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October 30, 2025 94 mins
This Might Hurt Podcast : Halloween Havok 2025 Episode

It’s that time again the crew’s back and chaos is in full swing. Big Corleone leads the madness with TG Love, Dubs Tha Don a.k.a. Simon Phoenix, and Lady G as they tear into the dark side of the culture, the creeps, and the controversy. No filters, no mercy just raw talk, wild laughs, and Halloween energy turned all the way up.

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Ya yahm.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
We're live?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
This is this is my HERD podcast coming to you
live from I don't know wherever you want to say
we're going live from, you know what I'm saying. Anyway
you want it. You could say we're in Vegas. You
can say we're in Jersey, you can say we're in
New York. Wherever the fuck you want to say, we're live.
That's where we're live. I'm gonna bring in my lovely host,

(02:01):
Lady g Docdorughter.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Hey, Hey, Corney hone, what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
People's I am wonderful as usual.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
As usual.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
There you go, no reason not to be you.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Giving our candy this weekend?

Speaker 4 (02:23):
No, I am not.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
If you had to give our candy, what kind of
all right? What kind of candygiver? Would you be? The
little candy No.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'd be.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'd be the full size candy bar person. But in
all the years I have lived in my house, we
have not ever had one trick or treat. No, really,
in twenty years, we have never had a tricker treat.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
What's up with your block?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well it's a dead end street, you know. Yeah, not
a lot of kids around here.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Wow, that's so that's wild one treat.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Now, some years that's that's that's that's no, not for nothing,
But where I live, it's more of a like a
complex kind of thing. Yeah, And the the trick or
treaters go to the other side of the town where
the houses are.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, that's probably the way it is over here. I
mean even though I live in the house.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, they don't. They don't come around here. Because I
sat outside for like three or four hours last Halloween
and not one kid came by. I was like throwing
candy out there. I was like, hey, don't get candy whatever,
and nobody was like nothing.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, and I had all the good stuff too, Ayles,
So what's up? So so what was I gonna say? Yeah,
you'll be here soon. She's handling something, I guess. And
so how's how how's everything been? I mean, it's been

(04:10):
a little while since we've we've done a show, and
I figured, halloweens and two days why not?

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Now, you know, I can't complain. Life is lifing, that's
for sure.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Life is life, and that's a good way to put it.
Life is life. Yeah, my fantasy football teams suck. I'm
just I'm disgusted with myself. That's how bad it is.
I'm so disgusted, like I'm like, I've I've had it.
I'm like up to here, I'm like, I don't even
want to deal with it no more. That's how disgusted

(04:45):
I am. You know what I'm saying. So anyway, so
now we have we have some we have we have
an email here, but I'm not going to get into
it because I need TG to be here because it
was actually aimed at you and.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
M hmmm, yeah, why.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I have no idea, but it's it's a doozy. Well
you read it, Yeah, I read it. It's it's it's
it's it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I'm sure you have an idea.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Did I pick any commanders? Actually I have Jayde and
Daniels and Terry McLaurin. All right, yeah I did, Yeah,
I did McCall. And then last week Jayde Daniel was
hurt and McLaurin he scored a touchdown. But that that's
besides the point. I'm not going to get into that.
So anyway, anyway, so this is what we're gonna do.

(05:41):
I have six questions, right, and in these six questions,
they're broken down into four different categories. Okay, So now,
so it goes like this, I asked a question, and
the four categories are dating, marriage, long distance, and break

(06:05):
up healing. Okay, so the first question is like this,
how do you know? How do I know if my
partner is the one?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Okay, you make them no one?

Speaker 6 (06:23):
All right?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
So now if you are just dating, what are signs
that show you this relationship has long term potential?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Well, if the communication seems pretty easy, you know, it
doesn't seem like it's going to be difficult off the beat,
They're willing to listen, not just talk.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I also I also think, how about you know how
much time you spend together?

Speaker 4 (07:01):
And yeah, I mean that's definitely uh something.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think, not just time spend together, but what's actually
being done during that time?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
And I yeah, quality time and effort, you know, because
if there's no effort being made, it's like what's the point.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Right, right? I get it. Yeah, because if you if
you're looking at the long term, you definitely want to
you want to look at those factors. Now, marriage, how
do I know if we're still growing together and not
a part.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, again, like I say, every time we have a
show communication if your partner's being transparent and not just honest, right,
because there is a difference to the difference between transparency

(08:01):
and honesty. Is transparency is like telling somebody, honey, I'm
going out with the boys to the casino. Uh, but
such and such is gonna be there, and he's bringing
his girl, you know, so she's gonna be there, and
you know that's that's the transparency. Honesty is I'm going

(08:27):
to the casino with the boys, So you're being honest
about where you're going. But transparency is actually telling your
partner what is who and what is actually happening and
who's gonna be there. Right, So it's it's it's kind
of giving them all the information rather than just a
part of the information. Because you can be honest without

(08:51):
being transparent, but when you're transparent, it gives a whole
lot more trust, right, because you're actually giving details that
I guess technically you really don't have to, but you
want your partner to know. I have nothing to hide
from you, right.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So oh, really quick, I'm Amanda.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
You're welcome, Amanda. We haven't his staff hasn't even gotten
shirts yet.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, it should be spoiled so thank you very much.
I'm glad you like the shirt. Thanks for being being
thanks for being a fan of the show. You know,
we love you, Amanda Enjoy. So I mean, I mean,
let me say something about that, the transparency honesty thing, right.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Would it be considered not being honest if you don't
mention the fact that your boys bringing his.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
No, you're still being honest because you are going to
the casino or wherever with your boys. But you know
what I have to say, when you omit information, it
is still kind of lying because you know that that's
a detail that would actually make a difference, right.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Because that's actually saying that, well, she's going and we're
going with the fellas, but you know, maybe I don't
want you to go. That's why I'm not saying she's going.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
But again, but not letting, not letting your other half
know that there's going to be a female there, whether
she's yours or not, you know, can can be seen
as a little suspect, you know, because because then you're
asking yourself, did you not tell me because you didn't

(10:53):
want me to go, or did you not tell me
because you didn't want me to know that she was.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
There, right right, right right.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Intention is everything.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
And when you're really having a good relationship, good communication,
what's the reason not to inform her of who's going
to be present?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, that that makes that makes that makes a lot
of sense. That makes a lot of sense because because
what if what if you don't get along with this
chick or this chick is like you know, an ass
and you don't you don't you don't you know she
likes to bunchie all the time and ship. You know
what I'm saying, Like you don't know, you really don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
So yeah, but you know.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
For me, my question is if you're not taking me,
but somebody else is going to have air lady there,
what is actually happening?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Let's see, let's see. Maybe I'm going to spend more
money and you want me to.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, but that should have nothing to do with somebody
else's lady being there. If you have a good relationship,
you already know that about each other. Mm hmmm, Because
if you're gonna go spend money behind my back, that's
not a good relationship anyway, because you felt like you
needed to hide that from me, right, you know what,

(12:26):
I am right there with you with the whole transparency
and all of that. Yes, consistency, I'm telling you I've
been on some dates lately and inconsistency.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh, it's is the season.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Well I'm done, and you know what I'm done. I'm done.
I will be the old maid for the rest of
my life. Because people don't really want honesty, loyalty and love.
They want sex, lying, you know, and and they talk
about wanting peace. No, they just want somebody who's not

(13:08):
going to hold them accountable. That's that's what piece is.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
What what happened? You can share or I.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Mean I don't care, you know, because you guys know
I'm an open book man. I have nothing to hide. So,
you know, you meet on these these dating sites, things
start to go really really well, and then just out
of nowhere, they go downhill. So one dude, you know,

(13:42):
we have video chat and whatnot, and I'm telling you,
the conversation couldn't have been more perfect. It's like everything
was fitting. And then you know he's even like, you know,
I see that you're a feisty one. I kind of
like that, and I'm like, okay, He's like, you know
what you want? You know, you're confident in yourself. And

(14:05):
you know, when we talk about that whole feminine masculine
energy thing, I'm definitely somebody that once I know it's
safe for me to be feminine. Oh, I have no
problem you know, submitting to my other half, you know,
because I'm a godly woman, So I have no problem

(14:28):
submitting in a godly way. So anyway, the dudes talking
about how wonderful I am, how smart I am, you know,
because I'm a double whammy. I'm book smart and street smart.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Yeah, And then out of nowhere, he takes me to
the bathroom with him and proceeds, you know, to urinea.
And I'm just thinking to myself, what in the world,
Why I don't know him from Adam? Why is he

(15:05):
taking me in the bathroom? And why can I hear
him peeing?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Wait? Now, hold on before you continue. Did he go
into a stall or was it one of those?

Speaker 4 (15:15):
It was his house in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
He took you to the bathroom in his house. Yes,
so he guided you to his bathroom.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, we were on video chat.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Oh see. Now I was beginning to say to myself,
why the fuck is this guy taking her into his bathroom? Okay,
I get it now.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
He took me on the telephone, all right, the bathroom
with him, and you know, just sets me on a
counter while he's talking and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Hold on one second, one second, I'm sorry. Let me
bring in TG love your live girl.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
All right, lady G was on something. She's on something
right now. Okay.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
So I'm sitting on the counter, you know, or the
shelf whatever, and I don't say anything. I'm like, all right, well,
at least he's not showing me nothing. That's great, you know,
because then I just have to hang up, you know.
And he spends a whole weekend telling me what a
wonderful person I am and all that good stuff. But

(16:23):
then I guess when he realized that I could hear
and see everything he was doing, He's like, oh, I
am so sorry. I have got to be more respectful
than that. I'm like, okay, I could dig it. And
then talking maybe another twenty minutes, he goes back into

(16:46):
the bathroom takes me with him again and again, not
because it bothered me, but because of what he said.
I said, didn't you just tell me that you wanted
to be more respectful?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
You know?

Speaker 4 (17:02):
And that you you know that you didn't feel that
that was respectful or whatever. And then he just has
this deer in the headlights look on his face and
he's like, I'm sorry, And it was almost like automatic.
I don't even know what prompted me to do it,
but just as quickly as he said it, I just
looked at him and very nicely I said, He's like,

(17:26):
I'm sorry. I was like, no, you're not, because if
you were sorry, you wouldn't have done it. Homeboy either
got embarrassed. I don't know what, but he hung up
that phone and blocked me. What nothing, nothing, nothing, And
I'm like, that's funny because I gave him a whole

(17:47):
lot more than that, Like I was busting on him,
like I was really throwing stuff at him. But it's
when I like held him accountable for his own words
that he he yeah, yeah, I don't know. And then

(18:08):
he blocked me. I was like, that's all right, you
saved me from a lifetime.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Of whatever whatever exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I'm like, yeah, I'm not even upset, bro damn. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, but that's that is kind of rude. Though I
wouldn't I wouldn't take my phone to the bathroom to p.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, that's like we really really know each other. That's different.
But like if we're.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Each other second, like we're getting to know each other.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Like yeah, you know, like I was little bit, well,
I have a new microphone thing, so it's okay, it's
sor ry or it might be hitting my shirt and
that's what you're here, all right, now.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's it just sounds a little that's all right. Though
you sound you sound. We hear you clearly, it's just
that it sounds a little so off. That's all right. Yeah,
that's that's that's wild. Like would then and then he
blocked and.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
He blocks you like and he blocked me. I'm like, wow,
I was like, you talk mad junk dude.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, they're all good until you hold them accountable for
their own behavior. Wow. Like that's all right because I
don't want nobody who can't own their stuff anyway.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, all right. So now that the third part of
this is long distance, how can I tell that this
relationship can last despite the distance.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Emotional?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
So I got I got a bunch of questions and
under each question there's four categories, dating, marriage, long distance,
and break up healing. So the question was how do
I know if my partner is the one and we're
up to long distance, how can I tell if this
relationship can last despite the distance.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Well, again, that you're both willing to put in the
work emotional intelligence, so being able to hear and be heard,
you know, not being one sided. You know, both people
are gonna have to make some sacrifices and believe it
or not, self control.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Self controls are big ones, yep.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Because if you can't control yourself when we're not together,
I'm going hard time trust than you could do it
when we are right.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
You know what I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I was just gonna say, like, it really depends how
invested you are in the relationship and what the plans are. Like,
is the plan that you're together in the future or
are we just going to try this long distance? That
is a different scenario, I feel. But if you already

(21:13):
know someone is your person, then you're going to fight
to be with that person. So if there's a question
of may this person be the one only you can
answer that obviously, But it really depends how invested and
how much you love this person and are willing to

(21:36):
go Because long distance is horrible.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
It is it really is. It's tough, man. You definitely
have to be all in because even I mean with
the dating stuff, I go thirty miles if you're more
than an hour from me, because there are gonna be
days I'm going to need a hug or a kiss
or now just to see you because I've just had

(22:01):
a rough day. And so that's kind of hard when
when you live two three hours away.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, that is that is a little tough.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Listen, Sometimes forty five minutes just too far on some days,
you know.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
So So before before we continue with these questions, right,
I'm gonna I'm going to get into that email that
was the definitely dedicated, not dedicated, but it was. It
was aimed at the women on the show.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
That what makes you say that?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Because she says it, it.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Didn't make that clear. I'm sorry, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
So check this shit out.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
My name is Maggie. I love the show. You guys
are one of the best. I love everything about this show.
Nothing against the guys. I love you Coleon and mister Dobbs.
But the girl's rock here. Yes, here's my dilemma. I've
been with my husband now for ten years and as

(23:14):
far as I know he's never cheated. He has an
extremely high sex drive, and I don't. Probably sometimes sometimes
it becomes an issue. One day we had sex early
in the morning before work. It was great, then when
we got home we did it again. Now we go

(23:38):
to bed around midnight and he wants to do it again.
I was like, dude, we already she checked the shit out.
She said, dude, we already fucked twice today. His response
was and I told him, I'm exhausted. Do you believe

(23:58):
this motherfucker? Went on to masterbate right next to me.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Okay, all right, that's what he's gonna.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Have to do right next to me. He finishes, goes
to the bathroom, washes up, and comes back to bed.
I said, wow, really you really needed to do that.
This fucker said, it keeps me from cheating on you. Oh,
that all right, it keeps you cheating on you. I

(24:31):
got up and said, what the fuck does that mean?
He says good night, rolled over and went to sleep.
That was three days ago, and now we have yet
to discuss. To discuss it, but what the fuck? Now?
I'm beginning to wonder, as he cheated, I don't know
what to think now? How do I even approach him

(24:53):
about this? Help me. I need some advice and words
of wisdom. Love you guys, Maggie.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Oh well, hey, we go listen. He was pissy, didn't
get what he wanted, so he wanted to piss you off.
That's what that was. So that little big too, he
did exactly what he wanted to do. He digged it hurt.

(25:20):
And now you're feeling is secure. I mean, I'm not
saying it's right, but that's what has come out of this.
And then you're questioning things. I don't think you need
to question things. I think your husband does have a
high sex drive, and if you don't want to give
it to him the third time, you shouldn't have to.
And if he needs to jerk off to go to bed,

(25:43):
then let him. And I wouldn't be offended by that
because it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Because yeah, because clearly you don't want to or you can't.
And right, women are built so much differently than guys.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I mean, I mean, it depends. It depends. Women are different.
It also depends on the hormones and all that other stuff. Now,
her sex drive might not be high because she has
little testosterone with her hormones, so that's gonna play. It
also depends how old is she is she im paired menopause,
is she in menopause, because that's also going to change

(26:17):
how much you're gonna want. Are you on certain medications,
especially for depression, anxiety and things like that, those meds
also side effects tend to lower sex drive. So it's
hard because you want to please the person you're with

(26:38):
and you want to enjoy this with them, but it's
not your full either that you don't have the sex
drive that he has. Now. Seriously, though she gave it
to him twice, Like I was shocked by that one.
I was like, okay, girl, get it. But yeah, so
the third time, like I would have been in. But

(26:59):
that's for me. I'm very different. I have a very
high sex drive, so I think I would be with
him on it. But if you're not, Like, there needs
to be a level of respect there, and it's like, hey,
you can't if I'm not going to give it to
you a third time, but you need to jerk it
off whatever, then so be it. Maybe you can help

(27:21):
him jerk off, maybe you can touch him while he's
jerking off. It doesn't have to be like such a
negative thing, Like you already told us the problem. You're
not going to be able to fix it because you
can't change your sex drive. Like that's not it's going

(27:41):
to happen. So take it to that into account, I guess,
and try and figure it out. But I mean, this
is why I think too, it's important for people to
date because I feel like, even if you're married, you
should continue to go out on dates and do things
and have romantic times together because that can also change

(28:04):
someone's sex strive and the way they're feeling and things
like that, because women are very emotional creatures, like our
horny nest level really depends on that. Like you could
totally like be in your head having sex and not
really enjoy yourself because you're in your head about something
or whatever. So we you know, men need to understand that,

(28:29):
Like it's not so much that like, oh my dick
is harder now I'm going to go. You know, I
need to take care of this for us. It's not
necessarily like that, So that has to be taken into account.
Now she thinks that he's cheating, No, I don't think so.
I don't think he's given her a reason to just

(28:53):
it was a slight remark back to trigger her and
get her upset because he didn't get what he wanted.
He was having a tande get. Yeah, he was having
a tandrum and he decided, well, if I don't do that,
you know, like I could already see it in Deb's
voice coming out, so it's like, don't be mad about that. Also,

(29:15):
like women who get upset about that their man is
masturbating the shower, somebody was why, like that relieves stress
and if that's what you need to do, like, maybe
you should also do that in the shower. Get yourself
a waterproof toy and go at it while you're in
there so you can understand why it's enjoyable because it's

(29:36):
okay to come. That doesn't mean I think I think.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
A lot of a lot of women though, in that
are in marriages and relationships see that as as a
way of saying, well, I'm not good enough to fuck,
but you can go jerk off and around the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, but they shouldn't take that personally. But some someone
to do that shouldn't. Yes, but we're saying you should
not take that personally. That should not be something that
you're taking like I'm not good enough. No, like doing that.
You don't want to dance.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Something after you?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Maybe right now, right right? If it's constantly without you
and not on you, yeah, that's different.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
But if you if it's because I can't I'm not
willing or able to provide that. You know, I also
have to understand that if I can't provide that, that
he has to relieve himself somehow somewhere.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
And you know what, absolutely right, I'm afraid to experiment.
So as a marriage and family therapist. Uh, there's this book, uh,
David Snarch, and it talks about wall socket sex and
the thing is.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Let or or I'm.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Gona let her cook, I'm let her cook, go ahead,
and so the hot.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
The whole idea is about marriages and relationships. Right, So,
our significant other is the one person that we should
feel safe and be able to tell our fantasies to
experiment with because they are your intimate partner, they are
your person. And what is happening is we're afraid to

(31:28):
express to one another or wants, our needs, our fantasies
for fear that they may judge us. However, that's the
person that's supposed to be communicating with you, you know,
and you just don't know. Maybe they want to do
the same thing and are just worried that you might,
you know, reject them, because everybody is afraid of rejection.

(31:50):
But if you don't try, you don't know. People are
not mind readers. And again, you can have a wonderfully
healthy sexual relationship and for years just by communicating. And
so it talks about this concept of wall socket sex
where you know, it's so invigorating, so exhilarating.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
That.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Gosh, but that's not what you're doing, corleone. You know,
it's it's re reconnecting on a deeper level, not just
with your body, but with your wance, your need, your fantasies,
and with the one person that you should want and

(32:38):
want you back, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
So I agree. I think that a lot of this
comes from like what we saw marriages. Marriages were like, oh,
you saw your person, you have a family, there, there's
a partnership, he provides blah, right, And I feel like

(33:03):
a lot of people went into marriage for that purple
and it wasn't so much about that partner. That partner
should be your best friend. That's that's the whole thing.
Because you're doing this life together, so why wouldn't you
want your best friend there by your side and be

(33:23):
able to tell them what it is that you want.
And I will be honest, like I have encountered men
who cheat on their wives or girlfriends, and a lot
of the times they say it's because they can't do
that with their girlfriend and not even anything crazy. The
point is it's like that's weird, Like especially a guy

(33:44):
with a girlfriend. I'm like, that's so weird, Like why
why can't you tell your girl like this is what
you want?

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Oh, well, they can't tell me because they're not getting
it right.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
But they can't have it. It's so it's there's just
so much lack of communication and relationship. Well like that
getting to know you type sh like you know, like if.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Like a dude, a dude wanted to paint his lady's
toenails and massage her feet and make her feel pretty
and paint her her nails and take her out to
dinner and show her nails out and know, my man
did my nails. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's
nothing wrong with that ship.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
No, there isn't, no, but you know it works for
you guys. Works for you, guys, I want I want
to say that everybody else.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I'm not a fucking nail tech, but I'm pretty sure
I can get it in the fucking lines, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Like, I'm pretty sure that's a sweet, romantic gesture. It
would be different if you were painting her nails because
it got to horny and you wanted to stuck on
her toes and dr off or something. Now this becomes
a fetish, Okay. So there's a difference between doing nice
things for someone and having a fetish or cake. So
you know what I'm saying. So painting nails or foot massages,

(35:12):
hand rubs, backrubs, all that stuff, like, that's nice. We
need human touch and we need that reciprocated too. It's not.
It shouldn't just be one sided either, Like we both
need this. We need to touch sometimes, we need to
cuddle in bed, sometimes we need to kiss and hugs
like these interactions. That's the intimacy. That's the real good stuff,

(35:36):
Not the sexual intimacy, but the can I be held
by you and feel safe? Can I just look in
your eyes and just feel something like to be That's
huge to be able to do that.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
You know what for a lot of people, like people
who have struggled with sexual abuse and all those things,
I don't think guys real lies that sometimes that is
the thing that turns someone on just being looked at,
you know, like not even being touched, you know, because

(36:15):
when some people once you touch them, that's it, you know,
I love it. Yeah, they actually just turn off.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
But but that's knowing your partner too, And and if
you know them deeply, you would you would understand like
that part that thing that triggers. You would know your
partner's triggers and you would need to stay away from
those triggers until they can work on it or whatever.
But and that's the other thing, like supporting your partner,

(36:45):
Like if someone is dealing with it like that, they
really should be getting counselors and working on that as well.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Like h yeah, so so what if we talk about abuse, right?
What if what if it's the dude that was sexually.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Abused and that happened a lot?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, Like how do you.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Have men don't share? That's the same takes really done.
It takes a lot, I feel for men to share
that because of the stigma around that and the fact
that for years we've told men to just suck it
up and be quiet and man up, and it's happened

(37:34):
a lot and a lot of times it's a father
figure that does this to his child. And what I've
noticed is like you could kind of tell when a
person is triggered. They may be like I'm not home,
I'm not a homo, or something like that, you know
what I'm saying, Like there are like I've seen it.

(37:58):
I know a few people who have who's admitted to me,
and like I can tell there's also a lot of
anger there. But this is we're talking about. This is
why I'm saying it is so important to get counseling
for both. People need to talk about this. They need
to get this off their chests. They need to like,

(38:22):
you know, sometimes you just need a therapist to tell
you that you're right for feeling the way.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
You do and it's not your fault.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
And that it isn't your fault. Sometimes you really need
to hear that from someone who is removed. It can't
be like a family member or a game, right, because
then then it's real. You know, Like when I when
I was in therapy and I had my therapist say
to me, your mom was wrong for what she did

(38:54):
and whatever she said after that, that was all I
needed was to get that acknowledgment and be like, holy shit, yeah,
so I am right for feeling the way I do
or whatever, you know, like that helped me. So this

(39:15):
is why I think it's important for people to talk
to someone and share your stories and you know, get
feedback from people, because we can be so blind in
things too and not really see things for what they are.
So it's just good to have that biased opinion that
comes in and is able to listen and be like, well,

(39:39):
this is what I'm hearing you say. But that's really
all it is, right is they're feeding it back to you.
And then you're like then you could take that and
be like wait, no, that's not what I mean or whatever,
and you find your words and you find your way.
But that comes to work, you know. And that's the thing,
Like anyone who struggles, like with anything to be eating disorder, anxiety, depressons,

(40:07):
mental illnesses under the whole umbrella. If you're not getting
the care and support that you need, you're only going
to suffer more. Like it's not just going to go away.
This whole bullshit of put the past behind you. There's
a way to put the pass behind you, but it's
not to ignore it completely or pretend it didn't happen.

(40:30):
That doesn't work. You know, we hold on to a
lot of shit in our bodies, and I can tell
when people, people who have a lot of anger issues,
a lot of that is shit from the past. It's
from growing up. It's the way they were treated as children,
and they now are as adults angry at other people.

(40:55):
But they're taking their anger on you because you're there,
You're in front of them, and it's not right. But
that the whole thing. Hurt people, hurt people, and that's
why because they don't know where to place the anger.
Just place anger, right, that's what it is. And I
feel like we're seeing that more and more. Not to

(41:17):
get political, but this is why shit is getting revved
up the way it is because people are hurt. People
are angry, and so their first thing to do is
to yell and be angry and screen at other people
because they're not feeling heard.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
So my next question is this, though, people who have
been women men or women that have been sexually abused,
I see two things happen either they become resentful towards sex,

(41:56):
or they get hyper yeah, or they get like really.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Avoid Yeah. Think about it, like with anything, even as
a sexual assault victim, it could be the same exact thing.
So again that's really all. How things are eternalized, how
you know, depends on treatment support, right, So the messages you.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Receive from the people that are supposed to support you,
because you know, especially in the in the male population,
a lot of minorities. You know, the whole thing is
that no matter what happens to you, you're always supposed
to act like everything is okay, and you're supposed to
again suck it up, buttercup and keep it moving. And

(42:50):
then people tell you that you shouldn't feel a certain
way because maybe it's been years and years and years ago.
That's incorrect. People have every right to feel the way
that they feel, and based on their experiences is how
they determine what they will and will not accept in
their relationships. And you know what happens is, I'm going

(43:12):
to use men only because I'm a female. You know,
men start to say, well, you're punishing me for something
somebody else did to you. Well, no, I'm telling you
that something was done that I don't like. So I'm
not punishing you because I don't like it, you know.
So if I don't like something, I'm not gonna let

(43:34):
anybody do it. It doesn't matter who did it.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
And the reality, you're punishing yourself because you're not allowing
yourself moments, you're not allowing yourself intimacy or any of
those things because of the way you feel. And and
that's when I say, that's what you need to see
help because like, if you want a long lasting relationship

(43:59):
with somebody, even you know, you need to be not
only honest with them, but with yourself. Like there has
to be a level of self awareness here, and you understanding.
You know, we all bring problems to a relationship. You
need to recognize what you're bringing to the relationship. Your baggage, Right,

(44:22):
we all have baggage.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Everybody has it.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
But how what are you doing to unpack your baggage?
Because you can't leave your baggage in a bag, You
can't leave it in the suitcase, locked up and in
the corner of the room. No, you never have.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Effective, effective coping mechanisms and systems in place. You can
totally navigate in a healthy way and still have your baggage.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
And I don't think it's something that you can do
on your own. I really do think that you need
support and you do not need do not use chat
dutt please, for the love of god. Oh my gosh,
I can't believe I have to even say that. But
I want to read the comments because I missed.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, she's gone. She didn't pay her WiFi bill.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Oh boy, Well, I noticed that we have a lot
of ladies that comment, but you know, we don't really
have gentlemen that comment a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
What happened the wrong button? That by accident? Oh okay,
I'm gonna say I hit the wrong button, like I
went back, like out of the thing instead of whatever.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Here here's my next question though, in relation to this,
what makes a person become promiscuous after an incident like that?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
That's not a fair question to ask.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
I can't oh it is, still can't.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Say it's connected.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
He did? Do you hear me?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:20):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Fine, Yeah, because I can hear her, I don't understand
you back out and come back?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Great work to just the right way. I don't know
the right way. Oh, Like, how do I even get
out of here, right.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, because I heard.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
The thing about the promiscuity, it's not any one thing one,
it's the severity of what has happened. It is how
they've been taught to cope, you know, their own environments.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Ola, I hear you.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
She's bad, you know so yeah, so it it's all
dependent on the person, on their you know, defense mechanisms,
on what they've been shown, what they've been taught, what
they believe. That's what determines the you know, the the attachment,

(47:24):
the avoidance, the promiscuity, you know, like I can.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Numb it for them, so like, yeah, but I think too,
like it depends obviously what happened, right and how and
how long and all this other stuff that goes around it.
And then I think when a person doesn't trust people,

(48:00):
it's easy to do that than to really like be
vulnerable with a person. So you have to remember sometimes
the promiscuity is to avoid attachment connection, so it's more

(48:22):
of a like, oh this made her horny or no,
this is a hoping this mechanism.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
It's also tied to their self esteem, you know, because
if a woman feels that that's all she's good for
all she has to offer, then that's what she's offering.
And the funny thing is you can totally give your
body and that person not have your heart and vice person.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
So I mean, men do it all the time, but
but yes, like this it's a they and to actually
just like disconnect completely.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Mind from the heart from the body.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
So it's because actually that's actually like you know what
I mean, Like that's again we're hurting ourselves when we
do these things too. You just don't realize it at
the time because you think that's what your word. Like,
if you've convinced yourself that's your worst, then that's what
you're going to do. It's the same thing with people
in abusive relationships. If you convinced yourself that their words

(49:32):
are true and that you don't deserve better or more,
then you're gonna believe that and you're going to stick around.
Because that's what abuse does, you know, it convinces the
mind and the person that they're worth for us, that
they they don't you know, they're not the power.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
They have the right value depending on how early and
what the relationship was to the person, if you knew them,
you know, speaking on like the familial type of thing. Uh,
you know, parents to their kids. It's just when you
understand parents or caregivers as the people who are supposed

(50:14):
to love, protect you and be there for you unconditionally,
if they're the ones that are crossing these boundaries, you
then learn there are no boundaries. There's no there is
no boundary between family, there's you know, none of that.
And so you know later in life one of the
things that causes you to be promiscuous sometimes is that

(50:36):
you know, this one person in my life or these
two people in my life that were put here to
protect me were actually my violators. So then I'm not
safe with anyone anywhere. So you know, what's the point?

Speaker 6 (50:51):
You know?

Speaker 4 (50:52):
You know what that movie Pretty Woman, you know that
scene where you know they're trying to be intimate and
he wants to kiss her and she says no. It's
because so much can be done with a kiss, with
a hug, and people actually connect that way, and and
and I wish most guys would understand that, depending on

(51:17):
who you're dealing with, a kiss can be so much
more sexual sensual than the actual act of having sex.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
What, No, I think you look like the type that
likes to eat people's faces.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
But that's I'm great. But yeah, I think, you know,

(52:20):
obviously hitting it on the on the head. And I
also don't want people to start thinking that all the
strippers have been sexually abused some of them, like you know,
there are people too that just enjoyed itself. Like for myself,
like I own my sexuality because before I felt victims.

(52:46):
Now that I'm like a survivor, and that's how I
see it. Like for me, sexis and powering, so it's different,
you know, like, yes I am I'm a horny bitch,
but I also just like I know what I like

(53:07):
and don't like, and I'm very like open sexually and
stuff like that. But it took me trying to get
to this place where before I was having sex because
I could type thing and it was enjoyable and I

(53:29):
was not trying to connect with anybody, So it was
different whereas like now though well in the past, not
more recently, but like me sleeping around with people or whatever,
was more about me owning my sexuality and enjoying it

(53:52):
the way I wanted to on my terms.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
And I think my experience it's actually it's led me
actually down the road where I'm the opposite now, you know,
like because now in my life I so much so
know my value. I'm on a different path. My thing

(54:17):
is I get to say no. I get to say no.
I'm holding on to that for that one person, you know,
and don't get it messed up. I see her saying
honier in her forties than ever in her twenties, and
now she knows what she wants. And the thing is,
I know what I want too, and actually for the

(54:40):
person lucky enough to come into my life, because I
give so freely and with everything that I have, I've
realized that for me that is more valuable and more
precious to me. So now I choose not to give

(55:00):
it to anyone, you know, until the time I decide
is okay, which I do know. In the world that
we live in may mean that I will be alone longer,
and you know, because you know, in this day and age,
it's become more casual, more free, But for me it's

(55:23):
become something totally different. And the funny thing is, at
this time of my life, I'm actually okay with being
by myself. Yes, it's still lonely, and but I think
I have gone so long in my life feeling is though.
That's all I was good for, That's all anyone wanted

(55:44):
for me. That's all I had to offer anybody that.
Now I have finally put my foot down and say,
you know what, I could take it or leave it,
but I get to choose. And because I know what's
behind the door, I am not worried. Because you know,
when somebody does come along that's actually willing to wait

(56:07):
for that work for that, they are going to be
blown away. Yeah, because I'm one of those. It's like
when i'm yours, I'm yours entirely, and I'm all about
the wall socket, I'm all about the you know, tell
me what you want, and if it's in my power,
I can compete with any woman just as good. I

(56:30):
can watch the same things that you watch, and I
can play, and I can do all those things. But
I have now decided that that's not for everybody.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
So you're swinging from the chandelier.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Oh yes, I'll swing from that, and I've lost fifty
pounds so I could probably actually get up there now.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
So.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Congratulations.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
But it's about working again. It's about working on you
being self aware, knowing what you like and don't like
and being able to express that and feel powerful enough
to give or not give. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that, Christina. Yeah,
I can't really be casually either. I was married to

(57:18):
the same person for sixteen years and it's just not
the same, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
But yeah, sorry about about your husband. That is that sad.
And I don't think there should be an expectation though,
for people to think that, you know, if they're a
widow or something, that you know, you need to be
with somebody else. I mean, that's the decision everyone gets
to make for themselves, like themselves. Yeah, I mean maybe
right now that's not something you're need to give up,
and that's fine, you're still mourning and grieving. But in

(57:50):
the future, you know, I just always say to be open,
just be open to what life brings you opportunities, you know,
you just never know, even if it's friendships. But still,
you know, uh, don't close yourself off either, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
I think part of it for me is just the
fact that people have that expectation.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Right, and they're going to get that older. But we're older.
So it's like at this point, right, like we're grown,
So what.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
If we hear that so much. I hear that so much,
and I'm like, being grown to me just means you
should know better. We're not kids anymore to be you know, No,
we're not so sticking thing.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
We need to respect, but we need to respect what
the person wants, like I shouldn't push on you that, like, oh,
you're not going to give me any report, Like what
then I know for sure, like you, you're not in
this for the right resion. So I think it's a

(59:07):
good thing because you get to read out those people
and just be careful though, because I feel like there
are people though, too that will say what you want
to hear so that they can get what they want,
even if it's a long game, you know, and that's scary,

(59:28):
Like it sucks. I can't stand these Netflix freaking documentary
to much be.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Afraid to self satisfy because let me tell you, girls.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Oh my god, I'm ready to get better. Girl. I'll
give you recommendations of what you should be having in
that draw next seal bit.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Once the seal has been broken, you can't put it back.
So because you have already experienced what that feels like
and what that means, it makes it very difficult to
not at least so satisfy until you're emotionally prepared, you know,

(01:00:23):
to include another person with that, and actually not for nothing.
They say that you should always know your own body,
and that's basically that's how you know I find a
lump in my breast, That's how you know I figure
out because it's like when you know your own body,
you are better able and more equipped to let people

(01:00:45):
know when something is right or wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Right, So it's important to know your stroke count right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Oh, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
That that changes the daily also depends on the poor
you're watching, Like you know, it's all about the moon
that day.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Yes, I I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Walking around, but I'm just on my bad. I just
had to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
But I do think it's funny like this, Uh, the
portrayal of women master baby, like in movies and stuff
is always for like shows is like we're lighting all
these candles and ship and like you're like, who the
fuck has tied for that ship? Bro? I'm got by
pouring up on there. I've got favorites I got already.

(01:01:33):
I'm watching like there's no reason to play around. It's
I know what I'm coming to do. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, coming exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Exactly you're coming to come. That's it and that sometimes
not even kidding me though, but sometimes it helps me
go to sleep, like if my mind doesn't shut the
fuck up sometimes and I'm just like bro, like I
right now, I just want to go to bed. I'm tired.

(01:02:03):
This is some bullshit and I think too, like guys
already do that ship they know I do that in
the mood.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
I feel attacked.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
You should listen and say the mood is listen if
that's what you want, and you do that. Okay, yes,
smell in some nice sense, get in the the room.
I feel like some animals trying to attack me this
now yeah, like it all depends, but but yeah, yeah,

(01:02:41):
the little guy, I think he was trying to like
jump up here or something. They're crazy. I have a
target box and now they like use like brown paper
so like and they scrunch it up or whatever to
that's like you see.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Being attacked.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I knew when I felt it, well, this box my
cat will sleep in it for hours. And my friend
was here yesterday and he was just like, it's somewhere
all with your cat, Like she hasn't left that box
in like four hours so I was like, yeah, girt, Pappy,
they're like kids.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
You buy them all these toys, they don't want them.
You give them a simple box.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
And they want they want them, They want the fucking box.
It's ridiculous. So I told him keep that box. That's
their box. They like to sleep in. Its perfect, Thanks, buddy.
I don't know what the hell he's doing up here. Okay,
maybe he would. He's trying to get into the bathrooms.

(01:03:44):
He's saying, can you see him?

Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
Like, yeah, but excuse me, I'm trying to do a
show here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I don't know what to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Yeah, So sending them when she feels attacked.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Now, oh man, I'm sorry about that now, but I mean,
I get it, but I just think it's funny like
that they make like this whole production on the movies
and stuff like this is like a whole thing and
it's not that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Yeah, and then the guys want you to do all
this stuff. Do you realize it took four hours for
them to make that little five minute cup you So
there's no way that she's doing that one right after
the other every time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Yeah, So dude, don't expect the unexpected.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah, don't expect nobody to swing from fucking chandeliers and
wrecking balls.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Oh my god. I also here that it's actually kind
of normal for a lot of people to kind of
feel shame after they do that. And apparently it's like
a cultural society thing of like, because we kind of
grew up being told not to masturbate and stuff. So
when people do, they tend to like feel like, oh,

(01:05:09):
like they did something dirty, and it's like, no, you didn't.
All right, we'll give me the light the cute outfit.
I can't. I can't. That's it's way too much for me.
But that's adorable, I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
But you got to wear a cute outfit too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
I'm in my paint Jan's already, which is bo oh listen.
That's that's how you do, you though, that's part of
self care. So if that's what it is for some people,
it's taking a nice bath first. For you, it's in
the mooda all good. But then my question to you

(01:05:53):
is how long does it last?

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
That's a good question.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Banging it out you can be extra, that's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean what you got this whole you
put this whole production together and everything you got the outfit,
the candle, you touch yourself, Boom, You're done. It's like, damn,
I was like ten and a half minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
The funny thing for me is, you know, people, well,
I mean, Tam, I guess, but I don't have the
pleasure of she's too much. They can go find that.
You know what, you are quoting me, Christina, You are
quoting me. People tell me I'm too much. Go ahead,

(01:06:44):
go find you some less. You go right ahead. The
thing is because it is so difficult for me to
get to that point. I think I think men find
it a challenge to be the one to do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
That, like a pressure built up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Yeah, Like it's just like, oh, well I could do
that for you, and then they get upset when they don't,
and then and then when they do, it's like they
don't realize it was with my help. But at the
same token, because it is so rare for me, I'm
just letting you know, don't don't hang your hat on that,
because once it happens, I'm done. I'm done. If you

(01:07:33):
didn't go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Then I'm not looking heart attacked.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
It's like it's like, once I get to that point,
I'm done, don't even touch me. Anymore. I'm just I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
She's over. Don't look at me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
It's like, don't touch you want it to happen so
bad it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
So now just go dudes in the corner and stumb like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
My god, you know look crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
I actually had one guy say, are you serious, like
you're just leaving like that.

Speaker 8 (01:08:19):
I'm like, yep, oh man, yeah, oh yeah, no, yeah,
I never I've never feaked and work out them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
If I didn't come, you know, I'm gonna tell you.
Don't get all proud and be like, oh I got
no body, No, you did not make it come. I'm sorry.
It's all good though, I'm set. I'm happy. But but yes, but.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Then again, my goal nowadays is just to be tired,
tire me out, wear it out, but don't even try,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Oh my god, she's too ut. I don't know, but
we So. I used to be someone who needed literal
simulations to come and so I would always have to
get on top com, which is really annoying because that's
a lot of work. And I don't know what happened.

(01:09:15):
I don't know if it's the demographic of men I
started saying, and that changed things but now I come
like nothing so lucky. It's interesting, and I think it's
because I've allowed myself to be three in that in

(01:09:36):
the moment, and especially when you do have an emotional
connection with somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
I declared some more.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Babysck. Oh no, I've seen baby dicks, but you know
they come at all sizes, and men different sizes can
do many things the same, but either way, it's there.

(01:10:09):
I do think, like how the reason why I brought
it up is because what we're talking about, this emotional connection,
this vulnerability, that allowing yourself to be kind of like
free around that person. That's when I think it pops off.
Because if I'm feeling you and I'm trusting you and

(01:10:30):
we're doing this together, then we're having a good time
regardless you get right. So I feel like if you're
going in closing like unsure, that's not gonna you know,
meet these things good for you, right, you kind of

(01:10:50):
gotta let go for real and just enjoy the moment,
like be present in that moment, get out of your head,
don't fucking think about anything but what's going on. But
can you It's like you have to train yourself to
do this, Like I literally will just be like, focused
on your pussy. What is she saying? Because she is,

(01:11:11):
she's in charge right now, things are happening for her.
We're listening to her.

Speaker 6 (01:11:17):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
That's when you're freaking come out. It's that is when
you can be more adventurous because you're you're vulnerable, you're open.
But that's the thing is finding that person that makes
you feel that way. This doesn't just happen with just
anybody whatever, but when you're feeling it with somebody, it's

(01:11:38):
it's good. Good stuff happens.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
I'm just do it in a wall mm hm. So word,
oh ship.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Man, then you have pat to do it. So that's that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah, what do you have an animal just staring at you?
Like what?

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
I unfortunately had a dog get involved once with me
and my ex, my first ex. What yes, his dog.
She was crazy. She liked to hump his legs. She
was obsessed with him, and yeah, he was on proper
me and the dog came downstairs, made us fucking and

(01:12:26):
she got on him and started humping him. Oh and
obviously we had to stop and we were just like
what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Want to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
What is happening? You know? That just ruined a lot.
My dog is the biggest cock blocker. Oh yeah, or
they'll do that. They just will make it harder for
you to get things done.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
So you put them in another room or somewhere else.
Mommy needs her time, thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Kids, kids are blockers too, oh biggest all right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
It's like all of a sudden, they don't speak to
you until you got something you need to do. Yeah,
and it's like, mom.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
I feel like there's a radar something that goes off
that they know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
They're like, oh, mommy's quiet, busy, let me go with
that real quick. It's like, mommy, just try to have
I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
What the fuck happened?

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
You love it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Yeah? I do.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Clearly he didn't have that problem because he's got so
many daring kids.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
What the children quarrel?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
M hm, yeah I got I got a lot of them,
and grandchildren.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
It's crazy. Well you I like, not that I forget
that you have grandkids, but like when you say it,
like a reminder, oh my god, he has grand like
cooly ship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Yeah, so I did this this ancestry DNA.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Test things you painted to them? Oh no, you're fuck,
You're gonna be wanted for murder and like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
So I sent it. I sent it in. I'm just waiting.
I'm just waiting on the results. I should be getting
them back, like within the next two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Oh that's interesting. I wonder if you're going to find
out if you have any half siblings or something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the goal.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Yeah, I love them Puerto Ricans.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Yeah right, oh ship, but my.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Little child goes around here flipping her hair talking about
I feel pricking today.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, people are people are bringing up,
you know, because bad Bunny and the whole Super Bowl
thing and the Puerto Rican coming out with their sh
There's some funny shit out there, though. My favorite are
the ones that the chancelas, Yeah, I'm a what oh

(01:15:26):
a grandma, she's a grandma? A grandma? Sorry? Oh boy,
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Let's do one more thing before we go for the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
This is gonna be a little funny. Then have a
good time with it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
What would be on your dating profile if you had one?
What would do dating profile? Sound like?

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Mine would be very boring because it's on my profile.
God number one, my kids number two. Yeah, I'm just
I'm just a real person, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Okay, mine would be boring.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
But I like boring because it's you know, it's safe.

Speaker 6 (01:16:20):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Okay, all right, what about you tg be on your
dating profile?

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Oh my god, it was on my dating profile. It
was because I don't have one right now, but I'm
pretty honest put it out there, how old I am,
what I'm looking for. Specifically, I that I'm married, I

(01:16:52):
do put that in my profile, and then I have
an open marriage. And then I always get the question
like if he's going to be there point in him,
and I'm just like, no, let's see. You'd be surprised
like how much I put And I would have conversations
with people and they they'd be like, when you're married,

(01:17:14):
They're like, Or they'll see my Facebook profile and see
that I'm married, like, oh you're married, Like, uh, did
you read my profile? Because if you would have read
my profile, if you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Wouldn't read these stupid profile.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
That's what I'm saying, and that's why I would only
really talk to people who read my profiles, because it
was like, if I have to be explained as to
you again, then what was the point like you need
looked at my picture. Obviously, that's what we do. We
look at the picture. We'll see if we're like, okay,
am I into this? Could I be into this person?

(01:17:48):
And then read about them. I her fund would always
like pick on the profiles of the guys who would
say things seven extremely or like I like in the
profile where they could put like their favorite shows or
like see you know things I would watch that people
don't know or something. And one time there was a

(01:18:08):
guy who watched ninety eight Fiance and I was like,
oh my god, I'm so talking to him because I
love that show. So it's like, you know, like just
connecting with certain things. At least when I'm looking at
a profile, that's what I'm looking at. So I think
it's just be honest in your profile. And for me

(01:18:31):
it was bad and what I wanted at the time,
which is your friends with benefit and what that would
look like basically M and my cats. I always mention
the cats he gets to in the pic. There's always
a cat. Of course, he needs to know what they explains.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Oh so you're one that posts your kids?

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Yes, I post my child. Uh, She's okay with that,
She signed off on the waiver. Uh, because she thinks
she's beautiful, so she's like, please kill the world.

Speaker 9 (01:19:11):
And usually, you know, I got, oh, you're caught cute,
and I'm like, oh, hurry, you should see my other posters.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Yeah, y'all too much for me. Man, Black people, if
they have shirtless pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
To show you the band, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
But if you're showing it to everybody else, it won't
belong to me. I don't share very well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Okay, okay, should just like start commenting on profiles and
be like, maybe if you get rid of that shirt
let's picture, we'd be talking.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
If another person tells me how sexy and hot my
lips are, I'm gonna scream.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
But listen, girl, your let's are sexy and hot? What
you want?

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
I know? But I know. I get on the elevator today.
I mean I was flatter. I got on the elevator today. Uh.
And and this guy at the courthouse gets on the
elevator and before he gets off, he makes sure he
lets me know I think you look really good in
that dress. I was like, thank you, Hey, I mean,

(01:20:44):
I get it. I've been getting up at four am
for the last two years to go to the gym,
so I better look something.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Am Yeah what Jim opens at four am?

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
Five Planet Fitness.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Oh you're getting up at four.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
I was like, yes, you have like twenty four hours
actually is not many, but not many.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
It used to be in the COVID hit and they stopped.
Yeah yeah because if after work I'm not getting there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Let me tell you I missed twenty four hours CBS.
So for a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
There's one right here?

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
No, not out here, nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Oh you're out in the woods.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Yeah, so God for been something happens. It's like you
would need to get something from the pharmacy store. You
can't because they closed like eight o'clock. I'm like, who's
that helping?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Yeah? So what's what's everybody playing for Friday?

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
I'm hosting a game night for my group out here
in Central k A.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Oh what group is that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Well, thanks for asking. I have a h.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
What.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I started a plus sized group out here in Central
PA called Being Her Now Central Pa, And basically it's
just a group of fat women who are community. There's
something wrong with the words fat. I own that shit.
I am a fat woman and there's no shame in that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
No shame at all.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
The shame. If you're sinning, call yourself fat, then we
got problems. But but bad women are allowed to call
themselves back. So basically, like I've met a couple of
people so far, we went to Chili. I'm doing the

(01:22:51):
game night on Friday. Uh. Next month, I'm gonna do something,
probably for Thanksgiving. I don't know what yet, if I'm
going to like do something for us here or go
somewhere and do something. And in January, I'm doing a

(01:23:11):
what you call the fucking oh man, I'm blanking vision board.
There you go. I'm doing a vision board night on
like the first Sunday in January. And in February I
am hoping to host a plus size clothing swap and

(01:23:35):
do like a Gallantine theme possibly and have some vendors
there and stuff like that, but basically a coo swop
if you look in your areas to see or start
your own. Basically, if people buy tickets to go to this,
and the deal is they bring fifteen to twenty items
of clothing that they no longer want. Obviously we have

(01:23:57):
to be clean. It can't be like things would hold
and dirty and blah blah blah and it's just closed,
no intimate anything like that. And we do all sizes
to success hopefully, and we set up tables and a
police and eat tables of size, and then when all

(01:24:18):
the clothes are placed where they need to be, you
can scatternge and look and take what you want. So
it's literally a way to get a whole wardrobe sometimes
because people are getting rid of things that they don't want,
which may be very useful for you. And when I
went to the Philly Fat Coon, which is this weekend

(01:24:39):
and I can't I'm not going unfortunately, but they do
theirs on Sunday, and that's what it is. It's like
I would take a whole, like big ass shopping bag
of clothes, and I would come home with a big
ass shopping bag of clothes. I actually got like like

(01:25:00):
three influencers that were there the first year. I got
two dresses and this cute little candy set play. Yeah,
Like I was like shocked at some of the stuff
that I've gotten, and I still wear some of the
things that I've gotten. I have some dresses and they
almost bosses great. I love clothes, So it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
I think it's a group that's dope.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Yeah right now, and we have forty two members. I'm
hoping to make it, but I want bigger because it's
hard to on Facebook with algorithms and everything, Like people
might not see the post because I'm not like posting
shit every day, so i might have to change that
start posting shit every day. So I'm coming up on

(01:25:49):
people see it a little bit more because we do
have like these events and I'm hoping, you know, I
got like five people saying they're coming. I'm hoping it
will be a little bit more. But I'm okay with
five because it's more intimate that way, and then you
actually you have a better time when it's a small
group of people. So I'm okay with that. And but
I wasn't going to do anything for Halloween, and I

(01:26:14):
felt like I have a party to go to her
or anything like that, so I'm probably might not even
get dressed up. I just wear like Halloween stuff and
I'm going to see about like bringing some candy and
stuff with me so we can see some yummy stuff
while way there or something. But but yeah, I'm excited
about it. I'm hoping eventually with the group to do

(01:26:37):
the treats and things like that, bigger events and hopefully
it would becomes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Something nice, very very nice.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
H Yes, I have a meeting. I'm meeting with a
there's the owner here that has a yoga studio and
she sorry, she basically it's going to be with me.
We're going to talk about possibly doing some classes and
things for my groups and stuff like that. I did

(01:27:10):
sign up but wasn't able to go to they had
yoga with kittens and I missed it and I'm so
sad about it. But little pussy gags, Oh oh man,
I'm so sad about that one. But like it's cool
things like that. It's like, you know, there's this is
the thing. Like for the longest I said I was

(01:27:32):
going to do something, and I did it for out
of fear, fear wouldn't be successful, fear I wouldn't get
enough people, fear, blah blah blah. And then I was
like fuck it, I'm just doing it. I put myself
out there. I started on next door and then started
just just putting like would you be interested in a
group like this basically and on Facebook groups and things

(01:27:55):
like that, and I got a response. And once I did,
I made the group and made it happened, so you know,
right now it's going to be a slow thing. But
that's okay because but the point is I'm starting. So
it seems like if anyone out there is like talking

(01:28:16):
for years about something and you're just like, I'm sure,
just fucking do it. That's all I'm gonna say. It
was just like, just go for it, just try it.
The worst that could happen is a no, or it
doesn't work out. It feels that's okay, you could try
something else, but I think what I've learned with this
is just just do it, like you know, just take

(01:28:38):
the one little step. It's just one small step. Like
what I want is bigger, but I'm like, this is
the small step exactly. I had to start somewhere, so
it was like, I'll start with just this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Yeah, absolutely props T.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Maybe Waity just start one out on your chees that
I don't know either the no, but I think, you know,
there's something special that happens when women come together for
this sense of a similarity or or a common goal,

(01:29:22):
and it's special because like a sisterhood is formed and
connections are made, and I feel like we need that.
Like I was lacking that a lot out here, Like
see could tell you that I'm a very friendly person,
Like I like going out doing things with people and
seeing people and spending time with my friends and talking

(01:29:44):
to my friends, and like since I moved out here,
that hasn't been a thing because I don't have anybody
out here. So I was like one as an adult,
And we talked about this before. It's difficult making friends
when you're older, especially, and I think like the way

(01:30:04):
to do it is to join groups and organizations and things. Really,
like I'm also joining Coastmaster International, which is like literally
an international organization where people go for public speaking and
leadership stuff. So it's like I'm doing that, and the

(01:30:26):
next month, I'm graduating from a legacy Aspire program, a
leadership program that I did through my job. So like,
you know, I feel like I tend to think, like
tend to make things smaller than what they are, and
then when I say it out loud is when I

(01:30:47):
realize how big it actually is. Like just saying all
these things out loud right now is like holy shit.
Like I've actually been doing things. I'm trying to get
involved and trying to like make friendships, make connections, networks,
all that stuff to get to a place. So yees

(01:31:10):
to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Yeah, just like Nike, just do it, you know, just do.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
It, like even if you don't find anything, like don't
want to get right, we ain't got rights to any
of that. Yeah, mouth right, oh man, like we be.
We can't be giving them credit for nothing. Ship Well
now if they want to give a speaker, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
That at least not just free shipping though, I want
a real coupon.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Well, with that being said.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
We answer all the questions stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Well, it was I came up with this with this
little this little thing, but there was like a couple
of like six questions, but then I broke them down
to four categories. But we didn't have to do that
because the email that was the email that was sent
in was enough.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
Yeah. Yeah, that's just through this that we went down.
Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Yeah, but want to fucking show man. This is fucking great.
All right, So what that being said, m hmm, thank
you for everybody for coming out tonight participating. We appreciate
you guys, We appreciate the fans of the show. Love
all y'all, and thank you. Well, we got a heart

(01:32:48):
up here. Somebody sent us a hard christ had. Yeah,
thanks to everybody for coming through. That's Lady G. That's
T love and I'm big on the own. This is
this my HERD podcast. We appreciate you, guys, love you,
and we'll be back real soon. Halfy Halloween.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Oh yeah, yes, have a great Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Yeah, be safe out there. No, no going to hadden Field.
So I don't want to go to Haddenfield. That's down thereby,
that's down that way somewhere, that's over here.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
That's actually where you do want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
If you really want, if you want, the.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Doctors and lawyers.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Are oh man, go there and then you're probably full
size candy bars. That's the best. Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
With that being said, at some point, my good night everybody,
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The Burden

The Burden

The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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