AEW ALL OUT FALL OUT

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Gentlemen, Welcome to the AEW All Out twenty twenty four
press and media scrum. Sorry for the delay, mister Kahan
needed some alone time in his private restroom located inside
Adam Cole and Britt Baker's locker room after the main event. Now,
please welcome the Savior of Real Pro Wrestling, Tony Cohn.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good to meet wrestle and serve you a he's the Bob. Yeah,
he's tour to't meet co excuse for wrestles folds, and
he might be your drugs. Yeah he's too gurt.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Greetings to fans of Real Pro Wrestling. It is I
the hour of all, the guru of ultra violence, the
hypodemically gums of wrestling, Tony con Now, after the greatest
AEW paid review since our last one, I find myself
completely overcome with emotion. I'm just so excited at the
future of our AW media rights deal. It's an exciting

(01:14):
time to be an AEW fan, and I'm sure you
all have lots of questions about this. So I'm not
bringing out any wrestlers at all, not because Britt Baker
is currently having a broken bottle knife fight with a
Boommec operator.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
In the back.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
But because I know that you all have burning questions,
so please keep all queries based solely around the AEW
media rights deal.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Now we can start with you, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Uh yeah, I have a question about the media rights deal.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Ough man, Guys, you know I can't talk about that.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Well, I'll tell you whatever I can.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, what percentage are you giving us about hearing something
about this deal in the next month.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, it's an ongoing negotiation, so I need to be
careful with how I answer this. I am ten million
percent sure that I'm about to sign the biggest deal in.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
The history of TELEVI and I would stake my life
on it.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
So you've signed it?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, not so much in that I've actually signed anything,
But when I met with David Zaslov assistance assistant to
iron out the details, I could feel the positive energy
flying between us.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Is it responsible as a business owner to tout the
deal you haven't signed yet?

Speaker 4 (02:18):
The hell security seize him?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Tell my story?

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Who's next?

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Yes you, sir, Hi, I'm given name from fake outlet Toney.
I just have to ask, just two weeks removed from
aw wall in, how have you managed to already top yourself.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, the answer to that is simple, my friend. See,
what my poopead competition doesn't understand is how it limits
itself through pointless safety procedures. I mean, these are grown
adults and Jack Perry, They're perfectly capable of deciding whether
they want to risk paralysis in front.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Of the half emp the arema.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Think about this because of the WWE's doctors, we all
missed out on years of Pariah Sting and Daniel Brian
Danielson matches, oh, because they had supposed career ending injuries
that could negatively impact their quality of life for the
remainder of their existence on this planet, which would ultimately
be shortened a great deal by engaging in these actions.
Who am I to police that? If my wrestlers want

(03:17):
to blast each other in the head with chairs completely unprotected,
then who am I ready to stop them? I'll just
lie for them and say if the chair was gimmicked
so that my mindless goober fans eat it up and
go as far as to viciously attack wrestling legends have disagree.
If my wrestlers want to power bond each other on
real cinder blocks, then that's fine. What's the worst that
can happen they can't walk by the time they are

(03:37):
fifty three, I won't have.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Any use for them then.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Anyway, If my wrestlers want to inject hypodermic needles into
one another in the middle of the ring, then who
am I to stop them? They're all just being fattened
up like pigs and slaughter as I offer their broken
souls to my dark Lord and sidr Sock forgotfi un
dying in a blood soak pig and ritual.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Anyway, what huh? Such I mean no for the questions.
Enjoy all wrestling.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I still can't believe I paid fifty bucks for that show. Anyway,
let's get this party started on Tony Talk Wrestling. Please

(05:05):
stop h al right, it is Tuesday night in Tunytown

(05:42):
and that can only mean one thing. It is time
but the fastest rising pro wrestling livestream podcast on the Internet. Today.
It is time but Tuny Talk Wrestling, folks. I'm Marvin
and I am the Movie Monster, and thank you for
joining us again for another great week of wrestling conversation.
Uh straight out of our you know uh our epic

(06:03):
coverage two man coverage was just awful and eye you
know of a w all out just this past week,
and joining me this week is not awful wrestling. He's
actually not here. He's earned a night off after sticking
with me in the trenches for like five hours during
that pay per view. Uh. But joining me this week, folks,
the one and only Sheriff of Tony Town himself, mister

(06:25):
Kevin Apolo Man.

Speaker 8 (06:27):
So yeah, what what awful's on recovery today?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I think he had a little a little too much,
a little too much Elite. He overdosed on elite. It
was a it was a I could not wait for
that show to end.

Speaker 8 (06:42):
But you boys went through.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
We'll we'll get we'll, we'll, we'll go through it, you
know when the time comes. But I felt there were
two There was one good match, there was one really
good match, uh and the rest was all just got
bitch and terrible, terrible things. Also joining us this sweek,
guys from the world of maxed out Media and assorted
lost media projects that he's up to the One and

(07:09):
Only aw Disciplinary Committee aka diss Hi. Welcome everybody. What
is that on your head? Oh? I got new headphones.
Oh I'm saying it like you know, because it's a cartoon.

Speaker 9 (07:21):
But I know then I I got new headphones in
real life, and I decided to get new headphones from
for my avatar too, So very.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Good, very good. All right, So guys, neither of you
will with us for all Out. Have either of you
watched all Out or any of the clips at least?

Speaker 8 (07:40):
Well, the fun of not getting an aw pay per
view is watching the entire thing on Instagram on Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I'm sure I watched it yesterday. Yes, Oh no, so
you watched the whole thing?

Speaker 9 (07:54):
Well, I mean I watched it. You know how you
when you watch an a W pay per view and you're
not doing something for the Internet, you watch it while
you do other things.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
But I right, of course, you know. I hope you
guys enjoyed the cold open with the media scrum. I
did not actually watch the actual media scrum because we
had a whole situation that went down where everybody in
the chat wanted me to watch it and continue to
live stream, and I said, if you get to too,
if you can from this point forward, somebody super chats

(08:25):
two hundred dollars, you guys can get your media scrum.
And they they tried, they were they were like the
vibes were coming in, but they didn't. They they did
not get it, and I had to tell them like, look, guys,
I'm not caving on this, you know. Basically, I said
to them, it's.

Speaker 10 (08:41):
All there, black and white, clear as crystal.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
You get nothing, you lose, good.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Day, sir.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I actually downloaded that clip once I realized that they
weren't going to get to the two hundred dollars, so
I had it loaded it because I was like, oh man,
I was totally gonna do this, but yeah, so I
but I figured that, uh. It was one of those
It was one of those uh tony town segments that
starts with a concept like a what if Like some

(09:13):
of the some of the best episodes of Headlock, Headlines
or The Cold Opens or any of the daily videos
that we do. It starts with oh, look, they're trying
to say in here that I changed the rules.

Speaker 9 (09:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I said, if someone super chat's two hundred dollars, I'd
watch the media scrub. And then they were like, well,
what if we just super chat up to ten to
two hundred dollars between people? I said, Okay, from this point, yes,
you can do that, and they now they want to
try to change the rules when they didn't. Just typical, typical, right.
But anyway, what my, what my my, what if for

(09:50):
this cold open was what if Tony Khan is just
like fattening up his wrestlers to sacrifice to some doc entity,
which is why he lets them just keep doing like
insanely terrible things. So that's how I came up with sagaf,
the undying.

Speaker 11 (10:11):
The habitual line steppers, and I had to go upside
the ass.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
All right, some of you guys are already getting started
with the super chats. Wow, I'm seeing right here. I'm
gonna go a little out of oider just because when
we get a big super chat, I like to acknowledge
it first and foremost, folks, Colin Taylor for fifty dollars,
neither TK nor VKM know how to give people what
they want. If you wanted bad, If we wanted bad
plots and gore, we could watch Saw. If we wanted HLA,

(10:43):
there's the Internet. We watched wrestling for wrestling. I don't
got the synagogue on Fridays. I don't go to synagogue
on Fridays to get my oil changed. A good points,
such a good point it is such a such a
such a good point.

Speaker 9 (10:59):
It really is like the Attitude era and ECW worked
right because it was appealing to twenty somethings and teenagers
who there really wasn't. I mean, the Internet was there,
but not everyone had it, so you got that kind
of dirty stuff when you got to watch that, you know,
ECW and the Edituden era. But now seventeen year old
kids don't go, don't watch TV. They don't care about

(11:21):
this stuff. They're online doing their own thing, and so
there's no real like, oh, aw is the naughty thing
that I can watch?

Speaker 6 (11:28):
Because they can watch whatever the hell they want?

Speaker 9 (11:30):
So what what what void are they filling when they
do that?

Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yeah, the late nineties was a very special time you had.
They watched nights, which gave you side boob oh Z, Stalkings, stalkings,
Boom Doom, Doom Doom, Doom doom doom. You know the
essentially if you watched uh syndicated TV, there was a
there was an endless treasure trove of of of discount

(11:56):
discount been young models to put politely, never forget about Cinemax, Cinmax,
read shoe diaries. There was all sorts of things to
get you in trouble if you were a young man,
and now it's just not there, it's it's pass a no.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
But then on Monday nights we had half Let's be
an action.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
Because you know what, that was almost twenty two years
ago and lasted for four weeks because you know, they
grossly underestimated to the They forgot that the by the
time we got to HLA, you're seventeen, eighteen to nineteen
year olds were in their mid twenties and watching with
their girlfriends who were not going to let them watch anymore.

(12:40):
Or you may have had a very young child and
you couldn't watch. So it came and it went.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, you know, I think that I think that HLA
came at a time in which we were going through rescalation,
which is I had to call the the the phenomenon
where wrestling has to go continue to one up itself
until we get to a logical reset point and not
in terms of like craziness like Mike Foley jumping off

(13:08):
the cell, but this was rescalation in a shock value way,
like the Attitude era had gone on for too long
at this point, and Vince was just throwing every every
insane idea that crossed this insane person's head got on
TV during that time.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Well, even that it's we were done too. It's like
the the ruthless Aggression era was like just kind of
finding itself and like, you know, who needed this anymore?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
The ruth Yeah, ruthless aggression was still kind of attitude
era light at a certain point because they hadn't really like,
you know, Vince still felt that, like, you know, shock
value was the way to go, and you know, he's
a disgusting person, so they continued to be.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
Disgusting once we once we entered the era of pumpando slams.
You were fully you were fully in the ruthless aggression era.

Speaker 9 (13:57):
Yes, yeah, but like you know, the the revealing outfits
and the teasing things and the you know, hinting of
things just doesn't work anymore. Because I tell people all
the time when they post like bikini pictures of women
on Twitter, it's like, I can't wait till you guys
discover the Internet.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
You're gonna go nuts when you find.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
Yeah, it was like, I don't know why I'm always
in trouble someone showing you their actual inwards right now.

Speaker 9 (14:25):
Yeah, It's like if you if you wanted to see
like the if you wanted to see what you saw
on Saturday night, you could see ten times that just
by going to YouTube at this point and looking at
dark videos.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
You know.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
Oh yeah, it's so there's no there's no kind of
like that.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
That winter doesn't exist. You you click the wrong thing
on Twitter or the right thing depending on who you are,
and it's like legitimate porn. Yeah, like Twitter has no
filter whatsoever for that anymore. I don't think I've not
as bad as well, you know, I shouldn't say anymore
because it used to be a lot worse. You to
be like the pinnbots would like spam your anything that

(15:03):
got even slight attention. So yeah, but no, I he
I agree with Colin Tyly. He said in anotherbum for
twenty dollars, the Melatonin Cowboy all but murdered Swerve at
the cluster f called aw all out. How does Swerve
come back from this as someone who can draw? Why
would TK sign somebody then give him the Mohammed Hassan treatment.

(15:24):
So coming back from this as someone who can draw
would insinuate that Swerve was ever able to draw, and
based on the houses that we've been seeing in the
ratings that we've been seeing while he was on top
of the company, Swerve cannot draw. Neither can MJF. Neither
can Jericho, Neither can any of them, because you know,

(15:45):
the numbers are going down, not up. The only time
they went up was when they had cmpunk for a spell,
and even then, by the end of Cmpunk's tenure there,
the numbers were going down. So but yes, I agree
whatever momentum Swerve had coming off the Daniel Bryan Law,
I mean, hang the day flattened him for the sake
of the soy boy cowboy.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
So so here I'll give you a different perspective, and
that's assuming that we do this properly.

Speaker 12 (16:12):
Right.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
So, the part of the problem of going into the
super Rush feud was anybody who was remotely logical was saying,
how on God's green earth am I cheering for Swerve
as the baby face when we just watched him stalk
a family, you know, and threatened to take another man's career,
and then the only reason he did was because it backfired.

(16:34):
In the end, Swerve was very much so the bad
guy his last two his last two feuds.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I mean, that's every a w feud, though we will
go face, he'll face, he'll face, he'll with with no,
it's just depending on the whims of a madman at
that point.

Speaker 8 (16:47):
The so the you know, the Magnum so lote burning
down the childhood home. That well again, I.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Thought, we'll go, we'll get in that later.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
We're gonna yeah, well of him in certain things, the
attempts at, the attempts at to some of the stuff
that they've done. My grievance is that it was verily
poorly produced and done because it sounded like it was
cool and they didn't and they didn't work shop it
to turn into a fantastic moment.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yes, okay, I saw.

Speaker 8 (17:21):
I saw a couple of people lamenting Dave Logreca's meltdown
the other day. But you know, Dave is very passionate,
but you know, his opinion is his opinion, and you know,
we can see it a little differently. But the like it,
it almost worked. It didn't get to yes, you know
what fine, you know, Swerve and and and and and

(17:41):
what's his name page? You know they interested in that.
Few did spike attendance at the last second, but Swerve
getting massacred, getting massacred could be a humorous, humbling moment
he just get out of here, go.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Away.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
The he could be a you know, a humbling moment
where now he comes back and realizes that all the
crappy things he's done over the last year, I'm led
to that moment and now you see the opportunity for
a character change the But that's what a normal logical

(18:23):
booker would do. Tony's probably just gonna let him sitt
off a TV for a couple of weeks, and then
everything's gonna be a you know, everything's gonna be like
never happened.

Speaker 9 (18:31):
Yeah, this past this past week of a w has
been uh all storylines. Actually two weeks have been six
months worth of storylines fast forwarded into two weeks. The
burning the house down moment was a great moment and
professional it really couldn't and if built too properly and
if milked properly, it could have been something really special.

(18:52):
And instead they introduced you to the concept of Swerve's
house an hour one, and they burnt it down an
hour two.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
This thing didn't exist before.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Then.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
There's nothing, there's no emotional attachment to it.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
There's no reason for you to believe, And you know,
if they would have done a thing where Swerve buys
his house and then you find he talks about how
he fixed it up and he's bringing his family, he
gets he gets sympathy before the house burns down. Over
three or four weeks time, he maybe even misses a
couple of weeks because he's off helping his family rebuild
his childhood home. And then you do the house burned

(19:26):
down angle and then who did it? Well, of course
it was hanging Man, but they didn't catch hang Man,
and there's no proof it was hang Man, so they
can drag that out for a couple This is a
long term story that I hate to make the comparison,
but wwe would have booked beautifully over a three to
four month period, and instead they did it in one night.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
One night. It was over a time by the time
they got because I guess they were like, Okay, we've
already feuded these guys for most of the last year.
But I think that by the time you got to
that cage match, what was then left on this earth
for these two men to do to each other? And yes,
the answer was apparently powered bomb each other on a

(20:04):
cinder block and inject hypodermic needles into each other, which
we'll we'll we'll get to in a little bit of Colin,
thank you so so so very much for your generosity
here tonight. We got to play you a clip, uh
for such generosity.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Or I come ding Jung Jung or Gum John wor
in well Hung hum bach too Humbuch war hung undring
John Jun John Gore.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
In thank you, John c I I am planning on
changing up what John Cena says in that every week,
but I did not have time to think of anything
new this week with everything needed to be done. Okay,
so we got a couple more super chests to get too,
John j id nine nine nine check an in for

(21:02):
nine ninety nine. You know it's his namesake. He goes
that AW main event slash. The subsequent reactions from the
dumbest of wrestling fans has one hundred percent turned me
off of AW. Tony has limited money, so AAW has
unlimited money. So AW will go on, but I'm done.
It'll keep on dying and not get fixed. I think
a lot of people probably had that reaction to this

(21:24):
pay per view specifically, you know, like it was pretty
heinous what they've done, and uh yeah. It was to
my point too, where I was just like, what are
you doing? Like, at what point is somebody gonna look
at that injection, uh, the hypodermic needle or the plastic

(21:45):
bag over the head. At what point are you while
you're in a TV negotiation? At what point do you
risk what happened with NWA and the CW, Because I
think putting the bag over somebody's head was way worse
than insinuating that the sinister minister was doing coke.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
Yeah, you know, it's funny. I was in an effort
to be fair. I was racking my brain to see
if something like this had happened in Memphis, and I
was like, if it didn't happen to Memphis, if Lawler
didn't do it, then Sullivan or Funk probably did it.
And I found I found ether, I found I found belts.

(22:24):
You know, we've seen lots of people choked down. I
did not find suffocation.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Reason. For some reason, I thought, I remember, I don't know,
somebody was just joking, but I thought I remember I
had heard that uh Funk had done it to Flair
or something like that, and they both gotten they had
gotten like like in Trouble for It, right.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
Just did you that I did it, but I couldn't
find it.

Speaker 9 (22:49):
I couldn't find it either, And I've heard stories, it's all.
It's been one of those things you always heard stories about,
but I've never actually seen happen.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Honestly. Yeah, it is, and it is one of the
things that somebody pointed out in chat. Okay pointed out
of the chat. The defenders are screaming Terry Funk did
the bag to Rick Flair, but then they both got
suspended and fined. I'm pretty sure the.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
Bag thing is weird for me because I think that
taken a loan as a standalone angle done on something else,
not surrounded by needles and wooden steaks and light tubes
and everything else. If you just took that one incident,
there's there's a safe way to do a plastic bag.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
They didn't do that, but.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
There is a there is a safe way to do
the plastic bag.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
And I think that it made no sense because his
hands were free, just poke a hole in Yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:38):
Yeah, I think we've seen naked gun right.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
Yeah, that's that's John Moxley's jiu jitsu training by the
way he knows how to put holds on people to
restrain them, but we not.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, well he learns all about the holes when he's
tapping out to them from soccer Dad's in the community
Center Saturday.

Speaker 9 (23:56):
But I think there is I think there's a place
in wrestling where I'm not upset with the plastic bag
angle if it's done in a way that makes it
important and individually of everything else. But when you throw
it on a show that has everything else in the
world in it, it means nothing and it's pointless and
it's wasted.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
You know.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
That's that's my opinion on the plastic bag specifically.

Speaker 8 (24:20):
I said this on Twitter when the crowd started chanting
this as murder. You made a mockery of the moment.
And then they made the Acidine decision to say that
due to the graphic nature of the attack, they weren't
going to reshow, and I'm like, well, let's like, let's
be realistic. So we all remember the Nexus attack on Sena.
What most people forget is raw ended. The cameras were

(24:45):
still all That attack happened after the show ended, so
that it made sense that the majority of the wrestlers
weren't there. So I'm going, these guys are turning on
this guy. They're trying to kill him for all intense purpose.
They're trying to kill him. It should have been a
locker room clearing event. So this is how you make

(25:05):
this cool. They they throw the bag over his head,
the announcers start freaking out. Cut the feed, you cut
the visual. You just have the audio of the announcers
talking and being absolutely disturbed, and let them tell you that,
you know, they're not letting the they're not letting anybody
in the ring.

Speaker 9 (25:24):
You can you like, you can even have like Nigel
and like you make You can hear them trying to
get into him and Tony saying get back, you know,
don't get involved or whatever like something like that.

Speaker 8 (25:34):
Yeah, then the freaking locker room needed to empty, and
which time you cut back to the live feed to
show everybody what's going on.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
And then, I mean it wasn't enough that wheel Ayuda
was crying in the corner while Claudio Castigny held him.

Speaker 8 (25:48):
Back, hardly held him back. My my, my, my soon
to be one year old could have broken, could have
broken past Dobby to got into.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, Cizarro hit him with the European uppercut that
Brian subsequently no sold completely before they tried to murder him.
So there's a thousand things you could have done, and
then you could have had Mosley or or or Claudio
or one of the members of the BCC. Had to

(26:22):
take extra time to make sure I say it right
because I always say it wrong. The BCC release fan
footage of the choke out, and now you've created a
super realistic moment where now you want to suspend them
or do whatever, like that's the talk that stops your
crowd from chanting this is murder.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
You talked about the Nexus attack on John Cena. If
you'll recall, during the next attack on John Cena, Daniel
Brian choked choked the announcer with his tie and just
choked Justin Robberts with his tie and got fired.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
And that's what happens when you have actual corporate sponsors.
AW has no sponsors.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
So they've got a TV rights deal that they negotiating.
By the way, a big shout out to produce a
net Beard in the chat, wise man of this podcast,
always doing his own show down there in the chat,
and we love him. This show could not happen without him,
so big shout out to aw Netbeard out there all right.
Coming up next, we've got zero nine Hiccktown for two

(27:28):
seventy nine Canadian AAW was officially GCW or CZW with
a budget sad. That is true. Everything you saw is
something that you would have seen on. At this point,
they've done everything GCW does pretty much. GW GCW is
better right now than AW is. Fight by the thumb tacks,
the light tubes, the pizza cutter. You know, we've seen

(27:51):
it all on GCW and the staples and all that,
which we'll get to it all when we talk about
it all officially. Last called podcast for two dollars What
happens first, AW TV deal or Halloween Tony. Tony was
ninety percent sure that we're going to get an announcement
within the next month, which, by the way, if you've
ever studied business for even a day, you know the

(28:13):
best thing that you could possibly do when in active
negotiation like this for a multi million dollar deal is
go on TV and talk about how sure you are
that this is going to close, because now Water Bros.
Can come back and offer him like half a million
less because they're like, oh, by the way, now you
have to accept or everyone knows you're a liar. Everyone
thinks you're a liar like you put your you know,

(28:36):
and especially after that pay per view, who knows? I
get J eighty one for two dollars. Is mob the
Yeeter Continental Champion might happen? I'll heaven't forbid. Rom Breaking
needs a nice long rain with that, with that belt
I do not need. He needs to chew the USO
up and spin him out, you know, like chewing tobacco.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Jay Usso is bloodline bound.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
He has way more on his plate. They're not gonna
I agree b T twenty three for five dollars. Someone
explained what AEW was doing with the story between New
BCC and Brian and Yudah thought Hangman would take on Brian.
Instead we get New BCC and Moxley wants Dobby.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I have no idea what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
I assumed.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I assume they're going to Moxley versus Daniel Bryan, But
I don't know man who cares? Who cares what Moxley does?
Whatever he does is garbage. Danielson has officially over the hill.
He had the first bad match I've ever seen him
have at that pay per view. He could not he
could not shine crap the way everyone thought he was
gonna do with with Jack Perry. The match was boring

(29:41):
and the end of it was absolutely god awful. So yeah,
you know, and the ref I watch it, Mark Henry,
I don't know, Mark. Mark Henry wouldn't comment on it
because he was gonna get in trouble, and then the
ref got got all up up a Mark Henry about it.

Speaker 9 (29:56):
I helped you travel, I helped you get travel arrangement,
and you're doing.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
You're so nice to me, Mike, I don't do good things.
Why are you pointing out my stupid mistakes?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
A life?

Speaker 8 (30:06):
TV me, me showp idiots.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
This October thirty for one ninety nine. Thank you so much.
This punk versus Drew the story called for it to
be Helen a Cell. I agree. This is one of
those instances, especially with it being the with it being
bad blood, with it being the the twenty fifth anniversary
of the first Helen of Cell match, I think that
this was exactly what needed to happen, with it once
again being a small guy like like Shawn Michael's a

(30:35):
small guy versus big guy with like Shawn Michael's undertaker.
It's perfectly it was. It was too perfect not to do.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
What was in this one little comment about the I
saw a lot of sickos defenders whatever you want to
call him, out there this week saying if you want
to watch two grown men fight over a piece of
beated jewelry, then go watch your kids show.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
And I'm gonna keep watching the show for adults.

Speaker 9 (31:01):
I also want to point out, though, that they started
a feud between Chris Jericho and Orange Cassidy over a
jacket and a backpack, so they can't even use that
as a defense at this point.

Speaker 8 (31:13):
I say this yesterday ae w weirdos. Yeah, and I
thought that this feud was great, So it's not the
I'm not saying that the punk Dru feud isn't working.
So we saw a litany of things like Orton setting
the Fiend on fire. I'm like, you can't use someone
else's bad creative to justify your bad creative. It doesn't

(31:39):
make it any worse than what it was.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's what I say.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
It's like WWE, at the very least has established very
specific ground rules within their product. Supernatural beings like the
Undertaker like the Fiend are akin to horror movie monsters.
So Bray was not in any danger of being killed
by Orton setting him on fire. Somehow he was magically protected.

(32:05):
The it's like the if you're gonna do this, all
you're gonna make me say is yeah, the W had
a bad idea, but it was marvelously produced. You guys
had a bad idea and it was poorly produced, so
it's actually still worse.

Speaker 9 (32:21):
Yeah, and try and how about this, Maybe I can
actually go back and say, yeah, that was pretty bad.
WW has done bad things. Nobody no A that's the thing,
goes back and says aa W was bad. No one
will ever say something that happened in a W was bad.
They have to say everything is good all the time.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
And I know and you and you need to be
able to accept criticism of ae W without your response
being yeah, but Vince, like you know, like Tony Kahan
did something scummy the other day and somebody was like Nce,
and everybody was like, no, we're not talking about Vince.

(33:02):
Like Vince being a scumbag does not give Tony a
get out of scumbag free god. As long as Vince
McMahon has done something, just as it's done something worse
or equal to the thing that Tony Kahan has done.
Tony Kahan gets away with it, Scott free just based
on the fact that Vince McMahon exists. I hate that

(33:25):
Scott Rizzo For ten dollars, I was embarrassed to be
a wrestling fan. During the all out main event, my
girlfriend walked in and said, wtfah, I mean, what part
was it that cinder blocks, the hypoderm, mcneedle, the staples
when they were literally just taking when they were just
taking turns, stapling each other and trying to stab each
other with a wooden steak like it like it was
Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
What was that, dude?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Like, Ugh, never mind, they were owning us.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
They were owning us.

Speaker 9 (33:53):
It's because everyone later, But it's because everyone said Dracula
and vampire when they drank blood, so they used it.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Wouldn't Oh yeah, and three dimensional chess uh aw deck
be a wise man producer of this show. For two dollars,
Canadian says Adam Page moves the needle yes right into
swerb of Strickland's mouth. Shohn J. D nine nine says
weirdos explaining wrestling to Ricky Morton enraged me. You and

(34:21):
me both, brother, what it used to be. It used
to be that when one of these old school veteran
wrestlers said something, that was the end of the conversation,
Like like they came in they were like, no, this
is how it is, and everyone's shut up, and now
it's well, you don't know what you're talking about. All

(34:41):
to defend, all to defend Tony Kahan, like that is sick.
It's sick behavior. I hate it. Samurai Samp for two dollars,
says it's death jitsu, not ninjitsu. John Moxley, Floyd uh
Elsie Killer seventeen for five dollars, thank you very much.

(35:04):
As when they take the when they take out the needle,
I said to myself, I am done with ae W.
It's turning Indie God, turning indie garbage company. It's already there,
it's already been there. Lagat J eighty one for two
dollars is Miro's first feud for six months was over
an arcade machine. That is true. Also it was thank
you guys for for your generous super chats. Please, can

(35:25):
you know you guys continue to super chat throughout the
show to have your thoughts and questions read aloud on
the air. Awful wrestling in the chat, saying Funk did
it to Flair about the bag over the head.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
And we talked about that, give it the times off.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
God good, he cannot know what.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I really want to talk about. One of these super chats, though,
that really struck me, was this one. Okay, your girlfriend
walks in see you watching this and you feel embarrassed
by it?

Speaker 8 (36:04):
Like that?

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Could you?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I can't imagine. I can't imagine. Well, I can't imagine
because like, if anyone saw me watching that, I would
be embarrassed too.

Speaker 8 (36:13):
But I think we all know what we were when
necrophilia happened.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, that's when Katie vic happened. But no, Scott's right.
I mean, this was one of those things where it's
like I can't I thank goodness, no one can see
me watching this right now. I mean, you know, a
couple thousand people saw me watch it because we were
watching it live but awful, and I was just like,
what are they doing?

Speaker 5 (36:39):
It was?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
They didn't even say what he injected in with, like
was he gonna pull out? I was like, please tell
me He's not gonna pull out one of his teeth,
like he's injecting him with novacaine or something, because what
do you injected in the mouth? But yeah, like I'm
so glad miss this movie monster was not in the
room when that when that happened.

Speaker 8 (36:58):
At first, like when I saw the clip first pop up,
I thought that he was fortunately removing one of his grills.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
What am I go?

Speaker 8 (37:06):
Oh, that's super brutal.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Did that he did? Oh?

Speaker 8 (37:08):
He did that? Okay? And then I'm like, is that
a needle? What? What are you injecting him with? What
is the point? Like, what what what is the point
of this If you weren't going to knock him out,
you know, to set up some kind of obscene finish.
What was the point of it other than to be gross?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, and also it was just it was literally it
was just it was literally torture point. It was literally
just to be gross. It was just for shock value
because it's not like and it's not like he injected
him with something that all of a sudden made him
seize or like made him pass out. There was none
of that. It was just he injected him with something
because they wanted the visual of the hypodermic needle hanging out.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
Of his mouth. Also to the sickos. I pointed this
out to him, like, well, let's be honest, right, because
they're all up in arms that people are upset. But
I was like, well, let's say this was a show
that Vince Russo happened. The book, Yes, and he booked
all of these spots, said that well would be having

(38:08):
an absolute bloody meltdown. Oh yeah, that it happened. I
beat him fourteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
I checked, Oh, okay, he might have seen you, he
might have seen your tweet, and was like, he's right, bro,
ye that's what I made.

Speaker 8 (38:27):
I think someone someone did respond with yeah, and he
would have put them all on a pole.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, he would have. I don't even say you wouldn't have,
but yes, I was. I was embarrassed to be watching this.
Anyone should have been embarrassed to be watching this, you know. Now,
going back, it all kind of stupted. So during the
MJF Daniel Garcia match, that was where it kind of
started for me, because this insane need for them to

(38:58):
put over Daniel guys, see as if he's some kind
of Steve Austin level badass I don't understand it. I
don't get it.

Speaker 9 (39:09):
I Swerve, a friend of the show. Swerve was on
the show once he posted not Swarve Strickland, the real Swerve.
He posted he posted on Twitter, uh that every time
he sees Daniel Garcia, all he pictures is merv while
he's interviewing Dennica Patrick and the speedo and that's all
I can see.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Now, that's awful, and I was awful and I were
making that reference. We're like, he looks like James mur
Murray for the Impractical Jokers, especially when he's all like
oiled up. Yes, Patrick.

Speaker 8 (39:41):
Destroyed Daniel Garcia for me.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
He looks just like him.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
And then the entire match was him just being like
bed As. It was so cringey. He's a time when
I didn't have to be old that somebody was a badass.
I remember just people being bad asses. The Undertaker, Stone Cold,
Steve Austin, doctor d Dave Schultz. These men were just badasses. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (40:11):
And how about his uh, how about his badass promo
from Dynamite where all he did was say.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I love a e W more than you.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
It was it was a weird slap fight about who
loves a w moore.

Speaker 8 (40:22):
That that bizarre, Like we're gonna drop a bunch of
insider terms that doesn't do anything for anybody, and then
of course it's time to taste some blood.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, of course, who who who?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Who?

Speaker 8 (40:36):
Was who was enticed to buy the pay per view
from that?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Nobody h.

Speaker 9 (40:43):
Nobody's ever enticed to buy any AW pay per view
because the only people who buy the AW pay per
views are people like us who have to to cover it,
or the.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
People who are gonna buy it no matter what happened.

Speaker 9 (40:55):
They're not because I'm fully convinced that Tony has given
up on attracting any new audience. There's just like all
he's doing is booking to the people that are already
there because he thinks, well, I'm at a point where
I'm sustainable, so let's just keep going. He has no
he has no interest in my business, he has no
interest in your business. He has no interest in Mars business.
So he's not going to book to people who like

(41:16):
actual wrestling. He's going to book TV quote unquote sickos
until he can't anymore, and then he's gonna turn around
and try to be WW again. I mean, that's that's
the pattern that I've noticed developing over these past five years.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
It's circular. Yeah, you're not wrong, You're very much not wrong.
I'm trying to find a good picture of him from
the pay per view of Daniel Garcia, because I really
want to point out just how much he looks like
James Murray.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
Is there a good picture of Daniel Garcia ever?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Probably not?

Speaker 9 (41:51):
But how is how are we supposed to buy him
as a mate of Venner? Can anybody explain that to me?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Why?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Like, but he've been trying. But remember when Tony did
the whole like a Star has been born tonight. That's
say it Tony like.

Speaker 9 (42:05):
See I think I always thought that he was Tony's
response to see him Punk really liking Ricky Starks, because
it happened around that time where Punk and even Brian
Danielson were Brian Danielson. I say it every time, even
I didn't say this time though, even Brian Danielson did

(42:27):
the thing where he was bigging up Ricky Starks, and
then Ricky Starks of course has a mind of his
own and doesn't apparently, I guess, I don't know. I
guess see him Punk maybe knock some sense into him
and he stopped just he started posting things that weren't
just sucking up to Tony all the time. So then
all of a sudden it became about Daniel Garcia instead
of Ricky Starks, and it see it, they completely switched.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
To where it was Daniel Garcia.

Speaker 9 (42:50):
And I think that was in response to Ricky Sharks
deciding he wasn't just going to suck up Tony all
the time.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Although Ricky Starks decided to, you know, attack me, that
was that was when he was still stucking up to
Tony all the time. Yeah, well, you know what, I don't.
I don't forgive and I don't forget.

Speaker 13 (43:06):
I know.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I hope he rots on the indies. I hope that
I hope that he learns. I hope that he learns
the lesson that what do you call it? Who am
I thinking of? Yeah? The one that that left, that
Cody friend that left and went back Marshall. Yeah, I
learned the lesson. Yeah, learn the lesson that q T.

(43:28):
Marshall learned that Cody Roadse's friend is not valid experience
on a resume. What's he doing?

Speaker 13 (43:37):
Now?

Speaker 6 (43:37):
Where's Brandon?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
You know?

Speaker 5 (43:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (43:40):
God, Brandon Cutler him, hold on, hold on, I think
I've got the the images. He had to add.

Speaker 8 (43:52):
All right, now.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Here is Daniel Garcia. All right, here is James Marray,
Daniel Garcia, James Marry Daniel Garcia. James Mrray. Okahs in

(44:16):
better shape. I honestly think mur I honestly think looks
better than Daniel Garcia.

Speaker 9 (44:24):
He's got something to him. He tries, you know, he
tries really hard. Daniel Garcia. He does the eyebrows really nice,
and he has all that.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Going for the exact same guy, like exact same guy.
But yeah, so that match right there started off, and
of course, you know, we had blood in the first match,
and bloody, bloody blah. Then we got the the will
Osprey versus Pack match, and I liked that match, like
if you I liked it in the way that I

(44:52):
like watching a Spider Man movie where I'm like, wow,
that was impressive, you know, but they're actually doing it.
It's not CG. I you know, I don't look at it.
I look at a professional wrestling match, just like I
don't look at death matches the way I would look
I would judge a professional wrestling match. Then we got
Willow Nightingale versus Chris Statland, which, by the way, awful
and I were very complimentary to that match. I love

(45:13):
that match up until it gets to the point where
they bring the thumb tacks out once the once we
get the vagina in the thumbtack spot. Yes, she she
landed them. She landed in the thumb tacks in a
front split. So she took the thumb tacks vagiant first,
I'm assuming did yes, of course, yeah, so that happened.

(45:38):
But then she took out a chain and attached She
took out a chain with like straps on her wrist
and the other end to Willow's wrist and turned it
into like an impromptu chain match, And I'm like, why
would you do that? What is the point of that?

(45:59):
What what is the benefit of that? It just makes
chain matches less impressive in the future, and it's being
we clearly saw you've all growing on, so like will
and Nightingale could have very easily just taken it off,
and it's not like it was a chain match. So
that was dumb, But the match itself had really good intensity.
The light tube spot took me by surprise, and look

(46:20):
if light tubes was as extreme as we got on
this show. I would have been fine with it. I
wouldn't have been talking about it, but it wasn't because
we had to keep going. We had to keep up
in the ante we had. By the way, worst match
on the show was Mercedes. We'll talk about that one later.
It was the Mercedes More Day match. But then you

(46:42):
get to the bag over the head, which again the
stupidest thing that's ever happened. The bag on the head
is I mean, what more could be said than we
didn't say already for the super chat. Then you get
to that case match and you get all of that ridiculousness,

(47:03):
just every horrifying moment of it. It was just an
absolute garbage show. It was a garbage show top to bottom.
And he was probably sitting back there, you know, with
like with his big like I'm a big boy, with
my ice cream smile on his face and just having
the time of his life in front of a half

(47:24):
in front of a half empty arena, you know like that.
That show has done well over ten thousand people every
year up to this point, and all out this year
in Chicago still did eight thousand people. That was embarrassing, Yes,
like it's a sellout, yeah, because you only put eight
thousand something seats on sale.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
Well yeah, but Tony's satisfied with his Twitter reaction. He's
sitting there watching his feed of of you know, of
select accounts and watching the Marvel, you know, watching the
Marvel and and and and self adulate, and you know,
everything's good because the sickos were happy.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
Well, yeah, the show was like coach Tony k not
Tony Khan, just you know, clearly.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Every time there was a this is awesome, champ awful
and I were like, oh, he's flying at Twitter right now,
and the chat would light up going he is. He's
actually like, I don't know, I feel like Triple Ah
should probably be a little bit more, a little busier
when he's hosting, when he's running the show from Gorilla
to be on Twitter. But I've also heard the Triple

(48:36):
H watches Twitter. You know, I'm sorry, I go ahead, Yeah,
we'll talk about that, LA, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (48:44):
Well, it's gonna say Triple Ah does watch Twitter, and
what he does is he tries to gauge a general
reaction from the population to see how they're reacting to
his show so that he can make changes and do
things down the line.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
He doesn't watch.

Speaker 9 (48:57):
Twitter to stroke his ego and to reassure himself that
everything he's doing is okay and make sure that it
does Triple A block anybody.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
I've never on Twitter. How many do you want, Tony
K No.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Well, I mean, I'm pretty sure all of us, maybe
not keV, but I'm not. I I think I think that.
I don't think Triple H blocks anyone because Triple H
doesn't interact with anyone. Triple Ah doesn't respond to these
accounts with like thirty followers, right.

Speaker 9 (49:30):
He tries to gauge a general reaction from the public
to see if they they enjoy what he's doing. He
doesn't go on and look for singular comments that will
either that just fight with people, right he does.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
That's not what he uses it for. He uses it
for what these guys should be using it for.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
MM. Yeah, uh So, Mercedes Monet, for the second time
in a row, has had the worst match on a
pay per view. Now I want to I want to
preface this by saying, when I say what the worst
match on a show on an AW show is, I
don't count the Orange Cassidy match because it's a given

(50:08):
that that's the worst match on the show. So you know,
it would just be boring if you kept saying the
Orange Cassidy match was the worst match on this show.
But for the second month in a row, or actually
not second month, it was two weeks ago. For the
second pay per view in a row, Mercedes Monet had
the worst match. It was terrible, guys, terrible, horribly booked,

(50:28):
horribly put together, horribly just nothing made sense. And it's
very clear that her creative control also covers calling matches
because this was a train wreck. Disc what did you
think of this match?

Speaker 9 (50:42):
I I don't get it. I don't get Mercedes at all.
She's like, I don't get how even you'd think AW
fans at this point would be like, no, she's not ours, Like,
you can't defend Mercedes.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
Mercedes is just bad. Did you watch Dynamite TV?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (50:58):
Last week?

Speaker 9 (50:59):
Okay, how did How is it possible that someone who
can barely speak English cut a better, more poignant, more
emotional promo against Mercedes?

Speaker 6 (51:13):
The Mercedes was able to cut herself after.

Speaker 9 (51:15):
Being in WWE, after being in New Japan, after being
in AEW. She can't do this, She's not good and
she's going to collect more belts. That's what this whole
thing is. She's gonna get all those belts because.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
She wants them. She wants them. Man, They're like crystals
to her.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
They give her her power. They have crystals embedded in them.
They do.

Speaker 8 (51:37):
She can't cut promos because she doesn't have a personality.
She is the epitome of web the She's just playing
a role. She is a cosplay superstar at best.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
In the match, she came out for her match with this,
you know, with this Japanese woman, and she was in
a By the way, she's great.

Speaker 9 (52:01):
By the way, I want to say that she is
a fantastic wrestler and should be able to carry almost
anyone do a good match, anyone.

Speaker 8 (52:08):
Mercedes.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Mercedes was in a kimono and uh then but then
when she took a kimono off, she was wearing like
a weird American flag gear. It was a Selena Vega outfit.

Speaker 8 (52:19):
Was yeah, she worked the week before.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell if it
was an American flag, if it was a Puerto Rican flag.

Speaker 14 (52:27):
It was only the one star. But you know, I
just look, she is the epitome of I'm trying to
think I even how to put it.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
She she is. She is the biggest wasted money in
the history of professional wrestling.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Bro Tony got work.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
She is.

Speaker 8 (52:48):
And I say it with nothing but love because I
think Alex Luger is one of the greats. But this
was Vince getting worked into signing a Lex Luger for
an absurd amount of money because her flair made him
look like a million dollars. And uh, Charlotte worked. I
mean Charlotte worked. Uh you know, Mercedes butt off and
Mercedes believes are on height. But given everybody else in

(53:09):
the room that she was, you know, in that upper echelon,
and she is mid at best, as the kids would
put it.

Speaker 9 (53:16):
I don't even know if But I don't even say
it was Tony being worked as much as it was
Tony just wanting to beat WWE.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
At everything and he thought they wanted her, so he
was he wanted her.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
I think, you know, the one thing that this run
has accomplished is who the worst fans in all of
wrestling where the Sasha stands. They were terrible. They were
the biggest, Like they'll threaten your life, they'll light your
house on fire. They'll you know, kill your dog and
you and your kids like they were the worst of

(53:49):
the worst. They're gone that you don't hear from them anymore.
They they have abandoned her. Her sycophantic fans have abandoned
her completely. Have you guys noticed that?

Speaker 8 (54:05):
Well, yeah, I mean listen, but they she has if
you don't count a E W right, you know, because
they only get like six hundred thousand people watching the show.
She has been on mainstream TV for over five years.
Her stands have moved on. She is dustin to win

(54:25):
as far as they're concerned. And she also aside from
like the novelty of her of her new Japan match,
what has she done? She's she is brutally not a draw.
She is brutally not a top match performer. She can
she can brutally not speak on the microphone. There's just

(54:49):
nothing there. And now that she doesn't have the top
notch you know, seamshish team her her. Her her outfits
look like costumes, look like bad cops on.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Her wigs are terrible. Her wig almost fell off. I
would love to see somebody rip one of her wigs
off during one of these matches and just see what
her real hair looks like.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
As my daughter says, I am praying for the day
someone comes by and snatches her weave.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Yeah, I was gonna say, it's not a wig, that's
a weave. That's a weave. By the way, joining us
right now from the World the Wrestling Soup, the One
and Only Anthony Missionary Thomas aka mish Mish.

Speaker 12 (55:29):
We were talking to what's going on we're.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Talking about We were talking about the abundance that is
Mercedes and you materialize.

Speaker 12 (55:39):
You know, it's like my personal bet signal at this point.
You know, somebody just whispers her name and I just appear.
But uh, yeah, No, it was a couple of things
that you guys are talking about. I went to the
all out show. I tried the Joey numbers. Mechanics of
aw shows were selling for chie like the night before,

(56:02):
those tickets were all out. The lowest ones I saw
in stub Hub were thirteen dollars. Wow, So you could
pick up a ticket technically the night before for thirteen bucks.
But I waited because Joey's like, no, no, no, just wait,
miss just wait, walk up and you'll probably walk in
for free. And we got to the Now Arena out in.

(56:22):
Hoffman estates it's outside of Chicago, so it's not really
in Chicago, but they kind of say it is. It's
the same place that my boys graduated high school from,
which is funny to think about that the Now Arena
is also a glorified high school gymnasium. But I digress.
I went there and I saw a bunch of people
coming back towards the cars, and the first thing I

(56:44):
shouted out was are they sold out?

Speaker 8 (56:47):
They said, yup, and.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I was like really, and that was it.

Speaker 12 (56:52):
I didn't even get the chance to go in. People
were just coming back. There was a line of people
coming back, So they legitimately did'd sell out the Now
Arena for what?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
It's okay, well that I mean, that's that's great for that.

Speaker 12 (57:05):
Is Chicago land. And for some reason, a lot of
Chicagoans think that AW is their hometown promotion.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Do they really? Even after even after Punk got fired?

Speaker 8 (57:18):
Yeah, even after Punk got fired.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
I thought that that was going to be it for Tony.
I thought that that was gonna be it for Tony
in Chicago. I thought his name was But still they
only put what eight nine tickets on sale?

Speaker 12 (57:32):
Yeah, and the ticket. Like I said, the tickets were
rock bottom the night before. Thirteen bucks for a p
l E ticket. Good luck finding that for a for
a summer sam or a Survivor series.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
You know he.

Speaker 8 (57:45):
Is a pay per view.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yes, we don't use that. Thad talk around here man
the oh gosh. So speaking of Mercedes, I do have
something that dis sent me because this is a subscriber
to the Monet mag the the Mercedes Monet Magazine, and

(58:11):
just we have to take a look at some of
this because I mean.

Speaker 12 (58:16):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Here we go from the desk of the CEO. Hey,
moname makers, it was quite busy this week traveling his
champagne and then watching him easy, but not busy enough
to miss delivering you issue thirteen of Monai Magazine. Big
shout out to disc because he's the only one who

(58:38):
subscribes to them. Special thanks to you mone Makers for
getting friends to sign up and the members of the
press for sourcing and any and all news items as
we had another record breaking week. Five hole people. Just
a reminder to new press outlets please credit us as
Monay mag when crediting us as a source, as we

(59:00):
are in fact a digital magazine and not a newsletter.
Wait that let's talk Mona DC title defense and thoughts
on NJPW.

Speaker 8 (59:13):
There she is, can I can I can I back
you up for half a second?

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (59:18):
Sure, So you missed a major point right right at
the get right underneath where it says Mona mag Weekly,
it says that this is volume two, issue number thirteen.
So how many issues of Moname mag are actually out there?

Speaker 6 (59:33):
Disc how often I can't wait to find out? I
can't wait to find out.

Speaker 9 (59:37):
This is my first one, and I signed up when
she released the previous one, which was two weeks before,
so I'm thinking every two weeks or so.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
I love her.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
Jim Jim Pepperman shout out in there.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
You don't pay for this, right like you no, no, no,
any this right? Okay.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
I had to join. I had to join her mailing list,
so I used my email burner to do it.

Speaker 13 (01:00:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
She's like, she's like, got your info, now, I get
all the TODA news now first before you guys, I
I loved my match in DC on Capitol Collision because
somebody had to. But I am definitely feeling sore all
the travel from Wembley to Champagne to DC definitely took

(01:00:23):
its toll, but it was nothing compared to what I
endured in the match. Before I get to that, let
me say how good it fell to feel and act
like I'm fighting champion I promised I would be. This
was my first New Japan title defense, and like I
said at my promo, with this show, it was four
hundred and sixty six days since I've been in a

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New Japan ring. That's when I got injured, and that's
when my career in life were like really up in
the eras doctors said, no, you broke your leg. It
was gotta feel now. They were like, Mercedes, you shouldn't
ever wrestle again. And I was like, oh my god,
am I never gonna heal? And they were like, no,
you should just never wrestle again. And I was like,

(01:01:06):
I don't understand, and they were like, don't worry about it.
I would never I would never wrestle again. So just
to be back whether we have the title felt incredible.

Speaker 9 (01:01:23):
Does any other wrestler have their own magazine? I know
Jericho has his own website, but.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I Jericho hasn't. Jericho has a news website. Yet Jericho
used to have his blog.

Speaker 12 (01:01:33):
I used to read Hardy used to have a really
good blog too, once upon a time back in the
early two.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Thousands and Lance Storm Love Jericho Credit. Jericho's site and
and new site have been around since websites were a thing.
He was the first to the dance posted. He had
posted breaking news that that news sites at the time
covered and then and didn't realize they had gotten word.

(01:02:00):
Jericho had posted that he had defeated Goldberg at a
house show and ended the streak. When you clicked on
the image of the house show, it was just Jericho
beating Goldberg in a in a in WCW revenge.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I know, Mish you were, you were you were doing
this back then.

Speaker 9 (01:02:20):
Jeredo kind of for a while killed the whole idea
of a fan podcast. Do you remember that, Like when
he first came around, and then other doing doing his podcast,
and then other wrestlers kind of jumped on and started
doing them.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
For a while, there was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Jericho was Jericho first. It was Stone called Steve Austin first.

Speaker 8 (01:02:40):
Before Stone Cold.

Speaker 12 (01:02:41):
Yeah, for for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:02:44):
I think the difference was though, was when Jericho started
getting into like serious exem and stuff like that, he
went full radio, there was. There was a few wrestlers
back then. Gosh, I'm trying to remember, because there were
a lot of offshoots, like once upon a time, I
want to say, in the early two thousand and three,
two thousand four, you had guys like Pitbull, Gary Wolf.
You had like a lot of indie guys that would

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do like blog talk radio back in the day. So
even though that wasn't the presentation that like a guy
like Chris Jericho had, even in the late nineties early
two thousands, there was a lot of offshoots. There was
a lot of indie guys smaller time like Texas promoters
and Texas wrestlers that would have their own podcasts on
a weekly and they spoke about wrestling in the same

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way as more of a fan than they did talk
about like inside the business. But sometimes they would depending
on who you're listening to, but it was always kind
of a thing. It was when podcasting really started coming
about and you started having these different avenues to do it,
like I mean, even to be fair, like Don Toni
and you know, worked with Frank Goodman, and Frank Goodman

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was obviously a promoter out of the East Coast, and
he had.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Heard along TI.

Speaker 12 (01:03:52):
Yes, yes, but he was. He was doing it early too,
he was early two thousands as well.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
There was a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Tish because Frank Goodman actually became like, uh, he was
like a presence in like the Disney World community, like
in the Disney Parks community. Really he had he had
his own he had his own Facebook group. I think
it was called like Disney World Junkies or something. Oh,
it was you will never find a wretched high of

(01:04:20):
scum and it was the worst people on the planet.
And Goodman was like, you know, Goodman was selling T
shirts and and he was like, you know, but like
I think he was, I don't remember this is exactly
so I don't want to like, you know, but there
was a big thing when people were saying he was
stealing money from people with the T shirts. So uh

(01:04:41):
but uh, I mean yeah, I just thought. I just
thought it was so funny because I was like, why
can I not escape you no matter what fandom go
to but the go ahead miss.

Speaker 12 (01:04:49):
Sorry, no, no, I was just gonna, I mean, just
to follow it up. There was a lot of people.
I remember Eric Bischoff used to do a show with
the Monday Night Mayhem guys, which some people may or
may not remain, And he was on there like every Monday,
just kind of shooting the ship about wrestling. Oh sorry,
shooting the poop about wrestling these days.

Speaker 8 (01:05:10):
We talked about skin Max and and and I think
Ascot said like forty five seconds into it, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
That yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:05:21):
But I mean, I think I think that as long
as there's been an opportunity for a wrestler to get
behind a microphone, there's been a wrestler behind a microphone,
you know what I mean. I I honestly don't think
Chris Jericho is even the first one to come up
with the idea. I'm sure it goes back even earlier
than Jericho might just not be that we think of.
I mean, maybe it goes back to radio interviews. I
know Jerry Lawler used to do radio back as it

(01:05:44):
you too. I'm only on that, but I think didn't
solely and Barnette, oh solely absolutely was a radio guy
for so many years too, because he would also cover like, uh,
what was that NASCAR was like the French cars, I
don't know what it was called.

Speaker 9 (01:06:05):
One of my favorite wrestling memories is we used to
go to My mom used to be in a bowling
league when I was like ten or eleven, and every
Saturday we would listen to WWF Radio at.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
The bowling alley.

Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
We'd all huddle in a corner and listen to Jim
Ross doing WWF Radio. And I even listened. We listened to,
uh they did World Rumble ninety.

Speaker 15 (01:06:27):
Four.

Speaker 9 (01:06:27):
I think over WWF Radio. I would kill to have
that audio right now. That that stuff was just and
it was good. It was good stuff too.

Speaker 12 (01:06:35):
And a lot of that stuff has just gone. Isn't
that the worst thing, like all these classic moments, especially
for radio people, the fact that all that audio is
just poof gone.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I know. And so you know wrestling wrestling podcasts
evolved though, because it went from you know Jericho or
Austin or Piper or you know whoever sitting in front
of a microphone and talking eedgend Christian at one point
interviewing people to the Conrad Thompson formula and now you
know everyone from He has got shows on his network

(01:07:10):
that I have never like, I never knew existed, like
An Anderson and and McK foley has one with him,
and Kurt Angle has one with him I'm like, how
does he do all these in a week?

Speaker 6 (01:07:20):
And he just he just started with Brian Adams.

Speaker 12 (01:07:22):
I think, what really?

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yeah, the one thing that I'm shocked he's never gotten
is I've been waiting for it. He's never gotten an
e c W one. Like the closest he's gotten is Folly.
But I was like, oh, it's only a matter of
time before he gets like Tom Tommy Dreamer or something
like that to do a show with him, to talk
to ECW shows.

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
But who does who does Sandman's podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:07:47):
I don't think it's I don't know either, But I mean,
you're you're not wrong, gosh. I mean, could you imagine
Shane Douglass on a platform like that?

Speaker 16 (01:07:56):
Oh finish music, You're all a bunch of Tom Michaels
second one to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Cut the I'm not here to talk about Dick Fair.

Speaker 9 (01:08:16):
It actually surprises me that like Lance Storm hasn't jumped
into the game.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
I think he'd be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Back in the back in the day when like if
like I saw like keV, like you know, at the
mall or something like that, and he didn't see me,
I'd come up behind him and just go cut. That
was how were That was how we greeted each other
for like two years.

Speaker 8 (01:08:38):
It's like me and him and a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Couple of our other friends, like would just do that?
We love Shane Douglas. All right, so can we get
Let's get back to the moment, Matt. Yeah, Britt Baca
versus Momo Watanabe. After I imagine it all in against Britt,
I definitely felt sore. I can't what do you want?
Do you want to meddle? Like stop complaining about the
fact that you saw, like Frit pulled out a lot

(01:09:02):
of innovative moves, but Momo, she had so many lethal
kicks and legal forms. Not to mention nies to the face.
She was really deadly out there as proof, I have
multiple bruises on my arm, not to mention my leg
after she hit me with a baseball bat. If all
of you want to start as She's hardcore chant right now,

(01:09:25):
it would not be against it.

Speaker 12 (01:09:30):
Oh my god, don't.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
Don't.

Speaker 12 (01:09:33):
Don't entice them because they will. They absolutely will start
a She's hardcore.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Would but it would be it would be like the
like the mocking He's hardcore chant, the Tommy Dreamer used
to get in the beginning before it became not mocking anymore.
And by the way, yes, like like the way this
sent me this magazine. He sent me it in Google
Drive and it opened in Google Docs, so it opens
in like a word doc. What what are these?

Speaker 8 (01:09:57):
What are these like gas station hood promoters, promoter flyers
above her graphics above her, above.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
The s you see like this one is me and
that's a leopard, and like the reason is because like leopards, O.

Speaker 8 (01:10:18):
Dude, this is really just my first easy like this
whole thing.

Speaker 9 (01:10:23):
Graphic design is my passioname actually becoming a spiritual graphic designer.

Speaker 8 (01:10:32):
Someone SoundCloud demos CD should be under this h under
this graphic it is.

Speaker 12 (01:10:39):
Did you not hear her first track? No, that's already out,
It's on Spotify. Guys.

Speaker 8 (01:10:50):
It's not just me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
It's not just me doing the Sailor moonspoop from last week.

Speaker 12 (01:10:54):
You know, she's she's finally dropped it. She's taken over
the world by storm, guys, my.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Storm, all right. Japan Wrestling a true sport. The job
on the is training such a different style. They call
it strong style, and you can see that with Momo
and all the Japanese girls really. You could see it
with Momo, you can see it with Appa, you can
see it with pretty much all of the avatar sidekicks

(01:11:23):
last a joke. The kicks their kicks, and strikes a
jet are doing like my accent as I'm like, strikes
are I have to remember to pronounce are their kids?
And strikes are just impressive. They really treat wrestling like
a sport for them. It's not just a sight job
and not just entertainment. They dream like le athletes every day,

(01:11:49):
even multiple times to day, and fighting Momo really felt
like that. I felt like fighting a legit MMA fighter,
but like in where I still win?

Speaker 12 (01:11:58):
Did she kind of blow herself up up with that line.
So they trained like legit athletes as opposed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
To Yeah, as opposed to me, who never trains at all.
I just walk into the gym with my belt, and
I walk around and I get some water, and then
like maybe I'll like go on the StairMaster and like
look at it, and then like I'll look around and
see if anyone's looking at my belt, and then like
I'll be like, oh my god, that guy is staring

(01:12:26):
at me. I can't work out like this. And then
I leave.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
V.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
keV. Is that pretty much how it works?

Speaker 8 (01:12:35):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 12 (01:12:36):
keV is nursing on migraine right now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
She put up such a strong battle with her kicks.
All of it was awesome, and I'm definitely not complaining.
I've been a fan of the Japanese style since I
was twelve years old. I especially like when they put
the crystals in the Crescent ones and you said, the
blast people back to the naga first.

Speaker 12 (01:13:02):
I hope she has like a crystal death match.

Speaker 8 (01:13:04):
One day. They just tie a bunch of rocks to
a board. It's gonna be over.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Bro always been a signum and love and respect along
with the country. Am I open for a more new Japan?
Sylum matches you that I just need a little bit
of tiny recovery? Is she like treating? Is she talking
about wrestling like it's a shoot?

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:13:28):
Is this completely she goes back? She's going back and
forth because sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
It's like it's like reading on Anderson's autobiography.

Speaker 8 (01:13:36):
Oh, I just about to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
But like he'll be like, ah, those boys, they got
lucky on that night, and then like in the next
page he'll be talking about like booking. Because she was.

Speaker 9 (01:13:48):
Saying she was talking about how you know, I had
some good moves to come back at Britt and then
Britta and then the next thing and she goes but
Brit hit really hard.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
I even have a bruise from it. Like it's wrestling.
You should have a brew.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
From stop Tony Khan surprise. Jen Pepperman told me that.

Speaker 12 (01:14:07):
This is this is being fed through her. What two
million dollars a year writer or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Yeah, something like that she had name.

Speaker 8 (01:14:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Jen Pepperman told me that Tony Kahan was jimming on
his jet to come and catch me match. Unfortunately, Tony's
flight got stuck leaving Champagne, but he called me them
only he landed to say, what a great job, my dad,
and then he'll try to be there for my next fight.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Oh gosh, I'm not gonna go watch her. Just tell
her my flights.

Speaker 8 (01:14:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Even even Tony Khan is sick of her. What an
honor to do. It's someone who shoulders so much responsibility
as Tony does, was trying to fly all the way
to DC just to see my match, like just because
I told him that he had to. What an amazing
boss and leader with such infectious passion. It makes me

(01:14:58):
want to work even harder for him. The women and
ae W like, what women are you working for exactly
of yourself?

Speaker 8 (01:15:08):
I don't know, I really don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:15:10):
I mean, I would imagine that a lot of the
girls look at her and see her body of work
and probably feel kind of awful themselves because they look
at her and you see that this is the body
of work that you're supposed to follow, You're supposed to
be this when so many of these other girls that
are even on the AW roster let alone, the indies,
are far far better than her in the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Look at this. Come see me, Come fight me. People
have been wondering who I was talking about in my
post fight comments when I said come see me, come
fight me. Really, I'm speaking to any girl who thinks
that she's a better fighter than me. I don't know
who that might be, but Ironin committed to facing the
absolute best wrestlers and performers, which is why it came

(01:15:54):
to AW. I'm here to face new opponents and to
make magic and beat a lot away. I reiterate my
ongoing goal to promote and uplift our part of the
craft and myself because I get to beat them all.
I want to give any woman in the world the
opportunity to get beaten by me. You heard you, hearted ladies.

(01:16:15):
If you think you're a better fighter of the Mercedes
Modet and you see her walking down the street, you
got commission?

Speaker 12 (01:16:22):
You do you even fix somebody with this mentality?

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
I think that when you when you come see her,
come find her, you have to challenge her like it's
a Pokemon match.

Speaker 8 (01:16:30):
Yes, yes, yes, you throw a small bedazzler rock at her.
It has negative energy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Oh no, it's training my power.

Speaker 12 (01:16:50):
I just I just can't help but think all that
money wasted on this person.

Speaker 8 (01:16:56):
Just threw it on a barrel, et cetera, on fire.
All right, So.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
For future weeks, we're gonna have to do We're gonna
have to do this more.

Speaker 8 (01:17:04):
And I love this because thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
This is an amazing segment. This You were absolutely right.
Let's get to a few super chests. Let's see it
was yeah, okay, so JPS for five dollars. Thank you
so much. As I have been on awful mentality. Aw
sucks since day one, and it'll keep sucking until Daddy
KHN cuts his Son's allowance. Uh Alijandro Melendez for a

(01:17:31):
dollar ninety nine. Tuxedo Dom and Sailor Live won the
day once again. There you go, there's that cat. That
cat is just determined to show its butthole to the world.

Speaker 9 (01:17:43):
I'm pretty sure that's where the Sasha stands went by
the way, Yeah, yeah, okay, sure.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Every every every time I hear Siren talk or every
time I see Siren com in front of the microphone,
all I could think is, well, yeah, shoo, Ski shook
shot and the.

Speaker 8 (01:18:07):
Hulkster will do nothing nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
John j D nine XT is doing a lot of
good things right now. John, don't tell people that we
want them to stay here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
What are you doing, man, you're blowing it up. Scott
Rizzo for ten dollars. I had Awful and yourself on
my laptop at the time of the main event. We
agreed with all your commentary not he had a kiss
ass that just tell truths. Well, I'm glad you agreed,
because man, we had a lot of thoughts during that match.
I mean, I I think I might need to isolate
just that match with Awful and I just being like,

(01:18:47):
this is the worst thing that's ever happened, Like wait,
when when the when they Because when they brought the
cinder block out, I was convinced that it was gonna
be one of those cinder blocks Scott that like you
get hit with it and it turns to it turns
to powder us. Yeah, like the like with Scott with
Scott Hall exploded a cinder block against Uncle Steve Awson's leg,

(01:19:07):
but like, oh, here we go with the fake cinder blocks.
But then when it was a real cinder block, I
was like, oh, I don't know what I prefer, right,
because this was really difficult to watch. Like you saw
Page took that first bump on the cinder block and
his back was torn up. Yeah, well, and then Swerve

(01:19:29):
took that power bomb right on his lower back on
the cinder block, which I'm like, Sean, Sean Michael's career
was ended for four years for far less than that, right,
So yeah, well, I'm glad that you guys agreed.

Speaker 16 (01:19:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
We enjoyed doing it. So we're gonna keep doing that
with with pay per views and pl e's and whatnot.
So hope you guys will all join us for those
Alijandro Melendez for a dollar ninety nine says the way
aw fans treated Mickey Ricky Morton was vile. That is true. Uh,
Ricky Morton said very simply, we should be banning unprotected
chair shots to the head.

Speaker 12 (01:20:03):
No more chair shots like it was. It actually came
from a place of emotion. It didn't even feel like
it was like a p s A or nothing like
chair shots should not be used. It came from a
place of a guy who's taken a couple of chair
shots to the head.

Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
And probably is worried about his kids who are in
this industry. And he didn't mention a w by name either.
By the way, I thought it was funny that our
own producer, neck Beards the wise man. Uh he put
a comment under that that sounded exactly like every other
you can you if you didn't know who Neckbeards was.

(01:20:37):
It didn't look like parody because it sounded exactly like
all the other comments he was.

Speaker 6 (01:20:42):
He got, he did. He got there early, so you
know he wasn't. He didn't just blend in obviously.

Speaker 8 (01:20:51):
People.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
I love when people don't realize that a that neck
Beard is is a parody account. I feel like I
feel like he almost has to put up the gift
of Lennon from Big Bang Theory holding up the sarcasm sign,
which I sometimes do just being I don't want to
deal with people that don't understand. I saw coach coach
Jonathan coachman shann one today where somebody was like, oh God, coach,

(01:21:18):
what do you know about w w A? And so
coach like went off on the guy and I'm like, oh, Coach,
this was very clearly satire, Like the guy was clearly trolling,
like it's you know, and I think I think my
response was Coach, I think this was clearly a joke.
But you're you know, you still were spot on with
your response.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
Yeah, there was someone.

Speaker 9 (01:21:37):
There was some Jimmy Jimmy Carnarias commented on that rough
spot during the Brian Danielson versus.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Oh they hate they hate him, and they're like, who
are you. It's like, seriously, dude, you're gonna get on
Jimmy Cardaria's about referee and.

Speaker 8 (01:21:52):
They get on him, eating on him for a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Yeah, well, they go after his family. They tried to
they then one guy tried to talk about the one
hot thing and Jimmy went Jimmy went off on him
for that one because he's like, look I was there,
m FO like you.

Speaker 12 (01:22:08):
Know, yeah, he he will quote and retweet anybody. Jimmy
Corderis gives zero just zero.

Speaker 8 (01:22:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
John d Lee for two dollars says ship show in
Jaguars coke job. The cycle is complete, John J. Nine.
It's been coached Tony k booking for about a year now.
What is coach Tony k Oh? You don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
Coach Tony k was Uh Tony Kahn's you uh, please do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Not tell me, Please do not tell me that this
is his gimmick. No, no, it was his. It was
his username when he was on the no DQ forums.
You can go back and look at it.

Speaker 9 (01:22:47):
He started the wrestling sleeve thread, right Coach Tony Kah
or coach Tony k.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Yeah, he was a troll.

Speaker 12 (01:22:54):
He was to explain. It was all the worst rumors
and possible things that may have happened, kind of compiled
into one giant, long, five hundred pages.

Speaker 9 (01:23:08):
On my on my old podcast, we did an episode
where I did a shoot interview with a fake wrestler
who basically told stories that were we would we It
was about four hours long and it was just from.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
The sleeves thread and he made this so awesome stories
from Lenion picks a lot for two dollars, says Sasha
Banks fire and Sasha Blanks.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
He it is.

Speaker 6 (01:23:32):
That's the one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Scott dollars ninety nine and no message attatched. But we
thank you for it, my friend that he said five
dollars his Mercedes put two of the wrong crystals together.
Wwe is so good to hide that she is this bad.
I honestly think that she The fact that she can
look at on WWE TV shows that she has the
ability to be good when she's being coached and produced,

(01:23:59):
but when left to her own devices, she is too
stupid to be good.

Speaker 8 (01:24:04):
See, they knew how to hide her weaknesses and they
worked very hard to do it, and she had excellent
dance partners.

Speaker 12 (01:24:13):
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 8 (01:24:15):
She's on her own and every time she does anything
she is just exposed.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Which she would wrestle with her and Bailey, Like it's
very clear that there Jeff Jarrett and the road Dog
at this point, where like the road Dog was the
one singing my Baby to Night behind the curtain, or
was supposed to be at least did that actually happen
or did was the story that Jarrett like wanted to
be the one singing it. No, he's he it was
road dog binging.

Speaker 9 (01:24:40):
And the whole story the whole time was that he
was supposed to come out as being the guy behind
the curtain.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
But then Jarrett's contract was up, so he left.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Colin Taylor for two dollars. Please sing my next chat
like youth Gone wild? Okay, Colin taylaf for twenty dollars,
Thank you so much, sound like total dial My promos
are so mild. T K's are spoiled. Child Jerich goes in.

Speaker 12 (01:25:06):
There now, man, that is good.

Speaker 8 (01:25:09):
Off the cuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
That was good.

Speaker 8 (01:25:11):
It is good off the cuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
That was good. That was good. That deserves a a
resounding round of applau.

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
Fantastic audience by the.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Way of our so much. Craig Churchill for two dollars
Canadian Mercedes only good Matches twenty seventeen FCA versus Charlotte.
I would say X. The NXT takeover with Bailey is
also good. You know we learned Doctor sixty four for
two dollars. Is this the actual product? A word?

Speaker 8 (01:25:45):
Doc?

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Yeah, pretty much like that's how it opened. Does that
is that how it opens for you to this or
does it just it's an it's just an email, Okay.

Speaker 12 (01:25:53):
Everything they put this together in like open office. They
probably even spend money.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
That's what she was like when she was like, this
is an online magazine, not a newsletter. I'm like, really, lady,
because this looks like a newsletter to me.

Speaker 12 (01:26:09):
Oh, it's an easy like like if you look at
the magazines, like a PWI five hundred, for example, you'll
have pictures on this side and then you'll have like
columns wrap around the pictures, Like it really gives you
a full feel on every page. This is a picture
that takes up half the page words and then space,

(01:26:29):
just half a page of space for no reason, Like
this is the bare minimum effort you could possibly do
for her fan base.

Speaker 9 (01:26:38):
It reminds me of the mailing list used to or
the newsletter used to get when you sign up for
like game spots mailing list, where it would be like
this game came out this week and we gave it
a nine out of ten.

Speaker 6 (01:26:47):
Click here to read it. It looks exactly like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
That format and email very generic. Yeah, uhga j eighty
one for two dollars is Kevin feels like Brett hard
on Raw right now. We'll talk about that in a minute.
That'll be our next thing we're talking about. Judge D
nine ninety nine for dollar ninety nine says he's in
the plane on the Tomact watching a stream Last Call podcast,

(01:27:15):
So five dollars. All I want for my birthday is
movin to interview Mercedes in his Mercedes voice. It would
do better ratings than AW Collision and AW Rampage combined.
Not that difficult to do right now, because man, with
those shows horrific in then, but yeah, the I would love.
I would love to like like do it on like
a like audio only so like she can't see me,

(01:27:38):
but like all she can here is that I'm like
talking like this and like that I might actually be
this person. Uh my other dream, I think I said
it on the on the Watch Along. I would love
to somehow finagle my way into one of these AW
media calls and start talking to Tony Khan the way
I talk to Tony kN on the headlock headlines. I mean, like, Tony,

(01:28:00):
you said you were going to do this and then
you did that, Like what the hell? Man, like just
like calling him tuney until he figures it out.

Speaker 12 (01:28:07):
Oh, he would hang up on you so fast. He
couldn't handle that level of confrontation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
He will no and I have no desire to interrupt
any aw anything but miss October thirty for a dollar
ninety nine, says Needles Bags Neo mox Oh my Scott
Rizzol sending another dollar ninety nine, thanks a lot man.
Really appreciate, really really appreciate the generosity from all you
guys tonight. This is fantastic. John J D nine Inet
nine for a dollar ninety nine is I'm happy Andrade

(01:28:34):
is working with Camello a lot. I guess that's pretty good, right, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
Those are good matches many those are really good matches.

Speaker 9 (01:28:41):
And and uh, it's it's it's I've seen people compare
it and say like, oh, this is just AW style wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
It's not.

Speaker 9 (01:28:50):
They're they're able to be coherent, they aren't watching moves,
they're telling stories in the ring, which, by the way,
did you see Brian Danielson going off about WWE a
storytelling outside the ring and AW do storytelling in the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
I did not see this.

Speaker 6 (01:29:04):
That's ridiculous. By the way, Uh, but.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
I legitimately said I said this during the watch along.
I think Tony, because there's so little time between the matches,
I think Tony is legitimately like trying to appeal to
the people with the stopwatches. Like I think that he
legitimately gets a kick out of the fact that he
with the stop watch people post their results. He has

(01:29:28):
more wrestling than the w WA.

Speaker 9 (01:29:30):
Yeah, but those those Carmelo it does remind me a
lot of Booker t and he shall not be named
back in the day when it was like they kind
of got together and elevated each other having good matches,
and that didn't like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Was that the best of Was that the best of
seven series? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:29:47):
They did it twice, didn't They did it once and
then once in WWH.

Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
Yeah that during that weird time where they just didn't
know what to do with anybody on SmackDown. So we're
gonna do it because why not?

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Yeah, and then Scott us So sending another dollar thank
you very much, man, really really appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:30:04):
Brother, They forgave you be named.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
We're talking about that in a second Stone Mexican guy
for dollar ninety nine. The sale of Moon parody song
was funny. That was in one of our regular videos.
We did the video about Mercedes match it all in
and I did fighting Creative by moon by daylight, winning
matches by moonlight, taking great offence from each slight. She

(01:30:35):
is the one Mercedes moon A. That was then we
came back from from the clip and it was she
will always turn her back.

Speaker 14 (01:30:44):
On her friends.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
She's the biggest sadder of trends. She knows just how
far page His neck bends. She is the one Mercedes
moon A. Uh, she knows just how far Page's neck bends.
Might be my favorite life I've ever written in the
I've ever written.

Speaker 9 (01:31:10):
By the way, how have they not gone to that feud?
Isn't that the one feud people really wanted to see
if she went into.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Yeah, because what's the because what's the finish? This well,
good point, okay, finish the finishes. The finish is is
you know, Salah Mooney wins and Soria is not doing that,
because I would assume Soria is still, you know, a
little angry about the fact that this woman stole how
many years of her career from her?

Speaker 12 (01:31:37):
Right, people gloss over that, and it's like because she said, oh, yeah,
we're fine now. But it's like, in the back of
my mind, I'm like, you lost what seven years because
of somebody who was being purposefully sloppy?

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
How does that not breed some some real if there
was no resentment, they would have done Soriah versus Mercedes
Monette at all at all? In yeah, in Soria's home country,
you know what.

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
On the other hand, though, if you were Soriah and
you had her neck, would you want to get back
in the ring with Mercedes.

Speaker 12 (01:32:12):
That's a good point too, because she's not better.

Speaker 8 (01:32:15):
It's not like can't take a.

Speaker 9 (01:32:18):
German, and and and and and page isn't better. She
can't take a German, and she can't. There's a whole
lot of stuff she still can't do.

Speaker 17 (01:32:25):
So.

Speaker 6 (01:32:26):
She, in my opinion, shouldn't be wrestling. But what do
I know, right, I'm not Tony Kahan.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:32:30):
We'll find out in her book coming out next year.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Oh yeah, she has a book coming out.

Speaker 12 (01:32:35):
Oh yeah, Soriah has a whole new book coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Uh oh Soriah. Okay, I thought, yeah, no, she does.
I'm sure she does. If we got the magazine, the book,
and the album all within a year, I just we.

Speaker 12 (01:32:55):
Don't have anything in the podcast. How can you forget
about the podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
Mark? She has a podcast.

Speaker 12 (01:33:00):
She has a podcast kind of about everything else she does.
It's kind of.

Speaker 6 (01:33:06):
Yeah, she started a podcast to talk about to monetize
her divorce.

Speaker 8 (01:33:10):
Right, Evan lumbassad somebody for asking about her divorce, right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
I know what.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
I didn't know about the podcast at first. So when
I first saw that the guy asked her about her
divorce and she got shitty with him, I was like,
you know what, probably should have gotten crappy with him
about that, because that's kind of messed up. You guys saw, Well,
you guys all set me. I didn't know. You guys
set me straight of being like no, like she was one,

(01:33:38):
you know, like like she was the one that started it,
and then he was asking about that, and I was like, oh, okay, screwr.

Speaker 17 (01:33:43):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:33:43):
Well, that was the thing is that she did a
whole podcast. She had a set she had like lights
with her name on it, like, the whole thing was
set up, and she took out one clip and the
only clip that she took of her first podcast was
about her ex husband and the rest of the podcast.
I don't know what happened to it just just gone.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
I guess.

Speaker 8 (01:34:05):
Very weird that poor broken man.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
We should just know we should do our own. We
should do our own Mercedes Monette album, just like cover
cover songs like these tramps, like us Baby we were
born to r Haven, like the most ridiculous song, sing.

Speaker 17 (01:34:23):
Us a song.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
You're the piano man, I.

Speaker 6 (01:34:28):
Know, keV It became a huge fan of Soriah's boyfriend over.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
The over the I saw you tweet about that. What
happened there?

Speaker 8 (01:34:36):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
What prompted? What prompted him to like get the brunt
of your rage?

Speaker 8 (01:34:42):
You don't want to know what. I don't think we
could talk about can't talk about it here. But uh,
he got he he was possessed by some bass ghosts
and one on a ramp and and just triggered them all.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
All right, the.

Speaker 8 (01:35:02):
Let's got to catch up on that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Oh no, like he so you actually like I mistook
this for one of the things that you freaked out about.
You liked him in a good way. Oh okay, all right,
So let's talk about Brett Hart on Monday Night Raw
in one of the best segments ever. We all look
when when we saw that this was happening. We all

(01:35:26):
said the same thing mentally, right, wouldn't it be amazing
if Gunther came out and was like my favorite wrestler's
Bill Goldberg and then he said it. Brett was like,
oh yeah, you know, you know f Bill Goldberg, Like
it would be great if Brett took the mic and
started like that was the thing that that like set
him off, and he like, you know, I turned it

(01:35:49):
off when soft Sammy's because I can't. I can't stand
the sight of him.

Speaker 9 (01:35:56):
So Sammy's I've said it before, this is a position
that I think Sammy should have been in all along.
My problem was that he should never have gone down
to the ice. He should always be jobber to the stars.
That's where Sammy should be.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
So I don't know now, but when he walks out
with that World Heavy League, he.

Speaker 9 (01:36:11):
Cannot win that World Championship, I guart he has once again,
he's another guy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Who if he doesn't win, he's going to be sad.

Speaker 6 (01:36:20):
If he doesn't know he's not.

Speaker 9 (01:36:21):
You know why he's not because he's gonna be in
the bloodline in two months and he's gonna be Roman
and he's gonna no you know, it's funny because in
the in the chat, they're saying like this is secretly
a saying I love Sammy.

Speaker 6 (01:36:33):
Sammy got my kid into wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
I I just was.

Speaker 9 (01:36:36):
I was really upset with what was happening with him
and what he had become. He can win me back
very easily.

Speaker 8 (01:36:43):
He can win me back.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Okay, Can I just ask you one question about Sammy,
Like in a hypothetical universe here he went to ae
W how long from the time he makes his first
appearits on TV before he's fighting with fans on the internet,
oh five seconds.

Speaker 8 (01:37:06):
Before the debut.

Speaker 12 (01:37:07):
He's very political, so that's all it's going to take
is somebody saying something political to him, and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Yeah, he wants to do it. Now.

Speaker 9 (01:37:14):
I didn't say I like Sammy as a person. Okay,
I want to make that very clear.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
You don't want to you don't want to hang out
with him, but you're okayearing god no anything to do
with you. Don't think you and Sammy Zain would have
epic conversations together.

Speaker 9 (01:37:34):
Just I get beat up, Honestly, I'm not. I'm sure
Sammy could probably take me. I'm I'm a weak, sick person,
so I'm straight good No, I've met enough wrestlers to
realize that most of the time, a lot of times
you don't want to you don't want to hang out
with wrestlers.

Speaker 6 (01:37:53):
keV is an exception.

Speaker 8 (01:37:54):
keV is excluded.

Speaker 9 (01:37:59):
Yeah, Kevin, that is definitely an exception. But uh, the
only the only real wrestler that I met that I
can say that I really liked was Balls Mahoney. I mean,
I'm talking about TV wrestlers and I'm not talking about like,
you know, guys you meet at the indie ped Balls
Mahony was great, But yeah, it's uh, it's I would

(01:38:19):
not get along. I wouldn't get along with Kevin Owens either.
I wouldn't And I love Kevin Owens. He's one of
my favorite wrestlers.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
So you don't enjoy a good poutine, I don't sure.
I'm pretty sure if you off some poutine, then you know,
may be your best friend.

Speaker 8 (01:38:35):
Did you do an a little bit better?

Speaker 12 (01:38:37):
Weird that you would think that, because I mean, guys
like Sammy and Kevin Owens seem like they're down to
earth guys. You know, they've both been in the muck,
so it's not like they're above themselves. They don't have
that Mercedes Monet level of ego. So even if you
don't agree with them on like a lot of personal levels,
you don't think you'd have a good time just hanging
out and shooting the show with them.

Speaker 9 (01:38:57):
I mean, okay, I get okay me personally, I can
probably have a good time with anybody.

Speaker 6 (01:39:01):
Okay, right, I'm I'm that guy. I can I can
blend in, I can sell part of it. I'll be fine.

Speaker 9 (01:39:07):
I will then go I never want to hang out
with that person again as I leave, you know what
I mean. Like, that's that's kind of how ill I'd
probably be in that situation.

Speaker 12 (01:39:16):
It's like you're stuck in a room with the Young Bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Yeah, Kevin forbid, I wouldn't. I wouldn't get in the room.

Speaker 13 (01:39:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
My favorite thing was when Aunt when Ant was on
the show and he said, uh, he was like, he said, like,
if I had heard that Scott Hall and Kevin Nash
like wanted to wanted to beat me up, I would
like go into witness protection. If I heard the Young
Bucks had a problem with me, I'm like, all right, lads,
which one wants at first? By the way, I just

(01:39:47):
glanced at the chat. Sometimes I do see the things
that the chat while I'm doing the show that our
zuber jets. I have to point this one out. Erica goes.
Sammy reminds me of that guy at every college party
that tries to impress the awkward, chubby girl with his
bizarre political takes. Ask me, ask me how I know.

Speaker 8 (01:40:06):
It was the it was.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
It was the follow up that made me want to
read it aloud.

Speaker 6 (01:40:13):
I was the guy who tried to impress them with
my uh, movie knowledge.

Speaker 8 (01:40:21):
Guy who has the tambourine when when everybody decides it's
time to jam out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Yeah, this this this was the guy that, like, look
in this scene Ego Mortenson actually breaks his toe when
he kicks the helmet. Yep, or or i'd or I'd
be like, hey, you want to come hang out?

Speaker 9 (01:40:37):
We can listen to Counting Crows back in my cars.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
Always works, always.

Speaker 9 (01:40:46):
Early two you like play no no, no, early two thousands,
you break out August and everything after their putty man there, Puddy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
It wasn't my thing, but I knew what to do
to get him. I knew what to do to get it.
So what what happened after? After Sammy came out. Was
there anything else with Brett?

Speaker 8 (01:41:09):
I finally got physical? Brett smiled.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Nobody got physical with Brett though, No, no, no, Well remember.

Speaker 8 (01:41:17):
My good friend who works fro the Lloyd's of London
told me that there was no doctor on this earth
that will sign up on Brett Heart's insurance policy.

Speaker 12 (01:41:25):
They were that they wanted Bronson reed to squash Bratt
and that was coming out before that segment even happened.
And I'm like, man, if that's the thing that's really
going to get a lot of uh out of eyes
on Bronson reed if he did something like that, But
it didn't happen.

Speaker 8 (01:41:42):
So it is what it is, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
So Brett was just literally out there for I've gone
through to get the.

Speaker 8 (01:41:52):
They Canada where in Canada?

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Canadians?

Speaker 8 (01:41:55):
And I'm Canadian? How was everybody here tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
A Canadian champion?

Speaker 8 (01:42:01):
I was the best there is the best of us
bus really till that's sun of a bitch, Bill Goldberg.
Keep but I'm still a champion. Champions and champions and
champions like me? Or why you love rustling because I
was a champion?

Speaker 12 (01:42:16):
Did you guys see the backlash on Brett Hart where
people were saying that he's a trader now because a
all this stuff with Martha for all in and how
dare Brett Hart show up in w W E and
not support.

Speaker 8 (01:42:30):
Oh it's hilarious, didn't he Brett?

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Brett came. Well, First of all, Brett hates Aw. He's
been very clear about this subject. But Brett also Brett
also hates Martha Hart. He's also been very clear about
that subject.

Speaker 8 (01:42:43):
But of course he does.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Of course he does. But yeah, Brett, the only person
I saw called Brett a trader was aw Neckbeard, which
you know, you know people that were ironically saying it.

Speaker 8 (01:42:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's where we live now.

Speaker 12 (01:43:03):
We have people yelling at Ricky Morton that he doesn't
know anything, and we have people calling Brett Hart a
trader for not being with another company, so.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
A trade another company that he has no affiliation with whatsoever. No,
because because ae W has posthumously signed signed Owen HoTT
to its ROSTA page.

Speaker 9 (01:43:23):
You know, like I took Okay, there was that moment
when he first came in the ring and he went
to Wade Barrett and you could tell that he asked
where the hardcam was and Wade Barrett just kind of
politely pointed him in the direction and it went on,
And I thought that was kind of an endearing moment, right,
like I I really like.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
I thought it was a good moment for both of them.

Speaker 9 (01:43:41):
But then I saw people like ripping on bread online
about it and saying like, oh, look, he didn't even
know where the hardcam.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Was blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 8 (01:43:49):
Meanwhile, guess what your favorite wrestler doesn't know where the
hard camera is shut out?

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Yeah, you know when you.

Speaker 8 (01:44:00):
Even have Moron to wrestle every week on AW who
have no idea that the heart him exists.

Speaker 6 (01:44:07):
Yeah, they do, because it's the only person on that
side of the arena.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
When I think about when I think about Brett get
when I think about Owen being posthumously inducted into the
AAW roster, I think about, apparently with the Mormons, there's
something that you can do where you can posthumously like
baptize somebody who's dead into the Mormon faith, which is
like the thing that I really want to do for

(01:44:33):
people that I hate, like like like after they die,
like pretend I'm being like gracious and have them baptized
into the Mormon church without decond sent But that's what
ae W is like when it when it inducts people
like oh, in onto the aa W roster, like and
here here's what they're gonna sign Terry Funk any day.
Now Here, here's.

Speaker 9 (01:44:53):
Something that everyone, all these AW fans you talk about
Owen and act like he would be in a W now.
Owen Hart right now would have nothing to do with
wrestling if he was still alive. Ready, he was ready
to get out of wrestling when he died. He was
he was working to get out of wrestling. So the
idea that he would suddenly be in a W now

(01:45:15):
is insane.

Speaker 8 (01:45:16):
It's crazy. Oh, I don't think anyone thinks he'd be
that now.

Speaker 9 (01:45:18):
They did, well, I mean they think he'd be he'd
be associated. I don't mean he'd be an active wrestler.
But they say Eddie Guerrero would be.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
In a W two. You know, Eddie Garrel would certainly
not be. By the way, how bad must Eddie Guerrero's
daughter have been at the performance center to get released?
Eddie Guerrero's daughter like, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:45:42):
Well, do you think that was because of all the
back and forth with VICKI and her husband was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Back and forth. Oh, there was like very public back
It was.

Speaker 12 (01:45:51):
Real ugly, real fast, and then it disappeared just as
fast too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
But was that when she was that when she got uh,
when she got released.

Speaker 8 (01:45:59):
I believe she left on her own accord.

Speaker 9 (01:46:01):
Yeah, I think she she put I think she put
out something that said that she just didn't want to
be in the business anyway, Like it wasn't for her.

Speaker 12 (01:46:07):
It was messy though.

Speaker 8 (01:46:10):
Gus he was trying to put something together for her
and bull and and she left it and all want
to all want the poops. But then we got Bullfit,
so it's you know, it kind of worked out.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Yeah, it worked out.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
All right, So let me see what else we've got
on the docket for today. Oh so, apparently there was
a backstage fight all out. According to some oh.

Speaker 12 (01:46:33):
Punk, he came back just to punch everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
He showed up. He showed up in the back like
he just showed the bunch jack Berry. Apparently it involved
a member of the crew and a wrestler that was
not on the show.

Speaker 8 (01:46:48):
Yeah, that was punks. The skies.

Speaker 18 (01:46:51):
The Enzo hair piece going, Yeah, no, I put it in,
I put it in the cold open where I said
Britt Baker is having a broken bottle knife fight with
a boom mic operator in the back.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
But I just hope Tony releases the CCTV footage because
I think we all deserve to see what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:47:13):
Yeah, we all really need to see.

Speaker 9 (01:47:17):
So we all really need to see the Harry Harry
grizzled young veteran fighter fight Caraman in the next stage.

Speaker 6 (01:47:24):
That has to it has to be someone like that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
It can't be anybody, oh, anyone?

Speaker 12 (01:47:28):
Real though, do you think this is more of them
trying to capture Buzz because the really odd thing about
this one is that it doesn't feel the way. Obviously
the CM punk and Jack Perry and all that stuff
went down, that was something that people saw happening before
their very eyes for a very long time. And even
the Britt Baker MJF stuff had some more behind it,

(01:47:50):
like there was some more meat on that bone. This
one almost feels like, oh, look, our company is having
another fight backstage. Wink wink, time to talk about the
company again.

Speaker 9 (01:48:03):
They were going to work it, though, I would why
wouldn't they just have it be like Max attacked somebody
like he did on you know what I mean, like.

Speaker 12 (01:48:08):
Because they didn't forward think about it, which is apropos
for what AW does.

Speaker 8 (01:48:14):
Now they're going to like release.

Speaker 12 (01:48:15):
Little facts like they did when the Young Bucks were
telling their story on the reality show. Like it's just
gonna be little pieces here and there that they're going
to release and try and get people involved. But I
don't know if I really believe that this is I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:48:28):
I was I was one who was not really necessarily
buying into the Britt MJF stuff at first because it
happened so close to all in and all out, and
I was just like, oh, this seems like them working
it a little bit, so it's possible. I mean, anything's
possible with Tony who knows really, I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:48:44):
Well, the only reason I even believe that one now
is because nothing came of it.

Speaker 6 (01:48:48):
Yeah, he really, He really is Vince Russo.

Speaker 9 (01:48:52):
Like when you really look at his booking and you
really break it down, it is total Vince Russo booking.

Speaker 6 (01:48:58):
And they don't you're so funny because him.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
And Vince Russo hate each other.

Speaker 9 (01:49:02):
Yeah, I know, and I'm surprised Vince Russo doesn't love
a w but he doesn't because they focus on wrestling
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
That's the only difference is that Vincer didn't like wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
But.

Speaker 8 (01:49:14):
Bro Crash TV.

Speaker 9 (01:49:17):
In terms of storytelling and stuff, the same person. They
like the same stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Who what would be the funniest person on the a
W roster? For for this to have been like them
getting in the fight, who is the funniest member of
the roster that it could have been?

Speaker 12 (01:49:36):
Oh that's are you confusing? How sad? Because that would
be very.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
It would be funny in that would be funny in
that instance if it was FTR Bald and the boom
mic operator beat him up.

Speaker 8 (01:49:50):
Okay, catering chef just one.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Hit kaot him and then f t I Hair pulled
his gun out.

Speaker 6 (01:50:01):
The actual funniest person will probably be Danausen.

Speaker 9 (01:50:03):
The idea that they actually on the roster, Yeah, the
idea that they actually brought him in to do something
for once since they're in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
I thought he got released. I thought he got released.
It wasn't that a thing.

Speaker 9 (01:50:15):
No, No, they still sell his shirts, they still make
money off him. He just he just wrestles indies every
once in a while because they never use him. But yeah,
he's still there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
I was, you know what, when Dan Housen showed up.
The thing that I was most scared of was that
they would use him, And so I'm really glad that
they didn't. I should think who else would be really funny?
Marco Stunt if he's still No, he wasn't re signed, right,
he was just there that one night, right.

Speaker 6 (01:50:47):
Yeah, Peter Avalon would be good. That's a good one.

Speaker 9 (01:50:50):
Permission and possible reviews in the chat, uh Daltons Rijo
Mercedes always a good choice.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
Well that it was somebody. It was somebody on the show, somebod.
They didn't have a match the show. So it was
like Orange Cassidy or something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:51:04):
Oh, that's it, Misson impossible, just got it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Co Cobana that would be the fun. Yeah, that's it.
That's it. That's one hundred h it's Co Cobanta choking
out Jack Perry. That's the thing that brings them back
together as friends.

Speaker 8 (01:51:24):
They become friends again. Yes, that Jack Perry turd. Yes,
what do you want to do today? Choke out Jack Perry?
Become best friends.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Again.

Speaker 8 (01:51:39):
That's awesome. Do you still have that?

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Do you still have that bank account with your mom.

Speaker 12 (01:51:46):
So there was there was one piece of news that
I want to talk about this tomorrow with keV, but
I wanted to bring it up with you guys today
and I thought it was interesting because I'm not sure
if I saw people talking about it, but you guys
know the PWI five hundred came out.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Yeah, we were going to talk about it.

Speaker 12 (01:52:02):
One of the interestings that was the interesting things on
there is that Rowan Rains is not in the p
WI five hundred. He did not wrestle six matches in
a year.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
Interesting.

Speaker 12 (01:52:14):
He wrestled I think it was a total of nine
or ten matches, but five or six of those matches
or yeah, he wrestled five singles matches, so he didn't
get in with the number six, so he wasn't even
included in the p WI five hundred. And all the
other matches that he had were tag team matches and
those don't count.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
Did they count if you're a tag team wrestler.

Speaker 12 (01:52:36):
Uh no, they have a separate team, separate Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:52:42):
Interesting, So yeah, that's pretty wildly I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
You know, look, I am I am of the mindset
that Roman reigns should not work more than six matches
in a year. With where he was at as that
kind of champion that he was, where he was, this
he was, you know, despite the fact that it was
the Rocks name, he was the final boss. He was
you don't get You don't get to him until you've
defeated all of the minions, until you run the garblet.

(01:53:06):
He's the guy at the top of the tower and
you have to fight your way up to him. But
not everyone gets and not everyone gets there.

Speaker 12 (01:53:13):
But isn't it weird to think that literally one of
the biggest feuds that w w E has had in decades,
one of the biggest drawing feuds that they've had in decades,
and one of the competitors that was a part of
that is not even included on a best of lists
to because either you know, the Rock doesn't regularly with Rollins.

Speaker 8 (01:53:35):
Right, they they left the Rollins off of the list
because he was he went on injury. But this year's list,
you know what I'm saying. This happened a few years ago.
Oh okay, where and Rollins was involved in like super
major stories. But because he went out, when he went out,

(01:53:57):
he missed the list, right, That's it's it happens. Yeah,
it's you're kind of hard perscle listen. Roman Reins is
the biggest professional wrestler on the planet. The rock is
like a weird little hybrid thing, but Roman Reigns is
the actual man. So it is weird that he isn't
on the list.

Speaker 12 (01:54:15):
But you know, I think he would have at least
put him at like even if it couldn't make the
regular rankings, Kevin put him on the list, then.

Speaker 8 (01:54:25):
I would have given him little as Right.

Speaker 6 (01:54:27):
Yeah, I would have.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
I would have made I would have put him in
the top ten, and I would have had it be like,
I would have had to say something like, normally this
is the this is the criteria, but for the first
time ever, we had to change it because of these
extenuating circumstances.

Speaker 6 (01:54:45):
Right, sure, why not, But you can't say.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
That he was not one of the top five hundred
wrestlers in the world.

Speaker 12 (01:54:51):
Right literally drew probably the biggest gate out of anybody
else on that list.

Speaker 8 (01:54:56):
Well, they stick to their rules, and they stick to
their rules hard, and they and they weather the storm.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Yeah, and guys, the p WI five hundred, please don't
yell at Dave Shearer and Mike Johnson about it. They
are Pro Wrestling Insider, not Pro Wrestling Illustrated, So please
don't yell at them about this. They had nothing to
do with.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
It, or.

Speaker 6 (01:55:20):
Leave Bill after alone. He has nothing to do with
it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
I think I think, yeah, I think Shearer like had
to comment like or maybe it was the pro Mike Johnson.
They were like, guys, please stop, it's not us.

Speaker 12 (01:55:35):
That's funny, that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
But you know what, let's let's take a look at
the top ten. I wanted to take a look at
this together today, all right. So number one Cody wroats
he is pro eighteen twenty twenty three rank number ten.
He was number ten last year entrance music Kingdom by down.
I don't know why the entrance music is important. So

(01:55:59):
swear Strickland number two. Do we agree with this? Did
we agree with Cody at number one? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:56:05):
Cody, I agree Tony number one.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
I cannot abide. I swear Strickland at number two. I
think top ten definitely, but number two no, Yeah. And
the reason Coaching was.

Speaker 9 (01:56:16):
Number ten last year was because he was injured in
for you know, for a little bit. And this is
kind of a mark list. I mean, you know, they
use window losses and that kind of thing.

Speaker 12 (01:56:25):
So yeah, the fact that he lost WrestleMania last year
is why he was at ten too.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
So yeah, look at Cody's path to number one from
seven to now number one, seventy two, seventy nine, forty eight,
forty one, thirty five, twenty three, fifty three, eighty two,
sixty five, one hundred and eleven. That was back in
twenty sixteen. I guess that was the startest years, uh
thirty three, eight, fifteen, seven eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
Six and ten? So that's something. Swear Strickland path number two,
four hundred and thirty five, three forty three. He was
in the three forty two years in a row two
fifty eight, two, twenty seven, twenty one, two forty six,
one ninety one, one eighty five, eighty two and one
hundred and twelve. He got in number two after having

(01:57:13):
not been under a hundred, right except for one year,
he's never even been in the top eighty one people before.
I just I don't think that he's number two. I'm sorry,
I know, I think I think it was literally it
was number one of them had the top two. One
of them had to be a WWE guy. One of
them had to be an AEW guy. I think that's

(01:57:34):
I think it's political.

Speaker 8 (01:57:36):
I'll give them credit.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
They have.

Speaker 8 (01:57:40):
There have been years where w B has been shut out,
and there have been years where AW hasn't represented. I
I looked at this list. I am thin, I don't
I'm like, really, you think this guy had a good year.
But we'll get there. We'll get there.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
Well, I'm lowest drawing AAW champion of ault time, a
record that's about to be broken by Brian Danielson, and
then that record will then be broken by the person
that wins the title after him. Uh So, anyway, Number
three Will Ausbrey, I don't agree with that. How could
you say this guy is number three over Seth Rollins

(01:58:18):
again deserving in the top ten. I do not agree
with him being number three. Yeah, this is his second
time in the top ten.

Speaker 12 (01:58:25):
Though, it feels like they're trying to be nice. I
don't even know how political it is, because I don't
know if there's any kind of like affiliation, But it
even feels like Swerve. As much as I like Swerve,
giving him number two is probably what he deserves if
he was handled by the company better well, aw has

(01:58:45):
not done their best by Swerve at least not in
mine at all.

Speaker 8 (01:58:49):
That the mindset is impact on TV. Not if we
think the TV is good, that's all I would say.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
You have to look at it.

Speaker 8 (01:58:58):
If that is the case, then they Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
You can make the case for Swerve at number two
if that's the case. Will Osprey, though I don't know.
I think there's other guys in this top ten that
deserve to be over him. Seth Rollins number four. Uh,
Tetsuya Nito number five.

Speaker 8 (01:59:18):
Yeah, they always do that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
Yeah, Okay, Damian Priest at number six, Damian Priest number
he was four forty seven, three sixty two, seven, one,
sixty six, one eight, eighty five, fifty seven and seventy one.
Now this is his first time in the top fifty.

Speaker 8 (01:59:38):
Year guys over a year he has and.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Then number seven and number eight m J F and
John Moxley. Yeah whatever, Well, I can't stand either of
these guys. Gunther and okay Gunher at number nine, John
Moxley is over Gunther. Yep, whoever the hell this is
is over gun there. Will Osprey is over gun there.

(02:00:03):
Seth Rollins is over gun there. He shouldn't even be.

Speaker 6 (02:00:07):
I don't know guns lost to Sammy, so I'd put him.

Speaker 8 (02:00:09):
At You have to look at it within context of
the range of dates too, though, so I will say
just just remember that too.

Speaker 12 (02:00:18):
It's it's impact and also accomplishment, like accomplishment is one
of the qualifiers. And who has a better accomplishment right
now in wrestling than gun there like literally taking right
now two titles and now on his third title, to
taking that to heights that nobody's ever held the title
for as long a win loss record. He's just won
every match except for Sammy.

Speaker 8 (02:00:41):
I don't think Gunther was world champion when they would
have been done with the list. So he's still okay.

Speaker 12 (02:00:45):
He was last year, he was first to August first.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
Yeah, he was ranking the before last year.

Speaker 13 (02:00:54):
Right.

Speaker 9 (02:00:54):
So I have an interesting question, and I think there's
somebody here who can answer it from a good perspective.

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
What is the importance of this list to indie workers? keV?

Speaker 8 (02:01:08):
I mean you can, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
There's no bigger I've heard guys brag about it.

Speaker 8 (02:01:13):
Yeah, there's there's no bigger mark in wrestling than a wrestler.
So you know, if you get on it. Yeah, sure,
it's a big deal. But you can also kind of
like in the lower ranks, you can you can you
can you can find a way to weasel your way
onto the list. So that there's two ways to do it.
They either they put you on or you can find

(02:01:33):
a way to weasel on. If you get put on,
it's a big deal. Is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
How does one weasel onto this list?

Speaker 8 (02:01:42):
I think you can like submit your own name and
just keep doing it and doing it and doing it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:48):
Yeah, or you're just you're if you're blue cane, you
can weasel your way on.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
I was gonna get to that.

Speaker 8 (02:01:57):
Uh so it is possible. So it is if you
get there on merit, it's a big deal. I mean, listen,
it's you know, this is one of a very old publication.
Everybody you know, it's you know, it's it's still a
big forty five years.

Speaker 12 (02:02:10):
I think they're celebrating, right Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
Yeah, number ten Mystico Sure Sinkara Mystico.

Speaker 8 (02:02:20):
Wow, big things in triple accounting. He's had a hell
of a he's had a hell of a year in
triple A.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
Yeah, he's he's he might be. I mean, before he
went to WWE.

Speaker 9 (02:02:33):
He was one of the biggest stars in Mexico and
when he went back he was he was accepted.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
So yeah, and then we get here, we get down here,
Jay Usso is uh well okay, Samoa Joe, Sammy Zane,
Drew McIntyre Drew McIntire at thirteen, Brian Brian Danielson, Moose

(02:02:58):
I put. I would have put Moose a little higher.

Speaker 8 (02:03:01):
We should have been the way higher.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
Who should have at least been number ten?

Speaker 8 (02:03:05):
Yeah? Easy over back tire until WrestleMania had an awful year.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
Yeah, that's true, that is true. He'll be uh, he
should be a lot higher up next year. Sonata ja
Uso at seventeen, Eo del Vikingo, Mustafa Ali in the
top twenty. Why what the hell did he do all year?

Speaker 8 (02:03:30):
Had a really good year in Ta Yeah, but it
wasn't even the full year though it wasn't That year
was in w w.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Eddie Kingston at number twenty. Oh did it over Okada?
Over Okada at twenty one?

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Eddie?

Speaker 9 (02:03:48):
How have we not talked about Eddie Kingston going online
and crying because they wouldn't let him use paper up
a plastic bag in his match?

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
Did you see, No, I didn't hear about that.

Speaker 9 (02:03:59):
Yeah, And Kingston went on, I was like, bro, I've
I've been I've been requested to use all this stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:04:04):
I would have used needles and plastic bags.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
And now they let these guys.

Speaker 8 (02:04:09):
Because no one wants to get suffocated with the stink
of Newports in their nose.

Speaker 6 (02:04:15):
Because you don't know this is fake, you'll actually kill people.

Speaker 1 (02:04:20):
Orange Cassidy number twenty four over Adam Copeland at twenty
six over l A. Knight.

Speaker 8 (02:04:28):
Yeah, I was, well, I guess La Christian La Knight
did kind of get screwed when the rock showed up.

Speaker 6 (02:04:35):
Christian should be top ten Christians.

Speaker 8 (02:04:39):
Who had a better who really like out of outside
of the permanent main event or class, who had a
better year than La Knight until Wressell mate Mm hmm, yeah,
no one, but I guess might have been the only
one that I would have picked.

Speaker 12 (02:04:53):
But that was because he was undefeated.

Speaker 1 (02:04:55):
La Knight Edge Christian Dragon off All after Orange Cassidy
and Eddie Kingston yep well, Mark Brisco, Mark Brisco underneath
Orange Cassidy.

Speaker 8 (02:05:10):
Lit'sen Well, that's that's Tony's fault because see books. Orange
Cassidy like he's John Cena. Yea guy who know sold
what what? Three pile drivers on the stairs?

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
And where the hell is Dominic?

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (02:05:27):
That's good questions nine sixty nine.

Speaker 12 (02:05:32):
They have Dominic all the way down.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
Stereo at sixty nine, spin Baler at sixty eight.

Speaker 6 (02:05:39):
Yeah, well, I mean they're they're wins in life.

Speaker 8 (02:05:44):
Wins and losses matter on this list. Yeah it's yes, Yes,
Dominic is the most overheeled in all of wrestling, complete
with a reheel turn, just freshen them up a little bit.
The But wins and losses do matter on this list.

Speaker 12 (02:05:58):
The explanation I got was the reason why Dominic is
so low is because the majority of his matches were
tag team matches, which don't go.

Speaker 1 (02:06:09):
Well. At least at least there's some justice in the world.
Chris Jericho is sitting at number ninety.

Speaker 8 (02:06:14):
You got them. There are rules to the list. The
rules matter, The rules matter on the list. That's why
you can't get That's why you can't get super upset
about it. Want you to know how it works.

Speaker 1 (02:06:26):
Let's see who else? Who else? Wait?

Speaker 6 (02:06:31):
If they fight?

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
I thought I thought the women had their own list.

Speaker 8 (02:06:34):
No, there are many women that have intergender matches.

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Where the hell is Ria Ripley?

Speaker 8 (02:06:40):
She doesn't, Yeah, she's not.

Speaker 1 (02:06:42):
No, it's only it's only for indigender matches for me.

Speaker 8 (02:06:46):
Yeah, she just beat up because I don't think that
was a match.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
Okay. Matt Riddle made it at ninety six.

Speaker 12 (02:06:53):
A lot more women on this list, though, I think
I saw like forty of them.

Speaker 5 (02:06:57):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
Effie. Oh yeah, I mean, all right, I'm about done
with this list. What's scrape at the bottom of the barrel?

Speaker 9 (02:07:09):
Now?

Speaker 8 (02:07:10):
H yeah, Well, once you get out of the top thirty,
there's really nothing to see here.

Speaker 17 (02:07:14):
Hey.

Speaker 9 (02:07:15):
Jack Vaughan made a good good friend of the show.
Jack Vaughan made the list. That's yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
wait no, that's that shing gero.

Speaker 1 (02:07:26):
Oh no, he's in three hundred.

Speaker 6 (02:07:29):
He's in the four hundred, one hundred. Oh I I
don't know where he's in the four hundreds.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
I know.

Speaker 6 (02:07:35):
And Ben Ben Bishop did not make the list. He
has been down hilariously online for the past couple of days.

Speaker 1 (02:07:43):
So, I mean, I've seen indie guys make this their
entire gimmick that they were like number like four hundred
and eighty on the p w I five hundred and
like they would talk about it in promos. He'd be like,
I was number four hundred eighty, and the guy that
the fighting would be like, yeah, it was number three
hundred and sixty.

Speaker 9 (02:07:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's what That's what been the Bishop the
thing where he made a video where is a guy
talking about how he doesn't care about being on the list,
and then he made the list and his became mister
four sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (02:08:12):
That is funny all the way down, by the way
to number five hundred. I wanted to point out number
five hundred is Blue Cane Meme. His name is Meme Memes.
How is this allowed he changed his name to He's
still Cane, He's still one hund intellectual property Caine. I mean, look,

(02:08:37):
I lived through the era on the Indies of the
one Warrior Nation. You remember, you get one orientation?

Speaker 8 (02:08:43):
How can you how can you not remember one Warrior
Nation running four four thousand miles an hour landing on
his face would be laughed out of the building. I
say about One Warrior Nation is he was five inches
a minimum shorter than the ultimate Warrior and about thirty

(02:09:05):
pounds heavier. And people still believe that and he would
stick up promoters like he was the Ultimate Warrior, like,
we do you, this guy's clearly fake. What are you
talking about? It to the to the point that he
looks like the Ultimate Warrior.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
The Ultimate Warrior actually caught wind of him and suit him,
and he they let them.

Speaker 8 (02:09:25):
They let the One Warrior Nation trade trademark lapse, so
one Warrior Nation continued to exist.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
I remember war Warrior writing about one wriation on his blog, which,
by the way, that was a blog to remember.

Speaker 8 (02:09:38):
Oh my goodness, I wish I could find it. The
Warrior blog was sensational. I remember back it had to
the early ninety eight, maybe super late ninety seven. There
was the there was the never end, the Ultimate Warriors
returning to raw when you're going around, and he decided
to respond to it, and the meltdown is epic, like

(02:10:00):
curdled milk and putriot sola. Vince McMahon, I used to
know my heart, but it's been entirely too long. Oh
my goodness, all.

Speaker 9 (02:10:08):
Right's going crazy asking who Blue Cane is to look
about it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
Okay, it's just it's a memey. It's over in Britain.

Speaker 9 (02:10:17):
It's a guy who he's cane, but ice is basically
his entire gimmick or snow uh and he's just comes
out and does the cane stuff and that's it.

Speaker 6 (02:10:27):
That's all it is. There's nothing to do.

Speaker 1 (02:10:30):
I'll be getting the super chats after our next segment,
so make sure you guys are getting them in. I'm
gonna just do them. You know, we're getting enough where
I can actually like do them in like chunks. So yeah,
please guys super chat in if you want your thoughts
right alout on the air. And okay, I want to
do one of our favorite segments of the week. It
is time that Dave mounts a cringe. Thank you awful

(02:11:02):
for our brand new Dave Meltzer cringe intro. I know
it's the best. It seems like every week we get
some Dave Meltzer cringe. This week is particularly heinous because

(02:11:26):
Dave Meltzer went on a rant about how ahead of
the curve he is.

Speaker 8 (02:11:30):
Did you guys hear this? I saw this.

Speaker 1 (02:11:32):
So there's two little bit. There's two bits of Dave
Meltzer cringe. I wanted to share this week. Let's share
this and share a screen and X and here we go.
All right, so first, yeah, we'll go with this one first.
Dave Meltzer's So, somebody says, why can't you just answer

(02:11:52):
a question about Dynamite's poor ratings without mentioning WWE. That's
not unreasonable. Dave Meltzer response. I was just with a
TV producer yesterday and he was laughing about this. And now,
I'll be sure. I think I mentioned this over here.
I said, I'll be sure it was a TV producer
or was it just some guy on a discord server
claiming to be a TV producer, because that would have
been enough to Dave. Aw has declined in ratings. We

(02:12:15):
write about it, talk about it constantly, have said why,
but also always made clear the ratings were good, They're
not good.

Speaker 8 (02:12:22):
Good, They're not good.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
The guy was laughing about how people think those numbers
are bad when in the TV world they're considered great.
AEW Dynamite for the week of eight twenty six to
nine one was the number two rated entertainment show on cable,
behind only Raw out of how many entertainment shows on
cable per week? How many of the people who ended
up being so wrong told their fan base why didn't they, sir?

Speaker 8 (02:12:46):
This is a Wendy's right, all right, then.

Speaker 12 (02:12:53):
Illusion that there is there that you can obviously see
through the metrics that the ratings are declining week to week,
the gauged interest through social media declines week to week.
But because there's some kind of a metric that this
magical TV producer says that, oh no, this is good.
Look they're they're topping their time slot, it doesn't mean

(02:13:14):
that the company isn't declining. You don't want to bet
at the level, especially when aaw just a few years
ago would have been way up here in that same
exact time slot to sit there and denounce it like,
oh but they're still doing good, They're still doing great.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 8 (02:13:31):
Look, it wasn't wrong.

Speaker 12 (02:13:33):
Everybody wants to get off.

Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
I wasn't wrong. That's that's what he boils down to.
Dave Meltzer has the reason why he is so at it,
why he clings to aew like a spider monkey on
a branch. Oh yeah, is because he has said for
years that if somebody brought the Japanese style of wrestling
to a major wrestling company with a cable deal, it

(02:13:56):
would blow the WWE out of the water. And he
is learning that is not the case. He can not
handle it.

Speaker 8 (02:14:04):
He Yeah, that's it. It's his entire being is predicated
around not being wrong. He wanted the Japanese style, not
just the Japanese style, but the SoCal PW gorilla style
that was this was the wave of the future. You
don't know what you're miss missing, and he got it,

(02:14:25):
and no one wants it to.

Speaker 1 (02:14:26):
The point where if you like, we have learned over
the years that if you want Dave Meltson to report something,
you just have to tell him that you are somebody
that you're not and tell him what he wants to hear.
And that's all he's gonna need, right, that's all he
needs to run with it, because what was it. Somebody
reached out to him saying there there was somebody from
NJPW telling them what he wanted to hear, and he

(02:14:48):
ran with that. Yep, you know he got somebody.

Speaker 6 (02:14:53):
He got mad that he got mad at Wrestling Inc.

Speaker 1 (02:14:56):
For reporting the story too, not mad at the guy
that the condom, not mad at himself for getting con
mad at the people that reported it. Of course that's
Dave for you. All right, So now let's listen to
this because this is just ridiculous.

Speaker 15 (02:15:16):
There are certain there are definitely things that you can
criticize them for, but as far as the value of
the business.

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
Never talk about the value of AW again. You are
banned from talking about the value of AW. You have
lost the right to talk about the value of AW. Right,
Am I wrong on that one?

Speaker 12 (02:15:38):
I mean, I think he's lost a majority of his
credibility at this point anyways, regardless about just AW about anything. Yeah,
I don't want to hear Dave talk about anything at
this point. Everything is just about sucking in his own fumes.
Like there's nothing that Dave has done that's been prolifically
or profound in a very long time. His bias for

(02:16:01):
AAW is so clear that it kind of mars any
other predictions that he talks about involving any other wrestling.
I mean, you're talking about a guy who is the
cornerstone of wrestling information and wrestling journalism for decades, and
he filled it as the guy that, you know, even
if he was wrong sometimes most of the times he

(02:16:21):
was the guy that got the scoop. He would hear
things before anybody else would. He was in a very
good position to be respected and he's thrown all of
this professional and fan based respect out the window because,
like you just said, because he doesn't want to be wrong.
Because he's put all of his chips into the AAW

(02:16:42):
bowl and the cat's knocketting it onto the floor.

Speaker 8 (02:16:45):
That's what's saying.

Speaker 9 (02:16:47):
Yeah, the last thing that he did, of note is
cause the original all in and he did that by
being wrong, right, he did it. So he has nothing
that he's done in the past ten years or so
that means anything besides that.

Speaker 6 (02:17:03):
And that started because he was wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:17:05):
So you know, people can give people.

Speaker 9 (02:17:08):
I've heard people try to like kind of give him
credit for the beginning of AW because he made that
bet with Cody. But yeah, I mean, if you want
to take credit by being wrong, go ahead. You're enjoy
enjoying that, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
But but who wants to be the guy in history
that was the guy that said to the guy, you'll
never do that, you know, like Charles Lindberg, you'll never
fly across the lane, right, right?

Speaker 8 (02:17:36):
I wants to be that right? Well, why would you
ever want to be that guy?

Speaker 12 (02:17:40):
Oh, I'm the guy that they proved wrong. I'm important. No,
you're an idiot, That's what your position was Dave Meltzer's
position in that role between himself and Cody Rose was
to be the denier, was to be the idiot.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
I think that was the work. Better to be, better
to be Galileo than to be the pope y. You know,
if you have it.

Speaker 15 (02:18:02):
Astounds me because you actually have to like not know
anything about television at all or modern television.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
To not see this.

Speaker 15 (02:18:11):
And yeah, people have been doing this thing for years
and you know, I don't know how many times they
could tell you.

Speaker 1 (02:18:19):
And that's the other thing. Dave Meltzer is the only
person on the planet that understands how television works.

Speaker 8 (02:18:24):
That's just so tough.

Speaker 1 (02:18:26):
I mean, just constant. And you know the person that
he keeps saying doesn't understand how television works Eric Bischoff, Right,
the guy who ran a television production company for decades.

Speaker 8 (02:18:39):
Do you know how many reality TV shows we have
to thank Eric Bischoff for so many On top of
creating Nitro and Thunder and changing how we consume a
professional wrestling.

Speaker 1 (02:18:54):
And shows about Scott Bao not being able to commit.

Speaker 6 (02:18:58):
Oh I love that show.

Speaker 1 (02:19:00):
I really did. I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 8 (02:19:05):
Like what he Ericoff has given us a lot.

Speaker 6 (02:19:11):
He did that one.

Speaker 12 (02:19:14):
I was gonna say, I'm like, Dave is just so
adamant though that TV matters. Look, I'm not saying that
TV ratings don't matter, but their biggest competitor, arguably the
biggest company in the world right now, is moving their
flagship show to streaming online That shows where the money is.
They're not doing this because, like aw fans have said,

(02:19:35):
they're scared of real competition or whatever it is. No,
they're making the move to Netflix because it's financially beneficial
to do so. That's why. Because the days of TV
being king are over, it's over. It's a lot more
important for more eyes to be on your product through
streaming networks, and places like Netflix have such a brand,

(02:19:58):
such a broad expand of people that can tune into
raw that their ratings that they're looking for on TV
are going to be quadrupled in the first week because
so many more people have access to Netflix. So Dave
over here making this argument that a TV producer smoked
a little you know, and told him that everything was

(02:20:19):
great and ay W's doing fine. Maybe that's the truth.
Maybe underneath brass tacks or a microscope, there's some truth
to that, but it doesn't matter when you're literally the
best of something that's dying. TV is dying. Streaming platform,
streaming networks. Being able to watch anything you want on
any device you have is kind of the future. I

(02:20:41):
can watch raw while I'm driving home now, guys.

Speaker 9 (02:20:44):
Literally in my car, Like, yeah, we watched I went
to a drive in movie theater with my kid a
couple of weeks ago and we watched SmackDown in the
parking lot before the movie started.

Speaker 6 (02:20:57):
We got there early enough to watch the entire episode
of SmackDown.

Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
I remember seeing the and this is the thing, like
Dave Meltzer thinks he's he's on like the cutting edge
of everything, and I you know who was on the
cutting edge, Vince for all his faults, Vince. I remember
seeing a clip of Vince at a stockholders meeting and
he was like, eventually our entire product will be available

(02:21:22):
to you through this, and he held his BlackBerry up
and I remember thinking they could get out of here, like, yep, yep.
Two thousand and five. How what was that? Almost a
decade before we actually got the network. The network was
well twenty eleven maybe actually so, yeah, we had on demand,

(02:21:47):
but when he said you were gonna be able to
watch it on your phone, everybody was like, get out
of here. Nobody you know, and Vince knew. Vince knew.
But let's let's see Meltzer continue to make it. Meltzer
gets heated in this one.

Speaker 15 (02:21:57):
By the way, have been doing this thing for years,
and you know, I don't know how many times I
could tell you, you know, and I don't you know,
you guys can all freaking all these guys, all these
podcaster idiots who have been insulting me for all these
years because I'm the one who.

Speaker 1 (02:22:15):
You're a prick. There you go, I have a podcast
or idiot just insulted you. You are a prick.

Speaker 15 (02:22:22):
It's been ahead of the curve and you guys are
still stuck. Ah, all these podcaster idiots who have been
insulting me for all these years because I'm the one
who's been ahead of the curve and you guys are
still stuck, you know, un stuck from like nineteen ninety
or two thousand or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (02:22:40):
Oh my god. Look at the end of the day,
when people say that TV doesn't matter anymore, it's because
streaming matters. But you know what, TV still matters for
aew because aaw was not available on streaming.

Speaker 8 (02:22:53):
Well, it's at the end of the day, Raw was
being very hotly courted by Amazon and Netflix, and Netflix
just had more money. The no one came looking for Dynamite.
No one.

Speaker 1 (02:23:09):
Give that show away right now.

Speaker 12 (02:23:11):
No losing that show too because they're losing Dynamite overseas
in the UK according to Dave because of scheduling and
commercial conflicts. So now they're kind of forcing everybody to
go over to Triller and pay five dollars a month
to watch Dynamite.

Speaker 8 (02:23:28):
And I know we'll probably touch in the later but
like for the delusionals, for the delusional ones out there running,
they're gonna get on Fox. Uh you pay, you pay
Fox to get your content on TV. That's not a
TV deal.

Speaker 15 (02:23:44):
Yeah, man, I mean it's like, the one thing you
can do, every one of you, is that he is
probably not gonna announce this thing for a couple of weeks,
so you can get on board and explain what I
figured this all out before he announces it, and you
can be look like you're gonna do at least can

(02:24:07):
look like you're not completely out of touch, even though
you've been out of touch for the last couple of years,
so anyway, there's a lot more. I'm just, uh what,
just that time it's there.

Speaker 1 (02:24:19):
It's time, you know, good lord, good Lord, you condescending prick.

Speaker 8 (02:24:25):
He had an even bigger Melton at the end of
the week. I don't know if he saw it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:29):
Now, that one he.

Speaker 8 (02:24:34):
He was going at it with Disco, and then he
said that he said that more people have come to
him for advice and how to succeed in wrestling than
then then Disco, and that he knows more about wrestling
than Disco. And then some people are like, yeah, but
you know, Disco was actually on TV and performed at

(02:24:54):
a high level. And I chimed in with and one
of you wrote about the other one being a ratings draw.

Speaker 1 (02:25:01):
You know what he wrote? He wrote, Uh, he he
knows more about wrestling than Disco. He knows more about
TV production than Eric Bischoff. He knows more about quantum
physics than Neil deGrasse.

Speaker 12 (02:25:11):
Tyson's all right, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
I was gonna say what I found out earlier because
of that same argument that he had with Disco was
apparently Apparently Dave Meltzer used to travel across the country
and give professional sports seminars to different colleges, and like

(02:25:32):
Ted talks, like Ted talks about sports franchises. And I
don't know where to find those speeches or seminars, but
I really really would love to find that and play
that sometime.

Speaker 1 (02:25:47):
Anyway, this has been meltzer cringe of the love that
clips so much, the way he he looks like a
baby that you're jangling keys over because Kenny Omega and

(02:26:07):
the Young Bucks are standing in front of him. Oh yeah, goodness,
all right, so Kevin brought it up. I'd like to
bring this up. Actually the room. So the rumor flying
around is that ae W Russell they've they've trademarked AW Shockwave,
which everyone's like, it's gonna be a new show and
it's gonna be on Fox.

Speaker 8 (02:26:27):
It Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:26:29):
Can I just say the last thing that AW needs
right now is another show? How many shows do you need, Tony?
I think this is going to be a replacement show,
replacing Rampage one of them.

Speaker 6 (02:26:44):
Yeah, I think I. I I don't see that.

Speaker 9 (02:26:46):
I see them having the exact same amount of TV
that they have now going into whatever next year.

Speaker 1 (02:26:50):
I think I think that's I think that's correct because
I think that Rampage especially is just the damaged brand name.
And they did give nobody watches.

Speaker 12 (02:26:59):
It was that I heard as well from this is
that they're going to try and merge Rampage and Collision together.

Speaker 1 (02:27:07):
In the no reason for there's no reason for Rampage
to exist. Sorry, there's no reason for Rampage to exist.

Speaker 8 (02:27:14):
Go ahead. I wouldn't be shocked if it was a
recap show because no one's watching this content, so the
you have to at least try to shoot your shots
and condense it all into a one uh one, you know,
one easy to consume hour, you know, you know, akin
to bite this or whatever?

Speaker 1 (02:27:35):
What what what it was called live Wire?

Speaker 8 (02:27:39):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (02:27:39):
Live Wire?

Speaker 8 (02:27:40):
Yeah, came the live Wire. The you have to do
something and I and I don't see and don't I
just there's so much content on A to B unless
you are going to be like live to be content.
Who is going to to be to watch a W
when you have so much else to watch?

Speaker 12 (02:27:59):
Great?

Speaker 8 (02:27:59):
Could you man tna going after a W on two B?

Speaker 1 (02:28:05):
I don't want to see them?

Speaker 9 (02:28:07):
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, Okay, I don't want
to see them spoil to B Personally, I love to be.

Speaker 1 (02:28:16):
And to be is better than them. I get.

Speaker 6 (02:28:19):
When I heard this show, the first thing I pictured
was a late night cable show that they could do
more uncensored type stuff on, like a.

Speaker 12 (02:28:31):
Show and smoking a cigar.

Speaker 9 (02:28:33):
No, no, no, I'm talking about it, like shotgun, Shotgun Saturday,
something like that, you know, kind of their their version
of that.

Speaker 1 (02:28:41):
That's what I got it first. But now the rumor
that they're talking to Fox has got the aw fans
rejoicing because they're like, Aha, they're gonna take WWE's TV.
The Fox has seen the light. Fox was not happy
with Smackdowns numbers, right, Okay, what makes you think Fox
is gonna be good with the AEW numbers?

Speaker 8 (02:29:02):
Two billion people wasn't good enough. I think they want
to touch six hundred thousand and falling.

Speaker 12 (02:29:08):
Uh huh, not unless they're paying.

Speaker 9 (02:29:11):
I mean, look, I think Fox would like wrestling on.
They wanted Raw, they wanted smack Down to go to
f S one and WW didn't you know they got
a better offer from USA. I could see if it's
dirt cheap, I get absolutely see them picking up an
hour of AW and throwing it on at midnight.

Speaker 1 (02:29:30):
Absolutely on F S one or on two B. They're
not putting it on Fox.

Speaker 6 (02:29:35):
Oh no, no, of course not. I didn't know we
were even I didn't even know that was a possibility.

Speaker 1 (02:29:40):
In this conference, the AW fans heard Fox and they
thought it was getting SmackDown's time slot.

Speaker 8 (02:29:46):
It'll be the especially Window Lickery group has been screaming
that it's going to be on Fox in the placing WWE.

Speaker 9 (02:29:55):
No way it'll be. It'll be it'll be F S one,
maybe FX. I can see maybe FX at like one
o'clock in the morning or something. It's not going to
be a primetime slot. It's not going to be on
a network, you know, a broadcast network. It's going to
be buried somewhere so they can because you know, every
network has they have to do make goods, right, they
have to they have to promote their own stuff somewhere.

(02:30:17):
And uh, when ESPN is giving deals to tire Wrestling, sure,
I think Tony can get something on one of those channels.

Speaker 8 (02:30:26):
But well, I mean.

Speaker 12 (02:30:29):
You said in a tweet, I mean, since we're talking
about the networks and stuff right now too, because I
mean this is still on the table. I think you said, Look,
I'm sorry if this upsets people, but AW is going
to get a TV deal. It's going to happen. The
company isn't folding, it's just a it's just a matter
of how much they get. And my response was, and
you didn't say WB, but I did, so maybe I

(02:30:51):
misconstrued it, but this kind of goes into play with
what we were talking about, the network get a Warner
Brothers deal. I mean, I'm suspicious, as everyone should point.
I totally agree with that, but I would not be
surprised if Tony Kahan buys TV time other promotions do it.

Speaker 1 (02:31:11):
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked either. I do think they
are gonna work something out with WBD. I think at
the end of the day, Tony is gonna take this
right to the wire. I think the only thing that
I can think of is either they're offering him no
money or the thing that I think would be the
big no go for him is And I'm just basing
this on the programming that I'm seeing being put on

(02:31:33):
the networks right now. They want him to go to
True TV, right and he doesn't work because he's obsessed
with being on TNT and TBS because that's what WCW was,
and you know, and he has belts named after the networks.
He knows that you have to create the true TV championship.

Speaker 8 (02:31:51):
If if he was going the truth title, yes, but
you know he's.

Speaker 1 (02:31:55):
Got he's got, and then what the true TV championship
in the in the two B championship.

Speaker 8 (02:31:59):
I mean, this doesn't look good.

Speaker 12 (02:32:01):
I mean he's still saying, you know, it's in the
bad guys and we got the deal, and it's you know,
it's just it's it's gonna happen. But there's there's nothing
come of this. It's just a bunch of hype coming
from Tony Kahan. And for as long as this has
been discussed with David Zaslov and everything else like that,
the fact that they still haven't made anything public is

(02:32:21):
it's kind of worrisome.

Speaker 1 (02:32:22):
Suspiciously, it's September.

Speaker 8 (02:32:25):
Well, every every day that goes by, they are at
a weaker position. But I've been saying this for months.
I think they got the deal ages ago, and he
is unhappy with it, and he is begging and pleating,
He's begging and pleading for a little bit extra and he.

Speaker 6 (02:32:41):
Went or he wants to make the announcement.

Speaker 9 (02:32:43):
He wants to he he thinks that the Shockwave announcement
is going to make the WBD announcement that look so bad.

Speaker 6 (02:32:51):
I was, you know, all right, No, it's done.

Speaker 12 (02:32:55):
There's there was a rumor that was floating around a
while ago that maybe the network wanted to put their
own creative people in is. Do you think that that
might be part of this?

Speaker 1 (02:33:04):
Uh, anything is possible at this point, Okay, right, all right,
I mean it's it's monkeys negotiating with monkeys. They're all idiots.

Speaker 9 (02:33:13):
W b D is a terrible company negotiating with a
w who is a terrible company. They're not We're not
talking about you know, these high level negotiations.

Speaker 12 (02:33:22):
Well, has it ever happened before for any other TV
based company?

Speaker 8 (02:33:28):
I want to say yes. I say I think didn't them.
I think T and t n A had spiked people
assisting with production. Okay, and I'm pretty sure we're well obviously.

Speaker 1 (02:33:45):
Yeah, because because Spike, they didn't want they didn't want
to deal with with Vindrusso.

Speaker 8 (02:33:52):
And even for again, I wish I see if I
can get a hold of my of my Buddy's brother
because he was an executive for for Spike at the time.
He was the one who smarted me up to the
fact that you know, TNA they got you know they
they they essentially made a devil's bargain. They got their
slot and they did well, but they weren't making a

(02:34:14):
diamond for the advertising at all. Want to Spike the
you know, they were essentially just a glorified, glorified infomercial slot.

Speaker 6 (02:34:23):
Let me and everyone in the chat is of course
saying w CW.

Speaker 12 (02:34:27):
Yeah, let me clarify my statement on that with the
WCW stuff, because I'm not saying w CW was already
owned by Turner when they made all those decisions start
putting creative people in there. I'm saying, has there ever
been a deal that was struck where saying, hey, Spike
is going to run this company with you, this is
the deal, And I don't know if they've ever done
that before.

Speaker 6 (02:34:47):
That was what I want to say that.

Speaker 9 (02:34:48):
I want to say that when USA at one point
negotiated with raw I want to say that Viacom had
a thing where they were able to or they like
w W would hire writer they I think that's where
they got like what's the name or the what's his name?

Speaker 6 (02:35:04):
The rapper the comedian who.

Speaker 8 (02:35:06):
Died a little while ago, Patriso.

Speaker 9 (02:35:08):
Yeah, I want to say that that was kind of
in that realm where USA was like, hey, can you
use this guy?

Speaker 6 (02:35:13):
And Vince was like sure. It was more like that
type of thing than you know.

Speaker 8 (02:35:18):
I think they still reserve that right because that's USA.
It was where they were the ones who hired Russo
to consult for them on how to make ROW better
during the uh, you know, during the during the pre
Thunderdome days when we were at our darkest.

Speaker 1 (02:35:32):
Yeah, yeah, twenty nineteen Row, Remember that was Vince Russo
was a consultant, And I remember Brian Last saying like,
it's like, Russo's right in these shows. It turned out
that he was. But yeah, so somebody on Twitter, and
I take this with a grain of salt, guys, because
I have no idea how credible this guy is. This
guy Andrew Chapados from Andrews's TV soa I was as

(02:35:55):
close to the AW Warner Bros. Discovery deal. Tell me
AAW was on their back foot on top of one
who's already having about twenty five percent from the original deal,
AAW likely had to give up more equity to get
the new deal done. Aw apparently didn't receive any other
third party offers, which obviously hurt the negotiations.

Speaker 8 (02:36:13):
Ratings have cooled off.

Speaker 1 (02:36:14):
Whether or not it's from the product or recent controversial
moves remains to be seen. I've reached out to aw
F comment will update with applicable responses. Now, this has
been widely like Fightful jumped all over this to say,
because it's contradictory to what Fightful has been reporting. So
Fightful was discrediting this up and down. People are already
you know, calling this guy every name in the book
because apparently he's kind of like more of a conservative guy.

(02:36:36):
I don't know, I've never heard of him before. I've
never heard of the Blaze. Oh okay, okay, so yep,
all right, so that makes sense. But yeah, I mean, look,
if if like everyone from Meltzer to SAP, they always
want to they all want to report that like, oh,
things are going great between you know, Tony and WBD.
If they were going great, they would have made this

(02:36:59):
announcement six months ago.

Speaker 2 (02:37:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:37:02):
Absolutely, the move.

Speaker 1 (02:37:05):
Of moving Raw to Netflix was announced, so long ago.
It I just well, I look, I think part of
them not signing Tony right away was they were making
a play for Monday Night. Wrong that we reports to that,
but you know, you never know, so uh, all right,
moving on, I wanted to talk about Kevin Nash versus

(02:37:27):
Logan Paul. I didn't know that I needed. So I
have not watched Logan Paul's response yet, but I do
have a bookmark for us to watch together because I
wanted to. I wanted to kind of go into this,
you know, completely blind, but let me find the Kevin
Nash thing real quick, all right, So I got them

(02:37:48):
both side by side here. Well, first of you know what,
but if we're really going to go into this, I
think we have to go to where it started. It
started with with the Hogan interview, right, yes, yeah, it
started with with Hogan on Logan Paul's show.

Speaker 13 (02:38:03):
So let's watch the Hulkster the businesses. But you got
to realize, well, this is not a work. Okay, this
is a shoot. What the business is a shoot? Everybody's
gonna tell you it's a work.

Speaker 8 (02:38:18):
It's not a work. What do you mean the business
is a shoot? I don't, I don't know if if
I wrestle you right.

Speaker 13 (02:38:24):
Now and then pays you a million bucks and he
pays me five million, is that a worker?

Speaker 8 (02:38:29):
A shoot?

Speaker 1 (02:38:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (02:38:30):
I don't think I know that.

Speaker 1 (02:38:33):
A shoot?

Speaker 8 (02:38:33):
What is I know? Work?

Speaker 1 (02:38:34):
Look at Hogan's face.

Speaker 12 (02:38:36):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (02:38:38):
Now, look, everyone has been trying to say that Logan
Paul was joking or whatever. He's not joking. Look at
he is not that good of an actor, guys. I mean,
so watch Hogan's reaction, like, what.

Speaker 8 (02:38:49):
Does his shoot?

Speaker 1 (02:38:52):
Look at that? Whoever whoever caught that moment and did
the zoom in on the whole Hogan, can you believe
this guy? Face? Bravo, bravo to you.

Speaker 13 (02:39:02):
Come on, you're bullshitting me.

Speaker 2 (02:39:05):
He's not.

Speaker 8 (02:39:06):
He's serious.

Speaker 1 (02:39:07):
Yeah, Look how delighted his co host is. His co
host is utterly delighted that Logan is being embarrassed right now.
And now Logan is going to try to pass this
off that yes, he is, in fact, you know, he
is in fact kidding, but the co host will not
allow it to take place.

Speaker 2 (02:39:26):
So here we go.

Speaker 8 (02:39:28):
He's not. He's serious.

Speaker 13 (02:39:30):
Yeah, I'm fucking with you, Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:39:34):
No, he's not.

Speaker 13 (02:39:37):
He's not he's not.

Speaker 8 (02:39:40):
Embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (02:39:41):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 8 (02:39:42):
How about this?

Speaker 1 (02:39:43):
Can you explain it to our audience at home quickly?

Speaker 8 (02:39:45):
That doesn't understand.

Speaker 1 (02:39:49):
He's gonna explain it to the audience, logan.

Speaker 13 (02:39:53):
Logan knows what it means, but maybe just explain to
our audience at bute. Brother.

Speaker 1 (02:39:58):
All right, so right away we understand why Kevin Nash
is gonna get mad here. Yes, Kevin Nash goes off
on Logan Paul for not being with the differ we
work in a shoot. He's not one of the boys.
Where would he learn that ship at?

Speaker 8 (02:40:11):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:40:12):
I mean, you know, we're not one of the Kevin's
one of the boys. We're not one of the boys,
and we know right from what I So this kind
of also means he's not really a fan.

Speaker 12 (02:40:23):
Difference, Like you just have to be a wrestling fan
on the internet and you'll buy osmosis, you'll learn half
these terms.

Speaker 1 (02:40:30):
Yeah you never heard you never heard shoot fight, you
never heard.

Speaker 8 (02:40:33):
That shoot interview? Like really, well, again, he's not a
wrestling fan. He has discovered wrestling because he happens to
be good at it, and it's probably becoming a fan.
But also too, you know, it's his brother who does
the MMA stuff, so the word shoot probably has not
come across his plate until they decided that they wanted to,

(02:40:58):
you know, they wanted to fight the and work. You know,
he probably heard the work from Sean, but it's you know,
he's he hasn't been immersed in it, so he's not
going to pick up the vernacular, you know. I just
it's it's it's kind of it is what it is
with him. He's it's amazing to me.

Speaker 12 (02:41:14):
That a guy that ends up in WrestleMania doesn't know
something as simple as the term shoot.

Speaker 8 (02:41:18):
I don't know Logan was.

Speaker 9 (02:41:20):
To be fair, Logan was a fan when he was
real young, because there's pictures out there of him with replica.

Speaker 1 (02:41:25):
Belts and that.

Speaker 6 (02:41:26):
You know, he was a fan like I was when
I was a kid.

Speaker 9 (02:41:29):
I didn't know what the word work or shoot meant
until I was like fourteen or fifteen years old, and
I got immersed in it. By that time, Logan was
already all about content and being a content creator and
trying to do all that, so he wasn't He never
got immersed in the Internet culture like we did.

Speaker 5 (02:41:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:41:45):
So, uh so, Nash then says, from what I heard,
he's making five million bucks for limited dates, and all
those other guys are out there making house shows. F you,
F you, that's from the boys.

Speaker 2 (02:41:59):
F you.

Speaker 1 (02:42:00):
I don't give a f how many people are following
you if it said you have twenty four million Rhodes
Scholars following you, you fing Jesus, you have a bunch
of idiots. All right, Kevin Nash strong words he's working
a little, he's working a little problem.

Speaker 9 (02:42:18):
Because a lot of people can say that's the exact
same thing about Kevin.

Speaker 8 (02:42:24):
Dude, Like Nash nation Hall did exactly what he's talking about.
They got paid more than everybody, they worked less than everybody.

Speaker 5 (02:42:33):
The you know, the it is what it is.

Speaker 9 (02:42:37):
The remember remember when he can when seam Punk went
back to w W last year and Nash came out
with this big ty rade about seem Punk and the
next week said I got a lot of clicks from it.

Speaker 1 (02:42:45):
You guys got worked, you know, I mean, Kevin does that.
So all right, so let's watch Logan Paul's response. I
got people messaging me. They're like, yo, Kevin Nash is
talking shit about you.

Speaker 19 (02:43:00):
I said, Damn, who is Kevin Nash and I mean that,
I'm all right.

Speaker 1 (02:43:07):
Do we believe him? Does he not know who Kevin
Nash is?

Speaker 12 (02:43:10):
No way, you're working with Shawn Michaels.

Speaker 4 (02:43:12):
And and oh dare you?

Speaker 1 (02:43:15):
Oh dare you not know my big friend?

Speaker 8 (02:43:18):
Right?

Speaker 9 (02:43:18):
No, And with how bad he looked in that interview
with Hogan, there's no way that he would go out
there and legitimately admit that he didn't know who Kevin
Nash was.

Speaker 1 (02:43:25):
If he wasn't continue, if this wasn't. I love how
you know, I love how angry he was that he
didn't know, and that he was embarrassed by it like
that was amazing. Unfamiliar with this guy, which I think
is his problem.

Speaker 19 (02:43:38):
I'm not as versed in the w W and in
wrestling as maybe I should be, as as my peers are.

Speaker 8 (02:43:45):
But then how am I so much better than all
of them?

Speaker 1 (02:43:48):
You know, I don't have the end. He's got a point.

Speaker 17 (02:43:52):
He's so good.

Speaker 1 (02:43:53):
I hate that he's so good. I know it's the
most If he went out there and sucked, it would
have been so much much better for all of us.
But he's so undeniably good.

Speaker 12 (02:44:04):
Yeah, No, for sure, he's a very talented guy, way
more talented than some people that put a lot more
years scrap than he did. So Ricka Shane not wrong,
but I mean, this is where you're staying at this point,
is that he's trying to to make us believe that,
you know, he's just such a blue chipper that he

(02:44:27):
doesn't need to know anything about wrestling to be this good.

Speaker 1 (02:44:31):
These questions, it is a question.

Speaker 19 (02:44:33):
I don't know how I could be the best in
the ww or at least one of the best, Like
I'm surely a top fiver, and I don't even do
it full time.

Speaker 1 (02:44:42):
Now, imagine if I did learn a little bit. Imagine
if I devoted.

Speaker 19 (02:44:47):
Came one of the boys, learn what the difference between
a shoot and a work was, Will that make me
a champion?

Speaker 1 (02:44:55):
Fuck me?

Speaker 8 (02:44:57):
Fuck you.

Speaker 19 (02:44:59):
You're one of the old guys who is bitter that
I am better at your job than you ever were,
and that makes you pathetic. This will be my sport
and I will continue to make guys like you eat
your words when I devote a little bit of time
to it.

Speaker 8 (02:45:15):
So fuck me, fuck you.

Speaker 12 (02:45:18):
There's something behind that. There is something that's not just
a good promo. There is some identification there that Logan
actually has with people telling him he can't do things.

Speaker 8 (02:45:30):
Much unlike Mercedes because he has a personality, he had
something to pull from. And yeah, you know he's getting
you know, he's getting shit talk because he gets to
come in and only work important pay per views and
get the work with Roman and gets a big belt
and gets a lot of money. But at the end

(02:45:51):
of the day, he brought five million new eyes to
the product and they make money simple because his name
showed up. He doesn't have to do anything.

Speaker 1 (02:46:00):
Thing over the money they make from Prime like.

Speaker 8 (02:46:04):
So like so at the end of yes, so at
the end of the day, Yes, yes, wrestlers, Yes, he
is better than you and you have to eat crow
because he performs better than most of you. It doesn't
matter that he works out his match with Sean Michaels.
You can, I can. I can put four monkeys in
a ring and teach him how to do a couple
of spots. So I mean they're gonna do him great.

(02:46:24):
Those monkeys will probably do a better than your favorite
indie wrestler. But Logan Paul happens to be like RVD
freakish level of good at what he does.

Speaker 5 (02:46:33):
He is a.

Speaker 8 (02:46:34):
You know, he's a one of a kind generational athlete
and he's got a roll with it. I don't care
that he's a dick. I actually find it very entertaining,
and that was probably one of the best promos. We're
definitely gonna see it on a Wednesday Night, but it's
definitely one of the best promos we've seen on TV
in quite a while. And didn't even happened on TV.
It happened on Instagram. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:46:53):
And you know what's funny you mentioned Wednesday Night in
Mercedes because the entire time I was watching that, I
kept thinking, if Mercedes cut the exact promo, all the
people that are that hate that are making fun of
Logan Paul for it, would be cheering Mercedes for it
because it's it's against Kevin Nash and it's saying I
don't need the old way, I have the new way.

(02:47:13):
But because it's Logan Paul, he's able to get so
much heat from it, and I like, look at us,
we're sitting here. I legitimately don't care for Logan Paul.
I think that he I don't. He's been involved in
too many scams. He's he's just as.

Speaker 12 (02:47:30):
You're totally yeah. But but as a physical specimen, Jesus,
this guy.

Speaker 9 (02:47:35):
And just the he can cut a promo, he can,
he understands. He may not know the business, but he
understands the business. And that's more than a lot of
people can say.

Speaker 8 (02:47:45):
That's more important, do you It's not if you understand
why it works, not so much how it works, it's
you can you can go far.

Speaker 12 (02:47:56):
There have been guys like that before too, especially outsiders
that have come in among the many that have come
into WWE as like you know, these special attractions that
have fell fallen flat on their face. But I think
the guys like you know, do you remember kay Fed
and Sina? How much people hated kay Fed and he
just understood how to make everyone hate him. It was great.

(02:48:17):
We never really got the full payoff of that, but man,
it was one of those things. I'm like, if they
would have just kept him in there for a few months,
I think he could have been the very first Logan
Paul type superstar.

Speaker 9 (02:48:28):
You know well, and just talk about wrestlers who didn't
care about the business before they got in. You have
Bill Goldberg who didn't who didn't care about If he
would have he could have been built old Berg.

Speaker 6 (02:48:40):
You have Batista.

Speaker 1 (02:48:42):
Batista didn't care about wrestling before he got into the business.

Speaker 6 (02:48:45):
These are guys that very well.

Speaker 1 (02:48:47):
Let me let me make a point about Batista tripled
up old Lady that he looks like now. But I
will say Batista Batista has always struck me as somebody
who appreciates everything he got in wrestling and appreciates the
people that gave it to him. And I've always respected
Dave Batista for that.

Speaker 17 (02:49:04):
So he.

Speaker 12 (02:49:07):
Was a vampire, you know. Here's Leviah Thin or whatever.

Speaker 5 (02:49:10):
It was like.

Speaker 12 (02:49:11):
He started gimmicky as hell, and then they settled.

Speaker 1 (02:49:14):
Him with h him in a lake.

Speaker 8 (02:49:18):
All right. I do want to point out, as shocking
a visual as it is, it's little big Dave is
still six four, two hundred and forty. He's still bigger
than the average human. He just looks, you know, like
he got verse.

Speaker 1 (02:49:38):
Yeah, he wears a pearl necklace. Now for some read
the pearl necklaces?

Speaker 2 (02:49:44):
Why?

Speaker 5 (02:49:46):
Why?

Speaker 1 (02:49:48):
All right? I get some super chats here Scott Rizzo
for ten dollars, say is good or bad? I recommend
a live show, any pay per view of b L
I agree, I'm really enjoying doing the live show reactions
with you guys. I think they've been a lot of fun.
I think it was something I I stayed away from
him for so long, but then once we did the

(02:50:08):
first one, I was hooked. I really like the I
don't I have little traditions that surround it now, like
the certain food that I get while I'm doing it,
and yeah, like I really like it. It's become kind
of a treasured part of my month. So I enjoy
hanging out with you guys and doing that. Colin Taylor
for five dollars this is so I hit the century
mark foot today f Vince Russo. I guess that means

(02:50:29):
he's given one hundred bucks. So thank you, Colin. You
are just an absolute pleasure to have around. Thank you
so very much. Uh, John j Id nine ninet nine
for one ninety nine. What do you guys think the
Lucha Brothers are gonna do? I don't care. They are good.
Which brothers are good? And I think they think they're
gonna go to ww A. I think this is I
think Tony's gonna throw a lot of money out of me,

(02:50:49):
even though he doesn't really use him very much.

Speaker 6 (02:50:51):
No, I think I think I think they saw. I
think they saw what's going on with Dragon Lee.

Speaker 9 (02:50:55):
They've they've seen, you know, say what you want about
Dragon Lee, but he is definitely more well known now
than he was.

Speaker 5 (02:51:03):
Then.

Speaker 1 (02:51:03):
Here's the thing about Lucha Brothers.

Speaker 9 (02:51:05):
They can go to WW for two years and then
go back to Mexico and demand five times the amount
they make. Absolutely, and that's that's what a lot of
these guys see.

Speaker 8 (02:51:15):
So I know that Luke Brud's gonna they're going to
reenact the scene from Scarface when Tony and Sosa are
counting the money and laughing off of their merchandise sales.

Speaker 6 (02:51:26):
Because because a W does nothing for him. But if
they have Conan in.

Speaker 1 (02:51:30):
Their made, we've made We've made the point. We've made
the point. Uh Magic Midnight Magic Musics for one and
Crystal Septim Match d T Japan Style.

Speaker 8 (02:51:40):
Yes, Yes, with with Mercedes there you go. Yeah Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:51:46):
Joe Punches for One says where is Robert Matters sub
Mitch and Frendos.

Speaker 8 (02:51:51):
So he's not on the list.

Speaker 12 (02:51:53):
I didn't see him on the PW I five hundred
No Robert Martyr this year. Wrestling Soup's little mascot is awful.

Speaker 8 (02:52:01):
That sucks.

Speaker 1 (02:52:02):
He dropped off. Yeah, I'm sure you're taking this very
I'm sure you're taking this like like a true professional.

Speaker 12 (02:52:07):
I'm trying. I'm trying to get through it, you know,
through the tears.

Speaker 1 (02:52:11):
Alijandra Melendez for Dallar ninety nine, Meltzer is a sore
on the rear of pro wrestling. I think in the
video that I got, the video that I got hitting
Patreon tomorrow, I think I call him a u an
ingrown hair on the n thigh of the world. So
and ann of Ruby m for two Dallas is aw,
doesn't I think she means melts Aw doesn't need Meltzer.

(02:52:31):
Meltzer needs aw. That's one hundred percent correct, all right.
So now I wanted to move along to a new segment,
which we have run out of Dave Schultz promos. Guys,
I'm sorry that the party had to end, you know
at some point, because you know, we had a finite
number of promos. But we've got our replacement. So welcome

(02:52:53):
to our first new Jack promo of the week. Now.
I've never seen this. I have not seen this. This
came from producing neck Beard and Diss. They were like,
this is the one we got to start with. So
all right, guys, here we go. So this is smoking
Mountain Wrestling, and this is I believe the Gangster is

(02:53:16):
first of a promo, right, yeah, so much?

Speaker 10 (02:53:19):
Yes, a curely are we get our first opportunity to
the talk.

Speaker 1 (02:53:24):
The new jag Is that is that? Who is that
interviewing them? I can't really make it out. Is it
Gordon or is it Bob?

Speaker 12 (02:53:33):
I can't even see.

Speaker 1 (02:53:34):
I have no idea. I can't Okay, on the blocker
smoking Mountain Wrestling, impressive they are. It sounds like Bob
Connell's Bob Condall. That has been confirmed multiple times in the.

Speaker 10 (02:53:48):
First opportunity to the talk to the new tag team
on the blocker Smoking Mountain Wrestling, impressive.

Speaker 8 (02:53:54):
They are the gangs?

Speaker 12 (02:53:55):
Does you Jack?

Speaker 2 (02:53:56):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 10 (02:53:57):
Thirty years ago, we would have been strong up. It's
somebody's treat getting okay.

Speaker 8 (02:54:03):
That's how we're getting things off, coming in hot, coming
in hot, Just come in with it.

Speaker 1 (02:54:10):
We're in the Deep South. It's you know, he's not
telling them lies, booking truth. He would have been strung up.

Speaker 10 (02:54:20):
It's somebody's treat getting home for being two white boys
the way we just be Now. You might want to
come out here and pull some bills on, but we're
gonna be weighing around here.

Speaker 2 (02:54:32):
It's a tag team film.

Speaker 1 (02:54:33):
That's a stare. That's a stare and a half. Oh
my goodness.

Speaker 8 (02:54:39):
Like before, before Mustafa made it to New Jack, he
was a jobber on w CW, fighting in the Underdog division,
which was a genius division by the way I I
mark for it. But yeah, Mustafa was a job on
w CW and then formed the freaking Gangsters.

Speaker 1 (02:54:56):
Amazing.

Speaker 10 (02:54:58):
Let me tell you so, I don't like being up here.

Speaker 17 (02:55:01):
I was getting out of my car.

Speaker 10 (02:55:02):
I slipped it fast up tobacco spit. And you know
what I'm saying, Nothing but red necks up here, Nothing
but gis up here?

Speaker 8 (02:55:12):
What coal miners up here?

Speaker 1 (02:55:14):
Wow? Listen to that heat that getting. I know he's
getting out of his car and he slipped in tobacco spit.

Speaker 6 (02:55:22):
To bat this is that nineteen This is nineteen ninety four,
I believe. Is that right or ninety three?

Speaker 8 (02:55:29):
I think it's ninety three. Okay, God, thank you, Mike.
I want to spoil the end.

Speaker 1 (02:55:36):
Thank God?

Speaker 8 (02:55:37):
Is it miked?

Speaker 1 (02:55:37):
Because man, oh man, chicken from me class.

Speaker 8 (02:55:42):
I don't like nobody for my funny.

Speaker 17 (02:55:46):
You understand, I don't care who you.

Speaker 1 (02:55:48):
Lying up in front of me.

Speaker 10 (02:55:50):
I'm gonna show you how bad new Jack and Mustaff
he is. You want to talk about violence violence to
you might be putting mun a figure full violence to me,
taking a can again and point it on you and
setting your five.

Speaker 1 (02:56:06):
He's been in very well in modern a W.

Speaker 8 (02:56:09):
Then right there, it is a shame that we lost
new Jack before Tony could have spent money to get
new Jack and a W.

Speaker 1 (02:56:19):
He had well his spirit and didn't body the body
of sting.

Speaker 12 (02:56:23):
Could you imagine how over his Swerve would have been
if new Jack was his manager? And I love don't
get me wrong, but if new Jack was Swerve's manager,
he would be a household name right now.

Speaker 9 (02:56:34):
New Jack is one of those easy, weird ECW guys
that Vince got obsessed with for a while too, Like
he really Vince really liked new Jack and Sandman and
Ball's mahoney. I wanted to bring him into go against
Sina back in during the whole Carlito thing.

Speaker 8 (02:56:52):
So yeah, I was like, why is I was like,
why has the new chat popped up on my TV
here at the w w A just sitting around waiting
the entire give me to know why because we know
those people, because he has warn well, I didn't come
up here to be like I came.

Speaker 12 (02:57:10):
Up here to get paid.

Speaker 10 (02:57:11):
And whoever you put in front of me, I'm I
like to see girls shout out to my homeboy. Oh
Jay Simpson, keep up the good work, baby. To listen,
we got to worry about.

Speaker 1 (02:57:24):
You understand what unless we gotta worry about it? Just say,
oh my god, oh that is and this is nineteen
ninety three in Smoky Mountain Wrestling.

Speaker 12 (02:57:45):
Oh Man Classic.

Speaker 8 (02:57:47):
I love the story behind this promo too, cornyself, go
say what you gotta go say to make everybody mad
at you.

Speaker 1 (02:57:54):
Oh Le's we gotta worry about the good work Lewis
bath Card.

Speaker 8 (02:58:00):
We'll be the next president.

Speaker 1 (02:58:03):
You know you called him last night. You understand Snoop Dogg.
We know you're innocent. What was Snoop Dogg accused of
at this point it was.

Speaker 8 (02:58:12):
Stoop Dogg is an alleged murderer.

Speaker 6 (02:58:15):
Yeah, this was when he was through his murder trial.

Speaker 1 (02:58:17):
He made a song, he made a whole album about
the murder trial. Is there a song called I did
it if I If I did it.

Speaker 10 (02:58:28):
Right and smoking about we're gonna set this place on fun.

Speaker 8 (02:58:32):
All right, man, there they are the team to be heard.

Speaker 1 (02:58:34):
From Bob Donnell. Bob Condle thinks he's about to get mugged.
Oh and then when the camera stopped, Bob Coddle got mugged.

Speaker 12 (02:58:47):
He we'll be back right after this.

Speaker 1 (02:58:51):
Hearing Bob Connell say gangstas is what is my new
favorite thing? Okay, you know what, guys, you were right,
you were right. This is a good Uh. The Jack
era has begun and I'm all I have.

Speaker 12 (02:59:04):
I cannot wait to see all the new Jack you
guys are gonna watch. He has so much content out there,
from promos to interviews to just random random rants online
on Facebook videos like you Jack.

Speaker 19 (02:59:18):
Is a.

Speaker 8 (02:59:21):
So we even have a new Jack match that we
can watch because he did a show in West Virginia.
I get some just with it up old guy and
who looked like he was in a diaper. Oh he
he He drops a particular hard r and New Jack
beats this man to death. Oh yeah, with the chairs.
We beat that man around that building about Joe, Yeah,

(02:59:47):
like like nothing I have ever seen before. It's spectacular.

Speaker 12 (02:59:50):
Yeah, he murdered Gypsy Joe, and to be fair, Gypsy
Joe took it, which was even more insane to me, Like,
what is this is crazy? Old, go down stupid and
he's just standing there.

Speaker 1 (03:00:04):
Odds. I don't even want to spoil it. You need
to watch it, Mark, all right, we'll have to watch
it eventually. Guys. That's about all I got for this week.
Anything else you guys want to get off your chest
or put out there into the world.

Speaker 9 (03:00:19):
Oh, one thing, real quick. I love Giovanni Vinci's debut
on SmackDown. That's all okay, because that's a very controversial opinion.

Speaker 8 (03:00:26):
But I loved it. No, I thought I'm with you
on that one.

Speaker 1 (03:00:30):
I agree Apollo Cruse pinned him in like two seconds, right.

Speaker 9 (03:00:33):
Yes, but you know what two seconds? Yes, people are
talking about him. People are talking about him, so yeah,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (03:00:42):
That's true. All right, Well, miss thank you so much
for joining us this week. Tell them, tell the folks
where they can find more about you and whatever you're
up to.

Speaker 12 (03:00:50):
Thank you boys for having me on. Obviously, Wrestling Soup
part of the Wrestling Soup Network along with Tony Talk
and Tony Town Wrestling along with a bunch of other people.
You can find that at wrestling soup dot com. We
run our shows every Wednesday at three thirty three thirty
Eastern time. Sorry, I just blanked on it because I
always get my time zones messed up because I'm in
Central Yeah. Anyways, so three thirty Eastern time Wednesday, Nights

(03:01:12):
Thursdays seven thirty eastern and then of course Frank and
Gus is on Friday on our discord dot gg Fords
Slash Wrestling Soup. Subscribe to the Patreon Patreon dot com
fort Slash Wrestling Soup. A ton of shows, a ton
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on fifteen and uh yeah, all of it's available. Thank
you guys so much for having me on. I love
doing these little shit. Dixies are great.

Speaker 1 (03:01:33):
We always love having you. Miss you want one of
the few that has just an open invitation to come
on whenever you want. Thank you. So you know you
get the link every week and when you can join us.
We're always thrilled to have you join us. Uh dis
what are you guys not going on over there at
maxed out Media.

Speaker 6 (03:01:48):
Yeah, we actually still have a video that's almost done.

Speaker 9 (03:01:51):
We were gonna work on it this weekend, but personal
stuff so we couldn't, but Max is really wanting to
do that. This weekend might actually get two done because
Max has another one that he's really wanting to do,
so we'll have those. I'm also posting right now in
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I will I am usually on there for Raw on SmackDown.

(03:02:14):
John j Add does a fantastic job as our moderator
over there, so please join the discord and follow me
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Speaker 1 (03:02:22):
All right, Kevin Apolo, what do you got going on
in your life?

Speaker 8 (03:02:25):
I'll see you guys on Thursdayesday night and we'll see
miss soon, yes soon, And then I think I'm doing
a last call on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (03:02:35):
I think business you are, you're in. I demand, my
friend that you got a huge shout out by Lou
Wasserman's ghost on T three PO today. I mean it
was very much well deserved. The So yeah, when we
have Tuning Talk TV on Thursday night at eight pm,
come check us out. Kevin Apollo me Kevin Apolo, just
Trish and a panel of experts as we talked through

(03:02:56):
all of the entertainment news of the week. We got
so much discuss this week, from from Bo de Mayo
going on a thirty minute rant to uh to Agatha
Howkness and all the crazy things they're starting to say
about that show, Beatlejuice dominating the box office, Rings of
Power not dominating TV. H casting for Harry Potter has
begun so much to talk about. Uh plus Dragon ball

(03:03:19):
Z localizers trying to gen x up DBZ. Uh So
we are gonna uh yeah, you're gonna hate that one, buddy.
I hope Spencer's there because he wrote the article and
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(03:04:02):
make sure you check all that out if you and
we've been trying to give you guys daily content. I
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But this week we're back with a vengeance. We're gonna
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So tomorrow Patreon is getting the Dave Meltzer one and
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(03:04:23):
is a Dave Meltzer is a Dave Schmeltzer centric puppet segment,
and there is a miniature song parody in there, and
I'll give you I will give you one more. I
have made alterations to the Dave Meltzer puppet and it
now has a wagging tongue.

Speaker 10 (03:04:40):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (03:04:43):
So yeah, so you know, we'll see you guys over there.
Thank you guys so much for joining us this and
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Speaker 17 (03:04:56):
Now half of my thank you, thank you, your piece
of trash, thank.

Speaker 1 (03:05:10):
You, thank you, thank you. I suppose you want me
to say thank you. Ah what saying thank you? It's
like jopping thank.

Speaker 5 (03:05:23):
You, a little message, thank you, oh you.

Speaker 6 (03:05:30):
O, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank.

Speaker 1 (03:05:38):
You, thank you. Thanks for what him home from all
of us here at Tunytown.

Speaker 8 (03:05:47):
Thank you, and youres like you.

Speaker 5 (03:05:51):
Thank you,

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