The Founders Show #492

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Episode Transcript

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Fight holes, politicians, the dressof digitators and magicians. Trust to see
the money, then you don't.There's nothing to feel, the holes while
they are filling their pockets, fiedholes, the piliticians bouncing down the road.

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Everybody's wish for no more corruption andDysfunction's gonna take me. Divide into
Vention zero, the dashing Hispanic heroredistricting in Louisiana Governor elect Landry and the

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New Orleans situation Meta TikTok and TroyCarter. What do they all have to
do with one another? And thenfinally, what are we going to do
with the New Orleans homeless? Andthat's what you'll hear on our very exciting
show coming up in just a littlebit. And God bless all out there.

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You are now listening to the founders. So the voice of the founding
fathers, your founding fathers, comingto you deep within the bowels of those
mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of theBig Easy, that old Crescent City,
New Orleans, Louisiana, and highup on top of that old Liberty cypress
tree draped in Spanish moss, wayout on the Eagles Branch, this is

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none other. Then you Bengary Babathe Republic Chaplain. Hi mcenry with Christopher
Tidmore. You're roving reporter, residentradical moderate and associate editor of the Louisiana
Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly Dot Debtand Hi, not only do I come
to you from Alfote, Mexico,as I do today, I come to

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you from the house in which Zorrowas born. I'm not making it a
Diego Dela. I'm staying in thehome where Diego della Rivera was born in
Alferente before leaving at age ten togo to Los Angeles and become eventually the
great Spanish massed hero called the Foxor the Zorro. And it's a fante

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is a wonderful place. It's actuallythe town that gave birth to both Los
Angeles and San Francisco. Expeditions toboth left from its main square. And
originally it was the capital of Arizona. Yes, we're just south of Tucson,
Arizona actually where we are at theedge of the Copper Canyon. And

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I was thinking a lot about ElZoro, because going up against the establishment
when you are one of them isnot something that people like to do.
By the way, the hotel houseof El Zoro today is a beautiful hotel
called the Hidalgoli Costella, and Ihighly recommend it as part of the Balorama
collection of hotels here in Mexico.Beautiful place in a beautiful town. But

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I kept thinking about the Zoro myth. You know, you're a member of
the aristocracy, you're kind of theruling class, and you go up against
your peers. Well, that's literallywhat Garrett Graves did when he was sort
of the deputy of Kevin McCarthy,and he didn't really back Scalice for speakership.

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Now I was a high heavy criticof this. We're in Louisiana,
you back louisianaan he voted for him, He didn't oppose him, but he
didn't really wasn't enthusiastic. Well,he's about to pay the political price unless
Governor John Bell Edwards acts. Ialways like Graves. I've always thought him
incredibly thoughtful, particularly on coastal erosionissues. Remember he was head of it.

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He understands environmental issues. He's headof the Aviation Committee and has really
been doing some groundbreaking work on dronesand how it could actually make our lives
a lot easier in deliveries and stufflike that. He's become a very major
player in both Washington as he hasbeen in Baton Rouge. But he may
lose his seat and that has todo with redistrict king depending upon whether Governor

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John Bell Edwards calls a special electionor he waits for Jeff Landry to do
it. Well, either situation isfraught with problems. So for those that
don't haven't been following what's been goingon, Federal Pellet Court judge said,
Louisiana does indeed have to institute asecond African American district. We have a

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one third population that is black.We have six seats. Therefore, at
least two seats have to have ablack majority. And because of that,
she has put a deadline of thefifteenth of January. Now there's one little
problem with that, that's one weekafter governor new governor Governor elect Jeff Landry

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takes office. They keep hoping toget an extension to February or March to
be able to do this, butso far that hasn't really come about,
which leads it in the hands ofGovernor John Bell Edwards to be able to
institute a special session except the Houseand Senate. Under renovation, there may

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not be a place to have aspecial session, at least not in the
legislature. But there's a subtext toall of this, and the subtext is
about political power. So the logicalseat to make a second majority congressional district
is controlled and held by Julia letlowthe widow of the late Luke Letlowe,

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who won the seat originally. Sheherself is a wonderful lady. I've known
her many many years, incredibly kind, nice lady. Her district already has
a sizeable African American population, almostforty percent, and so converting it into
a black majority district is relatively easy. It runs a cent from outer Baton

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Rouge all the way up to Monroe, across the northeastern Louisa, Louisiana.
And if you note that area iscalled the Black Belt not because of a
racial rids. It's because of thedeepness of the soil. It's part of
the Mississippi Delta. It's Faraday Louisianaif you will, right across from Natchez.
It's the birthplace of the Blues andR and B the Mississippi side has

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one of the only rural African Americancongressman in the whole country. It's a
logical district because you have a largeblack populations, rural Black populations running along
that seat, and to convert itfrom a white majority district to a black
majority district is shifting a few votesin and around the Baton Rouge area,

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perhaps out of the second Congressional district. It's a logical seat. The difference
is Julia Letlowe is a heavily likedindividual. Her. You know, Luke
letlow had been a staffer for SteveScalise. He was well liked in Baton
Rouge, and he had worked forBobby Jendall all around. You know,

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the family is really liked. They'reliked. Might be the newest congressman.
Instead, the idea has been toadjust Garrett Graves's district. Garrett Graves's district
has about a twenty seven percent AfricanAmerican registration. You'd have to very much
change that district and basically get ridof all the coastal areas. It goes

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from Baton Rouge down towards the Thibodeauxarea. And for Garrett Graves, who's
very interested in coastal erosion. Aswe mentioned in Environmental and Coastal Matters,
it's taking a very critical part ofwhat he conceives an important part of his
district. Essentially, the idea wouldbe Graves's district would be drawn to if

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either a black majority or a blackpluority more than that in a second,
that would essentially be a big ovalaround on the Baton Rouge area. Steve
Scalise would lose most of his representationin the Florida parishes going towards Tangibahoa,
which is not exactly something he loves. And it's possible even Saint Tammany might

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no longer be in Steve Scalice's districtin exchange for picking up Terrebonne and Lafouche.
He doesn't like that either. Butthe fact of the matter is a
lot of this has to do withpolitics. Garrett Graves may be one of
the more powerful members of the legislativeof the Louisiana delegation, but they are
two more powerful speaker Mike Johnson andSteve Scalise, neither of whom are particularly

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happy that Garrett Graves didn't help theHometown Boys. Since both of them are
obviously Louisiana Loyal and LSU Tigers,and so supposedly was Garrett Graves, So
Garrett Graves could be the recipient ofthis. What I'm curious about in looking
at this design is it would fundamentallychange the way the other seats are laid

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out. And why does that matter. Well, if you did it this
way, you're going to end uppretty clearly with two seats that are either
just fifty point one percent African Americanor less. Technically, you don't have
to draw the seats to have ablack majority. They have to have a

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black polarity, an African American levelthat is sufficient that African American candidates can
compete. No one's exactly sure whatthat number is. Some people say it's
forty eight percent. Some people sayit's forty six percent. Some people say
it's forty five percent. The Mississippilegislature tried to say it was forty percent
and they were completely shot down.Or Alabama Legislature and they were completely shot

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down. So it can't be thatlow. But it has to be at
a sufficient level that African Americans canbe competitive, and there is an upside
to that. If the legislature doesdraw it for Garrett Graves's district, we
might end up with not just one, but two swing districts. Because here's
the other side. Now, TroyCarter has been a very effective congressman,

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and he probably could win under normalcircumstances, and he probably win a competitive
election because he's a rather moderate congressmanfor the Black Caucus. He's pretty much
on the right of most of themembers of the Black Caucus. No screaming
progressive is he. But it's interestingif the seats if you took, if

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you try to create a back majorityseat in Blatge or black polarity seat,
you have to pull up basically theriver parishes along the river. Remember river
parishes have have a African American representation. You had to take out everything from
Saint John the Baptist North out ofTroy Carter's district to create and to create

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a black majority district or a blackpolarity district for Garrett Graves. A lot
of technical stuff, but if youdid that, you'd end up with a
district to Orleans where it's competitive.It may be a Democratic leaning district,
but is it a black leaning district. My friend Mike Bayham made the observation.
He said, well, you trade. If you did it this way,

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you'd trade one black majority seat.And he doesn't think he thinks you
should just have one. But Mikemake it very clear, Mike Bayham doesn't
support a second black majority seat.But he said, if you did that,
you'd be What you'd end up doingis having no black seats. This
is his logic. You'd end upwith a situation where you have a Democratic

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leaning seat in Orleans Parish held usuallyprobably by a Caucasian Helena Moreino type,
and a Democratic white seat in BatonRouge held by who knows. Could Garrett
Graves win it? Nobody knows,but it's a real level of politics.
Graves is being persecuted because he didn'tsupport school, but more importantly, because

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he didn't support Jeff Landry. Sowhy would Jeff Landry care about any of
this? It's simple. Garrett Graveswas an outspoken supporter for governor of Steve
Wagon's pack. They go back tothe Gender administration. They are best friends
on a personal level, but becausehe was so outspoken in opposing Landry's bid

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for governor, the elements are goingto roost. Now, why is this
in the benefit for John Bell Edwards. Well, it's easier to create a
second black seat out of Julia Letlow'sand he might have enough influence in a
legislative special session to do that,and he's got a very good relationship with

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Graves. But more importantly, thequestion is do you want two black majority
seats. It's going to be toughenough with Letlo's seat, and she might
actually be able to win that seat. That's how popular she is among most
communities, not just because she's awidow, because she's a wonderful politician and
a brilliant person personally and one ofthe most approachable people I've ever met in

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politics. And all of this isgoing to come to fore this week.
We're gonna be watching very strongly ifGovernor John Bell Edwards is going to call
a special session. And frankly,where your thoughts high? My thoughts?
Christopher Zoro, the Fox? Wheredid they go? Way did the Scarlett's

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Pimpernel and the Magnificent Mac and allthese seven? You know, where did
they go? Why don't they hereagain? Well, maybe we're bringing them
back, I hope. So theywere great characters in literature and also if
some of them were very real people. But as far as the redistrict King
goes, maybe we need Zoro tocome in and help fix all that.

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You've done a great job explaining thevarious nuances and intricacies of this situation.
I believe that redistrict king is it'simportant. And you know, certainly the
what different groups ought to have somepiece of the pie, so to speak.
They ought to have their part ofthe state of they're part of the
political world where they can be represented. And so that's what redistricting does.

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Now, jerry mandering is okay,we have to create these districts that all
winding around all the places to makesure a certain you know, whatever group
it is, whatever ethnic group orwhatever, has their chance to be part
of the voice of the people,which I think is important. I believe
that's democracy, folks. And solet's just see how it plays on.
It's gonna be very interesting, asalways Louisiana politics. It's certainly always very

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colorful. It may not be nice, and they may not do the right
stuff, but we think we've gotto say it is colorful, and many
times it's quite humorous. So let'sjust see where it all works out,
Christopher, It's gonna be interesting toSeeah this all comes down. I think
Landry will do a good job.I have great confidence in that young man.
I think he's gonna end up beingone of the greatest governors we've ever

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had. Of course, he's gota provence now, but in his prior
jobs he's done great work. Sowe'll see where it goes. And the
other the other folks mentioned seem tobe very interesting and capable, and uh
so let's just see what comes downhere, Christopher. And so, Christopher,
I know you got some more thoughtsfor us. I'm curious about our
next topic. As I just said, Governor Andrew Drew I think is a

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very capable person. But Christopher,New Orleans are tough not to crack.
Can anybody ever help this city?I mean, come on, we got
so many big time problems. ButI understand old uh brother, Jeff,
Jeff Landry. Governor Landry has somepretty good ideas about what he wants to
do with New Orleans and to tryto save us, to try to pull
us out of the humongous mess thatwe're in right now. You think you

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can do it, Christopher, tellus what do you think about Jeff and
the New Orleans City Council, themayor, you know, the whole story
here in New Orleans. What doyou think he can do? Speaking of
Governor elect Jeff Landry, Uh,there've been these transition councils for various issues,
and one of the transition councilors JeffLandry founded was a transition Commission dedicated

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solely to the city of New Orleans. And this has been kind of hopeful.
The Governor elect has spoken about devotingextra resources as well as upping state
commitments to the Second Crescent City,all of which appeared pretty good until he
recently refused to meet with most ofthe city Council, the very people who

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represent the constituents of the metropolis hewishes to overhaul. And what I'm wondering
high is that if this shouldn't givethe average New Orleanian a little bit of
pause as to the Governor's thought processeswhen it comes to New Orleans. Now,
in fairness, Governor Landry has metwith Councilman Oliver Thomas. Most people
don't realize this, but Thomas andLandry actually have a very good friendship with

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one another. Landry was receptive tothe rest of the Council, particularly Helena
and Moreno. He was asked whetheror not he meet with the council,
he said absolutely, and then added, but I want that commission, that
committee to do its business, andthen we'll be visiting with those leaders.
And I think it's probably prettymature forthem to visit. Yet I don't know
anyone including them, and that belowesto the City of New Orleans is being

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run as an absolute professional football team, which is not okay, what the
hell does that mean? I haveno idea, But the point is on
the commission, he appointed several peoplewho helped run or finance the recall effort
against Latoria Cantrell. Now he Idon't begrudge that he can repoint anybody who

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wants. They were decent people.But there's no way Latoria Cantrell is going
to work with the governor if thepeople who try to get her out of
office are sitting on the commission that'sgiving him the recommendations of what to do.
So what is the point of allof this? And I'm going to
make a theory on this. Hi, what Governor Jeff Landry is trying to

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do with this Commission, maybe thesame thing as Governor Tate Reeves did.
In Mississippi, there was an effortlegislatively to essentially take over the city of
Jackson, the capitol. It wasmost the elected officials. They weren't eliminated,
they just their authority was taken awayand taken over by the legislature to

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run the city. And people thoughtthat would cause Reeves to lose. And
it really looked for a while BrandanPresley, the Democrat and second cousin of
Elvis Presley, was going to win. But as it turns out, it
didn't cause much of a backlash.Tate Reeves won rather comfortably in that particular

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election, and whether and then theyhit Tate Reeves's administration is very scandal prone
across the board, so that wasa little bit of a surprise that he
won. Everybody thought it was goingto be very much tighter race than it
was. Could Jeff Landry's political strategybe to essentially emasculate New Orleans is Orleans

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Parish's home rule charter and take directcontrol of many parts of the city.
Possibly is that a bad thing?Well, that remains to be seen.
I tend to believe in democracy forgood or for ill. And if you're
paying the taxes and you vote forthe people who are spending the taxes,
and you vote for the taxes themselves, you probably should have power as close

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to the people as possible. Andin any other parish, Jeff Landry would
agree with that Orleans not a placethat votes for him, not a place
that looks like him. Anyway,what's going to happen next is interesting.
I will point out that New Orleanshas some interesting political or it should say

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unique political arrangements because they predate alot of what happened in other parishes.
And the most notable, of course, is the New Orleans Sewage and Waterboard,
which technically is a state agency.It's rates are approved by the City
Council. It has membership appointed bythe mayor and the City Council, but
it's essentially a state body. Sobeing able to take over the sewer systems

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would be a simple act of thelegislature, doesn't even require supermajority or constitutional
member. It gets trickier with thehome rule Charter of New Orleans, but
there are other things that can bedone. Here's the real part that nobody's
talking about, and look, ifJeff Landry were to do this, he'd
have I'd be actually quite supportive ofit, because remember, my point is

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people should be able to be incontrol of their dollars as close to them
as possible. They should control theirelected officials. They should be elected as
close to them as humanly possible.And there is one other option he has,
which he has not spoken about orgiven indication he has any interest in.
I'm just laying this out, butI hope the Transition Committee members,

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and I know if a couple ofthem actually listen to the show or listening
to what I'm about to propose.It's simple. Orleans Parish is a parish
city government, but it doesn't haveto be. Other parishes have large municipal
bodies, but they also have citieswithin them. East Baton Ridge Parish comes

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to mind, which is a cityparish government. The whole parish elects the
mayor president, but it has smallcities within it, Central and Springs.
Now about the city of Saint George, what if Orleans Parish were to have
the same. Imagine a refounded cityof Carrollton that would be most of the
uptown area, a city of Lakeview, Lake vista a city of Algiers.

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I point out to you there wasthe city of Algiers till nineteen fifty nine.
In that model, those municipalities wouldcontrol roughly half of their property taxes,
probably a little bit more. Andthe critics of it say, well,
that's another layer of government. Wellonly if you think, I think
that government doesn't work well in Harrahanor Kenner compared to Mettery or the rest

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of Jefferson Parish or what's Weego orGretna. Sometimes having authority close to you,
you can go walk into the cityhall and see your councilman makes an
effect. If jefferly Entry wanted toaffect real change in New Orleans, perhaps
the way to do it is tomake sure that authority is closest to the
people. Just my two thoughts,your perception. Huh, my thoughts,

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Christopher. I've wondered about this fora long time, and it's been interesting
that you're bringing this topic up afterwe just did the redistricting for the whole
state of Louisiana, saying that thedifferent groups, you know, different ethnic
groups, different cultural groups, whatever, maybe even different political groups should have
their voice and have some representation.Now what I'm hearing is it's almost like

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you're calling for a redistrict king ofthe city of New Owns, which has
no possibility of that. Right now, In case people don't know, the
extreme majority of the leadership political leadershipof the city is black. I think
they only have about they have aboutsixty percent of the population, but they
end up getting control of everything.And there are almost no white folks in

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any kind of political position in thiscity. And this has been going on
for the past oh forty five years, I guess maybe close to fifty years,
and so it would be nice tosee that, to see that there
are neighborhoods and areas in this citythat could elect people who were more like
them, rather than having one ethnicityget total control over everything just about,

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which is what's happened in this city. That's why I said, you know,
white man didn't a white woman andman didn't only have a chance to
win anything in this city. Andso it's rare, it's very rare that
they ever get any kind of politicalposition, even though they represent forty percent
of the city I guess for Isay white meaning all the other ethnicities combined,
the Vietnamese and Hispanics, whites,whatever, we have no real place

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or political position in city. It'salmost one hundred percent black. So yeah,
I think it's a good idea.And as far as each area breaking
up into little cities or towns likeyou said, Harrahan Kenner and you know,
the other smaller municipalities, and inJefferson's parents, they seem to do

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fine running their own little little placesin the world, some of them big
places in the world. So Ithink that it's a good idea. Christopher,
I'm with you on that. Maybethat will happen. Uh, maybe
Landry will Landry will some kind ofway be able to push that, be
able to pull that off, andthat would be great. So let's just

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see what happens. Jeff's a verysmart fella. He knows how to,
you know, get things done.I don't know, you know, if
the governor of the Salal Music canintervene that much in or with the city
of New Orleans, I don't know. Interesting that they control the swerge and
waterboard. Maybe if he says I'mgonna I'm gonna pull the plug on the
swags or I'm gonna refuse to pullthe plug, things start backing up and

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stinking up real quickly in this city. Maybe that might put some pressure on
our positives. Let's share a littleof that power. We want to we
want to get we need to getthis uh city drained. I'm kidding,
folks, but uh, I don'tknow what he'll do. It could be
interesting to see how this all worksout. Very good thoughts Christopher, again,
thank you. So let's see whatwhat are we going to go into

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And let me ask you something,Christopher, I want to know this.
You know, Hickory Dickory dock tickDoc the mouse ran up the clock,
folks. Is it time for TroyCorner. Well, let's see what Christopher
has to say about this. Andhere he is, Christopher did Moore,
Christopher Tidmore coming to you from Mexicofrom Alpha Ka literally doing this show in

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the home of where Diego de laVara was born El Zorro himself before at
the age of ten, moving towith his family to Los Angeles. But
I wanted to talk about something thatis a little closer to home. By
the way, before I get intoour next topic, h I do want

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to say there's been great response fromarn my comments about last week about Meta
this is Facebook essentially Jeff Zuckerburam sendinglobbyists to baton Rouge and to Washington to
take out TikTok. And while bothof us expressed legitimate national security concerns about
TikTok, we both pointed out thatuse having a social media giant trying to

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silence its competitors is essentially limiting freedomof the press, because your press is
your ability to put out information anddata, and TikTok's very good about that,
especially with young people. I pointedout that as a bookstore owner for
the Garden District Bookshop, that weuse TikTok for book premieres and new books

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and it's very effective amongst young people, and that you can come out and
say, you know, I've gotsome national security concerns, but one company
shouldn't be able to put out another. Well. Has been great response to
both your comments and my comments aboutthat, and we're sort of pushing this
for the congressional delegation to hear this, particularly Representative Troy Carter. Carter is

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one of those people who's on thefence when it comes to a national bill,
and I'm curious what he has.But I think it's thing that Congressman
Carter ought to be looking at.Because the fastest growing group of TikTok recipients
as young African American men and women. And so we sort of send that
hashtag to Representative Troy Carter and say, you might want to listen to last

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week's show and get our perspective onthis, because having big media control things.
But your thoughts high before we gointo our topic. So Carter,
you've been warned, you met up, pay attention. But you know,
Christopher, we got so many problems, and of course one of our biggest
problems is a homeless situation all overthis country, but especially here in New
Orleans. You got any thoughts aboutthe homeless right now? I mean,

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I know you've studied it for yearsand you have some pretty good insights.
Tell us what are you saying withthe homeless? Hey, you think San
Francisco can help us? Maybe theyseem to be cleaning up their mess.
Maybe, and then maybe we reallydon't want to follow their example. This
looks like just a flash and apan and a big show, but no
big deal. So what do youthink, Chris for about the homeless situation

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right now, Well, I thoughtwe talk about the fact that the homeless
encampments high near Choppatulas and the PontraTran Expressway basically the bridge, are being
cleaned up this week. Eleven hundredpeople are being relocated to housing. And
the reason why it captures my attentionis not only has this been a long

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term problem in New Orleans, butit's a long term problem in many cities,
most notably San Francisco. So,of course this week was the Great
Summit between President she of China,Joe Biden and San Francisco. Used the
word summit very lightly because they basicallyit was full of lack of sound,

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no fury, and it signified absolutelynothing. It was pretty much a wasted
time, except that the city ofSan Francisco resolved to clean itself up as
the world's attention turned to it inthe two superpowers met in its city.
Of the things it did was itgot homeless people just off the street,

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particularly the major encampments that had madeNorth Beach in other areas almost unlivable.
Were some of my favorite places inSan Francisco, which remains one of my
favorite cities in the world, andit showed that you can get homeless.
I mean, you can restore thequality of life in cities if you just
decide to do it, and we'renow doing it in New Orleans. Now,

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yes, quite a few homeless arelooking for a place to live,
and the City of New Orleans isdoing a pretty effective job of finding subsidized
housing for eleven hundred of them.But one of the points that was made
in this entire cleanup of the Chopatulisis in a month, a good minority
of these people, dare I saysomething close to a majority might be back

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on the street. And people arevery hideously reacting to that. But fortunately,
one of the problems we have withhomelessness is that it's itself a mental
illness. It's the idea that Idon't want to live in an apartment,
I can be on the home.And this is something I wanted to particularly
get your view on this because thepublic doesn't know. But you're one of

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the principals on board members of NewOrleans Mission. You and David Botner have
been working together for years and asrunning a homeless charity, the biggest in
the city, which basically offers threeweeks immediately off the street, and then
drug training gets people back in life. But you've seen that you can literally
put somebody in an apartment, givethem the whole life, and they're back

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on the street. And the reasonI'm bringing this up is there's a bleeding
heart in me as well, andI don't want anybody to be given.
But if homelessness is a mental illnessand a person's choosing to be on the
street, there's something to be saidthat we as a society have to have
the willpower to say, no,you can't live in a part, No

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you can't live on the street.No. There's a reason why we have
vagrancy rules because when you do that, it spawns other forms of crime.
You might not be a criminal,but that look that broken windows theory creates
an element. And if you needmental help and you're not getting it,
we should be able to mandate thatif you're breaking the law by living on

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the street, you're breaking the law. You need treatment. And that's one
thing Ed Carlson, an Odyssey Houseand others have talked to us about that.
There isn't much in the courts thatsays you have to get treatment.
Most of these people have drug problems. I'm not saying every one of them,
but it's the kind of common connectionand we act as if living on

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the street is a normal thing.San Francisco proved in the Summit, and
New Orleans is proving cleaning up thisencampment near Chopatulas in the Bridge, that
we as a society can just say, no, you're not going to do
it. We're cleaning you up.We'll offer you options, but you know
what, ultimately it's in your hands, and there really are options out there
for the homeless. They just don'tlike it. Like the New Orleans Mission.

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Talk about it a little bit ifyou would. Hi, Well,
yes, Christopher a topic dear tomy heart. I've been working with the
New Orleans Mission for over thirty yearsnow. David has been with us.
He's our director, He's done miracles. He's really one of the most amazing
people in the ministry I've ever gottento know. He's a young guy,
got a lot of a big future. He's already done enough to say he
lived a full life, if youwill, but I trust he'll be with

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us so many years into the futurewith the New Orleans Mission. And uh,
yeah, it's something that I've alwaysbeen ahead of burden about concern about
and I've spent years doing things withthe homeless, trying to help him and
whatnot. But perhaps, Christopher,we need a help in hand from a
local New Orleans man, a manwho's an expert on this, a man

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that rush Limba called upon to giveus help and advice with the homeless.
So I'm going to share a fewof his words with us right now,
Christopher, as we now listen toThey're Great's frog Man Henry. He should
understand this topic. He ain't gotno I know he ain't got no hoe.

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I know PA's alone. Oh,I ain't got any money. I
ain't got a board, I ain'tgot the dough, not even a brother.

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I'm malone, brawl, I ain'tgot on. I want you ain't
to me the me, I wantyour name to me. Please ain't to
me. I'm malone and brawl.I ain't got home. We folks.

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That was Clarence Frogman Henry. Andagain, what a great singer. Uh.
He's saying asking for advice. Canyou help me? Can you give
me a hand? Can you tellme what to do? In this song?
And so that's what we're gonna attemptto do right now in the short
little bit of time we have left. And that is Uh. The homeless

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are an interesting group, of course, and they have a lot of needs.
It's a very a great tragedy inAmerica that there should be anybody homeless.
With all the opportunity you see allthe people from foreign countries pour into
this country. You never catch themas homeless. They'll they'll find something to
do. And uh, a lotof it is mental illness. And you
know that you have this thing calledchronic homelessness, which means you could take

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a fellow who's got this big problemand you could buy them a mansion,
get them chauffeurs, big beautiful cars, and you know, have many great
meals served every day. And yetevery night that guy would go out,
he'd leave the house and he goessleep on the street. He's got a
problem. There are many homeless folkswho do not have drug or alcohol problems,
are not addicts. It's a mysteryto trying to figure out why they're

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homeless, but they are. Thebottom line is they are and they need
help. So that's what we doat the Normanst. Mission. We have
a remarkable program we're the largest providerfor the homeless and the Gulf South one
of the largest homeless missions in America. And you know, we put out
like three hundred to five hundred mealsout every day, three times a day.

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You get there, you get threeweeks for free of a cot and
a hot and you know everything elseyou need to clean up and get yourself
together for three weeks free. It'sall free. And then if you want
to get help. We encourage thehomeless to get help, and so we
have programs for them, rehabilitation programsand if they go through the programs,
one year program again it's free.The Great Old Press of fr free.

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We're one of the only places likethis that offers everything for free. And
it's not government has nothing to do. We can't let the government in because
if the government gets it, itgoes down. We won't make it,
it'll destroy the program. We havea spiritual program. The spiritual programs are
dynamic. AA has proven that tremendously, so like getting ten times results of

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our state hospitals if you will inmental hospitals, and so another good example
of this is Angola, the mostdangerous and violent prison in America for decades
till Warden Kane allowed the Southern BaptistConvention to put a seminary right here out

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of New Orleans. The Knowles Baptista Life of Seminary here in New Orleans,
a seminary and a Bible college insideof the prison. He was offered
LSU, but he said it doesn'twork. We tried it before. Secular
programs just don't get it. Iknow, we want to get an educated
so I think better chance when theyget out. He just doesn't work.
They go right back to crime.They're more now, more educated prisoners instead

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of criminals, instead of you know, going to get good jobs. And
he says it's only spiritual programs work. Well, the New Orleans, I
mean the Southern Baptist Convention picked upon that and they Kane allowed them to
set up a Bible colls and aseminary inside of the prison. The results
are phenomenal. Angle is now themost peaceful and non criminally behaved prison in

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America. Maymber. A lot ofthe criminals in prisons act just like criminals
as they commit murders. They're gettingdrugs, are doing all the bad things
that they would do on the outside. All that's going on from Angola and
Goal is amazing. In each section, there are many many different sections.
It's a huge facility, so theybreak it up into many different sections.
Each section has its own chapel builtby the prisoners themselves, providing a chaplain

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from the prisoners themselves. This isa amazing to see what's happened. And
we do the same thing at NewOrleans Mission. We use spiritual principles,
the Word of God, the HolyBible, and it changes people's lives,
It changes their hearts, it changestheir minds, and you get the criminal
out of that person. You getthe good person that was in there,
that could be in there, andyou bring them out. Then you bring

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them out there. Reason they've becomea good person is because the Lord Jesus
is in them and he comes outwith them. And it's an amazing experience.
Folks. If you ever get achance, you've got to go down
to the Mission. You'll we'll giveyou a great tour down there, give
you a great lunch. The foodis fantastic down there. Or eating them
many times and it'll just stun youto see the amazing things that the New

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Orleans Mission is doing right now.Right under your nose right there, and
the you know CBD right right bythe expressway there, the right across with
that beautiful Saint John the Baptist GatholicChurch with a big gold, beautiful steeple
right across from that is the NewOrleans Mission. Go check it out.
We also have facilities. Camp ison the north Shore, one for the
ladies, one for the men ofsixty eight acre campus for the men in

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old camp boys Camp. And thenand that's near Lacomb and then near Haymond
is another one which was one say, resort, a beautiful twenty acre resort
for the ladies. So it's we'vegot these amazing purposes and now we've even
got one in Florida. Folks,God's doing great things for this mission.
You need to check us out.Please check us out. Well, it's
time for us go. As wetake another break, we'll be right back

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with the chaplain by by patriotic moment, gospel moment, and watchman on the
Wall, Rescue, recovery, reengagement. These are not just words.
These are the action steps we atthe New Orleans Mission take to make a
positive impact on the homeless problem facingthe greater New Orleans area. Did you

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know in twenty twenty, homelessness inour community increased by over forty percent.
We are committed to meet this needthrough the work being done at the New
Orleans Mission. We begin the rescueprocess by going out into the community every
day to bring food, pray,and share the love of Jesus with the

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hopeless and hurting in our community.Through the process of recovery, these individuals
have the opportunity to take time out, assess their life, and begin to
make new decisions to live out theirGod given purpose. After the healing process
has begun and lives are back ontrack, we walk each individual as they

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re engage back into the community tobe healthy, thriving, and living a
life of purpose. No one ismeant to live under a bridge. No
one should endure abuse, No oneshould be stuck in addiction. The New
Orleans Mission is a stepping stone outof that life of destruction and into a
life of hope and purpose. Partnerwith us today. Go to www dot

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Neworleans Mission dot org or make adifference by texting to seven seven ninety eight
bows the two shoes Well, folkswere back and this is Chaplain Himachenry,
and you are listening to the Founder'sshow, and it's now time for us

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to go into our chaplain. Byebah, patriotic moment. We just take
a brief moment to remind you ofthe biblical foundations of our country, our
Judeo Christian jurisprudence. And today we'vegot a very interesting fello. You know,
we pull people from pre colonial times, I mean from the far far
past, even up to recent times. And today we're going to talk about
a man barn In eighteen seventy nineMarch seventeenth in Germany, he became He

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started teaching himself calculus at the ageof fourteen. With a doctorate from the
University of Zurich, he wrote onelectromagnetic energy, relativity and statistical mechanics.
He predicted that a ray of lightfrom a distance start would appear to bend
as it passed near the Sun.When an eclipse confirmed this, The London
Times headline ran November seventh, nineteennineteen. Revolution in science, New theory

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of the universe, Newtonian ideas overthrown. They really wanted to with thrown,
but it was close and that's amazing. This was the note famous Nobel Prize
winner and Time Magazine's Man of theCentury, Albert Einstein. Einstein's first visit
to the s was to raise fundsfor the Jerusalem Hebrew University. On his

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third visit in nineteen thirty two,he took a post at Princeton, and
then, when the Nazis took overGermany, Albert Einstein stayed in the US,
becoming a US citizen in nineteen forty. I think the lord he stayed.
Einstein's serve of relativity is the basisfor applying atomic energy. Einstein's warning
that Nazis could create an Animbaum ledFDR to set up the Manhattan Project,

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though not believing, which led it, of course, to our Adambaum,
though not believing in a personal Goduntil his latter years, when, after
his discuss every of the Big Bang, Einstein declaredes belief in God as his
math proved it to himself. TheSaturday Evening Post in October on October twenty
sixth, nineteen twenty nine, publishedan interview with George Sylvester Vrek in which

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Einstein stated, as a child,I received instruction both in the Bible and
in the Talmud. I am aJew but I am enthralled by the luminous
figure of the Nazarene. No onecan read the Gospels without feeling the actual
presence of Jesus. His personality pulsatesin every word. No myth is filled
with such a life. Three yearsbefore Einstein died, he was asked to

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be Israel's second president, but declineddue to age. The Periodic Tables the
ninety ninth element, discovered shortly afterhis death in nineteen fifty five, was
named Einsteinium. Princeton's University's fine hullhas inscribed Albert Einstein's word, God is
clever but not dishonest, folks.Isn't that wonderful to think we had a

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great American like that? What anamazing story. What an influence that man
had on our country? Again,another godly influence, folks. Do you
have an influence on you right now? Can you state with Albert Einstein about
how beautiful and wonderful the Savior isand how real he is, the Lord
Jesus Christ. Can you understand thatGod is clever but he is not dishonest.

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Do you know God that I'm closeand personal to say that? Well
you can right now as we nowgo into our chaplain Bye bye gospel moment
where I just take a brief momentto show you how that you can know
that you know that you know yourGod's child. You just saved from a
burning helen, guaranteed heaven. Andit goes like this. It's the gospel,
the Bible says, for the Gospelis the power of God into salvation

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to whosoever believeth Folks, all yougot to do is believe in the gospel.
What is the gospel? Well,the Bible tells us. For I
declare into you the gospel that Jesusdied for all of our sins. I'm
all of a meaning, Folks.From the day you're born and the day
you die, you tiniess to yourgreatest sins. Died from all that.
Christ died for all of our sins, was buried, and then rose from

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the dead, according to the scripture. And folks, he did all that
to pay your sin problem off andto guarantee you his everlasting resurrection life.
If you've never taken this gift before, take it now. And it is
a gift. You can't work forit, and you can't earn it,
You'll never be good enough for it, so give up. Script says,
all of our righteous, all ofyour righteous are as filthy rags. Doesn't

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do you any good. All God'slooking for as the faith of a little
child. Jesus said, lets youcome as a little child. You don't
know why he's entering speaking about Einstein, actually, which is I read a
book about one of the books I'veread about them, where it talks about
how he always thought like a child. He said, he said, as
long as he thought like a child, he kept his creative genius, but
when he started getting sophisticated, helost it. So folks says something about

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kids. Better think about that aswe're thinking about God. They just have
a simple, childlike belief of faith. God wants to see that in you.
Won't you do that? You knowyou don't have to be a kid
to do that, You could bean oh man. In fact, the
older we get, the more we'rebecoming like George, you know, the
second childhood. That means maybe wehave a better chance. And if we
didn't get it in the middle years. But you don't have to wait till

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then, do it right now,Just believe that Jesus died for all of
your sins. Believe you. Firstof all, you can't save yourself,
and that's repentance when you know that, you know that, you know you're
hopeless, and help us with ourGod and your damn to a burning hell.
When you come to that point inyour life and you know there's nothing
good in you, there's no wayyou could save yourself. You just repented,
and now you're free to finally believethat only he can, that he

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did, and that he will saveyou from a burning hell and guarantee you
ever lasting life because He did diefor all of your sins, was buried
and rose from the dead to winfor you that precious free gift of heaven,
salvation from hell and heaven forever foryou, where you get to walk
and dance on the golden streets withyou with our wonderful, precious best friend
we could ever have, the LordJesus Christ. Well, folks, it
is now time for us to go, and so you believe, folks,

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but it is time now for usto go to the watchmen on the wall.
We just took a brief moment toremind you of the fact that Jesus's
coming back really soon. There's somany signs are over two hundred prophecies.
Jesus sad when you see all thesethings coming together, I'm at the door.
Well they're all coming together now,it's all coming to a grand finale.
All these many different signs are allstarting to happen all around us right
now, right before. So maybewe're not even paying attention, but it's

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happening. Let's go to science justreal quickly, because after all we talked
about Albert Einstein. Do you knowthat knowledge is doubling every hour? Now?
Do you know that up until theGutenberg Press, up until you know,
sixteenth century Germany, folks, orfifteenth century or late fifteenth century Germany,
knowledge was set could be all roundedup in just a couple of books,

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all of it combined in just afew books. And once we started
printing books, then all of asudden, noledge began to double. It
took about one hundred years coming intoknowledge double, and it's kept doubling,
but it would take you know,would take a few one hundred years,
and then decades, and then ina decade and then finally every couple of
years. It's every hour now,folks, And that's why AI is out

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of control. You know, Jesusdoesn't come back, have to come back
for Armageddon, for the Great apocalypse. We're doing it to ourselves with a
I Folks, it's a dangerous time. Do you know that the founders of
all this Silicon Valley, the multibillionaire computer people, do you realize that

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they are building bunkers from themselves toprotect themselves for the coming AI apocalypse.
They believe it's gonna happen. Folks. You need a bunker, and I'm
gonna tell you the greatest bunker youcan ever get, and you don't have
to be a billionaire to get it. You don't have to have any money.
That bunker's name is the Lord JesusChrist, built by the Heavenly Construction
Company. You need to get inhis bunker. You need to get in
him, folks, and you'll besafer than you could ever be anywhere else.

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So right now, the way youget into the key to it is
to believe that, with the faithof a little child, that he did
die for all your sins. WasBarion rose from the dead. If you've
never done that before, please doit now. Don't wait till it's too
light. Like the Bible says nowtoday is the day of salvation. Well
focus, not time for us toclose with a mind Saint Martin singing a
creole goodbye and so good being withyou, and thank you so very much

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God bless you all of it.We call you cree goodbye. Please think
we're just wasted the time a me, all three saving of me. There's

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time for a creo goodbye.