2 Witnesses Tell us about Arkansas Bigfoot, Hold On!

Ray and Lisa come on to tell us about Bigfoot creatures roaming freely around their property and the realities of the Cryptid in the natural state!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Drypted Creatures.

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Speaker 3 (00:15):
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
I saw like the side of the face.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
The head was kind of like a little bit pointed,
if that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
And then there was the forehead and the nose.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
Oh god, it was kind of like pushed in somewhat.
I know, it seemed like it was wide. It remind
me of a gorilla. The hair was not super long.
I would call it superhand. I mean it was covering
in here for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
Hello, gentlemen, how you guys doing tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Pretty good?

Speaker 5 (01:08):
We're pretty good.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Yeah, Well, Ray and Lisa, thanks for being here with us.
We appreciate it, no problem. So we know that you
guys we were in touch talking a little bit on
social media. And you guys moved into your.

Speaker 7 (01:20):
Place three years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
Three years ago, okay, and then this past summer you
started having some weird things going on around your homestead there.

Speaker 7 (01:30):
What state are you guys in? Can you can you
give us a job? Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:33):
Gotcha a cool north central Arkansas?

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Okay, we can give you the talent, doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (01:39):
Sure if you don't mind.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, prim Arkansas.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Prim Arkansas. Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
We like to document stuff on maps and stuff like that.
So well, again, thanks for being here with us, guys.
Once you just start from when you guys started noticing
stuff happening and what was going on, and.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
Just take us up to present day and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Okay, Well it started this summer of twenty twenty four,
very beginning of summer. Ray and I we like to
sit on the back porch a lot. We've got land
and a lot of dogs, so we spend a lot
of time out there, and we're sitting on the porch
and this real pungent smell came. It was it smelled

(02:19):
like musk and dirty dog and skunk and dead carcass,
just really really stanky. And then all of a sudden
there was this god awful stream. I mean, like we've
never heard our life. And we both look at each
other thinking, well, we both can't be crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
We both heard it.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
It wasn't a bear because it wasn't loud enough, you know,
it wasn't any animal that we know, and we're pretty
good with animal sounds. My parents were hunters and everything.
And we both looked each other and say, okay, we're
just gonna shrug this off.

Speaker 8 (02:56):
You know, it's it is.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
What it is, you know.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
And a few minutes went by, and the smell got stronger,
and it got closer, and then all of a sudden,
another scream went off, and the scream was really close.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
It's in our field, which.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Is how far from our house about.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
We live on three acres and we have about an
acre that's fenced in for our backyard for our dogs,
and then we got about another acre and a half
that is basically given back to you know, the wildlife,
let them roam around do whatever.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
So it was out in what we call our south forty.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
So the second screech went off, and it's like, okay,
this isn't normal.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
What is this.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
It's a bit much, and we're like, okay, we'll sit here.
We're gonna sit here. It's gonna go away. We're gonna
be fine. And the smell got so close that it
made my eyes water almost, it was that strong. And
the scream went off so close. I swear it was
on the side of the house. It was so so close.
And that was that time we went inside. I was like,

(04:02):
we're done. And then we Things were quiet till pretty
much the end of summer, and then on the middle
of January, he went to his workshop to work on
some stuff, and when he was in there, there were
tree knocks and went off and then a scream, and
I was like, okay, here we go again. And that
was in the afternoon. And then that night the dogs

(04:24):
were in the theater room and Ray had left the
theater room to go to do something, and we didn't
have any movie in yet, so it was quiet in
the room and we got awful screams. You could hear
him coming from the field again. I mean, they're just
blood curdling and loud and hard. To call it Godzilla,

(04:45):
that's the best way I can describe it, if that
makes any sense, because it's just so extreme. It's like, Okay,
here we go and this put us very uneasy. I mean,
you know, what is this, What's going on? I mean
our imagination was, you know, like okay, wondering if it

(05:05):
was something like a bigfoot because it wasn't normal. Things
were quiet until about January we had our first snow yep,
and then.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Then I was we have a deer feeder out back
in our south forty that we feed the deer.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
So I was going out there.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Normally I take my mower out, but you can't take
it out there during the snow. So I was feeding
the deer and on my way, I don't know if
it was there back like just on the other side
of our our fence, were these like these giant prints.
I mean, it wasn't deer, it wasn't anything like that.
I mean, it was like really big and it just

(05:45):
you know, it looked like the I don't want to
say the classic bigfoot print, but you could just tell
it wasn't It wasn't somebody in a boot or anything
like that. Because nobody goes on our property gets gated.
We got signs no trespassing or you'll deal with me.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
But so I went back, I took photos of it.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I measured it out and it was just kind of
one of those things at that point where it was like, okay,
we just had our first snow, so it didn't melt
and like expanded.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
It was there.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
You could tell that something had been there. I had
my brother look at it. He's an avid hunter. He
had absolutely no idea what it was. So that was
the first time where I'd actually gotten a print off
a bit.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
I sent that print to two people in our neighborhood
that are hunters and asked him, Hey, you hunted all
your life, do you have any idea.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
What these prints were.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
They both said no, they had no clue. And the
one person had told me that, well, her husband was
out in his yard or property. I guess hunting. He
found Prince as well, and him being a hunter, he
knows Prince, and she said he said the prints were
too what do you call the gate was two for

(07:00):
a human man and the footprints were too white as well.
So around the same time we had Prince, they had Prince.
And then I think a week later she sent me
a picture of a neighbor far behind us that also
had prints in his pasture. So we've got three different
areas it with three different people in the same area

(07:22):
getting prince around the same time. So that was a
little like okay, so I sent the Prince to a
couple of experts.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I sent it to three different experts because.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
We wanted to know, Hey, what is your opinion, you know,
is just just some animal the prince?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
You know, are they messed up?

Speaker 5 (07:40):
And they each came back what they think is a
juvenile bigfoot, three independently, and they gave us the same thing.
It's like, okay, so now we think we know what
we're dealing with. So that was January. I remember the
end of January. While a ghent on the back porch.
We have a wooden fence on the right side of

(08:01):
our property where our workshop is. You could hear heavy footprints,
I mean really super heavy footprints, just walking in the
leaves that are on the ground, and a weird kind
of like whistle, which didn't make any sense. We don't
have people around us. I mean, it's our house and
there's one house way in the back and that's it.

(08:22):
The rest of his fields and just woods. That's all
it is. I mean you have to drive to our
other neighbors. That's just you know, that's Arkansas. So that
was creepy. And then that was the end of January. February,
he found more prints when he went out to the field,
he again took more pictures of those, and we had

(08:44):
more screams.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
We had an incident where we can't we let we
you know, we don't go out a lot, but we
don't have a lot of neighbors. And we left one
day and when we came back, one of our garbage
cans that was empty was flipped on.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
It's flipped over on, it's on its top.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Now, the garbage if the wind did it, I would
understand that, but it's a garbage can with like a
domed top, so you literally would have to take it out,
flip it over yourself, balance it, and then walk away.

Speaker 8 (09:16):
Now we checked. We only have like a few neighbors that.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
We even associate with, and none of them had anything
to do with it. It wasn't a bear because there was
no marks, There was nothing in the garbage can for
the bear to like chow down. It was just an
empty garbage can. So it kind of got us a
little concerned. At that point, we started, you know, we
decided we were going to start buying some lights for

(09:40):
the UH for the perimeter. So we have lights on
the perimeter of our fence. Now we have a big, big,
giant um it's like a work workshop light that is
on our back porch. I lit up my workshop.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
Area and back now so that it's lit up from
like from dark till dusk.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
You know, we don't look. I don't I don't want
to hurt anything. But you know, there's a there's a boundary.
As long as you stay on that field, I'm cool.
You come over that fence. You know, I'm not gonna
let you hurt my dogs. So then Lisa, she had
a sighting a couple days ago.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Well in March, we had the bang on the house.
That's why we reinforced the lights. But they got smart
with the lights on the one side of the fence
where the field was. They started breaking the branches right
by where the lights were, right like here's the light,
and right to the side of the light, they break
the branches and they start doing it all the way
down because we have four motion lights there, and I

(10:40):
think they did it to set up where they know
they shouldn't go past so they don't make the motion
lights go off. I mean, that's my opinion, And I
truly believe.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
That we've got a bunch of chimes out there too
that we put out there to kind of like you know,
I know, noises, not their friend whatever, I don't care,
but a bunch of those have been like knocked down
from the branches. And it's not wind. I mean, I know,
I know what wind does to whatever, and they're like
busted out, and so you know that's just I mean,

(11:12):
I haven't seen any more. We had what was his name,
Caleb Decker, came out a couple about a couple of
weeks ago.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
And he I showed him where, you know, we.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Saw things, and he went out set up a trail,
not a trail came, but it'll pick up audio. And
then he went along our back bob war our fence line,
found some hairs. He's going to come back out and
get those evaluated. But as we're coming back in, we
have a lot of like overgrown brush area, and you
could tell where something had been there, not deer, because

(11:48):
the deer stay over by our deer feuder and our
deer corn. You could tell where those I know where
those guys are all the time. There's a trail going
in and out. I know where they're This was more
back in the deep rush where Lisa had seen something before,
and you could just you could tell something.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
It's not a bear. I mean, it's like it's a
big area and nobody goes back there. So that was
something else that we found there. Tell him about your sighting.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah, Well, the Caleb is he's from what do you
call it, Maywakwak, North American wood Ape Conservative Conservatory Conservatory,
So you know he's doing the investigation. He'll come out
pretty soon and he'll supposedly get the hair sample. He
didn't get it last time because he didn't have the
equipment to get it. And I'm hoping the rain didn't

(12:37):
make it, you know, go away.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Hopefully not.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
But in March I had my first sighting, completely by accident.
I remember I was in the living room. It was
like seven o'clock in the morning, and I was feeding
our puppy and he's boring feeding her puppy, just there waiting.
So I look out our back's glass door and I
see this black mass and it's like, what is that?

(13:03):
It didn't make sense because it was moving and it
was in the field, and it.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Was like, what is this.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
So I got up to the window and I looked
out the you know, the glass window of the door,
and I could see a head and I could see
part of a torso and it wasn't a bear. Most
definitely was not a bear because it was standing up. Yeah,
it was i'd say over seven feet tall. It was

(13:29):
really tall, and I remember its arms were forward, and
then all of a sudden, it's like it took its
step and I couldn't see it anymore. It was just gone,
like with that one step, it was just completely gone.
And I was a little freaked out for a while.
And I think it was pretty quiet and March until

(13:51):
towards the end, and Ry and I were again on
the back porch with the dogs, and we heard in
the field in that same area where we saw the
first siding, we heard this big huff and then a
huge grout and it's like, okay, it was almost like

(14:12):
a salam of a mountain lion, but not exactly, and
you know, it was that that deep, that gruff.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
And it's like okay.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
And then that was most of April, and then just
recently had my second sighting. On April second, I was
on the back porch and I was with the dogs,
and I kept noticing something to the side that kept
getting my eye, and it was to the left side
of the field. So I got up to check it out,

(14:41):
and I saw the whole thing. I saw the head,
I saw the torso, I saw the arms, I saw
the legs, and then it turned and it started taking
steps to the right, and I could see the swing
of the arms and the wide spread of the gate.
It would probably take me at least three steps to

(15:03):
do one step that it did. It was just, I mean,
mind blowing in my opinion, and I grabbed the dogs
and we ran inside.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
I'm not good, so.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I went out back, took my shotgun, went out back
to my woodshop area because you can access that area
through there. I got about probably about fifty feet in
and you could just smell. You know, we don't our septics,
not out there or anything.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
It was real.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
It was the same smell we smelled before. And I'm like, well, probably,
I don't think I want to go any further. Came
back in. We sat out on the porch for a
little while. The smell kick it kicked in again, so
I grabbed my shotgun. I walked out to the fence line,
and the smell got strong. I mean it was like
right there and I could hear growling.

Speaker 8 (15:57):
But I couldn't see anything.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
I mean, honestly, maybe it's the the grass. I mow
it ten feet back from our fence. After that it's wild,
so it's.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
You know, six seven foot tall.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Honestly, that thing whatever was out there couldn't have been
more than twenty five feet from where I was. I mean,
I just wouldn't have heard it that that close. And
then I said, Okay, well, I don't want to provoke anything,
so I'll just you know, hopefully Caleb will get that
I called out to his camera, so hopefully he can
mark the time in the day and hopefully they can

(16:35):
get something on the quarter. And that's that's pretty much
where we're at right now. I think we think part
of the probably part of the problem is we're in
a uh there's other people around here that have that
have had encounters, and we're in like a corridor where
it's really woody, it's a deeper holler. There's water supply,
there's food because we allow the deer to come here.

(16:56):
The first two summers that we were here, I mowed
that entire area down by bush hooged it because you know,
it was my land. But after that we decided to
give it back, and that's when that's when everything started
to happen. Because I'm assuming, well, it's a nice area
to hang out. I'm assuming that's what that's what happened.
So that's that's kind of hope that we talked too much,

(17:17):
but it brings you.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Up to speed.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
I had made a mistake in January after the footprints.

Speaker 8 (17:23):
I was a little.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Worried, what you know, because everyone around her hunts except
for us. We're we don't hunt, you know, which we
have no problem with hunters, it's just it's not our thing.
And so I in our local Facebook page, I had
put you know, what our experience was going on is
ID take this however you want. This is what's been
happening to us.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Now.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
I'm just saying, just you know, if you're going out
in the woods, don't go alone, or just you know,
be aware. The feedback I got was rude, cruel, insulting,
you know, demeaning. But the same time, I would get
private messages from people in our town that were saying,

(18:07):
I'm so glad someone spoke up. This happened to me.
Then this happened here. We had one gentleman show up
at our door.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Never met him in our life.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
I don't know how he found us because I didn't
give out our dress or anything.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I guess the gossip now.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
And he came over and he told us about his
experiences on what.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Was going on.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
I had another gentleman which is in our town. He
reached out and told me about the encounters they're having
at a creek nearby where the.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Creatures are throwing rocks at people.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
And he says it's so scary people won't stay there.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
They just won't stay.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
They won't stay overnight. They just they won't even go
there to that area. And on his land, which isn't
too far from us, it kind of connects one way
or another. He has a nest and he also here's
the screaming and the howling, and he had two dogs
go missing. So you know, they've shown some aggression there.

(19:08):
But on our property they haven't shown any aggression so far.
I mean, we try to keep the peace.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
That that helps.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Now we're trying our best, I mean, redo everything. At night,
we have to have our curtains closed, the blinds closed,
the lights have to be on as soon as it's dark.
You don't go out on the property without a gun.
I mean, just in case you just never know. I mean,
it's really changed the way we.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Have to live here.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
Not that we're moving. No, we'll never move. No, we're
not going to move. Like I said, just if they
want the back area, it's theirs to have taken. No
problem with that. But yeah, like I said, I think
we're just in a corridor and that's fine.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Now, the gentleman that had two dogs go missing, it
didn't help that they were shooting off rounds at and
putting out traps for them, so that obviously didn't help
the situation, and he's volunteered to come out and set
traps and give it.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
I'm like, no, not going to do that.

Speaker 8 (20:05):
That's just that, you.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Know, if you're going to egg a problem on, you
want problems, and I don't. I don't want to be
the first person in history that after shoot a big foot.
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
So we just want to live in peace.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, you know, we just.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Love to say our family safe and.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
As long as they stay on the on their side
of the fence, everything will be fine as long as
you don't try and like set traps or try and
provoke him in the way you guys should be fine.
I mean it sounds like you're doing everything right.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
We're trying to you know.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
They come up to the fence. That's where we found
the footprints, and that was very overwhelming at first. But
they they did knock on the house the one time
that really that really to me was a big invasion.

Speaker 8 (20:53):
But we couldn't find anything outside either.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
And it's muddy under our you know, it's not a sidewalk,
it's not cement. Right again, it's our house. So I
couldn't find any like tracks or anything. I'm not a hunter,
but I know difference between a beer, you know, deer
and rabbit.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
And it was a loud, hard, I mean, it shook
the room kind of thing. And so we installed spotlights
on top of the motion lights. Is it's like, I look,
as long as they stay out of the air, we
have lit up, okay, you know, and if as long
as you don't hurt My animals were good. And it's
funny when the dogs and we should have paid attention

(21:31):
more because we didn't know. Because there's times you feel
like there's something out there and you feel like you're
being watched, if that makes any sense. You just you can,
you just feel it, and the dogs will go and
just stare out in the field and not make a
noise I mean not, I mean dead silent, and then
they'll come running on the porch demanding to come in

(21:51):
because they're scared to death.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Now now we have a we have a trail cam
out there for the deer feeder because we like watching
the deer. And when the deer out there, yeah, the
dogs go crazy, you think. So we know when the
deer are out there, but when they're out there on
the fence line just staring into nothing, which is pretty
much the same place at least I've seen them all
the time before. Then yeah, you know, like I said that,
one time I went out there and heard the growling.

(22:13):
You know, you got the hairs on the back of
your neck, and that's your that's there for a reason.
If you ignore it, you know, that's that's your intuition saying, hey,
something's not right here. So that's kind of where we're
at right now as far as everything that's going on.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
I'm hoping not to see them again.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
No, you know, if I want to to be quite honest, So.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
I'm looking on I'm looking on the map here of
where prim is, and yeah, I can definitely understand, uh,
why you guys have activity there. You've got a huge
water system south of you, guys, you know, looks like
some river systems.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
Running through your area, and you guys are just in some.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Wooded hilly area right there, I mean, just in the
middle of it. Do you think this was the same
creature that was coming back and bothering you guys or
bothering your papers? Do you think there's like a group
of these things.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I think there's more than one, because that same day,
the one took off to the left and down and
then over to the right, and then within an hour
Ray was in the field and there was one growling.
I don't think that could be the same one at
the same because one went in one direction and then
one was you know, one was left and one was right.

(23:27):
So I believe there's more than one, maybe a group.
Some of the experts I talked to, they believe it's
a group. You know, they're the ones that you know,
told us the safety precautions what we should and shouldn't do, and.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It has helped.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
It's nice the validation that other people in our town
and the town next door are having, sadly to say,
the same issues. Sightings, rocks, throwing, the screaming, the nest.
I mean, there's a lot of stories, and it's nice
that they don't want to come through to public, but

(24:04):
they'll come through to us, and they're willing to share
their stories with our investigator, so he's supposed to reach
out to them too. Because the two people have lived
in these towns their entire life, so they know a
lot of the history going back quite a way. So
we were told, like the one who lives behind us,
she's I guess lived there over forty five years. Forty

(24:28):
five years ago she had some kind of incident with
the screaming and stuff like that. So it's not something new,
it's something that's just continuing, you know. Like I said,
as long as they don't hurt us and I don't
want to see them again.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
So have you have you noticed a difference in activity
with the changing of the seasons, you know what I mean?
Is it more active in the fall or the spring?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
It was more active in the summer, and then after
this last rainstorm we had, it got then that's when
all the things happened. So maybe it did push them
around because there was a lot more water. I mean
we got like, gosh, we got thirteen inches of rain
and the winds. So the winter not a lot other

(25:21):
than the one sighting October December.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
And I think it's because we had a we had
tons of Christmas lights out. We didn't have any activity,
but I mean we lit up the whole area, so
I think that might have deterred them at the time.
But as soon as those lights were down, it started
and it has itself.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah, it just it's just continuing.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
I mean, you just never know. I mean we could
go a couple of weeks and it's quiet, and then
sometimes it's like day after day after day.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
We just never know.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Yeah, you know, I keep a diary because I want
to keep track of everything, and oh sure, I've got
three or four pages of things. I mean, we're just
covering some of it. But I mean it's just the screaming.
I mean that's just something you can't forget. And then
now seeing them, especially seeing the whole body and how

(26:16):
white does arms swaning or her I don't know, you
know how big the arms swang and the gate of
the step, and it didn't seem aggressive. It just seemed
like it was doing his thing. But it was also
very quick at the same time. It's not like it
was minutes it was it was seconds.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
It was just like.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Gone.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
I mean the air covered over steven foot. Yeah, they're tall.
I mean to see it through.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
All the.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
Rush.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
And you have to be tall because I remember when
the investigator my husband went out to the field where
I saw it, I would thinking it was maybe six
foot tall, but when they're out in the field, I
could barely see their heads over the brush, right, So
it's like, oh no, that was over seven foot for sure.

(27:10):
And it was next to the bar and he said, yeah,
well that barn's twelve foot, so yeah, it would be
you know, seven foot or more.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
And that fence that where the hair is it's about
I say, it's a three and a half foot barbed
wire fence. So I mean it's not like you can
just step over as a human or whatever step over
it one dear, So you'd have to have a pretty
big gate to step over that fence.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
And the investigator said if it was a bear, the bear,
because it's not a it's like a cattle fence there.
So he said, if it's a bear, the bear would
have just bawled right through it, you know, just went
right through it. And the hair was on the top
area of the fence wire, not down below. So it's
no way it's a dog, coyote or anything like that.
That's impossible. And there's no cattles in that pack in

(27:58):
that pasture. He and like you said, if it was
a bear, they could have just gotten right through there,
no problem.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, so that's where we are, yeah, pretty.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Much, Lisa. How far away was the creature that you saw?
Do you think.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
The first time, what would you say from from our
porch to oh god, I got born?

Speaker 8 (28:21):
One hundred yards maybe? Okay? The second time, I don't know, because.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Maybe maybe a little bit more than that.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Okay, at the most, I mean it's it's far, but
still close enough where you can, Like the first time
I could make up the hair. It was dark, I
could make out the neck or well the head lack
of neck I think, and the torso. And the second time, honestly,
it looked like a big gorilla.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
If that makes any sense. But it was standing upright, No,
and it was.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
It wasn't fat, it was i'd say, not lean in
the middle, muscular. You know it looked I mean for
what I could tell even from the distance that it
was a healthy creature.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
The dead bog, the dad body.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
I know you don't think it had to tell me.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
So, Ray, have you ever thought about mowing that area
down again? Maybe keep these creatures away from your home?

Speaker 8 (29:24):
I mo from our back fence.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I mo about I'm about ten to fifteen feet in
just to because we used to live in California, for
a fire break, just in case, and.

Speaker 8 (29:37):
Snakes and snakes.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
But to mow it all down again, I don't want
to because the deer feed on our land and I'm
cool with that.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
Plus I'm not jacking out my mower.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
The first couple of times I was out there, the
people that lived here before, I don't know if they
they I felt like they were setting traps for me.
It's stuff and just it would tear my mower up,
and I flipped my mower once because I didn't see
a creek that was there, and now at all the rain,
I don't even know the landscape back there before I
knew it, and I had a map and I knew

(30:11):
where I could go.

Speaker 8 (30:13):
No, No, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Besides, you know, like I said, if it stays out there,
I'm okay with it.

Speaker 8 (30:20):
I got no problem with that.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
But yeah, no, I'm not gonna unless I have to.
I probably don't want to do that. Plus we have
we got some new leach lines for our septic and
I don't know where those go, and I don't want
to be running over stuff from the leach lines before.

Speaker 8 (30:36):
So I'm just gonna leave it the way it is.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
So yeah, I'm probably not unless it's an absolute necessity,
would I do.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
It at Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Plus it's the only area the animals can come and
they know that there's no hunting and they know that
they're saved. So because when we feel the deer feeder,
you'll put what a fifty pould bag in there, It's
gone in two days.

Speaker 8 (30:55):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
So we got we got a lot, a lot of deer,
and that's what we know.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
We felt that we needed to give back to nature.
I just didn't know we were going to give.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
That much back.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Did you say, you like the deer may not be
the only ones eating that.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah, do you have a camera on that deer feet
or you said, or no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
We've never seen them on the camera there.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
We were told by the experts they will avoid infrared cameras.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
And we only have one.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
We did move it once and it was weird. It
would go off.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
We didn't see anything.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
We couldn't see anything in the picture. When we moved it.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
We pointed it toward the area where the footprints were
and it would because it's motion sense and it'll you know,
go off certain and it went off, but there's like
nothing nothing there. So yeah, I mean, unless I want
to invest in a non infra red camera, which I
probably don't really want to.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
No, nothing, I mean, we all it's just deer.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
And I even put it there and then turned it
into the haller but nothing there.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Yeah, we just it just hasn't picked up. If it
would have picked up something, trust me, that would appreached me.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, but that was weird because it would go off
and you couldn't see anything at all. But then why
is it going on? Something motioned it to go off.
Nothing on the ground, nothing that we could see around it.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
It was just the area.

Speaker 8 (32:15):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
So that was kind of weird.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Lisa, you mentioned that when you saw that creature, it
took like one, two, three steps.

Speaker 7 (32:22):
And it was just gone.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
When you say it was just gone, do you mean
it just disappeared into the tree line or you just
couldn't see it anymore.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
I couldn't see anywhere because it went deeper into the
tree line.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
It went from an area where it was pretty clear,
and then it got deeper into the trees.

Speaker 7 (32:39):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
I was just wondering if it maybe just kind of
vanished for some time.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Oh no, oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
No, No, it's just even though it wasn't running, it
was just what I could tell walking. The steps were
just so big. He took up so much, so much
space so quickly, And it was like by the time
I got up from my seat, he had already gone
straight and turned right. And it's like, well, you know,
I know I'm slow, but I'm not that slow. And

(33:07):
and then it was a couple more steps and then
he was in the tree line where I couldn't see
him at all.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yeah, that area is uh, they don't mow that down.
I don't. I'm not even sure if that's anybody's land.
We haven't I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
They used to have an old platform on there years ago,
but that was taken down for we came here. There's
a pond out there and uh so that's a water supply.
But nobody's even gone, I mean not since we've been here.
Has anybody you've been in that land?

Speaker 5 (33:36):
I think it's for sale. I mean around us is
just land. I mean we got land to the left
of us. Land behind us across the street is all pasture,
I mean god as far as I can see, ye,
and then a farm attached to it further down and
this way you can't see the house. But there's a
house down the street. But it's not like you can

(33:57):
see your neighbors there. They're here that they're not close.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
Yeah, if you guys weren't so far away, like eleven hours,
I think Briana, come down there and do a little
camping around your area. Very maybe maybe one one day
we will, if we had enough time.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
In the weekend, we could do it. But that's a
little a little.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Bit of.

Speaker 8 (34:20):
Yep, you guys can do that. I just will not
be out there.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
No. Ray, you seem like you seem like you're irritated
by these creatures.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
Do they no no no or no no no no.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I look, I'm a I used to be a marine,
I'm a former cop.

Speaker 8 (34:36):
It doesn't it doesn't bug me.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
It's one of those things where it's you know, I
used to be a detective. So I try to. I
look at the situation. I said, Okay, can it be this?
Can it be this? Can it be?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
This?

Speaker 8 (34:50):
Can be this?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
And I've gone through everything, and at the end of
the day, well can it be this? Well it could
be big, but just as much as it could be this.
So no, I'm not bugged by I just I grew
up believing in Bigfoot my entire life. I watched Boggy
Creek when I was a kid, and, like it says
in the movie, scared me then, and it scares me now.
That sound in that movie, Yeah that's that little kid

(35:14):
running through the field on the fence. Yeah that's exactly
what it feels like now. So and I know that's
in southern Arkansas, down by Foul. So I've always like
had a fascination for Bigfoot. I just I'm not sure,
to be quite honest with you, if I want to
see it. I'm like, do I want to be blissfully
ignorant or do I want to see it and go,

(35:34):
oh crap. Now I can't sleep at night because I
have a bad imagination that will just run wild with it.
So no, it doesn't irritate me. It bothers me that
sometimes it bothers my wife. But no, no it's not
a big deal. Like I said, as long as you
don't cross that mounding, I'm good to go. And then
once you do, you know, we'll deal with it accordingly.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
It took time to adjust to it. I mean it
was super scary in the I mean really super scary
in the beginning. And you know, now we're just I guess,
accepting as best we can and just trying to trying
to coexist as best as we can, because that's a fact.
You know, this is nature and they have a right

(36:16):
is just as much as we have a right to
be here.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
Sure, we've got rules, and as long as we follow
them we should be okay.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
And like I said, it sounds like it sounds like
you guys are doing everything right. So hopefully there's no
reason why you can't peacefully you know.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
Yeah, I got no problem with that. I don't want to.
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I don't want to see it it hurt or captured
or anything like that. I mean, I mean that, you know,
at some point, I'm sure one will be, you know,
just I don't want to have to. We had one
investigator came out here and the only thing that turned
me off about him is he's like, well, yeah, I'll
shoot one if if I can. I'm like, yeah, but

(36:59):
if if you're a if you're a bigfoot investigator, why
would you do that? I mean because you talk about proof. Yeah,
he was talking about one time they had a sighting
and they followed it through and they were trying to,
you know, shoot it. And I'm like, okay, but isn't
that like going against what you should be doing because
they're conservatives, conservatory, You're you're you're supposed to study it

(37:20):
and you know, help it if you whatever.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
But I'm like, I'm not going to shoot it if
I don't have. If I have to, yeah, i.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Will, and I'll sleep like a baby, But I'm not
gonna I'm not going to go actively go out there
and try to hurt something that's if it's not bugging me,
I'm gonna let it go.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
It just is what it is.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
Yeah, People think that they can shoot one of these
creatures and bring it to science.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
But that's not what's going to happen.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
If if anyone shoots one of these creatures and tries
to bring it forward, the government's going to come in.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
Take this thing like it has in the past and
leave me.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
People have shot these things before, but yeah, that's that's
not feasible to do.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
I mean, at the least, if you.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
Were happening to be able to shoot and kill a bigfoot,
maybe like try to take a couple of samples and
some pictures and then don't say nothing to anybody because
since you do, you're going to be hushed.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
So but it's kind of weird.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
You guys were talking about those cameras, and I've heard
about how these things can do this the cloaking thing.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
Have you heard about that.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
I don't know if you guys here on that kind
of side of things, but they have this ability to
shimmer and change their frequency. Have you guys seen how
like they're coming out with these hunting blinds that are
just like it it looks like you're not there. It's
like a mirror.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah, I have seen those on the interet like active.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Came Yeah, So that's what the concept is of the cloaking,
that that these creatures have the ability to do that
and remain hidden. So that's maybe why people just you
can't find them. But I wonder if they can do
that knowing round. They've got to have some idea of
cameras and lights obviously, right, So I wonder if they're

(39:06):
able to do that. You guys said something went off
but there was nothing there.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
There was nothing there.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
Ye maybe it was maybe they use was cloaked.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
I don't know, I'm just reaching, you know, but before.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
It went off more than one time, right, and it's like, well,
we're not picking anything up there, so William as well
just put it back on the deer.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
No. I mean a lot of creatures have, for lack
of a better term, their own defenses to active camouflage,
call it what you want.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
You know, lizards turned certain colors.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
So I mean, if if it's a species we've never
captured before, documented or.

Speaker 8 (39:42):
Whatever, we don't really know what it's capable.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
I mean, it could be capable of this stuff and
we won't know until you know, somebody figures it out.
So yeah, active camouflage like they do with stealth fighters
different but you know, same along the same pro and
with that, so it wouldn't surprise me, which would explain
why I'm out there with my shotgun and I could
hear it, but I can't see it. And I got glasses,

(40:09):
but I can see pretty good when I need to,
and I literally.

Speaker 8 (40:15):
Could not see anything.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
And I was out there for at least a good
five minutes, just holding my ground, looking, just watching the wind,
and it was there.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
I knew it was there.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I could have thrown a stone at whatever it was,
but I couldn't, just couldn't see it. So maybe, yeah,
that wouldn't surprise me if it was something like that,
which would explain why nobody hasn't seen them before or has.

Speaker 8 (40:36):
But it's been really limited.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
There's a lot of reports.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
I mean, I honestly feel if people are honest and
tell their stories that then the people that are afraid
to come forward will come forward and this way we.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Learn more about them.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
It took a lot for us to say anything to anyone,
it really did.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
It took months.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
I mean, we didn't really say anything till January, and
this started the previous you know, in the summer, and
we've got a few friends that you know, they think
we're looney tunes. Now it's like, well that's your choice,
you know. And I know some people think we're a joke,
but that other people know, well you know, I you know,
I've been there, I know what that I've had that

(41:18):
same experience and this is what happened to me. So
it's validating when you have people have similar experiences and
they're genuine and they're real. I mean, there's something there.
I mean we smelled it, we heard it, and we
saw it. Nobody there's hair. They're they're going to analyze,

(41:40):
you know, So it's not something that's not there. It's
there percent. We had the footprints three different occasions. I
mean we have evidence. You know, we have proof.

Speaker 8 (41:54):
It's good things.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I mean, look there's stuff out there, Like I said,
Area fifty one UFOs, they're all out there, and yeah,
the government's going to keep it quiet until they don't.
So yeah, it's no more unbelievable than you know, unidentified
flying objects stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (42:11):
It's all the same.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
So and you talk about credibility, and before we started
the show, Ray, I did not know that you were
military or police, but I did kind of peg you
for military when we started talking, and thank you for
your service. But we'd love to have guys like you
on the show because your credibility is way up there.

(42:35):
I mean, being a detective and all that. I mean,
it's not like you're just some looney tune out there
just you know, a preaching them about bigfoot. You know,
you've had some serious things going on in your lifetime
and you've had to be a serious dude, and so
we like to have that on the show as well.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
So we appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
I've been up by as far as I can tell you,
I've been up by Area fifty one before doing military Option.
I can't tell you any because you signed that. You
sign that agreement and that's it. You can't say anything
about it. It's like a lifetime thing. The security briefing
you go through there to get in there is nothing

(43:15):
like you've ever done before, and they make it crystal
clear you say anything about what you saw there will
be you know, pretty much hell to pay. So I've
been up there and I've seen things. I can't talk
about it, but it's you're right.

Speaker 8 (43:28):
The government if they have to step in, they will.
We just we just you know, we want to live
in peace with the creature self.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
It is what it is, Lisa, do you want to
see another one?

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Then?

Speaker 8 (43:40):
Now she does. She was in tears. She was crying
in tears. She was so scared. And my wife, don't
cry for nothing, She'll punch me.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
And the would you say, would you say it looked
more in the face would you say it was more
gorilla is or more more human?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
More?

Speaker 5 (43:59):
I only saw like the side of the face, but
the head was kind of like a little bit pointed,
if that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
And then there was the forehead and the nose.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
Oh god, it was kind of like pushed in somewhat,
if that makes sense. And I know it seemed like
it was wide, that's.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
About you know.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
It remind me of a gorilla, but at the same
time a little different kind of human neanderthal, Yeah, exactly.
And like I said, it was tall, it was not.
It was not large. It was a little less than
a dad bod, you know. But it looked healthy.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
But and I know it was dark in color.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
I couldn't tell you if it was the exact color
because it was you know, the area and everything in
the trees and everything was kind of shading in a bit,
but I know it was dark.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
It's either dark brown or or some kind of brown.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
I don't think it it was black. I'm pretty sure
it was in the brownish in the brownish colors. Just
can't tell you exactly the shade.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
The hair was not super long, you know, it.

Speaker 8 (45:14):
That length.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Kind of like in the middle.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
It wasn't like I would I would call it super hair.
I mean it was covering in hair for sure, but
it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Like hanging long.

Speaker 8 (45:25):
I mean it was.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Close to the Yeah, it wasn't shaggy, that's the best
way of putting it.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
And I couldn't really tell you about the feet because
it was walking to best, you know, I know it
was walking. I mean I I could see it, you know,
all the way back. I couldn't see the feet because
of the brush and everything like that. But like I said,
the gate was really really wide.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
I mean it was impressive.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Because at least it would have taken me at least
three steps to do that one step easily. There's no
I would have ever been able to keep up with it.
I don't think you would have either, And you're a runner.

Speaker 8 (46:00):
I don't want to run out there.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
We don't go out in the field. I mean when
he goes out in the field to do the deer
the deer corn, he carries a gun and I watched
the porch, you know, I stay on the porch and
I watch just to make sure.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
I mean, we just want to be safe, that's all.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
And usually, like I said, he usually takes the the
zero point lawn mower out there because it's a haul
just to take the you know, the pountain the big
bag of deer corn out there, so it's easier to
take it that way. Just that one time he walked
out there. Of course he had to find the footprints.

Speaker 8 (46:35):
Good job, didn't want to.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
Did you guys take any pictures of these footprints by chance?

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (46:43):
Yes, I have them.

Speaker 7 (46:45):
Are you going to share with us these footprint?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (46:48):
Yeah, I can the email you sent me, I can.
I can email them to those if.

Speaker 7 (46:53):
You want please do.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
You can post them on on our group page on
Facebook and everywhere else when we release this episode, if
you guys are cool with that.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Ye yeah, Like I can do that first thing tomorrow
when I get back. They're on my They're on my
home computer, so I got that's fine.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
That's fine.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
Yeah I can. I can shoot those over tomorrow whatever
I have.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
Cool. So, Ray, I know you mentioned this earlier.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
You were kind of talking a little bit you weren't sure,
But do you want to see one?

Speaker 7 (47:18):
I think you want to see one, don't you?

Speaker 8 (47:21):
Yeah? Yeah? Probably?

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, yeah. Just just look and don't take this the
wrong way.

Speaker 8 (47:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I'm not saying you're crazy, and I'm not saying you
didn't see anything, but you know, it would kind of
be like, oh, okay, now I know what I'm dealing with.

Speaker 8 (47:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably. Honestly, I probably won't sleep
that night. I didn't, but uh yeah, yeah I do.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Just to you know, like I said, he's a detective,
so you know, you got evidence, evidence, evidence, evidence evidence.
Once you see it, it's like, okay, well you can't
explain that away. There's you know, I know what a
bear looks like, and I you know, yeah, yeah, do
I want to see it?

Speaker 8 (48:02):
Yeah yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be the worst thing
in the world.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
But once you see it, you cannot see it.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah you can't, So your chances are pretty good.

Speaker 8 (48:12):
I keep looking every time I go out there, I'm looking,
I'm looking, I'm like, just just pop your head up
one time just so I can see you, and then you.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Know it's going to be one time when you don't
expect it, then it's yeah, right in front of your face.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
And the weird thing is I don't want to see
it again because I've already seen it twice now, But
at the same time, I keep looking. Yeah, I don't
know why, but I still keep looking even though I
don't want to see it.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
I do.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
We're sitting out there on the back porch today, probably, Yeah,
we're sitting on the back porch day. For probably I
was building a fence on my on my back porch
and after that I was sitting out there and we
were sitting there for thirty minutes and all we were
doing is just looking.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
At We're talking me crazy out there.

Speaker 8 (48:57):
Yeah, you kept looking and I didn't see anything. We
can't foculo.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
I lost them. They're somewhere in the house.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
It's because you guys know they're out there. You know
they're out there, and that's what we're looking all the time.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
Someone just kept catching my eye to I and I
kept looking and I couldn't find anything, but he kept
driving me crazy. It's like Okay, you know it's just
your you know, your imagination, you know, because if I
can't prove what I see, then I won't believe what
I see, if that makes any sense. Like I had
to make sure when I saw that first sighting that

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I knew what I was seeing was real and it
was happening.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
And then the verification of the hair and.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
The trail there's a trail where it was too, and
then where I guess it lays down.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
I think it watches our house.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Surprised me. So that was validation for the first one.
Now the second one, the investigator he had us mark
on a map, a map so he can track the
second the second siding. So I don't know when he
comes back and he's going to go out in that area,
it's still in the field, but it's just in a
different section of the field. Yeah, I don't think it's

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on a property, And I know that they go through
our property, and I know they go on to the
pasture across the street from us, because I'm told by
a source that the farmer and that property is having
strange occurrences happen.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
But I don't know if you'll I think.

Speaker 6 (50:25):
So so so here Ray, here's what you need to do,
especially if you guys are seeing one like laying down
and it's watching your house.

Speaker 7 (50:33):
Cut those lights off at night.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
Maybe maybe one night, see what happens the next night.
Sneak out there, rut them off, hang out on your roof,
hang out somewhere right, do stuff mod Go go into that,
Go into that situation right like back in the day,
and uh wait and see if these things come up
and have a flashlight and just pop them with it.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
See.

Speaker 8 (50:57):
I thought about doing that.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I thought about going up on the roof one night
and just sitting out there and seeing what I can see.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
It's not a bad We're putting the tent on the porch.

Speaker 8 (51:09):
Yeah, I could do that.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
We have a porch so we don't have a roof
on it, So we're going to put a tent on
the porch so we could sit in it, you know,
so the bugs don't bite us.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Maybe he could go on the tent on the porch.

Speaker 8 (51:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (51:23):
I mean, I think these things are really intelligent creatures.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
Like you guys were saying.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
That where the light line is, they know, and I
guarantee you if there weren't no lights there, they probably
come up smackling your house?

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Can you turn off the motion lights? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (51:37):
I think if you're got to do it, I wonder
we have.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Just run a light switch to the inside of the
house to the big spot lights, keep them off right
until you hear something out there, and then blast them
all on real quick, and see if that'd be able to.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
You're smaller the I can, I can, I can turn Okay,
yeah I can because the ones in the yard they're solar.

Speaker 8 (52:03):
But I can turn them off.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Okay, well that would work. And then the one on port, Yeah,
that's plugged in, so now that lights the whole.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Now, if I do this and I see something I
lose my mind, I'm gonna call you on it. I'm
gonna say, hey, see.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
Now I have Yeah, then we have episode number two
with you guys.

Speaker 8 (52:21):
Yeah, I'll be yeah, and then i'll be part two.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
Yeah, I'll be happy through it.

Speaker 7 (52:26):
Ray, don't worry.

Speaker 8 (52:28):
We'll start drinking.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
You're heavily.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
We actually might actually come down there at that point.
You never know.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
You're welcome anytime.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Seriously, you're welcome anytime.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
And there's a lot of land out here. I'm sure
there are people out here that you know that that
would that would love to. I'm sure there's a lot
of people that don't because they don't want the stigma
that goes with it.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
They get it, there's definitely a stigma.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Yeah, Arkansas is it's a different kind of people than
you know, California or whatever.

Speaker 8 (52:56):
They're more you know, kept to themselves. I get it.
I'm I'm not judging on that, but that's yeah, I could.
I could probably do that here this weekend, next weekend,
one of these I.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
Don't know, you don't have to. I was just making
a suggestion. I wonder that I would kind of lay
a little that maybe do it a day or two.
You might you might have some slaps on your house.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
You might not.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
I don't know, but I feel like the lights burn out,
trick them a little bit. These things are smart. But
you know you've been you can do this stuff, right,
I believe you know.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
I think maybe I'm gonna wait till it gets a
little warmer, okay, because it's like we had the we
had the uh, the issues.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
When it started, it was eighty today.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
So once it starts getting a lot warmer and everything
starts like, you know, growing again, Wait.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Hold on, you said it was eighty and then you
said once it starts getting warmer and things start growing again.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
On a steady I think he's on a steady basis.

Speaker 8 (53:55):
Yeah, it gets warmer than eighty year. Oh yeah it does.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
It was only supposed to be seventy and it popped
up on the the moment.

Speaker 7 (54:04):
What's your what's your winters?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Like?

Speaker 6 (54:06):
What what's it like in January fifteenth? What kind of
tempts you guys? Get down there?

Speaker 8 (54:11):
Yeah, we're we're in the twenty thirties, are you really?

Speaker 7 (54:14):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (54:14):
Yeah, we got snow. We have snow like once, yeah,
once or twice a year. We'll get up you know,
we got this year. I think we are like eight
inches a wild difference.

Speaker 7 (54:25):
Yeah, that's more than we got up here.

Speaker 8 (54:27):
That's yeah, we get that.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
We see we're in north central so we're in a
higher elevation really, but higher than some of the lower areas.
So we get the snow and like once or twice
a year, you know, six eight.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
So so the the lake system, the river system south
of you, guys, is that lower than your elevation?

Speaker 7 (54:50):
Okay, gotcha? Okay, so stuff's running down the stream.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Okay, Yeah, we're in your fairfield Day and Ferry and
Hebrew Springs.

Speaker 8 (54:58):
Yeah. You huge like water are in our area. Yeah,
it's like one of the.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Bigger lakes, and everything like flows in and out of that.
So all the creeks like Ramford Creek over here, in
the pond over here, and there's another creek here.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
There's so many ponds.

Speaker 8 (55:13):
Yeah, God, and all.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
This stuff flow in and out of that. Our neighbors
have a creek. It runs along the backside of their
property that they go hunting on.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, there's Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot
of waterways and a lot of food.

Speaker 8 (55:28):
You got deer all the time, deer, the deer, all
that stuff. Rabbits.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
We had a mountain lion recently.

Speaker 8 (55:41):
Yeah, and I don't think I don't know.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
I don't think they got it though.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Yeah, we had, we got foxes, had bear before bear.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
So, I mean there's a lot of wildlife out here.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Yeah, mountains so comes with the.

Speaker 8 (55:56):
Territory around.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Be an advantage. I mean they could they could scare
off the other predators.

Speaker 8 (56:05):
Yeah, you know, you.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Know they're there. I feel comfortable when I can hear
the frogs at night, I feel safe. But when it
gets dead silent during the day or especially at night,
when the frogs stop, I.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Know they're there. I just know it. I know because
they go dead silent, and they do.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
I mean you you could hear a pin drop outside,
and that's when you just know they're out there.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
You just know it.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
And it's hard for us to hear because when we
go to bed, we put our fan on at night
so we can't hear outside.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
But before we go to bed, I you know, before
he comes to bed. Sometimes I won't have a fan.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
On because I like to hear the frogs and the
crickets and stuff. But when it goes dead silent, that's
when you just know.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
You just know they're they're out there. Yeah, definitely, and
we got a lot of frogs out of here.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Ray and Lisa, we want to thank you guys so
much much for being on the shoulder night. You guys,
great experiences and stories you guys you have there and uh,
we definitely probably want to bring you back on sometime
down the road. And if you guys see or hear
anything in the meantime, get ahold of us.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Keep in touch, let us know what's going on.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Okay, and if your neighbors want to want to talk
about some stuff and come on and it helps get
them up, get it off their chest, you know, let
them know we're here as well.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
I would like to.

Speaker 8 (57:27):
Yeah, we'll ask them. I'll send you those pictures.

Speaker 7 (57:29):
Okay, sounds good man.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
We'll put give our email too and just tell them
to we'll talk to them.

Speaker 7 (57:36):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
All right, cool, all right, you guys, nice y'all you too. Thanks,
stay so much down there, and good luck with with
what's going on, and we hope to hear back from
you soon.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
I hope you guys do good on your podcast.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
Thank you, Ray at Last, appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (57:51):
Take care, sir.

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