September 21, 2025 • 57 mins
Introducing the Spirit Seekers Society, a team of five women who live in Pennsylvania and Canada. They walk the line between realms, seeking connection and truth where others fear to tread. As a team, they have ghost hunted at the Mid Orange Correctional Facility and many other places. Join in our discussion of ghost hunting and the status of Women in the Paranormal!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Paranormal. It surrounds us. It's everywhere. Tonight you will hear
from the people who live and work within these highly
active locations, all in the efforts to discover America's most
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haunted and most haunted. With your host Ghost Times are
an author.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Dan Terry.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Sorry about that. Good evening, Boys and ghouls. I am
Dan Terry. Your ghost host was the most haunted, and
I am bringing up another team of all female ghost hunters.
This group is out of Pennsylvania and one member who
didn't make it tonight is out of Canada. I think
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she did make it, think of it. Yeah, so we
got three out of Pennsylvania, one out of Canada. Don't
tell me how. Asked me how they got together. I
have no idea, but we'll talk about that. And during
this we were chatting earlier about whether women ghost hunting
groups get the attention that the men get. I realized
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they don't on television, but you guys are watching this. No,
it's probably running about fifty to fifty, maybe a little
more towards the women. For some reason, they're more eager
to come on the show or more agreeable. Call it
what you will. I'm not sure, but is there a
problem there? Is it real or imagined? And I think
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it's real. Like I said, it was a little different.
But what do we see on television? We see the
ghost Utters, Ghost Adventures. How many women were on that regularly?
Very few? So let's talk talk about that and talk
about ghost tunning in general with Bree, Becca and Kay.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Hello, Hello the.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Spirit Seeker Society. And first thing I want to ask
is how did you get in here from Canada with
the Pennsylvania people.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Well, Canada popped in. Honestly, we all met through the
Fear Club, which is what Project Fear they're called now
they to be called Destination Fear. They started, they started
their own little app and actually Bree slid into my DMS.
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Uh so, see slid in there, we got chat talker.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
A little bit, a little bit, I'm go.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Ahead, h uh oh storm problem maybe right, Beca, how
did you get on with Beck? I'm sorry, Brie? How
did you get along with Beck?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
And k?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Here?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
So I did? I slid into Becca's DMS during one
of their live streams and we had just kind of
in the chat. I saw that she was typing some things.
I was like, we'd probably be great friends. Oh, we
hit it off and then we started a Spooky Happy
Hour and in our second season we had hour Computer.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Kicked me outright.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
There, she is. I was just telling him that I
slid into your DMS knewing that we'd be best friends.
And then we started Spooky Happy Hour after that, and
Kaylet was actually one of the Fear Club members that
we had on for the second season.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay, now when you say seasoned, what do you mean
by that? Was this a internet show or a TV
show or a.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Podcast just YouTube? But because I'm almost thirty five, I
only talk in that slang episode season Well, like our.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
First season, we wanted to like review Destination Fear episodes
because I really wanted to review, like I'm such a
horror movie fan and I really wanted to do that,
but she kind of wanted to do the podcast side.
So we just kind of combined ideas and it just
made sense. And then once we finished Destination Fear season one,
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she kind of was just like, well, why don't we
start interviewing people in between, and it just made sense
to have Fear Club members on and then down the
road we started meeting more ghost hunters.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Okay, yeah, that's intriguing. We talked or I'm sorry you
put down on the on the site. You had just
come back from a week long road trip together, did
what did you find?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Lots of lots of women in one hotel room and
we're all still alive, you know, like we're all still alive.
We actually did really great, super proud of us on
that front. Yeah, we did three paranormal locations back to
back to back. One was in Pennsylvania, the Green County
Almshouse in Waynesburg, and then we went to Old Hospital
on College Hill and Williamson, West Virginia. And then we
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ended with Saint alban Sanatorium and we collaborated with one
of our friends and fellow ghost hunters, Colonne. And so
we ended our are awesome week with the Smoky Mountain
Terror Expo in Tennessee. So it was a horror expo
and you know, some other paranormal related things. You know,
people were there, but mostly it was a lot of
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like celebrities, horror actors, and the resort was awesome and yeah,
we kicked it. So it was like one of the
trips that we've had.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Yeah, and honestly, like we all just kind of wanted
to go to the convention and that was like our
top main attraction, and then we're like, why don't we
just make it a road trip? This makes most sense.
So I flew in, we drove down, and it was
probably one of the best trips I've ever been on.
I can tell you that much.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
For like six months, and when it finally happened, it
was so surreal that we all that was great.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Tell me about College Hill. I had the owner of
that on the show about a year and a half ago. Oh, welesome.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I think that it was the one. It was like
the sandwiched one, right, Like we got the first one
out of the way, but we were tired, and then
we were so excited about like the very last one,
because I think that that was like our It was
building up to a really big location and so we
had definitely some activity for sure, and I will say,
if I'm being honest, it wasn't as much as I
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thought that it would be. However, I mean, was it
our energy that was off? It's just you know, one
of those nights it happens, right, and we're going to
be authentic and real about that, because anybody who does
this knows you're not going to get everything every time.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But that's not what Ghost Hunters did. After the second season,
it was every day, it was a horror house in there.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I think that there's a I think there's a conundrum,
right whenever you're producing content, and maybe it's paying your
bills to say, okay, how do we present this in
a way, and maybe it's not you know, maybe it's
really great editing, Maybe it's real creativity. Maybe it's a
storyline that you get sucked into and the lull of
activity isn't what you remembered about that show.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So he's long of filming for an half hour.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
A lot of these creators and TV like they go
and they get to spend multiple days. But with our trips,
like we are every night, it's a different location and
we are like packing it in there. So that's the
big difference. And with us, like we were only there
for what that was. We had more time there at
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Well Hospital than we did any of the locations, which
was great, but that was the sandwich to one and
that was we got what we got and that was it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Okay. Well, I don't know if you all remember the
first season of Ghost Hunters. The drama come from home life.
It was always about the bald guy whatever his name was,
Jason and his wife arguing or something, and I think
they figured out that wasn't going to work, so they
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moved to more ghost stuff, whether it was real or not.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, I think Ghost Hunters probably was my I mean
it was more of the ghost Adventures. Of course, like
definitely watched the Ghost Hunters. But I think it's like,
sometimes it's hard for me to remember what I had
for breakfast or twenty years ago that first season. I'm like,
I can't recall it off of the top of my head.
But I do think that, Yeah, shows evolve a lot
from where they started to you know, where they end
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or where they currently are. And I know that one day,
I'm sure after we put out a lot more videos,
maybe you know next year, sometime we'll be archiving those
very first ones. Yes, a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
All right, Well, have you done anything else other than
those three as a team.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, we just came back from Warwick, New York this
last weekend, where we did mid Orange correctional facility and
so as a group altogether as our current five, we've
done four locations, but we also did a road trip
in March where we went to the Heinzel House and
the Grand Midway Hotel in windbur Pennsylvania, And so all
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of us have had different levels of experiences, all of
us have some of us for our for in May's trip,
it was our very first investigation ever. So ka, that
was a that was a different dynamic that k brought
to the to that it was her first time.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that's awesome. Okay, what what's your opinion
of it? I know you're excited and all that, but
was it what you dreamed of or did you think
it was a little more slow and quiet than you expected?
Speaker 6 (10:15):
So I think I got like the whole, that whole
thing within the entire road trip. Our first night was
Greene County Olm's house, So it was just super surreal,
Like I could not have asked for a better location
as my first location every night, and then doing it
with your best friends by your side that you guys have,
like we've worked so hard on Spear Secret Society and
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we had, like I said, like this trip has been
in the works for six months. The first night it
had it was everything I had dreamed of. It was
kind of like a pinch me moment, like, am I
really doing this? The following two nights, so Saint Alban's
being the when we ended at and College Hill like,
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they provided different experiences, but nothing that was like a letdown.
It was just, you know, this is something I had
wanted to do for years and I grew up dreaming
about but never thought was possible. But you know, there
are shows out there and creators that will make it
seem like it's all night, back to back to back,
but you're actually sitting there for six eight hours and
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get ten twenty minutes of actual activity if you're lucky.
So it's just that's it's not that it's not fun,
it's just, yeah, be realistic about it, and that perspective
is really I mean, that's really a fact of it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I think the first time does get where you realize
it's not you know, like you said, back to back stuff,
it's a lot of sitting and waiting.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
And yeah, sometimes it's quite boring, honestly.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Honestly though, my first location was the Hensdale House, and
my experience is much different because probably what thirty minutes
were there. I go outside and I see a shadow
figure in the window and then things just were popping off.
And now that's like my favorite location and I need
to go back and sleep on the couch at some point,
so mental note everyone.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Well, and it was her first The Hinsdale House was
Becca's very first investigation. And we'd pull a tarot card
to pick who does the solo, and we've each picked
a tarot card that we leave like embodies, like our
own archetype, So that's what we use for solo time.
And she actually got the very first solo of Spirit
Secret Society on her very first investigation. And she was
a badass. She like made it the whole time, and yeah,
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it was a great all right.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah, I have heard about the Hensdale House. I don't
know much about it. I did most of my ghost
tunning from the midwest Kansas, Missouri, Illinois. Tell me about
the Hensdale House.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
There's lots of different theories about what's at the Hinsdale House,
and I think that everybody has their own. I think
a lot of the stories that we're hearing, the majority
of them are about some very evil type entity or
something completely non human, and that wasn't our experience, so
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who's to say what's really there. But I think that
our truth right, just based on our experience at the
Hinsdale House, would be that it's not an evil and
malevolent type thing. But that's our one experience.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
So if I don't like even looking at other people's
stuff after going like we did, see a couple things outside,
a couple things inside, and then looking back like I've seen.
Nick Groff has been working on this. Him and his
wife Tessa have been working on this location for like
ten years or something. And some of the stuff he
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pointed out that they got could potentially be what we got.
We just didn't know what was going on because they're
going on about there's something in the woods and there's
this woman who she may be demonic, she may not
be demonic, or she could be something else like a
woodland entity or something like that. But you never know.
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And I also believe too, like sometimes if you keep
hearing a story and people keep repeating the story, you're
actually maybe manifesting that story to come alive. So who's
to say that we've created the Hinstell House story?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
That makes sense? And when I got into this, I
worked with another team. I was never part of them,
but we worked together two of them one of them
had a demonic how he lived in a demonic house,
had to flee, understood that that was his gig. And
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the other one was very Baptist. When you die, you
go to heaven, you go to hell. That's it. Anything
left as demons, and that's all they ever found was demons.
I come in get in the middle of them. All
I ever find is CatSper because that's what I'm looking
for is happy, regular human ghosts. And I finally got
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one of them convinced. He used to believe like the
Baptist one used to believe that. Now it's like, okay,
maybe there are human spirits that just don't want to
cross over. Could that be part of it too? You
find what you're looking for. You all were not looking
You all were not looking for demonics, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
No, I think like we were very much open to
the to the home to tell us what was going on.
That was our first investigation as an entire team. Some
of us really like to do a lot of research
for me on our spirit secret Society is comprised of
three different three different committees, and so for me and
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one of our other members, MJ who's not here, we
do like the research kind of like logistical organization, planning
road trips, that type of thing, making connections in our communities.
And that was I think something I ran into was
that like a lot of what we thought that we
knew about the place maybe not have been all correct.
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You know, maybe some of the stories were accurate, but
maybe they didn't happen exactly where we think that they did,
you know. So I think that that has like a
big influence on certain stuff. Now. We never claimed to
know everything about every location that we've ever gone to,
but we do like to do our research. The only
person who does who might not like to know too
much about locations is Kay. She is working on developing
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some of her some of her abilities, and on our
very first road trip in March, she wasn't able to come,
but she did some automatic writing, remote type viewing from
her house, and in the morning we got a message
from her with the time stamp from the night before
and about all the things that she was getting about
our experience, and we probably checked off every single one.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
And I speaking about the hens Stell house, I don't
think that, you know, negative things don't exist there. I
just think that we and we spoke about it before
you guys actually went to the hen cell and like,
we're we're not there to find that, we're there to
let the house, like you said, for tell the story.
And you know, when I was doing my automatic writing,
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I did get things saying like lurking in, looking in
and I'm pretty sure is it Nick and Tessa that
were like there's the women in the lake. And I
just kept being like, watt for the lake, watch out
for the lake. And you guys even saw there was
something looking in the window at you guys when you
were in a house, that's like and then you got
we got I don't remember what device it was on,
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but a spirit said, I'm not demonic, I'm not, I'm
not that.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
That was in the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Becca was under estus in the kitchen and the rest
of us were in the living room and really wanted
to get to the bottom of that, and she just
kept repeating it over and over again. It's not just
like a very our impression was it was a very
angry spirit that he was being maybe misinterpreted because the.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Way it sounded like, cause you can Estes is my
go to, like I will literally this past week and
I was under for an hour and I was sad.
I love it. I don't know if that's a good
thing or a bad thing, but minor detail, but I
could hear it in his voice, and you could tell
he was an older man, and I could just hear it,
and for some reason, I just sensed he was upstairs
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in a corner and he was just saying like, I'm
not a demon, Like he just kind of like like
like I'm frustrated. I'm sick of hearing this over and
over and over again. Whether that's a trick or not,
I don't know, but genuinely, I sense like he's annoyed,
and like a lot of people go to that location.
It's a hot spot, so I feel like there were
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people in there before us, there were people in there
after us. So I can only imagine how this spirits feel.
And if someone's coming into my house every single day,
I'd be like, can you just leave? Like I liked
my alone time, thank you very much?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So again, what I was getting a do you think
people find what they're looking for? Or I always kind
of wondered if these guys didn't have a demonic presence
kind of attached to one of them.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I mean, I think there's confirmation bias for a reason,
right Like I think that sometimes you will see it
through that lens, and I do think at the end
of the day, you have to be able to check yourself.
You may be like, you know, you're allowed to have
your subjective experience and believe what you believe you know
in that moment, and then maybe afterwards or two days later,
you're processing that experience and maybe you come back and say, oh,
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maybe it actually was this thing. Maybe I ate something
ahead of time that wasn't agreeing with me, and that's
why I don't feel good and I'm nauseating right now,
Like do you know whatever that might be? But I
think that there's there's room for all of it. I
think that if you are determined to find something, you
probably will, and if you go in there and check
your confirmation bias, you might find even more than what
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you originally look for.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Do you think that we're dealing with demonics? If that's
what you're looking for, it's an invitation for them.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I can see that for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I can see that absolutely, and I think that they're selective.
So I don't think that even if you go into
if any old person goes in there and says, you know,
whatever they need to to invite them to them. I
don't necessarily mean that that's automatic. I think that then
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that demon may go into evaluate that person and say
can I feed here? And if there's a lot of
stuff that's left unchecked, if there's maybe trauma or grief
or self limiting belief, negative patterns, stuff that you haven't
really confronted, that's their breeding grounds. So I think that
they're very selective in that manner.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Honestly, Like we've been told, like spirits kind of know
when you're coming. So if you if you have that thought,
like I want to find the most demonic thing, like
I want intenseness, I want this to happen. I want
things to pop off. I think things will come to
you if you're looking for it. And I do believe
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though some of them will spout out like demon, devil,
satan just to scare you, because there are, like CA said,
there are negative entities. But I don't necessarily believe every
time the D word comes out that's what it means.
And I feel like some people take advantage of it
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just for action, just for movie magic kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That was group group.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
That was like on our road trip in May, one
of the locations there was like a known spirit that
was negative, not demonic by any means, but very intimidating,
especially towards women. And so this location, I was in
the basement with another person and I think it was
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spearbox we had going and it started to get very
kind of trying to be intimidating, and so the demonic
word came out and a couple other things. It was
like in moments like that, I mean, you can also
feel the energy. We were not going in there with
that intention, and I don't even think that really is
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a known thing there that's supposed to be there. But
it's just you have to realize that you're also in
control and they are going to try and to intimidate you,
and they're going to try and get you out of there,
but you are in control in that point and they
are just literally trying. They're just trying to get you out,
They're trying to intimidate you, They're trying to show like, hey,
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I have the control, but not no mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I really like the way you all think. It follows
very close to the way I believed. So We'll have
to talk more about this at some point, but tell
me about your best experiences on this last road trip.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Last road trip, I was gonna say, if we go
to this, if we go to this last weekend, not
have you.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Not been able to get it.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
We're very We're very much self processing our weekend. It
was I would say that intense. I would say from
our Maze road trip, I saw my very first shadow
figure ever, and that was something I didn't realize was
happening in the moment. I legit thought that it was
another person, and then when I realized that it wasn't,
I was like, I know exactly what I saw. Now,
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is it on a camera? No, it was when I
was setting up a camera down in that direction, But no,
it's on the camera. But I think that was my
most profound experience on our matrip.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Honestly, Like I was glad to start using stuff that
we haven't really used before. Like I absolutely love the
mag lighte session. We started that up. It was so
good at Green County. And then I tried the ghost
tube for the first time, and since I love Estes,
also went under Estes with the ghost tube and I
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plopped myself down in that suicide bathroom, and I absolutely
lived for it. So that was probably what I enjoyed
the most.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Good I'd say, I don't know, I really like when
we went on the May trip, like the mag light
was pretty on point every single night. At Saint Albans
there was I'm not going to go into too much detail,
but there was a.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Double happening and I sawry I lost you there?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
What Oh, there was a double Estes happening at Saint Albans.
And the way that that double assis played out and
had both it was very MJ. She's not here tonight,
but she was under the other assis. They had no
idea what each other was saying, and they were right,
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they were they were communicating, and then the spirits kept
pulling in more people and it was just it put
a whole story together. So seeing that play out was
pretty intense and pretty pretty cool to experience. And then
at Green County we had a child come through while
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I don't remember if we were under Estis yet or
somebody was under Assis, but wanted to hold my hand,
so I put my hand out and you could. I
don't know if you've ever experienced it before, but whenever
you have like a spirit wanting to hold your hand,
or it's just I don't know how to explain it
right now, but you know, and it happened at Green
County and it was just very okay. Yeah, that's probably too.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I hope when you guys get another couple of tours
like this done, you contact me and bring you back
because I like the way you describe it. It puts
people right there in the middle of it.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Hey, I've got to slip away for just a few minutes.
Would you all hold on and I will be right back,
all right. As much I do love work or talking
to the new teams, and you know, I've talked to
a bunch of new teams as you all know some
of the old ones. And you all who watch this
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probably see what I'm seeing is that when's the last
time you saw a group take turns in talking. Usually
there's one that kind of takes control of it. The
others speak a little bit. But yeah, this this is
an amazing group. They're they're very close, they're very good friends,
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Speaker 3 (28:54):
All right, friends, I do want to talk more about
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at the last part of the show, but I do
want to get back to the Spirit Seecret Society with Ka,
Brie and Becca. All right, save as well before Guys,
I'm really impressed with the way you all handle it,
and I think you are one of the first groups,
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not the first, to act like a team here. Again,
usually I get one person takes over the talking and
everyone else gets a word in edge ys that they
try hard. So the friendship you have is really showing tonight.
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And that's another main foundation, you know, is that we
wanted a community of women who were like minded, who
wanted to explore their own spirit and inside and out.
And I think that we all we all do that really.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Well, let me ask you, and I'll start with uh,
with K what what happened that made you think this
is really intriguing? Did you have an experience or just
really dig the topic.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Just hair normal in general?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
You're asking, yes, So I had an experience when I
was younger. I've always kind of I've always had gifts
of some kind that I didn't really explore or know
much about until this last year, and this team has
helped me explore that and support that more than ever,
which is kind of going into my automatic writing and
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all of that, which we could talk about later. But
I had an experience when I was little, and I
grew up very religious, and I could see things, I
could hear things that I was very curious about. But
the one that kind of hooked me and kind of
kept me going and just wanting to know why or
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the just more about the unknown in general, is when
I was in seventh grade and I accidentally, not to
my fault, got an attachment from a friend's house and
it had it. I had spent the night over at
my friend's house, which I lived in Virginia at the time,
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and Virginia is very historic, very haunted. She had a
very old farm house in Virginia, and it was a
very well known thing that her house was haunted. So
you could literally lay upstairs at night and hear conversations
going on downstairs. And her house had two front doors,
one for the men and one for the women because
of how old the house was. But I had to
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have my parents come get me in the middle of
the night because of this entity running around the bed
just messing with me in the middle of the night.
My parents can fix me up, and it affected our
entire house so much that we had to have it
blessed multiple times. And I can still see it just
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because of how scarring it was, and it just at
that point like it didn't yes when I was little,
it scared me, but I've just always had that interest
in knowing that I could see things that others couldn't
and feeling things and hearing Growing up very religious, it
wasn't always you know, supported to do or to find.
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And that's something that I've set out to within the
Serious Secret Society to show that it can be cohesive
and you can things can't exist, and you can also
have a relationship with God and also want to know
why things happen and explore the unknown. So definitely that
experience just kept me going. And here I am watched
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and read and researched and never thought that this would happen,
but here we are.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So Bree, how did you get into involved in the
paranorm Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I think much like Kay, I grew up in a
very religious home and had an experience when I was
younger that I couldn't make sense of. And for me,
if I don't know everything that I can possibly know
about a thing, I will not rest until that happens.
I mean, if you tell me, hey, we're going to
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a new restaurant, I will tell you front and back,
the menu and the parking situation before we get there.
So that's just what I really love to do. And
I think that TV was the way into all of that.
So Ghost Adventures, you know, I feel like in anybody
who's millennial at least my age and Becca will tell
you the same thing, like this is really where we started.
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And for me, like my college roommates will tell you that,
I like used to black out curtain my room, put
some candles on, and ghost Adventure for hours, and it
was just so intriguing to me. That I always knew,
you know what I mean, something something was there, something
was out there, And I always love the paranormal. I
am an avid traveler and back in my days before
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being a mom, you know, done like I've been in
the Paris Catacombs and to concentration camps in Germany and
just like really everywhere. But anytime I've ever traveled, I've
always made short to stop at a hunted location, a
museum and historical So the history part really intrigues me too,
and I think that it's the paranormal is a beautiful
(35:06):
meld of the unseen and history. It's like this big
link between the two, and oftentimes we forget about all
those things before, and I think for me, the paranormal
is a link back and forward that I'm kind of
learning too. It's also something future oriented as well, So
developing the podcast let me go down all of the
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rabbit holes that intrigued me most of my life. And
then I actually broke up with somebody, and two weeks
later I was on my very first like real paranormal ever.
And then like a year later, you know, have my
own team and we went on a whole road trip
and I have four other amazing women who support me,
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not even just in the paranormal field, in my daily
personal life, and my world is totally changed.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Awesome. There's a quote of every book I've written without history,
it's just a campfire tale. And I still believe that,
and I think that's what you're saying. Also, you got
to have the history to have a good ghost story.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Absolutely. I think when you can connect it to real
elements and then feel those places and be in those
places and know what's happened before you, I think it
takes the energy to a very different level. And my
biggest thing that you know, we talked about in the
team is having a lot of respect for that and
if you don't have it, then you know, we don't go.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, that makes sense, beck A. What about you? What's
your story on this one? So?
Speaker 5 (36:34):
I actually had a experience when I was quite young.
I was probably about six years old. My grandma had
passed and she had given my mom, who is her mom,
this very old clock that didn't work. We put it
on the mantle and I can vividly remember the moment,
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shot for shot, like a movie. I was on the couch,
my dad is in the kitchen, this clock just started
going off, just ding ding ding ding ding, spinning going crazy.
My dad started freaking out, didn't know what to do. Uh,
checked it, no batteries in it, what's going on? This
is weird. And he's the type of person that just
doesn't He doesn't really like like that I do this.
(37:19):
He's not really into the paranormal, so me being back
home is great for him. But my mom's really into it.
And when she came home, she kind of just glanced
at the clock as it had stopped, and she goes, oh,
that's the time my mom died, just like casually said it,
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and we're like, okay, strange. I was very, very very
close with my grandma, even though I, oh.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Grandma Becca's Grandma's actually like with her a lot too.
We went to par Con Penhurst and we did a
reading with something Sorry, and she actually you know, talked
about her grandmother. I was telling him about Penhurst par Con,
like knowing that your grandma was always with you and
kind of that picture that you had got, Yeah, he.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Like literally drew her and then I took a photo
of it, and I sent a photo to my mom
and I was like, who does this look like? My
typical mother goes an old woman and I was like,
who does it look like? And she was like, it
looks like my mom and I was like, yup. And
then we did like I did a session with Clarity
by Katie, and she full on just acknowledged that my
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grandma's always with me. Apparently she watches horror movies with me.
I tend to talk out loud a lot, like a
crazy person, but I need to hear things out loud,
and she acknowledged that do not stop doing that, because
your grandma's actually listening and she likes it as a
conversation piece. But a backing track to that clock thing.
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When we moved up, my mom and I tend to
bring up my grandma a lot, and we were just
taking the dog for a walk. We come back into
the house. I noticed this little rabbit thing. I was like, Oh,
where'd that come from? And it was like a statue
and my Mom's like, oh, I took it off my
mom's grave, just brought it home. Didn't want anyone to
steal it. And I was like, ooh, spooky stuff's gonna
(39:20):
happen today, and literally walked through the door and a
clock on the wall is stopped all the time that
she died, and I was like, stop and then I
stopped on the wall. I took it off the wall,
looked at her a clock that she had given us
at the exact same time, and I was just like,
(39:42):
I told you, I told you. And so ever since
that like clock situation, as a kid, I've always been
attracted to the paranormal. We did have other things, like
my one dog would go crazy in the house, we
had stuff move around. My mom saw a gold figures
standing over me. I don't know what that was. And
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my brother was also kind of like really tucked into
the bed randomly one night. My mom didn't talk us
into bed, but she said that night he was fully
tucked in and there are two teddy bears sitting next
to him, and there are the two teddy bears my
grandma had given him, and she goes Weirdly enough, he
was going on a school trip to where my grandma
(40:27):
is from the next day, so my mom was just like,
guess she really tucked him in for that trip. Yeah,
that's kind of what my story was.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, we talked before the show, but I want to
get your opinions on what we discussed about women in
the paranormal and are they being ignored by the larger group.
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yeah, I mean to me, there's no To me, there's
no debate about doing it, mostly because the patriarchal system
gets into every single system that is out there. It's
just like a a unknown thing. I think that learning again,
going into like investigating mode, right, like diving deep into
things that I that I really love, growing up really religiously,
(41:17):
like strictly like Protestant faith, right, having all these Bible
verses that could still probably recite off the top of
my head, and just now knowing that there were so
many women who contributed to the Bible that they are
their pages are almost lost forever. Like Mary Magdalene was
one who had a whole gospel, you know that she had.
And I think that I'm coming into like more of
(41:40):
my own just personhood. It's kind of like I feel
like a lot of people get there in their thirties
where they're like, it's kind of like this on the
fence moment. I'm either going to be liked because I'm
going to go along with everybody else, or I'm going
to be highly criticized. But at least that'll be true
to me type thing. And just learning a lot more
than the surface level that I feel like I've gotten
(42:01):
has led me to believe, Yeah, it's always been this way,
you know, It's always has been, you know, men taking
a lot of credit for women's work, or you know,
I mean even as early as some of the locations
that we went to, like trans Alleghany, right, like just
men that could put their women, their their wives and
admit them into in patients pay yash or hospitals and
they're gone forever. They might spend thirty years that way
(42:23):
with nobody being able to get them out, like and
so I think that there's so much that we can
credit women for whose names we do not know, whose
contributions we really may never know. And I don't think
that that's gone away just because it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
Honestly though, I do think, like, yes, like these shows
were male dominated. We had you're either a Ghost Hunter's
person or a Ghost Adventures person, and yes they were
both male dominant. But I think, honestly, like as time
has gone on, more women from seeing these shows. I
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feel like we've gotten inspired from everyone that's starting to
do it. But then we have people like Patty Negary,
Amy Bruney, even like Satory, like Jason Hawes's daughter. We're
starting to see more young women and Chelsea Leyden, who
is also part of Project Fear. She's the only girl
on the team. But I feel like when we see
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women like that, we become more inspired and we're like,
why is there one girl on the team? Why don't
they have more? And I think the more we see
more women fully as a team together, it inspires other
women to do it. And I think we're more intrigued
in the paranormal part of things because I feel like
women are so entuned and our intuition picks up. We
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want to know the history, We want to see these
locations because that's also a bonus point, Like some of
these locations are gorgeous, and Kay is our photographer and
she can take some photos, so like some of you
just want to capture that like essence of the location
in a photo as well. But I feel like more
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women are starting to come out, like you said before,
like you have more women groups on your podcast than
male and I feel like we're we're getting there. We
just need to keep moving and I feel like we're
all kind of pushing forward towards it.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
I agree, and I know, like we've talked about this
before within our group, but it's very important for us
to all of us within this group, and like I
know other women think like this too, but to show
up and show that we can do this. This is
not our full All of us have full time jobs
(44:45):
outside of this, and three of us are also moms,
and I think all of us too also have something
just on the side that we do, Like I have
photography on the side outside of Spirit Secret Society. Amy
she's the part of our group. She has as like
a whole custom embroidery and like shops she has and
Breeze you know, yeah, Amy and MJ because you can't
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be here. But it's just, you know, it feels even
more empowering because we know that we can do it
and it's just I don't know, and being in a
group of women like I'm lucky to have. We've worked
so hard on preparing ourselves and making this, making sure
(45:37):
that we're really cohesive and work really well together, and
everybody has become like we've just become best friends with it.
So getting to do it alongside all of these amazing
women and meeting other amazing women in the community as well. Like,
we really have met so many friends just that conventions
and at some locations that we go to, we always
(45:59):
tried to even call out to the women's spirits and
give them a chance to tell their story.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
So yeah, I think we're very centered on our own
womanhood and what that means to each one of us.
And you know, some of us are a lot more feminine,
you know, than another, and some of us are very
like some of us are very masculine, kind of male
dominated traits, if you would, if you would say right,
and so I would say, Buck and I are like
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the fiery signs. Everybody else is a little bit more
earth and water, but like we're a little we're mostly fire.
And I think that we also balance each other out
really really, really really well. And like Becka was saying too,
I think that we're just in tune with ourselves. And
I think, like I mean, even just chakra rise, like
your lower ones are more masculine, your higher ones are
more feminine. And so when you get into your third
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eye and your crown and like, you know, being able
to connect a little bit more with like unseen. I
think we all take some of those matriarchal archetypes into
our own and we use them as ways to like
embody the empowerment that we feel together, and I think
that that makes us a lot more prepared and well
oriented for investigating.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Okay, oh sounds intriguing and I have to throw in
with you on a lot of it. Yes, I agree.
Let me ask you one more question for the last
few minutes we've got and uh that kind will start
with you. What's the one place you've got to hit
in the next couple of years.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
What's the don't shake mind? I know what you're gonna say,
don't do it?
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Does it start with a W?
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yes, we can. We can have the same opinion.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
As I think it's accurate, Like I think we have
one as a group that we can say.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
Well, I have to say it because I really want
to go to the Winchester Mystery House because one it
is like a straight up fun house and two I
don't know why, but this is probably gonna happen when
we go. I want to do a solo in there
and at lost.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Is that place really haunted or is it just a
great history and I.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
Could have a whole podcast episode about that. I swear No, honestly,
I think it's both. And I hate to be this
person to bring ghost adventures up again. But like their
last episode at the Winchester, they didn't ghost hunt.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
They did a seance and they brought in like Houdini's
like lineage, like great great grandson, and they got some
wild stuff. So oh yes, they got some crazy stuff.
Even Patty Nagery can attest to that. But I don't
know everyone who seems to go. I feel like you
just get something completely different every time. Either you're just
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in a different spot completely and you have no idea
where you are, or like you'll just get a different
experience and there's just I don't know, that place just
draws me. Sorry, guys, pick a different location.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Oh I'm gonna I'm gonna go down the list in
my brain for mine.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
What's number two? Hey? Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (49:09):
Oh goodness, Okay, I have two that I'm battling, but
I can't remember the name of one, so I might
just have to say the wash Show Club.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Mm hmm. Is that where you're going to say? No,
huh No, I got like three of them that are rattling.
One of the most spot out is that.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Is that in Illinois.
Speaker 5 (49:25):
No, it's oh, okay, okay, why in that place?
Speaker 3 (49:31):
I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
It's a little notorious, I would say, but the whole
town is just known to be haunted, and it's just
being in that town there was.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
She'll be that.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (49:54):
That was just one of the places that I first
heard of. That was just one of the ones you
knew about the a lot of the paranormal growing up,
like teams on TV would go to, and it's just
stuck ever since. And I have yet to see a
team go there with andy come out with no evidence.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
I recently interviewed Ghosts a lady ghost on her from
Las Vegas, but she didn't mention that one. She mentioned
some other stuff, but we didn't get to that one.
So let's figure that one out, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Oh man, sorry, okay. I mean definitely whin Chester Mystery House.
I feel like it's just been on there, uh for
a long time. I actually I did my very first
seance two weeks ago with Patty and Agri and it
was like the best thing in the whole wide world.
And I did ask her about the Houdini seance and
it was like mind blowing one. I just want to
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do whatever she wants me to do ever again with
her because she's so cool. I think that I probably
go like international to like Pavagulia Island in Italy. I
think that that Ghost Adventures episode really just like it
was so crazy to me that I was like, oh
my god, this stuff exists. It's really out there, and
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this is like the seclusion, the isolation. I think it's
just takes it a little bit of a of a
different level that you know, I haven't I haven't done yet.
And for me, I am a lot like the thrill seeker.
I guess like I'm going to push a little bit
of the boundaries, but not going to do it disrespectfully
or unethically or you know, anything like that. But I
do like to push myself to see like what I
(51:30):
can handle, and I think something international, where the history
is richer, might be more paranormally amplified. And I'd like
to see.
Speaker 6 (51:39):
That something anywhere in a national I didn't even like,
I don't know why when you said.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
International, I was like, oh, loftus hall.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Right, Ireland. Ireland would be great.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I'd love to see the castles in Ireland and Scotland
just sat to go. But thanks for being on and
again you're such a great team. There's no rivalry here.
It's so awesome.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Thank you so much. I appreciate it. We had a
great time.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Well we'll have to get you back soon. And oh
right quick. You've got a podcast called.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
The Spooky Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Spooky Happy Hour and where can it be found?
Speaker 4 (52:22):
On YouTube and Spotify every other Thursday at two twenty
two pm Eastern.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
All right, what's what's the basic idea? Are you just
talking amongst yourselves or do you bring guests in?
Speaker 4 (52:33):
So, yeah, it's just me sometimes we you know, we
do have an episode that's going to be coming out
with the whole team, kind of like an introduction episode.
But I do mostly interview style with paranormal investigators, psychics, mediums,
spirit therapists. I mean, you name it, I got it.
It's a an occult podcast where dive really deep into
all of the subjects that that I'm really interested in.
(52:54):
And we just came from the Creep at Real Festival
two weekends ago, so I'll be having some interviews out
with with Ernie at well, Santiago Cirillo, Patty Nagri, Blue Body.
So that'll be coming soon, all.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
Right, and that is spooky happy hour.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
That's right, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Well thanks again, ladies. You again. You've been awesome and
we'll get you back soon. I do want to get
you in touch with my friends over in Sinister Sisters too.
Speaker 4 (53:23):
Yeah, absolutely right, okay, would hang around for just hang
around a little bit and I'll be right back with you. Okay,
sounds good.
Speaker 6 (53:32):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Wow, that was that was a ride. I can't say
I've said that before, but that one was a ride. There.
They're a blast. Hey, real quick, because we're running out
of time. I do will remind you on ex network.
You join up, I go to onex network dot com,
put some information in. You get so much out of
that and among it is monthly by you get the
(54:00):
magazine that we have. You can get it in print,
but they will send it to you for being a
member by email. And it's got some really good writers.
We've got well before he passed, Li Spiegel did some
outstanding work in it. And this one is about time anomalies.
The other one's a ghost. That was the October issue.
(54:23):
I had two stories in there, including the Haunted Battleship
North Carolina. This one here was a more recent edition
where I did a special article just on dolls. But
of course we had folks talking about the Green County Museum.
We had the Fort Dick's story. Quite a bit. Really,
(54:44):
the magazines go everything cryptids, UFOs, witches, vampires. I've had
a couple of good vampire articles I've written, and of
course ghosts. This one here, there was an old restaurant
from the fifties called the Tri County Truck Stop. I
(55:06):
was on the first investigation ever there. It was extremely haunted,
just crazy place, and I've managed to go back multiple times.
It was one of those places that I could always
go back to. You did a lot of charity work
in there too, ghost hunts for charity, and recently the
Devil's Diner as I call it, was hit by a
(55:29):
tornado and all but destroyed. I believe well the article
I wrote it's called the Last Call at the Devil's
Diner because it's gone. But there's always good articles by
some of the top guys. Like I said, they even
let me write now and again, so you may want
to check that out. There's also a blog that's been
burning up lately. Gosh, there's more tic TACs, more, more
(55:53):
government people, military people coming out and talking about their
UFO stuff. Crypts seen. We had Mothman over the Missouri
River recently, so a lot of stuff going on. You
get that as it occurs, as soon as it comes out.
The blog is out and there's a lot more to
it too. On x Con, which we have every year,
(56:16):
This year we're going back to our roots and doing
it over the internet cheaper. That way, you don't have
to have a hotel room, you don't have to travel,
pay restaurants. My god, I just went on vacation, never
had a meal for under one hundred dollars except one
breakfast of McDonald's. So a lot going on. You can
(56:37):
get advanced notice of the x Con, plus the magazine,
the blog, the newsletter, and a lot more too. So
check all of that out and friends, I'm gonna have
to cut loose here. I can't believe we made it
with the storm outside, but we did good. And again
I want to thank my guests. I want to thank
(56:57):
you all and remind you it is so commer time.
Stay hydrated, uh, stay cool, and I guess The most
important thing I can ask you is stay spooped. Good Night,
Paranormal. It surrounds us. It's everywhere. Tonight you will hear
from the people who live and work within these highly
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(00:32):
haunted and most haunted. With your host Ghost Times are
an author.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Dan Terry.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Sorry about that. Good evening, Boys and ghouls. I am
Dan Terry. Your ghost host was the most haunted, and
I am bringing up another team of all female ghost hunters.
This group is out of Pennsylvania and one member who
didn't make it tonight is out of Canada. I think
(01:11):
she did make it, think of it. Yeah, so we
got three out of Pennsylvania, one out of Canada. Don't
tell me how. Asked me how they got together. I
have no idea, but we'll talk about that. And during
this we were chatting earlier about whether women ghost hunting
groups get the attention that the men get. I realized
(01:34):
they don't on television, but you guys are watching this. No,
it's probably running about fifty to fifty, maybe a little
more towards the women. For some reason, they're more eager
to come on the show or more agreeable. Call it
what you will. I'm not sure, but is there a
problem there? Is it real or imagined? And I think
(01:58):
it's real. Like I said, it was a little different.
But what do we see on television? We see the
ghost Utters, Ghost Adventures. How many women were on that regularly?
Very few? So let's talk talk about that and talk
about ghost tunning in general with Bree, Becca and Kay.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Hello, Hello the.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Spirit Seeker Society. And first thing I want to ask
is how did you get in here from Canada with
the Pennsylvania people.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Well, Canada popped in. Honestly, we all met through the
Fear Club, which is what Project Fear they're called now
they to be called Destination Fear. They started, they started
their own little app and actually Bree slid into my DMS.
(02:56):
Uh so, see slid in there, we got chat talker.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
A little bit, a little bit, I'm go.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Ahead, h uh oh storm problem maybe right, Beca, how
did you get on with Beck? I'm sorry, Brie? How
did you get along with Beck?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
And k?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Here?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
So I did? I slid into Becca's DMS during one
of their live streams and we had just kind of
in the chat. I saw that she was typing some things.
I was like, we'd probably be great friends. Oh, we
hit it off and then we started a Spooky Happy
Hour and in our second season we had hour Computer.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Kicked me outright.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
There, she is. I was just telling him that I
slid into your DMS knewing that we'd be best friends.
And then we started Spooky Happy Hour after that, and
Kaylet was actually one of the Fear Club members that
we had on for the second season.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay, now when you say seasoned, what do you mean
by that? Was this a internet show or a TV
show or a.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Podcast just YouTube? But because I'm almost thirty five, I
only talk in that slang episode season Well, like our.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
First season, we wanted to like review Destination Fear episodes
because I really wanted to review, like I'm such a
horror movie fan and I really wanted to do that,
but she kind of wanted to do the podcast side.
So we just kind of combined ideas and it just
made sense. And then once we finished Destination Fear season one,
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she kind of was just like, well, why don't we
start interviewing people in between, and it just made sense
to have Fear Club members on and then down the
road we started meeting more ghost hunters.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Okay, yeah, that's intriguing. We talked or I'm sorry you
put down on the on the site. You had just
come back from a week long road trip together, did
what did you find?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Lots of lots of women in one hotel room and
we're all still alive, you know, like we're all still alive.
We actually did really great, super proud of us on
that front. Yeah, we did three paranormal locations back to
back to back. One was in Pennsylvania, the Green County
Almshouse in Waynesburg, and then we went to Old Hospital
on College Hill and Williamson, West Virginia. And then we
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ended with Saint alban Sanatorium and we collaborated with one
of our friends and fellow ghost hunters, Colonne. And so
we ended our are awesome week with the Smoky Mountain
Terror Expo in Tennessee. So it was a horror expo
and you know, some other paranormal related things. You know,
people were there, but mostly it was a lot of
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like celebrities, horror actors, and the resort was awesome and yeah,
we kicked it. So it was like one of the
trips that we've had.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Yeah, and honestly, like we all just kind of wanted
to go to the convention and that was like our
top main attraction, and then we're like, why don't we
just make it a road trip? This makes most sense.
So I flew in, we drove down, and it was
probably one of the best trips I've ever been on.
I can tell you that much.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
For like six months, and when it finally happened, it
was so surreal that we all that was great.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Tell me about College Hill. I had the owner of
that on the show about a year and a half ago. Oh, welesome.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I think that it was the one. It was like
the sandwiched one, right, Like we got the first one
out of the way, but we were tired, and then
we were so excited about like the very last one,
because I think that that was like our It was
building up to a really big location and so we
had definitely some activity for sure, and I will say,
if I'm being honest, it wasn't as much as I
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thought that it would be. However, I mean, was it
our energy that was off? It's just you know, one
of those nights it happens, right, and we're going to
be authentic and real about that, because anybody who does
this knows you're not going to get everything every time.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But that's not what Ghost Hunters did. After the second season,
it was every day, it was a horror house in there.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I think that there's a I think there's a conundrum,
right whenever you're producing content, and maybe it's paying your
bills to say, okay, how do we present this in
a way, and maybe it's not you know, maybe it's
really great editing, Maybe it's real creativity. Maybe it's a
storyline that you get sucked into and the lull of
activity isn't what you remembered about that show.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So he's long of filming for an half hour.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
A lot of these creators and TV like they go
and they get to spend multiple days. But with our trips,
like we are every night, it's a different location and
we are like packing it in there. So that's the
big difference. And with us, like we were only there
for what that was. We had more time there at
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Well Hospital than we did any of the locations, which
was great, but that was the sandwich to one and
that was we got what we got and that was it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Okay. Well, I don't know if you all remember the
first season of Ghost Hunters. The drama come from home life.
It was always about the bald guy whatever his name was,
Jason and his wife arguing or something, and I think
they figured out that wasn't going to work, so they
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moved to more ghost stuff, whether it was real or not.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, I think Ghost Hunters probably was my I mean
it was more of the ghost Adventures. Of course, like
definitely watched the Ghost Hunters. But I think it's like,
sometimes it's hard for me to remember what I had
for breakfast or twenty years ago that first season. I'm like,
I can't recall it off of the top of my head.
But I do think that, Yeah, shows evolve a lot
from where they started to you know, where they end
(09:08):
or where they currently are. And I know that one day,
I'm sure after we put out a lot more videos,
maybe you know next year, sometime we'll be archiving those
very first ones. Yes, a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
All right, Well, have you done anything else other than
those three as a team.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, we just came back from Warwick, New York this
last weekend, where we did mid Orange correctional facility and
so as a group altogether as our current five, we've
done four locations, but we also did a road trip
in March where we went to the Heinzel House and
the Grand Midway Hotel in windbur Pennsylvania, And so all
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of us have had different levels of experiences, all of
us have some of us for our for in May's trip,
it was our very first investigation ever. So ka, that
was a that was a different dynamic that k brought
to the to that it was her first time.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that's awesome. Okay, what what's your opinion
of it? I know you're excited and all that, but
was it what you dreamed of or did you think
it was a little more slow and quiet than you expected?
Speaker 6 (10:15):
So I think I got like the whole, that whole
thing within the entire road trip. Our first night was
Greene County Olm's house, So it was just super surreal,
Like I could not have asked for a better location
as my first location every night, and then doing it
with your best friends by your side that you guys have,
like we've worked so hard on Spear Secret Society and
(10:38):
we had, like I said, like this trip has been
in the works for six months. The first night it
had it was everything I had dreamed of. It was
kind of like a pinch me moment, like, am I
really doing this? The following two nights, so Saint Alban's
being the when we ended at and College Hill like,
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they provided different experiences, but nothing that was like a letdown.
It was just, you know, this is something I had
wanted to do for years and I grew up dreaming
about but never thought was possible. But you know, there
are shows out there and creators that will make it
seem like it's all night, back to back to back,
but you're actually sitting there for six eight hours and
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get ten twenty minutes of actual activity if you're lucky.
So it's just that's it's not that it's not fun,
it's just, yeah, be realistic about it, and that perspective
is really I mean, that's really a fact of it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I think the first time does get where you realize
it's not you know, like you said, back to back stuff,
it's a lot of sitting and waiting.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
And yeah, sometimes it's quite boring, honestly.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Honestly though, my first location was the Hensdale House, and
my experience is much different because probably what thirty minutes
were there. I go outside and I see a shadow
figure in the window and then things just were popping off.
And now that's like my favorite location and I need
to go back and sleep on the couch at some point,
so mental note everyone.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Well, and it was her first The Hinsdale House was
Becca's very first investigation. And we'd pull a tarot card
to pick who does the solo, and we've each picked
a tarot card that we leave like embodies, like our
own archetype, So that's what we use for solo time.
And she actually got the very first solo of Spirit
Secret Society on her very first investigation. And she was
a badass. She like made it the whole time, and yeah,
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it was a great all right.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah, I have heard about the Hensdale House. I don't
know much about it. I did most of my ghost
tunning from the midwest Kansas, Missouri, Illinois. Tell me about
the Hensdale House.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
There's lots of different theories about what's at the Hinsdale House,
and I think that everybody has their own. I think
a lot of the stories that we're hearing, the majority
of them are about some very evil type entity or
something completely non human, and that wasn't our experience, so
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who's to say what's really there. But I think that
our truth right, just based on our experience at the
Hinsdale House, would be that it's not an evil and
malevolent type thing. But that's our one experience.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
So if I don't like even looking at other people's
stuff after going like we did, see a couple things outside,
a couple things inside, and then looking back like I've seen.
Nick Groff has been working on this. Him and his
wife Tessa have been working on this location for like
ten years or something. And some of the stuff he
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pointed out that they got could potentially be what we got.
We just didn't know what was going on because they're
going on about there's something in the woods and there's
this woman who she may be demonic, she may not
be demonic, or she could be something else like a
woodland entity or something like that. But you never know.
(14:15):
And I also believe too, like sometimes if you keep
hearing a story and people keep repeating the story, you're
actually maybe manifesting that story to come alive. So who's
to say that we've created the Hinstell House story?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
That makes sense? And when I got into this, I
worked with another team. I was never part of them,
but we worked together two of them one of them
had a demonic how he lived in a demonic house,
had to flee, understood that that was his gig. And
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the other one was very Baptist. When you die, you
go to heaven, you go to hell. That's it. Anything
left as demons, and that's all they ever found was demons.
I come in get in the middle of them. All
I ever find is CatSper because that's what I'm looking
for is happy, regular human ghosts. And I finally got
(15:13):
one of them convinced. He used to believe like the
Baptist one used to believe that. Now it's like, okay,
maybe there are human spirits that just don't want to
cross over. Could that be part of it too? You
find what you're looking for. You all were not looking
You all were not looking for demonics, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
No, I think like we were very much open to
the to the home to tell us what was going on.
That was our first investigation as an entire team. Some
of us really like to do a lot of research
for me on our spirit secret Society is comprised of
three different three different committees, and so for me and
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one of our other members, MJ who's not here, we
do like the research kind of like logistical organization, planning
road trips, that type of thing, making connections in our communities.
And that was I think something I ran into was
that like a lot of what we thought that we
knew about the place maybe not have been all correct.
(16:18):
You know, maybe some of the stories were accurate, but
maybe they didn't happen exactly where we think that they did,
you know. So I think that that has like a
big influence on certain stuff. Now. We never claimed to
know everything about every location that we've ever gone to,
but we do like to do our research. The only
person who does who might not like to know too
much about locations is Kay. She is working on developing
(16:41):
some of her some of her abilities, and on our
very first road trip in March, she wasn't able to come,
but she did some automatic writing, remote type viewing from
her house, and in the morning we got a message
from her with the time stamp from the night before
and about all the things that she was getting about
our experience, and we probably checked off every single one.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
And I speaking about the hens Stell house, I don't
think that, you know, negative things don't exist there. I
just think that we and we spoke about it before
you guys actually went to the hen cell and like,
we're we're not there to find that, we're there to
let the house, like you said, for tell the story.
And you know, when I was doing my automatic writing,
(17:27):
I did get things saying like lurking in, looking in
and I'm pretty sure is it Nick and Tessa that
were like there's the women in the lake. And I
just kept being like, watt for the lake, watch out
for the lake. And you guys even saw there was
something looking in the window at you guys when you
were in a house, that's like and then you got
we got I don't remember what device it was on,
(17:47):
but a spirit said, I'm not demonic, I'm not, I'm
not that.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
That was in the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Becca was under estus in the kitchen and the rest
of us were in the living room and really wanted
to get to the bottom of that, and she just
kept repeating it over and over again. It's not just
like a very our impression was it was a very
angry spirit that he was being maybe misinterpreted because the.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Way it sounded like, cause you can Estes is my
go to, like I will literally this past week and
I was under for an hour and I was sad.
I love it. I don't know if that's a good
thing or a bad thing, but minor detail, but I
could hear it in his voice, and you could tell
he was an older man, and I could just hear it,
and for some reason, I just sensed he was upstairs
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in a corner and he was just saying like, I'm
not a demon, Like he just kind of like like
like I'm frustrated. I'm sick of hearing this over and
over and over again. Whether that's a trick or not,
I don't know, but genuinely, I sense like he's annoyed,
and like a lot of people go to that location.
It's a hot spot, so I feel like there were
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people in there before us, there were people in there
after us. So I can only imagine how this spirits feel.
And if someone's coming into my house every single day,
I'd be like, can you just leave? Like I liked
my alone time, thank you very much?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So again, what I was getting a do you think
people find what they're looking for? Or I always kind
of wondered if these guys didn't have a demonic presence
kind of attached to one of them.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I mean, I think there's confirmation bias for a reason,
right Like I think that sometimes you will see it
through that lens, and I do think at the end
of the day, you have to be able to check yourself.
You may be like, you know, you're allowed to have
your subjective experience and believe what you believe you know
in that moment, and then maybe afterwards or two days later,
you're processing that experience and maybe you come back and say, oh,
(19:47):
maybe it actually was this thing. Maybe I ate something
ahead of time that wasn't agreeing with me, and that's
why I don't feel good and I'm nauseating right now,
Like do you know whatever that might be? But I
think that there's there's room for all of it. I
think that if you are determined to find something, you
probably will, and if you go in there and check
your confirmation bias, you might find even more than what
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you originally look for.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Do you think that we're dealing with demonics? If that's
what you're looking for, it's an invitation for them.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I can see that for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I can see that absolutely, and I think that they're selective.
So I don't think that even if you go into
if any old person goes in there and says, you know,
whatever they need to to invite them to them. I
don't necessarily mean that that's automatic. I think that then
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that demon may go into evaluate that person and say
can I feed here? And if there's a lot of
stuff that's left unchecked, if there's maybe trauma or grief
or self limiting belief, negative patterns, stuff that you haven't
really confronted, that's their breeding grounds. So I think that
they're very selective in that manner.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Honestly, Like we've been told, like spirits kind of know
when you're coming. So if you if you have that thought,
like I want to find the most demonic thing, like
I want intenseness, I want this to happen. I want
things to pop off. I think things will come to
you if you're looking for it. And I do believe
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though some of them will spout out like demon, devil,
satan just to scare you, because there are, like CA said,
there are negative entities. But I don't necessarily believe every
time the D word comes out that's what it means.
And I feel like some people take advantage of it
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just for action, just for movie magic kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That was group group.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
That was like on our road trip in May, one
of the locations there was like a known spirit that
was negative, not demonic by any means, but very intimidating,
especially towards women. And so this location, I was in
the basement with another person and I think it was
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spearbox we had going and it started to get very
kind of trying to be intimidating, and so the demonic
word came out and a couple other things. It was
like in moments like that, I mean, you can also
feel the energy. We were not going in there with
that intention, and I don't even think that really is
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a known thing there that's supposed to be there. But
it's just you have to realize that you're also in
control and they are going to try and to intimidate you,
and they're going to try and get you out of there,
but you are in control in that point and they
are just literally trying. They're just trying to get you out,
They're trying to intimidate you, They're trying to show like, hey,
(22:59):
I have the control, but not no mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I really like the way you all think. It follows
very close to the way I believed. So We'll have
to talk more about this at some point, but tell
me about your best experiences on this last road trip.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Last road trip, I was gonna say, if we go
to this, if we go to this last weekend, not
have you.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Not been able to get it.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
We're very We're very much self processing our weekend. It
was I would say that intense. I would say from
our Maze road trip, I saw my very first shadow
figure ever, and that was something I didn't realize was
happening in the moment. I legit thought that it was
another person, and then when I realized that it wasn't,
I was like, I know exactly what I saw. Now,
(23:54):
is it on a camera? No, it was when I
was setting up a camera down in that direction, But no,
it's on the camera. But I think that was my
most profound experience on our matrip.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Honestly, Like I was glad to start using stuff that
we haven't really used before. Like I absolutely love the
mag lighte session. We started that up. It was so
good at Green County. And then I tried the ghost
tube for the first time, and since I love Estes,
also went under Estes with the ghost tube and I
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plopped myself down in that suicide bathroom, and I absolutely
lived for it. So that was probably what I enjoyed
the most.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Good I'd say, I don't know, I really like when
we went on the May trip, like the mag light
was pretty on point every single night. At Saint Albans
there was I'm not going to go into too much detail,
but there was a.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Double happening and I sawry I lost you there?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
What Oh, there was a double Estes happening at Saint Albans.
And the way that that double assis played out and
had both it was very MJ. She's not here tonight,
but she was under the other assis. They had no
idea what each other was saying, and they were right,
(25:18):
they were they were communicating, and then the spirits kept
pulling in more people and it was just it put
a whole story together. So seeing that play out was
pretty intense and pretty pretty cool to experience. And then
at Green County we had a child come through while
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I don't remember if we were under Estis yet or
somebody was under Assis, but wanted to hold my hand,
so I put my hand out and you could. I
don't know if you've ever experienced it before, but whenever
you have like a spirit wanting to hold your hand,
or it's just I don't know how to explain it
right now, but you know, and it happened at Green
County and it was just very okay. Yeah, that's probably too.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I hope when you guys get another couple of tours
like this done, you contact me and bring you back
because I like the way you describe it. It puts
people right there in the middle of it.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Hey, I've got to slip away for just a few minutes.
Would you all hold on and I will be right back,
all right. As much I do love work or talking
to the new teams, and you know, I've talked to
a bunch of new teams as you all know some
of the old ones. And you all who watch this
(26:38):
probably see what I'm seeing is that when's the last
time you saw a group take turns in talking. Usually
there's one that kind of takes control of it. The
others speak a little bit. But yeah, this this is
an amazing group. They're they're very close, they're very good friends,
and they're taking care of each other. And speaking of
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Speaker 3 (28:54):
All right, friends, I do want to talk more about
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at the last part of the show, but I do
want to get back to the Spirit Seecret Society with Ka,
Brie and Becca. All right, save as well before Guys,
I'm really impressed with the way you all handle it,
and I think you are one of the first groups,
(30:00):
not the first, to act like a team here. Again,
usually I get one person takes over the talking and
everyone else gets a word in edge ys that they
try hard. So the friendship you have is really showing tonight.
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And that's another main foundation, you know, is that we
wanted a community of women who were like minded, who
wanted to explore their own spirit and inside and out.
And I think that we all we all do that really.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Well, let me ask you, and I'll start with uh,
with K what what happened that made you think this
is really intriguing? Did you have an experience or just
really dig the topic.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Just hair normal in general?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
You're asking, yes, So I had an experience when I
was younger. I've always kind of I've always had gifts
of some kind that I didn't really explore or know
much about until this last year, and this team has
helped me explore that and support that more than ever,
which is kind of going into my automatic writing and
(31:13):
all of that, which we could talk about later. But
I had an experience when I was little, and I
grew up very religious, and I could see things, I
could hear things that I was very curious about. But
the one that kind of hooked me and kind of
kept me going and just wanting to know why or
(31:34):
the just more about the unknown in general, is when
I was in seventh grade and I accidentally, not to
my fault, got an attachment from a friend's house and
it had it. I had spent the night over at
my friend's house, which I lived in Virginia at the time,
(31:54):
and Virginia is very historic, very haunted. She had a
very old farm house in Virginia, and it was a
very well known thing that her house was haunted. So
you could literally lay upstairs at night and hear conversations
going on downstairs. And her house had two front doors,
one for the men and one for the women because
of how old the house was. But I had to
(32:16):
have my parents come get me in the middle of
the night because of this entity running around the bed
just messing with me in the middle of the night.
My parents can fix me up, and it affected our
entire house so much that we had to have it
blessed multiple times. And I can still see it just
(32:42):
because of how scarring it was, and it just at
that point like it didn't yes when I was little,
it scared me, but I've just always had that interest
in knowing that I could see things that others couldn't
and feeling things and hearing Growing up very religious, it
wasn't always you know, supported to do or to find.
(33:10):
And that's something that I've set out to within the
Serious Secret Society to show that it can be cohesive
and you can things can't exist, and you can also
have a relationship with God and also want to know
why things happen and explore the unknown. So definitely that
experience just kept me going. And here I am watched
(33:33):
and read and researched and never thought that this would happen,
but here we are.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So Bree, how did you get into involved in the
paranorm Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I think much like Kay, I grew up in a
very religious home and had an experience when I was
younger that I couldn't make sense of. And for me,
if I don't know everything that I can possibly know
about a thing, I will not rest until that happens.
I mean, if you tell me, hey, we're going to
(34:05):
a new restaurant, I will tell you front and back,
the menu and the parking situation before we get there.
So that's just what I really love to do. And
I think that TV was the way into all of that.
So Ghost Adventures, you know, I feel like in anybody
who's millennial at least my age and Becca will tell
you the same thing, like this is really where we started.
(34:25):
And for me, like my college roommates will tell you that,
I like used to black out curtain my room, put
some candles on, and ghost Adventure for hours, and it
was just so intriguing to me. That I always knew,
you know what I mean, something something was there, something
was out there, And I always love the paranormal. I
am an avid traveler and back in my days before
(34:46):
being a mom, you know, done like I've been in
the Paris Catacombs and to concentration camps in Germany and
just like really everywhere. But anytime I've ever traveled, I've
always made short to stop at a hunted location, a
museum and historical So the history part really intrigues me too,
and I think that it's the paranormal is a beautiful
(35:06):
meld of the unseen and history. It's like this big
link between the two, and oftentimes we forget about all
those things before, and I think for me, the paranormal
is a link back and forward that I'm kind of
learning too. It's also something future oriented as well, So
developing the podcast let me go down all of the
(35:27):
rabbit holes that intrigued me most of my life. And
then I actually broke up with somebody, and two weeks
later I was on my very first like real paranormal ever.
And then like a year later, you know, have my
own team and we went on a whole road trip
and I have four other amazing women who support me,
(35:49):
not even just in the paranormal field, in my daily
personal life, and my world is totally changed.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Awesome. There's a quote of every book I've written without history,
it's just a campfire tale. And I still believe that,
and I think that's what you're saying. Also, you got
to have the history to have a good ghost story.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Absolutely. I think when you can connect it to real
elements and then feel those places and be in those
places and know what's happened before you, I think it
takes the energy to a very different level. And my
biggest thing that you know, we talked about in the
team is having a lot of respect for that and
if you don't have it, then you know, we don't go.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, that makes sense, beck A. What about you? What's
your story on this one? So?
Speaker 5 (36:34):
I actually had a experience when I was quite young.
I was probably about six years old. My grandma had
passed and she had given my mom, who is her mom,
this very old clock that didn't work. We put it
on the mantle and I can vividly remember the moment,
(36:56):
shot for shot, like a movie. I was on the couch,
my dad is in the kitchen, this clock just started
going off, just ding ding ding ding ding, spinning going crazy.
My dad started freaking out, didn't know what to do. Uh,
checked it, no batteries in it, what's going on? This
is weird. And he's the type of person that just
doesn't He doesn't really like like that I do this.
(37:19):
He's not really into the paranormal, so me being back
home is great for him. But my mom's really into it.
And when she came home, she kind of just glanced
at the clock as it had stopped, and she goes, oh,
that's the time my mom died, just like casually said it,
(37:40):
and we're like, okay, strange. I was very, very very
close with my grandma, even though I, oh.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Grandma Becca's Grandma's actually like with her a lot too.
We went to par Con Penhurst and we did a
reading with something Sorry, and she actually you know, talked
about her grandmother. I was telling him about Penhurst par Con,
like knowing that your grandma was always with you and
kind of that picture that you had got, Yeah, he.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Like literally drew her and then I took a photo
of it, and I sent a photo to my mom
and I was like, who does this look like? My
typical mother goes an old woman and I was like,
who does it look like? And she was like, it
looks like my mom and I was like, yup. And
then we did like I did a session with Clarity
by Katie, and she full on just acknowledged that my
(38:36):
grandma's always with me. Apparently she watches horror movies with me.
I tend to talk out loud a lot, like a
crazy person, but I need to hear things out loud,
and she acknowledged that do not stop doing that, because
your grandma's actually listening and she likes it as a
conversation piece. But a backing track to that clock thing.
(38:58):
When we moved up, my mom and I tend to
bring up my grandma a lot, and we were just
taking the dog for a walk. We come back into
the house. I noticed this little rabbit thing. I was like, Oh,
where'd that come from? And it was like a statue
and my Mom's like, oh, I took it off my
mom's grave, just brought it home. Didn't want anyone to
steal it. And I was like, ooh, spooky stuff's gonna
(39:20):
happen today, and literally walked through the door and a
clock on the wall is stopped all the time that
she died, and I was like, stop and then I
stopped on the wall. I took it off the wall,
looked at her a clock that she had given us
at the exact same time, and I was just like,
(39:42):
I told you, I told you. And so ever since
that like clock situation, as a kid, I've always been
attracted to the paranormal. We did have other things, like
my one dog would go crazy in the house, we
had stuff move around. My mom saw a gold figures
standing over me. I don't know what that was. And
(40:05):
my brother was also kind of like really tucked into
the bed randomly one night. My mom didn't talk us
into bed, but she said that night he was fully
tucked in and there are two teddy bears sitting next
to him, and there are the two teddy bears my
grandma had given him, and she goes Weirdly enough, he
was going on a school trip to where my grandma
(40:27):
is from the next day, so my mom was just like,
guess she really tucked him in for that trip. Yeah,
that's kind of what my story was.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, we talked before the show, but I want to
get your opinions on what we discussed about women in
the paranormal and are they being ignored by the larger group.
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yeah, I mean to me, there's no To me, there's
no debate about doing it, mostly because the patriarchal system
gets into every single system that is out there. It's
just like a a unknown thing. I think that learning again,
going into like investigating mode, right, like diving deep into
things that I that I really love, growing up really religiously,
(41:17):
like strictly like Protestant faith, right, having all these Bible
verses that could still probably recite off the top of
my head, and just now knowing that there were so
many women who contributed to the Bible that they are
their pages are almost lost forever. Like Mary Magdalene was
one who had a whole gospel, you know that she had.
And I think that I'm coming into like more of
(41:40):
my own just personhood. It's kind of like I feel
like a lot of people get there in their thirties
where they're like, it's kind of like this on the
fence moment. I'm either going to be liked because I'm
going to go along with everybody else, or I'm going
to be highly criticized. But at least that'll be true
to me type thing. And just learning a lot more
than the surface level that I feel like I've gotten
(42:01):
has led me to believe, Yeah, it's always been this way,
you know, It's always has been, you know, men taking
a lot of credit for women's work, or you know,
I mean even as early as some of the locations
that we went to, like trans Alleghany, right, like just
men that could put their women, their their wives and
admit them into in patients pay yash or hospitals and
they're gone forever. They might spend thirty years that way
(42:23):
with nobody being able to get them out, like and
so I think that there's so much that we can
credit women for whose names we do not know, whose
contributions we really may never know. And I don't think
that that's gone away just because it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
Honestly though, I do think, like, yes, like these shows
were male dominated. We had you're either a Ghost Hunter's
person or a Ghost Adventures person, and yes they were
both male dominant. But I think, honestly, like as time
has gone on, more women from seeing these shows. I
(43:00):
feel like we've gotten inspired from everyone that's starting to
do it. But then we have people like Patty Negary,
Amy Bruney, even like Satory, like Jason Hawes's daughter. We're
starting to see more young women and Chelsea Leyden, who
is also part of Project Fear. She's the only girl
on the team. But I feel like when we see
(43:22):
women like that, we become more inspired and we're like,
why is there one girl on the team? Why don't
they have more? And I think the more we see
more women fully as a team together, it inspires other
women to do it. And I think we're more intrigued
in the paranormal part of things because I feel like
women are so entuned and our intuition picks up. We
(43:45):
want to know the history, We want to see these
locations because that's also a bonus point, Like some of
these locations are gorgeous, and Kay is our photographer and
she can take some photos, so like some of you
just want to capture that like essence of the location
in a photo as well. But I feel like more
(44:07):
women are starting to come out, like you said before,
like you have more women groups on your podcast than
male and I feel like we're we're getting there. We
just need to keep moving and I feel like we're
all kind of pushing forward towards it.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
I agree, and I know, like we've talked about this
before within our group, but it's very important for us
to all of us within this group, and like I
know other women think like this too, but to show
up and show that we can do this. This is
not our full All of us have full time jobs
(44:45):
outside of this, and three of us are also moms,
and I think all of us too also have something
just on the side that we do, Like I have
photography on the side outside of Spirit Secret Society. Amy
she's the part of our group. She has as like
a whole custom embroidery and like shops she has and
Breeze you know, yeah, Amy and MJ because you can't
(45:14):
be here. But it's just, you know, it feels even
more empowering because we know that we can do it
and it's just I don't know, and being in a
group of women like I'm lucky to have. We've worked
so hard on preparing ourselves and making this, making sure
(45:37):
that we're really cohesive and work really well together, and
everybody has become like we've just become best friends with it.
So getting to do it alongside all of these amazing
women and meeting other amazing women in the community as well. Like,
we really have met so many friends just that conventions
and at some locations that we go to, we always
(45:59):
tried to even call out to the women's spirits and
give them a chance to tell their story.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
So yeah, I think we're very centered on our own
womanhood and what that means to each one of us.
And you know, some of us are a lot more feminine,
you know, than another, and some of us are very
like some of us are very masculine, kind of male
dominated traits, if you would, if you would say right,
and so I would say, Buck and I are like
(46:26):
the fiery signs. Everybody else is a little bit more
earth and water, but like we're a little we're mostly fire.
And I think that we also balance each other out
really really, really really well. And like Becka was saying too,
I think that we're just in tune with ourselves. And
I think, like I mean, even just chakra rise, like
your lower ones are more masculine, your higher ones are
more feminine. And so when you get into your third
(46:48):
eye and your crown and like, you know, being able
to connect a little bit more with like unseen. I
think we all take some of those matriarchal archetypes into
our own and we use them as ways to like
embody the empowerment that we feel together, and I think
that that makes us a lot more prepared and well
oriented for investigating.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Okay, oh sounds intriguing and I have to throw in
with you on a lot of it. Yes, I agree.
Let me ask you one more question for the last
few minutes we've got and uh that kind will start
with you. What's the one place you've got to hit
in the next couple of years.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
What's the don't shake mind? I know what you're gonna say,
don't do it?
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Does it start with a W?
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yes, we can. We can have the same opinion.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
As I think it's accurate, Like I think we have
one as a group that we can say.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
Well, I have to say it because I really want
to go to the Winchester Mystery House because one it
is like a straight up fun house and two I
don't know why, but this is probably gonna happen when
we go. I want to do a solo in there
and at lost.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Is that place really haunted or is it just a
great history and I.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
Could have a whole podcast episode about that. I swear No, honestly,
I think it's both. And I hate to be this
person to bring ghost adventures up again. But like their
last episode at the Winchester, they didn't ghost hunt.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
They did a seance and they brought in like Houdini's
like lineage, like great great grandson, and they got some
wild stuff. So oh yes, they got some crazy stuff.
Even Patty Nagery can attest to that. But I don't
know everyone who seems to go. I feel like you
just get something completely different every time. Either you're just
(48:47):
in a different spot completely and you have no idea
where you are, or like you'll just get a different
experience and there's just I don't know, that place just
draws me. Sorry, guys, pick a different location.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Oh I'm gonna I'm gonna go down the list in
my brain for mine.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
What's number two? Hey? Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (49:09):
Oh goodness, Okay, I have two that I'm battling, but
I can't remember the name of one, so I might
just have to say the wash Show Club.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Mm hmm. Is that where you're going to say? No,
huh No, I got like three of them that are rattling.
One of the most spot out is that.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Is that in Illinois.
Speaker 5 (49:25):
No, it's oh, okay, okay, why in that place?
Speaker 3 (49:31):
I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
It's a little notorious, I would say, but the whole
town is just known to be haunted, and it's just
being in that town there was.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
She'll be that.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (49:54):
That was just one of the places that I first
heard of. That was just one of the ones you
knew about the a lot of the paranormal growing up,
like teams on TV would go to, and it's just
stuck ever since. And I have yet to see a
team go there with andy come out with no evidence.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
I recently interviewed Ghosts a lady ghost on her from
Las Vegas, but she didn't mention that one. She mentioned
some other stuff, but we didn't get to that one.
So let's figure that one out, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Oh man, sorry, okay. I mean definitely whin Chester Mystery House.
I feel like it's just been on there, uh for
a long time. I actually I did my very first
seance two weeks ago with Patty and Agri and it
was like the best thing in the whole wide world.
And I did ask her about the Houdini seance and
it was like mind blowing one. I just want to
(50:48):
do whatever she wants me to do ever again with
her because she's so cool. I think that I probably
go like international to like Pavagulia Island in Italy. I
think that that Ghost Adventures episode really just like it
was so crazy to me that I was like, oh
my god, this stuff exists. It's really out there, and
(51:09):
this is like the seclusion, the isolation. I think it's
just takes it a little bit of a of a
different level that you know, I haven't I haven't done yet.
And for me, I am a lot like the thrill seeker.
I guess like I'm going to push a little bit
of the boundaries, but not going to do it disrespectfully
or unethically or you know, anything like that. But I
do like to push myself to see like what I
(51:30):
can handle, and I think something international, where the history
is richer, might be more paranormally amplified. And I'd like
to see.
Speaker 6 (51:39):
That something anywhere in a national I didn't even like,
I don't know why when you said.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
International, I was like, oh, loftus hall.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Right, Ireland. Ireland would be great.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I'd love to see the castles in Ireland and Scotland
just sat to go. But thanks for being on and
again you're such a great team. There's no rivalry here.
It's so awesome.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Thank you so much. I appreciate it. We had a
great time.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Well we'll have to get you back soon. And oh
right quick. You've got a podcast called.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
The Spooky Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Spooky Happy Hour and where can it be found?
Speaker 4 (52:22):
On YouTube and Spotify every other Thursday at two twenty
two pm Eastern.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
All right, what's what's the basic idea? Are you just
talking amongst yourselves or do you bring guests in?
Speaker 4 (52:33):
So, yeah, it's just me sometimes we you know, we
do have an episode that's going to be coming out
with the whole team, kind of like an introduction episode.
But I do mostly interview style with paranormal investigators, psychics, mediums,
spirit therapists. I mean, you name it, I got it.
It's a an occult podcast where dive really deep into
all of the subjects that that I'm really interested in.
(52:54):
And we just came from the Creep at Real Festival
two weekends ago, so I'll be having some interviews out
with with Ernie at well, Santiago Cirillo, Patty Nagri, Blue Body.
So that'll be coming soon, all.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
Right, and that is spooky happy hour.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
That's right, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Well thanks again, ladies. You again. You've been awesome and
we'll get you back soon. I do want to get
you in touch with my friends over in Sinister Sisters too.
Speaker 4 (53:23):
Yeah, absolutely right, okay, would hang around for just hang
around a little bit and I'll be right back with you. Okay,
sounds good.
Speaker 6 (53:32):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Wow, that was that was a ride. I can't say
I've said that before, but that one was a ride. There.
They're a blast. Hey, real quick, because we're running out
of time. I do will remind you on ex network.
You join up, I go to onex network dot com,
put some information in. You get so much out of
that and among it is monthly by you get the
(54:00):
magazine that we have. You can get it in print,
but they will send it to you for being a
member by email. And it's got some really good writers.
We've got well before he passed, Li Spiegel did some
outstanding work in it. And this one is about time anomalies.
The other one's a ghost. That was the October issue.
(54:23):
I had two stories in there, including the Haunted Battleship
North Carolina. This one here was a more recent edition
where I did a special article just on dolls. But
of course we had folks talking about the Green County Museum.
We had the Fort Dick's story. Quite a bit. Really,
(54:44):
the magazines go everything cryptids, UFOs, witches, vampires. I've had
a couple of good vampire articles I've written, and of
course ghosts. This one here, there was an old restaurant
from the fifties called the Tri County Truck Stop. I
(55:06):
was on the first investigation ever there. It was extremely haunted,
just crazy place, and I've managed to go back multiple times.
It was one of those places that I could always
go back to. You did a lot of charity work
in there too, ghost hunts for charity, and recently the
Devil's Diner as I call it, was hit by a
(55:29):
tornado and all but destroyed. I believe well the article
I wrote it's called the Last Call at the Devil's
Diner because it's gone. But there's always good articles by
some of the top guys. Like I said, they even
let me write now and again, so you may want
to check that out. There's also a blog that's been
burning up lately. Gosh, there's more tic TACs, more, more
(55:53):
government people, military people coming out and talking about their
UFO stuff. Crypts seen. We had Mothman over the Missouri
River recently, so a lot of stuff going on. You
get that as it occurs, as soon as it comes out.
The blog is out and there's a lot more to
it too. On x Con, which we have every year,
(56:16):
This year we're going back to our roots and doing
it over the internet cheaper. That way, you don't have
to have a hotel room, you don't have to travel,
pay restaurants. My god, I just went on vacation, never
had a meal for under one hundred dollars except one
breakfast of McDonald's. So a lot going on. You can
(56:37):
get advanced notice of the x Con, plus the magazine,
the blog, the newsletter, and a lot more too. So
check all of that out and friends, I'm gonna have
to cut loose here. I can't believe we made it
with the storm outside, but we did good. And again
I want to thank my guests. I want to thank
(56:57):
you all and remind you it is so commer time.
Stay hydrated, uh, stay cool, and I guess The most
important thing I can ask you is stay spooped. Good Night,
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