Josh Keaton (Spider-Man, Transformers, Pokemon)

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Speaker 1 (00:38):
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with
Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris the Legend himself, Jim Cummings.
How are you doing today, sir?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hello, Hello one and all? All is well? Everything is
great here in paradise. And how about that Kensington Tollman?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, that was a great episode.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
We fie? Did you guys? Are that show of hands? Okay? Good,
good good? I all enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm not gonna lie. I kind of came in with
some preconceived notions, you know, like she's the youngest person
that's ever been on the podcast, you know, and like
she already has a phenomenal career, which is.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I know, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
And what a doll. She really blew me away with
like how well spoken she was. And she has her
own podcast, you know, for mental health awareness for teenagers.
I mean that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, tune in please.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I haven't said how how do you have enough time
in the day to do all this stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, I really hate people like her, No, just kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, if you missed that one last week, it's really
worth checking out. I'm not even yeah, you know, please,
it really is. It was a fun discussion and we
wish her all the best. But coming up today, another
another actor who started as a child.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
That is true. That is true.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Crazy that he said he's been in SAG for what
forty years? Oh yeah, and he's like forty six years old.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
And he's thirty five, So how about that? Yeah, and
it's true. Who else who could we possibly be talking about?
Peter Parker? No, Josh Keaton? How about that?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Josh Keaton Spider Man himself, And if you're lucky he'll
do a little web sculpture for you.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
But stay tuned and stay sticky and watch that one.
You're gonna love it. He's a hell of a guy.
I've known a for a long time. Yeah, he and
I And I'll give you a little trivia question. What
is the scariest, most ridiculous gig that I've ever had?
And it was not a cartoon, but it did involve

(02:30):
Josh Keaton.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Leave a comment, Leave a comment if you know the answer.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, how about that? Yeah, throwing you for a loop.

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Speaker 3 (04:19):
With all that said, we hope you enjoyed today's episode
with Josh Keaton. We will see you in the next one.
Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with
Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris, joined as always by the
legendary Jim Cummings.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
How's it going, folks, and.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Today we have another special guest for you, Josh Keaton.
You know him from The Spider Man, you know him
from many many other things. Thank you for joining us,
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
It's great to see this.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Always welcome.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Welcome brethren, Chrises.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
All right, very cool man, It's good to see you
you too, Always good to see you. Back many moons ago,
we had the same agent.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yes, that's true, right, I remember seeing it in the
DPN in the office from Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
And I have to tell you one of the coolest
things is I was getting ready, I'm pulling up, you know,
getting ready to go in, do some auditioning, do some
contract signing, whatever, and up comes this Volkswagen and it
was a spider mobile. Oh no, wait, this was a
Mini Yeah, the Mini Cooper, Mini Cooper. Yes, Mini Cooper

(05:24):
even better and and I and I said, who the hell?
And Josh gets out that's right, uh huh. And then
he threw up shot a web up into a tree
and swung into the building right over my.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Head, right inside. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
And I had to go up there and I mean,
you you spent some money.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh, I mean I had whip on the on my
license plate and yeah, yeah it was cool. Yeah, it
was really cool.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
What was the interior like?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Uh, the interior was was pretty stock web. I'm a
car guy. I'm a car guy, so I like modifying cars.
I'll never buy another Mini again because, unfortunately, even though
it was really fun to drive, from a reliability standpoint,
there awful cars.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh but it was a really fun car to drive.
And it had a nice flat roof. So I got
this cool vinyl wrap of the artwork from Spectacular Spider
Man on there and it looked great.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
It looked amazing. I remember it to this day.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
It was super cool. That was a good time.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
That don't have it anymore?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
No, I mean the end, it blew a head gasket
at like eight thousand miles, oh man, and it has
no oil pressure gauge. So and apparently these engines really
drink oil, so even from the factory, so you don't
really know that anything's wrong with your car until the
light goes on and it's too late to do it
until it's dead. So they they replaced the motor and

(06:42):
then at like sixty thousand miles it happened again. And
by this time I was religiously like putting oil. Yeah, yeah,
you knew, and and it still did it. So I
was just like I said, haul it out here. I
don't want this car anymore.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
So you couldn't expose it to radiation to renive it. No,
I mean if I give it you know a little
uh yeah, a little past, yeah, I could have cling
clung to the road, clung cling, yeah, clung, yeah, yeah, clung, yes, yes, definitely. Yeah,
you may call in and let us know. That's right,

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because this is live at the time we're doing it,
it's live. But yeah, I mean, but boy, what a
legacy I mean for to be involved in something like that,
you know that I get.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
To this day. Yeah, like that's so much of my
like when I see people at conventions, so much of
of the people, so many of the people coming up
to me or are coming up to me for spectacular
Spider Man. Absolutely, and that was my favorite superhero since
I could read. Like that was the first comic book
I ever picked up. It's probably been the only one
I've ever really consistently read, even into my adulthood, and

(07:51):
it's it was a dream come true to get to
play that part, and it gets to play it on
on a show that I mean, everybody that worked on
that show was bringing their a game. Everybody loved Spider
Man so and it was evident. I mean it was
evident in the art style, it was evident in the
writing and the quips, and it was evident and in

(08:12):
the fact, like the thing that I loved about that
show was a Spider Man fan. Is the bigger a
fan you were, the more there was for you in
that show. That's a good way to be. They write
about that. They would absolutely take iconic covers from the
comics and work it into the show, so like you
could freeze frame it at a certain point and be
like that's it. That's like, yeah, you know, you'd know

(08:35):
exactly where that came from. It was really cool. And
Greg Weisman was also very proud of the fact that
if anybody ever spoke on the show, if they had
a line, they had to have appeared in the comics
at some point, even if it was like a one
line janitor. Oh okay, they had a line. Yeah, yeah,
there was a comic tie back to them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Now I'm so interested in this because I've heard this
talked about before, you know, even like the Marvel Cinematic
Universe and everything. Do they have a role where it's
like you're the comics specialist, because can they really expect
everybody to read like sixty years of comics? I mean,
you know, so you have to have somebody else. They
kind of.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Did, and I think they I think I'm pretty sure
they actually had somebody that did the research. But I
mean Greg would do a lot of it himself.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh so yeah, well he was a true nerd absolutely, yeah,
in the best sense, in the best sense.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah. That always fascinates me. With like all the little
Easter eggs and everything, I'm like, there's no way a
crew of like ten thousand people we're all like, oh yeah,
we know every single character the comics, we all read them,
you know, just all happens to beyond this project.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I mean maybe he was going to put in a
Janitor and then searched everything for when when was there
a Janitor and Spider Man or whatever?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fascinating that.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I remember being pissed off sort of kind of at
the last Spider Man movie where the three who played
the on camera in the in the film Spider Man.
I was thinking that you should have been in there,
just as like a cameo.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I would have loved that. I mean, they come on
in across the Spider to be Spider Man and that
as spectacular and honestly, I think the fans are what
brought me into that show or into that movie. Because
that movie came out in June of last year. They
didn't call me into record until March, like I wasn't
even a part of it. And I remember two weeks

(10:18):
before they called me, they released this poster and it
was basically an upside down miles in front of like
a sea of Spider Man, spider and spectacular Spider Man
was like down at the in the front, but like
in you know, off off to the right and the
Internet went crazy. The Internet went crazy, and Spectacular Spider
Man was trending number one on all the socials the

(10:40):
entire day. It was trending higher than Spider Verse, and
that was what the thing was supposed to be promoting.
And everybody was taking this confirmation that I was going
to be in it, and I was like, no, I mean,
they haven't even called me, and they're like, oh, he's
just he's pulling in Andrew Garfield. He totally like, no,
I really have no idea what you're talking about, and
they're like you And it wasn't until like two weeks
later that they called my agent and offered me a role.

(11:02):
And I really feel like they saw that social media potential,
like you know.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
We got to tap into that. Yeah, oh that's that's wonderful. Yeah,
thank you fans.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, no doubt about Spectacular Alive.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah. We keep saying that jokingly about this podcast. We'll
have guests on and then all of a sudden they're
in like a new commercial or something. Yeah, what what
did you call it, Jim? Yeah, the not the tuned
in crease, tuned increase. I love it, get it. It's
a little play on words. Yes, yeah, fingers cross for

(11:37):
that tuned increase.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, that's right. You never know, man.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
That must be so cool though, like being such a
fan of a character and then getting the opportunity, like
when that first came up, like what was your feeling?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Absolutely well, But when by the time Spectacular Spider Man
came out, I was ready. I was ready because I
had already kind of played Spider Man in a couple
of video games, well actually a video game. It was
the two thousand and two tie in for the first
Spider Man Toby Macguireasa two yeah two one, and I
originally played Spider Man in that, but then after I

(12:06):
had finished recording everything, they ended up getting Toby to
be able to do it. So I guess they didn't
want to waste all the audio they had done with me,
so they had me come in and record a couple
of extra little parts so that they could make a
hidden mode of play where if you beat the game,
then you get to play through the game again, as
like Harry in the Goblin Suit that it was really

(12:26):
Spider Man, like all the stuff for Spider Man. Like
I said, they had me come in and record a
couple of extra little things. So it's you know, oh,
this is Harry, but it was Spider Man. And I
wasn't like super crestfallen that they had like replaced me,
because I'm like, it was a Toby movie and you

(12:47):
can't do video games. Weren't then what they are now exactly, Yeah,
And so I was just like you know whatever, you know,
I was. I was thankful that they actually kept me
in the game somehow, So thank you, thanks being Knox.
That was that was, you know, solid. But then when
it came to to do the Spider Man two game,
they just brought me in as Harry. Like by that
point I was the de facto Harry. So then there
was like a game called spiders Transition.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
No, there was a game called Spider Man Friend or Foe,
and I was Harry in that and James Arnold Taylor
was Spider Man in that one. Who was Harry in
our show. So we ended up like doing a little
flip flop. Yeah. But by the time the audition came
around for Spectacular Spider Man, I was like I'm ready
for this, Like I'm gonna do this now, like this
is I went in there just guns blazing and turned
out it turned out well, yeah it did.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
And how many years did that last?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
That?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I mean we got cut short because that was that
was right around the time that Disney was was going
to buy Marvel. So we did a season. It was
like critically acclaimed, it got it was getting great ratings,
and then we were doing season two and while we
were recording season two was when Disney bought Marvel and

(13:54):
they basically never canceled us and never picked us up.
They just never said anything, but they told, you know, oh,
you're going to be headlining our new network, Disney XD.
But then when they put us on Disney XD, the
they showed the episodes out of order. They kept changing
the times that it was going to air. They never
really Didney promotion.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
That was a chunky period, right, Yeah, when they were
that launch was happening, there were things that were they
were kind of truncating shows like, oh, here's three.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Of them, what are we going to do? Yeah, I
remember that was it was. It made it they they
made it hard to get an audience. And also we
went from being on network TV Kids w B to
a show that to a network that really at the
time was only on like Dish Network. If you didn't
have Dish Network, you didn't have Disney obscure, so very obscure,
and so yeah, I mean it the way it all

(14:42):
worked out, because people are always asking me, you know,
could it ever come back? And the thing is is
that Disney now owns the rights to the character of
Spider Man for TV, but Sony still owns the rights
to the show The Spectacular Spider Man. So if Disney
wanted to continue making it, they would have to basically
pace Sony life the show so they could keep making.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
They're crazy, they do that. They can't wait to spend money.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, They're like, we can just make our own show.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
So yeah, that's got to be. They never released it
on Disney Plus either, right, or they briefly did.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Briefly they did right when, right when Across the Spider
Verse was going to come out.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
It makes sense they had it on there.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I think that the reason they even put it
on there is that Netflix put it on there, so
any put it on Netflix, and this show that had
been absent from media for all these years was like
trending number one on Netflix. Yeah, well, like it did
amazing on Netflix. It's not a whole new generation of
kids into the Spactacular Spider Man. And then when that happened,
Disney XD put it on Disney XD still had the

(15:42):
season finale and another thing out of order. They still
never fixed it, and so they had it on there
out of order, and and then once the movie was
out of theaters, it disappeared again.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So yeah, yeah, it's been. It's been Parker luck one
one d yes one thing.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yes, you know I remember because of my age group,
I can remember all of the Fantastic Four, the Avengers,
Captain America, Spider Man. I had the first Spie. The
first Spider Man comic book wasn't a Spider Man comic book.
It was amazing tales.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Amazing fantasy.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
And he's and I can remember, I can see it
right now, he's swinging across the cover, classic Spidery pose
and and it just it gives me goosebumps. And I
always every time I tell the story, I just it
just kind of ruins my day. But I remember, I
was probably in my thirties and I went back home.
I was born in Austown, Ohio, and I went up

(16:44):
into the attic and I go, hey, mom, you know
I had that first Fantastic Four, first Spider Man, first Avenger,
the Captain America. There was and I just went down
the line Iron Man back when he looked like a
tin can.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
And I can't.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I can't find them anywhere. And she goes, oh, don't worry, hon,
I gave it away. I took them down to the
church and and we I think they gave them away.
They gave them to kids and the orphanage or something.
And I'm thinking, well, good, well, you know those kids
in the orphanage are going to go buy their mother's
house because of what you gave away.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
And it was coming and it's still yeah, and she goes, oh,
don't worry, don't worry. Why would I worry. You threw
away a fortune, Oh man, I mean I found an
amazing fantasy named.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, I had an and they were pristine. I didn't abuse,
like somebody roll them up and stick them in their
back pocket, you know, or whatever. No, I kept it.
They were pristine. They were they were in ace condition.
I have to I need a moment now.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I'm back.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, but it's it's just a it's an actually slightly
painful memory, slightly Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, I don't think i'd ever recover from something like that.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, and the fans are watching, they're going on man,
that's definitely.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I think anybody watching. When you started this story about hey,
you just going back home, as soon as you said
going back home, like she threw them away, went rid
of them.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Looking for the box, you know, the one that wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, that one, that one I was looking for, that one,
that one that's painful.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Moment of silence is brutal. Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm back
half in the chat.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, I wanted to you stream, right, you stream?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, you know what I haven't for like a year, Okay,
and I need to get back into it and maybe yeah,
and that's the what I want to play. I want
to play. I'm bad right now because I just started,
but I want to play Iron Man, and I want
to troll people in chat because like he's got this move,
the maximum pulse, where like apparently it gives people PTSD
hearing it, because if you hear it and they get

(18:56):
off that move, you're the whole team is dead. He
just goes maximum pulse. And so I just want to
go into chat and just start randomly like saying maximum
like making people freak out thinking it's going to happen.
It's easy to counter now, like there's some of the
classes that can counter his ultimate move. But still but
if I in chat, they might blow their counter and

(19:20):
then I can actually land.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
All Yeah, I thought you did a great job with
that voice as Iron Man in the game. Yeah, it's
a great game. We had Colleen O'shawnese and yeah, I
had a bunch of voice actors from that show, but
I mean from that game. But since it's you know,
we got to have him back on to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
They got a packed cast.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, they really do, they really do. They went all
out and Uri was playing Spider Man in that.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
One, correct, Yeah, very spider Man in that Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, he gets a lot of stabs at him, doesn't
he probably?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think everybody's having to go at Spider
Man all the time. Yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
And you were pretty active in the Marvel universe.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, they you're thankful to to have been. You're all over. Yeah,
I've been Steve Rogers and what And that one was
scary because America actually Chris Evans voice match and it
was supposed to be like MCU canon. Oh I so
that one was probably the scariest one I've had to do,
because like, he was one of only three people from

(20:16):
the MCU that didn't come back to reprise their roles show.
So I was like, how are what are they going
to think about, like not being Chris?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, and I'm thinking about I'm trying to listen for
it in my head and it's not. And he's He's
one of those voices that I hate having to try
to voice Metro because there's nothing you can really hang
your head on. It's not like he sounds like Jack Nicholson, right,
you know, he sounds like some guy and you're okay,
well that's good.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Those are the hardest ones to match, the hardest one,
the hardest ones to match. Yeah.

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Speaker 2 (21:10):
Do it Now?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Do you get asked to voicematch a lot for certain people.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
So yeah, yeah, back in the day, I used to
voice match uh Jay barukel for for hiccup for the Dragon.
I used to do that one.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh yeah, so that's how you pronounce it.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'm glad to hear that. I think, I hope, yes,
kind of something, Oh yeah, kind of.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It's in it, like he chooses words and it's very
up in the back of the nasal area.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's funny, like a lot a lot of stuff's in there.
I mean, even even the even the Steve Rogers stuff.
I mean with with him, you know, you kind of
got to lower his voice a little bit, but then
he's still kind of putting it out through that that
that mask and uh and he does a little bit
of like a Brooklyn thing, especially where in the part
that I was that I was doing, which was before
he gets the serum.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Okay, when he was from the Bronx or somewhere right
Brooklyn Brooklyn, Brooklyn Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, I knew it was
a B word.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, I mean, Marvel Comics, is it for me? Yeah,
you know, and but for you, you have the distinction of
going from the Marvel universe to the d C universe
and back again. And yeah, I mean because you're like
all over the lantern. You're very Yeah, why it's funny
you mentioned green lantern.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Okay, you ready, I'm ready, and brightest and brightest day
in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let
those who worship evils might beware my power green lantern light.
We did it. Okay, amazing, Good night, everybody. That made

(23:01):
my day. That was another show that got cut short
way too, and that one. That one was because of
the movie. The movie did so poorly that they never
even made a toy line for our show because they
couldn't get the movie toys to even move in the stores.
So when the toy line, the toy companies pitched the
toy line, the stores are like, we have enough green
lantern toys. They're like, no, this is for the show,
not the movie. They're like, no, we're good on green lanterns.

(23:22):
So it never even made a toy line.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
So without that, we were kind of songs that was
the Ryan Reynolds one that.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Was a Ryan Reynolds, but our show had nothing to
do with that, Like it was a it was a
it was a Bruce tim show. And it really look
in fairness, like, I feel like the movie really had
a lot on its plate in terms of what it
had to do. The movie had to basically, let's preface
this by saying that Green Lantern, for most of its

(23:48):
time has been something that like comic book fans will
really know a lot about, like the Normies. It's not
at all Spider Spider Man, It's not like that. So
they had to basic introduced people to the entire world,
make them care about these characters, and then give the conflict.
And they just try to do too much in that movie.
I mean they had Hector Hammond and Parallax and parallaxes

(24:10):
like endgame that's like that's like way like way down
the lap. Yeah yeah, and as the first thing, and
he's beaten super quick, and it's just like you don't
really get a chance to really get the stakes, and
and they didn't really do enough to introduce people into
the fact, oh, these are like like space cops and
this is like that type of stuff. So there was
so much more that they had to do. But how

(24:31):
do you do that in.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Like two hours?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Whereas our show we had you know, twenty six episodes
to do it, So we had a lot more of
a time to roll roll this out and explore all
the different spectrum colors.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I was wondering, did they did they get into the
green lantern universe of the core?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Oh yeah, the different They're like, oh yeah, you know,
you met a lot of other lanterns. You met Guy Gardner,
who was expertly portrayed by d Drich Bader. Ye kill
a wog was Kevin Michael wins O. But you also
saw the red lanterns. You saw, you saw the orange
lanterns or well Larflee's, and then you saw you saw

(25:10):
no yellow lanterns.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Though I can't because they because yellow is his nemesis.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I want to say there was. They did have an
opisode about a yellow ring. It's been a while since
I've since I've gotten Yes, I think the only one
we never we we had blue lanterns. I think the
only one that we ever didn't see what No, there
was a yellow lantern episode. The only one that we
never saw was black and that one was touched upon

(25:37):
in the very last episode. You see him kind of
like looking at these books and you see the Book
of Black right there, So it's kind of like previewed
that that was going to be in there, gone on
more season.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, and they couldn't really do a book of white
because that would just be a flashlight. Sure, it's not
the same. It's just not the same. Oh man, that's
good stuff. Well you good playing superheroes. Oh, thank you.
I mean, there's no doubt about that. But the Human
Torch too.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Really, that was a long time ago. That was like
that in what ultimate a line? I want to Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was like when video when video games were just
starting to have voice acting, and uh that that went
beyond like just grunts and stuff. Where where they beyond grunts.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, that's the name of your autobiography, right, beyond grunts,
Beyond grunts.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
That's actually that's not bad.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's still that's not bad.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Josh, beyond grunts, beyond guns.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
But you guys, you share another commonality. You're both in
bands back.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
In the day.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's true, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
What did you play?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I was in a boy band, so I played myself. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, you did dancing and everything, did dancing and everything.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
And I'm not I wasn't like a dancer growing up.
I was always real self conscious. And the thing about
boy bands is that it's less about how good of
a singer you are art most of the time and
more about like just the performance. So if you're like
a great dancer and like a mediocre singer, you're gonna
have a better chance over somebody who can't dance for
shit and is a great singer.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
And I actually auditioned for this group twice. The first
time I didn't get in because like I wasn't that
great of a singer and I couldn't dance to save
my life. So after that, I ended up being in
a gospel group for like three or four years. But
I was like the only I was like one of
the only like sambourine here, and I mean I'm Latino,

(27:32):
but I I read Caucasian. But yeah, like I I
basically learned how to sing in that group. And that's
where I really learned my love for like R and
B music and soul music and and that's, uh, that's great,
and that's that's what I ended up like gravitating towards.
That's still what I love to this day. But I
remember after that group kind of fell apart, I ended

(27:55):
up auditioning for this group again, and one of the
lead singers I guess had left and got in and
and I ended up becoming one of the lead singers,
much to the chagrin of the now sole lead singer,
who now had to give up half his parts to me.
He never really liked me. It was called No Authority,
and I always hated the name because I know, like

(28:17):
it was it was thought up by one of the
guys in the group, and he was super you know,
he had this this aura of being like, you know,
really rebellious, and he thought it was like nobody has
authority over us and all that, Like this really just
sounds like we have no power, so it sounds like
we have no authority.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Either that or a guy named Noah who's from Italy,
Noah oh Man.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah. So I always hated the name, but I had
a great time in that group. I will say, but
it heads with with the other lead singer a lot.
But I mean we were we were teenagers. We were
we were all trying to figure out who we were
and establish ourselves.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
And it was a terrible way to meet girls.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Right, Yeah, just terrible. Yeah, we're worried about you. It was,
I mean, it was great. I got to see the world. Yeah,
to make some some great music. We worked with this
producer named Rodney Jerkins, who ended up going on to
produce pretty much all of Destiny's Child's hits, Brandy Monica
all of their hits, produced stuff for Michael Jackson. He's

(29:28):
still making music, I mean, and he was nineteen when
he produced our album. So I mean we made we
and our record, Like I've gone back and listened to
it and it's still a great record.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, Like is there anywhere online we can find it?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Uh? Yeah, actually, and there's actually two because I left
the group after the first after the first album because
the manager was was a crook and uh that really yeah,
like I just couldn't work for him anymore.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I've never heard of that in the record industry.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
There are you sucked, man, And the thing, the thing
that really sucked is that like he he basically kind
of like smeared me to the rest of the bandmates,
and I left because my problems were with him, and
he went and told them that I was like high
on my own farts and that thought I was better
than all of them and that I was going to
go solo, and and like he basically turned like like

(30:12):
the one that that was the other lead singer. We
always had kind of we always didn't mess with yea,
so it was very easy to kind of turn him
against me. But there was another one in the group
that was like my buddy in the group, and he
ended up doing a complete one eighty because he bought
the kool aid who drank the kool aid that my
manager was selling and and ended up like talking all
kinds of shit about me to fans and like all

(30:33):
this stuff, and that one kind of that one kind
of hurt because I was like, you were you were
like my boy in the group. And then I'm still
friends with another one in the group, my buddy Danny
so and and the funny, the funny thing is is
that the guy that replaced me in the group, I
like the guy.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
We're friends. That's cool, dude, Yeah, well it's funny.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
The guy you didn't get along with is a hell
of a la here at So it's not.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I can't even it's not far and I can't even,
I can't even go there.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
But he can park the hell out of a car,
I'll tell you that. So that's what you what you
get when you messed with Josh, you got that folks.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
But yeah, I mean it was it was still it
was still a lot of fun. So, yeah, you're asking
if he could find it online. There's two albums. The
one that I'm in has like a red cover. It's
called Keep On and uh yeah there's and you'll see
me like pouting because apparently I got the reputation as
the bad boy in the group, even though I was
the furthest thing from a bad boy, because I was
a freaking boy scout, like literally, but I was always

(31:30):
real self conscious about my smile as a teenager, and
I never wanted a smile in pictures. So because of that,
I was always like serious in pictures, and you're the
brooding bad boy.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah that's funny, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's all the most innocent bad boy ever.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah. So, so you always wanted to be in show
business or entertainment, you.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Know what's funny? No, No, Like, because I grew up
I have three sisters. My older sister was the one
that was like first put into it. My parents got
me into it, and it was just kind of by
the time she was into it, they had spent so
much time with her. I mean I was probably four, Yeah,
she was like maybe even maybe even younger. Yeah, so
but it was just kind of like that's what we

(32:09):
did because she had dance classes, she had singing classes.
At that time, I wanted to do other things, like
we would every time we would drive to her dance classes,
we had to drive over this hill and there's like
a big beautiful baseball diamond off off like the mountain
road that we had to go on, and it was
like field of dreams, Oh wow, and we passed by
it every time. I'm like, I want to play baseball.
I want to play but there was no time for

(32:30):
that because we had dance classes and all. So it's
like if I wanted to do anything, I kind of.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Had to do this. It's like the opposite of step up, right,
and so this is like this.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
What was expected of me. You know you you're going
to do this. And so at the time, like I
didn't really want to do it, but over the time,
like I grew to love it, and then there there
there came a point in my life where I was
like I can't really imagine myself doing anything else, and
and by that time I had grown to really really
love it. And there's still other things that I enjoy

(32:59):
like I also, I loved space. I wanted to be
an astronaut, like I wanted to do all kinds of
other stuff. I'd still love to go to space.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
They're not like they're selling flights these that that's in space.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's that's that's a ride, that's like, that's like going.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
I got shredded on ready because I was like, why
are people hating on Katy Perry so much? Like she
got to go to outer space? And I get all
these comments. Yeah, they're dropping terminology on that. That's all
I know. That's a person in sci fi. I don't
know it's a rich person. I don't know the classifications
of space.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I wanted to fall from there.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I mean, I said, that's like three times higher than
a commercial flight, Like come on.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
But the thing that amazing is that they're like calling
themselves astronauts, and I'm like, dude, you are so spitting
in the face of every actual astronaut that is actually.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Actual astronauts even care though they're.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Like probably not, but I mean all care for them
because that's a lot of schooling whatever inner space or whatever,
that astronomy in the same category as astro Like I
cringed so hard I almost disappeared into my own It was.

(34:08):
It was crazy, man, Like I was like, come on, dude,
this is and I think that so many people were
like united in that sentiment where they really.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Didn't see Yeah, and when.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
They started calling themselves astronauts and yeah, just well have
you ever been to space? I was like, get out
of here.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah, don't go back to not space.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, go back to Shatnerville.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
He was up there, wasn't he.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah he was on the the first one. Yeah, he
was on the first one with Bezos. And he's out there.
This is off topic, but whatever, we're on this. Ye,
he's out there and they just land back, you know,
and they're all in their suits and he's trying to
give this profound statement about what space was like. And
the Bezos comes in with a bottle of champagne, spraying

(34:58):
it with all these hoo cheeser happened. Oh what a moment,
So profound.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Amazing, amazing. It could be risky.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Hey man, though the average person is going to be
terrified to go up that high in an aircraft. I'll
tell you that. That's I've seen people praying in minor turbulence.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
I'd absolutely me too.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I wouldn't parachute back, no, no, no, there might be
a little.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Though, like they didn't even really go high enough to
really escape.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
They were like waitless though, they didn't really I.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Mean you could do that with a flight you see one.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, how they filmed the comet.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, they fly the botic arc right, yeah, still in
the atmosphere. But I mean that capsule didn't even look
like it had any kind of burn marks from re entry.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
So that's what I was curious about. The atmosphere, I.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Don't think, because yeah, that the capsule looked like it.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
How come you didn't catch fire? That's are just supposed
to catch fire.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I mean even caps those those are all they're all charge.
That's right. It is a crazy yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Crazy time we're living in where people are just going
to and from outer space. Elon Musk pretty much has
an intergalactic trucking company, like just sending these rockets up
and downs. Pretty wild, pretty wild.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I wouldn't mind it.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, all right, back onto the topic of you.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Me more me? That's right.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
So you were raised English as in your first language.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
No, actually, my mother's Peruvians from Lima and so we
my dad sometimes would work. He would work two sometimes
three jobs. My mom also worked, so a lot of
times we were with our grandparents. Are I would this
and so. Yeah, So Spanish was pretty much the first
thing I spoke with them. Interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
And then I'm guessing just being you know, around like
your classmates and teachers and everything, there's no accent because
that's how you spoke normally, you know, just in person.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'm guessing yeah, yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Not normally, but like you spoke English around, yeah, well,
because I mean I was.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I always grew up with both My dad's an English teacher. Yeah,
oh yeah, I mean their pronunciation was drilled into my
head from a very very young age, even speaking English
like the first actually it's not the first job I
ever got, but like I remember the Back to the
Future animated series. That was probably like nine when I
got that. And the reason that I got that was
because as a nine year old I was able to

(37:27):
just rattle off and I remember this to this day.
Was I'm computing the logarithmic equivalents of the atomic weights
of certain isotopes found in the Lanthanide series of rare
Earth elements.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I bet you were fine.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Parts.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I was just I was just going to say that.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
And I actually knew what that meant because I was
a big periodic table person when I was nine. Wow,
Like I loved it. I was like, this is so cool,
this is all everything that makes.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Everything that is so good.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah. I was a huge, huge nerd. Oh I'm actually nerd.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
But it's funny how it's like nerdy when you're a kid,
but then it's cool when you're an adult. That's funny
how that stuff works absolutely like bland in a band,
you know, playing in a band. Yeah, I saw it
at least when I was young. I was like, I
don't want to play an instrument, and it's like I
wish I played.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
For an instrument. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's not a tuba
you know.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, I bet there's somebody on social media making a
living doing some tuba thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I actually went to the Roast Parade for the first
time this year, and like usually especially hate parades, and
but my if your sister, well no, I wasn't in it.
I want to say, but my sister lives literally like
maybe six hundred feet from the parade route. Ohez, So
like if you have to go to the bathroom. You
just go to her house. Oh that works. When you've
got a park, you park right in her in her garage.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
So it's great.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like all the things that I hate about, like huge
crowd stuff like no bat no parking. It midigated. So
there was this There was this high school band from
Japan and I want to say it was an all
girls school. Oh wow. They were incredible and they they
made playing a tuba while marching look awesome because they

(39:01):
were like they were like dancing with the two Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
We were like towards the end of the route and
I'm like, they've been doing this for miles and they
still had the same kind of energy. I was like,
I don't know how how they did this. They were
they were incredible.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, well they're a.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Lot lighter nowadays too. They would have had to be.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah they had because I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I've played saxophone and you tube was easily twice that size,
and yeah, it can even imagine marching with that. Yeah yeah.
And it wasn't even the wrap around the suzophone kind
of it was like like a lick a legit tub.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yes, yeah, you had you were lift weightlifting.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, where you're you're holding that bole.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
It was wrapped around you. You were not you know,
it was holding you too. Yeah, yeah I remember those.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Can you hug?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah? I bet that makes it harder to play. You've
got to control your breath way more. And yeah, yeah,
you never even thought about that.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
You're marching, you're dancing, you're doing it in line right,
or you're doing it in sync with everybody else. Yeah,
it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
That's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah. I that gave me a whole new respect for
marching bands, because I mean I've seen marching bands, but
like I was like right in front of them. It's
one thing to see it on TV, and its one
thing to like actually hear the sound of the band
right there, like feet from it.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
With a lot of things in life, with a lot
of things, it's a lot different to experience something in
sports like first hand.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I can't watch sports on TV. Yeah, I can't get
into it. And I think one of the main reasons
is is, like I would love it if in order
to play for a team you had to be from
that city, because then you would actually see like city
versus city. It was super cool New York Miami, right
now it's just mercenaries for rich people. It's like, Okay,
this is this rich guys team. This is this rich

(40:37):
guys team.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Well, the Brooklyn Dodgers, that's what they were from Brooklyn. Yeah,
they were a bunch of guys from Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I feel like if the stakes are higher, when it's
like this hood versus this hood, yeah that would be
really cool. But that being said, when you actually go
to see a game, it's it's a lot of fun.
Like they had this father's son event for my well,
both my kids go to the same school, but for
for they had a father son event and it was
at Angel Stadium, and so I took my son to

(41:06):
see a baseball game. And neither of us really watched
sports or into sports, but it was fun.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, especially baseball, I thinks.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
And we sat and we watched, and you know, he
didn't this is the first time with anything with baseball.
So I was explaining the game to him and saying, okay,
this is this is, uh, you know what happens when
they get three outs and this is what makes it
out and this is when they're pitching. And then when
there's this one there's this one part where like the
ball actually like the pitcher actually hit the battle he

(41:38):
actually hit the batter, and then the batter actually returned
one of the hits and hit the pitcher in the
same place. It was crazy, you know. It was like
it's like instant karma right there. I was like, well,
this is this is why you come to that.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's funny that.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's kind of fun stuff. So that is good.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
tuned In with Tim Cumming, you could support the show

(42:17):
Slash Jim Cummings podcast Do It Now.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Do you guys remember the first time you worked on
a project together? You guys have worked on quite a
few projects, or at least been in the same I
think the.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Thing that we worked on the most together was Splatterhouse.
Oh yeah, because we were both the leads in that game.
He was the mask and I was the vessel for
the mask, the guy that puts on the mask. Yeah,
I talk you know.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I've signed a ton of those at conditions and yeah,
that's still a cult favorite game unbelievable, worked on stuff
before the Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I've kind of
guested on your shows. I've been the Hammerhead or a
couple of Spidy villains over the year. I think I've
got some written downer so more.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
But I know we did.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Oh yeah, well, rush your Hogan.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, crush your hogan. Oh yeah, you were the the
that's exactly right in Yeah, in my favorite episode of Spectacular.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Spider Man and mine too because the black and white
I was in it.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
It was Yes, that's what did it for me.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah, crush your Hogan, all those, all those sort
of like b villains of Yeah, Marvel Universe.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Marvel Superhero Squad, uh, the Finnity Gauntlet, You're Spider Man
and Jim was Thanos super super Yes, I feel like
that's supposed to say super Skull.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Scroll scroll scroll excuse me, scrolls scrulls.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Leave me alone in the comments.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
They're cooking you already, man.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah man, well, yeah, so did you guys record these
together in the booth or it was kind of like
I wanted a seven deal.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
On Spider House not every time, but there were a
couple of sessions where we were together in the Boy,
and then there were some times where we weren't together
but Jim had already recorded and so they would play
me his lead in I would get to actually react.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
That helps. You must have been pretty young. You look
like a young guy to me.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
No, I'm forty six.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Okay, it's pretty young.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Well that's still pretty long, long of.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
A career that you've had.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Well, I mean i've been I've been acting. I've been
in the Union since I was four.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, so I've been.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
That's awesome. Yeah, I've been. I've been in the Union
for more than Yeah. It feels weird to say that.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Man's it's especially in your forty.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah. Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
We've been in the Union the same time, but I'm
like forty years older than you.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
So this is knucking futs.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
It's been crazy. And the thing is is, like I
remember always when when we were still at DPMDPN, Yeah,
there was like I would look I would look to
guys like you as like the living legends. It's like
like you guys were like the old guard. Oh there
you go. And and so I remember going in to
read at the office with you guys and hearing you
guys tell stories and stuff and oh yeah, and I

(45:02):
was like the young guy. Sure, I was like the
young guy. And it's just funny just running into all
my old guard friends who I've still stayed friends with,
like you, Dan, Jiloviazan and all that, and they still
looked at me like the young guy when there's I'm
probably the age that you guys were, well I met
you guys probably, yeah, and it's just yeah, that's about right.
But I don't feel like that time has passed. I

(45:23):
don't feel like I'm that much older.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah, but I am. It's just weird, I know what
you mean. Pop Stars always do that to me. It's
like when you see this new pop star and it's like, oh,
they're like twenty one years old, like you just you
know that meme. There's a saving private Ryan just getting
older in real time.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah. Man, there's weird people them where you feel like
you're never going to grow old and then like you
are and yeah, just crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Well that that's how it went for me. I went
like being into business. I was very very fortunate. I
blessed that I got my first job, and then I
never ever did it, never lagged.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, so I went.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
From working full time in the video store to working
full time in this thing. So I didn't have a
transition period. And I remember thinking, you know that, gosh,
I'm whatever age I was, the late twenties or right
at thirty, thinking I'm the youngest guy out here, and
it's this and it's that. And I went from like

(46:24):
being the youngest guy to being the veteran. And I
couldn't even tell you when it happened. It was like
it was overnight. Well wait are you sure?

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Wait I'm the veteran.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Damn. Okay, all right, well it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
I guess that means I'm still working, so I'll take it. Yeah,
you know, beats beats dying.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Sure does, Sure does. So far, it's wild. The passage
of time is cruel and fascinating and it's uh, it's wild.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah, it fascinating, you get I think fascinating is the
perfect word for you. Yeah, because especially like hearing like
young kids talk shit on like a video game or something,
it's like you're gonna be old one.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Dah you will, like you will?

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah, you better hope you're gonna be old, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, yeah, I promise you you will.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I was one of those young shit talkers too, man,
like I'd be on the video games year old you Die.
I was a kid like you ones playing sports, you know,
and you make fun of somebody for being like twenty three,
it's like you're old. Yeah, here twenty three.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I remember when I was a kid that was the who.
You know, the Who, the Beatles of Stones, the Who
had a song called my Generation People try to put
us down and one of the lines was, hohope I
die before I gain old toe game by my generation.
And I was thinking, I don't know about that part
about dying. Yeah I'm thirty. I think I'll kill myself. No, no, no, no,

(47:47):
I'll wait for thirty one.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
And now it's like, yeah, let me know.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
When you run into a you know, who wants to
be one hundred, a guy who's ninety nine, that's.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Who wants to be absolutely you know. That's the how
about that?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I want to say, My kids keep me young because
like they're constantly reintroducing me to everything that is like
current and fresh and oh yeah, and I get to see,
you know what what kids are like these days. But
then right when I start to get a little bit
more confident, I was like, I was just kind of
like my son was sitting on the couch playing video
games and I just come up and I just start
like mugging in his face, and I was like, Yo,

(48:24):
check this out. And I just started doing the stupid dance,
just some stupid dance. I literally threw my back out. Oh,
I threw my back out. And it wasn't even anything
that was crazy acrobatic or anything like that. It was
like it was stupid.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
It was like it was just like you were dancing.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
And I was literally just like doing this with like
like like a weird look on my face, and and
all of a.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Sudden, I was like and the weird look.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
And it was bad for like two weeks almost doctor,
because I was like, did I really do something bad?
Because it should this be hurting after all the time.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
That's that's the something that would happen to me, Like,
what what is that?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Forties of Well, you know, I'd rather have a ship
ton of birthdays than one funeral.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
That's true, because you only get one one of those.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah, so I'll put that one off with that party.
Make it good, yeah, make it a good one. Yeah okay,
and yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Taxidermy up in the front, and I'll just be like,
you know, to.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
One of my old my old goals was because you know,
every now and I mean, one of our legends dies
and of course, you know, melt Blank or Paul Freeze
or whatever you and then there's a rush to replace
these characters. And one of my goals I can remember
from from day one was, Okay, when I eventually die,
you know, like when I'm a hundred, I want eighteen

(49:52):
people to get a gig because they all go and
can go out and fill one of my one of
my roles, you know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
All the guys who came and said I could.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Now you're number one, assuming you weren't older and are
already dead. So yeah, that's that's my goal. That's what
I'm hoping for. Maybe somebody, maybe someday you'll be Winny
the Pooh, I would love that.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I have to learn. I'd be queath it unto you.
I grew up listening to you. Yeah, oh yeah, that
was a big Winnie the Poof fan. Yeah, you have
like to read along books, the ones that came with
the cassette. Oh yes, yes, well I hope you bought
tons of them. I did.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
I probably mean I still listen to.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Those even, like I mean, honestly, that's probably one of
the reasons I got into voiceover, was just like listening
to so many of those, and I I they were
just a comfort to me. Like I listened to those
even when I was like like a teenager. Sometimes if
I couldn't get to bed, I'd throw on like a
Winnie the Poop and just bore you to sleep. Yeah,
it's just comforting. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Do you share that with your kids as well? Like
is this something that you've passed?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, I mean, well they they listened. They they love
to listen to stuff, my son especially, and I mean
I would read to them a lot when they were
and they're both very avid readers. I mean my daughter
reads it like it's good levels in she's in fifth grade.
She reads at twelfth grade. My son reads I think
at like tenth and he's in third. Wow. But again,

(51:14):
like I started them really really early, so from the
time they were cognizant, I was reading to them.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
And I would read that my mom gave me. That's
a gift. It's my mom did that for me.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I could read it five I showed up in first
grade and and the nuns liked me temporarily took a
couple of years later not so much, but right then there.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh he can read. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
And then, of course, you know, they had all taught
my mom Saint Sally. You may have heard of her,
God Rest nrs. And they expected me to be a
good kid because she was. And that part didn't work
out so well.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
But the reading, I was.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Fine, you're good, yeah good, yeah, no, I mean yeah yeah,
And they would those are great for teaching kids to read,
because just the meeter and the rhyme and all that
and the absolute silliness of what they're talking about makes
it very memorable. So like they would memorize the story
that was being read, and I would notice my son

(52:11):
he would go back and he would start looking over
the book, having now memorize it because I had read
to it, read to him so often that now he'd
be kind of going through and reciting the appropriate words
for the appropriate page. And then that just makes the connection, Oh,
these are the words that I'm reading. So pretty much
through that figured out how to read. And once I
could see that they could read and sound stuff out,

(52:32):
I'm like, well, why stick with this? Why not read
some more advanced stuff. So I always loved rawal doahll,
So I was like, let's let's read THEFG you know,
not even thinking about the fact that, hey, this is
the book about the giants that eat children and crunch
on their phones like the five. But yeah, I started
having my daughter read this stuff and that's tasty, kid. Yeah,

(52:53):
oh god. Yeah. So then they they ended up and
I would read it to them with the voices and
all that, and then I know what's start having them
read it back to.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Me, traumatizing them one book at a time, one book
at a time. Oh, that's wonderful, that's good.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Are they? Are they showing any inkling of following in debt.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Some of it? Basically like, I don't ever want to
push it on them because I feel like when I
was growing up it was pushed on me. And so
I've told them like, if this isn't something you want
to do, you don't have to do it. Oh what,
I'm like, it's there's a lot less competition right now.
There you have somebody who can help you. You are

(53:38):
already repped by one of the best agents in business.
So I'm like, you know you can. It'll make your
life easier if you have savings from the time they did.
They're both union members because they've both worked enough to
be part of the union. Oh that's great. So yeah,
I mean my daughter during COVID, my daughter actually worked
quite a bit because at that time, like I already
had a studio. It happened for ten years already, and

(53:59):
this was when people were rushing to do home studios
because that's the only way that they could work. Yeah,
so she did. She actually did a couple episodes of
Spidey and his Amazing Friends.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And and it was cute because she sounds totally different.
Now now she can pronounce her ours no problem, but
back then she couldn't pronounce her ours. And I said,
don't worry about it, because you know, this takes place
in New York and just you're a little New Yorker,
so when she's saying it's Spidy's web shooter, it's not
like you're from from the city. That's great, great, yeah,
so but yeah, just going back and listening to that,

(54:31):
that's cute. And I'm very open and honest with them about,
you know what, the money that they'll make on all that.
I'm like, this is what a residual is. I'm like this,
you're you see, you're getting this and this is something
you did like three years ago and you're getting a
little bit of money from that. And yeah, the more
of this you can do, the more of this adds up.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, I always want to. It was weird, like my
parents did all of that, so I kind of went
into adult life with like a kid's set of social
and financial skills and had to learn a lot very quickly.
And I don't ever want them to be like that. Like,
I'm very open with them about this is what you make,

(55:08):
this is what the structure is, how much you pay
your agent, this is how all that works when taxes
come around. I'm very very open with them about, Okay,
now this is what you have to do, this is
how much you have to pay, this is what it's
all that. So, but but some of it's going to stick.
And the more I talk to them about it, the
more of a of a mind they're going to have
for the fact that this is still show business, you know,

(55:31):
and and that there's a business to everything, and the
more verse you are in this side of it, the
easier your life is going to Yeah yeah, because they
don't have classes in school that teach you that kind
of stuff like just life skills about you know, show
my agure, but balancing a checkbook, but balancing balancing at
a bank account or or you know, filing your taxes

(55:51):
or knowing.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
For you that you have so much money you have
to hire an accountant. There you go, absolutely, that's that's
the way to go it. Yeah, that's the goal. That
is the goal.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Man, oh man.

Speaker 1 (56:05):

(56:26):
slash Jim Cummings Podcast.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Do it now?

Speaker 3 (56:30):
All right, Well, I think it's time for a voice swap.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Oh, this is true, It's so true.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
This is a little game we play, little game we play.
It's pretty straightforward, but somehow I always managed to screw
it up. Okay, So Jim will do a voice of
one of his characters, okay, and then you will do
that same line, but in a voice of one of
your characters, and then we'll swap vice versa.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Okay, Okay, there we go.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
That sounds good, so.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Se, So wait, what if we do two characters from
in the same show. Oh, do you still remember the
voice of Scroll?

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I think sort of. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Or Thanos? I know you remember Thanos?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, Thanos I do?

Speaker 3 (57:15):
And Spider Man.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, let's do okay. Oh no, I gotta think of
a likely line.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Well, you do a Spider Man line and then we'll
just do it back.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Oka, say my name and I magically appear. Say my
name and I magically appear.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I don't have that kind of depth, but I'll try.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, I was tritoned into the last two okay movies.
So let's see supastioned sebastioned.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
They have not one brain among them, and I do
the same one. Uh huh.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
As from as one of you.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
You okay, Sebastian, Sebastian one. They have not one brain
among them? Okay, I'll do it as iron Man Sebastian. Sebastian,
they have not one brain among them.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Well Tony Stark has a lot of He's got enough
brains for everybody he does.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
That is so freaking awesome.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Wait, can you do what as iron Man for me?
Just a little personal? Can you say, uh, Jarvis maximum
pulse that family of four?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Jarvis maximum pulse, that family of four? Yeah, that that
one right there.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
At all.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
I want to see it later when I'm having shwarma.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
That when you do that voice, do you put some
of Robert Downey Junior in it?

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You kind of have to, Like, I'm not trying to
voicematch him, because like they when I first got hired
for that, they it's funny like they didn't necessarily want
to Rob Downey Junior voice match because there's somebody that
does it way better than I do. My friend McK
winger is like the official Robert Downey Junior voice match
and he can sound literally just like him. You close
your eyes, you wouldn't know it's not RDJ in front

(59:10):
of you.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
But even though I'm not necessarily trying to be him,
it's He's defined that.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Character exactly like exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
So it is kind of disingenuous to not really have
I mean, there's there's a lot of just his dismissiveness
and and the fact that he could just go and
be talking and talking and then just immediately switch to
something else. And uh, it's it's more just in certain
mannerisms and attitude that he carries that I've now kind
of associated with that character. And so yeah, so I

(59:43):
mean just popping some of that stuff in there helps
it still identify to people who are very familiar with
that Iron Man and just put it in that spirit.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yes, I mean, I personally think it's one of the
best performances in the game. I think you, I think you.
James Arnold Taylor is Magneto. That's he does a great job.
And I forget his name, but he plays no more.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Oh my god, I just I just saw him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
He does a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
He did like a Marvel rival signing over at one
of my convention agents and he was there. I just
met him. And what is his name? I'm gonna look
it up because it's gonna bother me. And he was
so sweet, he was so nice, and I don't I'm
horrible with names. It's like a week. I'm usually not.
Let me see, I'll look.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Him up right now, talk amongst yourselves out there, folks.
We're doing research. This is top notch, highly professional research.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Here it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
And he's a younger guy. He's a younger guy, if
I'm not mistaken, My sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Susan Daniel Daniel Marin, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Yes, yes, no more more, man. That game is. That
game is a blast. You should really you should stream
that game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I do want to play it. You have one viewer
A wa yeah, sweet, because right now I've mainly been
streaming World of Warcraft.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Oh yeah, which is another thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I mean I've played that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
You've been playing that for a while, right, twenty years?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah, that's an old game and it's still awesome. Yeah,
and I'm King of the Alliance in that and I
had already been playing for like eight years before I
even auditioned to be in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Really.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Do you believe in the law of attraction?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah, seems like you've manifested a lot of things with
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Like when I got the audition for that, I was
cocky as hell because I was like, I don't care
who they get to audition for this. There's nobody in
this town who has played this game more than I have. Yeah,
because I'd literally played the character that I had been
playing at the time. I mean I had maybe four
months of in game time, like months, twenty four hours,

(01:01:45):
Like if you were to take all my in game
put it all together, really four months of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Oh okay, yeah, Now are you are you hip to
Lord Walker Chow in that game?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, did you Iwalker?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
That's amazing, And they're actually they're bringing because what they
do they have retail Wow, which is like the most
current expansion, but then they've been also doing Wow Classic,
which is older expansions that you play as they were,
and Pandaria is the next minute Classic and that that
actually was the first expansion that I was in. That's
where I started as.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
And the mists of Yeah, have you ever been down there?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
It's a Blizzard too. Oh yeah, I mean is that
place insane?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
It's super cool, unbelievable if you guys ever get a
big statue, unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Apparently it's kind of profitable to be in that business.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Oh only slightly, I guess, just a.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Little little bit yeah, very small.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
What is it ten times more than Major Motion Pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
The last I saw it was up to like four
and a half. Yeah, it's crazy four and a half times.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
And they're not even at their like peak right now,
Like their peak was was right before Minecraft came out. Yeah,
like at that point that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
I think it was crazy. For me personally, Fortnite was
just insane the amount of money that game was Jared
it was like twenty eighteen. I think they made like
almost three billion dollars in one year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Crazy, It's crazy for a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Freezer play game. And just like blew my mind. I
was like what, like, yeah, they're having live concerts and
stuff in this game, Like, what is going on here?
What kind of game is this? Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
I got to get this off my chest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Years in, I mean twenty something years ago, when when
video games were first starting to weasel their way in
there was something Gabriel Knight, Tim Curry was in and
this and that, and I remember going to two SAG
after meetings and we had just first they were if

(01:03:44):
you can actually believe this out there they were going, oh,
well we're not going to worry about cable TV. Listen,
we got MBC. We got ABC, we got CBS. There's
a and then there's a PBS. We get a few
nickels there, and so I went out cable Mabel.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Okay, I was the only one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I go.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
If we don't, nothing comes out and then fails.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Did I mean yet?

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
You know remember the horseless carriages?

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I don't either, But apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Cars are doing okay as you know that they seem
to be sticking around and they didn't know nobody listened.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I feel like the Union has been so behind every
single new technology as it comes out. With new media,
yeah I still call new media, and it's like it's
not new anymore. Yeah yeah, I mean with that, it
just it sucks. It's like I love so many of
the technological advances and so many of the business changes
that have happened, like when they switch from like taxis
to uber and where they go and just say, well,

(01:04:38):
this is a new thing, so these contracts don't apply,
and it's just basically a way of getting out of
like all of their old stuff. Because if you look
at the way that if you look at the way
that new media is released now, it's released like week
by week, just like like broadcasts used to be and
now they have ads on it just like they had
with broadcasts, and they can track the audience more than
they can with broadcasts. But now you don't get the

(01:05:00):
same kind of residuals that we did with broadcast TV,
even though like you literally have to pay for that service.
It's not even like a free to broadcast thing. It's
just crazy like they're none of it's caught up. And
then the fight that we're going through with AI and
all of that in video games where we're on strikes
still because I mean I had to walk away from

(01:05:23):
there was a Triple A game. I obviously can't say
what it was, but there's a Triple A game that
I was one of the leads in and it was
one of these ones that was kind of like on
the fence where it was because for those that don't know,
there's red tag games, which are like games that you
cannot touch because they were striking those companies. They haven't
even started production, they're completely struck. There's the green tagged ones.
The green tagged ones are ones where they've actually signed

(01:05:44):
an interim agreement. So even though we're on strike, they
these particular games have agreed to our turn to come
to yeah, to come to the table and agree by
these rules and these protections. So we're like, okay, we'll
work on those during the strike. And then they're the
yellow Tag games. The yellow Tag games are ones that
were started before the strike, so they were technically started
under the old contract, and you can technically work on them.

(01:06:08):
You're not going to get in trouble with the union
by working on them. However, it does kind of undermine
the strike because you're giving the the video game company's
material to release to weather out the strike, and so
you're kind of shooting yourself in your foot. And there
are still some actors, like big actors, who are working
these games and it's really not productive for anybody. But

(01:06:28):
it's not are they You're you're not considered a scab,
but but but you're not helping, You're you're actively harming,
but you're taking home a paycheck, which I guess is
their main concern. I walked away from this game where
it was it was like a team of people, uh

(01:06:50):
and I was one of the four and I don't
I don't know who the fourth one was, but I
remember a couple of friends mine. Again, I'm not going
to say their names, mainly because NDAs and all that.
But a couple of friends of mine were the other
two two of the others in the squad, and they
just kind of contacted me and said, are you're going
to do this game because it's you know, we're we're

(01:07:10):
thinking of withholding work on it. And when they said that,
I was like, well, I'm not going to be the
one that Yeah, you be.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
My buddies.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So the three of us withheld work. I'm sure they
probably still went through with production on that game. But
and that that was a mocap game. Any sessions I
was making well over scaled for that, so yeah, yeah,
all that money gone. But if we have to fight
this fight now, because if we don't, there's no there's
no business. Like there's stated their stated goal. Their stated

(01:07:41):
want is to be able to basically use anything that
we've ever done, feeded into a machine and yes and
never pass, not pass for anything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
It's all built on theft.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Yeah, So I always say here, take this with the end.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
There you go, like if somebody did the calculation and
if you were to act actually work into the cost
of AI because they say, oh, it's cost savings and
all that. If you were to work into the cost
of AI, the cost of actually tracking everything that goes
in to train the AI, and the cost of fairly
compensating everybody who's stuff trained the AI, there's no cost savings.
It's actually more expensive than to just hire the actual person.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
I've heard.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
I've heard people feed my voice into AI. There have
been like mods that they've done where they put like
my Spider Man voice into the Spider Man game. And
the thing is is, like the AI can match my
voice print. It can do that, but it doesn't match
what I do. It doesn't match my acting with choices
all that. Like when I listened to it, I heard

(01:08:41):
it and they're they're modeling the Spider Man game that
you're a Spider Man in. So I listened to it.
It's my voice print, but it's still URI's acting. Still,
it's still the way that he acts. There's nothing wrong
with the way he acts, but it's not what I
would So it's not really me. It's like a weird thing.
It's not the choices that I would have made. Like
I said, nothing against you, it's just but what this is,

(01:09:03):
it's just my voice print for that, but that kind
of further cements the fact that on its own, AI
really has to have an actor underneath it to drive
the voice. Print. Yes, the same way that like mocap,
if I'm playing like a creature that looks nothing like me,
it still has to have an actor underneath it, moving
it and puppeting it and doing it all on that

(01:09:25):
for it to be real and for it to feel.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Like for you actually feel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, it still needs somebody to drive it. So at
that point, like you're gonna have to still hire an
actor to like drive the voice, So why not just
cut up and it seems like acting with extra steps?

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, it's crazy to me, it's crazy, Yeah, unnecessarily.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Yeah. My main concern is not what AI is capable of,
it's what people are being trained to accept. Because when
you go on TikTok, like a majority of this stuff
on there is narrated by the same crappy AI voices.
You know, you see so much of that kind of stuff,
a lot of AI art, So it's like people have
already had this stuff seeded into their mind for so long.

(01:10:06):
My concern is like they're just gonna think it's good enough. Yeah,
I was gonna're gonna think that the crap that AI
can turn out on it's going to be the great.
It's going too we're settling. Yeah, like it's it's good
enough because that's what they've been trained to accept. So
that's that's my concern. That's legit. Yeah, that's a very
good that's a good point, the dumbing down. But I

(01:10:27):
still exactly, but I still feel like there's still going
to be a market for for for like, you know,
actual actual creativity, actual acting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
There always has to be a market for excellence. Yea,
you know, there's always room for better, right, Absolutely, that's
that's got.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
To be you know, knock on wood all that. Yeah,
and if not, you know, I I like doing stuff
around the house and doing electrical work. Maybe I'll get
my electricians license and do that. You know, we'll see
what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
So listen, do you have anything you'd like to announce
like an upcoming ben.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I'm doing a ton of conventions this year. When is
this going to air?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
About two weeks? Three weeks?

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Okay, So I will have already been at four State
Comic con in Hagerstown, Maryland, which I'm doing this weekend.
But that's going to be after this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
I will be at Galaxy Con Oklahoma City on Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
I will also be how about New Orleans, I will
be at the New Orleans one.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Yes, I'll be at that one as well, my second hometown.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Are you going to be at that one? I don't know,
but I hope you're there. I am too. Yes, absolutely,
I'll take it to the palace. I would love that.
I'm going to be doing a bunch of them. Just
I'm gonna actually put together a list of the ones
that they've cleared me to announce on my socials. So
my socials will be on Twitter. I will always call
it Twitter. Josh Keaton just Josh Keaton on Twitch, It's

(01:11:55):
space Padre on Instagram at space Padre. On Facebook, it's
Josh Keaton's page, and uh TikTok, it's v Josh Keaton
because somebody already had Josh Keaton. I mean, I guess
it's fair. Yeah, I know that I'm not the only one. Yeah,
there's something I can't be too mad at other Josh Keaton. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
There was a guy out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
There named Jim Cummings and he was and he had
a band, the Jim Cummings band, and that was really
pissed me off a little.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Wait, I'm not in that band.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
You should?

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
I should?

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
What the hell anyway? But yeah, he played bass. Anybody
can play it. But you're also going to be at
Chattanooga Comic Con. Yes, so you have, so I've done
look at that. Yeah, and we've got your social media. Well,
I think we mentioned that Josh Keaton or space Space

(01:12:53):
that was.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
An interesting one. Space that one came from.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
It came from Voltron because I got nicknamed Space Dad
from that because he was kind of like the leader
of the team. He kind of was like the the
oldest one of the group and so and so they
kind of called him Space Dad. They actually called Hal
Jordan in Green Lantern Space Dad as well, because he
kind of like he kind of like had this this

(01:13:18):
dadish vibe towards his ai Aya, who ended up taking
on a humanoid form and was very protective of her.
And so that's where I first got called Space Dad.
But it really got popularized with Voltron, and uh, space
Dad was already taken. So I'm latinos so I was like, well,
let's let's do uh No, that's great, because I didn't

(01:13:39):
I didn't want to do Papa, because then it would
just like space Papa, which could also be like space Potato,
which is actually kind of funny, and maybe space Potato.
But I was like, by the way, space Jam was taken,
Space Jam was definitely taken.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Yeah, man, Well, thanks for being here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Thank you for having me. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
It's always good to see you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Always, good to see you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Yes, pleasure talking too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Nice to meet you. Yes, great to see all of you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
And we have to get a picture before we go.
Absolutely have to get a picture. Absolutely, But before that
I will wrap this up. Thank you everybody for watching
another episode of Tuned In with Jim Cummings, joined as
always by Josh Keaton, not as always, but this time yeah, yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Hopefully always buy an amazing guest. This time it was
Josh keatday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
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(01:14:44):
check us out over there. If you want to buy
some merchandise, you can go on Shopify to Jim Cummings
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I leaving anything out? I don't think I am so.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
All the venues YouTube, Spotify, hammedahing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Yeah, a sketch. We're big on edge of sketch.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
But yeah, other than that, thank you all for watching.
We hope you enjoyed this episode and we'll see you
in the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Hey, that was fun. Thank you that you brother,

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