August 5, 2025 • 45 mins
Today Jeff & Steph talked out how the bible prophecy helps explain thee times we are live through. They also talked about Cardinal Simoni, spirtual warfare, humility and pride. Steph talked about a confessional miracle. They talked about the negative effects of feminism and the possitive actions being done by christians in todays times.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, hello everyone, and welcome to these times with Jeff
and Steph. Now we are here to preach to you.
We're here to talk with you about biblical prophecy, biblical teachings,
and just talk about these times that we're all living in.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now. I am Jeff.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm kind of more into that history part, but she
is Steph, and she is going to be our spiritual
warfare and mystics expert.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Steph. How are things going out there in Nashville?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It was great, had a good day. We are enjoying
a break from all the horrible heat this heat way
we've been under. It's kind of been in the eighties
and we've had a cool breeze the last couple of days.
So got to get out and walk my dog more.
And it's nice. It's been a nice day. How is it?
And I want to ask you? Is it Colorado or Colorado?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Colorado?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay, See that's what we don't say that in the South.
We say Colorado, So it's called to the locals Colorado.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Right. Well, there's been so many people moving in here
that you don't know. There aren't that many of us
locals left anymore?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, Ye? That way too, So you had a hot
day there.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Oh yeah, it was like one hundred and two.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Except for us, it's not not We get spoiled though,
because like if I go to Tennessee and it's eighty,
it'd be here one hundred and two. We have like
eight percent humidity. So then we go down south and
you guys got like seventy and eighty percent. It's like
it seems like twice as hot.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, and you can't breathe and you walk outside and
your covered and sweat immediately. Yeah, it's lovely down here.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We have to deal with the dry heat, I know, right,
but this outernon's kind of sucky. There's some wildfires blowing
out in eastern or western Colorado, Nevada and Arizona and
Sivi where the wind turns and eating and all the blows,
all that smoking, so can't even see the mountains, just
kind of a big haze.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Wow. Well, which brings us to the title we picked
for our show, These times. We are living in some
interest times, and I feel like we both feel called
to get on here and talk about it. You know,
a lot of people think we're living in the end times.
I think you have to have your head in the
sand to not know that these are definitely whatever your
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beliefs are, these are definitely procures peculiar times. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And the one thing that always sticks out to me,
I think it was an Isaac where Isaac always said
in the end times, right will be called wrong and
wrong will be called right. And it seems like that
is today for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes, absolutely, which actually leads us in nicely to our
first topic, which I had. You know, I was talking
to a very devout holy woman Catholic friend today, lady
I'm close to. She's older, she's in her seventies, and
she's spends hours, you know, which goes to the daily Mass,
spends hours in adoration a day, and just a lot
of people don't know some of the really cool things
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and miraculous things and good things. There's so much, you know,
bad and evil stuff going on in the world. We
all hear about that, and I think it's really important
to kind of highlight some of the awesome things God's
doing to uplift people. And the Cardinal Simone Simoni, right,
I think you say Simony, so he and it's a
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miraculous story even how he got here. Because I was
telling she was like now how did he get now?
Who brought him over here? So there's a lady named
Karen and I don't know her last name, that she
is a is a Catholic in New Jersey. And she
had a dream and Jesus came to her in a
dream and said, I want you to bring Cardinals Simony
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over here to New Jersey and put on a conference
and have him do a worldwide exorcism. And she had
never even heard of him. So she wakes up and
looks him up. Now she has quite the conversion story.
She was kind of a falling away Catholic and the
Blessed Mother came to her a few years ago and
pulled demons out of her. Literally she saw and she
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has this testimony online how her own mortals seem and
had contributed to her severe depression and anxiety, and she
had struggled for years with it. And the Blessed Mother
came one night and said, why do you persecute me?
Kind of like what Jesus said to Paul on the
road to Damask, Why are you persecuting me? To her
demons and she realized it was She says, she was
shown the demons how they were persecuting the Blessed Mother
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through her, because Mary loves all her children, right, so
if they're hurting us, then they're hurting her and they're
hurting Jesus. So anyway, she had this massive conversion experience,
got back into Mass, saying the Rosary every day, and
ends up having a dream a few years later, and
Jesus says, I want you to bring Cardinal Simoni over
here to America and have him do a worldwide exorcism.
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So she she said, it all came together so easily,
like put a team together, fown people at her church.
The bishop got on board. The Bishop contacted Rome, contacted
the Pope, so with the blessing of Pope Francis. Actually
this started before Pope Francis died. With the blessing of
Pope insists in Poclio, and Cardinal Simoni was a completely
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gung ho from the moment they contacted him, Sure I'll come,
even though he's what ninety six ninety six, Yeah, and
so he said, yeah, I'll come. So you know, from
the moment they started putting this together, there was a
lot of spiritual warfare. Everybody on the on the staff
and on the team was attacked, Some people had wrecks,
some people ended up in the hospital. The cardinal himself
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was pushed down by gypsy who he recognized as the
devil in the streets of Rome. Pushed down and hospitalized,
had several bones broken. They didn't even know if he
was going to live, and within one day he was
healed completely fine, no broken bones, one day out of
the hospital and on a plane to America. So if
that's not miraculous enough by itself, so he gets to
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New Jersey, they do this weekend conference. I watched all
of it, was it was incredible. At the end, he
does this prayer basically a worldwide excess and only a
cardinal has so for the people who are legalistic, only
a cardinal has authority and rights to do a worldwide exorcism.
And I think he's the only cardinal who has ever
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been an exorcist, if I'm not mistaken, I think so.
And you were saying he researched, he skipped. Usually you
have to go from priest to bishop to cardinal, and
he was given a papal dispensation by Pope Francis and
made straight from priest to cardinal.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, Prope Francis. When he heard about out him, he
called them the living Martyr of Albania. Back when he
was he didn't he's like we said, he's ninety six
years old. But back in nineteen sixty three he had
just performed a Christmas Mass, and when he was done
with the midnight Mass, he got arrested by the Communists
over there in Albania. So they ended up in jail,
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in prison, all that, and he first he was sentenced
to death in front of a firing squad, because you know,
Albania Communism don't like Catholics or any kind of Christian
So then after that they know through the case of God,
he got sent to hard labor, so he had to
spend eighteen years and copper minds and people were dying
around him, but he would still hold masks for those
people he could trust. It wouldn't turn him in, but
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he would say it in Latin, and he had some
of his friends wh would sneak in a little bit
of wine and a little bit of bread so he
could actually do the Mass. And then he finally got out.
They let him go and he said all right. In
nineteen eighty one, they said, okay, you can go, but
you have to go get married and leave the priesthood
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And he wouldn't leave.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
He said, no, he said, I'm married to the most
beautiful bride in the world with his God, and I'm
not going to do it. So he hood out and
basically this really small town in Albania, he still did
masks and did confessions and that kind of thing, and
he's also became an exorcist out there, and that's where
he started his exorcist.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Calling, right and he said, and during the conference they
had interviewed him, and he said he saw he has
always had the gift of seeing angels and demons, and
even as a little boy, he was not an official exorcist,
but as a little boy, he just had the gift.
He said, he would just go up to people and
cast out demons. You know, that's what the early apostles did,
you know. And I don't know a lot of people
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who can do that even that. I mean, I know
the exorcist pretty well here in our diocese, Father Rehill.
He's pretty popular. He's got a show on YouTube as
well called bat Already. But you know, I don't know
any exorcists that they can just go up and cast
out demons, but that he's always had that gift, he said,
since he was a little boy. And and ma'am what
just yeah, he said, just like working in the copper minds,
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people would did just from the cold alone, and the
water would be contaminated and like rusty with copper, there
was no clean water. The conditions were horrible. But just
to have that devotion to Christ that was unwavering.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
It's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How basically you know, he lived in pretty much obscurity.
But then Pope Francis heard about him and wanted to
meet him and see what was going on with him.
Found out about it, and he was eighty eight years old,
which is if you're if you don't know, like you
saw the movie, the horrible movie Conqua or whatever, all
the cao or all the cardinals cannot vote, and once
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you had eighty you can go to the conclave, but
you can't vote. Well, he was already eighty eight, so
he couldn't even vote. He had never been bishop or
anything like that, and quote Francis said, hey, boom, you're
a cardinal.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah. Pope Francis gets a lot of flak for from
the Royal Conservatives, Catholics. But you know, and this situation,
I'm like, wow, go go, Pope Francis. He really did.
He saw something special in someone. He said, this is rare.
He's a living martyr, he's a living saint. Really, and
you know, yeah, I'm totally I'm like you.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'm more of the conservative side. So I was kind
of surprising him. Yeah, like you said, Francis, that was
a good call.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Pope Francis. Well, here's a here's a quote I saw
from one of the interviews i'd read with Cardinal Simoni,
and I thought, wow, this is just this is what
hit me, Like, this is what's missing from our world.
And you know, Pope John Paul talked a lot about
even he even had the whole thing about Theology of
the Body that he wrote because he saw what was coming.
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He saw this war on gender and on our sexuality
and on marriage and the family, huge war. I mean,
this is the end times, this is you know, Mary
at Fadama said the final war, but will be between
God and Satan over marriage and the family. And we're
I think we're there. And the Cardinal Simoni, obviously he
refused to get married because he's married to Christ and
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the to the body and to the Church. And he
said from communism. From communism emerged consumerism and materialism, which
Saint John Paul the Second condemned. Consumerism is about filling
our stomachs, in our pockets and fulfilling all of our
bodily pleasures. Morality has been thrown out and Christ has
been forgotten. God has been substituted with pleasure. That struck me.
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God has been substituted with pleasure. And that's where we're
at today.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Really is watch mainstream. You know, the everything in basic
comes out of Hollywood. That's pretty much all they want,
right right.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You know, we we we've abandoned the Rosary and mass.
You know, a lot of people haven't. I don't want
it to be doing gloom because you know, I see
a lot of really awesome Christians and Catholics that have
not abandoned prayer or the Rosary. And we have some
awesome priests here in Nashville. There's there's a whole I
think there's a whole wave of awesome holy priests that
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have been kind of coming into the ranks for the
last about the last ten or fifteen years. I don't
know if you've noticed that, but they're they're really they're
really on fire.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know, it's kind of surprising me. Is I'm Generation X.
I think you are too, right? Are you a baby?
But are you a millennial?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
No? I think I'm Generation X. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But then the millennials, they are the lowest in the
American history. When they do the surveys of church goers,
they're totally Lewis. So you think that this generation Z
that's coming up, you know, well, they're not going to
know anything, you know, if their parents didn't go well,
they're for the young, you know, what are they up to?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Twenty five?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Now? They are the one of the biggest fastest growingories
of any group in the United States right now.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Right And I heard that Catholicism is actually booming, It's
actually growing really really fast. And well, I've worked for
the church for a little while doing weddings and events
and like media and like the Bishop's Church, the big
church here in Nashville, the beautiful cathedral, and that just
you know, an explanation for that. There there was a
very holy young priest. He was from Vietnam. He would
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live he saw a lot of poverty and he really
loves Fulton Sheen. He like he was too young to
be around to watch the shows. I mean, he's only
like thirty years old, but he he and I would
talk and we talked about why this is the cycle
of like people being lost and then weak weak Christians
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and then how and he said, he said, Fulton she
said this once. He said, it's because when you go
through you know, like our parents, like the people who
lived through the depression in communism, like Cardinal Simoni, that
extreme persecution Commune. He said, when you go through these
horrible hard times, which I believe God's about to send
this world back through in order to make us strong.
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But he said, when you go through these hard times,
it makes you strong, and it makes your faith strong,
and it makes you strong as a person. He said,
then these strong people have kids, and they don't want
their kids to suffer, so they make them weak because
they do everything for them. He's like, then that weak
generation is so lost and so weak that they create
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a lost generation. And then times get really bad because
this generation is so lost, and when times get bad,
then it makes people strong again. And he goes, and
it's just this cycle that keeps going on.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And on, and it's funny because you can actually see it.
I mean, and just in our lifetime. You know, you
remember growing up, Okay, we were like the last generation
that got spanked. You know, it's kind of like on
the outs, it's kind of like, but we weren't like, oh,
like the parents would take the switch to or anything.
You know, we were the last one. So it's like, okay,
you can't do it. Well, now it's out a lot.
So then like the next generation, the Millennials, none of
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them got spanked or anything like that. They're the ones
who had to feel good about. They didn't want to
keep score when they were playing Little League baseball. You know,
they didn't want anybody's finger feelings hurt. Everybody gets a
participation ribbon and all that kind of stuff. You know,
everything is so good, and then they turned into kind
of a really bad generation. So now luckily there's other ones,
like you said, their rebound and they're saying, well, we
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don't want to be whimps like you guys.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You know, we want to see it. We want to
say there's.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Week and they have a service animal that really isn't
a service animal that they take everywhere for emotional support
because they can't handle anything emotionally exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, well, like they take it to Alva, to the
grocery store for emotional support, and the choua was more
scared than you would ever be.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
That's true, that's true. So so I think we're about
to go through some hard times in this world and
Anna shaking. Mary's been talking about this in Madjigoria. Some
of the proved mystics, you know, there's so many, there's
so many out there. You have to be careful who
you listen to. But some of the proved mystics have
been talking about a shaking coming for the world. I
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had a dream. My dreams are really prophetic, I had.
I had a dream I dreamed about nine to eleven
before it happened, about ten years before it happened. I
dreamed about COVID before it happened. And then a few
years ago I had this dream that I feel like
it's coming into these times now. I had. I was
sitting in a call. It was like the coliseum. It
was stone, and it was like, you know, the seats
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were up up up up, and I was at the
very top and it was just like all these patriarchs
of it seems like probably Elijah and Moses, Moses and Abraham,
like everybody was there, like all the sayings and everybody
was there. And I was sitting next to this very
old man with a very long gray beard. And that's
how I know. I've never even heard of this saint before,
but in my dream, I just he looked at me
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so intensely, and he said the world needs humbling, the
world needs humbling. And I said yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah,
we do. And I was like, now who are you?
I was like, who are you? And he said, I'm Athinacious,
I am Athenacious, and I'm like wow. So I woke up.
I told my priest friend about it. He's like, look
up Saint Athanasious. He goes, he was literally the saint
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in the early I don't know if I should have
looked him up, but I didn't think I was gonna
be talking about this. That's why I said, we're just
the Holy Spirit flow and some things, because this wasn't
something I planned to talk about. But a Saint Athanasius
was I know, either the second or third century, very
early on, and they called him the saint that was
against you. Know everybody was against him because it was
literally almost like him bodying the whole world for Christianity,
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Like everything was against him and he stood, He stood
strong and convicted, just like Cardinal Simoni did. So I
think like you see that over and over again throughout history,
there comes times when the Church goes through severe persecution.
Everything's against every you know, everything's against you, and you
really have to stand strong.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, like the humbling part. I think so because I
think I've kind of heard a movement too, a lot
of well Catholic brace and I'm pretty much you know,
evangelicals and all of them. I've kind of realized they've
gotten med one thing that one thing that nobody really
talks about is pride. You know, God does not like pride.
Thing he does not like. But if you look at
our culture, all you're supposed to do is be pride.
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I mean it's totally different.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Ris. You know, just do it.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I am beautiful, I am great. You know, no one
can keep me down and all this kind of stuff.
And so if you don't have a spiritual background, or
you don't read the Bible, you don't understand the difference
between being proud of what you can do and what
you accomplished because you accomplish it through God, and you
actually turn it over where you think that you're the
one that's creating and all that, and so you don't
really understand what pride really should be, you know, you
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should take it right. Instead of taking pride in God
helping you achieve these, you're taking pride in yourself for
achieving it. And it's really kind of some people up.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's really mess some people up. And I think pride
is the really the it's the backbone of all sin.
I think every sin is built on the back of pride.
You know. It was Satan's first sin. He was so
in love with the thought he was so great and
so he was the most beautiful angel. He had all
these gifts, so he was he was so he was
thrown out by pride. And I feel like that's that happens.
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You look at Hollywood people who are just given everything.
When you start thinking you don't need God, you know,
because because we really we're just dust, we can't do
anything without God.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well just look at canaan Abel. That was all pride,
you know, right, God liked one and God didn't like
the other. So the other got men.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, everything's everything's pride, and you look at how Satan
has a hold on especially not to knock men. I
feel like God's doing a work in men. There is
a movement with men, because the devil has destroyed men
and marriages through these phones and through pornography. I mean,
pornography is like this trillion dollar industry, and you know,
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even even the women have fallen into it, what my
priest will say, and it's just I can't even believe
the confessions I hear that it's women too. And but
I feel like there's a movement going on. You know.
He told me a long time ago, pride and lust
to mortal sins, and they're the flip side of the opposite.
They're the same porter, but they're the flip side, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So well, if you look at the whole feminist musement,
that's all pride. They didn't like the fact that men
were thought of as more superior, more head of the household,
and all that kind of stuff. So they had to
bring men down to try and build themselves up, you know,
instead of like trying to work with them. You know,
it was kind of like, well, we hate men now,
that's basically what the whole feminist movement was about, right,
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And so guys, you know, let's be honest, you couldn't
be even today, most guys. You can't really be proud
of being a man. You know, you can be proud
of being a woman, but you can't go yeah, amen,
what you know.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I mean, it just doesn't work right.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And there's well, that's there's so much spiritual warfare involved
in that though, because in order to get women to
that point, I think women were made and men were
made to love women and to want to protect them
and to provide for them. That's how God, you know,
created man to be. And women were made to want
a man to protect, to want a hero, to want
her prince charming, to want somebody to protect and provide
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for her and to make her feel special. And I
think I think the way Satan flipped it is by
first of all, you know, men and men, if you
look at from a spiritual warfare perspective, men are responsible
for the not only the physical protection, but the spiritual
protection of the family. And that's what a lot of
men don't realize, like to lead the family in prayer,
to make sure that he's praying prayers to protection over
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his wife, over his children, and even dating, you know,
to pray for the person you were going to meet,
to pray for the person God has for you to
marry your cat, and so like what you know I
taught my priest friend never thought of it this way.
He's real big on like, you know, this society so
down on men, and I'm like, yeah, but do you
realize what Satan did. He made men untrustworthy. He made
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men be tatters and liars and these horrible people who
just are out to screw women and break their hearts
and do them wrong. And so what women have gotten
in their minds is, well, we can't trust a man
to protect us. Even if we get married, they're going
to leave us by the by the time where you know,
in our forties or fifties, they're going to leave you
for a younger women. And then you're gonna be stuck
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when you can't find a job and you're raising kids
on your own and you can't trust men. So we've
got to Then Satan comes along with the feminist movement.
You don't need a man, you're strong, you can do it.
You see how it all kind of works together that
first he had to take down men and get men
to stop being honorable and chivalrous and get women to
not trust men, you know, logically, so because what you know,
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things were happening.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, then you follow and it's.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Not made anybody happier. It hasn't made women happier. Now
women are on xanax and prozac and antidepressants, and they're
a mess and men are lunely. And it's just that
our culture is a mess.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well you take about it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Not only that, A huge thing I think was taking
the man out of the house. I mean there are
so many you know, and that that's the breakdown of
the family, just by reminding the men in so much,
and it was so easy to do, and I think
that's kind of the big one. You know, once they
once they were able to get men out of the
house more, you know that of course, it affects the
kids and the mom It affects everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Right, right, and it goes back to pride and lust
and like that's how you get a man out of
the house. I mean, you start having him feel like
he does you know, he doesn't honor and respect and
love and cherish his wife and somebody else might be better,
younger or hotter. I'm trapped and I'm just and it's selfishness.
It's like, you know, this whole culture, like Cardinal Simony,
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go back to like what he endured and still refused.
He suffered so greatly, and like our culture, we don't
want to suffer at all, Like we just think it
should all be about our fun, our pleasure. The minute
we're unhappy, oh, I'll just dish my family and go
do what I want. And it's like we've lost the
meaning of marriage, which is love and sacrifice, which is Christianity,
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which is love and sacrifice. It's I don't know, it's
just we've gotten into a bad place the world.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And the only reason you can actually do all that, though, too,
is you have to take just basically a societal shift
away from God too. I mean, right once if you can.
They had to drive a wedge in between the you know,
the whatever church you went to every Sunday, whether you're
hungover or whatever, but you still went. You know this,
but you still heard the word you know for that
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kind of like you know, you stay home and watch
the football game and that's your day off. Man, go ahead,
and low the yard, and you know, and so I
think they had to drive a wedge to get away
from God and then you're able to break it down
a little.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Bit farther, Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, Satan's and the
fallen angels are much smarter than any of us humans,
and they're much trickier, and they know how to play us.
And if you don't have a strong if you don't
have a strong you know, moral compass and teaching and
you're not really relying on the sacraments in the church
and reading the Bible and knowing what God's word says,
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then yeah, you're not really there were no match for
them that can overtake us really easy and get us
confused and give us off track. And yeah, so that
but to go back to the miracle of the church.
And and what's cool when you when you do draw
close to you know, read reading the Bible. Hard times
do make you make you stronger. Because I've gone through
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the last three years have been really really hard for
me personally, but it's drawn me so much closer to
God and just reading the Bible more, spending more time
in adoration. And so last last weekend I went to
confession and the priest there's really holy, awesome priest. He's
got a very very strong devotion to Mary. And for
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my penance. This was so cool. And I had talked
to my friend about it and she goes, I thought
the same thing. So she had the same thought, which
was very affirming for my penance. He told me, he said,
do you know the memor r prayer? And I said yeah.
He said that's what I want you to do for
your penance. And I said okay, and this is you know,
I walked out of there just it hit me immediately.
I'm like, okay, so in the confessional we know that
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it's not really the priest himself, it's Jesus Christ, right,
Like you know, you even gave that example the other day.
Tell your story about the guy that encountered he had
never gone to that priest before, which one and the
and the priest said, you did much better with your
active contrition this time.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh yeah, I can't remember what that one was with you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, so you are saying, like this guy had never
gone to confession with this priest before, and he like
really laid it all out there, and the priest said, okay,
you did much better with your active contrition this time
and so the time before he had forgotten it and
couldn't say it. But he had never been to this
priest before, right, So proof that was, you know, you're
encountering Jesus in the confessional. It's not the priest, it's
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not the person. So anyway, so that so when he
asked me to say the memoir prayer, I thought, so
Jesus himself just asked me to go to marry his
mother in this prayer, this ancient I think from the
third century. Maybe, I don't know. It's a long it's
you know, we've had a long time, and it's calling
upon Mary for miracles. And we all know that anything
you ask, anything she asked of her son, he will
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grant her, and anything anything he asked of her, she
will do. So it just it just occurred to me,
like walking out of the confessional, like he just gave
me an instant miracle because he himself, Christ himself asked
me to pray the memoir prayer. So when I prayed it,
I asked for me. I asked with the miracles that
I'm needing in my life right now, knowing she's going
to go to her son, and she's going to say,
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will you do these miracles for her? He's going to say,
of course, because I'm not going to refuse my mother anything.
And she's going to go directly to him because he
himself asked me to pray that prayer. So it's just
like a loop. It's just like a loop. He creative
of an instant miracle. And I started seeing the fruit
of it immediately, Like that night, I think I had
a sense of peace come over me. I haven't maybe
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haven't ever had.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, and so did my friend. And you know, the
priest gave her the same penance, and she had the
immediate thought herself, oh wow, this is an instant miracle.
And she and I both talked about situations changing in
our life pretty instantly in the sense of peace, and
even our friend that we've been all praying the Saint
Joseph novena together, the three of us doing a thirty
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day novena. Things shifted in her household so dramatically that
her husband, who's been drinking and they've had problems in
their marriage for thirty years, quit drinking. She just said,
I don't know what happened, but over the last seventy
two hours, everything's changed. So there are miracles, you know.
And the cardinal came over here and he did a
world wide exorcism, and then he went to Las Vegas.
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We forgot to mention that, and he said Mass at
the Holy the Guardian Angel Cathedral on the Strip. And
then the mayor of the city of Las Vegas asked him,
this is a miracle itself to come to city hall,
because an exorcist needs the permission of the head of
household right to do an exorcism. So the head of
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household of the city is the mayor, and she gave
him permission, even though she's Jewish. She said, sure, I'd
love for you to exercise and blome the whole city.
So he did. And when they got in the cab,
they were, you know, just telling the cab dribber while
they were here, and she know the translator. He speaks
only Albanian in Latin, and she was translating and she
was saying, well, yeah, this is what we're here. And
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the cab driver said, I'm not even a Christian. I
wouldn't even consider myself a believer, but I had the
most insane sense of peace come over me about thirty
minutes ago, and that was about the time he was
blessing the whole city. So miracles are happening.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And one thing, since you talked about that Jewish mayor,
I don't know why it flipped off to me. One thing,
you know, we got all these miracles going on and
that kind of thing. One thing I can't figure out
at all is the rise in anti Semitism around supposed Christians.
That is really surprising me right now. I mean why,
I don't know. You know, this God hardening somebody's hearts
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and you think you'd be opening him. But it just
doesn't make any sense right now with the anti sentimentism
that's going around.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
See, I hear about it, but I don't see it.
So that's just like a lie in the media because
I see these signs like in Sylvan Park places in Nashville,
these little liberal communities that we stand with our Jewish friends,
But like I have lots of Jewish friends and I
don't see any hatred towards Jews in Nashville. So like,
where is this idea coming from that there's anti semitism?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Okay, the big one obviously you know what's going on
between the Jews, Israel and Hamas right now, right right,
And basically they have to get rid of Hama.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You know they're never gonna yet.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, all of a sudden, Canada, Great Britain and France
have all decided that they went to the United Nations
and they want to do a two state government.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
They want to give them Haamas their own. They want
to give them Palestine now after all this fighting and everything.
So those three countries have all said, you know, let's
just ge Israel get out of there, and we're going
to give the Palestinians back that land.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Oh well, so countries are siding with the Muslims and
not the Jews, right. Interesting, And see, I didn't know that.
And we to hear different things because you and I
are kind of connected to different But what I've been seeing,
how I guess it's probably they're being persecuted for christ
because what I've been seeing happening is a lot of
Jewish conversions to Christianity in Israel because there's a there's
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an organization called One Nation I think that is going
through the streets with a New Testament in Hebrew and
they're and they're actually quoting Isaiah. They're quoting the Old Testament,
which is they don't call it that, you know, they
call it there. I forget what book it is, but
they're quoting Isaiah and they're saying, who do you think
they're talking about Jesus Christ? Or do you think this
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is from your own scripture? And they're like, oh, that
sounds like Jesus And they're like, nope, wrong, this is
Jewish scripture. And they're like, if I gave you a
New Testament Hebrew, would you read it? And they they're
all saying yes. And they're like, there's so many Jews
converting right now to Christianity. You know.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I think actually that the just the regular Jewish and
the regular Christians. I think they're actually becoming even more
tighter than you know, nowadays than they were in the past.
It just seems because like you were talking earlier extremes,
you know, it's kind of like pulling them together. Like
college campuses and I don't know how Belmont and whatever
else is in Nashville, but college campuses are just totally
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anti Semitic. I mean wow, because even they just announced
yesterday UCLA out there in California. Trump just took away
millions of dollars from because they were so anti Semitic.
So that follows Columbia and Harvard and Princeton and all
that money, and so he's actually he's actually fighting. I mean,
when they have all these big anti Israel, you know,
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basically they're not even rallies, they're just basically they look
almost you just instead of the swastika, you put the
Hamas flag up basically, and it looks like that. And
so he's been he's been taking money away from He said, no,
you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well, you know what, from my little simple mystical perspective,
it just comes down to the one. It's one God,
and so it's Citan against God. And so you know,
we Christians and Jews worship the same god. It's the
God of Abraham. So it's as simple as that. I mean,
it's the God of Abraham. It's the one true God.
And everybody following him is getting hit pretty hard right now.
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And you're seeing this Christian not Christian. You're seeing the
true God and people who follow the true God, the
God of Abraham, whether you're Jewish or Christian. And then
you're the Muslim you know, it's it's I think I
think Mary actually talked about that happening in times would
be between Islam and Christianity.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
And it just kind of seems like, you know, when
you hear about when you read about Moses, and of
course everybody's seen them movies and all that kind of thing,
you know, where God hardened the Pharaoh's heart against the Jews.
It almost to me it seems like for some of
these just normal people that you would think to be
that anti Semitic for no reason. I mean, why would
rich college kids go into UCLA all of a sudden
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not like Jewish people. I mean that just it's almost
like something i'd do hard.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I have a theory I think it was from because
I saw it play out in my own work situation.
So I worked with a girl from Iran. She grew up,
she grew up with the Muslim family, but she did
not like the Muslim religion and she doesn't really consider
herself Christian. She went to a Christian church over here
some but she doesn't really go to any church, but
people assume. And a lot of it was the gay
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The gay guys that we worked with would like post
stuff on her page, assuming that she was like Islamic
or Muslim and like pro Islam and anti jew Jewish stuff,
and it would make her mad. She was like, she
was like, I'm not pro Islam, I'm not pro Muslim
just because I'm from Iran. She's like, I have Jewish friends.
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You know, I saw what war did to little kids
in both areas. It was horrible, you know, I saw.
I remember hiding under the stairs, you know, when the
bombs were going off and we were scared. And then
she goes, I have Jewish friends who've gone through the
same thing. And she's just a very kind hearted person.
She doesn't hate anybody. And I don't know the demonic.
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The demonic is always trying to divide and separate and disunify.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, like I didn't expect you to solve it and
just letting thrown it out that I just can't understand that.
It just doesn't understand how you can just totally hate
somebody that you don't know anything about.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
It's good, right, and just to make assumptions, like people
make a lot of assumptions about her that she's Islamic
or Muslim, and she's not right, you know, Like she said.
She actually said, if I was going to be any religion,
I would be Catholic because that's the oldest religion and
at least their churches have been around for two thousand
years and they burn incense and they have an altar.
She goes, it would make more sense to actually, if
you're going to be Christian, to be Catholic. She actually
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said that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Hey, and she she probably knows more than something is
just the regular weekend warrior Catholics, right.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Right, I mean, just to show like not to be stereotypical.
Because also she has a child that her ex husband
is African Americans, so her child is half black, and
like they were posting all this stuff with like black
Lives Matter on her page and she was like, I'm
totally against. She's engaged to a police officer. She's like,
I'm totally against Black Lives Matter, and I have a
child that's half black. She's like, don't assume. Don't assume
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that you know where somebody stands.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, that's that's everybody me, including when you see people.
Just the automatic judgment or assuming and something like that
that gets you in more trouble and you're so often wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think that's what we want this
platform to be, is like, you know, God, God loves everybody.
God created everybody. Whatever you believe in. You know, we
believe God loves everybody. He created everybody, and he came
to save everybody, right, and so so yeah, to try
to leave the judgment behind and the pride behind, it's hard.
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I mean, it's we're human.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Well, this is going to sound kind of weird. I
mean I'm kind of like throwing you endo the bus
a little bit here. But you you've actually studied the
end times and you can see all the science coming
and all that kind of stuff for their next show,
not this one, So you can actually think about it.
What sign do you think would be the most defining
for you that you would know that yes, this is it.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Okay, I'm going to wait and answer that next time,
but I already know what I'm going to say.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, now you can actually research your Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
All right, I mean, but I have a lot of
I've seen a lot of evidence and just this in
the spiritual realm, just in spiritual warfare, and you know,
priests should talk more about spiritual warfare, and like, you know,
it's just throughout the whole Bible, Jesus and the apostles
are casting out demons, and almost every time there was
a healing, they were casting out demons. And like nobody
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even talks about we're not even taught in school, even
Catholic school, how to protect yourself and taught deliverance prayers,
which we should we should be.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But I know a lot of time they think that,
you know, like the demons, to make it easier. So
it's not I don't know what it's called scary or easier
to understand. They keep thinking that all of these people
had epilepsy. Have you heard that one? Just yeah, And
it's kind of like going, I don't think that many
people had it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
That was a lot of epilepcy.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Back then, right right. I mean, I don't know if
Father Rippiger, you know a lot of people haven't heard
of him. If you're hardcore, you know who Father Ripperger is,
because he's one of the exorcist in this country who
has done a lot of YouTube videos. He's got a
book out that's called Deliverance Prayers for the Lady. And
he said, he says something that struck me one time
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when I first started learning about spiritual warfare, and he
breaks it down. He talks about the different levels of
the demonic and what each of the demons are responsible
for on each level, and the five chiefs of Hell,
because Satan can't do everything, you know, he can't. He's
not God. He can't beat all places at once. He's
got five chiefs, and then they've got all these demons
under them that he said ninety nine. He goes, I
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don't want to say he's funny too. He's like, I
don't want to say everything's demonic, he said, but ninety
nine point nine percent of every problem, whether it's mental, spiritual, physical,
or emotional, is demonic. From my experience, you get rid
of the demons, you clean up the soul, the problem
goes away.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I think a lot of it might not start out
that way, but by any of those problems that you
just mentioned, if you have one, think by opening it up,
you know, instead of like praying on it and going
to God. I think if you just open up or
ignored it or something, I think that helps the demand
to get in there.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Too, right, and I get in through either sin that
you've created, sin that's done to you through abuse, which
doesn't seem fair at all, but that does happen and
or or you're just your wounds, just your wounds of
you know, we all have wounds. Didn't grow up with
perfect families or whatever, but you know, just through our
our own wounded, and they they'll take advantage of that
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and they'll get in and you know, they play on
your fear. So if you're wounded and you have fear
in a certain area, they're going to play on that
and they're gonna you know, the Bible says that Jesus
didn't give us a spirit of fear. He gave us
a sound mind and a spirit what does it say,
gave us a sound mind and a spirit of courage
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
But yeah, and it makes sense that.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I mean, to make it even more simplistic, you think
about it. If you have a wound, like your cat
scratches you and you can get a scar, well, then
that can get infected and cause all kinds of trouble.
It'd be the same thing as a spiritual wound too.
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh that's a good analogy. Yeah, because if your skin
it's fine, then nothing can get in. But the minute
you got a scratch, then bacteria can get in. Right, Well,
I'll give you a short story from my deliverance coach.
I went through deliverance a few years back with a
great guy named Jansen Bagwell. He has a huge ministry
called Hull Catholic. He has an amazing conversion story hisself.
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He had a Saint Paul experience because he was a
Protestant preacher and had several deliverance ministries. But anyway, not
to get off track, he has a story that will
kind of put impress upon people how serious it is
and how just prevalent it is. So there was a
little girl that was started having like night terrors and
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screaming every night, couldn't sleep, and the mom took her
to the doctor and there's nothing wrong with her. She
took her to the priest, and after the priest talked
to her for a minute, he called Danson and he said,
I want you to come meet with this family. I
think it's something demonic going on here. And not that
the little girl was possessed or anything, but Jansen has
like really strong discernment and gifts of spirit and prophetic gifts,
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so he immediately picked up on the fact that she'd
gone through trauma and he asked the mom, have you
all been through any kind of serious trauma? And the
mom's not even thinking, like what, we're so desensitized to
trauma and to sin as adults that she's sinking it.
She's like, no, nothing I can think of. And he
asked the little girl, He's like, well, has anything happened
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recently that caused you to be really upset or scared?
And she was like, yeah, my mom had a wreck,
so that her mom had been in this car wreck.
This lady hit them while they were driving. She was
in the front seat, her little baby brother was in
the back seat in the car seat, and in this
little girl's mind, this wreck was so traumatic. She thought
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that this lady had killed her brother because he quit
crying and he was silent. In her mind, her brother
was dead. And you know, like a few minutes went
by and that she got the little boy was okay.
Everybody was okay. They got out, they went to the hospital,
they got checked out, they talked to the lady. Insurance
was an exchange. In the mom's mind, it was really
it was an inconvenience, but no big deal. Everybody was okay.
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And this was a month later, But what had happened
because the little girl was traumatized by it, so the
demons had started That was a wound that the demons
had started getting in, especially at night. They'll wait, they'll
bide their time till she's alone, and they can really
scare her. And they were just terrorizing her because she
still had that wound. And the way he dealt with it,
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he just said. He asked the little girl, he said,
do you believe in Jesus Christ? And she said yes?
And he said, do you believe that he loves everybody?
And she said yes. And he said do you believe
he came to save everybody? And she said yes. And
he said, well, do you believe that he forgives everybody?
And she said yes. And he said, well, that woman
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that hit hit your car, you know she didn't mean to.
And do you think Jesus would probably be really happy
if you still love her and forgive her? And she
said yes, and he goes, okay, so let's say these prayers,
and he has specific prayers. She said that the prayers
for forgiveness and deliverance with him and them, no more,
not terrors, no more anything, sleeping like a baby. That
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it's perfectly fun.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Now, it's actually cool. I think I figured that out too.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, that's a really good analogy with the cat scratch.
I'm gonna be more careful around my cat now for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
All Right, So next week we're going to hear her.
Next week, next time we're on here, we're gonna have
you tell us the one sign that you're looking forward
most to seeing that's going to come, be that what
we call flashing light or flashing red light or something there.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, what's going to be then times here?
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, and so we'll look forward to that. And uh,
you want to wish anybody a happy, happy journey.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
I do want to. I do want to say something
about what today is real quick. It's something I've never
heard of before, but I get these emails from E. W.
And today the church Celebratest Major Saint Mary Major, a
basilica that was founded in fourth century. It's just a
cool mystical story. So in the in August of three
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point fifty eight a d. And it's the earliest known
church devoted to Mary. In August of three fifty eight
a d. The Virgin Mary appeared in a dream to
a wealthy couple and asked her to and they had
prayed and asked her how they should designate their wealth
since they didn't have any children. And so she appears
to them and says, I want you to I request
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you to build a church in my honor on a
specific hill that I will point out to you, because
there will be snowfall there tonight. This was summer. There
was August in Rome. And then she goes to the
pope and gives the Pope the exact same dream, and
they meet on that hill the next morning, covered in snow,
in the middle of August. They all had the same
dream that Mary said, build a basilica in honor of me.
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And every year on the anniverse, which is today, the
basilica celebrates this memorial by releasing white flowers from the
ceiling of the church.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
That's cool, and.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, it's cool, and it's got the old the oldest
known work of art, said to be done by Saint
Luke himself, of the Virgin Mary and the child Jesus
hangs there along with remnants of the crib, the Holy
Crib of Jesus in that church was.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Three fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
That was only what not maybe forty years after Actually
you could actually practice Christianity exactly.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I mean, they've got the crib of Jesus, they've got
a painting that Luke did of the of the Blessed Virgin,
and several popes have been buried there, including Saint Francis
was just buried there.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Oh didn't is that where I know he didn't get
married in the Vatican.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It was there, Yeah, he got buried. I didn't know
that either till today. So we celebrate Saint Mary Major
Basilica today and that miracle, and yeah, that's where Pope
Princess is buried.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's really neat all right.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Well, yeah, I hope everybody enjoyed our first episode. These times.
We'll be talking a lot more about these times, and
i'd like to thank everybody for tuning in and just
know that Jeff and I will be praying for.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
You, all right, bless you all. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Then wheels bearing untouching nothing fine, It is waiting for
three
Well, hello everyone, and welcome to these times with Jeff
and Steph. Now we are here to preach to you.
We're here to talk with you about biblical prophecy, biblical teachings,
and just talk about these times that we're all living in.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now. I am Jeff.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm kind of more into that history part, but she
is Steph, and she is going to be our spiritual
warfare and mystics expert.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Steph. How are things going out there in Nashville?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It was great, had a good day. We are enjoying
a break from all the horrible heat this heat way
we've been under. It's kind of been in the eighties
and we've had a cool breeze the last couple of days.
So got to get out and walk my dog more.
And it's nice. It's been a nice day. How is it?
And I want to ask you? Is it Colorado or Colorado?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Colorado?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay, See that's what we don't say that in the South.
We say Colorado, So it's called to the locals Colorado.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Right. Well, there's been so many people moving in here
that you don't know. There aren't that many of us
locals left anymore?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, Ye? That way too, So you had a hot
day there.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Oh yeah, it was like one hundred and two.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Except for us, it's not not We get spoiled though,
because like if I go to Tennessee and it's eighty,
it'd be here one hundred and two. We have like
eight percent humidity. So then we go down south and
you guys got like seventy and eighty percent. It's like
it seems like twice as hot.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, and you can't breathe and you walk outside and
your covered and sweat immediately. Yeah, it's lovely down here.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We have to deal with the dry heat, I know, right,
but this outernon's kind of sucky. There's some wildfires blowing
out in eastern or western Colorado, Nevada and Arizona and
Sivi where the wind turns and eating and all the blows,
all that smoking, so can't even see the mountains, just
kind of a big haze.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Wow. Well, which brings us to the title we picked
for our show, These times. We are living in some
interest times, and I feel like we both feel called
to get on here and talk about it. You know,
a lot of people think we're living in the end times.
I think you have to have your head in the
sand to not know that these are definitely whatever your
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beliefs are, these are definitely procures peculiar times. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And the one thing that always sticks out to me,
I think it was an Isaac where Isaac always said
in the end times, right will be called wrong and
wrong will be called right. And it seems like that
is today for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes, absolutely, which actually leads us in nicely to our
first topic, which I had. You know, I was talking
to a very devout holy woman Catholic friend today, lady
I'm close to. She's older, she's in her seventies, and
she's spends hours, you know, which goes to the daily Mass,
spends hours in adoration a day, and just a lot
of people don't know some of the really cool things
(02:52):
and miraculous things and good things. There's so much, you know,
bad and evil stuff going on in the world. We
all hear about that, and I think it's really important
to kind of highlight some of the awesome things God's
doing to uplift people. And the Cardinal Simone Simoni, right,
I think you say Simony, so he and it's a
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miraculous story even how he got here. Because I was
telling she was like now how did he get now?
Who brought him over here? So there's a lady named
Karen and I don't know her last name, that she
is a is a Catholic in New Jersey. And she
had a dream and Jesus came to her in a
dream and said, I want you to bring Cardinals Simony
(03:36):
over here to New Jersey and put on a conference
and have him do a worldwide exorcism. And she had
never even heard of him. So she wakes up and
looks him up. Now she has quite the conversion story.
She was kind of a falling away Catholic and the
Blessed Mother came to her a few years ago and
pulled demons out of her. Literally she saw and she
(03:56):
has this testimony online how her own mortals seem and
had contributed to her severe depression and anxiety, and she
had struggled for years with it. And the Blessed Mother
came one night and said, why do you persecute me?
Kind of like what Jesus said to Paul on the
road to Damask, Why are you persecuting me? To her
demons and she realized it was She says, she was
shown the demons how they were persecuting the Blessed Mother
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through her, because Mary loves all her children, right, so
if they're hurting us, then they're hurting her and they're
hurting Jesus. So anyway, she had this massive conversion experience,
got back into Mass, saying the Rosary every day, and
ends up having a dream a few years later, and
Jesus says, I want you to bring Cardinal Simoni over
here to America and have him do a worldwide exorcism.
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So she she said, it all came together so easily,
like put a team together, fown people at her church.
The bishop got on board. The Bishop contacted Rome, contacted
the Pope, so with the blessing of Pope Francis. Actually
this started before Pope Francis died. With the blessing of
Pope insists in Poclio, and Cardinal Simoni was a completely
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gung ho from the moment they contacted him, Sure I'll come,
even though he's what ninety six ninety six, Yeah, and
so he said, yeah, I'll come. So you know, from
the moment they started putting this together, there was a
lot of spiritual warfare. Everybody on the on the staff
and on the team was attacked, Some people had wrecks,
some people ended up in the hospital. The cardinal himself
(05:27):
was pushed down by gypsy who he recognized as the
devil in the streets of Rome. Pushed down and hospitalized,
had several bones broken. They didn't even know if he
was going to live, and within one day he was
healed completely fine, no broken bones, one day out of
the hospital and on a plane to America. So if
that's not miraculous enough by itself, so he gets to
(05:50):
New Jersey, they do this weekend conference. I watched all
of it, was it was incredible. At the end, he
does this prayer basically a worldwide excess and only a
cardinal has so for the people who are legalistic, only
a cardinal has authority and rights to do a worldwide exorcism.
And I think he's the only cardinal who has ever
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been an exorcist, if I'm not mistaken, I think so.
And you were saying he researched, he skipped. Usually you
have to go from priest to bishop to cardinal, and
he was given a papal dispensation by Pope Francis and
made straight from priest to cardinal.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, Prope Francis. When he heard about out him, he
called them the living Martyr of Albania. Back when he
was he didn't he's like we said, he's ninety six
years old. But back in nineteen sixty three he had
just performed a Christmas Mass, and when he was done
with the midnight Mass, he got arrested by the Communists
over there in Albania. So they ended up in jail,
(06:48):
in prison, all that, and he first he was sentenced
to death in front of a firing squad, because you know,
Albania Communism don't like Catholics or any kind of Christian
So then after that they know through the case of God,
he got sent to hard labor, so he had to
spend eighteen years and copper minds and people were dying
around him, but he would still hold masks for those
people he could trust. It wouldn't turn him in, but
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he would say it in Latin, and he had some
of his friends wh would sneak in a little bit
of wine and a little bit of bread so he
could actually do the Mass. And then he finally got out.
They let him go and he said all right. In
nineteen eighty one, they said, okay, you can go, but
you have to go get married and leave the priesthood
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And he wouldn't leave.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
He said, no, he said, I'm married to the most
beautiful bride in the world with his God, and I'm
not going to do it. So he hood out and
basically this really small town in Albania, he still did
masks and did confessions and that kind of thing, and
he's also became an exorcist out there, and that's where
he started his exorcist.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Calling, right and he said, and during the conference they
had interviewed him, and he said he saw he has
always had the gift of seeing angels and demons, and
even as a little boy, he was not an official exorcist,
but as a little boy, he just had the gift.
He said, he would just go up to people and
cast out demons. You know, that's what the early apostles did,
you know. And I don't know a lot of people
(08:03):
who can do that even that. I mean, I know
the exorcist pretty well here in our diocese, Father Rehill.
He's pretty popular. He's got a show on YouTube as
well called bat Already. But you know, I don't know
any exorcists that they can just go up and cast
out demons, but that he's always had that gift, he said,
since he was a little boy. And and ma'am what
just yeah, he said, just like working in the copper minds,
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people would did just from the cold alone, and the
water would be contaminated and like rusty with copper, there
was no clean water. The conditions were horrible. But just
to have that devotion to Christ that was unwavering.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
It's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How basically you know, he lived in pretty much obscurity.
But then Pope Francis heard about him and wanted to
meet him and see what was going on with him.
Found out about it, and he was eighty eight years old,
which is if you're if you don't know, like you
saw the movie, the horrible movie Conqua or whatever, all
the cao or all the cardinals cannot vote, and once
(09:00):
you had eighty you can go to the conclave, but
you can't vote. Well, he was already eighty eight, so
he couldn't even vote. He had never been bishop or
anything like that, and quote Francis said, hey, boom, you're
a cardinal.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah. Pope Francis gets a lot of flak for from
the Royal Conservatives, Catholics. But you know, and this situation,
I'm like, wow, go go, Pope Francis. He really did.
He saw something special in someone. He said, this is rare.
He's a living martyr, he's a living saint. Really, and
you know, yeah, I'm totally I'm like you.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'm more of the conservative side. So I was kind
of surprising him. Yeah, like you said, Francis, that was
a good call.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Pope Francis. Well, here's a here's a quote I saw
from one of the interviews i'd read with Cardinal Simoni,
and I thought, wow, this is just this is what
hit me, Like, this is what's missing from our world.
And you know, Pope John Paul talked a lot about
even he even had the whole thing about Theology of
the Body that he wrote because he saw what was coming.
(09:57):
He saw this war on gender and on our sexuality
and on marriage and the family, huge war. I mean,
this is the end times, this is you know, Mary
at Fadama said the final war, but will be between
God and Satan over marriage and the family. And we're
I think we're there. And the Cardinal Simoni, obviously he
refused to get married because he's married to Christ and
(10:19):
the to the body and to the Church. And he
said from communism. From communism emerged consumerism and materialism, which
Saint John Paul the Second condemned. Consumerism is about filling
our stomachs, in our pockets and fulfilling all of our
bodily pleasures. Morality has been thrown out and Christ has
been forgotten. God has been substituted with pleasure. That struck me.
(10:43):
God has been substituted with pleasure. And that's where we're
at today.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Really is watch mainstream. You know, the everything in basic
comes out of Hollywood. That's pretty much all they want,
right right.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You know, we we we've abandoned the Rosary and mass.
You know, a lot of people haven't. I don't want
it to be doing gloom because you know, I see
a lot of really awesome Christians and Catholics that have
not abandoned prayer or the Rosary. And we have some
awesome priests here in Nashville. There's there's a whole I
think there's a whole wave of awesome holy priests that
(11:19):
have been kind of coming into the ranks for the
last about the last ten or fifteen years. I don't
know if you've noticed that, but they're they're really they're
really on fire.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know, it's kind of surprising me. Is I'm Generation X.
I think you are too, right? Are you a baby?
But are you a millennial?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
No? I think I'm Generation X. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But then the millennials, they are the lowest in the
American history. When they do the surveys of church goers,
they're totally Lewis. So you think that this generation Z
that's coming up, you know, well, they're not going to
know anything, you know, if their parents didn't go well,
they're for the young, you know, what are they up to?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Twenty five?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Now? They are the one of the biggest fastest growingories
of any group in the United States right now.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Right And I heard that Catholicism is actually booming, It's
actually growing really really fast. And well, I've worked for
the church for a little while doing weddings and events
and like media and like the Bishop's Church, the big
church here in Nashville, the beautiful cathedral, and that just
you know, an explanation for that. There there was a
very holy young priest. He was from Vietnam. He would
(12:25):
live he saw a lot of poverty and he really
loves Fulton Sheen. He like he was too young to
be around to watch the shows. I mean, he's only
like thirty years old, but he he and I would
talk and we talked about why this is the cycle
of like people being lost and then weak weak Christians
(12:45):
and then how and he said, he said, Fulton she
said this once. He said, it's because when you go
through you know, like our parents, like the people who
lived through the depression in communism, like Cardinal Simoni, that
extreme persecution Commune. He said, when you go through these
horrible hard times, which I believe God's about to send
this world back through in order to make us strong.
(13:08):
But he said, when you go through these hard times,
it makes you strong, and it makes your faith strong,
and it makes you strong as a person. He said,
then these strong people have kids, and they don't want
their kids to suffer, so they make them weak because
they do everything for them. He's like, then that weak
generation is so lost and so weak that they create
(13:29):
a lost generation. And then times get really bad because
this generation is so lost, and when times get bad,
then it makes people strong again. And he goes, and
it's just this cycle that keeps going on.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And on, and it's funny because you can actually see it.
I mean, and just in our lifetime. You know, you
remember growing up, Okay, we were like the last generation
that got spanked. You know, it's kind of like on
the outs, it's kind of like, but we weren't like, oh,
like the parents would take the switch to or anything.
You know, we were the last one. So it's like, okay,
you can't do it. Well, now it's out a lot.
So then like the next generation, the Millennials, none of
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them got spanked or anything like that. They're the ones
who had to feel good about. They didn't want to
keep score when they were playing Little League baseball. You know,
they didn't want anybody's finger feelings hurt. Everybody gets a
participation ribbon and all that kind of stuff. You know,
everything is so good, and then they turned into kind
of a really bad generation. So now luckily there's other ones,
like you said, their rebound and they're saying, well, we
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don't want to be whimps like you guys.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You know, we want to see it. We want to
say there's.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Week and they have a service animal that really isn't
a service animal that they take everywhere for emotional support
because they can't handle anything emotionally exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, well, like they take it to Alva, to the
grocery store for emotional support, and the choua was more
scared than you would ever be.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
That's true, that's true. So so I think we're about
to go through some hard times in this world and
Anna shaking. Mary's been talking about this in Madjigoria. Some
of the proved mystics, you know, there's so many, there's
so many out there. You have to be careful who
you listen to. But some of the proved mystics have
been talking about a shaking coming for the world. I
(15:04):
had a dream. My dreams are really prophetic, I had.
I had a dream I dreamed about nine to eleven
before it happened, about ten years before it happened. I
dreamed about COVID before it happened. And then a few
years ago I had this dream that I feel like
it's coming into these times now. I had. I was
sitting in a call. It was like the coliseum. It
was stone, and it was like, you know, the seats
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were up up up up, and I was at the
very top and it was just like all these patriarchs
of it seems like probably Elijah and Moses, Moses and Abraham,
like everybody was there, like all the sayings and everybody
was there. And I was sitting next to this very
old man with a very long gray beard. And that's
how I know. I've never even heard of this saint before,
but in my dream, I just he looked at me
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so intensely, and he said the world needs humbling, the
world needs humbling. And I said yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah,
we do. And I was like, now who are you?
I was like, who are you? And he said, I'm Athinacious,
I am Athenacious, and I'm like wow. So I woke up.
I told my priest friend about it. He's like, look
up Saint Athanasious. He goes, he was literally the saint
(16:09):
in the early I don't know if I should have
looked him up, but I didn't think I was gonna
be talking about this. That's why I said, we're just
the Holy Spirit flow and some things, because this wasn't
something I planned to talk about. But a Saint Athanasius
was I know, either the second or third century, very
early on, and they called him the saint that was
against you. Know everybody was against him because it was
literally almost like him bodying the whole world for Christianity,
(16:32):
Like everything was against him and he stood, He stood
strong and convicted, just like Cardinal Simoni did. So I
think like you see that over and over again throughout history,
there comes times when the Church goes through severe persecution.
Everything's against every you know, everything's against you, and you
really have to stand strong.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, like the humbling part. I think so because I
think I've kind of heard a movement too, a lot
of well Catholic brace and I'm pretty much you know,
evangelicals and all of them. I've kind of realized they've
gotten med one thing that one thing that nobody really
talks about is pride. You know, God does not like pride.
Thing he does not like. But if you look at
our culture, all you're supposed to do is be pride.
(17:14):
I mean it's totally different.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Ris. You know, just do it.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I am beautiful, I am great. You know, no one
can keep me down and all this kind of stuff.
And so if you don't have a spiritual background, or
you don't read the Bible, you don't understand the difference
between being proud of what you can do and what
you accomplished because you accomplish it through God, and you
actually turn it over where you think that you're the
one that's creating and all that, and so you don't
really understand what pride really should be, you know, you
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should take it right. Instead of taking pride in God
helping you achieve these, you're taking pride in yourself for
achieving it. And it's really kind of some people up.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's really mess some people up. And I think pride
is the really the it's the backbone of all sin.
I think every sin is built on the back of pride.
You know. It was Satan's first sin. He was so
in love with the thought he was so great and
so he was the most beautiful angel. He had all
these gifts, so he was he was so he was
thrown out by pride. And I feel like that's that happens.
(18:08):
You look at Hollywood people who are just given everything.
When you start thinking you don't need God, you know,
because because we really we're just dust, we can't do
anything without God.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well just look at canaan Abel. That was all pride,
you know, right, God liked one and God didn't like
the other. So the other got men.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, everything's everything's pride, and you look at how Satan
has a hold on especially not to knock men. I
feel like God's doing a work in men. There is
a movement with men, because the devil has destroyed men
and marriages through these phones and through pornography. I mean,
pornography is like this trillion dollar industry, and you know,
(18:44):
even even the women have fallen into it, what my
priest will say, and it's just I can't even believe
the confessions I hear that it's women too. And but
I feel like there's a movement going on. You know.
He told me a long time ago, pride and lust
to mortal sins, and they're the flip side of the opposite.
They're the same porter, but they're the flip side, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So well, if you look at the whole feminist musement,
that's all pride. They didn't like the fact that men
were thought of as more superior, more head of the household,
and all that kind of stuff. So they had to
bring men down to try and build themselves up, you know,
instead of like trying to work with them. You know,
it was kind of like, well, we hate men now,
that's basically what the whole feminist movement was about, right,
(19:27):
And so guys, you know, let's be honest, you couldn't
be even today, most guys. You can't really be proud
of being a man. You know, you can be proud
of being a woman, but you can't go yeah, amen,
what you know.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I mean, it just doesn't work right.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And there's well, that's there's so much spiritual warfare involved
in that though, because in order to get women to
that point, I think women were made and men were
made to love women and to want to protect them
and to provide for them. That's how God, you know,
created man to be. And women were made to want
a man to protect, to want a hero, to want
her prince charming, to want somebody to protect and provide
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for her and to make her feel special. And I
think I think the way Satan flipped it is by
first of all, you know, men and men, if you
look at from a spiritual warfare perspective, men are responsible
for the not only the physical protection, but the spiritual
protection of the family. And that's what a lot of
men don't realize, like to lead the family in prayer,
to make sure that he's praying prayers to protection over
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his wife, over his children, and even dating, you know,
to pray for the person you were going to meet,
to pray for the person God has for you to
marry your cat, and so like what you know I
taught my priest friend never thought of it this way.
He's real big on like, you know, this society so
down on men, and I'm like, yeah, but do you
realize what Satan did. He made men untrustworthy. He made
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men be tatters and liars and these horrible people who
just are out to screw women and break their hearts
and do them wrong. And so what women have gotten
in their minds is, well, we can't trust a man
to protect us. Even if we get married, they're going
to leave us by the by the time where you know,
in our forties or fifties, they're going to leave you
for a younger women. And then you're gonna be stuck
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when you can't find a job and you're raising kids
on your own and you can't trust men. So we've
got to Then Satan comes along with the feminist movement.
You don't need a man, you're strong, you can do it.
You see how it all kind of works together that
first he had to take down men and get men
to stop being honorable and chivalrous and get women to
not trust men, you know, logically, so because what you know,
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things were happening.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, then you follow and it's.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Not made anybody happier. It hasn't made women happier. Now
women are on xanax and prozac and antidepressants, and they're
a mess and men are lunely. And it's just that
our culture is a mess.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well you take about it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Not only that, A huge thing I think was taking
the man out of the house. I mean there are
so many you know, and that that's the breakdown of
the family, just by reminding the men in so much,
and it was so easy to do, and I think
that's kind of the big one. You know, once they
once they were able to get men out of the
house more, you know that of course, it affects the
kids and the mom It affects everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Right, right, and it goes back to pride and lust
and like that's how you get a man out of
the house. I mean, you start having him feel like
he does you know, he doesn't honor and respect and
love and cherish his wife and somebody else might be better,
younger or hotter. I'm trapped and I'm just and it's selfishness.
It's like, you know, this whole culture, like Cardinal Simony,
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go back to like what he endured and still refused.
He suffered so greatly, and like our culture, we don't
want to suffer at all, Like we just think it
should all be about our fun, our pleasure. The minute
we're unhappy, oh, I'll just dish my family and go
do what I want. And it's like we've lost the
meaning of marriage, which is love and sacrifice, which is Christianity,
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which is love and sacrifice. It's I don't know, it's
just we've gotten into a bad place the world.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And the only reason you can actually do all that, though, too,
is you have to take just basically a societal shift
away from God too. I mean, right once if you can.
They had to drive a wedge in between the you know,
the whatever church you went to every Sunday, whether you're
hungover or whatever, but you still went. You know this,
but you still heard the word you know for that
(23:22):
kind of like you know, you stay home and watch
the football game and that's your day off. Man, go ahead,
and low the yard, and you know, and so I
think they had to drive a wedge to get away
from God and then you're able to break it down
a little.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Bit farther, Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, Satan's and the
fallen angels are much smarter than any of us humans,
and they're much trickier, and they know how to play us.
And if you don't have a strong if you don't
have a strong you know, moral compass and teaching and
you're not really relying on the sacraments in the church
and reading the Bible and knowing what God's word says,
(23:55):
then yeah, you're not really there were no match for
them that can overtake us really easy and get us
confused and give us off track. And yeah, so that
but to go back to the miracle of the church.
And and what's cool when you when you do draw
close to you know, read reading the Bible. Hard times
do make you make you stronger. Because I've gone through
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the last three years have been really really hard for
me personally, but it's drawn me so much closer to
God and just reading the Bible more, spending more time
in adoration. And so last last weekend I went to
confession and the priest there's really holy, awesome priest. He's
got a very very strong devotion to Mary. And for
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my penance. This was so cool. And I had talked
to my friend about it and she goes, I thought
the same thing. So she had the same thought, which
was very affirming for my penance. He told me, he said,
do you know the memor r prayer? And I said yeah.
He said that's what I want you to do for
your penance. And I said okay, and this is you know,
I walked out of there just it hit me immediately.
I'm like, okay, so in the confessional we know that
(24:59):
it's not really the priest himself, it's Jesus Christ, right,
Like you know, you even gave that example the other day.
Tell your story about the guy that encountered he had
never gone to that priest before, which one and the
and the priest said, you did much better with your
active contrition this time.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh yeah, I can't remember what that one was with you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, so you are saying, like this guy had never
gone to confession with this priest before, and he like
really laid it all out there, and the priest said, okay,
you did much better with your active contrition this time
and so the time before he had forgotten it and
couldn't say it. But he had never been to this
priest before, right, So proof that was, you know, you're
encountering Jesus in the confessional. It's not the priest, it's
(25:38):
not the person. So anyway, so that so when he
asked me to say the memoir prayer, I thought, so
Jesus himself just asked me to go to marry his
mother in this prayer, this ancient I think from the
third century. Maybe, I don't know. It's a long it's
you know, we've had a long time, and it's calling
upon Mary for miracles. And we all know that anything
you ask, anything she asked of her son, he will
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grant her, and anything anything he asked of her, she
will do. So it just it just occurred to me,
like walking out of the confessional, like he just gave
me an instant miracle because he himself, Christ himself asked
me to pray the memoir prayer. So when I prayed it,
I asked for me. I asked with the miracles that
I'm needing in my life right now, knowing she's going
to go to her son, and she's going to say,
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will you do these miracles for her? He's going to say,
of course, because I'm not going to refuse my mother anything.
And she's going to go directly to him because he
himself asked me to pray that prayer. So it's just
like a loop. It's just like a loop. He creative
of an instant miracle. And I started seeing the fruit
of it immediately, Like that night, I think I had
a sense of peace come over me. I haven't maybe
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haven't ever had.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, and so did my friend. And you know, the
priest gave her the same penance, and she had the
immediate thought herself, oh wow, this is an instant miracle.
And she and I both talked about situations changing in
our life pretty instantly in the sense of peace, and
even our friend that we've been all praying the Saint
Joseph novena together, the three of us doing a thirty
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day novena. Things shifted in her household so dramatically that
her husband, who's been drinking and they've had problems in
their marriage for thirty years, quit drinking. She just said,
I don't know what happened, but over the last seventy
two hours, everything's changed. So there are miracles, you know.
And the cardinal came over here and he did a
world wide exorcism, and then he went to Las Vegas.
(27:32):
We forgot to mention that, and he said Mass at
the Holy the Guardian Angel Cathedral on the Strip. And
then the mayor of the city of Las Vegas asked him,
this is a miracle itself to come to city hall,
because an exorcist needs the permission of the head of
household right to do an exorcism. So the head of
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household of the city is the mayor, and she gave
him permission, even though she's Jewish. She said, sure, I'd
love for you to exercise and blome the whole city.
So he did. And when they got in the cab,
they were, you know, just telling the cab dribber while
they were here, and she know the translator. He speaks
only Albanian in Latin, and she was translating and she
was saying, well, yeah, this is what we're here. And
(28:14):
the cab driver said, I'm not even a Christian. I
wouldn't even consider myself a believer, but I had the
most insane sense of peace come over me about thirty
minutes ago, and that was about the time he was
blessing the whole city. So miracles are happening.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And one thing, since you talked about that Jewish mayor,
I don't know why it flipped off to me. One thing,
you know, we got all these miracles going on and
that kind of thing. One thing I can't figure out
at all is the rise in anti Semitism around supposed Christians.
That is really surprising me right now. I mean why,
I don't know. You know, this God hardening somebody's hearts
(28:52):
and you think you'd be opening him. But it just
doesn't make any sense right now with the anti sentimentism
that's going around.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
See, I hear about it, but I don't see it.
So that's just like a lie in the media because
I see these signs like in Sylvan Park places in Nashville,
these little liberal communities that we stand with our Jewish friends,
But like I have lots of Jewish friends and I
don't see any hatred towards Jews in Nashville. So like,
where is this idea coming from that there's anti semitism?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Okay, the big one obviously you know what's going on
between the Jews, Israel and Hamas right now, right right,
And basically they have to get rid of Hama.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You know they're never gonna yet.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, all of a sudden, Canada, Great Britain and France
have all decided that they went to the United Nations
and they want to do a two state government.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
They want to give them Haamas their own. They want
to give them Palestine now after all this fighting and everything.
So those three countries have all said, you know, let's
just ge Israel get out of there, and we're going
to give the Palestinians back that land.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Oh well, so countries are siding with the Muslims and
not the Jews, right. Interesting, And see, I didn't know that.
And we to hear different things because you and I
are kind of connected to different But what I've been seeing,
how I guess it's probably they're being persecuted for christ
because what I've been seeing happening is a lot of
Jewish conversions to Christianity in Israel because there's a there's
(30:10):
an organization called One Nation I think that is going
through the streets with a New Testament in Hebrew and
they're and they're actually quoting Isaiah. They're quoting the Old Testament,
which is they don't call it that, you know, they
call it there. I forget what book it is, but
they're quoting Isaiah and they're saying, who do you think
they're talking about Jesus Christ? Or do you think this
(30:32):
is from your own scripture? And they're like, oh, that
sounds like Jesus And they're like, nope, wrong, this is
Jewish scripture. And they're like, if I gave you a
New Testament Hebrew, would you read it? And they they're
all saying yes. And they're like, there's so many Jews
converting right now to Christianity. You know.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I think actually that the just the regular Jewish and
the regular Christians. I think they're actually becoming even more
tighter than you know, nowadays than they were in the past.
It just seems because like you were talking earlier extremes,
you know, it's kind of like pulling them together. Like
college campuses and I don't know how Belmont and whatever
else is in Nashville, but college campuses are just totally
(31:09):
anti Semitic. I mean wow, because even they just announced
yesterday UCLA out there in California. Trump just took away
millions of dollars from because they were so anti Semitic.
So that follows Columbia and Harvard and Princeton and all
that money, and so he's actually he's actually fighting. I mean,
when they have all these big anti Israel, you know,
(31:29):
basically they're not even rallies, they're just basically they look
almost you just instead of the swastika, you put the
Hamas flag up basically, and it looks like that. And
so he's been he's been taking money away from He said, no,
you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well, you know what, from my little simple mystical perspective,
it just comes down to the one. It's one God,
and so it's Citan against God. And so you know,
we Christians and Jews worship the same god. It's the
God of Abraham. So it's as simple as that. I mean,
it's the God of Abraham. It's the one true God.
And everybody following him is getting hit pretty hard right now.
(32:03):
And you're seeing this Christian not Christian. You're seeing the
true God and people who follow the true God, the
God of Abraham, whether you're Jewish or Christian. And then
you're the Muslim you know, it's it's I think I
think Mary actually talked about that happening in times would
be between Islam and Christianity.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
And it just kind of seems like, you know, when
you hear about when you read about Moses, and of
course everybody's seen them movies and all that kind of thing,
you know, where God hardened the Pharaoh's heart against the Jews.
It almost to me it seems like for some of
these just normal people that you would think to be
that anti Semitic for no reason. I mean, why would
rich college kids go into UCLA all of a sudden
(32:43):
not like Jewish people. I mean that just it's almost
like something i'd do hard.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I have a theory I think it was from because
I saw it play out in my own work situation.
So I worked with a girl from Iran. She grew up,
she grew up with the Muslim family, but she did
not like the Muslim religion and she doesn't really consider
herself Christian. She went to a Christian church over here
some but she doesn't really go to any church, but
people assume. And a lot of it was the gay
(33:10):
The gay guys that we worked with would like post
stuff on her page, assuming that she was like Islamic
or Muslim and like pro Islam and anti jew Jewish stuff,
and it would make her mad. She was like, she
was like, I'm not pro Islam, I'm not pro Muslim
just because I'm from Iran. She's like, I have Jewish friends.
(33:31):
You know, I saw what war did to little kids
in both areas. It was horrible, you know, I saw.
I remember hiding under the stairs, you know, when the
bombs were going off and we were scared. And then
she goes, I have Jewish friends who've gone through the
same thing. And she's just a very kind hearted person.
She doesn't hate anybody. And I don't know the demonic.
(33:52):
The demonic is always trying to divide and separate and disunify.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, like I didn't expect you to solve it and
just letting thrown it out that I just can't understand that.
It just doesn't understand how you can just totally hate
somebody that you don't know anything about.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
It's good, right, and just to make assumptions, like people
make a lot of assumptions about her that she's Islamic
or Muslim, and she's not right, you know, Like she said.
She actually said, if I was going to be any religion,
I would be Catholic because that's the oldest religion and
at least their churches have been around for two thousand
years and they burn incense and they have an altar.
She goes, it would make more sense to actually, if
you're going to be Christian, to be Catholic. She actually
(34:29):
said that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Hey, and she she probably knows more than something is
just the regular weekend warrior Catholics, right.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Right, I mean, just to show like not to be stereotypical.
Because also she has a child that her ex husband
is African Americans, so her child is half black, and
like they were posting all this stuff with like black
Lives Matter on her page and she was like, I'm
totally against. She's engaged to a police officer. She's like,
I'm totally against Black Lives Matter, and I have a
child that's half black. She's like, don't assume. Don't assume
(34:59):
that you know where somebody stands.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, that's that's everybody me, including when you see people.
Just the automatic judgment or assuming and something like that
that gets you in more trouble and you're so often wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think that's what we want this
platform to be, is like, you know, God, God loves everybody.
God created everybody. Whatever you believe in. You know, we
believe God loves everybody. He created everybody, and he came
to save everybody, right, and so so yeah, to try
to leave the judgment behind and the pride behind, it's hard.
(35:36):
I mean, it's we're human.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Well, this is going to sound kind of weird. I
mean I'm kind of like throwing you endo the bus
a little bit here. But you you've actually studied the
end times and you can see all the science coming
and all that kind of stuff for their next show,
not this one, So you can actually think about it.
What sign do you think would be the most defining
for you that you would know that yes, this is it.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Okay, I'm going to wait and answer that next time,
but I already know what I'm going to say.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, now you can actually research your Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
All right, I mean, but I have a lot of
I've seen a lot of evidence and just this in
the spiritual realm, just in spiritual warfare, and you know,
priests should talk more about spiritual warfare, and like, you know,
it's just throughout the whole Bible, Jesus and the apostles
are casting out demons, and almost every time there was
a healing, they were casting out demons. And like nobody
(36:24):
even talks about we're not even taught in school, even
Catholic school, how to protect yourself and taught deliverance prayers,
which we should we should be.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But I know a lot of time they think that,
you know, like the demons, to make it easier. So
it's not I don't know what it's called scary or easier
to understand. They keep thinking that all of these people
had epilepsy. Have you heard that one? Just yeah, And
it's kind of like going, I don't think that many
people had it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
That was a lot of epilepcy.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Back then, right right. I mean, I don't know if
Father Rippiger, you know a lot of people haven't heard
of him. If you're hardcore, you know who Father Ripperger is,
because he's one of the exorcist in this country who
has done a lot of YouTube videos. He's got a
book out that's called Deliverance Prayers for the Lady. And
he said, he says something that struck me one time
(37:13):
when I first started learning about spiritual warfare, and he
breaks it down. He talks about the different levels of
the demonic and what each of the demons are responsible
for on each level, and the five chiefs of Hell,
because Satan can't do everything, you know, he can't. He's
not God. He can't beat all places at once. He's
got five chiefs, and then they've got all these demons
under them that he said ninety nine. He goes, I
(37:33):
don't want to say he's funny too. He's like, I
don't want to say everything's demonic, he said, but ninety
nine point nine percent of every problem, whether it's mental, spiritual, physical,
or emotional, is demonic. From my experience, you get rid
of the demons, you clean up the soul, the problem
goes away.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I think a lot of it might not start out
that way, but by any of those problems that you
just mentioned, if you have one, think by opening it up,
you know, instead of like praying on it and going
to God. I think if you just open up or
ignored it or something, I think that helps the demand
to get in there.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Too, right, and I get in through either sin that
you've created, sin that's done to you through abuse, which
doesn't seem fair at all, but that does happen and
or or you're just your wounds, just your wounds of
you know, we all have wounds. Didn't grow up with
perfect families or whatever, but you know, just through our
our own wounded, and they they'll take advantage of that
(38:30):
and they'll get in and you know, they play on
your fear. So if you're wounded and you have fear
in a certain area, they're going to play on that
and they're gonna you know, the Bible says that Jesus
didn't give us a spirit of fear. He gave us
a sound mind and a spirit what does it say,
gave us a sound mind and a spirit of courage
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
But yeah, and it makes sense that.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I mean, to make it even more simplistic, you think
about it. If you have a wound, like your cat
scratches you and you can get a scar, well, then
that can get infected and cause all kinds of trouble.
It'd be the same thing as a spiritual wound too.
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh that's a good analogy. Yeah, because if your skin
it's fine, then nothing can get in. But the minute
you got a scratch, then bacteria can get in. Right, Well,
I'll give you a short story from my deliverance coach.
I went through deliverance a few years back with a
great guy named Jansen Bagwell. He has a huge ministry
called Hull Catholic. He has an amazing conversion story hisself.
(39:20):
He had a Saint Paul experience because he was a
Protestant preacher and had several deliverance ministries. But anyway, not
to get off track, he has a story that will
kind of put impress upon people how serious it is
and how just prevalent it is. So there was a
little girl that was started having like night terrors and
(39:42):
screaming every night, couldn't sleep, and the mom took her
to the doctor and there's nothing wrong with her. She
took her to the priest, and after the priest talked
to her for a minute, he called Danson and he said,
I want you to come meet with this family. I
think it's something demonic going on here. And not that
the little girl was possessed or anything, but Jansen has
like really strong discernment and gifts of spirit and prophetic gifts,
(40:05):
so he immediately picked up on the fact that she'd
gone through trauma and he asked the mom, have you
all been through any kind of serious trauma? And the
mom's not even thinking, like what, we're so desensitized to
trauma and to sin as adults that she's sinking it.
She's like, no, nothing I can think of. And he
asked the little girl, He's like, well, has anything happened
(40:26):
recently that caused you to be really upset or scared?
And she was like, yeah, my mom had a wreck,
so that her mom had been in this car wreck.
This lady hit them while they were driving. She was
in the front seat, her little baby brother was in
the back seat in the car seat, and in this
little girl's mind, this wreck was so traumatic. She thought
(40:47):
that this lady had killed her brother because he quit
crying and he was silent. In her mind, her brother
was dead. And you know, like a few minutes went
by and that she got the little boy was okay.
Everybody was okay. They got out, they went to the hospital,
they got checked out, they talked to the lady. Insurance
was an exchange. In the mom's mind, it was really
it was an inconvenience, but no big deal. Everybody was okay.
(41:10):
And this was a month later, But what had happened
because the little girl was traumatized by it, so the
demons had started That was a wound that the demons
had started getting in, especially at night. They'll wait, they'll
bide their time till she's alone, and they can really
scare her. And they were just terrorizing her because she
still had that wound. And the way he dealt with it,
(41:32):
he just said. He asked the little girl, he said,
do you believe in Jesus Christ? And she said yes?
And he said, do you believe that he loves everybody?
And she said yes. And he said do you believe
he came to save everybody? And she said yes. And
he said, well, do you believe that he forgives everybody?
And she said yes. And he said, well, that woman
(41:53):
that hit hit your car, you know she didn't mean to.
And do you think Jesus would probably be really happy
if you still love her and forgive her? And she
said yes, and he goes, okay, so let's say these prayers,
and he has specific prayers. She said that the prayers
for forgiveness and deliverance with him and them, no more,
not terrors, no more anything, sleeping like a baby. That
(42:15):
it's perfectly fun.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Now, it's actually cool. I think I figured that out too.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, that's a really good analogy with the cat scratch.
I'm gonna be more careful around my cat now for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
All Right, So next week we're going to hear her.
Next week, next time we're on here, we're gonna have
you tell us the one sign that you're looking forward
most to seeing that's going to come, be that what
we call flashing light or flashing red light or something there.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, what's going to be then times here?
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, and so we'll look forward to that. And uh,
you want to wish anybody a happy, happy journey.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
I do want to. I do want to say something
about what today is real quick. It's something I've never
heard of before, but I get these emails from E. W.
And today the church Celebratest Major Saint Mary Major, a
basilica that was founded in fourth century. It's just a
cool mystical story. So in the in August of three
(43:13):
point fifty eight a d. And it's the earliest known
church devoted to Mary. In August of three fifty eight
a d. The Virgin Mary appeared in a dream to
a wealthy couple and asked her to and they had
prayed and asked her how they should designate their wealth
since they didn't have any children. And so she appears
to them and says, I want you to I request
(43:35):
you to build a church in my honor on a
specific hill that I will point out to you, because
there will be snowfall there tonight. This was summer. There
was August in Rome. And then she goes to the
pope and gives the Pope the exact same dream, and
they meet on that hill the next morning, covered in snow,
in the middle of August. They all had the same
dream that Mary said, build a basilica in honor of me.
(43:57):
And every year on the anniverse, which is today, the
basilica celebrates this memorial by releasing white flowers from the
ceiling of the church.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
That's cool, and.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, it's cool, and it's got the old the oldest
known work of art, said to be done by Saint
Luke himself, of the Virgin Mary and the child Jesus
hangs there along with remnants of the crib, the Holy
Crib of Jesus in that church was.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Three fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
That was only what not maybe forty years after Actually
you could actually practice Christianity exactly.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I mean, they've got the crib of Jesus, they've got
a painting that Luke did of the of the Blessed Virgin,
and several popes have been buried there, including Saint Francis
was just buried there.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Oh didn't is that where I know he didn't get
married in the Vatican.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It was there, Yeah, he got buried. I didn't know
that either till today. So we celebrate Saint Mary Major
Basilica today and that miracle, and yeah, that's where Pope
Princess is buried.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's really neat all right.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Well, yeah, I hope everybody enjoyed our first episode. These times.
We'll be talking a lot more about these times, and
i'd like to thank everybody for tuning in and just
know that Jeff and I will be praying for.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
You, all right, bless you all. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Then wheels bearing untouching nothing fine, It is waiting for
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