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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They're gonna take the background out.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Who does look weird? Done it? I look like I'm
one of those newspeople in Iraq who's had to blur
out in the background. It's so grim.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It looks like you're sat in a sunny climate. It
looks sunny.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's just a terrible lighting in this Victorian terrace I'm living.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It looks terrible.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This is Apple. This is Apple webcamsphere one set, one set.
Let me turn a light on so you can see
my pretty face.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I know I like your background because you get little
toys in the background. Then you get a little dinosaur.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You're just jealous.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Of course, I'm jealous because as soon as you get
any sort of woman in there, they're going to be
wiped from that shelf. You're essentially a kid bedroom and
a bet your living room in it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
When you're as good looking as I am, that don't happen.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I left that salad on purpose, then.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well serious, you know very well. I've been married before
and I was very much under the film.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
This is this is perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Why what's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'll just message do me and I've had a bit
of an argument. But did you did you argue much
with Susie only in the end. That's sad.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Sad. Yeah, why don't you don't normally I'm surprised you
don't normally row what's going on? Well?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
He he keeps going back to these.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I believe you're doing that fucking podcast again.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, it's basically, spend some time with me.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It goes back to tea time once you's feeding you
and you lost it.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Basically, she's fed up with me pimpin her teas.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh my god, get off. You were genuinely pissed off.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like I don't like saying like it's time at months,
I don't like saying one of the worst things you
can say, but it did cross my mind anyway. So
basically she'll make like pork potatoes and veg okay boiled
veg potatoes.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And then you pour tomato sauce all over it.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Call it a good No, I literally do a really
good pimpy job. Pinp my ride who used to host
that wrapper and used to bring a bangerboll car in
nice car. Not wrong with the car, not wrong with
the meal, but then they take it to the next level.
So what I've done is and this was a stroll
brook of the camel's back. I've come in, I've chopped
up the pow.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
This is so pathetic. Fried it in the frying pan
after she'd cooked it. You put it back in a pan,
all right? That is bad? What a knob.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I fried it with oregano olive oil to make like
a giros. And then I've got a wrap out and
amid a giros wrap. So kids look at me. They've
had boiled vegge bobbed dry pop chop.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Is it not giros? Whatever? I'm asking you because I
ordered I went to a Greek Actually, I went to
a Greek place in Leeds last night and I ordered it,
and I thought, I've got a Greek mate, giros please,
And now you're telling me it might be wrong.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That's your it's actually Yerush, Yerush, from the back of
the foot, Yerush.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I'm not good.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You go to a Halifax and the girl, can I
get a gyros? For God's sake, It's not gyros.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Job centers aren't corner is joke for you anyway? So
I pimped it into a Urus and the boys looking
at me. What you eat?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And I'm just having tea. I just changed it him.
That's it. You're cooking tea all next week?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh was it an actual like she was upset big?
I mean rightfully, rightfully, so that is a week don't.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Really we don't really argue. We have skirmishes now and again,
like to.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Call skirmishes the what's it called that? The land? What
are they called the army? That's not really the army
it is. That's a skirmish, A bit of a skirmish.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
My mum and dad call him skirmishes. It's not really
an argument. You're not calling it your knobs or all that.
You just have a bit of a skirmish. I remember
that our first ever argument was over a dishcloth. And
I'm one for hanging a dishcloth over the tap to
let it drip, drip dry, and Abby hates that like
it's like the worst nightmare. So she'd come in, what
the hell's that that dish cloth coming there? Whips off
(04:37):
the tap and first and I'm like, oh my god.
But then but then I go with it. Weekend golfing.
Don't give it a toss.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
When you get back to she row, does she remember.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No, no, what for the dishcloth.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It reminds me of that Frank Skinner had a joke
where he's talking about rowing, how him and his girlfriend
used have vicious rows, and one time they were having
a big row because a lot of milk had been
spilt in the back of the car. Anyway, they're having
a huge row. They were going to a friend's party
that night, so they're having this big row, the blazing
(05:10):
at him, and she's saying, you too, you did this,
you did that, And they're you know, twoing and throwing,
and then the door opens to the party and it's all, hello, Hi,
how's it going. And they're having a really nice time
at the party. They're sitting next to each other, so
in love, looking at each other and all of that,
and in his head he's thinking, I think I've got
away with this. I think the row is over. And
(05:30):
I remember this. They were leaving and as soon as
the door for the party slammed herund I don't know
the fucking you. It's weird, one of the best. I
think it's one of the best stand up jokes I've
ever heard.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's so good, you know why, because it's true. In it,
it's true true. Some women will not argue in public.
They'll put a brave face in it. As soon as
you get behind the closed doors, you absolutely no. Well,
I think we don't argue that much. And I think
if we did have an argument something like that, which
is just walking and go it's spilt milky or whatever
is being like, this has been like and we get
it out of the open because it just be awkward.
(06:03):
I think, I think, yeah. But so she said, you've
got to make tea all week. She's right, that's it.
Now you're making teas. So that's fine. I'll do teas.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I will.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I thought, I'm just gonna absolutely nail them because if
she makes if she makes past it, I'll put criss
and cheese in it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
She said, you can't just accept my tea as it is.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It is like you're saying it's not good enough.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Nobody is good enough. And I do appreciate it. And
I just like cooking clear, I like tinker. So do
you know my meals have been this week?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What Chinese takeaway to Spotler, to take away, crisp sandwiches.
They've been loving it. Chinese pasta and chips and beans,
that's an air fry special, homemade burgers, spag bowl, and
then went on holiday. I thought you looked like you're
putting a bit of weight on. So I have like
(06:53):
the lads are like, oh my god, can you cook
every week? And I've just gone, yeah, of course Chinese.
I've been eating it.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, she's been loving it. But she does cook healthier
and the thing is abbot And this is no disrespect.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
She's a good home cook. Okay, do you know what
I'm saying? Home cook lasagne? You know, but I'm very
very worried about I'll make the crisper chili beef, I'll
make chicken parmels, I'll spice it up a bit. I
just love my spice. You'll make the home takeaways. It's like.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
She did in Mexican once and she put it slow
cooker and she left and I was like, it's not
gonna have enough spice rout in there. So I just
ladened it with like chili flakes and I didn't say
and they're in it. And Nicol's littlead were popping off, Mom,
you made this spice it. And she knew that pimped
it and she wasn't happy with that either.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So yeah, I mean, I don't think you've come across
very well there. But that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You know tonight did She'll hear this on the podcast
because she listens, but it'll be in a week's time.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I think that Abby is a wonderful host. She's one
of the best hosts. I can't believe that you. I
mean to be fair. You did do all the cooking
that I saw at Greek Easter. Thank you cooking. I
did a couple of flatbreads. You might You might remember
from last week's podcast that I declared my well, what
(08:16):
I thought was a potential romance. Turns out I was
as deluded as we thought we were being pied. She
did put so we put the funny click went out
in it on social media, and she did do a
little comment underneath it. So then I thought it might
be an ear doors open she's commented. Sent her a
(08:36):
little message saying, I'm really sorry. I know it's really embarrassing.
Is she's not busy. There's a bit of comedic effect.
Blah blah blah. I've been left on red unread. No,
I've been left on red. That's worse. She's ready or anyway,
it was just a bit of band It wasn't real. Obviously,
I'm an old man. Anyway, I'm in love with my
dentist now, because she said, we all listened to you
(08:59):
on parenting Hell, I said, what what I said? I
want on? It was either went oh no? But he
told that story about indn't you? And I recognized the
picture they posted about you on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
What is your dentist like?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah? Single? I don't know. I don't know what what's
the boundary? Can I follow my dentist on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You don't listen to this podcast?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So does she? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Maybe now she won't do does she do.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
In VISI line?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I want you to go out with her so you
can get competite bonding or you can get your visiline
and I get competent. Yeah, please sleep with her.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Tom, That is disgusting, Come on mate, grown. So what
else has been going on in your week?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Tom went to Haven? He's been to Haven, Domen. Have
you been to Cleethorps.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I've never been to clean Thorps. I've been to Haven.
I think Scarborough is that Haven? Ye? All of it cost?
I definitely. I stayed in a static caravan in Scarborough
once and it had an entertainment center that was absolutely
it was like I'd walk it up in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
This is essentially however, they come slightly into the twenty
first century because they have burger kings on these places
now KFC's, and they deliver it to your static caravan,
so you gain to get even more fatter.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So what will you do spending Coronation weekend in a caravan? Yeah?
We went to Cleethorpe, British with some friends and it
would just I don't know how to say this without
offending anybody, but it's the right level of you have
roughness for me, do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:31):
Like I could walk up to that whole, you know,
on the night with the turns on they would turn on.
I could walk in there with like piss stained joggers,
a string vest, some flip flops, socks on, and you know,
looking like an absolutely you know, like hanging out my
ass and no one bats an island. And you're saying
that's the level you want to be at.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yes now, And again it's brilliant because you don't have
to feel like you're making an effort. You can literally
just wear the same thing for four days nobody's bothered
and you sit there watching a turn.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I do get a kick out of walk into shopping.
My headed ass track is yeah, comfort.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Everyone's got the same idea. So these these people in
socks and sliders are a big thing. And there's like
women literally in pajamas watching Megan training impersonator on stage,
loving life and yeah now and again it's quite it
really level is a leveler and it brings you back
to that worth. Like we claim we're working class lads,
(11:28):
we're not.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We're not. We're really we're not. I think we say
it when we It depends what environment we're we're like
like Scarlet Pimpernel. Depends on the environment. It can be whatever.
We can be whatever people blend in. So when you
go to a haze and we can't do that, can
we wait?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Were it's too too much? When the clear thoughts all
blending right in my cord?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
This is brilliant. I can just I can tell my
kids to get you can shout the scream, you can
just on full Bradford, full Bradford.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
However, if the other way around, and like you say,
we were full of load of toss really posh people,
and on about high level. And you if I turned
up in jogs and T shirt, They're gonna be like,
oh my god, what's he wearing?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Do you know what I'm saying? You felt like you
were just in a perfectly relaxed, non judgmental environment. You're judgmental,
so you know what people will be judging you on
in different environments.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm aware of being very self aware me too. There
were a couple.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
There were a couple walking to Cleethorpe's Beach and we'll
get onto the Clearthorks beach in a minute. It's the
weirdest thing with She had a later bottle of Budweiser
and it was nine am, nine thirty a bit. She
had the two kids that they both were hammered. The
parents two young kids are like wearing social services. He
kicked a dog dolong by. A dog ran towards them
(12:43):
like it were gonna just friendly dog, and it bootied.
It booted the dog and they only were like hey,
And he took one look at the guy with the
board and they were like, I'm not gonna stifight with you.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well you hate you hate dogs, don't you. I bet
you went up and gave it another kids.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Give a night five and at the beach at Cleithop's
there's no sea. What this is just it's just like
a park but on the course it's weird.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's Cleps not a coastal town.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It is, but it's an estuary. It's a massive estuary.
So your chance of getting there and actually being able
to bathe in the sea, it's like you got I
think you've got a twenty minute windows. It goes in, comes,
goes in and out so fast, so we got them like,
where's the frigging sea.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It's just what. I'm gonna be honest with you. Working
tourist board for Cleathorpes are listening, this is not good.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
But no, but there's the banned theme park which we love,
abandoned places which are really good. And there was a
little train line which took you into Clethorps and the
world's smallest pub, love the Fish and Chips. The clear
Tops itself was actually quite nice. But it's just not
a it's not a beachy gone swim. It's weird. You
need to go.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You just ticked heady. I'm gonna be honest with you, mate. No.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Lloyd's from Cleveorpes, isn't it. Yeah, which against Lloyd Griffith,
your future guests. You know, Greensy Town is in Cleethorpe's
like it's not really steady the stadium. Yeah it's right
on course. But yeah, maybe he won he won't listen
to this, will they never mind? Apologies for anyone listening from.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Clean colleges to anyone from Cleethorpes.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I had a great holiday, really really good, switched off
and then yeah, I just got I got a bit sad.
I got a bit sad on Monday night. Why a
little bit, I don't know, had a bit of the moment.
It's like the middle of the night about the kids
what so so Theo's I actually feel a bit emotionally
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weird enough talking about Theo's like eleven now, isn't he?
And you might be autimpathized with this. And we went
with a load of younguns like your load of all
the were kids and the oldest were like six, five
or six, and then it's theoonico eleven and eight, and
it was just really sad, like he couldn't he didn't
find a place to fit, do you know what I'm saying?
So all the kids were off playing doing whatever, like
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playing I don't know, just kid games, and he would
join him now and again, but he felt everything. He
felt a bit embarrassed, and then he keep coming back
towards and he'd sit with O's and have a drink
and I chat with him about stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It's just it's just an awkward age because he's really
intelligent and theore is I mean, I'm not a therapist.
I'm talking like I'm an expert, but I feel like
I was a bit like THEO. Maybe that's why I
can empathize with him a bit. But it still wants
to be able to play. But when he does, he
just doesn't have that same imagination that he might have
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had about a few years ago. But he's really emotionally intelligent,
and he's really aware, he's really clever. His interests have
always been those of I don't know, a seventy five
year old man exactly. It's just the awkward age of
growing up. He's going into high school next year.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I don't yeah, this is this is all. This all
comes into one big issue for me. So by the
way they want, they were happy playing with him, and
you could tell now and again he'd just come away
a bit playing in his school. He's really good with
the kids, so he's an ecot and I think it's
more of a me issue. Like some Like Monday night
we got back, I could not sleep at all, like
I were like, well, thinking about this, thinking about this
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and THEO. I cannot I cannot accept THEO going to
high school. I cannot get over it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I can't. Can't.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Really struggling, like to a point where I were like,
I was nearly crying at three in the morning.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I felt so emotional about it because it was like
I felt like I've lost him a bit.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Does that makes sense? Perfect sense? But me and Teddy
have been watching a lot of old family videos where
Teddy's little, and I feel like it's a different boy.
In my head, I'm thinking, oh, I miss him, I
miss him so much, and he's sitting next to me. Yeah,
but it's older, and it's not horrible, and it's not
that you know, Teddy and I am probably much closer
now than we were then. But it's just when they're
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so little, it's hard them growing up is something your
parents don't warn you about when you have kids. They
never tell you how hard it is.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And I don't think people talk about it, like my
friend's got kids to go to high school and I
was going to high school. They don't say, oh my god,
I didn't sleep a week and crime crime house every night.
Maybe some mums do, but I don't think dad's dad's like,
oh he's good too.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Well. I feel a bit weird. I always thought I
was weird. I was so emotionally attached to him and
I was finding it so difficult that it's growing up.
But I have heard on other podcasts people talking about it,
saying how difficult it is when when they when they
grow up, because also they become their own person. They
don't just want to be although this hasn't happened to
Teddy yet. I mean Teddy does just want to be me,
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but small, Yeah, they do just start turning into their
own people. They get their own interests. I hate it.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Do you remember like when they were younger, dom and
like but went melt in the mouth and everything was
so innocent and it's going to get a phone in
summer and like if that's I'm not going to hand
it over going goodbye? You know, am I going to
see you again? You know, like you're gonna be engrossing
his phone. Now he's not in social media, but it's
going to a phone. It needs a phone, so like
that's another big step for me, and I almost like
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we don't want to be a part of it. I'm like,
I give him the phone you teamed high school. I'm
gonna pretend he's still little theater. But I'm holding him
back out. I'm holding him back.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
He's going to look at me and it's going to
resent me for not like moving on within. But I
mean that's true. I do think you're holding him back
with the phone thing. I don't think it'll be along
into high school before he's got social media of some sort.
I mean, I was listening to Eddie Hern being interviewed
and he even he'd had to cave in eventually to
his daughters once they were in high school and let
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him have social media. But it's it's tough because pear
pressure comes in in high school. So then they want
they want stuff that other kids have high school. I
think is the worst idea of that. I feel lucky
that I had prime, middle and high.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Go back to middle school. I say, do it, because now.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You're innocent and THEO is a very innocent, naive boy.
The first day of high school is going to see snogging, smoking, drugs,
people fighting. Yes, it's too whereas middle school at least
was a gentle introduction. It's like wanting to try drugs
and going straight into heroin. Do you know what I mean?
A little dabbled bit weed, No, just shoving in me.
(19:01):
It's like it's one extreme to the I want to
try and bite ride Todd France. I think Toddy fan
is a good one that said. Mate. When I was
in middle school, I do remember like I was either
been in year five probably yeah, year five or six,
and I remember year eight girls trying to snog me.
(19:22):
It is backseat of the bus. It was that. It
was the bus from from Shipley to school in Bailed.
So you were a year younger than what there is now.
You were ten. Yeah, they were in year eight and
they were I didn't know it at the time, but
they were obviously promiscuous girls. And I can remember they
were snogging at the back of the bus like boys
(19:43):
in their year. And we had there was a friend
of mine who knew them, and he was talking to
him and then they snogged in and then they were like,
do you want to snog? Then? Do you want to kiss?
You want to learn? How did you do you want
to learn? Cried yeah, a little cry, and I went
to the front of the bus.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I cried it whips the middle. Someone asked for me
for a kiss. No, No, One of the lads went,
you need to kiss her. You need to kiss Stephanie.
What do you call neighbors? You need to kis Stephanie?
I went, does she want me to kiss her? No,
you just need to she does, but you need to
so I just cried it right off.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah. Mat the school bus, the school bus is like
a hotbed of like it's pressure. It's like school, the
pressures of school, but you're condensed into a tin can
and you're forced to mix with the older kids. I
can remember once on the way to school, getting really
badly travel sick and thinking, oh my god, I'm going
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to be sick. And I just was sick. But I
put my hand over mild and just let it dribble
onto the floor because I was in I thought, if
I'm sick and they see it, yeah, can you imagine
Another time I was on the bus and I had
not made the popularity stakes yet, had not made it
to the back of the bus just yet, and I
was just minding my in my own thoughts. You know,
there's no phone to look at her anything like that
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was just the way with the fair and I was,
I was. I was whistling the themes at Dad's army
and someone heard me. An older boy heard me and
ripped me. Beat you up, yang. And I can remember
seeing lads doing what I now know is the wanker
sign out of the window and being like, what's that
what they do? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
When when did you discover? I reckon I relate to
this sign.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
There's school, there's the wanker sign, there's they were doing.
What's he doing? Yeah, there's the do you spit a?
Do you spit all? Swallow? There's that, there's there's there's
there's those weird things. Yeah, I was massively.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Now am I going to have to sit down with
you on prepping?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Right there? That's wanka, that is dickhead. Yeah, that's I
think I think that that's that might be what you've
got to do. No bed dickhead one. You're going to
see a lot of things. Shall we do it? We
should do like a little class with the kids, right, kids,
We've dont a few things to teach you, but they've
got to find these things out by themselves. Kids are
incredibly resilient.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You got to remember that there were the tan PACs
on one of this film Watching with kids and it's
Seeing Red.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Have you seen the film Seeing Red? No, you've got
to watch this film.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
But it's a girl who turns into a red panda.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
O ah, right, I thought it was a film about periods.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It is what so it's an animation by Disney, and
the underlying tone is when she turns into a red pandurit,
it's means she's on a period. So she's really moody
and angry with all her friends.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well that's actually quite that's quite a good idea. I
remember girls being really self conscious and scared about that
at school.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Oh yeah, I think I think it's a brilliant idea.
Like so like in a way of like translating it
to kids who understand it. But then Nico is watching it,
do not understand why she's an angry red panda. There's
no backstory to it for Nico. They put this like
Chinese spinning it like she's a mythical summer of adn't no,
and the mum waves the tan PACs up outside the
(22:53):
school window. She gets really embarrassed and Nico's laughing and
she must be wearing her pants.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, that's sweet, that's just the innocence of you.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
He could to fall back on.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Think about films when you were a kid, that all
the references that you didn't get, Yeah, over your head
and you just don't say out here. You think I'm
just going to not say out there, or it just
don't even clock, Like The Simpsons is full of adult
jokes that don't even then even clocked me when I
was like an early teenager.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
On the gets most of them because he's goes to
schooling like it end of day, bluddy ill. I think
three of them got kids in his class. And but
like you know, that's no matter how much he's going
to he's going to be a massive few months for me.
He's doing stats this week. He's just he's not bothered
about Its.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Fine, can't you can't project it onto your kid though.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
There was just go to bed crying at night every night.
It's good with horrib fine.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Imagine imagine going through that and having just had a divorce. Yeah, well,
I was.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I was weirdly going to say that because Teddy, That's
what I was gonna because I was telling now thirteen
thirty two years different.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So he was eleven? Was he eleven? When? No? Before
that twenty eighteen, so he'll been now plumbing egche So yeah,
you're you're you had a lot going on, didn't you
a lot going on?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
And then he went to it. But it was, like
I said, they're really resilient. He did he did better
than me. I was a bloody mess. He did way
better than me. Yeah, well, how do you feel about
this next transition of his life? Then? Like the next
you know is a teenager. But the thing is things
are starting to get difficult. Yeah. Well it's obviously the
you know, he's very body conscious now because he's he
(24:38):
put on a he's put on a bit of way
over the last few years, and it's been pointed out
as we've mentioned in the previous podcast, and social circles
start to become a massive thing. Oh god as well.
And Teddy's going through that at the minute. And he's
not at the school with his closest friends. So I've
taken him, I've taken him out of the bad the
toxic environment of football done. Yeah, irrelevant if it's not
(25:03):
if the if you're not surrounded by good I say
good people. I mean it's it's just in certain individuals
that have made it uncomfortable for him. So take him
out of that environment, don't move to the other environment
feels better about himself. So I'm trying to do that
with school now. But the school moving processes are right
stressful thing, and schools are full and you've got filling
applications and and all of that jazz. But it's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Is there anything you like you missed doing with him
that you wish you could go back in time and
do that thing again that would would never do?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah? Like that. The activities that places are more geared
for kids, you know, the clip and climb places, and
I don't know, like it just lego land and stuff
like that. It's all for kids in it. I miss
doing that, yeah, those things, and I miss it being
able to pick him up and cuddle him or carry
on my shoulders and shoulders is a big one in it.
(25:51):
You love them. I tried on my shoulders with day
and they brought my back, and I miss be called daddy. Yeah,
I don't like the transition to dad.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I do it, amams other night done it as well.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It's like the work. You're right dad, Yeah, but I
corrected him at first when he first started calling me dad. Daddy.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, we're talking about I mean daddy and I did do.
Will they do Lego with you?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Now? Yeah, I've met I like the I think Lego
is very meditator. It's good therapy, is Lego. But will
they will they play? Like he wants to do it
by himself? No, I don't. We don't play. We build
serious models, but no playing Teddy. Teddy, as you know,
has never been one for the figures and playing. But no,
(26:33):
nothing like that. We've been we're going for we go
for a kick around. I mean my knees are absolutely facked,
but we we went.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Oh yeah, that will carry on. We were playing loads
of football.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But that's the stuff you dream about as a dad.
And obviously, and this is something we share as well.
Brafford City is massive.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Oh yeah, is right into that moment here. Teddy is
absolutely obsessed. And and you you're really good. You do
you've been stocking plays training ground.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh it begs me to go, like, can we go
back to training. I went down, So we went down
to training because he needed to fill his autograph but
there were a few missing. So I was like, oh,
come on, we'll go down to training because I know
I would have loved it if my dad had gone
down and taken me down of training.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
We went down then, and then I took him to
the Player of the Year awards and he was getting
me to go and introduce him to players and stuff
like that fine and making it. He absolutely loves it. Yeah.
Then he's like, what we're going to do today dad?
Because it was was it a bank holiday? Yeah? No,
Bradford were playing on the Monday, weren't they. So we
had a Sunday no football and I said, well, Bradford
(27:28):
are probably training today. We go, there we go. Damn
I should have said anything. So then ad to take
him back down and had been so often that the
players were like, all right, how's it going? You back
again there?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Sending his security down.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Those stalkers are back. I say, oh, it's him. He's
begged me and who am I to deny him happiness.
I kept to put it on him, but I did
speak to Colin Doyle, he's going to come on the podcast.
Bradford City, former Wells current Bravitity goalkeeper, but he's goalie coach,
former Republic of Ireland international. He's played against Ronald I
think has he played against? Is played against some bappy.
(28:03):
It's so random that inn't it. But we bought it
for a pound, didn't we. Yeah, so we'll talk about that.
Let's not talk about it on this podcast. Let's talk
about it on the net. One. Do you know the
next transition for Teddy? Then?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So isn't it Bravid City? When do you think how
many years do you think he's got of that and
of doing it with you before he wants to go
off his mates and bing you off.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I don't think you'd be like that. No, I think
he'll always want to do it with me. That's good.
There's an away game and I don't fancy it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, if you break down like the segments of a
child's life, you don't get that long with him.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Do it like like it goes. It goes too quickly
if you if you're listening to this and you've got
a young child, you know under five, one to five?
Fucking relish it. Milk kit film everything tip pictures of everything.
I mean, Tom can tell you about that. The Tom's
biggest regret in life is that he's only started using
a camera phone last year.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
No, yeahn't, but I went my One of my main
priorities when at that age is I try to work
as little as possible, like it was it And that
was because someone once told me random uncle told me.
It says, you know, you can work all your life,
an earnload of money, but one thing you can't work
for his time, you know, And time is such a
precious thing and you can't buy time, you can't pay
(29:14):
for time, and it's not infinite, so use your time
wisely when they are young, and and even now you
know I tried to work as little as possible. You know,
it's bloody, is stressful, but like I think your dom's
right if you've got a fat and I honestly think
between three and eight that's five years of glorious children.
Child between betwe the low of three they don't know
(29:34):
what they're doing and the toddlers they're annoying.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
A lot of time, and they're like the mum more
than their dad normally, then the do do they do?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Unless you kneels son and he loves his dad, and
so you've got five years. And if you really boil
that down, that's five Christmases and five magical birthdays. Because
when they's got again eight nine and ten phones, you know,
TikTok YouTube.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You do lose them eventually. I was thinking about that
the other day though, Like you think our ages where thirty,
I'm thirty six or thirty what eight? Yes, I am,
So that's thirty eight christmases, thirty eight christmases. It's twenty
christmases since I left school, twenty christmases. I've got twenty christmases.
Is a left school?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
That is quite mental, really, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's insane.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I hate it. I actually hate it.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's what fifteen christmases since I was twenty one? Well,
I mean it.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
When we got to the age where we'd been seeing
each other going out slash married longer than we've been
alive before we saw each other, that was a big, oh.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
The big thing for me because mine's a bit skewed
because my wife was eight years older than me, so
it's a little bit skewed. But I realized how older
was when we were talking about that man City early
last week, and I realized I'm too old. I'm so
old that the possibility of dating someone who's twenty three
is borderline inappropriate. How old am I? But that's inappropriate?
(31:03):
I mean twenty three. It's only inappropriate if you're like
moither in her? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I think if she she might like all the men.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
We just don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
My grape is you literally said this podcast you wouldn't
go below a certain age. And it just because she
give you the eye in a press, in a in
an executive box. You're panicked, aren't you? You've panicked?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Let's be honest. It was a bit tongue in cheek
for starters. She is a professional athlete. She is way
out of my league.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
No, I don't. I don't think you can. I don't
think that's a thing.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I look like a fucking blue munge without my T
shirt on. It's definitely a thing.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
She might like a blu munge. I was doing her disservice.
She might like a bit of rough, she might like
she might not want to want to date a know,
a professional athlete. She might like anybody. I don't think that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I'm not saying she's shallow. I'm just saying she could
do better than me. She deserves better than me.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Why I was like, this is the thing?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Did for good? TikTok? Though I did did for good?
Did it? Did do quite well, didn't it. We're still
we're still struggling along with TikTok. We're getting there. We're old,
we are old. Anyway, Coming up this weekend, we've got
on a very very nervy weekend. Bradford City are playing
in the playoffs. If you listen to this and you're
not familiar with football, Brafford City finished in the playoff
(32:22):
area of the league table. Is how I can simplify it.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
And we're going to talk about bravid City for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Four teams get into their Bradford City of drum to
play against Carlisle. Carlisle are a bit of a bogie
team for Bradford City, so on Sunday Brafford City are
playing them. It's stressful. To add to that stress, Tom
and I got kicked out of our usual seats that
we're so comfortable with. Now Oh no, and soon we
talk about the plava of the ticketing of bred City. No,
(32:48):
it's fine. Let's not let's not do it. I want to.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I'm going to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's not people, it's really funny what happened.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And we're not blaming anybody. Don don't worry, not blaming people.
But basically, can I release the tickets? So I think
Bravetity panicked a bit and thought, shit, we need to
release our tickets. So they released the tickets online and
when people logged in, all your usual seat for your
seeing ticket was great out. So the people thought, oh
my god, they can't book those tickets. They've already sold.
(33:20):
So they booked other tickets and it's happened to a
lot of people. And then they put on Twitter Brad
and say, oh, by the way, you can actually book
those gray seats if you're clicking them. They were clickable.
If you could have you could actually book them. The
gray seats were clickable. Really sorry, and everyone like, I've booked,
I'm up sitting somewhere else. I want to change it,
and everyone just kicking off. So they went, we've done
(33:40):
a button. Now we've done a button. So they put
a button which said secure your seat.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Man. This is all a bit niche for people who
have Bravit City fans detail.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I think it's really interesting because they said secure your seat.
Now that could mean secure your season ticket seat or
secure any seat. It so again obscure people clicking on
that still seeing the gray seats. And in the end
the sold. Someone told me a random start. I don't
know where they heard it. They sold three thousand tickets
(34:11):
on that night to people who tried to book their
seatback to somewhere else, So three over three thousand fans
had to change back the seat.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Anyway, What about the actual game itself, not the ticketing crisis.
You know what it is. I know what it is.
You're too scared. You're worried about setting someone at the club.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Even I mentioned no name. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I tweeted, I tweeted for for f's sake. I've already
booked my tickets in the tail Dallas stand, a stand
that was built in nineteen eighty nine or something. Didn't
I I booked the tickets, Tom, Did I go through?
Did I? Was I the one that went through the
stress of booking the tickets? Yes, Dominice, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Dominic See that's that's your come back to that story.
You should say Why are you so passionate and angry
about that?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Tom?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
You didn't even book the sudden tickets. I booked the tickets.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's what you should have said. Yeah, but I just
don't figure that big of a deal. People were kicking
off all over and I was like, well, you know what,
I've got a ticket. I get to try out a
stand that I've not sat in since I was about
eleven away.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
All Right, you would have been annoyed if we could
have booked our ticket and you'd have booked up in
the gods at the copy it changed you, right ring.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, anyway, but we're fine, We're fine. We going to
the game. It's massive. It's on Sunday, Bradford versus Carlisle
for some reason, probably because of money at being exchange
hands by television companies. It's on at seven forty five
am on a Sunday. My child has school the next
day is it's seven seven whatever. It's gonna throw me off.
My body clock's gonna be all skew with because normally
(35:33):
I'm at football on a Saturday. Why am I here
on a Sunday night. It does mean though, Tom, but
we could probably make a day of it. Get a
few beerbies in.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
You know what, As I've got older, I've loved a
Sunday session is my preferable.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You know what we should do. We should go to
that Chinese noodle place on North Parade. Get a mixed
salt and pepper box. I just want to say a
massive congrat relations to an old school friend of mine,
Mark Jarvis, him and his girlfriend. I think they're engaged.
(36:07):
I should know that. Why don't I? Anyway, Mark Jarvis,
congratulations on the birth of your daughter. She's beautiful. Congratulations.
I hope you enjoy your paternity leave and I hope
you enjoy being a father. You'll be a brilliant dad mate.
Cherish your Mark. She's going to grow up. Tom. There's
a picture of baby love. Yeah, is this a baby?
Got a coronation baby grown there? You could have just
(36:28):
googled that image of a baby. I'm gonna be honest.
Javs a very quiet lad and I've only just as
we're recording this podcast, found out that it's had the baby.
And the post that he's put on Instagram says two
weeks of paternity leave comes to an end.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
What is just listen to the podcast?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I couldn't answer that I don't know one forth, tal
and te forth, till and so