August 10, 2024 • 43 mins
Monsoons and Mole Men
On this episode we discuss murder mysteries, entrepreneurship, and what to wear out of the house!
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On this episode we discuss murder mysteries, entrepreneurship, and what to wear out of the house!
Intro/Outro Music “Works all the Time” produced by Dominik Schwarzer
Three's Company Podcast is a part of the B-Word Media Group. B-Word Media Group is a collection of Spreaker Prime podcasts. For more information: https://try.spreaker.com/prime-program/.
Make sure to check out the legacy podcasts: Bleach Bros Podcast, Dads on Dayquill, and Fraternize with These Guys.
For more B-Word Media Group podcasts, check out The Hateful Gnome's Music Hut, Unfiltered Discussions, Heroic Headspace, Raunchy Regret Podcast, and Two Guys in a Dart.
Make sure to check out the legacy podcasts: Bleach Bros Podcast, Dads on Dayquill, and
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
All right, welcome into this episode of the Threes Company podcast.
This is a get ready with me for Katie. She's
got places to be, so the eyeliner is going on.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is a routine. I don't know. I'm gonna ask
you guys about this because it's is this a go
anywhere situation? Because I have become way more relaxed with
when I go in public because I think I'm old
at this point, right, Like, if I'm off, I will
typically just roll out of bed, throw on shoes, and
go run errands. But like, if I have to go
anywhere serious, I'll at least take a shower and put
(00:56):
on some, like, you know, some real clothes. But is
this a whole tutorial to do every time you leave
the house or No?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So I I stopped doing makeup for several years because
I work nights, so I didn't bother doing anything. But
because I have a webinar for work today and oh
corporate people are gonna see me, I figure throwing a
(01:24):
little bit of.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Makeup, got it? So you got it? You're essentially getting
ready for work work from home type situation today.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
No, I actually got to go in for an hour
and a half and try to sneak on out before
anyone sees me and try to keeps me there longer.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
That's gross. Nobody wants to go in for now. What
about you, Danielle? Are you? Are you just like you
gotta have it all done up before you just run
to the store real quick, or you're just like fuck it,
we're out of here.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't get the fuck make up on. Rarely do
I put makeup on.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think that it's I think that's probably more common nowadays.
Maybe maybe not more common, but like as I get older,
I just notice it. Like I used to remember at work,
when we'd be at work down on and be like,
why don't those people get dressed? They just like come
in here and shop. I think it was just that,
like Wi Fi, why even bother? At this point, I'm
here for milk.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And I'll put it on.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's like I got something going on. But most of
the time, like I don't, I don't wear makeup.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, I typically don't wear a lot of makeup either.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Don't get me wrong. When I run to the grocery store,
which is like two blocks away, half the time, I'm
wearing my slippers that have thick soles.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, not even a bra. Oh oh oh damn.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's what I'm saying, Like, uh see, and that's that's
me too. I typically just run in the crock flops
with no bra either, because I don't want to have
to go through all the you know what I mean,
it's a lot to put it all on and everything,
and then who am I trying to impress? Just let
it out? Who cares?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Gotta let them titties free.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
That's right. I'm thirty. I I ain't trying to catch
no man anymore. Just let them out. Okay. Well, it
has been two weeks now since we've sat down and
talk to all of our listeners. What has been new
and exciting in uh Nevada? First? What's going on in Nevada?
(03:17):
Anything exciting over there?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Not really. We've had some smoke from the fires going around.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But there's another fire. Oh, there was a huge one,
of course there was.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Where's it at in California?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Of course it was.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It was like I think it was.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Like over forty acres or something forty five hundred, I
don't remember.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Is it the one in Yosemite? I think it was,
or that was something else for like.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
The I can't remember where exactly, but then there's some
like outside Reno.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, some closer ones. Okay, well yeah, I mean that's
typical of you know, the time of year. There's always
some freaking wildfire raging around, just fucking up the things.
It's just where that whole area sits in that jet stream, right,
It's just you get all that smoke and nonsense. But well,
that's good to know that that's still happening up there.
How about how about Phoenix? What's going on down there?
(04:13):
In the one hundred and thirteen degrees that I saw?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
It feels like you're singing in the middle of a fire.
And then you get the.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Random bouts of thunderstorms.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I think there's even supposed to be one today. So
then it just makes it humid. But you're used to humid.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh yeah, I'm all for getting thunderstorms a lot too.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh so you're the ones that are keeping them away
from here, because I'm trying to get my own and
I can't get a break because they're all over there
with you too. That's nice, that's nice. Go ahead and
return to Cender. Those are mine.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Nice technically, Arizona technically right now, it's a.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What's it called, uh, monsoon season?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Monsoon season.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, but we haven't had really much of anything for
Monson's last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, I think now that I'm older, you see a pattern,
Like everybody says, oh, it's monsoon season, and then it
doesn't happen, and then after like five years, all of
a sudden, it happens again, like a cycle that happened
in Vegas not too long ago. They have flooded out.
They had to get all the homeless people out of
the tunnels and stuff because they were going to die. Yeah,
that's crazy. Oh, there's secret underground cities in Las Vegas.
(05:26):
You guys know that, right, You got to look that up.
You got to look that you Yeah, you've never been.
You live like twenty minutes away from it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Eight hours away from it, which.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Is pretty much twenty minutes if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Oh yeah, it's just glorified Reno. I'll just go to Reno.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I think Reno is glorified Vegas. That's the copy and paste.
But Vegas is much more than a Reno. I mean,
it's there's a lot of cool shit there, but underneath
the strip, Yeah, for sure, there's all kinds of like
tunnel systems and everything that they built and the infrastructure
and never use it. And now there's like homeless people
like molemen living down there. That's a real thing. They
had documentaries on it. There's like camera cters that went
(06:05):
down there and like hung out with those people. Very
very strange, very strange.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I go through it, but I've never gone and hung
out there.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, now driving through it you get to see it,
but I mean like looking and like going in it
and seeing it and really like look at what the
neighborhoods and stuff aar too. There's some of the best.
They're like rated the safest neighborhoods in the US, some
of them around Las Vegas. So it's it's not.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I mean it is, but it's too big, it's gross
many people.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, if you're if you're there for certain things, it's nice.
If you're living in certain areas, it's nice. But then otherwise, yeah,
you're in you're in like a lot of a lot
of crazy people stuff. But that's nice. That's good. Much
like Texas, which we no one likes. So there's that. Okay,
I have I have something I wanted to I want
(06:56):
to talk to you guys about this. I had a
brief conversation with someone else about it, not very I
guess because they've already kind of like dealt with it
and it's very ongoing. But you guys are both murder
mystery people, and I want to know your takes each
on this. This popularity around Gypsy Rose Blanchard. This chick
(07:16):
is blown up my TikTok feed and the entire case
is just wildly It's just strange. Like I think she's
a master manipulator. I think she was totally guilty of
a lot of shit, and somehow we're like as a society,
like giving her millions of dollars for her story. I'm like, dude,
she killed her mom.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's crazy ethnically, she had the boyfriend kill her mom.
But I think the reason that people are kind of
more on her side is because what her mom did
to her growing up like that, that itself is crazy.
That'll I'll mess with anyone's head, especially growing up that way.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, is it is it Munchauser syndrome? Is that what
it's it called?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I is it Munchausen syndrome.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Takes something to do with munchkins. I don't know, but yeah,
I think I know it like the boyfriend actually did
the killing or allegedly right, because she says she was
locked in the bathroom, but like the lock is on
the inside, so she couldn't possibly be locked in there
or anything. But uh, the whole thing is strange, like
the way like I don't know, do you know, like
when she how old was she when she killed? When
(08:25):
she killed her mom? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think I want to say she was like twenty two.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, her mom.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Her mom had her believe that she was several years
younger than she actually was.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, so the world believes, like in the in the
perception of the documentaries in like the Lifetime movies, that
she was like fifteen or sixteen. She was actually twenty three,
almost twenty four, and she believed she was nineteen. Fucking wild.
I mean, as damaged as you have to be from
all of that stuff, Like you still, at some point
(09:00):
in my mind I was like, even if you think
you're nineteen, like you're an adult, Like wouldn't you reach
out to some kind of like resources or something. Because
she was smart enough to get a phone and like
call other people and like deal with this dude, like
she couldn't have like called somebody else, reached out to
her other family.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, from my understanding, she she didn't think she had
any family that wanted anything to do with her. I
don't think she had seen her dad since I want
to say she was like nine or ten or something.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's great, that's just nuts. I don't And I guess
in all of this stuff, like I've watched and read
and stuff like, I never understood the mom's motive behind it,
just to like get free.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Shit or attention and free stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And that's it, Like there's no other like that's that's
like that's crazy in itself, just that anyway from a
from like a because to me, it's still a mystery,
like it's a murder mystery. Like everyone went to jail
and got out and everything, but well except the dude.
How long is the dude there forever?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I was gonna say, I think the dude ended up
getting life. I can't. I can't remember, Danielle, can you remember?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I think he's done forever because he's the one that
can uh uh confessed to doing the whole thing because
he was trying to save her and everything. But what
I find strange is like, I don't know of any
other like murderer or case like this where they get
out of jail and they're well prison, she's out of prison,
(10:39):
potentially going back to prison for violating some shit, but
like they're not. Nobody's ever like got out of jail
and been hailed as such a like a reality like star,
like an icon. Like there's there's millions of people that
follow her social media's and cheer her on and everything,
And I'm like, how to me, that's the manipulation. She's
been manipulating people forever, and now she's manipulated millions of
(11:00):
people into thinking that she's like some sort of like
super victim.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, she turned into her mom, right.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's why. Right, isn't that strange? Like because her mom
would have wanted her to be in that limelight so
that her mom could reap all the benefits, right, and
now she's getting all that, like she's worth like three
zero point five million or something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, I mean that's all she knows.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, Yeah, she only knows how to manipulate people in
situations and get these things. When she's missing certain criteria,
she changes the script on it and everything. I don't
know what I another. Like, it's fascinating to me because
it speaks to like other people's mindsets, like the dude
that married her in prison, right, because there was one
(11:45):
guy that she was going to be married to and
then he left her while she was in prison. And
then the dude marries her while she's in prison, and
then he's the guy that when she gets out, he's there,
and that dude is incredibly weird to watch the what's
that guy? Ryan, the big.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Dude, the big one.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, Like people are clipping together just all of his
like cringiest moments on tiktoon and they're fantastic to watch
because you're like, dude, that guy is really kind of weird,
Like he's super creepy. He's trying to control a lot
of stuff. He like takes her phone away from her
and stuff, and it's like, dude, she didn't even know
how to use that thing. Why are you like taking
it from her? Like she's doing some shit.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, from what I understood, wasn't she cheating on the
bigger dude with her ex r That's.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Where it goes. Yeah, she the guy that was going
to marry her and then left after she gets out
and she's married, she has to go to like Louisiana
or something because that's where the guy lives. And then she,
through her family, ends up talking to the guy that
left her when she was in prison, and she's like
still in love with him and all this other stuff
(12:51):
or like you can tell it, like it looks very fabricated.
And then now she's pregnant by that dude. But she's
in the middle of a divorce. But Louisiana has like
very strict divorce laws, like you're you are required to
live apart from each other for like thirty thirty ninety
(13:11):
days something like that, three months, and then you can
file for divorce and in those but then but you're
not allowed to like do anything. You're not allowed to
commit any crime against your spouse in those three months,
Like you're not supposed to stock or you know, commit
(13:32):
any kind of domestic situation or anything like that, because
then that that would forfeit anything in your divorce proceedings.
Like if you're like going after them for like alimony
and money and stuff they do, well, now you committed
a crime against them, and so you don't get any
of that stuff. So there's like all these weird like
strict laws. Well, adultery is one of those things, like
you're not allowed to commit adultery against your spouse while
(13:54):
you're in this divorce thing. And she's totally yeah, well
she's pregnant by the other guy, which means she totally
committed it. And I think it's considered a crime, which
means she committed a new crime. And they're like violating
her parole on it. That's kind of what they were
talking about. It was a crime, it's a new crime.
She's on proa she's not allowed to commit crimes, so boom,
(14:15):
she could go back to prison now for that, for
getting pregnant. Like, oh, that's crazy, that's insane to me
to think that. But again, like here's here's the dude,
Like why their mindsets triped me out, because like you
already like if I'm the guy that married her when
she was still in prison, like that's a whole murderer. Like, however,
you look at that case, even if you believe that
(14:37):
she was like a victim who was locked in the
bathroom while her boyfriend murdered her mom, like she was
still like she was convicted of being involved in that right, Like,
so all of the jury, all of the people. Yeah,
she admitted to like help setting it up. Like, so
that's already like a thing, and you're gonna tell me that.
You're like, Okay, here's someone who's like totally capable of
(14:58):
having other people kill people that she doesn't like. I
think I should marry with that lady and have her
live in my house with me. I don't mean to
be striking a personal nerve there, but you're I just
realized what I was talking about. Well I'm like, oh shit, sorry,
well okay, well so you have some insight on that.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Sorry, go ahead, Well technically.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
My my situation, my ex husband didn't kill anyone.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yes, But I guess if you.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
If you truly believe, at least at that time, you're
that naive to truly believe that, even though the evidence
is stacked against this person and they got convicted of it,
if you convince yourself that no, there's no way they
could have done that, I see what a great person
(15:49):
this is.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah. So that's that's the thought process, right. Yeah, So
you're truly in the belief that this person is innocent
of the crime that they've actually been convicted of. Or
at least in a sense that maybe now because I
guess when he's marrying her, she's been in prison for
like ten years or something like that, so like she's
(16:12):
reformed at this point, she's understood, she gets it. She's
done documentaries in prison, like she's done interview like sixty
min interviews. So all of that stuff comes out, and
I guess you're making a somewhat informed decision. But to
me personally, I'm like, no, Like, I get you were
convicted of it, you've probably had some turnaround in prison,
(16:33):
and your story is out there. But me, I'm like,
that seems like it's still too dangerous to play with.
I don't think I'm gonna have you live in my house.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So I will say from personal experience, sometimes if.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
If you feel that.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Little about yourself and you're not having a whole lot
of luck with normal relationships, right that, I will say
that being with someone who who's in prison kind of
feels like, oh, well, they need me probably just as
much as I need them, because they have no one. Dang,
(17:12):
you know, I'm gonna believe all this stuff that they're
telling me about how they didn't commit the crime. YadA, YadA, YadA,
and maybe after spending all this time being there for them,
when they get out will live happily ever after.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's yeah, I can like as you're saying it, it's clicking,
like cause I'm watching that Ryan guy and like when
they get out, like he already has like a house, cars,
like he's got uh, he bought her a phone, He's
got everything. He And I think he said that in
an interview, like why would she go back to that dude?
Like did I mean anything? Because I built this life
for her, and I think one of the things was
(17:49):
like she she hasn't experienced life outside of prison too much,
so like she wants to go out and do stuff
and be around things and have and he's trying to
like give her like a structured life and she's like
that feels like prison to me.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Still.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's crazy because you think you're doing the right thing
and they're like, I just want to get out and
go book wild. Oh that's very strange. That's crazy. But yeah,
I don't know what are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Crazy? It gives her a place to stay when you
get out, you've got really nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Right, But I mean, like like she's supposed to be
committed as dude, like they got married and everything, but
you don't like she doesn't know.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, she doesn't know anything.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Do you think she was manipulating the situation like with
that guy, probably like just to like use it to
get out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah, I mean she grew up being manipulated, so that's.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
All she ever saw, right, is how to manipulate other people.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, so I mean she probably used it to her advantage.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah. I feel like I feel like when you watch
the interviews, especially when they clip them together, you can
see where like she's pretending like through certain stuff and
then whatever happened in the background happened, like she starts
talking to the other guy, or she got those plans
lined up and then she just switched it up on
that Ryan guy and was like, Okay, I don't need
him anymore. I'm gonna start doing this other stuff. Like
(19:09):
the manipulation had worked and she's in the other stage now,
like ready to go. It's a fascinating story. I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I think the other side of it, because I know
she had stated in a bunch of her interviews that
like her mom said that she would always be alone
and no one she wouldn't ever have anyone. So maybe
after the ex broke up with her, she was like, oh,
I got to make sure that I have someone. And
(19:39):
then her and the X started talking again, and maybe
it was, oh, well, I don't have to settle for
this guy over here, because this one wants to be
back with me. Yeah, so now I'm going to jump
back to the one that. Yeah, just making sure I'm
not alone type of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That That's another thing.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
The the husband was talking about like, oh, we were
supposed to go do this and that when we were
talking when you were still in prison, Like we were
going to go to the French Quarter, we were going
to go on these little trips and do all this
and like we live in Louisiana, we have all this
access to stuff, and we're just not doing that. And
she's like, doesn't want to be on date night. And
then like one of the first posts she did when
she was back with her other dudy because she was like,
I can't do any of those things. I don't like
(20:24):
all that stuff. I just want to be you know.
And then she went to that guy's uh, you know whatever,
and they're out like on a boat fishing and shit
like doing speedboating across the lake and she's like, this
is the best shit ever. And everybody's like, wait a minute,
you just said like you don't like they're not. It's
very strange.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
He's to feel validation and wanted.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Uh yeah, And I think I think the husband guy
was much more of like a creepy dude who was
trying to control the whole situation, and this other guy
is just like, I don't really because he doesn't want
to be on the lives. I just don't want to be.
He doesn't care about like the fame or like that.
He's just like I just I really don't care about
none of this shit, Like it's it's just whatever. I'm
not a fan of, like that we have all these
(21:03):
like millions of people watching our moves and like paparazzi
and stuff. But he just doesn't seem to really care
about all that other stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
So yeah, good for.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Him, though, I mean, I think he caught a winner.
Not really. I think it's strange. Wouldn't it be the
plot twist if one of them shows up dead, not
not just she's not gonna die, She's gonna have someone else.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Till someone else one of the guys.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, and then it was oh, he was controlling
me and want me to shave my head.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah. That which is so crazy, man, because like even now,
like you would have to you would have to think
that like at this point, she's so she understands fully
what that manipulation would look like and stuff, so she
could easily avoid it or move around it, maneuver around it, whatever,
but she'll continue to pretend like she's being manipulated instead
(21:57):
of being like, no, I'm I'm well versed sin as
I recognize it. I got myself out that situation and.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
To a little bit off topic like me being have
been in the medical field. It blows my mind that
all these doctors did all these things without substantial tests
and results, and they just went off of the mom's
word like that.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That part kind of blows my mind.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
The doctors did all of that stuff and procedures and
everything on her as a kid without any sort of
like tests or anything. Because that that that's just crazy
to me, Like that that's your medical licenses being up
(22:48):
to be taken away.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And charges pressed against you.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So it kind of blows my mind that all those
medical professionals ended up just believing and going off of
some lady's word about her child.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah did they did? They have a means back then,
And I don't know. This was like late nineties, right,
maybe early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
This is no, this was early two thousands.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, So I mean I don't think the internet was
was what it is now to be sharing all the
files and stuff. So like these medical group networks, because
it wasn't her mom just like dipping. She was doctor hopping, right, so,
like she would go to different ones and getting.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
She was she was doctor hopping. But the thing is like,
like to do procedures, especially on a kid let alone,
anyone to do medical procedures like the feeding tube like
stuff like that. Yeah, like typically in doctors, like if
they don't, I don't know about you, but like if
(23:48):
I go to a brand new doctor and I tell them, oh, yeah,
you know, I was told I need this procedure done,
They're not just going to take my word for it.
They're going to run their own set of tests right
now to verify.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah now in like twenty twenty four, right, But like
back then, you're talking about doctors who were probably not
in the best networks, and we're just looking for like
insurance payouts. Maybe. I don't know. Do you know if
any of them were ever investigated for their parts and all.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
That shit, I don't know. I would assume so because that.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It seems like they would have had to have been
on something.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Some of them would lose their licenses, because that's just
absolutely crazy to me, Like, I don't care if you
live in the middle of nowhere and you don't have
any way to communicate or reach out to any previous doctors,
Like you're going to run your own tests before you
cut into a child.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, you would at least we think hope, So yeah,
you would think so. Well all in all, I mean,
it's it's a crazy story. It gets crazier when you
go all the way back to the beginning and you
look through all of the different documentaries and little lifetime
movies and stuff. It's so strange that we got from
like where it started to how she's like going to
like red carpet premiers. She has a celebrity status at
(25:03):
this point, worth millions of dollars. Like she was able
to capitalize, like seriously capitalize on this victim persona that
was created for her by her mom. And I think
it's I think as a society, it's strange that we
celebrate that stuff because I think realistically, we should not
be putting this girl on camera and putting her in
(25:25):
front of all kinds of other people, millions of other
people to see like she needs to be probably in
a very private setting dealing with her family members and
therapy and counseling and seeing what she can do. Because again,
if you're going to give someone a platform like that
with millions of people like, you got to make sure
that it's it's good for everybody to see. Man, I
don't I mean, I don't want to silence.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Anyone, but well, but think of but think of the
different people over you know, since the early two thousands
that have gotten.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Money and become like made money off of it.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Like the one that the one that always stands out
in my mind is uh, cash me outside?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
How about that? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I love that. That's bad Bobby. I know it's baby,
But I say, Bobby, look if you put if you
put bad Baby and Woa Vicki together, I'm always team
bad Baby. Woa Vicki is that's no way that's a
real person. But yeah, that's what I'm saying. Man like
you're putting the wrong emphasis on the celebrities. I don't know,
(26:36):
but don't it's a strange case. It's worth it's worth
looking into more. And I think more people should and
I think that, you know, the truth should come out
about this celebrity, and maybe she should be humbled a
little bit, because I don't think she ever has been.
But real quick, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna
listen to some of our sponsors, commercials wherever you might be,
(26:58):
and possibly some of our ends in the podcast world.
We'll be right back and welcome back into the show.
I hope, I hope you missed us as much as
we missed you or not, I don't know. I know
Katie missed you all the most. That's what she said
when we were on bringing abste she said, I wish
they would hurry up and come back. I have a
(27:20):
question all three of us, I mean, well, yeah, all
three of us are kind of in this stage our
life where I think, for a long time we've hated
nine to five jobs and they call you know, entrepreneurship
is like the new sexy thing, and I think a
lot of us try to like break into these businesses
that do you know anything, not necessarily to become famous
(27:43):
or to become you know, like mega CEOs of our
own companies, but to just have extra income and do
something that we enjoy doing, right. So, I know, for
for me and my clan over here, we have several
of these things going on. There's like this we do
like a travel agency type thing. On the side of
our nine to five. We're in a yarn business. So
(28:04):
we make a lot of crochet and plushies and different
things that we go and we sell with the local
markets and stuff, and we have fun doing that. And
then we can make t shirts and vinyl for your
cars and stuff like we just have Like it's essentially
just buying up the tools, right, like a cricket machine
and the supplies and that kind of stuff, and then
having fun designing stuff and going after it. And I know, Danielle,
(28:26):
you have something that's kind of the same thing. A
lot of a lot of TikTok will tell you, like
you can quit your nine to five today. You can
just stop having a job right now and just go
open your own business and you can be successful and
you'll make two hundred thousand dollars a month. That is
completely false, right, And so I know I've been doing
(28:47):
these things for a long time, Like we're like six
months to a year into these things. The profitability is
very small, but again we're not going after it like
it's our main source of income. But Danielle, you've had
a lot of struggles too. What's your you and this
is your show? I mean, like plug your thing, what's
your thing called? And what do you do?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It's creations. I just make like custom everything like carn
vinyl shirts, cups, like anything that you don't see yourself making,
I make it for.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You, right, And it's it's that kind of custom work,
Like somebody can come to you and say like, hey,
I need like I have this thing in my head,
like this idea and I need it to be on
a Stanley cup, and you're like, I can make that, yeah,
and then you just go in and design it and
basically give them like a preview and then they sign
off on it and then you can you can make
(29:38):
it and get a shipped out to them.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And one of the main problems that you've had so
far is like you've invested time and money into like
because you have to learn the skill too, Like, I
do you have to Are you using a cricket?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, I use a cricket.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
I mean there's still a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I need to learn, dude, for real, me too. So
I was cutting vinyl just the other day for my car,
and how many times have you forgot to like flip
the image? Yeah? My dumb I asked, was like, how
come this is like over here? But I wasted to
supply because I had already cut it, and I'm like,
damn it, right, So you have to It's not cheap
(30:11):
and you have to like kind of learn the skill
before you just or you guys like learn it as
you go, but you have to like spend time beating
on that craft. So but one of the things that
you've run into, like you've struggled with, is that you've
got no orders. M m yeah. So I mean we're
gonna plug the shit out of this thing, so we
(30:32):
get our listeners to get some orders out there. But realistically,
I think that's something that people should know, Like you
can take time and invest in stuff and then get
into it and then it just doesn't It just doesn't happen,
or it doesn't happen right away. Yeah, Yeah, I think
it's important though, because and it's a lot of people
(30:53):
will say, oh, well, because you're not doing enough to
promote it. Well that's not true either, Like you have
a good social media presence on it, you're in the
market in it, you're putting things out there. I think
it's a I think it's a hit or miss type thing.
I'll tell you this. When we go do like the
crochet stuff, like we when we first started going these
farmers markets, we set up our little booth right and
(31:14):
we put out all of our crochet stuff on the front,
like the little plushies and like key chains and stuff
we mad, and then we put all of our T
shirts hanging up there, like all the ones we had made.
We've sold absolutely zero T shirts at the farmer's markets,
and we've had zero commissions on T shirts. But almost
every week all of our plushies and our crochet stuff
(31:34):
sell out. So we stopped taking the T shirts because
it just doesn't make any sense. I think it's because
so many people, like with crickets or whatever, just can
make their own stuff. Yeah exactly. Yeah, they're like, I
don't really need to pay for that, like it's a
good design, and then they kind of go home and
mimic it themselves or try to make it themselves, and
then they do the thing in what we did find though,
is that like and I think it would probably be
(31:56):
the same up there for you, but like we've taken
like the local stuff like you do, like the state
of Texas, and you put the city in there, like
wherever you're at, like a heart or whatever, you know,
just like a super simple, cheap design because there's a
lot of tourists here and we've gone to like the
local like mom and pop stores downtown and ben like
it would. Here's all of these shirts. Will give them
(32:17):
to you for like, you know, a dollar for whatever
you sell them for, you know what I mean. So
like they buy them for like fifty bucks and they
probably sell them for one hundred and fifty at the
not a piece, but like as a whole batch, you
know what I mean. It's just something you can go
in there and do. But I mean, I don't I
don't really remember if there's a lot of local businesses
like that where you're at. But is is it something
where you just think, like you just give up completely
(32:40):
and go back to the nine to five grind or
do you think it's it's more trial and error, like
switch it up, try something different, where's the where's the market?
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Probably, I'd say more trial and error because you have
to find something that is trending, yes, and then put
it out make it and then put.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It out there, yes, and hope that they latch onto
your thing and buy your.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Yeah, like you have to compare prices with everybody else
and like pay but still make something off of like
make income off of what you've made without taking a hit.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, You've got to have that profitability. You've got to
have that revenue stream in it. And that's that's important
for sure. I just I think that's probably the harder part.
And when you think back to like the fifties and
the sixties, they didn't have like the Internet, so you
were talking about like ad agencies like mad Men is
a great example of that. That show is crazy good
(33:37):
for that. Like you had competing cigarette companies and they
didn't have the Internet to just be like, hey, look
at all my stuff and have millions of people look
at it. They had to like pay someone to come
up with like a clever slogan and then put that
on billboards and TV commercials. And stuff so that they
get people to buy it. It's much easier to get
views now, but like to actually get someone to come
(33:57):
in and like go, oh, that's the product that want
is more difficult. I think. Yeah, yeah, So becoming the
trending thing now. I won't get into the detail, but
I know that there's other things that we've tried in
the past, like all of us for sure, those don't
(34:19):
trend as much as everybody thinks either, and those are
things that Bobby likes, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
I don't think. I think it's a huge misconception. That's
why when people talk about it, they're like, oh, I'm
this and I've got all of this going on with it.
But you have to be very serious about creating content,
just as if you're creating product to put out there,
(34:40):
and you have to be consistent. And even then, you're
not guaranteed any of the views or the likes, or
the shares or the revenue and the income, right you
know what.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I mean quite honestly, Like.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
If you're trying to switch up from your nine to
five to doing something like that, but it's going to
take a lot of time and you're still trying to balance.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Your nine to five.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
That way, you're not just jumping chip and trying to
figure out because it's not something quick. No to just
get up and going and start making a bunch of money.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Now you need money or you can make money, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You really have to have some some sort of investment capital.
And that's I think what a lot of people talk about.
It's as far as like when you're doing like what
you're doing Daniel is like you you have to use
your nine to five to create another source of income,
and then a third source of income, and then another
one so that those ones will take over that main
one and then you can just kind of focus in
(35:45):
on the ones that are you know, doing doing the
best for you. But I would say, I don't what
do you think? Like, what is your advice to anybody
who's like going out there and trying to start a
like a serious business for themselves in like the trial
and error stage? And like what is what do you think?
And are you It's two questions, I'm sorry, So what
(36:06):
is your advice to them? And then what are you? Like?
What are your thoughts on where you're at now? Are
you feeling like you're ready to keep going and push
more or what do you think?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
So definitely do your research first. Don't just jump into
it and like have the time to the time and
the money to invest into it, because I've invested so
much money into it, but I have made barely any
money at all.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I haven't had any orders.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
My mom's been the one that's coming to me for
like small things, and I've made more presents than i've
actually like made for actual projects.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Like I haven't done much.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
At all, is it? And I remember this like you
you remember the cake business up there, Yeah, so it's
it was. It is impossible to do that here certain
times of the year, like right now, that business is
shut down completely because you can make that thing and
decorate it, but taking it from uh just the kitchen
(37:08):
to the fridge in the garage to store it, it
will melt because of the humidity in Texas. Like it
just it's done. There's no way to transport them and
have them look as good as they should. So you
have to you have to kind of know that market too.
But the word of mouth part, that's a big deal
because I think most of that business once we got
(37:30):
it up and did probably the first like ten orders.
Every order after that was like return orders that was
I don't know, like your baby shower, I think was
one for sure birthdays and stuff like that. Yeah, no,
I'm saying that's that. That was a return customer situation though,
like some of the ones we did for you were
just I mean just because we already had established that,
(37:53):
And I think that's part of your your issue. Our
issue too down here is like establishing those those return
customers is a very difficult thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You know, my mom used to back when she was alive,
she got she loved thanks, she loved like sewing and
making different stuff, and she started she had her best
friend who did She was a labor or she still
(38:27):
is a labor and delivery nurse, and she was doing
birthing classes. And so my mom started making like diaper
cakes and rice bags and different stuff that would.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Pertain to that audience.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
And she was going into those classes every week, and
she wasn't making a whole lot, but she was making
enough to, you know, pay a cell phone bill one week,
pay the internet bill the next week, like at least
it was a little something.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
But she actually she was doing.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
That the old school way where she was actually going
into like she did the farmers' markets and stuff, but
she didn't really get a.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Whole lot out of the farmer's markets.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I feel like you kind of gotta build a relationship with,
you know, a physical place and like market it to
where you can actually go into that place. That owner
whoever you know, allows you to come in with your
(39:32):
merchandise and maybe give them like a little little piece
of the cut or whatnot.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, I think it's about brand image too. There's a
lot of that goes in with the brand image. People
expect a certain thing out of your product. There's a
lady that sits up next to us every Saturday and
she sells bread. It's all homemade bread or whatever. And
the market starts at nine and by eleven am she
sold out completely and people just pull up, they know
what they're getting, they get it and go and she
(40:00):
sells out like completely. But that again is like she's
just established like that word of mouth and she has
a good product to stand behind. So I think too,
I'm along with Danielle. I think that like if you're gonna,
if you're gonna put something out there, you have to
one you have to be in love with what you're
doing right, it has to be something that's like it's
a labor of love. So like if you love to
create stuff and in all kinds of different ways and you're
(40:24):
very you know, creative in that sense, then yeah, you
should be one hundred percent you should be putting that
into what you're creating. This lady bakes bread and she's
apparently really good at it, and so you should do
that and then build something that's quality, Like have something
out there that you stand behind, that you enjoy and
(40:44):
and just let it ride, you know, and see what
you can build. But I would say the same thing
to the entrepreneurs out there who I mean, even this
podcast this is this is your guys first podcast. This
is one of three that I do, none of them,
and I've been doing this for more than a year now.
We started to guys in a dart more than a
year ago. We're we've made like four dollars alpha monestization.
(41:06):
It's not something that you're just gonna get into and
all of a sudden you're the richest person and you
just can quit your job, Like you have to really
beat on that craft for a long time, you know.
But I think it's all worth it in the end,
especially if you're having fun with it, and that's more
the important thing, because you go to work and what
do you do. You don't have no fun. You're there
to work and there's people like managing you, and you
(41:28):
have like these jobs that you have to do. But
when you're like having fun and you're on task with
your own stuff and you're just enjoying what you're doing
and putting out you know, a product that you like
or a service that you like, or you know, whatever
content that you like, then you're you know, you're good
to go. You know, I think I think it pays
off in the end.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
But I figure as long as you're having fun doing
what you're doing, and you're not you're not putting out
more than you're getting in, you have some sort of
backup plan. If that's not being as lucrative, ye, then
have fun doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, for sure, for sure and most definitely. Well, all right,
let's let's call this one good. Let's get these folks
back out to whatever they're doing. They're probably going to
their jobs. They were listening to us in the car,
and now we're giving them all these ideas. All right,
keep dreaming, Keep dreaming and chase those dreams. That's what
you gotta do. Rooke one more time, let's shout it out.
(42:30):
It's on Instagram. We'll we'll tag it in our next post.
You're gonna go to at Horsely Creations.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Right, Horsely Dot Creations.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Horsely Dot Creations. It's on Instagram. Go in there, order
something and it's gonna be the most fun you've ever had.
There's all kinds of good stuff in there. Support local
businesses for sure, all the time. They're good for you.
They'll they'll give you more quality stuff than you can
find in a store anywhere. I promise that'll do it
(42:59):
for this week's episode. You guys, have anything else you
want to add or say or tell the people that
love to listen to.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Us, Keep reaching for the stars, shoot for those dreams.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
There you go, locked and loaded, shooting for the stars.
All right, Well we're out of here. Then we'll see
you guys in a couple of saturdays. Have fun doing
whatever you're doing. That's gonna be like mid August. I
can't wait to see and catch up with you guys
in mid August. And guess what, it'll still be hot
in Texas. Okay, I have a good week. Everyone will
see you guys later.
All right, welcome into this episode of the Threes Company podcast.
This is a get ready with me for Katie. She's
got places to be, so the eyeliner is going on.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is a routine. I don't know. I'm gonna ask
you guys about this because it's is this a go
anywhere situation? Because I have become way more relaxed with
when I go in public because I think I'm old
at this point, right, Like, if I'm off, I will
typically just roll out of bed, throw on shoes, and
go run errands. But like, if I have to go
anywhere serious, I'll at least take a shower and put
(00:56):
on some, like, you know, some real clothes. But is
this a whole tutorial to do every time you leave
the house or No?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So I I stopped doing makeup for several years because
I work nights, so I didn't bother doing anything. But
because I have a webinar for work today and oh
corporate people are gonna see me, I figure throwing a
(01:24):
little bit of.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Makeup, got it? So you got it? You're essentially getting
ready for work work from home type situation today.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
No, I actually got to go in for an hour
and a half and try to sneak on out before
anyone sees me and try to keeps me there longer.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
That's gross. Nobody wants to go in for now. What
about you, Danielle? Are you? Are you just like you
gotta have it all done up before you just run
to the store real quick, or you're just like fuck it,
we're out of here.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't get the fuck make up on. Rarely do
I put makeup on.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think that it's I think that's probably more common nowadays.
Maybe maybe not more common, but like as I get older,
I just notice it. Like I used to remember at work,
when we'd be at work down on and be like,
why don't those people get dressed? They just like come
in here and shop. I think it was just that,
like Wi Fi, why even bother? At this point, I'm
here for milk.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And I'll put it on.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's like I got something going on. But most of
the time, like I don't, I don't wear makeup.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, I typically don't wear a lot of makeup either.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Don't get me wrong. When I run to the grocery store,
which is like two blocks away, half the time, I'm
wearing my slippers that have thick soles.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, not even a bra. Oh oh oh damn.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's what I'm saying, Like, uh see, and that's that's
me too. I typically just run in the crock flops
with no bra either, because I don't want to have
to go through all the you know what I mean,
it's a lot to put it all on and everything,
and then who am I trying to impress? Just let
it out? Who cares?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Gotta let them titties free.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
That's right. I'm thirty. I I ain't trying to catch
no man anymore. Just let them out. Okay. Well, it
has been two weeks now since we've sat down and
talk to all of our listeners. What has been new
and exciting in uh Nevada? First? What's going on in Nevada?
(03:17):
Anything exciting over there?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Not really. We've had some smoke from the fires going around.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But there's another fire. Oh, there was a huge one,
of course there was.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Where's it at in California?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Of course it was.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It was like I think it was.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Like over forty acres or something forty five hundred, I
don't remember.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Is it the one in Yosemite? I think it was,
or that was something else for like.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
The I can't remember where exactly, but then there's some
like outside Reno.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, some closer ones. Okay, well yeah, I mean that's
typical of you know, the time of year. There's always
some freaking wildfire raging around, just fucking up the things.
It's just where that whole area sits in that jet stream, right,
It's just you get all that smoke and nonsense. But well,
that's good to know that that's still happening up there.
How about how about Phoenix? What's going on down there?
(04:13):
In the one hundred and thirteen degrees that I saw?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
It feels like you're singing in the middle of a fire.
And then you get the.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Random bouts of thunderstorms.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I think there's even supposed to be one today. So
then it just makes it humid. But you're used to humid.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh yeah, I'm all for getting thunderstorms a lot too.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh so you're the ones that are keeping them away
from here, because I'm trying to get my own and
I can't get a break because they're all over there
with you too. That's nice, that's nice. Go ahead and
return to Cender. Those are mine.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Nice technically, Arizona technically right now, it's a.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What's it called, uh, monsoon season?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Monsoon season.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, but we haven't had really much of anything for
Monson's last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, I think now that I'm older, you see a pattern,
Like everybody says, oh, it's monsoon season, and then it
doesn't happen, and then after like five years, all of
a sudden, it happens again, like a cycle that happened
in Vegas not too long ago. They have flooded out.
They had to get all the homeless people out of
the tunnels and stuff because they were going to die. Yeah,
that's crazy. Oh, there's secret underground cities in Las Vegas.
(05:26):
You guys know that, right, You got to look that up.
You got to look that you Yeah, you've never been.
You live like twenty minutes away from it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Eight hours away from it, which.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Is pretty much twenty minutes if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Oh yeah, it's just glorified Reno. I'll just go to Reno.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I think Reno is glorified Vegas. That's the copy and paste.
But Vegas is much more than a Reno. I mean,
it's there's a lot of cool shit there, but underneath
the strip, Yeah, for sure, there's all kinds of like
tunnel systems and everything that they built and the infrastructure
and never use it. And now there's like homeless people
like molemen living down there. That's a real thing. They
had documentaries on it. There's like camera cters that went
(06:05):
down there and like hung out with those people. Very
very strange, very strange.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I go through it, but I've never gone and hung
out there.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, now driving through it you get to see it,
but I mean like looking and like going in it
and seeing it and really like look at what the
neighborhoods and stuff aar too. There's some of the best.
They're like rated the safest neighborhoods in the US, some
of them around Las Vegas. So it's it's not.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I mean it is, but it's too big, it's gross
many people.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, if you're if you're there for certain things, it's nice.
If you're living in certain areas, it's nice. But then otherwise, yeah,
you're in you're in like a lot of a lot
of crazy people stuff. But that's nice. That's good. Much
like Texas, which we no one likes. So there's that. Okay,
I have I have something I wanted to I want
(06:56):
to talk to you guys about this. I had a
brief conversation with someone else about it, not very I
guess because they've already kind of like dealt with it
and it's very ongoing. But you guys are both murder
mystery people, and I want to know your takes each
on this. This popularity around Gypsy Rose Blanchard. This chick
(07:16):
is blown up my TikTok feed and the entire case
is just wildly It's just strange. Like I think she's
a master manipulator. I think she was totally guilty of
a lot of shit, and somehow we're like as a society,
like giving her millions of dollars for her story. I'm like, dude,
she killed her mom.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's crazy ethnically, she had the boyfriend kill her mom.
But I think the reason that people are kind of
more on her side is because what her mom did
to her growing up like that, that itself is crazy.
That'll I'll mess with anyone's head, especially growing up that way.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, is it is it Munchauser syndrome? Is that what
it's it called?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I is it Munchausen syndrome.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Takes something to do with munchkins. I don't know, but yeah,
I think I know it like the boyfriend actually did
the killing or allegedly right, because she says she was
locked in the bathroom, but like the lock is on
the inside, so she couldn't possibly be locked in there
or anything. But uh, the whole thing is strange, like
the way like I don't know, do you know, like
when she how old was she when she killed? When
(08:25):
she killed her mom? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think I want to say she was like twenty two.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, her mom.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Her mom had her believe that she was several years
younger than she actually was.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, so the world believes, like in the in the
perception of the documentaries in like the Lifetime movies, that
she was like fifteen or sixteen. She was actually twenty three,
almost twenty four, and she believed she was nineteen. Fucking wild.
I mean, as damaged as you have to be from
all of that stuff, Like you still, at some point
(09:00):
in my mind I was like, even if you think
you're nineteen, like you're an adult, Like wouldn't you reach
out to some kind of like resources or something. Because
she was smart enough to get a phone and like
call other people and like deal with this dude, like
she couldn't have like called somebody else, reached out to
her other family.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, from my understanding, she she didn't think she had
any family that wanted anything to do with her. I
don't think she had seen her dad since I want
to say she was like nine or ten or something.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's great, that's just nuts. I don't And I guess
in all of this stuff, like I've watched and read
and stuff like, I never understood the mom's motive behind it,
just to like get free.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Shit or attention and free stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And that's it, Like there's no other like that's that's
like that's crazy in itself, just that anyway from a
from like a because to me, it's still a mystery,
like it's a murder mystery. Like everyone went to jail
and got out and everything, but well except the dude.
How long is the dude there forever?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I was gonna say, I think the dude ended up
getting life. I can't. I can't remember, Danielle, can you remember?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I think he's done forever because he's the one that
can uh uh confessed to doing the whole thing because
he was trying to save her and everything. But what
I find strange is like, I don't know of any
other like murderer or case like this where they get
out of jail and they're well prison, she's out of prison,
(10:39):
potentially going back to prison for violating some shit, but
like they're not. Nobody's ever like got out of jail
and been hailed as such a like a reality like star,
like an icon. Like there's there's millions of people that
follow her social media's and cheer her on and everything,
And I'm like, how to me, that's the manipulation. She's
been manipulating people forever, and now she's manipulated millions of
(11:00):
people into thinking that she's like some sort of like
super victim.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, she turned into her mom, right.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's why. Right, isn't that strange? Like because her mom
would have wanted her to be in that limelight so
that her mom could reap all the benefits, right, and
now she's getting all that, like she's worth like three
zero point five million or something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, I mean that's all she knows.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, Yeah, she only knows how to manipulate people in
situations and get these things. When she's missing certain criteria,
she changes the script on it and everything. I don't
know what I another. Like, it's fascinating to me because
it speaks to like other people's mindsets, like the dude
that married her in prison, right, because there was one
(11:45):
guy that she was going to be married to and
then he left her while she was in prison. And
then the dude marries her while she's in prison, and
then he's the guy that when she gets out, he's there,
and that dude is incredibly weird to watch the what's
that guy? Ryan, the big.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Dude, the big one.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, Like people are clipping together just all of his
like cringiest moments on tiktoon and they're fantastic to watch
because you're like, dude, that guy is really kind of weird,
Like he's super creepy. He's trying to control a lot
of stuff. He like takes her phone away from her
and stuff, and it's like, dude, she didn't even know
how to use that thing. Why are you like taking
it from her? Like she's doing some shit.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, from what I understood, wasn't she cheating on the
bigger dude with her ex r That's.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Where it goes. Yeah, she the guy that was going
to marry her and then left after she gets out
and she's married, she has to go to like Louisiana
or something because that's where the guy lives. And then she,
through her family, ends up talking to the guy that
left her when she was in prison, and she's like
still in love with him and all this other stuff
(12:51):
or like you can tell it, like it looks very fabricated.
And then now she's pregnant by that dude. But she's
in the middle of a divorce. But Louisiana has like
very strict divorce laws, like you're you are required to
live apart from each other for like thirty thirty ninety
(13:11):
days something like that, three months, and then you can
file for divorce and in those but then but you're
not allowed to like do anything. You're not allowed to
commit any crime against your spouse in those three months,
Like you're not supposed to stock or you know, commit
(13:32):
any kind of domestic situation or anything like that, because
then that that would forfeit anything in your divorce proceedings.
Like if you're like going after them for like alimony
and money and stuff they do, well, now you committed
a crime against them, and so you don't get any
of that stuff. So there's like all these weird like
strict laws. Well, adultery is one of those things, like
you're not allowed to commit adultery against your spouse while
(13:54):
you're in this divorce thing. And she's totally yeah, well
she's pregnant by the other guy, which means she totally
committed it. And I think it's considered a crime, which
means she committed a new crime. And they're like violating
her parole on it. That's kind of what they were
talking about. It was a crime, it's a new crime.
She's on proa she's not allowed to commit crimes, so boom,
(14:15):
she could go back to prison now for that, for
getting pregnant. Like, oh, that's crazy, that's insane to me
to think that. But again, like here's here's the dude,
Like why their mindsets triped me out, because like you
already like if I'm the guy that married her when
she was still in prison, like that's a whole murderer. Like, however,
you look at that case, even if you believe that
(14:37):
she was like a victim who was locked in the
bathroom while her boyfriend murdered her mom, like she was
still like she was convicted of being involved in that right, Like,
so all of the jury, all of the people. Yeah,
she admitted to like help setting it up. Like, so
that's already like a thing, and you're gonna tell me that.
You're like, Okay, here's someone who's like totally capable of
(14:58):
having other people kill people that she doesn't like. I
think I should marry with that lady and have her
live in my house with me. I don't mean to
be striking a personal nerve there, but you're I just
realized what I was talking about. Well I'm like, oh shit, sorry,
well okay, well so you have some insight on that.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Sorry, go ahead, Well technically.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
My my situation, my ex husband didn't kill anyone.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yes, But I guess if you.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
If you truly believe, at least at that time, you're
that naive to truly believe that, even though the evidence
is stacked against this person and they got convicted of it,
if you convince yourself that no, there's no way they
could have done that, I see what a great person
(15:49):
this is.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah. So that's that's the thought process, right. Yeah, So
you're truly in the belief that this person is innocent
of the crime that they've actually been convicted of. Or
at least in a sense that maybe now because I
guess when he's marrying her, she's been in prison for
like ten years or something like that, so like she's
(16:12):
reformed at this point, she's understood, she gets it. She's
done documentaries in prison, like she's done interview like sixty
min interviews. So all of that stuff comes out, and
I guess you're making a somewhat informed decision. But to
me personally, I'm like, no, Like, I get you were
convicted of it, you've probably had some turnaround in prison,
(16:33):
and your story is out there. But me, I'm like,
that seems like it's still too dangerous to play with.
I don't think I'm gonna have you live in my house.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So I will say from personal experience, sometimes if.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
If you feel that.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Little about yourself and you're not having a whole lot
of luck with normal relationships, right that, I will say
that being with someone who who's in prison kind of
feels like, oh, well, they need me probably just as
much as I need them, because they have no one. Dang,
(17:12):
you know, I'm gonna believe all this stuff that they're
telling me about how they didn't commit the crime. YadA, YadA, YadA,
and maybe after spending all this time being there for them,
when they get out will live happily ever after.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's yeah, I can like as you're saying it, it's clicking,
like cause I'm watching that Ryan guy and like when
they get out, like he already has like a house, cars,
like he's got uh, he bought her a phone, He's
got everything. He And I think he said that in
an interview, like why would she go back to that dude?
Like did I mean anything? Because I built this life
for her, and I think one of the things was
(17:49):
like she she hasn't experienced life outside of prison too much,
so like she wants to go out and do stuff
and be around things and have and he's trying to
like give her like a structured life and she's like
that feels like prison to me.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Still.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's crazy because you think you're doing the right thing
and they're like, I just want to get out and
go book wild. Oh that's very strange. That's crazy. But yeah,
I don't know what are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Crazy? It gives her a place to stay when you
get out, you've got really nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Right, But I mean, like like she's supposed to be
committed as dude, like they got married and everything, but
you don't like she doesn't know.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, she doesn't know anything.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Do you think she was manipulating the situation like with
that guy, probably like just to like use it to
get out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah, I mean she grew up being manipulated, so that's.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
All she ever saw, right, is how to manipulate other people.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, so I mean she probably used it to her advantage.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah. I feel like I feel like when you watch
the interviews, especially when they clip them together, you can
see where like she's pretending like through certain stuff and
then whatever happened in the background happened, like she starts
talking to the other guy, or she got those plans
lined up and then she just switched it up on
that Ryan guy and was like, Okay, I don't need
him anymore. I'm gonna start doing this other stuff. Like
(19:09):
the manipulation had worked and she's in the other stage now,
like ready to go. It's a fascinating story. I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I think the other side of it, because I know
she had stated in a bunch of her interviews that
like her mom said that she would always be alone
and no one she wouldn't ever have anyone. So maybe
after the ex broke up with her, she was like, oh,
I got to make sure that I have someone. And
(19:39):
then her and the X started talking again, and maybe
it was, oh, well, I don't have to settle for
this guy over here, because this one wants to be
back with me. Yeah, so now I'm going to jump
back to the one that. Yeah, just making sure I'm
not alone type of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That That's another thing.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
The the husband was talking about like, oh, we were
supposed to go do this and that when we were
talking when you were still in prison, Like we were
going to go to the French Quarter, we were going
to go on these little trips and do all this
and like we live in Louisiana, we have all this
access to stuff, and we're just not doing that. And
she's like, doesn't want to be on date night. And
then like one of the first posts she did when
she was back with her other dudy because she was like,
I can't do any of those things. I don't like
(20:24):
all that stuff. I just want to be you know.
And then she went to that guy's uh, you know whatever,
and they're out like on a boat fishing and shit
like doing speedboating across the lake and she's like, this
is the best shit ever. And everybody's like, wait a minute,
you just said like you don't like they're not. It's
very strange.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
He's to feel validation and wanted.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Uh yeah, And I think I think the husband guy
was much more of like a creepy dude who was
trying to control the whole situation, and this other guy
is just like, I don't really because he doesn't want
to be on the lives. I just don't want to be.
He doesn't care about like the fame or like that.
He's just like I just I really don't care about
none of this shit, Like it's it's just whatever. I'm
not a fan of, like that we have all these
(21:03):
like millions of people watching our moves and like paparazzi
and stuff. But he just doesn't seem to really care
about all that other stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
So yeah, good for.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Him, though, I mean, I think he caught a winner.
Not really. I think it's strange. Wouldn't it be the
plot twist if one of them shows up dead, not
not just she's not gonna die, She's gonna have someone else.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Till someone else one of the guys.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, and then it was oh, he was controlling
me and want me to shave my head.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah. That which is so crazy, man, because like even now,
like you would have to you would have to think
that like at this point, she's so she understands fully
what that manipulation would look like and stuff, so she
could easily avoid it or move around it, maneuver around it, whatever,
but she'll continue to pretend like she's being manipulated instead
(21:57):
of being like, no, I'm I'm well versed sin as
I recognize it. I got myself out that situation and.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
To a little bit off topic like me being have
been in the medical field. It blows my mind that
all these doctors did all these things without substantial tests
and results, and they just went off of the mom's
word like that.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That part kind of blows my mind.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
The doctors did all of that stuff and procedures and
everything on her as a kid without any sort of
like tests or anything. Because that that that's just crazy
to me, Like that that's your medical licenses being up
(22:48):
to be taken away.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And charges pressed against you.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So it kind of blows my mind that all those
medical professionals ended up just believing and going off of
some lady's word about her child.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah did they did? They have a means back then,
And I don't know. This was like late nineties, right,
maybe early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
This is no, this was early two thousands.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, So I mean I don't think the internet was
was what it is now to be sharing all the
files and stuff. So like these medical group networks, because
it wasn't her mom just like dipping. She was doctor hopping, right, so,
like she would go to different ones and getting.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
She was she was doctor hopping. But the thing is like,
like to do procedures, especially on a kid let alone,
anyone to do medical procedures like the feeding tube like
stuff like that. Yeah, like typically in doctors, like if
they don't, I don't know about you, but like if
(23:48):
I go to a brand new doctor and I tell them, oh, yeah,
you know, I was told I need this procedure done,
They're not just going to take my word for it.
They're going to run their own set of tests right
now to verify.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah now in like twenty twenty four, right, But like
back then, you're talking about doctors who were probably not
in the best networks, and we're just looking for like
insurance payouts. Maybe. I don't know. Do you know if
any of them were ever investigated for their parts and all.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
That shit, I don't know. I would assume so because that.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It seems like they would have had to have been
on something.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Some of them would lose their licenses, because that's just
absolutely crazy to me, Like, I don't care if you
live in the middle of nowhere and you don't have
any way to communicate or reach out to any previous doctors,
Like you're going to run your own tests before you
cut into a child.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, you would at least we think hope, So yeah,
you would think so. Well all in all, I mean,
it's it's a crazy story. It gets crazier when you
go all the way back to the beginning and you
look through all of the different documentaries and little lifetime
movies and stuff. It's so strange that we got from
like where it started to how she's like going to
like red carpet premiers. She has a celebrity status at
(25:03):
this point, worth millions of dollars. Like she was able
to capitalize, like seriously capitalize on this victim persona that
was created for her by her mom. And I think
it's I think as a society, it's strange that we
celebrate that stuff because I think realistically, we should not
be putting this girl on camera and putting her in
(25:25):
front of all kinds of other people, millions of other
people to see like she needs to be probably in
a very private setting dealing with her family members and
therapy and counseling and seeing what she can do. Because again,
if you're going to give someone a platform like that
with millions of people like, you got to make sure
that it's it's good for everybody to see. Man, I
don't I mean, I don't want to silence.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Anyone, but well, but think of but think of the
different people over you know, since the early two thousands
that have gotten.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Money and become like made money off of it.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Like the one that the one that always stands out
in my mind is uh, cash me outside?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
How about that? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I love that. That's bad Bobby. I know it's baby,
But I say, Bobby, look if you put if you
put bad Baby and Woa Vicki together, I'm always team
bad Baby. Woa Vicki is that's no way that's a
real person. But yeah, that's what I'm saying. Man like
you're putting the wrong emphasis on the celebrities. I don't know,
(26:36):
but don't it's a strange case. It's worth it's worth
looking into more. And I think more people should and
I think that, you know, the truth should come out
about this celebrity, and maybe she should be humbled a
little bit, because I don't think she ever has been.
But real quick, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna
listen to some of our sponsors, commercials wherever you might be,
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and possibly some of our ends in the podcast world.
We'll be right back and welcome back into the show.
I hope, I hope you missed us as much as
we missed you or not, I don't know. I know
Katie missed you all the most. That's what she said
when we were on bringing abste she said, I wish
they would hurry up and come back. I have a
(27:20):
question all three of us, I mean, well, yeah, all
three of us are kind of in this stage our
life where I think, for a long time we've hated
nine to five jobs and they call you know, entrepreneurship
is like the new sexy thing, and I think a
lot of us try to like break into these businesses
that do you know anything, not necessarily to become famous
(27:43):
or to become you know, like mega CEOs of our
own companies, but to just have extra income and do
something that we enjoy doing, right. So, I know, for
for me and my clan over here, we have several
of these things going on. There's like this we do
like a travel agency type thing. On the side of
our nine to five. We're in a yarn business. So
(28:04):
we make a lot of crochet and plushies and different
things that we go and we sell with the local
markets and stuff, and we have fun doing that. And
then we can make t shirts and vinyl for your
cars and stuff like we just have Like it's essentially
just buying up the tools, right, like a cricket machine
and the supplies and that kind of stuff, and then
having fun designing stuff and going after it. And I know, Danielle,
(28:26):
you have something that's kind of the same thing. A
lot of a lot of TikTok will tell you, like
you can quit your nine to five today. You can
just stop having a job right now and just go
open your own business and you can be successful and
you'll make two hundred thousand dollars a month. That is
completely false, right, And so I know I've been doing
(28:47):
these things for a long time, Like we're like six
months to a year into these things. The profitability is
very small, but again we're not going after it like
it's our main source of income. But Danielle, you've had
a lot of struggles too. What's your you and this
is your show? I mean, like plug your thing, what's
your thing called? And what do you do?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It's creations. I just make like custom everything like carn
vinyl shirts, cups, like anything that you don't see yourself making,
I make it for.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You, right, And it's it's that kind of custom work,
Like somebody can come to you and say like, hey,
I need like I have this thing in my head,
like this idea and I need it to be on
a Stanley cup, and you're like, I can make that, yeah,
and then you just go in and design it and
basically give them like a preview and then they sign
off on it and then you can you can make
(29:38):
it and get a shipped out to them.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And one of the main problems that you've had so
far is like you've invested time and money into like
because you have to learn the skill too, Like, I
do you have to Are you using a cricket?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, I use a cricket.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
I mean there's still a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I need to learn, dude, for real, me too. So
I was cutting vinyl just the other day for my car,
and how many times have you forgot to like flip
the image? Yeah? My dumb I asked, was like, how
come this is like over here? But I wasted to
supply because I had already cut it, and I'm like,
damn it, right, So you have to It's not cheap
(30:11):
and you have to like kind of learn the skill
before you just or you guys like learn it as
you go, but you have to like spend time beating
on that craft. So but one of the things that
you've run into, like you've struggled with, is that you've
got no orders. M m yeah. So I mean we're
gonna plug the shit out of this thing, so we
(30:32):
get our listeners to get some orders out there. But realistically,
I think that's something that people should know, Like you
can take time and invest in stuff and then get
into it and then it just doesn't It just doesn't happen,
or it doesn't happen right away. Yeah, Yeah, I think
it's important though, because and it's a lot of people
(30:53):
will say, oh, well, because you're not doing enough to
promote it. Well that's not true either, Like you have
a good social media presence on it, you're in the
market in it, you're putting things out there. I think
it's a I think it's a hit or miss type thing.
I'll tell you this. When we go do like the
crochet stuff, like we when we first started going these
farmers markets, we set up our little booth right and
(31:14):
we put out all of our crochet stuff on the front,
like the little plushies and like key chains and stuff
we mad, and then we put all of our T
shirts hanging up there, like all the ones we had made.
We've sold absolutely zero T shirts at the farmer's markets,
and we've had zero commissions on T shirts. But almost
every week all of our plushies and our crochet stuff
(31:34):
sell out. So we stopped taking the T shirts because
it just doesn't make any sense. I think it's because
so many people, like with crickets or whatever, just can
make their own stuff. Yeah exactly. Yeah, they're like, I
don't really need to pay for that, like it's a
good design, and then they kind of go home and
mimic it themselves or try to make it themselves, and
then they do the thing in what we did find though,
is that like and I think it would probably be
(31:56):
the same up there for you, but like we've taken
like the local stuff like you do, like the state
of Texas, and you put the city in there, like
wherever you're at, like a heart or whatever, you know,
just like a super simple, cheap design because there's a
lot of tourists here and we've gone to like the
local like mom and pop stores downtown and ben like
it would. Here's all of these shirts. Will give them
(32:17):
to you for like, you know, a dollar for whatever
you sell them for, you know what I mean. So
like they buy them for like fifty bucks and they
probably sell them for one hundred and fifty at the
not a piece, but like as a whole batch, you
know what I mean. It's just something you can go
in there and do. But I mean, I don't I
don't really remember if there's a lot of local businesses
like that where you're at. But is is it something
where you just think, like you just give up completely
(32:40):
and go back to the nine to five grind or
do you think it's it's more trial and error, like
switch it up, try something different, where's the where's the market?
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Probably, I'd say more trial and error because you have
to find something that is trending, yes, and then put
it out make it and then put.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It out there, yes, and hope that they latch onto
your thing and buy your.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Yeah, like you have to compare prices with everybody else
and like pay but still make something off of like
make income off of what you've made without taking a hit.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, You've got to have that profitability. You've got to
have that revenue stream in it. And that's that's important
for sure. I just I think that's probably the harder part.
And when you think back to like the fifties and
the sixties, they didn't have like the Internet, so you
were talking about like ad agencies like mad Men is
a great example of that. That show is crazy good
(33:37):
for that. Like you had competing cigarette companies and they
didn't have the Internet to just be like, hey, look
at all my stuff and have millions of people look
at it. They had to like pay someone to come
up with like a clever slogan and then put that
on billboards and TV commercials. And stuff so that they
get people to buy it. It's much easier to get
views now, but like to actually get someone to come
(33:57):
in and like go, oh, that's the product that want
is more difficult. I think. Yeah, yeah, So becoming the
trending thing now. I won't get into the detail, but
I know that there's other things that we've tried in
the past, like all of us for sure, those don't
(34:19):
trend as much as everybody thinks either, and those are
things that Bobby likes, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
I don't think. I think it's a huge misconception. That's
why when people talk about it, they're like, oh, I'm
this and I've got all of this going on with it.
But you have to be very serious about creating content,
just as if you're creating product to put out there,
(34:40):
and you have to be consistent. And even then, you're
not guaranteed any of the views or the likes, or
the shares or the revenue and the income, right you
know what.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I mean quite honestly, Like.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
If you're trying to switch up from your nine to
five to doing something like that, but it's going to
take a lot of time and you're still trying to balance.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Your nine to five.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
That way, you're not just jumping chip and trying to
figure out because it's not something quick. No to just
get up and going and start making a bunch of money.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Now you need money or you can make money, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You really have to have some some sort of investment capital.
And that's I think what a lot of people talk about.
It's as far as like when you're doing like what
you're doing Daniel is like you you have to use
your nine to five to create another source of income,
and then a third source of income, and then another
one so that those ones will take over that main
one and then you can just kind of focus in
(35:45):
on the ones that are you know, doing doing the
best for you. But I would say, I don't what
do you think? Like, what is your advice to anybody
who's like going out there and trying to start a
like a serious business for themselves in like the trial
and error stage? And like what is what do you think?
And are you It's two questions, I'm sorry, So what
(36:06):
is your advice to them? And then what are you? Like?
What are your thoughts on where you're at now? Are
you feeling like you're ready to keep going and push
more or what do you think?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
So definitely do your research first. Don't just jump into
it and like have the time to the time and
the money to invest into it, because I've invested so
much money into it, but I have made barely any
money at all.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I haven't had any orders.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
My mom's been the one that's coming to me for
like small things, and I've made more presents than i've
actually like made for actual projects.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Like I haven't done much.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
At all, is it? And I remember this like you
you remember the cake business up there, Yeah, so it's
it was. It is impossible to do that here certain
times of the year, like right now, that business is
shut down completely because you can make that thing and
decorate it, but taking it from uh just the kitchen
(37:08):
to the fridge in the garage to store it, it
will melt because of the humidity in Texas. Like it
just it's done. There's no way to transport them and
have them look as good as they should. So you
have to you have to kind of know that market too.
But the word of mouth part, that's a big deal
because I think most of that business once we got
(37:30):
it up and did probably the first like ten orders.
Every order after that was like return orders that was
I don't know, like your baby shower, I think was
one for sure birthdays and stuff like that. Yeah, no,
I'm saying that's that. That was a return customer situation though,
like some of the ones we did for you were
just I mean just because we already had established that,
(37:53):
And I think that's part of your your issue. Our
issue too down here is like establishing those those return
customers is a very difficult thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You know, my mom used to back when she was alive,
she got she loved thanks, she loved like sewing and
making different stuff, and she started she had her best
friend who did She was a labor or she still
(38:27):
is a labor and delivery nurse, and she was doing
birthing classes. And so my mom started making like diaper
cakes and rice bags and different stuff that would.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Pertain to that audience.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
And she was going into those classes every week, and
she wasn't making a whole lot, but she was making
enough to, you know, pay a cell phone bill one week,
pay the internet bill the next week, like at least
it was a little something.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
But she actually she was doing.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
That the old school way where she was actually going
into like she did the farmers' markets and stuff, but
she didn't really get a.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Whole lot out of the farmer's markets.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I feel like you kind of gotta build a relationship with,
you know, a physical place and like market it to
where you can actually go into that place. That owner
whoever you know, allows you to come in with your
(39:32):
merchandise and maybe give them like a little little piece
of the cut or whatnot.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, I think it's about brand image too. There's a
lot of that goes in with the brand image. People
expect a certain thing out of your product. There's a
lady that sits up next to us every Saturday and
she sells bread. It's all homemade bread or whatever. And
the market starts at nine and by eleven am she
sold out completely and people just pull up, they know
what they're getting, they get it and go and she
(40:00):
sells out like completely. But that again is like she's
just established like that word of mouth and she has
a good product to stand behind. So I think too,
I'm along with Danielle. I think that like if you're gonna,
if you're gonna put something out there, you have to
one you have to be in love with what you're
doing right, it has to be something that's like it's
a labor of love. So like if you love to
create stuff and in all kinds of different ways and you're
(40:24):
very you know, creative in that sense, then yeah, you
should be one hundred percent you should be putting that
into what you're creating. This lady bakes bread and she's
apparently really good at it, and so you should do
that and then build something that's quality, Like have something
out there that you stand behind, that you enjoy and
(40:44):
and just let it ride, you know, and see what
you can build. But I would say the same thing
to the entrepreneurs out there who I mean, even this
podcast this is this is your guys first podcast. This
is one of three that I do, none of them,
and I've been doing this for more than a year now.
We started to guys in a dart more than a
year ago. We're we've made like four dollars alpha monestization.
(41:06):
It's not something that you're just gonna get into and
all of a sudden you're the richest person and you
just can quit your job, Like you have to really
beat on that craft for a long time, you know.
But I think it's all worth it in the end,
especially if you're having fun with it, and that's more
the important thing, because you go to work and what
do you do. You don't have no fun. You're there
to work and there's people like managing you, and you
(41:28):
have like these jobs that you have to do. But
when you're like having fun and you're on task with
your own stuff and you're just enjoying what you're doing
and putting out you know, a product that you like
or a service that you like, or you know, whatever
content that you like, then you're you know, you're good
to go. You know, I think I think it pays
off in the end.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
But I figure as long as you're having fun doing
what you're doing, and you're not you're not putting out
more than you're getting in, you have some sort of
backup plan. If that's not being as lucrative, ye, then
have fun doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, for sure, for sure and most definitely. Well, all right,
let's let's call this one good. Let's get these folks
back out to whatever they're doing. They're probably going to
their jobs. They were listening to us in the car,
and now we're giving them all these ideas. All right,
keep dreaming, Keep dreaming and chase those dreams. That's what
you gotta do. Rooke one more time, let's shout it out.
(42:30):
It's on Instagram. We'll we'll tag it in our next post.
You're gonna go to at Horsely Creations.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Right, Horsely Dot Creations.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Horsely Dot Creations. It's on Instagram. Go in there, order
something and it's gonna be the most fun you've ever had.
There's all kinds of good stuff in there. Support local
businesses for sure, all the time. They're good for you.
They'll they'll give you more quality stuff than you can
find in a store anywhere. I promise that'll do it
(42:59):
for this week's episode. You guys, have anything else you
want to add or say or tell the people that
love to listen to.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Us, Keep reaching for the stars, shoot for those dreams.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
There you go, locked and loaded, shooting for the stars.
All right, Well we're out of here. Then we'll see
you guys in a couple of saturdays. Have fun doing
whatever you're doing. That's gonna be like mid August. I
can't wait to see and catch up with you guys
in mid August. And guess what, it'll still be hot
in Texas. Okay, I have a good week. Everyone will
see you guys later.
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