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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We have come through a very turbulent week. It has
become clear that if we didn't know it before, I
know we did. But it has become clear of how
divided we are as a nation.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Politically.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We're divided racially, we're divided class wise, we're divided culturally,
we're divided gender wise. We are divided, and this election
has brought that up at an enormously high level. What
(00:44):
concerns me is that I hear I hear Christians being
as divided as the world. I can't control what the
non believing world does or does not do, but when
people of faith get caught up, it means we still
(01:10):
don't get it. So let me start with the premise
everything visible and physical is preceded by that which is
invisible and spiritual.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So if you want to.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Address the visible physical issues, you must first address the
invisible spiritual reality behind it, because if you miss that,
you've missed the root, and you're picking at the fruit
and all of these things that are trying to solve
all these dilemmas of fruit picking, not root addressing. So
(01:51):
let's get something straight about elections. The Bible says that
God puts up kings and tear kings down. So your vote,
whoever you voted for, is never the final say so.
(02:12):
The final say so is what God either causes or allows.
Now you are to vote, I am to vote, we
are to participate, But Heaven rules Never Canezza had to
learn that. Daniel said, Heaven rules earth.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And if you don't.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Understand that, then you're gonna get off shook up about
not liking something on Earth when Heaven is sitting behind it. Now,
what goes into God's decisions about what he allows, Yes,
our participation, but also what goes into it is whether
He's allowing it for blessing or for judgment, because he
(02:59):
allows what he allows either to bring blessing or to
bring judgment.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But one thing is inextricably clear.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
According to Hebrews chapter twelve, and that is God allows
things to get shaken, the author of Hebrews says, to
reveal his unshakable kingdom. So regardless of which way you voted,
(03:27):
God has created a gap that the Church needs to
take advantage of, because how do we expect them to
get along out there if we can't get along in here. However,
you voted, whether Democrat, Republican, or write in and dependent
because God doesn't ride the backs of donkeys or elephants. However,
(03:53):
you voted, you are now to be living like a
kingdom man and kingdom woman for the advancement.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Of the Kingdom of God.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So our job is to demonstrate what it looks like
when people of God represent the King, not the president,
the king in how we act, react, talk. When you
see some of the things that people are saying and
(04:26):
some of that attitudes being displayed, and then attach God's name.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
To it, it's a contradiction.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now, there may be racism out there, but there's not
going to be any racism in here, not up in here,
up in here, because we represent another kingdom. There may
(05:06):
be classism out there, but no classism in the church.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No big eyes and little youths in the church. No.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Our job is to represent the Kingdom of God and
to call God's people to do the same because this
is spiritual. It manifests itself politically, but this is spiritual.
Much to President Obama's credit, he set the tone in
(05:39):
his address after the election when he said, speaking politically,
we're not first Democrats or Republicans, we are Americans first.
And he said we're going to wish the best for
the president elect. The Bible says, honor the king. That's
(06:01):
what the scripture says, says, honor the king, and the
king he told them the honor was nero and he
was horrible. But you honor the position even when you
disagree with the person. And just like President Obama was
dishonored in many many ways, and that dishonor should be rejected.
(06:26):
Any dishonor of the position, even though we must address
individual issues with the person, is unbiblical, Unchristian, and is evil.
So do not let anyone here coming out of your
mouth dishonor, even though you may express disagreement, because you
(06:51):
represent the King, you represent Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And so.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Whether as an individual and what you say, and how
you interact and react, what you treat your train your
children to think and to do. You saw some of
the violence out there, that's just unspeakable. We have the
(07:21):
right to protest, but we have only the right to
protest to the help of others, not to the hurt
of others. Then, in the church, people know when they
walk through this door, they are embraced and welcomed. If
they hold a firm to the Lord Jesus who we love,
(07:43):
and if they don't, we want to introduce them, regardless
of race or color or culture. And then in our community,
people ought to see when you, when you step out
at your job, or in your school, or wherever you are,
(08:04):
that you are a kingdom citizen. The kingdom citizen is
a man or woman who is fully committed to Jesus Christ,
and their commitment to Christ seeks to bring heavenly principles
into earth's concerns. That's what we do. We bring Heaven
to bear on it. We don't just replicate what everybody
(08:26):
else is saying. Presidents come and go. There's only one
king that stays on the throne. So it is absolutely
critical during this day of chaos and confusion that you
go out of your way. We go out of our way.
(08:46):
The Bible says in Galatians six' ten do good to
all men as you have, opportunity but especially to the
household of.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Faith so.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Rather than fossen costs and cry and create, havoc let
our good work speak for.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Us let people see.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That we Represent we Represent god's, house because trust, Me
god's not going to skip the church house to fix
The white. House he always starts with his. People ephesians
three ten says he works through the church to deal
with the principalities and the powers.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And the things you can.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Do that's why you know that little thing we're doing
where you pick up from the, bookstore the little. Card
we've asked all of our members to be conscious to
do good, works to be conscious when you see a
need And god pricks your heart to address it and
to give the person you meet the need of a little.
(09:57):
Card you just experience a ran an act of kindness
from a person At Old Cliff Bible. Fellowship and if
you need more prayer or, help contact us because we're
here to make things. Better AND i just stir mess.
Up we're here to make things. BETTER i got a
got a card in the in the, mail and this
(10:23):
is what was. Written they got a picture of the
of our card that we hand out when we do good.
WORKS i just wanted to let you know THAT i
was on a plane Yesterday, Sunday october two with two
of your members on their way to a Fiftieth class
reunion cruise out Of, galveston and they were two of
the kindest and warm hearted INDIVIDUALS i have met they
(10:45):
gave me the above card and we had a lovely.
Chat UNFORTUNATELY i did not even get their. Name and
although we didn't have but an hour flight, together their
warmth touched my. Heart and the way they spoke of
their church just prompted me to reach out to, you
to let you know about, them see that that people
(11:05):
ought to be saying that.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
About. US a week, ago An anglo.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Visitor who had visited our church stopped me and she,
SAID i came to church AND i was, hurting AND
i sat down there AND i was just. Crying one
of your members came. Over never met them to know
who they, were and they wrapped their arms around me
and they prayed for. Me and more than the sermon
(11:38):
or the, song having them love on me in my
pain was what changed my. Day that's being Christ like
and Being. Christian so don't so come to all the.
Noise it's a lot of, noise a lot of noise
(12:01):
on both. Sides now we represent another king and another,
kingdom and that's.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
What should come.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Forth one of our members was on the way yesterday
and they were walking Up Camp, wisdom and then one
of the another of our members was driving and saw
this member carrying two bags walking up the.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Street.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And they pulled their car over and, said, well you
don't have to. Walk i'll be glad to drive you
to where you want to. Go the member who had
the two bags, said, no that's, Okay i'm almost WHERE
i need to, go but thank. You the sister pulled
off and then doubled back around to the member who
(12:51):
was carrying the two bags and, said you, know you
really don't have to walk Because i'm a member Of
Oacliff Bible fellowship And i'd.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Love to serve you and take you away you need to.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Go remember with the two, bags said, well, BOY i
Really she put her, head stuck her head in the
car and, said you, KNOW i thank, you thank, you
BUT i really almost WHERE i need to, go AND
i really appreciate. It the member in the car looked
to the member stuck her head in and, Said Sister,
EVANS i didn't know that was.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You it's just happened.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yesterday i'm sure glad she ain't drive off she just
But i'm talking about the spirit that comes out of
our church everywhere our members, live, work, play go to.
School you represent The king Of, kings and, yes fight
(13:50):
for your biblically based political. Position but fight righteously and
truthfully and with love and, kindness not the. Treoll and
so in this, chaos voices of reason on your job
and wherever you, are voices of, reason with truth and
(14:13):
with love need to step. Forth these are dark days
with great opportunity if we take advantage of it as
the people Of. God and SO i want to pray
for our, nation BUT i can't do that without remembering our.
Veteran if you're a, veteran please stand up so we
can thank you for your service to The United states Of.
(14:37):
America remain standing. VETERANS i want to pray for, you
even as we pray for our. COUNTRY i want to
Thank god for. You you're on behalf of Oak. Cliff thank
you for how you have served Oak, Cliff Bible, fellowship
(14:58):
and beyond The United, state our beloved. Nation let's Pray,
Father we thank, You.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We thank. You thank You lord for the men and
women in the.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Various parts of the services that we render to keep
us safe and. Free for the sacrifice of, time, talent,
energy and well being that they have. Given you said
that the purpose of, government first and foremost is to
protect its, citizens so thank you that they have been
(15:37):
involved in protecting, us and we do not want to
dumb down what they have done by forgetting to thank
you for.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Them.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Lord we pray for our president as he plans to
exit his role of commander in, chief that you would
Bless President obama and his, wife that you will protect.
Them AND i thank you for the years that you've
given them to us as our. Leader but now we
(16:16):
pray for The president elect Because god's sovereignty allowed it to,
happen and you, said pray for them who are in,
authority and SO i pray for the president, Elect president
Elect trump and his. Cabinet may he choose the right
people who will give him the right advice so that
(16:37):
we are experienced well being as a. Nation most of,
ALL i pray for this church and your, church that
we will not become part of the, problem but become
part of the. Solution and we will give you the
honor and the glory for allowing us to be participants
in a country that gives us the privilege of casting
(16:58):
a vote and being. Parts and we'll give you the
honor and the glory In jesus, Name All god's people Said,
amen And. Amen and, amen
We have come through a very turbulent week. It has
become clear that if we didn't know it before, I
know we did. But it has become clear of how
divided we are as a nation.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Politically.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We're divided racially, we're divided class wise, we're divided culturally,
we're divided gender wise. We are divided, and this election
has brought that up at an enormously high level. What
(00:44):
concerns me is that I hear I hear Christians being
as divided as the world. I can't control what the
non believing world does or does not do, but when
people of faith get caught up, it means we still
(01:10):
don't get it. So let me start with the premise
everything visible and physical is preceded by that which is
invisible and spiritual.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So if you want to.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Address the visible physical issues, you must first address the
invisible spiritual reality behind it, because if you miss that,
you've missed the root, and you're picking at the fruit
and all of these things that are trying to solve
all these dilemmas of fruit picking, not root addressing. So
(01:51):
let's get something straight about elections. The Bible says that
God puts up kings and tear kings down. So your vote,
whoever you voted for, is never the final say so.
(02:12):
The final say so is what God either causes or allows.
Now you are to vote, I am to vote, we
are to participate, But Heaven rules Never Canezza had to
learn that. Daniel said, Heaven rules earth.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And if you don't.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Understand that, then you're gonna get off shook up about
not liking something on Earth when Heaven is sitting behind it. Now,
what goes into God's decisions about what he allows, Yes,
our participation, but also what goes into it is whether
He's allowing it for blessing or for judgment, because he
(02:59):
allows what he allows either to bring blessing or to
bring judgment.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But one thing is inextricably clear.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
According to Hebrews chapter twelve, and that is God allows
things to get shaken, the author of Hebrews says, to
reveal his unshakable kingdom. So regardless of which way you voted,
(03:27):
God has created a gap that the Church needs to
take advantage of, because how do we expect them to
get along out there if we can't get along in here. However,
you voted, whether Democrat, Republican, or write in and dependent
because God doesn't ride the backs of donkeys or elephants. However,
(03:53):
you voted, you are now to be living like a
kingdom man and kingdom woman for the advancement.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Of the Kingdom of God.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So our job is to demonstrate what it looks like
when people of God represent the King, not the president,
the king in how we act, react, talk. When you
see some of the things that people are saying and
(04:26):
some of that attitudes being displayed, and then attach God's name.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
To it, it's a contradiction.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now, there may be racism out there, but there's not
going to be any racism in here, not up in here,
up in here, because we represent another kingdom. There may
(05:06):
be classism out there, but no classism in the church.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No big eyes and little youths in the church. No.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Our job is to represent the Kingdom of God and
to call God's people to do the same because this
is spiritual. It manifests itself politically, but this is spiritual.
Much to President Obama's credit, he set the tone in
(05:39):
his address after the election when he said, speaking politically,
we're not first Democrats or Republicans, we are Americans first.
And he said we're going to wish the best for
the president elect. The Bible says, honor the king. That's
(06:01):
what the scripture says, says, honor the king, and the
king he told them the honor was nero and he
was horrible. But you honor the position even when you
disagree with the person. And just like President Obama was
dishonored in many many ways, and that dishonor should be rejected.
(06:26):
Any dishonor of the position, even though we must address
individual issues with the person, is unbiblical, Unchristian, and is evil.
So do not let anyone here coming out of your
mouth dishonor, even though you may express disagreement, because you
(06:51):
represent the King, you represent Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And so.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Whether as an individual and what you say, and how
you interact and react, what you treat your train your
children to think and to do. You saw some of
the violence out there, that's just unspeakable. We have the
(07:21):
right to protest, but we have only the right to
protest to the help of others, not to the hurt
of others. Then, in the church, people know when they
walk through this door, they are embraced and welcomed. If
they hold a firm to the Lord Jesus who we love,
(07:43):
and if they don't, we want to introduce them, regardless
of race or color or culture. And then in our community,
people ought to see when you, when you step out
at your job, or in your school, or wherever you are,
(08:04):
that you are a kingdom citizen. The kingdom citizen is
a man or woman who is fully committed to Jesus Christ,
and their commitment to Christ seeks to bring heavenly principles
into earth's concerns. That's what we do. We bring Heaven
to bear on it. We don't just replicate what everybody
(08:26):
else is saying. Presidents come and go. There's only one
king that stays on the throne. So it is absolutely
critical during this day of chaos and confusion that you
go out of your way. We go out of our way.
(08:46):
The Bible says in Galatians six' ten do good to
all men as you have, opportunity but especially to the
household of.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Faith so.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Rather than fossen costs and cry and create, havoc let
our good work speak for.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Us let people see.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That we Represent we Represent god's, house because trust, Me
god's not going to skip the church house to fix
The white. House he always starts with his. People ephesians
three ten says he works through the church to deal
with the principalities and the powers.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And the things you can.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Do that's why you know that little thing we're doing
where you pick up from the, bookstore the little. Card
we've asked all of our members to be conscious to
do good, works to be conscious when you see a
need And god pricks your heart to address it and
to give the person you meet the need of a little.
(09:57):
Card you just experience a ran an act of kindness
from a person At Old Cliff Bible. Fellowship and if
you need more prayer or, help contact us because we're
here to make things. Better AND i just stir mess.
Up we're here to make things. BETTER i got a
got a card in the in the, mail and this
(10:23):
is what was. Written they got a picture of the
of our card that we hand out when we do good.
WORKS i just wanted to let you know THAT i
was on a plane Yesterday, Sunday october two with two
of your members on their way to a Fiftieth class
reunion cruise out Of, galveston and they were two of
the kindest and warm hearted INDIVIDUALS i have met they
(10:45):
gave me the above card and we had a lovely.
Chat UNFORTUNATELY i did not even get their. Name and
although we didn't have but an hour flight, together their
warmth touched my. Heart and the way they spoke of
their church just prompted me to reach out to, you
to let you know about, them see that that people
(11:05):
ought to be saying that.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
About. US a week, ago An anglo.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Visitor who had visited our church stopped me and she,
SAID i came to church AND i was, hurting AND
i sat down there AND i was just. Crying one
of your members came. Over never met them to know
who they, were and they wrapped their arms around me
and they prayed for. Me and more than the sermon
(11:38):
or the, song having them love on me in my
pain was what changed my. Day that's being Christ like
and Being. Christian so don't so come to all the.
Noise it's a lot of, noise a lot of noise
(12:01):
on both. Sides now we represent another king and another,
kingdom and that's.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
What should come.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Forth one of our members was on the way yesterday
and they were walking Up Camp, wisdom and then one
of the another of our members was driving and saw
this member carrying two bags walking up the.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Street.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And they pulled their car over and, said, well you
don't have to. Walk i'll be glad to drive you
to where you want to. Go the member who had
the two bags, said, no that's, Okay i'm almost WHERE
i need to, go but thank. You the sister pulled
off and then doubled back around to the member who
(12:51):
was carrying the two bags and, said you, know you
really don't have to walk Because i'm a member Of
Oacliff Bible fellowship And i'd.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Love to serve you and take you away you need to.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Go remember with the two, bags said, well, BOY i
Really she put her, head stuck her head in the
car and, said you, KNOW i thank, you thank, you
BUT i really almost WHERE i need to, go AND
i really appreciate. It the member in the car looked
to the member stuck her head in and, Said Sister,
EVANS i didn't know that was.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You it's just happened.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yesterday i'm sure glad she ain't drive off she just
But i'm talking about the spirit that comes out of
our church everywhere our members, live, work, play go to.
School you represent The king Of, kings and, yes fight
(13:50):
for your biblically based political. Position but fight righteously and
truthfully and with love and, kindness not the. Treoll and
so in this, chaos voices of reason on your job
and wherever you, are voices of, reason with truth and
(14:13):
with love need to step. Forth these are dark days
with great opportunity if we take advantage of it as
the people Of. God and SO i want to pray
for our, nation BUT i can't do that without remembering our.
Veteran if you're a, veteran please stand up so we
can thank you for your service to The United states Of.
(14:37):
America remain standing. VETERANS i want to pray for, you
even as we pray for our. COUNTRY i want to
Thank god for. You you're on behalf of Oak. Cliff thank
you for how you have served Oak, Cliff Bible, fellowship
(14:58):
and beyond The United, state our beloved. Nation let's Pray,
Father we thank, You.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We thank. You thank You lord for the men and
women in the.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Various parts of the services that we render to keep
us safe and. Free for the sacrifice of, time, talent,
energy and well being that they have. Given you said
that the purpose of, government first and foremost is to
protect its, citizens so thank you that they have been
(15:37):
involved in protecting, us and we do not want to
dumb down what they have done by forgetting to thank
you for.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Them.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Lord we pray for our president as he plans to
exit his role of commander in, chief that you would
Bless President obama and his, wife that you will protect.
Them AND i thank you for the years that you've
given them to us as our. Leader but now we
(16:16):
pray for The president elect Because god's sovereignty allowed it to,
happen and you, said pray for them who are in,
authority and SO i pray for the president, Elect president
Elect trump and his. Cabinet may he choose the right
people who will give him the right advice so that
(16:37):
we are experienced well being as a. Nation most of,
ALL i pray for this church and your, church that
we will not become part of the, problem but become
part of the. Solution and we will give you the
honor and the glory for allowing us to be participants
in a country that gives us the privilege of casting
(16:58):
a vote and being. Parts and we'll give you the
honor and the glory In jesus, Name All god's people Said,
amen And. Amen and, amen
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