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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ye say, hey, what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Everybody? This Big Cold on My Herd podcast going to
you live from you know how we do from where
we go live from you know how it is. They
bringing my co host Lady G. What's good, Lady G?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
What is up my people?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm awesome. I'm great.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's good. That's good to hear. It's always good to
hear what you're doing. Good away every day, all day,
all day. Yeah, So how was how was your week?
Tuesday to well, Tuesday to tuesdays.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, last week I had surgery, so I was unfortunately
not there with you all, but it's been good. Uh,
surgery in my hand is healing. Everything's going well. Life
is life in right now. But everything's good. I cannot complain.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's what's up. That is what's up. Oh yeah, yeah,
So hold on second here, all right, let's get that
going down there. So I want to talk about a
little bit about So last week we we talked a

(03:27):
little bit about like some mental health stuff and everything,
and how.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Are you going to talk about mental health stuff? And
I ain't there.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
That's that's why, that's why we didn't talk much about it.
Because our our our our mental health genius, our mental
health goddess wasn't in the building, you know how it is,
So if we talked a little bit about it, but
then we we switched over to some other things because

(03:58):
we know that's your expertise, you know, I mean, and
I wanted to we talked about so I want I
want your take on it. We talked a little bit
about how first responders need to be trained better when
it comes to dealing with people with metal health issues,

(04:19):
because because sometimes you get into a situation, you get
into a situation where they're they're not trained properly and
things just go sideways. So what's your take on that?
Let me bringing dubs real quick. Hold on, okay, dog,
yeah what man? Hold on?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Let's Rachel. Does the boss got you on the lock again?
You already know.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
She got she got the London bridges falling down?

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Oh yeah, crip walking to it?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh gosh. All right, So lady lady geez on the mic.
She's got something to say.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Hey, first off, at your hand.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Hello, it's it's actually doing a lot better than I
thought it would.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
It's sore.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah? Yeah, you know what, we can.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Hear you it's actually, yeah, it's doing a lot better
than I thought it would. It's sore, but I can
like move your fingers. You know, I got this bandage
on until Halloween. Uh, but it's it's doing good. It's
doing good. I cannot complain.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
All right, So we all know what.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
And I appreciate all the love that was.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Sent to me, so I no doubt. But like we
all know what what got you here? You know the
proper technique of bitch slapping. You failed, you know what,
you know, so like so like, you know what, let
this be a lesson to you. You know, you don't
open handling smack people. That shows a little bit of respect.
We got to back at it. It's the ultimate respect,

(06:09):
and that does more damage to their face unless to
your hand.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know what does Today today, I'm feeling good, I'm
gonna let you have that.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you know, like you know,
maybe you'll learn wax on wax off. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So so so lady you were saying.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
All right, so that is definitely definitely I'm on board
about that because and it's and you know what, it's
not even just first responders, it's all places all areas,
you know, the police, the emergency medical all places need

(06:55):
to have some kind of training, some type of mental
health training that even even if it's to recognize mental
health issues, it should be mandatory because nowadays, hey, t
nowadays it's pretty much everybody you know. Mental health is

(07:20):
really those unseen disabilities and all those things. And we're
no longer in that place in our lives where when
you think about alcoholism or addiction or mental health, we're
seeing now that it is not like it used to be,

(07:40):
where when you think of an alcoholic or an addict
or somebody with mental health issues, you think about the
worst case scenario. The people standing on the corner, you know,
just acting them up. People who are nodding off in
the middle of the street, you know, people who are
running up and down the streets, screaming and young. That's
not what it is, guys. So we need to be

(08:04):
able to train our first responders, our police, our court system,
even the paroles, the probations, the prisons. We need to
be able to train these people to recognize when someone
has a mental health struggle so that they can at
least get them to a safer place, a safer opportunity

(08:30):
to actually get the help that they need, because what
happens is when they're not trained at all and they
don't even they can't even spot it, people get hurt.
Whether it's yeah, whether it's the patient or the first responder,
it doesn't matter. People get hurt because someone has something

(08:50):
that they can't control, and all of a sudden, cops
are starting to pull out the guns, and you know,
it just turns into a bloodbath that is so unnecessary
and could have definitely been dealt with, taken care of,
and all of that if they had just been able
to recognize the signs. So that's that's my take on

(09:11):
all that. But they're taking these programs away actually, you
know a lot of them, a lot of them are
removing these programs from a lot of the mainstream places
because they don't want to deal with them. You know,
they're they're what do you call that, they're farming it
out to other like nonprofits and and nothing wrong because

(09:34):
the nonprofitists are the ones who really get into the
nitty gritty and the down in the dirty. However, when
you totally act like it doesn't exist, you you know,
that's where we're going to run into problems. You know,
even if you have one or two staff members that
are able to address the the a media issue, you know,

(09:57):
because it's a big it's a big deal, and people
it's it's it's unseen. It could be the people standing
right next to you. It could be one of us,
and people would never know because it's not something you
could look at somebody and say, oh, you know they're bipolar.
Oh they got schizophrenia. It doesn't work that way anymore.
You know. It's it's it's it's being more recognized, treated more,

(10:22):
you know, and people are actually living long and healthy
lives with the struggles of mental health. And we are
not are disable ability just because someone has addiction. You know,
some strong out addicts, some people, I mean they will

(10:43):
always be addicts, but some of them are in recovery.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
It's it's not the alcoholic on the corner. They can't
you know, straighten up their words. Even if they do sober.
They will always be an addict. However, that's not their identity.
And people with mental health, you are not bipolar. You
are not schizophrenic. You are someone who struggles with the issue.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Go ahead, the earth is bipolar. Why can't I be bipolar?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
You could be as bipolar as you want to be,
Doves you And you know what, just I think I
think Doves would be bipolar just despite somebody.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah I will. Yeah. Well that's that. That's a big
that's a big issue these days, like trying to get
these people trained too to handle those situations that are
that involve people with mental illness. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

(11:57):
h m hm. But is you know what I'm saying
the oven No.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I unfortunately had to start the show in my car
and now I have a ride to my destination.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
All right, all right, so you we're gonna hear you
tracking along your your walkway.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Maybe maybe I'll just sit here for the front of it.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
So so so yeah, man, So I got I got
a question that we got we got from a from
a fan of the show. I'm gonna read it out
and then we're gonna talk about it, all right. So
it says you are out with with your lady at

(12:46):
a fancy restaurant and have to walk two blocks to
get back to your hotel. Her feet are killing her
in her high heeled shoes, and she doesn't want to
walk back in them. What do you do about it?
So hold on before you say anything, Doves, I know
where this is going. Hold on, God, hold on. So women,

(13:12):
since you know we got to two women in here,
you got blocks to go. You're wearing high heels, you
know what I'm saying, and you can't walk anymore. Your
feet are killing you. You got a strong dude next
to you. Let's let's let let's go around the room
and we can talk about you know what it is

(13:34):
you think would happen or what do you what should
happen or whatever. Let's start with doves. Let's get this
out the way.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Man. Man, First off, you know what, look if she
packs niakers with her right, you're staying two blocks a
weight or like or like some some sort of blocks
or slippers or whatever. And she knew it first of
why the hell you're gonna wear shoes that you know what?
That's gonna hurt? You know what I'm saying. What I'm
saying like the world is not a freaking runaway, you

(14:02):
know what I mean, Like nobody cares about us but us.
You know what I'm saying, Like the fuck so you know,
like your feet hurting? Oh well, oh, but you know
what We'll take our time walking, you know, like you'll
be all right. I want to sit down. We sit down.
You know what I'm saying, massage your feet? Nah, not

(14:25):
in public? What I look like, you know, like the
end of the day, you know what I'm saying, Like, Hm,
she should have been a little you know, you know,
proactive and but like flats or like you know, or
like some type of like you know, like running shoes
like and she knew the shoes were gonna fit. You
know what I'm saying, be uncomfortable, yo. Doctor shows, bro,

(14:49):
doctor show. Yeah, you know what I mean, like doctor shows,
you know, like you'll be all right. And besides that,
don't expect me to carry you. I got a fucked
up back. I ain't carrying shit. What I'm saying, you
know what. We spend the night on the street.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Then hopefully she's she's standing next to someone who doesn't
have back issues.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Hey, it is what it is like, yo. You know,
I'll even pay the doe here carrier.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Really quick. I didn't see that we had comments in
the in the chat room referring to the mental health thing.
So this was the first one.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Hey, we'll touchdown.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
No, why would someone need to wear a symbol because
they have a disability. That's ridiculous. I don't, like, I
don't understand why it would be necessary for a group
of people to need ID where the rest of the

(15:56):
world wouldn't need a specific ID stay something. I mean,
if I'm deaf, then obviously they usually do have something
that says that they're deaf. If a person is blind,
I mean, or even if we're talking mental illnesses, like
we can't also assume that everyone who has a mental
illness is going to freak the fuck out or whatever.

(16:20):
But the point being before, I think what you guys
were saying with like police should not be handling crises,
mental health crises situations like there should definitely be and
there are in some towns. They're starting this program where
they're not having the police be the ones to respond

(16:42):
to specific things. But if they feel like it's a
mental health thing, then they have, like I guess they
would call them first responders or first crisis responders, who
would be the ones to go out and try to
diffuse or handle the situation. If it's an elevated situation,
then I guess the police should get involved. But I

(17:03):
think that if you have the right people who work
with people in this bubble. I guess you could say
or circle then they would know best how to handle
it and it wouldn't have to always escalate violence, if
that makes sense. So, like, I don't know, I feel

(17:27):
some type of way that I would need to have
some kind of id stating my mental illnesses to someone
Like I kind of feel like I don't feel like
that's something that I have to put out there all
the time unless a real crime is committed.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Germany TG should Does that mean that Dubs needs to
wear a badge that says I'm an asshole and other
people have to wear badges to say they're idiots.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
I mean, there would be so many idiot and asshole
badges out we wouldn't know what to do, first of all,
and then there would have to be multiple badges because
you could be more than one thing. You could be
an asshole and a idiot. So so it's like, no, Like,
I think that we have an issue and a lot

(18:17):
of stigmas surrounding mental illness, and people need to get educated,
and people need to and the right people need to
be out there fighting the fight and trying to show
police officers and other responders how they should handle these situations,
because there are people out there that teach. There are

(18:37):
public speakers that go out there and they show people
how to de escalate, you know what I'm saying, Like
there's a whole thing about it. But people have to
give a shit too and not treat everyone like they're
out to kill you.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Right, like or that there's something wrong with them as
a human being.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Right anybody ever? Anybody ever heard of eleanor Bumpers In
the eighties in New York. She was an old lady
in a project going through like a mental health crisis,
and the cops just like ran up in the house
and she's just like holding a knife, you know what
I'm saying, Like she was a kitchen holding I think
she was a kitchen holding knife and it blew her away,

(19:18):
you know, like like like like you know what, you know,
like before these cops are go on mental health, cause
they need to check their mental health themselves.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Right, Yeah, that should also be a requirement though, Like
I know that they forced, especially nowadays when there's traumatic
things that happen and an officer sees things that's very
you know, traumatic, or they shoot their gun it's mandatory
for them to do therapy sessions. But when your heart

(19:47):
is not in it and you don't see a problem
and you're being forced to do some are something Are
you really benefiting and getting something out of that? That's
becaues thing.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
And because of the stigma, they're never honest about right
what they're going through when those situations happen.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
It's like they feel that there are people who feel
the need that they have to say certain things right
and it's crazy because you're allowed to feel these things.
You're allowed to cry as a man if if something
really resonate hurts you in some kind of way. I

(20:29):
don't like I know, I watch a lot of true
crime shows, but I could never understand what it is
to walk into a room where there's a dead human
being and you see what has been done to that
person and how the fuck you can sleep at night
after seeing that? Because this wasn't a freaking horror movie.

(20:50):
This was real life and like a person did this
to another person. So it's like they need therapy the living.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Horror movie, you know what, like like like working in
the railroad or like let's say, you know, like any
any public transportation like especially with heavy rail, if you
hit somebody, they take you off immediately and like they
give you like like thirty of the sixty days rest
like pay rest. You know, like at first they're going

(21:23):
to investigate, you know, like sometimes and sometimes like you know,
like them investigating, they have to relive the situation, you know,
over and over and over just you know, because like
the let's the same New Jersey transfer instance, they do
not want to be held liable for suicide, you know,
same like the example coor Authority And I was working

(21:46):
there and Coleon can tell Corleon could vouch me. I
show him a lot of messed up videos people getting
hit by trains, right because I worked there, I've seen
it right, And after a while it caught up with me.
And the situation that caught up with me the most
was I was a Newport one day and know it
was raining, and the train that stopped mid tunnel, like

(22:09):
you heard the train stop mid tunnel and it moved
again there to stopped again and moved again and stopped again.
They kept on like going and kept on stopping. Now
that train is designed the new trains of the path
trains is designed to like if there's somebody under or
something big under it's going to stop automatically. But the
engineer was on his last run and the conductive was

(22:30):
on their last run, so that they were just trying
to get you know, get to the night. It was
on a Friday night, by the way, and I decided
to do over time. So I'm in Newport and then
out of battery, and I looked at the track and
I see like seventh day for the timber and boots,
and then like you know, I looked further down and
I'm seeing guts and I had to call that in

(22:51):
and then like you know, they shut down the whole
back and whatever, and like these guys like they just
hopped on the sack, you know, the clean up crew,
that's what I called them. They hopped on the track
and you know they had their little gloves on, you know,
the forensic suits on or whatever. They were just like
picking parts of the man up and just throwing him
in the bang right, and that that right there was

(23:15):
a straw that broke the camel's back with me because
you know, like I was like what seven eight years
in over there, and I've seen people like you know,
get fried on the third rail literally like I could
tell you what human flesh smells like, been kneeling without
a double you know what I'm saying. It smells like
cheat out on without season. That's what human flesh smells like.

(23:36):
Frid on the third rail, right, yeah, but yeah, yeah,
you know what. The smell in stood on my nose
like a week. You know, these were the conditions I
was working on it. And it got to the point
where like when someone, you know what I'm saying, died
on the train, I would start laughing, you know what

(23:58):
I'm saying, like like yo, you know what like and
people start looking at me like yoll like yo, it's
not even funny. I'm like, I'm like, you know, like
but that was my you know what, that was my
defense mechanism because I was tired of it, you know,
so I just started laughing, like you know, and I
started like really looking at life like it was a

(24:18):
joke with himself, you know, like seeing that, you know,
seeing that kid, like what was left the room on
the track. And what makes it worse is like if
you ever rode the Patch train and you're going to
Jones Square, right, there's like a little turn like you know,
like like coming from the Yorks. There's like a little turn.
There's two tunnels, one going to hold Boken, one going

(24:41):
to Jhones Square and it's a little sharp turn. It
was raining that day, so like the story was like
he was going he was going in between the train
to go try to sit down, and he slipped when
he made that turn. He fell and trying tore him
up from from that part of the tunnel all the
way the Jones Square like you know, like they was

(25:03):
like they found body parts of him from the Jhone
Square all like like we're talking like two train stations.
That's and that's like three miles three four miles worth
the track. So mhm that you know what I'm saying
Like that right there, like you know, like it was
like the straw that broke the camel's back, you know,

(25:24):
nail the cough. And then like I really started looking
at like the world like there was like a like
one big joke, like you know what I'm saying, like
life was even worth it, you know mm hmm. So
like so like so like yo, you know what so
that what TG was saying that you know, like to
cry and let it out, like I feel that because
you know what, like you hold it in, are you
gonna do is poison yourself? You know, and then like

(25:47):
there's no outlet and unless you know it, you know,
you're gonna start having thoughts, you know, like you're gonna
start having like you know, like you know like that
you know what, man like I might as well just
go to m you know, so so like you know,
it's you know, like and I mind you I just
work for it doing it. I've seen this trauma stuff,

(26:09):
so I can just imagine, you know, like these cops
like like walking into a shooting and whatever, see a
baby on the ground with a bullet hole, you know,
and working on the child, you know, or like you
know when they have to you know what I'm saying,
I'm like, look, I really look, I don't like cops,
pavot I'll let them be. Know however, however, you know what,

(26:31):
I'll talk to you how you talk to me, you know,
but you know, like if but like you know, like
respectfully and all that stuff. You know, mh. I'll talk
to you like how you talk to me PERVOTD and
what these guys you know what I'm saying, like they
deal with you know, like like like I gotta give

(26:51):
them credit, you know, like they deal with a lot
of bullshit now one that they go home and beat
their wives, you know, like I ain't saying is right,
you know, but like they just dealing with you know,
like like like rest like in a big city, you know,
like they're always on edge because you know what it's like,

(27:12):
you know, but like they're wearing a badge whatever. And
then like you know, there's somebody out here trying to
like you know, pop them. And they know that, you know,
anything could be the last day in the job. They
know that, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
So it's like.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
And then like you know, like Winnison, like you know,
homicide scenes or whatever or like you know like stabbings, shootings,
you know, things that happened to kids, you know, like
suicides or whatever. Yea, at some point, you know what
I'm saying, they're gonna break you know, and and and
you know what and like the suicide the suicide rate

(27:49):
for that, you know what I'm saying, just for being
the police officers, Like it's pretty much up there. Like
it's like you know, like yeah, it's like it's like
Souliers coming back. Yeah, as I so just come like
like when the first Way episode just came back from
Kabul and and I right, you know, like you know
what I'm saying, Like they was just offen themselves like

(28:11):
like you know, like yeah, man, Like.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
So like I see the comment, and it's like if
you're having a pan attack or anxiety and you can't speak,
then a person, like a professional would know that that
someone is having anxiety, Like what situation are you in?
I'm trying to understand why someone like if I'm having

(28:36):
anxiety or a panic attack and I can't talk, like
and if I'm in distress, then I'm dialing nine one
one or trying to get someone's attention because when you're
having a panic attack, you think you're having a heart attack,
so the first thing people do is go to a
hospital to make sure that's not the case. So I

(28:58):
don't understand still don't understand this idea of meaning some
kind of badge for certain illnesses or whatever, like.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
You know what I used to get panic attacks on
my job, right, And then like you know, I started
to realizing I'm like, yo, you know what it's all about,
Like like I'll start talking to myself to calm myself down, right,
like it's all about breath control, you know what I'm saying,
Like like control your breathing and whatever. Control your breathing
and drink cold water. Control your breathing, you know, like
like you know, like you have to like really like
you know, talk to yourself, you know, like like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

(29:33):
not breathe easy. Really these these really you know, like
you have to keep.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's not it's not. It's not always that easy for
some people. Don't.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
No, no, no, I know, but like but like yo,
you know what like like you know, working at port authorities,
Like I used to get it bad, like like yo,
and you literally used to feel like my heart, Yeah,
I used to get panic attacks like heavy over there.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
The best thing to do for panic attacks or anxiety
is actually, look, if you're in the middle of sobbing,
it's finding five things around you that you can actually
see and and I'm seeing that object and recognizing that

(30:17):
object because it's it's putting you in your actual space again,
like it's reminding you you're here, You're okay, there's you know,
you're not freaking.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Out like it's and it's a distress mental fuck.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
It's yeah, focus because like, that's what anxiety is, is
a complete mental fuck that just messes with you in
your fears and pokes at it, and the unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Thing is.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's also sad that people who don't actually struggle with
the anxiety, the depression, you know, these other things, they're
the ones that have the most to say. But unfortunately,
if you've never experienced it, you have no idea what

(31:14):
that's like. You know, like feeling like you're having a
heart attack when it's panic, Feeling like you want to
die even though you really don't want to die and
you don't know what else to do. Yeah, feeling like yeah,

(31:34):
hearing voices that nobody else hears.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
But this is why you have to like see, I
keep reading and she was saying something and just messed
me up. Corleon. You have to time these things better, okay,
because I like I can't. I have adh You just
ruined everything in my mind right now, work and like

(32:04):
we're going on another subject. If we want to go
back on that, that's fine. So what were you saying again?
Because I just like wanted to add a little thing
and it wasn't anything special, but crap, I'm dare you
color I feel you set me up bro right now?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh eating the square running across the screen.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
I can't all right, so I know what it was. Sorry.
This is why it's important for people to share their
stories and experiences, because the only way that other people
can recognize things or understand things is if they actually
talk to people. And this is about anything things that
people don't understand, whether it's not understanding how your gender

(32:54):
is fluid, to not understanding specific mental illnesses, to not
understanding why you know you would stay in a relationship
when some guy keeps fucking you up, to understanding what
like all these things, there are stories behind them, there's
reasons behind shit, and people need to understand this shit.
You can't just be one sided about life and only

(33:17):
know about you. There are other people in this world
and we need to coexist.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, And it's easy to pass judgment on people when
you don't have any clue what they're going through exactly.
And half the people making their little comment comments wouldn't
be able to survive a panic attack or a depression
episode or you know, like heaven forbid, kind of like

(33:44):
those pregnancy belly things they got going on now with
the guys, Yeah, men think that having a baby is
so easy, how about you push a wootermelon out something
the size of a grapefruit, and when they put those
little buzz machines on them, they see just how bad
it is, and just how bad even having a period
as a woman is. Yes, you know, and and unfortunately

(34:08):
as manly, as manly as you men are, you couldn't
handle the stuff that we as women have to go through.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's interesting to me. It's interesting to me the tolerance,
the tolerance level that a woman's body has of pain
versus a man's. You would think it would be the reverse, right,
because men are so to be so strong, and I'm
not saying that they're not stronger in stature possibly or muscular,

(34:37):
but women can be that way too.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Uh But yeah, get top down a tree to TJ.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
I believe you. I believe you.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I could build something.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
On I cannot. I will watch you, and I'll freaking
hand you the axe if you want.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
That's what Jo got for eating the apple.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Eating the apple.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, but yes, we tolerate.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
We can tolerate a pain down there that men like
think like worse than your worst ship ever, worse than
the worst constipation, you ever felt the worst gas, you've
ever felt a.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Kidney stone, whatever, all that.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
So still you know, like like we think. I think
like the closest a man would ever get is pasting
the stone. And believe me, problem.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Now I'm thinking like maybe just a wide amputation of
some some moments because adrenaline kicks in just like it
does for a woman to allow it to happen. So
there's probably the same ship. There's like men pain, because.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Today at work, I was talking to someone about and
this is like a manly like officer dude, right, he
I was talking about, you know, I just had hand
surgery and I didn't have a general anesthesia. I had
a local anesthesia, okay, And and they're like, well, why

(36:23):
didn't you just let them put you under? I said,
you know why, because I don't have anybody in my
life to pick me up and drop me off. Because
they pumped me full of medication. So I had to
do the local so that I could drive myself to
and from right And so I was explaining to him.
He's like, okay, so if you did that, how did
it feel? I said, okay, so without the pain, I said,

(36:46):
I was scared. I said, I'm actually laying there with
a sheet on my face so that I don't see
what they're doing. But I can actually feel this doctor
sticking her fingers inside of my arm, and I can
feel them pulling and pushing, and I can hear the
snapping and the cutting, and and I was like, in

(37:07):
the inside, I'm freaking out. You want to talk about
panic attacks? I was like, why did I do this?

Speaker 5 (37:12):
And then and then you know what he did?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I did right exactly it needed to be done. And
then he then he follows up with me and compared
it to him getting a victor. I'm like, I said, Bro,
we're not the same.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
No, you're not for me, No, thank you, Nope, I'm
glad I was out.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
That's what they call it, herpees.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
You and you are just.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
So real, so real. Quick. Back to that question about
the high.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Hills, I never answered.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I never got my.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Chance ahead sell what you guys say.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
First of all, as a woman that okay, So I'm older,
so I don't love the heels as much as I
used to, but I do enjoy wearing my tacos. Okay,
but I am also you know what, woke. Okay, I'm also,
but I'm also pretty smart. I don't go anywhere without

(38:24):
my is of ton.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Or slippers yoka. So like Sammy davidsr challenge.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
I have feet is shoes. My ass is not putting
heels on. There's no reason why I would ever wear heels.
Go as yourself. And if I'm with somebody.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
I'm latina. I think we come out the no.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
This is my response. You want to wear shoes, tell
your shoes and hurt your feet, ladies, that's on you.
But I have problems because I used to do that
at my young age, and now that I'm no longer young,
my feet are in pain all the time. So like
my feet need to be comfortable. And if I'm with
someone and my house is two blocks away or my

(39:09):
car is two blocks away, you best believe he's going
to get that fucking car and bringing it over to
the two blocks where I am so I can get
in said car and not me to walk those two blocks.
That's what needs and the.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Sentence listen, listen, you know what, and you get that's
right where you're at. You know what I'm saying. I
see you at the hotel. You make it, You make it.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Guess what all my loves would pick my ass up.
I'd be like, hey, go get my car, and they
would like that.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
First off, she knows the real quick. Yo, you know what.
First off, you know what I'm saying. She would nobody.
You know what I'm saying. Okay, because because you know what,
the then she throws on the shoes and I'm like, Yo,
bring your slippers with you. I'm trying to hear ship.

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I don't want to hear.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
You cared enough, but you cared enough to think ahead
and tell her to bring her.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Exactly you know what I'm saying. You want to.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Talking about to walk her behind here and.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
There you walk?

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, you know what. I love you, But I am
moving my car and you know what I'm saying. And
then I have to spend the block like eight times
just to find parking.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
You know, I you and you see if.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
My house is two blocks away, okay. Not everyone in
the world lives in the homeboken. Okay, there are places
where you park, like in front of your home. Okay.
So I met like, if we're two blocks away from
the car and we were out doing something and we're
going home type situation. If we're two blocks away from

(40:58):
my home. I need to move because there's no reason
why I should be parking on the streets. Black is
different out here in pa.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Okay this of course you.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Know here, No, but I want to go.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I want to go back for a second.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
TG.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I can bet you dubs. His girl was wearing, was
wearing those tacos when they made their little baby girl.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Oh yeah, sure, and her feet were hurting and she
was like, oh bo, why don't you just like let
me right up on your back. And he was like,
oh my baby, And he did that real quick because
that day he had the strength because that boy pulled
it in all the way. Yeah, we know, we know
your backgrounds on certain occasions, we know.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Yeah, of course I'm saying when it's not I mean,
you're taking painful is going to hurt, you know, Like
but look, you know what that goes without saying, right
like at the end of the day, like you know what, Yeah,
I reminded, like, yo, you know everywhere in those man,
you better be wearing you know what I'm saying, carr
some comfortable you know what I'm saying, Carry something.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Carry something comfortable, you know, because.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Because yeah, you know what I'm saying, because I don't
want to hear that ship. You know what I'm saying,
because then you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna
be like yop, I told you, I told you Wow. Wow.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
That is so not loved.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Is it wrong to take an uber two blocks away
or asking for afect?

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Oh yeah, waste of money. That's just a waste of money.
Take uber two blocks away?

Speaker 5 (42:36):
What if they're like New York City blocks though those.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Are really long blocks, Yes they are.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
That requires walking downstairs, bro, like you like like you
don't know, mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Some of us have sepro sometimes sometimes you know. Sometimes
you know what I'm saying. To know what love is,
you gotta suffer, meaning I don't.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
I do not believe that the only suffering that should
happen in relationship is that I'm missing you. That's it, amen, TG.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Yeah, car and pick you know again. But that's not
for us. I got good aim, but I'll be hitting.
I won't be missing trust me, Lord, I mean anybody
you know what I'm saying. It's joking around it like,
no anybody needs to can holler at me. I can't
miss that's because your game is weak. I can't pull

(43:42):
out of a driveway you.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Can't and all the time you spend in your car, damn,
I know right right.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
You know, it is what it is? So so like
what was? What if it was raining? Would get no?
So we're two blocks listen, man, we're two blocks away?
Why why why am I going to run two blocks away? Right?

(44:16):
Let's to come back outside, you know what I'm saying.
Then to drive back and you know what and where
I'm at, you know, like parking is.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Coughing? What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (44:28):
She'll be all right, strigger water all right? You know,
like I don't. I don't understand why she ain't sleeping,
you know, like, oh well, but what I learned in
the Casey Anthony School for Parenting is that a little
bit of chloroform will take care of that little Yeah,

(44:53):
just a tad.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
He knows he's talking out his butt.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Of course I am sire. She can stay. She could
do whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yeah, you let that girl, that girl she got you wrapped.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Them around her little thinking she doesn't you know what,
she's my travel part. That's my buddy. Wherever I go,
she goes.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, that's what it is, all right, So and we
will be moving on. So what is one activity you
initially you initially approached with that you had hesitation on
but eventually ended up doing anyway?

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Living? Say that again?

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Living? Really all right?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
So the quest the question is what's one activity you
initiate that you were initially approached with hesitation but wounded
up enjoying?

Speaker 4 (45:54):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Okay, I can't say a lot of things carry key.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
And I'm pretty you know, and I'm pretty sure ship.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Puking, picking, I can actually saying, bitch, bring it go
in a fat com by myself two years in a row. Uh,
a lot of things. Think about it, guys, Like tell
me there isn't activities in your life that you've done
that you didn't have hesitation at first and you did

(46:29):
it and it felt good or you were glad that
you did and that you didn't miss out on the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yo, you know what, man like in all honesty right now,
this is the real meat that's gonna say something. I'm
so like you know what I'm saying, Like as far
as like you know, like the right yeah, the real
me see what I'm saying, like perked up like like
like like you know, like we're gonna take the mask
off real quick. Right, I'm so like, you know what
I'm saying, Like nowadays, I'm so like, you know, like

(46:58):
good with life, you know what I'm saying, Like like
like every day it's just like you know, like an
opportunity for something, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
That that's what love did to your life stuff.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
Mm hmmm yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, but but
but other but other than that, but other than.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
That, I mean, you know, I can't recall like you know,
like like an activity or whatever, you know, because like
not not do way too much, way too much, you know,

(47:41):
like because like yo, most of my most of my
activities involved drugs.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Well, let's talk about them things that you can't do.
Will you do karaoke?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
I used to freestyle, you know what I'm saying, Like
I used.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
To figure freestyling singing. When I'm talking about the rap game,
you're not getting up there and doing rap songs. That's
cheating to Karaoke's about saying even if you can't, you're
supposed to go out there.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
And say, you know, there's other things.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Do you know how to roller skate?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah, I could see him doing that.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, with with with that back of his he's gonna
roller skate.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Oh yeah, I mean that's definitely an activity of hesitation,
because he's like, if you fall back, I'm dead. But
I was thinking more with his you know, the little one.
Eventually he's gonna want to be doing things and activities
for her.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Daddy, you know what, like like you know, honestly, we
want pumpkin pickingness past.

Speaker 8 (48:31):
Weekend, you know, like and you had hesitations, not just
wanted to get out the house, you know, Like.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
I'm glad you with that, because pumpkin picking is fun.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
You know, No, you know what, and getting you know what,
getting purposely lost what's fun too?

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Oh no, I can Did you do a corn maze?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Was that corn maze?

Speaker 4 (48:58):
No?

Speaker 5 (48:59):
No, not.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Like when I said getting purposely lost? You know what
I'm saying, Like we ended up a Bear Mountain?

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Oh even when you were driving?

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Yeah, like yeah, and no, you know what I'm saying,
like I justly did it without the GPS, like like
you know, like we went from like you know, like
Hillsdale ended up in a Spring Valley. From Spring Valley,
we ended up Bears Mountain. From Bears Mountain, we ended
up with Woodbury.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Mm hmmmm. You wind up all over the up c
New York.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yeah, it was a beautiful day. You know. First off,
it was beautiful, right, you know, you know what, and
then like you know, like like like what's you call it?
Non W non W has trees like you know what
I'm saying. It's like riding in a canopy, you know
what I'm saying, trees like and like you know what,
and the leaves are like different colors. So it's like, yeah,

(49:57):
it was a good day to get lost. He is
beautiful right now, you know, like, of course.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
It is this this this question right here is gonna
have to go around the room because this is a
very interesting question.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Yeah, right at left, right, right left, All.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Right, tell the audience about a time when you hurt
someone so deeply on in a personal relationship. Tell us
how it happened and how it was resolved. Mm hmmm,
We're gonna start with Dubbs.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Yeah, I gotta go down.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Right. She's great.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Hey, look, you know what, that's there's way too many
people for that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Like, well, just give us one situation that you heard
someone on a you know.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yeah, but yo, you know what when when I heard
you know what, like like like back then like, you
know what I'm saying that I'm saying back then when
I heard somebody it was it was done intentionally, right,
you know what I'm saying. So it was like, and
I did it a lot, and I don't know, you
know what you want? I have one.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
I have one. Let him think infester while I give
you a simple one. Because it literally was something I
was talking with someone about today. So I had like
a best friend in high school and we were like
inseparable my senior year, and then she decided that she

(51:42):
was going to get together with this asshole even though
we all told her not to, and he wound up
knocking her up and she had this baby, uh, and
we found out together actually that he was cheating on
her uh and was having another baby with some and
else when she was like two or whatever. So cut

(52:04):
to I want to say twelve years maybe later or
later actually, so she was probably like twelve or thirteen,
I think, and I ran into the deadbeat dad while
I wasn't hoboken drinking, so I was drunk and I

(52:28):
saw this person who I didn't like, and she got
into like a whole conversation and I went and told
her about it. And she got so mad at me,
like I did something wrong because I dared to tell her,
like what if your daughter does want to see her

(52:51):
dad or a relationship with him, Like would that really
be a bad thing or whatever? Like I was just
thinking from a perspective of a daughter who has a
who she didn't really get to see and wanted to
have in her life. But at that point, my friend
had decided that like he has no rights to her.

(53:12):
Her last name was changed and everything for a reason.
So she kind of took that as like I went
against her somehow, and then she didn't trust me. So
something that I felt was good intent or I had
good intent to it and wasn't like anything, Like I

(53:33):
never promised anything, never said I was going to set
up anything for him. I never led him to believe
that I would do anything but talk and uh yeah,
because you know, when you're drunk, everything sounds reasonable. Uh
So yeah, And the relationship changed that after that, Honestly,

(53:59):
I don't and ever kind of really went back to
what it was at one point, which is sad, But
I can understand now a little bit more of like
where she was coming from, how she could have seen that.
But at that time, I also felt like, if I'm
your best friend, I'm never gonna hurt you intentionally, Like

(54:19):
that's not how my unconditional loves works towards my friends.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
So okay, that's a good one. Lady, g what's up?

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Are we talking about intentionally hurting somebody or unintentionally not it.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Just hurts someone deeply?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Because I can't honestly say that, I well, first of all,
I don't think I've ever purposefully hurt anyone deeply. But
the only thing I can think about that at least
that I'm aware of, because sometimes when people get hurt deeply,

(55:06):
they don't really say anything to you, excuse me. The
only thing I can really think of is before I
got divorced, I, after fourteen years of marriage, approached my
ex husband and told him, you know that we have

(55:28):
a problem. We have an issue, and I think it
would be a good idea for us to do, you know,
a trial separation. And because he actually wasn't living in
the same state with me, he was living in another
state for work. But I started to realize that the

(55:53):
marriage wasn't what I guess had in my head that
it was. Until he was no longer theirs. So I
kind of approached him and said, you know, maybe we
should try a trial separation and see, you know, how
this works out. And for the first time in our
whole entire marriage, which was a total of sixteen years.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
I saw the man cry.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
And we lost parents, we lost siblings. Like in our
sixteen years of marriage, people died, people that we loved,
and I never once saw the man shed a tear.
But when I say, you know, we should have a
trial separation, we should. You know, he wasn't even trying
to hear anything else after that, you know, but he cried.

(56:42):
But he cried, and every you know, for those who
know me as a person, every fiber of my being
wanted to take it back. But at the same token,
I was the one hurting, which is why I even
mentioned it. So I had to stay strong and I
did you know, I didn't take it back. Uh. But

(57:05):
the way that turned out was he ended up walking
away like another week later and married my daughter's godmother.
So uh, I guess that that's that.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
I'm sorry, it's still crazy to hear that, Like every
time when you mentioned I'm still like, come on.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Bro, I know, I know, but hey, they're going five
years strong.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Yay, wait till they get seven years. That's what what
is it? The seven year itch?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
The seven year itch, and that and that, and that
is real because I have to admit when we got
to seventh I was itching. I was like, I don't.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
Know, I got over it, but.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
I got over it still. So that's the only thing
or the only time I could ever think that I've
hurt someone deeply. But then again, I really don't know
other than the fact that he cried that day, But
that could have been for any reason. That could have
been maybe he got slapped in the balls. I don't know,
but then he didn't really have any So.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
That's that. That's that that special backhand of yours. She
cocked it way back. She was like, lit'sten, my little.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
Like with the chunk persition.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Then yes, yes, the boomerang ch.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
All right, So so what's yours. Yeah, let's see, I'm thinking.
I was thinking the whole time, and I'm just.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
Wow, wow, yeah, dubs, did you figure something out?

Speaker 4 (58:59):
It was yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what it's it's
it's hard. It's hard. It's hard to speak, it's hard
to speak on it because it was it was basically
a life and that situation.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
Mm hmm, No, that's too deep.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
And I had to I had to deal with my brothers.
So like we found out that that we were compatible,
and I knew he needed the can and he asked me,
but I was too, but I was too young at
the time, like to you see like the the importance
of it. So hold on, man, So like someone's calling you. Yeah,

(59:42):
so like when the happening was right, when that happening
was right, So he goes through like transplants and stuff right,
and then like you know, like back in like the
twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, I was like, you know what,
I ain't drinking no more. You know, I'm focused. You know,
I love you, bro, Like let's go do this. And

(01:00:05):
by the time, like you know, we want to go
like do the test and all that stuff, right, Like
the doctors over here they don't want to do it.
So we went to Columbia Presbyterian and like they were
willing to do it up until they saw how much
Scar to shoot you at because he had so much
trans right, and when they told me that they can't

(01:00:28):
do it, and they called them up and said that
they couldn't do it. Yo, I freaking started crying in
the hospital because I already knew right then and there,
like they just sentenced my brother to dath and like
and like you know what, and there was something I
could have done. And like when I told him no
because I was scared, I was like out your mind.

(01:00:49):
I was eighteen at the time. Like you know, I
remember the look on his face, right, like he held
in tears, right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Yeah, but you know you didn't hurt him. You didn't
hurt him, though, Like I don't like that you think
that this is a way that you hurt somebody. You
didn't hurt him because it wasn't something that you were
unable to do or whatever that's you. It hurts me

(01:01:22):
right now that you would even think that this is
something even something you didn't hurt him. By that you
you really are taking guilt and fault to this, because
that isn't your fault, you know that, right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I mean there's always a lot of what is, of course.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
But at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
This isn't can tell you how close I was, but
I know and like and like you know, like hey
stop that, like stop it, hm, hey stop trying to Yo,
stop trying to shack my chain.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
She's trying to get involved obviously in the conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Yeah, so like when you know, like like I remember
clear as day because they had me watch a video
about it, and I'm here all like you know, hyped up.
But then for them to like come in the room,
it's like, yeah, we can't do it. So I was
like what you know what I'm saying, I'm so saw.

(01:02:29):
I blackedout, said, Yo, what you mean you can't do it?
So what the fuck you have me come over here?

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
For?

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
I worked, you know what, I worked last night just
to rush masks over here in time for all this
to say you can't do it. You couldn't call. You
know what I'm saying, Like that would have saved you
what I'm saying, that would have saved me a trip.
The first thing I did when I got back to
Jersey was go, like see my brother, like you know,

(01:02:54):
he started crying and he was like that's it. I'll
never forget that day though, you know what I'm saying,
because like because like stop because like, h I walked
you know what I'm saying, Like I walked out of
his house like sleeping problem night the thing like I

(01:03:18):
started thinking about when I told him no the first time.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Right, but again now you think your daughters even telling
you write down that it's not your faults. Yeah, because
it's not your faults.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
It is. And you know what, and other people that
I heard, you know, like all I you know what
I'm saying. All I could do now is ask you
know what I'm saying. They're listening. I doubt that, but
you know, to have like you know what I'm saying,
like like like, you know, ask for forgiveness, and that's it.

(01:03:56):
I wasn't you know, I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
Even right now, I'm sure. But at the same time,
this wasn't your fault. You aren't the reason. I don't.
I think you need to hear that you were not
the reason. This is not your fault. Like the fact
that you loved him enough to want to do this
for him. I have siblings who I don't even talk to.

(01:04:23):
You had a sibling who you loved and who loved you,
and you guys loved each other so much that you
were willing to do something like that for him. If anything,
you were his fucking hero. Dude. Don't think anything other
than that, because it is not your fault. And I'm
sorry that no one has said this to you sooner,

(01:04:44):
because it's the.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Truth is that I don't talk about it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Well, I'm glad you did because now you know it's
not your.

Speaker 9 (01:04:52):
Fault and no one is half the battle, bro right
ge still, But yeah, how a question just went to
like interpretation matters, right, Like, it's very interesting to me

(01:05:16):
that we all heard one question and kind of like
interpret our story that we told was an interpretation and
how we took that question.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
But like it also shows how much we internalize and
beat ourselves up for things. A lot of times that
is not on us. It really isn't, and that's okay.
You know, sometimes it happens like I could blame myself
for my mom dying because I could have told her

(01:05:48):
not to get the surgery and see what would happen,
you know, But what's that going to do for me?
She died. There's nothing I can do. She actually died
the way she wanted to, which was getting the surgery,
and it was literally the only option for her to
live because she wasn't you know, my mom had a
pancreatic cancer. She was not going to do chemo and

(01:06:11):
radiation again, So she took her chances, even though they
told her it was you know, there's a chance this
is not going to work out. And she lived for
a couple of weeks after her surgery, and that was
a wow. But do I regret ever taking her to

(01:06:33):
uh I can't even remember their name right now, Spoonne
memorial cattering because Hackensack refused to do her surgery. No,
I do not regret that, because that truly was her
only like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Hope at that moment.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
Yeah, you know, sometimes like I could have totally taken
that on on myself and blame my self for a
lot of things. Right, it's definitely not my fault. You know,
my mom, like in her final months showed us the

(01:07:13):
most strength we've ever seen in our mother. And so
I feel like, you know, it's unfortunate when it takes
you dying to actually be a better person, but you know,
at least that that's the experience I got to take
with me, Like, but you got to see it, yes,

(01:07:39):
And it's crazy because like in December, I like, you
still can't believe it's going to be ten years because
it goes time goes by fast. But at the same time,
it doesn't feel like it was that long ago. It
feels like it was a few years ago, like oddly,
you know, there's just these moments you have and and

(01:08:00):
I'm sure that all of us because we've experienced grief
in some way or a loss, like it could be
perfectly fine, and then you hear something that makes you
trigger a memory that makes you think about the person
and then you realize that you miss them because they're
not here. So usually October, like, these months are hard

(01:08:24):
for me because my grandma's birthday would have been October eighth.
My mom's birthdays December twentieth, and she died the twenty
first of December, so it's like such a weird time birthday. Yeah,
see so like and it's right right before the holidays too,

(01:08:45):
you know, so it always makes it just a little harder.
But I'm so grateful for the people in my life,
the life that I have, the job that I have,
even though I want more, I'm grateful for the things
I do have, and I'm actually happy, which Corleone can
attest to a few years ago I was not. So

(01:09:10):
yeah mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Yeah, I get it, man. And then and don't say and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Don't sit and don't you know me, I mean, you
know what like next month, Like next month is like
my brother's birthday, and then like two weeks after that is, oh,
my grandmother passed away. Those are the two people that

(01:09:41):
you know, like had like a real positive impact on
my life. And like you know, and like like when
my you know what, when my grandmother passed away, Like
I just like you know what I'm saying, internalize everything
and quietly lost mhm. You know, like at such a
young age and stuff. So like now you know, now

(01:10:01):
you know, like I'm older now, so like I'm able
to like you know, enjoy the little things I have,
you know, like like you know, like when my brother
passed away, me and my older brother wasn't getting along.
So when they came up here, like I remember were

(01:10:22):
looking on my brother's cast and I looked at him.
I was like I was a brother, you know. After
mom and Dad's gone, we all we got you know, yeah,
I'm like, I'm like, you got a family, So I
got scattered kids, right, you know, but they're still my family,
you know. But like with like you know what, We're

(01:10:46):
gonna have to like start somewhere because because like my
oldest brother was like, you know, you guys are like
two thousand miles away and yet you know, like you
guys are always arguing. And then you told me the
real the reason why. He's because you always get in trouble.
That shit's annoying hearing mom, like you know, stress about
you getting in trouble. He got a point, he made

(01:11:09):
a good point, you know, like but like but like
at that time, you know, like everything was like you know,
slowing down a little bit. But then like when my
brother died, like I turned the love a lot, and
like I was drinking a lot, you know, like a lot.

(01:11:31):
Like I picked up drinking again, like probably like a
year later because I didn't know how to like you know,
deal with it. So like I was drinking a lot,
and then I was like doing reckless shit like driving
like who the hell drinks a freaking fifth of fucking
titos or whatever side of hop behind the wheel, living

(01:11:51):
you know, knowing damn where you live, like you know,
twenty miles away, like fifteen miles away, and stuff on
the highway and nighttime. Yeah, I always always my hand
on that one. You know. Some people like, yeah, you're stupid, yo,
I had no interest in living. You know, I really didn't,
you know what I'm saying, like like you know, I
would laugh on whatever talking about I'm just drinking to

(01:12:13):
catch up to the pays I missed. No, you know
what I'm saying, I was drinking because I was running
away from something. You know, you know what, like because
you know what, on this planet, in this world and
this life, you're either chasing something or you're running away
from something, or you're doing both. But you really can't
do both. You can't chase something to run away from something.

(01:12:35):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta focus
on what you're chasing, and you got to focus on
what you're running away from. So yeah, you know, like
so like yeah, you know, like this is this is
who I am. Like you know, when I'm on the

(01:12:57):
phone with people, you know, like when I come out here, Yeah,
it's therapeutic to bug out or whatever, you know, be
somewhat of a villain, be a little offensive. I ain't
trying to do. I ain't trying to you know, while
I like no more because you know, I got you
know what I'm saying, like I got business ventures that
that will be working on real soon and the last

(01:13:19):
thing I need is if I'm going to close out
on the deal. Someone here some wild as ship that
said three.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
You know, you know, like you know like like like
like you know like like like you know like I'm like,
I'm like, I'm all like you know, you know, like
dress appropriately. And then all of a sudden, I say, yeah,
what's this about? Yeah that bitch raw I don't need.
I don't need that. You know what I'm saying, Like
like you know what I'm saying, that's gonna come and
mess up with my money.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Oh so so now you respect the process when it
messes with your money.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Now you've been Tea get people.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
And now it's joking around.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
That the show's done. All Star Villain is done.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
No, not really, you know what I'm saying, villain deals.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Wait was it what was that thing that you just showed?

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
No, it was it's actually uh flashes Penis. He has
a detachable dechable. When I heard that song the rest time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
You really can't see it because.

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
The light it is like it's glowing. It looks like
it's from Marrio Brothers Zell.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
That makes sense, but you can't see it, have some toy.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Is this your way to like tell people to wrap
it up like they did on the Chappell Show with
the music, Wrap it up? Wrap it up?

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
The soundboard?

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta set it up, man,
I have to.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
You still have it?

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
You still can't even have unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
No, no, it's not that. It's not that I have
to working with it. It needs to have to figure
out how to use it on this laptop.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
Okay, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
It has nothing to do with whether or not it works.
It works, it's just trying to figure out how to
get it for you guys to hear it as well
as I hear it in the headphone. So the problem,
the problem I was having with it was whenever I recorded,
I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it on the playback. Boom.
That makes it makes no sense to have a soundboard

(01:15:47):
and it makes sounds during the show, but nobody can
hear it on the playback. Right, I'll figure it. I'll
figure it out. So so let me trash on trash Yeah,
let me all right? So a relationship, all right, So.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
A Buddhist man Boom, that's how that's how you feel,
that's how you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
Feel our own sound board.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
I don't feel that way because I just got box.
You just do that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Hilarious. They can't with you. He's like, I'll remind you
who's the boss. I can.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
All right, so real cool, Let me, let me, let me,
let me, let me do this because I figured out
what I'm gonna what I'm gonna come with, what I'm
gonna say. So, uh, somebody I heard, I'm gonna tell
you right now this is this is so whether or
not she's listening, I don't know. Okay, but my daughter's mother,

(01:17:15):
my oldest daughter's mom. Okay, we were young when we
had and I don't even know if my daughter, my
daughter knows this, but she'll know it now. Me and
her mom were together back when we were fifteen and

(01:17:39):
she had she had gotten she had gotten pregnant, and
her parents, her parents were like, listen, did you this
isn't happening, like you know? So she she she went
and she had she had been abortion the first time, right,

(01:18:04):
and us being idiots, she went ahead and she got
pregnant again, not really not thinking about the first time.
She gets pregnant again, and so we have my daughter, right,
But I treated I treated my daughter's mother so bad.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
So I mean I treated her bad man Like I was.
I was a kid. I didn't know any better. I
was like fifteen, sixteen years old or something. I was.
I was a street kid. I was out on the
streets doing street kids shit, you know, doing all types

(01:18:49):
of crazy shit, not thinking about consequences, not thinking about nothing, man.
And and I sometimes I can still see some of
the ship that I said, and did you know? And
I have a lot of regret, especially when it comes

(01:19:15):
to my daughter's mom because if if you can always
say if if you knew what you knew now? Right,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
We always say that I know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
But her mom, her mom, her mom, she didn't. She
didn't deserve any of the ship that I put her through. Man.
And I feel bad because now now she's she has
cancer and she's very very ill. She has stage four.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Have you said anything to her then?

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
And I told my daughter, I said, I think I
need to have a conversation with your mother. She gave
me her number and everything, and like I want to,
I want to talk who are in everything? But I
have no idea, what the fuck I want to say
to her?

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
Man, and literally what you just said, I was I
was thinking back to you know us and what had happened,
and I didn't treat you the way I should have
treated you deserved better than that, and I am not
that person. Yeah, you keep waiting, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Before you know it, it's going.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
To be too late. That's all you need to say.
And and you know what, and she could do. Don't
have any expectation though you know, she may not forgive
you and and may like be like it's a little
too late for that, you know. But at the same time,
if this is what you need to let her know,
like I fucked up and I'm sorry for what I did.

(01:20:48):
I think an apology is a huge thing because you're
recognizing that you did wrong and you feel some way
about it now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
So yeah, yo, you know what, And that people can't speak,
that people can't talk back talkers tooken, bro, Yeah you
know what I'm saying, like like, Yo, you know what
messed up? You know you know what I'm saying, Like
like like you must be scared about what you know

(01:21:19):
what I'm saying. The outcome is going to be fuck
the outcome. Say what you feel, speak your peace right,
you know, like like yo, you know what if I
could talk to my daughter's mom, I apologize, you know
like even though like you know, like it works out
the way it works out, you know what I'm saying,
but all apology what I'm saying, like I would apologize,

(01:21:40):
you know, like however, you know, like that girl hates
me so much like you you know, because but yo,
you know the thing is I was older, but you
know what though like I was just like in my
in my I do not care about nothing face when man, yeah,
when I say I didn't care about nothing nothing like

(01:22:02):
you know what, how did yo? You know what? Like
it amazing? It amazed me how like someone expected me
to love them but I didn't love myself right and
I don't understand that. I couldn't. I couldn't grasp you
know back then. You know what I'm saying, what like
that whole that you know what I'm saying, Like why
am I even bugging out like that? You know? I
didn't love myself, so you know what, like like I

(01:22:24):
didn't love myself enough, you know what I'm saying. But
and here this person is giving me. You know what
I'm saying, gave me my first daughter, and yeah, you
know what I mean, Like I just you know what
I'm saying. I just you know, I mean, like every yoke,
let's just say the womanizing was like crazy, you know
what I'm saying, Like it was just toxic, you know,

(01:22:45):
like like you know, you'll find out the truth. I
was like, yeah, and you know what, I'm gonna do
it again tomorrow that I get punched in the face.
And you know what I'm saying, you know, like whatever,
you know what I'm saying that I deserve to get
hit yo, brool. That did Hell yeah, I'll admit that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
See. The think the thing is too is that we
like I haven't, I didn't speak. We didn't talk in
like twenty something years, like we haven't. And then I
saw her at the at my daughter's gender reveal party.
She introduced me, I introduced She introduced me to her

(01:23:22):
her dude, and she was like, hey, this is you
know and she was like, how you doing. How's everything?
I was like, I'm good, you know, how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
We kept it, We kept it, you know, we kept
it cool. And then at the baby shower, she she
said to me, listen, you know I That's what she
said to me. Like, she came to me. She walked
up to me and she was like, listen, I want
to talk to you about someone. I was like, what's up.
She was like, you know, I have cancer and everything.
And I was like wow, you know, and I was

(01:23:49):
kind of like taken back a little bit because she
was she was. She came to me and she told
me personally, you know, I didn't hear from my daughter,
didn't hear from nobody. I heard it from her mouth.
And she was like, I just wanted to let you
know that. And you know, because if anything happens, you
know Melody, you know she's gonna she's gonna, you know,

(01:24:12):
need to have you know, have you there, and you know,
stuff like that and everything. So but I am, I got,
I got, I got, I gotta, I got the number.
I just gotta make the call. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
No speaking peace?

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Fine, you know what I'm saying, don't sleep on a corne.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
Where is she located far from you?

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
She's in Jersey City.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
I think you should do this, Thomas, for nobody, you
know what I'm saying, Like like like seeing you know
what I'm saying, Like Tom, you know, Thomas, just what
I'm saying a false like security blanket. You think we
have to we never do exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
So that's why this week you're going to go to
your city. You're gonna hit up either that cafe that's
Cuban on the corner or the Puerto Rican spog if
yourselves up at me or whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Do. Wait don't all right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
The last, the last question of the evening, we're going
to get to it. So this is another another good question.
Which past relationship or connection are you most content with
leaving in the past and why.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
All of them?

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
I'm not answering that question.

Speaker 5 (01:25:41):
They're in the past for a reason. I think that
if I was meant to have relationships with these people,
I'd still have relationships room bus. That's what I was thinking.
That's the place, by the way that I was thinking about.
Oh snap, be careful copyright in prison. Oh yeah, but yeah,

(01:26:11):
like it's it's past relationship. Like I I'm like on
good terms with my exes. I've even been friends with axes,
Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
All right, So all right, so doubsn't gonna answer the
question he just says, that's yo, yo.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
You know what I'm not, you know, like it is
what it is, you know what I'm saying, Like I
don't like I don't need to be buddy, but nobody,
you know, like the minute you know what I'm saying,
the minute we've done, the minute we've done, we go

(01:26:57):
along your way or go along minds like if I
see this, hello, I doing and that's it, you know,
like there's no like there's no phone conversations doing nothing,
you know, like just what you know what I'm saying,
Like I don't need runs, I need money, right, you know,
like unless like you know what I'm saying, like you

(01:27:21):
have a business proposal, then we can talk. Other than that,
like I have no reason to talk to you, you know,
like good luck in your life though, good luck when
your future endeavors, you know, like I'm not a bit
of person. But there's no really you know, there don't
needs for me to talk to people. And I'm not

(01:27:41):
trying to sound like you know, like like I hate
people like they once again like trying to sound better
or nothing. It's that it's unnecessary for me to like,
you know, hold on to something that you know, yeah,
you know what, it was good while the lasted, you
know what I'm saying, Like, but like you're not the
person that's in my life now. You're the person that
was there when well, like it was both convenient for us,

(01:28:04):
you know what I'm saying, Like we needed each other
at that point in time, and like you know, like
I'm grateful for that and all that stuff, but you know,
like you went your way with minds and good love
with that, and I mean that the best way possible. No, no,

(01:28:27):
no malice in my heart and moving yeah, you know
what I'm saying, and moving on, you know what I mean?
Like like yo, you know what you know, like like
on the road again, like yo, you know like like yo,
you know what like like like you know what, like
before I used to be like, yeah, you know what,
puppy get hit by a freaking truck. You know what

(01:28:47):
I'm saying. You know, yo, Yo, you know what I
used to be like that. You know what I'm saying,
like yeah, you know what I'm trying to hear, shit,
go somewhere and die. You know now it's like you know,
I picked you know what I'm saying, Like like as
reckless as I am here. I really choose my words
wisely though, you know, like especially with people that you
know that actually know me. Not because I'm scared, it's because,

(01:29:11):
you know, like I'm not trying to be you know
what I'm saying, Like I really don't you know what
I'm saying, like like, yeah, you know what being a
vielding is school, but ship, you know what I'm saying,
like like, yo, you know what you know, like there
has to be an understanding, you know, like Fanos and
old Trump, you know, like those are understanding with them,
Like the Joker. You know what I'm saying, those are
understanding with him. You know, like there has to be

(01:29:35):
some type of understandings. So like, you know what, in
order for me to even do that, I have to
speak you know what I'm saying my piece the way
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
All right, Okay, so what about you, lady g anything?

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
Can you?

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Can you ask that question again? Because doves went on
so long after forever?

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
All right? So what past relationship or connection are you
most content with leaving in the past and why?

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Okay, her Wi Fi connection?

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Oh my god, he's such an idiot, I would say
one of my brothers because it was it's it was
always toxic from day one. I love him, but I

(01:30:39):
love him from afar. But after all these years, like
I'm I'm content with leaving that relationship in the past.
It did nothing but cause pain and anguish, lots and
lots of tears and anger sacrifice, Like there comes a

(01:31:04):
point when people take so much from you that you
have no more to give them. And so, like I said,
I always love them, but I'm very content with leaving
that relationship behind.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
And it hurts more, I think when it's family, because
they're supposed to like be the safe ones and be
the ones that you can count on, and it sucks
when you are part of its functional family where that
person isn't that person.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
And you know what, I used to feel bad about that,
but I met someone recently and they shared a similar
story with me about a sibling, and they're like, I
hate them. They they did some mad damage. And so

(01:32:05):
it's I think it's ironic that we're asking this question
tonight because this has only been within the last couple
of days.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Isn't it ironic? A little too ironic? That's karaoke right there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Yeah, it's funny how we think that we're alone in
a lot of things. Yeah, we find out we're not.

Speaker 5 (01:32:34):
You were not alone? Oh god, oh my lord.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
All right, So with that being said, we see.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Your day job, yeah, being unemployed, that job.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
You keep doing a great job that well, so you know,
like my.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Day job is at my day job, you know. Oh
oh oh, let me ask you a question, right, when
do you think trolling someone goes too far? Right? Like
I seen I've seen something on Twitter real quick, right,
and they let.

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
You back on?

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
No, no, yeah, well they let me back on. But
like I'm like trying to stay away from it, you
know what I mean, like like not you know, not
engaging nothing because you know, it's it's just like you know,
Twitter is successful, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
I mean, I believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Yeah, it really is more than so yo, you know
what you know? And yeah, bro, like all these only
fan models you know, like like you know, flashing the
herpe infested lips, you know, like you know, like like yo,
I was reading something with like some one dude slept
with seventy five women. You know what I'm saying, making
only fans content. But you know what I'm saying, normally

(01:33:57):
he had herpes and he's rolled and all these people
you know, like no, now that hurt this out right,
you know, like so like so there was an interaction
between these two guys right, like you know, they're going

(01:34:18):
back and forth right about you know, like hip hop music,
and then like you know it's a personal right, we're
like or like the Italian dude told the black dude
that he was a part of the coaching now you know,
cultural appropriation stuff. So like they so they then went
back and forth right and then like you know, like
the idiot, the Italian dude had his name his real name,

(01:34:42):
and I'm like I'm here reading his real name and
I'm like why would you have your real name on Twitter?
Know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Why Why?

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
So the dude started doing his homework and figure out that,
you know what I'm saying, like like like you know,
like he lived in Philly and whatever, and that his
grandfather recently died. Oh man, yo, no bro, homeboy like
you know just went like you know, savage mode on

(01:35:11):
them talking about he was like yo, he was like yo,
you know what because like there's a comment where like
the dude said, He's like that's what you're getting buried
right now. He's like, he's like, you know, when you
say buried me, do you mean like bury me and
I could come up alive, like to walk in dead
or bury like your grandfather. I was like, and then like,
you know, he posts like the obituary thing, and I

(01:35:32):
was like, oh, he's like, Yo, Twitter has no freaking rules.

Speaker 5 (01:35:37):
Yo. Well it's people have no boundaries or lines. They
just cross Yo. They don't give a ship.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
And that's Twitter for you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
You know, they want to hurt as much as possible,
and there are people who like get joy out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
I feel, yeah, that's Twitter for you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
People are people, That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:36:01):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
There's a lot of hurt people out there. You hear
the politicians, there's a lot of hurt. We're all struggling,
we're all.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
Man. But but don't forget it, you know what. Yeah,
you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
So with right wing part of all right, we're done.
Hold on, wait, I gotta give the signal.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Yo, should cordial showing the golden rose? Yo? So you
got the golden rose.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
With that being said, Lady t G, what's your final
thought of the evening? Yep?

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
I don't know. Just just have a good week and
uh and vote thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Okay, what's your final thought of me?

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
One day? I'm gonna play a Red Band sket where
like Jerry's like you Redmand did the Jerry Springer skit
where he's like, well, I think you got the final
thought in your hand, Jerry here side right after. That's
gonna be my final thought. I'm gonna play that one day.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Okay, just to be a jerk, lady, give us your
final thought of the evening.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Love and fairy tales still exist.

Speaker 5 (01:37:29):
Ah mm hmm wahh.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
You know what if I ever get to you face,
I'm gonna fla.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
What what what?

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
W d J clue clue.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
Drop the bomb on him?

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Boom, drop the bomb on him? Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Feeling feeling falty right now? Y'all? Why is that because
y'all crapping on my thought for the evening?

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Yes, we we apologize.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
No, that was just I don't I apologize all right?

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
So, so old.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Golden Rose the golden rose.

Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
Equivalent of shedding the light off in a room with children.
It's like, it's like, okay, guys, it's uiet time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
Watch out for the cuckoo.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
Yo? Who do the Clinton road man?

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Oh ship? No, my final thought of the evening is.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
This when you're wipe back, if you're dirty, don't hold
on wait wait, hold on, though you think we're talking
about the women, Now we're talking about your little bitch

(01:39:19):
as niggas. We're talking about you bitch people, you bitch dudes.
He pitches front to back.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
No dingle berries allowed, Captain.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Crunch flavored, all right, but for him, wow, what I do?

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
A right? So with that, with that being said, my
dog is acting. She acted up today.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
It's just on her ship.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
I don't know what the fuck is going on. Jesus
know what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (01:40:05):
Did you recently like shout out your dog too for
me so good?

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Yeah, like shout out shout out to for being look exactly,
you know what. She's probably rewatching that one episode.

Speaker 4 (01:40:20):
Bro. It's a full moon tonight. Bro, isn't a full
moon tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Trying to get in she exactly, all right. So with
that being said, I'm big cole on that stady G.
That's t D love. That's down a ka, Simon Phoenix, Yeah,
a lot of a kas. Thank you for doing us tonight,
and always remember that at some point, despite her everybody
piece out

Speaker 5 (01:40:47):
Boy,
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