Ciara Blume Interview | Bestselling Cozy Fantasy Author on Midlife Creativity, Indie Publishing & Natural Magic. - The Writing Community Chat Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to the Writing Community Chat Show. Hello everybody,
and welcome to the Writing Community Chat Show. We are
back with another great guest for you, and it's Friday
once again, which is always a big bonus for us.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
How has your week been?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Let us know in the comments and I will catch
up with mister Hooley right now and find out how
his week has been.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Chris, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, it's all good. We've had a lot of books
since to us this week, so I'm drowning in books
at the moment, which is always a good thing. Yeah,
some very special books as well.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, we have, We have had a lot of books.
One actually we need to sort of promote this more
on socials. But did one of your books arrive in
an amazing golden package?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh you've got it, You've got it? Yes, amazing. Yeah, Yeah,
how amazing is that? I was shocked when that came
through the post.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah. I mean it's got a little element of being
a bit kinky, so when it was left on my
doors there, I was like, I need to bring that
in as quickly as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, yeah, nice shiny envelope.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Ye, yes it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
So we've had a lot of books. I tweeted one today,
a little chapter one sort of picture and by the way,
that was great for the podcast listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Sorry, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
We will try and put a tweet out or a
post out about that. Yes, there you go, that book.
I had a little picture of that book that's called Wolf.
That's a lot of hinters who we've got coming on
the show very soon. I'm very excited about that. Yeah,
which I've started reading already. But there's lots of books
coming in, which is good, which means there's lots more
guests coming up for you guys. And what's really good

(01:47):
about that is that everybody has a different story. Everybody
has their own sort of writing tips and writing styles
you can learn from, and we get to learn about
this story and their journey, which is what the best
part is.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And you're in the chat. Been a good week. I'm
glad you have had a good week. Hello to you.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Ross and Chris in the chat as well. Please do
get involved and chat to each other in the chat
as well. That's what it's there for.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Always makes me smile. Obviously, we see Anya a lot.
Thank you so much for watching the show. But when
Ross's uncle Ross pops in. There's always a good sign
there's going to be some good conversation in that chat.
I did order a book this week, Agar, which is
suddenly set in Wales.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I don't know if you've ever heard of this quite
an older.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
But please please try and pronounce the that what that says.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I can't. I'm going to say the last Leanelli Trainlenellie train.
It's yeah, well there's no tea there, mate, it's two
l's yeah, neflee train. Yeah, so it's all set in Wales.
That book. I'm into my sort of detective fiction at

(02:59):
the minut It slangy, comedic detective fiction. So yeah, I
picked that one up. And I'm glad you put me
right on the pronunciation of that, because I said Linnelly.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yes, indeed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
In terms of my detective writing this week, Chris, it's
been it's been really bad, and I'm really kind of
you know, when you're really into a story that you're
writing and you want to get it done. It's just
been a chaotic, hectic week with lots of stuff going on,
and I've just been I had one attempt this week
to try and do a bit of writing, and I
went back and did a bit of editing, finishing up

(03:32):
the last chapter, and that's as far as I got.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
So I didn't really get much done.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
So next week I'm definitely going to get on that
on that writing sort of wagon, and this weekend as well.
Ross says, oh, no, am I the weird uncle. Let
Agate with the pronunciation battle for once. Win the pronunciation
battle for once. Yeah, normally I'm messing things up, Uncle Ross.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yes, the reason your uncle Ross mate is because Agate
met a real person in real life who knew him
and he said, oh, no, I know you. And it
turns out the connection was through the writing community chat
show and he was actually related to our uncle Ross,

(04:15):
and I think it was because he was his uncle,
so you'll forever be known as uncle Ross and.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
To us now indeed, he said, yeah, it makes sense,
which is a very strange conversation. When the random man
walked up to me and said I know you, I thought,
where's this going? Yes, it was actually really kind of
kind of nice to have that conversation, and when he
dropped the name Ross Young, I thought, oh, okay, this
kind of makes a bit of sense.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Okay, with that in mind, we're going to get a
guest on.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Because we want to talk to her about her amazing
career and I'm just not getting distracted by the chat.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
There, so let me introduce her.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
And like I said, please do get involved in the
chat and ask questions throughout and of course at the
end of the show, we will definitely have a a
section where you can put more relevant questions in. But
if you want to react to the ongoing conversation, put
the questions in then.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So are you ready, Chris, I'm ready? You ready?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Hey, So tonight, we're thrilled to welcome a guest whose
work is bringing a touch of magic back into the world.
Sierra Bloom is a multi award winning and best selling
author whose Natural Magic series is captivated readers with over
two million page reads and more than one thousand glowing
reviews in just months. A certified California naturalist with a

(05:32):
creative writing degree from Johns Hopkins, Sierra Blend's humor, heart
and enchantment in a cozy fantasy series, reminding us that
wonder isn't just for children, and then it's never too
late to reclaim creativity at midlife. So please welcome to
the show. Sira Bloom. Hello, how are you doing.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Hi, I'm doing really good. I'm thrilled to be here.
I love hearing your accents. It's just such a treat
for me.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh, thank you so much. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
As I mentioned before the show started, for the ones
that watching for the podcasts, I do apologize, I was
instantly taken back by that background ladies and gentlemen, which
is actually real.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
That is stunning.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Well, I'm very fortunate to live here on the coast.
I know you mentioned I am a naturalist. I'm a
certified California naturalist, and I just recently moved into this house,
which has been like a dream. We're renting for a
couple of years here, and I call it the beach
house because it really is literally a beach house. But
I get to see all of the things that I

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write about and that I've studied. I see whales, and
I see dolphins, and when it's more clear, I can
see Catalina Island, you know, in the background in the sunset.
It's kind of a dream.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
And I can see some benches outside that overlook that
amazing scenery. Please tell me you get out there with
your laptop and you write out on that I.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Do go out there and write quite often. I watch
the sunset every night, little firepit going beautiful. It's very inspirational.
And my next door neighbor is also a nonfiction bestselling author,
so when I rented the house, I was like, oh,
that this place has good vibes.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
For amazing Well.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
One of the questions I always ask at the start
the show is what's the kind of environment like where
you live in terms of creating, sorry, connecting with other authors,
And that's instantly the answer to that. So apart from
your neighbor, do you kind of mingle with anyone else
in terms of the writing world.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I do. There's a lot of writers in my area.
And I was like the kid in high school who
sat at the at like a different lunch table every day.
You know, I couldn't pick a group. And I'm kind
of like that here in southern California because I have
friends who are fantasy writers. I have friends who are

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spicy romance writers, thrillers, friends who write sweet Christian romance.
I do sit at every lunch table, but there's so
many writers in the area, and I've been really fortunate
to connect with a lot of them and go to
events with them, and I try and host events when
I can too. I do a big book and cookie

(08:11):
exchange every year. And we also have a free little library.
Do you have little free libraries there as well?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Do we? Chris is moving and I shook my head.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, there's there's some that like people do them, don't
they They post they create like little post pop type
things and they put books in there that could take
and stuff. We've seen a few. I'm pretty sure we
saw on a Harrogate.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, so we I have. We have this thing where
people just put like a box in front of their
house with books. And I had to make mine all
magical and whimsical because I'm by the beach, so mine
is all mermaid themed. But I have a little free
Mermaid library in front of my house, and I love
to put particularly indie authors, like authors I've met and
authors that I know. I love to put their books

(08:56):
in it and do like a little photo shoot.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Any sort of very cool interactions based on the fact
that that so outside of your house.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yes, I do. And people leave the nicest notes. I mean,
so you know, the world is rough, the world is
off all these days, and so this is me trying
to be like magical and whimsical, and people really do
appreciate it. They leave me, you know, the sweetest note
somebody like I'm gonna I might cry. But somebody actually
left me a note last week that said they discovered

(09:26):
the little library and they were like, this is like
finding hope on a corner. Oh that's amazing, and it
was just so sweet.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Ross said this one on his street, and Haleo says,
are you near San Diego?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I had a burger there that rewrote my soul.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I am not far from San Diego. I'm actually doing
a book signing in San Diego tomorrow, So if you
want to share, like where the burger place was, I
like burgers. I'd love to try a burger that will
rewrite my soul.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I love Vegas too, and he says, I love that
the world needs more kindness and whimsy.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I don't get that word.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
What is that whimsy? It's like fun, magical, unexpected, delightful touches.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
That does sound good, yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
So your writing journey has been quite interesting, that the
fact you've gone from your career into writing, and it's
quite open there in your website and everything that's kind
of a midlife transition for you. So can you kind
of let us know what the spark was in the
first place for you to say writing is what is
something I want to do now?

Speaker 4 (10:32):
So I mean, I think I was born a writer.
I can't remember a time in my life that I
wasn't writing. And it was always like, you know, what
I was supposed to do. I was going to grow
up and I was going to be a bestselling novelist.
You know, that was just, you know, like my destiny.
And I went to this very, very prestigious writing program

(10:52):
by JOHNS. Hopkins, which was, like you know, at the
time I was there, one of the top programs in
the country, and I studied under like John Barr and Joyce,
Carol Oates and Edwin Alby and all these very prestigious writers.
And I had I had writing beat out of my soul.
It was like me and a few other writers, some

(11:12):
of whom are very famous now. But you couldn't have
happy endings, you know, you had to be very dark
and twisty and serious and cynical. And that was what
true art was about and what good writing was. And
my professors when I wrote happy endings were like, you know,
you should go into advertising, maybe marketing would be better

(11:34):
for you, and I just I should have stood up
to them, I should have had more confidence. But I
did that. I did go in to marketing and advertising.
I had a long career, but it was never it
was never fulfilling, and I always felt like, but you know,
one of these days, I'm going to write a book,
and that's what I'm meant to do, And so I

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would do things like start a clothing company or you know,
start a tech company and anything but the writing of
the book, because I think when you've had it in
your soul for that long, you're so you become more
and more afraid of failure and it's okay to do
all these other creative things and maybe not succeed at
them because you're not feeling it that one thing that

(12:18):
you like, have always wanted to do and you thought
you were meant to do. And then it was only
during the pandemic that I was like, Okay, okay, it's time.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
What's amazing about that is the fact that you had
the confidence and ability then to create all these other
things yourself, when you know, the real passion was there,
which would have taken as much as that sort of
courage and sort of determination to do. But you could
do it with other things you wouldn't as I guess
as passionate about with on a personal level.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, I think it's sometimes easier though, when the risks
aren't as high, you know, and it's not as close
to your soul. You're like, what do I have to lose?
You know, I would buy. By the time I was
in my you know, early forties, I was a multipreneur.
I had like, done so many different things. I had
been a consulting consultant for many years, you know, so

(13:10):
all these things that I did, and I was fortunate
I was successful at a lot of them, but again
they weren't fulfilling. So you know, something about I think
the pandemic shook us all up, and something about that.
I just was like, you know, sitting in my house,
going I don't like where I live because it wasn't this.

(13:32):
It was a nice house, but I didn't get to
see the beach every day, and I don't like what
I do every day because I was a tech CEO
then still and did not enjoy it at all, And
so I just decided to quit everything and just only
do writing and learn as much as I could.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
So when you ruminate then on an idea for a
novel for so long, and like you said, you described
it as like being attached to your soul, how do
you eventually make that step and that transition into putting
the words on the page and getting the book put together.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, I ruminating, like I always have three or four
book ideas, you know, I never run out of ideas.
If anything, it's the opposite. It's kind of like there's
too much food in the fridge and I will never
eat it all before it's boil. It's frustrating. So I
kind of have a lot of background rumination going on,

(14:29):
and it's more a matter of clearing the time in
the space to let one idea come forward and be
the idea for a time. The books that I'm writing
right now were in my mind for probably a couple
of years before I put pen to paper, and they changed.
And then even and I'm not a panther or a plotter.

(14:52):
I'm a planter. People said, you know, I plot and
then I put everything down and then something totally different
comes out. And oftentimes, like in the case with wonder
Less essentials the book that you have up. Characters will
literally just show up on the page as I'm writing them.
I don't know how this happens, but they'll be fully formed.

(15:12):
They'll be like their bags are packed, They're like reporting
for duty. They have whole personalities and backstories, and I'm like,
where did you come from?

Speaker 3 (15:23):
So sorry, Chris, I was going to say. Ross says,
the writing programs suck the joy out of writing. We've
heard that before, and I've talked about it on the show,
about doing a master's degree and all that type of
stuff and just losing the love for writing. So the
question I'm going to ask, though, is did that program
make you a better writer? In your opinion?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
One hundred? I mean, I you know, I'm pretty cocky
when it comes to craft because of that writing program.
It may have sucked all of the joy out of,
you know, my process and taking the wind down of
my sales, but I still know how to be a writer.
You know, when I sat down and decided, Okay, I'm

(16:05):
going to write some books, I did read some books
on craft. I'm not like, you know, we're learning all
of our lives, but the things that I was learning
about were you know how to format a book, and
you know how to use KDP and how to do marketing.
I wasn't, you know, studying craft when I first started

(16:26):
writing books, and that was a huge advantage. So as
dreadful and painful of a time as it was, having
a degree in creative writing certainly has served me well.
It served me well also, you know, doing a lot
of advertising marketing. I did a lot of freelance writing
as well, and it served me for all of that.

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I know how to show, not tell and all the things.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, I was going to say, with the dream there
of being a bestseller, which is in your mind from
a young age, did you have any sort of idea
that your novels would have such a great reception when
you released them?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Finally, No, I.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Mean honestly, I had it in my head, like so
many especially my age middle age, that you know, you
had to be trad published. And so that was part
of my hold up, because you know, I knew that
I was going to spend a long time writing a book,
and then I was going to have to find an agent,
and then I was going to have to go through
the querying process, and that that was going to take

(17:30):
years in years, and that you know, you have to
write this perfect book before you can even get started.
And it was really only because I had friends who
were indie published, who were enjoying a lot of success,
that I thought, well, you know what, I'm just going
to sit down and give it a try. I'm going
to learn all I can. And so when I pictured,
when I pictured myself as a successful writer, it never

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the movie didn't play out the way that it actually
ended up happening. And I still think, I mean, I
still have that I'd love to be like you know,
in every bookstore and like a successful trat author at
some point or hybrid at this point, I don't want
to give up Indy. I'll never give up Indy.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I mean, what do you think the benefits of being
in the hour in comparison then, because we do know
there is more control there, But do you think there's
there's more to it than that I.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Will control with you? Number one on my list too.
I am a control freak. You know. All the years
that I worked in advertising and marketing and I, you know,
and and I worked as a designer, and I, you know,
could control the look of things and the feel of things.
And the timing of things and the message of things.
That's a lot to give up. When you hand your

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book to somebody else and they're designing the cover and
they're telling you when it's coming out and writing the
marketing messages. You know, that's I don't know that I
could comfortably do that, So that's huge. But also the
creative freedom and the ability to just make your own
time line and you know, change, I don't change genres,

(19:05):
try something new, do something experimental. It's wonderful being in Indeed,
it's great that we can do that, and we can
we can be professionals while doing that.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, I was going to say before we started the show,
we had a brief, brief conversation that I keep coming
back to because you mentioned a little bit about having
a spiritual encounter that inspired you to to sort of
get right in and get going again sort of thing.
So can you tell us a little bit about that
because I'm itching to here.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Well, I'm totally a woo person, you know. Let me
just out myself. I'm very wu I have many magical beliefs.
They've served me well, and I'm right about to give
them up. But for a while there, I had a
podcast and it's still up if you look look for
it's called Supernatural Travel Tales. And I had been traveling

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through Europe with my two daughters for a while and
we my older daughter was constantly making fun of me
because I always thought things were haunted and I always
wanted to go on ghost tours. And we were in
crackout Poland and we stayed at an airbnb that was
extremely haunted, and I knew it was haunted the minute

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I walked in there. I felt a presence. But I
was writing an article and I was on a deadline,
and I just and so mean. I said to my daughters.
I was like, you take this room, knowing they don't
believe in ghosts, you take this room. Look that they're
exactly the same. I'll take the other one. And they
ended up up all night with some kind of a

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presence in the room. It was life changing for my
older daughter, who will never make fun of me ever again.
I mean, like, long story short, there is a sobbing
woman in the room and they were trapped and my
other daughter started mumbling in another language, and chances it
was just bizarre. If you listen to the you can

(21:03):
hear the whole episode on the super Now I'm advertising
my podcast, I'm going to check that out for sure,
But yeah, I then, you know, after having this whole experience,
I went on to interview other people, and my favorite
was people that had no belief in the supernatural whatsoever
until they happened to go on some trip somewhere and

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just have these like completely mind blowing, life changing experiences
that altered them forever. That's my favorite kind of a
story to capture.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
So when you encounter and experience something like that, how
do you then go about like putting that on the page?
I suppose, because obviously if you've had something that just
shatters your world sort of illusion about what reality is
and you know what could potentially exist, how do you
then harness that to bring it to the paid Well.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
I like I harness my beliefs in my experiences in
small ways. It's not like I sit down and I write,
like this is like the whole experience as a story,
like one thing that I've actually been thinking about that
because there's a lot of ghosts in the book that
I'm writing right now, and I've had throughout my life
a kind of recurring experience when spirits appear to me

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when good. It sounds weird when I say that, because
it's funny because I'll say it and I laugh at myself,
and yet I do believe it. But one thing that
they seem to do is I'll be walking in a
shopping mall or down a busy city street or somewhere
where there's people, and I'll look up and I'll see
the person that is haunting me, but it won't be them.

(22:43):
It'll be like their face on somebody else's face. And
if you've ever just been in a crowd and thought
you saw somebody that you know has passed away, and
you'll just you'll just dismiss it, that's what we Oh,
it looked a little like, oh, it's the light, it
was the angle. I must be thinking of them. But
then five minutes later, you'll forget that it happened, and
you'll see that person again. And then you'll see that

(23:06):
person again. By the third time, I know that spirit
is there trying to tell me something. I'm getting goosebuss
every time it happens. I know, like three times in
a row they're trying to tell me something and I
should listen, and I'm just and so I'm putting that
in a book. I'm putting that experience of seeing somebody's

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face on somebody else in a book.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, it's fascinating. I mean, what.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Is there a situation where you see that face on
a different person over and over and you need to
talk to that person.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
I mean, there was in my life with my father
in law who passed away very suddenly and had a
message for me to share, and I had to temper
it because my husband is not the hugest believer. He's
an engineer, extremely logical, but even he at this point
believes me. And this is part of why, because at

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the time, I kept seeing my father in law and
I knew he was trying to send me a message
for my husband. And I said to him, Look, if
you want me to give him a message, you're going
to have to give me something incontrovertible. You're going to
have to tell me something that like I couldn't possibly
know that I can tell him. So he listen to
this message and I said, give me the password to

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your your They were trying to get into his accounts
and his computer, and I said, give me one of
the passwords. And so I still can't believe this happened,
but he but I like, I was looking at something,
and this often happens when I'm shopping. I don't know
why it happens, like in your store and when I'm shopping,
and I looked at a T shirt and it was
like it was like something military and it said troop

(24:52):
on it, and so I'm like, I had the word
troop in my head. And then I had a number,
and I called my husband who was back home, and
I said, you know, it's Troop eighteen seventy five. I
forget what the number was, but like your father told me,
this means something. It might have something to do with
the passwords. And this is proof that I'm really getting
a message from him. And my husband and his mother

(25:14):
both going like, who did you marry? She's crazy. But
it turned out that it was his brother's childhood boy
Scout troop number and it was a combination for all
of their locks, oh my, for their safes. And there's
just like no way that I would know his brother's

(25:37):
you know, when he was eight years old as cub
Scout troop or whatever, and that they'd use that for
their combination. He'd used that for the combination for several
saves and locks. So I kind of freaked myself out
on that one that that happened, and I learned to
just try and stay open because it's happened since, Like,

(26:00):
like now, when I have that feeling and that like message,
and I know people are going to think I'm a
weirdo and laugh at me, I just say it anyway,
because oftentimes it means something to somebody. Yeah, And I
do use that in my books, like especially the book
that I'm working on right now has a lot of
references to ghosts, and.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well we obviously the supernatural element is there, but then
where does magic come in? Why have you got such
a fascination fascination for magic as well?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I just want magic to be real. I mean, I
want everything to make sense, and I want the world
to be abundant, and I kind of have to like
cling to that, particularly when things get dark and there's
so much hate in the world and so much division
in the world. I want that hope. So I like

(26:52):
to believe in magic. I don't know that everything happens
for a reason, but I do think that our thoughts
affect reality. I've just been reading too about like the
new quantum theories. They're discovering that the future can influence
the past. I have weird theories personally about time and
about how things happen in parallel. So I just I

(27:16):
love magic. I love the idea of it. I love superstitions.
I've always been, you know, a student of and a
fan of different symbolism and lore and it's fun nice.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
So everything I've ever read that's had magic in magic
is just complicated the sort of already existing problems. So
what are the benefits of magic then, in your opinion
and as a writer, like, how do you utilize it
to make it something good rather than just something that's
just going to add on to the sort of problems
that we already have.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, in my world, you know, in the natural magic world,
magic is mostly a force of good. My magical system
is simpler than most, it's pretty broad. But there are
complications of magic. Magic used improperly, magic can be twisted.
There's dark magic, and there's synthetic magic, which is like

(28:14):
kind of a little bit like AI actually, where people
try and amalgamate all of the natural magic of the
world and create something synthetic to come close to it,
and it ends up being quite toxic.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Nice ex when writers like create rules and sort of
the way that their world works. Like I'm fascinated by
how they put that sort of thing together in terms
of going, oh, this rule fits there, and then then
we need this rule. And because I kind of did
it myself, and I remember writing, I was like halfway

(28:51):
through and I was like, I really need this thing
to be able to happen. And I was like, you're
writing it. You can you literally, if you want to
bring that thing in, you do, because you can create
the rules in fiction.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah, it's hard. I mean, the danger with magical systems
is you can easily paint yourself into a corner, which
is why mine are pretty broad and pretty simple. I'm
my books take place in the real world, but not
necessarily the world that we live in. You know, it
is the world we live in, but I've purposely left

(29:24):
out cell phones and computers and a lot of things
that are that they're too grounded in the present. You know.
It's sort of like an alternative version of the world
that we live in, but very real and very familiar.
And I don't get into a lot of like lore
and you know, battles and high fantasy type stuff. It's

(29:51):
very light on all of that. It's just accepted that
there's magic in the world, and there's really a system
of basic the forces are abundance versus scarcity.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
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Speaker 2 (30:13):
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Speaker 2 (32:24):
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Speaker 1 (32:25):
So you have You're releasing your third book in the
Natural Magic series, and that is coming out in October?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Is it October first?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
October first? And that's the mag Pi Oracle.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
So could you please tell us all about that and
let everyone know what it's all about.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
So all of my books are standalone in this series,
although they're kind of interconnected. The first one was just
an introduction to the world, and it brought everyone to
the world of Natural Magic. The last one had time
travel and they went all over the place. And this
one is probably the heaviest and the deepest because I

(33:04):
really take on the subject of memory and sort of
the veil between life and death, and there is a
lot of the book takes place in a magical gin
night market that appears in different locations around the world
once a month, always on the Crescent moon, and always

(33:25):
in somewhat of a liminal space somewhere that's a little
bit wo which you know, my travel background and going
to all of these Boo places has served me well
because I'm revisiting some of them in this book. So
it starts out at the Tunnel of Love in the Ukraine,
which is a portion of train tracks that are completely

(33:47):
hidden by a tunnel of birch trees, and the gin
Market opening is there at midnight on the Crescent Moon,
and a character goes into the night market it in
the hopes of reuniting with her dead mother, who has
recently passed away from dementia, and she doesn't know her

(34:08):
mother's last wishes, so she wants to dine with her
mother at the Afterlife Cafe, which exists in the night market,
and she goes to meet her mother, and her mother
still doesn't remember anything anyway. That's how it kicks off,
and it takes place in and out of this night market.

(34:31):
There's dragons in this one. There's you know, a lot
of heavier themes with life and death and where do
your memories go after you've passed away, after nobody remembers
something anymore, and how memory is attached to objects. Another
feature of this night market is that the stalls are

(34:52):
full of items that are all the lost things of
the world. So when something's gone missing, or somebody's forgotten
about something much it shows up in the night market incredible.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Ross says this sounds brilliant after Life of the Wind,
all in capitals and exclamation marks. The first thing to
note is that market is an incredible setting that I
don't think I've ever heard before.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
So where did that come from?

Speaker 4 (35:17):
It just showed up?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I wish that. I mean, I, like I said, I've
traveled a lot and I spent Actually I know where
it came from. I spent a lot of time thrifting.
And thrifting is kind of like my secret sauce for writing.
Whenever I'm stuck on something, I go to a flea
market or like a large thrift store and I just
sort through things, and I swear like maybe it's my

(35:40):
wou side, but like I will just touch something and
get an idea, the answer will come to me. So
I think a lot about Also, you know, my parents
are older. My dad passed away a few years ago.
My mom's you know, hanging in there, but she's she's
not doing great anyway. I think about, you know, all
of the things I've inherited, and you know what happens

(36:04):
to all of these memories, so it's it's very much
on my mind these topics.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, and you obviously mentioned this is the deepest story
in the three of the books, So why do you
think that is.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I kind of think like the last book in a
series is always the most heavy, like the most serious.
It's kind of like you have a you have a
it's still fun. I mean, I have you know porters
that like open you know, Faye porters that open up
portals between places. And I have literary squirrels that are
full of themselves and have book clubs so they can
dress up to match their books. Like I have ridiculous

(36:39):
things in my books that are very fun and funny,
but I still delve into these kind of heavier subjects.
And it makes sense that the third one is kind
of like nearing the end of the series and coming
like coming to the death, you know, coming to the end,
although it probably won't be the I'll probably continue on

(36:59):
at some point.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
That was going to be my question in terms of like, obviously,
if you've got a successful series and you know it's
got good readership behind it, and obviously you're in control
of it as well, Like what is the sort of
decision to go, I'm going to go somewhere else, you know,
rather than stick with it.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
So, yeah, I have a plan I may go on
with this particular series that's very lighthearted, the characters in
wonder Lest Essentials. It focuses on this Spade porter who
can open up portals between between spaces, and it turns
out he learns he can also time travel, and he

(37:38):
partners up with a witch who is like a like
an Indiana Jones archaeologist, you know, arcane artifact hunter. So
the two of them pair up to find something missing.
I think if there is a fourth book in the series,
I'm going to go back to them and send them
back to Alexandria to rescue things from the library in

(37:58):
Alexandria before it burns. Now, I have this idea in
my head. I'll probably do it at some point. But
what I've done in this book, I seeded a character
that is in the Gin Night Market for a series
that I've also had in my head for a very
long time, who's like an ancient Gin and I will
probably I have a multi book idea kind of mapped

(38:21):
out for him, and that one's a little bit darker,
a little bit more serious.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
So, yeah, I know you mentioned that the you know,
the series, it's kind of not thought out already, but
you've got three books there you might add a fourth.
Was always the intention to have a series with this.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Not really? I mean I I did have the idea
of having a series. I just didn't think it would
end up being what it is. And that's that's the
beauty that, like, I feel like my characters take me
on a ride off.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, definitely. I mean we're coming too the sort of
closed in section of the podcast now, and so we've
got like twenty minutes left. So if people want to
send the questions into the chat, obviously, please do that
and we'll ask them during the sort of latter part
of the show. But we have a few staple questions
as well, So I'm going to ask one of those,
and the first is if you could take any character

(39:24):
from fiction and make that character your own, Which character
would you choose and what would you do with.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
This is the question I really had a hard time with.
I feel like I already do that with every character
that I read. You Like, I think that I don't know,
I can't pick just one when I read books, I
tend to rewrite characters and endings in my head. It's

(39:51):
kind of a quirk of mine. I actually have a
really hard time remembering books after I read them because
I rewrite them in my head as I go. I
make the world into what I wanted to be. It's
kind of a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Brilliant, Yeah, it's It is tricky.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
If you could take the ending of anything fictional TV show, movie,
or book and change the ending to anything, what would
that be.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
I have several shows that have irked me with their
endings in different genres, like I'm just going to start
with Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, which was supposed to
have a third season and did not, And I really
didn't like the second season and the way it wrapped up.
And I loved the character of Bart, who was like

(40:39):
this assassin. She was just this like a hologram that
was a random assassin, random assassin, and I can't describe it,
but it was just such a well played part and
I'd love to bring her back.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Isn't it the most rating thing in the world where
you've got a series you're seriously into and they just
decide not to carry it on.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Yeah, And on that note, another one was Sandyton, which
is one of Jane. It was Jane Austen's last novel
that she never finished, and yet they made it into
a series. And so they made it into a series.
In the first season, the romantic interest was Theo James, who, like,

(41:20):
you know, I could watch anything with THEO James in it.
He's amazing. But then they hired somebody to write the
second season to finish her book, Jane Austen's novel, and
they killed THEO James and they like just gave her
some other random love interests. And I'm like, you just
you don't do that. You don't kill Leo James and

(41:41):
make up some other love interest and finish a Jane
Austen story. So I had so many problems with that
particular thing. So yeah, I again, though in my own head,
I've already rewritten it how I wanted the ending to be,
so it's all okay.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, I've not watched the The Dirt gently series. I've
read the books and obviously there's only a couple of them,
so it does intrigue me. Is it very different?

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Ah, it's different from the books they've they've changed it.
It was great and I agree with Ross there. The
first season was really really good, and the second season
totally jumped the shark, and I felt like they could
have brought it back. I would have loved a third season.
They had like the Rowdy Three, which was like a
group of three tough guys, four tough guys. The Rowdy

(42:30):
Three was actually four guys in a van that went around,
very whimsical. I really enjoyed it. My husband is a
huge Douglas Sadin fan, so and so are my sons.
So we all watched it together and we were all
disappointed when it ended.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, I mean I love Douglas Adams as well, and
I think I saw the adaptation advertised and it was like,
I don't know if I can watch it, because if
it's not like the books, it'll annoy me. And if
it is like the books, like it probably just make
you sound.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
So it's definitely worth watching. It's kind of like it
is like it, but it's different stories, like it's not
really an adaptation of Dirk Gently's story.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, we've got some really good questions coming in, so again, guys,
if you're watching, please to send those questions in well,
I'll ask the first one. So oh, well that disappeared,
but it wasn't my initial first one. But question and
this this made me laugh when I'm sorry because I
was like, I have no idea what this is, but

(43:32):
what are your thoughts on Robert the Doll?

Speaker 4 (43:34):
I don't know who? What's Robert the Doll right now?

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah? The bit that made me laugh was I hesitate
to even type his name and that freaked me out,
but also maybe laugh so yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Oh was that from Dirk gently I think Robert? Yeah,
that was in the second season.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Robert the Doll is reportedly a haunted doll exhibited at
the East of My Telemuseum in Key West, Florida, once
owned by a painter, author, and Key West resident, Robert
Eugene Otto.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
I do know this story. I do know the story
so like and and somebody just recently died after dishonoring
the doll or doing something with the doll, moving the doll.
I forget what the story was.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
It says, according to legend, the doll has supernatural abilities
that allow it to move, change its facial expressions, and
make giggling sounds, which sounds terrifying.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Okay, I I this is part of my thing with
my podcast too, Like I really just don't I don't
delve into the horror stuff, Like I just put up
a wall, you know. I don't want to know about
evil dark spirits. I don't want to communicate with evil
dark spirits. Like I'm just not going to go there.
So my thoughts are like, if there is a Robert

(44:53):
the Doll in my life for environment, I will be
slamming the door.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, definitely, I agree with that. Halo's got a question here.
So physically, do you do you feel more connected to
new places or new people when you travel?

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Do I feel more connected to new places?

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Yeah? Or new people? Are you enjoying the place of
the people when you arrive?

Speaker 4 (45:22):
No? Do I enjoy the place or the people. I
think it's always different, you know, it's really different. Sometimes
I really connect with the place. There are places I've been,
and I think everybody has this to some extent where
you're like, you feel like I could live here, you
feel like you have lived there at some point, you know,
in a past life or something. You can really see

(45:44):
yourself there. And then there's people that I've just encountered
randomly over the years, that I've connected with for no
logical reason. You know, I met a famous painter in
Jerusalem who does a lot of like street art, and
I went to one of his events and I made
friends with his mother for probably half an hour, and

(46:05):
we still stay in touch, like we just clicked, like
there was just something like I know her, you know,
I know this person. It's really weird, but you know,
every few months we message with each other and it's
like we've known each other all our lives. Why. I
don't know. I don't know why that happens with some people,
but it just does.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
It's very strange, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
And it's the same sort of argument when you meet someone,
don't even meet them, but you instantly know you do
not get on with that person and it's just either
a friction or complete sort of familiar us about them.
And it does happen with a lot of people. So yeah,
there is a I wonder if there is a reason
behind that.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Maybe it's something open to all of it. I don't
have the answers. I'm just you know, I'm just open.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Happens to met this year, Chris witnessed it all. Yeah,
I met somebody and I was like, well, she does
not like me, no reason whatsoever. But yeah, anyway, Russ
has a great question, and you near the end of
a series, are there other things you wish you hadn't

(47:15):
put into the books earlier now that you're at this point.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
No, but there's lots of things I wish I had
put into the books. You know, I'm really good at
like leaving myself, like writing things in that I don't
know I need later, or like leaving myself breadcrumbs that
end up coming in useful. So there's lots of stuff
for me to work within future books that I sneak

(47:42):
in there. My subconscious must be at work. But there's
always more that I wish i'd put in. There's more
things that I'm like, Ah, why didn't I think of that?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, I mean you put dragons in this new book.
So as a Welshman, dragons are something that I love.
Why suddenly dragons in this one and not the others?

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Uh? So, well, there are dragons in the others. Because
in the first book, there is a character. She's a
teenage girl and she's a shifter, and she's kind of
self conscious because she hasn't really settled on what kind
of shifter she is, and usually as a shifter, you're
the same type of shifter as your parents, and her
father is a stag shifter, her mother was a Cariboo shifter.

(48:27):
Her mother's absent and she's just going through a rough time,
and it turns out she turns out to be a
dragon shifter, which is like, you know, some recessive, rare,
unheard of thing, And so she was just one of
my favorite characters in the first book. She's a main
character in this third book, and she's kind of like
on her journey to discover who and what she is

(48:47):
and that she's a dragon, And so I decided that
there's really not very many dragons in the Mortal world,
which is part of why she's so rare and special.
But there are dragons in the Gin world, in the
night Market world, and I kind of liked how Gin
are made of smoking fire. Dragons are very related to

(49:08):
smoking fire, so they're very much at the center of
this Gin world, and they are the memory keepers and
they power the night Market. So it's kind of a
different version of dragons than people are used to.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, I was going to ask a question then, based
on there's a series that I Love by C came
with Dow and we met Harrogate and he has a
character where it's just sort of bread crumbing her sort
of origin story through his novels. And when I met him,
I sat down and said, can you tell me do
you know where this character is going? Because I need
to know that you know that it's going in a

(49:47):
certain direction and you're going to give us some clarity
at some point. So when you're writing a character that
you know, oh, I'm going to develop this character, how
do you get that balanced right between bringing up new
information in a novel but not revealing everything in one book.

(50:08):
Can you sort of prolong it over a couple.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
I mean, that's that's part of the art, you know,
It's like how much am I going to reveal? I
told you I seedd you know my next series in
this book that I'm writing right now, And there's a
character his name is Goldstone Lions, who's actually that's actually
an ancestor of mine from from England who I used

(50:33):
the name. I really loved his name. I was like, oh,
I'm going to use that name someday. So yeah, part
of that book is going to be set in London.
I spent quite a bit of time in London. My
my daughter went to UCL so I spent some time there.
But how much information do I give about Goldstone? I

(50:53):
really just put in like one tantalizing story that was
a whiff of his character and where that next series
is going to go. And I left it at that
because I don't want it to take away from the
story that I'm telling in the characters that I'm focusing on.
But I wanted to be more than just you know,

(51:14):
he had brown hair, you know, I wanted to be
some of the people are like, oh, who's this and
they really want more information about him.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
What a brilliant name that is.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Yeah, there's some great names talking about Chris. I know,
We've were watching the football the other day and there's
a couple of good names in there as well.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Yeah, I mind my ancestry and my family, Like, I
feel like that's me honoring my ancestors. Maybe they'll smile
down from somewhere.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
That's a really nice thing to do, I think. But
also in terms of writing, you know, Chris mentioned earlier,
it's some people write magical stories really kind of complicated,
and you've got a system where it's kind of really
a simplistic way of transitioning it all together. What advice
have you got somebody who wants to start writing a

(52:03):
world that seems to be you know, I'm guessing a
much more difficult world to write in than most you know.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Have you got advice for them?

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Okay, this is going to sound awful, but when in doubt,
leave it out. You know, if something is not important
to the story that you're trying to tell and to
that you know, the plot and the action like it
may be super interesting and super cool, but just leave
it out. You know it's only going to weigh you

(52:33):
down and you're gonna, I think, regret it in the
long run, because when your story becomes too heavy and lore,
it just readers don't have time, energy and attention span
to get into things like save it for. Save it
for when you have a huge fan base and you
want to write a side story or you want to

(52:55):
create you know, some some additional product or story or
thing that people are all ready into your world and
now they want to know the nitty gritty.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I think that's great advice, especially having the build up
of the author base of the fan base, because you're
right in that sense that I have definitely been put
off by certain complicated books at the start. But if
you have that base there, then you can obviously drip
it in later on. Right, That's I think that's brilliant advice.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
What's the best way?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Then?

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Again, after another sort of tip, what's the best way
to introduce magic to the reader? Because a lot of
books I read, you sort of discover how the magic
works with the character as they're sort of moving along.
And I don't necessarily think that's the best way a
lot of the time, because, like you said before about
show and not tell, it's like you are told, oh,

(53:47):
this is how the magic works here. So what advice
would you give to somebody for doing that.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
I don't know that I have the best advice, but
I do have a little hack, A little thing that
I did with my books that kind of feels like cheating,
but it's not, and it's worked very well for me.
Is rather than try and explain and illustrate all of
the magic of the world that I'm writing about my books,

(54:14):
each one has three character perspectives, which is more than
some do. But I do have three main characters in
each book, and I've given each of them a book
about the world from sort of their perspective. So in
The mud Peddle Manual of Natural Magic, the first book
in the series, there is a there is an actual

(54:37):
mud Pedal Manual of Natural Magic, and every chapter that
starts with that character's stuff, there's a little tiny excerpt
about the world of natural Magic. And then for a
witch there is the Arcane Elite Handbook for Purity, so
there's a little snippet from her book. And then for
the man who's a shifter, there's the Gentleman Shifters, the

(54:58):
Metamorphic Manual. It's kind of like a cheeky you know,
how to be a gentleman thing for shifters. So I
think dropping in sort of other books and other references
and snippets and quotes from your world, people paint in
a picture very quickly, and it's a way to sort
of I don't know, I feel like it's cheating, but

(55:19):
I've done this with all my books now and people
love it. They love that they get that little glimpse
in that little bit and it's just enough for them
to like understand the world and understand where the character's
coming from.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Yeah, I love that it's just like you said, a
little glimpse, and then there's brain and imagination creates the
rest of it. You know, if you can get a
quote from a book, you're like, oh, this book exists,
what happens in it? I'm guessing this is part of
the law, or this is part of it, and the
brain just starts to Yeah, invent a lot. That's great tip.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
And the more your books exist in someone else's mind,
the more successful you are. I mean, it's great to
share what's in your mind, but really matters at the
end of the day is what other people picture when
they read it.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
That's amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
So with the Magpie Oracle coming out in October, what
would be next for you? Have you got a plan
of what's going to come after that or you just
kind of see where this goes.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
I have a couple of standalone books that I want
to write that are a little bit different. So one
of alls Greek gods in Southern California and Jane Austen novel,
and the other one involves, you know, a mashup of
Love Island and the Show Dead like Me. So we'll
see where those go.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Do you think that will be with your fan base?
Now would you consider like a pen name for that?
And because it's a different genre.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I'm on the fence about it. I might do like
an initial and keep my initials and then go with it.
But ultimately, my humor and my personality is going to
be in anything that I write. So yeah, I don't
like the idea of having a lot of pen names.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
M hm, Heather said.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Kiara was that was me as a Cia, that was
what spit that out. Cira that was me as well.
My ancestry began some story ideas, but I absolutely got
bogged down with the research and putting everything in.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
I can relate to that.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, brilliant. So before we go, where can everyone find
you on social media? Where can they buy your books?
Where can they you know, stalk you're writing all those things?

Speaker 4 (57:33):
So I'm on Amazon, Barnes and Noble in the United States.
I do have my own website it's shop dot Sierra
Bloom dot com and that I do worldwide shipping, so
it's not a problem. I'm also on Amazon UK. I'm
really easy to find anywhere on social media at Sierra

(57:53):
Bloom Author everywhere, so it's the same.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Like I said, guys at the start the show. During
the show, the Amazon KDP Storyteller Award is something please
do go and look into. You've got only a couple
of weeks so that's finished, and it's a massive prize
and we've had guests on who have won that prize.
It's changed their career, So have a look into that.
But also please go and support Sierra by her books

(58:18):
and just give her a follow on socials.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
And you know, share around this show as well.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Give it a like, leave some comments if you want to,
and if you have follow up questions, please do send
them in.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I'm sure we can pass them on.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
And yeah, thank you so much for tuning into the
show and for leaving all your great questions.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
So Sierra, for me, you've been a great guest with
a brilliant story.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I love all your stories about your sort of paranormal
encounters and your magic world.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
So thank you so much for joining me and us.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Yeah, and just remind us all again what that podcast
is so we can all go over and listen to
that as well.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Supernatural Travel Tales.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, definitely it does sound right up Power Street. You
never know. After the show, me and Chris might jump
on Alive and listen to a bit of that because
it's a fantastic story, and yeah, we'd love to hear
a little bit more of it. But it's been fantastic
chatting to you. We've loved every minute, and yeah, more
people need to write magic and create their own little

(59:22):
free libraries outside the houses. If everyone could do.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
That, great, brilliant Thank you everybody, and please stay safe,
have a great weekend, and we'll see all very soon.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
But both of us

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