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January 1, 2025 • 63 mins
Happy New Year! Jayden starts the year fresh with a new dedication to share more on his podcast! Listen to Jayden share a bit of his life and his advice and opinions on many topics of interest!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to think about it with your host, Jaden Miller.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Thank you, thank you, and welcome to think about it
with Jaden Miller. Happy New Year to everybody. I hope
you had a wonderful, wonderful Christmas. I am back with
a new episode of my podcast. I have not done
a podcast in over a year. I have been very,
very busy. Aside from my regular job, I'm a photographer.

(00:35):
On the weekends, I'm working on my PhD. So much,
so much going on in my life that sometimes you
have to put other things on the back burner. But
this year I am back and my commitment is to
do more podcasting. Now I'm not going to say I'm

(00:55):
going to do one every week, because then what if
I don't do it, then I'm a liar. I'm not
going to say that I'm going to do one every
two weeks, but I'm going to do them more regularly.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Okay, so regularly.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It may mean once a week, it may mean once
every two weeks, it may mean once.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
A month, but it will be regularly. It might be
two a week.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It just all depends on what is going on in
my life at the time. So again, I thank you
guys for listening today, and I hope that this year,
twenty twenty five is going to be a fascinating year
for me. I am already calling it for myself. For

(01:35):
those of you that know a little bit about astrology,
I guess I'm sort of in my villain era, you know,
and I'm just looking forward to all of the wonderful
things that I am. Do you know that I deserve
to come my way? Like Glorilla says, I'm on a mission, okay,
and I'm going to get back all those things that.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I lost in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
So, anyway, what is this podcast going to be about
this particular day, this first of the year podcast? Well,
I have assembled a bunch of questions from friends around
the country, students, some former, some current, and family members

(02:23):
just wanting to get my opinion about some things or
to find out a little bit more about me and
that kind of thing. And so what I did was
I compiled a bunch of questions and I am simply
going to answer them. So I guess this first podcast
is going to be sort of an interview session. Even

(02:45):
though you know there is no interviewer, I guess I'm
kind of the interviewer and interviewee. So I'm interviewing myself
based upon questions that others have submitted to me.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
So there, and they are in no certain order or
anything like that.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I'm just gonna talk, you know, and which is I
guess what a podcast is about. It is just about talking.
But I do have high hopes for it though. Before
I get into these questions, I do have high hopes
for it. I'm gonna tackle some subjects and deal with
some issues and share my opinions, and they are my opinions.
Before I go on any further, I do want to

(03:23):
say this though, that I do believe in freedom of speech,
and this is my podcast. I am not at work
or anything like that, so I am not precluded from
saying certain things. And so if you are an older
person and you have children that listen to my podcast,
I will say this again, parental discretion is advised because

(03:47):
sometimes I am going to say some things that normally
I wouldn't say at work, in a school environment or elsewhere,
but I'm going to say them on my podcast because
this is my podcast and we still live in the.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Uni United States of America. They are still united.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I don't know what's going to happen after January, but
this is after January twentieth rather, But I do know
what's going to happen today, the first of January, Okay,
and I'm going to say whatever the hell I want
to say. And that's how I'm going to be on
my podcast. So in my work environment, I have to
be cautious of what I say, even though sometimes I'm not,

(04:24):
but you know what I mean. But on my podcast,
I get to say what the hell I want to say.
So there we go. That's how this is going to be.
So but I'm going to talk about a variety of
different topics throughout this twenty twenty five. You know. Some
of them will be about school and education. Some will

(04:45):
be about photography, which I absolutely love. Some will be
about relationships, which I see every single day. I hear about,
I talk about advice about, I share my own experiences,
and I will do a.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Gosh, there's just so much to talk about sports. There's
just so much to talk about this year. So I'm
really looking forward to really engaging in some real, lively discussions,
and I'm also looking forward to hearing.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
From you and getting your feedback.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So let's go ahead and dive into these questions. I'm
not going to have this podcast be too long because
I know this is New Year's Day and you guys
have family to be with and football games to watching
all other kinds of stuff. So I'm just gonna randomly
throw out questions that I have here. I have them

(05:40):
on my screen and I'm looking at them, and so
I'll just pull some out here.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'll start here.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Someone asked, what is my favorite book? What is your
favorite book? My favorite book comes from when I was
in high school and I had an English class, and
actually in English literature class, and we were.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Assigned the book to read.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
And I'm going to admit to you that I did
not read this book right away. Actually I did not
read this book until years later. So I had to
buy the book because you had to bring it to
class with you.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
And then the funny thing is is also I think I.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Was a sophomore in English literature class, but we actually
had to discuss it, and I remember having a teacher
and actually having to discuss the book.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
And I think what I did was I might.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Have read like a paragraph or something while the teacher
was asking other people questions, so that when she got
to me, I could at least answer the questions. And
I cannot tell you why I didn't read the book,
Probably because I was a sophomore in high school, and
you know, the only thing on my mind was how
I looked and what girl liked me or what girl

(06:53):
I liked, So that probably was it. But the name
of the book is The Count of Monte Cristo. The
Count of Monte Cristo by Alexander Dumas. He was a French,
actually he was a mixed race person back in the
early eighteen hundreds when he wrote this book. He also
wrote The Count of My not to kind of my question,

(07:15):
The Three Musketeers. He also wrote The Three Musketeers as well.
But so sophomore in high school, Okay, that's when I
got the book, and I didn't read it until I
was in college, and I probably didn't read it until
I was really into my college career, So not my
freshman year, sophomore year, junior, and probably in my senior

(07:36):
year in college. I actually sat down and took the
time to read this book. And this book has transformed
my life. Okay, now, I mean, for those of you
that aren't really readers, or don't know anything about the book.
It's about this guy, Edmund Dantees. And I'm not going
to get into a whole lot of it because there's

(07:57):
a whole bunch of other questions I need to answer.
But basically, he was he was set up and sent
to prison and met a man in prison that transformed
his life.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Uh. And that actually he learned a lot from the abbey.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I forget how you pronounced that, but he was like
a priest and who was also in prison. But anyway,
to make a long story short, it's a book about revenge, okay,
and how he was able to get out of prison
and seek revenge or sought revenge on those individuals that
sent him to prison and utterly destroyed his life.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
And when I say destroyed his life, they destroyed his
previous life. He actually became very, very wealthy. And that's
how he exacted his revenge. And I like the book
because it's a book about redemption.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
It's a book about.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Revenge, uh, and that he gets back at the people
that didhim wrong.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Now let me talk about that for a minute. Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm a cancer okay, born in July, all right, and
cancers are really known to be sensitive people, you know,
very caring people. And for those of you that know me,
that know me very well, for those of you that
see me every day, and I have students out there
that might be listening. Uh, but you know how I

(09:26):
can be. I mean, I'm a loving person. You know,
I give stuff every single day, always giving. But but
you know I also match energy, okay, and if somebody
is rude or ugly to me, I can I can
flip the script really quick, like in a second.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I think part of that become comes from being a
cop too, you know, because you always had I always
had I mean being a cop in Chicago, I always
had to be on my guard, you know, because you
stop a vehicle and one minute you know suspects are
acting one way, and then the next minute they they
flip on you. Then you've got bable of flip just
as quickly as they do. So I think that's probably
where I get some of that from. But I think

(10:05):
really it just comes from me being a cancer And
I'm not a big astrology person, but I do believe
some things. And so if you know anything about cancer people,
loving people, sensitive people, but you know when you do
us wrong, We'll get your ass back, okay, some way,
shape or form. It might be years later, you know,

(10:27):
and getting you back might just mean ignoring you, you know.
But the kind of money, Crystal is just really this
great book about, you know, how you took this loving man,
this gentle man, and made him, you know, someone that
exacted revenge in the most horrible ways against his enemies.

(10:49):
And if you read the book, you'll find out that
all of them deserved exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
What they got.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
So all right here, let's go to the next question.
What are your political leanings? And what that simply means
is do you vote Republican?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Do you vote Democrat? All that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And I'm always reluctant to talk about politics because not everybody, see,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I'm a historian to some degree, okay.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
And I truly believe in the thoughts behind the creation
of our government, all right. And because I have thorough
knowledge of it, I mean, I teach it.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I've taught it, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
But I mean not only I mean at a college
level too. Because I've taught college, I've taught high school,
I've taught middle school, kindergarten, and then also life lessons.
But I've taught, and so I know how our government
came to be and the thoughts behind what the Founding
Fathers wanted it to be.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Now, the problem with that is there are a whole
lot of people today that are running our government and
those that are voters that didn't listen in history class. Okay,
that got f's in history, that got thes in history
because they didn't listen. They didn't pay attention to what
the teacher was trying to teach them about how our

(12:20):
country started.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
So I'm one of those kind of people that believes
in the ideals. Now I know that the ideals are
different than what happens in reality, Okay, I do, all right,
but the ideals are strong. You know, we wanted a government,
or at least the Founding fathers one of the government
where you know, it was we the people and not

(12:43):
the government over the people like they were trying to
get away from under the King in Parliament in Great Britain.
So I say all of that to say that I
believe that, you know, people should be respected in their beliefs. Okay,
So if you are a Republican, I respect that. You know,
if you are a democrat. I respect that. If you

(13:06):
are an independent, I respect that. But a lot of
people don't respect that, okay. And so I'll tell you.
I'll give you a couple of hints and experiences. Like
you know, I taught. I taught high school government, okay,
and I always teach from the middle, meaning that or
he always taught from the middle. And what I mean

(13:27):
by that is, you know, I'm not biased. You know
in my I wasn't biased in my teaching. So you know,
you have you know, back when I taught high school,
you had Joe Biden and you had Donald Trump, okay,
And if I said one thing about Joe Biden positive,
you know, you would have students. And this was during

(13:50):
the time of COVID, so you know, you never knew
who because we did classes on zoom, so you know,
parents would be in the background or something like that listening,
you know, and they could only hear the positive thing
you said about Biden, okay, But they would not hear
that you are being totally unbiased when you see it

(14:12):
something positive about Trump, okay, But they could only hear
the positive about Biden, so they would automatically assume because
as you all know, I'm African American, that that must
mean that I am pro Democrat, which was absolutely asini.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
You know, I mane.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I would get emails from parents saying, well, you know,
you have a lot of influence over my children, and
I hope that you will be you know, unbiased and
blah blah blah, and I'd be like, dude, did you
I mean, where are you getting this from? Why are
you so ignorant? There are a lot of ignorant, ignorant
ass people out there, and you know, they only hear
what they want to hear, Okay, And so you know,

(14:54):
the way that I vote is certainly my business. But
I mean, I'm not afraid to say that I'm independent,
you know. And actually my registration says that I'm an
unaffiliated voter. And why I am I an unaffiliated voter
or why am I independent? That's because sometimes I vote
Democrat and sometimes I vote Republican.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Okay, because none of them, none of the two.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Parties have exactly or do exactly what I expect them
to do, and I don't want them to. I want
to be able to be independent and choose whether or
not I like this Republican or this Republican ideal or
that democratic or democratic ideal. I don't want to be,
you know, marginalized into oh, well, you know, you must

(15:43):
be a Democrat because you know, you're black, and black.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
People vote Democrat, and that's not totally true.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
There's some ignorant people that ignorant black people that vote Republican,
just like there's some ignorant black people that vote Democrat.
And there's some ignorant white people that vote Republican just because, okay,
And there's some ignorant white people that vote Democrats just because,
all right, And so I tend to not fall into
those lines. I'm somebody that is independent. So there's the

(16:12):
answer their question. But but I'll go one step further
and say this that, you know, because a lot of people,
you know, tend to ignore stuff, and I just can't.
I'm really big about being a truth teller, okay, And
I'll go back to this whole thing about being a cancer.

(16:33):
You know that we cannot stand people that lie to us, Okay,
I mean we just can't. I mean, you know, loyalty
and don't lie because you're not to lie to me, okay,
But there's some people out there that just they just
ignore things and I'll go back to being someone that
is a historian of such I teach about or taught about,

(16:54):
teach about Adolf Hitler, and I teach about his rise
to power. And all people have to do really is
go back into history. It repeats itself time and time again. Okay,
So let's talk about slavery. You know, there is actually
more slavery today than there was during the Transatlantic slave trade.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Okay, don't believe it, google it there is.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, we're all these missing people at where are these
missing young girls that in young boys that sold off
into slavery sometimes sex, slavery, human trafficking, all right. So
history repeats itself, all right, and people tend to ignore things,
all right, that are right before their eyes. And so
I mean, I'm going to use this one politician as

(17:39):
an example, Matt Gates from Florida Republican.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
He just resigned his position.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
He was going to become Attorney general until this whole
ethics probe has come out against him from the House
of Representatives. Here's someone that has paid for sex with teenagers, okay,
paid for sex.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
With teenager, all right, and drugs.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
And yet there are people on the Republican side that
were going to ignore all of that ugliness. And then
this is the other thing about the some on the
Republican side. They tend to want to be conservative Christians, okay,
and yet they ignore everything there is in the Bible
about someone of this caliber Matt Gates that buy sex

(18:26):
number one, which is illegal, and from teenagers number two
that is also illegal underage teenagers, okay, and then also
on top of that illegal drugs. But yet they were
going to ignore all of that and allow them to
be Attorney general. See that's a problem for me. That's
a problem, all right. And then you know, again, people
don't like the truth. So if I were a convicted felon, okay,

(18:51):
I couldn't teach in school. And I would beckon to
say that if I were a convicted felon and apply
to teach out a school and they considered hiring me,
there will be a ton of parents that would come
out of the woodworks, okay that would want to say, no,
we don't want a convicted felon to teach our students.

(19:12):
But yet you'll put one in the office of the president.
So go figure, all right, go figure, that's just truth,
all right?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Some people don't like the truth.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
They want to hide behind their own rational or irrational
beliefs about why they choose who they choose. Okay, but
I'll just end that one with this and just say,
when most when most folks stop trying to be right
and just start trying to do right and live right,
they learned that they actually lean a little left. So

(19:44):
I'll leave it at that. Where are all the places
you have lived? Here's a little lighter topic. Well, I
was born in Chicago and lived there. I mean, can
I actually say most of my life now? I guess
I can still say most of my life I lived
there most of my life. Actually absolutely hated Chicago. Hated
living there, hated the weather. It seemed like it was

(20:09):
just gloomy and cloudy every day. I mean, I can
remember sunny days from my childhood. That's just how bad,
you know, I thought Chicago was. Having said that, I
lived a good childhood, you know, I had friends in
the neighborhood and really great memories like that. I just
did not like Chicago, probably because it was just too big.
And then I ended up working there as a cop

(20:30):
for twenty something years, and so you know, again a
lot of gloom and ugliness because you get to see
all of the ugly things that people do to each
other and other on all of the ugly things that.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Just so happened.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So I was born and raised there, but I tended
to always love going south, and so my parents were
from Mississippi, so I actually always loved going there, and
actually lived there for a year and taught there for
a year.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
But I've also lived in Texas. I've lived in Maryland.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
For a little bit when I was a little younger, Wisconsin, Colorado.
Still own a house in Colorado too. Where else have
I lived? I think that's it so mainly in those
days Now Arizona, of course, And I would say that
the state that I probably loved living in the most

(21:25):
was Texas.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Uh, But Arizona is growing on me and so I.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Really really like it here. Let's see, what's another good
question that people sent to me? What are your biggest
pet peeves?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
My biggest pet peeves? Gosh, that's one I've got to
really think about.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I guess my biggest pet peeve is when I'm talking
and people are trying to people are talking when I'm talking,
that means they're not listening.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
To me that happened. That happens in classroom a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
So if I'm teaching, you know, or if I'm talking,
and then you know, I look around the classroom and
see other people that are talking, and it's usually it
usually doesn't happen very often, but usually there might be
then that that my focus is off and that all
comes with and I know a lot of times people

(22:19):
don't understand this and I try to explain it.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
But you know, so I've had these.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Varying careers, you know, being in law enforcement and being
in education, and so my my law enforcement career helped
shape how I am as an educator, you know, whether
whether it's been as a teacher or as an assistant.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Principal, and so.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I see things from a different vantage point than those
that have never been in law enforcement before. So so
for example, you know, as an administrator, as an assistant principle,
I could you know, I could investigate and tell when
people are lying, and I would always catch kids up
and stuff, you know, or their parents actually too. But

(23:04):
then as a teacher, you know, I mean I'm really
I'm really focused on what's going on in my classroom.
And so you know, if there's somebody talking, my attention
then goes over there and off of what I'm supposed
to be focused on, because as a law enforcement officer,
you can't just be focused on what's going on over here.
You've got to be focused on what's going on all

(23:26):
around you. And so that's why i'm you know, I
tend to. I tend to, you know, have this hyper
sensitive ability to be able to be able to tell
when people are not listening to me, or when they're
when they're distracting, which ends up distracting me because they're
talking instead of listening to what I'm saying. So I

(23:47):
guess that's really it, you know, when people try to
talk when you talk. When I watch interviews, you know,
and I see people being interviewed and the interviewer interrupts them,
you know, that's another pet peeve. I mean, when someone's
trying to explain something to you and then you interrupt them,
that's just rude. And I guess I just don't like
rude behavior. Probably just comes from my upbringing, and I
just I like people to be, you know, kind and nice,

(24:11):
and maybe that just has something to do with me
being a cancer too.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
So here's another question, do you think you are a
good educator?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I prepare myself, and so I think being prepared can
make anyone better at being an educator. And when I
say educator, I mean whether it be a principal or
an assistant principal, or a teacher or what have you.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I'm just prepared.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Whether it's in my classroom, I'm prepared when I was,
you know, whether it's as an assistant principal, you know,
always prepared.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
For meetings or whatever it is. You know.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I think that's what it all boils down to, just
being prepared. So you know, as a teacher, I would
always like to have my lesson plans together. You know,
when you come into my classroom, you know what we're
going to talk about that day. Okay, I've got things
planned out. It's not disorganized, it's not chaotic, and so

(25:18):
I think just being organized in that way helps. Now
there's this personal side to it, because you can be
a good educator and be prepared, but you can also
be a good educator and students don't like you and
don't respect you. You can still be good at what
you do, but not good in how people perceive you

(25:40):
and deal with you, and so I would like to
say I'm a good educator because I'm prepared. But I
would also like to say that I'm a good educator
because I was a great cop, but also because I
really get to know though that I'm trying to educate.

(26:02):
You know, I talk to them, I spend time with them.
I listen to them, which is the main thing about
being a good educator. It's just listening to students. I
don't treat them like little babies, because they are not.
You know, I'm around twelve and thirteen year olds every
day all day. Okay, well not every day but most days,

(26:24):
and twelve and thirteen year olds today are not twelve
and thirteen year olds when I was growing up.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
There's a total difference.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
They are much much more in tune with society. They
are much more in tune with the knowledge of the
good and bad that goes on in the world. They
have a lot more smarts when it comes to sex
and sexual education and all of those kinds of things.

(26:55):
They are much more mindful about who they are and
how they look and how they look not only to
themselves but to other people. So so it's very different,
and so you have to be able to accommodate yourself
to them and not necessarily them accommodate themselves to you

(27:16):
all the time, all right, And what I mean by
that is sometimes you just have to you have to
remember that, hey, you know, these are these are young
people that are coming up that are much smarter, that
live in a different era, and they have they have
issues that you never had to deal with. I mean
a lot of the students that I deal with, you know,

(27:36):
they have issues that I never ever had to deal
with as a child. I didn't have to deal with
divorce and you know, parents, families being split up, and
drug abuse in families and you know, the Department of
Children and Family Services being called.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
And I didn't have to do.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, it just was not that was not something
that went on in my neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
You know. Uh, it was just not like that.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
But kids today they deal with those kinds of things
they have and then mental health issues. There's just so
much that they deal with and so sometimes, you know,
it can always be about the history lesson. You know,
sometimes you need to, you know, just listen to what
they have to say about what's going on with their
parents or what's going on with their boyfriend or their

(28:22):
girlfriend and listen and if ask for advice, give it
and if not, don't, or if you have a better relationship,
maybe then share some wisdom with them.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
But it's just different.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
And being a good educator is one that can teach
well but can listen well. All right, let me see
what's another one. Oh, here's some about relationships. Let's talk
about those.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Here. Here's a question.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
How have your views on love and partnership changed over time?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Hmm, that is a tough one. Uh, they have changed.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I still believe in love, I really do, and and
hope to be in love again at some point. Uh,
but but it will be different though. That's because I'm different.
My views on partnership have changed. I grew up in
a time where chivalry was was and what I mean

(29:32):
what I mean by chivalry for those of you that
don't know what.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
That means.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
That you know you should open doors for you know
a woman, and you know.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
That kind of stuff. You know that part of me
has not changed.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Uh, But what has changed for me is understanding and
knowing that sometimes people can be on some bullshit. You know,
a man and women, Okay, And for a lo long time,
society has led us to believe that, you know, women
are victim victims and and and women are very often

(30:09):
so don't get me wrong, women are, But then vict
women can also be victimizers.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I know this because as a cop, I've seen many
instances of women that have abused men in many kinds
of ways. All right, now, there are those people out
there that are liars and deceivers that want to and
that have this feminist view that oh, well, men are
dominant and all that kind of stuff and and and

(30:37):
that's a bunch of crap. There is domestic violence and
domestic abuse and it is wrong, and women have for
many years been victims of that.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
But then also there's this other side okay, uh that
a lot of people don't want to discuss because because
it's not, you know, something that society you know, has approved.
But I'm approving the shit because I know I've been
there and I've been a victim of it. That sometimes
women can be on some bullshit. And I'm speaking just

(31:09):
as a man, and I'm not talking about anybody else's
experiences but mine, Okay, And as a man, you have
to have your guard up and you have to be careful,
and you have to let people know exactly what you
will and will not tolerate, and you need to let
that be known at the very beginning. So if you
want to ask me, have your views on love and
partnership changed over time? They have, Okay, because I come

(31:32):
from that era of being that friendly, loving, manly, chivalrous
kind of guy, and I still am.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
But I'm not gonna let you bullshit me.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
And so you know my last relationship, you know, I
ran into that. You know, someone that you know had
some daddy issues and some abandonment issues, which are legitimate
issues that you should always get help for. But it's
wrong when you then put all of those negative things

(32:08):
that you, as a man had nothing to do with,
when they are now placed upon you, and then you
have to act upon this person's negative mental health issues,
and now they want to gaslight you and make you
seem as though you were the wrong person.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Uh nah, you need.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
To go get some help. You need to get healing.
Uh So, I won't dating anybody that's not healed.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I can.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I can tell whoever comes around me. That's why my
circle is very limited. I let very very few people
into my circle because I know, people can be on
some bullshit and you know, I'm just not going to
get involved in a relationship with anybody that's going to
bring that toxicity, that drama, And if anybody has gone

(32:56):
on my TikTok, I devoted quite a bit of my
TikTok to narcissism, meaning narcissistic women abusers. Women can be abusers, okay, yes,
emotional abusers, financial abusers, physical abusers.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
They can be.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
So let's not ignore what can be fact. And I'm
hoping that a lot of men are listening to this,
you know, and you can leave it, just like you know,
for many years, you know, women have taught women, well,
you need to leave him, and I'm saying the same thing.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
You need to leave. I asked, that's what I did.
You need to leave.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You need to if it's your house, you need to
tell her to get the hell out of your house. Okay,
you should not be privy to and not have to
deal with, you know, someone's narcissism. You know, relationships are
supposed to be loving and con You guys are supposed
to be building together and you guys are supposed to
work through issues together. And if you get married, it's

(33:58):
supposed to be a great relationship. But I also understanding
that sometimes it's not going to be great, but that
you guys still work together and strive together and fix
things together. The key word there is together, not just you,
you know and so. And when I say you, I'm
talking about the man or the woman for that fact.
So whether you are a man or a woman, if

(34:20):
you are in a toxic relationship with a narcissist, and
if you don't know what a narcissist is, then you
should just look it up or go on my go
on my TikTok page, because there's a whole bunch of
videos dedicated to narcissism. All right, But if you are
in that kind of relationship, you need to get out
of it now, okay, because it will drain you, it
will change you, it will hurt you, it can kill you,

(34:42):
all right, and you do not want that to happen,
all right.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
And it starts young, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Even so, even in middle school, I see narcissistic behaviors already,
whether it be from boys or girls. I mean I
see them, you know. I see some girls that don't
want to break up with boys because oh well, you know,
I really love him, and he's this and I'm like,
you are twelve, you are thirteen. No, you know this

(35:09):
starts young, you know. And the same thing with boys.
I mean, I know one, you know, one young man
that I think this was really kind of like his
first relationship, I mean, and it just ended really bad
and he turned in turned from being one of the
smartest gifted kids, gifted kids that I knew, to one

(35:33):
with major behavioral issues, you know. And see, that's why
I'm such a proponent of you know, leaving leaving toxicity behind.
You have to get away from those people, and you
can't always help people. So you know, if you get
into a relationship with somebody and you notice those signs,
just as easily as you got into it, get out

(35:55):
of it. You know, you have to say goodbye, sorry,
can't be with you. No, their red flags. You know,
I see the signs. You know, these things are non negotiable,
and it starts off at the very beginning. You need
to have those conversations before you actually start saying, Okay,
well this is my boyfriend or this is my girlfriend,
or taking them and we meet your parents or whatever
it is people do today. You know, to introduce themselves

(36:18):
as a couple to the world. You need to let
them know from the very beginning. These are my non negotiables.
These are the things that I will not deal with.
For men, do not use me, do not abuse me.
Do not put your hands on me in an inappropriate way.

(36:39):
You know, if you've got girlfriends, don't tell them stuff
about me that's not true, just to make yourself look
good in their eyes. You know, all of the little
ugly things that people do. Don't do them, you know,
because I'll find out. But people always find out about them.
For girls, if he puts his hands on you, if
he's a cheater, has multiple girlfriends.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
You all know these things.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
You see them. The signs are always there. You just
ignore them. You know, you have to walk away. You
have to put value on your life, and.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
You need to do that early. And so.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know, I've made those mistakes where I didn't put
value on my life. I put value on someone's life
ahead in my life, but not anymore. So I'm very cautious.
You know, you got to come correct.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know, I need to.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Know a little bit about you, just like you need
to know a little bit about me. You know, when
we begin, you know, but you you just you just don't.
You just people just need to be honest and upfront
about what they want and who they are. And that
is not something that you need to find out six
months later or a year later. You need to have

(37:48):
those conversations early on. So those dates that we go on,
you know, those shouldn't be just dates where I just
take you to dinner and pay and then you just
get to you know, eat for free, you know, or
we just go for long walks, and all we're talking
about is our love for each other and how our
future is going to be wonderful. We need to be
talking about. So how do you handle disagreements? Okay? How

(38:12):
do you handle money? What if I lose my job?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
What are you going to do? Okay? What if we
have an argument? How are we going to handle that? Okay?
Are you sarcastic? Are you going to be rape me?
You know?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
All of these kinds of questions are things that you
should be asking up front.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
They can be disguised as questions and answers or whatever
you want to. You can play a game or whatever
you want to, but you need to be in tune
with the other person's answers, and then from that point
forward say whether or not this is somebody that you
can be with. It's not always about looks. You know
a lot of times people choose people based upon their looks.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
That's dumb. Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Now, as a man, I'll say the first thing I
see is what is in front of me. But that's
just because that's how we are as humans.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Whe that way.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I mean, I want someone that's beautiful and has nice hair,
and you know, and takes care of themselves and you know,
somebody that other people can say, wow, man, you know
that's look at you.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I mean, I'm vain just like that too. Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
But again the question is how have your views on
loving partnership changed over time?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
All right, It's not just about physical beauty. I need
to know if you are an airhead or if you
got a brain. Okay, I need to know what your
financial status is, because it's always usually about how a
man's financial status is.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
See.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I can be rich, okay, and then marry you, and
then you come in and mess up my financial situation.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
See, I'm not gonna let that happen.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
No, And a smart man, a high value man.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Will not allow that to happen.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
That's why you got to be very choosy and very picky, okay,
and not just let anybody in, and not just let
anybody in that's got a big button, a smile new Okay,
it's got to.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Be more than that. Gotta be more than that. Okay.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
What do you bring to the table. It's not about
what I bring to the table. It's what we bring
to the table. Can we do this together? Keyword again
is together? All right, let me see what's another question
that I can answer.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Are you a morning or a night person? Why? I
guess I'm kind of both. I mean, I get up
early in the morning. I'm usually up at four o'clock
because it takes me forever to get dressed. I gotta,
you know, I gotta make sure I look good before

(40:50):
I leave a house.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I mean, I'm vain like that, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Just, you know, I mean, some people can some people can,
you know, have to be at work at seven o'clock
and can get up at six o'clock and be I
mean and shower, brush your teeth, do all this stuff
and be at work at seven o'clock in an hour.
I can't do that. Dude, I can't, you know. I mean,
I've got when I get up, I need to make
my bed first of all. Okay, I mean these are

(41:14):
just I mean my house has to be in order,
you know. I mean I can't live that kind of
chaotic lifestyle where I can just get up and just
go and just leave things. I mean, you know, I
have this what if I die or something then the
police come to my house and you know they're walking through,
like dude, man, this dude just that but he was
a mess.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I can't Or what if your fa you die and
your family members come and they've got to pick up
your pieces and they come in and like, wow, look
at you know, you don't make his bed. Look at
the sinkful editions and all that. I just can't live
like that. I can't do that. So I need to
be up early. But I also take my time. You know.
Sometimes I'm like watching television because for me, it's about

(41:54):
it's about my mind for the day. Okay, So I
might watch something positive because I need to be positive
that day.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I mean, especially if I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Be around twelve and thirteen year olds all day and
some of them you know have issues.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Some of them aren't positive. Some of them come.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
With their toxicity, you know, and so you need to
be because you can't you can't always you know, you
can't always be that authoritarian. You know, you can't always
just dump on them. You know, You've got to You've
got to be able to meet them and sometimes bring
them up to a certain level. And so, you know,
I like to like watch positive things in the morning

(42:33):
or listen to positive things.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
That gets me in the right frame of mind.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So that takes time, and then I need to iron
my clothes, and sometimes it takes me twenty minutes just
to decide well I'm aware, you know. And then I
like to sit down and actually have breakfast every morning. Okay,
So none of this is just grabbing something and rushing
out the door and or trying to eat it in
my car, because I like my car to be clean

(42:57):
and I like crumbs in it, so I gonna do that.
So why can't I just get up a little earlier
and take my time. I'm not in a rush, you know,
And that way, when I leave the house, I'm in
the right frame of mind. I'm not rushing, and I'm
just good. So I'm a morning person in one respect,
but then I'm also a night person too. I mean,

(43:19):
depending on what's going on, I might go to bed early,
but I also don't mind staying up if there's something
that I like to watch, or if there's someone that
i'm talking to, or if I have a visitor and
we have a really really interesting conversation, I'll stay up
late to have a great conversation with people. So so
I guess I'm kind of both. All right, Oh, here's

(43:41):
one about sports. What is your favorite sport to watch.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
And or play?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Well, I'll well, let's start with playing because I well,
actually I watched it too. Well, here, I'll just start
off this way. My grandmother introduced me to baseball, all right,
when I was a little kid, because she used to
watch baseball. And we have I mean, my grandmother certainly
is passed on by now, but I have those great

(44:12):
memories of watching with her the Chicago Cubs and the
Chicago White Sox as a kid.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
And I remember, you know, she took me to games
before and it was.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Just such a great experience, you know, just you know,
being with her and having that that love for the
game together. And it lasted I mean from the time
that I was a kid all the way through college.
She died when I was in college, but I mean
all that, I mean we had that memory together, you know.
And I actually named my first daughter after her too.

(44:45):
But so baseball and then as a kid, I played baseball,
loved baseball. And as an adult, when I was a
police chief, I coached a you know are there was
a combination of on My team was a combination of
police officers and dispatchers and.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Then some people from the community. So it wasn't all cops.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
But uh, but man, so I so I was. I
was a manager coach. I'm sorry, manager player, so because
I actually played too. So so I've always loved softball.
And then uh, in middle school, I had this great
opportunity this year to volunteer as a coach for the
UH for this softball team, which was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
It was a great experience.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I got to hang out with some some wonderful young
ladies that I had gotten to know, you know, over
the years, and it was just a great experience just
hanging out with them and getting to watch them and
watch them become better.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Uh. I'm a father of daughters.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
And so I have a tendency to lean towards girls,
mainly because you know, as a father, you know, you
you want you want to see women, you want to
see them grow up to be exceptional women, and you
want them to grow up to to to to be strong.
You know, it's that girl power. You want them to
have that. And so I liked. And then also you

(46:12):
want them to be able to see men in a
positive light, okay, And so I don't mind being a
role model to women. I don't mind well, to young ladies.
I don't mind showing, you know, showing them how men
should act and and how. And I tell them all
the time how boys should act. So for example, if
I'm teaching a class or something, girls go first. You know,

(46:35):
that's part of that whole chivalry thing, and there's nothing
wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I want. I want them to be treated as ladies.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
But also I want them to know that they can
be independent and strong at the same time as well.
And so I don't mind being that role model for
certainly young boys and men. But I don't mind being
a role model for young ladies too, because if they
come to me and ask me, you know, out something
or situation I'm going to tell them the truth, and

(47:05):
I'm going to share it with them from a male
point of view, and then I'm going to share it
with them from the right. I'm going to share it
with them from the right point of view, and then
I'm gonna ask them to look at it from their
point of view. And if there's some discrepancy somewhere in there,
then we might need to fix some things. But I
think I think young ladies deserve the truth for men,

(47:25):
and they need to see me in acting accordingly and
positively and appropriately. All right, you don't have anything else,
let me see there's a whole bunch of questions here.
I hope that you guys are enjoying this conversation. Let
me just tell you a couple of things while I'm

(47:46):
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Speaker 3 (47:58):
So today may be listening to me on Spotify.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Or on Apple podcast or so many other ones, Well
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(48:25):
out tremendously. All Right, let me see, maybe I'll do
one more because I don't want this to be too long,
and I think I'm getting up on forty eight minutes,
so let me see one or two more. Like I said,
there's a whole bunch of questions here. How about we

(48:46):
do this one. This one might be helpful to some
people too that are listening. What qualities do you look
for in a frand? What qualities do you look for
in a Frand mine are a little different because I
as I mentioned, you know, being a cancer, Uh not

(49:09):
that that's you know, this big major thing. It's just
an astrological thing that I mentioned.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
From time to time.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
You have a tendency to be very loving and very
loyal to people, and when people betray you, you take
that to heart. You tell I mean, it's like it's
like a wound that never ever heals, okay, and if

(49:38):
it does heal with time and with healing or what
have you, it's still the scar is still there, and
it makes you makes it very very difficult to trust
somebody else. Ever, again, uh, you don't like people to
lie to you either, you know. So what qualities do

(49:59):
you look for in a friend? I think the first
thing is is there needs to be this trial period
before you start calling people these are my friends.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I don't like the term associates and all that kind
of stuff. How come people can't just exist, you know,
without there being a title. So I mean, I like you,
we hang out, but that does not yet make us
friends yet, because I don't think there's been a test
to determine whether or not you we are friends yet,

(50:30):
whether it be from your point of view or from
my point of view. Okay, I might there might need
to be a test of your loyalty to see if
you're truly a friend. You know, there may need to
be a test of your ability to to to be
honest with me and tell the truth. And what I
mean by that is is a good friend will tell

(50:53):
you the truth, Okay, not that hurtful kind of truth.
You know that, because some people think that, you know, oh,
they can just be blatantly honest with you, you know, about
things to the point where it hurts your feelings.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
That's not a true friend. You know.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Some people think that, oh, well, you know I'm a
true friend because I'm blatantly honest and I'll just tell
you what I think.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
See, you can't do that with everybody, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
And I've come to find out that I can't do
that with everybody because again, as a cancer, we are
blatantly honest. Okay, but you can destroy somebody by being
blatantly honest. That doesn't mean that you can't be honest.
What it means is is that there has to be
a way that you devise that you can share with

(51:39):
them a truth, okay, without destroying them and hurting their
feelings or destroying their their esteem. There's a way you
can do that.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
You know. The Izi Brothers have a song.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
This is for people you know that are in relationships
and one of them doesn't want to be in a
relationship anymore. And it's let me down easy. You can
let somebody down easy. You don't have to be well,
I don't want to be with you no more, and
you this, and you that, and you don't fulfill this
and all that. People think that, oh, that kind of
honesty is respected. No, that kind of honesty is not

(52:14):
respected that's just hurtful. It's just like sarcasm. You know,
sarcasm is this this form of honesty. You know, I
actually hate sarcasm, but it's this form of sarcast It's
an acceptable way for people to be mean to other people,
but yet tell the truth. Okay, and it's a bunch
of bullshit. You know, you can you can be honest
with people, and you can tell people's stuff without hurting them.

(52:38):
It can be in a dignified kind of way, you know.
I mean I've had to tell people's stuff. I mean
I've had to tell students when you're probably going to
get an F in my class.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Now I can be real ugly and say, well, the
reason why you're gonna get this up because you ain't
turn in all your assignments. You know, you sit up
in my classroom and all you do is run your mouth.
You have come to school, you know. See that's that
You can say that that's ugly, okay, But you can
also say, you know, you're a great student, you know,

(53:08):
but these are the reasons why you're not passing, and
then show them why they're not and give them an
opportunity to fix it. Okay, you're still being honest, all right,
you're still letting them fix the problem. Okay, But being
blatantly honest can destroy people in relationships. I mean, you know,
there are women that tell men that, well, you don't
make enough money, or you're not handsome enough, or and

(53:31):
those things might be the truth, but imagine what that
does to that person by being blatantly honest with them.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Okay, that can destroy them.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
So the whole thing about being a friend is looking
for someone that is going to be honest with you,
but in a way that it's not to destroy you.
You know, you can tell somebody they're wrong without wronging them, Okay.
You can tell someone that, hey, you know you're going
down the wrong path, okay, without shaming them. You can

(54:04):
do those things and be a true friend. So there
needs to be this period of time where we both
feel each other out and then determine whether or not
we can be friends. So we can hang out, you know,
we can you know, call each other and go visit
each other and do all of those things. But we
don't have to put a title on it until there

(54:25):
have been some solid test to determine whether or not
you are truly with me, because when you really get
into the shit with somebody, you find out if somebody
is really your friend or not, and then you get
upset when you found out that wasn't my friend. Well
yeah it wasn't. But that's partly your fault because what
did you do? You called them a friend before you
knew them they were a friend, all right, So there

(54:47):
needs to be some test of loyalty and some other
tests to determine whether or not somebody can be a
true friend. So so that that's how it is for me.
You know, my circle is very very small, Okay, I
only let a few. I mean, you know, I have
several best friends, Okay, they are within my circle, they

(55:08):
know me very well. Then I have people that's outside
of that circle. I have family members that's outside of
that circle, okay, that I don't let come in very close, okay,
because you get to know people over a while and
you get to know who can disturb your peace, and
you want people outside of that circle that you know

(55:30):
that can possibly disturb your peace. You only want people
within your circle that are going to be for you, Okay,
even when you're down, they're still for you. You know,
even when life has hit you the hardest, They're still
for you. Those are the people that you can consider
to be a friend. And sometimes that takes time and

(55:53):
only you will know. But let there be some test
to determine that. Okay, I'm gonna do just one more
because we're coming up on an hour. I appreciate you
guys hang out with me on this first day of
January twenty twenty five. I hope I'm providing you with
some information or some advice that's helpful.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
But let's do one more.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
H This is a good one, and I actually don't
know the answer to this one, so I'm gonna have
to really think about this. But the question is, if
you could have dinner with any historical.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Figure, who would it be? And why? Wow?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I am usually not stumped for an answer, but I
do not have an answer for this one.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Let me think about this.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who
would it be and why? You know? What comes to
mind is people like you know, like Martin Luther King Junior,
or Malcolm Eggs or Abraham Lincoln and those kinds of people.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
But actually, no.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
You know, gosh, any historical figure, who would it be?

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And why?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
It wouldn't be you know, some assholeish people like Adolf
Hitler or anybody like that. Why would I want to
sit down with somebody like that, you know, I mean,
it would be fascinating to learn why he thought, why
he thought. But I don't think I want to waste
my time.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
I mean, you know, but.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Gosh, I probably would. And see it says historical figure.
So I'm trying to think of a historical figure. Hmm,
historical history. Who can I think back in time that
I would really really want to have dinner with, Well,

(57:53):
I would probably have to say, huh.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
I'll go ahead and say Franklin D. Roosevelt. All right.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
He was president of the United States doing the Great
Depression and during World War Two. He was the longest
serving president, and he actually died while he was in office,
coming to the close of World War Two. I would
say that I would like to just talk to him

(58:29):
about the Depression, and I would like to talk to
him about America during that time and what possibly he
could have done to have made things better. And what
I mean is this, And again, as someone that has
taught history, I know a lot about America during this time,

(58:52):
and I know that the Nazis in Germany before World
War two broke out, and came to the United States,
into the South and learned how to treat Jews by
watching how Southern Americans treated black people.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
And he was president during this time, all right, during
World War Two. He was president when.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Just prior to the war breaking out, and actually at
the beginnings of the war, when Jewish people were trying
to come to the United States to escape Nazi persecution
under the hands of Adolf Hitler and his idiots, that
many of them were sent back to Europe and weren't

(59:46):
allowed to come into the United States. Now, some of
that was just policy, and the president is limited in
his power to some degree, to some degree, but there's
also things called executive orders, which you know he did
put out, but I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Get to that in a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
But under his presidency he denied Jewish people come into
the United States, Okay, and then on also under his presidency,
when Japan attacked the United States at Pearl Harbord during
World War two, he put a lot of Japanese American citizens.

(01:00:25):
These are people that were born in the United States,
which makes them American citizens that just so happened to
be of Japanese descent put them in concentration camps under
an executive order. So I would like to ask him
a number of questions. First of all, how come you
didn't allow Jews to come here when you could have
used an executive order and prevented a whole bunch of

(01:00:46):
them from being killed, But yet use an executive order
to put a bunch of Japanese in concentration camps.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
I'd like to know the answer to that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I'd also like to know why, under your presidency, and
especially with the wife that you had, Eleanor Roosevelt, who
was a very very kind hearted woman when it came
to civil rights and those kinds of things, why didn't
you do more because you could? I mean during this time,
during the Great Depression and during World War Two, that's

(01:01:17):
when the country really should have united behind patriotism and
not been disunited, if that's a word, or not united
because of race. You could have done a whole lot
about that, and you did not. And I would like

(01:01:38):
to ask you why. I would like to sit down
and have dinner with you and discuss the state of
America during that time, and what are some things that
you could have done to change that and why didn't you?

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
So it would be deep, a deep conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
I would also ask him about his upbringing, So I mean,
I wouldn't just dive into all those things, wouldn't be
rude because but I would still want to know, like, dude,
you could have done a whole lot, you know, to
turn things around, and why did you not? Was it
because of your white privilege?

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Was it because oh, well, you know, I want to
remain status quo. I would have just wanted to know
a lot of why that is? So all right, Well,
I have gone over an hour, and this actually has
been fun having this conversation with you guys about you

(01:02:33):
know me and you know, the first podcast of twenty
twenty five. So I hope that you have found it
to be enjoyable. Again, thank you for listening to think
about it with Jaden Miller. There are going to be
more of these, and I am already liking being able
to have these conversations since to share my thoughts and

(01:02:54):
my experiences and my opinions and my expertise on a
lot of things as well. And so I hope that
that you will continue to listen and please again like
follow and share on my YouTube channel and like, comment,
and follow on your favorite podcast platform. This is Jaden
Miller saying again, thank you for listening think About It

(01:03:15):
with Jaden Miller. I look forward to talking to you
next time. Have a great day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
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