Fui dos veces campeón del super bowl | Raúl Allegre | Todos con Toño

Bienvenidos a Toño De Valdés, en esta ocasión, el querido Raúl Allegre nos habla sobre su carrera dentro de la NFL, y cómo fueron aquellos dos anillos de Super Bowl que ganó.

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So when he tells us how togrow, that is, you start running
the stadium and it' s thereyou have no idea the discharge of the
life you feel and that, becauseyou realize that you' re floating in
lige. I wanted to keep doingsports, because it' s also a
way to make friends. It's the best way to make friends.

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It was practicing sport and the onlytwo options were ocampo, naughty or football
and it was already marked the fatethat ended up being patriot, since metol
of fifty- five yards. Imaginethe coaches jumping around screaming. He told
me ok that he was welcome tothe team. He has a saying that
he didn' t like it verymuch now. Shan payt of the doney

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I spell you a tone of jokes. Don' t believe everything the press
writes about you because many times itlooks. I wanted to learn English.
I read it and wrote it verywell, but I didn' t talk
about it. It was hard forme to understand and much harder to talk
about it. I knew English wasgoing to be indispensable. My dream was
always there I managed to be anengineer leaving friends, how are all welcome

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with toño and today caramba what honorand pleasure to greet a dear friend of
many years, besides, companion atsome time And besides, since a character
of the history of the sport inMexico, of the NFL in Mexico,
of the few Mexicans who have ringof champion of Super Bowl, Raúl Alegre,

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is with us my dear, Raúlhow happy it is to give you
a huge hug. I hope thatvery soon we can give it physically,
but well, at least here inthe distance, how you are Raul.
I' m very well toasted.Thank you, I' ve been following
your show. I' ve seenall the people you' ve interviewed say
well, because maybe I qualify itnot to make the guests of toño,

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but it' s an honor tobe here with you all with toño,
as we say hear raul notice thatI say remembering many many moments that we
have had the opportunity to be incontact and to transmit and work together and

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to know each other for how manyyears. I thought about this moment so
special that it was also up tous to live, to pepe enriches me
when you were with the team ofthe giants of New York and you were
in the Super Bowl. What aspecial moment, What do you remember about

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that specific time when you lived onSuper Sunday Look you' ll remember that
I started that season with Indianapolis foals. I was considered, if not the
worst, one of the worst teamsin the League, but I loved living
in Lidiannapolis. I had a jobthere as a civil engineer, I dated

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a girl, I had my condo. I already had my life done,
but in the preseason, as itusually happens in the NFL. As Nortford
Lone says, I was thanked.I didn' t know if my career
was going to end, but because, as I always said, God has
a plan for everyone and he arrangedthe opportunity to go with the giants.
It wasn' t immediate, becauseafter my first trariat, which went very

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well, there was a misunderstanding withpangs in fact, I got back and
Diana in case I thought that opportunitywas over and I wrote a letter to
Parces where I explained what was thesituation that caused that misunderstanding, that the
reality of things is that I wasreading the contract with my agent and they
wanted me to sign it and Isaid no, because I want to read

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it before signing it. Then Iend the letter asking in peace is that
if he would sign a contract withoutfirst reading it, then he talks to
me on the phone, tells mehe reads the contract, he directly,
tells me, points everything you needand if you are interested, they talk
tomorrow before ten in the morning.Well, I mean, 6: 00
in the morning. I spoke tohim the next day. I didn'

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t wait until ten hours later.I was on a plane to New York,
made and made my fourth week debutagainst New Orleans and, as the
rest of them say, it's history. I was the third batter
the giants had that season. But, as things turned out, I had
to kick field goals, which werethe difference In six games we won,

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including two that went to the veryend two. There was a game against
Minnesota where I had to put five. The week after four against Denver,
the last field goals, missing something, as well as ten seconds, the
team began to take shape. Wehad a critical Monday night match against San

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Francisco. In San Francisco we lostseventeen to zero, we went twenty-
one to zero and from then onwe knew what we were going to do
with the number one sowing and withthe best chances of moving forward. Obviously,
they were, on the other hand, the Chicago bears, who were
the defending champions, who ended uplosing to Washington. And we got to

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the super bowl and the reality ofthings, because I didn' t believe
what my good fortune was. Iwas going to tell you quite nervously,
because you know that the Super Bowlisn' t, like they say another
game or any other game, it' s an event that changes your life

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for good or bad, depending onhow it goes then, because I was
up to the moment, I hadgone very well that season, but I
didn' t have that many means. The night before I couldn' t
sleep until I went on a comedyshow here called Sandre Night Live. They
made a parody of the video thatthe Chicago bears made a year earlier and

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this was a video of the kickersand one of the most important actors personified
me, which made me laugh alot. He broke the ice. I
was able to sleep that night thenext day at the stadium and then I
' m going to get you toRosebul I left as soon as possible.
Normally I was in the last truck, but now I left in the first,

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because I was already desperate there atthe motel, where they put us
that I didn' t even haveany hot water. And they ran out
of hot water. The day ofthe game. We didn' t all
bathe in cold water. But it' s finally here and the beachbors are
rehearsing. And then there' sno diamon that was going to sing the

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national anthem. I walk on thegrass and you see all the wolves and
you already drop the twenty that you' re going to be in the super
bowl. We' re going well, we' re going to the dressing
room. We went out for thewarm- ups. He was so nervous
that he didn' t have thegoal. They were pure socks and Jeff

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Brotliche tells me who held my courage. The holder tells me to go to
the other goal walking breathes where youcome back and like that already settled me,
I already started kicking. Well,obviously, you go back to the
dressing room for the presentations and beforeit was more structured. They said we

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' re going to run the offensivefirst. But pie said we' ve
waited in the middle of the seasonfor the team they' re going to
present before the game and because webroke the rules, we all went to
wait for the players of the offensive, but jump into the pitch in a

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super Bowl. You realize that andI always for Parcels stuff that was superstitious,
had to be, we had tobe for Cells in front of one
side Shon the net and the otherside I was his rule. I mean,
for superstitions, and there' sa lot of superstitions I could talk
to you about. But then,at the time he calls us a goal,

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you start running. The stadium isthere, you have no idea how
much of the life you feel andhow you realize that you' re floating
in the air. And so Icome and the preparations begin, because you
see everything that the pre- superBowl ceremony implies. We ended up singing

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Dial Dinon in the national anthem.He comes here and greets us all.
I say no to everyone, buthe' s going to our bench,
because he' s from New Yorkand he' s playing that we lose
the blow and I' m goingto kick him off. Not then.
That is one of the moments,along with the births of my children and

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my wedding, that have been mostspecial to me in my life. And
then, above all, we endup winning after losing in half time.
Amazing, amazing, good for anyonewho plays football, because it' s
time, it' s not theinstant you' re waiting. Now let

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' s go back raul, becausein you you' re born in turret
and as I understand it, youdidn' t know much about football,
no better about football. You likedother sports and practiced other sports in turret.
That' s right, look.I remember the first attempt I made
to watch a football game on television. It was in a thousand nine hundred

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and seventy- eight in a seasongame. I' m sure you remember
the best of the Internet and televisionin one place. Right now play between
New Orleans and Philadelphia at Blue Stadium. If I remember the truth correctly,
I saw him for five minutes andthey didn' t understand the rules.
It became very boring and good,apart from it being preseason and I turned

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it off. That was the onlytime I had contact or experience with football
before I left Torreon for a yearof exchange. I' m telling you,
I practiced, because now I wasgood at baseball, so he'
s looking for baseball for you forbasketball. I was a bad guy,

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but because I liked to run Iplayed to highaliy I say, I arrived
good. I didn' t playat the Mexico pediment, but I went
with my dad, who was aball to Mexico pediment to watch him play
and I practiced it too. Andobviously football, I was front center,
but American at all curious. It' s not really, well, fate

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stuff you' re bringing now you' re telling us about your dad.
Your dad was a baller and apro. I wasn' t a professional,
but well, you see that Igave the coincidences that my dad and
your dad were neighbors and I didn' t know no later, when my
dad spoke to them on the broadcasts, I don' t know how it

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came out that you were from SanPedro de los Pinos and so did he.
And well, that' s acommon theme. But he was,
as it was, an almost professionallevel. He played with agreement that there
was a man named Kazuda, andthere were many. In fact, they
were once French and Spanish, allBasques to torreón and he, he was
the host. He remodeled the frontonof San Isidro Park so that Hya Light

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could be played, and he playedevery Sunday Haya Ai and then I,
bought me from my basket And thenI went in from time to time,
but I never played competitively like that. He was very young and he did,
he did, until he already suffereda hip fracture and could no longer.

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He had to have a hip replacementand that' s when he finished
his ballari career Well, when itcomes time to go on exchange, why
did you come up with the ideaof going to America. Why that determination?
Because I say a lot of people, because they think they' re

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going to study, because maybe they' re going to the capital. Not
why it was America. Look,I wanted to learn English. I read
it and wrote it very well,but I didn' t talk about it.
It was hard for me to understandand much more work to speak it
I knew that English was going tobe indispensable. My dream was always and
I managed to be a civil engineer, my dad the civil engineer, my

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uncle, my cousins, the tournament. They' re civil engineers now.
Then I said I' m gonnatake a year' s trade. I
' m in no hurry to graduate. In the end, you end up
finishing the rest of your life.What is the hurry and when I arrived
this is in a thousand nine hundredand seventy- seven. It' s
true, Washington, which is abouta hundred miles of siaro, I saw

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that there was no football. Therewas already the cosmos pelé, but football
was not popular. All the fieldswe passed I remember. The first time
I went to high school, theywere football. Today, the kisses are
multivouses, they have football goalkeepers byfootball theories, they have the cross and
they all have scratches. But thenit was only football, and in the

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United States sports are for season inthe fall, as it is football in
the first goal and athletics in thewinter, basketball and swimming, etcetera.
Then the only options I had.I wanted to keep doing sports, because
it' s also a way tomake friends. That' s the best
way to make friends. It waspracticing sport and the only two options were

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naughty ocampo or football and the Traviessafield. Like I say to myself,
I liked to go for a run, but I said well, I'
ll see what this is about football. I was a practice and a line
player who would tell me to leaveyou about one ninety- three, or
ninety- four, one hundred andfifteen, one hundred and twenty kilos of
weight. I was just trying tokick out extos points that you know are

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twenty yards and I just came inand I said hey, well, and
I can do that. Let mesee I go with the coach and tell
him today I could try that.He tells me if twenty right now,
there' s no time, butbeta and the part wasn' t ready.
Mind. I got there tomorrow.Someone lent me a few tachones the
night before there I told the familyI was staying with and playing football and

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they were all surprised, but Itold them that as a kicker then they
had a plastic ball and at theentrance of their house they had an arch.
I mean, I don' tknow he was about six feet tall.
He tells me, then, ifyou can give it over the arch,
you already did it with a plasticball. I tried it two times,
but it was the only practice Ihad prior to the triot they did

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to me. Then I report thenext day they put me with the alternate
core back to hold, just likethe defensive line player was. And we
start with the extreme point and hetells me, so, well, we
' re going to slow down everyfive yards on one side and on the
other and so as far as youget I said forward, and so we

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start and I keep delaying, delaying, we get to the thirty- five
yard, which is a forty-five yard field goal and the rest of
the team were them in with theiractive corches, each unit with their respective
coach, making preparations prior to practice. And then they said one face,
and he was giving forty- five, and so far none had failed,

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and with an extra distance, andthey gathered to see me a midwife of
forty- five, and I broughtthem in without a problem. He tells
me his name was Jim the correbactionplay at fifty. I told him if
it' s worth fifty meters withoutproblems and he says hear me three those.
I said yes, I' mthinking this is very easy. Not
just any company, any scared fellowof the torreo football team can do it.

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Then I realized that I did not, but I noticed that I had
that facility, that gift of Godand it was already marked in the destiny
that ended up being a patriot,for I put in the fifty- five
- yard one. Imagine the coachesjumping around screaming. He told me he
was welcome to the team and sobegan my career in football. That high

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school season wasn' t very good. One team won four, we lost
five only nine seixtras three field goalsand I thought it was all over.
But a lot of people thought Ihad the talent to play at school and
they wanted me to go to theUniversity of Washington and they got me a
triout in the spring at the SpritPractices, which have two teams with the

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Washington and Micke Lansfort teams. Idon' t know if you remember him.
You' re the rams' silversmithand we shot each other and we
' re even, that is,not all of us put them in and
I thought he' s in histhird year. They' re gonna give
me a chance. They give mewhat' s called the radcher. I
already did it here, but thecoach told me not you, you'
re too green. You need togo to a junior college, which is

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a two- year college and Isaid no alr College or nothing. No.
So, well, not to bea long perk, that coach ended
up being my car in the jets. When I put the field drop to
tie the game and I won itin extra time, Pepe grabs on.
He remembers that game perfectly. Ithink it was up to you guys to

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narrate. It was in December ofone thousand nine hundred and ninety- five.
But you see the twists of fate. So, I thought my football
career was over again. But mycoach at High School decided to make a
video before I returned to Torreon.That way, from early June, and

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by then I scored sixty- five- yard field goals and I thought it
was for his particular collection, buthe doesn' t send it. He
sends it to all the colleges thatrecruited High Shool. His high school was
one of the most important in thestate of Washington. They had won the
state championship on a couple of occasionsand they tell me about the University of

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Montana through Mrs joan A maturev withwhich I saw exchange and because the first
offers me half time that I sayno. Then they call me ok full
scholarship, but Montana didn' thave civil engineering school. Then I played.
I did well for the first twoyears. After that I moved to

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the University of Texas. I wasinactive. Now there is the transfer portal.
Not before, you had to waita year for yourself and in eighty
- one, eighty- two jubéwith the long horns that were a trabu
With then we were in second placenational. And from there, I had
the window, thanks to Fredak,who is the coach, to be seen

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from the Dallas cowboys and Atlanta hawks. The two of them made me offers
the Dallas one was worth five granda firm that I thought was all the
money in the world. A hundreddollars to go to training, that is,
make dollars a week to go totraining your facilities during the summer.
And so I said I' mfrom here and I' m going to

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the preseason with Dallas. At thattime there was no player limit. In
the preseason we arrived a hundred newbies, about ten days before the veterans reported.
There were seven kickers, the bestof the Internet and television in one
place Right now play, of whichwe left three and then joined that he

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was the starter of the team.At the end of the day, after
two weeks, it was only meand Septine, Rafael and I, and
we were practically competing every day atthe beginning, because he was doing better,
but in the end it was betterfor me. And they ended up

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inviting a good one to several coachesto watch me kick a field goal.
Fifty- two yards in the firstpreseason game against Miami, the Navy'
s NFL debut, an extra point. September had one of fifty- one
and an extra point and then Ihad, after the last preseason game a
trillat with Mike Westof, who isone of the legendary special team coaches.

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He just hired Shan Payton to behis assistant head coach with selling and it
went very well. And the nextday I' m going back to Baltimore
and that' s how my NFLcareer starts. But then you put on
the Dallas uniform. You played withthe Dalla Vanqueros. Yeah, yeah,
seven weeks, I mean, sevenweeks of preseason. I stayed up to

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you. I mean, I wasn' t cut, but Gill Brant changed
me. Ernia corsi was the managerof the Boltimore foal team. They made
me a selection novel. Before therewere twelve rounds, now nothing more,
There are seven and they exchanged me. To say this fire when the transaction

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was made. It was Sunday aftermy tri- out. Bill Bates accompanied
me to that trao because he wasmy quart partner. The next day,
on Monday, I go out toVolta Hey and you get to Voltibre and
there was also competition there. Obviously, no, no, nothing. He

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was the fifth kicker they had,so there was more. They said the
hill where the noiswi Maryland training campwas called boot Hill, that is,
the kicker cemetery, because Frankcousge wasthe head coach. You' ll remember

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one time he put a costcorrona ona player I think Clains. I don
' t remember where. He wasbrave Frankkurse and he wasn' t very
patient. I was replacing a kickernamed Danny Miller, but I had based
on Kurch' s gestation at leastfive other four besides Dan in the eighty

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- two, which was a yearof strike, the team was nothing more,
there were nine matches, there werezero wins, eight lost and one
tied. So, I said well, no one thought I was gonna stay,
but I was the only kicker.That was when I arrived, there
were no other kickers. Mike Westofsaid this is going to be that'

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s the kicker I want and Idebuted against the patriots back there at the
former Sullivan Stadium and with three fieldgoals, including one at the end,
who sent the game on overtime andJohnny Cox, who sadly passed away just
a few days ago, turned aloose ball for tok Stown and was the

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first victory of Boys' foals intwo years. Look how barbarous he hears
and how long you stayed with thefoals. A year in Baltimore and twelve
in Indiannapplius, or you' vealready spent it. Naples left in the
middle of the night. Well,in the Mail Flower so they tell you
I was studying, I was finishingmy career at the University of Texas and

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they hear the news. We knewthe team was going out because Bobrsay,
Jim' s current owner' sdad, didn' t get along with
either the governor or the goal mayorMaril and the mayor of Baltimore, and
we knew that we were talking aboutPhoenix, that is, talking about Indiannaplis,

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but we didn' t know itwas going to be that year or
not. The city of Baltimore wantedto have the team appropriated in a term
called emin in domail. I don' t know exactly what the Spanish translation
is, but by right of seniority, the team was going to become the

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property of the city and finds outBolvercy and that' s why they went
out in the middle of the nightand I was the first year, the
last year in Baltimore and the firstday. In fact, this season is
celebrated in the forty years of theteam and van already invited me to hold
a meeting of the original team inthe inaugural match of two thousand twenty-

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three. Of course, forty sons, how are you going? The time
is coming back is amazing. Unbelievable, because I already tell you I met
you and that four or five yearslater, thirty- five years ago we
met and that I have the honorof calling you a friend equal to Pepe

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and Enrique. But yes, timeflies well, yes, yes, yes,
no what. Sure, it's awesome. Hey good at Indianapolis.
Obviously, you settled in well,why you left Indiannapolis money. Look
Frank Kors was fired after the seasonone thousand nine hundred and eighty- four.

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They hired Rod Dart Howard in eighty- five. He and I never
had a very good relationship. Thespecial team coach. It was pretty bad.
I had no idea what he wasdoing. I was hit by the
team was very bad field goals.Usually, I rarely kicked and a field

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goal of less than forty yards,which is my average. That season was
about forty- one, forty-two yards and several, including sixty-
many fifty or so- half,but Thor didn' t want me.
Then the season of nine hundred andeighty- five and for eighty- six

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selects a kicker in the draft andwell let me return to eighty- four.
There I had a pre- seasoninjury and they hired Dedia SUCCII,
who supplied me with a few gamesand then left and because well adn re
- hired him for the season onethousand nine hundred and eighty- six,

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along with kicker Chris White, wascalled his dad Mike White, he was
assistant coach with the networks. Idon' t know if you remember him.
Yeah, I think it was evenhedkoachs of kings at a bad time.
I don' t remember Kansas City, but well, it was Mike
' s Chris White son and wehad a competition and I won it.

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But already dah how had me,as they say, crossed and discharged me
and from there he gave himself thetriout to get to the giants of New
York that I described two years agohe hears us from parks, because they
say many things about Bill Parcells,that well, that he was putting a

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lot of pressure on the players,that suddenly he took one or two or
three and he had them like this, because he didn' t. I
don' t mean to say thathe was mistreating us, but they weren
' t exactly spending a day inthe country when they were training with parcel.

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It was very brave for Cells Reallylook at what you say It includes
the stars as well. Once hegrabbed, as they say, a pig.
I think in the term you wantedto use Larld Staylor and we'
re going to play against the ramsand say no, I mean, I
' m going to have Patchuellen,who also has the number fifty- six

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who plays for new orleans, becausehe does well against rams. Lately,
when we' ve played against them, you haven' t done anything.
And then, because he was chokingyou, following you, continuing Lord Stailor
had two catches. It was againstthe bread that I remember was the left
tacla in that one of the wagons. We ended up losing that playoffs game.

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In a thousand nine hundred were theeighty- nine peodes with no Fliper
Anderson. But, well, thatyear we had a very good team.
If Mark Brobiro wasn' t pickedup, I think we' d have
won the Super Bowl, but notfor him. He knew look, He
was a motivational teacher. I knewevery week, i e every week,

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there was a subject of motivation dependingon the opponent and that subject presented it
to us on Wednesdays and strengthened itThursday, Friday and Saturday. And he
knew which players were likely to haveproblems or which player thought that, as
he said, they were already believingeverything that their press wrote, that is,

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they ate the cheese he said.He has a saying that says he
liked him a lot now. ShaunPayton tells me done spell you, i
e all Ney jokes, don't believe everything the press writes about you,
because many times I talked to youand me, when I had the
two consecutive weeks of five field goalsin one and four in another, he
also grabbed me. He grabbed mehard, no, but he tried to

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prepare the player that was going tobe key, or that he thought he
was going to be key in thatgame and sometimes he did it differently,
sometimes he brought him the best ofthe Internet and television in one place.
Right now, or sometimes I wastalking to him, because there were a
lot of players who couldn' tstand Bill Parcells' intense style. That

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wasn' t me. Look atme when I got to the giants first
it' s that day two thingshappened. I had my first practice with
telling me you' re not goingto kick with the team until you get
in rhythm with your center and yourbra. I said okay, that'

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s Wednesday and good judge. Wednesday' s practice part of the field goals
put one of fifty- seven onone side, another of fifty on the
other and goes to parcers with Jeffbrotlege that was that he ran alternate,
he held and told him and howhe tells me, he doesn' t
say we already have a kicker.Then parces tells me look raul you came

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out of the foals with the bestrecord of effectiveness in the history of the
team. At that time it wasseventy- four percent, which now is
terrible, but then it was verygood, because I tell you it was
I can explain to you why thatwas not other, other times conditions.
But, well, then it wasreally good and it tells me here you
' re going to have to putseventy- five percent in if you don

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' t go on a team.I said ok, well that season I
put in twenty- four field goals, thirty- two attempts, that is
exactly seventy- five percent and yourealize many times the limitations that you put
yourself as a person and need someoneto push you further there. Well,
then, after that season he tellsme now I want 80 percent. So,

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no, I said this one,because it' s cannon, it
' s really hard. No,well, my last three years with the
cigatos, I put eighty- twopercent in it. Then I had that
way of demanding you more than youthought you could give good that seventy-
five percent pass. They missed somethingelse from the trainer. I think I

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did it there in the trainer inMexico It' s the one that comes
to you, the one that takescare of your injuries, the one that
restores you, etcetera. His nameis Ronny Vans, who is still with
the giants. He tells me raulis going to give you some advice about
Bill Parceth tells me he doesn't like warm people. I told him
what' s up. He likesto be confronted. If you yell at

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them. I said you' rekidding me, I mean, how I
' m gonna get. Me yellingat Bill Parcel. Well, you don
' t give it a chance untila game against ciaarol In that game I
was going to enter a field goalin the injury. The game is suspended
for about five minutes and then Iget the field goal and I end up

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failing it and it seems he wasangry, he was furious and he starts
yelling at me. And then Ididn' t think, because I started
yelling at him and we stood here, face to face to yell at each
other. I said chin because welost that game. In fact, it
was the last we lost in eighty- six. I said tomorrow I'

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m going to be discharged, thatis, I missed a field goal,
we lost the game and besides Itold what no, well, Monday nothing
happened. Monday is the day yousee the special teams that make calistenas are
about those who get injured. Theygo to see the trainer Tuesday you don

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' t come back, that is, Wednesday I go out to kick and
I said well, because I'm still here and he talks to me
to be seen here I said nowyes, I already give it says,
I liked the way you responded.I liked that you didn' t get
intimidated when I yelled at you Hetells me in the apology. He tells
me that was the heat of themoment. I told him, because I

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too was the heat of the moment, he tells me, but I liked
what you answered and that you gaveme arguments and that you didn' t
wrinkle. And that was the kindof coach that was Bill Parcells and a
motivational genius when you talk to leadershipcompanies. There are three things I learned

(35:06):
from him and I try to applyone is to surround you with the best
talent, because he has been told. No, you didn' t win
the Super Bowl. You didn't win his pros if it wasn'
t for Bill Belige. And itmakes me clear that it' s my
best attribute to find elements, notjust coaches, but players who are first
class, I want coach who saysthey know more than I do. And

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well, there' s Tion Payton, there' s Tom Kuffling, that
' s if you see everyone who' s been with parcel, because they
' re very, very good coaches. Seconds is the ability to motivate and
the way, as I just toldyou that he knew exactly what buttons to
press and when to press them andin what way, because there were players

(35:53):
who endured and there were others whodid not. For me it is a
gift of genius and he was thesmall details, because it was not a
single detail and all the practices hadto be precise. And if it was
your turn to line up for tellingyou, I had to run routes as

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a receiver to prepare for the defensivepass, then they would tell me where.
If I didn' t line upexactly in that place. He instructed
him and if he was seeing him, he would scold me personally. But
if it wasn' t Bill Belichewho scolded me, he would tell me
that if I told you to lineup here, you have to line up
here. You have to run yourroute. Not seven, I mean,

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if the route is eight, itdoesn' t have to be seven or
nine anymore, it has to beeight. And everything was minimally accurate how
to prepare. He knew, forexample, we were among the least punished
teams, because he was studying thesquad of referees, from the principal to

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all referees, the one who isthe line judge, the refe, the
ampire, that is, all.And I told you this throws punishments for
this, and this throws punishments forthe other. This one here was called
the line. This one' snot gonna mark a hold on you.
So if you need to grab holdof it, that is, the level

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of preparation in the details that,because you don' t think they would
be relevant, was incredible. Theraul success does not come by chance.
That' s a fact. Noyes, no definitely, I mean,
for success there are no shortcuts.That' s what I say constantly and

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Parcel will be someone who dropped outof school. That' s why he
' s in the Hall of Fameand that' s why his danca-
date assistants are now Dan Camble,John Payton aron Line, who is Detroit
' s defensive coordinator and many areconstantly talking to him and talking to them
every day. Now I already havehis cell phone and he' s already

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like a grandfather. Parcels is anice guy. Good people. He'
s taking the phone call with you. In fact, when my son was
thinking of having a career in theNFL, I asked him that if he
would be in attendance, he wouldagree to talk to him. He had
an hour with my son to givehim advice. I mean, I tell
you, it was very turbulent inmy relationship with Parcel, especially when I

(38:28):
was injured in a match in eighty- eight, making a tackle against the
rams the runner of Gaston Green.And from then on, it was the
beginning of the end of my career, because I could no longer stay healthy.
No, but I mean, outsideof that, I' m telling
you, the relationship with Parcel wasgood from then on from that injury,

(38:52):
because it didn' t treat meso well anymore. Well, now we
' re getting along great. Heygood at this time with giants. It
' s fabulous because you win theSuper Bowl and then you were in another
Super Bowl, but it was stuck. Yeah, well, exactly. I
mean, I started the season ina thousand nine hundred and ninety and I

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started very well. I mean,we beat Philadelphia, which was our cool.
I mean, we beat Washington.Washington the faithful Philadelphia gaba that beat
us. We were the time ofBoddy Rian and Rage Wite and all of
them who were a Random Honningham teamright now. He was about twenty years

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ahead, not of himself of whathe is now in the NFL. No,
but we beat them and we startedthe season very well. In the
third game, I re- throwedthat tug that I used to go through
a de facto game against Miami.I finished the game, but, because
they realized I was bringing and Ididn' t mean, but Benian No.

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If something happened to you, thenthe best of the Internet and television
in one place. Mo ahorita playcalls me par silvano. I' ll
get you out of here by Friday. On Friday we' re going to
have a tri- out you andI at seven in the morning and there
I' m going to make thedecision that whether you play or not to

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play, then, because I wentto rehab. I was getting better.
I had the tri- out.I put all my field goals up to
fifty- two yards that everything hetold me to try I did and I
said ok he' s not gonnaput me in the injured reserve, but
no. An hour later, Ifound out that I was in the injured
reserve. They had signed Mad Barpwho ended up being the team kicker.

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The rest of the season was MaxStalver, who was a very good kicker
with Cleveland later, when Clibans switchedBaltimore with Baltimore and finished his career.
In fact, he played a superbowl with Indiana to Polis who lost to
New Orleans. And there, aftersix weeks, I remember a day that

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sent the cameraman, the videographer ofthe team, to film me. That
' s forerunner you' re goingto get fired, because they want you
first. If you were fired,when you were injured, you could sue
them for a lot. Now andagreement is already part of the collective labor
agreement, but they sign me.Then I said no, because here I

(41:31):
am already valid, but Romeo Penelpleaded for me and defended me and stayed
on the team. So I saidgood, because from now on I became
profo you' re going to competewith bad Bar. Then I said good.
I wanted to stay on the team, because I still had hopes to
be activated. Then I had tobeat Matt bad in all the workouts and

(41:52):
the workouts were intense and usually Ibeat him more times than he beat me.
In fact, I don' tknow if I know if he beat
me. Three were a lot throughoutthe season, but parces kept me on
the team. Along with Stover.We were three players on the team,

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but Parcel said I don' twant to trust myself, I don'
t want to run out of kicker. We have an era, a team,
that' 90s team that ended upbeating buffalo in a legendary game that
you' ll remember the field goalthat Scott No misses in the end,
but that' s that super Bowl. For me I put on the ring

(42:35):
with great pleasure because parcels wanted meto be given neither and I, I
mean, I did the times itran. I was helping Bill Belli che
along with Shonlandeta run paths doing that. I gave everything the scout of the
other kicker we were going to faceand to be said we' re not
going to give him a ring.Or because I put it on with a
lot of pride, because it wouldhave been very easy to give up.

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Don' t say no, becauseI' m not going to play or
get discouraged anymore. I wanted tocompete against bad Bard because I didn'
t want to be discharged. No. Then it was very frustrating. I
thought he was going to play inthe conference championship because he was going to
suffer a shock in the divisional gameagainst Chicago. Today I would not have

(43:22):
played in bat Bar or the conferencechampionship, in the Super Bowl, because
the protocols of cozión, but tome they took me to San Francisco.
They told me to get ready.I practiced like I was gonna kick that
game. It was a game inwhich he scored the most five field goals,
including that of victory, which preventedSan Francisco from doing the famous Freepits,

(43:47):
that is, winning for the thirdyear in a row. And at
the Super Bowl, because I wasthere, I remember sitting down with you
there at the press tables, becauseI was going and there was my name.
I said well, you' rethe only ones who came to say
hello and for a little while.They didn' t stay long, either,

(44:07):
because they wanted to talk to others. But there I remember we were
talking about five, ten minutes.And because that super Bowl was also super
during the Iraq War, the desertwar and ayan Iraq and will remind you
of the Whitney Houston anthem, whichsang it, that I will go fifteen

(44:29):
meters away from where I was,which was awesome. I mean, they
' re really nice memories. Andbesides, because there I was already married,
My wife could be in the stands. It was a bittersweet moment my
dad didn' t want to goand you say you' re not going
to play. I' m notgoing, but my mom was no.
Then it was very emotional and I' m very proud of that ring.

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And I' ll wear it.I don' t wear both friends,
look right now, I don't bring them. I mean, I
hardly ever wear them. But whenI went I had to narrate in the
super bowls or playoffs games. Ialways went with one of the two super
bowls, but not both. Atthe same time look at raul you said

(45:12):
earlier at the beginning you said thatthe Super Bowl changes you for good or
bad. And right now, youremembered Norwood' s flaw in that one
that was the 25th super Bowl eastof giants against the Bulls and Norwood,
unfortunately, because, well you know, he was a great kicker, Scott

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Norwood, extraordinary kicker, but hefailed at the key moment and was marked
forever. And it was unfair because, well, you' re at the
moment of greatest prection that exists inthe sport and I can debate with golfers,
with the beats, that is,at that moment the World Championship depends

(45:59):
on you and one thing is tomiss a pod you lose alone. Another
thing is to fail and lose thewhole team. But Scott Norwood had never
scored a field goal of more thanforty- five yards in natural grass and
the first to be asked to scoreone of forty- seven, that is,
when you haven' t succeeded indoing anything. It' s very

(46:22):
difficult for you to enter with confidence, to enter safely. He did his
best and hit the ball very hard, i e, he actually had plenty
of distance, but he came out, as they would say white Wright,
i e, a little to theright. It was very sad that now

(46:43):
because he gave understanding, we don' t know what would have happened,
no, but there began the streakof four defeats followed by the beats.
That' s right, there's a series of spieden called thirty times
thirty Theory for Theary, which havea program called The Four Falls of Buffalo.
In English it' s called thefor folls of Bufano, because Buffalo.

(47:05):
The city is there near Niaga FallsNiagara Falls. Then, there the
name and started that game. Itwas very closed. Then came Darlas and
it was a tremendous one. Yeah, I mean, it was Dallas twice,

(47:27):
and then the fourth time was Rightnow, it' s getting away
from me, I mean, itwas four Buffalo defeats, and I tell
you, the first one was againstus, that famous game of Tampa and,

(47:50):
as you say, when the WashingtonWash was in fact, they lost
a year after us. They lostto Washington and then went against Dalas and
again against Arlas in Atlanta, whichis when you invited me to the play
show with Raul Urbañanos, which thanksto that I ended up narrating NFL games.

(48:15):
Thanks to you three and you're the culprits. You' re
absolutely right Raul Ahorita, that you' re remembering the other day we were
talking about it because it happened withyears. It was thirty, thirty years
of the play And we were rememberingthose, of some moments, because very
special that were given in the play. And one of those was that play

(48:37):
show that wasn' t yet onSunday, it was on Tuesday. If
I' m not mistaken and youwere raul traveled to Atlanta to be there.
It was pepe I was, Iwas Enrique, I was in that
one on that occasion and well,then you were with us in some super

(48:57):
bowls and then the time came thatpeople were looking for. No, yes,
thanks to the superboats I made withyou. In fact, in the
ninety- four I had the opportunity, following that invitation that you made me
a teacher. I was studying master' s degree and she tells me how
the NFL market is here in theUnited States, in the Hispanic devil market.

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I said I don' t know, but I' m going to
investigate and talk to Wellington Mara,who contacted me with Vald Pynch, who
was the TV president of the nflmsays raúles that you' re talking at
the right time, because we hada Spanish program sponsored by Coca Cola,

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but Telemundo, who was the channelthat transmitted it, just went bankrupt.
I think it was Charter Leven ofreconfiguration of the company and it arises because
Coca Cola is demanding us. It' s part of our global contract with
coke. Then I said, well, he' s inside. I had
no idea I didn' t studyjournalism, I didn' t study communications,

(50:07):
but along with the professor. Weraise capital the best of the Internet
and television in one place. Rightnow I hired producers more or less.
That' s where they set meup. We did a two- year
program for NFL Films, which was, in fact, a program that won
awards. And as a result,the Dallas cowboys invited me to produce and

(50:31):
narrate the preseason games in what isnow called the silver chain. This was
in the nine hundred and ninety-six season. And then they talk to
me and Spian and Fox are done. Going then, there was no Fox
Sports at the time. Here wasa chain called Sports Plan that eventually joined

(50:52):
Liberty mede create Fox Sports a yearlater, but I was with them for
two years. And then, becausethey took the transmission to multivision and I
stayed told me when you' renot going to broadcast to Mexico. It
costs us a lot and I thoughtmy storyteller career was over there. Until

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they talked to me. Alberto Sosaspoke to me one day to narrate the
thirty- five Super Bowl that ifI was interested in going to narrate,
I told him nobde because, ofcourse, we went to Tampa wonderfully.
There they played, in fact,the giants against Boltimore and that was,
therefore, my return to the camerasand the narration of football games. A

(51:37):
year later, you didn' tplay the Super Bowl, but we did
the Conference Championship in San Luis,i e it was San Luis Contatampa Bay,
and in the two thousand two weagreed that I was going to narrate
with you the Super Bowl of ToRaiders against Tampa Bay, but by then
you had contacted me about it wellI did some tests and in November it

(52:01):
was when you hired me to doa football program withÁlvaro Martín. At
that time it wasn' t justnarratives and there was no conflict and I
ended up narrating with you, butit went very well. I think there
was a very good response from theaudience in that super Bowl to the narrative
that Televisa told, at least thelittle company didn' t mistook me,

(52:22):
that is because I was my fearnow, because there was the partner I
said here I' m going tobore and but he behaved very good people
with me. But well this pointand aside there, finishing that super Bowl,
tell me that if I wanted tostart narrating games withÁlvaro then it
was Sunday night and in general,I was narratedÁlvaro and I together sixteen

(52:44):
years.Álvaro' s contract endedin two thousand nineteen. They didn'
t renew mine anymore, as therewere a series of cuts in my spy.
They tell me what July is about. Out there or fourteen of the
nineteen tell me you' re notgonna tell the game anymore. You'

(53:04):
re just going to do study programs. I said okay I' m in
touch with you. I do whatyou tell me and started with another commentator,
ciro for one and the other commentatorand people claimed. In fact,
it went viral and it was sointense, I mean. I was very

(53:25):
excited at the time because people askedme and because they put me again for
the season two thousand nineteen had toldme that in my last assignment it was
going to be the super Bowl fifty- four, that was Kansas City against
San Francisco and that I already did. Although my contract was until twenty-
one, until April twenty- oneI was not going to work anymore,

(53:47):
then this came from the U SLegal Department. I made the season of
the two thousand nineteen with Ciro procunaÁlvaro had already been left out, I
say his contract was finished, therewas no renewal. And then, I
mean, that season didn' tgo very well. That' s what
the super bowl calls it. Ihad to narrate it with the Varela Pablo

(54:09):
Viruega and in addition to the NationalChampionship of the NS where Clemson and he
did State, i e, travelLawrence against Joeburg In what game that was.
And after the super bowl they talkto me and say hey, we
want to see how you get back. There is the possibility of going to

(54:30):
Mexico, but I was going todrastically lower my salary, there was not
going to be benefits, because itwas not an offer that, because it
was very convenient for us, thatis to say, less money. I
didn' t have any benefits.It meant going to live in Mexico City.

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It was very complicated. Then theytold me, okay, let'
s try to make you another offer, but here' s the legal thing,
because they had to cancel a contractand open another one. And then
he gets into the pandemic and thecompany that owns Inespa at Disney had to
freeze. They call it a firmhere, so they don' t fire

(55:14):
you, but they freeze your work. They keep paying you benefits, but
they already pay salaries. Well,they froze forty- three zero employees.
So they told me until those forty- three zeros are reactivated, we can
' t make you an offer anymore. And so it happened until it came
to April twenty- one. He' s still in the pandemic. That
' s when I decided. Isaid, well, I didn' t

(55:36):
work in that period, but Idecided to launch the platform that I have
now, which is called a sportsspecialist, that you and Pepe and Enrique
have done me the honor of accompanyingme on some occasions and that' s
what I' m doing now.But I' m telling you that'

(55:57):
s how it all happened and it' s okay, but my arrival there
is fine, it was thanks tothat super bowl that we narrated that the
Raiders faced Tampa Bay and that,therefore, had very good answer. Yeah,
despite the massacre if we didn't know what to talk about anymore,

(56:20):
right, but we did the transmissionvery interesting, because then we came
up with stories. And so thegood pepe that is known here all the
statistics and the stories, And becauseI complemented him and you trying not to
cry and say well, for thereamong the three we rescued you more or
less because the pain was felt,the frustration was felt and the raul hears.

(56:46):
But also, in a game thatwas decided in two quarters, that
is to say, I don't know that the points came in the
second half, not in the middleof the game was already decided in favor
of Tampa, not totally, andas I tell you, I remember the
receivers of the kings of Tim Brownjade Ras, that is, it was

(57:10):
a gnum of core Back. Buthere Gruden already knew everything they were going
to do, I mean, rememberthat he didn' t report to the
team until a couple of days later, because he was preparing everything they were
going to do, once he reportedalong with his group of coaches to anticipate

(57:30):
what the network team was going tobe to the offensive. And said already,
I knew, I already knew everythingthat was going to happen. Yes,
the truth was tremendous He hears thatwe won' t be bothered by
pepillo, he grabs us this momentwhen you get to the jets of New

(57:50):
York Raul and above all that gamethat we actually had to broadcast and that
I remember that for you it wasvery special, because there was a family,
I don' t know if itwas the exchange or it was another
family, but that it was therein the stadium that day watch They are
two different games. The one withthe family who was at the stadium.

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It was the labor game of theseason of nineteen hundred and eighty- nine
against the reds. That day Iwon the game with a field goal fifty
- two, as long as thefamily in Wacho State had gone to Virginia
to live and as I got themtickets for the game, then they went
by train and at the end ofthe game. In fact, the broadcast

(58:37):
ended very early, because the gametook place in less than three hours and
they didn' t know how tofill in, and I went to greet
Joan Sama Durof who was in thestands, and from there it was even
done there was an article that cameout in Mrs Mysterious' s newspaper,
et cetera. No and the otherJets game, because look in the'
90s or parcel, it is decidedto retire because it had a heart problem.

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I' m talking about May ofnine hundred and ninety- one.
Before that I got raul, becausewe' re going to discharge you.
I read the thanks because, becausethey were fabulous years with the giants and
then I didn' t settle inwith any team. They told me about

(59:24):
the then Houston oil tankers. Iwent to try it out wasn' t
a very well- organized team,much less. Jack Lost was the head
coach and I compared to Pal Celsand said no, because here they are
lost and a team perhaps with moreor more talent than any team I have
played in the giants. It wasWarren Moond, Rake Hieldres and the Ron

(59:47):
and Shout offensive. I mean,he was a cheat who ended up well,
losing that game against Bufflon, notthat season, but later and that
year. I remember you were lostto Washington. In Washington because they stayed
with a kicker who shouldn' thave been on the team. But I

(01:00:10):
didn' t fit in. Butmore bar gets hurt, because then they
made us. Now they' reusing kikops machines. Then we got hard
and give and give. Sometimes wehad as many as sixteen Kikops, the
best of the Internet and television inone place. Right now play in the

(01:00:30):
same practice and in the end youstart to wear out and more veterans like
we were bad Bally and I,then hurtima, I get hired by giants.
I' m there for five weeks. I put all my field goals,
my extra points and the day ofTrans Giving Rade Handley, who was
the coach he took instead of Parcers. He thanks me and I said,
well, I thought, I saidsomething might happen. And it was three

(01:00:54):
weeks and before the game that Iwas going to decide the last postseason position
between the Jets and Miami, whoeverwon that game was going to qualify for
the postseason. The game was goingto be in Miami, as pat lege
and the Jets kicker hurt his back. He can' t kick and they
talk to me and I' mgoing back to New York City on a

(01:01:15):
Tuesday. Temperatures thirty degrees below zeroand there' s the same Fatihight that
I felt degrees. That' swhere the two scales are paired. I
couldn' t train before the game. My first practice was in the Party
Warmings. I mean, I'd never gotten into the guy I was
focusing on, who was really goodat drinking maric and holding on to,

(01:01:37):
who was fighting Geard, but that' s where we caught him. I
didn' t start well, Ifailed my first field goal, but I
got better. We went into rhythmand it was my turn to get to
the end. I mean, Pepehas to remember with a little after-
details. We were winning seventeen thirteenand Dan Marino, being Dan Marino has

(01:01:58):
an offensive series that puts the ball, that is near the area of choice
and launches the pass of Torstown andthe dolphins go up. Twenty to seventeen,
forty- four seconds. We don' t have time, time out.
Johnny Hector has a big comeback fromKikov, Kenny or Brian, who

(01:02:20):
was the runner who started connecting andFreeld McNeill was missing six seconds. I
thought they were trying fifty- two- yard field goals. The ball was
on the thirty- five yards.I' m sorry on thirty- eight
seven yards. Backward was forty-two. But then cost the head coach

(01:02:45):
sends an attraction and freelm move.Mcneils is leaving for two seconds and I
enter a forty- four- yardfield goal. We' re going on
overtime. I don' t rememberanymore. I think we lost the blow.
I don' t remember the truth, but it was our turn to
kick the 30- yard field goaland the Jets hit the playoffs. A

(01:03:08):
week later we were going to playagainst the oil tankers and pite Kierro,
who was the defensive coordinator, hada master plan, a masterful game plan.
We frustrated them, but Colsmet,thinking it was the explosive offensive of

(01:03:28):
erased Mond, decided to play itin fourth power three times instead of kicking
the field goals. And there wasthe different one we lost. I think
seventeen to ten of those three fieldgoals got us up. They had relatively
short field goals, that is,less than thirty- five yards, and
so was that match against the Jets. My greetings to my dear pepe that

(01:03:51):
buro that were raul history, thetruth, what a journey, what experiences,
how many characters it was for youto share with him, they dressing
and then, to be knowing themand obviously, you also developing, because
a fabulous career, not a careerthat good. It took you to win

(01:04:14):
a super good two Super Bowl ringsactually, though in one unfortunately, you
couldn' t play, but agreat race, no doubt, raul and
everything and everything started, because foran exchange. It' s really the
way things happen all of a sudden. Things don' t happen to us
all of a sudden. You neverknow I mean, you have a plan,

(01:04:35):
you have a marked path in yourlife, but there are many deviations
and those visions take you to placesyou didn' t anticipate, like the
invitation you made to me to play. I was never ever going to think
I was going to end up beinga commentator. I have a civil engineering
degree and I have a lot ofmanagement and I don' t do,

(01:04:59):
because practically none of that. Notthen do I tell you you never know,
but I am always grateful to youfor giving me that other career,
which, then, is the oneI try to practice. Right now,
I' ll tell you, onmy side, with my platform. But,
then, I try to keep onwaging war, not and besides,
the social networks that have not broughtus so close now. Fortunately, there

(01:05:20):
we follow raul I send you abig hug. What a pleasure to be
in touch with you, a hugfor the whole family. You said earlier
that your son tried to try himin football and what happened Mira. In
fact, he worked six years threeduring the University with the Houston Tejalos team

(01:05:42):
during the summers between seasons and wasalready on as they say here, in
other words, as an intern withthe three- season Jaguares de jackson Ville
and had a fourth with Washington.But what had good here is another subject
from another. What you' veheard about toxic culture. You can'

(01:06:04):
t imagine what it really was liketo be inside that question. There came
a time when he had to resign. He said I can' t do
this anymore He' s doing negativeharm to my mental health and in the
middle of the season two thousand twenty- one decided to give them up.
He was in Utility, in theQuidman Room, that is. He was

(01:06:28):
with Texans, he was with jacksonvilfables those experiences with both teams, but
with Washington he was telling me thatyou have no idea about that, about
toxic culture. People read it,but until you live it, you don
' t know what it' sabout. That' s exactly why all
the owners wanted Mr Snydersde out.No yes, no that was I say

(01:06:50):
he had a history of sexual abuse, but the way they treated employees,
the quality, that is, thecompletely ruined facilities, the mistreatment, the
neglected stadium. I wasn' tsaying I wasn' t anymore. For

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me the most exciting thing, becauseit' s very complicated hours. He
worked twelve fourteen hours a day.I didn' t have a tinscore,
Christmas, New Year' s,or anything. But he says all those
sacrifices. It' s worth iton the day of the game, because
you' re in the middle ofit and he had a very important position,

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because I' m going to sendyou a picture that' s going
to give you a lot of laugh, but well, that' s private
between you and me, but fromhim in the band to see the contact
he had. But he tells menow I don' t even enjoy the
games Dad' s no longer worthit. Then I said no. There
' s no point in you continuingto torture yourself or ending up giving up,

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as a hug for him, forthe whole family, Raul, for
you, ma' am, ofcourse, thank you. Thank you for
your glory too Thank you. Thankyou, Raul. He sends you a
big hug and I hope very soonwe can say hello to that. I
hope so. Thank you, Raul. Cheerful to us. You know,
give her the bell, give herlike, and we' ll all say

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