Save Our Cemeteries, Special Session On Crime Recap & More

Hy and Christopher talk about Save Our Cemeteries: Run Through History at Metairie Cemetery on March 24 to begin, and then transition into talking about the end of the special legislative session on crime. They conclude talking about the budget deal in Washington and the chances that Mike Johnson might be a victim of his own success in passing the continuing resolution.

Episode Transcript

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Battles, the politicians addressed the digitdatas and magicians. Who's to see the
money? Then you don't, there'snothing to fill the holes while then are
feeling their pockets, biles, thepoliticians bouncing down the road. Every body'sition

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for no moment, corruption and dysfunction. It's gone a date, divide it
avention. Constitutional carry comes to Louisianaas the legislative Special Session on Crime comes
to an end. What will thatmean? Also, Mitch McConnell is leaving
the majority leadership and it is quitea competition, and the swing votes are

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are Louisiana senators. Speaking of LouisianaHouse members, Julia Letlowe is actually helping
sponsor the bill on the IVF issue. The US House of Representatives, with
Louisianians behind it, generally passed abill to stop a government shutdown. But
that puts Speaker Mike Johnson in adifficult position. And the Supreme Court has

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basically said that all of Donald Trump'slegal challenges save one dealing with campaign finance,
are all going to happen effectively afterthe election. How is this going
to have an impact upon the election? These issues and more? And walk
through history in a run through historyat Metorie Cemetery, all in this edition

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of the Founder's Show, and Godbless all out there you and now listening
to the founders. So the voiceof the founding Fathers, your founding fathers,
coming to you deep within the bowelsof those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps
of the Big Easy, that oldCrescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana,

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and high way high up on thatold Liberty cypress tree draped and Spanish moss
way out on the Eagles branches.None other then you have to being Gary
Baba of the Republic, Chaplain Himceenry, who with Christopher Tidmorey roving reporter,
resident Radical Moderate and associate editor ofthe Louisiana Weekly at Louisiana Weekly dot

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net, And ladies and gentlemen,we got a lot to talk about.
The legislative special session coming to anend, what is happening on our crime
front, and as all the billsare being filed under HB one for the
coming session, we've all we wantto talk about. Before we get into
any of that, we want totalk about the land and the City of
the Dead, the Dead Christal Thisshould be fascinating, and for once they

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are not voting at least except formaybe the people who are going to be
running through them. You know,Jesus said, he said a lot about
the dead, He talked about it. Well, he didn't resurrect them,
you know, that's right. Yeah, And one day he's going to resurrect
them all. But he says thatthe dead are either going to Heaven are
they going to hell. That's oneclear point he made. He also used
cemetaries and whatnot as examples of ofbad religion. Let's say, all the

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religious leaders of his day, whydid steplers full of dead men's bone?
Yeah, and he said, letthe dead bury the dead. In the
words, folks, we got moreimportant stuff to do when the the ame
of the day. Once you're gone, you're gone. No, it's true.
We grieved for the ones. Wereally do, and that's hid.
Not I'm wrong with that. Notthis part of the show. We got
one thing, get me all firedup. One thing that's important I understand

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is New Orleans is blessed with theonly signature actually that there's a wonderful booklled
the bituary cocktail and said New Orleansonly really created two things the cocktail in
the above ground cemetery, and weactually created neither, but we perfected both.
The fact is that our cities ofthe Dead are our architectural legacy and
the most beautiful of them, ofall of them. And I say this

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to somebody who's given tours in SaintLot's number one, number two, number
three, I am here is themost beautiful, easily, and the largest
and the largest amount of history isMetory Cemetery. And joining us is Jerry
Shane of Metory Cemetery and also ofan organization that I've spent a lot of
time working with and I'm very proudto be part of Save our Cemeteries and
Jerry. On Sunday, March twentyfourth, you're having the twenty third annual

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Run and Walk through History at MemoryCemetery. This race through the cemetery that
also will be followed for the firsttime with walking tours of the cemetery.
But talk about this. This isthe major fundraiser for an organization that you
have both chaired. Run put yourheart and soul into. And the funny
thing is it's the one that doesn'tsupport your cemetery supports every other cemetery.

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It's save our cemeteries. What isthe race if you would, and that
you're so generously host many Well,first of all, Christopher, thank you
for having me. Delighted to beable to talk with you guys today.
There once again races on Sunday,March to twenty fourth. It's going to
be our twenty third annual run walkthrough history. You know, one interesting
thing about this, it's the nation'slargest cemetery race and we have kind of

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confirmed that so far as the realitythey do. They have races and other
cemeteries in Raley Country, believe itor not. First the largest, the
largest, the largest, Yeah,it's the first. The race is typically
you know, it kind of drawsseven hundred people walkers, runners of all
different areas. And just so youknow on your comfort level that we hold

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a one k which is a halfmile and then we have the five k
which is three point one mile.So it is a very friendly race towards
our local families and race enthusiasts.Yeah, you are going to see the
New Zealand runners flying by you onthe race and stuff on this race.
This is this is a race andlet's let's let's let's just put it off.
We start off. You know,it's that anyone can join this race.

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It's not like you have to qualify, you can just you can run
through it. It's on a beautifuland warning on the twenty fourth, on
that Sunday, the weather is supposedto be really good, and it's not
only do you get this incredible runthrough history and metiorie cemetery, but the
money, the money that you're puttingup to join the race goes to the

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most good of all good causes,keeping our other semi terry's a live Can
you talk about how this support saveour cemeteries? Sure? Sure. Once
again, the proceeds of the race, they go to our friends that save
our cemeteries and they helped, youknow, continue the mission of preserving New
Orleans historic cemeteries for future generations.Then we're talking about legacies, you know.

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So that's something that's very very importantthat we wind up doing Save our
Cemeteries as a local nonprofit, it'sit's dedicated to preservation, promotion, the
production of our New Orleans cemeteries throughrestoration and advocacy itself. So the proceeds
will wind up going to save ourcemeteries. They we're just gonna go towards

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tomb restorations and cemeteries throughout the throughoutNew Orleans. And in fact I was
I'm always impressed by this. Jerryhelped sponsor this every year at Metory Cemetery.
He helps, he invites us in, he himself as service, and
not one of these dollars goes toBettery Cemetery. You guys put up do
all of this so to help preserveall the other cemeteries around town. I

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wanted to be a good community partner, and I thought dealing with our cemetery,
I couldn't find a better, abetter you know, partnership than with
save our cemeteries and dealing with anonprofit organization. So you're pretty pretty close
to all the cemeteries in town,pretty aware of what's going on with all
of them. Correct. I couldsay that I'm not I note to some

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degree being being around here for fortysomething years or whatever about the other cemeteries.
But my life has been here.I have been that Metory Cemetery for
it'll be forty five years in April. Wow, you know, you know,
hey, you know you know what'sone of an interesting thing guys you
may want to know is our cemeterywas a perfect venue for a race and

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it originally was a racetrack. Let'stalk about that where this is the this
is the original Jefferson downs quite literally. No, it was a premier race
course prior to the Civil War.So the Civil War breaks out and then
they wound up shutting that down andMetori Cemetery bought the land and so they

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built the cemetery around the original ovalformation of the Metai racecourse, which then
leads to a perfect venue for arun walk in our cemetery. You know,
we buried a gal there a fewyears back, and she was quite
an equestrian and she was right onone of the runs for the breaking where
the racetrack would have been. Westarted right there, so she could see

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those ghost horses running past her everyday. Yeah, yeah, they do
have They do have some people thatactually wanted to wind up being on around
where the actual track of the racecoursewas. And we also just recently buried
a very close friend, Lisa Slayton, who we had a wonderful toast to

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her after it was that I didthe I officiated and we had just wonderful
toast with her favorite bourbon. Itwas really and one of the things that
I find interesting about I do wantto talk a little bit of history of
Metory Cemetery because I think it's wonderful. People don't appreciate we talk a lot
about Saint Louis, number one,number two, number three, and the
famous people that are buried in MenoryCemetery and the legends of New Orleans history

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is but people will get to findout more about that later in the afternoon
because the thing I'm most excited aboutthis year is after the runners have done
there their thing, there's actually goingto be two walking tours of Metory Cemetery
past the kings and Queens of Carnival, the monuments, the Army of Northern
Virginia, and everything else throughout thecemetery. So you don't actually have to

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go running on the twenty fourth ofMarch. You can actually walk and learn
about the cemetery. And it's becausethis is the twenty third year, Jerry
Shane, it's going to cost twentythree dollars to be able to do that.
Yeah, can you talk about thata bit? Sure? Thank you
for mentioning that, because I amexcited about the cemetery tours and Sally Yasher,
the president of the Say of OurCemeteries, is kind of coordinating that

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and I really look forward to doingthat Ourmetary and listen, I'm gonna be
prejudiced towards it, but I willmention this. Yeah, you've only dedicated
forty you've only dedicated forty five yearsto it, Jerry, why would you
why would you possibly be proud ofit whatsoever? You know that's ridiculous.
Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you, I'll be proud of it. Forbes,
Uh, the business magazine is legitimate. You can get name. I'm

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Metory Cemetery one of the top tenmost interesting in the world. Wow,
that's not the South, that's notthe United States, that's the world.
Yeah. Only only four from theUnited States made that Forbes list. Arlington
ware the soldiers are buried Horse Lawnout Los Angeles, Mount Auburn came and
Cambridge, Massachusetts and I'm Metory Cemetery. So that puts us some pretty pretty

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unique company there. So we areexcited about that. And it's and people
don't realize this because Medity Cemetery hashad new uh crips put in it has
it has continue to bury people,so they don't realize how many famous people
are buried there and how many monumentsto people there are in that CEMETERYR.

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Can you just give us a fewof the more famous ones. I'll mention
it. There's there's all this.First of all, there's non Louisiana governors
buried in the cemetery. There areall kinds of uh. And I'm proud
to say yours is the only yearshe is one of the only cemetery where
they do not remain active in politicsin each election. No one has ever
voted for meditary cemetery. I'm verywell, you see yourself a very happy.

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I don't know you could. Ibet you could have some political arguments.
I have two of I have.I have two of those governors buried
there, Simul Douglas mcganry and Johnmcganry ancestors. Yeah. But so besides
the governors, you've got all kindsof people. You have kings and queens
of queen. Yeah, well youhave eighty five kings and queens. Wow.

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Dealt with some of the kings ofCarnival historians and we have identified mostly
kings, but eighty five, Sothey are the queens in the cemetery.
They pray at Trinity and then theybury them in meticory. That's correct.
But the couple of the other popularnames that that people recognize in the thew

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all's area. Tom Benson's buried inhere, Al Copeland's buried in here,
Harry Lee, Ann Rice, AndrewHiggins. Uh, we got the in
laws. The outlaws call us macellos. Yeah, Hennessy, what about Hennessy?
Who killed the chief? We got? We got Hennessy. We'll be

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on the funal seven o'clock tonight ifyou go down afa going down by the
way, all the all the differentpeople buried here in Bettery seventy. He's
near my great grandfather's tomb, soI'll see him all the time. Hennessy.
I see. Yeah, there's alot of interesting history involved with that,
not not cemetery wise, but uh, in relation to that. So

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we have all that. Jerry Shane, Jerry Shane, the head of Bettery
Cemetery, is joining us talking aboutthis run and walk through history on Sunday,
March the twenty fourth. Ladies andgentlemen their positions for the run,
and there are also plenty of positionsopen, plenty of opportunities open if you
want to take the walking tour,one of the two walking tours that afternoon

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through medical Cemetery where you get tosee these incredible crips and here the stories
of the people that are in it. It's it is one of the greatest
ways to know in our wonderful citiesof the Dead and Jerry. If somebody
wants to either qualify for the race, by the way, you will also
have it's this is a New Orleans, you know, cemetery run. So
we've got a band, we gotfood, we got beer, the whole

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works. It's it's it's it's reallygood, all the proceeds benefiting save our
cemeteries. If somebody wants to actuallyparticipate in the race or just want to
wants to go on the walking tourafterwards, come out and have you know,
have a drink, listen to themusic, take the walking tour.
How would they do it? Astwo forms? First of all, the
one of the registrations that's been upthere for months now is with the New

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Orleans Running Systems. That's Chuck George, my buddy who actually puts the race
on for us and you can goto Nola and Ola Nola running dot com
and you can just to that way. You can also go to save our
Cemeteries dot org. Save our Cemeteriesdot org well not only have registration of
the race, but that'll also havea little bit of information or relation to

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the tours that you've been talking about. So either one of those two ways
that you can wind up registering forthe race. I mean, you could
even walk up the day as longas you maybe do it by seven thirty
in the morning, so the racestarts at eight thirty and they'll they'll kind
of cut things off as it getsclose to the race time. And if
you need further things, guys,the Pussyfooters are welcoming people back in.

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You know, the early elvis isare there. It's quite an affair to
come through. It's a wonderful thing. And most importantly, and I want
to give Jerry credit because not onlydoes he run the one cemetery that doesn't
need a lot of help, it'sa beautiful admitary cemetery, but he's dedicated
years to save our cemeteries and frankly, if it weren't for the efforts you
and the board have done. Goingback to Mary Luke Christovich, un save

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our Cemeteries, a lot of ourcemeteries would be falling apart. It's right
now now the Save our Cemeteries ispreserved, paying and preserving a society tomb
in Saint Louis number two. They'rethey're they're key for a lot of these
cemeteries. The the only source ofcapital to keep these cemeteries alive, to
keep these crips from falling in andon themselves and not being vandalized is Save

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our Cemeteries, which is done forthe last fifty years. Yeah, it
is incredible work. I mean,you have you have city cemeteries that are
really need of help. I meaneven to some degree some of the austos
and cemeteries. And this is whereSave our Cemeteries has stepped in and they
have done. They've done a tremendousjob. I wish there could be more,
but they're so some of these someof these graves, I mean,

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some of these cemeteries have been throughso many hurricanes and uh, you know,
the the age of the cemeteries throughdeterioration or what have. You're going
to wind up having that and saveour cemeteries does its best that we can
wind up doing and helping out.There are a couple of pauper cemeteries that
I've been to here in New Orleans. One on we did the ceremonial,
you know, memorial for Buddy bothI was there for that event and with

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the mayor and everything and at thathole. Yeah, yeah, well anyway,
next and that was the poppers,A couple of those poper ones.
They're burying them in the water whenthey dig the hole for the grave they
had below sea level. And Idon't know, I mean, it seems
like they could rectify that. Nothat I mean that's there's no money,
and that's part of the Yeah,it's a subsidence, you know, last
time, I believe it or not. Folks, the dead don't actually vote

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in Louisiana, and politicians don't putthe city doesn't put up any really money
to support these cemeteries, very verylittle. There's one sexton for four cemeteries.
And so without save our cemeteries andthe efforts that come out, ladies
and gentlemen, a lot of ourhistory as well as the remains of our
ancestors, would be lost. Andso and it's not just been the high
end cemeteries. Save our Cemeteries ispreserved, African American cemeteries, Slave cemetery

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is really across the board. Andone of the best ways to come out
is to come out on Sunday thetwenty fourth support Save our Cemeteries by either
running in the race, taking oneof the walking tours, or come out,
you know, buying some merchant,listening to the band, having a
beer, and supporting this incredible mainfundraising effort for Save our Cemeteries. And
Jerry Shane, we want to thankyou so much for joining Hi and Christopher

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here on the Founders Show and theeffort. The website is Save our Cemeteries
Dot are work and folks rarely,I mean, there are a couple of
tours of Metory cemetery, but theywon't have walk They rarely have walking tours
quite like the one they're going tobe having on the twenty fourth. It's
really something I highly encourage it.If I sound prejudice, it's because I
do volunteer work with Save our Cemeteriesas well, and it's a really good

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cause. Sarah real quickly I knowthat Frank, I believe Frank Stewart owned
the metaary or part of it.Is he still involved anywhere or did he
sell completely out? You know,you're trying to get it right. Frank
sol out of it since twenty thirteen, and the owners that purchase from Frank
have kind of turned a lot ofthe responsibility and reference to the historical aspects

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over to me. In reference tobeing a new all Lenian, yeah,
uh, you know, a fifthgeneration funeral director, which I think is
fantastic. Yeah, I know thatlends that local Yah. I know that
he did a great job when hewell, but I got to tell you
very much, so Jerry, Yeah, go ahead, Jerry. Please.
By the way, miss ms Kristovich'sgrave side is about the two hundred yards
from where I'm sitting here talking toyou. So I get a chance to

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visit her grave side a lot aswe uh, as I go through the
cemetery for those things, for thosewell, for those that don't know,
Mary lu Christovich is was the founderof Save our Cemeteries and the founder of
the Perservation Resource Council and so amongstmany other things. And so she's it
was her initiative fifty years ago tosave to quite literally save our cemeteries that

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started all of this, and soit's kind of appropriate that the race will
come right near a grave and it'sand well, I will say, for
those that don't know, New Orleansnot only has the most beautiful cemeteries,
Jerry is being modest about one thing. We're were We kind of set the
standard for funeral funeral directors and funeralstandards and business practices and funerals all over
the world. That's one of thereasons why you know, metitary cemetery is

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not just an incredibly beautiful place,it is actually considered one of the models
of how to run a cemetery allover the planet. And I know for
a fact that you teach people,Jerry funeral directors from all over the world,
from Australia, from Asia, howto do this and how to make
it a marketable business and so andJerry, I've gotten lost in metory.
In my that's very easy to do. Yeah, and I had a map,
I know where it was. Butwhat I mean is I get lost

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in time because you get in there, it's just one amazing thing after another.
I've spent hours in that cemetery.It's quite an experience. Jerry se
yeah, and thinks I will mentionthis is I I we've damaged by hurricanes,
so I can't go point and sayone hundred percent of the fact.
But I've done statistical research through censusstudies and the percentage of burials that metical

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cemetery is doing, we got aboutbetween one hundred and fifteen and one hundred
and twenty thousand people in our cemetery. I'm guessing. Okay, one of
the last very serious questions we gotto get are our monuments protected within the
cemetery walls? Is somebody got this? That's a question that's going to take
a little bit of tom The answer. It depends on whether it's under perpetual
care or not. And some familieshave perpetual care and other families don't.

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That's the easiest answer I can giveyou. Some of the families died off
before perpetual care ever even came inexistence. But if you miss certain laws
that we have to abide by todo work on a family's grave, and
we need permissions, and if they'vedied off, that's a challenge. Right
on that note, And folks,you can come see the graves and hear
the history of Metorie Cemetery on thetwenty fourth Sunday, the twenty fourth of

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March, or race or do bothfor a good cause. To support save
our Cemeteries. Go to Save Ourseemeteriesdot org if you want to participate in
the race or take the tours,or just come out that day seven thirty
in the morning to do the raceor throughout the day where there will be
merch for sale and you can actuallysupport and wave at the runners and take

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it through. Highly recommended. JerryShane, thank you for joining Hi mckenry
and Christopher Tidmore here in the FounderShow. We really appreciate it. Thank
you much. Thank you guys andfolks will be back after these important messages
E two and more of the faunieresshould have come right after this, turning
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We are still the number one ratedweekend show on Wrno. One of
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Christopher Tidmore and ladies and gentlemen we'vegot. Of course, I remain your
roving reporter as well as resident radicalmoderate, and we got a lot to
talk about, you know. Obviouslycoming up a little bit, Mike Johnson,

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Louisianas and Mike Johnson managed to geta bill that stops the shutdown of
the government. And right now,some on the right or not, has
he got more than half the Republicancaucususport them, but more Democrats voted for
it than Republics. Just literally notto shut out, to give it about
two more weeks of funding. Butit's we will come up against it on
the eighth and the twenty secris.Yet one thing we know this is a

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gimmey. I mean, it justcan't shut the government down. Everybody knows
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harder, trying to wake people upto saying we've got to get a good
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financially. But here's here's the thing. So the current budget that we've passed
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Johnson, the stuff that there's generalagreement on veterans affairs, so and so
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about half the budget, you know, health and human services, stuff like
that, and get that passed andthen get the rest of it passed by
the twenty second or at least that'sthe theory. But it's there are some
Frankly, it's the same five orsix people who got rid of McCarthy and
market Green, Matt Gentz, whoare who are who have come out and
said, no, let's just shutdown the government. Oh that's all big

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talk, Chris No, come onhigh, devote aoc. She talks real
big. Now do all these terriblethings in this all talk in this particular
case, their argument, their argumentis would be better off to shut down
the government because the people will bewith us. Well, every time the
government shut down, Republicans have paida terrible price. I mean, it's
it's not it's not smart. ButJohnson, I mean the meek explain how

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serious this is for Mike Johnson.Margatie Tayl Green said, because he passed
these continuing resolutions, she's very close. You know, she's thinking very seriously.
Ken Buck said the same thing inColorado of you know, having a
motion to vacate, to the pointwhere Jared Golden of Maine, who is
a conservative Democrat one of the fewthat's there. He represents northern Maine,

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has come in and said at thispoint, I'm sick of it. You
know, we'll get twenty Democrats togetherthat said to vote for it, because
there's a we've reached a point whereis the where the perfect has to be
the enemy of the good no matterwhat. Remember, nobody's debating. That's
the irony of this whole thing.I don't think they're really they did it

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to everybody said they were bluffing aboutMcCarthy, and they weren't. Well,
there were other issues with the mccauthy, Yeah, but they weren't that many.
I don't buy that. Mike hasdone so many good things and they
all know it. Yeah. Iif a person says, that's pretty serious
and it caucus and Mike Johnson hisanother one of his tests is going to
be there is a compromise bill onUkraine and Israel funding. And it actually

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what it does is it includes Titleforty two and the Remain in Mexico provisions,
the two most popular of the Trumpprovisions that if you're caught, you
know, you can wait in Mexico, but they don't release you in the
United States. So these two missions, it actually has bipartisan support of Fitzpatrick
of New Jersey is a Republican andJared Golden of Maine is a Democrat.

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It's got what's called the problem soldestCaucus. It probably would be dead and
arrival in the Senate. But Johnson, these are two major priorities. You
know, every Republican said they didn'tlike the Senate bill because it didn't have
these two things. These were Trump'stwo big accomplishments, Title forty two and
Remain in Mexico. And he's gotthe ability to put that for a vote.
There are Democrats who will vote forit, not a lot, but

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a few. He can get itthrough. He can lose three or four
Republican votes. The same people thatwe're talking about have said if he puts
any bill on the floor, includingones that has been a major Republican priority,
that includes Ukraine funding, even whenthe funding the Ukraine is loan,
they will vote him out. Andit's kind of like, wait, this

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is literally what we talked about.Defend the border and defend it and actually
do it. And it's one ofthe things Johnson is in danger of a
speakership. The other one that's comingup, and to share controversy even though
the state of Alabama's House of representativesand Senate are passing an exception for IVF.
This Alabama Supreme Court said IVF thatessentially fertilized ovums are people right.

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And therefore, what that means inpractical terms, if you, my ex
wife and I went through IVF,you have to implant three ovums to be
able to get one. It's it'sit's a very iffy and so that what
that would mean is you theoretically commitmurder because the body might reject one or
two of the ovums. It's it's, it's it's a really dangerous kind of

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president. And so the Alabama legislatureis passing it, but that rejects those
things anyway in nature. Well,I don't know, but I'm telling you
to give you an idea how itis. Senator Hyde Smith of Alabama,
Cindy Hyde Smith. There was aunanimous consent bill in the Senate to make
an exception for IVF. One ofthe sponsors that bill in the House side

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is Julia Letlow of Louisiana, who's, you know, not exactly a liberal,
a conservative Republican congress loan, butwho bore two children by IVF.
And the point being they try togive it. She Hyde Smith objected to
unanimous consent to bring it to thefloor, which means it's a long process
and it's shut down the IVF clinicsin Alabama. But it's also a political

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problem for Republicans because even a lotof pro life people are like, wait
a second, the whole point ofit is bringing you know, trying to
bring children into this world. Ifyou take away IVF options, you're taking
away people's ability to have children.It's not a hypothetical kind of issue.
And it's one of these issues thatis cutting across the political spectrum, and

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it is Republicans who have come outand said, there are some who have
said, you know, no,this is they should all be that,
this should all be a every fertilizedof of them should be considered a human
life at every point. And it'sone of these situations of taking the bigger
issue and making the perfect the enemyof the good. I mean, it's
one of it's sort of defeating thepurpose of anything, which is to bring

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more life into the world. Anyway, So folks speaking of bringing more life
into the world, they're going togo to the Louisiana Legislature now as we
talked late last week. A lotof the crime initiatives have passed through.
Seventeen year olds will again be treatedas adults in violent crime. There is
a lot of parole issues are beingyou know, the issue of good time

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for the most part, will ceaseto exist. You'll have to serve eighty
five percent of your your sentences evenif you're a first time offense in order
to get a good time for parole, and that it has been if you
were a non violent first time offender, one of the changes had been you
could spend forty percent of your sentenceand then go out in the world.
That's being taken away. But themost controversial issues had to do with giving

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people who have concealed carry permits thesame liability shields that police officers have.
I personally didn't have a problem withthat. If you've gone through a class,
had a federal background check, ifyou have no criminal record and you're
defending yourself, you can still beprosecuted if you use it in a crime,
but if you're defending yourself, youcan't be sued for liability. And

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that's you know. But the secondone was what's been called constitutional carry,
and it's the idea that eighteen anyoneover the age of eighteen. There are
no exceptions to this, and theoryfelons aren't supposed to be able to do
it. But in practice we youknow, it's we've got about anyone can
carry a gun concealed. They stillcan't carry it into a bank or into

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a school or gun free zones,but you can carry it anyway. What
this means, to give you apractical side is while you can defend yourself,
and if you're at a martiborough paradesand the police find these days find
you carrying a gun, you canright now they can confiscate the gun.
They don't arrest you, they confiscatethe gun because you don't want a shooting
at a parade. Well, thatwill no longer be legal. That will

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actually be illegal to confiscate a gunin a public setting. But one of
the things that everybody kept talking aboutthe idea of constitution carry and I was
like, I was looking at this, I said, both the left and
the right misread the Second Amendment.Where the left reads it is that you
know, the right to carry muskets. No, they were pretty specific about

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the right to bear arms. Butwhere the right misreads it is the beginning
of the statement, but not inthe way that the left thinks. It
says, in order to maintain awell regulated militia, the right to bear
arms shall not be removed. Awell regulated militia didn't mean that you were
a member of the military, butit did mean something very specific. Every

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male person in society was a memberof the militia. From between the ages
of twenty and forty. You wereofficially in the militia, whether you knew
it or not. That law stillit's still actually, I mean, when
you're over forty, you can't be, but you had to be during those
years. And they needed that becausewhen they first came, they were in
a hostile land where they were withtribal people who lived for war, and

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they were like during the killing yearin Virginia, like you see that ninety
to ninety five percent of of thesettlers were killed by the Indians. So
it was a very dangerous place,and every man had to know how to
carry a gun and use it todefend his community. And that's the important
part of what you said, andthat's what made it so different from Europe.
In Europe, a private citizen couldnot own a weapon. Only official

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soldiers could carry on the King's men. So it was so different when they
came to the new orle all ofa sudden, all the men now could
be armed. And what's important aboutwhat you just said was they had to
actually show up once a month forrevelly, for for a present. Well,
but what happened, And I'll bethe first one to say that in
a lot of cases outside of wartime, it was the guys would get together,
drink. Of course, they havea party. They do that to

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this day in the National Guard.I know I was part of it,
but they don't. We don't doit on duty. Yeah, but the
point, but the but here's theimportant part. No, it was not
restricted just to long rifles. Itwas it was it was pistols. You
had, you have us, butyou were taught how to use them,
right. You you maintained your ownweapons because you had to bring them with
you to the militia practice taught byyour father usually well, but even if

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you weren't, they would teach youthere. They would teach you there of
course. And this is an importantpart of this. And this is the
part because we're the founders, Standishhad to teach the pilgrims how to use
weapons because they don't they don't knowhow to do it. The part,
the important part about all of thisis if we're getting back to what the
Founders, this is called constitutional carrywith the Founders intended. If ever there
was a reason for this show,it's this issue, because we got to
get back. The Founders had avery specific idea, which is that you

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had to be armed because you hadto be part of the militia and you
had to have the right defend againstwhatever threat that was there. But you
were going to learn and know howto use it. And people had a
general idea that you had arms.I mean, if you didn't show up
to militia practice because you didn't wantto carry arm, you want to be
a conscience objector. And they didexist, then the quators were and others

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people knew that. Otherwise, theyknew that you practiced, excuse me,
that you practiced at least once awhile with your guns. You knew how
to use them. What worries meabout the amend exactly what worries me about
the constitution carry issue is there isno requirement that you know what you're doing.

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There's no requirement that your your neighborsknow that there's a place that they
can watch you practice. Because theyall went to militia practice. Know why
they did it years, two hundred, fifty years ago, it's it's fascinating,
folks. They kept their weapons inthe church, that's where the army
armory was. Then let's they hadthem at home. And guess what,
you know who you the commander usuallywas the previs So they knew that they

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were dealing with a very moral andyou know, a stable group of people.
But that's this is what I'm gettingat. That they practiced, They
knew it. They had a certainsocietal commitment that they had to make.
You had to show up, youhad to be part of the militia.
And in the constitutional carry issue,that what everybody seems to be things you
can carry. God. First ofall, it was twenty years old,

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not eighteen. And one of thethings I objected to in the legislature is
one of the proposals was let's justmake it twenty one, because the kids'
brains are still forming, why areyou doing it? Knows that it was
actually and it was voted down,and the argument was that's a violation of
their rights. And by the way, if you ever want to get yourself
in trouble, I've done this beforecheckpoints and Yemen, other checkpoints I've been

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through in hostile lands in the military. If you come to a checkpoint and
you notice the guards there are allteenagers, start praying really, really hard,
because teenagers will shoot you in aNew York minute without conscience. They
don't care something that is going onin a teen so where they don't have
that kind of maral responsibility they shouldhave. And so if that's been the

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case, and you better, youknow, make sure they're old enough to
have the maral capacity to handle it. And so when Katrina Jackson a few
others put an amendment before and said, Okay, we're not gonna change anything
else, just make it twenty one. You have to be twenty one to
drink. You have to it wasvoted down saying this is a violation of
and I'm quoting the exact statement thatwas made one's god given constitutional right.

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And the reason why I'm bringing allthis is the founders intended this to every
person to be armed and defend themselves. That is actually not debatable if you
really look at the history. Butthey also figured you were a certain age,
you knew how to use the weapons, and you had a public accountability
about those weapons. You're sure youcould carry something concealed. They had concealed

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gun pistols at the time, butyou knew something. And one of the
things that I watched is the PaytonI realized how little our legislators actually knew
the history. On either side.I mean, there's a there are a
few members of the left who arelike, this is the right to bear
muskets. That's not true either,but it's it's that why why are we
letting eighteen. Let's let's be blunt. You have a lot of kids who
are work step is yeah, andthere and they and they're going to be

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and there, and they're going tosay, very quickly, it's now legal
for me to carry It's now legalfor me to carry a six shoot.
Is now legal for me to carryuh, a forty five concealed. Nobody
can see it, nobody can sayanything about it. This argument that only
the criminals can carry it, andthis is what Jeff Landry said. He

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says, now the non criminals can, it says, now the regular person
can defend themselves against criminals. AndI'm saying to myself, I said,
you know, what was the bigdeal about a concealed carry class. I've
done part of it. I've donethis. It's not hard. It's it's
you get a background check. Ihave to get a federal background check to
be a tour guide. I mean, it's not like this is something that

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is a violation of rights. Ittakes about ten minutes. It's your fingerprinted,
you take out this. Yeah,and then you take a gun safety
class that lasts about four or fivehours to make sure you know how to
shoot. A military background Well,yeah, they they please subscribe it.
But I mean because you already hadthat training and they make it a sessions.
So I was like six years old, folks, but my expert shot

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literally at age six. But whatI'm getting at high is, what's the
big deal? Why was that soonerous? And remember I just started this
thing saying I supported the liability shieldthat went to I'm not against that.
What was so onerous about that?And I asked legislators who are boasting that
they voted for constitution carry. Andwhen I asked them privately, and I
said, what's the big deal.And they said, it's the political pressure,

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it's the NRA, it's that thiswe were going to be the twenty
seventh state, And I said,what about the age of twenty one?
It's the gun lobby. And I'mlike, guys, there's a little common
sense that doesn't violate ones. Right. Let me show you some real common
sense here, folks. I don'tcare what kind of laws you set up,
and there are they are important atleast for the law abiding citizens.

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But no matter what kind of gunlaws you create, I can assure you
the people who are going to bepulling the triggers could care less about those
laws. They don't follow them.And I'll give you an example. We
have an overwhelming amount of drug enforcementlaw. How's that working on, Folks?
Work out it all the day.You outlaw guns for whatever reason,

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the law abiding citizens will probably followsuit, even though they maybe feel that
they're violating their own constitution. Butyou know who's not going to follow it
the outlaws, the criminals. AndI think one thing they ought to do
concerning this, just like they didin a while West, you had certain
gun laws in town, you know, like in Chamstone, you had to
check your gun into town. Youhad to check it in when you came

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into town, and when you weregetting ready to leave, you go pick
up your weapon. And that cutdown a whole lot of the shootings in
the bar rooms and saloons. Yeah, and this is this is something somebody
brought that up and said, look, why because right now you have a
right before a concert carrier to havea gun in your car. You have
a right to take a gun fromyour hardier house, your right to do
any of this. Why not havethe check clas and guess what they don't

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So, folks, that was literallythe cause of the shootout, the gunfight
at the Ok Corral, because thebad guys, they'll call them the cowboys,
they were carry they would not turntheir weapons, and so whid are
up and Doc Holliday on their orbrothers, they all had to go in
and disarm them. And that's whatcaused it. It's a famous gunfighter.
We've ever read about it, oryou can go to Tombstone to this day
and they do a perfect re enactmentof it. Folks. We got a

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lot of other things, including we'lltalk about next week. Donald Trump is
actually free with the Supreme Court hearinghis case in April. He will not
have any of his cases except forthe Manhattan case on whether he was allowed
to use campaign funds to pay hushmoney to Stormy Daniels. But the court,
well, we get into all thatand the DA's races in next week's

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edition. Having said that, thoughI got to tell you I was one
of the things that was disheartening aboutthis legislative session was everything happened so fast,
and nobody, nobody, nobody stoppedfor a second and said, is
this really a good idea? Andbecause the pressure was overwhelming, maybe we'll
see that. But as I'm watchingthe bills being filed in HB one and

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I'm worried that, you know,things are driving one question, it's either
going to turn out really really goodor really really bad. Governor Jeff Landry
said he wants to take over thesewage and waterboard. That could be great,
depending upon who's doing it. Itcould be also horrible, and I'm
very nervous about it. But I'mhopeful because if you live in the city
of New Orleans, I mean,what's black and orange and sleep six a

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Sogion waterboard truck. Anyway, folks, We'll be back with a patriotic moment
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Partner with us today go to wwwdot New Orleans Mission dot org or make
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we're back and you are listening tothe Founder Show, and it's now time
for us to go to our chaplain. Bye bye, patriotic moment. We

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just take a brief moment to remindyou of the biblical foundations of our country.
Our Judeo Christian jurisprudens, and ofcourse has always this is Chaplin.
Hi McHenry, And today I wantto just quote a little sharp past a
portion of the Delaware Constitution written inseventeen seventy six, Article twenty two.
I'm picking Delaware because that's where ourcurrent president is from. I wish he
would study his own state constitution.When you swear in to be an official

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there in the state of the sovereignState of Delaware, this is the oath
I you give. You do professfaith in God the Father, and in
Jesus Christ his only Son, andin the Holy Ghost, one God blessed
forevermore. I do acknowledge the Holyscriptures of the Old and New Testament to

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be given by divine inspiration. Folks. You can't get more conservative, more
fundamental, more strict Biblicists than thatright there. This is just to give
you an idea of where our foundingfathers were. I give these quotes.
I've got literally thousands of them,enough to where I could quote this,
I could write a I could writea thousand page book on this, a

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dictionary, encyclopedia on the biblical foundationsof our country. It were so Bible
heavy in this country, and Ithink that's what's made us so great.
And folks, the day we forgetthat is the day we're in big time
trouble. So, folks, whereare you on this? Because you know,
you could be the greatest biblical patriotthat ever lived. But if you
didn't really know God, you justknew about a lot about God, and

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you liked his law and all thatkind of good stuff, you still go
on to hell. Folks. Youhave to know God up close and personal.
This is a love affair, yourcall to not just a legal thing
with God, not just the law. But it's about God's love, his
mercy, his forgiveness, his salvaficwork in your life, his redemption,

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and it's all for you, folks. If you're the only person that ever
lived, this would be precisely,very up close and personal for you.
You need to know several things.And before we start, I have to
ask you if you come to thatplace in your life where you know for
certain that if you die tonight yougo to heaven. Next thing, let's
just say you do die tonight.Tonight's your big night before you die.
One hour before you die, Godcomes into your room and he says,

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why shall I let you come intomy heaven? What would you tell him?
Would you know the answer? Well, folks, I'm gonna give you
the answer right now, and we'regoing to go just really one verse,
and that's John three point sixteen forGod to love the world. God loves
you more than you could ever imagine, folks. His love is bigger than
anything I can describe. That theBible even tells us about it. It's
so amazing how great his love is. It's just like heaven. I have

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not seen nor ear heard well aboutHeaven. Well, the same thing,
the same thing of our comprehension ofhis love. It's so big we can't
wrap our brains around it. Wecan't wrap our minds around it. So,
folks, that's the first thing youneed to for God's to love the
world that he gave. See,because God's a lover, he's a giver.
What did he give us? Hegave his only begotten son. Who
is that? That's God, theSon, the Lord, Jesus Christ,

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perfect God, perfect man, allthe way God and all the way Man,
that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever that's you. Again,
folks, believeth in him? Okay, great, believe well you got
to believe. Well, you gotto believe two things. First of all,
you have to believe you can't saveyourself. You're hopeless and help us
without God, that you're lost,damned and going to hell, and that's

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your only future. When you realizethat you are that lost, that you're
that big of a loser if youwill, that you're that incapable, you
have just repented. Jesus kept sayingrepent and believe. So once you know
you can save yourself and you're fullyconvinced of that, you just repent it.
It's part of your faith, partof your belief. The next part
is to believe that only he canthat he did, and then he will
save you from the burning hell,guarantee you everlasting life, his resurrection,

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everlasting life, and heaven forever.Because he died for all your sins,
all of them. The day you'reborn, of the day you die,
you tie us to your greatest sins. He died for all your sins.
His blood washed him all the wayhe was buried, and he rose from
the dead to win for you hisprecious free gift of resurrection, everlasting life.
That's what it is when he sayswho's over believed in him, That's
what that means. That who's overbelieveth in him shall not perish and not

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go to hell, but have everlastinglife. Folks, if you've never done
this before, please do it now. Don't wait till it's too late,
like the old country preacher said,and like the Bible says, now today
is a day of salvation. Well, folks, it's not time for us
to go into our chaplain. Bye, Bob. Testimony time and we have
a very special guest, and Ican't wait to hear his story right now.
It's about how he came to theLord, not the whole story,

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but just part of it. ButChristopher take it away. You know,
for a lot of people who arelistening to what you just said, their
immediate reaction was going to be thevery same as mine when I was going
struggling with my faith. Why wouldit all loving God send us to hell.
It's a good question, and we'vewe've often, we've often talked about
the sides, and occasionally, youknow, I've used the argument, well,

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hell is not a place as somuch as the absence of God,
the absence of love, the absenceof light, the absence of that.
Exactly. One of the challenges thatalways came and people would challenge me in
the church was but it says theBible says very specifically, it's fire of
hell, it's gahnnah, it's this. It's very specific. And this was
a major major problem I had untilI looked at the teaching of the Eastern

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Church on this. And what's interestingabout this, folks, And I want
to share this with you because itmakes sense if you think about it.
What the Eastern Church teaches is thatGod doesn't tend you in hell, you
send yourself. It's absolutely it's anabsolute. But what happens is God never
ceases to love you. Now,the problem is if you turn away from
God, love doesn't hit you aswarming, it hits you as fire right,

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it hits you as something that hurts. So what happens is it's not
that God is hurting you or torturingyou. It's that he's saying, I
love you, I want you,I want you as part of my life.
And what you're feeling if you're ina place of darkness and separation and
this is the church and the rejection, is that this what you're feeling,
the warmth of love as the onesof fire. And I think it's a

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lesson that we don't teach enough inthe Western Church, where you finally page
a major major role in how Ibecame to Christ to understand that difference.
Ye An, thank you Christopher.That is absolutely fantastic. I've had those
same questions, especially when I wasyoung. God always gave me the answer
to some olar what you're saying rightnow. It's almost like his love then,
but eventually, because if your completerejection becomes his wrath, you don't

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want his wrath, folks anyway,And no matter how much God loves you,
you know he has limitations, lovesthe two ways, treet. It
can't just be all about guys.It's gotta be you responding to his left.
And if you don't, and youreject him to the very end,
there's all the first place for youto go place. Yeah, there's a
place that's exactly right. There's aplace left. It's a place you don't

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want to go to. It's aplace where God is not and never will
be. It's called hell. Thankyou Christopher. Well, folks, it
is time for us to close,as we're not closed with a mont Saint
Martin singing a creole goodbye and Godbless all out there? Does this have
to be the end of the nerd? You know I love you. In
the PAMD, I can see acrossthe million stars looking we can pose it's

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the same. I suppose you couldn'tcall little Chris.