June 10th, 2025: Dave Meltz Down Over AAA-WWE Viewership, Ron Killings Breaks Internet

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Speaker 3 (03:56):
It lit bit my fault. I've been here for forty
five minutes.

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into blaming you, and I was like, you know what,
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When I post in the chat, it comes up it's
your name.

Speaker 10 (04:16):
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it's me because you're late.

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Speaker 3 (04:23):
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Speaker 1 (04:26):
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that's what I do. But uh, there is hey, awful
wrestling here. What's going on, buddy?

Speaker 5 (04:45):
What's happening?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
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Speaker 1 (04:53):
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Speaker 5 (04:58):
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Speaker 1 (05:00):
Two minutes zero laughs in one copyright stretch.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's been in the group chat all day.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Is not my.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
Dude, I I'm living out of boxes right now.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Jack did like it, but Chad did like.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
It about I know, I was just kidding, you know me.
I like to be a curmudgeon, and I'm glad that
challie I liked to do was good. Alright, so guys,
we have got I mean we've been saying all week,
We're like, man, this is gonna be a ridiculous show
because there's so much that's happened in the last week.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
I mean, it is get out of here.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean between between Triple H and Meltz are having
his melts down and and w b D collapsing and
Judge is just so much to discuss. Guys, U all
the our truth stuff. I mean, there's a ton going on.
Kevin Apollo told me he's not sure if he's gonna
make it. To make he has been like he's actual

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like shoot job has been just absolutely crazy for him lately.
He had to travel all last week and even still
it's like killing him. So I told him, if you
can make it great, if not, don't worry about it.
I mean, he was on the Pro Show today OI
last night, so he's just he's exhausted. I told him
to get some rest, so we'll see if he uh
he pops in later on. But guys, I know it's

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I know, I'm a little echoey tonight. It's uh, I'm
in my new studio. There's nothing on the walls yet.
It's you know, basically everything is still in boxes.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
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like that, the echo will go away. So you know,
it's just a matter of getting used to the new
space and and optimizing it for Yeah, well it's a
three bedroom, two bathroom house, but you know than the

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one better than the one bedroom apartment that I've lived
in before.

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Yeah, go the compound.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
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I'm like, you know, well, before we were married, like
when we were living in sin like it was a
good first apartment that we got together. But now I'm
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to start?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Really?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
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Speaker 3 (07:40):
You'll have a kid when I can move in there
and raise it.

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For you, mister nanny over, I'll throw a dog into
the water.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
What the hell?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (07:53):
Exactly, all right, guys.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
As you guys all know, this is a show made
for you and funded by you. We count on your
generous super chats to get us through. You keep the
lights on around here, mostly because things like our intro
get us to monetize pretty much on every episode, so
we take breaks in between each story to go through
your super chests. We do break for super chats A

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fifty dollars or more, and my goodness, we're kicking things
off the right way with Andre Adams to fifty dollars
guys for super teens, fifty dollars or more. We stop
whatever we're doing to talk about whatever you guys want,
and Andrea Adams is coming in. Strong's pride has been
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(08:36):
prove that they're too corp with school while being the
smartest person in the room. We all know they never
get worked right.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
It is Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
It has been amazing to watch the IWC Soy boys
collapse in upon themselves this past week, just because there's
been so much between Triple A and truth. I mean,
the sheets have just been losing their minds. But Andre
Adams fifty dollars, thank you so very much. That is
super generous and we very much appreciate it. I couldn't

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wait to play that.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's why That's why I wasn't commenting on the comment,
because I was waiting to yep.

Speaker 10 (09:41):
I think we're I think we are at the point
now where we don't have to call Dave Meltzer and
those guys anything other than just the IWC, because that's
all they are at this point.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
They're not journalists.

Speaker 10 (09:52):
They're not they are just members of the IWC, and
that's it.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's it's it's a it's the Wrestling Observer. Is us
as good as a Twitter account at this point?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, I mean, at the end of the day, I
you know, the the you know, the dirt sheet guys
when they say something, I mean, I'm more likely to
believe Banana Williams than I am to believe one.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Of them Williams joke lined up too.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
But no, but seriously, like they they've just they've proven
that they know nothing about Trip has locked down the
avenues of communication for the WWE.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
And there is just nothing going on. I got to
being communicated good.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
You're a journalist.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
If you were to report one third the bullshit that
even Dave Meltz reports, what would happen to your outfit?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
What would happen when your well, I'd be fired. So
you know, like I actually like have journal and if
any of my writers ever turned in half of the
unverified nonsense that that he puts out there, and that
can even unduly false, Uh, they'd be I'd fire them,
So you know, it's it is It's just yellow journalism,

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is it is. It is having to be first to
the plate no matter what. And that is that is
Dave Meltzer. Uh, you know, straight up. I mean that's
what he's always been. It's it's why he rushed to
UH to try to say that WWE was having a
backlash in the Tokyo Dome when it was literally just
somebody with a photoshop job, because he needed to beat
Sean Roth's sap to it. He needed to beat the

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torch to it. He need, you know, he needed to
beat PWY like that. It's just I have to be
first because I'm Dave Meltzer and everyone comes to me
for their news.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
Only they don't anymore because i.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Mean, look, even in terms of reliability, he is far
from the most reliable news source. I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Would like anybody really is big as is UH sourcing him.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
But everybody puts sources him. That's the problem.

Speaker 10 (11:50):
Yeah, the biggest problem is that he gets sourced by
the people that matter. He gets sourced by like Variety
and People Magazine and stuff like that, like.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
He unfortunately the variety writer, the Variety writer that's set
to write about WWE.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
Who knows nothing about WWE.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Google's Wrestling News, and he's probably the first thing that
comes up, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Or Vice TV and he sees Dave's ugly mug on there, like, oh,
he looks like a reliable source.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
Right right?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
How do you guys like the image of him with
the sombrero in the mustache. Originally there was a word
bubble that said dios mio, but I thought it was overkill.

Speaker 10 (12:36):
He it's funny that Worlds Collide is the thing that
he melted down about too. There's so many other things
that happened, Worlds Collide was the thing that he got on.

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two companies, will the bankrupt one take AW would end
their deal early?

Speaker 7 (12:55):
The bankrupt one is definitely taking AW.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
We're going to talk about that later because we're gonna
we're gonna kind of dive into the what, why, where,
how of this WBD split and what it means for
a W And it means bad things for a W
because it means that a W is no longer with WBD.

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we get there, we'll get there, we'll get there, We'll
get there, but we'll get he has a contradictory.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he does.

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can get back to actual actual people having the belt.
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more duct tails than pro wrestlers.

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Uh well, I mean one is consistently good and one
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Always will make.

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I think Goos is basically just there to put it
on Seth, because if you have Seth take it off

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of Jay, then Seth is stuck feuding with Jay for
a while. If Seth takes it off of Gunther, then
Gunther can get a match on Raw and then move
on with his life, and Seth can feed with Punk
the way he's supposed to do.

Speaker 10 (15:30):
What's really scary to me? What's coming up in two weeks?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Excuse me? What's coming up in two weeks?

Speaker 7 (15:39):
My dates are all mixed up. What it's coming up into.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Night Night of Champions in Audio area. Okay, where is good?
Where is Goldberg supposed to have his last match? Is
it of Champions in satdi Arabia Audio Arabia. That's what
everyone was saying.

Speaker 10 (15:53):
And uh, I just I really hope that they don't
pull a thing we're going through just loses it to
gold and then Seth cashes it on Goldberg and gets.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
The title back or something like that.

Speaker 10 (16:05):
Goldberg, dude, I just something feels weird about this whole
thing because who like Duther, doesn't have a match set
up for Night A Champions and there's nothing, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's just all feels weird.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
So are they trying to make Guther or a babyface
out here or what?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (16:20):
I believe so, yes, that's gonna be a weird one.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
I can't. Yeah, that's that's weird. I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
I think he's gonna be more of just a wrestler.

Speaker 10 (16:28):
I don't think he's I think he's gonna be a
babyface when needed and a heel when needed because he
he started doing the whole like being respectful thing to everybody, right,
but he still is a little like there's a little
tinge of I'm you know, he's in it for himself,
so it's hard to tell, but they're definitely not making
him a traditional.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Going through or foign heel anymore.

Speaker 10 (16:49):
Like he's more it seems like he's just I want
to say, Brett hart Is esque.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Kind of you know, is what he is reading as
me reading to me?

Speaker 5 (16:56):
So I don't know an undertaker babyface.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
A little bit.

Speaker 13 (16:59):
Yeah, let's see John Williams for nineteen ninety nine says,
who's the white guy in the sombrero in the thumbnail
looks like that guy who punched that robot in the
street about Grock's that Meltzer It can't be because the
dude looks like.

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He would have an actual girlfriend.

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That is uh, that is David meltzerou or.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Fred Armison one of the time.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
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is enjoy Saudi punk less.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
It is always Mike Mazzanin always wins.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Don't even ask about the guy that picked him out
of the locker room way back when. Wow, that's true.
Miz does get his revenge in the end, doesn't he.
That'll that I'll teach you a punk, You're gonna get
a massive payday.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Exactly what's punk? What's happening?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean, look, you no punk's you know, punk's gonna
wrestle in Saudi, which is something he said he'd never do.
Remember when he like full on criticized everyone and he
like told him is that he was taking like blood
money and stuff like that. This is his hypocrisy at
its finest.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, I guess. I don't know, dude.

Speaker 10 (18:04):
You know you know me though, I'm always one of
I'm always wanted to give people the benefit of the
doubt and let them grow.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
And maybe he's growing and changing as a human being.

Speaker 10 (18:10):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
We don't know.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
People have.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I actually respected his opinion on the Saudi thing because
he was right.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
But I like what they did yesterday. See, I wish
John Cena would have leaned into it more. Actually, when
he had his promo with punk like you will have
to face me in Saudi Arabia, a place that you
kind of don't appreciate, I thought he should have leaned
into that a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Do you think then?

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yes, I believe so.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
If they have a memory, I don't think.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
I don't think that. I think he'll be happy to
see him more than anything.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
You know, they'll be real.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
Happy to see John Cena.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I mean, look, they they cheer for for Sammy Zaying
and he's their sworn enemies, right right.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
I think they forgive punk. I don't, and that really
says something.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
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to call the BP special around here. Thank you very much, BP,
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Speaker 7 (19:09):
We love you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
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you and it is forcing you to watch the media scrums.
Help is on the way. Oh good lord, that would
be a fate worse than death, just like paying like
that clockwork Apparently, Ryan Damon for five dollars is shoot job,
subtle shout out to booking the territory. The Unprofessional Pro
Wrestling podcast, Now that's just what we what we call

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real life is. It's a shoot, it's not a work.
So I don't I don't know. I don't know what
that podcast is. So John Cage for ten dollars, his
marker doesn't need kids, he has dislying to him all
the time. Awful judging him and Kevin's basically his wife. Anyway,
we are we are Turk and JD. We have made

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that comparison before. I said to him once. I was like,
you know, sometimes I like to think that we're Danny
Rand and Luke Cage, but in reality we're turking JD.
Anthony Gordon checking in for ten dollars Canadian says I
really thought Seth with cash in last night, but oh well,
I'm the only one who doesn't want to see the Bellas.
No no, no, no no.

Speaker 10 (20:15):
That was the worst part of all last night. I
can't stand that woman, and watching it.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Was I missed the Bella. I mean I saw I
see Bella and I just tune out, so.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
It was funny. It was funny. Well, I mean she
came out and then she said I'm great and I
missed you guys so much, and I love w W
Lee and Stephanie Baquay is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh did she really say that?

Speaker 10 (20:42):
And then and then all the all the like twenty
to twenty three year old girls who probably got into
wrestling because they watched her, were like literally crying in
the crowd, mark like literal tears.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
They showed close up crying while she was in there.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
Oh wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What woman got into
wrestling because of Nicky Bella?

Speaker 10 (21:03):
Probably one who watched Total Diversion thought I liked this,
so I'm going to watch wrestling to see more of them,
That's what I'm guessing. And then yeah, and then when
Morgan came out and showed how much better she is
than Nicky Bella ever was well.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I mean, also, why do you want Nicky Bella without
bri The point of them is that they're twins.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
I think we're I think we're getting bre We're.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Getting I don't know about that. Missus Daniel, missus Brian Danielson.
You really think that's gonna happen?

Speaker 10 (21:35):
They left it wide open for a tag match because
Live was with Raquel.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
And right, but normally like, yeah, that would be the
thing that you'd want to see.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
But I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Her husband.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, you know, ae W is gonna eat crap if
she shows up, even though she's never stepped foot in
a w It's gonna be a matter of you know,
people are gonna like laugh at Danielson because Danielson is
so aw right.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
But Daniel Briant still gets paid, so he's like.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Well, you know, I think the Bellas are probably realizing.
I think that the Bellows are probably realizing, like, look,
the only way that anyone wants to use us is
if we're the Bellas and we can't beat the Bellas
if we're not here.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
I have to be here.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
But finally, mister Jamie jam checking in saying, wwe should
have cut the dirt sheets ages ago, especially with all
the constant, constant hit pieces on them.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
Sean, we fooled them again. Yeah, that's pretty much what's happening.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
All right, guys. We'll get to the rest of you
superchats throughout the show. We take breaks in between stories,
we break for super chats of fifty dollars or more.

Speaker 7 (22:50):
So yeah, just.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
You know, a sound off, and we will get to
your comments as they as we go through the show.
So I guess the first thing we should really be
talking about is the our truth situation, guys, because Truth
comes back on Money in the Bank, shocks everybody and
then says on Raw that he is Ron Killings.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
He's Ron.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
They're not saying Ron the Truth Killings, but he's just
Ron Killings, right.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
Well, he said, I'm Rong Killings and then he said
and that's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
the Truth, which was his TNA catchphrase when he was
Ron the Truth Killing.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
So I'm thinking it's going to be Ron the Truth Killings.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I mean, the second I saw that he was Ron
Killing is goin. I'm like, that's brilliant because now they
have access to all the TNA footage. Yeah, and so
you can you can actually put out in TNA. If
they're smart, should have put out one of their big
omnibuses of just Ram the Truth Killings today on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's actually kind of upsetting.

Speaker 10 (23:50):
The WWE already has a WWE wrestler under contract with
the TNA title, because if he lost it to Ron Killings,
then it would be exist exactly what AW.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Did to TNA.

Speaker 10 (24:02):
Yeah, you can't really do that, but the story of
Ron Truth winning the TNA title and basically.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Doing going to going like he goes to TNA.

Speaker 10 (24:13):
To John Cena, how it should be done, how to
really carry the title and be the exemporary champion and
that kind of stuff I think would be a cool
storyline because I don't it doesn't seem like unless they're
going to bring him right back, and it doesn't seem
like he's back in with Tina now you know the
last night and they didn't interact at all.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
So all right, well, the TNA is dropping the ball.
And when we see TNA runs a really good YouTube
game because TNA is constantly posting old shows on YouTube. Now,
they're constantly posting old matches. They'll post like current Angle
matches and Booker t matches and aj styles stuff. They
the fact that that it is. It is not the
Ron the Truth killing show on there right now? Is
it's not. I'm looking at I'm literally looking at it.

Speaker 10 (24:54):
On Saturday, they put out the best of Ron Killings
in TNA on page.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Unless they took it down, it was up.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I'm looking see it.

Speaker 10 (25:03):
Yeah I should I pulled it up to show Max
some of Stubby did. But unless they pulled the Killings
and it.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Was maybe it's on their playlists.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Maybe or maybe a live thing. I don't know, it's not.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Maybe maybe they did it as a live thing. But yeah,
I don't. I don't see it on there. I'm looking
right now.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I don't see it.

Speaker 10 (25:20):
Yeah, it might have some of that stuff gets pulled in.
It might have been something you know or something that
was Guys.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
It's a good thing that w W e called because
Ron the Truth Killings was so ready to go to
a W like he was like a second away from it,
right because if you asked bj Dethel, just everyone's favorite
credible news source, Killings was likely on his way to
a W. His past and experiences match well with their company.

(25:51):
This is analysis by the way top wrestlers in their fifties,
from Jericho to Daniels to Jared have also had great
matches and had good work all over the car and
if in that the place to wrestle ID, which means
if I think, if you're an African American male is
ae W, said one. The African American male has succeeded

(26:13):
in ae W in six years.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
He's gonna explain it to you.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Mar Got Hurt the kid is the top stable arguably
and tag champs. Okay, well, you can't really argue that
the Hurt syndicate just does whatever the heck they want.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Swarm Strickland is arguably the top star.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
He's not the top star, He's nowhere near the top
star and has modeled himself as the Tanahashi Ace and
facing the company and media appearances. Okay, so I'm sorry
because three black guys are doing Okay, that's why it's
it's what what about? What about nxt? What does Alfred
call it? Like African XTA, because like it is just
NonStop like awesome black dudes.

Speaker 10 (26:54):
Also, what kind of douche would say that were strickling
model himself on the Tanahashi Ace model instead of just
saying something people understand, like John Cena.

Speaker 9 (27:05):
Because.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Because he has to prove how much smarter he is
and how much more about wrestling he knows than you.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I hate him so much. He's my new He's my
new least favorite person in the ie.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
He's like, somehow smarmmier than Nelson Nelson, than Meltzer.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Nelson. This guy sounds like a Nelson, doesn't.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, man, I am.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
The nervous man to say that a e W is
the place for African American males to wrestle.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Awful hell, ain't invited.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
To look at how long do you think he lasted?
A cookout?

Speaker 9 (27:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Coming coming around with his unseasoned potato salad and it's
his boiled hot dogs.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
He's the guy calling the cops on the cookout.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I hope you're like, very are we going to do
with celery sticks and and and and peanut butter?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Store bought potato salad. He stopped it stop right on
the way over make potato salad.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
That they did it.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
He's the greatest potato salad in the world. And you'd
be you'd thank you for bringing it.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Out, but not unless Babel's in the back kitchen whipping
it up.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
So obviously we saw Ron Killing's return and we saw
him cut his hair off.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
That was interesting.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
I don't really get that part, but you know, hey, hey,
you know.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I mean he's gonna if he's gonna be more serious now.
Maybe it's because he doesn't want to look like Our
Truth anymore.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, I guess, I guess. I guess what he said
when he.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Looked at the camera.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
Yes, true.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Did you see when he looked at the camera and
he was like, hey, Truth, I'm taking over now. I'm like, oh, please,
please give me a universe where Our Truth and Ron
Killings are two different people fighting for control of the
same body. Like please tell me, like like Ron Killings
will be in some death feud with John Cena and
they'll be in like hell and a cell and then

(29:15):
all of a sudden midway through the match, he just
turns into our truth and starts like doing the worm
or something.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
The same shock value as the cow add the same
shock value and the same effectiveness as the Kyle Fletcher
head shaving. It did absolutely nothing except to go, oh
my god, he did it. But I think a heel
should have cut arc of Ron Killing's hair. Same thing
with Kyle Fletcher that air versus hair match against will

(29:45):
Osprey and lost.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Something's got something's got to come out of this.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
It's just that he's not immediately going after Seena, unless
they're saving that for SummerSlam.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I don't know. I think maybe do we want to
see that.

Speaker 10 (30:03):
Maybe towards the end of Scena's of Seena's rain, it'll
be kind of he'll come back into the picture.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
And also awful.

Speaker 10 (30:11):
I hate to say this, and this isn't don't take
this the way it sounds initially. You sound a lot
like Tony Atlas right now talking about talk about tape this.
Remember when Tony Atlas we talk about tape this, how
you can't tape your pis during the match because they
can't have a tape this match. You can't cut your
hair when wrestling because then you can't lose it in
a hair verse hair match, right, I mean that's that,

(30:33):
you know, it's wrestling, and it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't know, cutting your own hair. I guess it's
got to lead to something. With Flesher, it leads to nothing.
I'm interested in seeing where this is going to lead to. Hey,
we've got the bald truth.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
I guess I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
My question to you guys now becomes was this work
or is Triple H wants you to believe? Or was
this a you know? Did did w W just come
to its senses? Did the fans win this one? That's
I'm I'm more leaning toward the latter. I'm more leaning
toward the fact that, like they released him because corporate

(31:17):
numbers and whatnot, and then all of a sudden the
chance started and they they reversed course because they were like, oh, okay,
this this organically got over. But we've seen this happen before,
like with Matt Hardy, though it took a lot longer
to actually come to fruition and then w W immediately
killed it.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
What do you guys think does it?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Did you know we have the Triple H clip right
of him, of him talking about it.

Speaker 10 (31:42):
Yeah, but he doesn't really. Well, that'll come in. That's
that'll be about it for after I Okay, first off,
he was not released. At no point was he released. Okay,
that's no one ever said he was released. That's just
what IWC people ran with. He said that they are
not renewing my contract and come up this summer. What

(32:02):
I think if anything happened.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Okay, first off, fifty to fifty sans, it's all work,
and I kind of hope in my mind, in my
mind's eye, I hope that's what it is. I love
the idea of this whole being work.

Speaker 10 (32:15):
If you want to get down to the bad bones,
I think that it's a negotiation. I think they went
to our truth of a low ball offer. He said, Now
you know what, I'm not gonna take it. Have a
nice day. He went on Twitter. He said, they're not
resigning me. I had a great run in WW. Thank
you fans, and we'll see you down the road. And
he knew that people would start reacting and then ww

(32:36):
came back to him with a better offer. That's all
I think happened. I think that that has no sense
in my head.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
But look, if there's one thing I think that that's
gonna set AEW apart from everyone else, it's for its
wrestlers to start commenting on this situation. Why why did
they felt them feel they need to do this? So,
Ricochet has claimed the fans who claim arts for the
situation with ww was a work are mental patients, it

(33:03):
says the says the avatar of of of positive mental
health Ricochet, I mean, come on, man, like, why are
you Why is this even a blip for you? Why
are you commenting on this? Could you make yourself look
any more bush league?

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yes, they're coming on everything.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Wrestlers stay away, yeah, really stay away from social media
when it comes to the w A don't even mention them.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It just makes you look like a fan. Yeah, it
makes you look like a like w w E guys
are not going out there. Kevin always told me that
at wrestling school, when the trainers would walk in and
then hear the guys talking about John Cena, the the
instructor would say, hey, John Cena is not talking about
you right now? Like you know Rickens, like Ricochet, you're

(33:51):
talking about our truth, our truth thing talking about you,
so it makes you look bush league. So but to
get a real informed opinion on this, According to The
Wrestling Observer, Ron Killings did ask Ron our Truth specifically
requested the name change his real name, Ron Killings as
a part of his agreement to return.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
To w w S.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
When he does end up leaving, that name will already
have been established on WTV and he can keep using it.
So again, Meltzer is like, oh, but he is unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
They're all going to leave.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Everyone's gonna leave eventually.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Like, so simplified are their assessments of the entire situation.
I think our boy s Arrest did the same thing, like, yeah,
his contract will be up.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Well, everybody's contract will be up at some point, you dope.

Speaker 9 (34:47):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Brett Hart's million year contract would have been up by now.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
Like It's it's insane to me.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
How they like they just need to like add a
little something to to show that they've got the you know,
the inside scoop. It's like you could look at the
fact that he's he said his name is Ron Killings
and be like, yeah, he probably requested that and reported
it as if it's fact, and then you two can
charge fourteen ninety nine per person per month for your

(35:18):
your tremendous insight.

Speaker 10 (35:20):
Okay, my biggest question in all this is where were
these Where were these stories on Friday? Where were these
stories on Saturday afternoon?

Speaker 14 (35:28):
If everybody didn't exist, if everyone knew, if everyone if
everyone knew that this was a work or knew that
it was a shoot, and they knew that our truth
was calling Nick Daddy Nick.

Speaker 10 (35:39):
Con to come and fix Triple Ah's mess or whatever
they want to say happened. Why didn't they report it
when it was happening. Why didn't they report it until
truth was already on TV? Until the cat was already
out of the bag.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
That's why I.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, Yeah, because now, yeah, now that it happened and
you all saw it and we didn't report on it earlier,
we're going to tell you exactly how it came about.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, And that's why that's why I say.

Speaker 10 (36:07):
That's why I say over and over again that I
cannot completely discount the idea that it was a work,
that it was a work. I can I can't do that.
Why would they do it because why not. They got
they transitioned our truth into a more serious character.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
This is a good way to do it if that
was your goal.

Speaker 10 (36:22):
And the fact that no one said anything about it beforehand,
all you get now the only thing.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
And really, honestly, I don't.

Speaker 10 (36:29):
Care if it was a shoot or a work it
through for good television, which is what a good promoter
will do. They will take the truth and the reality
and they'll work it into their program and make it
the best that they can.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
And I think that's what happened here.

Speaker 10 (36:42):
But I just don't understand why people get so worked
up about getting worked.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's like, it's wrestling, guys, That's what.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And that's the wrestling. From the very beginning of its
the very inception of the of the form of entertainment
that it is is or sport, whatever you want to
call it, has always been about working you. And as
time goes on and people get more quote unquote smart
to things, the ways that you are worked change, but

(37:12):
you are still being worked. It's like the people that
get so mortally offended at El Grande Americano and I'm like, oh,
are you mad? Do you want to boo him? Do
you want to see someone beat him up, like you're
playing right into it.

Speaker 10 (37:28):
Yeah, Like pull up the Triple H clip would be
good here because that's what everyone is mad about. They're
all so mad because Triple H won't come out and
say that it all was real.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
But when he does do that stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Was there something go ahead, let's listen else that made you.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Guys a side like you know what?

Speaker 1 (37:48):
We want?

Speaker 7 (37:49):
This guy still here?

Speaker 9 (37:50):
I love the question enjoying the show? The whole part
of the show man.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Mark is that's what you are? I don't Yeah, by
the way, he really sounded like my Triple H.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
Didn't me like to one more time.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
To play a role in it?

Speaker 15 (38:12):
Or was was there something else that made you guys
to side like you know what?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
We we want?

Speaker 7 (38:17):
This guy still here?

Speaker 9 (38:18):
I love the question enjoying the show.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
He lives a question.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Second round.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's so part of the show Man, It's I mean, look,
I don't believe for a second that this is all
This is just all part of the show. But it
looks like we lost awful. He should be back soon.
But I don't believe for a second that this is
all part of the show. From the beginning, I really.

Speaker 10 (38:44):
Don't know, but I think what I don't think he's
he's not answering the question that was a non answer
to that question.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
He did not.

Speaker 10 (38:52):
But everyone's so mad that he doesn't come out and say.
It's like they're they're petulant.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
Because he's not Tony Kah.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
He doesn't see talking about how he writes the show
in one breath and then comes around and starts to
try to work you in the next.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
He's always working you.

Speaker 10 (39:06):
But these people are the same people who get on
Tony conn about it, and they don't notice it with
them themselves.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
They just want It's like they're like I.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Looks like I yeah right, they're awful.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Okay, I might be I don't know how things work.

Speaker 10 (39:22):
The chat say I don't know how things work apparently so,
but here's what the idems has filled of right now.
It's a lot of petulant children going, I I'm the
reason that our truth came back, And Triple H won't
say that I'm the reason that our truth came back.
But I just want Triple As to tell me I'm
a good boy and that I caused the change and
that it wasn't It's like, yes, okay, yeah, sure you

(39:44):
might have. But if he came out and said, okay, guys,
here's what happened. We had a long negotiation with our
truth and he did, then you're giving away the business.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
And then everyone gets mad at you for giving away
the business. So what you do. You say, it's all
part of the show. I hope you're enjoying the way
you do.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
And by and by saying that all the.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Business works, thank you, Chad, Okay, by saying that.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
What's so very interesting about all of this is that
Triple H was able to Triple H by the way
of the w W WE was able to cannibalize the
entire Internet media for at least three or four days
and booted aew right out of any sort of like
news cycle.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
And that's working. That's working the sheets right there.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well, I mean, like, the thing that I find absolutely
insane is the fact that they don't realize they're being worked.
And the whole point of the business is how many
times throughout years have we have they turned shoots into
works And most of the time back then, back in
the day, you didn't even realize it. Yeah, but I
mean it happened all the time. The biggest instance of

(40:57):
it I think was Montreal where we turned to shoot
into a work work.

Speaker 10 (41:00):
Yeah, the biggest here, I'll let me, let me do
this biggest Yeah, this, this is the biggest thing that
everyone points out to say that it was.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
It was definitely not a work.

Speaker 10 (41:13):
Is under a fade away media post ar truth said
no work, so that because he's in character exactly okay,
no Mark, he's a wrestler and he said it's no work,
which means that he that's the magic word. If you
say no work, that means this is real. Now that's
you don't have to believe anything else he does. But
this part was real like they made on Raw. They

(41:35):
had him come out of the crowd, like he broke
into the arena wearing a disguise and stand on the
announcer's table while everyone you know, it's like, is that real?
Did he really break into the arena and tell everybody
that you know he went against what Triple H said?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
And is that real now too? Or no, that's real?

Speaker 7 (41:53):
Do you do you remember when Matt Hardy came back?

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Like do you remember after that we want Matt chance?
When when Matt Hardy would like jump edge backstage and
then get chased off by security, and the announcers wouldn't
acknowledge it, as if it was just some random fan
who jumped in, like they do this stuff, man, they
do it all the time. But he got them on
the HOUSEWI with R.

Speaker 10 (42:18):
Remember remember Batista was doing an interview and then some
fan ran in and did a little thing in front
of him for a second and then ran off and
there was no reason for it and it was never
mentioned again.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
And it's just a thing that happened. Was that real?

Speaker 10 (42:32):
Or like it's it's so dumb to me that everyone
cares so much about what's real and what's fake.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
It's like, it's is it entertaining? Did you get our
truth back?

Speaker 10 (42:44):
Because that's what you said you wanted You said you
wanted our truth back, and our truth is back? Or
well Ron Killings is here, but it's he's the man
is still in blue.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
So that's what And and by the way, yes, Triple
H did post the picture of him pointing at our
Truth with the caption you wanted it, which I mean
that's not him confirming that I did this for you.
It's just like you wanted it, you got it.

Speaker 10 (43:08):
So watch the show, like that's the point they wanted,
you know, and yeah, there's some that's an interesting point
in the chat. Why didn't people throw throw this bit
about Carlito who did the exact same thing last week,
you know, and before before Money in the Bank started,
people weren't talking about Truth anymore.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
They were talking about mister Iguana.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
So don't then if truth, if truth was very smart,
if this was a negotiation, because he got it exactly
when he needed to, Because if this had gone on
a week more, the crowd would not be chanting for him,
that would be it.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
By the way, By the way, you have the AW
fans and were like, oh, look at the FED fans
freaking out about a guy with an iguana puppet, and
then they were but they're the one if he had
showed up an ae W they would have said it
was wrestling art like and they were the ones that
freaked out with the Mercedes Monete puppet, which, by the way,
you know, I've been told that AW fans don't like
puppets very much, except for when you know, Harley Cameron

(44:07):
did it. But you know, just saying really, i've heard
through the grape Fine, they're not they're not big fans
of the art of puppetry.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
What's really funny about that is, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 10 (44:17):
I'm pretty sure mister Iguana wasn't aw and he didn't
become a viral sensation for some reason.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I can't think of a reason why.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
I mean, he was because nobody saw it.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, oh what, no, five hundred thousand people on Max
you know what?

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Anything about the archery situation.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I don't think we're gonna find out if it's a
work or not based on how he's going to be
used and in like the next six seven weeks.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
It properly it'll suck, you know that.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
Look at the end of the day, you could you
they're not there.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I don't think they're going to give a big, long,
you know, main event push to a fifty year old man,
no even even one as as spry as our truth.
I just I don't think that's gonna happen. I think
if he gets over, he can have a really big
main event pay per view match and then that's it,

(45:11):
you know, like, and then he'll be a solid mid
card guy, I guess for the rest of his career.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I think he can. I think he could be best
used as WW.

Speaker 10 (45:20):
At this point, I really do, you know, I mean, look,
how awesome you're sending one of your quote unquote top
stars to the other company where he can he can
own that company, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
He's and he's an established legend in that company.

Speaker 10 (45:34):
Yeah, and he can and he can say that he
chose TNA because you know, like the whole idea is
that he was the TNA champion and instead of spinning
his last because you know, I mean, this is our
truth last run either way, and he can say, you know,
I want to spend my last run with the company
that made me, that took me seriously, that that saw
me as a serious athlete and not just a joke,

(45:56):
you know, and do something like that.

Speaker 7 (45:59):
Man, Yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Cut his money maker yesterday. I don't know if he's
gonna be that viable as the liaison for w especially
with that.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I don't know. But but then again, you know, it's
like what this said before, like you can't like if
you send him to TNA and have him take the
TNA title off the other WWE contracted wrestler. It's literally
just what aw did, minus the cringey Tony Kahn heel promos,
which is which you know we all agreed, helped no one.
I think that's especially TA table. That's not Yeah, no, no,

(46:32):
he's I think truth is on. They're they're looking at
him and John Cena. They're not sending him to TNA
right now. In the future maybe.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, what we talk about right now?

Speaker 10 (46:42):
Yeah, because like I said earlier, it's a terrible idea
to do it right now.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
It's awful optics.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
All right, Ready to get to some more super chats
before and move on? Sure, all right, Stephen Nicoyle for
ten dollars is gentlemen, gunther as the World heavyweight Champion again.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
Right move a wrong move? Also Jay Uso boring champion,
ya right move and yay boring champion.

Speaker 10 (47:10):
Right move and right move. But I actually think Jay
grew into the title. I think the rain was better.
I think Jay is one of the few people whose
reign was better than his chase.

Speaker 7 (47:20):
Oh the hell were you watching, dude?

Speaker 10 (47:22):
It was good the chase. You you hated the chase.
You hated the chase, mar I hated all of it.
I hated the chase, I hated the destination. But sometimes
sometimes you do.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Sometimes you do a terrible car ride for for eighteen
hours sitting in the back, sitting in the middle of
the back seat with a seatbelt up your butt, and
then when you finally get there at the end of it,
it's a terrible destination. You've gone to see the world's
largest ball of twine. That's the jay Uso World title.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Okay, well, difference is mark.

Speaker 10 (47:52):
I watched weekly television at this time, and uh I
eye witnessed a man become more comfortable than his skin,
become better pro become a better promo. His match with
Seth Rollins was a legitimate main event match that could
have main event in any pay per view of the year.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
No from carrying from carrying him finish line.

Speaker 10 (48:17):
But I'm saying he grew into his position and he
is now an established made a winner.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
The title did exactly what it was supposed to do, and.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
He is going to do awesome in the in the
upper mid card where he belongs.

Speaker 10 (48:31):
He is he is a main eventor I'm sorry, Marv,
you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
He's he's a main He's going to be a main
inventor in the way the Damian Priest is now a
main eventor and then like he main events, but like
he's not sniffing the title again anytime soon.

Speaker 10 (48:45):
There's a whole separate group of main eventors that the
general public considers to be to to a lot of people,
Jay USO is every bit as big as yourew McIntyre
to a lot of people. And I understand that us
don't see it. We don't see it that way because
we worked, you know, we're more concerned about skill and
that kind of thing. But to the average fan watching it,

(49:08):
Jay usso, is as big or bigger than your McIntyre.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Would you ever say to your McIntyre is at a main.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Evenor No, I would probably not say that.

Speaker 10 (49:16):
Okay, Well, I'm just saying that there's to that crowd,
to the WW audience, the ones that are paying money,
the ones that are buying T shirts, jayj.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
You know what much of them. I'm glad they're enjoying it.
I'm just saying I don't really see it and I
don't like it. But I'm not the target audience, and
that's fine. The target audience is the thirteen year olds
who watch every week and then talk about it in
school on Tuesday morning, which is you know what I
was Once upon a time when I was the target
audience or fourteen I think I.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Was so.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, like that's yeah, you know, it's notither here there.
I just don't think it was very I think they
got everything out of it that they could have gotten.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Out of it. Yeah, it was time to end.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
It was time to end.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
Yes, they hit the jeck button right at the right time.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yes, I totally agree with you on that.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
You would give me up a one ninety nine power
to the one. Nine says better Saudi Arabia than Canada. Okay,
all right. John Williams for four nine nine says with
that Total Divas, we never would have gotten heal seen
a well, I mean yeah, we saw He'll see on
Total Divas for years. By the way, if Nikki is
back and she has a babyface, you have to have

(50:25):
her interact with John Cena at some point. I mean
his heel promo was basically what he had to have
said to Nicki Bella when he broke up with her.
So uh, Pj's zero two d for two dollars is
to Tony Fumble on mister iguana. I didn't know Tony
had mister iguana. Look, I'm not saying I think mister

(50:47):
iguana is is entertainment. I think he's probably somewhere in
the neighborhood of Orange Cassidy. Something that you see on
an indie show and you go, that was pretty funny
or like ina like that belongs to Orange Cassidy, would
be would do great in Triple A.

Speaker 7 (51:04):
I think.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (51:06):
I mean, Tony does a lot of silly Luca gimmicks
and puts them one in the roster and that iguana.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
But it's the perfect fit for lujalybre wrestling.

Speaker 10 (51:15):
That's where that stuff belongs in a way, you know,
it's what it was made for.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
So yep, justin Ja Alexander for five dollars, is BJ
looks like one of Elon's failed test tube babies. Oh
my goodness, that is that is That is a statement.
So that is certainly a statement and one that we
are not making. Juan Ala Khan for ten dollars says,

(51:41):
don't worry all whole.

Speaker 9 (51:42):
BJ.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Bethel may not be invited to the cookout, but he's
also not invited to the carne asada.

Speaker 7 (51:47):
That's the Mexican cookout. Whitey Monster, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
John Williams for four ninety nine is now I fired
Booker t he was taking too long in developmental and
wasn't shown on NXT yet the booker t wasn't backstage.
Strange coincidence fantastic blazing bolts for two dollars is the
Muppet should just take over a w hashtagg them up
and if they did, the aw fans would suddenly love it.

(52:21):
I'd watching. Oh and by the way, and I will
have to show this to Kevin rip Siren the Cat
see you when Heaven one day for two seventy nine
Canadian that is you know. I don't know if you
guys hadn't heard yet, but Siren the Cat, the butthole
showing cat that has been a part of Touny Talk

(52:41):
wrestling from the beginning, has crossed the rainbow bridge this week.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Uh so oh well my.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Thoughts with Kevin his family on that one. So yeah,
Siren Siren is no more so thank you for all
your memories.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
A lot of our takes on a w by me owing.

Speaker 7 (52:57):
Yes yes he or she did.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
I don't remember Sign was a male or for you,
I think Siron was a female cat. But yeah, so
you know, if you guys, uh, you know, if you
tweet keV, you know, let him know you're thinking of
him because Siren was with him for a very long time.
All right, speaking of things that were with things for
a very long time, A w with w b D

(53:20):
maybe not so much. Ready to get into this, guys,
go for it, all right, So here is an interesting story.
Hold on, let me actually pull it up, because I
realized I don't have it.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I have a in the chat I put up about yours.

Speaker 7 (53:41):
Yeah, I'm aware of the article this. I wrote it.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
So there's another one. That's what I was saying.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Uh So.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Warner Brothers Discovery has split into two separate companies as
WBD debt crisis and streaming blows for Strassic overhaul. So,
in a dramatic move that signals to the beginning of
the end for legacy cable conglomerates, Warner Brothers Discovery has
announced play and it's split into two separate, publicly traded
companies by mid twenty twenty six. The announcement, made Monday morning,
marks a stunning rehearsal for a company once seen as

(54:08):
a symbol of a media empire consolidation. Under the restructuring,
WBD will separate into a streaming and studios company led
by current CEO David Zaslov, a guy pictured right here
who definitely knows who Campunk is. And a global networks
guy still don't believe remember One See a Punk was
like David Zaslav calls me one Bill Film like David.

Speaker 7 (54:28):
Zaslov doesn't know who the hell you are.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
And a global networks company which will be headed by
current CFO Gunner Widenfels. The streaming and studios arm will
house Warner Brothers Pictures, Warner Brothers Television, DC Studios, HBO,
and the Max streaming platform, which willsume me be Hbo Max. Meanwhile,
the global networks business will retain cable focused assets, including CNN,

(54:52):
TNT Sports, Discovery Channel, TBS, and other linear networks. Gentlemen,
I don't know if you know this, but AW is
on a you know it's it's it's on a table network.

Speaker 10 (55:08):
It's on tn t EST Sports. To clarify, TNT Sports
is their British or their overseas sports channels. But they're
still in the same company, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yes, yes, So basically what's happening, guys, Warner Brothers Discovery
is splitting itself into two, So Warner Brothers Discovery proper
will be headed by David Zaslov, and that will be
the studio that will be movies that will be streaming
all of that off on its own. Meanwhile, the cable network,
so we're talking TN, T, TBS, CNN, Discovery, all of those,

(55:41):
you know, Warrant Turner Warner Networks spun off into their
own entity, their own separate company. Now I mean for AW,
because AW is on TBS and T and T, but
it is also.

Speaker 7 (55:57):
You know, it's streaming on Max.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Well, you'd have to assume that it is a cable
centric company first, right right.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I imagine considering they just got on Match, that makes sense.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Yeah, the deal is for cable.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
It is a simulcast I think that you know, AW
is very clear they're going to spin off into the
into the cable subsidiary company, which is not going to
be WBD proper. Now, this cable subsidiary is also assuming
the bulk of wbd's debt, which is about thirty eight
or thirty nine billion dollars. So essentially what this is

(56:41):
is you're splitting the the positive assets which are filmed
because they've had some big film hits lately. A Minecraft
movie was them. Superman will hopefully be a big hit
for them. So there have been a lot. There have
been some good hits and streaming wise, they had the Penguin,
they've got Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, They've
got the Harry Potter thing coming up. So there's some

(57:01):
good things on the horizon. The cable companies are what's
sinking them, that being you know, TBS, T and T, CNN,
all of them. I think that they're spinning this this
second company off so they can be like, hey, we're
shutting down CNN and the Warner Brothers stock that goes
into the films and streaming won't tank, right because it's

(57:21):
the other company. So I don't think this company is
going to have the money to throw away that WBD
proper did.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
No, And it's also not correct me if I'm wrong,
But I don't believe Zaslov is going to be involved
with the company.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
That is, he's the current the current CFO is going
to be the CEO over there, completely different guy.

Speaker 10 (57:45):
So the guy who really wanted wrestling or claimed that
he really wanted wrestling on his network is has he.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Ever publicly said that, like because it's all like punk
is like, oh, he calls me one Bill Phil and
Tony's like David.

Speaker 7 (57:57):
Like David Sassel has no earthly idea what aid is?

Speaker 10 (58:00):
I want to say in the press release, in the
press release when they announced that a that they had
signed a deal, I want to say, there was a
quote from daz Off but said like we are very excited.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
And you know, you know who wrote that, some some
intern in the PR department, and David Zasov never saw
it right.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
I'm trying to remember how that works.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
And like guys, I worked in PR departments, I've worked
in marketing. I know this for a fact that that's
how it works.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
Go ahead, awful.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I remember a gentleman who used to have a connection
with Tony Kahan. He had left wb D maybe like
two years ago, and I think through him is how
David's as even new aw existed once he left. I
believe obviously Tony lost his connection there. I wonder how

(58:49):
much of a connection he's going to lose this time
now that he's with Global Network.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
You have anybody who you know.

Speaker 9 (58:55):
But.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
Now I'm awful.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I'm also not saying that they're are gonna suddenly turn
around tomorrow, like AW, we're canceling your contract, because that's
not how contracts work. No AW will stay on this
network for the for the remainder of their contract unless
they unless they have some kind of early out built
into it.

Speaker 10 (59:17):
Yes, that's because the rumor that is going, I'm not
talking about, you know, something from Banana Williams.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
I'm talking about, you.

Speaker 10 (59:24):
Know, is that there may be some performance for you know,
they have to do a certain they have to do
a certain amount by a certain time benchmarks.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
That's the word I'm looking for.

Speaker 10 (59:36):
And also shows can get canceled or get I don't
think that canceling is going unless there is a benchmark thing.
I don't think canceling is But I could very easily
see them on something like Pluto or moved to somewhere
like you know, they could very easily shift them over
to True TV or Pluto or some other subsidiary of

(59:59):
them where they can you know, hide them away for
the rest of the contract and put on three runs
of lawn Orders.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Gentlemen, if if if Dynamite continues, even if it even
if it's plateaued or or at the mark of six
hundred and fifty thousand average for the rest of this
year twenty twenty six is not going to look good
for them, because by then, I'm sure there's going to

(01:00:29):
be a couple of television shows or an event or
what have you that is going to blow away that
number on a weekly basis. I don't know what that is,
but I just know this. We all three know that
Tony Kahan is not going to be writing television that's
going to attract eight hundred thousand people in the next
six seven months. So while Aw's stock is falling, this

(01:00:53):
this shake up a la aol Time Warner is happening
so many coincidence, that's a It.

Speaker 7 (01:01:00):
Is very much like like the All Time Warner thing, even.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Though it's even though it's actually the exact opposite of it,
because All Time Water was a merger, and this is
like pushing the two entities apart.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Opposite extreme though you know what I mean, it's the
it's extream of.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
That oposite, which is almost the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
But look, at the end of the day, you've got shareholders.
You got both these companies can be publicly traded, so
you have shareholders to worry about as well. You have
a stock price for this new company is going to
tank because this company has got thirty eight billion dollars
debt and it's only gonna get worse because there's nothing
on the cable networks that's going to pull them out

(01:01:41):
of that. So I think that eventually that company will
go bankrupt.

Speaker 10 (01:01:46):
Yeah, it made too. I think they made it to
go bankrupt. Yeah, like you know, they made.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
It so that it can that they could get they
could wipe that debt, they could, then they can cut
assets that are choking, like Disney, for all of its faults,
has cut the cable cord basically the Disney Channel. Like
no one cares about it anymore. Disney doesn't care about
it anymore. They're putting no money into it. Everything goes
to streaming in movies the problem. And every other major

(01:02:16):
studio has followed suit on that, except for Warner Brothers,
because they have these legacy cable networks like you know,
like T and T, TBS and CNN. So but they're
just they're just dragging them down. Is it's not gonna
be pretty.

Speaker 10 (01:02:32):
Those networks are not going to be the same as
they are now this time next year because the only
thing that was keeping a lot of them afloat was
the NBA and losing that contract, not having that whole thing,
like TNT and TBS are going to be haven for
reruns here in the next few months because they're they didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Pick up what they did they pick up anything to
fill in the hole. They didn't. I mean, they still
have something.

Speaker 10 (01:02:58):
They still have some NHL stuff, and they still have
some Major League Baseball stuff. But besides that, I don't think,
do you know awful did they pick any in some
college stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
College stuff? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Yeah, yeah, but ultimately you you hit it right on
the nail, right on the head there discs. All it's
gonna take is a rerun of some show or possibly
some new property that they pick up, and if it
performs well over over a long period of time, Wednesday
Night opens up big time, especially in comparison to a

(01:03:30):
six hundred and fifty k fucking rating or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
I'm just saying you.

Speaker 10 (01:03:37):
Right now, yeah, exactly, no, and and and we're not
saying that they're gonna They're gonna put on an episode
of a low order and it's gonna perform better than
aw probably not aw will probably get a better rating,
But that isn't the full story.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
It costs a whole lot less for that episode of
Order to Air than it does for AW to air.

Speaker 10 (01:03:58):
And also the AW viewers aren't going to stick around
after AW to watch whatever, you know, rerun their plane afterwards,
so they'd rather maintain the audience that's going to stick around.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
It's there's a it's a longer story.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Yeah, certainly is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
But my question for both of you while this is
going down, is there any sort of contract reworking with
AEW like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Okay, now, I don't think no, because they still have
a legally binding contract. It's not like when WCW went
out of business, Warner all of a sudden got out
of all of its time big money contracts with people
like Hogan and Stay in Nash like they still had
to pay those out. The contract remains. It's it's they're
not going to be able to unless they have an out, which,
by the way, if Culture Casino was actually still here.

(01:04:40):
This is the WBD deal is something that he knows
quite a bit about, and he talked about it at
length on the pro show today. But I also, guys
want to be against the spreading of misinformation. Yeah, and
there was some misinformation that went around and I called it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:54):
For the second I saw this, I said, there's no
earthly way this is real.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
That was this quote that David Zaslov supposedly said, aw
product at sixty to.

Speaker 7 (01:05:05):
Eighty k viewers on Max streaming service. There's no earthly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Way that's real. This guy is dealing with a major
schism in his company right now, thirty eight billion dollars
in debt, and he's taking time out of his life
to comment on the viewership of Max AW on Max.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
That's not happening, That's what I was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
He has billions writing on Major Motion Pictures, one of
the biggest movie studios on the planet, and he's taken
time out to address the IWC and Dave Meltzer and
BJ Bethel.

Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
That's not happening.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
He has better things to worry about. That's what I
was gonna say with Awful.

Speaker 10 (01:05:47):
When Appel was saying he's either gonna rework the aw contract,
It's like, I think you're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Where's this million dollars going? Like, when you're dealing with
debt in the in the tens of billions, that eighty
million is a drop in the hat.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
And yeah, no, this this quote, in the fact that
it spread and that people were so adamant about, like
I've had. I put on a thing right after.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
And attributed some of it to us as if we
spread it, did they?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
I to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
My name was thrown in there as as sharing this nonsense.
It's not even on my timeline.

Speaker 10 (01:06:37):
At one point someone thought they don't because I'll pull
I posted, excuse me, I posted something like this, and
the actual caption that I had was I need someone
to actually send me this clip before I believe it.
But then yeah, read what I write. They just read the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Thing that's on the screen and they go, why are
you fucking you know.

Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
Well, one of my of my Welcome to My Life
as an entertainment list.

Speaker 10 (01:07:01):
So yeah, I put out a bounty on it because
I was like, if anybody can find this clip and
give it to me, I'll give you whatever shout out
you want on Tony Talk Restaurant because I knew no
one was going to be able to find the clip.
But everyone, this is just as bad as BJ Bethel.
This is just as bad as him.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Yeah, but it's not directing itself.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
The difference between that and BJ this and BJ Bethel
is that there were an army of people coming after
this particular post say like, this is incorrect. We've searched
high and low. We can't find the goddamn quote go
fuck yourself. Whereas Bethel, it was put out there once
and people ate it like chum to.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Sharks or sharks to chum, or however you want to
say it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
But the bottom line is is that one side propagated
the lie, the other side is correcting it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I think, well, the one thing people were trying to
say that this was in one of their earnings calls
or something that I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
Like, no, no, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
They don't bring up aw at the upfront. They're not
bringing up the earnings call.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
No, me was on the earnings call the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
And yes, yes, guys, I am aware that people that
used to be on this show were spreading this information.
Nobody that is currently on this show was spreading this information.
Like I know, people that you know, we've associated with
were spreading it. I am not responsible for the things
that people that used.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
To be on this show do.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
We we said it from the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Very We're like, there's no earthly way that this man
actually said this. Not because it's unbelievable, but because it's
unbelievable that he would take time out of the nuclear
meltdown of a major motion picture studio to comment on
ae w's viewership, Like the worst thing.

Speaker 7 (01:08:57):
We realize how big the entergy world is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
And how little pro wrestling is just a drop in
the pond, let alone a w which is a drop
in the pond of the drop in the pond.

Speaker 10 (01:09:11):
The funniest, the funniest part is that every that everybody
after I posted that, everybody started posting this clip from
the warnings call, and the clip was that he said, uh,
roughly HBO h MAX roughly gets twenty five percent of
television viewership.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
That was the only quote that he said that. So
then everyone's like, that's where he said it, that's where
they're getting. Dude, Yeah, do that math, because it's not
you didn't even stop to do the math.

Speaker 9 (01:09:37):
People.

Speaker 10 (01:09:38):
If he stopped to do the math, that's more than
double this number. Okay, so even that number is some.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
People actually post postulated that number and took a better
guest than sixty to eighty.

Speaker 9 (01:09:52):
Use.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yeah, he was one of the few, also Switchblade and MJ.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
But yeah, that's what the number works.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Out to maybe one hundred and sixty thousand, one hundred
and eighty thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Well yeah, okay, so let's let's talk about you know,
we're saying, oh, this is not but this is this
is not what I thought it was.

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
Okay, hold on, we got we have it.

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(01:11:20):
out to you, my friend. All right, so, uh, let's
see what else happened here?

Speaker 10 (01:11:25):
Then, no, there's nothing else that was that was the
w B D sports is the only thing you took.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
You took away things that were on there that we
hadn't gotten to yet.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Right because I put them up. They were I was
I was trying to put up the Dave segment and
some other stuff went up, so I was taking them off.

Speaker 7 (01:11:46):
There was it wasn't there.

Speaker 10 (01:11:49):
No, that was not about this. There's nothing about that.
I haven't done. I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Don't worry.

Speaker 7 (01:11:54):
I'm just questioning.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Because all right, so the wb D Sports Things US
is the new WD Global Networks company will consider quote
over time, the best place for sports to reside. CEO
David Zaslov says that sports has never really been a
driver for HBO Max sounds like a future strategy shift there,
and that is true. If sports has never been a
big driver, Guys, it's not like he was, like except

(01:12:18):
for AW or except for you know, except for the NBA.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
The five hundred thousand people that are in weekly to
see aew might.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Guys, it is just I mean, this BJ Bethel like
nonsense with the AW max numbers.

Speaker 7 (01:12:36):
I mean, the holes are just getting poked into it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Because here's the thing, guys, WBD exists outside of the IWC,
and occasionally things like this happen that point to the
ridiculousness of this narrative.

Speaker 10 (01:12:50):
So yeah, no note of it makes any sense overall
if you look at everything and the fact that he's
coming out now and it's just like, well, the numbers
came from uh, I don't know. Meltzer said they were real,
and so did Tony, Like, it's like, yeah, they Tony.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Didn't even say it was real. Tony said he didn't
know the fact that Tony was the fact that Tony
was noncommittal about that and said that he didn't know
himself proves that it's fake because if it was real,
Tony would know, because there's no universe where he does
not know what viewership his own show is getting on Max,

(01:13:30):
and he would have said it was real, and then
that would have been the end of it, right, Oh god.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
He said, I thought that was really a real exciting
report for AW By the way, this was three days
after the report come out on April third, and very
consistent with that they've been told conant quote, while the
numbers are close to the vest one of the top
streaming shows and auto tuned, I've heard.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yes, it's not like he completely because at the end
of the day, what's he going to say, Oh no, no, no,
our numbers are way lower than that, like he he
there's no universe where he says that at a there's
no universe where where the everything's great guy comes out
and says, oh, yeah, no, don't worry, no, no, our numbers
are nothing near what they're reporting. Uh so he what

(01:14:24):
he said is exactly what you would have said if
the report was wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Yeah, But how about this, I've not read the report.
That's so a statement as well, and it absolves you
from any sort of shame that's happened today.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
But there there is There is no universe where he's
not being given the performance metrics of his company on streaming.
There's no not even WBD is that dense.

Speaker 10 (01:14:52):
Could also lie? I mean that's always worked lying. I
don't see why people don't lie more. He doesn't have
a publicly traded company. What does the matter if you lie?
So no, it's the numbers ridiculous, the fake numbers ridiculous.
And the only thing we know is that that aw

(01:15:14):
is probably not in the best position right now when
it comes to if not this TV deal, then a
future TV deal. We'll have some Melzer Meltz talks a
little bit later later about we'll have that up. But
it's where he says like, oh, they're gonna be in
a fantastic position when it comes time for bargaining at
you know, at the end, and it's like, how can
you possibly think that? How could anyone on earth think

(01:15:37):
that they are in a wonderful position when it comes
to bargaining or you know, negotiations with this this network
or any other network. I can't imagine them getting on
cable again. I think there's zero percent chance saying up
on cable again because I don't who why would First off,
why would you want to be on cable? What's the
big deal? Why is Tony so obsessed with cable? He

(01:15:58):
would be better on two.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
B because that's where Tony watch wrestling, right, And this
is just Tony marking out for himself. That's really it.
But speaking of things that people marked out for, Guys
World's Collide Triple AWE was this week. Now, it wouldn't
it be funny if now because WWE is clearly like counterprogramming.

(01:16:19):
Aw now, they just do a triple A show free
on YouTube. Every time aaw has a pay per view,
because this show did more than any AW show has
ever did in viewership. So awful here sharing breaking news
just minutes after the triple AWW World's Collude YouTube show ended.

(01:16:41):
It beat every episode of every Dynamite ever. Talk about
reaching a new audience, and that was but it was
just one point one million views. It is now over
three million views. Guys. It is WWE's highest rated YouTube
exclusive show.

Speaker 7 (01:16:56):
Of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
It's look I've been saying for forever, WWE for any
faults that it has, and it has many. But Vin,
even going back to Vince, Vince was always on the
cutting edge of what was coming next. I sat there
at a ww stockholders meeting one time and I watched
Vince say, and this was long before streaming was a thing.

(01:17:21):
He pulled out his BlackBerry from his pocket and held
it up and he said, one day, our entire product
is going to be available through this. And I said, yeah, okay, Vince,
And he was.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
Running stole next jobs.

Speaker 7 (01:17:43):
So he was one hundred percent right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
And and WWE Network was an individual streaming platform for
one specific brand before there was a Disney Plus, I believe,
before there was a peacock. You know, before there was
a Paramount Plus, before there was at HBO Max, it
was WWE Network. They were the first ones out the gate.

(01:18:05):
Now they're starting to put shows directly on YouTube, and
YouTube is the number one streaming platform in the world
by far. Look when you're Donwe and you haven't enough
money to produce things in house, and you have the
ability to produce things in house, and you don't need
network money coming in, you can afford to put a
show on YouTube like this and just soak up all

(01:18:27):
the ad revenue for three million views. That is a
lot of money that came in, a lot of it,
and I thought it was brilliant. I thought it was
a brilliant move to do because YouTube accounts for twelve
point five percent or twelve point four percent of all
streaming according to Nielsen, and that makes it the number
one shilling. Disney Plus for example, is five percent, and

(01:18:50):
that's in like third or fourth place. Netflix is I
think seven and a half percent. HBO Max, by the way,
is one percent, So you know, it's all the way
down like five. So that just goes to show you, guys,
how explosive YouTube's reach is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Yeah, Max Max likes watching those videos.

Speaker 10 (01:19:08):
I don't know if you've received on YouTube, but the
like graph videos where they over time, the time goes
really fast and see the graps move and who gets
to be the number one YouTube channel during what time?
They did it a lot on like Peudie Pie was
fighting with that Indian channel over it. The only sports,
the only sports YouTube channel that shows up on those
things is WWE. Yeah, every other one of them is
like a major entertainment friend or a major YouTuber and

(01:19:30):
then WWE pops in. They are so they're much bigger
on YouTube. Then people understand this was go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Say Mitchell will abou Vince is a booker, say mitchieill
about him as a human being, sand Mitchell abou him
as a wrestler or a businessman. The guy knew where
TV was going. He wanted cable before cable was a thing,
and then he embraced Twitter as social media was taking off.
He went to streaming before everyone else. And now even

(01:19:58):
though he's gone, the WWE is making a push to YouTube,
and the WWE is doing YouTube better than anyone right
now with their omnibuses and they're like just putting all
of the back catalog on YouTube.

Speaker 7 (01:20:09):
It's a brilliant, brilliant move.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Think about this, man, I'm sure they're making as much
money as they would on like a house show just
by hitting point and click on their YouTube channel. That
it's it's amazing the revenue that they could be that
they're getting just simply.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Just from just taking things that already exists and putting
it up on YouTube for free.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
And they're hitting the fans that they want.

Speaker 10 (01:20:37):
When you go on YouTube, you are directly going after
that kind of like nine to twelve year old market there,
and you know the ones that are gonna watch those
short clip videos and then go out and buy T
shirts into all that kind of thing. Those are the
fans that they want right now. And that's exactly who
that targets.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
That's why, you know, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Well, and TNA is taking a TNA is taking a
queue from WWE in this because they're doing pretty much
the same exact thing. I look at the I look
at the aw uh YouTube channel, and I don't see
a whole lot of Yeah, I don't see a whole

(01:21:19):
lot of like omnibuses and things like that, like like
big stories like WWE. You can go on w W
YouTube channel and watch the entire crow Stings saga from
beginning to end.

Speaker 10 (01:21:30):
It's what they should have been doing with the network.
It's what I wanted from the network and didn't get.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Now that's free.

Speaker 10 (01:21:35):
You know, this is why this is why you hear
stories about how Dana White. It's it's so funny to
hear stories about Dana White going to vents back then
and being like, you're throwing money and I cannot believe
you're charging how much ten dollars for WrestleMania Seriously, and
look at them now, you know, they're just there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
They he knew exactly where it was going.

Speaker 10 (01:21:55):
They still have that foresight going on YouTube, and they're
going to continue to be the out of the game
because if for some reason they can't get a television contract,
WWE could probably do a pretty good a pretty good
job running that business off of things like YouTube and
in their own independent sphere.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
You know, that's that's their level right now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
So as we can see here for many at least
World's Collide shatters WB record for largest live audience on YouTube.
Ww and that this is not just saying like this
is all like the people that watched it after went live.
This is the largest live audience WWE's ever had on YouTube. WWE,
part of ty Ko Holdings Group, today announced World's Collide
set a record for the largest live audience in company

(01:22:38):
history for a YouTube broadcast. The event peaked at seven
hundred and sixty four thousand, three hundred and eighty nine
live concurrent viewers across the WWE and ww Espanol YouTube
channels during the main event between l eh Del, Vikingo,
and Chad Gable. Additionally, Saturday's broadcast has been watched by
more than four point one million viewers on YouTube in
the first twenty four hours. On x World's Collide was

(01:22:59):
the number one trending topic globally on Saturday, and WB
generated more than thirty two million social views across all
platforms in the first twenty four hours. In April, w
announced sa position of leading Mexican Lucha Libre promotion Triple A,
in partnership with Mexico based sports and entertainment holding company
Philip or Philippe or or.

Speaker 7 (01:23:16):
I don't know how to say that, but guys, it's
pretty big.

Speaker 5 (01:23:21):
It's really big, man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
And this was on a Saturday afternoon as well. Thinking
about so it was in primetime television.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
It was a great It was a great day if
he were at WWA, like a really really great day.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
You know who.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
It wasn't a great day for he lost his damn
mind during this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
He did, he really did, because.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Lost lost his mind. So he tweeted it, yep, he's
a there are two hundred and seventy thousand people watching
worldwide right now, to confuse it with a Nielsen rating.

Speaker 7 (01:24:06):
In other words, he's trying to do a gotcha.

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Then the then the event started to.

Speaker 7 (01:24:13):
Like yeah, and it was two ten the show.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Yep, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:24:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Then he said so somebody says, so a YouTube pla
was viewed more than a weekly AW show, and he goes,
worldwide number versus US number. US is the world, so
that would be totally incorrect. UK Canada adds two hundred
and fifty thousand, and that doesn't include any other country
nor max any attempted comparing without figuring those outs Pure silliness.

(01:24:39):
And then somebody asked him, so, what's AW Dynamite's worldwide number?
He goes, I don't know, probably one point five million.
AKA that is told directly from your rectum.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
Yeah, now who will challenge him on such an assertion.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
No one, everyone you know, Erica Teffick is up a
good point.

Speaker 10 (01:25:02):
Wouldn't the YouTube number be more accurate than a Nielsen rating?

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
That's what he's trying to say. He's like, He's like, well, well,
this nover sucks and it's not a Nielsen rating. He's
trying to because he's trying to catch it down on
the Nielsen ratings.

Speaker 10 (01:25:15):
Yeah, he can't talk Tolish, can't speak English, so I
don't understand what.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I've learned how to speak his his nonsense, his nonsense. Okay,
So so somebody said, would have been more viewers if
it wasn't on YouTube. I had a hard time finding
the show because I'm used to being on Peacock. He goes,
you two know it was free on YouTube. YouTube is
two point five three billion users per month, peacocks forty
one million subscribers, not a lesser number.

Speaker 7 (01:25:38):
Actually use it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
You mean not all two point five three billion users
of YouTube use it At the same time, Dave, I'm shocked.
But he just can't give them the win. He can't
because not only is it the fact that this is
WW succeeding, but it's WWE succeeding with trip A, which

(01:26:00):
is one of the things that Dave loved. Glucho was
one of his things.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
I never liked Triple A. I was always a big
cml guy. He doesn't now, That's all he says. He never.

Speaker 10 (01:26:11):
He was never really big. Triple A is more for kids,
you know, they're like the right, They're like the w w.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
E of Mexico or whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:26:18):
Uh huh.

Speaker 10 (01:26:19):
You know he was, well, at least that's what happened
when Tony Khan got a deal with c MLS Triple A.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
But we're still gonna believe. We're gonna let him he
never liked.

Speaker 7 (01:26:33):
Yeah, So okay, So.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Why is Dave so hard up thinking that it's it's
hard to believe that one event got more eyeballs watching
it than the other event. And why does it always
have to be like this choppy fuck event with with
the het me up?

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Speaking of choppy in your audio, My god, you said
you sound you sound like you sound like a modern
pot Start using auto tune.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
We got videos down there if you want to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Yes, I do the specifically about the no no one
of them.

Speaker 10 (01:27:15):
The first one is about the WBD situation and the
other one, there were no good videos about Triple A,
the Triple A stuff. The weird thing about the Triple
A videos that I saw was it was a lot
of kind of Alvarez saying like, I didn't think the
number was that good, and then Malter goes, ah, it
was not that good actually, and then that's kind of
just that back and forth for five minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:27:35):
So how is that not good?

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Three million viewers? Because they took four million if you
count Espaniel.

Speaker 10 (01:27:41):
They looked to the number that they got when they
turned on the stream five seconds after it started.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
That's the number they were going off of the whole time.

Speaker 7 (01:27:48):
So right right, so hold on, we got a couple
more of these.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
So Dave giving instructions once again to aw fans on
how to watch the show if you're dr the aw
SH other night manually check. I just checked and saw
it was only recorded the first two hours because he
was listened to as Collision in hours three and four,
and for some reason, the collision didn't record because of
my service, it only records Collision on t I T
and not what it's on TVs.

Speaker 7 (01:28:15):
God, he.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Like, who does this when you're not specifically cheerleading for
the company.

Speaker 10 (01:28:23):
You don't, And I mean, I guess you could say
if he did this for both companies, you could say
that this is something that a wrestling journalist should do.
They should inform the fans of if there's gonna be
any problems watching what they want to watch. But he
didn't go on and give step by step instructions on
how to find ww's YouTube channel to watch World's Clide.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
No, you know, so it doesn't. It literally is obvious.
I mean, he's making it very obvious that he is
one sided. And well you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Can't even like, you can't even say w W is
first one to try doing the YouTube model, because other
wrestling companies like AEW had a YouTube show, had two
of them, right, Dark and Dark Elevation. Yeah, they were
like they did it for years and it did nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
No, they were fun.

Speaker 10 (01:29:15):
I actually kind of liked watching them because you got
to see people we don't normally see.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
They were doing silly things.

Speaker 10 (01:29:20):
It was like it was an interesting look at the
stuff that you normally don't get to see. But in
terms of views and numbers, they did about as good
as like Rampage did when it went to TVs.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
But that's not really saying much.

Speaker 10 (01:29:33):
You know, yeah, but I guess I think this is
also very telling that he doesn't do it for WWE.
Maybe it's because WE doesn't do stupid things like this
where they have to go out of their way to
figure out how to watch the show, right, I mean,
is that Do you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Think that could be part of it too?

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 10 (01:29:53):
I mean, they're just a better run company, so they're
not going to have issues where the DVR isn't going
to record them because they went on for four hours
one night and they're going on four hours again this week.

Speaker 7 (01:30:03):
Are they really doing it again?

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
They have to do this week?

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Oh it's painful, man, that is painful.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
They gave up after like the second hour. They just
completely gave.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Up episode did the audience, So you know. Meltzer commented
on this thing, saying, so much should count. How many
cuts were made in the years prior to TKO ownership,
of the years after the Imaginary fitly to cut people
left and right during the pandemic, whether there are no
indies or other places to work with, the profit margin
was actually higher.

Speaker 7 (01:30:39):
Than and he goes on and on.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Tom, which is Baron Carbon responds saying someone should count
the amount of toxic fans you have created and began nonsense.
You are responsible for the division between fans, ruined storylines,
false reports, tribalism and negativity surrounding wrestling. You are a
black cloud overall wrestling. This is the first time ever,

(01:31:02):
Guys that I've ever liked Baron Corbyn.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Me too.

Speaker 10 (01:31:05):
And this is a guy like Dave was specifically talking
about how bad it is for TKO to cut people,
and he comes up a guy who TKO cut, saying, no,
you are the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Sir, Yes, you are the problem. You and you and
your beating the lies. Speaking of his beating little lies,
Let's take a look at some video footage. Here's Dave talked.

Speaker 7 (01:31:27):
About really good in I'm shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
That he would say that UW is doing really good
late twenty twenty six.

Speaker 16 (01:31:38):
I think they're pretty safe because both sides would want
them and want to keep the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
If they're doing why who would want to keep the ratings?
Every conceivable metric is down, even the pay per view
buys are down.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
We talked over a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:31:57):
He said, if AW is doing good, then they will
want to keep them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Well, yeah, ifs in butts, we're beans and nuts. We'd
all have a happy Gadonka mess.

Speaker 10 (01:32:09):
Like he's about to give some more real deep inside
here though. So when you hear this next part, it'll
it'll all make well.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Well, you know, if AW was doing really, really good,
then they'd want to keep them. Thanks Dave thinks that
insightful knowledge. You know, if if movies make a lot
of money, then they're gonna watch you a sequel.

Speaker 16 (01:32:33):
But pretty bad it wouldn't be good.

Speaker 7 (01:32:37):
But I'm sorry, I have to read it a second.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Did he just say if they were doing bad it
wouldn't be good? Yes? All right, hold on, we gotta
do this again without me stopping it.

Speaker 16 (01:32:51):
In late twenty twenty six. I think they're pretty safe
because both sides would want them and want to keep
the deal. If they're doing pretty bad, it wouldn't be good.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Son of a bitch like I can't even laugh at
He's just so fucking dumb. If they were doing bad,
they wouldn't be good. There's thing that people pay me for.
I'm insight.

Speaker 10 (01:33:20):
I'm waiting with baited breath to find out what would
happen if they're too bad. If it's some possible way
AW does bad, will they get signed.

Speaker 7 (01:33:27):
Well, i'll tell you, I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Tell you what it wouldn't It wouldn't be good.

Speaker 16 (01:33:32):
I think they're pretty safe because both sides would want
them and want to keep the deal. If they're doing
pretty bad, it wouldn't be good. But that would have
been the same anyway. You know, whether this merger happened
or not, because they're at a high enough level that
they have to produce or you know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
First of all, it's not a merger, you fucking idiot.
It's a split, the opposite of a merger. And he's
a polar opposite. Ah, well, you know if he's like
talking about ice and he's like, well, you know this
fire over here. No, it is not a merger. It's
not a good thing. They are literally dumping dead weight.

(01:34:13):
They are cutting there. They are dangling off a mountain
with people pulling them down, and they're cutting the rope
underneath them.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
Do you not get that this is merger?

Speaker 16 (01:34:23):
No merger produced, then they're not gonna get a renewal
at the at the rate that they've got you know produced.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Me.

Speaker 7 (01:34:31):
Well, if if they don't produce, they're not gonna get
a renewal.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Thanks Dave.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
No, No, no renew the rate that they've got.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Right, fourteen ninety nine. Fourteen ninety nine, people, Hey up.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Well, you know, if they do good, then you know
they're gonna get money, and if they do bad, then
they're not gonna get money. We're not as much money,
but they're still gonna somehow be successful, profitable.

Speaker 16 (01:35:05):
Merger happened or not because they're at a high enough
level that they have to produce or you know, if
they don't produce, then they're not going to get a
renewal at the at the rate that they've got you know, produced,
meaning whatever is considered good numbers at the time, not
what's considered good numbers today, but would be considered good
numbers in a year numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Because I'm going to lower the bar so much in
a year. You have no idea. People watched Dynamite last night.
Any table network would be happy with that number.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
The low ones used to be five hundred thousand, I remember,
you know, we kind of had disagreements about that. What
do you think the the number is going to be now?
It doesn't matter because the problem is is that it's
not hitting anything better than it used to be.

Speaker 5 (01:36:00):
When you when you get a product.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
You want something that's better than what you got ultimately
with with.

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
The with the Wrestling Company. They're not getting that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
I don't understand what Davis talking about here. They're not
getting renewed. I swear to you. They're not going to
get renewed.

Speaker 7 (01:36:17):
You've seen that last time too, and then they got renewed.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Yeah, because I was stupid. I still might be stupid.
I don't think there's gonna be anything to renew them.

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
I don't correctly stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Well that's the Yeah, I don't think that these I
don't think that these networks exist in five to ten years.

Speaker 10 (01:36:35):
Yeah, that's the That's the bigger issue is that where
do they go when there is no T N T
and TVs. Who's going to pick them up at that point?
That is because guess what, it can't be Max now right.
I mean it could be, but it's not automatically Max
at this point. If they're splitting up, right, I'm assuming.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Yeah, I mean we don't know, we don't know, we
don't know how to simulcast stuff is going to work.

Speaker 10 (01:36:57):
I mean, I'm sure they'll still be I'm sure they'll
still be Sigmunch, But I'm saying if they were to
stop airing on tn T and TBS, it would probably
have to be a new deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Max probably, Yeah, you know so, but I mean, you
know Max was supposed to have the pay per views too.
We saw that worked out.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
Yeah, they're still coming. They're still coming, Mark, They're still.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Are they are? They still are they actually saying that
the pay per views is still coming.

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 10 (01:37:21):
Anytime anyone asks, like a Melter Beth Alarney of those guys,
they're like, it's just their working things.

Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
Told me what the Marching owners are.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
They don't know how to do pay per view on Max. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
I would love to see Max all of a sudden
do like a paid thing. Has Max never done a
paid thing on its on its service?

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Not in America, I don't believe.

Speaker 10 (01:37:46):
I think there was something that they did overseas with
like Fleacher Report, I think when I looked into it,
but nothing nothing in America.

Speaker 16 (01:37:53):
Okay, change, you know, like the caper members are going
to probably go down because they do every year for
for every ready.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
So lowering the bar preemptively. But I mean she's preemptively
like letting us know what his bullshit's going to be
in a couple of years.

Speaker 16 (01:38:10):
Oh you know, I mean like the numbers that you know,
when people go, like the numbers that Raw does now
would be considered abominable, you know, three years ago, even
a year ago.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
But what Rae is doing right now, it's on Netflix,
you goon. It's a completely different medium.

Speaker 10 (01:38:31):
Yeah, a lot of times when Meltzer talks about the
Netflix numbers too, he gets upset if anybody talks about
like the not he he wants the live numbers. He
wants the people that watched from blank to blank.

Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
And it's streaming.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
It is meant to be watched whenever the hell you
want to watch it.

Speaker 10 (01:38:49):
Sometimes the point it airs at three o'clock in the
morning in some countries, you know it's it's on Netflix,
it's not. And and none of the ratings are all
live because if you look at Yelsen ratings, all that
is live plus one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
Son and that in that case on Max. We should
we should only be counting the simulcast uh viewership right like,
because I'm sure that when you know, Dave would happily
count how many people watch throughout the week.

Speaker 10 (01:39:15):
Well yeah, yeah, and then and then when it goes
because then it stays on forever too, so they could
they could add those numbers up as long as.

Speaker 16 (01:39:22):
They they're not necessarily abominable at all, So you know,
based on the service that they're on.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
That's the nicest thing he said about w W E
in years that their numbers are not necessarily abominable.

Speaker 16 (01:39:37):
So that's that's that's so you have to judge it
based on that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
So well, you know the thing about bumble numbers is
bumble numbers. Yeahoo freaking Yukon Cornelius over here, my god.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
By the way, j R.

Speaker 7 (01:39:56):
Williams here says Marv Dave can't afford Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
No, he can.

Speaker 7 (01:39:59):
That that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
He shouldn't be able to afford it, but he can
because people pay him money.

Speaker 7 (01:40:08):
What else we got and he cuts this? Okay, well
we got this is all right? Well, well we're going
to Brian So.

Speaker 17 (01:40:16):
And see him. Punk comes out and he cuts his promo.

Speaker 16 (01:40:20):
You know, you know what's funny is on the Punk
interview and everything where he goes like, you know, I'm
not working for these billionaires, I'm working for you fans.
And then at the end the end of the interview
it's like he's working for those billionaires, John.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
What you mean you mean like the billionaires that Kenny
Omega works for? Of course, like if you never heard
a Babyface promo before, Dave.

Speaker 10 (01:40:47):
And also, why is it saying that he's working for
the fans if he doesn't go to Saudi Arabia, Because
to me, it sounds like the WWE fans most of
them don't give a shit.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
I don't I know you do, I said most of
the WWE fans. So to say that.

Speaker 10 (01:41:04):
You know, Punk is against the fans and four billionaires.
First off, yes, probably he saw a real hell how
a real company runs, and now he understands the things
that go into make it a real company run and
understands it better.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
So that might have something to do with it.

Speaker 10 (01:41:18):
But uh, you know, I don't think the fans in
the crowd are too upset that they get to see
Johnsen over see him Punk.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
I don't care.

Speaker 10 (01:41:25):
I don't think they care where it is. The only
thing that upset them was that it wasn't in Phoenix
last night.

Speaker 17 (01:41:30):
Right, Sena says, let's do it, but not tonight for
a match like this, you have to follow me to
Saudi Arabia. We're gonna do it. At night of champions
the ball is in your court, Hero, you want a
title match, it's gonna be in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
He could not go.

Speaker 16 (01:41:49):
I mean, if he really wanted to not.

Speaker 7 (01:41:51):
Go, Thank you for that insight, Dave.

Speaker 17 (01:41:54):
Well, this point, he's going, because it's been.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
No he has to go.

Speaker 7 (01:41:58):
I literally have him gun point get on the plane.
Till get on the plane.

Speaker 5 (01:42:07):
Advertised, well, well he was going months ago.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
I had already asked about that based on what you
report it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
But you knew that there's no friggin way, because if
you had heard to see a bunk was going to
Saudi Arabia, that you would have traala lave that out
for months.

Speaker 16 (01:42:24):
His moral stands and beliefs and things, as far as
you know, freedom of choice and lived your life the
way you could, and then what the rules are in
Saudi Arabia. You could make the case he's a hypocrite
for it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
All right, Dave, would you like me to make the
case for all the reasons you're a hypocrite. Of course
he's a hypocrite. Of course he's a hypocrite. But hypocrites
should not throw stones, because you know what.

Speaker 16 (01:42:48):
He believes in in you know, as far as that goes,
is very very different from him.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Right, But Sammy Zain going to Saudi Arabia is completely
fine with you, right, Like, I'm pretty sure Sammy Zain
has got some some bigger issues with Saudi Arabia than
seam Punk does.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Well, you're missing context though.

Speaker 10 (01:43:09):
In that interview where they made this match, Punk made
fun of the rock.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
So oh, so this explains not only not only did
he attack the Young Bucks and have a steel bite
Kenny Omega, but now he's now he's going after Dwayne.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
Right, and you don't mess with Dwayne. We all learned
over there, you know.

Speaker 16 (01:43:29):
But everyone everyone goes from everyone goes for the money,
and and you know they he, like I said, he
is big enough. He could have said no and it
would not.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
Have impacted him.

Speaker 16 (01:43:40):
If you were a mid level guy and you said no,
you would be able to not go, but it would impact.

Speaker 10 (01:43:47):
You like Sammy Zay, Sammy Zain who didn't go for
years and was a mid level guy and ended.

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
Up getting a push and going higher on the roster.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
So yeah, you know, and again this is just him
trying to say things that are common sense.

Speaker 16 (01:44:05):
Trying I know of instances of people who are told essentially,
you know, you don't have to go, you know, and
we're not going to force you to go or anything
like this, but if you don't go, you know, can
we No, we don't know, tell us in a big

(01:44:25):
spot and they still could.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
But you know, so you don't have to go to
the pay per view, but if you don't go to
the pay per view, we can't give you a push
on the pay per view.

Speaker 7 (01:44:38):
Is that the insight that we're getting here.

Speaker 10 (01:44:41):
They put this out as a short, and they if
you're putting this out as a short, why do.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
You let him ramble on the entire time? Like this
is what you show?

Speaker 7 (01:44:51):
Because I think at this point Brian is trying.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Brian is doing to him what Dakota Johnson is doing
to Pedro Pascal. He's just trying to get him destroyed.

Speaker 10 (01:45:00):
Although you're saying slowly poisoning him.

Speaker 16 (01:45:06):
It said, you know what I mean, it's it's put
in your head that you you know, you probably ought
to go. And in his case, it's like it's gonna
get his his match with Johnson in real life, the
one and he has this match, the last match with
him and Sena he's wanted the match on the farewell tour.
So this is where he's gonna go to get the
farewell match.

Speaker 5 (01:45:25):
And that's that's just it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
There's a word that I can't stand that the word
that I can't stand that he says this match, It's
gonna have this match, get a great match. Got off
of What were you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
Saying, yeah, Dave? Is it must be that same?

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
Damn?

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
What was I gonna say?

Speaker 9 (01:45:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Yeah, I don't know what to make of Dave Meltzer
as far as like a journalist like he's he there
are so many people lapping him right now, Chris Van Vliet,
Arry Alwattie, whenever he gets into the wrestling sphere. You know,
so many people. Alfred CoA, I mean, is a better

(01:46:14):
example of journalism than Date Meltzer is. But oh yeah,
that's what I wanted to say. Kevin Apollo perfect example.
Do you think Kevin Apollo wants to go all across
country fucking have to deal with nonsense at his job?
Of course? But he doesn't. And that's what CM punk
is doing. Sometimes you have to do things you don't

(01:46:36):
like to do. Sometimes you have to eat your words.
Sometimes you have to put this shit in order to
pay your bills. And it's not a it's not the
wrong thing. I understand where you believe that he's a hypocrite.
But the demand signed a contract in that contract and said, listen,
we go to Saudi Arabia every year. You're going or not?
And he said, yeah, I guess I'll go. I gotta
pay some bills. I don't know, I don't find a.

Speaker 7 (01:46:58):
Look at the end of the day, there is no
universe here we're seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Punk is not a hypocrite because he was so vocal
about how much he hated this stuff like he was,
so he was so vocal and so accusatory at people
like the mi Is for taking the Saudi money.

Speaker 7 (01:47:16):
And now he's taken the Saudi money.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
So you know, he he does so to give his
right in that one thing, Punk has got to eat
a little bit of crap for this.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Yeah, well, he showed up back to the company that
he said so many negative things about. So I mean,
right there on his face that your point. You know,
like everything afterwards is going to be you know, on
the table as far as hypocrisy.

Speaker 10 (01:47:43):
Yeah, I mean, if Punk was gonna eat crap he
probably should have done it a year and a half ago, too, right, Like,
that's kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
Right, Sam, it is official, guys, and uh well that
s Dave for you.

Speaker 7 (01:48:04):
All right, we got some super chats to get to.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
John Williams checking it for four ninety nine, says, hey, Marv,
looks like you need to activate your hidden Cameron and
the WBD building again to see Tony begging to see
Zaslov again, to stay on the network. I will get
right on that, John Williams Juan Ala Khan for ten
dollars is wait, aw allegedly gets sixty to eighty k?
Wasn't a few months ago the mindless Sickles were celebrating

(01:48:26):
a million views on Max. So by those numbers, they
lost a little over nine hundred kit, Well, they don't
get sixty to eighty k.

Speaker 7 (01:48:36):
That was a fabrication. That was nonsense.

Speaker 10 (01:48:38):
Please don't on that, Please don't on that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
It's just gonna be a screenshot of us with the
with the quote up, not a sound of us saying like, no,
this is nonsense. This is absolutely not true. So he said, wait,
so what was the numbers the counselor was working with?

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
About one sixty How did he come to that. Oh no,
but I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:48:59):
Yeah, the twenty five percent where they said there's of
regular television viewing goes to Max.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
So you'd think if there was a you'd think that
if there was a sports, a live sports show doing
more via Max than on regular TV.

Speaker 7 (01:49:21):
Saslov might have said.

Speaker 10 (01:49:22):
It, Oh yeah, you could imagine because when when NBA
got like eighty six k, they shouted to the rooftop,
you know, I mean they are hiding these numbers, you know,
given that was about a year ago, and Max, I
guess has gotten bigger since then. I'm going to I'm
just gonna assume they have. But I can't imagine aw's

(01:49:45):
getting more. I think counselors numbers probably are pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Close, honestly, around like one the one sixty eight range.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Right right. John Willings for nine says, yes, I did
predict steaming was the future, just like how I knew
cable television was going to be the next thing in
the eighties.

Speaker 9 (01:50:00):
Done on me.

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
Uh yeah, because trip because of the joke from headlock Headlines,
I get it. Forever Runner for one ninety nine is
Triple A's revenge against how Tony treated them.

Speaker 7 (01:50:12):
Uh yeah, probably is right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Because Tony was was notoriously not kind to them.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
Do you think they were.

Speaker 10 (01:50:18):
Talking to w W while they were still in a
working relationship with AW.

Speaker 7 (01:50:27):
No, yeah, probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
You don't think so.

Speaker 7 (01:50:29):
No, I don't think so. I put together.

Speaker 5 (01:50:32):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Conan on his podcast was very close to the best
as far as his deal with Tony Kahn when it
was happening. Now, when it broke off, that's when he
let loose on you know good.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Speaking of speaking of Conan, did you hear him on
commentary on that Triple A show and how how Corey
Graves was so irritated with him.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
They irritated with him?

Speaker 7 (01:50:55):
Oh my god, he was ready to choke him to death.

Speaker 5 (01:50:59):
I think I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
I didn't get that either.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
I know I got I got every time Conyan said
something stupid, which was pretty much every time he spoke
right like he was like he was like what like
you could just hear Corey Graves like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Marv must have heard the other planet uh version of you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
No, I agree, I agree. Conan wasn't good. I don't
think was good.

Speaker 12 (01:51:24):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Wait, I didn't say he was good. I said I'm
saying that Corey Graves wasn't irritated by his presence. I
think the only thing that I noticed that Conan was
doing was that he was being a little long winded
with the history of certain wrestlers and wanting to tell
stories and all that. But I don't think Corey Graves
was necessarily.

Speaker 10 (01:51:44):
I would say, I think I think there are times
where it's sounded like Corey wanted to get his ship
in and Conan wouldn't let him. And I think I
did notice that a couple of times where it seemed
like cone was going on a little too long and
Corey was like, Okay, hurry up, come on, come on on.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
But I would I I didn't picture his eyes after.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
I mean, did you guys, Like during the Legato Phantasma match,
cod Is like, let me tell you two stories real quick, kid, Yeah,
Conan fan. I told him, if he wants to have
huge muscles like Conan, he's got Kruger's Like okay, and

(01:52:25):
then we both knew this guy that died just like
like that was the whole show.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 10 (01:52:38):
I I I don't want to talk too bad about Codan.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
He guess it was.

Speaker 7 (01:52:44):
I mean, he did, he did, he did d M
me specifically to ask him.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
I listened to his podcasts Me Too, what We're good
friends Everyone everyone that follows him gets.

Speaker 7 (01:52:52):
The automated message no just and dose yea and we're
the only ones that John Cena follow on.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
X got it because he posted it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Jake takes on for five dollars is. I was at
RAW last night. Biggest WWE crowd I've seen in that
arena probably ever. The video package that got the biggest
pop mister Iguana. Yeah, but if you put mister Iguana
on TV in the United States, if you put them on,
if you put him on TV fifty two weeks a year,
it's gonna get real old, real fast, just like the

(01:53:25):
way Orange Cassidy got real old, real fast, so.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Yeah, Johnny Cage for five dollars is The WBD split
is like a divorce, only AW is the kid being
made to go live, go live with the deadbeat parent. No,
AW is the goldfish, And they're like, you take the goldfish.
It's only going to live for another for another six
months anyway, Like AW is not one of the kids here.

(01:53:52):
The kids are like CNN and tn T and TBS
that are going to live with the deadbeak. Dad aw
is like people overestimate the importance of a W to
w b D. Most people you probably don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
No, you said it all.

Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
I try to.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
I tried to. No, w b D does not care.

Speaker 10 (01:54:21):
Not only are they the w's goldfish, but the goldfish
that you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
And you don't really even have to feed them, you know,
like just.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
It's great because I don't have any food left.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
Just put them in a room and just let him.
Let him go. Eventually, you can if you want.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
We we just saw this w W E next in line.
So we gott a lot of big time athletes in here.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:54:45):
Look who's on there, Scotty.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
And and uh Mark Henry's Son's on there too.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Wait wait wait so Jacob Henry. I don't so Steiner's
son is not being called Steiner.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
Uh wreck, he's using his real name. These are real name.

Speaker 7 (01:55:02):
Wait his name is Brock. Yeah, oh that's not gonna fly.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
Uh yeah, so we got another Steiner. I mean they
have to do the Steiner cousins, right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
Know how long.

Speaker 10 (01:55:17):
The only problem is the only problem doing Oh yeah,
Titus O'Neil's son's on there too.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
The only problem with wait, the one that you like
kissed on the mouth?

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
Yeah, if you remember that, like Titus O'Neil World's Greatest Dad,
he like goes them to his kid in the front
row and like totally kisses him on the mouth.

Speaker 7 (01:55:33):
And I was like, did anyone else just see that?
He's freaking weird?

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
I got a question, gentlemen, Who's who's the dark horse
on this little list here? Who's the breakout star aside
from the obvious?

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
Oh, the polo kid? Yeah, I mean not the polo kid.

Speaker 9 (01:55:52):
What's it?

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
What's it called? What's the lacrosse The lacrosse kid over there,
number fourt back like a star. I don't know who
that is, but man, look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
So you guy, I don't want to I don't want
to mess with I like how everyone here is like
an elite athlete, like they all have like a legitimate sport.
The gunter would be like, that means you failed at
your sport.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Yeah, not so so.

Speaker 10 (01:56:14):
My problem, my problem with my problem with the Steiner
Cousins thing is by the time he's ready to come
to TV.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
Bron Breaker is gonna be a world champion. No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
I don't think they need to run in the tag division.
I just think they're going to do it at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Yeah, yeah, it'll happen.

Speaker 9 (01:56:29):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
Now, do you actually name Scotty's son Steiner or do
you do?

Speaker 7 (01:56:34):
You not do it?

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
Good question? Do you go breaker?

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
This is professional wrestling? He will be I I could
put money on that. I think they'll They'll change no.

Speaker 7 (01:56:49):
Imagine that they just imagine they just call him brock Breaker.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
I cannot Yeah, I can't. They're not gonna change it.

Speaker 10 (01:56:55):
They have invested too much money at this point and
bron Breaker to unless they do it right now. If
he gets any bigger, he's they can't change it. And
what I speaking of change? Part of it is up
to them, right you know?

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
Didn't. Mariah may get a name change just to somebody
sent me Blake Monroe.

Speaker 5 (01:57:17):
What Blake?

Speaker 7 (01:57:22):
She has arrived. She has arrived in w W, and
she's Blake Monroe.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
Apparently that is a that is one of those triple
H names if I've ever heard one, my goodness, I will.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Mariah Mason okay stepped over.

Speaker 14 (01:57:39):
Here, Okay, okay, I like it all right?

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
Rick Flair, uh, just Rick Flair I guess is the
way I have to introduce this next topic. Do we
start with with the thing that he recently said to
all the haters out there?

Speaker 7 (01:58:02):
Or do we go with the health thing first?

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
I mean the haters happened.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
Yeah, all right, so we'll do it, and we'll do
it in order. So again with you know, my gosh,
with the first letter of every word. There is no
setting on a phone that does this right. Like he
actually has to hit shift every time he posts a
word right to make this happen.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:58:28):
We we came to the conclusion last week that he
was using a Nokia phone where you had to type
with the numbers.

Speaker 7 (01:58:33):
So I just try to be to everybody God only knows.
Spend more money on spilled liquor in one year the.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
People happen in life?

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Well, hold on, So you try to be nice to
everybody and then you immediately call them poor. Where is
this going?

Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
God?

Speaker 7 (01:58:53):
You sloppy, freaking drunk that used to be the greatest
wrestler who ever lived.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
I just try to be a knife.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
In my last mesage to everyone got more money, Yeah,
that's why you continue to hawk all of these You
got all this money, but it all goes to your
nine ex wives.

Speaker 18 (01:59:12):
Of go f yourself native, no comment needed that will
keep commenting because we're.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
Only we got three cents and left in this tweet
to go look with it, actually learn to love it.
Get back to me again.

Speaker 18 (01:59:30):
When you make three million dollars a year at the
age of seven and fix and that's what famous gets.
And by the way, I don't recognize anyone in this
conversation who's famous?

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Like, come on, dude, like someone right there, look at beard.
Your beard goes.

Speaker 7 (01:59:47):
You make three million dollars a year and you spend
five million.

Speaker 10 (01:59:50):
It's true, there's someone famous right there in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
How can you say he's I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Dude, he has just like what is wrong with him?
Like is he just drunk twenty four to seven?

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
I can't it's you know, it.

Speaker 10 (02:00:08):
Was gone there for a while and then as soon
as WW wanted to use them use him for a bit,
and he couldn't. He hasn't shut up since that happened.
He will not stop. It's almost like someone told him
if you want to if you want to get paid,
you're gonna have to do something. And he's like, all right,
I'll tweet this is what we.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
I'll tweet, I'll copy every word woo so that my
ex wives don't know that it's me because they can't
know where to find me.

Speaker 7 (02:00:38):
So I've sky for my words.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Yes, I know that my Rick Flair doesn't sound like
Ric Flair, but Kevin and I have been doing that
twenty years because we always said that it's what his
soul sounds like. Oh my gosh. So remember when Conrad
was like, hey, Rick's got cancer, He's got cancer, got cancer.

(02:01:03):
Well it turns out Rick Clair's got cancer, yes for
the second time, for the second for the second time
in three years, which means when Conrad said it, he
was right.

Speaker 7 (02:01:21):
So I can't believe I'm saying this.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
But Justice for Conrad has just put it in our
private chat.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
Justice for those Beard wasn't anyway credit to the right joke.
And not only that, but.

Speaker 10 (02:01:40):
It's like the whole thing happened last week and it's
almost like he has to He said, I need I
need some redemption. They need to know I have cancer.
That's how I'm gonna I'm gonna get Thank.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
God, he's not an attention seeker like that. Jim Ross
talking about his cancer.

Speaker 10 (02:01:58):
It was in People Maggan he went to People magazine
to tell them he had skin No, okay, And I
don't want to.

Speaker 3 (02:02:05):
I don't want to devalue skin cancer.

Speaker 10 (02:02:07):
I know some people have it very seriously, and it
can be it can be a major, major problem.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
But it feels like he's comparing it to Jim Ross's issue,
which kind of bothers me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:02:19):
Of course he's.

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
Comparing it to Jim Ross's issue because he's just something
stupid and he got called out on it.

Speaker 10 (02:02:24):
Yeah, and like he's trying to make it look like
they're two old friends who both have cancer and are
just joking amongst each other.

Speaker 7 (02:02:32):
Kind then I'll we just we just the best the friend.

Speaker 9 (02:02:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
I said I wouldn't drink, and then of course I
drank and got him fired and now he hates me.

Speaker 7 (02:02:43):
And I said, he's an attention thinker.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
What he said he had cancer, but.

Speaker 3 (02:02:47):
I got it too.

Speaker 1 (02:02:51):
Look, I honestly, like, obviously, I hope he's okay. I
hope Brick Flair's okay. Like, you know, I hope they
they're able to remove his skin cancer. I mean, it's
nothing to joke, it's nothing to like take not take seriously.
But it's just the timing of it and the fact
that he was so adamant that he didn't have it
until it was convenient, Like, what is happening man?

Speaker 3 (02:03:12):
Yeah, you know, like you said, it's not something. It's
not something to joke about. The joke is the timing.

Speaker 10 (02:03:16):
The joke is the y he denied it for so long,
and in the second that something happens where he looks
like a bad guy, he has to come out and.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
Say I have it too, I have it too, And
it's like, come on, man, like.

Speaker 10 (02:03:29):
This is this is the It's I The way I
put it in the group chat was this feels an
awful like a lot like, hey, I have plenty of
black friends kind of you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:03:37):
That's what it feels like to me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
All right, So speaking of j R, Well, you know what,
let's just get into it.

Speaker 19 (02:03:44):
Somebody, Well, can I set it?

Speaker 3 (02:03:47):
Can I set it up a little bit?

Speaker 7 (02:03:49):
I was just going to get into it because I
think it speaks for itself.

Speaker 3 (02:03:51):
But sure he will.

Speaker 10 (02:03:52):
Because there's a little bit of the beginning that he
references wrestler court, and so at the beginning he's gonna
be talking about undertaker. So I just want to say
why he's talking about on the tacker.

Speaker 19 (02:04:02):
Okay, somebody would come to meet Well, I had to
go to this. Hey, take it up the court, get
that great big dead man and you give a discussion
with him because I ain't changing his verdict. Started out
in jest and fun, but it kind of sometimes it

(02:04:26):
went over the line. So we just have to balance
it out as best we can. And but that era
is over. Everybody be calling her their lawyers. I'm serious,
have you calling their lawyers and it wouldn't be something
that the lawyers would recommend that we do and all

(02:04:46):
this other we're just having fun. We're just having fun.
And these guys at that time were on the road
several days a month.

Speaker 3 (02:04:57):
That's what kills me.

Speaker 19 (02:04:58):
Now, I know the almust and AW should never bitch
about nothing and say work a day a week.

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
Stop it. So is he claiming the towns in aw
bitch about their workload even though they work a day
a week.

Speaker 10 (02:05:16):
Yeah, he's talked about it before too, that they that
he hears him complaining about how they have to put
their bodies on the line. And I mean that could
and they may not have come to him personally, but
they do say that constantly online. They talk about you
see will Osprey going off about how he works so hard,
and you see everyone else saying like, we put we
test our bodies out there for you every week.

Speaker 3 (02:05:37):
And that kind of thing, and it's like he's saying, yeah,
well it's once a week, dude, Like chill out a
little bit.

Speaker 7 (02:05:50):
I don't.

Speaker 19 (02:05:52):
I never got that, you know when I started. You know,
here's a tony degree story. Back in my day, the
sheep were afraid of me.

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
Mhm.

Speaker 19 (02:06:06):
Is that too close to home?

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
Kenny Ye eat that brit Alive too?

Speaker 20 (02:06:15):
M hm. So Mick Foley eventually goes on to win
the w a F title. He wins on raw the
beginning of at nine. Obviously you'd had the really unfortunate
about with Dall's palsy the month before, so you weren't.

Speaker 3 (02:06:30):
Is any any of the rest of the there is
more a w stuff. It's it's very.

Speaker 5 (02:06:35):
To call the match.

Speaker 20 (02:06:36):
What was it like to see mec you know, finally
when the title he never thought he'd win, but then
kind of the conflict of the fact that you're not
able to be there to call it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:44):
Yeah, well suck.

Speaker 7 (02:06:46):
What What the hell do you think I loved it?
I love it was the greatest moment of my professional career.
What the hell do you think it was? You allow
me prick.

Speaker 3 (02:06:59):
Probably the tears.

Speaker 19 (02:07:01):
Probably of all the matches that I didn't call, Fully
winning his first WWF title is the one that I
missed out on the most.

Speaker 7 (02:07:14):
And it screw therew roster.

Speaker 19 (02:07:21):
Couldn't do it. The face was hanging, slurring, just terrible.
But I made that for it later on because we
had plenty more mixed up. But that first one has
been sweet, uh and Mike deserves.

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
By the way, Can I just say Michael called an
atrocious job of calling that match, which one easy.

Speaker 7 (02:07:42):
Of the mcfoley wins the world title.

Speaker 5 (02:07:44):
For the first time.

Speaker 7 (02:07:45):
King mcfoley.

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
He went from being the kid on the playground who
gets told you can't do it and just Jerry Lawers
just sitting there like, my god, this sucks. So it
does have my favorite line of you remember how Fully
won the title where Austin clubbed the rock with the
chair and then pulled Folly on top.

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
Michael colcos mankind did it? Make Foley did it?

Speaker 1 (02:08:10):
And Jerry long ago someone cold did.

Speaker 10 (02:08:13):
It Honestly, mar I'm gonna say, pull it here. We're
not gonna get better by Tillia on this one. You
just get the last one.

Speaker 5 (02:08:22):
What does he say?

Speaker 7 (02:08:23):
What does he say?

Speaker 3 (02:08:24):
Just go on? I mean, it's not all.

Speaker 19 (02:08:26):
Right, and I know that you guys remember how he
won the title. Then he sprinted around the ring two
or three times. He was so happy.

Speaker 6 (02:08:36):
That's real.

Speaker 19 (02:08:38):
He's like a little kid.

Speaker 3 (02:08:41):
If this will work.

Speaker 19 (02:08:45):
Slow down, you move too fast.

Speaker 3 (02:08:51):
Well, they cut it out.

Speaker 5 (02:08:53):
That's why I was saying.

Speaker 3 (02:08:53):
It wasn't much.

Speaker 10 (02:08:54):
The very last thing that he said at the very
end on the other on the one that was like
I watched the pull video and then I pulled the flip.

Speaker 3 (02:09:00):
But it was at the very end he said. Uh,
that's what I'm telling all these a W guys these days.
It was just a little thing at the.

Speaker 9 (02:09:07):
End of there.

Speaker 1 (02:09:08):
So uh huh okay, So was that was that?

Speaker 9 (02:09:11):
The on?

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
Was that the only thing that he said about the
a W roster? There was something else, wasn't there there?

Speaker 3 (02:09:16):
Like I said that.

Speaker 10 (02:09:17):
They made it seem like there was a whole lot more,
But it was just that little thing at the end
where he said, And that's why he said something.

Speaker 7 (02:09:22):
He said something during Grilling j R.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
Also didn't he No, no, it was all not on the.

Speaker 1 (02:09:31):
I found it when I said it in the in
the group chat the other day. Uh, hold on, let
me find it. He did a whole thing on Grilling JR.
Like just kind of expanding on a lot of the
stuff he said about the a W roster.

Speaker 10 (02:09:47):
Gosh, darn it, you told because in the group chat
you we're gonna never mind, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
Gonna do this.

Speaker 7 (02:09:55):
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (02:10:00):
Said it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:03):
Here we go.

Speaker 7 (02:10:04):
Oh, okay, because in the ring it's in the Ringside
news article.

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
And then on all right, I'm opening it up because
this site takes forever to load, even with blazing fast internet.

Speaker 3 (02:10:15):
The Ringside article had something from months ago in there. Yeah,
it wasn't relevant because it was from months ago.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
So well, I mean still, it's just it's a pattern
of just how much JR.

Speaker 7 (02:10:24):
Hates a W, which we've always said from the beginning.

Speaker 9 (02:10:29):
So j JR.

Speaker 7 (02:10:32):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
He said? Okay, So weeks earlier on Grilling, Jarry said,
it's funny. The last time I was there, I listened
to I was really curious to hear the office talent
talking and they were like, you know, digging a space
for themselves. The office talent I guess meaning EVPs, and
some aren't.

Speaker 7 (02:10:57):
Not all of them.

Speaker 1 (02:10:58):
All of them had good intent, but god damn it,
some of them didn't. Some of them didn't. Connie, the
talents that work in the office are oftentimes not all
of them, but oftentimes very self serving. I was too.

Speaker 15 (02:11:11):
I was to know you weren't stop it Like he's
he's telling the truth, but then he has to like
make it self deprecating too, because he doesn't want to
get he doesn't want to lose the cushy million.

Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
Dollars a year that he probably makes there yea. So
it's like, JA know, you weren't like, how could you
have been self serving? You were a commentator.

Speaker 3 (02:11:29):
And the other line from that we that we kind
of missed was after the Tony Gia thing and the
one I and the one I pulled there it got quiet,
but he said, he said, is that too close to home?
Kenny prick? You know? He he called Kenny y Omega prick.

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
So, and I look back at my experience, I would
never do that again. I'd like it fire me or
get rid of me, because I'm not going to be
that guy. Tony's people have done a really good job
here lately, if manufacturing the show and producing it, and
there's some good, good people behind the scenes, really really
good people. I'd started territory with them in a heartbeat. Okay,
So he realized that he accident and told this is

(02:12:03):
what happens with Jr. He accidentally tells the truth and
then like realizes he has to go back and babyface
it all because they're just they're getting nailed by their peers,
little potshots. It's like a it's like a Western. There's
a lot of common shaws out there that are using
their guns to do their communication, and these guys are
doing some of that too, not that extreme obviously, but

(02:12:26):
some of that. Like he's trying to be he's trying
to tell the truth while being so political about it.

Speaker 10 (02:12:36):
He no, no, no, and I And it comes with
age a lot of times where you get that I
don't I don't give an f attitude, but you realize
you have a job and you need to pay bills still,
and you have to you know, you can tell he
just wants to say so much more than he does.
But at the same time, what does he do there anymore. Like, honestly,

(02:12:56):
I when was the last time he was around?

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
I just I just really hope he lives long enough
to not be in a w anymore so we can
get another Jr.

Speaker 7 (02:13:04):
Book about how just messed up Aw's.

Speaker 1 (02:13:06):
So I'm sure, like everyone that's ever interacted with Tony
Kahn ever, he has an n d A.

Speaker 3 (02:13:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:13:12):
He didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:13:13):
He didn't make Jim Cornette sign one.

Speaker 7 (02:13:14):
Maybe he did make he did make he did make
Jim Cornette sign one.

Speaker 10 (02:13:19):
He didn't I thought he said.

Speaker 3 (02:13:23):
That's why he wouldn't know.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
That's that's why Cornette has never publicly said what their meeting,
what they said in their meeting, other than the fact
that he.

Speaker 3 (02:13:30):
Told him threatened to. He threatened to last year. I do. Okay,
you're right, I do remember that now, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:13:36):
Yeah, because he had Cornette too. When he asked for
the meeting, Jim Cornette said to him, I'm going to
be the only one that tells you the truth because
I don't want a job from you.

Speaker 7 (02:13:48):
And then he made him sign the NDA.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
So that's all. That's why.

Speaker 7 (02:13:51):
That's why, you know, the only reason why we know
anything about it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
So in other news Mercedes Monet will won another belt,
this time in an A and an indie show in Austria.

Speaker 10 (02:14:04):
That the indie company that the New aw Lady, the
Spider Lady whatever came from.

Speaker 3 (02:14:10):
She went to Austria and won that title.

Speaker 10 (02:14:13):
It's almost like she's preemptively burying her like she said
she's going there to take that title, to be like
you're only getting so big lady.

Speaker 1 (02:14:22):
Uh huh, Well she well, I think she was just
vacationing there and then saw a belt and then she
has creative control everywhere.

Speaker 7 (02:14:28):
That's not WWE, so you know, want take half.

Speaker 10 (02:14:33):
My joke was that they offered a trip to Austria
and she thought it was Australia, so she.

Speaker 3 (02:14:38):
She heard that diamonds from Good Day one.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
Oh I love being down under. Let's throw another shrimp
on the armyos. It's this is also it is not
Monay Mag time, because there is no Monay Mag.

Speaker 7 (02:14:59):
I think she honestly think she's done with it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:02):
But Marv did pay ninety nine dollars, so let's see
with those textars. Marv, let's no, I have not I
have not done that. I'm so awful. You you did it.

Speaker 10 (02:15:10):
You signed up with you did it your own free will.
You were just wanting to talk to Mercedes.

Speaker 2 (02:15:16):
That's that's what I just wanted to do. Imagine whenning
the championship at a cake fair, Like.

Speaker 1 (02:15:24):
I mean, there's there's plenty of you know, indie workers
who have won championships at a cake fair, but they're
not Mercedes Bonnette stood at the highest paid woman in
the history of wrestling.

Speaker 3 (02:15:40):
Did you see her? Did you see her and Tony
eating last week?

Speaker 1 (02:15:45):
That was Oh god, She's sitting at ring sitting at
ringside eating a steak. Why did she think that eating
steak is some big flex Because I remember when she
did that, She did that interview with so called Steve
Boston and she was just like, I ate steak, and
she said it like it was like like it was
a status symbol. I'm like, yeah, I eat steak. To Mercedes,
it's not that expensive.

Speaker 3 (02:16:06):
It was well done, too well done.

Speaker 2 (02:16:09):
It looked terrible looking. I think last week I made
a comment like that looked kind of good, but then
I took a closer look. Who the fuck eats steak?
Well done?

Speaker 10 (02:16:24):
This is supposed to be the biggest women's match in
the history of the company was supposed to be the
biggest show of at least this year, if not all
time in the you know, in a W. And they're
building it up by having them Mariah or Mercedes ate
steak at ringside, and then Tony came out and it
ate her steak.

Speaker 3 (02:16:44):
That's the building.

Speaker 7 (02:16:45):
Tony Storm.

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
Oh, Tony Storm.

Speaker 10 (02:16:48):
Yea Tony Storm came out of the ring and then
she grabbed her steak and she ate the steak because
she's from the forties, and that's what they do.

Speaker 7 (02:16:56):
Is that what they do?

Speaker 1 (02:16:58):
Yeah, I stake where all eat combat.

Speaker 2 (02:17:03):
Guess why she's still chewing on that damn thing. That's
how tough it was.

Speaker 10 (02:17:10):
I also I love the fact that apparently it's it's
it's been said that, Uh, there were a lot of
women in a in a w's actual catering section who
didn't appreciate that she was basically sitting out there being like,
I get paid catering and get on TV at the
same time, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
Appose yeah, Mole said. Mole said that there was a
general consensus in the fact that that was that was
a statement.

Speaker 3 (02:17:36):
Yeah, that's a stop whining.

Speaker 1 (02:17:38):
Basically, she she must be so unpopular in the backstage area,
like it's gotta she's got to be the most unpopular
person there.

Speaker 2 (02:17:46):
Yeah, I think I think she gets back bit a lot.
People like they say hi to her in her face
and as soon as she walks away, she's a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (02:17:57):
John Williams of four ninety nine says, I'm not I'm
not drunk. I'm only drunk when I'm getting the divorced
Blazing Bolts for two dollars, says Marvis improved his Spanish
we Be and Me and Migo grass Gas. So all right, guys,
the last thing I've got for you tonight just presented

(02:18:20):
without comment at wor sound.

Speaker 3 (02:18:27):
Apparently there is no sound. Okay, yeah, that's not that's
not you.

Speaker 1 (02:18:31):
There's just no sound. Just so, first of all, it's copyright.
First of all, yes, it's so. We're at Summer Game Fest.
So all already I'm in the I'm in a bad
mood because this is the show brought to you by
the Dorrito Pope himself, Jeff Keeley, the biggest douche on
the face of the planet. And of course Kenny Omega

(02:18:51):
has got to get him something. This this is part
of the New Street Fighter game, right and they were like,
you know what, They're like, Hey, you know what would
really sell this game?

Speaker 7 (02:19:00):
Wrestler that no one knows wearing women's clothing.

Speaker 10 (02:19:05):
Yeah, this is a season four of Street Fighter or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:19:09):
Yeah, no, that'll sell it. Like if we if we
dress up this guy that only like a very select
group of people actually know, especially like when you consider
that Street Fighter two is the best selling video game
of all time for a long time, or a best
selling fighting game of all time, and you know, our
our fan base is way more than just the aw
fans or wrestling fans in general. And we just dress

(02:19:32):
him up as a girl and we have him prance around.

Speaker 3 (02:19:36):
How much you want to.

Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
Bet the people at Capcom did not come up with this?
This key Omegan's idea.

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
He pitched it.

Speaker 3 (02:19:48):
That's not it's somebody named Ingram Cares. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (02:19:52):
No, that is important because I'm saying it's not even
chun Lee. He didn't get at he didn't get right.

Speaker 1 (02:19:58):
He can't even be cast, he can't even cammy.

Speaker 10 (02:20:02):
Yeah, Roman Reigns is being rumored to star in the
new Street Fighter movie as a as a Kuma. It's yeah,
and Kenny Omega can't get past the C list street
fighter characters in the commercials. You know, I don't think
I don't think he pitched this. I think this was

(02:20:23):
a wherever they wrote this commercial. It just said wrestler
plays Ingrid and that's all that was written. And then
they they they had a casting goll for a wrestler
and Kenny Omega is mister street fighter.

Speaker 3 (02:20:36):
So he's just.

Speaker 1 (02:20:38):
I think he I think he's I think he's just
desperate to be anywhere around video games.

Speaker 2 (02:20:42):
Yeah, because he's got those connections with those developers that
made that shitty game Fight Forever.

Speaker 1 (02:20:49):
Oh gosh, this trust me off all those developers, the
developers will fight Forever, don't have don't have a conduit
to Capcom.

Speaker 2 (02:20:57):
By the way, someone said someone sent me a d
M and they said they asked me a question about you.
They said, when's Marv going to do the Fight Forever
live feet again?

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
I was like, never, No, I didn't. I did my time.

Speaker 2 (02:21:13):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:21:14):
I think I think you know.

Speaker 1 (02:21:16):
You don't go back.

Speaker 7 (02:21:17):
You don't go back to Shank.

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
I love when I love when Marv is yelling. It
just echoes around his house. But the other thing is no.
They remember how you used to go online and used
to show us how many people are playing Fight Forever
at how.

Speaker 7 (02:21:34):
Many people are playing Fight Forever? Like, right now, let's.

Speaker 2 (02:21:38):
Say let's say yes, please, please before you go any further, Marv,
what do you think this?

Speaker 3 (02:21:45):
Uh, I'm gonna go seven.

Speaker 2 (02:21:48):
Oh motherfucker, I wanted that number two. All right, I'm
gonna say nine nine.

Speaker 1 (02:21:56):
You know I'm guys you.

Speaker 7 (02:22:02):
Oh my god, I'm right now.

Speaker 2 (02:22:06):
Is the number zero, Marv?

Speaker 9 (02:22:09):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:22:09):
No? No, it's not zero, it's is it the funnier version?

Speaker 7 (02:22:14):
It's four?

Speaker 3 (02:22:16):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (02:22:16):
Wow, four people in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:22:21):
I'm playing eight Have you Fight Forever right now on Steam?
One of which is probably Anny Omega?

Speaker 2 (02:22:30):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (02:22:35):
Yeah, so to be fair, and it had a twenty
four hour peak of nine players.

Speaker 3 (02:22:41):
Yes, I win.

Speaker 1 (02:22:46):
Oh my god?

Speaker 7 (02:22:47):
Would you when you said when you said.

Speaker 1 (02:22:49):
No, I was like, there's no. Well, I'm like there's
got It's probably gonna at least like one hundred and
I was like, nope.

Speaker 2 (02:22:54):
See this is not Remember mar this is not including
numbers on Max.

Speaker 1 (02:22:57):
So yeah, Max Max Max Max is YAX.

Speaker 3 (02:23:05):
This version of Max is PS five, right, But.

Speaker 10 (02:23:09):
I I'm I'm imagining that this is four people that
all know each other that are in one match.

Speaker 3 (02:23:16):
It has to be like a tag match or something.

Speaker 7 (02:23:18):
It has to be.

Speaker 3 (02:23:19):
It has to be.

Speaker 10 (02:23:20):
And maybe it's just four people that always need there.
Maybe it'll never go below four. Maybe there's four people
out there, never Defender playing it. Yeah, it's it's Dave
Meltzer and Defender and uh, Tony.

Speaker 2 (02:23:33):
Young books, it's Kofi Kingson and Kenny Omega.

Speaker 7 (02:23:37):
Five hundred thousand and four including Max.

Speaker 2 (02:23:39):
Yeah, there you go of this show.

Speaker 1 (02:23:46):
Oh my gosh, amazing, amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:23:51):
Four people, eight point one billion people, I believe.

Speaker 1 (02:23:57):
Like guys, So no, if you've never watched like the
stream of when I played Fight Forever, if you want
to see me just lose my mind, go watch that stream.
I don't know, I don't remember it was here. If
it was on the TV channel, I think it's on
this channel. I lost my shit because it's so bad.
It's just so so like, there's not one redeeming quality

(02:24:21):
about that game.

Speaker 3 (02:24:23):
I got her, you went over it. But we're we're
in a haha phase right now. So can we look
at the Tony Kahan thing?

Speaker 21 (02:24:32):
Oh, this guy says So this guy Melover Troy replying
to Tony Kahan's as a song I wrote was used
as me this year at Kawa's AW entrance theme on
May fourteenth without my permission.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
A third party sold it to AW after removing my
vocals and pressuring me to sign away all rights. I
refused and it aired anyway.

Speaker 7 (02:24:55):
Please make this right.

Speaker 1 (02:24:56):
If that's true and that's verified, Holy shit, is Tony
about that to pay a lot of money?

Speaker 3 (02:25:04):
Do you remember?

Speaker 10 (02:25:05):
This is the time, this is the theme that he
pulled off midway through the mate.

Speaker 7 (02:25:10):
That he says because people on X gave him crap.

Speaker 3 (02:25:13):
Right right, But and apparently.

Speaker 1 (02:25:15):
That wasn't the reason. Apparently apparently he was willing to
take that on the chin that.

Speaker 7 (02:25:22):
People will think that people bullied him into.

Speaker 1 (02:25:24):
Taking it down when an actuality was because he was
using his stolen song. If this is true, and that
guy seems like he's also, that guy seems like he's black.
So he's stealing from black artists. Yes, another rich another
billionaire stealing from black artists.

Speaker 2 (02:25:39):
Yeah, he's on Twitter. He's he had the block his
post or excuse he had the block his account because
he was getting attacked for even exposing this truth. And
apparently this particular app that he's using right here on
the screen has more tweets or postings that verified even more.

Speaker 7 (02:26:01):
Wait wait, wait, who had to block who? Who had
to block who?

Speaker 2 (02:26:03):
This malevar toy gentleman is on Twitter? And he had
to he had to protect his account.

Speaker 7 (02:26:09):
Because because the aw fans were attacking.

Speaker 2 (02:26:11):
Him, yes, for simply putting out the truth about the Tony.

Speaker 7 (02:26:16):
Like this guy stole from me?

Speaker 2 (02:26:18):
Like come on, yeah, and he all he wants is
please make it right?

Speaker 10 (02:26:25):
And who who exactly is Tony Khan doing business with
that would sell him a song illegally?

Speaker 3 (02:26:33):
Because it's not like.

Speaker 10 (02:26:34):
This is a popular artist and this is Tony Khan
is in business with someone who is selling him an
illegal song that they actually pressured someone to sign away.

Speaker 1 (02:26:46):
Because no one looks into anything, No one look there's
no checks and balances anywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:26:53):
No quality assurance, no quality control.

Speaker 1 (02:26:55):
It is run. It is run with the care that
is put into most backyard rests federations.

Speaker 10 (02:27:01):
Yeah, how much you want to bet that in the
next few years we hear about people.

Speaker 3 (02:27:05):
Skimming off the top in AAW.

Speaker 7 (02:27:07):
Oh my god, I mean I don't they're skimming off
the top.

Speaker 1 (02:27:11):
I think they're dipping their hands all the way into
the center employing. These people are fleecing him.

Speaker 10 (02:27:17):
There's got and you know that. But you know there's
got to be someone doing it in an underhanded way,
not because all of the wrestlers are fleecing him already,
like they're already taking, you know, but you gotta imagine
they're some way backstage, like you know, who's just taken.

Speaker 3 (02:27:30):
A little bit at a time, And no one ever notices.

Speaker 2 (02:27:33):
Any football fans out there in the chat. No, apparently
that happened to the Jaguars, I believe last year. Yeah,
two years ago, and I think to the tune of
either it was a two number. It was either two
million or twenty million dollars, but either one, that's too
many millions gone into somebody's pocket.

Speaker 1 (02:27:52):
Yeah, b T twenty three for five dollars says, makes
me wonder what Mercedes will possibly eat during the four
hour dynamite collision this week.

Speaker 7 (02:27:59):
The Pushy's goin to all in is crazy. I mean,
the but she's been getting since she showed up is crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:28:04):
Especially considering that she hasn't moved the uh the needle
one bit Liquid Fox or two thous Comedians is rick
a shit looks even dumber now good? And CWJ one
twenty is if for six years still not a real business.
I'll certainly not run like one.

Speaker 7 (02:28:19):
So it's a business.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
But yeah, holy.

Speaker 7 (02:28:27):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (02:28:28):
All right, guys, that's about it. That's about everything I had,
awful You want to tell five folks about your YouTube
channel and all the stuff that you got going on.

Speaker 2 (02:28:36):
Yeah, man, I'm working on a new episode down I
might have to do some breaking news on this J
Bethel thing. I'm debating on whether to do a real
in depth video on that just depends on how important
BJ Bethel is to my life, which is damn near
or not. But yeah, you can check me out on
YouTube dot com at Awful Wrestling for the next video.

(02:28:58):
I'd like to do Awful Chef by this week. Gentlemen,
you are invited if you have any time. I got
to plan that for this week, and you can also
check me out on Twitter as All Whole Wrestling, aw
FUO Wrestling, and of course every Tuesday at eight pm
Eastern right here on Tony Talk Wrestling Awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:29:19):
My MJG checking in for ten dollars is great coverage
of all the news, especially the WBD agree to disagree
that a Sunsetting company with that much debt wouldn't cut
one hundred and fifty one hundred and ninety million dollars as.

Speaker 7 (02:29:30):
Part of cuts to costs.

Speaker 1 (02:29:31):
I mean, I think they would just not like in
the middle of the of the contract, they can't. Wwe
just cut talent and are rounding errors to them. Yeah,
that's true. Yeah, it'll be It'll be interesting to see
if they have an early outclause. And then MGG for
five says it's fifty fifty if they got the rights
fees and just licensed WBD owned content for cheap as
it goes bankrupt. That's kind of what I think is

(02:29:52):
gonna happen to Like a lot of a lot of
the stuff is just gonna get It's just gonna all
get sold It's all gonna get sold off like an
auction basically, which is what happens when you're completely bankrupt.
Disc until find folks, we can find out more about
you and what you're up to.

Speaker 10 (02:30:07):
Hey, uh, I have a couple of things I was
on All Jake Takes on Twitter space over the weekend.
Cool you can find him on YouTube, or you can
go to Twitter and look for all Jake.

Speaker 3 (02:30:19):
He's not hard to find you search it.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
He was in the chat tonight, so he's a good guy.

Speaker 3 (02:30:23):
Good guy.

Speaker 10 (02:30:23):
He went to roll last night, but I really enjoyed it.
If we want to take a listen and check him out.
He's had me awful and keV on at this point.
So besides that, just tuny this do l O l
is our is our discord, So go hang out there
with us on Fridays and Mondays for raw and SmackDown
and then my uh, we're working on some stuff for
the max out Media YouTube page.

Speaker 1 (02:30:44):
So a wait, wait, wait, wait, he said, everyone on
but me.

Speaker 3 (02:30:48):
Yeah, I was actually gonna I have to send you
a message.

Speaker 5 (02:30:52):
He wants to.

Speaker 10 (02:30:53):
You have to unblock somebody, not unblocked somebody. You have
to follow somebody so they can DM you.

Speaker 1 (02:30:57):
So oh okay, Max out mat stap Media.

Speaker 7 (02:31:00):
When is that coming back?

Speaker 3 (02:31:01):
Max up Media. We're working on stuff.

Speaker 10 (02:31:03):
We have a few ideas going and Max's editing stuff together,
so probably pretty soon. But the thing that you can
do is look us up on any place that you
listen to audio podcasts. If you're on your way to work,
on your way home doing something like that, and just
need something to listen to.

Speaker 3 (02:31:16):
We are on all major.

Speaker 10 (02:31:18):
Platforms as part of the Wrestling Podcast Network and if
you are listening to us on the podcast already, check
us out every eight pm Tuesday at YouTube dot com
slash at two Wrestling.

Speaker 1 (02:31:29):
All right, there you go, guys, And for me, guys,
you know what it is. Check out that parkplace dot
com every single day for all the entertainment news that
should be fun, including movies, TV, video games, and theme
park stuff. Check us out over at Tunytown TV on
Thursday n It's at eight pm Eastern centerd time for
Turning Talk TV. It's our livestream pop culture podcast and
myself cav Trish, Martin Stone, Lorn Connor, Nolan Thunder where

(02:31:52):
we're bringing you guys all of the pop culture news.
It's basically this show. But you know, TV and.

Speaker 7 (02:31:56):
Movies and stuff, so.

Speaker 1 (02:32:00):
Know this are awful, which you know, I do want
to get them on that show at some point. Just
he used to come on Tony Talk TV every once.

Speaker 10 (02:32:05):
Well, me and Nolan kind of you know it rules
each other out. No, no, no, we're too alike. It's
we cancel each other out like we don't.

Speaker 1 (02:32:14):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure that you
run more manly than he does. Though we caught him.
We caught him running on somebody's stream in Epic Universe,
and I played it like eight.

Speaker 10 (02:32:24):
I saw, I saw, Yeah, all right, run I just
don't run.

Speaker 3 (02:32:28):
It works.

Speaker 1 (02:32:29):
So all right, guys, thank you very much, and thank
you very much to A. W. Neckbeard's the wise man
of this chat, uh, the mod extraordinary producer of this podcast.
We love him very Dearly aw Neckbeers do our value
part of his family, and thank you for keeping it
alive there in the chat there tonight. All right, guys,

(02:32:51):
thank you very much for joining us again this and
every week. From all of us here at the Tony
Den Channels. I'm marve in the movie Monster.

Speaker 3 (02:32:58):
Now was Leo Ralf of my thankiny.

Speaker 12 (02:33:04):
Dog, thank you your piece of trash, thank you, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:33:18):
I suppose you want me to say thank you all
what saying thank you?

Speaker 3 (02:33:23):
It is like jobbing thank.

Speaker 4 (02:33:25):
You at message?

Speaker 5 (02:33:29):
Thank you, oh you, thank.

Speaker 1 (02:33:33):
You, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank.

Speaker 9 (02:33:42):
You, thanks for what.

Speaker 3 (02:33:47):
Hi you from all of us here at Tunytown.

Speaker 12 (02:33:50):
Thank you and you was like you, thank you,

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