, you know, I got to hand it to you
taking your parents to work and making sure that they
see what you do. You know, maybe at some point
you can take your kid, you know. And we really
appreciate making sure that nineteen million people have water in
southern California. And what do you think of the show? Mike?

Speaker 8 (01:47:14):
So great man, I'm so proud of you, Randy, I
love it.

Speaker 14 (01:47:17):
Good.

Speaker 8 (01:47:17):
Good on you, man, and good to get the word
out there and represent the workers. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
Were you listening when Escape Brewery was on earlier?

Speaker 17 (01:47:29):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:47:30):
Well, you said brewery.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
Yeah, you probably were a little busy. So we had
teamster Advantage partner come on Escape Brewery and apparently, you know,
they were described. She was describing all these different beers
and it's not just I guess you can get a
can there, They actually can it there and you can
grab it and take it. I have great pizza and
all kinds of stuff. So next time you're over in
this neck of the woods, you should go visit that

(01:47:55):
Team Stir Advantage partner and make sure that you test
out that beer and pizza.

Speaker 8 (01:48:00):
I love everything you just said right now, Randy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
Well you'd love it. And you got to go back
to the show and listen to her describe the food
beer because I cannot match how well she described it. It
was pretty incredible. So Mike really appreciate you coming on
and having your mom on and making sure that she
describes your lack of knowledge in certain areas. That was.
That was really fun to hear. Anything you want to
close on before I cut you.

Speaker 8 (01:48:24):
Off, No, no, mom, you have anything. Now, just tell
him to have a wonderful, wonderful eating You just did, mom,
good job. All right, that's it, Randy, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
I got bubba, all right, thanks, thanks, keep that water
flowing through the desert there, mister, I really.

Speaker 8 (01:48:45):
Just not next month, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
That's that's a shutdown month, right, Yeah, Okay, we'll have
to bring him back on when he gets a chance
and and have him explain, because what I'm curious of
this question is when the water shuts down through the
pipes and the canals and all that stuff, and the
shutdown actually happens. I'm assuming what they're doing is they're
working off of the reservoirs and so that what they're

(01:49:08):
doing is they got to fill the reservoirs up. And
then I'm assuming that the time that they're drawing from
the reservoirs is the least amount of draw time in
the system. But you know, you know, maybe later on,
you know, hey, if no one really likes likes him
coming on talking about his job and having others, you know,
and his family explained or who else who, maybe he's

(01:49:30):
going to have a supervisor looking over. So I have
no idea this guy and his impressions are are I mean,
they crack us up. I hope that all of you
listeners and enjoyed it as much as we did here
in the studio hurt.

Speaker 13 (01:49:44):
I can't breathe.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
I couldn't stop.

Speaker 14 (01:49:49):
Oh my gosh, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
Who was your favorite part of that, Mark, Oh, his
mom just taking over the whole conversation. My favorite part
was how come he doesn't interrupt you? I took his phone?

Speaker 14 (01:50:05):
Oh my god, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
I took his phone.

Speaker 13 (01:50:08):
And that guy does that at six in the morning,
like we've rolled out to do something together before, and
he'll roll up and I'm like, I got half a
cup of coffee in me. I ain't ready for anything.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
He's not a morning person by the tops off.

Speaker 13 (01:50:21):
And You're like, okay, Mike is way too early.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
To be around.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
He's always a lot of fun, always like that. Well,
with that, we've got some news I think to report on.
It's it's it's. We touched a little bit on it
with Mark t'canno. The issue regarding the Jennifer Brusso and
others at the n l RB and the e O

(01:50:48):
c B and terminated yesterday morning, and obviously you heard that. That. Look,
my my perspective on this is we have to hold
any administration accountable to protect working people. That is what
unions stand for, and the difficulty in terminating a bruso

(01:51:11):
and dealing with the aftermath of what legally that means
and how that's going to happen is there's going to
be a legal challenge to say you can't do that.
But Mark said it in when he was on Mark
being Mark Tocano, Congressman to Kano said that that then
stalls the process of adjudicating much of these things that

(01:51:34):
Amazon workers are any worker that is under the regulatory
body of the National and Relations Port. And so this
is a big impact and there's a lot to be
dealt with, but it's also a reminder that we cannot
depend on these regulatory bodies for everything. We have to
depend on ourselves as workers. And we're not just going

(01:51:56):
to sit here and be like, oh, man, I'm mad,
I can't believe this person did this and did that,
and we can't be depressed about it and to a
point where we just we don't engage and we don't
do something about it. And so if you voted for
the president, or if you didn't vote for the president,
it's important to call your congress person. It's important to

(01:52:16):
call your senator because Congress does control the Nationally Relations Board.
The Nationally Relations Board actually works for Congress. And the
legal arguments that are happening is that there are certain
entities which are really led by Corporate America, big special
interest groups of Corporate America. They are leading an effort

(01:52:39):
to try to gut regulatory factors. And the Labor Board
is a regulatory factor, and so I know some people
don't think about it like that. They get kind of
caught up into the narrative that big business says around
regulation and they forget that a lot of what that
regulatory stuff is protecting against discrimination issues, protecting against being

(01:53:04):
for your worker rights, protecting your wages and your overtime
and your working conditions and safety, those are regulatory factors.
It's quite frankly, they're the majority of the regulatory factors
are actually what directly impact workers on the job. And
so the effort of Corporate America to capture our government

(01:53:28):
in this way may be celebrated by some, but if
we're working people, we need to be very concerned to
this because whenever a company tells me I'm trying to
become more efficient, I get it. We want a company
to be efficient and profitable and pay people well. Period.
So if your argument is to pay people well at

(01:53:51):
the top of the top of the pay scale, to
be efficient and make sure that you're safe and operate
within the regulatory bodies or factors, then let's talk about
making adjustments to regulatory bodies or the function of it.
But don't do it at the cost of workers. So
I think about these Amazon workers whom Jennifer Bruso and

(01:54:14):
others that were terminated are advocating and actually arguing on
behalf of those workers against Amazon right now. They have
actually filed complaints against Amazon by the hundreds, and they
are pressing Amazon. And again I'm using the Amazon and
this one company as an example because it's so recognizable

(01:54:37):
and that pressure that the National Relations Board is putting
on it. I bet you Jeff Bezos was you know,
hopping and skipping yesterday and today thinking that, oh well great,
well I don't have to deal with you know, I'm
getting some reprieve. Now, maybe that's why he flew down
to mar al Lago and dropped, you know, a buttload

(01:54:59):
of cash on on the inauguration. So the reality is
is we have to be cognizant of how much control
corporate America has because if we get caught up in
their narrative, a lot of times it's for their benefit,
not for workers benefits. Most of the time it is.
As a matter of fact, I have yet to see
a regulatory factor or any rule implemented in Congress over

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the last one hundred plus years that was beneficial to
workers more than it was beneficial to a corporation. I've
yet to see them do it. I've yet to see
them author it, or sponsor or ask a congress person
or a Senator to sponsor it. If I'm wrong, please
point to one that has been put in place that

(01:55:45):
I've missed, And if it is happened, it's very rare.
I don't think it's happened. So it's really important to
talk about this because elections do have consequences, And do
you have anything that you want to say.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
I can sit here and listen to you all day,
and I think all the listeners out there feel the
same way. Randy.

Speaker 14 (01:56:03):
These two hours went by so fast.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
I just appreciate you bringing these things to light. And
at our membership LEEP meeting last night, it was a
gut punch. First, we got the Amazon workers. We got
to talk to you, and they got to speak and
talk to us, and then right afterwards we were notified
about this you know, firing, and it was just a
gut punch and a lot of the members afterwards were
just really worried about these Amazon workers, which is great
to see because we have to start caring about each

(01:56:28):
other again, and maybe these type of things are going
to force us all to come back together. I think
that's part of where this country is at right now,
is because people just stop caring about one another and
hopefully this will force us all to come back together
and start giving, you know, caring about one another again.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
And well, you're right. I think what it is is
we have it all. We have it in us all.
And we have to do is reach in and make
sure that we that we we appreciate that we appreciate
one of other space and we thank people for what
they are doing in a positive way versus kind of
the other stuff. That's right, So thank you for saying that.
Really appreciate the perfecttional backscratching here at it as some

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would say, and you know, it's it's called awareness. And
I'm not going to just talk about doom and gloom
like We're trying to have some fun with the show too,
and we want we want people to hear what workers
do because like in Utah, if you eliminate collective bargaining,
then what are you going to attract for good workers

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in that space when those needs for the community are
at risk there? And so very quickly in Teamster's nineteen
thirty two news, Slow Bloom joins Teamster's nineteen thirty two
union contract. There, the Slow Bloom in Redlands is now Teamsters.
It's a co op in they were originally Augie's Coffee

(01:57:44):
but after workers faced fierce union bussing, they formed their
own sex successful co op where workers have built a
democratic pay structure in a labor empowerment model and they
are Teamsters and they have a Teamster contract. This is
a perfect example of what workers can do and how
they can take control and they actually built their own
coffee shop. Congratulations to them. This is the worker Power Hour,

(01:58:07):
and I remind you that we are building worker power
in the Inland Empire. And as we wrap this two
hours up that flew by with all of our guests,
we really need to pay attention to how do we
build worker power. We talk to our friends, we talk
to our neighbors, we talk to our family, and we
talk about all the positive things that unions do and
that what we can do collectively by working together and
doing collective action and concerned activity to hold employers accountable

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so that we get a fair or shake. And so
this is Randy Corgan and the Worker Power. I am
a longtime organizer, first time radio host. This is KCAA
ten fifty AM one O six point five FM, the
Teamsters nineteen thirty two broadcast network, airing live from Sam
Bernardino signing off, See you next week.

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