July 8, 2025: Counter Program Chaos

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
You got trouble, you want to please by a tumble.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Up boxing, you got box of sh.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Hm And welcome everybody to another brilliant episode of Tony
Talk Wrestling, the fastest growing pro wrestling livestream on the Internet.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Today.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
You all know me, still the same old g I'm
dis aw disclinary. You can find me on Twitter at
aw discplinary.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Marv is off seeing Superman and visiting family and doing whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
He will be here for all in this weekend. I
will see to it personally. We are going to have
a marathon stream this weekend. You don't have to worry
about that. And if you match, if you meet the donation,
and we have to watch the scrum, guess what you
have to turn off? Saturday Nights made a bit. Scrum's
going on during Saturay Nights made event, so you get
to torture us even more. But I am not here alone,

(02:17):
and I'm not giving a man intro because this is
my show. This ain't Marv show. This is my show tonight.
Here's my co host, Awful wrestling, Awful Day.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
What's happening.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
We're gonna have some fun tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Okay, you're damn right, who will curse first?

Speaker 6 (02:34):
Me or you?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
What do you think? Chat? Who's gonna curse first?

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Who's gonna be a little bit and not?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh shit, Well there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I win.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah. Audio is low for this.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Audio is low from you. I'll get that fixed unless
other people say that's not true. So awful. How are
you doing this week?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Ooh, it's been quite a ride for me this week.
I hate the sound selfish, I hate sound arrogant, but
I crossed fifteen thousand following friends this week on Twitter.
I'm so very happy. Thank all of you who love
me and hate me on Twitter. Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
That's right, fifteen thousand people are following. Awful and wow.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Netbeard dropped us a line saying, have a good show. Hi,
producer net Beard. He'll be in the chat throughout the
night helping us out. We have some video that he
wanted us to show you guys, so please drop a like,
leave a comment, and if you got a little bit extra,
maybe drop a super chat because we will be getting
to every one of your super chats tonight, and you
are steering this show.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
We have a little bit to talk right off the bat.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
We're covering some straight news and we're getting to that
counter programming conversation that's been dominating social media this week.
But after that, whore's yours, ladies and gentlemen. Anything you
want us to talk about, anything you've ever wanted to
hear me an awful? Go on, Let's open open Mike

(04:05):
night tonight. Uh keV, I don't kep. keV might be
joining us at some point. And Marv said that if
he gets out early.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
He will hop on, so we might see that gets
out in jail, he is watching uh Superman.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Oh, okay, gotcha.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, he's at a press aw because he's oh he
got a press pass, Yes he did.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
If I don't, hey, good good job, Marv. You all
here leit.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
So all right, it's gonna be a little bit different tonight.
But let's uh, let's let's pull up the super chats.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
What do you say?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Let's do that.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
We got up, We got right off the top. We
got Regina Sharp for twenty dollars. One out of two.
Secret file is about to be released. Need to cover
up your quote unquote errors.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Fast new from the FBI laughs, cover all tm blah
blah blah blah from cop you glom and see him
blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
With cover all your incrimudating files will melt away. FBI
approved two of two warning top you. Glomba is not
responsible for memos referencing your cover up surviving use only
as directed. Well, thank you so much, Regina Sharp. And
I will find the clip because I know the reference.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I dig it.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yes, you're you're pretty happy the Epstein files didn't come out.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
This week, am i am, I am? I really don't
get me started.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I heard that you might be on it. That's fine.
I can't find glom Oh here it is here we
go ready.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Glom gold glo gold gold gloom.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
So they did it.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
They got the glomgole. Thank you very much, Regina Sharp.
And anything else you want us to, anything else you
want to say, Oh, well, speaking of which, and of
course blomb gol blom goole.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
They're doing it. But again, is that the again is
that the.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
Gold glow gold gloo gold gloom gold.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
She said she did not make an Epstein reference. Oh,
she didn't know, but anybody with two eyes and a
brain could see that was an Epstein reference.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Anyway, we got a dial C four with the two
dollars who's ready for Tuny talk Wrestling.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Tony Wait, I'm sorry, Tony Talkie Talk Wrestling.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh ship, that's pretty good. Yeah, so I missed.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
I kind of missed that stuff. Is that a Mark
Brisco thing that I just don't know about or is
that just the being cute dude?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I got no clue. I mean, I, first off, I
wouldn't be putting that on a promotional poster anywhere on
planet Earth, especially ae W. Why does a e W
continue to give themselves well and their audience douce chills
every stinking Wednesday? And how about those ratings my friend.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Two weeks before the biggest show of the of ever
or something.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I cannot believe that they're trying to
make this look like it's a success.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
I cannot believe.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Like, Okay, it's good that you sold more tickets than
you ever have in the United States. Yeah, sure, you're
also what seventy percent down from two years ago at
the same event.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Right, right, You went from seventy thousand to forty five
thousand to now what twenty one thousand max?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, So we're talking that big of a drop in
two years and we're acting like it's a success story,
and do you know why they didn't We all know
why they didn't go England this year though.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
It's because of cold right, that's what we heard.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah right, I thought it was Tyler or I said
Broad's name Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, thank you very much.
I thought it was Taylor Swift. Was last year that
was the rest.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
That they didn't have river. They said that was why
they didn't sell as many tickets as they wanted to
Taylors this year. It's because of cold Play.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
You see, Coldplay has rinted out that Wimbley Stadium and
you can't get in except Saturday. They don't have a
concert Saturday, but it still means you can't possibly play.
You can't possibly do a wrestling show at Wimbley Stadium
while Coldplay isn't playing their next super chat Rabbit Wolverine.
I'll see Killer seventeen with the two dollars. I'm only

(08:22):
watching n XT and Evolution this weekend. Well, I'm sure
if Kevin Offel joined us this weekend, they will be
joining you. Well, no, because we watched the Saturday Nights
main event. But yeah, that's what I said earlier. If
we do when we do that if we get that
super chat Mark, Me and Marv are gonna turn off
Saturday Nights main event and only watch nothing, probably waiting
for that stupid scrum to start because accolades back. What

(08:47):
do you think happens between the Yeah, well, okay, I've
heard I have it on good authority that the time
between when the pit view stops and the scrum starts,
his backstage going like everyone, there's basically a line of
wrestlers that are going up to them saying, thank you
so much for this opportunity, boss.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh god, you know they have to pay the penance,
you know, right right, bend the knee right, all right.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
You're making my dreams come true, boss. That kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I've always wanted to work for a third rate, yanky
wrestling company. Thank you, boss.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
All right, we got blazing bolts for ten dollars.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I'm surprised that Marv has an as similar team of
muppets take to take over with Diss at the front line,
Like when d X made a WW with army gear
and a damn army tank.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Ha ha, I made a voice for the emoji that
he Kay, gotcha, So I don't know, you know, maybe
this is a hot take. I don't know. Maybe I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I didn't really care for d X at that point
when they were doing the tank stuff, and it felt
kind of corny to me back then. I don't know,
Maybe it's just me, but I was like, didn't you
already do this? Like it'd be cool if they actually
went in, but the fact that they like didn't kind
of just made me like, Okay, you know, like you're
just And then TNA did the exact same thing a

(10:13):
few years later.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's just isn't it so crazy? Bro?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
How Like?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
See back back when that that segment happened, I was
forty four years old, and I remember exactly thinking to myself,
I was just like, you know, you never while you're
in the moment watching it, you never really you know,
that was a throwaway segment. Now twenty years later, thirty
years later, they're like it was one of the watershed

(10:39):
moments of the Monday Night Wars, and I was, what
what are you talking about? It was like fifteen minutes,
it was spread throughout the entire show, and it wasn't
all that great, No, but that's just me.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
And then and then especially like the next week when
they went to like you know, the CNN building or
whatever and tried to do the same thing again. People
forget that they tried that. They really really try to
keep that going. But it looks like by Bolts wasn't done.
He meant to say takeover ae W, thank you for
the two dollars to correct yourself, Blazing bolt. Oh, that's
probably the only way I would have seen the correction.

(11:11):
And he has another one, Blazing Bolts for five.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
I'd rather watch you guys do the whole three count
gimmick from WCW than the current product. Well, we know
that at least me and keV can sing the whole song,
so maybe one day you'll actually get that awful it's
your favorite. I know in private, we have a all
our listeners, so all you guys, we have a what's

(11:35):
that called? What's that called? Like a little YouTuber where
they're like, oh, it's your list.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
We have got tier and the S Tier and all that.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, this is your this is your S plus tier.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I believe all the booty bitches and bacon with big
boobies for two dollars and bacon says I will give
t K and all in Texas the Bird.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
I'm guessing that means the finger.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Are you going all big booty bitches and bacons with
big boobies? Will you be going to the show?

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Yeah, that's good question.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
You can, you can?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
You can want to stop personally. First off, if I
was in Texas, I would go because why not? You know,
I mean the tickets are like seven bucks, like you
can get in there. Problem right, you can get them
for free, I think now. Secondly, you don't be really smart.
I don't know if people I don't know if you've
heard about this album. There was flooding in Texas this
past week.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, I heard some people couldn't swim.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
If you were aw and.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
You're running a what fifty thousand seat stadium, and you've
sold twenty thousand seats to it and it's in Texas,
wouldn't it be smart to just say, hey, you know what,
if you if you've had any damage done to your house,
if you're if you have to relocate because of the
flood damage, we welcome you to.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Come to all In.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
We'll give you, We'll give you the afternoon for free,
you don't pay anything. Come on in, fill up the seats.
Let's fill this place up. Get these guys in here,
you know, I mean, you might sell some more merch,
you might create new fans. It'll look better on TV,
and no one will make fun of them for giving
away tickets because they're doing it for a good talks.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
It's a win win win situation.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Do you how do you verify whether they've gone through
flood damage? Like do you show them an insurance deed?
Or like, here's half of my door?

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Can I come in make those a holds work for it? Dammit?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, we talked about this before in the batchat this
Remember I said maybe about a month ago. I was
just like it would behoove aw to at least for
maybe like twenty four hours. I don't know when, but
twenty four hours a week leading up to the show,
just give them away. Twenty four hours. I'm sorry, twelve
hours because twenty four hours a long time. Twelve hours.

(13:49):
You know we're gonna just give tickets away. You want
this seat, you want this arena, this globely field to
look like something. It's going to be quite embarrassing come Saturday.
Can't wait to see what the ship's gonna look like.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
All you have to do is say Hey, you know,
you don't have to make them prove that they had
blood damage just to have anybody with the Texas State idea.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
I D just trust them because that's what you're not
gonna fill.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Like, you're not selling thirty thousand tickets to this and
people who wanted to go have already gone, have already
bought their.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Tickets, right.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
You know, if you if you put, if you put
the cheap seats is the free ones, you might be
able to sell some closer tickets to people who show
up one day of and then you fill up the
place and it looks great on TV and everyone's had that.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I don't I don't get why AW can't just do
that they have. I'm gonna give AW a compliment. Are
you ready sure they are doing a better job of
not making it like anti WWE back right? I think
they've been doing a much better job of that recently.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
You had to because WWE circled their goddamn wagons and
like they circle the wagons of AW.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
They forced them to do it, but they I'll give
them that credit. That's it's what they should have been
doing the whole time. They should have never played that
game because they were never gonna win. It was always
a losing battle. So you do it like if you
know he started becoming they need to become more fan friendly.
And one step towards it is not making WWE fans
feel silly for going to their shows, and another step

(15:18):
toward it would be given away free tickets.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
I definitely think it's it's it's it's.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
What I you know, It's what I think almost any
promoter in his position would do, except for Tony Kahn,
because I think Tony Kahan sees it as it.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Would be him admitting defeats or looking at peek.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Or something like that. But I think they would. I
think it's a home run in my opinion. How baseball sceni?
All right, we got another one from CWJ one twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
For ten dollars. A couple of notes. One.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
WWE has this domestic ple deal coming up in March
twenty six. The more events, the better. Two Steve Coonan,
who is on the TTL board, runs the State Farm
Arena in Atlanta. I'm sure he's happy for the two days.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
There's some reasons. We're gonna get into the counterprogramming stuff
a little bit later. But I will I will drop.
I will drop a little hint here. People have been
paying attention to my my timeline on YouTube, on YouTube
on x you will know that. I think that the
counterprogramming has been very successful. Dave doesn't agree.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
With me, but we'll we'll get Chef Bettie with five dollars.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Hey, Chef Bettie the first time we're seeing you and
I something I will something I never thought I would
say a year ago. Cross with the c it's that
you spell over the game is more over than sam
We want Cross.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
I mean he's over.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I know that in the arena on Monday it sounded
like he was more over than Sammy. I think Sammy
Sammy WWE fans are gonna be behind him no matter what.
And in a match, I think you wouldn't be getting
the same time, Like if it was in a one
on one match between Sammy and Cross. They're not gonna
say only stop cherry for Sammy and start Cherry for Cross.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
But they do want.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Cross, and it seems like Cross might end up factoring
into the bronze breaker situation a little bit, which would
be interesting.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
I don't I think the problem with Crosses. I don't
see how you can make them a face with without
changing it everything people like about right like, I don't
know how you do that, but I don't think bas
and heels really matter anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's more about just what I guess. The only thing
that Cross would have to do was not play to
the crowd, you know, just keep doing what you're doing
and don't do the tada moments of the crowd when
if they do cheer you. And as far as Samy's Ain,
I wanted to mention that Sammy's Ain seems to do
better when he's doing a run in, but as far

(17:50):
as like his matches, I don't like him.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
You know, it's with Cross too. I think one thing
that hurts, and it's hurting Seth right now, and it's
all of their dimmicks have already been done to death.
The idea of like a heel turning on the crowd
because they're being hypocrites and then showing that the crowd

(18:16):
or hypo the crowds are hypocritical. Drew did that last
year and Seena's doing that right now, so it's it's
hard to get that over right now. I find another
way to turn somebody heel, you know, like that the
whole like hr the fans are hypocrites.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Steel.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
I get that it's kind of been a WWE staple forever,
going back all the way to like Piper and Savage
and you know, the eighties, But it might be time
that you get a little bit more creative on your
heel turns be got John Williams for two. Well, I'm sorry,
poward to the one nine nine dis in control. This
is Nolan's fault probably. I mean, everything's either my fault

(18:56):
or Nolan's fault, and this is definitely not my fault
unless existing as much well forever Runner, this has Marv
tied up in his basement hall.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
So then.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
You and Common Pizza I have a seller. Okay, yeah,
I can. I can do it with the best of them.
And Pizzagate all right, right, dropping dropping two, No one
talk about nineteen forty five.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Please, if anything happens, it's awful. I didn't say that, okay,
uh dial see four for five dollars.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
The real reason Marv isn't is the real reason reason
Marv isn't here because Charlotte skinned him for her role.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Dude, I'm done with Charlotte. You said that.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, Now please elaborate on this.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yeah, you know what I pulled something you want to
get into. You think we could Paul super chests. Now
come back here and uh, let's do it first.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Okay, we will get back to your super Jets rule
start with George Kapter for five dollars. But right now,
let's switch over here because I have this story.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
So Charlotte Flair. Today she wrote a think piece article.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Somewhere I don't know about what it means to be
Charlotte Flair, and in it she said, I think in
those times when people have seen me appear rattled by
the booing, those are just those are just the times
when I felt like, at least for a moment, the
boos aren't for Charlotte, there for Ashley.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
They're for me.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
They're because of the way I look, or because of
the energy I'm giving off as a woman, or because
of real trauma I've gone through in real life. So
when it gets so when it got mentioned in Chicago
that I have an O three record at marriages, yeah
it rocked me.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Leg hit.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
I'm not too proud to tell you that I like
a hurricane. That I don't need everyone thinking I'm I'm
playing five D chess all the time. My reaction to
that line was as genuine as it gets because and
maybe this makes me a makes me naive in my head,
Charlotte hasn't been divorced, so I wasn't expecting to come

(21:12):
up in that I was expecting it to come up
in that promo, and then all of a sudden, I
had an entire read at cheering as I got mocks
for something that was was and frankly still is devastating
to me.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
There's Charlotte Flair. She's sad. Yeah, I'm sorry, dude, So
I've done with her like she can't. Yeah. She did
another thing earlier where she was saying that she's like tired,
she wants to be a face, she can't deal with
the proud booing her, and.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
She has not talked to her dad at all on
this aspect the professional wrestling.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
You're a Flair. How can you not want to be booed?
You're a Flair lady.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
I'm sorry, I'm Maybe she's a very nice woman, you know,
I'm sure, or she has lots of friends, but you
can't get cheered forever, and not with that character and
not with that attitude and not with just the aura
around you, were people booing Ashley or Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Well, guess what, I'm sorry, but you play Charlotte most
of the time people interact with you and see you.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, exactly, say they don't know who the fuck Ashley
is when they're boeing Charlotte, Right, that's the whole point.
Develop some thick skin woman or get it. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's a lot of they go online and they read
why people online don't like it, and they try to
apply that to why the crowd isn't reacting to them,
and it's not the same thing. I'm sorry, it's not
the crowd isn't reacting to you because while you were gone,
people better.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Than you came and took your spot. And I'm not
saying that they're better.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
You know, in there, Charlotte at one point was the
best female wrestler of all time. This Charlotte is not it.
She is not performing to that standard. If she can't
deal with getting booed right there, that means you're not
the greatest female grower.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Of all time.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Can you tell me why she's one of She was
one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
I will say that I think that she is one
of the first female wrestlers that made me stop the
entire time I'm watching her matches. I don't think I'm
watching a female a woman's wrestling match. It just feels
like I'm watching a wrestling match. You know, she her
and and really it's that whole wave of the Four
Horse Women and that whole thing kind of it was

(23:35):
such a departure from what we had previously that it
felt special. And I think that has a lot to
do with like why Evolution isn't performing as well as
they did a few years ago. It's just you can't
you can't recreate that time. You can't recreate that that boom.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
I think personally, I think WWE was aware that this
was going to underperform no matter when and how they
did it, because it's just the interest isn't there as much.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
If I remember correctly, this didn't she just come out
of the woodwork and get the get the challenge for
the championship.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, she was going for what like over like a
year and then she just came back and immediately got
a title shot like and by the way, they brought
her in as a face Yeah, she could not get
the crowd behind her.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
That's not Tiffany's fault. Okay, that's your fault. And I
still don't believe this BS that she didn't know about
the the own three record and three, that that line
was gonna be I don't believe that for a second.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I don't believe it either. I think that's why we
I think that's why she wrote it, and I think
that's why we're reading it is because she had this.
She's she's trying to save face in some form or fashion.
She knew she was gonna lose it WrestleMania Boo boo,
job face Charlotte Flair to a younger, better talent in
Tiffany Stratton. As far as I'm concerned, Charlotte Flair is

(25:06):
only as good as her opponent is. I like Charlotte
Flair when she's gone up against somebody like Oscar or
Ria Ripley, she's going up against EO. Sky or I
had no interest in watching Bianca Bellair facing Charlotte Flair.
You know, there's just something about Charlotte Flair that I
I'm like, Okay, so she's tall, yay, anything else she

(25:28):
got in the bag, Oh, that's right. She's a Flair,
so we're supposed to like have some sort of attachment
to her, and that's I think that's the biggest thing,
Like the attachment is the fact that she's a Flair.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
I mean, okay, I'll give her this. There were not
a lot of women wrestling the way she wrestled before
she came up.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
But since she because she's as tall as Seth Rollins. True,
you know what I'm saying, Like, that's what I'm saying,
Like she had no choice but to wrestle a man style.
Same thing with Rhea Ripley. Ria Ripley started doing four
or even like doing a moose set kind of like
Oscar or one of the smaller females. Yeah, it would

(26:08):
kind of look off putting, like why is Andre the
Giant doing a four to fifty splash? I don't understand it?

Speaker 5 (26:14):
And so might I might? I might. I might say
that I think Might do it a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, she does do it better because she has the aura,
she has the fact she's into her character or as
we can see right now, Ashley is not into Charlotte Flair.
Let's let's just face as Yeah, you know what that's.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
A good idea. Put her under her mask, her.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Character, Oh grande Americana, how about that Americana. We'll all
know who it is. But see now Louvigor but now,
but now she'd have to team with Ludwig. So that
that that's a terrible idea.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Along the lines of us just talking about whatever the
hell once tonight, I'm gonna drop this in a little bit.
My prediction right now, I think, uh, I think this
is gonna be chad Gables like moments when he comes back,
if they do this right, because Ludmig played the part
great last night, like it just in terms of getting

(27:18):
heat from the crowd and stuff, which is something chad
Gable was getting cheered when he was being El Grande,
and Ludmig was able to actually get food. And it
makes me feel like people just they want Chad Gable
under that mast when Chad Gable comes back. If number one,
he can come back early and they can sell it
as him, you know, he worked really hard to make

(27:39):
his way back. Number two, if they keep El Grande
and you know, not the center of attention, but in
the roster around a little bit, and they can have
a storyline going into it where it's like the real
of Bronde is coming back.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
First off, that's a great old school Lucas storyline, the
idea that you left someone else started playing your part,
you come back and take it.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Back kind of thing. Versus mask match.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
That's who go to the Americano's facing facing off against
each other. But I think about it also.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
It could also be the moment, like that moment that
you needed with Chad Gable to put him over the
edge in terms of being because he'll I think he's
gonna get a lot of bass support when he comes back.
I think the crowd is going to be wanting him
hardcore after getting a few months of this. You know, Gande,
I can't think of a funny name. What's a good
funny German way to steal?

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Got one?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Now moving onokswagon.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
So now so now we have so now you get
Charlotte and you get Tippy team or not Tippy Charlotte
and Alexa teaming up. Did you watch SmackDown? Well no, no,
you didn't get to see that super cheesy. I was
watching it with my kid and before the match started,

(29:00):
Max goes, Okay, here's what's gonna happen. Uh, Charlotte's not
gonna want to do it, and then Alexa is gonna
keep helping her and saving her, and it's gonna get
to where Charlotte by the end is like, Okay, I'll
be on your team and then they're a good team.
That's how it's gonna happen. And I was like, I
don't know if they're gonna that's exactly what happened. Charlotte

(29:23):
was so over the top, just like afterwards, running over
and hugging Alexa and like, oh, we didn't want to
do Like she's such a I don't know.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
It's so fake.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's yeah, it's exactly. It's disingenuous, and it reads all
over her plastic face.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
And it feels like she is desperate for that crowd
to love her, just desperate for it, because you know
that she was sitting at home that entire time that
she was injured, thinking, oh, man, when I come back,
I'm gonna have these guys in the palm of my hands.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
They're gonna go crazy for me.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
And then they did, and you know, it was probably
the biggest most obvious double turn since Austin and Brett
during their match and I don't know what else she expected,
but we're gonna go back to the super chests.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Now. We got George Captor. He does a good show Sundays.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
My favorite Twitter space, by the way, is him and
all Jake on Sunday six oh five Eastern, like like
you know, the old Saturday Night. And he says, excuses
are like a holes and a AW has plenty.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
You know who has more are their fans because I
have not seen a lot of fans. All their fans
seem to be talking about WWE. Really oddly, I thought
to be noticed.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Although your kid made I put out an aw tweet
and all I gotta hear is ww I give me
a break with that.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah, that goes into my counterprogramming thing in a little bit,
but we will get into that now. We got another
one from John Williams for four ninety nine. Taylor Smift
used to babysit a wild slap wild slaps kids a
bit Pokemon game, Double Jade Jeff Jarrett.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
That's wild slap nuts to you, thank you very much.
And Uh, I don't know if there it is why.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Slap nuts and pants double j Jeff Jared.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Uh underrated wrestling YouTuber. By the way, Marky D one
Q three.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
If you don't watch this stuff, you should, especially if
you have any kind of nostalgia for early TNA stuff.
He he goes, he is doing he's doing a series
right now where he is watching every weekly TNA pay
per view and reviewing them and it's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
It just takes me right back there. Alf, you were
in the TNA back in the day.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I was in the TNA. Uh but not see here's
the thing again, TNA's fan base kind of turned me
off to TNA really yeah, yeah, oh yeah, because remember
they were playing the aw role back in the top
at the day.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
A little bit, a little bit for some Yeah yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think the company was better at keeping the separation
the tribalism at Bay better than the fan base was
at the time.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Can I Can I give you my point of view
coming from the other side, because I.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Was a TNA fan at that time, A huge one,
A huge one.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
I went, I drove eight hours about once once a
month to go watch their weekly paper views.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Be intaed he would rub one out in the locker room.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yes, but I, uh, from from that side of it,
I only looked at TNA as like the scrappy underdog
going against WWE, but we still watched WWE.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
It wasn't like we hate WWE. It felt like the.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
People who were doing the big TNA is so much
better than WWE and starting fights and being tribal about
it weren't actually the ones that were watching TNA. It's
very similar to what's going on with AW and now
I believe where the those guys weren't the ones that
were going to the weekly shows, and the weekly shows
were always filled with like juggalos and hit rednecks.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
You know, that's that's the impact zone.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
When they moved to Orlando, that got a little of
that smarty crowd. But now they're the same people that
are in XT so. You know, it's hard to but
I did enjoy TNA back in the day a whole lot.
I thought it really kind of just got messed up
when Russo kind of got too.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Involved in it.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I love this, This is so hilarious. I just I
just I just happened to see neck Beard's comment, and
he is so right. I could never get past that
goddamn six sided ring. It was abysmal looking. What did
you think of it.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
I could take it or leave it. It was never
my thing, like I never felt ownership over it. I
got the idea of it. I was always to me,
it felt like that was TNA way of being like
we are WWE. When you watched T and A, you
immediately knew it wasn't WWE. And part of me respected
that because so many companies just tried to make you

(34:17):
think you're watching WWE. If you stumble on it, you'll
keep watching because you think it's WWE.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
TNA put something right in the middle of your reading
and said, no, you're not watching ww Guys, don't go
elsewhere if that's what you want, because that's not what
you're getting.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Here, right, And I respect that. Then the ratings started
the tank and they were like, hey, you know what
four size that sounds too bad.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
That was number one.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
That was Hogan and number two number two it was
people were getting injured, you know, I mean, it hurt people.
You can't make the spring as you can't make it
as bouncy when it's six sides. You have to have
more support under it. And you know, just by your
virtue of the shape of the ring, it can't can't

(34:57):
be as bouncy, so more people got hurt, and Hogan
came in and said, I'm not bumping on.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
That brother, and they changed.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Looks like a toy, you know. Okay, Well we got
next chef Ednie Back for two dollars. Can even the
great Alexa Blist get Charlotte over?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
No Is Bliss over?

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, okay, okay Bliss.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, she's, I mean, she's she's always like she's. She
has that creepy GoF girl thing going on, which is
always going to be over. It's it's a cheat at
this point, you know, it's why. It's how Julie Hart
tricked people into thinking she was good for six months?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah? Really are you? Are we talking about the archer
Julie Hart, Julia Hart or Julie Julia? I think it's
Julia Hart.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. She tricked people into liking her
for a while by pulling that. So let's see what
we got here, christ fper Miller for five dollars.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
What I want to see is the tickets sold through
a block office box office episode and the number of
comps aka Tony bought tickets for all it. I'm never
gonna see it.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Now, we're not gonna see it unless you know.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
You know, like well, the thing is, even if they
did come out, nobody would believe it, right like people
who it would be the same. It would be the
same conversation you have about the five hundred thousand watching
on match.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
It would be right right, it's gospel. The other side
it's bs and never the two shall meet like it'll
it'll It'll just be one of those things that is
hanging up in the air forever. People will talk about
it for a week and then stop carrying like our truth.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Funny thing is is that in time that truth will
come out. I'm I'm banking on a lot of things
that were said in the last I'd say two three
years are going to come out to be the complete
opposite within the next two three years. We see it
all the time.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Yeah, you can read all about it and the death
of ae w by.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
A page one blank. But yeah, dude, uh tna. That's
the other thing. I wanted to ask you this because
I was doing uh uh tna research or Awful Jeopardy

(37:14):
upcoming Awful Jeopardy. My question to you was, my man,
where are these people?

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Like?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Where did they go? The TENA bands like No No No,
the CNA wrestlers, Like I looked up at Elix Skipper.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Hello, these guys are awesome, Like Elix Skipper was great.
By the way Elix Skipper is. Elix Skipper is like
a proto Scorpios guy. Many Brown, he he's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Perhaps you know the alpha male Money Brown.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
A lot of them.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Many Brown went to w W E and uh, actually
do you know that story? Something apparently happened with his
family and he took a step back from wrestling and
became a man. You know what I'm saying. Okay, he's
taking he's taking care of his That's why Vince Vince
Vince McMahon loved Money Brown. Okay, he was a huge
fan of money But a lot of these guys went

(38:11):
and became chiropractors and gym teachers and stuff like that.
They just you know, they settled in Florida and made
their found their way and if WW wasn't calling, they
went out and got a second job.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Steady money. Yeah, retention retirement, Like you don't get You're
not getting that kind of stuff unless you're paying for
you out of your own pocket. From w and all
that that's right.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah, especially these days, get just do a podcast and
be a chiropractor. That's probably the best bet with if.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
You're forty years old and you're not signing one of
the two companies, start a podcast, become a chiropractor.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
That's my right, exactly. That Bishop I love he's doing.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Really he's one of the only ones that are doing really,
really well.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Crow Bar. I'm I'm joking. I'm joking people.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Think of a good one, Kevin Kelly, you pailed out
of this, Okay, rein back for five dollars OMG and
not liking DX the gasp, the pearls have been clutched, clutched.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
I said, okay, I'll tell you. I'll tell you my mindset.
Can I'll give you my mindset please.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
I UHWO brought me back into wrestling after being too
cool for it for a couple of years, you know,
because I got to be like thirteen and I'm like this,
and then in WO brought me back. And then I
started watching WWWW again and I was like, oh, they're
just doing the nWo Like that is just if you

(39:40):
go from not watching any wrestling to watching just w
CW and then turning on and seeing dx DX just
comes off as they're trying to do the NW.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, it was. It was so blatant, like and I
love how, I love how ww always tries to fucking
rewrite history, like the X was bigger than the NWA. nWo, No,
it wasn't. Listen it's so funny. I think what nineteen
ninety six, the WWF was doing, the New Generation. They

(40:15):
had guys like Bastien Booger Doint the clown. No no,
no offense to these guys, but they were not draws.
They were Bob Spark Plug Holly's giving me douce chills
just thinking about it. And then out of nowhere, out
of nowhere, the nWo appear. First. You know what before
the nWo showed up, When Scott Hall showed up in

(40:37):
his Canadian tuxedo during that one Monday night Nitro, that
was probably that. That just woke me up, like you're
exactly right, like as a fan, like we were watching
it like, oh my god, is anything gonna does the
fun ever start? And then Scott Hall shows up on
the scene and just turns the entire business around. Great time, gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
So I I stopped watching the wrestling just and when
I say stopped, I mean like for six months, you know,
I mean it was like I It wasn't a long
time that I stopped.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
It was just one of those breaks you take when
you're a kid.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
And I was talking to my uncle about it one time,
and and he said, and he was asking me who
the guys I liked in w W WWF for And
I said, well, you know, I really liked like Razor Ramone.
I like Desel, I liked Brett Hart And he goes,
you like Razor Ramone, you should watch WCW. And this
was actually before the WO started. He was he was
one of the newsletter guys, you know, he he got

(41:34):
all those newsletters. So I so that was the first
thing Dave Meltzer ever ruined for me, actually was the nWo.
But it got me back into wrestling. It got me
watching again. And now I will say I have gone back.
I you know, I don't. That's not a blind spot
for me. I've gone back and watched everything that happened
those six months. I've gone back and watched all the
WWF that I wasn't watching at that point. And I

(41:55):
will say there was some good DX stuff. I'm not
gonna sit here and pretend like d X wasn't fun.
Uh the time they put on a tape and you
can see boobies on it, that was when you're fifteen
years old. That's cool.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Man.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Also, they talked about pot. They said, your ass is
grassed and I'm gonna smoke it, right, that was cool. Actually,
I will I like that night actually the night that
d X became the new d X, after Sean left
and and.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Xbox showed up.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
And actually that was the best thing that I ever did.
And I liked you. I thought the New Age Outlaws
did some good stuff back then.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
I uh, you know, there was some there was some
good stuff leading into their face turned anytime before they
turned face. Once they turned face totally, it was right whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
And then you know what the problem with the old
d X Sewn Michaels and Triple H faction was they
never got their come up. And true, they were beating
up sergeants Water, they were beating up Tony Gariea, they
were beating up all sorts of these these stars, old
ass stars. But it was just like people were like,

(43:11):
is anybody gone doing anything to these guys? And then
they were so goddamn juvenile. And then when you turn
the channel over to TNT and you saw some real
high octane action on nitro, the difference was night and day.
You could tell at the time w F was throwing
a lot of shit at the wall hoping something would stick.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
And uh, even during the Attitude era, for a while,
you would watch w CW and it felt like you
were watching a sporting of it.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, felt like, oh yeah, dude, it felt.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Like somebody you'd see on ESPN. And then you turned
on WWF.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
At the time, and even into the Attitude era, it
felt like you were watching Saturday morning television.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
It felt like you were watching a car.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Until Stone Cold came on the scene, until until until yeah,
until he had his segments or whatever. As soon as
stone Colds segments listen, I will never forget the time.
Do you remember when a Stone Cold had the injury
and Jim Ross interviewed him at his home. To me,
that was the day where I was just like, uh, oh,
w F is doing something big because he was cursing.

(44:16):
He was just you know, like they was almost gonna
be flowering. They sent me to these goddamn flowers. I
don't want him and he's talking to Jim Raw.

Speaker 9 (44:24):
It was.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
It was one of the greatest promos. Then he got
like he would start to heal and then he did
like he did this segment where he was he had
the bow and arrow and he was, you know, Owen Heart,
I'm gonna I'm gonna nail you to the to the
cross buddy, And you know, I just thought the whole
thing was great. They it was episodic storytelling and that's

(44:44):
what got them on their way. Meanwhile, just like you said, uh,
w CW was like a sporting event. It was just
like coming up this, that and the other, and it
felt like you were watching the NFL. It's so tough
to like to express that thought to because like everything
is so commercialized overproducing all that. But yeah, it was

(45:05):
great television back in the day.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
It had a darker like the arenas were darker, but
not hiding seats. You know, it's not like dark to
hide the seats. It just and it did have more
of the anything can happen to feel. And the one
thing about WCW up until you know they started panicking
was that they hadn't anything can happen feel and the
things that happened kind of made sense, whereas the anything

(45:32):
can happen feel in WWF, it was like Valvenus got
his penis chopped off and then he didn't because he
made it get hard like that when you when you
compare even at fifteen, sixteen years old, and he's like,
come on, man, I don't want to watch it.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
You know, the boobs are cool, but I don't want
to watch that.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Correct, you know?

Speaker 4 (45:50):
All right, let's move on to the super chats. Da
Sharp comes at us again with another five. Anyway, I
got a question how badly has AW fumbled Dekla that
I think that right?

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Yeah, I mean it's hard for me to say because
I expected it from the second she showed up.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
I didn't have any hope for her at all because
I've seen how AW has introduced every single one of
these women that they sign, and they everyone just feels
like fodder for Mercedes at this point.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
You know, what was it? Chris satlander one title over
the weekend and Mercedes was in her comments making a joke.
But it's like, it's not really a joke. You're gonna
take that title if you.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
And didn't you take it?

Speaker 5 (46:38):
No, not yet, because just want it, like they haven't
had a chance to take it yet. They might, you know,
maybe it'll happen on tomorrow, maybe not tomorrow, but she's
gonna It's not fun because it's like, do you remember
when Triple H was the champion in the early two
thousands and WW the mid two thousands where it kind
of sounds be fun watching because it's like, I don't

(47:01):
they're not going to beat Triple H.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
You know, like how many times It only took a
couple of times for me after seeing like Booker T
and RBD and Kane not beat Triple H that you're
just like, well, no one's beating, like it's not gonna happen,
you know.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
And it's kind of it kind of feels like that
for me with Mercedes right now. So we'll do another super.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
J Alexander told us it's Tecla and not TKLA. We'll
tell that bitch to spell her name right, yes, e
E K l A. How about that America?

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Yeahs Sequel put up with that allstring crap.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Okay, uh twenty three with the five dollars? Why is
aew upset with counter programming? It starts at three eastern
Uh with all they have right now, should be done
by start of Saturday night's main event. Shame maybe to
twenty five K will attend. They won't be done by
the start of They.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Will not.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Tony.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Tony's time management skills are retarded. I mean, he doesn't
know how to. He's gonna still make his ten hour
show for all in guaranteed, and it doesn't by.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
The way, you're gonna get real technical.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
It starts at one pm Eastern because they have zero hour,
which is two hours for some reason. I don't know
why the zero hour is actually two hours, but we do.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
You get a bunch of zero hour leading in, and
I mean they do have what the Great American Bash,
which nobody is talking about except to mention that they
are counter programming. Aw, that's the only, like the only
of all of the shows that.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Right, okay, of all the shows that are happening this weekend,
the only show that I'm seeing people actually talking about
what will happen on the show is Saturda an X made.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
No one's talking about like a single match on all in.
Nobody And you know, let's we'll get in the mind.
We'll get to the topic here right now. Actually, this
makes This is a good segue to that Thank you
BT twenty three. We'll get back to super chats here
in a bit, but right now we have Tony Kahn.
Today on the call was Astro on WWE counterprogramming aw All.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
In Texas next weekend.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
I guess I thought this was anyway, he says, well,
I think we're gonna paun a great event and we
have to focus on putting on the best event we
can with the best wrestlers world. By the way, didn't
Moxley just say on on Wednesday that saying you're the
best bitch shit? Is that how I said it?

Speaker 5 (49:38):
The worst basic bitch ship? Well he just said it twice,
So that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
No, not even an exclamation point right there.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
So we're gonna have a great show next Saturday afternoon.
We're very focused on what aw is doing and the
aw fans, and I think that served us really well.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
That's for shit, because if you'd been doing that for
the last six years, you might be in a better
position than you are today.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
It's true. But my big thing, like I said, is
that it just feels like.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
No one is talking about all in the event right
People are talking about the people are talking about all
in in concept, they're talking about how bad WW is
for counter programming, all in right, But no one is saying, like, man,
I'm really looking forward to Moxley and Hangman in that.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Texas death match. You know, no one's saying that. No
one's saying, man, I can't wait to see what happens
in Mercedes versus Tony Storm. No one's saying that. They're
all talking about WWE. And you know what that means.
It worked.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
That's what the counterprogramming was. It was just to get
people to not talk about AEW, and they've done it.
No one is talking about a W.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
It's in marketing one. You know what I mean? Go ahead, No, no, no,
that That's all I've got to say on that. I mean, how, how,
how how can anybody be angry with this, with the
position and that w W has taken, and how can
you think that AEW has been victimized for slagging off

(51:16):
for an entire year with this event like you should
have actually you should have actually had the main event
of this event called way back in March seriously and
heated it up from there.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
If if it's as big as you claim, it is.
And the fact that people still say like maybe don't
or nothing and that kind of thing, it shows me
that it's just it's so uneven. Like even with w ECW,
it's you know, you got a lot of events, but
you knew Stark was the one. With w WU, you
have a lot of events, but you know WrestleMania is

(51:52):
the one. With TNA, you have a lot of events,
but you know it's bound for Gloria ECW. You know,
it's like all these companies have their big event. This
is this are this is when you really have to
pay attention. And AW has made everything in events they
did in the past two months, they've done what four
or five special edition dynamites.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, really when we.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Had Summer Blockbuster.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
It's it's just it's one of the things where if
you make everything quote unquote special, then nothing is actually
special to no one. Yeah, yeah, no one will. No
one will care about your big events. If you say
that every event is a big event, you have to
pick one and you have to go with it.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
And this should be it.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
It's a good name, it has a legacy, there's there's
heat behind it. They do it in the biggest place.
This should be your big event. And if this is
your big event, you need to do better because right now,
WW put on a Saturday night's main event and a
woman's pay per view and it took all of the
attention away and that should say something about.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Your shows though.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
No, no, and that's what the to be expected. Like
I said, Evolution was never gonna succeed never. There was
never a world they were bullied into doing it.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Okay there was not.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, I'm kind of I may have to agree on that. Yeah, this.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
People have not shut up about evolution for years. Well,
what do you want?

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Do you want a do you want the do you
want the woman to be treated equally as the men
or do you want to separate them and give them
their own ship? You need to pick one because you
can't do both, right, Okay, this is the first show
since maxis start watching wrestling that he has no interest
in watching from WW.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
No, No, he does not care. And like I told him,
I go, uh, you know, I'm doing the marathon on Saturday,
so we're gonna have to watch Saturday nice Man event
on Sunday, which means that we'll have to watch that
nice Man event in Evolution.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
He goes, oh, we don't have to watch Evolution. I go,
you don't want to, you know, I told him something actually,
like we don't have to watch.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Evolution is like an old cereal box, Like the surprises
will be inside the box. Like at the event, I think,
I'm half expecting Awesome Cang to show up. I'm half
expecting Gail Kim. I'm half expecting a like these are
the surprises that evolution. See now, It's it's almost like
Evolution may not be the the soup du jour that day,

(54:19):
but people will be talking about it the next day.
It's kind of like one of those events, like things
are gonna be going down during that particular event, and
uh yeah, I might want to watch it because uh
they're digging up Mulah and bringing her out. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
I I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I left my own right after. You can't half expect it,
but I'm half expecting it because I'm half retarded.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Okay, yeah, you paige it into that chat.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
I'll page it in the super chats and we'll have
the whole thing covered easy. I uh yeah, what's my
own devices. I'd watch, but that's because I watch everything
that's my own devices. But I'd also watch it very
differently because when I'm not watching with Max, I'm watching critically.
When I'm watching with Max, I'm watching as the dad
watching with his kid. When I'm not watching with him,
I watched it critically, and it always ends up being

(55:09):
worse for me when I do that way. It's it's
there's something that said be said about the build, although
I'd argue that.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
They've done just as much build on this as they
did Saturday X main Event.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
It's not their fault that things happen. It's not their
fault Live got injured and kind of did completely throw
the thing for a loop. This was now that it
has to be a completely different part because she was
fight Nikki and now they got to do all that,
so clearly that messed things up.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
It has about as much build as any other w
paper view. This isn't WrestleMania, you know, this is a
WWE pay per view secondary. Third what's the word third, dary,
But there's not a word. What's will be the word? Yeah,
it's it's not.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
This is as big as like in the next tea
paper in my mind, So I don't know, dude, is
it is it upsetting?

Speaker 5 (56:07):
I guess I don't what do they want? What do
we want?

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Okay, if there's any women wrestling fans in the in
the chat tonight, do you want a separate show for
women or do you want the women to be featured
equally on the show that they're on. I don't understand
what people want anymore, because half the time.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
They're arguing that they're not pushed as well as the men,
and then half the time they're arguing that they should be,
that they want their own pay per view. I don't
know what do you want?

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Because if the women were being treated as men, the
undercard to the show would be filled up with men's batches, right,
Like that's that would be the equal way to do this.
So I don't I don't really know what in my mind,
you if you're over, you're over, and you get the
spot because you're over, you don't get a special show.
There's not a special a tag team pay per view.

(56:55):
There's not a special Intercontinental Division pay per view, you know, like, just.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Let's just go balls out with this, like if, if,
if there's gonna be a women's show. I'm surprised the
little people are not fighting for a little people show.
In fact, bring back the midget wrestling. I'm not joking
when I say this. You need some sort of and
in fact, I would encourage AW to do to do
such a thing, like at least have one midget match

(57:25):
on television, because if you really want to get a laugh,
that's that's how you do it, or if you want
to like do a departure from the seriousness of everything.
And I know people are gonna be like, ah, he's
only joking. No, no, no, I mean it. Bring back midgets,
make midgets great again, Make midgets great again? Why the

(57:52):
hell not?

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Like, I'm personally of the mind that they should make
a woman's show. I think there should be a woman's show.
Think there should be one show, like one show in WW,
specifically the women, and I think they should put it nights, yep,
Wednesday nights, seven pm Central Time.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, why not. Let's see what they can do against
the greatest professional wrestlers in the world.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Yeah, let's see it it.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Put your money, just put your money where you're out
the guys, like, if you really want this, then support
it that way.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
Pick al a though, pick because.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
I got a question though, Yes, sir, Why is Tony
Khan doing media? Why is he the only one out
there doing media. It's almost as if he overshadows his
own fucking company. And that's the problem that aw's always had.
He overshadows it just but he'sn't even there, but you
can feel his presence.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Here's here's me. Here's me giving more props to someone
on the AW roster. Uh In Jail was doing the
media rounds earlier.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. And he
came out, he and Tony, Okay, that's true. Where's Moxley?

Speaker 5 (59:07):
They should be well, they should be on like the
Tonight Show and they should be on SportsCenter and they
that's where they should be, right not I mean, mgf.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
He did his biggest interview looks like it was from
TV Insider, which I know is a big deal twenty
years ago, but not so much now.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
But you know what, And he also said when he
was asking about counter programming, he said, good, they should
be counter programming. And that's what you should say.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
If you're in the company they're counter programming against, then
you use it to your advantage. You say, look, they
must think that we're the ship because they're they're they're
counter programming.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
I said, it's not true. In my right, I think
it's true. I think they're counter programming because that's what
WWE does. They always have.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
It's about stopping them when they're still small, so that
they don't become competition. It's not so much about being
afraid that they are competition, it's about just making sure
they never are. And that's what they're doing. They're dominating
the conversation. They're dominating online top. That's where ww cares
about the IWC is that I'm pretty sure they think
that the IWC are just all aw fants, right, and

(01:00:14):
so that's where they care about it, you know, is
that they want they want to dominate their conversation and
they are right now, like it or not, for better
or worse.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Everyone's saying. Everyone might be saying, oh, they're you know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
The dumbest take I've seen is that they are sabotaging
the women's share on purpose because they don't want.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
To do more. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Yes, yes, yes, because a.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Multi billion dollar corporation is going to hurt their bottom
line to prove a point. You know, like if if
this was Tony, I believe that that sounds like that
sounds exactly like something a billionaire's son would do is
do a show that they know would fail, just to
prove a point and never have to do it again.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
But I don't think. I don't think WWE is in
the business is in the business of doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
I'm gonna do a few more super chats and then
we're going to talk about some color programming throughout history,
because this is not new okay, and it's not the
specific WWE, so I do want to show that a
little bit. But right now we got uh, oh, you
know what, let me take this away.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Let's do this right. If we're gonna do it, what
our our Khan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Ali kron aller kan damn, you take your mask off
and speak.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
Correctly, Alton color time, I don't read good, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I know you're about to call him juwan.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
Jo.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Yeah, hey queens. He called us queens, so he deserves Hey, queens.
What's your favorite worst moment or worst time in wrestling?

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
I can't do that, so we'll just have uh, Scottie
Steinder do it while I'm pulling that up.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
You got anything that comes to your head right away?
What was my favorite?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah? We kind of talked about it earlier. WWF from
what nineteen ninety three till around nineteen ninety seven was
just abysmal professional wrestling, and believe it or not, I
can't remember, but it was like the mid two thousands

(01:02:34):
for WWE was just like I was. I was completely out.
I wasn't watching any of that nonsense. I actually came
back to wrestling when Kurt Angle I think, won the championship.
It was that two thousand and one, two thousand and
two whatever, And then I really got back into it
when I saw brock Lesnar just terrorizing over everybody because

(01:02:54):
I saw him at the collegiate level and I was like,
oh my god, they brought they brought it, brock Listener.
I would have never guessed that he would have been
this good, but uh yeah, there there there's a lot
of terrible times in professional wrestling, a lot of terrible
eras that I had to suffer through. So you guys
can pretty much understand my cynicism when it comes to

(01:03:15):
bad wrestling. I've seen it all.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
For me, I think it has to be the the
era right before the Bloodline, that kind of two year
the Ronda Rousey Mercedes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Like that right, right, Okay, it was okay, it was tolerable,
but I thought it was really what. Yeah, I was
watching the pay per views at that time. I was
not watching their.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Weekly yeah, and I would watch the big pay per views.
I would give my friends and watch the big pay
per views. I had watched the Virons series, Rumble, that
kind of stuff. But like every time I watched it
was just like, oh, this is getting even worse. And
and a lot of it was because it was from
a distance. I was a I was a new father,
I a lot of things going on in my personal life,

(01:04:01):
so I had to step back and just kind of
watch from a distance. And from a distance, it's like
you tune in and you're like, oh, now, Brave Materios
kid is a champion.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
He didn't even go to n XT And then he
look up and no, he didn't go to n x T.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
And then okay, well bray Wyatt is doing that stupid
thing with seth Rawlins and this like it's like every
something that Rodner.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
Rousey's back and she wins everything.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
You know, It's like every time I tune back in,
something else stupid was happening, right, And it just made
me not and then what was it the lastly Russev.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
And I don't think, well, yeah, that's the did you
hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
Am? I here? Am I good? I can hear you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
I'm gonna keep talking because I think I'm okay. The
uh the Russev wanna lastly stuff was dumb. The cuugh
storyline they did with them almost making weird noise. Oh
real quick, Awful is a robot. Awful, restart your stuff.

(01:05:06):
I will take over because Regina Sharp, this games fifty bucks.
That's a big one triple ah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
That's right, because I'm sabotaging the show to cause need
to make less money because I'm a moron. Well, thank you,
Regina Sharp, and you get our thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
All I do is we we we no matter what money?
Oh my mind, everybody.

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
They stayed there.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
So there we go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
While Awful is fixing his stuff, I will continue to
go through some stuper chats because I just did the
big one double a with five dollars. Question if the
Texas residents suffered from the plugying, why is aew the
only one that's washed?

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
Heyo, you know, funny story.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
I message a good friend of mine and I said,
with that idea of aew offering free tickets to people
who were victims of the flooding, and the response I
got was why would you ever want to do that to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
So that was going, thank you double A for the
five dollars. Now we're going to forever run or runner
the power of the one nine nine b DSM style.
Of course, I'm assuming that it's talking about the uh
other thing. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Okay, moving to sorry you have to if you if
you hit me up in the regular chat, I will know.
I'm sure awful knows.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
But he is dead right now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
So we got another one from John Williams four ninety nine.
Rick as in Rickclair, just do what I do when
I feel down, Ashley. What oh, okay, you should have
had a comma there, you should have had this right now.
Let me let me let me read this like, I
just do what I do when I feel down, Ashley
and Rick Flair. That sounds like something Rickclair might say,
but no, he's saying, just do what I do when

(01:06:51):
I feel down, Ashley.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Just drink alcohol like the fish.

Speaker 8 (01:06:55):
Woooo.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
So Rickclair has been running a monk and an office back.
Rick Clair has been running a muck in Tampa recently.
I don't know if anybody's heard about this too much,
but there's a whole Reddit page about Rick Clair's adventures
in Tampa getting kicked out of bars and picked up
on the street and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
So and they always spell his name ri c K
because they don't know how to spell. But thank you again,
John Williams for the four ninety nine I'll pull you back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
I think, so, how do I sound?

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Yeah? You sound fine?

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
A we're doing some super Yeah, we're doing some super chats.
We got BT twenty three for two dollars. Chance of
sanitis made have an ebo to being better than all
in Texas. I think, what do you think, GoF what
are the chances that it'll be better?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
I'm giving it seventy thirty.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
See.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
One thing about a EW is that they always have
one well not recently, but they always seem to have
like one match that grabs my tension. Everything else is
dog shits.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Well, I'm not looking forward to their fake Texas death
Match because they don't know how to do with Texas
death match and it will probably just be you know,
they'll use a chainsaw or something. I'm sure I guess
I guess Oconta Kenny kind of is interesting to me
a little bit, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
I mean, I don't know the tag stuff I don't
care about. I know a lot of people are very
down on the Hurt business or Hurt syndickeate. Now they're
saying that they're burying all the baby based sag teams,
and it's like, yeah, when you look like Bobby Lashley
what he's supposed to do, you're.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Gonna put over Kevin Knight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Really, you know you're gonna put over Mike Bailey when
you're Bobby Lashley.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
Like, come on, guys, seriously, Uh, don't bother? Yeah, all
n would have to do a lot to be better
for me, because I just can't. It is very hard
for me to enjoy a w because it's it's more
just because they're so statter shot. There's no through line
on the shows. There's no there's nothing to keep you hooked.

(01:09:04):
It's all just like this happened, and then this happened,
and then this happened, and this happened. It seems like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
You're being told a story by an eight year old
with add you know, it's not wrestling. To me, it
doesn't feel like that. I've described it for as like
the Wrestling Robot Chicken. It just feels like a bunch
of things that happened. It doesn't feel like a show,
and it's hard to keep my attention when it's like that.
At least WWE has like a through line. They'll go
back to things and you know, I don't know, but

(01:09:28):
that's that's my biggest issue with aw is that it
just feels like things that are happening, you know. So, okay,
we got should we keep doing super chats or should
we go back?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
What do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Awful? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Christopher Miller with two dollars, This are you being played
by a German snight? Because I'm on Grande Americana. Uh No,
I actually I did take three years of German and
high school and I remember one thing and it's veristas
toilet to Garriton. I can find a toilet if I
ever go to Germany. Oh, and I know how to

(01:10:02):
say uh. I like to play soccer because you don't
call it soccer, you call it because that's what they
called it. So thank you very much, Christmas Joseph Jame
Xander for two dollars, ron Da Americano versus Vinti Americano. Yes,
the the Starbucks chip, I like it, Thank you very much, Joseph,

(01:10:24):
Jay Alexander.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
And then we go Joseph the the next awful Jeopardy round.
You won't be in it, but you'll be You'll be
notified once you're once you're ready to go with you
you are.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
I'll tell you this awful.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
You are a little choppy, but I'm not going to
complain because if you're gone, then I'm doing this solo.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
So we're cool.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Next, we got Chef Benny with another two bucks. Can
someone get Britt Baker a bottle of water? I assume
that has to do with the Britt Baker tweet that
she put out. Did you see that whole thing awful?

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
What did she say?

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
You know, the thing where it's like if you're not
appreciated in one place?

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
I guess my question about that, right is, first off,
I'll go ahead and let I'll go ahead and say it.
I know for a fact that that story was was bullshit.
The whole thing about her actively trying to leave a
w and go to w WE in time to be
there for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
That that was not a truth.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
By the way, it's been long enough, I think we
can that. Yeah, that that that story was not true.
It was a planted story and people ran with it
and then and then made people pay for it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:49):
So if you paid for a certain discord that gave
you that information, I don't feel sorry for you, but
you might want to know in the future that anything
you hear from those people might not be very true.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Yeah, that that story wasn't true. Now, what does she
want out of a W? I mean probably I kind
of assume that for everyone in age, So, uh, she
probably wants out of a W. What what can you
think of a reason she wouldn't want out of a W?
Because I sure can't. Oh look, wait a second, Wait
a second, wait a second.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
We have two affls. I don't know if you wanted.
Let's put them both on. This will be fun awful.
You're all this shore.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
You got two affles and none of them were talking,
So I'm gonna keep telling you here. Yes, the fruit
Baker story was false, But like I said.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
That's Beard.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Where's Beard? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
I get it?

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Okay? Are you are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Awful?

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
Are you back?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Yes? I can?

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
I can hear you very well? So Awful is back,
and uh we need to find there we go. We
are on our next one, which is Regina's are for
five dollars here at aw we value so much even
our zero hour is made of two regular hours.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
More bang for your buck here at eight.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
That reminds me of my old uh my old, my
old gimmick where I used to start every tweet with
here at the aw Disciplinary Committee.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
Remember that. Okay, those were.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Good days, but I don't do that anymore because it
stopped being fun. Awful's wrestling with his microphone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
No, I'm good now, I but then, yeah, we missed
the charts, my man.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
You missed it. Okay, Okay, should I explain why I
don't do the charts because I don't think I ever really?

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
All right, why did I start? You can explain why
I started doing the chart. I believe a probably better.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Than I'm sure. I'll do that, hopefully. I don't sound
like you know, determined or Robert F. Kennedy anyway. So yeah,
I used to I used to uh take the wrestle
Nomics quarter hourly charts and post them and make fun
of them and all that not make fun of Brandon

(01:14:11):
Brandon Thirsty for Wrestle Nomics, that this motherfucker had the
nerve to put on one of his charts that what
was at disk, like, uh, this this, this information is
not to be shared. It's were subscribers only losers share this.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Yeah, and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Uh that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
You took it personally, And I believe I took it
more personally because I start I proceeded to make a
chart every week for about eight months.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Yeah, because inspired by Wrestle Nomics.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
Well, his comment to you, I believe, was you can
talk about the chart, you can share the information from
the chart, you can make your own chart, just don't
post the picture of this chart.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
And so I said, okay, I'll make my own chart.
So I made my own chart.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
I did it for about eight months and I stopped
because everyone just started sharing the chart again and he
stopped carrying so the read the purpose wasn't there anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
I thought it took. It took more work than I
wanted it to, and people were giving a little demanding
about it. I was getting messages like you give me
the info first, to you make sure that you send
it to me so that I can post it. You
know that kind of stuff, And yeah, no, no, no,

(01:15:36):
I'm not. I don't play those counselor not counselor counselor
did not. Yeah, but I am petty. I am petty,
but I am not someone's tool except for you anyway, Toy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Tyler go Onski for one shout out to the one
nine nine AW will challenge the wrestl media record with
women's v No what which rustle meedia record are we talking?
Are we talking about the attendance record? Either way, I

(01:16:16):
don't see any women in a W that can really
carry that. I mean, and and it doesn't really matter
because if anyone picks up steam, as we've seen the
Tony Storm, they're just gonna milk it until it's dead,
you know. So it's the only thing a W can
do to challenge WW at this point is to get
somebody else running in except for Tony time.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
I don't think there's any other way to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
In But I think Storm is closing the show on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
No, No, because I think they was, Yeah, because I
think they want the moment. I think they want the
I mean, there's a few things they could do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
What moment? What do you think is gonna happen. I
think Darby, okay, all right, well come in and win,
doubtful coming in door running and cause Hangman to lose.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
I think I think there will be more of a
thing where I think Mosley's winning, and I think that
they will do the because you know, all out right
around the color and I think Darby winning it all
out will be the big story if I had to guess,
because it just it just doesn't feel like Hangman's story.

(01:17:32):
It feels like he's coming in and stealing someone else's
story a little bit, you know. Yeah, Darby wanted to
go fight a mountain or whatever he did, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:17:40):
And so.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
It's it's all see, that's what I mean. He can't
talk about anyw without getting to this stuff. Like Darby,
we talked about it in the in the back chack, right,
Like Darby should be the guy Darby should be.

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
He's right, He's the one that's over, he's the one
that's different. He's the one that could get them attention.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
He's there, Jeff Hardy, and he's still He's never going
to do it as long as he has to go,
you know, climb him out in a rustle school bus,
or ride a skateboard or jump a gorge or whatever
you know, sprinfield gorge or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
He does this week.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
As long as he wants to be that guy, he can't.
He cannot put the belt on him and make him
the guy of your of your of your shell.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
It just he just can't do it again. Right, if
Tony had any fucking balls, you sit that little torp
down and you say, listen, new contract. You're gonna sign
it right here. Don't read the fine print because it
says you're not going to be doing any stupid stunts
for the next six to eight months. And uh, if
you do do such a thing, we'll take our belt

(01:18:42):
back and you can hike it to the Indies. You punk,
because you are our golden goose, and from here on
out you are going to play the golden goose like
a golden goose. So get your ass and gear, put
the makeup on, play it safe. There will be no
bike riding, there will be no surfing or jumping off

(01:19:04):
the mountains or whatever. It's over for that. But Tony
Conn's got to have some balls for that to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
He won't. And because what's what's Darby's other option, Like
you said, it has to be the indies, because here
what he really should say is, why don't you take
this to to t KO and see how much they
let you do. Go to t k oh and see
if they want you to do any of this stuff,
you know, and say, hey, if you can do something
without interfering with your wrestling, fine, go for it. If

(01:19:30):
you can do this stuff without worrying about being injured
or wait until the time when we don't need you,
go for it. But when we need you, you have
to be ours. And that's it, and that's you know,
you gotta put your foot down like that. And if
if he's not willing to play ball like that, then
he should never be the guy and he won't be
well actually, no, let me phrase that he will be

(01:19:50):
the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
He shouldn't be the guy. I still think they're gonna
do it. I still think they're gonna pull the trigger
on it, and I think it's gonna come back to
buy them.

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
That's something.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Have him do stunts's main events, you know what I mean,
like kind of like what Evil Knievel did, like at
the at the nine five hour Darby Allen's gonna jump
out of a plane. Okay, great, it's not the worst idea.
If he wants to do these dumb ass stunts, at
least do them on our programming so we can get

(01:20:19):
a ratings bump or something.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Yeah something, Yeah, do it for me. Yeah, that's perfect.
That's that's that's actually, that is actually what WW would do.
That's a WWE idea.

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
Yeah, right, they did it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
With Mark Henry. I'll never forget the time they had
him pull a truck or whatever and do all these
like strong man stunts.

Speaker 8 (01:20:37):
It works.

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
Yeah, and so let Darby you know, right, he can
he can ride a dirt bike over the ring, or
he can jump down from the top of the shit.
Whatever he wants to do, he can do it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
But it has to be in service of AEW because
I do think that he is different enough. He's different
from not only is he different from what they offer,
but he's different from what WWE offers. And that's the
biggest point, right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Is that you want to be different.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Remember when when Eric Bischoff succeeded in WW, did he say, Okay,
we need to figure out everything WW is doing and
do that or did he say we need to figure
out everything WW is doing and do the opposite, and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
He wrote a list of all those things.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
Yeah and yeah, he succeeded because he did the opposite
of what WW was doing. AW started saying they were
going to do that, and while Cody was there, they
still kind of had that mindset. But as we pretty
I'm convinced that the entire all that entire bill of
goods that we were sold when AW started was Cody's vision.

(01:21:40):
I don't think any of that was anyone else's vision
because Kenney Omega just bought into the idea of we're
doing Japan in the United States, and he was just
happy that he got to do his long matches and
he didn't care. And the Bucks, they just want to
be They just want to stand in the middle of
the ring and jerk off. That's all the Bucks want
to do, right, Like if they could, if they could

(01:22:01):
make an entire company where they sit in the middle
of the ring and jerked off from everybody, they would
make that company.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
And they.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
But yeah, they they just you know, they have the
Louis k k thing. They just want people to look
at him. They don't care what's for, right, it gets excited,
That's that's all a buck. They didn't have a vision.
They just wanted to do that and play with their friends.
Cody's the woman had the vision. He left, and he's
doing that in WW now so they have to deal
with it. But yeah, but now you have somebody who

(01:22:30):
actually is different, who can do something, and instead he
is climbing up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
So you know what Darby Allen's problem though, is he
can't talk.

Speaker 5 (01:22:41):
Neither could Jeff Hardy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Okay, all right, all right, I guess he could kind
of talk.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Jeffarty literally couldn't talk. He literally couldn't make words. It
was just every time we talked to him like, that's all.
And he made terrible music. That's what Jeff Hardy did.
He is not a promo guy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Uh so you see the writing on the wall.

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
Yeah, oh man. And when TNA let him do his
own music too, it was so soon. Okay, control kill you,
so Bremon White for I guess power to the one
nine nine, even if it is that euros or pounds.
They forget only uh, they forget, only done evolution. Women

(01:23:33):
couldn't do Saudi.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
Oh when women they did evolution, They only did evolution
because women couldn't do Saudi. True that's a good point.
It was it was innate good for the fact that
women couldn't wrestle with Saudia Radia. So what is it
now now to make good to neckbeard to complained because
there are enough women on TV? I guess, But yeah,
that's that's that's something I even think about double A

(01:23:57):
with twenty dollars?

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
Can you class Can you classify someone as the goat
if they haven't succeeded as both face and heel in
my opinion is total package of technical ability, promo skills
and being a drum.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Charlotte is the greatest in ring performer, but not the
best overall awful. You seem to have an opinion on this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Damn who would be the greatest? Like female professional wrestler
who could do it all? Talk? And the problem is
is that I think of sensational Sherry, but she her
her career was comment compartmentalized from wrestler to manager, and
she was great as a manager for Harlem Heat, for
Randy Savage, for Shawn Michaels, for Ted Dibiassi. Uh but

(01:24:39):
man as far as hmmm mmmm, that's a tough one.
Like for me personally, it's Oscar I think she can
do it all. But right now, yah, yeah, but but
but nobody like right now, I guess people are going
to say, really, or Bianka bell are okay, all right? Great,

(01:25:00):
maybe Becky Lynch she's close, Yeah, she's she's close. Actually,
I will say.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
I will say that, you know a lot of people
really didn't like that segment from a couple of days ago,
but or yesterday. But Becky has done a better job
getting people to boo her, which was the you know,
and then she did her on her last heel, her
last heel run, she had a hard time getting people
to boo her, but she had no problem getting people

(01:25:27):
to boo her this time.

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
Who is the best? Though? I mean, the problem is
is that it's a different It's it's like women's wrestling
is an entirely different thing than it was twenty years ago.
You know, you take people like my first my first
instinct was tris Stratus, because Tristratus was a great face,
she was a great heel. She did what she had
to do to become a good worker.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
She represented the company well, she had longevity, she wasn't
injured all the time like Trish, you know, like her
heel work with like Christian was Chef's kiss her stuff.
She can make them hate them, she can make them
love them love her. But when you take her and
compare her angering stuff to current people, she doesn't hold up.

(01:26:11):
And Lida, Lida, she always someone else, in my opinion,
the Heartys she needed Trish, she needed edge. She was
never able to just be Lda on her own, similar
to a lot of a lot of women unfortunately of

(01:26:32):
that time period, where they had to be attached to
someone else to really get over so greatest of all time,
I think, Trish, I think, I think if you have
to go overall, I think it has to.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Be that rose colored rose colored lenses there.

Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
Just though no, because I said that, I don't think
she was as good a worker as a woman now.
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
I think I don't make she holds up. But the
women now haven't had enough time to really establish themselves
as being that performer.

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
You know, you know what, calm, I might just say.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Calm, Yeah, you know, uh, who was the who's the
other big girl? Damn? Hell yeah with her and a
lunch of blaze awesome?

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Yeah, yeah, because she was she was a better worker
than trash and uh, you know because She had to
fight Mint a lot of the time, so she knew
what she was doing it there, but she wasn't like
China where you know, I'm sorry, I know that people
have a lot of roast, you know, roastin glasses about China.

(01:27:48):
China could not get the job done unless she was
in there with like a Jerika or someone who could
carry her, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
So, yeah, you got Bull McConnell, you got me do
so a j Lee. I don't think it was around
long enough to really know she was good. She was good,
and she she was in terms of a character, she
was one of the best I think.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
I don't think Anyon would argue with that, but she
wasn't around long enough to really become the best. You know,
I was gonna say, there's a couple of sleepers, Mickey James.
She that that run against Trish. I was there at
that WrestleMania when she licked her hand, you know, and
that moment, yeh changed that That moment changed wrestling. I

(01:28:34):
will say that moment changed wrestling fandom forever.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
That was the moment, didn't Yeah, you go back, but
if you go back and.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Watch that moment, that moment, it was like the people
in the crowd were like, oh, wait a second, we
can cheer for her, can't be?

Speaker 5 (01:28:51):
And then every WrestleMania for the next ten years they
were cheering for heels. Started with Mickey James licking her
palm when she gave Stritch her body, slamming.

Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
Nicky's good. Gail Gail Kim her stuff in TNA was excellent.
The Knockout Division stuff so underrated. Uh, the beautiful people
were great. I mean I'm not talking about goats there,
but you know they were.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
They were great. But you know somebody who I don't
think it's in a credit is Molly Holly.

Speaker 7 (01:29:21):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
She was awesome. Listen, I need everybody to go to
see like just an average Molly Holly uh match. She
was so you know, she reminds me of she reminds
she reminds me or she re Serena deeb is also
in that vein where it's just like I can watch
anything she's doing. Does she not a talk? And not really?

(01:29:46):
But Molly Holly, Serena deb Osca, It's just like something
They're so fluid. So oh, you know who else who
was a part of the the ptc ivory was phenomenal,
jan Victoria Jack, Jacqueline Texas. Come on now, she might

(01:30:06):
be the greatest. She might be the greatest in all of.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
These women that we've just mentioned, the Mickey James, the
ge the Ivories, the Gail Kims, the Mally Hollies.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
They were better than the trashes and the leaders in
the ring. I'm sorry, easy, they were easy.

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
So I yeah, one of those. I'm gonna I'm gonna go.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
This is a deep poll, okay, And there are gonna
be some people in the chat that will get it
and they'll be like yes when they hear it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:34):
Okay, there's a very very deep poll. Okay, because we're
going into Shimmer, We're going into Japan, We're going into
that kind of stuff. But mischief, if you ever got
to see mischief, mischief I got to see. I'm a
little biased because I didn't see her kind of while
I was seeing her, I was watching her while she
was still training because she was from Saint Louis.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
But she went on to be the champion and Shimmer.
She went wanted to be a big, big star in Japan.
She has a holiday she had or not a holiday,
but she had the day in Saint Louis. Mischief Day
is in March Sat Louis. She just got into the
Women's Hall of the Wrestling Pro Westling Hall of Fame
in Saint Louis. But she she had that kind of

(01:31:17):
like goth She reminded me, imagine Daphney. If Daphney was
like three times the worker. She was right, that was
basically what mischief was. She was doing the uh, she
was doing the the the mist back in the late nineties,
early two thousands. You know, So, I I have a

(01:31:38):
really soft spot for mischief. I always wanted to.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
I always was a little upset that she didn't get
into like WW or WW or not w w W
or TENA. She'd get in TEENA a little bit and
she wasn't a ring of honor. But the reason she
never really made it w W is because she became
a literal rocket scientist.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
So wow, I'm bad.

Speaker 6 (01:31:56):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
That's know who else as far as like, how about
any potentials that you see today as far as female wrestlers,
Because I've got one potential and uh, don't read it though, Okay, okay, okay, okay,
let see give us one second folks there, so you

(01:32:18):
go ahead and talk okay, I mean very very mainstream.
I've got somebody who's on the indie scene who looks
awesome and I think everybody should check her out. And
I'm not creep at all. No bad Nikki Blackhart. She's
doing too much posing like it's just like, oh my god,
they noticed me, Let me show my ass. And no

(01:32:38):
offense to Nicky black Art. I'm sure she's a great worker.
But there's somebody out there, and please don't take offense.
If you're listening, I doubt you are. But Jeni Kai
is a little smurfy looking and she's purposely ugly, so
I just want you to you know, she's purposely made
herself ugly. It's an awesome gimmick. She's like, I'm karate

(01:33:01):
like uh uh you know, kickfighter, but she is so
hard okay, yeah, karate fighter.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
We had a flashback to like Jerry Lawler fighting with
the clown and karate fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Jnai Kai is great. I saw a couple of her
clips and all that, and uh, you know, I immediately
followed and hopefully she doesn't think I'm a goddamn creep.
She's probably just as old as my daughter. But another
one somebody said, Hollywood, Haley Jay, she's phenomenal in that documentary.
I think the ov W documentary she was fantastic. Okay,
I can't believe she's not been signed yet.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
I've heard that there might be issues backstage with her,
that she might be hard to work with, or she
has bad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
I can believe it, or something like that. So yeah,
put her in the NXT roster. She's gonna be She's yeah,
because she's one of them types.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
The one that I said in the backshot was rock sane.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Yeah he is.

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
I did not. I'm unfamiliar with Roxanne. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
I apologize I was unfamiliar with your work.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
I was unfamiliar with respectfully, But man, she really does
like she is what everyone pretends A J Lee was, right,
That's what That's what she comes off as to me,
as like everyone pretends A j Lee was this amazing
wrestler who could do Roxanne really is that Roxanne was

(01:34:31):
able to carry Jade. Okay, Like Roxanne has something and
she made me interested in Raquel for the first time
in my adult life. I mentioned cal Rodriguez because of Roxanne.
Actually that's not fair. I'm probably more interested in it.
Because of Rio, because that matter Nighted Champions was awesome.

(01:34:52):
My match of the show personally.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Did Jim Cornett didn't really like it because he was
just like that and bumping all over the place and
you know, using try candle and I was just like,
so what, dude, Like, Sometimes you gotta go there and
as long as it's hard hitting a legit, it works.
Just like stat Landern and uh Willow Nightingale, same formula applies.
If you're gonna use the table, smash that bitch through it.

(01:35:16):
If you're going to use the trash, can hit her
over the head hard as hell, make it look impactful.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
It always looks better when you can tell that they're
comfortable and that it's either that they're comfortable with enough
enough with each other to actually hit each other, or
they really don't like each other. If you get one
of those two extremes, you're gonna have a pretty good match.
And yeah, I thought that match was outstanding. But like
I said, Roxanne just has a lot of the next

(01:35:47):
There is a big difference for me where there are
women who wrestle like women, and I don't really know
what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
I can't really put my finger on it. But it's softer,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Live Morgan wrestles like a woman. Somehow it works.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Because that's her gimmick. That's like there's she's allowed to
be the one.

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
If there were no other women that did this, it
would be fine. And because we have less women that
do this, I think it's okay. But there is that
like stofter style that we've been trained to understand women
have to do. There's extra moves they have to be
they have to add the cartwheels, they have to add
the little that do mean anything, and.

Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
We're just supposed to like be okay with it for
some reason. And it's like, no, you know, this brings
me to another We're we're we're we're full, we're free
flowing here people deal with deal with it. We're gonna
be all over the place far. No.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
A big one that I got that that kind of
got on me over the week was on SmackDown, they
did that. They someone pulled out a clip of uh
Phoenix where.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Axiom was given them a DDT and Phoenix popped out
did a springboard out of the d d T and
in the back of the like, oh, he's no selling,
I thought you said it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
I thought you guys hated this no selling crap huh,
But here it is and it's like, no, he didn't know,
so he got out of the move.

Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
Escape the move.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
That post was community noted for saying such. Wasn't just that, yeah,
it was just like no, no, no, he actually escapes
the move.

Speaker 5 (01:37:20):
Well, they should do another one because today I saw
the exact same post about uh Pinta last night when
he did the buckle bomb and then it went into
a Canadian destroyer because guess what, Pincer landed on his feet.
He did not take a buckle bomb. He was leaning
against the turn buckle, but he did not take a
buckle bomb. Is when you took a buckle bomb, you

(01:37:40):
land with your weight shifted on the bat like on
the upper part of your back between your shoulders, and
the turn buckle hits you there coming you come down
on it and then your feet hit the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
He landed standing straight up, leaning into the corner. That's
not taking a buckle bomb. He got out of the move.
Corey Graves didn't sell it, so that's probably respault a
little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
But it's the same thing. These aren't that. It is
logical wrestling stuff and it's and and it. It is
something that they need to work on with the women
in the next specifically because every time I watch the
women's next team matches, they're still doing the Hey, let's
do three cart wheels here, let's do an extra flip
here for no reason. And it doesn't make sense when

(01:38:21):
you're trying to watch wrestling. When you're trying to you
don't watch wrestling for realism.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
We all understand wrestling isn't real. Jesse Ventura said.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
It best, which is like, when you're watching it, you
want it to be you want it to real, Well.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
You wanna you want to You want it to be
real enough that you can get lost in it, that
you can give yourself over to it. Jesse Ventura had
a great quote back of the day, which is like,
if you expect wrestling to be real all the time,
then you can't get past an Irish wind, right, Like
I is, the is the most ridiculous move in the
world if you want wrestling to be read. So you
got to get past that a little bit. But when

(01:38:57):
you see people exerting themselves by doing cartwheels and flips
and stuff that don't actually matter, all they do is
make you more tired and you can't fight as well
because you're more fatigued. That kind of stuff gets on
my nerves, and we, especially like I said, NXT, still
has a little problem with that, although I will say
that usually by the time they get up to the

(01:39:18):
main roster most of that stuff has born off. You
still have Charlotte, though, who has to make a wheel
has to do what a Charlotte have. So somebody freaking yes,
we get it. You can do a cartwheel. You're yeah,
that's great. Guess what you're not Bam Bam Bigelow. Okay,
when Bam Bigelow did a cartwheel, it was impressive. When
you do a cartwheel, it's expected. No one cares if

(01:39:40):
you can do a cartwheel anymore. It's like, that's something
used to me about China. We'rebout China used to do
the stupid cartwheels. It's like that's no if anything, it's
less momentum.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
And when he got it like to the with the elbow,
to the uh in the corner, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
And when you got a guy like bron Breaker on
the same show running twenty six miles an hour and
it all being about momentum, and then a match later
you have Charlotte Flair doing an extra cartwheel to look
fun like I guess Charlote kind of gets away with it.
C cincerdemic, but it's still.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
It will definitely, will definitely go to the Super Chats
in a second. I got a question for you. Is
it just me? Or's bron Breakers spears looking jankier and
jankier by the week, Like, what is this. I'm just
gonna like, I'm not really gonna spare you. I'm just
gonna rep my arm around you, please.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
I have a theory that is him working with guys
who don't want to get hurt. The higher he gets
up the roster, the less he's gonna be able to
do to these guys.

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
Because you got guys like previously, he's wrestling guys like
Pinta and Gable and these guys who were just like I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
Happy to be here and they're taking you know, they're
right car Yeah, yeah exactly. Now you got them doing
them on guys like Sammy and see him pump and
it's like those guys are like, nah, I'm not doing that, brother,
That's not gonna work for me. Brother, You're gonna get
a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
I think just guys who aren't aren't willing to get
injured as much because you gotta imagine those things actually hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
You can't run that fast and have it not hurt
and possibly injure you. I'm surprised to have him been
more injuries due to Brown Breaker. If if Sammy's actually injured,
it makes me wonder if it has something to do
with all the spears he's been taking from bron Breaker recently.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Really, you think that's legit by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
The injured, I don't know. I think I think a
lot of it might be more of like you can't
miss me if I'm not gone, They're gonna push him
at the He's gonna win.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
The rumble rights.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Fuck no, I hope not, come on now, No trick
Williams no oba femi, No I mean awful.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
It's it's it's in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
And they bring back Mohammad as sank I'd rather see
him than Sammy's.

Speaker 6 (01:41:58):
Ay.

Speaker 5 (01:42:00):
They've been talking like his story arc right now is
that he's never won the title. He needs to win
the title.

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Everyone talking about the title he's winning, that it's gonna
be him in SATH main event WrestleMania, watch ew Market,
mark it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Down, don't don't don't ask me to do the show
that day. If it's SAS and fucking Sammy's Ain at WrestleMania,
I'm calling off that day is what's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (01:42:27):
And then the big, the big reveal after WrestleMania is
gonna be bron Breaker going on his own without you know,
with Paul Hayman. That's what this is leading to, and
I'm glad they finally just kind of said it last night,
where like every time bron brager Go was on TV,
Paul Hayman was with him, and bron Breaker talked three
times last night, which I think is more than.

Speaker 5 (01:42:46):
He's talked ever in the history of thought. Three times
last night, clearly, and they even he flat out set,
He flat out set when they.

Speaker 4 (01:42:57):
Brought me into this group. They told me that this
group was being built to make me a staw, to
make me the biggest star in w w E. And
uh yeah, that's why I that is, that is facts,
that's what That's the endgame here is bron Breaker. This
whole thing is about bron Breaker has nothing to do
with Seth and Bronson reed, It's it's all about getting

(01:43:20):
bron Breaker to the point where he's just because and
you have to I'm sorry, I think you have to
put him in some kind of stable or something, because
if you don't, the crowd's going to get so much
behind him that you don't have a choice but to
do it. This is their way of saying, we need longer,
We need more time to get him to where he
needs to be, you know, because there have been so
many guys who have gotten that big and then just.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
What it become.

Speaker 5 (01:43:45):
Ride Back, you know, right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
People forget how over ride Back was right over for
four weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
You yeah, until people realized what he was because they
pushed him two beds, right, And that's what would happen
to bron Breaker if you just let him win the
titles and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Right now, A hit these super chats.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Let's go one A the con hollered con five dollars awful.
You need little people wrestling to give you a laugh?
Isn't the young bucks enough at the doodle do? Am
I not supposed to read that part? Am I just
supposed to do this?

Speaker 5 (01:44:29):
There we go?

Speaker 8 (01:44:30):
I did it?

Speaker 5 (01:44:31):
Thank you? One awful? Are the little are the Little
Bucks and mouth is that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
We're That would be an awesome little thing. I mean,
the problem is is that the Young Bucks would actually
cringe it up somewhat and they here's the thing that
the Young Bucks do that is just terrible for business.
They always break the fourth wall. So like if they
were to actually have legitimate midgets coming down the aisle

(01:44:58):
with them, they would scream from the rooftops or guys,
we've got midgets. They're midgets, they're little people. They would
just run the joke into the ground like a Family
Guy episode, And yeah, that's terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:45:15):
Yeah. Do you think it's a coincidence that the Young
Bucks always leave for like three or four months and
then come back right in time for a big pay
per view, Like, is that that's that's the thing, right,
They're doing that on purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Yeah? I think I think this is gossip. This is
just nothing but speculation. But I think the Young Bucks
were kind of offended when Tony Kahan took that boat
trip out to wherever the hell it was, cans Or
Khan and he said on record, like I run this

(01:45:47):
I run this show. It's me, it's my creative endeavors
and all that and it. It just might be true,
but the Young Bucks would like the aw fans to realize,
like or they would like them to believe that the
Young Bucks have some sort of like power in the company.
But it's obviously not true because they're going to put
them up on the line at all In against Swerve

(01:46:09):
and will Osprey the EVP titles versus what was it
You can't wrestle for the championship for an entire year?
Oh what a stipulation that's gonna be brought in? No tickets?

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
Well Osprey, man, he okay, this is this is the
start of him finishing his story, right, that's what that's
the story arc we're on. Like the day after all In,
they're gonna start building to him winning the title all
in next year, right because they're back.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
No, they're going to try to get him a championship,
Matt all out because I think I don't think they've
got any plans for all out.

Speaker 5 (01:46:47):
That's what I think Darby's for it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
That's why I think Darby's Darby Layton for all out,
get it all out, Darby, he goes all out.

Speaker 5 (01:46:54):
You see, It's cute.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Yeah, No, I think all In.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
I think the idea is that Will is going to
be I mean, we get I see a meltzer, he
writes it, so we could maybe you can tweet.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
Oh I can't tweet him because he blocked me. But
you hey, you know what, Let's let's post your super
jobs real quick, because we never really got to talk
about this when it happened. Let's see here, I need
to pull this one down. Where is it?

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
We got a far super chat.

Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
Regina Sharp? Where did that one? We get another one?

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
I'm sorry we did another one.

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
We did get another one, Regina Shark. For fifty dollars,
Triple h stop making my sweet Sammy Popper feel bad.
Oh oh, we are making a feel of that. Well,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
All I do is we we we no matter what money?
Oh my mind, everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:47:49):
They stayed there.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
Thank you so much for the fifty dollars. Yeah, Triple
Ah loves his Sammy. I just I want to see
the clip of Triple Ah like cradling Sammy in his
arms and rubbing his hair and saying it'll be okay,
rubbing his beard through this. Sammy, Me and you were
best friends. But thank you again, Regina Sharp. I can't

(01:48:17):
thank you enough for what you are donating to us tonight,
but we do I didn't do. I don't have a
full Meltzer segment, but I do have a little Meltzer.
I have a little Meltzer because it's.

Speaker 5 (01:48:28):
A little meltzer.

Speaker 4 (01:48:29):
We didn't get to talk a whole lot about the
what happened to night of Champions, and we didn't get
to talk about see him punk apologizing, but Meltzer passed.

Speaker 5 (01:48:39):
So let's hear what Dave Meltzer had to say.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
About it in you know, in w about the whole thing.

Speaker 10 (01:48:45):
And you know, obviously it was not this impromptu thing
where all of a sudden somebody had to know where
asked him a question and he just thinks to react
and apologize and and then and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
I mean, it was like he was going there.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
You think you think Dave, You think you think maybe
did Do you think Dave is really proud of himself
that he can dude, he.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Blew the lid off of this story.

Speaker 5 (01:49:11):
Well, I mean, of course it wasn't real. I mean,
of course, yeah, yeah, because one WW cares about optics,
so of course it was fake. Of course it was.
I wouldn't doubt if the kid was fake the whole
thing was fake because Westling is fake. Wrestling is always fake.
That's what you should always think. Think everything is fake.

(01:49:32):
This show is fake. Everything in wrestling is fake. Okay,
just it's wrestling, that's what it is. But uh, they
blew it off this He got a home run with
the story.

Speaker 10 (01:49:42):
You apologize everyone. Saudi Arabia, t k O, Sampunk, They're
all on board and this is.

Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
Just what we gotta do, the country of Saudi Arabia
is on board.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
Kingdom Bro, Kingdom.

Speaker 5 (01:49:59):
The Kingdom Saudi Arabia is on board. He said. He said,
everyone's on board. Oh, Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
It was point number two that I'm sure CM punk
had to address night and Night in Chicago two years ago,
Like before you sign anything, Bro, you know you're going
to Saudi right, Yeah, I mean that's all there is.

Speaker 4 (01:50:27):
Yeah, And and see him Punk. I think I think
what he said is exactly true. I don't think M
Punk thinks about this stuff for five minutes. I think
he woke up and he was like he saw a
way that he could dunk on mins and decided to
dunk on mis because M Punk hated the mid And
I think it was more about that, but even I mean,

(01:50:47):
who cares like the whole thing the day before remember
kid Gate, remember that the whole thing. Yeah, first off,
he didn't shove him, Okay, really didn't show him. And
if a kid runs up to you with a phone
in his hand and you're surrounded by security, you're not

(01:51:08):
gonna that's what you do.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
You're gonna you answer that ship.

Speaker 5 (01:51:11):
Yeah it's mine.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Yeah, get your own monog you just gave this.

Speaker 4 (01:51:23):
No, it's stupid. It was so stupid and it got
blown out of a portion. But the funniest part was
that there's one guy on Action. I'm not gonna say
his name because honestly, I don't even know his name,
but he was the one who made this big tweet
about it and made it blow up, and I posted
honestly here. But you know who his profile picture was,
m j F. M JF was his profile picture, sir. Now,

(01:51:47):
how can you have a big problem with what's him
punk did and have m j F as your profile
I'm sure you know what I'm referring to, right awful.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Connection that it was my nest.

Speaker 5 (01:52:00):
Okay, his connection with the.

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
MJF dumped liquor on a kid and never apologized publicly.
See him Punk put his hand out and said not
now to a kid, and then the next day he
took he made a big thing about it at a
press conference, and then he did again on the show.
But never heard never never heard one person who was
complaining about the first incident say, Okay, well you know what,

(01:52:27):
he made it up to me. That's cool now. He
at least made it right, see, because MJF never made
it right. He never came out and said that he
was sorry. He said when he and he got asked
about it. His his famous phrase was he looked thirst
or kid looked thirst. Right, great shill line, by the way,
I still think that's a great heel line. Okay, but

(01:52:48):
you can't be okay with that and not okay with
what Sehim Punk did.

Speaker 5 (01:52:51):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
You can't do it because you're talking about how you're
treating children, and you can't be well, it's okay to
be mean to children's kay to dump liquor on children,
on children because he's a heel. But seeing Punk can't
put his arm out to a kid because he's a
face like well, first off, he did. I don't think
seam Punk was one hundred percent sure he was going
to be playing a face in Saudi Arabia, and the

(01:53:13):
way the Masters booked, I don't think every of you
was a un percent sure he was going to be
playing a face.

Speaker 5 (01:53:18):
But anyway, I digress. Let's hear, let's hear. Who.

Speaker 10 (01:53:22):
Yeah, I mean that you could argue that maybe they
shouldn't have done it, maybe you know, it makes him
look bad by doing it. They thought it makes him
look good. They thought that that was the right thing
to do. This is just what people do when it
comes to business, you know. And it's just like, you know,
you cannot like it, you know what I mean, you
can have the moral thing, you know, It's like I'll
sit there and do the moral thing, and it's like

(01:53:44):
everyone's doing we know, boxing is even more.

Speaker 5 (01:53:47):
What's the moral thing? Because to me, the moral thing
seems like apologizing. That seems like the moral thing.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Yeah, what's the moral thing? Holding on to your principles?
Is I guess the idea that Punk is going against
his principles that he had thirteen years ago. It's somehow
a bad thing like no one can grow, no one
can gain a new perspective, no one can understand or
consider other people's religious freedom or lack their roof. But

(01:54:18):
but but the bottom line is is that cmpunk apologize
moving on. But this guy's got to make it a
whole you know, think piece good. And he didn't block me,
by the way.

Speaker 5 (01:54:32):
Yeah, he blocked me. He blocked me. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
He blocked me when I had like one hundred and
twenty followers because he was going off about a w
B and racist because that's what he always talked about.
At that point, and I said, why hasn't any black
man besides butchery or why is it that it took
twenty five years to give a.

Speaker 5 (01:54:50):
Black man five stars besides butchery? And then he blocked me.
I thought I thought I was a per I thought
it was a good question because I like, you know
a little piece of trivia, do you want to do?
You know who? The next black man that he gave
five star match to was No. One velveteen dree.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Okay awesome. So by the way, uh, he.

Speaker 5 (01:55:22):
Said that he was holding wrestling hostage. Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
I didn't. So he's got he's got wrestling in the basement.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
He said that, like, if you don't let me back
into wrestling, I'm going to reveal all the bad things
about your favorite wrestlings, and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
So didn't Man Mountain Rocks say he was going to
do some expose on like the wrestling industry. That footage
never came out either.

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
How many times I do want to watch that trailer?
How many times did you watch that?

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Many times? Many times only to be only to be
only to be sourly disappointed all the way up till today.
But get get Yeah, I still want it. Great wrestler,
by the way, But let's also talk about MJG and
his forgotten super chats.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
We got a lot? Uh, he didn't did he give
Did he give a I always the rules are I'm
supposed to stop for fifty and he did not donate.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
Okay, gotcha, Sorry, I'm sorry, that's not my rules.

Speaker 5 (01:56:21):
Take it up with Marv. Okay, anything you don't like tonight, take.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
It up with Marvel, Taking up with Mark or keV?

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
Yeah, keV, you can take it up with him too. Hey,
you should be here any minute. Okay, let's move on.

Speaker 10 (01:56:35):
Worn bed than w W. It's like when John Sena
had to apologize about saying Taiwan was a country. It's
like to me, you know, like on the outside of
going like Taiwan is a country, you know, but they're
talking about does.

Speaker 5 (01:56:50):
He not pay attention to anything?

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Seriously, man's a dummy. Want is a country.

Speaker 5 (01:56:59):
I'll see the like, dude, but you know.

Speaker 10 (01:57:04):
His film is maybe not being allowed in China or whatever.
He had no choice if you wanted see him punk
to be Kurt Flood.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Okay, he's not. He's not.

Speaker 10 (01:57:16):
He doesn't and he doesn't want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
And he's making a lot, a lot, a lot of
Kurt Flood. Please help me, I got I don't know who.

Speaker 4 (01:57:26):
Dropping dropping names like Kirk. I'm sure someone or a
chat will explain who Kurt Flood was.

Speaker 5 (01:57:31):
Someone can do that. He only have super chat.

Speaker 10 (01:57:33):
I'll read it on it money, and I understand from
his perspective. At the same time, I thought it made
him look bad in the sense of people saying like,
look at that hypocrite, and they could have quelled it
and just had him not It.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Looked so bad. It looked so bad. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:57:53):
Nobody likes see him punk anymore except the entire stadium
in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 11 (01:57:57):
That was sure, yeah, because no one remembers this stuff.
No one remembers it because everyone moves on. Hey, hey, hey, awful,
you know what. I'm done with this. I'm sorry, I
can't do David, We'll get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
Dave, awful, beat it, old man, awful.

Speaker 5 (01:58:15):
No, MJ. I'm sorry. It has to be all it wants. Dude,
I'll get there. Don't worry. We're almost there. We're almost there.
It'll be Kurt Flood. It'll be player. Kurt Flood refused
to be traded to a team. There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:58:26):
He didn't want to be traded to a team. He
fought for free agency rights in baseball. Thank you very much. Chat,
we will get there. J stop crying. Okay, I'm done.
I'm done with it. Yeah, the crowd, everyone forgets everything.

Speaker 5 (01:58:40):
Awful. I have a question, what what what's everyone saying
about our truth? Remember that? Remember that was the most
important two weeks ago, when everyone was saying.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Now, you know, you want to know why I got
a theory racism alert, It's because our truth. It's starting
to look like that dude in the inner city that
you don't like. Okay, he's not affable, he's starting to
look like he's starting to look like a guy robbed

(01:59:10):
it twelve years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:59:11):
You know what I mean. Okay, let's let's let's say
if he looks like a.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
Guy that stands outside the gas station and asks you
for two bucks every time you see him, if it
was true.

Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
If the whole thing with Truth was true, it wasn't
a storyline, right, which is just it might be true
if that's true. Okay, maybe WWEE goes, Wow, you want
to be what you want to be Ron Kellys and
you want to shave your head and you want to
be a serious character.

Speaker 5 (01:59:44):
Oh, I mean you can.

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
We'll pay you one hundred grand a year for you
to do that, right. And then Our Truth went on
Twitter and said he's leaving or said they're not resigning him.
Maybe this is the reason that they weren't interested in
resigning Archer. They didn't want to pay him the same
amount of money. Maybe it's because Our Truth wanted to
be this and ww knew that this is not what

(02:00:06):
the fans want to see. And now we're right now
that ww was correct that this is not what the
fans want to see. This kind of gimmick worked in
two thousand and two.

Speaker 5 (02:00:15):
In two thousand and three, when he was in TNA,
and the reason it worked was because our Truth was
in his mid late twenties.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
Back then, he was young, in mid thirties.

Speaker 5 (02:00:25):
Yeah, he was a young man and he.

Speaker 4 (02:00:27):
Was in he was full of pisson vinegar, and he
had been held down, and he had a purpose and
he had reason, and it felt real. It does not
feel real anymore. We're looking at a fifty two to
fifty four year old man who is trying to get
a rap career going, who is not the Yes, our

(02:00:49):
Truth is in fantastic shape for his age, and yes
he is a great athlete, But you're not the same
person when you're fifty two or fifty four that you
were when you were twenty five or thirty. You just aren't,
and you can't perform that way. And to do this
kind of gimmick, you have to be able to perform
at that level. And Our Truth can no longer perform
at that level. So when you have him going out

(02:01:09):
there and he can, he does the same I mean,
he's doing the same moves he did when he was
a face. He's doing like a face the other character
because he's still a face, I guess, but it's like
it's just I think our Truth has other things that
he wants to do, and I think that maybe it
was time to just let him go because the IWC

(02:01:29):
does not care anymore.

Speaker 5 (02:01:31):
The crowd does not care anymore. They have moved on.
This clearly wasn't his. And on top of that, if
you want to get mad at WWE, if you're not
using him, this is a guy that apparently they were
getting ready to cut. So clearly they didn't have long
term plans for him.

Speaker 4 (02:01:44):
So now they're gonna find something else to do with it, right,
So what it's It's such a weird situation. But people
act like something's the most important thing in the world
one week and then they stop caring about it the next.
And it happened with See Him Punk, it happened with
our Truth This week, it's evolution. Next week, it'll be
something else. It's always it's it's the news cycle. That's
the way all of this stuff works. And any questions.

Speaker 2 (02:02:10):
His swan song should have been that Saturday night's main
event where he dressed up like yeah, and that should
have been it. It really should have been it. When
we saw him cut his hair, it was just like,
all right, now, what's gonna happen? He turned a heel
on us, and he didn't turn a heel, you know
what I mean, Like he just he muted himself We're

(02:02:32):
all black, and didn't do too much.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
It seems like the sequel everyone thought they wanted, but
it turns out no one did, you know, Like that's
kind of what it feels like to me. It was
always nice to talk about and say, hey, would be
cool if Our Truth went back to being you know,
on the Truth Killings and he was like a badass
again and he was you know, you always it's fun
to talk about.

Speaker 5 (02:02:52):
But then it happens, and.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
You know, they should test these things out on their
video games, like put Ron Killings on the two twenty
twenty five game. Let's create a character with with what
he wants. See see how over that gets with the
crowd on the video game. And if it don't get
over on the with the crowd, don't put it on
real TV.

Speaker 5 (02:03:14):
Yeah. It's just it's just it just doesn't work. And
I love Our Truth. I love Ron Killings. I think
you know, it's just like it also it feels corny, right,
Like it feels corny like that that that that what's
up remix that he did the hard what's up? That's
like Will Smith coming back and doing gangster rapp, Right,

(02:03:36):
that's what that feels like to me.

Speaker 2 (02:03:37):
That's exactly what Will Smith did. Actually, I know, I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:03:40):
That's what I mean. That's I'm using that as an example.
That's what it felt like.

Speaker 4 (02:03:43):
It felt like the same thing where Will Smith comes
back and he's trying to be hard, and it's like, dude,
your handcock, stop pretending like you're you know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
Ice cube, Like, oh on, Will Smith got bodies? You
got bodies?

Speaker 6 (02:03:55):
Dog?

Speaker 5 (02:03:56):
Okay, but that's all girls. I like girls, girls, girls, girls.

Speaker 2 (02:04:01):
See here, that's all Yeah. I did.

Speaker 5 (02:04:03):
Yeah, if you speed it up or slow it down,
it works, but not the way it is anyway, back
to super Jests.

Speaker 4 (02:04:09):
The worst time in wrestling for me was the early
nineties when the Ultimate Warrior was worrying Warrior ing and
the WWF Women's division was falling apart.

Speaker 5 (02:04:20):
I didn't, I'll take it. I mean I stopped when
when Ultimate Warrior. Okay, I'll tell you a story. Ultimate Wars.

Speaker 4 (02:04:26):
WrestleMania six was my first WrestleMania, and I was the
biggest hulkamaniac. You know, I'm a little little little diss
in my whole Camania shirt and having my wrestling buddy
and my foam finger out there.

Speaker 5 (02:04:38):
And my brother is eleven years older than me, and
he invited his friends from high school and they were
all warrior obviously right, And the whole time.

Speaker 12 (02:04:48):
They're like, Hoga's Hokovian is not gonna win. Hokovian is
not gonna beat the Ultimate Wrior. He's not gonna beat
the Ultimate Warrior. And I'm like, yes he is, he's
gonna beat. He's gonna hook up and feed him. You
know what you're talking about, you but stupid guys. And
then he didn't win, and then they laughed at me,
and then I got on my bike. I rode around
the cull to Sack for two hours, crying because I
didn't want his cool high school friends to see me cry.

(02:05:12):
And then I started watching WW exclusively for a little
while or WWW, and I lost that exile.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
While people need to understand, like my upbringing on professional
wrestling went a little bit like this. I would turn
on the channel maybe you know whatever it was back
in the day, thirteen or twelve or eleven, and then
my grandmother or my uncle come into the room and
be like, the hell you watching?

Speaker 5 (02:05:42):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
I turned that sht off? You understand, that's your fake.
I had to, like, you know, have a television in
my bedroom so I can watch Super So I was
a wrestling because Grandma Maddie was not having it okay,
and neither was anybody else family. I am still to
this day the only professional wrestling fan in my family.

(02:06:08):
No one else can stand it.

Speaker 4 (02:06:10):
So my my dad watched wrestling at the Chase. That's
the only wrestling he was ever exposed to. My brother
was big in the World Class. Uh, because in St.

Speaker 5 (02:06:22):
St. Louis was a weird place. We got world Class,
we got Memphis.

Speaker 4 (02:06:26):
We got n w A, and we got ww AP,
so we got you know, we got a good amount
of amount of wrestling to watch and you know, the
local state list stuff. Besides, because wrestling the Chase was
done by like eighty two or eighty three and my
but my dad was a big wrestling the Chase fan.

Speaker 5 (02:06:42):
So every time I watched wrestling, he would come in
and he'd be like, there a whole of ten the
parent botton rowski, you know, where's the brooms are?

Speaker 3 (02:06:54):
Like that?

Speaker 5 (02:06:54):
You know where's yeah, and like.

Speaker 4 (02:06:57):
Well, there was one tape at my at my little
cool video shop that was like super Class Wrestling's Classic
Superstars or something, and it had a Dick the Bruiser
match and it hardly you know, it had all those
matches on it. And my and whenever I rented wrestling
tapes and my dad was with me, he'd make me
rent that one and he'd watch it. Well, and like,
I'm wanting to watch you know, Hull Coogan and fight

(02:07:18):
Randy Savage, and He's making me watch Dick the Bruiser,
h Bulldog, Bob Brown, and I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:07:25):
The names, and I'm just like, Okay, this is good,
I guess, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:07:32):
Then my brother, on the other hand, is making me
watch World Class and I kind of dug World Class
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (02:07:38):
But so I had that.

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
But like, they didn't like the wrestling I watched. They
liked other wrestling. So the wrestling that I watched was
BS and there wrestling was good. My brother played into
it a little bit because he thought it was fun
to make fun of me and make him cry.

Speaker 5 (02:07:53):
So that's the only reason. But I did get. I
got do you remember who? My first paper year ever
got was No Holds Barred the match the movie do
you remember that?

Speaker 2 (02:08:05):
Oh my god, you were you watched wrestling at some
of the worst, Like that was one of the worst
periods in wrestling.

Speaker 5 (02:08:15):
Oh you're.

Speaker 4 (02:08:17):
Man, I got to see it was it was hul
Cogan and produced the barber reefcake and a steel cage
with sous and macho man ready savage and the whole time.

Speaker 5 (02:08:25):
I still have it on VHS. I did play it
on VHS.

Speaker 4 (02:08:28):
And in the middle of No Holds Barred, you'll get
thirty seconds of scrambled porn because when I was like thirteen,
I tried to see, hey, if I tape the scrambled
porn channel, will it come in clearly?

Speaker 5 (02:08:39):
And it didn't work.

Speaker 4 (02:08:40):
But there's still like five seconds of scrabbled porn in
the middle of it. It's right when right when his
brother breaks his neck, that's when I have to scrabbled
porn pop up. But I have that tape still, And
the cool thing about it is the entire time, every
time it goes to mean Gene, Mean Gene is going.

Speaker 5 (02:08:57):
Everyone needs to call their cable providers because you might
not be the Royal Rumble. You might not be getting
Survivor series anymore.

Speaker 4 (02:09:04):
And it was all because of all the counter programming
that was going on with Crocket at the time, where
some it's like some places would pick w w F
in some place to Crocket.

Speaker 5 (02:09:12):
And that was the deal. So you call your local
Camble writer and let them know that you want the
w w F action on your pay per views.

Speaker 4 (02:09:22):
So yeah, the entire time you just talking about that.
But yeah, that's that was that's a that that's a
big memory for me. But yeah, that you know, so
I I enjoyed that time period. But it's also because
I was six.

Speaker 5 (02:09:35):
You know, what are you? What are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (02:09:36):
You're six seven years old. It's the coolest thing in
the world. And and you know, Hogan was in Rocky.
That's really all that mattered to me.

Speaker 5 (02:09:42):
Uh, we got Christopher for five dollars to put down
the myth of a w having the best matches. They're
over overbooked, cluster moms. Yeah, uh any fight, afful We're
gonna fight that. You're gonna fight back on that.

Speaker 2 (02:09:57):
Nope, it's always I mean again, sometimes they strike, you know,
strike lightning in a bottle, But on the whole, every
match looks like the last match that you saw.

Speaker 5 (02:10:09):
So yeah, that like it. It goes back to the
thing if everything's special, nothing special. Chef Betty with two
dollars will ricochet headlight all in no MJG. Headlight.

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
You'll hear about this later. My friend, who's he fighting?

Speaker 5 (02:10:31):
Who's ORIGINAID fighting at all?

Speaker 2 (02:10:33):
I'm not really sure. Great question, Jeff Eddie. If you
have the answer, you can just show it up there
because I have no clue out there.

Speaker 5 (02:10:40):
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (02:10:40):
We're gonna go to MJG. This is the MJG segment
of Tony Talk Wrestling with nineteen ninety nine isn't an
obvious swerve and Osprey lose, Moxley retains. The new grand
prize of AW is something called the unified title that
Okata and Omega are fighting over. The promotion ever demoted

(02:11:01):
its world title innovative hmm has a promotions promotion. Yeah,
I mean that's kind of what WW did when they
brought in the undisputed title.

Speaker 2 (02:11:11):
Right, Yeah, So, I mean remember w c W did
that ship for for a little bit too, Like they
have the what it was it it was the World
Heavyweight Championship and then it was like it was like
W Championship when Rick Clair.

Speaker 5 (02:11:29):
Took the title the w W Right, okay, that that
was the time because Rick Rude was the end, was
not the NWA champion, he was the whatever that title
was called. And then they have the other one and
then I mean TNA kind of did it for a
while whenever, whenever Destination X would come up, suddenly the
world title would be the secondary title and the ex
division title would be the main title. So I mean,

(02:11:52):
there's there's precedent. This actually makes a lot of sense
to me. Maybe don't even like if you don't have well,
I don't know if there's someone the screwy that happens
in the main event, just say, Moxley, fine golf, take
that belt somewhere else. We have this one and this
is the important time. It's dumb, but at least it's something.

(02:12:13):
It's something like i'd brother's something than nothing, you know,
But hey, guess what more, MJG.

Speaker 2 (02:12:19):
What I need?

Speaker 5 (02:12:22):
I wanted the.

Speaker 4 (02:12:22):
Super chat sorry, power of the one nine nine. I
wanted the super chat in Immaradi didn't work there sall right?
Didn't pronounce that right, Immurati, you.

Speaker 2 (02:12:32):
Got it right, slam.

Speaker 8 (02:12:37):
M JG.

Speaker 5 (02:12:38):
In nineteen ninety nine, the biggest week of the year
at AW already preempted its own show to avoid saturday
's main event. M j up contradicting the boss to
the press and they care so much about monet creative
control jokes.

Speaker 4 (02:12:50):
Somebody wasted time on that as a question. So, yeah,
did you did you see that thing where m j
up said that they, you know, the top guys do
have creative control and then uh, you know, Tony went out,
He's like, we don't have nobody as creative control.

Speaker 2 (02:13:07):
Yeah, what you say, This is why you have meetings.
This is why you have media meetings with bullet points.
Tody is so feckless. It's it's it's it's hilarious.

Speaker 5 (02:13:20):
Yeah, we get it would be funny. We got to
pick youre right now and I had to interrupt mj.

Speaker 2 (02:13:28):
He'll be the one giving the fifty dollars God Demonstra
churcher m j G.

Speaker 5 (02:13:32):
Before any time, SICKO files confirm AW is for freak
ten geeks. Imagine crashing the AW sponsored after party where
where they'll be airing saturday Nights main event.

Speaker 2 (02:13:43):
Ooh, that is very very interesting, Like you're trying to
party with Swerves, Trickling and Mortis. You see Cody Rhos on.

Speaker 5 (02:13:58):
Your television story, but to destroyed Mortis destroyed him. Look, people,
I think people took my in my line about him
being intimidating to me that I actually like was intimidated
by him. And that's what I admit.

Speaker 4 (02:14:13):
That he's the only guy that looks like he's one
of the only guys in aw It looks like a wrestler.
And what do you do with We have him doing
TikTok dances with Mercedes Monet.

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
And you know he's hoping to god that they don't
go viral. Oh yeah, all right, I'll do it for
the pussy, but hopefully it won't, you know, hopefully this
won't go nowhere?

Speaker 4 (02:14:34):
Uh MJG with nine if we had the super chech goal,
who finishes who? Or is that over on JD from
New York show, Okay, I'm out, I better move up
to ranking. Yeah, they rank our chatters now and the
on on YouTube. I don't know if you saw that,
but people get a crowd, yeah, and the crazy did
you know?

Speaker 5 (02:14:53):
Awful? I have it on good authority that JD from
New York steals things from people. Did you know that,
are you? Yes? Yes? I love when people bring it up.
Everyone swilled. Somebody's like, oh man, did you see JD
stole this? I'm like, yeah, that's what he does. That's
all he done is he's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:15:10):
He's seen that. See I wish I had I wish
I had the evidence because every so oftenen like, I
see the evidence and I care for about fifteen twenty
seconds and then I just don't care. And it's just
like that motherfucker, that little midget blocked me, that smurf
blocked me. And then like every three months he'll take

(02:15:30):
one of my tweets, he will take one of my
tweets and it is sickening.

Speaker 4 (02:15:36):
Yeah, he stole my idea for a show blatantly. And
then I even talked to him about it, and I
was like, dude, it's cool. Let's just share data here,
you know, like I got I got hundreds of responses
in mind, you got hundreds of responses in yours. Let's
just it's no big deal.

Speaker 6 (02:15:51):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:15:51):
I go. But I said, I said something like, it'd
be cool if you'd be called it out on your
show or something. That'd be cool.

Speaker 4 (02:15:57):
But you know, it's not a big deal. Let's just
share the data. And he was like, I can steal
right always. You've always told me to stealing, steal nothing.

Speaker 5 (02:16:05):
So I just blocked him. I was like, I'm not
dealing with that crap. But he does. He steals from
Mole a lot too, and then he'll see something Mole
posted and then he'll act like he knew it that
he has when he's just reading off Mole's account.

Speaker 3 (02:16:18):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:16:19):
A lot of people doing that recently.

Speaker 2 (02:16:21):
Actually, what do you guys think should we be should
we have our mouths into the microphone? Like JD doesn't scream,
hoot and holler, we can like two and a half
a two and a half hours.

Speaker 5 (02:16:33):
I you know, it's it seems a lot of times
when we talk, we get lunked in with JD a lot,
and I'm not I'm not a big fan of being
lumped in with JD. I understand to a lot of
people were just you know, guys on a podcast, and
that's cool, and I'm happy if you listen to us
and listen to him and you get enjoyment out of both.

Speaker 2 (02:16:55):
Love that, but personally, and let's Fay said, man, he's
been doing this for a long time. He doesn't the
gift of gab. I'm sure if we've been doing it
for ten goddamn years, we we we First off, we
wouldn't say we we we, you know what I mean,
we wouldn't be stuttering bastards. So, you know, kudos to

(02:17:16):
him and all of them. That's this is the biggest
thing that I do want to mention, Like, we don't
have a fucking problem with any of these podcasts, podcast
networks or anything like that. Thank for some stupid reason
they have a problem with us.

Speaker 4 (02:17:30):
Yeah, I mean, I I there are ones that I'm
definitely not a fan of, and but like the main
one problem with it, like Meltzer, you know, like, but
that's everyone has a problem with Meltzer. I mean, there's
a few out there that I'm not that. I think
the guys that like do the Discord stuff, I'm not
a big fan of. I'll say, right, you know what

(02:17:51):
I'm talking about, the guys who you know, make up
fake stories and try to sell them on Discord.

Speaker 5 (02:17:56):
Not a fan of that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:57):
Yeah, shout out Eyeboo and x Ao or whatever the
fuck they damn right, because I'm direct.

Speaker 5 (02:18:04):
But it's not a big not a big fan of that.
I'm alsto not a big fan of any of them
that get involved in like the Hey, let's let's post
somebody's picture on the internet. Let's yeah, the reveal people's
last names, and you know, aha, you have as outside
of the internet.

Speaker 6 (02:18:20):
Ha ha.

Speaker 5 (02:18:21):
I showed them like, come on, dude, you're being silly.

Speaker 2 (02:18:24):
I kill meat twenty seconds. This just twenty seconds because
I got something to say. I just need twenty seconds.
Probably wasted five seconds just sitting up.

Speaker 5 (02:18:34):
How how would we close the show with it so
that a bar passed to edit it out. It'll be
very easy, is that? Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:18:40):
Okay, fine, I wasn't gonna mention the names. But how
about this, gentleman, how about this?

Speaker 5 (02:18:46):
You're go ahead listen.

Speaker 2 (02:18:49):
To docs. Anybody is the dumbest thing in the world.
All it means, all it symbolizes is that you got touched. Okay,
you got affected by whatever words were on that computer screen.
You got affected by zeros and ones. Motherfucker, And now
you want to try to ruin somebody's life because this

(02:19:14):
happened so many years ago and now you're a part
of it. Give me a fucking break, Okay, that's all
I got to say. I'm gonna want to censor myself,
but that's all I got to say.

Speaker 4 (02:19:26):
We like to tell jokes on the internet, and that's
all we want to do. And it shouldn't our opinion
should not affect you one way or another. And anytime
I get worked up about this stuff, there's a really
cool thing that I can do, and it's put my
phone down. Yeah, then it's over and then it's gone
and it doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:19:45):
And I we got to hear it five hours later
in the backchat, but go on, no, yeah, yeah, true.

Speaker 5 (02:19:50):
But I'm saying, if you can't put your phone down
and have it not affect you anymore, then that's that's
a problem. Need to reassess what's going.

Speaker 2 (02:20:01):
On, you know, and give it time, folks. You'll know
my name, first name, and last name in due time.
If I win this bet or lose this bet, I'll
blow it all up because at that point it's just like, okay,
what's the point. You know, I lost the bet or
I won the bet, my name will either be on
the book or it will be you know, hey, remember

(02:20:24):
that guy, Well this is a real name. But yeah, ultimately,
ultimately let me.

Speaker 4 (02:20:29):
It sounds like you're saying you're gonna box me or
I'm gonna win. That's not what we're saying. He's saying
that either he's gonna make a book or he's not.
And when he releases the book, his name's on there.
My name's on there, and there's probably a few more
names that are going to be on there.

Speaker 2 (02:20:41):
Right So, but you know, please save your breath, save
your time, save your energy. No one, I know, nobody
in this chat cares what our real names are. Ultimately,
they like the entertainment that we provide for them. I
started this thing out with zero followers. I've got fifteen thousand.

(02:21:05):
I can tell you right now, I'm as humble as
fucking can be. Do you know how many people send
me information about these trolls And I look at them
and I go hmm, interesting, and I put it away.
You will never see me trying to attempt to dox anybody.
You will see this do it. You will see Bed,
you won't see Mark, you'll see keV, you won't see

(02:21:26):
any of these guys do it. But you think it's
your life's fucking work to act like some sort of
FBI agent and to get in somebody's real life issues.
And over what because we don't like AEW or because
we don't like WWE or whatever, the hell, go fuck yourself.

Speaker 5 (02:21:44):
Let's be fair. It's on We're we're not picking sides here.
We are the people who came out for somebody who
you know was on the quote unquote other side because
they were getting docs. It doesn't matter what side. It's stupid,
it's retarded because oh.

Speaker 4 (02:22:02):
It doesn't do anything but give people anxiety and make
them feel weird. And it just shouldn't be done on
either side. So if anybody, if you see WWE fans
doing it, if you see AW fans doing it, if
you see the three New Japan fans doing it, if
you if you see anybody out there doing it, my
suggestion would be just fuck.

Speaker 5 (02:22:20):
I mean, you know, yeah, right.

Speaker 13 (02:22:22):
It's whether whether they be voice of people, whether they
be clown sellers, whether it doesn't matter who they are,
you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 2 (02:22:33):
I'm not interested in knowing who real one is. I'm
not interested in knowing who Sean Ross sap is or
or or Jason solomonster. So don't think that we're trying
to you know, like, give these people a bad name.
We don't care, all right, and maybe you shouldn't care either.

Speaker 6 (02:22:50):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:22:51):
And and also fuckers I've gotten along with lots of
people who like aw If you sit there and talk
to me, I'm fully.

Speaker 4 (02:23:00):
I don't judge you based on what wrestling you like
or anything like that. If you like a w no problem, good,
good for you. I'm glad that you can find enjoyment
out of it. I'm expressing my opinion on what I
think it needs to do to be better. And if
that makes you upset, then I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (02:23:15):
What can I do? I can't do anything about it,
but you want to.

Speaker 4 (02:23:19):
You know, I've posted my name on my own profile,
I've posted my picture. You're not nobody doxing me is
going to win any award or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (02:23:30):
You're just going to.

Speaker 4 (02:23:32):
Stir stuff up on the internet and get people to
try to call my house or call my sister or
something and bring in people that have nothing to do
with it.

Speaker 5 (02:23:39):
And it's dumb, so you know, whatever to do it,
I don't do it. Whatever. Our listeners, here's here's what
I know.

Speaker 4 (02:23:46):
We have created a fantastic community with Tony Talk wrestling,
and they will follow us for I'm sure they will
follow us wherever we go, whatever ends up happening in
the future, ten fifteen.

Speaker 5 (02:23:56):
Years agency but I'm saying, but I'm saying we will.

Speaker 4 (02:24:02):
These are people who actually like us, and they like
what we say, and we give each other ship on
the show because that's what we do, because we're all
friends here and we've created a community with each other,
and we have this and you know, a couple of
years from now, if we're if Tony Talk Wrestling is
a distant memory and whatever, we'll still be hanging out
and we'll still be doing podcasts and we'll still be
doing this stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:24:22):
We'll still be hanging out with you guys, and it'll
all be good.

Speaker 4 (02:24:24):
That's all we need. That's all we need is just
a community and a group behind us. And that's why
I love the Tony Talk followers.

Speaker 2 (02:24:34):
Okay, I don't know what I don't know what half
of you people do offline. I don't know who you
covort with. I don't care. And if you're interesting, I
will follow you. If you're not, I will not follow you.
If you follow me and I don't follow you, at
some point I will follow you and if.

Speaker 4 (02:24:53):
You I do want to give a message to our listeners.
By the way, if you see any of this about us,
don't defend us, just let it go.

Speaker 2 (02:25:01):
Please, Yes, don't defend this with you know what I mean,
Like I know, I know, we greatly appreciate the comments,
but all you're doing is going back and forth with
knuckleheads with water heads.

Speaker 4 (02:25:16):
Right, So if you see just so so in my suggestion,
if you see anything out there that makes you uncomfortable
or that you think you want to show us or
that we need to see, just hit block and then
it's over. Because when the because the beauty about the
Internet is when you hit block, they cease to exist.
And we make fun of Dave for blocking people, but

(02:25:37):
I'm I'm a big proponent of blocking people.

Speaker 5 (02:25:41):
Block people. Make your timeline what you need it to
be for your mental health. Do it.

Speaker 2 (02:25:46):
We don't call you cowards, we don't call you bitches
if you block us.

Speaker 5 (02:25:51):
No.

Speaker 4 (02:25:52):
The only reason that I give Dave Meltzer crap about
it is because he has made himself a public figure
in the sense that he and none of that. But
it's more about I'm not going to block somebody because
I don't want to converse with them, I will block
them if they don't want to converse with me. That's
what when I I will always first try to converse
and if they don't want to converse, they get blocked, right,

(02:26:14):
And that's that's that's the way. It's simple as yeah,
because I love my favorite My favorite posts are when
I'm able to find somebody who disagrees with me and
is willing to have a conversation about it, and then
we will go on for days on great conversations. And
I've gotten you know, I know you don't like him,
and a lot of people in our community to like,

(02:26:35):
don't like him, but Air Gold I'll say, well, I'll
say one thing.

Speaker 2 (02:26:38):
He doesn't follow. He's not bad. I see what he's
trying to do, but he's inoffensive. How about that?

Speaker 5 (02:26:46):
Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, we have I
have no problem.

Speaker 4 (02:26:49):
You know, there's there's plenty of people on the side
that I don't agree with, but I have no problem
with It's not about team sports.

Speaker 5 (02:26:55):
It's about just having fun on the internet. And if
you don't want to have fun on the internet, then
just just don't bother with me, don't listen to the show.
Don't I know, I went viral.

Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
I went viral last week with the hangman Adam page
clotheslining Marina is refere and above that video, I just
simply said in ae W, it's okay to hit women,
and everybody and their mother brought me old ten year

(02:27:27):
old WWE clips or old five year old clips, the
Vince era clips. Mind you to show me that? Of
course in WW they do it too, and all this
other nonsense. The joke goes right over your head. The
irony goes right like every like. There are a lot
of our tards on the Internet, so be very careful

(02:27:50):
when dealing with them. Understand who your enemy is.

Speaker 5 (02:27:54):
Yeah, and most of the time on the Internet, no
one should be your enemy. If you if, in my opinion,
if you are that deep into the Internet where you
consider a screen name your enemy, then you know, maybe
it's time just to take a step back, reassess things,
you know, because it's we're just screen names on nothing, nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:28:21):
Agreed.

Speaker 5 (02:28:23):
Nothing we say. We like we like to pretend that,
we like to pretend that, you know, we're more important
than we are. Nothing we say is going to change anything.
And we know that.

Speaker 4 (02:28:36):
Okay, I understand that nothing that I say means anything
in the long run. I'm just telling jokes and pointing
out pointing out things to people who are interested in
my thoughts.

Speaker 5 (02:28:46):
If you're not interested in my thoughts, block, I don't
care I have. I'm not. I'm not even up to
like five thousand followers yet. Honestly, I kind of stop
carrying at like four. You know. But if I get more,
I get more. If I don't, I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:29:00):
But you know, what I can say is that I
pretty much stand by everything I posted on my account,
whether it be because I think it's funny or because
I think point I stand by everything I say here
because I think that either it's funny, it's if it's wrong,
which it happens.

Speaker 5 (02:29:15):
Yes, I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 (02:29:15):
Sometimes I don't care that I'm wrong on the Internet,
oh my gosh, because fact checking ruins podcasts. The worst
podcasts in the world are the ones where somebody says
something wrong and they spend fifteen minutes trying to figure
out the right thing right.

Speaker 2 (02:29:27):
That's the worst.

Speaker 5 (02:29:28):
Those are the worst podcasts in the world.

Speaker 4 (02:29:30):
The good podcast are the ones that will just say
bullshit and just say things and just say whatever because
it's entertaining, because that's what.

Speaker 5 (02:29:35):
We're here to do. We're here to entertain. We're not
here to inform you of things, right so you know,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:29:42):
We're here to make you laugh, get your mind off
of something for a couple hours. And hell no, we're
not opening Anthony or Howard Stern or any of these
you know, big timers. But I think we we have
a nice uh chemistry together and uh, I think the
dynamic works. And that's why I've been doing it for
almost a year and a half. I mean, and trust me,

(02:30:06):
my friends, I appreciate each and every one of you
guys going on here. I mean two years ago, I
wasn't on this thing. I mean two years ago, this
wasn't on this these are these are great opportunities for us.

Speaker 5 (02:30:22):
I'll get I'll get into it. I'll get into it. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Before before this podcast and ship, I was not in
the best place in the world. Right, Like, I'm a dude,
I am on disability. I'm trying to raise a kid.
I'm pretty much saying. I mean, I'm a saying I'm
a single father. You know, Max is away from me
forout maybe one or two days a week tops.

Speaker 4 (02:30:42):
But and I kind of I took a step back
from everything and I said, you know what, I need
to focus on him and my mental health. Maybe not
the best in the world because all of my I
didn't translate to him. I was able to keep him
departmentalized from the rest of it. But when he wasn't around,
you know, I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (02:30:59):
In the best place.

Speaker 4 (02:30:59):
And then I started coming on here because I had
to move far away from all my friends and everything
because when I went on disability, you know. And then
I started coming on here and I met you, and
I met Beard, and I met Marv and you guys
kind of push push got me into this, and I
got back into something that I was quite frankly afraid

(02:31:20):
of because of bad things that happened in the past
through podcasting, and I came here and now I'm here
and I'm much I'm in a much better place mentally.
I think I'm a better father than I was before.
I can provide things for my kids. And I'm not
saying I'm rich or anything. I can I can take
them to a movie every month or so, or I

(02:31:41):
can do something like that. And and you know it
gives me the freedom to do that kind of stuff.
It puts me in a place where I'm not afraid to,
you know, pick up the phone or stuff like that,
like you get when you're in that bad place.

Speaker 5 (02:31:52):
You know, I have a terrible I have terrible anxiety
and it you know.

Speaker 4 (02:31:58):
So so this this community and this show and you
and awful and you are awful. You and Beard and
keV and Marv have done so much for me personally
that I consider you guys friends. And that's something that
I said I would never do again, have friends that
I only met online. I was Beard is the same way.
I know for a fact, Beard has said plenty of

(02:32:20):
times and he thought he'd never meet people online that
would become a friends. But we're all here and now
not only do I have you guys as my friends,
but I have a whole community of people that come
out every week to listen to us talk about wrestling
and make jokes.

Speaker 5 (02:32:32):
And that's all. I just want to make people smile
and make people happy and make people if I can
make them think a little bit, great.

Speaker 4 (02:32:38):
But I think I think the main thing to take
away from this is you guys do just as much
for us as we do for you. We appreciate all
of you and don't get involved in stuff on our behalf,
you know, just let it, let it go.

Speaker 7 (02:32:55):
If you see somebody out there, I mean, if you
see somebody out there being like Tony Job roughly sucks,
then sure, how fun go back and forth. Do you
see somebody like cut he talk wrestling sucks and here's
their addresses?

Speaker 5 (02:33:06):
Like just.

Speaker 2 (02:33:12):
You know, yeah maybe now you know.

Speaker 5 (02:33:16):
But anyway, we got super chaps.

Speaker 4 (02:33:18):
MJ MJ g is furious right now because we select
it to his But we didn't even read this one
that's been on screen.

Speaker 5 (02:33:25):
This whole time. Car wheels and flips aren't realistic. Regina
Shark five dollars are you saying, see the Warrior Princess
wasn't a real warrior princess. This my delusions stop? No,
she was, Yeah, totally. Did you have a think Chrisina
back in the day?

Speaker 2 (02:33:40):
Oh no, dude, that that what was that? Like Saturday
afternoon like television viewing and all that. I was outside.
I wasn't watching that in Hercules and there was like
a few other of those shows. It was just like,
oh what was I'm not into it?

Speaker 5 (02:33:55):
I did watch the Bruce Campbell one. I can't remember
what it was called now, but I did watch his
Cane one.

Speaker 4 (02:34:02):
Yeah, No, No, I did have a there was I
did have a period where I was in the in
the broad so who I thought could throw me around?

Speaker 5 (02:34:07):
I thought that was cool. You know, you know, I
think I think we all kind of went through that
at one point or another.

Speaker 2 (02:34:13):
No, we didn't stop at Phoenix stop stop right there. No,
he beat up by some broad Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (02:34:21):
Not beat up? Not beat up? That's you know, lovingly
thrown around. Okay, JG for four ninety nine, seem Bunk
is winning the Rumble and Sali and made.

Speaker 4 (02:34:37):
That was the I can't see that emoji. Remember this
super chat. I'll remember it because it's wrong. I think
I think Sam Bunk will be in the main event
of of I think he'll be in the main event
of Wrestleminnia forty two.

Speaker 5 (02:34:49):
But he's not winning. It'll it's going to be Sammy.
That's that's what they've been setting up for for years now.
And hey, look this is not in j G.

Speaker 4 (02:35:00):
Mister Jamie jam, I said, Jamie jam Does Marvel see
Jamie Jam or does he just say Jammy jam because
I thought always.

Speaker 2 (02:35:06):
Mister Jamie jam Jamie jam.

Speaker 4 (02:35:10):
Jamie jam eighty eight Howard of the one nine nine
Breaker vers spat to future like to you WrestleMania main event.

Speaker 2 (02:35:16):
Absolutely absolutely, mister Jamie jam I just happened to see
uh Fat too. It might have been No, I didn't
watch last week. But is it just me? Or is
he losing his aura? Or is it just me?

Speaker 5 (02:35:34):
Nah? I don't. I don't think so, Okay, I think.

Speaker 2 (02:35:37):
I think I think it's I think it's a deal
where it's just like losing aura by association. You keep
putting this guy with Solo. I'm no really interesting. I'm
not really interested in Solo as a character.

Speaker 5 (02:35:49):
Okay, that makes sense. I like, I actually kind of
think Solo is going in a decent direction. I was
it wasn't big on him for a while, but I
like that. You know, there's something to me about like
the guy too clearly? Is it in control? Who pretends
to be in control? I think the j C.

Speaker 4 (02:36:08):
Mattaeo thing hurt him more than anything I thought. I
think w t B pulled that guy in thinking that
he was gonna be like the big bat for Jacob.

Speaker 2 (02:36:16):
And I don't get it. He's Bronson reed Lte. I
don't get it.

Speaker 5 (02:36:20):
He's Rhino like he he I don't know, dude, I
get it.

Speaker 4 (02:36:27):
This is a perfect example of a guy who worked
really well in aew in New Japan and then you
bring him into the land of the Giants and just
doesn't stand up. You know, he just he's not that
like he's a good wrestler, but he moves like a
forty two year old guy.

Speaker 5 (02:36:44):
He looks like a forty two year old guy. He
didn't take time to get himself in shape.

Speaker 2 (02:36:50):
Yeah. Remember back in the day, my man, they would
introduce wrestlers, right, and they'd have him go on like
nine nine week winning streak against jobbers to really established
and give you an idea of what his finishing move was,
what his move sets were, what what kind of attitude
carried himself in the ring. You can really that professional wrestler.

(02:37:12):
Now it's just like you supposed to know this guy
because he wrestled out in Sacramento two years ago or whatever. Like,
I don't know, these people introduced them to me.

Speaker 4 (02:37:22):
Here's the problem with that is that the fans, now,
if they would have brought J. C. Mattel in and
had him fighting, you know, to Dala, they would be going, whoa, you.

Speaker 5 (02:37:34):
Vicked him the champ? Why is he fighting too? Why
isn't he the champion? Why isn't he on? Why isn't
he in the main? Bit? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:37:41):
Let him talk, you know, watch the money pole up?

Speaker 4 (02:37:45):
Okay, Vitty, that is a fifty quote by the way,
did he stole it? That is fifty and it's not
even fifty it's Lloyd Banks.

Speaker 5 (02:37:54):
But look.

Speaker 2 (02:37:57):
All right, you're into the colt.

Speaker 4 (02:38:00):
They both stole it from Actually the fifty didn't steal it.
He credited him and then did he dig in credit anyway? Yeah,
I I can see where it doesn't work in today's
environment because enough of the IWC bleeds into the crowd
that you would get a bad reaction if he was
I mean, look what look what Evan when brus they

(02:38:22):
did that with Russ and people were complaining and he
wasn't getting a reaction.

Speaker 5 (02:38:26):
Druso didn't get a reaction until he started fighting the
Shamus Like you kind of have to throw these guys
in unfortunately, and I don't know, you know, that's what
n XT's supposed to be for. But you can't very
well take forty two.

Speaker 4 (02:38:39):
Imagine what would have happened if they would have taken
forty two year old Jeff Cobbin putting them in XT.

Speaker 5 (02:38:44):
You know what would happened. He would have never made
it to the main roster.

Speaker 2 (02:38:48):
Ever, but you well, in an XT he would have
gotten to know who he was.

Speaker 5 (02:38:56):
Yeah, I don't know. I like, you know, look what
happened with Tallas hung where they put him.

Speaker 4 (02:39:02):
They actually made him work in the PC and do
dark matches beforehand, and people were like, I definite, way.

Speaker 5 (02:39:07):
That are you doing or whatever?

Speaker 6 (02:39:09):
You know?

Speaker 4 (02:39:12):
Anyway, Uh, yes, but yes Breaker verse Patu. That's actually
something that Max said. By the way, he said that,
Uh right after when Fatu really started picking up steam,
he said, do you think we never see brown Breaker
versus Jacob Batu and made event WrestleMania, And I said, hell, yeah, man,
they're both they're both young. They both got it. I

(02:39:33):
think even if even if Fatu is losing a little
bit right now, he'll get it back. He's he's good
enough that he'll get it back. You can't you can't hide.

Speaker 5 (02:39:40):
That kind of talent. MJG makes his return for a dollar.
The power to the one that nine.

Speaker 4 (02:39:46):
This is because I said he didn't pay enough forty
seven dollars. This ain't no a you paper, you do
I get my ten dollars back?

Speaker 2 (02:39:52):
No, you don't.

Speaker 5 (02:39:55):
No refunds. But yeah, I told you we get to it.

Speaker 4 (02:40:00):
It's back in JD Power, the one night night I
should have known Tony wasn't innovative. Yeah, what are we
talking about anyway? Uh lop seventeen B for two dollars.
What your name isn't awful? And dis No, I think
your name.

Speaker 14 (02:40:19):
Is all that is.

Speaker 2 (02:40:22):
I mean it's not spelled this whenever my wife gets
mad at me.

Speaker 5 (02:40:25):
Awful Yeah, no, yeah, you're you're.

Speaker 4 (02:40:30):
When you were born, when you were born, you popped
out and your mom goes, no boy or girl? Doctor
said it's awful.

Speaker 5 (02:40:35):
So that's so. Yeah, that's an awful guy's name. And
then he added the EU for brandy.

Speaker 4 (02:40:43):
But yeah, there we go. That is Oh wait wait
wait wait you know no, that is all our superchest
for Right now. We are two hours and forty minutes
into the show. Let's see if you guys can get
us some more super chests. We'll keep going. I do
have another little thing to talk about or.

Speaker 5 (02:40:59):
You know what should we do?

Speaker 2 (02:41:00):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 5 (02:41:02):
Should we do the promo?

Speaker 2 (02:41:03):
Let's do it all? Damn it, Let's expend our resources.
Okay for our tonight.

Speaker 5 (02:41:09):
This is uh so we have to. We have been
able to do these a lot because Yeah, I dude,
did I just call YouTube Yahoo?

Speaker 2 (02:41:19):
You did? You old boomer.

Speaker 5 (02:41:25):
Awesome?

Speaker 4 (02:41:26):
So so Yahoo has been keeping us down. Oh Richard,
the money mag is not discontinued. It is monthly. They
only do it monthly.

Speaker 5 (02:41:39):
So that's what God.

Speaker 4 (02:41:41):
Before we do this, let me give a big shout
out to our replay crew and we'll do that. We'll
do that, We'll do the super chat here. Whatever happened
to this?

Speaker 5 (02:41:50):
It is awful from DAGs for five dollars Australian, I
can listen to your blokes chat four ever love the
show replay crew, you know it's all. We'll get there,
I'm sure for we have fun me and awful fun together.

Speaker 2 (02:42:03):
Let me let me let me be transparent. I personally
have to get my YouTube channel up to like a
certain degree of what is it dislike? Uh, I gotta
I gotta have so many hours done in order for
me to do some sort of like live podcast, and
that's what we're essentially waiting for because I'm a lazy
fuck right now. And I think somebody in the chat said, like,

(02:42:26):
when's the next Death of ae W episode four coming out?
It will be coming out. What I didn't, Well, that's
another story. But yes, when it comes out, I will
be super satisfied with it. And when this is awful,
the show comes out or the podcast, whether it be
recorded or live, all these things will be coming out.

(02:42:46):
It's just a matter of life getting in the way
for some of us. And uh, you know we know
your people or some of your patients.

Speaker 5 (02:42:54):
Yeah, there there's life, and you know there's also things
like we would probably if we were doing our own podcast,
we'd probably want to invest in better equipment, and it's
hard to do.

Speaker 2 (02:43:07):
Both of both of us suck as far as the mics.

Speaker 4 (02:43:10):
Yeah, like we need better equipment, we need better computers,
that kind of thing, and it's hard to when this
is an a full time job for you. It's hard
to invest that kind of money into when you're unsure
about what's going to how successful it's going to be.
So we kind of just have to figure out where
we are and we'll get there. You know, like I said,

(02:43:30):
I if you if you want to, you're not a mark.
Keep keep letting us note. But that was I was,
oh yeah, the replay crew. What I was gonna say
is I'm gonna do something fun this week.

Speaker 5 (02:43:41):
So starting tomorrow and every starting tonight, we'll see I'm
going to put up a classic episode that's never been
turned into audio from Tuny Talk Wrestling every day leading
into our all in marathon this weekend. So you will
be able. You will have four new episodes plus this
one we'll go up on Friday.

Speaker 4 (02:44:00):
So if you are listening to us on Spotify or anything,
make sure you come to YouTube dot com slash Tune
Wrestling every Tuesday apm me Sion seven pm Central Time
and checkus out live. And if you are here live,
you can listen to the show again by looking this
up on Spotify something like that.

Speaker 5 (02:44:16):
We're not plugging it in the show. Don't leave.

Speaker 4 (02:44:18):
We are just saying that I just wanted to get
that in there because I know a lot of you
keep running out when we start doing the plug.

Speaker 5 (02:44:25):
So just let you know.

Speaker 4 (02:44:26):
If you are interested in listening to us in the car,
you will get Yeah, we lost four people because I
plug something. If you're listening to us in you'll get
four new shows this week to do. So anyway, let's
take this off and then we will get headed. We
will start on this video. This is one, by the way,
that our good friend Beard has tried to get on

(02:44:49):
for weeks and we just haven't really had time to
get to it.

Speaker 5 (02:44:53):
I'm I'm going to let you comment on a lot
of it awful because this is this is from This
is from w C. W not that WC. This is
from Women's Champion, Women's Champion, Yes, so that's the w C.
This is from We have been having trouble with Yahoo.

(02:45:14):
They've been demonetizing us a lot, so but this one
should not be demonetized. Here we go.

Speaker 2 (02:45:23):
Are you losers out.

Speaker 6 (02:45:24):
There shut up and pay attention because I got a
lot to talk about.

Speaker 2 (02:45:27):
But first I want to say, that's the first thing
that sticks out to me.

Speaker 5 (02:45:36):
Have you ever seen this problem before?

Speaker 2 (02:45:38):
I have many times before, And if you haven't seen
it and you're a pearl clutcher, you might want to
break out now.

Speaker 4 (02:45:46):
The first time I ever saw this problem was from
Pony Shavanni. Somebody posted it to him and he goes, uh,
he goes.

Speaker 5 (02:45:56):
Oh, Young Sean michaels.

Speaker 2 (02:46:00):
I cratch up.

Speaker 5 (02:46:04):
That got me, Phony, He's a.

Speaker 4 (02:46:06):
Good follow if you want a good follow on x
follow Phony Shavanni at Button's Heat sixty nine one of
my favorite accounts.

Speaker 5 (02:46:12):
Oh, second only to Beard in terms of parody accounts.

Speaker 6 (02:46:16):
Bryan, stop worrying. The Prince is recovered. I'm still looking good.
I'm still pretty baby.

Speaker 2 (02:46:23):
Stop right there. It's that pause right there that I
was just like, I've got to see more because he's
everything but pretty person forebost I'll yeah, he's working it.

Speaker 5 (02:46:38):
I'll tell you what, he's got more. He's got more
charisma than most of the a roster and about how yeah,
the next two rosters.

Speaker 2 (02:46:44):
So you'll find that out in the next ninety seconds.

Speaker 5 (02:46:48):
Yeah, there's a reason that you know, as.

Speaker 6 (02:46:52):
Far as those individuals responsible. Boogloo Brown, you're nothing but
a little give talking spider monkey running around.

Speaker 2 (02:47:01):
Uh. I can't even tell you if that makes the
race the racial radar A spider monkey. I've heard a
porch monkey. I've heard a monkey, but spider monkey, Like,
oh no, go on, that's the world.

Speaker 6 (02:47:21):
Because President Bonda won't give your idiot race South Africa.
Why don't you grow up brown and do something you're
qualified for, like shining shoes.

Speaker 5 (02:47:29):
Okay, so that's not questionable.

Speaker 2 (02:47:32):
Oh no, no, no, no, Jesus, yeah, there's no.

Speaker 5 (02:47:39):
Uh you know you can't. You can't, you can't.

Speaker 2 (02:47:42):
I love the eighties. I mean this is all that
it was for wrestling promo. Don't show them a Colonel
de Beers promo.

Speaker 5 (02:47:55):
Oh man, okay, you keep going.

Speaker 6 (02:47:58):
The speed of man Tagus the Greek bull dyke the
last time.

Speaker 2 (02:48:02):
What I can't say that ship? Now, well you can,
but I'm sorry he let it all hang out in
this promo.

Speaker 5 (02:48:24):
He's not wearing she was with the man. She was one.

Speaker 6 (02:48:27):
As far as I'm concerned, you got a she freak
over here, You got you got some idiot over here
thinks he's Desmond Tutu from Harlan And together these two
cycles viciously and without any reason, attack me. They split
my head open, they they attack my.

Speaker 2 (02:48:41):
Bodyguard, They attack one Lady Charlie Haynes and does a
w C W do a damn wah awesome. Listen, this
is every douche bag sixth grader that you have in
like that you have in your class. There's always one
of these types like pretend tough guy, chaerub face, shitty

(02:49:05):
haircut and thinks and thinks that like he's an attention
seeker and it's just great, keep going.

Speaker 5 (02:49:14):
That haircut, by the way, it's back. That's that haircut
is back.

Speaker 2 (02:49:19):
Who's wearing it?

Speaker 5 (02:49:20):
Beard? I mean he's Canadian in Canada, think about it.

Speaker 2 (02:49:29):
Hell no, they pat him on the back, tell him.

Speaker 8 (02:49:31):
They did good.

Speaker 2 (02:49:32):
He's got on the top of his head, ban.

Speaker 6 (02:49:35):
My bodyguarsh What the hell is the conspiracy all about?
Is it because we're so much better looking than all
these bimbos out there? But you know, it really doesn't
matter because I'll tell you why. The payback is coming, baby,
and the payback is going to be hell and it's
going to be one big surprise.

Speaker 2 (02:49:50):
And I'm talking all these bitches.

Speaker 5 (02:49:53):
That.

Speaker 4 (02:49:54):
The funny thing is that this is from the eighties, right,
that's the most shocking part about this promo.

Speaker 2 (02:49:59):
Right, it's the most modern part.

Speaker 5 (02:50:01):
Yeah, it's well, it's it's the one that you're like, wow,
he got away with that, like the rest of it. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
I mean that was what they did back then. We
get but he said, he said the b work, So yeah, I'm.

Speaker 6 (02:50:15):
Talking about Man Taga's Donkey Face, Candy Devine, the Ass,
Faith Princess, Jasmine, Robin jail Bate Lane.

Speaker 5 (02:50:21):
You all can come Robin jail Break, jail Bate Len.

Speaker 2 (02:50:26):
Somehm, great names. I bet.

Speaker 5 (02:50:31):
Was this an apartment wrestling group? Did you ever see
Women's Championship Wrestling?

Speaker 2 (02:50:35):
Never?

Speaker 5 (02:50:37):
Is it apart wrestling? Because I think it's apartment wrestling.

Speaker 2 (02:50:40):
I think it's apartment wrestling.

Speaker 4 (02:50:41):
That's the vibe I'm getting here, the fact that he
just said that somebody's name was something jail bait. It's
either apartment wrestling or this is this is secret footage
of Vince Russo's woman wrestling company that he wanted to
start nearly two thousands to.

Speaker 6 (02:50:57):
Me, and you're all gonna fall And as far as
you're can certain, Debbie Combs, you're two bit thirty five
cent champion with a body and EyeQ.

Speaker 7 (02:51:04):
To match it.

Speaker 6 (02:51:05):
And you might as well give it up, sweetie and
go back to the hills and sit moonshine with that
vallium addicted alcoholic.

Speaker 2 (02:51:11):
Mother of yours.

Speaker 5 (02:51:13):
Wow, they can talk, then, I'm not the American talk.
If he would have he could have been a manager
somewhere like he's.

Speaker 2 (02:51:27):
He would have definitely had to tone it down, you
know what. To be quite honest with you, I'd love
to know what Bobby Heenan might have thought of this,
or Jim Cornett might have thought of this, or Paulie Dangerously.
I have a feeling, bro that they would have been like, no,
he's trying too hard. He's trying too hard. But but

(02:51:48):
but he can talk, you know what I mean, Like
there's no now he can compare to today. Yeah, he's
he's phenomenal. But back then they're probably like, look at this,
try hard.

Speaker 5 (02:51:58):
You know what I mean. Keenan would have gotten kick
out of him. I think he didn't specifically, Yeah, he
didn't would have gotten a kick out him. He would have.
He would have not taken him seriously, but he would
have gotten a kick out of him.

Speaker 2 (02:52:10):
Right, he's got he's got a punchable face.

Speaker 5 (02:52:14):
Does yep? Yep?

Speaker 6 (02:52:16):
And the Prince are going to take the World championship
because I do everything.

Speaker 2 (02:52:20):
Very good, if you know what I mean. All right, now,
look at the size of this guy. His head is
gigantic compared to the rest of his body, and look
at black Jimmy Hart. That's crazy, that is it's black

(02:52:44):
Jimmy Hart. It's Rosie O'Donnell about to do a set.
And who is that the I don't know? Should we
just keep going?

Speaker 5 (02:52:51):
Should we just keep going? Please?

Speaker 2 (02:52:53):
Sorry? I interrupted?

Speaker 5 (02:52:54):
No, No, I was going to cut it off, but
I think I might maybe I'll just keep just now
my curiosity. No, I need to know where this is.
And excuse me. He asked me to wait a minute.
This that your face thinks that he is the best man. No, brother,
I don't think. First of all, black man shouldn't be
talking first.

Speaker 2 (02:53:13):
Okay, that's exactly what Marv told to me after the
first show.

Speaker 5 (02:53:27):
You guys want to know where counselor are with there?
You uh, you gotta be sitting in the back of
some line. Okay, right, I've done more in the business
and professional wrestling. Its obvious and the sexiest combination of
people come to press and looking in my mind sex sex.

(02:53:50):
This is not This is not Falcon Press.

Speaker 8 (02:53:52):
This is win about no sex people win.

Speaker 5 (02:54:00):
He gave me the whole coaking pirates to be fair.

Speaker 8 (02:54:04):
Disgusting that you are.

Speaker 5 (02:54:06):
You can see she doesn't even deserve to Greek. Is
that Prince Nana is that?

Speaker 2 (02:54:15):
No way. Prince Nana was probably in Congo, but back then.

Speaker 4 (02:54:24):
His mannerisms reminds me a lot of of the A
W like where it's like look look at him, look
at him over it. It's like when you when somebody
doesn't really know how to cut a promo, they just
fill it up with like look at back.

Speaker 5 (02:54:35):
Look, we'll go over there to that that.

Speaker 2 (02:54:40):
It ain't cool being no jab turkey Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5 (02:54:47):
You should have been a manager. Oh my gosh, look.

Speaker 2 (02:54:58):
How that?

Speaker 5 (02:55:02):
Wow? Great minds? That just popped up right after I
said it. So I assuming you got to my thing
right after that? What did you say?

Speaker 2 (02:55:14):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (02:55:17):
Nyla Rose, it's she looks like she does look like
she's a mix between like Sherry and Paula Pals right,
Like she's got the you know, she's got kind of
the bullet thing going on like Sherry did.

Speaker 8 (02:55:33):
Such a faggot. I don't understand what?

Speaker 5 (02:55:38):
Oh where did this air? Who put this on TV?
I think Almo's dead? So we're gonna get going here.
I'm here, Okay, okay, you heard that. No, you're dead.
You're dead, am I you were for a second. Are

(02:56:02):
you back? I should be okay, we'll get through this NBC.

Speaker 4 (02:56:09):
Oh no, Beard says, it's public access in California, So
that seems like it makes a lot more sense. We're
gonna finish this up and then we're gonna open up
the show.

Speaker 2 (02:56:19):
Yes, I don't remember watching this much of it. But
when's the end drop? I mean, because it's we're already
on that train, Like, what's happening here? We're gonna go Beard,
it's over?

Speaker 5 (02:56:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:56:39):
I knew we should have played. Yeah, we should have
played the segment.

Speaker 5 (02:56:47):
Yeah, here's here's the thing. This is the kind of
thing that you're gonna get when eventually we do do.
This is awful. We're gonna accept do do And that
was funny. But like you know, we're gonna try to
do more clips and stuff like that. We're gonna find
an outlet where we're allowed stuff like this and we
can play stuff that maybe we wouldn't be able to
play here.

Speaker 4 (02:57:03):
So that's that's kind of the whole point that we
that's the whole reason we want to do it in
the first place. Right, So okay, you know what, we
got one more super chat here, and like I said,
if you guys keep super chatting, we will keep going.
But I'm going to uh start closing it out here.
Andre Adams for a dollar ninety nine power to the

(02:57:23):
one nine nine, dis got that outfit in his closet. Man,
I wish, dude, I'd wear that shit so much. If
I had, I'd wear it all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:57:35):
I got.

Speaker 4 (02:57:37):
I have my my goat, my wrestling hat, right, I
have a wrestling hat. It's one of those golf hats,
the cabby hats, you know. That's my wrestlant so I
I it became a wrestling hat because Delirius used to
throw it off of me into the crowd all the time,
So that became my wrestling hat. Okay, we got Virgina
Sharp closing us out. It looks like with five dollars,

(02:57:59):
holy shit, know wrestled for the guys.

Speaker 5 (02:58:02):
Which one they both kind of looked like.

Speaker 2 (02:58:05):
The kind of looked like LA three of them.

Speaker 5 (02:58:09):
That's that's something we didn't what we were talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:58:12):
Lunava Shan, Yeah, she's she's she's an Okay, she was okay,
she was better when she was with Bam Bam. When
they I think when they uh put her alone you
know what I mean, Like she got she just got
lost in the sauce.

Speaker 5 (02:58:26):
I thought she was good with Sean Michaels too. She
was like the replacement for Sherry.

Speaker 2 (02:58:31):
Oh yeah, for maybe a cup of coffee, gotcha.

Speaker 5 (02:58:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:58:34):
But like I just once you got with Gang Greel,
that was that was what it was. It all went
downhill at that way. And you can learn more about
that from Dark Side of the Ring.

Speaker 2 (02:58:42):
I think so. I think in the next few minutes awful, awful.
I think in the next few minutes this I think
we should uh just answer questions from the chat. They've
got to be got asked questions.

Speaker 5 (02:58:55):
You know, we got anything.

Speaker 4 (02:58:57):
We're pretty much done here though it's been We're almost
a three hours longest show we've done in a long time.
If you have anything that you want to ask us
or just interested in, you know what, I'll even know
over up to the regular chat.

Speaker 5 (02:59:08):
You guys want to hit something up, you gotta give
you what do you say, five minutes? Give them five.

Speaker 2 (02:59:16):
Time?

Speaker 5 (02:59:16):
There you go, So what do you want to talk about?

Speaker 4 (02:59:18):
And tell you know what, let's do plugs and then
we'll come back to it and see if we've gotten
any how's that sound?

Speaker 2 (02:59:23):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (02:59:24):
So yeah, so make sure, like I said, stick around.
We'll answer some questions after the plugs. But yeah, make
sure you're tuning in every Thursday over on Tony Talk
TV Tonytown TV, sorry for Tony Talk TV. Marv and
keV and Nolan and Trish and their giant crew of

(02:59:45):
people will be talking about Superman and how terrible it was.

Speaker 2 (02:59:49):
How great it was. One of the two.

Speaker 4 (02:59:51):
May possibly, I mean, I know keV. I don't think
keV is going to be saying it's good no matter what.
Marv might be open to it. Oh, he seemed a
little like on the fence.

Speaker 5 (03:00:00):
I don't know. We'll give up our thoughts right now.
I don't care. I don't know. What about you, Awful
do you care? No, Awful doesn't care either.

Speaker 2 (03:00:10):
I kind of I kind of care. I'm here, I'm
sitting right here. What's going on? You are?

Speaker 3 (03:00:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:00:17):
You're fine?

Speaker 5 (03:00:18):
No? Yeah, I don't. I just don't. I just don't.
I just don't care Superman. I've never been a DC guy.

Speaker 4 (03:00:26):
I liked Batman, but that was about it, you know,
so whatever, if it's if it's good, it's good. Oh wait,
someone's we just got oh, it's Beard Hi Beard Beard Heeer.
You know, if it doesn't affect me more, I'm never
I'm not probably never gonna see it. I gave up
on color for movies a long time ago because they
started making a new homework.

Speaker 5 (03:00:45):
And I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (03:00:47):
Like when they started being like when it started when
it was like you have to see one or two
movies a year, I was down. And then it became
you have to see like four movies a year, and
it was like okay, and then it was like you
have see four movies a year plus a TV show, right,
and now let's you have to watch four movies year
or six movies here a TV show?

Speaker 5 (03:01:05):
Uh? Or three TV shows? A cartoon you have to
watch an internet short you have. It's like, dude, just
let me. I don't want, you know, I don't need
all this to enjoy. But then if you if you
come out and you're like, you know, I didn't really
like blah blah blah, they'll be like, well, can't you
see the what if episode of episode.

Speaker 2 (03:01:21):
Four where they it's like show right, yeah, yeah, watch.

Speaker 4 (03:01:24):
So I don't really care about Hollywood movies, but if
you do, I know that's great for you, and there's
a perfect show for you on Thursday nights Tony Talk TV.

Speaker 5 (03:01:33):
Beard is here twice percent, so uh you got that.
You've got This weekend, we're doing the All in Marathon.
I don't know who's I know me and me and
uh me and Marv are for sure going to be there.
It'll be right here on this channel YouTube dot com
slash at tune Wrestling. If you're listening to us own podcasts,

(03:01:53):
it'll be We'll start right around the time of the
start of the show, probably about fifteen minutes before the
start of All In. We will be covering me and
will be up there.

Speaker 2 (03:02:04):
You will, yeah, you will.

Speaker 5 (03:02:07):
Okay, so Awful bit Awful gets to enjoy Saturday Night's
main event. We if we might be able to enjoy
Saturday Nights main event unless we get our goal and
then we'll have to turn it off. But we will
be covering an xt Great American Bash. We will be
covering all in. We'll be covering Saturday nights main event,
and if we get the thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (03:02:28):
We will be covering the scrum afterwards. We will save
from the beginning until the end of the scrum if
we make that. If we make that goal, and it'll
be a I have to save my voice for the
next four days because it's going to be a long day.
I'm going to maybe scatter some uh what's called some
Dave stuff throughout the show to kind of mix it up,

(03:02:48):
because I'm sure you guys don't just want to hang
you know, hang out and listen to us go.

Speaker 5 (03:02:52):
Yep, that's wrestling for twelve hours. But uh, there there
will be a there will be some of that. It'll be.

Speaker 2 (03:03:02):
I have heard.

Speaker 4 (03:03:03):
Specifically that this show will be long, and when they
said long, they said, I don't mean long like you
think long, I mean aw.

Speaker 5 (03:03:11):
Long, which scares me so because like there's a couple
of those matches that like Okata and Kenny might go
an hour. Dude, you know so I think I think
we're gonna have a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (03:03:25):
But we will be there on Saturday to hang out
with you guys and entertain you and hopefully make it
a little bit better, and then we're back here next Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (03:03:34):
Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast.

Speaker 4 (03:03:37):
Check out our discord we hang out every Monday and Friday,
and follow me on Twitter at aw disciplinary Awful, what
do you got?

Speaker 2 (03:03:46):
Well, you know, my YouTube channel exists now. It's at
the Awful Wrestling on YouTube and you can also check
me out on x or formerly known as Twitter at
a w F wrestling. Yeah again, it blows my fucking mind.

(03:04:08):
Thank you for the fifteen thousand followers that were not
bought and paid for. It was organicic and from the muscle.
I'm so glad you guys appreciate my work. I mean
I was really I'm really just just trying to make it,
make it happen, and I thank you guys for helping
me get there.

Speaker 4 (03:04:25):
You and my My favorite current Awful story is the
is if anyone ever claims that Awful bought followers, I
can tell you he did not, because I got a
message in my inbox yesterday Awful like, wait a second,
you can buy Twitter.

Speaker 2 (03:04:43):
Now. I said that, not as like some sort of
like hey, I'm going to do that, but it was
one of those things where I saw one of my
haters using this this that tactic to gain followers, and
then you go to his particular site or his particular account,

(03:05:04):
and the first one hundred, the newest followers all have
zero followers, and they were created in July of twenty
twenty five. Like it's just like, how can this be?
How much more can they get away with? But yeah,
thank you all for helping me out, for hyping the
channel up, hyping the Tundy talk, wrestling up, hyping off

(03:05:26):
of wrestling up, hyping, hyping it all up. Thank you guys.
I mean, I'm fiber guests it every time I go
on my account. And by the way, it does not
take me for fucking hours to construct a tweet. Okay,
the longest I have the longest time it takes me
to construct the tweet, and that's for the aw ratings video. Ah,

(03:05:50):
forty five minutes, and that's during the course of the
entire day, you know what I mean, Like I do
it the night before so that way I can just
sit on it and just wait. But sometimes it'll be
like yeah, yeah, I mean thirty yeah exactly, because they
have no creativity, no sort of. They don't even know

(03:06:11):
how to wind people up properly.

Speaker 5 (03:06:13):
So they if they want to get any reaction, they
have to spend an hour during there. It's the same
thing where people are like I can't believe that your
entire life is tweeting out is on the internet. It's like, dude,
the only reason you think it's your in my entire
life is because clearly it's your entire life.

Speaker 2 (03:06:32):
Yeah, because you're constantly checking my stuff, you think, And
I just made some new tweet. I average about nine
tweets a day. Check it out, look it up for yourself.

Speaker 5 (03:06:40):
Yeah, and you know, you know, you know where most
of my tweets are constructed on the toilet.

Speaker 2 (03:06:46):
So, dude, you too.

Speaker 5 (03:06:50):
So all of this strap where you're like, you're you
you spend so much time on you're tweet's like, no, dude,
I think it's when I'm on my phone while I'm
taking it dump so I'm able to accomplish more pooping
than you are.

Speaker 6 (03:07:09):
No.

Speaker 5 (03:07:09):
Yeah, it's so funny that they think that we're just like, oh,
we're gonna get him with this one.

Speaker 4 (03:07:14):
It's like, nah, dude, when was the last time I
sent you a post? Before I did, it was like,
let's be good. Should I post this?

Speaker 5 (03:07:20):
Should we or have we?

Speaker 4 (03:07:22):
We've never gotten together and been like, let's make sure
we post this at the same time exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:07:27):
You know what I like sometimes that we must I
must admit sometimes I'll send a beard or diss a
tweet and I'll be like, you know, before I hit
the post, and I'll be like, uh, should I send this?
Is this gonna get me in a lot of trouble?
And they're like, ah, dude, send it, you know, and
it'll be like in a w it's okay to hit women.

Speaker 5 (03:07:51):
Yeah, yeah, Like at.

Speaker 4 (03:07:53):
Most it'll be something like, is this because there are
times where you stopped me from making a tweet or
Marv Marv specifically has stopped me from making it and
probably go a little too far, you know.

Speaker 5 (03:08:05):
And that's the only time I ever like, have you
guys screamed my posts? Every other time I just put
out there.

Speaker 4 (03:08:10):
And I've also had a couple of times where one
of you would hit me up and be like dude,
really and I'll be like, nah, you're right, all right,
I take it down. But I've seen I've seen screenshots
of group chats where people are like, Okay, I'm gonna
tweet this.

Speaker 5 (03:08:23):
Oh yeah, and then I want you to tweet this
at five fifteen. But we can't act like we saw
each other. Make sure we post this all at the
same time so people think that we all thought of
it by ourselves.

Speaker 2 (03:08:32):
Like that, it's so ridiculous. And I would encourage anybody
with a Twitter account and uh, this is just for
mental health reasons, find yourself a group chat. So that way,
this way, when you think that you're like skirting the
edge of whatever the fuck it might be, before you
post or whatever, you can run it through some some

(03:08:52):
people and see if they like it or not. But
on more so than that, we use our group chat
to like go like, I can't believe this is happening.
Things that we would We like things that people who
are ridiculous put out publicly. We kind of sensor ourselves

(03:09:13):
because we're all adults. We're all mature. I for one,
have a daughter that follows me on my own thing,
so there you know, there you go. So it's just
like we're not going to just put out anything and
you know, no, we.

Speaker 5 (03:09:26):
Get it out of our system.

Speaker 2 (03:09:28):
Yeah, we get it out of our wevent so that
way you don't have to see us lose our goddamn
minds when something or other happens or takes place on
next where we're being doxed or try to be docked,
or being made fun of and all the other nonsense.

Speaker 5 (03:09:42):
What happens in the group chat, stays in the group chat.

Speaker 4 (03:09:44):
But to piggyback on that, don't get involved in those
big giant group chats that have like five hundred people.

Speaker 5 (03:09:49):
In it like that.

Speaker 2 (03:09:50):
Yeah, and please don't put me in any of them.
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (03:09:53):
Every day, man, every day I get another.

Speaker 2 (03:09:56):
Yeah, and they're all twelve year olds. I can tell.
I could just tell, like, yeah, dude, did you see
Live Morgan's booty?

Speaker 4 (03:10:05):
Yeah, ninety percent of them or that them are like
wait a second, did Jade's nipple pop out?

Speaker 5 (03:10:10):
You know, like it's all that and everyone once in
a while, but they get it. They're so fast it's
hard to keep up with them. But yeah, I don't
I don't think those anymore.

Speaker 4 (03:10:19):
I have two three four group chats maybe, and all
of them are like separated my interest and yeah yeah yeah,
but yeah, find a group, find a group of friends,
do this stuff. And you know, I kind of I
kind of made light earlier of like Twitter spaces. But
you know what if that's if that makes you happy, man, awesome,
I like I said, I think I think all Jake
and uh and Georgia, Yeah, doing a great job over

(03:10:40):
on Sundays keeping a classy too.

Speaker 2 (03:10:42):
I like, I love that concept when when when I
saw it happening, I was like, what a great idea.
It's so it first off record the spaces and then
throw the thing on YouTube. That's a phenomenal idea. I
don't give a ship what you say, because now you

(03:11:02):
are interacting with your ex users, your Twitter users, and
they too, well Jake and George don't really do it,
and I'm hoping that they will at some point. I'm
sure they will, like they did.

Speaker 5 (03:11:14):
A couple of even don't do it on every show.

Speaker 2 (03:11:17):
Yeah that's right, right right, Yeah, so awesome.

Speaker 5 (03:11:21):
The ones where you do it on every show, that's
usually when the problems happened, because then any person can
come on there and they'll say something stupid and then
it's glued to you for the rest of your life,
you know.

Speaker 4 (03:11:31):
But yeah, but they they run a type ship now
awful glove, short space, holl go on. If you have
a Twitter space, I don't care what it's about, awful,
show up on it. If you have a Twitter space,
if you if you have a you have a price
hog and you're gonna make a Twitter space talking about it.
Awful be there to plug a ship.

Speaker 2 (03:11:52):
It's so funny, dude. So I think it was Monday
or Sunday, but Saturday, I'm not really sure. I saw
a I saw a Middle Eastern spaces and I was
just like, okay, I I kind of a little you know,
FARSI urdu. All I wanted to do Bro was get

(03:12:15):
on there and listen. Within three seconds of getting on there,
they were like, we have an off wrestling on with
us today all phone, would you like to would you
like to say? I was stuck, dude. Now, all you know,
all praises to all praises to Allah first and foremost,

(03:12:37):
and I appreciate the invite, but I was so caught
off guard. But yeah, please if I, if I, if
I happen to show up on your spaces, it's more
than likely that I'm in the middle of a project
or I'm working and all I want to do is
listen and enjoy. That's all. Thank you though, to be

(03:12:59):
a part of it.

Speaker 5 (03:12:59):
He definitely tell you.

Speaker 2 (03:13:01):
I will let you fucking know. I'll text you and say,
let me speak you bitches.

Speaker 5 (03:13:07):
I do I I do want to do our one day.
Here's here's the in here's the end game for all
of this. But one day me and.

Speaker 4 (03:13:15):
Awfel are gonna live fairly close to each other and
we're gonna do a show where we fish and talk
about wrestling, and it's gonna be you know, it's righty,
Me and Awful on a boat, old men fishing and
talking about wrestling. And then we'll bring we'll bring like uh,
you know, and we can bring special guests on and
they can come out and be fishing, fishing for heat.

Speaker 5 (03:13:35):
That's what we're gonna do. So twenty years from now,
you're gonna see old man this an old man Awful.

Speaker 4 (03:13:39):
And we're gonna be out on a boat and I'm
gonna be I'm gonna wearing the Awful with this mask.

Speaker 2 (03:13:44):
And I'm eighty seven years old. Now you think I
got that kind of time last.

Speaker 4 (03:13:49):
You're gonna Yeah, dude, dude, I can't make the joke,
but yes, you're gonna live forever. But yeah that yeah, yeah, No,
we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (03:13:58):
Be on We're gonna be on uh, We're to be
on you actually you know what will be on the
pro Wrestling channel.

Speaker 2 (03:14:04):
On the dude, the way we talk, We're gonna be
on four Chan, how about that?

Speaker 5 (03:14:12):
Yeah? No, hey, god.

Speaker 4 (03:14:15):
By the way, I heard there's a twenty pro wrestling network.
You're looking for uh, looking for programming?

Speaker 2 (03:14:23):
Yeah, I know what's about that?

Speaker 4 (03:14:24):
When he talked wrestling, Hey, I wouldn't mind being on
Serious Have you listened Do you have serious novel?

Speaker 6 (03:14:30):
No?

Speaker 5 (03:14:31):
No? Okay, I I well we'll talk what about I
listened to a little bit of a pro wrestling Nation.
They called it Coaches the Worst, Coaches the worst dude.
He will take any opinion if he thinks people argue

(03:14:52):
about it, any opinion that's out there, he will take it.
And he will say the most just the most ridiculous
things because he knows people are gonna call and act
with it, so he'll just like and it takes like
weird stances like darn't say you can't even talk like
like dude, you know, it's it's that kind of stuff.
I actually kind of like Sam Roberts, which I.

Speaker 4 (03:15:12):
Never did before, but really, yeah, Sam Roberts is okay,
he's a good radio host.

Speaker 2 (03:15:19):
I was soured by him on Anthony. I thought he
was annoying, little prick.

Speaker 4 (03:15:24):
So I have I have a I have a soft
spot for like old school talk radio, you know, driving
Bell yeah, yeah, the home man.

Speaker 5 (03:15:34):
You want to Okay, that's it. We're doing up all night.

Speaker 2 (03:15:40):
Bell Able night was around the was okay, oh.

Speaker 5 (03:15:46):
Man, No, I can't think of it. He's it's still going.
They have that George guy, George Norri is doing it
now right. Yeah, but they talk about aliens and stuff.
That'd be cool. You can listen to dose.

Speaker 4 (03:15:58):
He does stuff like that. I guess you could check out.
But yeah, I was for talk talk radio my dad.
We used to drive around the car. There was one guy.
He used to talk about wrestling, and my dad said
when he came on, I was able to control the radio.
I could turn on the day they would talk about wrestling.
But after that, I, uh, you know, I couldn't do
it any more. Time just joined us. But you know what, Sorry,

(03:16:20):
I'll bring him on for a second and tell him
we're gonna end the show.

Speaker 2 (03:16:22):
Yeah, bring him on, bring him on, bring him on.
We can go off night. God damn it.

Speaker 5 (03:16:29):
How the show guys.

Speaker 9 (03:16:35):
Thanks a love for tuning, Thanks for coming everyone.

Speaker 2 (03:16:39):
I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (03:16:44):
We said like three times we were talking about getting
off the air, and nobody we got one question from chat.

Speaker 5 (03:16:51):
You want to see the question we got from the
chat after the one question that you guys.

Speaker 9 (03:16:57):
Kept saying you believe and you didn't leave, So come on.

Speaker 5 (03:17:01):
Yeah, here's the one we have. One question is from JA,
why do you drive on a parkway and park on driveway? Yeah?
Can I tell you what? Can I tell you what?
Here's what I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (03:17:13):
I was doing that family viewed game right, and I
got I got, I got some good I got.

Speaker 5 (03:17:18):
Some good responses, I got some good stuff going do somebody.

Speaker 2 (03:17:21):
Else just going what the hell is that woman?

Speaker 5 (03:17:26):
So I got Here's here's the thing, guys. Let me
tell you. I'm gonna try it again. And uh, when
I try it again, I don't know who is responding. Okay,
So your little like cute answers just make.

Speaker 4 (03:17:43):
My job more difficult and will probably lead to it
not being used because like one of the questions I
had was what name a wrestler turned actor?

Speaker 5 (03:17:54):
Right? Because it's family few, you do very broad questions
and you just pick the most popular ones, right, I
was getting right, somebody put Lenny Montoya or something on
there when I said, when I said most popular women
of all time, it was like Wendy Richter, And it's
like dude.

Speaker 4 (03:18:09):
Yes, okay, there's an argument to me about Windy Richter.
But number one, that's not the first one name that
came in your head. And number two, you know, I'm
not that's gonna You're gonna be the only one that
does that. And it's just making it harder, it's making
me not use it, So there's no reason to be cute.
I can't see how smart you are by putting that
stuff in, So just don't do it.

Speaker 5 (03:18:29):
Time. I'm sorry, I'm sorry you came in so late.
I'm very Oh, I'm sorry. So here we got another one.
We got you can answer this one. This one's just
for you, okay. Father and son are in a car accident.
Father is dead, son is in critical critical condition and
transported to the hospital. Surgeon sees who it is and says,
I can't operate on this man. He's my son. Who

(03:18:50):
is the surgeon?

Speaker 2 (03:18:54):
I know the answer to this? Well do Yeah?

Speaker 9 (03:18:57):
It's a mom, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (03:19:00):
The mom is the surgeon. You didn't know that, all
bull of you. That's sexist. You couldn't imagine a woman
being a surgeon. Dude.

Speaker 2 (03:19:05):
The only evolution I want to see is how you
how you wash a dish. No, come on, see that's
what I'm saying, Like we can't listen. Here's the bottom line, gentlemen.
If my daughter laughs, I don't give a fuck what
you guys think.

Speaker 9 (03:19:27):
I love in California. I'm obligated to be offended, right right?

Speaker 5 (03:19:32):
Dos dos? You just not yourself? You just everyone out.
Everyone knows that. Everyone.

Speaker 9 (03:19:37):
I'm very open about everything about my life. I'm like
the least private person.

Speaker 5 (03:19:45):
All Right, we're gonna bring Beard on, but no, I
can't do that.

Speaker 2 (03:19:49):
Bring on Beard, Bring on Beard? No, okay, yeah, I
think this show has fallen off the rails. Also go ahead,
keV Apollo, Yes, on X as well. I think it's
war Dog Apollo. W a R d og Apollo.

Speaker 9 (03:20:11):
Yes, intimidating for me. I can't a w neck Beard.

Speaker 4 (03:20:17):
Our producer extraordinary hangout in the chat. Please follow him
at aw neck beard not with an S. He is beard,
but they count as beard, right, I got that right?

Speaker 2 (03:20:28):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (03:20:29):
And uh, I believe time. You know what you showed up.
Why don't you plug plug something?

Speaker 14 (03:20:34):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (03:20:34):
Sure it's at time underscore traveling.

Speaker 8 (03:20:41):
On X.

Speaker 9 (03:20:42):
There you go, That's all I got for you.

Speaker 4 (03:20:45):
Time will be time time will be dropping in and
out or dropping in here every once in a while,
especially on nights when we don't have a full proof.

Speaker 5 (03:20:52):
So for hanging out here, Tom.

Speaker 2 (03:20:56):
You sound like like the voice over for like uh interrogations.
This is three year old thing Campbell. She murdered her
boyfriend in cold blood.

Speaker 9 (03:21:11):
She murdered her boyfriend in cold blood. She thought, there,
we have it away with it.

Speaker 5 (03:21:17):
He does have a good a good voiceover. We missed
the super chat. Yeah, yeah, my my.

Speaker 15 (03:21:25):
I had a therapist at one point. I only had
n't played two sessions. That was like one of those
better help trials and uh, and he was like, yeah,
you should do a radio show. I'm like, yeah, I'd
like to. I'm just a lazy fuck, so I hop
on other people shows and I hang out.

Speaker 5 (03:21:42):
I don't think we missed a super chats. We answered
your question about where is this is awful And that's
the only thing I.

Speaker 2 (03:21:46):
Saw for Awful's white YouTube channel. Been recovering from an
ear infection, still more tolerant than mona mag or whatever
else out there. We get that one.

Speaker 5 (03:21:56):
No, I did not there. I did miss that one
which was there. It is JPS for five dollars for
as YouTube. Jentlemen, we're covering from an ear infection. Still
more tolerant than the monet bag or whatever meltzer skis
out for what's for awfuls?

Speaker 2 (03:22:10):
You can kick oh the five and I expect to
see it.

Speaker 5 (03:22:14):
Okay, so two fifty because you because awful. Your check
for seventy five cents will be in the mail.

Speaker 2 (03:22:24):
After taxes.

Speaker 5 (03:22:26):
Right, no, no, no, no, you big taxes taxes around you.
I'm not taking.

Speaker 2 (03:22:33):
I can buy a popcorn.

Speaker 4 (03:22:38):
So all right, Well, thank you guys for hanging out.
Beard has left twice. Now I feel I think you
wanted to talk to us after the show. Beard, if
you you can jump back in, we'll be hanging.

Speaker 2 (03:22:47):
Out for yes, please stick around after the show there, Beard.

Speaker 5 (03:22:50):
And uh yeah, that's it. So from me from Awful,
from time, from mar from from Beard, from ghost from
thank you all hold on did you just say?

Speaker 9 (03:23:03):
From dose.

Speaker 5 (03:23:09):
From swerve thank you so much for tuning in and
we will see you next week.

Speaker 14 (03:23:16):
Bye bye, Now, Betty the platypus that half of my
thank you, thank you your piece of trash, thank.

Speaker 5 (03:23:35):
You, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 14 (03:23:39):
Oh I suppose you'll want me to say thank you
all what saying thank you?

Speaker 5 (03:23:45):
It's like jobbing thank you, a little message, thank you, oh.

Speaker 8 (03:23:52):
You, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 5 (03:24:05):
Thanks for what.

Speaker 2 (03:24:09):
HI home from all of us here at Tunytown.

Speaker 5 (03:24:12):
Thank you, and you us like you. Thank you,

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