Episode 3- Chest, Neck and Hands

In this episode, Laura Shryock and I talk about the neck, chest and hand areas that can be treated.

Episode Transcript

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Hello everyone, and welcome back tothe third episode of The Indiana Botox Babe.
My name is Doug has and wehave Laura Shryock, who is an
rn BSN in a dual sert botoxprofessional who I'm really just kind of co
piloting this with her in this process. And Laura, welcome to your show.

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Yes, thank you, Doug.Yes, Doug's learning a lot about
botox and dermal fillers, absolutely morethan I ever thought I would want or
need to know. But you know, we were kind of talking a little
bit off the air, Laura andjust kind of give your audience a little
bit of a backstory why I'm herein terms of this. Obviously I bring

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no expertise to the table when itcomes to botox, but there's something that
you wanted to do to really kindof reach some new markets, some new
individuals, and I have had somepodcasts and I'm just kind of hoping you
along in the process. Sounds great, Doug. Yes, I think I
wouldn't have known where to start.And when you reached out and said,

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you know, I think this wouldbe a different avenue for me to get
into, that was very promising forme because I thought I don't know how
I would do this, but greatadvertising, great marketing, like you said,
and then also just knowledge based oneducation for our listeners. Oh.
Absolutely, And it's been fun.I've learned a lot in the process of

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botox, more than I ever thoughtI would know when it comes to this,
But it's really been fun and reallybeen an educational experience for me.
You know, in the past,we've been talking about different aspects of botox,
and I believe today we're going tokind of continue to work down the
body. We're going to be hittingon three key areas the neck, the
chest, and hands in this particularepisode when it comes to them to botox.

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So Laura, I'm going to kindof turn it over to you and
we'll break it down into the threedifferent categories. And we've been working from
our forehead all the way down toour chin. Now we're ready for the
neck area. Why is in whatareas of the neck is open frutable yet
work well? I mean I'm suremost women would be like, yes,

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open game, can you fix allof this? Which sometimes you know,
we have to go through that andeducate as far as how that goes.
I think the best thing is,you know, episode two, we pretty
much covered most of the face.I think I didn't quite touch on the
ear lobes. You can also treatyour ear lobes, and that's probably as
far back on the face that Iwould go. But when we go to

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the neck region, a lot ofthem. We were talking about muscles in
the face. When you go tothe neck region, you're you're doing subdermal.
That was kind of like under theeyes when I talked about subdermal.
It takes a little bit longer foryou to see those results. And then
you're treating that subdermally with botox,and then we'll get into some fillers too,

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and how you can dilute it andtreat that one on our next maybe
on this episode a little bit andinto our fourth episode absolutely so we can
kind of just give you that fulleducation, hopefully from the head to the
nipple line and those hands. Sothat's that's our goal, I guess.
So we were talking about the neck, and I assume that you know,
there's as many muscles in the neckas there is in the face, and

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you have to be very careful againyou're doing subdermally. So that's just those
think about the layers of skin,and so you're basically just hitting on those
top layers of skin. So withthe neck, it's real creepy typically when
they want that treated, so Iwould say necklace lines, and so that
gives you a good visual by words, right, necklace lines is a lot

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of times what ladies have that theyreally want to focus on. So then
those would be horizontal lines running youknow around the neck. You can treat
those again, minimal units is alwayswhat I always start off with to see
how that works. It gets intocost really on the neck because that's a
large region and you're gonna treat aboutan inch apart. So if you have

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a necklace line that's running all theway, I'm just gonna say, you
know, basically from ear to ear, then you would go about one inch
in that necklace ligne all the wayacross with about two inches per inch.
So you're gonna pinch that skin againbecause that's creepy and soft, and you're
doing those it's subdermally, so you'repinching that skin and treating each of those

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areas. That's where as you addthose two's up, right, then that's
gonna get your your cost in there. Then you can if you flex your
muscles and you you have those corrugators, right, those elongated areas of the
neck that sometimes are predominant I thinkin older ladies, thinner lady sometimes and

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very muscular ladies, you know,as they're doing weights and stuff, will
will create more lineage, is whatwe're gonna say. And those downward areas,
so then you're actually you can actuallytreat those those those corridors, yeah,
corrugators. So then you're just basicallypinching that as it tightens up in
the neck and you see those visible. I will have them tighten and then

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loosen those even relax those muscles andthat tension so that I can see that,
so that we know kind of whatto treat. And again, best
thing to do we don't you guysdon't have access to that right now,
right because it's all verbal and words. But the best thing to do is
get that mirror in front of themand we talk about how that looks and
what they would like to see.That's a hard heart area to treat.

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I always like to combo that witha liquid collagen too, to try to
help with elasticity and tone and smoothnessoverall. Smoothness because it is a difficult
area to treat and again subdermally,so you're not relaxing the muscle, you're
just relaxing that skin to try toget that appearance to be more smooth and

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less lines. So that's a littlebit more difficult, I think too.
And then like I said, thensometimes fellers are or something necessary, and
then we can even go into Ihave certification and extra training to do kuibella,
which is a fat emulsification process whereit's actually, yeah, Doug,

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Doug just turned his head. He'slike, what Laura's get to that.
So Allergan carries Kuypella. Allergan isa same line as as the botox and
you can do the Couybella treatments forfat multification. So the indication and label.
Some clinic spaws do off label anddo like underarms, backfat that kind

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of thing. But label is foryour chin area. So if I hate
to say gobbler, but if youhave the double chin, if you know,
they would have to go through afull assessment, but that would be
something also that we would talk about. So we talked about, you know,
relaxing those massive muscles to get thatjaw line a little bit thinner.
We talked about, you know,relaxing that chin to make it less pointy

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with botox, and then we cantalk about smoothing it out with the botox,
but we could also talk about areyou a candidate for Kuybella? So
there's there's lots of things, right, and then we'll get into filler too,
So then that gives a whole newaspect. So I would say,
you know, it's kind of itcould be like a just a mini face

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lift, neck lift, that kindof thing, depending on what you're doing.
Right. Yeah, So when you'retalking about the neck area and like
the necklace line ear to ear,do you ever start and only do you
have or is it pretty much recommendedthat if you're going to do it,
you do it all or Yeah,good question, that's a great question.

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No, it just really for thatbecause it's subdurnal and neck a line.
You're really treating the line. Ok, So that's a little bit different than
treating the muscle. So great question. You're treating the line. So if
that line only goes you know,from basically your jugular you know, towards
the ear and stops even mid neck, there doesn't go all the way to
the ear. I would just treatwhere the line's at and I and you

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stay in the line. So that'sthat's a change from everything else. Now
when you're treating like those elevens andstuff on the forehead, I try to
not only see the muscle movement rightwith all those pictures, but you're also
I like to get in the bellyof that line also, just because you're
trying to relax that and pull thatopen. So and that's where that muscle

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is. So it's probably fair tosay, don't get caught up when you
hear the word ear or Nicholas line. It's basically looking at that line.
And if it's only on one side, so be it. That'll be treated.
But if it's the whole area,that's a different issue as well.
So correct, And that's a greatI mean, like I said, a
great question. Because it's subdermal,it's not muscular, So you can treat

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just the line. You're not goingto have the effect of that muscles not
moving equally and making it look asymmetrical. Correct. Yeah, So you want
to keep that in mind as aclient, is that you may not need
the full area. Correct? Yes, that's where that consultation is so important
and an assessment, right and discussingthat with your client, with the feedback

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of what's needed, how much isneeded, what product is needed, and
kind of figuring up how many unitsthat is. I love to tell my
client how many units it's going tobe prior to giving them the surprise.
There's no surprise, and I alwayssay, I can't take those units back

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injected. It's it's injected. It'sinjected. So we always kind of that
price point is a touch point.Definitely. Is there a difference. I
know, when we've talked about theface, then you're going to say,
come back what ten days later tocome back to to review. Is that
the same for the neck as well? A little bit different for the neck
Subdermally, Again, it's not thatmuscle. So I wouldn't tell you to,

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you know, work those facial muscleslike I told you to to get
it to work because it's really soI think because it's less elasticity and less
muscle, right, depending on theneck and how they metabolize, it's going
to take a little bit longer.I would push them out, you know,
closer to fourteen days before I wantto see that and maybe take some

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after pictures for that if they've alreadyhad it in the forehead too. A
lot of times sometimes they'll even sendme pictures because they don't want to make
the extra trip back because it's notmuscular. You're not trying to tweak something
and making it, you know,appear different, right, you know,
because I want to make that facelook natural and move naturally with those muscle

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movements and expressions that you're having onyour face, whereas your neck is it
is different. Yeah, it kindof brings up another question for me.
I'm sitting here thinking, is therea point where you will tell somebody too
much? And what I mean bythat is you'll only look worth the face
and not the face and the neck. Or is it possible for somebody to

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get the full quote unquote package.Yes, so I have you know,
several of my clients that come inand well, yes, they'll do basically
the whole package. Ye. Yes, face, neck and dec LTE for

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botox. Now, I usually recommend, not always, sometimes we'll do both,
depending on where we're at. Youknow how many times they've been to
me where we're at in basically ourprocess of their treatment plan. But no,
they can. They can do alittle bit now, a little bit
later. I do like to dothe filler after I've done the botox.

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If so, for instance, ifthey say, Okay, I don't really
love those lines above my above mylip, you know, like smoker's lines,
that's what we talked about, Iwill say, let's try botox first
to try to relax that muscle andmaybe some of those fine lines above and
see where we get with that,because that's a very much cheaper route than

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going with the filler. And thenwhen they come back to ten to fourteen
days for their follow up, thenyou can then I will know, and
I'll have product on hand in casethey want to go ahead and go with
the filler, and then we'll justfinesse that more. But it already gives
me a starting point of where I'mat, and then we can usually always
just a little bit more filler onthe next visit. If you know that

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that botox kind of went away becauseit only lasts for the three to four
you know, someone that I reallyenjoy listening hearing you say is that you're
going to kind of work in babysteps. You're you're not going to go
in there and force somebody to getthe whole facial treatment correct that you are
willing to work with the client andthe process and take some baby steps in

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there, make sure that they're feelingcome fool. They like the direction that
it's going prior to making anything thatyou can stuck with for a period of
time. Absolutely, because really thebotox, there is no you know,
transition back to it has to wearoff the three to four months. Sure,
the filler is a little bit different, and we'll talk about how you
can dissipate the filler, but that'sdefinitely I like the small treatment plan one

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for your pocketbook. Two. Theycan slowly see that transition and then it's
not so shocking. Like think aboutgoing, oh, okay, I want
to go blonde today, and I'ma brunette and I go in and get
my hair done, and then it'slike whoa she Wow, she really must
be going through a mid life crisisor whatever. You know, it's very

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shocking not only to you when youlook in the mirror, but to everybody
else when they see you. SoI think that's kind of a process again.
You know, I love the subtle, I love the natural. So
if we kind of build and dothat those baby steps like you discussed,
that brings them to where they're back, is what I like to say,
because they will, I mean eventually, That's how typically a lot of my

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feedback. You know, they'll comein haggard looking, especially if they're in
their fifties and sixties, and thenthey'll slowly start transitioning with each of my
treatment. You know, as wedo the botox and then we do the
cheeks, or we do the undereyes, or we do the lips,
or we do the whole combination,then here comes that person back from fifties

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and sixties. I mean, Ihate to say it, but seven to
ten years usual. I mean,on a good, good paying customer that
wants basically that complete turnaround, they'regoing to get that well. And if
you do it baby steps as well, you can prevent that shock treatment like
you just said, because a lotof times people won't notice sort of changes

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they make go have something different,but you put their finger on it.
And if you just do it overa period of time, you can actually
reverse the aging for life of abetter word, if you will, and
and people almost assume that they've you'vebeen that way for a long time.
Yes, yes, and like westarted this whole conversation with this is why
you're my co host. Guess youcan kind of lead me into okay,

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what do you How does that work? Laura? And it kind of helps
me to to help listenerslutely what inlike off air that we discussed. It's
difficult for me to talk about itwithout my client in front of me with
it with their mirror, right,because then we can point and we can
share, and I'm having to bedescriptive in making sure you guys understand.

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So that does significantly help you asyou as my is my I don't on
here. So so then that leadsus to basically the declote. So declatae
right? I when I'll be completelyhonest, when I get went into my
first botox, well my second botoxclass and said declote, I was like,

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what is that? Right? Imean, I had no idea.
So your declate is basically your chestarea, you know. So as we
approach swimsuit time again, I shouldn'tsay this is not male tailored, but
it's more female tailored. So wasto get into that, I know that
like large breasted women or like inmy case women who have breastfed and had

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several children, where there's that fluctuationin the brust tissue or sun damage right
sleeping on her side, where itcreates that that line or crevice between you
know, the breast tissue. You'llhave that creepiness or that lineage that you're
like, I don't really love that, right. So then the same thing

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is that what we talked about withthe neck and the necklace lines. You
look at those lines and then youstart trying to basically come up with a
treatment plan based on what that lookslike. Now I've had mostly I would
say a triangular effect going towards thebreast right that you would treat, and
that triangular effect about again one inchapart, roughly two inches per you'll pinch

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the skin and kind of track thoselines right and treat that way. Or
you may even have over closer toyour shoulder area where your brawl strap or
swimsuit strap would be, there's somelineage there, and again I don't know
if that's like sleeping on your sideand pulling that skin, you know,
and it's over time, over time, it's just creating that that lineage that

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you don't want and I hate tocall it lineage, but that's what it
is. There's these lines that justslowly come about in your forties and I'm
like I said, I'm forty five. As you approach those ages and like,
I really don't like that. Whyis that there? And this is
a way that help reverse that,even though it's short term. I mean,

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it's not going to fix it theright term, but it will fix
it for a short term. Andit's something that you can keep coming back
periodically for yes, get removed.And that's I guess the other thing.
I guess we should touch upon,maybe touched upon it a little bit.
So when you're cheating subdermally, you'retreating the lines, okay, and it's
still going to last the three tofour months maybe right Again, the treatment

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and how how long that sustains becauseit's not muscular is not as set in
stone. It's going to be basedon that person. But then all of
your muscles are that we're treating inthe face are going to last that three
to four I mean, you'll plateauit that month like I talked about,
and then two two and a halfmonths you're going to notice that you have
all those facial expressions back. Whatwe are trying to do, which I've

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talked about, is we're trying torelax it so we don't have that exaggerate
expression. And I think a bigmyth is is my face going to get
worse? Right if I stop doingthis all of a sudden, I can't
afford it. Is it going toget worse? No, So that's the
difference between treating subdermally and muscularly,is we're training that muscle to not make

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the exaggerated expression. So my answeris to be, no, it's not
gonna get worse. And if youneed an example of that, start looking
at ladies faces that you think havebeen treated that are in their sixties.
And you can look at somebody fromtheir nose to their forehead and it looks
really good. Because remember what Italked about history, they didn't treat the

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whole face. Right, they starteddoing those trainings and then they were really
just treating that upper region of theface and not treating that the whole face
right, that whole everything we've beentalking about. So that's a huge difference,
I think, because you'll see thatthose ladies, they do look younger,
they do look more youthful, soit is very preventive. Like I

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talked about the oil change in thecar, you wanted to keep on top
of that, ladies in one fashionor the other. Whether that I mean,
I would say the trifactas is whatI would say. I would say,
you know, watch your diet,activate and supplement to help you know,

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basically on the inside, and thenyou can do botox preventative for those
lines to keep it maintained right soyou're not having the exaggerated expressions. And
then also think about what products amI using in my skin and how much
sun damage am I giving to myskin. There's so many things in the

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picture right right, Yeah, it'slike anything else. The formula is a
little different for everybody. Yes,somebody that's out in the sun a little
bit more may have a different rightyeah, in an area and treatment plan
than somebody that's maybe more of ahermit stand inside a little bit more,
and the body gets affected a littledifferently in skin tones. Skin tones,

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skin tones are big. And thenthen when I inject, you know,
I'm always surprised by sometimes when youinject somebody you thought, oh, you
know, they're fairly fair complexed it'sgoing to inject a little bit easier,
and it's tough, like tough skin. I noticed certain people have tough skin

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versus other people. And sometimes I'msurprised, sometimes I'm not right, depending
on what that presentation is when itcomes in. So that's always interesting to
me too. Yeah, again,not everybody's the same, and it's going
too everybody's going to be affected alittle differently in that process. Well,
and like we talked with the male, when they come in, they metabolize

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faster, right, They're not structuredthe same, so they may take more
units because in order to get themto the exact same as where if you
put a female in a male andthey had about the same looking right areas
that they were wanting to treat,you may have twice as many units for
that male as that female to getthe same exact result in terms of that.

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So, I know we said thatwe today we wanted to talk about
neck, chest in the hands.So one other area we want to talk
about is the hands. Now,I'll be honest with you when you throw
this out to me earlier and wewere talking off the air prepping for this
show, I was a little surprisedwith the hands, talk a little bit
about that. Okay, about that, so we can talk both medically with

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the sweat, and we can talkabout age, right, and what the
top of the hand looks like.So we'll go pullmanned, I guess outer.
So you can treat the top ofyour hand with botox or a lot
of times it is filler. Okay, So if you have, you know
that creepy skin and it's just movingall over the place, and it's really

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aging. And I always Dolly Pardonalways comes to mind, sure when I
think about this, and I maybethat's just me, but if you ever
notice she always wears the gloves.She always wears the gloves or some type
of hand covering that I shouldn't saygloves, but basically always covers her hand,

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the top of her hand, notnecessarily her fingers. And I always
thought maybe it went with the outfit, but as I got into this,
this is what I think. Ithink her hands look aged, and I
think their hands probably show some ofhow old she actually is. And doesn't
that's the rest of her because she'sbeen augmented and fluffed and puff no nothing

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again, I mean, everybody's theirown perception of what that makes them happy
and what they see when they lookin the mirror. So but that's what
kind of changed my thought process onthe hands, because you said, I'm
surprised of the hands. It's awhole you know, what do you see
and what makes you look older orbothers you And I can even go back
to my mom, my mom.She you know, she always said,

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my mom, which is my grandmother, has beautiful hands. She did not
see a lot of the sun.She's fair complexed and she has aged.
Well, my mom's hands look alot older. And she said, I
think it's just you know, workand sudden and damage, and so she
notices that in our hands. Soit's just different in different people. So
you can do the botox or thefiller, and again it's going to be

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presentation, what presents to us.If we have a lot of area that
you know, is more creepy andmovable, you're going to go filler.
If it's more just a little bitof line, yeah, touch up here
and there, then it's just goingto be the botox. I guess why.
One of the reasons that the handsreally surprised me is because when I
think, and this is maybe amyth that we can get into a little

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bit is that it's really a facialthing. But it's not. And I
think that's one of the things thatkind of through me for a loop when
you were saying hands, and I'mlike, ah, because I and I'm
sure I'm not alone in this.You think face, yes, yes,
just predominantly face, And I thinkthat you know, with models and advertisement
everything, that's also what they've tailoredus towards, right, So then that's

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what we think. Uh. Andthen the hands, to me, I
thought was also very interesting because Ihave people in my family that have sweaty
hands and it doesn't bother them.You know, they go in for an
interview or a handshake or whatever,and they're always dry in their palms on
their pant legs before they know.Right, It's just because usually in a
high stressed situation, or if youeven know you're going to touch somebody else,

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then they tend to sweat more.So when we talked about, you
know, armpits and the different areasthat you could treat to help with excessive
sweating, palms are one of them. I haven't dabbled into it a lot
because I'm more cosmetic but what Ihave learned in my training is a lot
of times they'll do an io dinewith cornstarch on the hands and they'll put

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that on the hands and they'll allowthe patient to set and that will get
your hot spots. So then youcan see and I say hot spots because
that's going to show you the poolingof where it's sweating in the hands.
So you can see roughly where thebest in for red right, where the
best place is, and where youcan get the most bang for your buck

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as far as treatment. And it'sgoing to be that two unit increments that
you're going to be treating in thosehands to help with that sweating. And
I mean they've done, you know, considerable studies on that where they'll do
just one hand and leave the otherso that they can see the difference between
the hands because again it's not avisual right, it's not a facial thing.

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It's just to try basically a treatmentplan to try to help with excessive
sweating. Yeah, because it's somepeople, it really bothers them and they
would like that to be less thanwhat it is. I think that's very
interesting because I was wondering, I'mlike, you just like, give me
one shot and it affects the wholehand or want. But it's kind of
interesting that you're saying that corn starchbasically rubbing it on your hands and it's

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going to act like an infant redand said this area, this area,
in this area is where the majorityof your moisture is coming from. And
so we're only going to inject inthose three areas example, right, So
because the iodine makes it right orange, right, and then you let that
you know, plus I dry rightso that it's not wet. And then

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when you put that cornstarch on,yes, it makes those those that plat
map I guess gives those landmarks towhere where is the excessive sweating at mostly
and then you're going through that andnow I've I mean as far as I've
not personally done it, but asfar as what I've learned, I think
it's very uncomfortable. So that wouldbe an interesting You can use again that

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BLT formula or whatever topical cream thatthey used to numb. I use the
BLT, the benzicane lytycane, yeah, because yes, yep, to make
it a little bit more comfortable.And that would last three to four months
as well. Probably not Okay,I would say no, it may last
longer honestly, because again it's notmuscular, and it's also going to depend

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on how quickly that metabolizes out.Basically, research and study shows it's lasting
a little bit longer, so they'regoing to get more out of it.
So that's a great thing too,because again that's going to be more units
to cover a palm than it wouldbe, right depending on how big the
palm is. I would I woulddare guess fifty to eighty units would be
a rough guess if you're going prettymuch the whole palm. But again it's

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going to depend on where those,as you said, infra red areas are.
Yeah, it's really an educated guessbased on all what we yes.
Well, and that's the whole Thewhole thing I guess is if somebody texts
me or is it called, youknow, to set up a consultation,
one of the first questions is roughly, how much do I think that's going

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to cost? Well, you don'tknow. Because that's why I think it's
important to have that consultation for freebecause depending on where they want, now
I can shoot text back and forthand I can give them a proximate area,
Like I said, you know tento twenty five units between the brows
and foreheads into twenty five units,So where's your right right areas that you're

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concerned about, And then we cankind of quote it that way. And
that's what we talked a little bitoff air. I hate to get into
numbers. Not yes, now,buddy, It's just that you don't want
somebody to hear X amount of dollars. They're going to walk in and go,
well, I heard you're only goingto try well, yeah, that's
in that example, you're a littlebetter, you're a little worse in your

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situation. So that's going to fluctuatethe costs up or down. Yes,
yes, And then that's also whatwe talked about a little off the air.
My biggest thing that I think Iwould tell all my my listeners is
know how many units you are beingtreated with and which talks and you're being
treated with. And then also whenyou get to fillers, I'm going to
tell you the same thing. No, which filler that you're being treated with?

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And what's that? What's that fillermade of? Why are you using
it in that particular spot? Soyou're not only kind of investigating your rejector
and making sure that they're knowledgeable andthey have the training and the capabilities.
You know, you're I mean,and you can stalk them right, look
at those pictures that they post andsee if you like the results. But

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also you need to be your ownadvocate and absolutely what you have and when
you have it, because if youdo have a bad situation and you go
to somebody to fix it, whichI've had, they don't know. I
mean, my customers will come inand be like, I don't know,
I don't know. I just don'tlike this and this happened, and then
I have to kind of you know, restart, reboot, talk about it,

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educate about it, and then figureout a treatment plan to fix that.
Yeah, And I know we've talkedabout that before on the last episode,
and probably the thing that we're goingto be throughout all these shows is
making sure you know the medicine you'retaking basically, and then also making sure
you don't have the units because ifsomething does go wrong or you need to
go somewhere else to get it fixed, like you said, it's going to

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give you a head start to yeah, because if somebody tells me, Well,
somebody tells me that they're not surewhat they got, but they they
paid for let's say thirty two units. That's the pretty standard if we're doing
between the eyes and some forehead anda little better around the crows feet,
thirty two units. And they comein and I have full movement, like

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forehead moves up, I got youknow, lineage going on the forehead.
They smile and I have you know, creases, and then they have that
disgruntled face you know, and pullpull those two brows together. I'm like,
some right here, right, Yeah, when when were you in the
last training? Oh you were treatedtwo weeks ago? Okay, well then
it should be setting right, itshould be there. And how much money

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did you spend? So then I'mtrying to figure out because they have they
have full movement, and they paidfor thirty two units. You're kind of
re engineering the process. You're workingbackwards to try to figure out, right,
because I'm like, did you getany units? And I always tell
my my and it's probably just mepersonally, but I said, I don't
want to know who. Yeah,I just need to know when and what

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if you know so that we canmove forward from there because you never want
to put too many in right.Yeah, all right, it's hard to
believe we already at our limit forthe day. It's uh, it's been
a great conversation. We talked aboutthe neck, the chest, and the
hands today in this episode, episodethree. I know we've got a lot
more to work through in the process. But how do people get ahold of

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you? Okay, So the bestway to get a hold of me is
by cell, So you can callme at eight five nine five one two
five three four one. I dodo parties, but predominantly I'm at Chez
Me salon on Walbash and Terahood Indiana. I have a Facebook page which is
Indiana Botoks Babe. Instagram Indiana botoksBabe. You can also do Facebook or

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Instagram with my name and you'll stillyou'll still find me. And I pretty
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I'm out there and I'll tell youwhat. The other thing to remember,
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Laura, always great talking to youand thanks for another great episode. And
like I said, just a quickrecap. We talked about the next Chest
and Hands in this particular episode.All right, thanks Dog, thank you