Susan Egan (Hercules, Steven Universe, Beauty and the Beast)

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Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's another day at paradise and made even better. You're
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Guess who we have here today.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Ladies and gentlemen, go ahead, do you take it? I'm
giving you the drums.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
By guys. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh, yes, thank you. Yes, I'll have to bring bongos
next time because it's not as good anyway. But thanks
for being here, buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
So much fun to be here. Really flattered that you asked,
so thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, we're flattered that you said yes, yes, yes, this
is great and and uh, you're a busy person these days.
She came in her I guess those are rehearsal rehearsal close.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yes, So I was down in Culver City at a
at a dance studio today working with our two choreographers
for a show that I produced for Disney Concerts called
Disney Eighties Nineties Celebration in Concert.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yes, could we get you to tell us about it here?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah. So I have a company called tenth and Maine
with my partner Adam Levy, and we co produced a
bunch of stuff with Disney Concerts. Absolutely love our work.
Husbands over at Disney Concerts, and we've done a couple
of shows at the Bowl. This one was at the
Bowl last year. This one's a really fun one to
be a part of because Disney Eighties nineties. I was

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a full on adult in the eighties nineties.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
You too, huh, Yeah, Well, I was an even older adult.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
I'm working with millennials, and those those were the decades
as you know, I mean your fandom from these decades.
You know, these were the kids that you know, be
kind rewind those VHS tape days.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Oh I worked in a video store.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I know that very well.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Long before we had streaming capabilities. These were those kids
and they've and I think what's wonderful is that they
never outgrew Disney. They just grew up. And so these
concerts they're definitely family friendly Disney eighties nineties because all
the new kids still loved the Little Mermaid and Aladdin
and goofy movies.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, I think at Disney share it with Disney generation
is every several years because it's we got a whole
fresh batch of three year olds, four year olds. I say,
it's certainly about Winnie the Pooh. You know, they're for
sure we're making fresh three year olds all the time.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's true, it turns around. It just it just keeps regenerating,
which is great. This one's fun because you know, these
all these millennials have you know, kids now, and they
get to share it with their kids and share it
with their parents who had to listen to those VHS
tape days, you know days. But and then there's like
the element do you experience this with the Disney adults
who come disney bounding wearing something I tried to disney

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bound a little bit today in some neg colors, you know,
but you know they come, you know, maybe wearing for you.
They'd wear a little like yellow pants and a red vest,
you know, which you like a little bit of pooh there.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
But yeah, yeah, the most interesting version of that, in fact,
I think you were there, chrisph these years ago at Disney,
and these these four people were standing outside of the
what was D twenty three was ye Club thirty three,
and they were standing there and they were trying to
be conspicuously inconspicuous and okay and uh and uh oh, well,

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well it would appear that mister Cummings is here, you know,
and imagine that. And I went, okay, and there's a
guy and he's got he's got sort of a rather
portly fellow, and he's got glasses that that are like this,
and they had a bit of a mustache and the
and I said, you know, you remind me somebody and goes, oh,

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might it be. And they were dressed as Piglet, but
bounding Disney bounding Piglet, remember that, And and uh, and
there was someone there that was Tigger. They were easier
to spot, sure because you know. And then the Pooh
person was had a very nice tummy and uh and
had a smack roll or two at the at the

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ready it and it was just it just cracked me up.
So Disney, wherever you are, we love We love you
guys for you.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
And they're so creative and and just embrace all the
qualities of these characters. I love it. No, it didn't
occur to me till right now. My brother in law,
Todd Hartman, married and you know, I'm married to Robert Hartman.
Todd Hartman, he was Tigger in the Parks in the seventies. Yeah,
he's like a Tigger personality in real life. He definitely
bounces everywhere he goes.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, well tell him, I said, how you doing there, buddy,
Boyd's amazing. Well, you know, we have branches en franchises everywhere.
Everybody wants to be a Tigger.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
But I'm the only one. You knew I had to
do that.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Sorry, Yeah, the only one I got it out of me.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Okay, we can move forward them. That's so cool that
you're here. Thanks, Thanks, and you keep busy.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yes, so it's right.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I mean it's been fun.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
So what, I celebrated thirty one years this year with Disney.
Beauting the Beast opened in nineteen ninety four. I would
like to add that my business partner was born ten
days after I opened and Beautying the Beast in nineteen
So they're truly surrounded by millennials, which I love. They
keep me young and they explain my texts. So yeah,

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I'm like, I don't know what this acronym means. So yeah,
IRL in real life. So yeah. So so thirty one
years and then I got to do some animation and
done things you know, all over the Disney Company. But
really really lucky that they've entrusted me to sort of

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be behind the scenes now and write and produce for them,
and it's so cool. And then you know, get to
hire the next generation of people, and those are the
people that did it for me. You know, our good
friend Jody Benson, she's like a sister to me, and
when I first entered into this foray, she really helped
guide me. And so it's a lot of a lot
of fun to do that for the next generation, sort

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of pass the torch.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's so great. And you started you come
from theater, I do so.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, Broadway was the thing, and you think about it,
you know, you look back, you're like, oh my gosh.
I was so lucky, you know. And I was called
back to a different couple different shows in this one week,
and Beauty the Beast was just one of them. But
Disney had never done Broadway, and people are like, I
don't know, Disney's on Broadway.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Now it seems like a foregone conclusion, obviously because there's
so much source material to make musicals, but at the
time they had never done anything. And nobody had ever
taken a cartoon and made it into a stage show.
Nobody had done that before. That seemed like at the
time also that particular musical, like what are you gonna
do with a with a candlestick and a clock and

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a teapot? How are you gonna do that? Because they're
supposed to be this big and ye. So anyway, so
it wasn't a sure thing and it wasn't a short hit,
and I had another show I was called back for
and I really thought I was going to do that one.
And the truth is is that the Beauty of the
Beast callback was on a Tuesday, and that one was
on a Thursday. And if it had been the other
way around, my life would be totally different. Maybe I
would have gotten either job. But but just the fact

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that I tripped over this opportunity. And and then like you,
you're you're always a member of the family. You never
get out. No, I don't want to get out, but yeah,
but you are part of this Disney family that really
is tight.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, there's a there's
a certain camaraderie there, and and and and you're protective
of it, aren't you. Yeah, you know, you don't want
anybody to hey easy, you know it's you know, I'm uh,
I feel that way about uh, Tigger and Pooh and
you know, any any character that I have.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, of course, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
And then there's something about this particular company of just
that fandom where you meet people and it's just a
it's a love on another level. Then if you're you know,
I've done stuff for you know, to network and other
things too, and they're great.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, but it's there.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
It's not the same.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's not the same.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
To be part of something Disney is to be part
of something that is timeless, that will last far beyond you.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Oh, you know, I agree, I I you know. I
remember there's an ancient picture of me. They took me
over to Sears Roebuck. I was about two years old
Series Roebuck and other people in my age group will go, oh, yeah, all,
let me guess they put you on that thing. And
they took the picture and I'm sitting there, you know,

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with my little face hanging out, and I got my
Mickey Mouse shirt on Mickey mouse Club and it was like,
you know, I just was in heaven. I just thought
that was the greatest thing in the world. And it
was Swamp Fox was on, then Zoro, then I think
Mickey mouse Club on Sunday Nights and.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Channel twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And that funny.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I can't remember anybody's phone number, but I still remember,
like the channel, yeah, channel thirteen, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, and uh and that's that.
That was my connection, yeah, you know, and I never
in a million well, actually I kind of thought I
would start doing this when I was about five, but
but yeah at the time because I was only two.
I was very young when I was two, uh, and
so very immature. But I kind of knew that I

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was going to do this. Did and I'm wondering did?
Was it that way for you?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
So funny? So I started out actually figure skating, and
I don't know why I tried. I do know why.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I did the Donnie and Marie show.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
They always started out on ice skates and so and
I'm like, I want to do that, and so, you know,
I'm from southern California. They started every show on ice
skates on an ice ran and I met Donnie I
don't know, like ten years ago. Now I go, you know,
I started figure skating because of your show.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
We probably met in same yess.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh my god, that's hysterical.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Let's get down to busy the hunts yah, ladies.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
And so funny.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
We just forst that today. Actually yeah we did?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
We did you kidding? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's it's in our show. It's very I mean,
mulan she's a nineties girl. She's a nineties girl.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yesh.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, it's a good song.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
So anyway, So I started ice skating, but the rink
was like forty minutes away from our house, and so
we to kill time. My mom and I support a
beautiful mother. We would listen to musicals on the way
down there, and you know, I memorized all these different musicals,
and when competing didn't seem like it would be the
right thing for me. Ultimately, I had all this ballet

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in my background from skating, and so I stopped and
I had all this time on my hands. But I
knew all these musicals, and so I thought, well, maybe
I'll try out for the school musical, and so that
that did it. That was in middle school, and then
I went to the Orange County School of the Arts,
which was an arts magnet school and down in Orange County,
and it's yeah, it is, it's it's well, it was
in Los Alamitos, but now it's in Santa big, huge campus.

(12:02):
I mean it's much bigger now than it was when
I was there. But it's a it's a fantastic school.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
And yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
But also simultaneously grew up in Seal Beach, fifteen minutes
from Anaheim and would go to the parks back when
you had to rip tickets out, you know, the e tickets. Yes, yeah,
way back in the day ticket is nowaday we're speaking Chinese.
And so I had this love of Disney as well,
and it just sort of I lucked out that, you know,

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I uh, out of college. I got cast in a
national tour of a show called by by Bertie with
Tommy Chune, and Tommy said, LA is never going to
know what to do with you. Musicals weren't cool again
yet high school Disney actually did it high school musical
and then you know, like Chicago, the movie and musicals
became cool again. But in the early nineties it wasn't.

(12:52):
You kind of hid musical theater at the bottom of
your resume if you were an actor in LA, if
you did theater, you would kind of ignore that. Really, yeah,
it wasn't cool yet again. And so anyway, so Tommy
talked me to moving to New York and I auditioned
for beating the piece like I literally won the lottery. Yeah,
and I did. I did for two and a half years.

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I did it for the first year in New York.
We did six months before New York and New York
and then we came out here to the now gone
Schubert Theater, but at the Schubert theater here, and I
did it for another year here and and just loved it.
And that was when I auditioned for Meg and Hercules.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm sure I saw you.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Maybe, Yeah, if you saw Tom Bosley, most people would remember,
we're seeing Tom Bosley as Maurice because.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
He's mister Cunningham. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
But yeah, if you saw it the first year in
New York or the first year in LA that would
have been me.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, not funny. You've known each
other in long, so long, I remember.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Because everyone looks same in that blue dress.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
So you wait a minute, I recognize you now, Missy.
Yeah I know. Oh that's great.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, it was really really really cool. And but the
but the irony, of course is that I wanted to
audition for Hercules and they would as Hers I would.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Have made.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I might have even been better than you, not.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Much, but yeah, but they wouldn't let me audition because
Meg is such kind of a you know, a tough cookie,
and Belle is so kind and you know, I guess
I guess what they learned was that I was acting
as Bell and like, I'm definitely Megan real life.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah that's great, Yeah, it was so.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
That must have been a crazy feeling at that time,
like you must have felt like you yes.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
But you know, I don't think a lot of people
and you've, i'm sure, talked about it on your podcast
with people. But it's a weird audition situation where you
go into a room. In this case, it was a
dance studio in New York City with like traffic noise
and had a microphone and they taped you on a
cassette tape.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Chris, Yes, and they all put.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Their heads down and they're looking at a picture of
the character. They're not looking at you. And then I
did my reading. But the cool thing about Meg is
that she was written to be like Barbara Stanwick and
the Lady Eve. And I'm like a sucker for all
those thirties forties. Oh yeah, monster, sure girl, you know, sister, Yeah, right,

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know how to whist it, don't you? You pucker up
your lips and below like it's this wholl like cadence
of reading. Yeah, yeah, yeah, double indemnity like all of that. Yes,
And so I don't know that it came naturally to me.
And I ended up booking the gig, but not for
like a year and a half. So a year later,
I'm in Los Angeles walking the halls of the Schubert Theater.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Took their time, huh.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, because it's old school. They were animating to it,
and Michael Isiser's walking down the hall. He's like, Egan,
I just got your audition for Hercules. I'm like, I
made it to Eisner, you know. Yeah, And they take
three final tapes and then they test animate to it
to see which one actually goes with the look of
the character. I guess wow, yeah, and I end up

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getting to do so I got to be a bad girl.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, wow, Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
I liked it.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
At her Like that was good.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Frustration with men out on the recording studios. It was
very therapeutic.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes, well we had a scene in there because.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I was the centaur. Yes, you were Nessus the Centaur.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
That was the very first scene I have ever recorded
for voiceover.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Ever.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
No, kid, you know, might as well just start with
Disney Like. Since then, I've done a lot of bad,
not bad, but the major motion picture. Yeah, but it
was because it had been like three or four movies
since they'd had an actress be both the singing voice
and speaking voice. I mean, I was like Jody Benson
and Petro Harrah came from Broadway and then and they

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just wanted to find somebody, so they went back to
Broadway to find them. And that was the very first
scene I ever had, and.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I didn't know what I was doing, and I don't
know about that well because.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Like I record the scene and then John and Ron
the director, so like, okay, so that was very good.
Can you can you do it again? As if like
there's a fish down your top? And you know, as
an actor you always say, yeah, of course, sure, yeah,
I can write a motor like you're like, I got to.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Learn on the red motors like fish down my top?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Sure, so yeah, yeah, I just don't happen to have which.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
But you know in that recording boot, you just make
a fool of yourself, like do you do anything to
get that expression out in your voice? And that scene
you were so great. I mean talk about range. Could
it be farther from from Pooh and Tiger? Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh no, probably not.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
He was giant, and you know, yeah he was. He
was impressive. He was impressed with himself. He was so
good and I could have taken Hercules.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
What was that voice? I can't remember what it sounds like.
You know, it was kind of well, well, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Look who it is, the little pink guy.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, you know, and.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
He's got me in his class and Hercules trying to
save me. And it was so fun because it was
like Meg's rolling her eyes but like meanwhile, like you're
just carrying me around.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah yeah, god man, that's that's good stuff.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I have a damsel. I'm a distress. I can handle it.
Have a nice day, like you know. It was so yeah, kooky,
like it was written by like a screwball comedy. The
script was great.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, and your hair was great. Can remember thinking, yeah,
I feel bad, your hair is going to something's gonna
happen with the hair. It's going to get up and
leave the room.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Correct. It was a character of its own. And all
these poor girls who cause play Meg, who come to
my table, I'm like, oh, how are you doing? I've
got a tile in all for you. Do you have
a headache? Likedache because it's just you know, yeah, and
then it's off center. You know, it's easy for a
cartoon character, but it's hard for a girl.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it looks a.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Little Yeah, it's shaped to look like a Grecian vase,
you know, like a Grecian urn, and then her body
is like a Greek column, and then you know, like
they Gerald Scarf was the designer, the guy who animated
Pink Floyd's The Wall. Really yeah, it was such a
departure for Disney.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
It's really cool.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
He animated Pink Floyd's the Wall.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yes, and Hercules was that he was the designer for Hercules.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, so it was a really different kind of look.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
It was. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Almost in the way that like in Aladdin with Robin
with the genie. They made it look like a hirschfeldt
you know, like a line drying.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yes, yes, yes, yeah, it was a different Well I
lucked out, I was I think I'm trying to think of.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm very close to the first line in Hercules. Yeah,
but I'm definitely the last line. I'm that was that
was Phil's Boy.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Oh, It's such a full circle moment. It's everything I've
ever dreamed of. It's like I just want somebody say
that's Phil's Boy, and the movies like That's Phil's Boy.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, I love that scrip.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
You know it's live on stage now in London.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I didn't know that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, they did it in Germany and they did it
and they did it in Central Park like a different
version of it about five years I think pre COVID,
and then they tried it again and they keep you know,
sort of shifting making adjustments to it, and then big
successful run in Germany and now it's opening in London.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Now I'm always amazed that they do that. They turn
these big animated.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Dombastic how do you?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I mean I remember seeing Lion King for the first time,
going oh, so that's how they they're going to do it, okay, Julie.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Taymor, I mean, so brilliant and just made it totally
their own.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
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Speaker 2 (21:09):
Do it Now.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
It's interesting. So in beauty and the Beast. It was
their first one, and they really felt like audiences would
feel betrayed if we didn't look exactly like the cartoon,
to the point that they put me in flats. They
put Terry the Beast in lifts so that we would
have the same silhouette ratio as the movie poster. Oh okay,
and then they learned really quickly, you don't need to

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do any of that, like audiences are much more sophisticated.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
So, I mean they had everybody in these prosthetics to
look like the movie, and you kind of our best
run through was before we got into costumes, in that
final rehearsal hall run through, and then we sort of
lost a lot of the humanity behind the makeup and
the sets and the costumes and stuff, and so they
started stripping things away, but it was already designed. They
really couldn't do much more than that. Their very next

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foray was Lion King, where they didn't make anything look
like anything like the movie because they finally learned, like,
if you capture the love and the joy and the
spirit of that film and then do something that's innovative
for stage, which is what Julie Taymor's puppetry is I mean, yeah,
then it's just linking two point zero like now it's
now it's something even more.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yah. Yeah, I was flabbergasted.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Oh it was so beautiful, really moving and simple, like
that's the kind of theater that we've been doing since
the Grecian times. I mean, just you know, masks and
simple elements that actually are really impressent. Correct, exactly right.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's that's all.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, Well, Hercules I'm excited about because I was in
the studio when those five muses were recording all their music.
I was waiting to record my songs, so I got
to just listen to them sing all of their songs first.
And I just remember it was music director Alan Mankins there,
We've got our directors there, our producer Alice do it
like it's seven of us listening to these women literally

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raise the roof, and I thought we are the only
I mean, the recording will be great, but it's not
like being in the room. Yeah, And now audiences get
to be in the room. And when I saw the latest, well,
the last incarnation of Hercules on stage, it was in
paper Mill Playhouse outside of New York, and I finally
just got to kind of look around those muses or.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Maybe and just yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
What you know, I'm just yeah, bless myssle. I'm like,
whoa in five part harmory just like you can't nothing
is better than that.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Oh, I agree.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
So it is something that I think needed to sing live.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Well, you know, I remember having this philosophy about music anytime,
just watching cartoon and a song comes on, you know,
bugs Bunny saying come on my maybe come on. You know,
I remember thinking and seeing my kids will stand up
and they'll start strutting around the room, you know, like
two three year olds. Music is gets everything, everything kicks

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it up and not it is.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, it is. I think the connector for humanity. There's
something about it. It doesn't go through our head, it
goes right to our solar plexus. It's a vibration. Our
bodies respond to it, and it's interesting as a producing
these shows for Disney now our show Disney Princess. The
Concert has now played eighteen countries on you know, five continents,

(24:28):
including I mean all over We've played you know, all
over the Middle East, and you sort of think, like, oh,
it's going to be a conservative crowd, it's going to
be like and it's the mids. We opened in Saudi
Arabia and Riodd and I got to sing on a
stage that two years prior, it was illegal for a
woman to be on stage, so it was amazing, and
we're doing this. Disney prins is the concert about female

(24:48):
characters defining their own destinies.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Like it was really amazing.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
That all those kids are dressed as elsa singing. Let
it go. Same in all throughout Asia, same all throughout Brazil,
South America, Like we've been all over and you sort
of realize it's a small road after all. But truthfully,
there is something about music, okay, but then also Disney music,

(25:14):
which is that childhood nostalgia thing that we all have
in common, that that is a common denominator. I think
it's the key to it.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I agree, Yeah, I think it's one of the biggest
things that set us apart from animals. Right, there's no
animals that have rhythm.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Or the moment we could beat on a drug. It
all started with that and and these vocal cords that
can stretch and and do things. So yeah, it's it's
pretty incredible. And you know, we started out talking before
everything was rolling about the Sherman brothers and oh yeah,
just the very idea of It's a small world. After all,

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everybody in every single country knows that song. Isn't that
amazing that there is something that every everybody knows?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, oh yeah, And unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
A small world.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I had to choose which song. They probably wouldn't have
chosen that one to be the one, but it is
the one, no, I agree.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
And they were and I'm happy to say, proud to
say that they were friends of mine. I worked with
them dozens of times over the year, both of them,
you know. And yeah, and you know they were they
were like polar opposites, you know, digging around wow, yeah, yeah, wait,
wait did twenty seven films? You know we did twenty eight? No, wait,
twenty seven, Yeah, twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I told you twenty seven. You know.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
The other one was Richard, Yeah, correct, Yes, they were
both back and forth, you know, and uh, and I
just remember one time, I'll just be brief with this story.
I said, oh, by the way, you guys, because I'd
got to know them over the years. I found the
cure for It's a Small World, and he found the

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cure it's just it needed a cure. And I said
pretty much, yeah, and he goes, oh, please tell me,
tell me what is the cure? And I said, well,
I've given this a lot of thought, and you really
can't just not forget it. You have to drive it out,
you have to get something. You have to purge it

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with another song and so, and it can't have a
strong hook because then you're stuck with that song.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
So I figured it out, and it's the Beatles.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
The Beatles are the cure for the Sherman brothers. Please
I must hear more, you know. And I said, well,
it's the Long and Winding Road, the long and winding Yeah,
because you know the long and winding road. Blah blah
that lease to Yoda. If you get that far, you're

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you're purged.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
See you can't even think of that song that we
were talking about. He goes, I.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Thought it was it's a small weld after Yeah, yes
it was. It's a small world after all. But but
now long and winding he wrote, He goes, I can
still remember it.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I know.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Okay, okay, well it doesn't work on you, but you
wrote it so that you don't count.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, it's such an earworm, right, oh an earworm?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, yeah, and usually you're looking for that, you are.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
I mean, that's that's a successful songwriter. That's a successful
that's what everybody's trying to create. And they did it
over and over and over and over and over. Super cola, fragilistic,
I mean, like, how do you Yeah, fourteen syllables, jimminy,
I mean yeah, docius alix bus to tragi, Yes, I.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Have oh, indubitobly indul see. Yeah, oh boy, are we good?
These things like come on, my baby, come on, turned
to Michigan j frog here in a second, totally well,
we got completely off. So what the hell were we
talking about it? I don't know, but it was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
You still perform to this day, Yeah I do.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Yeah, I still perform maybe in twenty percent of the
things that I'm producing. Every so often I jump on,
like with eighties nineties, like I'll jump on and sing
Meg's song. Sure, she's a nineties gal.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
And you did Beauty and the Beast again not too
long ago.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Right, Oh gosh, that you remind me of that. Okay,
so well wait, yeah, so I joked about this, so
this it was really bad. So my friend Patrick, question,
it was bad. Patrick Cassidy is a friend and he
was running a theater up Patrick.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Cassidy, Yeah, yeah, he's a friend of mine too.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
He lives in Nashville. Now we both live in here.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, that's right. But he was running I live in
his house.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Oh my god, I've rented his house for a while.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
It is after world, it is after all.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
So he was running five star theater. They were doing
Beauty the Beast. He called me up, Hey, do you
want to do a Beauty and the Beast? And I'm like,
oh my gosh, I would love to play Missus Potts. Like,
I'm you know, forty eight, Let's play Missus Potts. He's like, literally,
what did you play Bell? I'm like, okay, I was
twenty I was literally twenty four when I played Bell No.
Forty eight. But then my my friend Ben who's music director,
and my husband's like, I never got to see you

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play Beauty and the Beast and my daughters had never
seen her. Thought, well, I mean it was awful. I
should not have done it. But then I joke I'm
gonna do it again at seventy two. Just every twenty
four years. I'm gonna play bell In, but the actor's
part time, it'll be you and.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
It'll be fabulous.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
How many shows, like two weekends of shows. It wasn't
a ton but but the cast was fantastic. Everybody was
really sweet and it was a lot of fun to
sort of revisit. I can't look at pictures of it.
They horrify me, but that it was, it was. It
was a lot of fun and it was sweet that Patrick,
you know, created that moment. Yeah, I think of like,

(30:42):
I'm like, well, if Kathy Rigby can go back and
Peter Peter Pan one more time, Like okay.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Oh that's true.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Huh yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
I mean she's did it under her sixties, you know.
So Mary Martin frankly so, you know, but Mary Martin
the original Peter Pearl.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
But I remember that one.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I don't you know, I don't think I was doing
anybody any favors to do that. I just think my
music director, who was seven the first time I did it,
I wanted to see it again. He's like, if you
don't do it, I will stop working with you.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm like, all right, so yeah, so he had you
over a barrel he did.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Oh god, well that was a sweet barrel to be over.
We're all glad you're barreled through.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I don't get to do plays much anymore. Our friend
Jodi Benson's doing a lot of plays again now that
she's yeah, now that she's an empty nester and she's
she just did the production of Gypsy. She just did
a production of Hello Dolly. I got to see. She
was amazing and this is down in. She did those
in Florida. Actually one was in Florida. I can't remember
where the other ones.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, yeah, well she's great, she's amazing. Yeah, yeah, I
mean the literal best. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
I remember years ago we were doing uh I think
it was a Little Mermaid three or something, and we're
doing and we were out on oh gosh, what's the
island in the middle Catalina. Yeah, and they had it
at the old theater. They had the Yes, it was

(32:11):
so cool. Were you there?

Speaker 4 (32:13):
It was not at that no, no, but that's pretty cool.
I love that though.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was really cool. And and and
Jody walked out on stage and coach, you could hear
a pin drop and you hear this one little three
year old daddy that's Aria, And you know, thinking she's quiet,
you know, and everybody just and Jody walked over to yes, my.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Dear, it is Ariel, and I looked just the same,
you know.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Oh no, she's so she's perfect at that stuff, you know.
And she really she is the first lady of the
Disney Princesses. Like I do a bunch of stuff with
all the princesses, but we all, we all, you know,
surround Jody and she's so excellent at it. Oh yeah,
is like a lovely sister to all of us. But
but yeah, she was in our Bowl show last year.

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And you know, there were a lot of epic moments
in that show, because there's a lot of epic moments
in the eighties nineties movies, that's for sure. But there was,
you know, eighteen thousand people and you could have heard
a pin drop when Jody walked on stage and just
people getting to hear her sing that song. There is
there is no topping it. And because I write the show,
I never follow it. I never have to follow Jody.

(33:32):
Oh I won't follow Jody. I want three or four
numbers in between Jody's number and my numbers, or I'll
do my number before Jody does her number. Because you
can't talk Jody's number.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, that's funny. What does she sing?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Same part of your world?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
But then she and I actually did a duet of
when When She Loved Me from Toy Story two, which
is a tear jerker tune. It's a good song, that.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Is, oh man, that we got to get you on stage.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, I can't make it through that song. That's a
tough one. I'm a sucker for those songs. I can't,
you know, oh man.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
So many of those Pixar moments are like, it's that
one and the one from up When when that whole
montage of like when he met his wife when they
were kids, and that whole thing's.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Goose bumps me. Oh yeah, good old cantankerous Ed.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
I know. Did you ever work with I did? I
did an episode of Party of five and he played
their grandfather and I played a daughter of his that
nobody knew about, and I had a scene with him.
I just thought like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
I a daughter of his that nobody knew about. Oh Ed,
you rascal, you, oh boy.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah. He was a good old buddy of mine.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, I got to work with him.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Any number of times, and and he and he was
just as cantak and he wasn't playing a care when
he was Cantankeros.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
That he was just Cantankeros. That was just him.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, he made a whole career.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
You just got to be unself.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah yeah, come on, you know I really a for Christiche.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
I mean the More show. I idolized, the Mary Tyler
Moore Show.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Oh yeah, I mean, oh yeah, well what's not to love? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, that was a classic sitcom. Is that a goal
of yours as well? Are you going to nail down
a no?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
I think this com is gone. I did a sitcom
for two years, actually in between a couple of Broadway shows,
which it didn't, you know, fly very far, but it
got me a house.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Oh that ain't bad.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
So I used to I do TV to support my
theater habit, you know, good for you. It was called Nicki.
It was on the WB. It starred Nicky Cox and
we played Vegas show girls. Her husband was a wrestler,
so obviously our demographic was like eighteen to thirty four
year old men. Unfortunately, we were on the WB where
they wanted us to appeal to like thirteen to fifteen

(35:59):
year old girls. But our show runner was this great
guy who had the Drew Carrey Show and had Norm Show,
and we really should have been like, you know, coupled
with one of those. But it was a lot of fun.
It's like doing Summer Stock. You know, it's a thirty
minute play every every week, and you were her sitting
and you do it in front of an audience. And
I was just a theater person, so like the camera

(36:19):
guys loved me because I never needed a second take
because I just like, you don't get a second take, right, yeah,
well we get to do it again. I can fix that,
like I just usually in theater, you just you know,
ye falls down. You're like nice castle, you know, Yeah,
you don't really get to stop and starting. Yeah, but
it was it was really a luxury. Yeah, and I did.

(36:42):
I record on the Drew Carry Show for a while,
and I did a couple other yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Characters on the Drew Carry shows and Susanne.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
So so Bruce Helman who's the showrunner, just really liked me,
and he's like, I'm gonna bring you on the Drew
Cary Show again, but he would just write a different character.
He's like nobody's paying attention to him, like, all right,
so he would let me. I was doing that when
I was doing the other. It's it's fun. It's great.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Is that if you had to do one thing, like
one medium going forward.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
I don't think I could leave music. Yeah, yeah, I
feel just really lucky. I you know, I don't have
a huge career, but I've worked consistently, and I've gotten
to do.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
All kinds of a huge careersistently.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
I mean, right, but but yeah, I mean from theater
to voiceover, where I got to play characters that I
would never get to play in real life. Because you
can look like anything. I could play a puppy dog,
I can play a giant alien. I can play you know,
And so that's always really fun. Also, you wear jeans
and T shirt and no makeup and show up to
work like that's a glory day for me.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
So I love voiceover, but I love music, and I
love live music and singing with a symphony. Nothing is
nothing can beat seventy musicians, you know, and the whole
Hollywood Bowl. But I have to say, I really, really
really love being behind the scenes. I love creating the
work and getting to call somebody up and say you
have a job, and you know, come come sing with us.

(38:11):
And I love that.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, yeah, well it's you know, it's the stuff that
I always say, you know, things I would do for
free if you can get them to pay you.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
That's that's that's what's all. That's what it's all about.
I think, so really lucky.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
And then the fact that I used to want to
be a really serious actress. I remember when I was
doing probably that sitcom here I was. I was working
with a coach, an acting coach, and they say, well,
what do you want to do. I want to be
doing like the independent films that like Jennifer Jason Lee
is doing, and I want to be like taken seriously.
She's like, okay, do me a favorite.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Well that's serious.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Go to somebody. Go to somebody, you know who's not
in the industry, and ask them what they like about
what you do. And I was volunteering at a school
and I went to one of the administrative assistants who's
not one of the creatives, she's you know, part of
the faculty, and I said, Sean, hey, you know, my
acting coach has asked me to ask somebody who's not

(39:06):
in the industry, Like, what is it that you like
about what I get to do. She's like, oh, oh my gosh, Susan,
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
What I love about what you could do is you
get to make everybody happy, Like everything you do is
so joyful.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
And I went back to my coach. She's like, Susan,
just embrace it, like, don't don't fight that. But that's
not bad.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
That's not bad at all.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
And the moment I stopped going, well, all right, I'm
just I'm gonna be silly. I'm gonna be ridiculous. I'm
gonna sing silly songs for like yeah, and people really do,
like they the kinds of things we create in animation
and with the live concerts is they are at this
sort of balm. You don't know what people are going
through in their lives, and people have reached out, like

(39:46):
especially during COVID, like Oh, I've just been listening to
this album and I just wanted to write to you,
like this song has really gotten me through these things.
And you're like, you have no idea who you get
to touch? Oh, how it? So it's really I.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Feel like, yeah, we want it's a Blessing.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
The Lucky Club, like.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
We're yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, you know, you end up
touching people that you'll never see, because I've said it
a million times. We're sitting in a room alone, usually
ninety five percent at the time, you're alone and you're
just voicing this, you're singing, you're doing whatever you're doing,
and then it goes out to the world and you

(40:24):
still have it and nobody is still go you know,
you don't get any feedback, You don't get any you know.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
That is why I enjoy going to some.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Of the comic cons and you know, because you'll see
and you know, like I've been very blessed. You know,
between Winnie the Pooh and Tigger and different ones, Ray Princeton, Frock,
they have touched people in very deep ways. And a
lot of times, you know, the husband will be standing
there and his wife will be she's just a puddle,

(40:56):
and I go, oh, hi, hey, you know, know, what
are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
He goes, she's really excited to maetcha.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
She's really a big Winn the Poof and over here,
I can tell you.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
It never gets old.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
And yeah, no take that for granted.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Like no, no, no, you never take it for granted.
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (41:17):

(41:38):
slash Jim Cummings podcast. Do it now.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
I get some great wives coming to me like, uh huh,
he's back there. But he's always really loved Meg. Like,
would you say huh? I'm like, okay, I like a
guy who likes a tough girl.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
I like, and you were Meg there for a second.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I could see the hair.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
The hair was way out there.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
You were almost got major. I hope she's a good chiropractor.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah yeah, she said, yeah. Oh god, that's just really
yeah right And.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
So funny my friends, you know, I do all this
live theater that's like physically actually me, and but when
my friends se release, they're they're like, uh, they're like,
Susan is the first thing we actually recognize you. And
they're like, it doesn't look anything like you, but that's
my friend, Susan. I like even the stuff of like
you know that all that they capture, you know, they

(42:35):
feel me while you're doing it. I'm like, but then
they exaggerated. Ken Duncan was the animator. I'm like, oh
my god, he's such a great sense of humor, Like
he just nailed like the you know, like all the
eye rolls and all the Yeah. Yeah, I'm blown away
by animators.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah. Oh god, yeah me too. Well I did Ray
and Princess and the Frog and ray. H. Well, thank you.
I'm glad. I'm glad you had that noble man with
a big bag poach.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
My thing is like, where did you get this accent?
Like it's your creole accent, but it's it's.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Well, what is this? Yeah? I well, I when I
was a kid, I moved to New Orleans right out
of high school, and uh and I lived. I lived
there for a long time. I had a house sold
it I don't know, maybe twelve years ago and out
your point anyway, I was a deckhand on a river
boat for I always wanted to do that.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, well, like.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
You have this firsthand knowledge of like oh yeah, y
within you you didn't have to go out and figure
out that.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
No, I mean I was on boats that where I
was the only one for whom English was their first language.
They're born in Louisiana, but.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
But uh but not America, you know, they were born in.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
And uh you know that that that letter from them
teenage mute Ninja was like that goad there you get
your bad badgery and you'll get your ad back your ball.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well, I'm trying to tell.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
You, and I said, I'm so sorry, what did you say?
And that is a character named Leatherhead. Just for the record,
his real name is Leon LeBlanc. He was from Napoleon VI,
and maybe his grandkids are watching this. I always say this,
you know, I've quoted him a few times, and Leatherhead

(44:21):
from Ninja Turtles is really just that guy. Yeah, you
know I've done that with my with my my uncle
Sam a couple of times too, God rest his soul.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
And you know you steal these little.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Things from here and there, and you know the Cajun accident,
loud of paper, thank you talk like gumber pile. No,
not even not even a little, not even a little,
but so ray you know he did come out from
down down dad by you like that. Yeah, you see me.
It's a good time.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
And some some for some reason or another, the a
lot of Cajun guys. What I'm going to do with you?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
That falsetup?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Where the hell did that come from? You know? Because
this guy weighs four hundred pounds.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
And so it's amazing what you have this. You have
this pocket, this corner for every single one of your characters,
and you can literally turn a flip the switch and.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Jump into that.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, well I'm sure you have something.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Don't have as.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Many as you've got. And then and then sometimes I'll
do things like I'll have this whole idea of what
I want to do and they're like, can you just
sound like Meg? I'm like no, all right, and you
look like right, you've already into it because Meg is
actually where my voice sits. Like that's you know all
that first thing I taught my kids was sarcasm. You know,

(45:41):
could your room be any messier? And like at too
and through they're like you want it to be? Yes,
I wanted to be messier. Could you take longer too?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Four or five?

Speaker 4 (45:50):
They're like you're being.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Done?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yes, God terrible parenting.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, yeah, but interesting kids.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
They are interesting kids.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
They're cool kids. Interesting kids. Oh that's funny.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Are they Are they in any danger of following in
your footstore?

Speaker 4 (46:08):
No, they know, they have no desire.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
No.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
In fact, there was no musical theater until Hamilton came out.
Then Mom, there's this musical called I'm like, I know,
I know the people in it. I know they're like
you know those but I'm like, yes, I know this show. Yeah.
But but they also are amazing and supportive and and
love all those perks of going to the parks and

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jumping on the cruise ship and all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
So yeah, that's great, that's not bad.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Yeah, and they have lots of friends who do plays.
But as my sister, as my daughter Nina says, and
her sister are like, you know, oh, Mom, we don't
hang out with the Thespians. They're so weird. I'm like,
oh my gosh, that's literally. MEM's like literally that's what
they birth the.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, but you should do boys.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
They keep me in my place. It's humbling in a
really good way, in a tumbling it's a humbly tumbly. Oh,
it's humbling. It's you know, parenthood is a really good
ego check.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, well, I yeah, I I've
had that a few times with my kids over the years.
My when my career was first going, it was I
was dark Wing Duck and Winnie the Punt Tiger, and
my oldest daughter would have a friend come over to
the house for the first time, and this is my dad,

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and don't to any voices.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Please, don't any voices.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
And I'll go what But and their friends sit there going,
I know, right, they're waiting, you know what. Oh brother,
just like you know, and you know, you just have
to you have to feed the beast.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
It's great a little bit listen. That's part of the
joy of parenting kids. Yeah. Yeah. My husband always wanted
to like drive up to the school, roll down the
way to say, Nina, is that the boy you like?
Is it that way? That's just terrible. If she doesn't
clean her room, it's like, you know, I know what
I'm gonna do. Tomorrow's pain, dark Wing Duck.

Speaker 7 (48:15):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
When there's trouble, you called deep w That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Don't you forget it.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
You called deep Wing. Yeah, we do. In the Disney
eighties and nineties celebration and concert. We do a Disney
Afternoon medley that was arranged by Dieke Sharon, who does
all the really cool a cappella arrangements in the music industry.
He's pretty incredible. Yeah, So it's everything. It's like Chipandell

(48:40):
Rescue Rangers. It's like it's all these really those songs again,
like sophisticated, really good music.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
I like that about Disney. They don't there it's yea.
I don't want no shame on anybody, but it's like
it's not Barney, like they write sophisticated stuff, which, by
the way, all this Warner Brothers cartoons did too, I
mean all the classical music and Bugs Bunny Carmen, you know,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Opera and I agree.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
So, yeah, those are great theme songs.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Well, Disney, they came out within an album of.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
And I guess it. I think I sold like fifty
thousand I think I got.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
But it was all theme songs. It was all when
there's called w you know, and Chip, as you said, Chippindale,
wheel Wheel and Google.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Troop Yeah yeah, Nasty Windy after yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yes, and uh and I myself and Ed Gilbert. We
were Blue, God rest his soul. He passed away. Now
I'm Blue and Louis and we did those songs together.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Frands for Brands for Life, all kind of trouble and
trouble and strive. It was, yeah, gosh, do.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
You just have an you can just like, Okay, now
I'm gonna be a bilue, like do you have to
study what some of these guys did before? Like, well, okay,
so here's a question for you. So Disney Character Voices
brought me in to see if I could match to
Page for voice of Bell, like I did a lot
of like the toys that sang and stuff. I did

(50:26):
well for that, but but then ultimately so well she
she was, she sang forever and she's she's a Broadway
out but she stopped, you know, she stopped. She stopped
doing the voice of Bell. She's doing all of her
art of Belle, which is.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
She's amazing, friends, amazing.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
But anyway, so I had to go and audition, and
I'm I couldn't capture what page like, Page is very
Judy Garland to me, like you know, the beast is
there and you know if it's like but then I
go too far to Judy Garland and they're like, it's
not Judy Garland. I'm like, no, it's Paige O'Hara. But
I don't have that. I don't have that knack that
you have, like you just said, up right into these
different sounds.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Well, I never now, I can't now, I'll never be
able to do it again. Yeah, no, yeah, I well,
for what it's worth, I think of it as sound first,
when when you know, because every now and then someone
asked me to do a like a little seminar or
you know, sit in and do a course, and and

(51:22):
I think of it as sound first whenever you're you're
doing it. And I always tell people, if you know,
if you clear your throat, if you cough, if you
you know, burb, I don't know, you know, do something
cry laugh, it has to sound like that character, you know,
do it start from there, because then you can sneak

(51:44):
in the side door perhaps, you know, if you sound
like blue laughing. Now I have a bur in my throat,
but oh no, but it's just one of those things
that you can kind of sneak in. And if you
can sound like them snoring or sleeping or you know that,
then you can you find it, Yeah, you find it.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
From the side door. I love that.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, and it seems to work, you know. Steve Bloom said,
that's a good one. I'm gonna write that down.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
So I guess I found that that.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
It was disconcerting at the very beginning when I was
doing mag just knowing, like, I'm so used to being
a stage actor where you really have your gestures and
your facial expressions, and I have to infuse all of
this into my voice. And then I realized, because no
one's going to see my face. And then I realized, honestly,
past the tenth row, nobody can see my face. And
I thought, and so everything I learned in voiceover about
adding expression just audibly like then transferred over to my

(52:39):
you know, because nobody's seeing your face of the Hollywood Ball,
your face is as big because you know, so yeah,
so just infusing emotion. I try and make lyrics when
I talk to series that I go, try and make
it on a monopoetic make it sound like what it is.
Do you know, if you're saying the word love, like,
infuse it with what love is, and you know, all

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of those kinds of things, which isn't necessarily a voiceover thing,
but it's but a singing thing.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah that is. Yeah, sure is.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
To go from just singing a melody to like interpreting
a lyric. Yeah, but yeah, voiceover was great training ground
for that. I'd love to do more of it. Yeah,
I don't do as much now.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah, well there's not. It seems like things are a
little weirder now. I don't know if it's COVID or yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
I think I think it's a book when you went
into a room to audition, because I'm pretty decent at
taking directions, so like if you know, so you know,
you have to guess. Yeah, I go, hey, would you
like anything different or anything?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You know?

Speaker 4 (53:38):
And then they would tell me and then I could adjust.
But now I just feel like in my little recording
device at home, like you're just guessing what they want. Yeah,
I know what they want.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I know. I was so sad when they started doing
all these self tapes because I always felt like I
carried like a presence in an audition room, you know,
like you do people like feel me like that's all right,
I can like translate this energy right to you and.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
You can also read them and adjust, right.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like the self tapes, Like we've talked
about this so many times on this podcast, but like, yeah,
the self tapes is just for me. You fall into
the trap too of like oh I can do this
again and again and again and again and again, and
oh I could tweak this part, and all of a sudden,
you're doing an audition that should take five minutes for
an hour. You know. It's like, oh God, well that's.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
The thing too. And I don't know if you find
this too, but even with the voiceover ones I do,
I'll do like twenty, I'm like, I'll listen back. I'm like, oh,
I could do that better. And honestly, the first one's
always the best one.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
I know.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Yeah, there's just something about it. You can never capture it.
In fact, yeah, my audition for Hercules, Thanks for everything, Hurt,
it's been a real slice like that became her line.
So I finally get the job. It's a year and
a half later. I'm in the booth. They're like, okay, Suez,
we really want you to capture like what you did
the audition. So they played me I audition back. I'm like, oh, yeah,
no problem. Well thanks for everything, Hurt, it's been a

(54:55):
real It's like they're like, yeah, not quite, like list
listen to it again for like twenty minutes. Then Shohn
and Ron, the two nicest guys, they're like thanks, thanks
so much like that. But then no, no, no, they're like, okay,
thanks and I so knew, like I did not give
them what they wanted. They wrote software to eliminate the

(55:19):
traffic noise from New York City from my audition tape,
and they used my audition in the movie the scene
where Herk meets Meg scene right after yours. Well, thanks
for everything, Kirk. It's been a real slize, you know,
wonder boy, that whole scene is my audition, which I
say because either I'm such a great actress i nailed

(55:40):
it the first time, or I'm such a crappy actress
that I couldn't do it again.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Oh yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
There.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
But but to what you were saying, Chris, like, it's
walking in the room and you can't get they're not
gonna get as good of actors or performances with self
tapes as they would in the room because part of
what this is is the interaction, and it is the energy,
and it's like there's something interesting about this guy right now,

(56:08):
we're all in a vacuum.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yeah, and especially with like beginning actors too, Like I've seen,
I've seen on a couple occasions, you know, somebody who
gets cast and then they show up on set and
it's like like deer in the headlights, you know, it's like, oh,
everybody's watching me now, and like they can't do what
they did in the audition right exactly, and it's like okay,

(56:31):
and then it gets awkward, you know, and then they're
getting in their own head, you know, and then they
can't you know, it's all bad downhill from there.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Yeah, and I don't know, how did you find It's.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Really hard, you know, you feel bad for them.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
It's yeah, you like, how did they find Tom Hanks?
And it's like Boozo and Buddies. This guy just walked
in the room and there was just something about him,
like that's right, that have been true on a self tape.
I don't know that, you know.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, do you have do you have any memorable experience
from on stage and an audience member like something like
stuck to you from that?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I mean, there's every audience has its own personality, so
like the the the most important character in any play
is that day's audience. And different audiences at different times
of day have different personalities. You know, whether it's a
Wednesday matinee and they're mostly older, or you know, whether
it's a weekend or whether it's a Friday, they've worked
all week, they had too much a drink at dinner,
and you know they're a little you know, So every

(57:27):
audience has its own personality. I do love when I
catch the eye of somebody. So there's there's an actor
named Brian Stokes Mitchell who's a big famous Broadway actor. Yeah,
me too.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
He was a California raisin.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Oh my gosh, he was a California raisin.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I was the lead singer and he was he was stretched,
he was a yeah, he was that other guy.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
He is a gem and great guy, great guy, and
I've gotten to work with him a lot. And like
way early days, he was doing I don't know, doing
Jolly's Last Jam or something. I was doing beating the Beast.
We were anyway, we were in long running shows, and
so we formed a little theater company together of just
actors that were in long running shows and we would
read new scripts on Monday nights and like try and

(58:10):
give new playwrights stuff, and for us it was just
to keep things flexed and stuff. Anyway, so I've known
it forever. So I was doing a play called Triumph
of Love, and my first entrance it's all, you know,
his whole opening number leads up to this entrance, and
I come through a trap door right at the foot
of the stage. And Broadway houses are very very small.
They're not these big theaters that people are used to hear.

(58:30):
They're very intimate, and so I, you know, this whole
song ends and and I pop out and Brian is here,
like in the foot row center seat. Literally I could
kissed him six inches in front of me, and it's
like it threw me so completely, and he's he's like,
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
He's just looking at I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
I'm like, you know what, I move on. But that's
the one that makes me laugh the most. It's like,
I just I will never forget that. But like what
you were saying about, I moved on because you do,
because like because there's no second take. But he was
mortified the entire play because he was literally in the lights.
He was so close to the stage, like you know,
he was in the spill, and.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
It's like so so oh god.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
You know, they got yellow dress. So the yellow dress
they made for me was like forty five thousand dollars.
It's in the Smithsonian Museum, Like it was more than
I made that year, you know, that yellow dress, and
it was spectacular. And then the way they built up
the muse, da dad da, you know, and I walk
out in a yellow spotlight, so it's even more yellow
in these I'm super yellow in this big, huge dress

(59:42):
that every little girl wants to wear. That like what
a joy that anhold work costume. And I just you know,
it's show nine hundred and forty two, and I and
Terry's yawning in the west wing as the beast, like,
you know, we're just another mattenee. Even though I never
felt shows like that, I always went out in front
of the theater before the show would start with my Starbucks,

(01:00:03):
and I would watch the little girls coming in. It
would make it so personal. There's no way to phone
it in right anyway, Yeah, I come out in that
yellow dress, but in this but every little girl was
in their yellow dress, you know, from the Disney Story
the audience, so that's they'd slept in it, you know,
it was in towers, but boy, they felt amazing. And
on this particular day, Terry's up there with Gary Beach
and Keith Cogsworth and Lumiere and I come out. Missus

(01:00:25):
Potts is down here with Chip and I come out
down in this music swells and the you know, swags
going on, the yellow dress and the little girl tenth
Row just yells. Everybody's so quiet, you know, she looks
just like me. Oh, it was like it was the
greatest moment in my performance career because if you ever

(01:00:46):
wanted to know why you were there, and everybody in
the audience felt the same way. We all left. Terry laughed,
Missus Potts left like the whole play stopped. Yeah, and
we just were like we were all in the room together.
There's you know, fifteen hundred people there, there's fifty of
us on this stage and we're all sharing in that moment.
Its like that is what you don't like. That is

(01:01:07):
that is live theater and that's precious felt beautiful and
she was and bless her parents for just supporting that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
You know, wow, yeah, yeah, no, Case and things like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
That would happen that I just loved. Little girls would
talk to me, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I'm working, Yeah, yeah, yeah, give me a second. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Every now and then you can see a little bit,
you know, swagger.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):

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slash Jim Cummings podcast Do It Now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
I was recording Meg when I was doing Beauty in
the Beast here in l A. And Alan Mankin came
to the show and he's also really nice guy, and
he came back in remission he was really really mad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
He's like, you have to stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
I've never seen him mad like that was so interesting.
Why are you so mad? He's like Meg, Megan, I
had been recording all days like Mega slipping into your
boll and it's like you keep waiting for you to
like jut your hip out and tell the beast a
shave and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Oh, oh god.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Totally, I am being so sarcastic.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
And it's not right, like Meg, Wow, there's at Yeah,
it's not it's not good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
That's not a good bel.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
You don't want to have any Megan your bell.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
No, you don't want any Megan your bell snarky bell,
like nobody wants that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Nobody. Oh god, that's Alan Mankin. Huh yeah, yeah, I
got to. I got to work with him a few times,
you know, on on Poke.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Oh my gosh, you know I was. I was singing.
I was singing nice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Yeah, So that was that was my baptism of fire.
And I remember when he when he played as a
river cuts his path, the rivers proud. I remember I
almost cried.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
It was so good. It was so I said, this
isn't and this is going to be in a movie.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
I said that music.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
You know, this is a hymn. It's a hymn. It
is it's not a it's it's not a song. It's
not a it's a hymn.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
There's something. By the way, when when Alan and Stephen
Schwartz work together, I mean, there's nobody is Howard Ashman,
Like we all miss Howard Ashman for sure, but there
is a friendship between Alan and Stephen that is so powerful.
And I feel like Pocahontas and Hunchback are two of
the greatest scores. Hunchback's in opera. I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Really like, oh god, it is look at the opening.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Yeah, yeah, And there's something easy. I want to ask
Steve and I go, what's a blue corn moon. He's like,
I have no idea. I just had it sounded good.
I'm like, oh my god, Like these lyrics are phenomenal,
you know, and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
And I and and of course you know I've worked
with both of them, you know, Stephen and Alan, and
we're doing this and I've told this. I don't think
I've told it on the podcast, but you just kind
of jogged my memory. They were still writing it. Uh savages,

(01:04:39):
savages barely even human savages, savage.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Killers at the core.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
And and I was Powatan and uh and kakata I
sang for both of them, both of the Native Americans.
So I really liked that when they sold those albums anyway,
he said knowingly, no, but it's they I said, what

(01:05:07):
how we were talking about doing it? And and he goes, well,
it's going to be better, better anyway. It's going to
be sandwiches, sandwiches, send out Phyllis newm and sandwiches, sandwiches.
I'll have tuna alba kor and and I said, what
what are you doing? Goes, well, I haven't got the
words yet, so we're just filling in and we're going sandwiches, said,
which is I would like this tune tuna alba kor

(01:05:34):
and I still want my ham on, right, it's said wiches,
and I go, So this is how you win Academy Awards. Huh,
this is where oscars come from.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
That's don't know how the sausages made.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Yeah, we did not not want to know how the
sausage is made. Yeah, but but you know, him and
the Sherman brothers. I'm blessed to work with those guys,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Yeah, it was it was fun. It was interesting with
Beauty because Howard had already passed away, and it was
you know, and and the play is an hour longer
than the movie. You know, we've got an act too,
so it's like it goes from ninety minutes to you know,
two and a half hours. And yeah, of course, yeah,
and and so there's all this music that was like

(01:06:22):
in Howard's Trunk that hadn't been put in the movie,
and so just bringing some of that back in or
then like the new songs that Alan would write with
Tim Rice. Tim was notoriously late with his lyrics, so
we always had these dummy lyrics to rehearse with that
weren't It wasn't as good as Sandwiches. Sandwiches Bringing Phyllis Newman.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Wasn't that good.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
But Alan had the lyrics that were pretty great that
I'm like, Alan, why don't you just write your own lyrics?
Like his lyrics were fantastic, like his own lyrics. But
he's like, he's like, I like to collaborate. I get that.
That makes sense. You want to bounce things off of people.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah I could see that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Yeah, you played the lead and thoroughly modern Millie for
some time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
How long did that go?

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
For everything today? That went on? I don't know, six months,
I guess I did that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
That's a great play, which sounds like a.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Long time, but it's like for a broad rider, it's like, nah,
that's a short gig.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
That was really really fun. So something cool about that
one was I was I was doing cabra, I was
playing Sally Balls, and I literally closed cabaret on Sunday
and I started Million Monday. And they have the same haircut.
That's about it. It was like totally different characters. But
the thing was so I'm irish, you know. And so
obviously my grandfather had a pub, like because we're drinkers,

(01:07:37):
and so it was up in Carmel. He had a
pub called Whitney's and my grandmother would play piano at
the pub and he'd be behind the bar. And they
had became really good friends with these two people who
would come up lots of weekends and just hang out
and Carmel to golf and they would hang at this
pub and it was Frank Sinatra and Jimmy Van Howson.

(01:07:59):
Jimmy was a song and they became really really good friends.
In fact, like you know, they've got all this Frank mcbileia.
In fact, my dad got my mom to go out
on a date with him because Frank got them tickets
to his Vegas show and got to go backstage and
meet like Uncle Ray.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
But anyway, but Jimmy van Heusen, who was just you know,
drunk at my grandfather's bar a lot. I wrote the
music to thoroughly modern Millie, like probably on a cocktail
napkin in that bar. And so to get to you
know what, sixty years later be on a stage and
sing his music and just knowing like, oh, there's this
little connection there was was pretty cute. Yeah, pretty cool.

(01:08:34):
Billy's a lot of fun because she's it's just a
it's a Valentine to New York City. It's all dancing,
it's all candy colored, like, it's all it's all feel good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
It was really really modern Milly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
She is thoroughly modern, don't you know?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Thoroughly modern? Yeah, my gosh. And and that that was
how many years ago?

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
That was a while ago? That's twenty years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Now twenty years Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Like that goes like that. Yeah, two thousand and four,
isn't that crazy? See two thousand and four does not
seem twenty years ago, does it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
No, Well, it's twenty one, that's what's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Math.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
I can only count eight.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yeah, yeah, well I can only count to twenty one
if I'm naked. But I'm fun. Okay, don't think about it,
don't think about it. Don't think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Okay, I just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Ran into the gutter, so good voice.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Did you ever do any did you ever do any
of the Miyazaki movies?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
What did you do?

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
I did? Oh? No?

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Wait, no, no I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
I when you've done so many things, spirited away? I
did spirit it away away?

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Yeah that was you, not me?

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Sorry, no, no, that's I've only done five things in my
always have a career. You've done a bajillion things that
I don't even know how you remember them all? And
also can we talk? Obviously checks that come that are
less than the stamp it took to send them, Yes, just.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
For the records. Just volunteered and they wouldn't listen to me.
I told Barry donated back when he was Yes, uh huh,
I said if you and I said, we can make it.
How about a buck to cut off? If there's something
for five bucks? Sentence, sure, I'll take it. What the hell?

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
The woman at my bank loves me because she's like,
it's literally one penny. It's literally one penny that I'm
bringing in. But here's and I'm sure people's Are you
familiar with it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Oh? Yes, I do know residuals.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Yes, yeah, yeah, you get a free drink, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
You take it in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
And I've had four checks for zero dollars and zero cents?
Are you because it was time to pay me, but
they didn't know me anything, so they paid me nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
And I'm sitting here thinking like, okay, our health insurance
is bankrupt. Is like if you if everybody just donated
their underdollar checks today, like we would pay for everything
and they would call. Now people would have used that
and make divide up your payments to make them all
under a dollar. But I do laugh, like every time
a SAG check comes, you know, I'm like, okay, guys,

(01:11:10):
what is it going to be like? Because you never know,
might be a really good one, could be usually not.
But okay, but some of these things are you know?

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Well mine are just like direct.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Deposits, so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
I just like getting the paper now it makes me
laugh at Yeah, should do direct pons.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
I heard you get residuals for a movie that you
weren't even in.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
That's correct, I do. And in fact, I just got
a fan letter for somebody who like I loved you
in Galaxy Quest. I go you I don't even know, yeah,
so thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Well you could have been some wonder.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Sure, so I was supposed to right, so maybe, but
then he loved me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
In it something Yeah, okay, what was my favorite?

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
So I was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
Supposed to be like, like the lead alien girl. There's
only one girl alien because all movies like, they're all guys,
one girl. And I got cast in it and and
then Sigourney Weaver was the other lead, and they realized
very quickly we couldn't be in a two shot, like
I'm five to three with shoes on. She's six feet.

(01:12:14):
I'm a size nothing because I'm tiny, and it's like
and she's just like and so they replaced me with
my friend Missy, who's fantastic, who's six feet and hilarious,
and she was great and they run a lot of
two shots and it was great. But when they recast me,
they also changed the name of the character from Teak
to something else. So I'm still listed in the credits

(01:12:34):
as Teak, even though I have a shot a single
day and I get residual. Wow, there you good home related.
I'm like, never shot never. I would have loved to.
Oh my gosh, I think that movie's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Yeah I do too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah, it was really interesting, and I love the way
it ends at a comic con.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Oh my gosh, I know. Okay, so I have a
tree of a script that will never see the day
of light because you can't possibly do it. But it's
called it's it's called the con, right, you know, it's
and it's just about just everything comes together at a
comic con where you've got like your A listers, Like
I remember being there and like Jason Momoa walks.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
And I'm like, oh, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
And then also it's like us who are like, you know, no,
he really knows who I am. And then it's like
all the people who used to be famous who are
now like a little like you like, yeah, yeah, it's
a little sad. And then and then they're excited to
sort of be the center of attention again. But then

(01:13:40):
also like you'll see them like clamoring with the A listers.
I'm like, oh, don't work so hard, you know. Meanwhile,
everything's in cash. I'm like, there has to be a
money laundering situation here, Like there has to be something here.
And meanwhile, so I had this whole idea where like
even like but it would mean everybody had to be
in the movie, like it has to be Robert Downey Junior,
it has to be Tori Spelling, Like, who's gonna get that.

(01:14:02):
Maybe John favrou could like call in all of those favors,
But I don't even know how you would get all
these brands and like Disney to agree with Sony to
agree with you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Like just all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
We'll get ditty on it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
So we'll just get the moon this movie, because I
just thought it would be so funny if if it's
just a con is actually happening at the con while
everything's going on and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Be a real con job.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Yeah it would. But then like also, like like Taylor
Swift is there competing in the Taylor Swift look alike
and she comes like in fourth and so she's just
wandering around with her popcorn and nobody pays it to
so it's like the only time she can be normal
because nobody thinks it's actually Taylor Swift. They just think
she's cosplaying. And like, but just at the end of
the movie, she sees Beyonce across the room and it's

(01:14:49):
like they just you know, nod to each other, like yeah,
it's the only day we get to be normal. Yeah,
I think cons are the most bizarre place.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
And then the whole idea of the screenplay was that,
you know, all the celebrity people, the people on our
side are the dufices, and it's actually when the con
actually happens and like the the crime is about to
take place, it's the fans that are the smart ones
that save the day, because that is they are, Yeah,
the smart ones.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
I always said, like like how you said how everything's
cash and like the people have their cash bags like
just right there. It's like there, how has nobody been
like you know what, We're going to get like ten
people together. We're going to all dress as stormtroopers and
we're going to rob these people. You just run into
a crowd and then it's like find the stormtrooper and

(01:15:40):
it's like you don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Who anybody is because they're dressed as.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
V or you know, like I don't know there were
eight batmen here?

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
There are? And then imagine the you know, the the
trial of like trying to explain this to anybody who
hasn't been there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Yeah, for some reason, I'm picturing them still in costume
at the trial, but.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
So funny.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
And then and then I just wanted like the Radcliffe
to be outside and nobody believes is Daniel Radcliffe, so
he never actually gets inside. They're like, you're not even
a good Harry Potter, Like you don't even look like them,
you know. It's like literally Daniel Radcliffe.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah that good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
There's a weird world.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
I go to these cons with Tate, usually take Donovan,
who is Hercules, because we just find like we do
better we're together, right, and we just sit there like
this is the weirdest place. But not because of the fans,
the fans we love, but like the weird hierarchy of
just like it's like an African Savannah and we're all

(01:16:43):
at the watering hole world.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Oh god, we're all at.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
The Yeah, it's ben a fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Oh god.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
One of the weirdest things I experienced, Like we started
this podcast on the road. We actually talked about it
in Tampa Bay. Yeah last year, two years ago. Yeah, anyway, anyway,
one of the weirdest things is like the green room
like clickiness, That's what.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
It's like, oh and then you know you'll have like
the A listers and the voice over Temple and like
you know, oh those people worked on a show together,
and then you have Shatner in the corner, always alone
on his phone, but he is always there, always there,
always very to himself.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's so wild.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
I remember, like Tom Holland was there and my daughters
are just huge fans, and I wanted to say that,
and he's just like it was not having it. Which
I don't blame him, like, I know, he's a really
nice guy, but you know, I think you're just glombed
onto and it's such a weird vibe. But it's fun
as the voice of artist because we're not expecting anything.
And then it's fun to be with the princesses because

(01:17:49):
we just call ourselves the Menopause Group, you know, like
we're just it's Linda and Larks, you know, it's Paige
and Jody and me or like we don't tell ourselves serious.
Anica maybe like she's never there, Anka maybe like me, No,
she's never there, Like, yeah, we're not cool enough for

(01:18:11):
those girls. Yeah, Anica does D twenty three. I love Anica. Yeah,
but yeah, I've never seen her at a con.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Oh yeah, well I've only seen her at.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
The twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Yeah D twenty three. Yeah, now, that you mentioned it
even if a squad.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Yeah, and even in the Princess franchise, there's a hierarchy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Yeah, every time I've seen it, there was like.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Susan, you need hair and makeup. I go, will not help, Like,
I just know, I don't. I don't want to sit
in a chair like I'm no. Yeah of that, but
it's but I don't, you know, But they're great. We
had a fun Princess panel a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Yeah, yeah, twenty three.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
We had a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, well I like doing those. I
guess now that COVID's over, we're all bad.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Yeah, that was a weird navigation. That's where Jody helps me.
Jody call, which's like, Okay, what are we doing about
this con next weekend? I go with COVID, I go,
I don't know. There's no rules, nobody has told us
what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
I don't know, Like, really, is that plexiglass going to
do it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Yeah, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
How about how about when when there was the strike
and certain actors wouldn't wouldn't sign their photos. Yeah, they
would be at the convention, but it'd be like I'm
not signing anything with that cartoon because that would be
you are.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
Punishing a fan who, by the way, is spending money
they shouldn't be spent. Because the truth, the truth is
people you meet me a stage door, I sign it
for free. Like I don't, you know. It was hard
to convince me to start that anyway, but but I
get it. But it's but it's a thing and everybody's
you know, and it's one stop shopping. It's really fun
to see everybody ever's dressed up. I love the atmosphere,

(01:19:50):
but me to but yeah, that whole thing with the strike.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Oh that was such a pain in the ass for
the podcast too, because people were like, yeah, I'd like to,
but like I don't think I can can, and like
I couldn't talk about anything that I've done, and it's like, yes, Cam,
so we're talking about And I was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Very precious with it, very precious.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
We were writing a show for the bull right during
that strike, which was it's not union affiliated the ball
as far as writers, so it's like it was okay
to write this show. But our actors were singing music
with the animation behind him for all these movies against
a you know, Disney being you know, well, you know,

(01:20:32):
are we promoted? Is that promotion? Like that was the
whole thing. You couldn't promote movies for any studio that
hadn't signed the deal, And it was all this just
stupid stuff of like is this show even gonna happen?
So we were celebrating one hundred years of Disney animation,
so you know, nineteen twenty three to you know, twenty
twenty three. Yeah, and we didn't even know if it

(01:20:54):
was going to happen, and we just had to sit
and wait and watch and know that like, Okay, we're
not the first bull show the summer that has a
movie involved, so we'll watch and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
But I remember the day. I remember the exact minute
that the strike ended because we were doing the podcast.
We were over at the w Hotel in Hollywood, Yeah,
and we had a suite. We were doing the podcast
in there, and Zachary Levi was coming on and we're
sitting at the bar. We're having a drink up at
the rooftop. He comes in, he sits down, has a drink,
and then he pulls out his phone. He's like, oh,

(01:21:24):
the strike just ended. Oh perfect. I can talk about
whatever now. That was all right perfect?

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Oh wow, yeah, that's right. I remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Yeah, that was a good day. It was one of
my favorite days on the podcast. Yeah, Ron Pearlman, Yeah,
Barry Gordon, Ron Pearlman, Zachary Levi, and Jess Harnell all
in the same day.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Okay, just another one who's done everything. Yeah, literally everything.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Yeah, he's great. He's an old buddy of mine.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
I've done some of those.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Most amazing singer on the planet.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Is that right? Oh just looks like it just looks
like he belongs in Nashville.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah, yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
He does such a good cover for him. Journey.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
I want to say, oh, yeah, I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
They're doing this like have you ever seen the Twisted Tunes,
you know how they do like the scripts with the
I've done with Yeah, yeah, and they're playing this song
and it's like a medley, like mash up, and I'm like,
I never knew Journey did this, Like what in the
World's like, that's not Journey, That's that's Jests. And I
was like, no, no, I'm I'm pretty sure that's that's Journey,
trust me, that's Jess.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
No way, I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Yeah, yeah, right, turning. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Yeah, they sang in the Abbey Road last year. Jess, Jim,
do you record Ron.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Well, we did the same thing to beat We were
sang Beatles songs.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Yeah, we really did.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
I was John John Yes, if you were read to Night, Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
It was great. We had just an absolute ball.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Oh my gosh, that piano is still there, Yes it is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
And I I I played all over it. I touched
every key, every every I was running around just.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
You know, did you annoy all the people driving.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
To do it? And and and we were all being
very cool and just are now Rob Paulson, myself, you know,
Peggy was there, your mom.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
It was just it was just a magical day. And
halfway through, you know, you're you're there, and you you're
you're just kind of and I wasn't trying to be cool.
I wasn't trying to be anything, but I was just
trying to Okay, well, we're later on, we'll go to
this convention in a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
And now we're here at Abbey Road and we're wait,
where are we again? Where?

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
And then then you look around and I looked over
and I remembered from Let It Be, the from the
movie Let It Be. John and Paul were sitting on
I think they were sitting next to a stack of
tables and they were all sitting around and Ringo was
over there, and Paul was sitting on a thing and
he had his guitar and John was sitting over here,

(01:24:18):
and I go, that's where he was sitting. No, I
mean that's like actually where he was sitting. This is
They didn't move anything. No, it didn't look like they
moved in And because then you're going back to your
memory bank. John was sitting there, Paul was sitting here,

(01:24:39):
and then it's just and I teared up. I didn't
it snuck up on me. I didn't even know. And
next thing I know, I've got these big tears coming
down my face and I go, is really good, you know?

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
And it just got I mean, they created something in
that airror in that space.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Right there, and you know the damnedest thing is, uh
is you you walk out of that room and they
they they didn't have which I can't believe, but they
didn't have something called an echo plex. When I was
a singer in a rock and roll band, we had
an echo plex and it was the thing that makes uh,
Robert Plant sound like Robert.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Plant way down you know all that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
You know, And they didn't have one that wasn't invented yet.
But you walk into this room and it goes, yeah,
I'm like, like that bad and I'm going, what the hell?
And they go, well, this is where they would come
in and say if she was read to night, And

(01:25:42):
I'm going, wait, the Beatles. So they stood here and
sang those songs and yeah, they just hauled in the
mics from the other rooms because the sound, the bounce
and it and it sounded so good and it was
an organic it was.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
It wasn't auto tuned.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Yeah, you know, no, it was no, it was just real.
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
No, they couldn't belave it. Again, the stars on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
The echo with them heard all that room and it
was just magical. And it was carved out of a
piece of rock.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
It was rock.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
The whole freaking room was a rock. And I'm going,
how could this be? And there were columns, there were
like five foot columns of rock sticking up and I said,
what are these sound baffles? And the guy's going, I guess,
and I go, how could this be you know, let

(01:26:35):
it be hit you see what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
And yeah, but it was that iconic sound.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
There is there's something when you go into a room
that has like the perfect acoustics. Disney Music Hall is
pretty amazing standing center stage and you can just whisper
and you hear it back to yourself because it's like
the acoustics. The room is so tuned so beautifully. Yeah,
the room, the room is they tuned the room.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Yeah, yeah, crazy crazy, Yeah, that's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
That's nice for work if you can get it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Do it now, Well, we have to start wrapping things
up here. But we have a game. Oh you have
a game that we play. Okay, I'm gonna be terrible
voice swap game. Okay, So this is how it will work.
Jim will do one of his voices. Let's let's not
do Actually, I don't know you picked, but say like
Winnie the Pooh will say, you know one of his lines,
and then you'll say that same line, but as Meg,

(01:27:52):
and then we'll do vice versa with another one of
your characters.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
I don't have many, but I can do a little
bell or something like, well, this will be a very
short game.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
We usually like three okay, okay, okay, Now if.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
I shouldn't line yeah, oh nessus he.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Was, uh, hold on, do another one. I'll look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
I like going to remember about Nessa's is Jim Wood's
line of like, no, I'm the river burying less because
you were supposed to be the the river.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Oh yeah, and then I was a Titan too.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
You were one of the Titans? Was the wrong way? Yeah,
I want to be I want them to do a
live action, which I don't think they're gonna do now,
but if they did a live action, I wanted to
be a cameo as one of the fates. I wanted
to be the one that's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Like what happened to these scissors?

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Like I just want to be that girl. Yeah, yeah,
what happened to these scissors.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Hey that's Phills. Boy, Hey that's Phils.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
Like that could be you. You can literally play your
own character.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Yeah, well, let's just do the reverse. So we'll do
Nessa's next, and then we'll use you as the feeder line.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Okay, okay, well here let's see. Well that how about
my other guy.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
Trying to think of the case.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
That I'm moving Barna. I was that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
He was pissed off about something happening, have so.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
Much fun and yeah it was. It was like the
La fires. They were joking. You can't joke about now,
but like an.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Old old codure, that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
Guy, he was great.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
I'm moving Marna. Okay, that's gonna be my line.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Do they just die when they do? I'm not playing
the game very well, so Meg has to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Yeah, so so here, okay, this is the official.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
All right, the official.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
That I'm moving Marda.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Well that does it. I'm moving to Sparta, no murder, Okay,
thank you, that's it. I'm moving to Murlo.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
It was perfect. It was It was like, all.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Right, okay, so I'm going to stick with Meg because
I want to see what one of your characters would
say to I'm a big tough girl. I tie my
own sandals and everything.

Speaker 8 (01:30:14):
I'm a big tough girl. I tire my own sandals
in everything. You got something I can tie up for you?

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
Restraining order?

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Good night everything?

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Why did that? That really reminded me of, like, what
do you Harrelson? For some reason?

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Oh, Harrelson, Harrelson. Okay, take that, Woodie. I don't know
why take that for not being on our podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
We're coming.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
I think it was the head tilt. I think it
was the head tilt.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Yeah, yeah, the stone.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
That's fun about Rose Quartz?

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Well okay, I mean, like you guys don't know Rose necessarily,
she's not as if she's more like, Okay, if I
feed you something, Stephen, you're going to be something extraordinary,
you're going to be a human being.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
How about dark wing, Stephen, You're going to be something
really extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
You're going to be a human being.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Sort of anyway, I kind.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
Of no, it's so good. Those doesn't have a lot
of funny lines. I like the funny ones. Yeah, all right,
how about this?

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Okay, are you ready?

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
I think okay, Oh, isn't this amazing? It's my favorite
part because you will see.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Oh is it. That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:51):
It's my favorite part because you'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
It's a good little part.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Sound Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Your voice is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
I believe you just launched into that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Yeah, I mean, can you say something else? Can you
sing something else for us?

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
At least out loud. I won't say love wow, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Gave you there, so talented.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
No, No, it's just the hard thing with me is like, Okay,
the Miyazaki movies I did, like, first of all, a
lot of my stuff is just really like you know,
or you know, I did spirit it Away, and that's
where they're like, we just want to sound like mag
I'm like, no, all right, everybody sounds.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
The same, and whenever you do that, you kind of
turn into it. I've been enjoying that this whole.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
It's fun. It's fun. I did an episode of Amphibia.
I guess where I got to be m like sort
of like a bet Middler, kind of old Judy Garland.
You know what was her frauder she was, Yeah, she
was just you know, she was like a dang you know,
she just talked like this a lot and everything was

(01:33:17):
like that, you know, Oh yeah, it was like it
was like an ethel Merman. Yeah, she was total ethel Murman.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Yeah, but there was.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
Oh gosh, I love that stuff, that whole style. I
just think I was born Yeah, yeah, I was. I
should have been born in the thirties and forties.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, back when the universe meant something.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Back, yes, back when we wore gloves and really cute
outfits all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Yes, yes, yes, well that was there was a little
Judy Garland in there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
There was my go to like I used to yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah.
I used to entertain our conductor when I was doing Birdie,
you know on shown one hundred and twelve. You know,
I would just start doing the whole show as Judy Garland,
like you, I can't believe you're here, like Mama, or
you add a lateral lisp, and then you've got Liza,

(01:34:10):
like it's just a wonderful idea, just with Z Liza
with a Z bless her.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
She came to see Milly and then she yelled at
me backstage, you're singing that song you got that red
dress on. It's a great and it's a great song,
but you're slouching and I just wanted to stun. Put
your shoulders but I'm terrible saut, so put your shoulders
back and sang it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
I'm like, oh my god, carve that into stone.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
Correct. Yeah, oh man, I bet her mom told her
to stand up straight.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Yeah, I away. You weren't the only one, missy, come
on posture.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Well I had nuns, so I know all about that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Sorry, Yeah, I feel you. I had ballet teachers.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Yeah, same thing, yeah, only different. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you for having me.
I really appreciate it. Thank you, thank you talking too much.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
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We really appreciate you guys as well. If you like
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Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
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Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Please do, please do, really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Once again, Susan, thank you so much for being here.
We'll see you in the next episode.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
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