The Founders Show #494

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Branch. This is none other thanyour Spngary Bobby other republic Chaplain High mcenry
with Christopher Tidmore. You're roving reporter, resident radical moderate and associate editor of

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the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weeklydot net. And Hi, we have
a special guest joining us via phonelink from Massachusetts. Her name is Jennifer
Franks. She's chair of the draftcommittee for the for Romney Mansion and she's
worked as a campaign staff person forboth Republicans and Democrats. She's also the
founder of Sloan Strategies, a strategiccommunications firm based in Boston. And Jennifer,

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welcome to the program. And yes, Jennifer, it's nice to meet
you. It's we start off witha piece of news. As soon as
you had called in, I getright across our monitors in the studio,
panic setting in amongst amongst Biden aidesabout the polling. Meanwhile, on Thursday

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you had the gag order being reinstitutedon Donald Trump. They're polling datas that
say about a third of each partyhas a problem with the president of their
prospective presidential nominee. But at thesame time, nobody's really catching on.
For all the talk about Nikki Halley, she's got about the same polling position

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in the Republican primaries as frankly MarionWilliamson does in the Democratic primaries. And
so there's been a lot of discussionabout Joe Manchin and the no Labels ticket,
but you've taken it to a stepfurther. You've created a petition which
I will say, for disclosure purposes, I signed, hadn't met you before.
I was just intrigued by this oftrying to bring back the twenty twelve

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presidential candidate who's leaving politics and isone of Joe Manchin's best friends. That,
of course, is former Massachusetts governorand current Utah Senator Mitt Romney as
a presidential candidate in a draft RomneyMansion ticket. And I'm curious about your
thoughts on it, but more particularly, do you think Mitt Romney would run,
because as recently as last week ina CBS interview he said, no,

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two strikes and you're out as apresidential candidate. There won't be a
third. What are your thoughts?Well, thank you for that intro.
You just made me sound absolutely fantasticand very excited about what we're doing here.
So I appreciate that, and Iappreciate you signing the petition for us
at draft Romney mansion dot com.So my feeling on Senator Romney saying that

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he will not run or does nothave plans to run, that's truly what
he's saying is he doesn't have plansto run. But if folks remember,
and very interestingly, in my greathome state of Massachusetts, he had no
plans of running back then for governor, and a group of concerned citizens that
felt that there was a pathway forwardto victory for him running and showed him

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the numbers. As Romney is anumbers guy, the data showed that there
was a past to victory, andhe ended up becoming the next governor of
the Commonwealth Massachusetts, and he dida great job for Massachusetts. So I
don't believe in two strikes, you'reout. I think round draft pick is
a great idea. We've seen itdone before, and I think that now

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is the moment and the perfect timefor him to lead on a ticket,
a unity bipartisan ticket with Mansion.They have proven to work very very well
together across party lines, and Ithink this is the moment. If we're
ever going to get any moment tochange the trajectory of our country, this

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is it. So we've got asituation where the no Labels ticket has gotten
on. I believe it's twelve statesand it's about to be nineteen, and
they're aiming for at least thirty fivestates by about March fifth. The remainder,
you have to be a candidate,You have to be a listed candidate
to get on the ballot for president. But that's one of the questions.
One of the metrics that Mitt Romneyor Joe Manchin for that matter, who's

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looking at it, is can yoube on enough state ballots? Can you
get on fifty ballots or close enoughthat you'd really have a realistic chance of
winning the presidency and not being aspoiler? Is that feasible outside of the
duopoly of the two party system.Well, so I can't really speak.
We're not directly affiliated with the NoLabels. I do have faith and believe

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that they will be able to achievewhat they step forth in doing and being
able to get on the ballad.So our mission is to make sure that
we have an insurance policy and thatwe are the drafted Unity ticket to be
on the ballad with chosen by NoLabels. So they're working hard towards their
goals. We're going to work hardtowards our goals. And nobody wants to

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see a Biden Trump based off sowell has been very attaintive. Right here,
did you say nobody he's come bythe giant rallies. I don't know,
nobody ware, I don't, butI well, you all are very
limited in your social contacts. Iguess I'm sorry for that. I could

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give you some good lessons on howto make friends and info those people.
I did that for years. Excusemy partner, but he's I will say,
Jennifer, he makes a very validpoint right now. It's interesting that
a lot of the conversation, andincluding Mitt Romney's to Joe Manchin, when
Joe Manchin started thinking about running forpresident, Romney it used to be I'd

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say reportedly, and now he justcame out and said it publicly. He
said to Yo Manson, if yourun for president, you could re elect
Trump. What is an interesting thinghas happened though, and it's the fact
that on a head to head contest, every polling data that I'm seeing from
across the board, no matter whothe polling service is, is that Trump
is defeating Biden on a head tohead contact. And all the other Republicans

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know well, he's suppeated the Republicansin the country. So my question is
it boils down to how do yourespond? And I know you get a
lot of this in Massachusetts from alot of Biden supporters that if you have
a third party ticket, which technicallyno labels wouldn't be. But let's just
for the sake of argument, ifyou have Romney mansion ticket that that's not
going to reelect Donald Trump, it'snot going to be Like, how do

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you say that, basically, thisis not a spoiler ticket. Well,
the way I would take it's nota spoiler ticket is we're having we have
a Republican senator and a Democratic senatorcoming together. They've, like I've said
before, they've proven that they cancome across party lines and they're really centrist,
I mean quite frankly, so thiswould be a unity ticket. More

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so, I don't think it'd bea spoiler in any way. I think
bringing those two senators together, likethey've proven to do throughout their career together
working in the Senate, this wouldbe a centrist ticket. This would be
a no label ticket. So Idon't think it'd be tipping it in either

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direction. Now. I think thatpersonally. My opinion is if they separately
ran, then sure maybe it wouldtip either or or they'd be spoilers.
But I think together is the pointand the draft Committee and what we're doing
to see if there's a path tovictory, which we do believe there will

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be, and we're going to dothat through polling and showing them the numbers
to draft them to run together.Joining us in the Founder's show is Jennifer
frank She's chair of the Draft RomneyMansion Committee. There's a petition online,
ladies and gentlemen, if you wantMitt Romney and Joe Manchin to run essentially
on the No Label's candidate ticket forthe presidency of the United States. She's

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joining us about the logic of thisdraft Romney ticket and whether what kind of
impact it could have on the presidentialrace. With Hig mckenry and Christopher Tidmore,
and let's get into this. There'salso we keep talking about three,
but realistically there's four or five inthis presidential race. So the one thing
that nobody's paying attention to, andI've been astonished by it, or few

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have, is that RFK Junior isat about sixteen percent of the polls,
drawing from both presidential candidates, andFrankly, you got Jill Stein running again
on the Green Party ticket. Thatwas a good one percent of the vote
in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. By the way, it was the
margin of Trump's victory in those states. In twenty sixteen. She didn't run
by the way in twenty twenty,and you have Cornell West still talking about

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running. He's having ballot access issues, but he's a very palatable force in
the African American community. So I'vealways said, Jennifer, there was never
a chance of a third party candidate. There was a very good chance of
a fourth and fifth party candidate.That if the dawopoly of the parties were
broke apart, it was because notthere wouldn't be a third there wouldn't be
a third alternative. There would bea fourth or fifth alternative that would scramble

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the votes in multiple states. Yourthoughts, my thoughts on Matt are I
guess I'm trying to Can you sortof repeat that at the lab basically,
basically, do you think it helpsyour case that there wouldn't be a third
party candidate? But there are thirdquote third preaty candidates, other candidates in

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the field, like Robert Kennedy andothers that are drawing from both candidates already,
And that's what I'm saying, Doesit help or hurt your cause?
I think it could be helpful forour cause in terms of like you had
stated, there being an independent candidatesuch as Kennedy trying to run that can,
oftentimes we've seen be a spoiler ortake votes from either side. I

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think that we're not. This isreally just a starting point of a unity
ticket and a movement that we're creatinghere. There are a lot of people
that have sort of had enough ofboth sides of the major two parties and
trying to come together as a centristgroup of folks that are just really fed

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up with how things are going ornot going really. So I think that
seeing an independent ticket that can bevery difficult, that can be a tipping
point, that can be a spoiler. But I think that what we're doing
our idea here in drafting these twosenators together as a starting point and see

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where that data takes us when westart pulling. And also, again thank
you for shouting out the petition atDraftromney mansion dot com, because we need
to show that there's a grassroots supporteffort there as well. I think this
is going to be something much differentfrom a third party or fourth party.
This is a no labels ticket,if you will. Jennifer Frank's strategic communications

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expert from Boston. The chair ofthe draft Romney Mansion committee is going together,
and I'm curious. I want tothrow it on this about whether it
affects the presdential race. There's oneinteresting thing. The No Labels organization came
up with a sort of loose campaignplatform that any candidate has to evode,

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and they when they addressed abortion,they addressed, we believe in a woman's
right to choose, but we alsobelieve the right to life should be valued
at a stage as well. AndI was curious about that because Mitt Romney
is in a curious position, asis Joe Manchin. Mitt Romney was governor
Massachusetts, he was pro choice.He runs for president, he's pro life.
He himself has sort of weighed thisissue on both ends. Joe Manchin

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says he's pro choice, but hesupports a fifteen week limit on abortions nationally
while he supports it things. AndI'm curious about the politics of that,
because you're going to have two partyestablishments that are pretty dug in on this
particular issue. Interestingly, the lasttime Mitt Romney ran for President Trump,
Donald Trump was pro choice, sothat was kind of interesting. In twenty

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twelve made things in the record whereRomney was pro life, but Joe Biden
used to be pro life and nowhe's pro choice. So there's nobody in
this race has exactly consistent viewpoints onthis particular issue. But I'm curious,
how do you read that needle onwhat has been the hot button of American
politics since the repeal of Roe v. Wade. Well, I'm going to

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back right out of what you're tryingto get me into right there. So
I am not touching that. Iam a political off and I am running
data and numbers and pulling, andthat is my lane. So I am
not touching that issue or speaking onbehalf of anybody and what their their platform
is on that, or speaking onanyone's behalf in that nature. So I

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am simply run the chair of thedraft Romney mansion committee. I had I
had to try. I had totry. Jennifer, all right, well,
good, nice, try Let melet me, let me let me
try something more in your lane.What kind of numbers do you think you
have to show for Mitt Romney tobe interested in running for president on this
ticket? What numbers do you thinkwhat are the thresholds that you have?

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Well, I don't have those exactsorry to interrupt you. I don't have
those exact figures right this moment foryou, but we certainly will release any
pulling that we do as it comesin, any numbers that come in.
We've said that we'll be completely transparentin our polling and in our fundraising effort.
So you know, we're trying toour whole basis right now, and

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our whole starting point, if youwill, is getting support, getting folks
to our website, getting them tosign the petition, through that grassroots effort,
of showing Romney and Mansion that thereis support that we do want to
see if there is a path tovictory that others want to see, if
there's a path victory. Also raisingthe money so that we can start pulling

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in the swing states, which Ibelieve we have put out there that we
will start in Arizona and then goon to Michigan. So right now,
I can't tell you what we wantto see those numbers to be, but
I will tell you that we willbe transparent and release that data as it
comes to us. Jenner Franks isthe kind There is a side effect of
all of this, and you've gota lot of people. Hi's a good

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example of this. A lot ofmind pocotic friends are good examples of this.
Who might actually, you know,under different circumstances, I mean high
I think you voted for Mitt Romneyin twenty twelve campaign. Yeah you actually
were? You actually worked for himchoice we had? Yeah, well,
I voted for Mitt Romney in twentytwelve. And I'm curious, though,
what would you tell people who aremore afraid of the other side than the

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person. So a lot of people, this is a lot of Biden supporters
very discontented with Biden, but they'regoing to come home because they're afraid of
Trump. A lot of Trump supporters, very discontented Trump, would come home
to the GOP because they're very proudof Biden. What do you say to
those people that are more afraid ofthe other side about taking a chance on
a Romney mansion ticket if it wereto come together, or a mansion ticket

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with somebody else or a Republican Youknow, I'm not saying you're advocating that,
but if there's not a Romney mansionticket, It's been pretty clear that
John Huntsman and Larry Hogan to Republicanswould gladly run with Joe Manchin on the
vice presidential thing, what do yousay to those people who are raid to
take a chance, this is ouronly chance. I mean, I understand
being afraid to take a chance,because, as you mentioned when I first

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came on, I want them forMassachusetts. So I you know, I
don't was it Romney or Mansion whosaid it first that they feel politically homeless.
I have felt politically homeless for avery long time. I've I've worked
with Democrats, I've worked with Republicans. I really have always found myself to
be a centrist, independent thinker andabout the person in what issues and values

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and morals I hold that another thata candidate or a politician may hold in
high regard. So I mean,I do, I do know that there
is fear out there. There arefolks that are not going to want to
vote against their party. There arefolks that are going to want to only
vote with their party because they don'tlike how far the other side has gone.

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So I just really believe that thisis the moment where whether it's Romney
or Mansion. And I'm not lookingway too far ahead here, but I
think regardless, like I keep saying, it's a starting point. We need
to have more options because I don'twant to choose between the lesser of two
evils, and I think there area lot of folks. I think two
thirds of American voters don't want tosee that happen either, and that seems

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to be the way the numbers areshowing that that is going to be the
matchup. That's where we're headed.So I mean, I think we're just
going to have to show them thatthere's a better ticket. Jennifer Frank's chairman
of the Draft Romney Mansion Committee.If somebody wants to sign your petition or
help your organization, how would theydo it? So we would love folks

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to go ahead and visit draft RomneyMansion dot com. Right at the top
right hand corner as you have doneas well, there's a sign the petition
button that folks can click on andit will take you right to our change
dot org website, petition and page. Would love folks to sign up.

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We need to show that there's thisthis support to at least see where this
this draft can take us. Allright, Jennifer, I want to thank
you for joining us here on theFounder Show with Hi mc Henry and Christopher
Tidmore and we've got you know,we want you to keep us posted as
this process comes in. You havean open invitation to come on the air
and let us know what's going on. Please keep us posted if you would.

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I appreciate that. I would loveto. I would love to thank
you, Jennifer. Thank you.And I know you're a hard working gal
and you do a great job forwhatever candidate you're representing. So kudos for
you and the hard work and thegreat job you do. Jennifer. No,
I may not agree with you,but I agree I will respect you
and honor you for the person thatyou are. Yes, as well,

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Thank you man, Jennifer Franks.We got no labels. We're getting together.
How about that some good practice here. Thank you. Yes, I
have your number, sounds and Icallogists my number register on your phone,
So uh yeah, Jennifer Franks,thank you very much for joining us in
the Founder Show. I appreciate it. God bless you, God bless you,

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thank you. Thank you. You'rewelcome. And Hi. You've been
You've been very before we go tothe break, you've been very tolerant on
all of this. You said nothingto say, but I feel a little
bit of comedy. Yeah, Ifigured some of them. Certainly, a
very large portion of our audience Ithink would appreciate this, And I'm curious.
You know, Ronney says he's notgoing to go because he's already got

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two strikes, but he's forgetting hissecret weapon, his magic underwear. Oh,
come on, he has, butit's true. I'm sorry. I'm
an expert on the Mormon religion,Christopher, and I've been wearing the uh
no, but when you're at hislevels. He is a priesthood holder.
But yes, that means he hasto wear magic underwear. And he's even

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said he wears it, so Iwant he just trusted that magic underwear will
make him invincible. Christopher, Ohgod, I'm serious. Well, actually
I find this very humorous, youknow, and you certainly didn't say that.
I can tell you jokes about myown I'm going to ordain say the
bast minutes. I got some greatjokes for the Baptist too, I know,
but I will say this. It'snice, untruth. It's not like
there were a lot of Republicans talkingabout magic underwear in twenty twelve. There

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are a lot of Democrats at thatpoint, which shows something about the country.
Right. But I got to tellyou, you and I disagree on
this, but I would be proudto vote for Mitt Romney again. I
mean I was proud to vote forhim in twenty twelve. I think he's
been a great senator. I haveno problem with this. The question becomes
more fundamental. Is there enough onboth sides of the aisle to be able

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to draw I will tell you thatthere's an argument that I can't believe.
It's amazing how much our politics shiftedthat Mitt Romney is now considered a moderate.
I mean, think about this,This is the Biden Biden Obama has
been a moderate. I think allthe way along he did a Romney Care,
which is Obama copy that He's donea lot of things that are to

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the left. So I don't seethis man as a really strong conservative candidate
at all, accounstitution conservative at all. But he ran to the right.
If you remember, he was ontaxes, on spending, he ran to
the right of John McCain. Hewas considered the conservative candidate. I don't
know. I'm curious. He's gotto make the case if he runs.
I'm going to make a supposition.I'm hoping it would be a Romney managing

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because I think that's a stronger ticket. It's very difficult to tell people somebody
can't run for president when you alreadywhen believe or not, Ladies and gentlemen,
this is a statement of fact.It's not this, so everybody don't
go crazy. More people voted forMitt Romney than voted for Donald Trump either
time, but more people voted forBarack Obama than voted for Mitt Romney.
It's actually that's that's a statistical fact. It's the number of people. But

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it's still he still didn't win.I mean, that's his point. He
still didn't become president. There wasa higher African American turnout for Obama,
which is for the most part,collapsed with jo Biden. That's one of
these many gone to Trump. Now, well, he's gathering huge support.
There is all the various minority groups. Trump is well because they remember how
good it was when he was apprisedof Well there there's there's some true much

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he helped them. There is sometruth so much, but I would say
there's certainly truth. Is an interestingstatistic, for example, twenty one percent
of African American men have said inpolling they have an intention of voting for
Trump, which is historically high.Yeah, you know what the polling data
is for African American women, nopoint zero one percent. It's in other
words, it's the biggest gender gapI've ever seen. It's almost non existent

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of the evidence in Louisiana is thatJeff Landry, if anything is I mean,
love him or hate him, heis certainly associated with Donald Trump.
He was endorsed by Trump. He'svery much. He was Trump's favorite attorney
general, and he got fifteen percentof the black vote. Yeah, so
did everybody down ticket, which weredisproportionately candidates he supported. Liz Morel was

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his chief, his solicitor general,and as attorney general you go pretty much
everybody but Billy Nunngesser was a supporter. And so we're going to see how
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to Chris bring it up. Didyou know that Canal Street is the safest

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And with Christopher my partner, we'realways working so very hard to bring you
the truth, the whole truth,and nothing but the truth. So help
us God and Christopher, what aboutrhyme? Yeah? Where are we going
with that? Something was rather astonishinghappened at the end of last week,

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and just so you understand the endof this week, something you understand.
I wouldn't have expected this in abouta million years now. People know that
Governor elect Jeff Landry doesn't have avery good relationship as you might imagine with
some of the people in the cityof New Orleans. LaToya cantrell absoletetes its
guts, amongst other things. Sowhen the governor elect got the district attorney

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to agree with what Jason Williams notexactly a conservative, in fact, a
darling of the progressive left. Ifell off my chair and that rarely happens
to me in politics. So justto understand, there's a reason why an
attorney general can't do much about crimeand why Jeff Landry hasn't done it because
unless and a district attorney invites theAttorney General's office to prosecute crimes, the

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attorney general has no power to prosecutecrime. It's not as jurisdiction. And
so what came out was the newattorney General, of course, is Liz
Morrel. And Liz Morrel is wasJeff Landry's deputy. She's one of his
closest supporters. This is the firsttime a governor, in honestly, in
my lifetime has had as close arelationship with an attorney general as Jeff Landry

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is about to have with Liz Morrel. That it just there's there's no there's
never been. Usually attorney generals andgovernors are at odds with each other.
And so we've got a team,folks, well team. What has happened
is Jason Williams, the District Attorneyof Orleans Parish, has come out and
said any arrests made by state police. Very specific State police in New Orleans

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could be prosecuted as primary jurisdiction forcrime by the Attorney General's office. Now
you're like, okay, well that'sgreat, but there's not a lot of
state police. Just wait, ifyou if you remember, if you will,
Harbord patrol place could play a rolein this, because that would count
s state police. But there's athere's a bigger site. If you remember,
there was a period of time priorto the pandemic where the state police

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were the main patrol elements of theFrench Quarter. There is a deal coming
out where the state police will takeover potentially back the French Quarter and a
lot of the concentrated areas both tourismand but also of high crime. They
will come in and and and pushit, which means that the trials that

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it would probably happen still, youknow, in in Criminal Disrecort in Orleans,
but they could happen in the CDC, the JDC in Baton Rouge because
that's where the Attorney General's Office hasit. Either way, there you're going
to potentially see a lot of statepolice in New Orleans neighborhoods they have the
right to patrol. But what happenedten years ago was that the State Police

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was made the main primary patrol inthe French Quarter and local merchants paid about
I think it was a half apenny of sales taxes to support this to
the state. This is a processthat's been going on in Orleans in a
minor way for years. If youhave something called the neighborhood patrols. There's
seventeen neighborhoods in Orleans and Jefferson.Actually the first one was not in Orleans,

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it was Old Metory, but thathave the ability to levy a millage
on themselves have a private patrol,and there's a statistical connection between those neighborhoods
and the level of crime. That'swhy you can be in the Garden District
and there is very little violent crime. There's been carjackings, but there's been
very little violent crime. You canthe other side of Saint Charles Avenue to

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Central City and it's actually quite high. So one of the questions is could
you just take that as a stepfurther now that the Attorney General's office can
prosecute in the state police, letthe state police have the French Quarter,
possibly parts of the Fauborg Barony partsof the city and do that. Now,
there's a lot of people that areagainst this. Mostly their names are

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LaToya Cantrell and the New Orleans CityCouncil. And the reason for that is
it kind of takes away the homerule charter. Most parishes would be against
the state coming in and taking overtheir criminal justice. That's why Jason Williams's
decision on this surprised me, becausehis argument is perfectly logical, we don't
have enough cops. Since we don'thave enough cops, if they want to

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come in and do it, andthis is the price, let him do
it. But it is a realquestion about control. Some of his most
progressive supporters are going to literally gocrazy because they don't wan like cops.
They want to get rid of thepolice, which is total insanity. But
then liberals don't think with you know, same minds. Unfortunately all of them,
but most of them, but mostof them don't, by Jeff Lantry,
enough of the mole to seriously limitpolice departments enough that many in blue

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areas absolutely and they're paying a dearprice for it. Now, now there's
there's no doubt New Orleans, andthis may not just apply to Orleans.
The other place that Jeff Landry isfocused on a Shreeport Cattle Parish, which,
if you noticed, listen to this, the race for sheriff of cattle
Parish was decided between a Republican anda Democrat by one vote. Oh you

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see, you better vote, folks, one one. I'm not making this
up. One vote out of thousandscast. It was one vote, one
person shows up, the Republican winsinstead the Democrat. That's how important you
vote is. It's just and sowe're going to see whether the place is.
But New Orleans and Shreeport both rankas two of the top crime in
twenty cities for crime in the UnitedStates, and two of them in a

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state of only four and a halfmillion people. I mean, it's just
whatever your politics are, that's justlooks really bad. And it also is
not great for people at wanting toactually come and live in the city.
And so we'll see if so whogets all the incoming wealthy folks Tennessee,
the Carolinas, Florida, Texas.I don't want to come to crime ridden

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states like Louisia. Yeah, forwhat you've done I agree with that,
but also the fact that they don'thave income taxes may play a little bit
on the states play the state youtalk about, which is a question that
Jeff Landry will be put before him, and he's actually said nothing about taxes.
One of the reasons why you didn'tsee a lot of centrist Democrats get

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crazy about Jeff Landry was because onfiscal policy he's not all that conservative.
He's not particularly liberal. He's justhe's He hasn't said anything about taxes and
spending all that much. He's notall that. You know that, that's
not his thing. Crime, socialissues, trans issues, those are his
things, not this. But onething that is his thing, because it's

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the Republican Party will make it whetherhe wants to or not. Is redistricting.
Now, somebody else has not beenfollowing the news. US District Judge
Shelley Dick, who was the onewho insisted on creating of the second minority
congressional district, has been hearing acase all of last week about whether the
legislature should have more black majority seats. She was an Obama pointe, and

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the argument in the lawsuit that wasbrought by the LOUISIANAAACP, several other organizations
and several Black Louisianians. Is thatthe white population of Louisiana is fifty eight
percent, the African American population isabout a third. Seventy of the seats
sixty eight percent of the seats basicallyare keyed to be elected a Republican So

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the remaining twelve percent of Asians andHispanics basically right. And that's one thing
people aren't paying attention to is therising Hispanic population in Louisiana, which is
approaching. It's all around the country, but Louisiana kind of was behind the
scenes prior to Katrina. We reallydidn't have a very big Hispanic population of
immigrants. We always had a Hondurancommunity, We always had some Cubans,

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but we weren't we weren't a amajor we are now this this is the
English is a second language is somethingthey said, like forty percent of the
kids in Jefferson Parish right now,I mean it's in public school, in
public school. So this is amajor issue. But so this case is
going in to expand the number ofblack districts and what this has led to.
My newspaper Louisiana Weekly actually editorialized onthis. If anybody wants to go

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to Louisiana Weekly dot com and readabout it. Calls for Governor John Bell
Edwards to call a special session inDecember Christmas to draw the second congressional district
and to draw, potentially if ShelleyDick redraw the legislature before Jeff Landry gets
into office. Now we're running outof time, and there's a there's a

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reasonable challenge, which is the legislatureis under construction right now, it's under
you know, the actual physical buildings. No, the buildings are under like
restoration right now. That's there.Using the break too is But the idea
is that once Jeff Landry gets intooffice, this won't be this the ability
to do this will be limited.Because Jeff Landry has said he's fighting this

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all the way to the Supreme Court, he won't have much success when it
comes to congression districts. The SupremeCourt is already ruled in the Alabama case.
It is and it's almost exactly thesame situation as we have here in
Louisiana, almost per se. Butthe question is, can you force under
the Voting Rights Act a redrawing inthe legislature, and Republicans have super majorities

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in both chambers coming into office.He doesn't want to lose that. So
there is a huge call for thelast few weeks of essentially the Louisiana of
Christmas, for the legislators that goback to Baton Rouge. Now, I
never miss an opportunity to send apolitician to work because they don't do a
whole lot of it, So Idon't have a problem with that. But
I'm curious to see if John BellEdwards is going to do this. I

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disagree with our friend Brian Trasher.I think John Bell Edwards is going to
run for governor again, and it'sin his interest to do this for the
African amer community. Whether he winsor loses shows the gesture, and so
we'll see whether that comes about.But folks be watching because this is not
going to be a quiet political seasonby any stretch of the imagination. You've

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got the constitution Conservatives of Louisiana.We're the We're going to be we are,
I guess already the super red stateof the entire Union. And that
means the Liberals the Democrats are goingto fight furiously now more than they ever
have, viciously thinking of any inevery dirty trick they can pull, which
means our political oh yes, Ido, Christ, our political scene could

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end up being very, very likeyou said, colorful lots of blood.
That would point out it was aRepublican majority Supreme Court, a conservative Supreme
It wasn't five to four decisions onthe seven is that said? The law
the state of law is the VotingRights Act. The Voting Rights Act says
that districts have to reflect the racialcomposition of states, and that's not that

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And this is the difference between alisten and textualists and the conservative side.
They're not the same thing. Anda textualist says, well, if the
law says that, it's one thingto make up law, it's another thing
to say the law actually says this. You got to follow the law.
And that's the problem that a lotof Republicans have. The Voting Rights Act
is not a multiple choice sort ofthing. It says it very directly,
you have to do this. Congresscan repeal the law, they have every

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right to do it, but rightnow it is the law of the land,
right, So I mean, there'sno' that's the subtext of this entire
conversation, So I don't know aswe play it off, I do want
to talk about something a little bitof higher brow, because, of course,
this past Thursday was the one hundredand forty ninth birthday of the great
Man with wriston Churchill. And forthose that don't know, and you know

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only occasionally listen to this program,I'm the vice president of Churchill Society of
New Orleans. Grand all of us, folks, if you are a serious,
hardcore constitution conservative, you need youneed to join one of our great
champions, and I'm talking about WinstonChurchill. We have the number one rated
Churchill Chapter in the entire world,and I've got to thank Christopher for much

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of that. He and a fewothers work very hard to bring us to
this. We're a new and we'reyoung, one of the youngest chapters in
the whole world, and yet we'realready way at the top. And people
come come to our events from allaround the world because they say we have
the best things, we have thebest speakers, we have the best you
know one thing that key the bestparties. They say New Orleans knows how
to thorough party, and we do. We do six events a year,

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a wine Wit and Wisdom in thespring, we do a Oil and Corey
speaker. We do a whole bunchof events. We do wine events.
We do this and our main ChurchillDinner, which happens typically at the New
Orleans Country Club each each year onthe birthday. So November thirtieth we had
it. And I give more creditto the organization of people who found it
than I who've been with it sincethe very beginning, like Kill Riddle,

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Ted Martin, urs Right Collins,and most importantly herschel Abbit and the reason
for Chill himself. The reason whyI bring the late great Herschelabbot is we
talk about Churchill. Yeah, heloves he re enact. He did reenact
Churchill perfect. Herschel Abbot was agreat leader. He was he was he
was Rex. He was one ofthe great civic leaders. He's the great
in this. He's the man singularlyresponsible after Steven Ambrose and Nick Miller for

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us having a national leader of charityin New Orleans incredibly measured. If you
if you drive down Magazine he was. But if you drive down Magazine Street,
you'll see that the Saint Thomas HealthcareClinic. One of the buildings is
called the herschel Abbot because he raisedthe money to create that health clinic.
And what about the World War twomusic, Well, I just said that,
Yes, I want to say itagain. But the point about herschel

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Abbot is he was he was aChurchill fanatic. One of his last trips
was to see Churchill's talk about thisis a holiday trip to go to Flanders
and find the trench that Churchill foughtin in the First World War, I
believe, believe. But his hisexample of how to how Churchill's life still
influences us. By the way,Churchill was a great He was a great

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conservative, but he was also agreat centrist. He was the found under
of the progressive income tax in England, amongst other things. But what is
primarily conservative folks. He leaned tothe left only so he could stay in
office. That he was to playthe card. He joined the Liberal Party,
and the liberals back then we're likeconservatives today. He joined the Liberal
Party and he thought the New Dealwas what saved American conservative American capitalism.

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So but my point being in alland saying this about Winston Churchill was We
created the herschel Abbot Award for thosewho teach the example of Winston Churchill as
leaders, writer, statesman, andconstitutionalist, and we awarded it to a
man by the name of Brett Scheffeldt, who had kept the church, created
the Churchill habit Copiah Lincoln Community Collegeand for years brought dozens of college kids

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down to the Churchill Symposiums at theWorld War Two Museum, and is now
doing at the University of Southern Mississippias a professor the very same thing.
And we were honored to give thefirst herschel Abbot Award to Brett schuffeld and
we're going to continue to do that. We also run an essay contest,
and this is what I wanted tosay for everybody listening. Our essay contest,
ladies and gentlemen, is for highschool students. It is First prize

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is fifteen hundred dollars, Second prizesseven hundred fifty dollars. It's available at
Churchill Societynew Orleans dot com. It'sopened to any high school student in Louisiana,
Mississippi, anywhere in our listening area, and we encourage you to if
you know, somebody get in.It's both a wonderful prize and it's a
great way of getting these kids somethingfor the college application spim and bring out

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their creative talents. And these essayswe've gotten have been fantastic. They're unbelievable.
They're really reading great, a greatthing. They get a chance,
they get a chance to read itin one of our meetings, and it's
really been a wonderful Thank Christopher tellus real quickly because we've got to put
a rap on this. But whatabout the speakers we get. We get
some of the top speakers in theworld. So one year from this week
we're going to be making the nationalpremiere of Churchill in the Cold War,

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Anthony Tucker Jones's new book for McMillan, and it actually is going to be
here in New Orleans internationally. That'sthe kind of level of speakers we get.
And then what about the recent dinnerwe had. The recent dinner we
had one of the heads of theWorld War Two Museum talking about Britain and
the America in the special relationship.It was an incredible, incredible thing,
folks. It is joined the ChurchillSociety at go to Churchill Societynew Orleans dot

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com, Churchill sideyew Orleans dot comfor more information. And on that note,
we're going to go to our patrioticmoment talking a little bit about Winston
Churchill. After these important messages,stay tuned more of the Founder show right
after this, and folks, ifyou liked Winston Churchill at Churchill Books for
sale at the Garden District Bookshop atGardendistrict Bookshop dot com. Ladies and Gentlemen

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comes to twenty seven to twenty seven, parten and see the Garden District Books
Shop along with its new bar andits wonderful bestro at the Chickery House.
There are a lot of evening shoppingopportunities. They're called sip and Shop,
where you'll have free drinks, freemartinis, free wine and be able to
shop in the evenings. At twentyseven to twenty seven, Pretenna even get
pictures with Santa Claus for Churchill.Love your bookstore, He would ask je,

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he'd actually do a beautiful watercolor ofit. I would hope so oh
that would scare me because that watercolorwould be worth millions of dollars today.
Anyway, check out if you wouldon the web Gardendistrict Bookshop dot com or
look on a Facebook for the rinkrink at twenty seven to twenty seven Britannia
for the list of events. Musicalevents going on throughout the entire month,

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free and open to the public,and some great church will books also,
folks, everything you pipe want fromJudy's at the Rink to close at our
new clothing store, to wonderful flowersfor Fan Dawson and wonderful linens at Maison
Ats, and of course every bookyou could possibly want at the Garden District
Bookshop and a wonderful lunch and breakfastmenus at the Chickery House, all at

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the Rink twenty seven to twenty sevenPritanna, Well, folks are back in
this Chaplin high McHenry and there's nota time for us to go into our
chaplain Bob bab patriotic moment. Wejust take a brief moment to remind you
of the biblical foundations of our country, udo Christian jurisprudence. In the day
of all days. We're going topick Winston Churchill as our influencer for American

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history, our great influencer, greatinfluencer over the whole world. In fact,
Churchill was the most remarkable and amazingmen. And it is his one
hundred and forty ninth birthday, Andfolks, by the way, that was
my partner, Christopher, and thankyou Christopher, because by the way,
Christopher is one of the world classChurchill experts. But anyway, the thirtieth

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is his birthday, November the thirtieth. Of course, it was a few
days ago, and so I figuredi'd quote him. You know that Churchill
believed that Christian civilization was vital,and through his own self study in India,
he had made himself a student ofmany of the world's religions. He
confessed to believing in it creator,and his references to and quotes from the
Bible confirmed the creator he was referringto was the Christian Creator. Further evidence

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is found in Churchill's very own words. In nineteen forty one, on a
matter of ethics, he said,we can find nothing better than Christian ethics
on which to build, and thatmore closely we follow the Sermon on the
Mount, the more likely we areto succeed in our endeavors. He went
on to say that Christianity should bethe foundation of all that's good in civilization,

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folks, with influence like that inour country and in the world,
but especially for America, because thisis about America. Can you see how
God is so important to have inour government. I don't mean institutionally,
of course not. Our funding fathersdid not want that, thanks to the
Baptists. They had a heavy influenceon that. Because there are several institutions.

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One of them is government, oneof them is the church, families
and other institution. These institutions areto be kept separate. However, they
are fully integrated, and so whatour funding fathers wanted was a philosophical inclusion
of the church in government, notan institutional, but a philosophical and Churchill
certainly understood that, so did ourfounding fathers. So, folks, what

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about your foundering? Where are you? You know, you could be the
greatest patriot in the world that everlived, and yet if you died and
went to hell, what good wouldit do you? So right now,
I'll just take a brief moment toshow you how you can know that.
You know that, you know you'resaved from a burning hell and guaranteed heaven.
So, folks, did you knowthat God loves you with an everlasting
love. The Bible says that verything in Jeremiah. Because God loves you

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so much, he knew that youhad a big problem because love requires intimacy,
and he's just that intimate with us. He knows everybody, every little,
any tiny thing you'd ever done,ever will do. He's that intimate
with you, and he wants tobe you to be that intimate with him,
and you can be. It's prettysimple. See in fact, Jesus
even said all it takes is thefaith a little child, and said,

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in fact, he said, ifunless you come as a little child,
you shall know whise enter in.So put on you your childhood thinking cap
and get simple, folks, andget real and get to understand grace.
Grace means free gift, free gift. God provided a free gift. I
have to say free because so manytimes gifts get confused. It's really free,

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folks. You can't pay for it, you don't deserve it, you
can't earn it. So forget aboutall that and just take it as a
free gift. Kids have no problemwith that. When you give them,
put food in front of them,take them to school. They don't reach
in their pocket to pay your taxifare or the price of the meal.
No, they know it's free andit's okay. They can handle that.
You can too. So this iswhat you gotta believe. Because God knew
we would never be able to fixourselves, never pay for our sins,

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never fix our death problem. Hecame up with a magnificent plan. He
decided to become a man and doit for us. And he did when
that man, the Lord Jesus Christ, perfect God and perfect man, all
the way God and all the wayMan, God, the Son, when
he came to this earth to payfor all of our sins on the cross.
For the Bible says it's blood washedthem all the way. And I

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mean all of your sins, folks, from the day you're born and the
day you die, your tiniest tothe greatest sins were all washed away with
the precious blood of the Lord JesusChrist. Now that problem solved. Next
part death, How do you fixthat? Well, plain and simply,
He rose from the dead to winfor you his precious free gift of resurrection,
ever lasting life, so you wouldnever see the second death. You
see, if you get the secondbirth, you'll never see the second death.

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The second birth is when you,with all your heart believe that Jesus
died for all your sins and roseand the dead. I say, with
all your heart, because you're nottrusting in anything else, because you have
repented. Repentance means you've quit trustingyourself. You've realized you're a complete loser,
hopeless and help us without God destinedto a burning hell. And so
what God did was he made itso you don't have to try to fix

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yourself. He did it for you. Believe you can't save yourself. That's
repentance. Nine, you're free toput faith alone, in Christ alone.
You're free to believe that He diedfor all of your sins, was buried
and rose from the dead to winfor you that precious free gift of resurrection,
everlasting life. If you've never believedthat before, do it now.
Don't wait till it's too late,folks, do it now. Believe that

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Jesus really did die for all yoursins, was buried and rosam dead with
the faith of a little child.After you believed, you can't save yourself.
And of course that's repentance. Whocan't do that? You can do
that. Remember, you got tohave that childhood thinking cap on when you
do it, all right, folks. Well, one last thing before we
close, folks. You know timesare getting tough, times are getting rough.

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Jesus said it would get like thatin the end before, right before
he comes back. And he's comingback soon, folks. So it's not
time for us to go in ourchaplain by by watchmen on the wall.
We're again. We just take abrief moment to show you the facts,
the evidence behind our case. Ourcase is that Jesus is coming back soon.

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Hallelujah. What I can't do themall right now, they're over two
hundred. But every show I'd addanother one, and we can add it
all together, and we'll have theall one day, folks. And by
the way, jesusaid, when yousee all these things happen at the same
time, that's when I'm at thedoor. See, all these things have
happened here there, off and onwhatever, throughout the centuries, but they've
never coalesced. They've never had onegiant coincidence of them all coming together at

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once. Here's one of the signs. The four horsemen of the apocalypse,
folks, they're galloping. They're running. When a horse runs, that's full
pace all around the world. It'salready started, folks. The four horsemen
here, what are the four horsemen? Criminal conspiracy on an international level,
it's here. Remember the plandemic anda lot more than that, folks.

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What they're doing without money? Everythingall right? Next step, next horse,
the red horse, the horse ofwar, and that horse is now
here, folks. First horse wasa white horse. Next white like you
know, righteousness and holiness. It'sall fake. That's why it's a conspiracy.
The second one, it's the horseof war, wars and rumors of

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wars, and folks were seeing them. Third horse is the horse of famine,
famine, folks, and the firsttime we're seeing family send food shortages
all over and famine is actually breakingout of various parts around the world right
now. But it's gonna get worse, folks. And the final one is
death, death, the pale horseand the one who rode on that was

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hell and death, folks. It'sall happening all around the world right now.
It's getting bad, folks, it'sgetting really bad. So I caution
you be ready, get your bunkerready. You need a cave Jesus said,
run to the caves when it getsthis bad. Not I don't mean
right now, but as it's goingto get soon, I believe, get
your cave, get your bunker ready, and I'm selling. I'm selling bunkers,

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folks, from the Heavenly Manufacturing Company. And the name of the bunker
is the Lord Jesus Christ. Andyou know how much it costs. It's
free, fre free, free toyou the moment you believe that Jesus died
for all your sins with buried androastm bed and you can't get a better
safe house. You can't get abetter bunker, our cave. Believe right
now, and you'll know that you'llbe with Jesus forever, no matter how
bad it gets on this earth.So, folks, it's not time for

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us to close just because of themond Saint Martin singing a creole goodbye and
God bless all out there. Doesthis have to be the end of the
nerd? You know I love you. In the pamon land, I can

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see across a million stars. WhenI look at we can bosey it's the
sun time. I suppose you couldn'tcall it a cray if we take just

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a little little longer to see ourgood night be calling cel good