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September 4, 2025 36 mins
Steph talked about her big move, and how god has helped her along the way.   Lisa Colby is a 47 year old healthy woman.  She dropped dead from a brain aneurysm   After being dead for 11 minutes she came back.  No brain damage or anything. She did meet Jesus, he asked her 3 questions he said he asks everyone.  Jeff & Steph talked about how they would do with those questions, and would like you all to think about how you would do,  You can watch the video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL5PrBrgru4

You can watch and listen to Stephanie on her YouTube channel - In the Service of the Queen - where she talks about the blessed Mary     https://www.youtube.com/@InTheServiceOfTheQueen

You can catch Jeff on numorous podcasts   https://coolcasts.cooolmedia.com/

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Waiting the day night sounds. I gotta get to the
stuff bugs, get some magic bees, me on my way,
so magical as was my bone. We don't know. There's
no for that today.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, I want and welcome to these days that Jeff
and Steph. Yes, I am Jeff, and thank you for
joining us today, Steth are things out there in Nashville, Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hey, Jeff, I'm going good, just just getting settled in
my new place. Didn't even have furniture until yesterday, so
I had a bed. So it's actually better than when
I first moved to Nashville, when I didn't even have
a bed. But yeah, just got a couch and just
got my little dinner room set. So I'm I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Okay for all our listeners out there now, that song
is from Steph. Her and a friend of her did that.
What was it about fifteen years ago?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
That your Yeah, yeah, about thirteen maybe thirteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Ago, and they can still get it over on where SoundCloud.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
And yeah, reverb nation. I don't know where all. I
haven't really looked at my songs in a while. I should.
I should keep up with that better. I know it's
on reburb Nation. That's where I send it to you from.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
So if you want to hear the whole song besides
just that little clip, feel great. So you just got
done moving?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Huh, just got done moving. Actually planted flowers today on
my little back patio. I have a really pretty just
big enough to you know, put a little couch and
a little coffee table and it's got a place for
flowers all around the edge. So planted some flowers and
it's kind of it's just been I've been so busy.

(01:41):
This is, you know, the first and even even today,
I've been busy. I had to go. I had two
appointments already this morning for somebody who works part time.
I'm really busy.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
God's kept me busy. Yeah, it's like I'm working for
God now. That is how I feel, which is great.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well. Plus, moved into a place the pool, so you
kind of want a little downtime to go sit by
the pool.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes, My goal was to get over there once a
day and like even if it's early in the morning
when I first wake up, go for a swim or
at night. So far that hasn't happened. I went one
day and I did actually swim and I read my
book for about thirty minutes. So that was really nice.
And it's like it's he's given me my own private
pool because nobody's ever there. It's just me.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh, I can't beat that.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, it's awesome. I'm loving it. I wish my dog
could come out there with me. I don't think they.
I don't know nobody's there.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I could try it when we want to do that
into the moonlight when it was right, I.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Was gonna tell me not to. You know, this is funny.
This place is so quiet that I was excited because
I was coming back up from walking him, and there's
a nice little sidewalk all around the place. I can
walk him in the mornings and goes around the pool
and all that. And so I was coming back up
this morning from walking him and I saw a guy
like taking a box to his and I thought, oh, wow,

(03:01):
finally I'm going to get to meet a neighbor or
see somebody who actually lives here. He was just an
Amazon delivery guy. So I still don't know anybody who
even lives in my little section. The people that live
behind me. I have met that one couple that's really
nice and even said they wanted to throw me a
little party and introduce me. They said, everybody here is
very nice and they want to introduce me. So it's

(03:23):
been a real blessing.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, moving it's a pain and is a drag and
I and it gets your apprehensive and you've had all
kinds of emotions and then when you're over there, it's
kind of like a rebirth. I mean, kind of like
in the Bible. I mean, God had people moving all
the time.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I know, I do feel I mean, I'm exhausted and
my body hurts because I mean for a girl who
usually does like ten minute workouts, the day I moved,
I think I worked out seven hours straight, never stopped.
And it's kind of been that way ever since because
there's just a lot to do to get settled. But
but yeah, it's I do feel like a new burst
of creativity and creative energy and even like you know,

(04:00):
this morning, God started speaking very clear and loud, and
he was just saying, obey, okay, you got a table. Now,
you got your bible, you got your notebook, you got
a pen. You're going to start delivering some messages. I
was just letting you get settled. And I was like okay, God,
So I wrote down a little message. I posted it
on my YouTube channel. I'll read it here in a minute.
But yeah, he's definitely got some assignments.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
So have you had anybody to come over and welcome
you to your new house? Yet?

Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's been so amazing. It didn't really have any help moving,
you know, but I did have movers and they were great.
But the next day, like one of my friends showed up,
didn't even know that she knew where I lived, and
she just brought me a bouquet of flowers, and then
and sat down on the floor with me for a
while and we talked, and then really, this is still

(04:46):
like I just feel like, you know, God told me
you're going away with me. You know, this is our honeymoon.
It was like, this is like I've married Jesus now,
and like we're on our honeymoon and He's pouring blessings
onto me. And even though there's like some heart of
my stuff. I'm not saying it's all sunshine and rainbows,
but I just feel his love so much and so tangibly,

(05:07):
and even the way like my friends showed up with
flowers or the neighbors were so nice and welcoming. And
then like the other day, I had just got a
couple of plants, and that I had gone to this
one plant store near my old house. That's they're so nice.
But it was just like I felt the blessed Mother's
hand on it. And then she made sure I knew
it was her because they went out of their way
above and beyond to like put these plants in special

(05:30):
pots and put some moss on top and give me,
let me find you one that's cheaper. And it was
just such a blessed experience. And then as soon as
I got the plants in my car, something told me
I should ask her her name, and she said what's
your name? And I said, Stephanie, what's your name? And
she said Mary, And so I was like, there you go.
I was like, I knew it. And then I get home,
put my plants where they were, you know where I want,

(05:52):
and they immediately just fill the place with great energy.
And I'm leaving. I left again to go get this.
I wanted a sandwich for some reason. As soon as
I'll leave, this other friend calls and she's like, are
you home, And I said no, I just left, and
she goes, well, I've got father I still can't say
his name, Jaziroge with me. He's an Indian priest here
in Nashville, very very holy. Not a lot of people

(06:15):
even know unless you Father Fine and I talked about it.
He used to live at the rectory with Father Fie
and help out at Saint Anne's. But he's so holy
like that, if you've spending the amount of time with him,
you've seen miracles because the guy just he'll pray for people,
he'll pray from the Holy Spirit, and he'll know everything
about their life. You didn't have to tell him anything.
And then there's healings, there's miracles. So anyway, my friend

(06:38):
was like, if you're home, I'm in your area and
I've got Father Jesiroge with me, and we'll stop by
and bless you your house. I was like, yes, that's all, sure,
I'll turn around, I'll go right home. So I go
back home and they show up and he gets out
with his holy water and he came equipped with holy
water and everything and said the most beautiful prayer that
you would think he knew every detail about my life,

(06:59):
even the way he prayed for protection over me and
my endeavors. And all that, and then he went around
the whole. Another interesting funny thing. My dog goes nuts.
Anytime somebody walks in. He barks and wants to jump
jump on him for a few minutes, you know, until
he calms down, and then he'll be good. He was
so quiet. This priest walked in and he just looked

(07:20):
at him and he was He immediately laid down. It
was like the presence of God, like the animals recognize it,
like he was not. He just laid down and he
never made a peep. And so anyway, he blessed my
home and it feels good. And yeah, so I do
have a funny story. Okay, you asked me. You asked

(07:42):
me if I had any middle of the night stumbling
around moments. So you know, when you know, when you're
in a place for so long, you memorize everything. You
get up in the middle of the night to go
to the bathroom, you know exactly where everything is. You
can do it with your eyes closed. So I get
up in the middle the night to go to the bathroom.
My first night, or maybe it was my second night.
I come back to the bed and I put my
right arm down to crawling to bed, and I'm just
kind of crawling back in from the bottom of the bed,

(08:05):
put my left arm down where I think the bed is,
and the bed's not there, so I was off by
a few inches and I just fell straped flat on
the floor in the middle of the night. And I mean,
it should have hurt my own arm. Actually it should
have sprayed my wrist or something. But I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
One good thing you got blessed happened.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Well, this was actually the day before I got bless
That's probably why God.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Said she needs help. I got it all right, Father,
I don't care what you're doing. Get over there and
help her out.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Exactly. Yeah, so I fell on the floor. And then
another funny thing. I didn't realize, like everything's new like this,
so just so many blessings, like they had just replaced
all the kitchen appliances. And there's this sprayer. I've never
seen a sprayer like this. But when you spray, you
have to release it. Letting go of it doesn't stop it.
So I like how it going Before it, you know,
occurred to me to turn the water off. It's just

(08:58):
spraying me and everywhere and all over the kitchen. And
so yeah, that was that was like a loose that
reminded me of like an I Love Lucy moment, but it.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Was kind of thinking Beverly Hillbillies and that Fancy Sprier.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Right. I may be a little more beverlell Billies over here.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
But we really undercovered a really interesting story we wanted
to talk about today, don't we.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, the woman that died.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, this is really fascinating. This woman was forty six
years old, just middle class woman, married, had kids, worked
part time in her kids' school. Was just sitting at
the sink one day one morning, doing her dishes and
all that and drying us up. Boom just dropped over dead.
And we do know for a fact she was legally
dead for eleven minutes. I mean, that's undisputable. And then

(09:41):
why don't you pick it up?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
She says that she saw a being of light. I mean,
she just scrubs it. Maybe we could even link it,
link that video underneath our podcast. We will do that, okay,
because it's really great to hear her say her story.
But she says, you know, she encountered Jesus basically, and
he asked her three questions and it's apparently he's you know,
she came to note the three questions He's going to

(10:04):
ask all of us, and it's you know, she was
filled with fear, and I think we all have that
feeling of, oh, God, you know I can't there's nothing
I can hide. This is God, he knows everything, and
I'm scared. But it was just like such a loving
experience and such a profoundly, you know, life changing experience
that we wanted to talk about the three questions he
asked because honestly, if you, if you can live your

(10:26):
life with keeping these three questions in mind, I think
I think you'll be living a successful life in God's eyes.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
And you'll be successful in your own nights too.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
They're not easy questions to answer.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
No, they're not so the first one did you let
me love you?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And that one seems easy until you actually think deep
about it, you know how often and I'll I don't
even say this, going back to my days when I
was drinking really hard. I love God, I read the
Bible and all this kind of stuff. But when you're
drinking and doing something wrong, you even though you want
to be close, but you kind of want to keep
him apart. You want him to be there where you're
not doing such a good.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Job, right, And that's what she said. She said that
she was like, well, I tried my best, I went
to church, I read the Bible. He goes, no, no, no,
that's ways that you are trying to love me. He said,
did you let me love you? And then she brought
up the fact of how most of us feel so
unworthy of that love that we keep our hearts closed off.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, because as much as it's preached throughout the whole
New Testament, it's kind of like, you know, how he
did this for you, and how many times do you
not let it just kind of open up and say, Okay,
I accept it.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
It's kind of like you hear people all the time
and just sit there and go, well, God will never
forgive me for this. God will never forgive me for this.
You know, there's no way he'll ever forgive me because
I did that, right.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I think that's the greatest gift. I'm just realizing about
the last three years of my life and going through
a divorce and just being so heartbroken and sorrowful. When
you get down to that place of real brokenness, it's
really a blessing because you don't really have a lot
of choice if you're going to it's come like you're
drowning and you're gonna sink if you don't open up
your heart and let Jesus love you, because you've got

(12:07):
to let him reach out to you and help you,
or you're going to go under. There's just you realize
at some point there's no other way.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
How do you do? I don't. I wouldn't have done
very well on that question. How would you do?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think now I'm doing good. I think I've been
like everybody else in the past and had a you know,
trouble receiving love and not feeling worthy. But that's what
has made this whole experience feel so blessed. It's because
I think I am letting him love me, and I
am feeling it. I feel like I just got married

(12:39):
and my husband is the most adoring, loving shower me
with blessings. And my husband happens to be the creator
of the holy entire universe, right, and that's you know,
that's what he wants, even for men. You know, that's
a weird analogy, but he says that in the Bible
that I am your first husband, whether you're a man
or a woman. He's he's our spouse first, first and foremost.

(12:59):
So yeah, it's like, if you could get to that
point where you're opening up your heart and not keeping
everything so closed off, you would feel his love and
his blessings. I have no doubt every single person, because
he wants to pour that onto all of us.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
And that question is kind of well, you think, I, well, okay, well,
so I really didn't let you love me. But that's
kind of me not being selfish, so I'm kind of okay.
But then he bombs her with the second question.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah. So then he says, did you see me in everyone?
And her answer was probably like a lot of us,
she thought she was a good Christian. She said, yeah,
I get you know, if I saw a homeless person,
I'd give him some money. I prayed for people. I
try to be kind. But then, you know, she realizes
that there were times that she would see the homeless
person and all she saw was her own judgment, or

(13:47):
they were dirty and stinky, or somebody was rude to her.
And again, I guess she saw her own judgment. She
didn't really see that there was somebody crying out. He
started showing her that there was a very wounded person
there that just wanted to be seen and how really
it was Christ wanting to be seen in that person, right.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean, so if you walk in along and hey,
can you give me five bucks? I can get some lunch. Yeah,
you give them a five bucks, and you think that
I did my Christianity. You didn't look at that person.
You didn't take any account of who they are what,
you know, they were kind of gross and all that
kind of stuff. You never really looked in their eye.
You know, you didn't see that there was a person
in there that Jesus loved and they need your help.

(14:26):
You just kind of like, oh, this should be good enough.
I'm giving you some money. So that's you didn't really
ever look. And then not just homeless people, but it
can be somebody who's having a bad day as your waiter,
or you know, somebody at the supermarket who's just training
on their first day and all was when they get
slammed by people. There's so many people just don't you
don't look them in the eye.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, I think, how do you think you do on
that question?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Not very good. I'm the kind of guy who, you know,
kind of like they're the ones on the freeway, you know, hey,
can I have some money and all this kind of stuff.
It's like I automatically just assume it's you know, you're
as much time as you put the holding up that
sign saying I'm a veteran, give me some money. I
think you could have gone over them somewhere. And I

(15:08):
don't know, I just I'm not very good at that.
But I think I'm pretty decent when it's obvious, you know,
like if there's a handicap person or an old person
or something like that who needs your help. Yeah, you
know all that. But when it's like, how often do
you look for me, I'm not looking for Jesus. I'm
just looking for the easiest people to help, actually, right, I.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Think for me, I've always, for whatever reason, done well
with the people who even like the homeless people. I
see see people on the street, and I do look
into their eyes and I pray, and I will pray
for them. I usually won't give them money, because a
lot of times they're just going to buy alcohol or
something with it, but I figure prayer is more important
for them than money anyway, So I will pray for them.

(15:48):
I will somehow I have like some kind of sixth
sense of I don't know what it's empathy, and I
will feel their loneliness, I'll feel their pain. So I
think I do definitely feel Jesus in maybe people who
are down and out. But what it's hard, when it's
hard for me is when it's just somebody like in
your life to not take it personally like that you've

(16:10):
maybe been really kind to you know, I'm thinking of
one particular person. I won't say any names, but when
you've been really kind and they and maybe this person
has not been kind to you. They've wounded you, that
they've hurt you, and you've had the graciousness to go
above and beyond, to be forgiving, to think of them,
to maybe do something considerate, and they don't even say

(16:30):
thank you. That's hard for me. That's where I.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Struggle, right And yeah, you're not going to look into
them and thinking that what possible. They're just a jerk,
you know what now, And I don't want anything to
do with them. They're they're never going to change. They're
a jerk. And all this kind of stuff you don't.
You don't look to try and figure out is there
something wrong with you know, what are they going through? Right?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's like, okay, God, and I think God will show you.
I have pray. I'm like, show me, and I guess
the answer is we're all wounded. And what's that old saying?
Hurt people? Hurting people hurt people. So when you're hurting,
you probably do have a tendency to hurt people. And yeah,
that's the that's the category I probably don't do well with.
I think about my old boss from the company where

(17:12):
I was treated unfairly too. It's it's kind of hard
for me to see Jesus and her, I'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
There, Yeah, and he wants to make sure that he's there.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, he's there, and like I don't know what kind
of childhood she had and all that exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
And I kind of think it kind of goes back
to the first part too, because if you let me
love you, okay, so this person hurt you, and so
you're kind of shutting them out for Jesus saying, hey, man,
I can take care of this person, you know. You
just be nice to him, you know, and let me
deal with them, and I'll deal with you too, so
don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, and it does help you, Like I have felt that,
Like I don't feel so word I'm depleted. I don't
feel depleted. So I feel like my cup is overflowing
because of Him, because of God. And so I do
have the ability to be gracious and forgiving. And I
think that's where forgiveness comes from and why we can't
do it on our own, Like we have to let

(18:04):
Him love us and fill us up and then we
can love other people and forgive.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Now, the first two, okay, do you let me Jesus
love you? Okay? That one, it's pretty easy to get.
You think, Okay, so you pray, you know, Okay, open
my heart, let me see, let me accept you in,
let me realise I'm worthy. Well do you see me? Okay, Well,
I'm going to start looking in people's eyes. I'm going
to not judge them and all that kind of stuff.
This third one's kind of tough because that's it's it's calling.

(18:34):
You have to do something.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, he said, did you use the wounds I gave you?
And I'm like wow, yeah, and I would say not real.
Well until now, I think I'm going through like probably
the best time of my life, the hardest time of
my life, but also the best time of my life.
I'm just starting to see the blessings, which is great.
So these all these wounds that I have that I

(18:56):
do recognize God's sovereign. So if you're wounded, if something happens,
he allowed it, or he calls it. He wanted you
to go through it. So he expects you to use
it somehow.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right, And like you said, he wants you to use it.
And that when she was talking about the story with
Jesus basically told her is the scars I gave you
are not punishment. They're for testimony for you to help
other people. That's really bone, that's really notice.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, He's like, so all the failure was given to
you so that you could have a more compassionate heart
to uplift somebody else later on when they are going
through failure. And what was the other one?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, just get really testimony. That's what he wants you
to get testimony. Yeah, And it's kind of like, and
I think all of us we think our scars are
either punishment or failure or you know, it's our fault
and all that kind of stuff, But you don't realize
that that's kind of important.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
To him.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
He wants you to use that you know, you know
he can't have h Well, let's just do the easy
one for Peter. You can't have Peter have you know,
been a perfect little boy and still be the foundation
of the church. It wouldn't it worked out that way, right?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You couldn't relate to anybody. I mean, if you've never
had any if you've never been through the fire and
the storms, how could you be compassionate and empathetic and
how can you relate to other people and you can't
really lift other people up and give them the kindness
they like. One of the ladies that's been there for me,
actually two of them have gone through a lot in life.
They've one was a single mom, her husband died early on.

(20:25):
She had a naked on her own. Just is like
the people that have gone through a lot have been
able to pour into me right now during this season.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, And I think just human nature because most of
the people listen to us are Catholic and they always
tell you, you know, I don't remember the book, but after
Jesus's for he sends into heaven, he goes, Okay, now
go for worth and preach the gospel. So every Catholic
church they say, okay, now go for worth and spread
and all these Most of the people in there like
I can't go out and do that. I can't go

(20:53):
out and preach or give testimonies, or I can't even
go to the grocery store and said, you know, if
you believed in Jesus, you know, he would have a lot.
But they're just not wired that way. But then when
you think about the whole thing about you know, just
you don't need to do that. You see somebody hurting
and you can just kind of like do something in
your life, going what's wrong, Well, I'm gonna you know,
and they have all these issues, and you go, well,

(21:14):
you know when I was your age, you know, I
was going through the same thing. And you can actually
help people out a lot just by leading. You don't
have to stand on the corner and breach.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
You don't. You don't have to. But I have found
it easier to actually just talk about God. When somebody
loves you that much, you feel them pouring into you.
Like at the plant store, the lady said something about, well,
the universe is so good or something. I say, It's
not the universe, it's God. You know. I was like,
I can't tolerate that new age lingo anymore. Like now

(21:41):
it's God. I'm like, let me tell you what he's
done for me. And I told her how he helped
me find this place, and she said, I mean, after
I was done, she was like, I'm so glad I
met you today. I have chills. Like this is such
a powerful story. So I think it does also give
you the ability to stand up and say God's real
and this is what he's done for me, and then
maybe that can inspire somebody to be connected to him
that maybe was even doubting. I don't think there's a God,

(22:04):
but maybe there's this universal life force or some higher power.
And I'm like, no, it's God.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah I don't. Yeah, I don't get that. That's pretty prevaliant,
especially I can.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, it's kind of like, yeah, I believe in a god,
but not one that's going to judge you. And if
they just you know, it's just so beautiful. Look at
the flowers. There's probably a god, but everything's just peaceful
and all this kind of stuff, and it's like, no,
you can't have all the good. There's you know, there's
a lot, you're gonna have scars, and he wants to
use the scars.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
He wants you to use the wounds because honestly, honestly,
if we're following him, the only reason we have salvation
is because he's using his wounds. Right.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Actually, think about that. I just popped in my head
when he said he wants you to use their wounds
and scars, you know, to spread his word. You think
about it. Thomas wasn't gonna believe in him until he
actually put his hands in his in his wounds, and
so that's kind of and he said, well, you know,
you've got to do it. You've got to see my
wounds and you got to feel him, you know. Bless
those who haven't done it. So they basically for you

(23:09):
to let them feel your wounds, and is the only
way they're going to believe too.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's right, that's it, that's it. I mean, he's he's
using his wounds, every bit of them, every every ounce
of them to save us, and so we have to
use our wounds that he brings to us too.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
That saves other people, it.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Does save But you're right, I did. That is exactly
what we people. The power we're given as Christians that
we are we are we are following him and we
are we are to imitate Him. So we are going
to be wounded and we are going to be able
to save other people through our wounds.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
So basically we have to submit. I guess would you
call it submit? Just okay, I'm worthy, go ahead and
let me let me all take your love. And that's
going to be tough, you know, for me to do that,
And I'm going to look for you. I'm not going
to just push people aside you anymore. And I'm going
to use my testimony and to glorify.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
And I think that the first question did you let
me love you? At points she brought up is not
just that we feel unworthy, but we're too scared to
be vulnerable. It's like we get this idea that we
just have to close our hearts off and be tough
and be strong, and we're not going to open our heart,
not even to God. And that's such a mistake because
when you're really it's humility really, because that's pride. I

(24:22):
think you and I have talked a lot about pride,
Like I think that's the main trick of the devil
that keeps God out and if you can be vulnerable
and be like, yeah, this hurt and I was destroyed
over this, and you know, I'm nothing without God and
there's nothing special about me. But if I can be vulnerable,
he can use me.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, And did you talk about like you feel like
you're a bride now and all that kind of stuff,
and you know it's kind of starting there. Just look
at little kids. When the little kids, like I don't
know they're walking now, but they can't really and they
see somebody, they are so excited. They are just yeah
they they didn't They just smile and they run and
to you and they'll just grab a holding in all

(25:01):
that kind of stuff. Well, around the time you're five
and a couple of people have pushed you away and everything,
you kind of hold back. Now you're not quite so
willing to just run up to people in Hugham, right.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, we start to be guarded and that. Yeah, I
mean there's discernment you can't just you know, like the
world's not completely safe place, so you have to be smart.
But yeah, we definitely need to let our guards down
and be more open with each other, that's right.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
And I mean there is evil out there and so
you know, he's not saying that, you know, throw push
into the wind and just go up. You know, He's like,
you know, just believe in me. As long as you
believe in me, I'll kind of like guide you away
from the evil stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, he will, And I do believe that he'll send
his angels. You know. It says that to protect you
lest you even stump your toe, he's gonna he's gonna
send his angels to watch out for you. And if
and if he allows it, you know, then there's a
reason like if you get rubbed, if even if you
you know something, God forbid, you get raped, you get
you get murdered, you're going to heaven. I mean, like

(25:59):
sometimes bad things do happen to good people. But you know,
there there's a hard way of thinking that we can't
always understand.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
No, and basically the whole Bible, and nobody can understand
the whole thing, and there's always disputes on this and
that and everything, but those three questions are pretty black
and white. I mean, there's not a lot. There's not
a lot. You can't really uh well, you can't fudge them,
you know, because like like she said and that when
she said. The hardest part was she was standing in
front of him and she was all she felt was love,

(26:30):
but then all of a sudden, she also felt dread
because he knew everything that was in her heart and
everything she had done. But yeah, so it's kind of
like it's a little But that's why it's so black
and white. I mean, you couldn't. You can't justify it away. Well,
I had no I think we all happened. Well I had, Yeah,
you can. I had a rough child. That's that's why
I acted the way. You could have still actually helped

(26:51):
those people out. You could have still told people about
your tough child that instead of just used another excuse.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah right, we cannot use our wounds as an excuse
to her other people. We will be held accountable for that,
but we can be compassionate and understand kind of like
a dog that's been abused that this time is just
he knows how to communicate to each one of us.
Because I love animals. This time has just popped into
my mind like all dogs are born just unconditionally loving,
sweet little puppies that want it. They want nothing but

(27:17):
to please you. But then you abuse a dog over
and over again. And it gets to where it's fearful
and hommen in a corner and you come up to
it and it's gonna snap at you, it's going to bite,
bite you because it doesn't trust you. And that's probably
a really good analogy for the individual I was thinking
about earlier.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well, no, and it isn't you think about it. That's
kind of what those questions are about. Okay, this is
a dog. I don't know. But I don't think God's
really or dogs really know Jesus or anything. I don't
think they're on that level. But if you're But like
you said, the people who know Jesus, they might carry
in the corner, but they know, Okay, he's gonna help me.
I don't need to just bite every time. You know,

(27:55):
he's bringing me people to help me.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Right. That's why you you know, when you have a
that's why you are held accountable as a.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Human, you know, because it's not just all instinct. You
have some intellect in there too, right, But.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I would say dogs do coming. My dog did recognize
when the priest walked in there is something different about him.
He gave him honor.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
That's yeah, it's kind of weird because I mean I
didn't say in there that even God knows if like
a dove falls out of the sky dead, it does.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, and he loves the birds too, and it talks
about like, if he's going to take care of the
birds like this, how much more will he take care
of you? So yeah, he I always think of that
too when he says, how did you treat the least
of those among you? Well, the least is also the animals,
So I feel like, you know, you have to you
need to be kind to the animals because those are
the least among us too.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
No, and they're well in the beginning. But Adam was
given dominion over all animals. Right, If you're given that,
that means they're your responsibility. Dude.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, it doesn't mean that you get to abuse them
and treat them however you want. Dominion actually means that
it's your responsibility to take care of them.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
So I'm kind of giggling because I mean, people have
been listening to us. They know you and your birds.
The birds communicate with you.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh yeah, I got to tell you this. So I
have not seen any birds or had them come up
to me the whole time I met my new place they.
I mean, I see them in the trees kind of
in the distance, but none of them are talking to me, right,
And I'm like, I've even said all sude. One morning.
I'm like, are y'all just going to ignore me over here?
Like anyway, no birds talked to me. Nothing's happened, nothing's

(29:34):
come up to me. After I plant my flowers, I
went and sat down and I started watching the video
that we're talking about. And the moment I started watching it,
a hummingbird came up to my window and started tapping
on it. There you go, There you go, first first
bird experience I've had here. And I pulled up that
video that you and I were about to talk about, so.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And f you, we really recommend it. It's only thirteen
minutes long or something like that, but she give so
much detail and you can just tell from the passion
in her voice. Well we would link there, but it's
really interesting and like what we like. We said, she
was verified that she was dead for eleven minutes, so
there's none of this little he said. She said, well,
you know, she might have been having you know, synapse

(30:14):
pops and all this kind of stuff. No, she had
no brain. Weigh she was dead. And what's even more
remarkable that this one really shockingly she had a massive
cerebral hemorrhage. And if any of you know that, that's bad.
So when she was laying there and they were getting
ready to tell we can't do anything for her, and
then all of a sudden, boom machine started going that
she was had a pulse again. So they said, okay.

(30:36):
So the doctors were all sitting there and there are
one she shouldn't have lived. Two she has absolutely no
brain damage. Now, that is.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Right, and that's that's impossible unless there's something miraculous going on.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Now, you can't have any kind of I mean, a
stroke is basically a little cerebral hemorrhage. I mean you've
seen people have little strokes and it deliates one side
of their body or part of their face. And all
this hers no brand damage at all. They scanned it
and everything was fine. And but when you know, she died,
they of course they checked and they were, oh, man,
she's got a cerebralame it it's gone. Her brain's perfectly fine.

(31:10):
So if you're doubting the whole story, it's kind of
hard to doubt absolutely.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
And when you listen to her tell it yourself. I mean,
you're just going to come away. You definitely, I think
would come away knowing how much God loves loves you.
And it's a very inspiring video. It's it's not a
downer at all.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
So no, and she admits it that. You know, even
when she realized that she had kind of failed all
three of the questions that Jesus asked her, he kind
of just she didn't feel any less love. You know,
she's felt the love there, and then it kind of
sucked because then she could feel that she was going
back right.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
And he said, now that you know, you know, it's
not your time, and I'm going to send you back
so that you can live out these questions because your
family needs to see what love looks like. And I
think that's what he's calling, you know, all of us
to do right now. He's he's put some of us
through some really hard things, but he's giving us the
wisdom and enlighten to see what love looks like. And
he expects us to go show that love to others.

(32:05):
So let that be your lesson for today. Go love people,
Go show your love. Let the love flow exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I should have had that on there.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
You know, we should get that song.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Who was it? The bell me Brothers, Your Love.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Flow Them Love Flow.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, all right, Well, we've got some exciting We're going
to do another show on Saturday. It's leading up. I
don't know if you've been paying attention. There's gona be
two saints canon nice on Sunday, So we're going to
talk about them on Saturday. You know, at least one
of them, you know, of Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean I haven't been keeping up with the news obviously,
I've been moving. But Blessed Carlos Acutus, I think that's
how you say his name. He was a teenage boy
that died recently. He's like one of the quickest people
will ever be canonized a saint, and he used the
internet to to extol the Eucharist basically, and to help
other teenagers not fall into the pitfalls of the dark

(32:58):
side of the internet, to use it to glorify God.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
So you definitely want to tune in on Saturday or
Sunday morning before they actually do the cannonationan ceremony over there.
I guess that's so. I'm assuming I don't think Leo
probably approved it. It must have been approviated by Francis when
you think, I think so.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I think it was. Yeah, because there's already been so
many miracles associated with him.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
This is going to sound bad, but you know, I
have to make a joke every once in a while.
So this guy is basically the patron saint of the Internet.
So for his feast day, will it'll be like Cheetos
and chips and.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
That's funny. I don't know, so yeah, all it is.
And it's Pierre Georgio Brosaudi. He's the one who started.
What did Georgio for? So I don't know, we should know.
We'll talk about it Sunday. I know that he was
he's the patron saying for university Catholic, so like the
Catholic ministry of all the colleges, all the college kids.
I know that he's the patron saint. So he's going

(33:56):
to be canonized with Carlos Acutis on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
So that's pretty exciting.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, it really is me too, two really awesome, two
really awesome saints here and then really I think for
these times with the Internet, so I mean, we use
it for everything, so it's good for him that I know,
I do know some of the exorcists that do online
deliverance sessions, they will invoke him. And as for his
prayers and intersession, and Father Rosetti said, that's the only

(34:25):
way all the technical difficulties stopped. He was having so
many technical difficulties when he was doing these online deliverance
courses that millions would watch, and when he started invoking
Carlos Acutus, all the difficulties stopped.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
So there you go. So now you have a different
another saint that will help you out if you've got
bad internet, especially if you're in a rural area like me.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Right. Oh, and before I forget, just just to and
this was a story of one of the priests said
about the rectory too. They had these plumbing issues and
all these plumbers came out, couldn't find any problems, and
they finally just put some holy water in the toilet
and all the pla I mean problems stopped. Well, right
before I left my house and moved to this town home,
the toilet was like messed up and I couldn't get

(35:07):
it to work. And I was like, great, you know
my ex moving back and he's gonna think I did
this on purpose, and I didn't have the money to call.
I couldn't get it. Nothing would work. I remembered that story.
I poured some holy water in it. Just a couple drops,
flushed like a dream. Works perfectly. So keep your holy
water handy. It's very handy, that's true.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Since we're just kind of we're getting ready to leave
you guys, we were going to. But this is a
pretty cut story. It's kind of like that, you know
about the holy water, except it wasn't at our local
church out here and Buyer's. The roof was bad, it's
fifty years old, needs to be replaced, all this kind
of stuff, And so the priests when Sunday, he goes, Okay,
I'm having trouble with the archdiocese, but we need you
all to pray for sixty five thousand dollars. We need

(35:52):
to get this roof fixed.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Just keep your prayers in there, you know, so we
can get that sixty five thousand dollars to get the
we need a renewed roof. So next Sunday he comes up,
he goes, so do you guys all remember that hailstorm
we had on Tuesday, Well, that took care of the
sixty five thousand dollars from the insurance. We also got
enough now we can redo the rectory.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, so okay, so you guys all have a great day.
Thanks for catching another episode of US on these times,
and Jeff and Steph, here's hoping you don't lose hope.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
And until next time, we are all in it together.
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