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June 15, 2025 88 mins
The talented and hilarious Alan Tudyk joins us to discuss his career full of iconic roles on screen and in voice for Disney classics, directing himself in the upcoming season of Resident Alien and everything in between. Stay Toon'd!


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Do it now?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Is it great?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Your favorite firefly you desire? Hold old knock Gud.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned In.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In when
Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris, joined as always by the
legend himself, mister Jim Cummings. How are you doing today, sir?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Back in the settle again. Welcome everyone, Welcome everyone.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
And we're very privileged today to have an absolutely talented,
phenomenal just create, director, producer, actor, voiceover artist, I mean everything,
Alan Tude. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hello, that's such a cool list.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, a few people know that you're a terrible failed mime.
See I told I knew I could get him to
say something. See he's still bad ass. You still can't
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Every time I get in that box and how bay,
I start screaming because it's I have clusters.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well I couldn't. I couldn't resist because you know we have.
But you know, I used to you know, down in
the French Quarter. I'm kind of almost from New Orleans,
and I used to think, you know, the street performers,
you know, they're all over and a lot of mimes. Really,
who doesn't love mimes well to an extent?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I can, I can? I can argue a good mind
four mimes there are, yeah, but there's the bad minds.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well I thought I was going to do one and
I'd be Lenny, the amazing talking mimew does he do it?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
And you get the you're doing the kite and go, whoa,
look at this it's a windy of what Look at
this kite.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's a k A the kite that's a kite. Look
at me?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You know? And uh, and then I would starve. I
don't know, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
For the originality. I think I would throw some at
least beads, at least I want to see your chest. Yeah,
if that's if that's on the old thing.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, so you've been to Martin Goros then, so
you know that I've been.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
They started giving out beads just it like became a
thing just around year round, it seems like in some places.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, oh yeah, well all of the telephone poles and
wires and everything, they've all got beads hanging from them.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
And the and the extreme drinking has heard become a
year a year round thing as well. It's not just
during this let's do it, let's do it up because
this is the only time we can do is. Yeah,
they stray down. There's money in the budget to spray
down Bourbon Street every night. Every night there vomit, thank god,

(03:10):
vomit all cod st that's rough.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yes, great town great towns.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Stay away from that Bourbon Street.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's got yeah on it. Yeah yeah, you know, just
walk down once and say you did it.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Then leave.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah you know, oh look breasts okay, got it, got
it and see and see.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah that was good food someplace.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
But there is good food. There is nothing but good food.
I always say, if you go to New Orleans and
get a decent meal, you should be pissed because it
should have been amazing.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
You want to call people up on the phone. And
I'm not even getting a dime from the New Orleans
Chamber of Commerce for this incredible ad that we're accidentally
doing here.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
People love people who are from there or spend time
their love love that place.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, and you grew up not too far away over
in the great state of Texas.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yehaw man, I grew up in Dallas, in North Texas. Yeah,
I don't get I don't you know the good miles
and miles of Texas. It's a it's an interesting place,
you know. It's so very Yeah, just high on its
own supply Texas.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
A Texas flag above my bed as a kid, what kid?
What is that?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
He's got state pride at eleven.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, and why not weird? Yeah, but you made it work.
It's apparently so well.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It does instill in you a drive for competition, which
I think is has a lot of negatives and uh
in our industry, and it also has some positives. If
because you need a really strong drive in the in
the business too. Oh yeah, you know, overcome all of
the nose and door slamming your face to finally find it.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Well that's true. I mean, that's that's
kind of like the old adage. You have to be
able to hear a lot of no's, but it only
takes that one good yes.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I And you found yours a while ago, so you're
going pretty well, right.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well I did, I did. I found my first yes
in nineteen ninety six, I think five ninety six, for
doing a workshop of a play called Bunny Bunny that
Alan's wy Bell wrote about Gilda Radner about his relationship
with Gilda Radner. He was a writer the first season

(05:37):
of Saturday Night Live, and they had an almost love
affair and became best friends. And it was a woman
named Paula Kal played Gilda Radner and Bruno Kirby played
Alan's y Bell. Oh, and then I played everybody else. Oh.
He would have loved it, man. You would have had
a blast doing that because it was a it was
a character actor role. And I got my first voice

(05:58):
over job from that because I'd come.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
On because they'd hear you're doing all these I.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Was a French person who came a French wat there
who came in, and I would say, what was your
extion from age? And then I turned to the audience
and say one year later and flip the cheeseboard over
and all the cheese is molded. Oh. I run off
stage and I turn into Gil. That's a friend, big
bone Judy, who was so upset because she just her

(06:23):
husband just left.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
What they're doing?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh, that's great.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
And then I grew off and somebody else I could
see her.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I got to see her there you disappeared for a moment.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Are you doing costume changes all the while?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Man, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah. That was part of it was all about like
how did he get that? You know?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
The first goal? Yeah, fat suits. But I was the
only element that was doing that. And then they continued
this love affair, almost love affair, and I got a
roll on ice age rolls, three little bitty rolls on
ice age.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And it came from that. And it came from that.
But then I didn't work, you know, because I smoked
the cigarettes. I couldn't get any voice over work. And
it was like the day I quit smoking cigarettes, I
started getting voice over work really okay, Yeah, for nineteen
years to get it to work for me.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Kind of raggedy gave you the voice of like horse
or something.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Or once I got rid of him, my voice came out,
Oh like I had just I would just in my range,
but just shrink, shrink shrinks, and I couldn't didn't do
anything interesting. Yeah, that's the one vice I never bothered with.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
And I'm glad. I'm glad for it. Yeah, yeah, you know,
And I credit my dad, God restless soul. It's not
that I was healthy or smart or anything remotely like that.
I just thought it stunk.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It does, and it does.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, you know, because my dad, you know, he's
smoking what was it Lucky strikes or I think it
was lucky strikes, No camels, camels, And he would put
out the cigarette, but he wouldn't put it out all
the way, and it would sit there and and just
smoke away. And it had that little column of air

(08:08):
column of smoke that I could still see it, and
it looked a little blue when the sunlight went through it.
And then he was BALI was putting this one out,
he was getting another one from his shirt. Wow, And
I was thinking, Dad, just maybe some oxygen. I don't know,
but I just thought it stunk because it stunk.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'll still smell the some people when I when I
smell it, and I can smell it, so I'm I'm
somebody who was able to go, you're smoking. I can
just look at a cracker. That's you're the one who smokes.
It's in your clothes. But I'll still if somebody likes
a cigarette, it still smells good to me. But I
had to smoke in in a thing. Recently, you get
the fake cigarettes that are made with herbs in tobacco. Oh, yes,

(08:53):
you're not addictive, but oh you couldn't wash it off
your hands, you couldn't get it out of your hair.
It was just it's just just.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
And it's a weird taste too, isn't it. It's like
a weird taste. It's like the fake cigarette. Yeah, it's
like burning a leaf. Like, Yes, I tried one. I
used to work in props and I was like, I
have to smoke one of these, because you know, I
was a smoker too, and I was like, I just
need to see, like what this taste like. And it
was like the weirdest, driest like it gave me like
the driest throat and like, I'd just request to smoke

(09:22):
a cigarette if I was filming. You can't do that, Huh.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, I have. And there's a trick. There's a problem
with that because you have when you smoke a cigarette,
you product have to always know, you have to always
keep it sort of at the same length because of continuity,
and they're cutting and doing different shots and dagas that
you end up smoking so many cigarettes and you get
a huge dose of nicotine that it can double your addiction.

(09:47):
That's what happened to me. It smells like an orphanage fire,
the fake cigarettes, like an orphanage fire.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh yeah, No, nobody likes fire and an org.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Not.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Corella Deville didn't even like that.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, man, oh man.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I heard you say on Letter Marlton's podcast that that
play Bunny Bunny was kind of like reflective of your
entire career. You know, You've gotten to play so many
different characters, and you know, I wouldn't even I personally
wouldn't call you a character actor because when I think
of a character actor, I think of like over the top,
almost like goofiness. But like you know, but your characters

(10:27):
are so rooted, like they're so they're like different people,
like I don't know, researching your career and seeing everything
that you've done, I feel like you've had just such
an actor's career, you know, gotten you to experience so
many different roles and so many different paths and methods
of acting. It's really inspirational to me. And it's really
cool to see that because it takes a lot of

(10:50):
courage to do that as well.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I guess, yeah, yeah, I it's you know I now
I want to do like I want to learn how
to act. What I mean by that I want to do.
I'm going to do a movie in July. It's a
small movie that was a play and it's going to

(11:14):
be made into a film called Ideation. Uh and yeah,
I guess I can Ideation. It's independent movies need all
the love they can share. We haven't shot it yet,
and it's you know, uh.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
To the theater near you right away.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's about a year from now. Yeah. But he's he
works in corporate world. He's a consultant, one of those
awful people. But he's just because he's a dad and
he's just like this guy. I cannot wait to play
that role because it's I can play almost crazy, Like

(11:50):
I feel like I'm the guy where they go, who's
going to play this? This is like this is a
you know what, hey get Alan, get Alan, see if
he has a take on this weird robot who has
this thing or whatever. This is just a guy that
I feel like a lot of guys can play, and
that's going to be more of a challenge for me
than a robot pirate, which I really want to play.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, you played a robot pirate?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah yeah, I got to mash that up there you go.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well, you know, one of my favorites was your your
in King Candy.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Oh thanks you, I mean was my favorite. That was
like a license to steal. That was my introduction to Disney. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Oh yeah, well that was a damn fine one.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah you won an Annie for that role, did you not?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
And any Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah that's great.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah those are cool as hell. I wouldn't know personally,
but I hear. I'm sorry, go on, go on.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, you don't do the movies, do you? You don't
do movies. You don't do you do Disney movies?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh? I did a lot of Disney movies.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, that's the same. Oh yeah, oh, you
haven't gotten Annie.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
No, I haven't gotten any I've been up for five Emmys.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
There was a talk of putting me up for an
Oscar for Vanity Fair. Uh said it for Christopher Robin, Yes,
and uh and and Emmy's five Emmys, five Annie's. I'm
oh for everything, I'm oh for ten. Wow, I'm you
are literally hanging in there.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
You're like the Leo DiCaprio. It's because you're so good.
They're like, yeah, there, you just so I mean, I'm
sure that's it.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, I think that is it.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
You're I mean, but you know, hey the check Claiyers. Yeah,
I mean, well I've won, I've won one Annie, and
then they don't haven't been. I was, yeah, I met
somebody who works at the end and they're like, would
you ever want to come and give an award away?
I was like, yes, oh absolutely great. That was like

(13:55):
two years ago.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I think, well, I did it like five times, and
each time I wasn't presenting like my own award. I
was presenting other people awards, and I showed up five
times thinking, well, you know, they asked me to yes,
I bet I win. I'm just sure that I'm gonna win.
I didn't. I didn't really know. Oh, okay, next year,

(14:18):
how about this year? You want to come? Sure, I'm
gonna win.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Five times in a row. And I said.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Then they called me the next year. You know, I'm busy.
When is it? And so I'm they're bad like that.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I watched someone take that. I watched someone announced their
own an award that they were in Spike Jones. We
were like, what is he doing here? This is amazing.
I think Spike Jones he directed that puppet remember there
was like a puppet movie. It was weird. Their faces
came off, it was like it was an It was

(14:54):
an odd movie. He always does odd movies. Very cool
for me. I'm sure I'm getting it wrong. And people
were watching him this and going and you're missing it.
Yeah that didn't happen. But it was someone who works
with Spike Jones, if not Spike Jones. And he announced
the awards and Spike Lee, no, I get this to

(15:15):
so much. They anyway, he had to announce and me
and then he didn't win, and it was like wow,
they had him up there doing like he had to
announced three awards and then the last one was the
one that he was up for and he didn't win.
Ooh yeah, that's rough.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh there was the one Academy award where somebody was
being really glib and said come up and get it.
Marty and the wrong I can't remember the name, but
there were two guys that were up for the Academy Award.
This is like fifteen to twenty years ago, and the
wrong Marty got up. Oh no, no, sorry, it's it's

(15:53):
not here. It's the other guy down.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Marty Feldman had to go sit.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Back in fact whoever it was. Yeahful everybody wants a trophy.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I thought about making a trophy case I have won.
I have this one Anny. I have one very cool
uh theater award that was called the Clarence Derwent Award
that goes to a the actor, one actor and one

(16:27):
male and one female actor in a season who have
their New York theater debut and they win and it
could be in any kind of theater off Broadway, off
off Broadway or Broadway. And I won with Alison Janny
that year. She's an actress. You know, I haven't heard
of her. She hasn't done much sinse Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(16:49):
Alison Jani won that year and it was and it
came with a thousand dollars prize and I didn't have
any rent money, so oh wow, okay it paid my rent.
That workedest. But I thought about getting making a trophy
case in my house with like wrestling belts and bowling
trophies and you can just go buy them.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, well they're at a pawn shop, brand new ones made.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
You can even get golden glooms and things. And there's
a little black market going on that. Wow, I can
hook you up.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
We'll talk about Okay, yeah, get get an academic.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Award there, you go, get a doctor somewhere.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well that's yeah, yeah, yes, wherever you want.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
You just buy that, put it in a case and
say uh huh and invite people over.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
And just right, I did that, like like like Mike
Tyson when he was given an award from a Tuskegee
Institute or something like this. Exist Well, I never I
never attended college but and to get a degree. But
if I did, I would be a kind of homologist. No,

(18:00):
And I thought, yes, yes, but you know no women
have to Yeah, we know, Mike, we know, we get it.
We get it. A Guyana komologist. There's a show Starbary.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
It would be amazing. Yeah, I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't
want that.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
No, and you're sitting there smeared by him.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
He couldn't know.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
That'd be a rough one.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, that would be rough.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Fun I heard that. I heard they're painful already. But
enough about that. Yes, I couldn't believe when I was
looking up your credits, and it's one of my favorite
movies ever that you played Sonny and I Robot. First
of all, what a performance, great job, great job, Thank you.
I awesome movie. I have one really specific thing to

(18:46):
ask you, just for me personally about that movie. I heard,
I don't know. I was at a convention with my
dad like ten years ago, literally ten years ago, twenty fifteen,
over in London, and there was some guy who worked
on that show. I can't remember if he was a
or something, you know, one of the higher up guys,
and he's telling us about that long story short. He
said that for movies like that, because you know it's

(19:06):
set in twenty thirty five, way in the future, right,
that they have like a division of people who like
research like what specifically could be the most accurate aspects
of our future reality to try and emulate that. And
as we approach twenty thirty five, I mean, look at
like the technology that we have. It's not that far
fetched from robot anymore, is it.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
God, yeah, they do find cars and everything.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
So my question to you is do you know of
like a division like that that worked on that movie
or no? Or is that they have to do it?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I mean to they do that, but they they can
even because they're big, big movie budget people, and it
was especially back then with the movie industry is a
lot stronger. I remember Outing May designed the car for us,
and then that was something that we had to keep
under wraps and h M. Only a few people could
look at it. And then it was a closed set

(19:57):
when they had the Audi car that they were using,
because it had those wheels that that are adjusted. Yeah,
their globes so they can go sideways, forward, backwards and
all that. There are cars now that have those. They're
still they're still on the fringes, but they do. They
do make them. Yeah, so they're always.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, they have the Hummer. Now the new Hummer can
do like the crab walk. It can't go any direction,
but it can go like pretty much sideways, you know,
not ninety degrees but maybe like seventy or sixty or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, And it's cool too because motion capture was like
really in its infancy back then, so you were like
one of the first actors that really got to experience
that then. And then years later, you know, working on
Rogue one.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they I want to call them the
Hobbit moves. Lord of the Rings first came out, and
so Andy Serkis was the one person who had done it,
and that's how everybody understood it. And I got the
job and I wore the spandex. It was the coolest

(20:58):
part about it was the first month where it was
just me and this guy whose name I don't remember, Steve,
I remember his last name. He was a theater he
worked in theater somehow. And they said, we're getting you
a choreographer to work with to figure out how you're
going to move. And I was like, no, I don't
need a choreographer. I need ach I need a movement specialist.
I need somebody. And I was like, this isn't going

(21:20):
to this. This is a bad idea. And I was
waiting at this table outside we were going to have
a conference about the way the robot moved. And there
was a guy sitting who came in. He was sitting
over down on the same big, long corporate table, and
he and I are looking at each other and I said,
are you the guy that I'm meeting? And he's like, yeah,
you're allan I'm okay, yeah, great. So we introduced ourselves

(21:40):
to one another, and I said, I got some books
and I put down Alexander technique, which is a way
that we all move. You know a lot of actors
and acting school. That's where I was introduced to it.
It's the skelet It's sort of the ergonomic way that
you should move with your skeleton, as like if you
look at little toddlers, they have perfect posture and when
they fall, you know, they just kind of sit. It's like,

(22:01):
that's how our bodies are supposed to move. And then
as we get older, we have injuries or we have
something about ourselves that we cover up and it changes
how we or we want to look cool.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I didn't know that that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
And so it was that I was like this, and
then I had a book on mime, had a book
on mime I had something else and he pulled out
almost the same books. I was like, oh, this is
gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So we were watching like Kabookie theater and stuff, and
he was the only thing I had to do the
first month was just I'd be taken to the gym
to work out where they wanted me bulky so that
I moved with muscle and so I got a killer shape.
And then I would go to the studio and he
and I would just do theater work. It was so great. Yeah, wow,

(22:45):
And then we made the movie. The movie was great,
and Will Smith was lovely, and Bridget moynihan was funny, and.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
You used to have a crush on her. I could
see why. Yeah, she's very pretty. H Yeah, she's attractive.
She's and she's also if you at that time, I
don't know if she's now. She was kind of like
a guy.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
She's like really easy, like she seemed like she had
brothers or something like.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh yeah, she was yeah, not not the standoffish.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, she had to because she wore this this is
maybe no, but this, so she'd have to wear all
these tight clothes, like her pants were like painted on,
and she had to have a mic pack, Like where
are they going to put the mic pack? So it
would have to be somewhere, and when she would get
done with a take, she'd nun zip these pants from behind.

(23:32):
I remember her sitting in front of me and you
could just see like half of her butt is hanging out,
like boy in a hand, I'm looking at your ass.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah I don't like the view. Yeah, yeah, I liked.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
She was like really like, you're welcome, like a pal.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like one of the guys, except with
the really cute.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
But yes, exactly like my friend John cute ass anyway, Yeah,
e noybody knows cute ass.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
John cute ass John. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well it was a fun. It was a fun six
month experience.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
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Speaker 2 (24:36):
I thought that's why they were gonna. I was auditioning
for Rogue one because I had done that, and when
I first met the director, Caret Edwards, I said he
was like, so we're going to have this robot. I
was like, Okay, here's how you gotta do it, and
I just was from that point. He's like, we're going
to do every small film eye blinks and just we're
going to do exactly that on the robot. We're going

(24:58):
to do this this, And I was like, just stop,
stop stuff up. You're not gonna do that, and don't
even say you're gonna do that, because you're gonna marry
yourself to something you can't follow through, and then whoever
plays this role is going to feel like you lied
to them.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
So just don't even start there.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
You're gonna get in post and you're gonna need things done.
My face is not the same as the face that's
gonna be there, and my face tells a story that
that face doesn't. And once you put all the elements together,
you might just need the head to bow a little
bit to tell the story. And that's fine, and this
is and then they then I got the role. I

(25:33):
couldn't believe it. I was very exciting and.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
K Tuso is a lot more like robotic than Sonny, right,
like he has he's stiffer.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, that's because I was. Yeah, and he doesn't have
eyes like his eyes don't they blinked.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
They're like the Iron Giant like, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
They blinked at one point and then they took the
blinking out because because it's a prequel, it had to
be the same technology as it had to be so
C three pos screwed me. It's basically what I started
to see the review. And man, guy, I love what
it is. We have a fun rivalry. He wins, but

(26:13):
it's fun. And I was I was also on stilts,
so I was a little stiffer too because it was
I couldn't move around as easy.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Well, yeah, I just thought it was like a character choice.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, that's it. There you go said, we're gonna make
this one stiffer. Okay, guys, yeah, I shouldn't me some
stilts that forced me to walk a little bit. That's
awesome and I lm provided it.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Oh man, well you've you've had a career in front
of the camera, next to the camera, behind the camera,
in front of a microphone. I mean, do you dance
as well. I mean, no, I don't and I can't sing.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Oh I know, I see, I see. I've come into
voiceover like it was Kincandy. Really is when it's when
things are not a bad kickoff, right, because it was
it had the nostalgia because it was Edwin and he
has that great history with Disney and Ah. Then I

(27:16):
did a small role in Frozen because the same Jennifer
Lee was doing Frozen at the same time, in the
way that you know they all work on the same projects. Yeah,
so they were straddling a couple of projects. Say hey,
we're we're reviving this thing that's been on the back
burner for years called Frozen. Would you play this older
man in it? So then I did the Duke of

(27:36):
Wesselton and it was such a big hit. John Lassiter
was the one who said he's a good luck charm.
I was like, yep, that's exactly right. That's why those
two that's worked. Yeah, no other reason but me. And
once they committed to that, oh then you don't want
to anyways, they didn't want to break off the idea.

(27:59):
And so I've had this career and then because I
got the green line from Disney. Then other people are like, hey,
you wanted to come to a voice on this show
and this show on the show, one thing led to another.
But I'm just nice. I've had to learn as I go.
I consider like you're real and you're truly this is
something you do and you're a master of it. I'm

(28:22):
I feel like I've just started to get going, get going.
Like I'm just like, oh, I think I know what
I'm doing. I think I know where where I make
my mistakes, where I can get caught and making a voice,
and that's the thing. I forget to act for a
second and oh yeah, like you're on your fourth round
of three takes and like, wait, what am I not doing?

(28:46):
This is oh I'm not acting, and let me put
myself in the place this character wants this. I'm asking, okay,
we're in this play and then let my imagination. It's
just a quick, you know, adjustment, and then they're like
that's it and then you surprisingly move on right after that.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Nice, but it's that you don't want to get.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Acting, not making funny voices, right, they're acting and reacting
and the whole bit.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yes, you know, people forget you know that acting is
part half reacting yes you know so.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
And with with voiceover. So much of it is the
imagination because you're here in a microphone and you're filling
it in for whatever you're seeing it as it'll never be.
But it's what creates your side of the performance and
side of the thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, it helps to you know, be a little weird. Yes,
you know, it just does.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yes, you know absolutely, you have to be able to
let the chains off on your imagination. Yeah, that's scary.
Uh first, you know, I think that's that is can
be scary. Can just like you're launching, you're just you're
following along. You're not you're not dictating to it.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
See Charles Manson said that the same way that when
I let my imagination go, it's scary. And I assume
you have a different take on that.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yes, okay, you end up saying things that maybe some
people don't find fun. I mean, I mean it's just
you just go anywhere, you can go anywhere, and it
opens you up to people going, you're weird. I think
that's the fear. Yeah, that's the scary party. That's a
little too well.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I think I think this topic is really interesting because
one of my friends put this, like I really agree
with it, and he was like, child actors are all
good actors because they have no ego, you know, like
you can tell them what to do. They'll all take
direction for the most part. Like you don't really find
bad child actors, you know, and like just to piggyback
on what you're saying, you know, the fear of being

(30:52):
weird and everything. I think that's something that gets put
on us as we get older and then we find that,
you know, hard to get back to. You. You hear
so many actors artists talking about like getting back to
being a child, you know, like in that playroom. That's
a hard place to get to when it's weird because
we all went through that, right, and then we developed
this ego and it kind of gets in the way

(31:13):
and then it's like, oh, I'm overthinking everything, and yeah,
have you had moments in your career or yourself, Jim
where you've kind of gotten in your own way?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, that's overthinking it is really overthinking it, you know.
I jokingly say instincts are the best stinks. And you know,
and if you if it works for you inside your head,
it'll probably work out out in the world, you know,
by and large, I think.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I have an example where it did not work, okay,
King Candy, Oh, yes, there's a point in the in
the film and and Disney the one. Rich Moore was
directing that film, and he did a lot of improv.
He we would sort of get the things and then
he would leave a lot of time for improv and

(32:03):
or I guess within the sort of little scene I
could just play around at a certain point. And it
was where record Ralph first shows up in Candy whatever
My Candy and plays Candy. I was gonna say, Candy push,
you couldn't have been that, But yeah, King Candy's wild
ross to race something we said in there, and he

(32:24):
comes out of this taffy and he looks like a monster.
And Sarah Silverman's character not vanellape Mutton fat anyway, von Sweetz.
She's running from him. He starts tossing all of the
all the fans of the spectators, He's just throwing them around,
and everybody's running and I said, please everybody stop, come up,

(32:46):
everybody calm down. I don't want to race. Ride on
my hands because it's a race and you're rioting. Never mind, Yeah,
did not more, God blessed us. I love the race
right joke. I thought Disney didn't want a race riot joke.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Believe are you sure this was Disney they didn't want
a race riot joke? I can't think of anything funnier.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
They played it for one showing in Arizona before it
came out, and it got crickets. It was like the
Arab was sucked out of the theater when it happened.
So that's less less of a good idea yea, to
just make everyone feel afraid.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
So how about let's do this not a lot or something.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, not at all. We're taking it out and
do the lines that are written. Please.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Are you a notorious a liver? Because I am. I
just think it's.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
A great thing. Yeah, I can, but I always wait
for permission, and I think that's a miss. Sometimes it's
a mistake.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well you know what I do, Not that I know anything,
but I give him as written, yes, and then because
you're going to do another take anyway, and then then
I do it as.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
It should be. I think that's that's that way.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
They can't complain.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well you got yours.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, now now here's the good one. You know you know,
so that's that's cool.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Right, I'll do a little. It's you know, everybody's different,
every director is different. And yeah, I find that when
I am a given permission or feel that I can,
those lines that I do improv are the ones that
end up in the final project. That there's those are

(34:39):
their choices, you know, because up to them, they choose them,
and then there they tend to a lot of times
to be the things that I get repeated back to
me by fans. Uh huh. When if you're at a
convention and they say, could you put this on on
my picture? Then that feels.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Who do people which one of your characters? Do people
come up the most for a conventions? I'm curious to.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Know, I goes say, surprisingly, because we only made fourteen
episodes of fire Firefly in two thousand and three, four
that's still a cool show. Yeah. I did Star Wars.
I get you know K two s O. Hey, hey,

(35:18):
kids really like that bird? Oh yeah me too? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, I mean, come on, good looking cuss too. Boy,
there's a good looking little guy.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, there's a in making. Hey hey he was a
cocky rooster. He was very he was protective. I get it.
Cockyster and what he did there, Yeah, they were they
made that was that was how they That was the
character they gave him, and it wasn't working. It wasn't working.
It wasn't working, and they wanted the animes really like
the character, wanted to save it. And they said, what

(35:52):
if he's really stupid, and they said he's There was
a there's like a a bar that has intelligence that
you can just ranked down and they cranked it all
the way down and his eyes got bigger. One went
that way, one went that way, and they and then uh,
I don't know if it was Lassiter, it was Lassiter

(36:14):
at that time. Yeah. They came in and said, now
that's a character I want to see. Mm hmm. And
he was saved. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
He was saved.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, well that's an animator's character. Like they're they're the ones.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Who really what comes in an audition for a character
like that. What they just said, play a chicken. That
was giving your imagination and play a chicken.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, I mean that's what they were given. They gave
it to me because they were they had they've hemmed
themselves in now where they're like not a given out
on a roll but this is there's no I can't
play any of the Islander people. So they're like, what
who are you going to give him? What about the chicken? Yeah,
the chicken can be from Texas, that's true.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Sure, why not?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
And so that's how I got it. Well, he's memorable.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, good, he's very memorable, very much.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
So he should he should have had his own song.
I still believe he should. And then we did it
too again not a song. They don't fresh out of songs. Yeah,
he can just start it out, start out the song,
a big swell of music. Yeah, and then somebody grabs
him by the yeah throat and that's.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
It and then that's yeah, two, three four, Then you're
then you're in. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
That would see they just but lost opportunity. Yeah, I
guess I'll have to make.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
A three wake that's right.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah. See they're making a live action I am not doing.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh I love it. And it's of course it's c G.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I I think they do have somebody.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Because they they actually I mean, do they have people.
I guess for Moana they could. They might as well
use an actual human.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I don't know. They can't. They don't have to, I
hope it's not. I think it is going to be
an animated bird, but it is a it is a
female who's doing it. I do all of Disney animation.
This is a Disney live action. I don't cross that line,
except I did once, But to play a.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Bird, I don't either, but not by choice.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
They do. They like to compartmentalize.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, but it's a good compartment I'm
enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I mean it's a neat yeah, a neat thing.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
No complaints over here.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, And you're still doing your live action thing with
Resident Alien. New season coming out.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's coming out soon. This and June m Yeah,
season four. We've done four seasons in six and a
half seven years because it's been it happened like during COVID.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
COVID happened with the strike, and so it's everything goes
messed up.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, kicked around, kicked down the road, I should.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Say, yeah, yeah, between COVID and the strike.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, and then the cratering also of broadcast television has
been also our companion. Yeah, but Netflix started showing it and.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, so it seems like a fun show. It seems
like a good time.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
It is I think a show that I will be
looking back on, like, I cannot believe we got away.
I could. I could because he's an alien. He can
do anything. We were doing this thing where I don't think.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
There.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
We were doing a thing this season where so there
was another character. There's another character, and she's exhibiting signs
of possible she's been taken over by an alien and
I hate that. Yeah, you know it does happen again. Yeah, right,

(39:53):
always when you least expect it. And I say, wait
a second, are you are you an alien? Hold on?
And uh? In the script, I said, are you an alien? No,
I can tell you're not. There's some quick thing where
I decided she wasn't. And I said, this is seems
very fast. What if I just can I just check her?

(40:14):
Let me just can I just check you real quick?
And so I was like, are you only?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
And hold on?

Speaker 2 (40:18):
And I stuck my finger up her nose and I
looked in her eye. Oh, and then I sound no, no, oh,
that's residual. That's residual, pulled on her ears. Oh you're fine. Oh,
like I could do it. That's uh, there's a lot
of freedom there, Yeah, that's for sure. It kind of crossed.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
She was probably tickled pink too. She oh yeah, thanks
more nostril more not.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
As an actor, there's definitely a lot to play with there. Yes,
as a scene partner, your scene partner comes and sticks
his finger up your.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Notes, what and give up show biz?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yeah, so it is, it is a lot of it is.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
That's why you get the big bucks.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, the big yep, those big you.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Take those leaps of faith, Yes, and that would that
would be one they they get.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I was like the hundred. The creator says, he like,
tells this story the creator that sounds so weird. The
creator of the show in the beginning, Yeah, there was
Christopher Shearon and he wrote this show Resident Alien, and
they had auditioned one hundred and forty four people to

(41:32):
play the role whoa and I was one hundred and
forty five, And they're like, and then Alan walked in
and we said that's it. We don't know what we're
looking for until Alan walked in and we said that's it.
What he's doing is what it is. And as an
actor my thought was, the hell was I one hundred
and forty five? What the hell? Man? I feel like
this is pretty much obvious. I should have been like,
yeah in the first fifty.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Come, I wasn't. Yeah, we could have done this right
out of the game.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Could have been done already, Man, this could have And yeah,
I think I think the casting director I had upset
her years before with one of my bold choices you
were praising earlier. She had asked me not to do
a bold choice. Oh, and I thought, but it's not

(42:19):
funny unless it's bold.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And so I did a very bold choice and which
required which required me to jump stealthily backwards into a wall.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Oh. Sure, very stealthy.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
There are two people in the room. There's the cash
director of the director. She was mortified. The director was
like what is he doing? But the person running the
camera and the reader both went and they were trying
to not laugh, which is my favorite laugh. Oh that's
good because they're they're using every muscle to stop laughing,

(42:57):
but they still are making noise. Yeah. I felt like
I had succeeded. That's right, But she stopped calling Your
work was done, Your work and my work was done.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, but unfortunately done done, done done.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, and I became one hundred and forty five called
in But it worked out. Yeah, I did and you're
here now and I'm here now.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
So see now that talk about your success, there's there's
a path right there for you.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Well, I think I could have done better throughout this
career that I like, I don't know, you just this,
you get you can read a script and go, I
know what they want, especially if you sit in a
before when we went to waiting rooms and you could
look around, you're like, oh, I'm not the right I'm
not the type. I'm doing a totally different take. Well,

(43:49):
leaning into that, Yeah, I'm just gonna do my thing,
and you hope for it. I hope that it turns out.
It's it's turned out enough in my career that I've
been able to survive. Yeah, well yeah, apparently. So.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
I used to like going to casting facilities where they'd
be casting for voiceover and on camera, and you'd walk
in to be like three or four guys dressed like
me or shorts and T shirts and sandals. Then a
bunch of guys who looked like they're you know, third
year of law school and pissed, and you know, yeah,

(44:24):
no there, I know there are no glasses in these lenses,
in these glasses, but I look more intelligent. Yes, see,
I'm a lawyer now, no I'm not.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
So while your waiter that night, yes, yeah, what I was? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Did you have a Did you have that period where
you you know, you you had the acting bug, you
had a job or two, and then you didn't have
you still had the acting bug, but without the job
or two, so you had.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
To get a job. Yeah, And I I had a
I waited tables. I started in Texas, and I went
to an acting school for two years, and this little
school that doesn't exist anymore in East Texas, which was
had a terrible acting teacher, but the technical part of
the theater I really enjoyed. And drinking beer was fun,

(45:17):
and so I did that a lot. I've heard of that.
So I grew up a little bit, and I learned
a lot about how theater works and how to put
on a show. And then I went to Dallas, back
where I was from, and I did like.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
A couple of little plays and.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I was in an improv troop, which taught me a lot.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Big theater presence in Dallas, yes, yes, there's a the
Dallas Theater Center is the big theater.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
And I noticed all the big actors that they had
coming to play. The large roles were from New York
City or Los Angeles, California. But you could be big
in Dallas and you'd really have to make it big
to really get one of those roles. Yeah, so yeah,
I thought I need to go to all Right. I
got a roll. I got a role in a play

(46:07):
that was written by these two Yale God bless them.
I don't know what they're doing, these two women. It
was written by them and they was being co directed
by them. And I got a roll and they said,
here's a monologue you're going to do. It was like
little vignettes. It was about age. It was to help.
I don't know if we were making money, we were
raising money for aise, but it was that was the
main through line of all the different scenes within the play.

(46:31):
And mine, mine was a page of rap. Well it
was a they're like rap it like you're a rapper,
and it was very profand I was like, she likes
my bleep, I give her my beep. We do the bleep.
I want to sleep, And it was they have me
wrapping it. And I don't know if you've noticed very

(46:53):
wide and I know eminem is very good and he
is also very white. But uh, I don't have that talent. Yeah,
I don't have Well.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
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Speaker 2 (47:38):
So I got done with the rehearsal and they said
that was amazing. You were so good. And I went
home and I said, I need to go back to
school because that was terrible. And I can't I can't
say exactly why. I can't articulate the specifics of the awfulness. Okay.

(47:58):
I asked somebody in my improv troupe, Hey, what's a
good theater school and they said Juilliard's good. I said, okay,
where's that? And I found out it was in New
York and I auditioned and got in. So I'd done
two years of trying to make it in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
That's yeah, good as it gets. It was great for
voiceover because it taught me. They took my jewelliard. There
were more voice classes than acting classes. Oh, which in
your time, I wouldn't have counted the hours and went,
wait a minute, there's not enough acting here getting short,
I'm doing more voice classes, and I'm annoyed by it

(48:37):
because it's a shape. They want to teach you to
do classical theater, and so you do everything like Patrick Stewart. Yes,
the guest directors going to go why does everybody have
an English accent? Like this isn't an English accent, this
is mid Atlantic speech. And it's just weird that.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Nineteen forties Tarzan you speak?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, but dozan? Where are you going?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
You know where's she from?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
She's as an African? I am going over here? Yes,
what are you doing here? He was a child, he
was lost. There's a whole story to it. But it
was weird that he was the king at the jungle.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, I always thought.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Think seems strange in retrospect. Yes, but yeah, they taught
me a lot about like they took away my Texas accent,
which I had at the time. It was probably just
a little bit like that.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, and yeah, because you're just you're straight away. I
mean there's no accent.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
That's when I get on the.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Phone with my parents or anybody from Texas, it's you.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Know, oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure of that now. In
the West Texas town of El Paso, I was born, Uh.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Wow, el Paso, right. I spent a very memorable year
there through my roots are.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I did too, but it was just over a weekend.
Oh really, yeah, but it felt like a year.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
What did you go to a con there?

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I think so. I think that was me.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I wonder if we were. I was at a con
in here. Somebody tried to kill the Green Power Ranger.
Somebody was tweeting about it. I'm coming down there to
kill the Power Ranger and I got guns and I'm
going to do it. And then it kind of came
around like the guests they're.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Like, did y'all hear that? There's somebody?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
And he got in and because he was not very smart,
and I guess was it was a cry for help
because he was giving his location at all times. Uh,
huh uh yeah almost and he had several weapons on him. Whoa,
that was scary. Dang that was my last experience with
al Paso.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Hmm. Well, Kinky Friedman had a song oh really yeah
called the Asshole from al Paso and I thought, well,
here we go. Yeah it was about him, Yeah, it
could have been about him.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
And I like Kinky Friedman because his guitar was fashioned.
He adapted it the guitar neck onto a toilet seat.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
So it was just well no, just just the seat,
not not the basin the pot, but the ring, the ring, Yes,
like from the Men's are here here this This had
make a great guitar. Now let's get one from best Buy.

(51:40):
Well these are used, you know, you don't want to
come on kicking? Come on? Yeah, how'd we get on that?
Right to the toilet?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
What kind of music do you listen to? More or less?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
And I like Afro Cuban jazz. I like R and
B really really like R and B. Yeah, a lot
of jazz stuff like that, not a hell of a
lot of classical, not too much pop music anymore. Pop
music is I don't even know what's going on out
there now.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Switch, that's all I know, and people with names that
I don't know. One names, a lot of one namers.
There weren't a ton of one namers. I was coming
up staying Madonna, Yeah, Madonna, Prince Prince and then formerly
known as Prince, but he's Prince.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yeah, he's Prince.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
There was just a few really big, heavy hitters that
got one name, and now most everybody just has one name.
That's a well.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I remember Paul, John, George and Ringo. They had a
name so there, Yeah that was Peter paula married.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I guess they were one name, that's true. They each
shot one name.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
To do their folk.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Chad and Jeremy, Peter and Gordon.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
They don't count all Simon and Garfunkle, they did last names.
I'm a big Paul Simon fan, me too.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Turn Overdrive, dude, where did this go?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Downhill? Boy?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
He's talking about Overdrive? He's old.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Have you done any uh music for Disney? See? Yeah,
I did well. I guess I did one, but it
wasn't very I wasn't good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Well, I was saying a bunch of songs. Yeah, you know,
so that was fun.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I grew up with those books. I remember I had
a Mary Poppin's book and you can listen to it
and then oh yeah, yeah, and you turn a page
or I forgot about those like sing along type of
enjoy enjoy the movie again just through.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, you've done one or two of those. I think
over the.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Years I wanted to do and I pitched it to
John Lassiter when he was there, that King Candy should
do old songs like I used to have.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
A Jerry Lewis Uh Buffalo gals, catch you come out tonight?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
That would be great. Buffalo girls. Can't you come out tonight?
Please come out to night? Oh my god, come out
to like all of you. And he was like what, Like,
I'm sorry, what are you saying? Yeah, I'm telling you
we just got to do a recording. We'll do an
audio release for some some old vaudeville songs. And he

(54:25):
ignored me. And then I caught him again at a
party and I was like, hey, you really, I want
to I want to make another shot at this, just
we should do an audio thing and he said no.
So I don't think he bothered to say no. He
just looked at me, like you're so strange.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, he just looked at me, can you freshen this
up for me?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah? Yeah, God, you're still here.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
He was always very generous to me.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
He was very I credit him with yeah, yeah, yeah,
really well.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
He was so much pres brilliant guy. And he had
a lot and he had a lot of Hawaiian shirts. Yes, yes,
I remember. I used to have a few of them
and we ran into each other a few times and
I like your shirt. I cares all right, and that
was exciting. They said, no, you have to go now,

(55:16):
so I did.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
He was a man. Well he's working a sky dance now, yeah,
sky dance.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I think he's doing fine. Oh yeah, I don't think
we're worried about him.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
No, I'm not worried about him.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Would you like to play a game? We have a
little game on this shot, a voice swap game. Oh no,
it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Bad at this.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
No, you'll be from Fantasy.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Can I Can I tell you a story? Oh no,
I don't know if you're going to like this story.
But I always wondered if you knew this, and I
wondered if you I'm glad I'm here. I thought you
might anyway. When they did Christopher Robin, when you did
Christopher Robb. There was a point where they said you
did Winnie the Pooh oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you

(55:57):
did Tigger yes, ultimately ultimately, ultimately yeah. We both both
knew that word was coming. Or one of the people
that they offered it to because they wanted you just
to do Winnie the Pooh was me.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Really, I didn't know that one ye.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Me And I said, I think Jim Cummings does this roll,
and they said no, we would let we're going to
We're going to someone else. I called Nolan North and
I said, what the hell is this and he said,
I guess it's what they're doing. I don't know why
Jim isn't doing it, but if they've asked you an audition,
I said no. They offered me the role. He said

(56:34):
you should take it, and I said I can't do it,
and I worked, yeah, yeah, I'm throwing Nolan under the
busting the son of a bitch.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
And I would do it. I would try it. And
it was one of those voices. I'm like, it's right here,
right where my voice needs to shift over. I don't
have any access to I don't have a space there.
I can't I can't. I can't do it, and so
I wrote him an I letter and said, thank you
so much. I love this role. Sever since I was

(57:06):
a kid, he was my favorite role and he was
the one I identified with and you know, with your
work and how I just through the years, he has
maintained a special spot in my heart. And because of that,
I can't do it. I would never be able to
do it. Justice and I thank you. And I was
so genuine and loving about the role. They said, well,

(57:29):
now you have to do it.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
No no, no, no, no, no, you guys, you don't understand.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
I can't do it. And they said you have to
come in now improve to us. You can't do it.
So it took about five minutes and they went, oh, yeah,
you can't. Oh jeez, oh thanks. I had to show
up to fail. I was like, here's where I'm let
me show you it's going. I'm getting closer. I'm getting closer,
and then you know where it's supposed to be. I

(57:56):
can't get there. It's right here, and I'm like pointing
in my mouth it's here. I can't do it. I
can't do it, Jesus. So they glad you finally did it. Yeah,
it's that's that's that producery ideas. Those are those producer ideas.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yeah, it was a weird one. We went in and saw.
I took my one daughter into uh for some reason.
We were both free, but they said, would you like
to come in and see the shove? It's about seventy
and so we go and and I won't be bringing
up the fellow's name who was doing Tigger. Yeah, great guy,

(58:34):
great actor, great guy, but he wasn't Tigger.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
No, And did he try to do.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
He came, It came across oddly enough. It had a
Rodney danger Field quality. Hey Tigger, all right, I forget
about it, okay.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
You know. And it was and.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
You know, and my daughter and I know that's so hard.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
That's different. Wish you didn't have to see that. That's
gotta hurt, yeah, and break your heart. Well it was.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It was funky because it was just she and I
and then the producers and director sitting like eight feet
behind us in the room. But the size, you know,
they're sitting there, we're here, here's the screen, and and
and we're going, you know, and I thinking they can't
tell they can't see my face right from behind. And

(59:32):
it was just it was it made you mad enough
to smack your grandma. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
It was that.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
And sure enough, on the way home, the phone rings
and jam it's mouth Foster. How are you very good?
He goes, I'm sorry. I wasn't there, but I know
that you saw the movie and what did you think?
And I would I think it's gonna be great. And

(59:58):
uh and he said, well, I was thinking we could
talk about Tika. Yeah, and I go, let's do that,
shall we. So the good news is that I that
I got to do it. The bad news is they
had already filmed it, and you can tell by the

(01:00:20):
way it was so I was stuck with the rhythm.
I was stuck with the rhythm of it, and it
was really hard. And some of them we fixed, some
of them we were able to fix, and others we
were able to fudge, and it came out great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I thought it was just fine. I'm so glad they
came down finally. Oh yeah, me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Too, me too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Yeah, that was a tough one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
It makes me feel it makes my stomach turn.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah, but I don't think I've ever told that before
on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's that's that's the Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
You know, Yeah, that's the way. That's the way of
the world.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
You know, you mentioned, uh, I robot, so a lot
of people didn't know I did Sonny the Robot and
I Robot. And there's a reason I did that because
they were doing test audiences with the with the movie,
and they score the characters in this kind of test
audience and I've got word back, Alan, You're testing higher

(01:01:19):
than oh Will Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Nice, it's about the slappiest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
And then I was gone. I was done. There was
no publicity and my name was not mentioned. They wanted
to get yeah, and I was like, wait, how do
they nobody's gonna know that I And they're like mm hmmm,
hmmm uh and sad.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
That was such a good performance too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
It was Yeah, I put a lot into it because yeah,
because he had to move like a robot, so I
had to move. It was very I you know, it
was whatever it was at the time, I was very upset.
It took me that that was something I had.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
To I mean that that freaking interview scene with you
and Will Smith. I mean there's that's like that like
hits you in like multiple times. You know, it's like
an emotional scene and it's like giving humanity to a robot,
you know. And I think that scenes like very important
for the whole movie. It's because that's when we as
an audience really feel connected, you know, especially when it's like,
you know, can you paint the mona Lisa? You know?

(01:02:23):
Can you build a chair with your own hands? And
can you It's like still true to this day, you know.
I guess rebrought up again, you know with AI. I
saw that like a meme of it, you know, and
it was like, can you create you know that? What
was that? You know the meme I'm talking about with
the white lady and she's like screaming, you know, and
usually has the reaction with the cat. You know what

(01:02:44):
I'm talking about. You'd know if you saw it anyway.
But yeah, it's funny how that movie stayed relevant for
such a long time, especially now with all these AI
conversations and everything like that. You know, it's kind of
just getting rehashed again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
It's a tricky thing, you know, like the voice over
and the animation. I'm being I'm being and I don't
anticipate even being nominated. But so when you we were
talking about awards, earlier. When you get nominated for to
get nominated for, let's say, an Emmy, the production has
to put you forward for nomination. You're talking so uh

(01:03:23):
and or where K two s O is? And they said,
do you mind if we put you up for voiceover
for an Emmy? And I was like, no, go for it.
That sounds great. I'll take an emotion captured it. Mm hmm.
It's cheating kind of not to call youself.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
What do you mean because amated?

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Is that what you It is animated because they erased
me and they animated. But I was in the room,
I'm at the wheel, I'm with the actor back and forth.
I my voice is completely attached to the world that
everyone is seeing. I guess in that way, you could

(01:04:09):
also say it's a hindrance because my imagination gives me
a lot that never be They can't budget every realized. Yeah,
my imagination has a much larger budget than But it
is interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Not everyone could say that, by the way, or should.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
You know, Yeah, well the way the world is now
anyway the business, but that, yeah, voiceover is a it's
a it's a tricky thing in motion capture. I know
that Andy serkis believes that he had a whole campaign
that he believed that he should have been up, he
could have been considered for an Oscar for performance in

(01:04:49):
the movies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, I'm especially. I mean you look at him, and
you look.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Jesus, I'm Andy's I've you know, Andy's the godfather of it.
But I disagree, and I've had arguments with with the
FX guys, like I shouldn't be put up for anything.
I was got Actually I robot. They let me talk
to the the foreign press, so the Golden Globes people.

(01:05:22):
They did bring me to that, but it was just
like a conversation. And it's like all these people that
are older with a lot of jewelry and clothing that
looks like it could be also used for couches, like
very heavy knits and weaves, hats and and they're all European.

(01:05:42):
And they said, do you think if you were nominated
for Oscar, you should be for this role of Sonny?
And I said no, And that was the wrong answer. Yeah,
they said, well, you know, I said no because they
changed they changed my performance here and there. I've noticed it.

(01:06:04):
I've seen I said, here's how it should be done. Yes,
I'll say yes, but you should watch it with me
in my little green suit. And if you see my
performance in a little green suit and you like that,
then that's the that's what you should give me the
award for because I've seen it with me in the
green suit, and it's different from the robot. It's more
because you can't it's interesting, especially you couldn't animate. There

(01:06:28):
were like moments where he was saying, I'm going to die?
Will I dream?

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Will it be over?

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
And it was confusion and hope and love and fear
and as humans were, we give off all these little
minute things like monkeys. Yeah, and you see yeah, micro
expressions and our faces flush and things that then we
perceive as other humans that you can't animate. You can't

(01:06:58):
put that into the lassy face that I was anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah, No, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Well, it was a great collaborative effort.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
I loved.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I loved getting to live in Vancouver for six months.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Yeah, good old Vancouver.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
That's our favorite place. Really, yeah, I lived there. That's
where we do is an alien.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Oh you'd film it up there? Yeah there now VFS
at VFS oh Bridge. Were it like someplace you're in Delta?
You're filming in Delta way down south? Yes, yeah, yeah,
that's where they shoot a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
I enjoy it. We had a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Sorry, I guess me excited. I love the film industry
up there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
It's also a tight it's very cool. We live there
six months out of the year. Now the show I
think possibly maybe finishing here and we have a place
up there, and it's like, well, what do we do.
We have to we're not leaving, so we're going to
be going in a couple of weeks. Because we did
the winter, we have earned the summer.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Oh yeah, really, that's what I always say. Vancouver is
such a great place in the summer. Yeah, the winter
is not so fun and it doesn't really snow, but
it's just not fun.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
It's dark and cold and rainy and the days are
very short. Yeah, that's the thing. They when you wake up,
especially if you're on a set and you go to
work in the dark and then gets dark again around.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Isn't that the most depressing feeling wake up in sound
stage the whole day pitch black artificial lights, you know,
like this, there's no windows in here, but yeah, and
then you go outside and it's like, oh, it's dark
again with like they have the orange street light. It
feels so old fashioned up there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
It's like one of those little uh yeah, those little
lights a little like vitamin D Vitamin D lights.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Yeah, oh right, right, right right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Keep it, buy the coffee maker in the morning, turn
on the coffee turn on your light.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
They have vitamin D pills at Crafty. Yeah, they have
vitamin D pills at Crafty because everybody is like, oh,
we need sun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Oh geez.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
It does its interesting, But it's like I swear, it's
there's no better place in the summer. It's like smells
like pine and you can see for miles so clear,
and it is a beautiful place being. Have you been
on like a boat out on the water there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Yeah, you can rent a boat and just give them
your driver's license. Yeah yeah, take it out. It's okay,
bring it back. You know you can drive it right, Yeah, yeah, sure, okay, sure,
that's that's the agreement.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
I'm a pilot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I have a wow. Yeah, it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
I want to go now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yeah it is. It is beautiful. Go go everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
I think I've been there couple of times, but yeah,
for sure I've been there with you. Yeah we yeah,
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Canadians aren't coming here anymore, but you can go there
and see another way to live, another way, a little
more brotherly love. That's right. Although it was explained to me, uh,
you know, Canadians are very nice and people think of
them as like, you know, sorry and sorry sorry. But
if you bump into a Canadian and you don't say sorry,

(01:10:27):
then they'll say, excuse me, I'm sorry, but you bumped
into me and you didn't say I'm sorry. All right,
everything going, okay? Everything, don't mess with the Canadian.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Oh yeah, have some bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Put some bacon on that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Another classic character of yours that we haven't mentioned is
Steve the Pirate from from Dodgeball. Beloved character and that's
I just want to say that was another one, like
I said at the top of the show about you, like,
in my mind, not really being a character actor, because
even though that is such a character, like there's like
a literal twist at the end of the movie and
it's just you being you know, like a normal person

(01:11:11):
and not Stee And I don't think that works at
all if you're not one hundred percent that character and believable,
you know, like it was oh yeah, yeah, such a
great portrayal of that. I think that beat in the
movie doesn't even hit unless you hit that entire character.
So I just wanted to say, you get a great
job and it's very memorable.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Thank you. I got that. I got that role because
of my my ego. I read it. I read the
script and I said, this is funny. If you get
rid of this pirate character, this thing is going to
be an hi t hit. I tell you. And my
agent was like, I'm sorry, you didn't really listen when

(01:11:48):
I told you before you need to focus on the
pirate character. I was like, I don't know, I don't
know if, I don't know, if it works, I don't know.
And I went to the audition and uh uh, there
were all these actors who were very good in the
waiting room who were going in for the pirate. And
I was like, well, if they know something that I don't,

(01:12:08):
I better actually try for this thing, because these these
guys are really good. Oh man, think of the names.
I can't think of their names. It was a lot
of good people. And so Pitty you were you were
there too. George Clooney was George Clooney was there if
Marlon Branda was still alive and he was there, Yes,

(01:12:30):
he was the one. I he almost got it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yeah. I went to Butchino I at.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
First, and when he turned it down and then I
got it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
That's what that I knew. I knew there was a connection.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Yeah, this guy, he looks a little like a pirate.
He looks like he's be at see without some screen.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
That's exactly right. A long time, yes, and drank a
lot of salt.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Water and oh, a lot of rum. Fifteen men on
a didn't match chest, so I saw I had I
auditioned for it, and then it was improv that got
me the role because there was an improv audition. The
callback was an improv audition. Oh and uh it was
with Vince Vaughan and he was very nice, and but

(01:13:19):
the characters had to say yarn gar in the right spot,
and like, how are we gonna make money? I remember,
how were we gonna make money to save the gym?
And I said that we would catch whales for oil,
sell the oil. Yeah, I think that got the job.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Well yeah, well oil beef. Okay, never there's an old
joke about pirates and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Well oil be uh hooked?

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yes, okay, don't try that one at home.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Kids. Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
So what what is what is your Do you have
a schedule we should know about? I think I should. Yes,
things are coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
I don't need to, oh, like what I'm doing in
my career.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Anything that or conventions whatever you have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
No, I mean I'm resident Alien is coming out and
that's going to be you know. I got to direct
a couple of episodes. No way, Yeah, directed the first two.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Is that typical? Well I'm acting now, but I really
wanted to be erect.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
I was given the opportunity and it seemed like I
should do it because when else am I going to
get the opportunity to just direct with because you can? Yeah,
and I had done it before on this little thing.
That I did with Nolan North, actually called con Man
about Conventions. We raised a ton of money from fans

(01:14:43):
and made this little film about the cons not a film,
a little It was like a limited series subject, short
subject thing, and I had so much fun writing that
and directing it. I directed it mainly because I was
too afraid to ask directors and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Well, did you did you go to conventions?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
And yeah, I've been, because I've been to so many.
Oh we didn't film, We didn't film at any conventions.
We made some. But Nolan North was the second best
motion capture artist I met. I met Nolan doing a
video game because I got to offer to do motion
capture for a video game and I was like, that's

(01:15:29):
going to be great for comment I would just take
jobs for whatever I could write comment about. And met
Nolan and I was like, I had been thinking this
other actor in England for this character to play the
second best motion capture artist. But Nolan North was doing
the character and he called him Jerry Lansing and he
got everybody's name wrong and so changed his name to

(01:15:50):
Jerry Lancing and hired him to do it. And he
hates Sandy Serkis. That's the defining quality. He hates Sandy
Cirkis because he's the best. So he's like, probably does
his monkeys. Oh god, Smiegel was a gibbon and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Oh my god, yeah he was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
He was the greatest. But so I directed that and
I hadn't directed since, and uh, I don't think it's
a really good idea to direct yourself because you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
But I did it, will do it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Yeah, yeah, that would be weird. I had my wife.
My wife was there and she's a choreographer, and choreographers
have a director's eye, and so she would direct me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
I was gonna say it couldn't hurt to have someone
there who is used to telling you you suck, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Exactly, and knows, yeah, knows what I want. She knows.
She knows what I like and what I don't like.
I think more or less, and yeah, God bless her.
She's also a martyr about shots. Like I cared about
the comedy. When it came to the comedy, I had
lots of ideas like how it needed be done it no, no, no,

(01:17:01):
that isn't funny, but this is funny. I was happy
that I had those ideas. She would be like, we
need a crane for this shot. We do. Oh good,
let's talk about that. So all of the pre production
she was very instrumental. That's awesome, nice cool, And that's
con Man' oh no, that was that's resonating. But con

(01:17:23):
Man was the other one. Yeah, comment, don't watch it,
don't watch it. It didn't age well, it doesn't. It
doesn't work today. You know that I was a first
time writer, and you know, everybody likes to do some
edgy mm hmm, and it's it turns out you have
to be really good at edgy to pull it off.
And some of the stuff, even though my heart was
in the right place, Like, I did a thing about

(01:17:45):
voiceover artists because I had I had been asked early
in my voiceover career to do I played a Korean character.
I played a black character. I played a Hispanic character.
I played a super gay, like over the top you
know gay character that I found. I'm like doing it, Like,

(01:18:08):
isn't this offensive? This is offensive? I mean, if you're gay,
this would be.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
So the character the voice of Repster, which I think
is probably one of the best ones. I end up
going to a panel as a voiceover actor. I had
done work on something called I Forget, but I played
only minority characters and I end up on a panel

(01:18:35):
that's about Uh, it's all about inclusiveness and inclusive inclusiveness,
so that that where people get to actually do their
own you know, they aren't they aren't being asked to
do caricatures. They're doing you know, true inspirational roles. They're
playing kings and things like that. Black artists are playing
kings and stuff. And I'm I'm there playing Rigmarole, who

(01:18:59):
was an awful pimprimaroo. Yeah, he talked, oh ship and
it was a character I had done on an MTV.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Is it hard out there for a pimp?

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Well, for Rigmarole it was.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
But that's what I hear. It's hard out here for
a pimp. That's what I've heard.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Yeah, so I but don't don't. So Like my heart
was in the right place because I was pointing out, hey,
this is bad that people are representing you know, that
we're doing these caricatures, and I was doing it in
a way, but it also to do it, you have
to then do all those characters and some people might
find them offensive. I did a character about it doesn't matter.

(01:19:40):
Like as far as gender and gay or straight, it
doesn't matter what you are. Love is the most important part.
But to do that, I had somebody who was pretending
to be trans to get laid. That's not a good idea.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Pretending to be trans to get laid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
By Leslie Jordan, who was also playing a straight guy
who was pretended to be gay. Because it brings in
the cougars, because they they because they they they lie
to themselves. He says, like cougars, they lie to themselves.
They say that homosexuality is a choice, and they know
it's a deep, dark lie, and so they've got this

(01:20:22):
hollow in their heart. And and you know what, I
fill up that hole with my big old dick. Tell
them you're right. Homosexuality is a choice, and I now
choose you. And they give themselves over to me one
hundred percent because it backs up their warped worldview. I
saved their lives. They let me do butt stuff whatever

(01:20:44):
I want. But don't watch it. But don't watch it,
I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
God.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
So I was trying to tell this story, trying to
tell the story with Edgy anyway, what I'm saying is
it was a good time. Nolan North is fantastic in it.
The voice of episode is is my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Yeah, oh that's amazing. We probably won't be making any
more of them, no no sequels.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Maybe maybe one day I could make them for YouTube,
since YouTube's the most stream service out there of all
the streaming services. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Do you have a big presence on social media?

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
I can't. I can't. I don't know how to work it. Yeah,
and I haven't had anybody teach me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Yeah, it takes the team. Takes a team.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Yeah, and evidently if you know it, it's easy. I
just don't. You got to let people into your life
a lot, and yeah, I never know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Yeah, how much like our buddy Nathan, you know, some
people just have it to a science. Yeah really, and
I'm not one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Yeah, but yeah, I could go on and do songs,
vaudeville songs as King Candy and that could I could
probably get some clicks from that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
But the whole idea of content just pisses me off.
I'm somebody who does not like that word. Contents is
like the only other time you hear is like the
contents like on detective shows, like what are the contents
of his stomach? Well, his last meal was it's not art,
it's art, it's stories.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
It's I'm that yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a story guy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
That's what it's about. Art. Art saves the world.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Well, that's I think somewhere woven into the fabric of Disney.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Is that thread that you just it all?

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
You know, it all started out with the mouse and
and I think that was his number one thing he
said first. You know, it could be outer space, it
could be Cowboys, it could be you know, ancient rome
it's the story, the story, the story, and that then
from there, you know, the rest is actually kind of details.

(01:23:06):
You know, Romeo and Juliet was a story. You know,
look at Shakespeare he was apparently good at it. Yeah,
he was able to pull off a few stories.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
And isn't there a trope out there that said there
are only seven stories?

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Yeah, there's a bit seven or twelve. Ye, it's different
on that, but it's a hero goes on a journey. Yeah,
that kind you know that they boil it down to
the most basic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
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slash Jim Cummings Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Do it now?

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Well, why don't you describe the voice swap game?

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Ah? I need to urinate okay, and I don't want
to do it in my pants again?

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Okay, just again?

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
So much clean up? Yeah? Yeah, I wore my pan pants,
but I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Shall Okay, let's shall we dive in and get this
over with.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Let's gotta go body.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Oh yeah, okay, let me see. Okay, am I going
to try to do one of your voices?

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Is not gonna work?

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Well, that's okay. Can you explain it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
I'll give you, give you a phrase of dark wing
Ducks say, for instance, and then you say the same
phrase back in one of your characters.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Then you give me one in your character voice and
I'll sing it back.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
I'm not a voice, okay, go on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Okay, how about how about King Louis from Jungle Book?

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
And are you doing King Louis?

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yeah, but not in Jungle Book the original?

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
But I know since since then, you're Yeah, you're Louis Prima.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Yes, yes I am. And uh and so I think
I'll steal a little bit from the song. Well, I'm
the King of the Swingers. Woa the Jungle v I P.
That's it, I'm the King of the Swingers. Woa the
Jungle v I P. In your character, King Candy, I'm

(01:25:18):
the king.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
If this swings, ho the jungle vi I P. Yeah,
he had too many hopes. That was good. That's what
the king says.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
No such thing as too many hopes, that's what. But seriously,
all right now, so now I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Do a character and uh, okay, oh all right, I'm
this is the Duke of Westleton from Frozen. I dance
like a chicken with the face of a monkey.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
I fly. I dance like a chicken with the face
of a monkey.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I fly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Would break drag Tigger into that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
How about how about two fellow pirates? How about Don
Carnage and oh Steve the Pirate.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
All right, that's true, Okay, Don corne You know something,
if I wasn't already me, I would envy you because
you get to meet me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
If I wasn't already me, I would not be you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
I would envy you. I would envy you because you
get to meet me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Oh my gosh, Steve the Pirate is the longest line
he's ever had.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Yeah, if he were not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
You, no, if I were not me, I would envy
you because you get to meet me. I guess that's
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
That's pretty severely bodacious.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Okay, uh, oil boy must have many others. Hey hey, yeah, okay,
here's hey hey falling off the boat Okay, into the
water and then he comes up. Yeah, how do you

(01:27:19):
do that in anybody else?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
And anybody else? I don't know, how about maybe Taz?

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
I was gonna say, Taz doesn't really speak.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
It was just it was weird. It was like we
were in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
It makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Thanks for being here, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
It's beautiful. Did we ask if there's anything upcoming?

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
We should? Ye?

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
Yeah, just uh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
There you go, and yeah that's it, be there, be there.
You're gonna chill some after that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Yeah, all right, well, thanks you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Wow, thank you absolutely thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Thank you guys all for watching. I hope you enjoyed
that episode. This was another episode of Tuned In with
Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris Jim Cummings. Alan Tudic, thank
you so much for being here today. Really appreciate it.
If you guys like this content, be sure to like
and subscribe. Really helps us out, helps you out find
more videos like this. You can find bonus content on Patreon.
You can find merchandise on Shopify. Jim Cummings closet, all

(01:28:28):
that good stuff. We will see you in the next one.
Thanks again, Alan for joining us. I'm producer Chris Jim Cummings.
We will see you in the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Cheers the end.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Why just that easy?

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I'm gonna run and pee.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Yes play, I'll wait out here. It is made for
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