A New NOPD HQ, S&WB Changes, Election '24 & Easter

Hy and Christopher reflect on the legacy of Joseph Lieberman, ‘No Labels’, and the increasingly bright chances for RFK Jr.— in part due to his new VP running mate.

In the second segment, we answer questions debating New Orleans investing in a new NOPD HQ as well as Gov. Jeff Landry’s hope to reduce local representation on the S&WB to just three members.

Concluding with a special Easter segment, we tell the story of Russian Gulag being rebuilt as a church— only to find out that the prayers of the original inmates foretold that destiny decades before.

Episode Transcript

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Battles, the politicians addressed, thedigitators and magicians. Trust to see the
money, then you don't. There'snothing to fill the holes while they are
feeling their pockets. Biles the politiciansbouncing down the road. Every body'sition,

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no moment, corruption and dysfunction.It's gone to date, Divide it avention.
Senator Joe Lieberman's death takes away acertain civility and politics, but also
creates a hole for the No Labelsorganization at the same week that RFK puts
a vice presidential candidate in the mix, and the Biden administration is worried and

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so is Trump. Also some majorquestions about where to put the NPD and
what to do with the buildings,and lastly, some developments on the sewage
and water board and other issues,and a little special Easter message from Russia
and the creation of a church.Prayers do get answered. All this and
more on this edition of The Founder'sShow, And God bless you all out
there. You are now listening tothe Founders, So the voice of the

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Founding Fathers coming to you deep withinthe bowels of those mystic and cryptic alligator
swamps of the Big Easy that oldCrescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana,
And high up on top of thatold Liberty cypress tree draped and Spanish moss
way out on the Eagles Branch,is none other than your spingary Baba of

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the Republic, Chaplain Hi mcenry.With Christopher Tidmore. You wrote a reporter,
resident, radical, moderate and associateeditor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at
Louisiana Weekly dot net. And alittle special thing that happened Louisiana Weekly.
We'll talk about in just a coupleof minutes about a story that he and
I also talked about with the NPDa couple weeks ago. But first,
friend, an old friend, right, Chris. But first, before we

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get in any of that, we'vegot to turn a little bit to the
developments in the president because I don'tactually think they've been covered sufficiently by the
national media. And what do Imean by that, Well, Senator Joseph
Lieberman had passed away, and that'saffecting the no Labels ticket. But I
want to say something about Joe Lieberman. I had the privilege of shadowing him
for a few days. Really forthose who live, for those of us

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who live in South Louisiana. Weshould have an eternal thanks for Joe Lieberman.
He stepped up for us after Katrina. He was a tireless voice both
in the the late Bush administration.Remember in two thousand and six, he
was kind of busy trying to stayin office. He was right after Katrina
for that year. He was therefor us. He stayed as a presidential

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appointee all the way through, helpingus get money and helping us rebuild,
and frankly for Connecticut Senator, hedidn't have to spend that much time.
No, and remember he's become somewhatof an outcast from the Democrat Party because
he really wasn't doing it their way. Baalim as a renegade Democrat. But
at the same time he also heactually interestingly brought Obama trusted him a lot

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of other people. He's an honorableman. He was you know what,
you know who the mafia wants morethan anybody handling their books, a very
honest accountant. That's an interesting metaphorto bring up about this. That's why
Obama trust him. He was withthe dni fiees, but he didn't He
wanted somebody he could that was goingto do right if he trusted him for
something. And so Joseph Lieberman.What's important about Joe Lieberman. He was

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obviously he was Gore's vice presidential candidate. At the same time, of course,
he was a strong supporter of,you know, American foreign policy after
the Iraq you know, after afternine to eleven, the Gulf War,
in the Iraq War. But atthe same time he was the person who
said, you know what, wecan actually talk to one another. We

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did, and he took a lot, as high referenced, he took a
tremendous amount of flack for supporting hisfriend John McCain. And if it had
been up for John McCain, JoeLieberman would have been the vice presidential candidate.
In fact, McCain in his bookwas very clear he said he made
a mistake with Sarah Palin. Itwas the reaction about having a pro choice
candidate on the ballot. But JoeLieberman continued to not only talk about civility

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and politics. Anybody can come outand say, hey, I think politics
has gotten too dirty. Should becivil. Frankly, that and about five
dollars will buy you a cup ofcoffee at that half right coffee house called
Starbucks. Oh, I have tosay that because I own a coffee house.
As you know, it's a chickoryhouse. But the point being that
Joe Lieberman was the key person inthe no Labels ticket. I sat on

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a call with Joe Mansion and SusanCollins, who were two of his closest
friends on Earth, and they werelamenting where it was. And to tell
you that things can churn fast.On Monday, Joe Lieberman was fine.
He was eighty two years old butperfect health, and he had a fall,
is what happened. But on Mondayhe was talking to Chris Christy and
trying to urge Chris Christy to runfor president. And part of his logic

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was twofold one. He said,you need an we need another voice in
politics that's not kind of on thefringes, but he said, and we
need somebody running for president that hasn't. He's talking to a Republican who he
disagrees with on many different issues,and this is important. He was talking
about integrity, but he also wastalking about the fact that he said,
this is a presidential race that's completelyopen, and if no one watched RFK

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Junior's appointment of Nicole Shanahan as hisvice president. I encourage you to go
on YouTube and watch it. Ithought about being, you know, putting
our speech completely on the air.Even if you disagree with parts of it,
you watch it and you say toyourself, my god, this woman
could be the president of the UnitedStates. She's sharp. She's talking about

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issues that nobody's talking about, importantones like is what's in our food?
That our food makes us sick?And you don't have to be a liberal
or conservative to talk about that thatHi and I have talked about it at
length. Very successful businessman she is. She not only everybody's Everyone is talking
about the fact she's a multi billionaireand she's gonna be funding that campaign so
it's for real. But she everybodytalks about the fact she was Sergei Brinn's

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ex wife, the fact that Googlethe founder of Google. But it's what
they forget to talk about is notonly has she accomplish lawyer, she had
started a website, an AI websitefor advice for lawyers for people who couldn't
afford it that went and made herhundreds of millions of dollars as well as
doing something that helped a lot ofpeople. And that's before she ever married

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Sergei Bryn. She was a multimillionaire and she's self made. She's the
daughter of an immigrant from Youngs inChina and who was here two years when
she was born. Her father hadwas of Irish and German descent. She's
she's half a she's your age,half your She actually she was very attractive.

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She grew up very poor on foodstamps, worked very hard, and
her father had mental illness, schizophrenia, and so she grew up to some
extent, you know, they weretaking care of a father. Her mother
was working as a maid and putherself through school as a dental hygienist,
and so they and she put herselfthrough college working as a waitress. She's

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she's kind of an American, theperfect American dream story. And and talked
about it, and you watch andI watched that, and I said,
and I watched r f K,who was really good, And I said,
and let me just say, Idisagree with much of what the man
believes. Having said that, Ilike the guy, Well that's the point
everybody, and I don't agree withall this stuff, but he's got some
really good points. You like him, you know what, he fights big

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brother government and he fights a bigfarmer, just like his famous uncle,
President Kennedy. Well, and Iput it more closely to his father.
I mean, and I'm not puttingdown if you want to if you want
to take something. You know,the two brothers were very much in what
they would do. But it wasit was it was Robert Kennedy. And
this is who took on some unpopularcauses. He took on cigarette, the

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cigarette companies he took on and itwas it was first informced Jack Kennedy wasn't
a lawyer. That's the that's theimportant point to understand. Yeah, he
was where he was. He wasactually a historian, but whereas Bobby was
an attorney, right, and hethought of the world anyway. So I'm
watching this, I said, youdon't have to support Robert Kennedy. I
think he gets you know, Ican I disagree with him on many of

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his vaccine stuff, but at thesame time to dismiss him as this crice,
Well, it doesn't, but wecan have a conversation. One of
the things nic Cole Shanahan came outand says, look, I support vaccines.
She came out and said it.But she said, if you think
that it's a universal statement that everythingis safe, she said, what I

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want to do is apply an AIanalyzed to to to all of our medical
decision making. She used a techanswer. She didn't come out and say
this is all bad. She said, this is how we approach it.
No one's paying attention. And oneof the things that they're talking about is
this sort of sweetheart deals between bigcorporations and government, particularly big farmer,
but not just that agribusiness, whichis affecting our food, all this oligarchical

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corporations. And you can and thisis something that's interesting. You're not if
you don't pay attention to the factthat Robert Kennedy is at twelve percent in
the worst polls, he's in theworst poles he's in, He's at twelve
percent. Let me say, letme say that one he tried to fight
the powers that be because the DemocratParty has tried to destroy it. They're

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trying to keep him off for thebattle. All the very tricks are planning
on Trump. That plan on himwere one of the things that's gone on.
Wonder when they're going to indict himfor something. One of the things
that's gone on is that he participatedwith all of the in Nevada to get
on the ballot. He got allthe signatures to get on most states ballot.
Louisiana is easy. You know howgetting about in Louisiana. You pay
eight hundred dollars and you're on theballot for president, for governor, whatever

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you want. We have the mostdemocratic little d system in the United States.
In most states, you have tohave so many signatures to get on.
And he needed fifteen thousand qualified signaturesthat's name, address, everything,
and he got them. He gotmore more than that. So you get
fifteen thousand, you need like twentyfive thousand because they're going to disqualify.
And he had somebody, somebody inthe in the secretary of State's office in

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Nevada, said all you need isto signatures. There's no place for a
vice presidential candidate on the paper.So they've been collecting this for months,
spending hundreds of thousands of dollars todo this, and so they submit the
signatures. And the first thing isthere was a law passed in nineteen ninety
three that says you have to vicepresidential candidate. He had asked the person
the office. They admit they toldhim and said, well, that's no

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excuse. Just because we told youthe wrong thing is an excuse. They're
all disqualified. The interesting part aboutthis is Nicole Shanahan comes in. She's
already She's the one who paid forKennedy's Super Bowl ad. She didn't actually
know him two years ago. It'snot like a lifelong friend, and she's
going to fund this. I getready, there is going to be that.

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Not since Ross Perrot have we seenthis much money being dumped in a
presidential race. Oh wow. Andwhat I'm saying is we're now in a
race that's topsy turvy. And JoeLieberman's death has left a hole because right
now the Republicans. You want totalk about democratic barry tricks, and you're
right, they're playing them against rovK. No one's ever done this in
the history of this country. They'regoing after, weaponizing the agencies and going

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after your oppositions. It's never Idon't well place in American history where it's
even come close to it. Ican find a few places, but what
I can tell you is right nowthere is the same things happening on the
GP side, the comments, andwe've got of retribution if you run as
a Republican, the No Labels spouse, I'm going to say something. I
have this strange belief as an Americanthat more choices on the ballot is better

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than less. The duopoly that we'vehad of a Republican and a Democrat is
not serving us any well. Andfrankly, how you may not agree with
both parties are somewhat corrupted. Yeah, I think the Democrats much worse,
but the Republicans have their own shareof wicked And I got to tell you,

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I got to tell you right now. First. One of the interesting
things about it is there's a prettygood argument that he's taking almost as much
from the Republicans as from the Democrats. But right now, the Democrat says,
I want to see another choice.I don't. I don't feel represented
in this race, and I'm hopingthat No Labels does it. I will
tell you that Joe Lieberman's death asthe as the person who was pushing this

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makes it really difficult. And sowe'll see if No Labels they say they'll
get somebody in the ballot right afterEaster, but we're running out of time
to get in the ballot. Iwill say though this for those people that
say, you know, Robert Kennedyis a spoiler, maybe there's an argument
he takes more from Biden than Trump, and I think that's a fair argument.

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I'm going to say this to dismisshim as just that when his floor
is twelve percent in the polls.And I watched in Nicole Shanahan. To
be dismissed as the ex wife orthe founder of Google is to not pay
attention to what's going on, whichis people like me are totally their choices
of Biden and Trump are not anythingthey want on either site. They're looking

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for somebody new and they're taking inRobert Kennedy and Nicole Showen and fit the
bill for a lot of people,particularly a lot of young people. And
be aware of folks, this presidentialrace is just beginning. Speaking of that,
what's just beginning is to take overto the Sewage and Waterboard and the
new headquarters to the NLPD, Andwe're going to talk about that when we
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we've got a couple things. Iwas up at the Capitol this morning and
a couple of different issues that werecoming up on the budget and all this,
and I met with a few membersof the Appropriations Committee. We can
talk about that in the coming weeks. But a lot of people were coming
out and talking about the reaction toJeff Landry's announcement on Wednesday of last week,
where he said he would reduce therepresentation of the mayor and the City

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Council on the Sujian water Board fromeleven to three, and those three members
would be chosen by essentially the localChambers of Commerce New Orleans, Inc.
And the Chamber New Orleans and theRiver Region, and they'd be monitored,
essentially ending the locals. But oneof the things that a lot of people
locally don't know, and this isnot defending Jeff Landry's decision, there's a

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lot of legitimate criticism and there's afirestorm about it, is the fact that
the Sujian Water Board was founded bythe state in eighteen ninety nine. It's
one hundred and twenty five years old, and it's actually a state institution that
in that is where his power todo this comes from. He couldn't do
it of most initial water systems,but this is a state chartered institution.

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So it's simply changing the governance ofthe board. And as we pointed out
in our last edition, there isa degal coming about. You can actually
read about this deal in the currentedition of the Louisiana Weekly up on the
web on Monday by louisianawekly dot net, where glissam Cohomben, who is the
executive director of the Surgeon Water Board, has done a really good job trying
to clean up a mess. Hecame in after having cleaned up Milwaukee,

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is trying to clean up a Surgeonwater Board is proposing an idea of a
property service fee. This is asimple notion. It's been proposing it very
quietly, and it may be theway they try to sell the state takeover.
Where imagine what you're paying in propertytaxes for the Surgeon Waterboard and rates.
Imagine that bill going down being nomore than you're paying less and actually
paying less because you're charging the amountof square foot in your home as opposed

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to the home value or anything elsethe millage. However, every other place
that has square footage as a buildingin New Orleans is also charged. That's
two Lane Loyal University, it's theRoman Catholic Church, it's churches, that's
federal government buildings. They can legallypay that. We create a lot more
money and you pay a lot less. Now, there's some of Jeff Landry's

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close sallies in the business community becausethis was include corporations that have the industrial
tax exampture. They'd have to payup for the first time too. But
and so with a lot of churchesand nonprofits and schools. But it's just
like you pay your electric bill,you'd be paying your water bill. The
thing is this could create a lotmore money and create the average New Orleans
homeowner paying less. We'll see howthat plays off. But I want to

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say I always love questions that comein from the audience, and you can
always we always post these shows onFacebook and you can always just look for
our shows on Facebook. And oneof some of the questions we've got,
I'd bring them up from time totime. And our former producer Sally Morrell
came up. Girlfriend, Yeah,she's wonderful. Wla's right down, and
she was talking about the other storywe talked about a couple of weeks ago.

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And that's the fact that there's thisdiscussion about, you know, the
all the rats were getting high onweed. According to An Kirkpatrick, the
new head of the NPD. Wefound out though, of course the evidence
room is not on Broad Street whereeverything was happening. He was on a
different place. And what they wantto do, what the advocates on the
city council are suggesting is taking overthe seventeenth and eighteenth floors of the old

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Freeport back ran build great and webasically said, wait, you want to
spend seven million dollars a year takeover two floors and we're the city spending
three million dollars more for offices inthe old Amoco building. If we're going
to do this, A, couldn'twe just build a building for everybody at
like ten million dollars to buy thatbuilding? Or B could we just buy

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the well to do folks, that'sa magnificent building. We would never have
problems with a quality building for ourcity hall, and we would have all
the room we needed. I mean, it's just and we might even rent
some of it out and make somemoney. How about that? It would
be nice. And we point outthere's some logistical challenges that people bringing up
by putting a police headquarters on theupper floors of a building, you know,
because if you need instant reaction,waiting for the elevators is kind of

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a difficult problem. And it's apractice. The headquarters, you have the
districts all over where that the actioncomes from all the districts, the headquarters
just monitoring and directing all that.Yeah, well and and so, but
one of the points she brought upwith Sally brought up was she said,
you know, we actually talked aboutin our story the fact that the deal
that's being offered for it's actually nota bad deal. It's sixteen dollars a

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square foot. What people forget isthe state is paying twenty nine dollars a
square foot across the street at BensonTower. Now, why are they paying
twenty nine dollars a foot? Well, this is how we bought off Tom
Benson the last time he wanted tomove the Saints. Instead of writing a
check for him directly, we said, oh, you want to buy a
skyscraper. He didn't own it atthe time. The state will put every

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one of its offices in the metropolitanNew Orleans area in your skyscraper for more
than anybody else is being charged,except for maybe the top of one shell
square or something twenty nine dollars asquare foot, and so it's been basically
a payoff. You wonder how GaleBenson's a billionaire. It's not just car
dealerships. For all this stuff that'sgoing on about ruining secret conspiracies, to

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ruining the deal to buy ray brandFord, it's the fact that the state
your tax dollars, the State ofLouisiana's tax dollars are paying more for Billding
somebody else owns. Now that dealis done. We had to do it
to keep the Saints here. Soon SI. But the Freeport mcmaran building,
another question Sally asked us was,if you're doing you could buy the

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building. But why did Freeport macarandsell it to begin with? Well,
they actually moved. They moved toPhoenix, Arizona. They moved out of
New Orleans, which should be anotherconversation. How did we lose one of
our two fortune five hundred companies,the only other one being Energy of course,
which is kind of stuck here.It's our electric provider. But if
we can't buy this, why couldn'twe move all the offices. It's hard

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for me to believe that ten milliondollars a year, as much as the
team wouldn't be enough for the mortgageto buy the building. It had been
owned by Frank Stewart, the Freeportmcmaran building, and he sold it six
months ago to another group. Thecity could buy that building, save money,
put their headquarters, and make itpermanent. But Sally raises a third
question for us, what do youdo with the dilapidated buildings? How it

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takes money to rip down buildings.We ought to bring Simone Bruni on and
talk about from Demo diva, howexpensive it takes a million dollars to rip
down a building. What do youdo with the buildings? What happens?
It takes millions to raise them,where's that money coming from? And nobody's
really answering any of these very expensivequestions. What are we gonna do because

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we're not going to sell the BroadStreet headquarters, which is we're behind By
the way, there's a reason whyit's called too lane and broad. That's
where the criminal courts are and that'swhere the jail is. So you're not
going to sell a building that isliterally right in the middle of flanked by
the criminal courts in the jail.Utally building gives. Yeah, it's called
the rutless style. And one ofthe things that says, where do we

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get the money for this? Idon't see everybody's and this is one of
the problems in our politics. Everyone'slooking at short term and not long term
on things that make sense. Lookwere why by the Freeport building? Is
that an answer? I don't know. I do know this sooner or later,
we're going to take down another building. It's called New Orleans City Hall.

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Why are we taking it down?Because the thing is physically falling apart.
You can walk down the corridors NewOrleans City Hall and have ceiling tiles
fall in your head. It's happenedto me the elevators. We're going to
have to build a new city hallwe could be looking at. We're going
to at the very least, we'regoing to into a building to put all
of those offices in and act asour city hall while we build something else.

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Frankly, it would be a lotcheaper to put it right across the
street from the supernow and right inthat moderisted building while we're trying to figure
out what our long term plan is, and we'll have an asset for it,
and no one really thinks along thatasset lines. Ultimately, folks,
I got a great story about whyyou invest in museums and I was asked
this at the legislature, and Isaid, the reason you invest in museums

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is not just to teach us ourhistory, but it's actually offers something for
people to go see as a touristand brings new cultural tourism economy into our
things. Sometimes you do these investmentsbecause you look long term at what they
could bring us, not short termat what they will cost in the next
six months. And that's too oftenwe're penny wise and pound foolish. I

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mean, I'll give you an example. Some people will say that you to
rebuild a road, you know it'sgonna cost X. Yeah, well,
you know the price differential between buildingan asphalt road and building a concrete road
is now, really it's not insignificant, But how long more does a concrete
road live than an asphalt right,right, right, it's overall, it's

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yeah. So basically what we're doingis we're tripping over dollars looking for pennies
exactly, and so and and inpoliticians, what is wrong with that?
Well, what no, let meit's part of our system. So we
focus on the next election. Wefocus on what you're going to get.
There's I've never met a politician whogets a political benefit for planning for the

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next generation. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't exist because we as voters,
and this is our fault. Webasically say, what can you give
me? Now? What have youproduced? What have you what bacon have
you brought home? And I Igot news for those that say, oh,
all that pork. One man's porkis another man's pleasure. If I
build you a museum, you maylike it and somebody else matter. If
I build you a school, that'spork. But it affects the next generation.

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And so all of these things iswhat I'm saying, is it takes
for for people who listen to thisshow. I'm going to ask you to
relay a message that we're going totalk about after the break, and we're
going to talk about in the contextof prayer, the idea that sometimes we're
going to tell you a fantastic storythat actually happened in Russia. And I
really encourage you, whether you're abeliever or not, to listen to the

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story about about a gulag that wasrebuilt into a church. But it tells
us it gave us an important fromthe spiritual side of aiming for the future,
but from a political side, wehave to think of that way because
it's not a natural thing. Ina democracy, we are electing people who
have to go up for the votein two to four years. In New

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Louisiana it's four years. They havea twelve year term in one house of
the legislature, they have an eightyear term on a council, so on
and so forth, as a parishpresident, as a mayor, as even
as a governor. And so ifthey don't accomplish something by the end of
their term, have something build,have something done, they don't get reelected.
They don't continue their political career.And it's our fault because we'll say

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what have if we say we've ifhere's a kiss of death for any politician.
I've built something, I'm in theprocess of building something that won't be
finished in my lifetime. Well,guess what, that's an ex politician,
right. But for us, everyso often we have to say what can
we do for the next generation?And as we look forward with a message
after this about prayer, let's lookforward right now and the plans that we

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make. What investments are we makingin our coastline and our education system and
all this that we may never experience, our children may never enjoy, but
our grandchildren will feel the benefits ofit. And that's the kind of the
Eastern message I want to leave with. I think that's what they did when
they built originally the Surgeon Waterboard.Who did all that, Baldwin Wood,

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and who I point out is thegreat great grandfather of my wife. Yeah,
he overbuilt, He overbuilt the pumpsso they would be successful for generations.
Yeah. Our prayers are like missiles, folks. Sometimes when you shoot
a missile, it lands maybe acouple hundred yards in front of it.
You can see them where it lands. Sometimes you shoot these missiles way out
there and you can't see where they'relanding, but they're working. And our
prayers are like that. We cansend them way beyond into the future.

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We may not see them happen inour lifetime, but they're gonna happen.
Never discount your prayers, just likenever discount your political investments. In the
future, even if you don't seeit right now, We'll be backcrafted that
rescue, recovery, re engagement.These are not just words. These are

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the action steps we at the NewOrleans Mission take to make a positive impact
on the homeless problem facing the greaterNew Orleans area. Did you know in
twenty twenty, homelessness in our communityincreased by over forty We are committed to
meet this need through the work beingdone at the New Orleans Mission. We

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begin the rescue process by going outinto the community every day to bring food,
pray, and share the love ofJesus with the hopeless and hurting in
our community. Through the process ofrecovery, these individuals have the opportunity to
take time out, assess their life, and begin to make new decisions to
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are back on track, we walkeach individual as they re engage back into
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purpose. Partner with us today goto www dot New Orleans Mission dot org
or make a difference by texting toseven seven nine four eight. On this
Easter Week, and particularly on thisEaster Sunday, ladies and gentlemen, we

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wanted to do something a little bitdifferent. And one of the things high
that I got to do in mytravels in Russia is go to see the
locations of what was called the OldBelievers. They were a traditionalist sect of
Orthodox Christians, and they were heavilypersecuted both by the Csars and by the
Communist to the point where Joseph Stalinbasically would kill them all. And they

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were pure Christians, and they stoodby their faith, and they were martyrs.
As we remember, he was oneof the most brutal dictators ever of
all times. And the funny thingis he trained to be a priest,
and only somebody who trains to bea priest could be that brutal if he
rejects his faith. Yeah. Soone of the things I wanted to do
was tell you a story about prayer, and on this Easter week, it's

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very appropriate, and it has todo with one of the gulags of the
old believers. On that very subject. Listen to these words by Ryan Scogue
who is on a mission trip inRussia and the description of what he discovered.
One of my favorite stories I've everheard. A friend of mine was
on a mission trip connected to this, and they were doing this beautifully redemptive
thing, whether it takes stones froma Russian gulag and actually use them to

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build the church. Then they're diggingaround and there's a canister that one of
them found, and they open upthe canister and there's a note inside the
canister and they bring it to thepastor so you could read it, and
the pastor starts just falling, justweeping. What the note said is,
we are a community of believers orare being forced to take the stones of

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our church and turn them into ourown prison where we will die. But
we're putting a prayer out to theLord that one day these stones in one
maybe a church again. And thisis like decades later. And so what
we are as people of prayer issending canisters out into the future of prayers

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that God will answer long after ourlife. And I think that's something that
we don't often remember. And Ithought it was to start off this segment
and a little bit different than wenormally do since it is Easter Sunday.
From a main airing is the ideaof prayer is not something that necessarily will
happen, not only in your time, but in your lifetime. Right,

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this is kind of the point achurch was built, they prayed to God.
And you've got to understand if you'veever visited Russian gulag, it doesn't
have the order you find in say, Muchausen or Dachau. For the SS
camps, it's typical German order.You do everything very orderly. The Russian

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people the Russian camps were, however, the people built them, and they're
designed to kill you. And they'redesigned not to kill you by gas chamber.
They're not to kill you by workingyou to death slow death or slow
death and low nutrition and exposure tothe elements, exactly, and to show
you that nothing changes is exactly howAlexi Navali died, I putin it's the

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same script, different one. Butthe fact is on this Easter Sunday,
it was an example of rebirth ofresurrection, because that church still stands to
this day. It's even if putinin power. It was rebuilt amongst a
group of old believers, and theirprayers were answered. And the whole point
of praying sometimes is not for youor for your lifetime or anything. Somebody

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said the definition of success is notwhat you achieve in your lifetime, but
what you achieve that you will neversee and can only come about after your
death, and sometimes after the deathof your children and grandchildren. And so
I thought it was as when itcomes to resurrection, it's not our time,
it's God's time. And it's somethingthat you know, those of us
who anybody in the West, whois so obsessed by this idea of time,

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of having not a lot of time, Time works differently for God.
And it was before we get intoour patriotic moment. High very brilliantly brought
up Mother Cabrini last week. Andif you haven't seen the movie, folks,
a lot in the conservative press havesaid it isn't good. Let me

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tell you something it is one ofthe greatest movies of apologetics I've ever seen.
Of Christian liberal press attacking this movie. Yeah, it is just it
is a brilliant it is as aChristian, you will be inspired by watching
this movie. But there's a scenein the movie where she's arguing with the
Pope's chief cardinal cardinal secretary of State, and he said, you know,

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they they're objecting to a woman leadingan order and doing all of this.
And she wants to open all theseorphanagine schools and she wanted to go to
China, and that's the whole thing. She says, I want to go
to China. That you think youcan do this? You know, is
the whole what about you do thewhole world? And her answer is the
world is not big enough for me. Her dream, her faith is so
big. Well, she then goesand it's just said, to go to

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the whole world. She she hasa private audience with the Pope, which
it horrifies everyone, and the Popetakes out she forced the audience, remember
that she did. But he alsohe got interested. He got interested in
He sees her faith. He seesthat this is he's not dealing and he's
he's making a political he's got apolitical problem because if she fails, he
says, this, you're the firstwoman who's ever done this. You will

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completely ruin it for every other womanthat would ever come, eliminate any women
ever being able to do something likethis. Again, if you're critical and
what you're doing. And so he'she can give her mission. So he
sits down and and when he realizesshe's going to do something intense, he
takes he opens up a small boxby the size of a cigar box,
but it's a wooden box, andhe starts taking out letters and he reads

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them from immigrants in America in theUnited States who are having trouble. And
the one he reads is about achild who whose parents he was an orphan
and he basically froze to death inan alleyway. And he said, you
know, if the world is bigenough, not big enough for you.
She said she wanted to start atthe east and go to the west.
Why not start in the west andgo to the east. Well, the

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thing about mother Cabrini had a tremendousimpact on the United States, North America,
Europe, and New Orleans. Ifyou've got not just Cabrini High School.
She was she opened schools as shewas, she's one of our great
native saints. I just don't understandhow that woman did all that she did.
It's just only God could do.Only God. But here's the thing
where God really does. She neverstopped praying that she would go to the

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East, but she ran out ofthe time. She opened hundreds of orphanages
in schools. Cabrini High School isjust one example of many many that she
did. But she never really madeit to the East. She never made
it to India, she never madeit to China. Right, and at
her feet in Italy people came fromall over the world, and there was
a nun that was on retreat inRome. She was. She was a

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high school teacher. She was,she was, she was. She taught
languages and science. And of coursethat was just an accident, right,
She just happened to be there rightat the perfect time, right, And
so because the accents happened, soshe goes, she goes to Mother Cabrini,
she goes to Mother Cobrinie's funeral,and she's been teaching for eighteen years.
She's not a kid, right,So to give you a point of

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comparison. She's about thirty seven yearsold and she wanted to go to the
poor. That was her mission.She wanted to go to the poor.
Well, okay, at this atthis moment, she's at Mother Cabrini's funeral
and she says, I want tobe like Mother Cabrini. I want to
finish her mission. You met ChrisChristopher. Who was that woman? Oh,
I bet you I know who itwas. You worked Mother Teresa.

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You're right, you worked with herand I lived well, I mean I
lived in her you know, orwhere her work was. And I had
a great visit with Mother Teresa,and I got to work in the the
Calicut house where they're dying, whereyou hear so many of the amazing stories
of Mother Teresa. And look atMother Teresa. She fulfilled Cabrini's which or
dreams are prayers are prayers, Andit happened after Cabrini's death, and so

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through Mother Teresa and her little sister'smercy. Basically, Cabrina's mission was not
finished. Finished at that point shehad the same type of battle where all
the powers that be, the political, the church powers, everything was against
her. You remember Mother Cabrinis,she had to fight everybody to try to,
you know, do this great workGod had given her to do.
They were all fighting her, tryingto stop her and everything. Mother Teresa

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went through the exact same thing infact, when she applied for a little
cirtip whatever in order, you know, the official movement of the church to
get let her start her a littletiny work in Indy, which could have
been another more than a little schoolto the poor, finally reaching the poor.
Uh, they said they forbid herthat. The bishop there, the
archbishop, said there's no way,absolutely no way, we can give this

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to you. I remember you whenyou a young Novilce. You didn't even
know how to light the candles properly. How are you going to run an
order? And then she goes downin the twentieth century as being the greatest,
by far, the greatest uh uhorder of in the Catholic Church.
When all the others were failing,there was only one that was growing.
And it's interesting somebody pointed that outto me recently and said, the orders

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in the Catholic Church just like theorders and the product, just like the
different missions in the Protestant church.The ones that are actually gaining people and
growing are the ones that ask themost from you. They're not the ones
that say, hey, we wishyou to teach what you this. They're
the ones. Give up everything andfollow me. That's exactly what Jesus said,

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give your cross and follow them.Literally, give up all your worldly
possessions, you know, the legionariasfor Christ and in the Catholic Church where
a sackcloth every day. It's kindof a lot, but the point being
that prayers come answered, and oneof the prayers of somebody who inspires me
in this leads us directly into yourpatriotic moment. Has always been the fact

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that Abraham Lincoln every day prayed forAmerica, and he prayed for an America
that would put its differences aside.And I think we mentioned Joseph Lieberman earlier
as a perfect example of someone whodid put partisan aside to try to see
the country. And Abraham Lincoln onGood Friday paid a price, and that
leads us into the patriotic moment.Yeah, you're right, Christopher Abraham Welcoln

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had a major transformation in his life, and when he came into the presidency,
he didn't seem to be a veryspiritual man, so to speak.
He was as a very young man, but then he tended to drift from
all that, and he just wasvery secular and political and all that.
But then in the last year ofhis life, it said it started at
Gettysburg. He had a radical transformationin his life. Some say it was
because of Father Chinecke, who hadradically impacted him. Some say it was

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from Dwight Moody, the famous evangelistout of Chicago. Some say it was
from Sojourner Truth, the famous Africanreformer and preacher. She had a huge
impact on Neghbor. But I thinkit's a combination of all three. But
Anne Gettysburg. But it he changedradically and for the first time he started
praying regularly. He had never donethat before. He would go down every

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evening in the White House, findthe servants downstairs because he knew they were
spiritually strong, and gather them togetherand he would pray with them. And
here's here's a quote from from AbrahamLincoln concerning all that. And incidentally,
folks, his assassination was on GoodFriday, and he died, and he
died just as the it says ithe died in Holy Saturday. What he

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actually died was after sunset on Saturday, which we all know is actually Easter
Sunday, right, because that's right, he goes from sunset. So this
is a quote from Abraham Lincoln,and this is folks, we're in our
chaplain by patriotic mone would just takea brief moment to show you and remind
you of the Biblical foundations for ourcountry, our Judeo Christian jurisprudence. Here's

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ol Ad B. Lincoln. Inregards to this great book Bible, I
have but to say it is thebest gift God has given to man.
All the good the Savior gave tothe world was communicated through this book.
But for it we could not knowright from wrong. All things most desirable
for man's welfare here and in thehereafter are found portrayed in it. And

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as an attorney seeking evidence for anevidence book, I have to say,
without the resurrection, like the GreatApostle Paul said, we would be of
all men without hope, because thatresurrection proves beyond the shadow of doubt.
This whole event death, barren resurrection, which is the gospel actually literally really

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happened. And the research for theresurrection has gone on for years. Many
atheists, many agnostics, critics tryingto prove it wrong. And every one
of them that goes against it justabout they're they're converted. A famous Civil
War in general Lou Wallace, hewent to with a friend to Israel to

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prove the resurrection was a hoax.After all of his research, he wrote
the book Ben Her and was convertedto being a very devout Christian And just
to face it, when he wrote, when you know where he finished the
book Ben Her, No, hewas the governor of Mexico. Oh my
gosh, when the Loretto, whenthe Loretto Chapels stairs was being built,

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he was a governor. He wasthe governor. Wow, isn't that cool?
God gave him a miracle right there, just you know, encourage him.
That's such a We have so manystories like this, folks. I
mean, the more you dig intoAmerican history, the more it's unavoidable.
You cannot miss it. It's overwhelming. I wish I had more time to
give you a whole lot more quotesfrom even outside observers who've seen this about

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us, that we have such abiblical foundation. Our finding follows wanted to
institutionally separate the church in the state, like the Bible teaches, but they
never wanted to philosophically separate it.And they said that over and over,
just like you heard Abraham Lincoln's quoteover and over again throughout our history.
And it's even happening even to thisday. Let's go into our gospel moment.

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We just took again a short timenow. By the way, we're
taken longer on this part of theshow because it's Easter time. You know,
we can take a little break frompolitics. We do do everything political
and it's Easter. Man. Youknow, politics is such a dirty game.
I don't want to hear anything aboutit dirting Easter. But anyway,
all right, so it is timefor our gospel moment. And what is

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Easter? What is Easter? Anybodyever really think about it? You know
what it is, folks. Itis literally the Gospel. The Bible says
in one Green's fifteen, verse one, it says, for I declare to
you the Gospel that Christ died forall of our sins. According to the
scripture, there's good Friday died forall of our sins. According scripture,
was buried and rose from the dead, according to the scripture, and now

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I'm going to pay for it isthat whosoever believeth in this great love message
will be saved from hell and guaranteedheaven. Folks. That's the gospel,
and the scripture says the gospel theEastern Story is the power of God into
salvation to whosoever believeth Folks, weneed the gospel, and I'm going to

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elaborate a bit on it. Rightnow. You just heard it all you
could. You might have it mighthave just clicked in your mind, and
you just trusted Christ. And nowyou're you also will have a resurrection to
heaven, because the Bible says we'reall going to be resurrected like Christ.
He's the first fruits, and thenwe're all following him one day. Folks.
The gospel goes like this, Butlet me ask you just two questions

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to get you really thinking. Haveyou come to that place in your life
right now? Well, you know, for certainly, if you died tonight,
you go to heaven. Second question, supposed tonight's your big night,
and one are before you die,God comes into your room and he says,
hey you, why shall I letyou come into my heaven? What
would your answer be? Do youhave the answer? Well, let me
share it with you right now,and you'll know for sure. Got to

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know a few things the love mysteriesof the universe. The first thing you
need to know is that God lovesyou with an everlasting love, the Scripture
says, and it says that forGod's soul love the world that he gave.
See, because God's a lover,He's a giver. Next love mystery
that we have to understand, andthat is that this is your love problem.

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In fact, it's the whole world. It's mine, it's everybody's love
problem. And then and it's brokenup into two things. Sin and death.
Folks. Sin is you know whatit is, anything and everything we
do that's wrong. Uh, Sinis bad and sin destroys us, and
sin will eventually cast our souls intohell. All right, we gotta we

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got a sin problem. Next problem, we got a death problem. Death
that is the you know, thefinal arbitu of the the finishes you off
forever and right now until we knowChrist, we are literally the Bible says,
we're in a state of death.Till we find life, eternal life
through Christ. So that's the secondlove mystery. The third love mystery is

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that God has a love solution foryour sin and death pollution that loves solutions.
When God, the Son Holy God, became a man, he humbled
himself to come live and become reallylike us, become another maggot on planet
Earth, because we're not much betterthan maggots really before before our creator.
He's so his glory is so great, his beauty is so wonderful. His

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power, who he is, isso beyond anything I can tell you to
have to become a human being,a dirt a dirt man. You know,
we're made out of dirt. Thatwas quite a quite an act of
great love by proven by humility.So Jesus became a man. He's fully
god fully man all. He isa perfect God and perfect man. He

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came to this earth to take careof this great problem we have of damnation.
He did it when he died onthe cross. There you go,
good Friday died on the cross.Not for some, most many, he
died for all. The scripture says, all of your sins from the day
you're born of the day you dieyour tiniest to your greatest sins. They
all went on Jesus. The Biblesays they even went in him, and
even says he was turned into thatsin. Imagine being turned into sin.

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I can't hardly imagine that. Sohe could that thoroughly take care of your
sin problem, and he did whenhe died on the cross. Your sins
were paid for. The last thinghe said was to tell sty that's Greek.
It's written in the Bible as thatin that Greek word. That was
an accounting term used by the ancientworld all around the world because the whole
world been Hellenized and Greek was acommon tongue, the lingua franca, and

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they would stamp it on a bill. When you had paid your bill and
full, they would stamp to tellsty. And you know what that meant.
It literally meant translated paid in full. That's the last thing he said.
He's said, all our sins paidfor. Folks, that's over.
That's done. That one's fixed.But that's half the problem. The other
problem, you know, the secondproblem, if you was our death problem,
Well, how did he beat that? I'll tell you I bit it

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beat it, though resurrection take nohow Abraham Lincoln thought how important that was.
The resurrection. As an attorney,he thought was very important because you
see, it proves beyond the shadowof dot this is all true. A
lot of people were crucified. Well, you can pull out and you can
pull out great people, wonderful peoplewho were crucified. They didn't die for
our sins. But you say theywere crucified. But who rose to the

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dead. Only one, our precioussaved with the Lord Jesus Christ. When
he rose to the dead, heproved that he defeated death, and one
for each and every one of ushis free gift, his precious, free
gift of resurrection, everlasting life.Now that's the third love secret. There's
one more. See loves it twoways free. You can't just beat somebody

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doing all the loving and the otherperson just looks. No, you got
to get involved. It's got tobe intimate. And when you respond to
God's love, basically you're loving himback. When you do that, you
have completed the cycle of redemption.And now, folks, you're God's child.
You have just been born again.The death that was on you is

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now gone. You have resurrection,ever lasting life inside of you. That's
why jess said you got to beborn again. What he meant was your
old, rotten self is in astate of death. You need to be
born out of that. That's whythe Bible calls it the second birth,
the new birth. There is asecond death, you know what That is
eternal damnation in a burning hell,where you will live and you will know,

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you will exist as a zombie forever. It's so terrible. I can't
even hardly think about it. Jesusloved us and didn't want us go on
into the Bible says God made hellfor devils, for sin, and for
death. But there's a great tragicverse in the scripture where it says Hell
is being enlarge. You know why, because men and women die rejecting the
only hope they have, rejecting allof God's love. And then there's only

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one place left for him. It'sa place where God is not. It's
called hell. And everything that's eviland bad and dark is in hell.
Everything that's good and beautiful and lovelyand full of life is in heaven.
He couldn't let Hell ever get intoheaven. It would destroy heaven. So
he had a special place for thosewho reject him, it's called hell.

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So, folks, you see whatyou have to do is this is the
fourth love secret. You've got tochoose your savior, the Lord. If
you accept him as your savior.The scripture says, for God so loved
the world in John three sixteen,that he gave his only begotten son as
Jesus, that whosoever believed in him, what do you believe? Believe that
he died for your sins and rose, and who's ever believed in him shall

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not perish but have everlasting life.And folks, that's the key. In
the split second you do that,because first you've realized you cannot save yourself.
That's called repentance when you know you'rehopeless and helps without God destined to
a burning hell, when you knowthere's absolutely nothing you can do to help
God out or in some kind ofway get yourself into heaven. When you
come to that point, takes humility, folks. But when your pride is

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broken with with repentance, meaning youknow you're a loser and you can't make
it right, at that moment,the lights start coming on a free to
put faith alone in Christ. AndI think if you've never done that before,
folks, do it now, don'twait till it's too late. And
like the scripture says, now,today is a day of salvation. Now,

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and I want to say something.And I normally don't comment on no,
no, I'm glad, but sincewe're doing a little bit longer,
take a longer time, I heardI heard something that was very important and
it was it was it kind ofthrew me for a second. And he
said, if you've ever heard thetime, I'll just leave it and live
a good moral life. And hesaid, the devil doesn't mind you being

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moral if you'll be maral and stillgo to hell, he loves it.
Yeah, it's a great trick heplays on you. It's at the point
being that it's a choice, andit's a choice we hope you'll have many
times. But we also know,and we mentioned Senator Lieberman earlier in the
show that on Monday he was talkingto Chris Christy. On Wednesday he was

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he basically died, and it happens, so you never quite no. And
on that moment, folks, youknow, on this Easter Sunday and for
our Easter broadcast on Good Friday,Monday and Wednesday, we figured we'd rather
than say a creole goodbye, we'llsay a hello and Hallelujah with a royal
Hallelujah chorus, Royal Albert Hall.He is a residen amen