Pasamos del descenso a pelear por el título | José Luis Sánchez Solá | Todos con Toño

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Episode Transcript

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And then being the Chelles. Yes, yes, I understand that I lay
many calluses and take off but fromfriends, I take off from people that
I literally esteem, but that nowadays, from what I say and from what
I see, I do not seemto want anymore, for wanting to belong
to the bad so- called family. Mexican football is a family. He

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has nothing to look at that family. The only game that I' m
going to cry that Pavio lives,the only game that my dad saw,
because and with goal already started tomake clowns and I ended up in part
time. They called me cheles we' re winning two zeros are assholes,

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but we could win ten. Peoplewant to see ten. I remember a
sves tiger player who declared a verygood day of these ten is that he
had tigers, declared one day thathe only played when God or told them.
I said. Imagine these nine molestalking friends welcome all with toño and

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the truth is that we really wantto talk with the famous Chels. José
Luis Sánchez sun is with us todayand we thank you very much, my
dear Chels. How nice to sayhello to you. Thank you, how
envious you gave me why last week, hand, my fellow phentans, I
say caran goes as he is affrontedin this. I have to do something

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in eight days. I' mhere because I offend or I pass you
the truth. A great human being. Yes, great human being and great
technician. Cheperas are also chopped stoneup and down. And at the end
of the day, I hope you' ll be told about the town today.
That' d be nice. Iwish? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
I wish, the situation. Thesituation is not easy with but if

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there is head and there is leadershipand they listen to him, because he
knows all the issues within the teamand he listens to him, it will
be something greater than what they aredoing. Right now, José Luis,
how you doing in me, theyfire you how those boys treat you.
I' m very grateful because theytook me already. I had been warned
that if I left I would nolonger take myself and leave and then in

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pandemic, in the middle of apandemic, they took me back from your
house and then the truth. I' m very grateful. I really like
sitting with the light, with thetalk, making games of what I like
the most. But at the endof the day, I understand it'

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s not. It' s notvery strong. It' s not very
strong. There are many hours beforethat you can' t stand them.
If it were all sitting around andI could light you up and talk about
football, I could spend 24 hoursa day. But it' s not
like that. That' s ajob, and besides, we have to

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move from town to Mexico City.I didn' t live here for two
years, I studied and worked onthe streets and was the happiest man living
in Mexico. This one doesn't scare me anymore. I' m
scared because things have happened to meand yes, yes. It' s
really dangerous, but it is.I need to be in focus. And

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if you' re not in aspotlight, that you already named it,
you named it I called it andit' s okay, then people forget
about you. Yeah, yeah,it' s important to be real.
It' s important to be onthe candlestick to be seen. And in
the end I didn' t understandthat agenda and there were a lot of

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company boards and they talked about theagenda to people and I say what the
Güey agenda will be where I anus. So what you have to do in
the day, not the schedule,is that you have to talk to the
truth. No. People are waitingfor the truth and you don' t
have to have preferences as I didn' t know, I followed straight ahead

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and you do step on a lotof calluses. At the end of the
day, clues, many calluses,you close, many doors, you believe,
many enemies, but you meet thecompany, which is the one that
pays me clear, At the endof the day, you are committed to
no. No, not me,my commitments to the company. They hire
the chelis as it is not,as if as a path, as a

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stronghold to accomplish something else. Thechelis and then being the chelis. Yes,
yes, I understand that I laymany calluses and take off but from
friends, I take off from peoplethat I fiercely esteem, but that nowadays,
from what I say and from whatI see, I do not think
José Luis hears not ju this professionalfootball. Yeah, yeah, did I

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play? Yeah, you made it, yeah, yeah, I played,
did I play? I was preseasonedby Atlético de Madrid in the eighty-
two. I played second Division B. When I saw the second division at
the Autonomous University, the Autonomous PopularUniversity of Pueblas, I spent two seasons.
There I was with Manuel la Puentein the seventy- nine eighty in

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the village trained in the first teamin professional resedad. I never made first
division. If that' s notplaying football. Yeah, if you played,
I played, I played, college. Everything I played in high school,
all school, all that, Iplayed this amater everything, but not
professional, in first division and Iwould trade you everything for an Aztec game,

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for a game in Mecca. Iwould change everything for you. That
is to say today I live whereRoberto lives, Roberto Luis Esparza jal sent
him a greeting and truthfully. It' s admirable to me. I'
d change everything for playing a gamewhere it dries up and it was nothing
bad. I was totally disciplined,but it was nothing bad. What a

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great time when I wanted to havefun center forward and I got to score
championships when I did serious central defense. When the time comes to say you
know what. I' m notgoing to become a first division player,
I' m not going to getit immediately comes the idea of being a

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technical director. After many years,still married and with a daughter, the
Great. I still played second division. With my daughter, the Great,
I played in the Canajan Soccer League, which is an ontuary league in Toronto,
and they spent many years until theninety- five INDIT opened. Then

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I went to indit, to thefirst people of the INDIT and for wanting,
already for wanting to belong to theso- called Mexican football family.
My family doesn' t have anythingLook at the fact that many families are
disfunctioning, but not as much asfootball. So, for wanting to keep

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participating in this and I got inand the truth went very well. My
compadre says it mentions orifica, theonly honorable mention of that generation. My
dear Lalo. Today I was Yocaon the recording. I address the words
to the graduates, but well,then I take advantage of it more than

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I do and then you graduate astechnical director. And then to find a
friend b Atlisco, who owned manythings through a brewery, we compared a
third division franchise. It was calledto the superiors of Cisco and you'
ll imagine why superiors. Not sure, and we did a year in third

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division. Very good. Very good, very good, very good. This
was in the ninety- seven andin the ninety- eight being in the
World Cup of France, but welived in Barcelona, we went to our
headquarters and went to the games ofMexico and we returned and in one of
these returns in a hotel we foundPaco Bernat, who came from Italy to

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buy the town. Paco Bernate wasan acquaintance of school people different from mine
school rivalries, but well, youknow when you meet one of your city
outside the country. He' syour best friend, and that' s
where he tells us he' sjust bought the pola and he' s
counting on my son. Sure,when I came back, he told me

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to do a basic force project.I said to myself in the tower.
So I gave him this so myproject and Gustavo Moscoso delivered this project.
I mean, it was certainly muchbetter. He liked Moscoso that mine just
asked Gustavo Moscoso in front of meto organize between Paco' s name and

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the one he liked to take outone more square, a rectangle and put
Chelise tavo. He put me onand learned a lot with Gustagua a lot,
a lot of taste and I startedin the thirty- one of August.
On August thirty- one, ninety- eight, I started a basic

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force paco project with a taste ofthings. You started to work and got
into the team of Puebla, becausefull with the kids, but completely the
coordinating year I didn' t carryany teams. Every day we met at
the office. In the morning Ihad maquiladoras. I would have gotten into
a financial problem and the case untilyou fell down so I could pay this

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off of what I owed maquiladoras.I had three maquiladoras. In the state
in villages and for me it wasalready a problem because it comes to you
that it was with taste mosquito everyday in the office eight or in the
morning and could not go fail thebest of the Internet and television in a
single morita play place and in theafternoon we opened four categories of chaus There

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were third, second that we leftthem half in standby still participating, but
they did not train in the morning. Our fort was the process that we
were going to make of five yearswith the new categories, and there I
entered like. He' s gone. He left, like, two years
later, he left as an assistantto me, I told Man. He

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left this. I thought they weregonna give me the address. They gave
it to José Luis Sarce, whoalso learned it a lot José Luis Garce,
but I went getting in, gettingin, getting in, and the
Puebla started Opack started this from theaccounts. We had four teams, with
six different first division teams, witheight teams. We had a fabulous league

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from Morelia. Now the Hannold,Morela Pachuca, Tolucas, those of Mexico.
Worse, then two teams were traveling, two categories were traveling to that
place and two teams of them werecoming. Then it was every weekend,
but there was spending or clear travelor arbitration, and there were two weeks
that the money didn' t comeout. I put it the then,
through this, I went getting in, getting in, getting in, getting

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in, getting in, getting in, getting in, getting in, until
I got the strength. You didn' t keep the more, yes,
but you never stopped seeing a redone. I came in a normal role
and I told Paco, to hisbrothers you owe me this week, so
much of this, so much ofthis, so much of this, because
I brought them so much from thetruck, so much from the box loges
so much And so they didn't find out if it was true they

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saw it from the salaries, bothfrom coaches, preparers, physicists, the
psychologist, the food, everything,everything, and they paid me. But
this is how he can cry outto me. And then, after you
' re in charge of basic forces, we' re going down the team,
down the team, and Paco disappearseverything and nothing else. It'

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s left with a second division,it' s all about basic forces.
And the second in charge of meand the next year we played the final
against Gallos, which was the timethey brought a Menoti, which Emilio already
put in and we lost the finalas well and then we lost it on

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a Sunday. I' m goingto the game. We had already lost
a village with meno. Already onSunday in Queretaro Menoti already appeared to us,
because came the World Cup of notknowing what had commitment to play the
television case that the final, finalfinal, we played and mint and wins
chava kings. And on Monday thedraft started in Mexico and I went with
Paco and being there with Paco,he first gave up the franchise to a

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Cetich who headed to Veracruz. Theheadquarters Veracruz was in charge of everything,
but I kept it in Puebla andthen Paco told me. Now help me
sell the players. He expects themto take care of the players. Then
all morning selling players, we sell, we sell, we sell, we
sell, and at one o'clock in the afternoon, the Federation happens

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to say that they were taking newfranchises to squares and then Veracruz said so,
you know what chete, Paco,go with all your team and I
get expensive with the Federation we nolonger had players and tells me Paco,
you know that jellys a and theyhave a week, that is, from
that Monday to Friday, because youthink it lasted two days that they have

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a week for more their team.The Federation gave us this time because a
year earlier Irapuato and Queretaro had disappeared. And then, automatically, we took
the last percentage place and the Federationsaid well, the one who goes down
we were teaks and another one outthere, the one who goes down the
Federation is going to give five milliondollars. I didn' t know that

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given then Paco said take care ofthe whole team because if I don'
t disappear like I want to disappear, because I don' t have the
slightest desire to be here, Ialready lost everything. You take over the
team. I give you, youmake a team of six hundred thousand pesos
and we compete nothing more. Don' t defend him. Second time tablecloth
goes there. In second and then, with Luis Enrique Fernández, all week

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we assembled a team with the basicforces that no longer had any place,
that there was, that already workedon something other than true. With that
we assembled the equipment and at theend of the day, two foreigners were
allowed. A brother told me tolisten to why you don' t hire
the ball and I tell him becausethe ball wins the budget to see your
brother. Yeah, and he saysno. I' ll pay you on

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the outside. Bring the bowl,you guarantee eight goals. You' re
gonna pay for it. Yes,it comes out, I bring the ball,
the vulgola González and already promoters.And I start to know promoters and
promoters if they brought you every firecrackerwhat you said you didn' t have
two and the or was one andmissing a day, two days to start,

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I met the Russian that with Menotiwe made preparation pads with a team
called Federal Police. And the Russianplayed here and played there, played in
many parts and in one of theteams played in light and sitting next to
my own and that they were fourmade me his four, because I left
a month to make preseason of Argentinawith them representing Puebla. He tells me

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the only one who plays football ofthe twenty- two is that of the
Greñas, the Russian Ramo Hitly,and it stayed recorded and I was still
missing one, already by means ofwhich the phone of this phone of the
other, as if the same Russianarrives and tells me I will leave tomorrow
I return to Argentina and to theRussian already Harto. I don' t

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come to tests, I don't come to anything. I mean,
don' t go up to theoffice. You sign the contract. We
' re gonna pay you little,but it' s a place in football,
it' s a safe place.Sure, he tells me. I
' m not running tests. Upthe cinema and firm up, firm plays
on Sunday. We tied up,so we made our debuts. We tied

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up and there it was the teamformed of basic forces totally with the Russian
and with the Bora, the sameteam that is aware. And that was
your first game as a technical director, in the first team that pushed me
to the minute six seven, becauseI didn' t know that. I

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don' t, no, Ialso the habit of being in the drawer
that filthy aha that you paint andin a detached from them I get out,
I get out with as you remember, once I hit it got in
yes, yes, I didn't want to get in, but I
ran next to the striker that ranaway from me Güey, but I outside

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that I exposed myself when your presentation. No, but with stadium closed,
because in the last match Junta Querétarohad armed riots and closed the state of
a party. So, in mydebut he went to the door closing against
Lobos and in the end we tiedtwo. Second Monterey montra game, we
lose now, Emilio is already gettingnervous and I was carrying the owner'

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s lever. Emilio, Emilio wasa director and whatever you tell me and
send me, but Emilio maura did, third parties leaving. I already wanted
to run third game against Tampico.The only game I' m going to
cry my dad saw, the onlygame my dad sent. It was like

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this and with goal of Arias,goal of Perón, nine s we won
you Ulmo and tor we did notpeel again. We' re really not
going to listen and your dad afterthat game couldn' t do it anymore.
Had. He had a tight belland as soon as he arrives,

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his last ray of light was gonethat if he distinguished the game an uncle
nsit, that is, all afterthat game. Well, I didn'
t recognize you anymore or anything,I mean, I was already talking about
training, I wasn' t goinginto the bench, and this guy who
was talking ended up why how yousaw him, what, what I moved

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him, what they were bringing home, what they were bringing to the house,
what they were bringing, what theymean, no longer, no longer,
I didn' t hook you upand face, I don' t
remember. It was hard, notsure, imagine what I remember about the
Spanish woman from Ahorita who scored.I mean, yesterday I found out that
Dad had been dead for two daysand they didn' t tell him.
They didn' t tell him,they didn' t tell him until after
him. In fact, they celebratedand after the celebration it was the one

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that told them. Yes, ifit had been very hard. You know
who I founded a lot of Osvaldo, too. Of course, in Germany
Osvaldo Sanchez did, but he did. They told him and he came back.
He left again for the World Cupand then no longer lost ah to
mexicense. But let' s havein the first place, not also who
in the last place stage of theroom, we played, but I know

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and it was the last place andit gives you the bad played and we
lost a Saturday and on Sunday,Emilio comes down and I find him sitting
in my breakfast room in my placebesides Güey and tells them you don'
t have to tell him how Ihave that because the goal was not to
go down a second time. Noand he didn' t, he already

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wanted to ascend after what happened tohim last semester. Yeah, and I
tell him to see, Emilio,I mean, thank you coming that'
s your house. We' llhave breakfast whatever you say and send.
We' re going to talk toPaco and we' re going to talk
to the other shareholders, because Ididn' t know if you remember that
there was a group called La Chiquillada, that they put money in with a

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prize, they put in expense andif the team went up multiplied, for
I don' t know if youput in two million, they touched you
twenty and those were my friends fromforty years ago. We' re going
to Chiquillas and tell him we're going to talk to Eddie to Ti
and we' re going to talkto Paco to see what he thinks.
It doesn' t go, well, obviously, chelis and don' t
listen to him. We' velost that already. No. Me,
no, no, no, no, no, no. Nothing. Final,
salamanca in Salamanca and we won championsthe first round the best of the

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Internet and television. In one moritaplay second lap we made a magnificent place
by force of Emilio. I wantedto bring Juan Camaney and he brought two
forwards. It' s just thatthe ball won' t hold you,
but how come it won' ttell you the ball. Well, we
brought Prieto Ay and Dynamite. Oneof the atlas told him in the Mexican

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dynamite, Dynamite isn' t herenow. I remember his name. The
case is that the Bo the holder. At the end of the day,
a semi- final holder. Welost to Leon this one we already have
a very big trot. We spentten days concentrated in a house of an
acclisco that had many rooms. That' s where I took the team.
We were focused there to wait forthe champion. The champion turned out to

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be golden and there we tied oneand in Pola we beat him and the
team came back to the first divisionand I already wanted to go I mean,
for me I had fulfilled. Mykids were already known, my kids
were going to play first division.It is left who kept my promise,
for the Cheroke, praying, theCabe, the Tato, the Villalpando al

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zamba, there were all ruiz.Then he was a good gruto. My
son was somehow every day in basicforces. I told them, being strict,
to put in that the one thatone day would come to the opportunity,

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would arrive already reached them, theyhad already reached it and they had
already taken it forward. I didn' t have any other players. You
don' t think I had muchto choose from either. And then I
would draw a game of first divisionand retire. I' m going back
to my basic force kids, whichis what I liked and went play Jutra

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La América de Tena. It's the first game of first division,
the gaute we tied. I'm going to the middle of the field
and I' m telling you," godico" and going into the dressing
room, my friends grab me andsay" cho the little girl" We
start together, we leave together.I already stayed ah suffering us, suffering

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when he had match and against thevera crude. Against this. We saved
ourselves. We' re saved,we' re saved. We spoke to
this day. Hey shilling when youtalk about your style, you talk a
lot about making a group, buta very strong group with the players.

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I don' t know if alsowith the technical body but, I mean,
what your features are to have ateam that really IT is very easy.
You looked at how to talk toGloria that I do better. Gloria
who likes you right now, shelikes me better if there' s the
akaté there. I think, Ithink it' s very good. I

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think I make a frame. They' re footballers, they' re not
an engineer, they' re nota doctor, they' re not a
trainer. They are footballers, allof them of better or worse quality,
but they are footballers and I createa framework for them to develop. And
the frame is in his family.I mean, if you have his family,
happy they take the problem away fromthem. Then I take care of

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your schools, I take care ofyour houses, I take care of the
light, I take care of parties, I take care of carla wife,
take her out and be in placestogether. I throw five hundred parties to
die the friendship of the hallowe inthe east, the other, the whole
team and then the biggest joke.Well, that' s my joke with

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my family, which helps me alot, my daughters and my wife helped
me a lot, because it's hard to put families or bowling alleys
together. This guy' s wifehas a better van and this one'
s bag against the other son's shoes. Not then someone who was
in the middle to say that sandalis already beautiful, but also your boot
is beautiful among them, among womenalready and it' s the biggest joke

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is that it surrounded me from peopleI hire people a lot of smart moms
than I do. So it isthat there is not only one who does
not have chama today, or whohas not succeeded today of those who have
worked with me to see me well, obviously Russian, the Russian is Joaquín
Velázquez in the selection of Peru,the brother of Fentans Osvalu Camsetti Leon Bruno,

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the goalkeeper who was in Ciudad Juárezde Toluca. Of all your life
your distant was to meddle in forgivenessif I forget any. There' s
no güey. Everyone has chama,everyone is in chama and everyone has triumphed
in football Ton tens to remember thatvillage of Nacho Trelles, that people of

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the Alliance, that distrust or America, and it was suspended and again exactly
touched that town, by hand thebridge, that town. He was very
brave, my brave, he wasto me. It was spectacular. Hey.
Luis Enrique Fernández, Luis Enrique HugoFernández, of course, yes and
it wasn' t a spectacular town, but Gutierrez was killed, there was

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a half Gutierrez, the pocho Gutierrez, that was fantastic that ten and I
tell you they weren' t trainingthe alpha I of Chavito was going to
have alphadosa ador nacho that rested inpeace and it was such a town.
Then it was Emilio' s villages, then the villages of which they were
spectacular. As for players, yes, but good because they had the Aravena

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mortar man. He had for methe best player who' s ever bobbled
a town. For me it isMurici, Ramallo Muris, of course they
did not neo, had people,had a village, had the village,
had the Parcelino Vernal, had ArturoÁlvarez, the mangosco to. It was
a truly spectacular team. The Ceballoschampions, Eddie Valdo and this one,

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but there was no ge coming,not that one, but because aside,
that was champion and the part aboutwhether that team was spectacular, but I
knew what people liked. Then mymission was beyond the result, to do
this and then, if you didit right, if you did it right,
you won the second game in AscendingLeague, we did it and we

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got in. My problem was notto know if we were going to win
or lose, but how many goalswe were going to score, because after
the twelve they were thrown at me, they were starting to be clowns and
I ended up in half time,but they called me Chelise we are winning
two zero are assholes, but wecould win ten. People want to see
ten. Then the mission was toscore the first goal. There was no

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celebration to grab the courage and putin the center of the field. If
they were celebrating, it' sjust that we weren' t into putting
the ball in the middle of thefield and we were going for the second.
And that way people, the samenine thousand of every week and in
the end it fills you know noyes, yes, yes, of course,
the same nine and you know wherethat phenomenon doesn' t happen in
th the Baiser. I don't know if you noticed yesterday in the

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game that you had to narrate thebase all green and a red spot.
Yeah, a red speck, Imean, the fan of the bais,
yeah, he' s into pericos. Yeah, sure, they' re
really perician fans and they' redoing great. Hey, these directives.
Yeah, he' s doing verywell. Yeah, that' s good,
because the truth is that it's a team of enormous tradition talking

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about it is an example of whatpeople are. What you don' t
understand is an example of what peopleare. Son. So, we are
rare, because they are also rarejarochos and they are also rare amulitecos and
captain and don' t tell meand don' t tell me my yukatecos
compadres, that I also had tolive there. We' re all weird.
Well, bend over to that place. Sure, sure, I remember.
When you ran cos Mira, theytraded him Tecos students for what engineer,

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because he' s going to bea team for the student community.
And I say well, I haveto understand the students. Then training.
Now at ten o' clock andI got into classes at the university from
seven to eight and eight to nineI went to classes of whatever I was
knocking on the door look at theanswer God knew who I was, I
can or his class, just asI didn' t sit listening and philosophy,

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mathematics of whatever the class was.I was absolutely worth a hat to
see what they were doing, withhow these student boys behaved and on that
basis I made them the team ins is that to see where you are
you have to do it, noyes, and obviously they feel it and
they feel it. And it wascalled Tecosbus students for students. Let'

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s see what all the students dowhen when, why you leave Puebla is
the first time and what happened toyou at that time. I' m
out in two thousand eight because mybuddy why take the team in the draft,
he didn' t want promoters oranything to get into his guns then.
Put the gear on the draft.There was no room for anyone anymore.

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Obviously, failure. I was nine. I have nothing with them and
besides, I loved nine Christians.I had then said like this, what
do I remember of a player,very good tigers who declared one day,
very good of these ten is thathe had tigers, declared one day that
he only played when God told them, I said whore. Imagine these nine

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Gods don' t speak to themon the same day. Then I followed
them to their talks. You don' t know what' s so beautiful,
so organized, so famous. I' m a Catholic, but we
do take it another way and thenI got in. I messed with them
as a Christian on Tuesdays we wentto talk music dinner daycare for the children,

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not a fabulous thing to understand them. At the end of the day,
the painter took us on September 13. They thank me. The best
of the Internet and television in oneplace. Morita play the team. Go
on, go on, go on, go on. There' s a
lane on this one The other one' s going preseason. I am going
to live Acapulco and meet Tomás Boya, Carlos Reinos there and then it was

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fabulous, as it continued. Itwas fabulous because we played Gulfus four every
morning. The competition was between Charlesand Thomas who rest in peace a few
vanities. The field was watered withvanities to the cannon son to see who
threw better, who was the best, it was proc who was right.

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And so I spent five or sixmonths living in Acapulco, with these,
with this tertia and in December theygave preseason and in the night they would
escape from the hotel, the playerswould go to my house and this night
Lís returns, returns güey, becauseI would return tomorrow. Sorry not to
talk. The case is that theyneeded twenty- six points to save themselves

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from the descent for the next seasonand on the 20th of November, twenty
of December they speak to me.She' s a little girl and Paco
tells me she comes out and saysno. I' ll tell him if
you take everyone from me, youleave me these sixteen in the dressing room.
I' m in the dressing room. Twenty- one I count them
and I see those sixteen faces.I' ll stay if I don'

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t leave, I can' t, children and I don' t have
or why if you brought them all. Paco, Talia, on the twenty
- two we see twenty- twocenters s sts I see the faces the
sixteen that I told him then willbe the cykes that had ascended and I
tell them to see if we haveto go down no better than us to

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descend it, for we ascend itif we succeed in extinguishing the fire,
for it is good. Not ifwe can' t turn it off,
or how we' re gonna doit, son, then we' re
gonna make a co- op.We made a cooperative between me and the
sixteen. No one could get in, no one could get out if we
didn' t agree. The sixteen. Then it comes to me there is

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calamba of the Osorno atlas. Iget Osorno like this, a belly like
that and some slaps so I wanteda chance from Osorno, but celles veil
the? La? La? La? La? La? La? Then
I tell you to see let's give him the chance Güey, because
he' s a good player,not a gambler, no, but in
the good way. We' lltake it down. I didn' t
hire him in the day. Soif we go on Tuesday and at the

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end training, I' d tellhim I' d come out tomorrow or
you' d come tomorrow. Ifit was up there, I' d
pay him his day and good-bye bastard like that for two weeks,
like that for the third week.Now it' s going on a week.
The time has already come that permonth and u per season in the
same period of a preseason and reachedDavino from the back door. I got

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out of Dallas badly and one dayI grabbed here in a game at Blue
Stadium with a puppy and said heyche Les. I' m very interested
in how you play in a descent. That' s what I' m
missing in my career. I'm telling you, you didn' t
get to college. This is college. They got it. There' s

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so much if you want to bedelighted, we' re guided like that,
but I went with the players ina partition. It' s not
too cool to. Nothing. It' s coming from Na America. I
tell you to see Masters have thesame interest as you. He wants to
know what a descent is. Wesee it. It turned out to be
the leader of the team and soI came to all those who came to

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me we would gather together sixteen andvote and so I got the peron to
a coast and that team was theone that reached the semifinal. Exactly counterpumes.
First we saved, no, firstwe saved, yes, we made
the twenty- six points. Youwould automatically go into the liguilla and then
the league and I told them mylife. We' re here. I
had been taught that the garter wasa party you had with your girlfriend.

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But your Coscoline girlfriends, you can' t leave her for a second.
You can' t be a pee- pee. If you go to the
bathroom, wait for me, I' ll pee, I' ll come
back and they' ll take itdown. No, and this one I
tell you, we' re gonnaenjoy the party with our girlfriend. She
said nothing else, let' snot leave her, but let' s
enjoy the party. We' reinvited. We don' t have the

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invitation Forget about the clothes. Wehave an invitation and we went, we
went, we went and we leftthe bride a second iberdon to score us
and it takes the girl away fromus. We' re leaving. And
because of me, totally because ofme, why, because I was on
the bench next to the tucar andthe tuca was made a lion, not
like I' ve always made alion and yells at him to see it

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is missing nothing a minute amber eighty- nine ninety yells at Verón b in
a fault I don' t staylike this saying see that to what this
güey Gobron goes. I had totell the bun with him. Of course,
my ball was a better pitcher thanVerón was a kempist the ball,
because I kept seeing just as sayingand this one who aspires or what mother

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goal veronca who ate it, becauseI saw there I was counting well,
compadre, was the toucher the indicationand I had to have told the bowl
sees it accompanied, cab But athousand to a thousand, that is not
a thousand nine hundred ninety- ninethousand, that the ball beats him,
wins his head and that was alreadyin semifinals, not semifinals. The last

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few minutes. Yes, at thelast minute, the first time in my
life that I see the technician huggingthe other technician came the touch and hugged
me, I say in this güeywhat a bastard I mean. It was
already a triumph for me. Everything, not everything, was a triumph for
my players. I didn' twant to make it to the final was
they regretted what you tell me andI say these we did wonders bastard and

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then what happened to we made thebest team. The following year we made
another, another and that passes tosaso with better players. We were still
undefeated. To date, five.He had an Enaine problem with Paco and
I sweated some other people' sfever and I leaned on the Paco side
when it was a two- wayproblem. It wasn' t my problem

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He said no He gave you whowas right and who wasn' t right.
It was a two- way problemand we played counter- puma and
ended the game and I told themPaco was in jail. I put him
in on Friday, Sunday we playedPumas and he' s just leaving,
I said goodbye no, but howhave you been to God. This can
' t be the, the lala and Paco brought me, pau is

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unfairly in jail. This agen fevercame in ventans. It was the two
games he told you he ran fromPuebla. Yeah, it was the technical
body. He led two games andI' m out That was two thousand
ten later. From there I wentto Tamaulipa, I went to Los Angeles,
I went to Mérida, I wentto Veracruz, I was at my

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game. The worst team with allrespect to my compadres that I' ve
ever had to direct that veracru toevicted. I didn' t know.
I had played in my life inline of four. That' s where
I had to play four- waybecause I just had two centrals. I
mean, I couldn' t playanything else. And we saved ourselves.
Atlanta was going, Atlanta was going, okay, okay, okay, and

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they started fighting each other. Theystart fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting
and going down, going down,going down, going down, going down,
going down, going down? Webeat the lion, the wonder lion,
the wolf lion, there we beathim, impossible to win a steel
and we saved ourselves and they saidof the clear Atlanta. Yeah, of
course they fought you between them.The bread parromero played exactly there the bread

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pa romero. And the barromero breadfights with Cherokee who was in Atlante as
well and then there a division iscreated and that division favors Veracruz and we
will not save it. I wasgoing to stay next year with the son.
He wouldn' t take me toFideal' s son and I wouldn
' t take him. What's more, son Fidel, my friend.
Fidel asked me many times to happenmyself. I tell your son how

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I' m going to run yourson, you run him if he'
s your head son, I don' t tell him if you want,
I give him a job, Iput him to work with me. I
' m taking you in on this. No. No, no, no,
no, no, Chamaco a lotwas very young, he was a
junior at the time to the boyno and at the end of the day,
the char didn' t notice.He saw me as an enemy and

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goodbye to the next season that wasme Happy and veracrus and people were happy
and the good stadium arrived. Normally, when a team hooked up in Veracruz
it was a party. Each gamewas an abuse piece, fabulous, Veracruz
was fabulous and then chiris. Thenin Mérida, this little girl comes back

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and buys Merida shares from Noya's dad and the footballer. Noya'
s dad was a great American Expressexecutive and he' s compensated with that
wool. I imagine because of thewarmness of football, he buys the team.
The son plays there and my friendslater, Geo Ryalt wants to get

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out and my friends buy a partand tell me, but with you I
do and say no. No.Not me, Chetris bastard, we'
re together and there I' mgoing to give America and there we were
on my two seasons. I hada great time, too. I also
knew a lot of things I didn' t know and at the end it
came very much that I said notone more day, not one more day.
I turned the vegas in this apreamble, I returned to the village.

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I was on, I was onroads with the best pay of my
life, the best pay of mylife. I got paid by the government.
Totally. I got paid by thegovernment. But because of the social
problems I had and one good day, the owner of the village, who
was in the times of ownership,speaks and tells me they no longer wanted

(40:29):
x rulers, they did not wantme to return. For example, I
already convinced the rulers this twenty andtomorrow I present you in preseason, that
is, as the best of theInternet and television in one place, Morita
play will tell you these very small. You look just like me. Yeah,
we' re u ho like yourfirst girlfriend talks to you and visits

(40:50):
a cafe. Your first girlfriend,ah that' s not going you go
Güey, because she' s yourfirst girlfriend to have coffee. I said
clear, sure, sure, thenmy first girlfriend and there I go up
to the office and I say thankyou. But, Chelise, how are
you going to leave us the nextday Mr Governor' s report? There,
I guess in a row from thefront I didn' t fake the

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Güey report. Not anymore, forI did call them at the tip of
the neck. Quite rightly, Ihave a huge debt to Tamaulips. I
went back to Pola and so I' m in a week tomorrow, Chelis,
Tomorrow, Chelis, tomorrow, Chelise, and it comes Sunday after a
week and you tell me what chelisthose who said no and said yes say
no. Well, he pays memy month, he tells me both feelings.

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The only thing I can do iswrite me a check of what I
was going to earn a month fora week and the next day this Don
Jorge Dillonario Cannon speaks to me.I' ve never talked to a person
more billionaire than him and he bringsme here to fields, elliptical fields for
the benefit of coca cola. That' s not the building. Yeah,
yeah, he' s in hisapartment and I' m just thinking about

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going to L A And then hewas talking and talking and talking and I
' m saying, give me mycontract, I' ve already been.
Jorge Vergara, Mr Jorge Vergara,it was a fabulous plan, I had
a hair, a plan said no, no, no, you were fabulous.
It was jusa chiva he was andhe had a partner, he already

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had half the team he and hisplan was. He wanted to buy him
players. That' s what happened. Years after paying forty million dollars,
forty- five what they paid,he said that this was impossible and Guadalajara
quarry did not give him to supplya team like Chivas or take out the
ticket. Then he needed thirty-six million Mexicans to have his quarry outside

(42:44):
the United States through the east team. Then my first mission was everyone who
didn' t speak Spanish. Ithappened seriously and Chivas, at that time
he lent many players and lent tomany teams because he was players to the
cube, to the east, tothe actor. I lent all his players
to you and with those players youplay more all the Mexicans, Mexican Americans

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that you can do you recruit Arkaa fabulous plan, very good, in
a franchise that was worth a hundredmillion dollars. It came how much a
franchise is worth these days. Notthat he gets in and I tell you
publicly, he gets in and hegets in and he gets in Kloss Dennisja.
Then there was no business for him. Honestly, there was no business
for him, because the business theremade the players franchises and being connected to

(43:30):
the people of New York and thatis, things they do between them.
And it cuts off all communication withDon Jorge Vergara. And also when Jorge
Vergara realizes that the teams had abudget, the famous budget And then in
the budget you had to put inthe bucket, but the cube won five
hundred thousand and to complete the yourBojet so that it didn' t happen,

(43:53):
because it had to win in theUnited States sixty thousand dollars and the
rest pay it in Mexico. Andthen he realized that he was going to
leave this team and he was goingto exceed the Bodjet budget authorized by the
IMLS. Then already the players whopromised me, who were the first team,
because they ended up being second divisionanymore was no longer that. And

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the players who more or less becauseto date four I was leading Wey and
the players who were highlighting me THEINGERKtook care of holding them and selling them
to me. On the other hand, because according to him it was a
big deal. I mean, he' d take it out of me,
send it to Scotland, and afterthree months New England would appear in Rebot

(44:37):
' s, I' d say," Oh, I don' t
suck led school" I know whatyou' re doing and you' re
hurting the owner you' re payingus. I went there and you didn
' t talk to Jorge Verdara again. I' ve already cut off all
communication. All communication cut me offand then Chivas' experience ended. Or

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I was my sports director, itwas Marcelo. I was Marcelo' s
great friend. Marcelo or year-old ah that was my great friend from
Tecos Aha. When I arrived inTecosas, of course the first day he
arrived at the airport and a geckoa heliche list yes, what happened,
I didn' t come for youI thought I was working for the organization

(45:19):
no and suddenly, at naso Burbalhe takes me to the stadium and they
were all waiting for me and thenI find out not that he was the
nephew of the owner and my greatquatequiatos muys cuásitos. He ran a team
of legionaries. I remember and Iwas going all his games and when one
went, he would talk to meon the phone. In the half-
time chelse what do I do.I' m losing three ounces, what
do I do? Tell them aboutthe cemetery that if they were in a

(45:45):
grave, they couldn' t playanymore. Then let them imagine that they
are in a cemetery, that whatthey prefer to be on the deck or
playing. I was already talking tohim and in the end we won four
or three chalis. It was soyou' d lost six one and I
' m not talking anymore. Hewas either granulating and winning or I was
a father, but he was agood team, that one of the legionnaires.
I remember because my son once playedagainst that team in a tournament.

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If he was a good team,if he was a good team and how
he wasn' t foolish. Hewas a good team and participated in tournaments.
And Marcelo a hot football, yes, a hot one, a hot
one. I never imagined these things. Then somehow it connects with Roses.
Rosas was Mr Rodolfo Rosas, whowas Mérida' s largest shareholder. He
did jobs and sent him jobs andhired him to Mérida And when you were

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there, no and when the littlegirl arrives, because the team lost,
lost, lost. And I listenedto their talks and told Marcelo, everything
they say to you in the meetings, you say yes to the party or
is what you want, no,but don' t jump them, because
the predisposes because they' re goingto tell you wrong I told you you

(46:51):
say yes to go after, afterthe game, you' ll make up
any story that they didn' tlive it. You lived it then there
were frictions, afflictions. Aion,run it to me and put it on
me and take it off. Itdoesn' t take away my speech.
He' s talking. He's getting married See, I met him,
Marcelo' s boyfriend. Is shegetting married? La? La?

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La? La? La? La? And I was already in my job.
I took care of taking care ofburying the friendship. Why. Because
he ate him he took a lot, he brought Croift and hid it from
me for about a month. Andif I remember if I went to Barcelona
a lot, I went with DonJorge and I talked to Marcelo, where
you were Marcelo, why you didn' t answer me you were hired and

(47:37):
a month later he confessed this tome. I was with this one I
could count on him. He wasa couple of Georges to hire Crol.
He had a lot of friendship andthen that friendship ate an ear, because
he convinced himself only when I methim, he just subopere He' s
a builder, very good, verygood. He walked and in the best

(47:57):
area is a selling building and thedad told him to give me a month
and I took care of selling thebuilding, the apartment, and sold it
the forum seriously. Yeah, no, no, no, no, really,
the best convincer, that' sesopo noma was missing the flanta,
that' s all. He wasmissing a great convincer. Yeah, when

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the other experience in America comes,it' s Vegas and Vegas, because
it' s a special place.It' s not a complicated place.
How you lived it. There isa young populace who works in Zoom and
who the owner took with this gentlemanwho worked at the IMSS, a Mr

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Rico from Kansas and wanted a USLfranchise in Las Vegas, which is like
the second division. Truth is asecond division. It has no promotion or
descent, but, at the endof the day, it is a division
that has thirty- two or twenty- nine teams. Cannon has proliferated.
Yes, yes, yes, andin many places where there was no football
to San Antonio there is a team. Yes, of course, and it
goes in the first place, Ithink, St Antonio, Right now,

(49:05):
outing, St Antonio. The caseis that someone media and this güeyes thinks
about me, Think about me thengo and go and see And then yes,
no, yes, no, Ididn' t know how to say
no sick. To my sick ladyI tell her to come to me this
you sit on the couch in arobe I already ran out. What were

(49:28):
you doing at the time. Nothing, but the time, that is,
I' m saying what a hellof a time. I' ve got
to get to the beams, well, you' ve already been to the
Angels, yeah, well, ina house called there, I' m
a bastard. That' s whereI feel her and it' s over
I' ve already told her andshe saw her and my father to ask
her how she traveled to the performance. This was worse my wife than I

(49:49):
was the one with the idea,but she executed it perfectly. At the
end of the day, I getmore Lana and I said you know she
' s already sick. Let's go and get sick and it came
on January two. There were noballs, there were no players, there
was no training ground, there wasnothing, there was nothing. And on
the 26th, the first preparation matchagainst Vancouver, and there was nothing.

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And then I start with test campsat the OGA. Everywhere in the United
States, they' re full ofleagues, amateur leagues, and I'
m starting to be field. Eighthundred young men came to me, eight
hundred young men. You took someone, they gave me a look. I
got eight visas. Every step isworth$ 9, 000 and my entire

(50:35):
technical body I took everyone short toIsidro. They gave him two visas,
two visas and none for the technicalbody and how the owner had already learned.
Of course not. I took thebest of the internet and television in
one horita play place to the nexttogether. This is what is called the
central defense of crus solution hands.I didn' t take Lugo, I

(50:58):
took Ma de Barcelo to the tower. Doing it to the tower so I
didn' t just see it oritaauxiliary from wiki to wiki by wi.
I didn' t take eight.No. No. No. No.
I took them and they were thinkingabout this America thing and the quietness and
football they played with square ball passedover us in a way go. They

(51:22):
made us ointment, the teams said, and I totally didn' t know
the League. Not if I getto know the League as I know it
now, but impossible to take aMexican because in my heron it is not
yet adapted to those salaries nor tothe speeds that are played there is too
physical. WSL is even more physical. That' s where the Africans dominate

(51:43):
the cannons. I took it thetruth, very good experience. I set
it up by the team. Wecompeted, we competed, but I didn
' t go to live anywhere.I' m going to live. As
for the colony, I was disappointedwith these first time I left and left
a team in the dressing room bringingthem all together. I' m laughing,

(52:08):
but I' m laughing at thehard river. To them I tell
them I hope there was already.The Cheli told me you let me say
goodbye to them and since I didn' t meet them I hope I never
see them again in my life.Please, I don' t want to
see you again. Then I'm still looking at it. One takes
I remember Thomas Monchado, son.I' m out of the dressing room.

(52:30):
I' m leaving and I'm going to my car Thoms mds
Chelis is leaving for eight hours.Thanks to the boy Thomas, enough to
tell you if I want to seeyou again. Yeah, I' m
back, and then right now,last year, he' s talking,
the owner' s talking to myhouse. I start talking to him and

(52:50):
I say no, but head-on I' ll talk to him at
la la and you know what withyou. I don' t want to
talk, I want to talk toyour son. I mean, you got
the wrong phone, so that's the way it is, because there
' s here, and if Ilive in his house, I don'
t live with me, and Iend up hiring him, and now he

(53:10):
' s working there in the otherBajas. I wanted to go because I
tell you that the future of footballfor all these who vandalize the indiet and
I go to their recordings and earnthe diplomas and my speech is young congratulations.
Who speaks English and there are threeor four raise my hand. I
' m telling you no more sendher here. Leave an academy to learn

(53:31):
English and with the title of technicianmore learning English. And the future is
in America. There' s alot, it' s exploding cannon.
There' s no shaman here andthey' re going to lead the first
division. Forget about leading first division. And if they get into basic forces,
they' re going to pay themmore, they' re going to
have another chamba. And in theUnited States, anywhere, in a park

(53:52):
with a little school, you're going to do more than here,
but you do have to learn Englishthat right now you mention this there in
San Antonio, I found myself andI really liked the truth to Javier Saavedra
lateral. Javier set up his socceracademy, because it' s not full

(54:16):
all dads, so man. Formany years it has been sport in elementary
school, in women and one menwho are more accurately practiced. And then
that' s what I get.The bread. It' s there,
get in there, there it is, forget about the MLS. Forget about
being technical. There' s thePAN and then all teams the MLS.

(54:40):
He had a lot of that hissecond team played at the USL, but
they said, that' s MLS, that we' re making him the
broth of these güeys. Then theymade a second one like a sub twenty
- three of the same MLS.It' s called MLS his twenty-
three, so article, and thenthey took the teams out of the us

(55:00):
and made that category, more teams, more stadiums, more preparers, more
coaches, more everything and the usof all places occupied them. But around
the corner I was twenty- onedays ago, I was in Vancouver visiting
me and neighboring an Iranian, Iranianor Iranian or Hindu. There you know

(55:24):
you don' t Iranian billionaire.What I was going to buy. He
wanted to practice with me by chance. I met my daughter and whatever you
tell me and you send me becauseI was going to buy a team in
the League of Canada, in theLeague of Canada and eight teams and they
took out eight offers for new teams. Then I wanted to buy in my
victory and wanted to know if Iwas interested, because he wanted to produce

(55:49):
players for Europe. That was histhrow. In two days they sold all
eight franchis seriously. There' san explosion in the United States, in
Canada, not really Cannon Soccer Canyonis awesome. Impressive now that you'
re on this topic from the UnitedStates, Canada, the MX Chiles League,

(56:14):
there' s no reverse and it' s going to be overtaken by
football. Well, the MLS alsocovers Canada. I wasn' t.
There' s Toronto and Montreal,et cetera, et cetera. There'
s no turning back from being overtaken. She' s already outnumbered us.
I say that when it comes tosports, don' t take this last

(56:36):
tournament into account, which was bloodyfor the footballer and the Mexican clubs.
It was an obligation, one thingthey had to go for this World Cup
thing and things you know more thanI do about how they' re handled.
Sports. I still don' tthink so. The rest of it,
nothing. We beat them at thePGA, in the game, in

(56:57):
the post game. It takes yearsin preparation, in the structures and in
the main that Mr Rodriguez that isone of his tasks so far by obligation
is doing it how he unites eighteenpartners that are not eighteen, are fourteen
no, how they unite there allare united, you are Nosville, Nasville

(57:21):
and you are wrong to see howthe other twenty- eight help you to
be well, because you cannot beour partner. We don' t want
you to be wrong. We needyour little tiendita to sell just like we
do, and we all help eachother. It is a huge society what
they have in the League and thenthe selection that goes beyond the League,

(57:43):
because you make of all this thatIgidro are doing led a team a seventh
division in Spain, professional sponsored bythe Mlsi all the teams send players to
that team and they have a franchisein Madrid and they play in the seventh
division and s or many teams inEurope, because Spain today is like the

(58:05):
Wall Street of Madrid. If youwant to buy a Uruguayan player, you
don' t have to go toUruguay, you have to go to Madrid.
You do everything in Madrid. Thecase is that everyone gets there.
This one takes him to Russia,takes him to Ukraine, not because my
name came out, but he takeshim to Turkey, takes him to Greece,

(58:25):
takes him away, takes him away. They send more players and then
you see in all the American teams, in all the teams and the team
pays for it the MLS and thenthose players take a value, they take
a knowledge that doesn' t acquireit in the United States. In reality,
of course, development is faster.Yeah, no, everybody' s
gonna get this one. No,but they see how many players there are.

(58:50):
They see the amount and, forexample, the problem the shot of
Jorge see Mr Jorge Vergara was PEPII think and we see it in the
PSC of PCB substitute. Then wecame to a team of such and such
that pepe had to have passed throughChivas by force, it had to have
passed through Chivas, figs not files. The locks came off and now too

(59:13):
or on the other hand. Itlooks the other way because they have equipment
on the other side. Yeah,look what you said about being partners right
now? How I ever remember.A long time ago he gave us a
very informal talk, but a talkby the gentleman who created the Premier because
you see that before it was theEnglish League, no, and then it

(59:36):
became the Premier League and the PremierLeague. What was the basis of all
the structure that had to be partners. The same thing you just said about
the deliveries, the money is wehave part of the transmissions. Why,
why the Luton, why the LuttonThere was already Viets the lotus t,
how you walk through the cottages,well, it' s in there and

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thirty and true by a room.No. Why they give them a hundred
million pounds for transmissions. If it' s Geez, he said that clearly.
Karma is a team because it suitsthe league and then and he earns
you a hundred and you have amineral, because he' s already going
to win you a thousand or fivehundred eight hundred. But this one'

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s gonna be strong for you.And it' s not like that here.
Güey, here' s everyone's interests, what room for their
own, their interests, their interests. So those of the North, who
do it great, very good,but don' t do it for new
Leon, don' t do itfor Mexican football. They make it for
Lion Wolf. And there' ssome solution. Squealing, no, no,
because we' re, we're very bad partners. We all

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don' t like being partners.And then I don' t see.
I see that from here to theWorld Cup and by orders of the one
who commands, put with Mr Rodriguez, if you are going to follow everyone
goes there, because at the endof the day, there will be dividends,
because the World Cup comes. Thenhold on. Hold on again,
but it would be fabulous almost thatway. I had all the owners.

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What great entrepreneurs they are, ofcourse, they are great, they are
disillusioned. Why don' t yousit in a football chair. They don
' t talk in their mouths,they talk in their stomachs, why calamba.
What has this thing that poisons youlike this? He said yes,
it' s something very special,no doubt, but yes. A meeting,
a meeting of Mr Ah, MrCardo Salinas, makes a meeting with

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twenty- eight journalists. He invitesthem to eat to tell him their plans.
And la la la? La?La? La? La? And
an X. He asks you avery good question. He asks you to
hear you manage football as your companiesand he says, of course, that
no longer. Thank you He toldyou everything. Yeah. Yes, yes,
of course, yes, of course, and remember that meeting of Mr

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San Poco yes, just a littlewhile ago, of course, yes,
yes, yes, yes? Iremember her, I remember her very well
And, unfortunately, unfortunately, Isay evidently, Mexican football will remain and
will continue with its level, etcetera, etcetera. But what I don'
t like is that we suddenly livethose bitternesss that America beats us, that

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we can' t beat it.I understand that this tournament was half improvised
and anything from the record but thatwe didn' t even make it to
the finals with some team. That' s what I don' t like.
The ones taken to the dance andI really have nothing against Mr Arriola.
I have nothing, my lord,I have nothing. He must already

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be a great politician to be inthat position, you need to know about
football and you need to have theleadership to be able to unify criteria.
You need to put the punch onthe table so this isn' t done.
And this is done and there issomething happening every day that doesn'
t go either in the protocols,or in the order, or in the
organization, or in the benefit,or anything from anyone. Bastard I mean,

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you talk to him like that.I' ll solve it for you
and they' ll talk to youabout it together. Yeah, I'
ll smell it. But what they' re telling you he' s going
against a dice and you can't say a green one. We were
already talking at the board and wewere young like that. Yeah. No,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No. No, no? Don' t you? Don' t you?
Don' t you? Don't you? What did we bring
down? We' ve already droppeda foreigner. They' re already playing

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seven, and we' re upto four minutes into the cash game.
You know you take them off becausein the face of love and boring games.
I don' t know if yousaw more people atlan yesterday Yes,
yes, yes, it says itcan' t be this level of the
first division. Son, no,and good what we won the manuelup celebration
for the people of Mazatlan and sincewe will do no. But what a

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game. Yeah, there' ssome games you say can' t be
yes. And someone will also tellyou that when you wander the program this
Girona against Granada, Celta de Vigo, Granada also in a goal yes,
cab but more you turn and tothe grandstand as fogel you do not see
the match you turn and start tothe grandstand and you enjoy how people are

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already and there is something to havefun in. Yes, yes, Chelise,
what a pleasure for ter what orseriously, what a real pleasure before
you leave, please, a signature. Ah. No, no, no,
no, no, no, youmight not need the real glasses.
Thank you very much, Chelis.What a pleasure to talk to you and

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sincerely, because you' ve madea path. You haven' t asked
me if I can go on ornot. No. You told me yes,
yes, I want to go onand you said you want to.
You said you' ve run howmany games, three hundred sixty- six,
and you said it' s notbecause you' re going to lead
more. Yeah, sure, butI' m not having an agent.

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I' ll stay the same.So the one that grabs me, that
grabs me with mu Elchelice, notgood, but surely still The time will
come for Chelis to have a chance, but really that pleasure to have you
listen to all your concepts, sincerelyvery but very enriching part of order your

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glass for your hot cold drinks.Very much, thank you very much,
look, it' s with handgift. I really appreciate it. Send
me a hug to see your Murrieta. I have you so much the same
I truly admire you, because ifit' s cannon, knowing is reinventing
and that you have to learn alot. Thank you, thank you,
Chelis, thank you for joining us. You know, give her the bell,

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