May 20th, 2025- Black Adam Busts Up AEW Collision!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wish stop.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
You got.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
You might please my sup stop box.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
This up? All right, it is Tuesday night and Tuny

(01:31):
Town and that can only mean one thing. It is
time for the fastest rising pro wrestling livestream podcast on
the Internet today and it's time for Tony Talk Wrestling folks.
My name is Marvin and I'm the Movie Monster, and
I am pleased to bring you back, guys, back here
for another week of wrestling chatter.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And of course you know I can't do I can't
have any chatter or Provolone or Mazzarella or any of
the good stuff without all of my awesome panelists here
with me. And yo, this week is no different, so
let's bring them out. Kevin Apollo, I feel like I

(02:09):
just saw you a couple of hours ago on the
Pro Show because I did that chance my shirt, well,
all right, what you're wearing.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
The the actual Kevin Apollo goes to war gear.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
You know, I have gotten so many comments about our
absolute meltdown at each other on Tonytown TV last week
on Talk TV, where we screamed at each other like
a CNN panel or appears Morgan tonight about the Superman trailer,
and I was like, guys, have you never had the
people were like, oh you and Kevil Camp, like, have
you never had a best friend before? Like this is

(02:44):
Friday night. You're just breathing and pointing at each other.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
That was over before it stopped. Yeah, you know, I'll
call you bro if I want to Broye.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh my goodness. But now we are not talking about
that tonight. We are talking well, we are going to
talk about some DC tonight because Black Adam made a
big splash in the wrestling scene as the Rock has
ruined now the endings of two wrestling shows in the
last month. But we're getting ahead of our slight. I
think I keep it short. We won't actually like invoke

(03:25):
the wrath of the Dennis Leary Gods.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
I'm back. I'm still a picture. Now. I'm doing all right.
How are you guys doing all right?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Doing all right? You're ready to you're ready to talk
about all things wrestling. Yeah, I'm tired.

Speaker 7 (03:40):
Dad had to go to the hospital last night, so
I had to take him. But he's okay, okay, But
I was there till like four o'clock in the morning, so.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
They By the way, guys, never let it be said
that I don't listen to criticism because I have heard
awfuls you know, talking about you know, like how he
doesn't like the video that I put together for his
intros we have. Don't worry.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
I've worked it out. I think I've got one. He's
going to enjoy.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Rock.

Speaker 8 (04:22):
We don't day for that gentleman piece piece of the panel.
First off, Marv, you spent too much time on that
on that intro for me, and no time at all
on the intro for the show. You used last week's intro.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
That was this this said he had everything set up.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Oh, I have it in the thing. I didn't know
you meant like loaded up in the spot that said
intro I.

Speaker 8 (04:45):
Just fifty six weeks.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I was asking you if you've seen the you know,
are you aware of the uh of the intro?

Speaker 8 (04:57):
Does it exist?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (04:58):
No, no, I'll loaded it into the thing. I just
didn't put it where it says. You know, where you
have to you know, like.

Speaker 8 (05:07):
How I switched that around. Yeah, I turn that shit around.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Don't worry, guys. Awful has made an all new intro
for this week. I'll play it right now. I don't

(05:33):
know what I'm seeing that awful, but I don't know
what you see in that Pedro Pascal dance man, but like,
you know, you just seem a little upsets this week.
That's the Yeah, you know what's funny? Like I put
that to a bunch of different songs from my own
amusement today, and that was weirdly the most perfect one

(05:55):
because he does his little like hip gyrations like perfectly
along with the music. Oh, one more time, I coursed off.

(06:22):
I gotta get that.

Speaker 8 (06:23):
That's I gotta get royalties from that song off and secondly,
and secondly, that was goddamn perfect, Marv. That was pretty good,
pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh my gosh, I did so many of them today.
I can't play them because we will definitely get shut
down if I play them all because they're all copyright
music except for that one. But yeah, oh my gosh, no,
hold on, I gotta play it just one more time
because it's stupid blast. I can't get over it.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
This is gonna be a great chapter in the Sikos
Guide to the Rise and Fall Wrestling.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, the Shark.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
We just started playing pee Paul Patro Pascal.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
All right, guys, I'm sure he'll do a wrestling movie
at some point, he's done a movie about literally everything.
So but as you guys know, this is a show
made for you and funded by you. As we when
we play all of our you know, copyrighten music and
stuff like that, we we tend to get demonetized very quickly. So, uh,
in the interest of the show, you know, being available

(07:56):
still and still being entertaining, we've decided to just kind
of like call it on the on the ad revenue
and we can get it. It's great, we can get it,
but if not, we just rely on your generous super chats.
So we take a break between each of our topics
to read your super chats aloud. We do break for
fifty dollars or more. So if you sent it a
super chat on fifty dollars or more, we do stop
whatever we're doing to discuss whatever it is you want

(08:16):
to discuss. But before we get in, let's take a
look at what you guys have to say. Blazing bolts
for five dollars. Last week, I went to Carls Junior
and ordered my cheeseburger combo in my Scott Steiner voice. Well,
I'm sure they appreciated that. Did you? Did you ask
for a I want to peak on top of a peak,

(08:43):
on top of a peak, Sir, we don't sell that here.
This is a Wendy's Oh my goodness Blazing Bolts all
super two dollars. Is the rock out draws aw by
himself hashtag the final bloss Uh, yes, he does, I
bet you. When Black Adam came on, people were like, hey,
Black Adams on and people were like, oh, I didn't
get to see that in the theaters because no one did,
so they all tuned in and ended up getting higher ratings.

(09:06):
But that's just my guess. Liquid Fox for two dollars
Canadian says time moves fast, but on Sunday it'll crawl
two hundred. Just so you know, guys know, if Liquid
Fox does actually donate two hundred dollars at the AWE,
he is doing that to pay back a debt that
he claims that he owes from Tounytown TV, and it
will not count toward the It will not count toward

(09:31):
the the fund to watch the scrum So Blazing Bolts
for five dollars. The real ratings battle is about to begin,
with Sesame Street going to Netflix. Aaw versus Sesame Street
ratings battle coming soon hashedagg Team Sesame Street. I mean yeah,
Team Sesame Street over aw all day every day. Yeah,

(09:51):
except even modern Sesame Street, which you know, is it
needs to be a little less on the identity politics,
a little more on the teaching kids that account. But
you know, uh but yeah, I did see that Netflix
saved Sesame Street and they are doing it in a
way that allows it to remain free on PBS. So
that's pretty cool.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
Mar I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, I must I
must interrupt. Is okay? The Sesame Street deal? When is that?
When did that go down? And does that have any
bearing on like, uh, who's in the god? So many questions,
but I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Uh, Like we found out about it saving Yeah, yeah,
because uh canceled, Yeah, Max, Max canceled it and uh
basically kicked it out the door and they had nowhere
to go. So uh Netflix swooped in and saved it.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Yeah, good good for them.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Max saved it a few years ago when PBS is
funding funding got cut and they put it on HBO
and Max and now they.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Canceled it, so now Netflix is picking it up.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, so yeah, and Max decided that he was going
to move away from the fan only programming. It was
going to move away from kids programming, which I'm assuming
is why they're putting the HBO name back, because I
think most of the reason why they got rid of
the HBO name in the beginning was because HBO was
not associated with family programming. It's associated with Sopranos and
and had Game of Thrones and and and you know,

(11:18):
softcore you know things. So now it's now that's what
Matt is now. Now it's just got soft core wrestling
on it. That form of aw so five dollars is hello. Well,
I hope at nine thirty tuning Talk Wrestling does not
suddenly turn into Captain Marvel. If only Black Adam got

(11:40):
that much love when it was in theaters. Yeah, it
was the most over Black Adam has been since since
it uh since it hit theaters. I saw that movie
in four d X and then I was like, I
never have to see this again. It wasn't terrible, but
you know, it was just the Rock being the rock.
C w J one twenty eight for two dollars, is
if only WBD had wrestling to hype NBA play Yes,

(12:01):
if only if only uh Regina Sharp for ten dollars
is looking for a change on your dinner table, Try
new Blum Gold. Glow Gold Glow Gold glam Meat substitutes
Glom Gold. It's what's for dinner, brought to you by
the Glomgold Insect ranch ad Council. That was a whole

(12:22):
lot that you had, you laid down there, Regina Sharp.
John Williams of four ninety nine says, when the next
time Triple H's gonna give us another opportunity to listen
to his wonderful singing, I mean, I'm assuming you mean
my my Triple H. I don't know. I don't know
if I have any Uh, if I have any Triple
H songs in the pipe, we'll see. Zach k for

(12:44):
twenty dollars is ricochet. I'm leaving WW to have creative freedom.
The creative freedom is getting beat like a jobb or
by to a one legged wrestler who's not wrestled in
a decade, picking fights on X accounts with three followers. Oh,
we're gonna we're gonna talk about Twitter Ricky today because
he had a he had a tussle with our old
friend Alfred, which led to Alfred just eviscrating him.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
That was a tussle that was low key versus the Hulk.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Right, and Ricochet hasn't Ricochet hasn't been seen since or
heard of since. Oh my gosh, he he wrecked him, wrecked,
recked him. Damn me I killed him? But uh, Christopher
Miller for twenty five dollars two talking points. What if
TK breaks the bank and signs Joe Hendry too? Can
you see WWE's greed because AW resurgent, cause an AW

(13:35):
resurgence more superman meltdowns, please. Joe Hendry is very much
already one foot in the door of the w WA.
The Joe Hendry got a taste of sixty five thousand
people at WrestleMania singing his song. He's not going to AW,
I don't think no matter what Tony Kahan h offers him.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Tony fumbled that already anyway.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Oh yeah, and Tony rejected to me fire him.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
No matter how much Tony can pay Henry up front,
In the long run, he will have a much greater opportunity.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
To make money by going to WWE than he does.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
AW. They would not, they would not have done the
things that they have done unless they already have kind
of a preliminary, one of those hurry up and wait
contracts with him. I think so. I think he has
got a contract for when his TNA contract expires.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
Could you imagine how bad they would fumble? Joe Hendry like,
how fat aw will be?

Speaker 8 (14:31):
Yeah, oh, he'd be off TV. It would be so Yeah,
it'd be so bad. We wouldn't even know it was
a fumble. We'd be like just another Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah. BPE checking in for twenty dollars and no message
aka the BPE Special. Thank you, BPE. We appreciate you, buddy.
Andre Adams. For nineteen ninety nine, an indie job guy
literally emailed James Cornette complaining that he called him and
nobody this really happened. This is not a drill. Oh
not only did it happen, Andre Adams. We have it

(15:00):
and we're gonna go through it later on.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
So have you guys heard it? I haven't.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I have not heard it. I heard it was good
so that I was like, okay, good. I won't listen
to it so that I can react to it live
on the air.

Speaker 9 (15:11):
But we have it.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
We haven't edited, we have a paired down version of it.

Speaker 8 (15:14):
Just just play together.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
John John Williams for four ninety nine. Since the Rock says,
that's what I told w BD, no one's watching this ship.
Cut it short and play the best damn superhero film
ever created. And then for some reason they played Black Adam.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
He evenned in his way into DC super Pets. Yeah Adam,
that Black Adam's pet, Bumper Rocky, Please, I know I know.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
JPS for two Dallas says, good god, what did I
just walk into?

Speaker 7 (15:54):
You think he's talking about that video that you played?
Did anybody did everybody see that video?

Speaker 10 (15:57):
Marbh?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's the guy.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
I didn't believe her from the band leader he said,
he said he wants he wants a song back.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Well, is the most exclusive episode ever.

Speaker 8 (16:32):
What's up with the looking of the rainbow stick?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
That's what a lot of people want to know. I'm
assuming it's because the homosexuals enjoy doing never mind.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
Uh oh.

Speaker 7 (16:46):
Concerts in his time, Yes, rainbow Stick is my least
favorite fifty song.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
I think it is Rainbow.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Three people got that chick, and Marv wasn't one of them. Nope,
I did not get one of them, but I understood
that it was a clever reference. Zach k for four nine,
says Meltzer Omega versus Pedro Pascal Rainbow Stick nine stars.
Oh my gosh, yeah, sissy boy slap fight starring Pedro Pascal.

(17:19):
He's in every He's in everything. You might as well
put him in that.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
Phil's got the PWT flutes.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
We need the flavor sticks, the rainbow sticks.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Oh gosh, No, k had big bird wax so he
could secure the money.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh goshquent Fox for two dollars Canadian says, don't worry
about it. Fox. The io you was a joke from
marm Yeah, well we'll see. We'll see Ryan David for
ten dollas his Norm. And of course what he is
talking about there, guys, is that George Went, who played
Norm on Shears, passed away today at the age of

(18:00):
seventy six, So big bucket of win.

Speaker 8 (18:02):
There wait a second, hold on Mark, I mean Mark
Norm George Went and did some other roles that that
the younger folks would know, wouldn't they like I have
a like toy story. Wasn't he in toy story?

Speaker 11 (18:15):
Or no?

Speaker 7 (18:16):
You're thinking about Cliff Claven, Okay you think about yeah, yeah,
the different people.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
I know.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
I know he was the fat white one, not the
white one with the mustache. I know we all looked
like to you, so I.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Have that they were both. They're both in the horror
movie Classic House. George in the first one and then
the Cliff was in the second one.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well none of us know Cliff's name.

Speaker 8 (18:38):
I know, but George.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Also the thirty second anniversary of the final episode of Cheers.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
Isn't that something?

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Is it? Really?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
He died in the thirty second anniversary of the last episode. Wow,
and you're welcome. keV up to that barstool in the
sky Blazing Bolts for two dollars? Is Pedro Pascal must
be a ricochef and he must be. And I think
they have a lot of the same, uh extracurricular activities
that they enjoy. We can just put it that way.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
John Ratzenberger, thank you, Joseph j Alexander.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
John Ratzenberger, Okay, yes, and Ryan Damon two also said it,
so thank you guys for it's always it's always I
always a culture barbarian. Also, I love our guys because
the uh, whenever we don't know something that they tweet
screaming at us or oh they chat scream it at us.
So I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
I was once told I bear a striking resemblance to
Pedro Pascal. Just thought I'd like you, are.

Speaker 8 (19:33):
You yeah the one that we see in every thirty
seconds in this video?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Or what.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Are you chileaning?

Speaker 12 (19:41):
No?

Speaker 7 (19:42):
I thought, I she I was at the hospital. My
nurse told me that one time, and she's like, you know,
you really look like Pedro Pascal. I'm like, are you sure?

Speaker 11 (19:49):
Like?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
What look again? Like? I?

Speaker 6 (19:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
There was that one movie. There was that one movie
where he was bleeding uncontrollably. I'm gulling.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
She was trying to be nice. People are nice to me.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Who do you look like? Wait a second, lick this rod,
it's coming to me. Yeah, one more time. Hey, guys,
I have I have a very serious and important question
for you. Guys. Are you a mark? Do you consider

(20:30):
yourself a mark? Because there if you're unsure, there is
a way to find out. Okay, Vince Rousseau has Vince
Russo has given us the definitive list of ways to
tell if you might be a mark. Let's take a
look Number one.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
Bro First off, point out, I like the fact that
he didn't type it up and like posted type.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
He took a picture of a printed out.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Was on the side of the building, number number one. Bro,
you have convinced yourself that professional wrestling is real. That's
if you've done that. By the way, when you do
the vin.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Sorry, you gotta set it up right. You have to
do the Jeff Foxworthy.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
If you've convinced yourself that professional wrestling is real, you
might be a mark. Okay, so would we rather do
it as Vince Russo or would we rather do it
as Jeff Foxworthy?

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (21:41):
Can you do it as Macho Man he passed on
fourteen years ago today as well?

Speaker 6 (21:45):
You yourself that professional wrestling is real?

Speaker 8 (21:54):
Yeah, professional wrestling.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
If you produce yourself.

Speaker 13 (22:00):
Yeah, if y'are convinced yourself, yoah might be I'm mocking
fuck again.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
We're gonna empty all our voiceovers, Damn bitch. If you've
convinced yourself that wrestling is real, well then hell you're
a mark. You convince yourself that professional wrestling is real.

(22:33):
We're work shopping the show live on the air.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Kay.

Speaker 8 (22:35):
Do you have a voice over?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Do you have like a you can do a good
Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
I've got I've got ah yeah, I know, real quick,
real quick, check it out.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Looks here.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
Hey he's here, fill us in there.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
From a w He's in our chat right now?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh my god?

Speaker 8 (22:58):
Well welcome Holly w Okay.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Still no, I know he's a fan of p w
T and I've never seen him here before, so it's nice.
Nice to have him here. That's cool a.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Mark.

Speaker 14 (23:12):
Hey, you convince yourself that professional wrestling is real and
you mock.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
Me a Mark?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
But first let's hear from our pals over a blue
chew JR. Has your dick hair doing?

Speaker 8 (23:23):
Yeah, that's the one there, Marv.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
That's what sir.

Speaker 13 (23:28):
If you have convinced yourself god professional wrestling is real
and you.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Might be a Mark, can you do?

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Ray Stevens?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Mar Well, if you've convinced yourself my hawks gotcha? Well,
it seems to me that it seems to be.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Fake.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
You might be a mock.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
If you convinced yourself Undertaker is real.

Speaker 15 (24:18):
If Dave Meltzer is your god, then you might be Mark.
And I would know that wasn't it was a Navy seal.
This list was painted with my paint.

Speaker 9 (24:32):
If professional wrestling is the most important thing in your
entire life.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Cactus jack for those of you following, Okay, because I
was lost like a mother. I have never tried to
do a cactus back problem before in my life.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
Oh have you have you convinced?

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Have you?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
That was Robin Williams. It's called Robin Williams last week?
Why did you step stepped outside of wrestling to go
to Robin had We have to ran out of voices,
the three that I do, we're already taken.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Somebody, somebody said we should do a Russian heiress. So
it's like, let's just do whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
A Russian heress. Okay, professional wrestling is the most important
thing in your entire life.

Speaker 8 (25:26):
Bro, I swear to God. Vincent. Yeah, he's projecting because
I don't know anybody troll or otherwise that thinks that
professional wrestling is the most important thing in their life
or real or real like like he's on strike too
right now? Like what are we talking about? A five
year old?

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Right?

Speaker 16 (25:45):
So far.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
My goodness saying do Goldust.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
I don't think I could do a gold dust.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's everybody's gold that's it, everybody's you do your own voice.
If they gets I'll do a gold on Terry. Terry,
I love you, Terry, come here, come to the front
of the plane.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Sorry that was And then when that doesn't work, you
corner a flight attendant and they leave it out of
dark side of the ring. You own a lot of
black shirts with pitt stains.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
Broh got him. Every man, it's gonna say deodorant. Is
that gonna be a here too, because that'll be awesome.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You don't just want to go to wrestling show that
you want to be up.

Speaker 12 (26:56):
There.

Speaker 7 (26:59):
Okay, we wait, no, wait, okay, here's the thing. Isn't
that kind of like every wrestling fan. I mean, why
do you go to a wrestling show? We don't want
to be a part of the crowd, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I think he's talking more about the guys that like
the fans that try to hijack the show. Okay, yeah,
green shirt guy, the green shirt's fine.

Speaker 8 (27:16):
He doesn't know he's awesome.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
Yeah, no problem with green Shirt. If I had that money, dude,
i'd be I'd do it in a hard beat.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I wouldn't. I could think of a million better things
to spend my money on.

Speaker 8 (27:27):
Me and Marva on the same page. Sounds like a hassle.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
It sounds like it sounds like a lot of being
around wrestling fans in a live event situation, and it
sounds like a lot of flying on planes, two things
that I hate.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
We talked about that last week.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yes, not the planes part, but I find there is
not one enjoyable portion of air travel. It is from
from the second you have to get a ride to
the airport to the second you have to get a
ride home. It is an unpleasant experience. I'm top to bottom.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Once I sit down. Between the time that I sit
down and the time that I stand back up on
the plane, I'm fine. Everything else I.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
Can do without a total agreement with you.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Second, no, because I am always around people that are terrible,
Like I am always hyper aware of everyone around me,
and for some reason, I'm always sat next to just
the dregs of society, who who you know their kids
are out of control or or or they're they try
to lean their seat back when they're sitting in front

(28:34):
of me. I literally put my hand up.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
I'm like, no, Marv sat next to Joe and p
Diddy on a plane once here in the middle.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Yeah, you know how you com bat that be the
awful person that's the way he work.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Come in wearing crocs and PJ pants.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
Bring your pillow from home, Bring your pillow from home,
lean that seat back as far as it goes, pull
that out, bang it up down for because everyone else
does it.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
To screw it.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I have come. And then even if you're in the
back of the plane, the second the you land and
the door is open, you get out of your seat,
You climb over that old lady and you check for
the door because you're more important than everyone else. I
have thought of the way that I can get people
to leave me alone on the plane, though if I
just do that, so apparently that might get me the

(29:34):
wrong attention. All right, so you sing along with wrestlers
theme songs at the top of your lungs. Yeah, only
Vince Russo would find that that fan interaction is just
one of the worst things about wrestling. Having fun.

Speaker 17 (29:54):
Yeah, really, you are not there to have fun, bro,
You're there to learn. You're there to let me teach
you about entertainment.

Speaker 8 (30:05):
Let me see if I got Vince Russodell. Vince Russo
does not blow before the show. He does not get
any sort of beers before the show or during the show.
He just sits there like a stump on a rock.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Do you like a stump on a rock? Why? How
did a stump get on a stump on a log?
You're thinking of a bump on a log? I gave
you two strikes?

Speaker 8 (30:30):
How dare you? Mark Kern.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Missed intro? Mark drums?

Speaker 8 (30:41):
He don't get it. He don't get it. Gentlemen, how
much of this do we.

Speaker 7 (30:47):
Think is Vince Russo sour grapes because people weren't singing
along with Attitude Era theme songs when he was writing,
like nobody was saying for you know, the three count to.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Vince to Vince Russo. Wrestling peaked at the Attitude Era,
and it's and the only way to get back to
good wrestling is to be the Attitude era again. Like that,
that's very clear from everything that he sets. If they
didn't sing yeah, if they didn't sing along with the
Attitude Era, then he doesn't want you to sing along now.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
But he's also a Christian and he denounces a lot
of the stuff he did during the Attitude Era.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
That's it, really, that's his gimmick. Is I don't know
if it's true or not, but that's you.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Know, isaa his first book is fascinating because half of
it is written before he before he converted, and in
the last.

Speaker 18 (31:37):
Half was written after ye.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Songs from the wedding singer.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
Actually put notes like like footnotes in the previous chapters,
but how we felt about certain things. It was a
very interesting read.

Speaker 8 (31:53):
It's so crazy because I've got a new bible that's
got a chapter and it called the Book of.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Russo they Dave Meltzer is your god. If Dave Meltzer
is your god, you might be a mark work rate
in fake rest selling matches is important to you. How

(32:20):
how dare you think that matches should be good?

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Well, I mean, do you want to watch a TV
show with bad acting?

Speaker 12 (32:28):
Like?

Speaker 11 (32:28):
What?

Speaker 5 (32:28):
What? What?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
What's his point?

Speaker 6 (32:29):
I don't understand the point they're at all right.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I don't understand why a single wrestling fan watches or
listens to his shows because he has nothing but contempt
for wrestling, and he sayss.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
You know, I you know, I will give him the
work rate discussion a little bit, because half the time
when people are talking about work rate, they don't know
what they're talking about, okay, and then they now they
have invented something called rope work. What the what exactly?
Oh man, the bos have such great rope work, and wow, it.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Is the h and I and I spent it was
so stupid, your brain literally.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
The same that was this gold dust impression that we
were waiting for.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Stupid. When the first time I heard it, I walked
through my entire Let me call the wrestlers I know
who do this for a living and go, has anybody
said this around any of you anywhere any time? And
the response was unanimous, No, that sounds d and up

(33:53):
here they're talking about it. This is a thing.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
Words, you fake, you hate, you hate any form of
entertainment in your wrestling.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
All right, well he's got a point there, I hate
the entertainment wrestling. Well, the guys are like sports do
guys that say sports entertainment like it's a curse. They're
the ones that think that the Jericho MJF musical number
is it was, you know, somehow not sports entertainment, or
the football field match is somehow not sports entertainment, like

(34:29):
it's the definition of sports entertainment.

Speaker 7 (34:32):
But people, wait, okay, where are you. We're on the well, okay,
you hate anything on the bullet point wrestling right. Okay, yeah,
those people are marks. But also the you sing along
with wrestlers Steve Song people are marks, and those are like,
all together would be about one hundred percent of wrestling. Yeah, right,

(34:55):
because the ones that don't want don't want an the
entertainment sing along and the ones you don't want to
name it don't sing long.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
So there you go. There's that's that's everyone. We're all
march people.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
You orgast him over Japanese wrestling, by the way, that
is that is misspelled? This guy is supposed to be
a writer. Also, are you noticing how he's capitalizing random words?
Or you have an organism in your pants? Over Japanese wrestling?

(35:30):
You are opposed to seeing attractive women capitalized for some
reason in wrestling big booty bitches? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 14 (35:45):
Uh you walk around the arena with a championship belt
over your shoulder.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Okay, that's Rush while wearing a shirt of Rush.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Don't people do that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:59):
No?

Speaker 5 (36:00):
What what.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
You're going to agree with Vince Russo on this one?

Speaker 19 (36:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (36:05):
I I hate I hate the bell. Bet we've been
gone far too fast from this, Marv. Do you not
understand that you're not supposed to wear the band shirt
that you're.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Don't go to concerts. I have no idea. You're really
not supposed to wear that.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
Oh yeah, please explain this one to me.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Yeah you know you didn't know that even Okay, yeah
you don't.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Yes, this is explaining an actual thing.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Yeah, this is no.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
You're supposed to wear a shirt of a band that
you like that you want other people to know about.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
You can buy a shirt of the band there and
put in a bag and take it home with you.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
But if you wear the shirt, you know, because there's
no the idea is that you wear shirts to build
awareness for bands.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Not okay, so this is just like legend. Is this
like stuff that's passed down from like your your your
concert going like like trainer at that point, like when
how do you learn? How do you learn this?

Speaker 7 (36:58):
When I started going to two concerts at clubs when
I was like sixteen fifteen years old, of course, the
first one you go to, you wear a band, you
know the band who's there, and then you immediately get
people like yelling at you or calling you a nerd
or something like that. If you go to like if
you go to a punk rock show, like that's where
I was going it's like punk rock show. So they
were all, you say, I believe, I believe you were.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
The guy that's set up in front of the door
was like, hey guys, we're collecting for the band tonight.
It's a ten dollars cover charge. And then you ran home.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
Right, we can't talk about that show anymore. That show
was canceled, not not that I mean it was canceled,
and it was canceled.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
Let's see his concert philosophy from a guy doing meth.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
By the way, if you're if you're a kid, carry
around all the belts that you want to carry around,
but like, yeah, like seriously, are you going to defend it?
Are you here to defend that?

Speaker 11 (37:55):
Like?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Can I Like if I club you in the head,
can I take it? That should be a rule that
you should start bringing.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
If you bring a belt to a wrestling show, you
should be forced to defend it.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
Where can you bring a belt? Though, Like it's a convention?

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Okay, if you're cosplaying as like the macho man Randy Savage,
then fine, where the belt?

Speaker 6 (38:16):
See a convention?

Speaker 7 (38:17):
I think it's okay because number one, you probably want
to get it signed or something, you know, and you
want to get your picture taken with people and hold
the belt and stuff like that. I think I get it,
and you know, and also I don't know. I personally
would never hold the belt. I will say though, that
it was cool when someone else brought a belt and
let Max hold it, and I got to take some
pictures of Max with the belt.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
That was neat.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
I imagine if you're not if you don't have if
you don't have a lot of friends, I bet taking
a belt to a wrestling show, we get a lot
of people to talk to you.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
That's all I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I saw if I saw a guy walking around by
himself with a wrestling belt over his shoulder, He's the
last person I'm saying hello to.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
I got a question, gentlemen. Did any of you guys
when you were younger make your own wrestling championship belts?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Everybody?

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (39:02):
Max made me one three weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Awful, Okay, I got in trouble guy superglued super glued
a paper plate to one of my dad's actual belts
and threw on it.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
I made I made a Stanley cup out out of.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
Wine holders, you know, like the old wine cans that
he used to get to look like Ern's kind of
a little bit that.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
By the way, that wasn't even me trying to be
like a wrestling fan as a kid, because I wasn't
watching wrestling at That.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Was me trying to play Rocky.

Speaker 8 (39:37):
Oh my god, Rocky was.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
I was.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I was Italian in the Northeast. Of course, Rocky was
my hero.

Speaker 19 (39:44):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
Let's see, Rocky is the reason I like wrestling, That's what,
because I didn't know about wrestling until I saw Rocky
three and Thunderlips, and I wanted to see who that was.

Speaker 14 (39:56):
You You rent space free of charge in your mom's basement.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
Oh got him.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
The sources of hilarity. Not to be confused with me,
who read space free of charge at my in law's house,
because it's not the basement. I don't know if he
does or if he doesn't, but I thought I heard
somewhere that he was forced to move in.

Speaker 8 (40:24):
With his in laws.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
You are part of a tribe that loves one wrestling
brand and hates the other wrestling brand. Oh guys, okay,
all right, we're mark.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Well awfully you don't like either technically.

Speaker 8 (40:42):
So yeah, they really do think that I'm like a
big for w WI and it's just not the case.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay, wait, my favorite one you hate Vince Russo ninety
so all of the Spike TV executives are marks. Jim
Cornett's mark. Yeah, Disco Inferno as a mark.

Speaker 8 (41:05):
Shout out to Haman media group, but please do not
tag me in any more viceusso clips on twitrow. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
You are if anyone refers to you as a mark.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Well, okay, what happened between Vincruzzo and this Disco Inferno didn't.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Disco Inferno start like I don't know if it was
just like them, like Josh and each other or whatnot,
but I saw just go Inferno going at him on
X over something while back.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Okay, this doesn't the point where he just tells him
stop watching. No one cares.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
The same dynamic as Kevin and Marv over there same.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
Thing because he's making himself well, he's making a list
saying that if that these are these make you a mark? Right,
So obviously to him, mark is an insult. And then
one of the things is you're offended if anyone refers
to rehearse.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
You as a mark.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
So did he just call himself a mark?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'm not a mock bro. I'm offended by that.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
I mean, it is the N word for wrestling, right,
that's what we've found.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Remember when they tried to say that Dave melts like, yeah,
Dave tried to push Dave Meltzer said that.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
I've saying, yeah, we've played the clip.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, it's like the N word. And I say that
as an old white man who's never been called that before. Yeah, really,
what's up my mars?

Speaker 8 (42:42):
He might have been called a K, but not an N.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
It's a it's our word, it's not your word.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Anyway. Can we talk about all the rappers?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
A bunch of marks asked me, Oh, that's what he says. Yeah,
it's it's it's how he says. It's like how people
used to say Canadians. Oh no, I thought I was
say hold on, hold on, awful cat. Forget that we
said that. You guys aren't supposed to know about that, right.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Yeah, that's something else where I'm asking. It will definitely
be demonetized.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I'll hear it later.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
I'm sure I'd love to watch the nextc but it's
filled with too many marks.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
I got off the traffic by the stupid mark. You know, Mark.
Think the thing about Marx is how lazy they are.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
Always length.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
My property value.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
To Marx got me a gun point right. Well, you
know crime in the country is committed by Marx.

Speaker 8 (43:56):
Sixteen fifty six percent of Mars.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Well you know most of the coast of the violent
crime is Mark on Mark violence.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
Why are all these Marks dating all of our.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
My daughter paying over the Mark and I said, not
on my watch.

Speaker 8 (44:14):
This is their chance, keV.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
So you've got to give it to him.

Speaker 8 (44:19):
Get it all out while you can.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
It's the best I can. They're in basketball, so there
you go.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Well, you know Marks have that extra bone in their leg.
It's why they're such good athletes.

Speaker 8 (44:45):
You're not getting this on j D from New York
of Solomons, So that's what damn sure?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah right, yeah, you honestly I'm sorry doing it, Meltzer.

Speaker 14 (44:58):
You honestly believe that Triple H or Tony Khan a
true bookers of the Year because he thinks he's a
wrestling booker.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Who else Somebody said, my wife left me for a Mark.
Well you know what you go?

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Oh my god, what you go? Mark? There's no stopping That'spark.
Devin is done.

Speaker 8 (45:44):
He must to lung off now. But I'm for it.

Speaker 14 (45:50):
You cried when Cody Rhodes finished his story and beat
Roman Reigns at wrestle Mania.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 14 (46:00):
Having emotions and being emotionally connected to stories makes you
a mark, Samantha. Right, if you're married to Ricochet and
got Shadow band on YouTube, you might.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Be a mark.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Also, wash your hands.

Speaker 14 (46:28):
You make every excuse in the fuck when your brand's
rating is down for the week.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Oh now, mercifully this segments over.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Little miss Muppets. That no respect.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
No, Rodney Dangerfield, We're.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Just how how what is happening.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
The movie? You might be a balk?

Speaker 8 (47:21):
All right, short change.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
Okay, let's talk about for something.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Yeah, that's you, don't Yeah, let's move on to Let's
move on to Twitter.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Twitter Ricky? Uh so? Twitter? Ricky is what our friend
Alfred Canoe now calls Ricochet, and I love the nickname.
It's absolutely perfect.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
Yeah no, because you said it about him and something.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Never mind, So if you, uh so, I guess Alfred
has been criticizing Ricochet, and Ricochet fired back and he
said it's obvious that Alfred is a cancer. It shows
that anyone who claims to love wrestling and then covers
it like he does in fact not love wrestling, but

(48:05):
only wants fame and attention that comes from covering sports.
Dude is a low life.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
And then of course Phil some times goes, this is
objectively retarded.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
What did Ricochet get into the business for to to
like to do the best backflip?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Or to yeah, the best and only be talked about positively?

Speaker 11 (48:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (48:28):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
And so then he goes, you follow more people than
what follows you if fing loser, and Phil goes, yeah,
because I support wrestlers. That's not an own dude, When
to the follower account argument, yeah, it's over lost, You've
already lost.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
Phil, do be following though? That's true?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, because because he likes to follow up you, I don't.
I don't see all right, So here is what Alfred
did in response. We've got a comment on it because
it's it's just perfect, keV. Have you seen this?

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Oh yes, so many times.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
It's perfect to the people who say you're not a
good promo, does that ever get to you?

Speaker 20 (49:15):
People who say a bad promo or who say I
don't know how to talk promos, they hate wrestling.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Those people don't like wrestling.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
And when I do, I'm sorry. Can I do this again?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
We're up live pal.

Speaker 20 (49:28):
When I steal promos, I'm talking from my heart in
my chest. And that's why I'm actually a good promo
because I mean what I say and I say what
I tweet. I'm okay, I'm sorry. I'm not all that
good at talking. Can I just tweet what my feelings

(49:49):
are and why I'm a good promo?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Can you tweet your response?

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Can I just tweet why I'm a good promo? No?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Man, I blew you out to the studio so that
we can have a conversation. I can pay you forty
seven dollars if okay, why Jelly, so you can just
clean look like, oh, it's amazing. It's a lot longer
than that, guys, but we don't want to give it
all away. So head on over to Pro Wrestling Bits
and watch his full video because it's so so funny.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
It's a it's a it's a it's a sneak disc
on Vlad too. By the way, I'm not a fan
of flads, so.

Speaker 8 (50:22):
Yeah, I love the as Mr music in the background, the.

Speaker 6 (50:29):
Lady running in the field and a sun dress.

Speaker 7 (50:31):
Yeah, Twitter, Ricky so who here has actually had interactions
with Ricochet on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I don't think I ever have.

Speaker 8 (50:44):
Dude, he won't touch me. He'll go after everybody else
will not. Not that I'm looking for it, but like, yeah,
he avoids me, like the plague.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
Wow, I'm surprised he's usually Yeah. I think Beard might have.
I know he like walked me for a while.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Beard, I don't, I mean Beard is the wild Boss.
Oh my goodness, Bob, can somebody throw Alfred's channel in
the linked Alfred's channel in the chat because people are
asking about it and I want to make sure that

(51:20):
we send people his way pro wrestling bits. All right,
we got some super chats to get to. John Williams
one on nine says we don't look alike Booker T
with a bad mic O.

Speaker 8 (51:33):
Dare you I know who he's talking about?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Uncultured Barbarian? For five dollars, there is any chance of
us getting a Pascal Meltzer mashup bid and the voiceover
stuff needs more. Dave Schultz.

Speaker 6 (51:48):
Here cow here, are.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
You rum that?

Speaker 8 (51:58):
What what some flimp wrisk lady wrestling tall?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Oh my god, my favorite thing is still at that
home with Dave Chelza He looks the sink and goes,
what is this the city at top?

Speaker 8 (52:13):
The best line ever, it's how.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Quickly did you use that off?

Speaker 5 (52:18):
All?

Speaker 12 (52:18):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (52:20):
Within five minutes?

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Did you wake your wife up to go, like bring
her down to the kitchen and save the line?

Speaker 8 (52:26):
No, she would to kick my ass.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, sure, JJ Gosling for two pounds. Sterling says, in
my opinion, the best wrestling is on YouTube WWE archived.
I love the w WO christ They've been doing these
compilations where it's like, it'll be like, you know, uh,
when Hulk proved that, when Hulkamania proved that it's still ruled,

(52:48):
and it's like the like Hogan's entire run from after
WrestleMania eighteen, or it'll be like the entire crow Sting
thing or the formation of the wolf Pack was the
one I was just watching. It's so good. I love it.
They're doing good stuff.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Pack well.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
I don't think they went into the fall, but they
definitely went into the rise of.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
The wolf Pack. I love the wolf Pack man, yep.
And that's when wolf Pack fell, when Hull Cogan decided
it was too cool and he needed to be a
part of it. Nothing nothing, kills cool like Hulk Cogan
becoming a part of it, right.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
Hogan was cool for about six seven weeks during that
end of the b O run.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Yeah, Haul and Nash were cool. Hogan got the residual cool.

Speaker 12 (53:37):
True.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
True, It's kind of like what this does with us.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Mm hmm exactly. Andre Adams one ninety nine says, isn't
hating Vince Russo a sign of intelligence, one would assume.
But maybe you might be a mark? So Zach Kay
for four ninety nine says Russo goes, Bro, you are
a mark if you pretend to throat goat a rainbow stick.
Bro tend to be a fan of Ghostbusters twenty sixteen,

(54:04):
Bro the patron say that he was a fan of
ghost but just twenty sixteen. I wouldn't have asked.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
I'm sure you would have. Leslie Jones is a beautiful woman.

Speaker 12 (54:17):
She's a tour de force on the screen.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Ricky Murray for five dollars says, didn't Russo write a
concept for a show called bitch Slap in one of
his books? Yep, we we went through the whole bitch
Slap roster on a recent episode, and it is one
of the funniest segments we've ever done with toxic shock.
Uh yeah, it's it's so bad. It's so so bad.

(54:42):
Liquid Fox or two thousand Candians says who's worse, Russo
or Bucky Beaver or Meltzer. Now, Bucky Beaver does not
mean Bucky's, you know, the greatest rest stop on the
face of the planet.

Speaker 8 (54:52):
No, he means.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Kevin Dunne. In terms of damage to wrestling, I would
say Kevin dunnbro plate. But because Kevin Kevin Dunn's damage
to wrestling spanned decades, Vince Russo was in and out
in like ten years.

Speaker 8 (55:08):
My friend Vince Russo, he was caught red handed, whereas
Kevin Dunn got to slide off into the sunset with
his terrible and it didn't It's not like it affected
anything that WW was doing. It was just bad camera
shots everything else. But Vince Russo he was writing bad television.
He was putting it out there as bad television. I

(55:30):
think there was a big difference.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
All be booty bitches and bacon with big movies. For
two dollars is say my name, I will appear good Lord.
I love it. I always love the the avatars. Maddie
for one ye read it as Scott Steiner, now your
mark uh see agreed? Gut for five dollars is love

(55:57):
the show. Will listen to the replay at work. Also
AW coming to Ontario, California for the three hundredths. Haven't
watched AW for a while? Skip? Yeah, maybe skip, I.

Speaker 7 (56:10):
Don't know, it's the three hundred. I hear that the
Ontario show is to have something big planned for it.
So if it's cheap, didn't want to have a fun night,
maybe go out and have a laugh at take some.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (56:32):
Oh okay, go ahead, Sorry, no, go ahead. I was
gonna say I would.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
I was talking about this when I was when I
was out at Backlash, and I don't mind going to
bad shows if they're cheap and I have friends to
go with, because it's just like a little ball. No,

(56:58):
it's just like, you know, it's an alternative going out
to a bar or going to a wrestling you know,
pay ten bucks, go see a wrestling show.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Who cares?

Speaker 7 (57:04):
It'll it'll be a fun time. I don't know, all right,
we'll have ten bucks. TEP does not agree. KEP does
not agree.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I have been to my share of bad, bad indie shows,
and there is the time. When an indie show is
a certain level of bad, you move into some like
alternate time pocket where everything goes to a crawl and
just matches, just keep getting keep something getting added onto
the car as.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
It goes along.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
There's I went to a wrestling show, Yeah right, I
went to a wrestling show with Scranton No Mo.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Tony Alas, uh, go ahead, awful.

Speaker 8 (57:51):
I went to a show in Scranton about I don't know,
fifteen years ago. The thing took place in a garage
and there were thirty people there. It was there my roommate.
My roommate at the time wanted to become a wrestler,
so you know, they allowed him to get into the ring,
you know, and and perform his stupid moves. Now that

(58:12):
I look back in hindsight, but yeah, thirty people at
a show like how do you even survive?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
And something like that.

Speaker 7 (58:19):
I went to a show with a at a skate
park and there were more kids skating than watching wrest.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I've been part of the con for ten dollars, says
why anyone is still listening to Russo, who has said
many times he's quitting anything wrest related. It's beyond me
of course he would have. You're a mark if you
hate Vince Russo. Russo went full t K. Russo was
TK before TK was TK, which is hysterical because they

(58:48):
hate each other. Liquid Fox for two thousand Canadian Yeah
too far, I would stay too.

Speaker 8 (58:56):
Far my Marca's Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
R So.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Now he got the soft a in there though, I
mean like, we're not we weren't we weren't actually like
adjusting the word.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Awful, that's our word, that's not you, John.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
William John Williamses. Remember Russell got upset that Vince didn't
show much emotion when Russell told him he was leaving, Like,
what the hell did you expect?

Speaker 12 (59:22):
Man?

Speaker 8 (59:24):
By the way, keV, I saw that Thomas Sowell poster
behind you, WinCE, whatever.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
You might be a mark if you know who that is?
In the most JJ Gosling for two pounds is when
did Russo become Dice.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
It's like Russell mixed with Dice Clay mixed with Jeff Foxworth.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I'm over him now over here here, Oh my goodness.
All right, taking a break from the super chats to
jump back into the articles. Guys, You know what, let's
talk about our main story of the night. So while

(01:00:18):
a E W collision was going on and heading into
the final half hour. All of a sudden, as we're
heading into the finale of the show, the show just
suddenly kind of cut out and Black Adam came on
finally the rock lest come back to T N T.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
No So.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Walker, I I saw all the Twitter reactions and it
was all gold.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
It was all gold. So people were people were wondering.
If people were wondering this, why don't you walk us
through it? You know it a little bit?

Speaker 7 (01:01:07):
Okay, So it happened at nine or well nine twenty
seven Eastern apparently is when it happened. You can actually
see it. I got the chart from a good friend,
Brandon Thurston, frand of the show, friend of the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Show, Big Fit, the show supporter of everything that we do.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
They were actually bringing upward.

Speaker 7 (01:01:27):
They had nine nine to nine fifteen, They had four
four thirty two K and then they probably would have
gotten back there if they had the extra three minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
But at nine to twenty seven that is when it
got cut off.

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
So at that point, Tony Kahan kind of started panicking
a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
Well he didn't panic it first.

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
He did post this tweet here, Hey, we have a
technical problems with their studio transmission. Sorry for the inconvenience
to all of you great fans, but don't worry. Excuse me,
the show is going to be up on Max. It's
gonna be on, and if you just tune over, like
if you have Direct TV or you have Dish Network,
you can flip one channel down, get to the West

(01:02:12):
stream and it's it's on. It's an entirety on TV
Drama West. He was pretty sure, you know, he's like,
you know what, it wasn't good, but it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
That big of a deal.

Speaker 8 (01:02:25):
Didn't verify nothing did don't confirm with anybody. Just went
and tweeted.

Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
So that's an A that's an eight thirty nine my time,
so that would be nine thirty nine. It's, you know,
roughly twelve minutes after a while. So next one goes
up at eight fifty three and he goes, Okay, if
you go to the TNT drama app, Okay, it's available
on almost everything that has the West Coast feed, you

(01:02:50):
can watch it there and and it'll be available completely
in its entirety on tn T West in Max. After
the show eight fifty three only convinced that that is
going to be what happens.

Speaker 8 (01:03:06):
Incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
That's where we are unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
And then let me see here that it gets Okay,
same thing, so let me go down here. Why are
these all the same?

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
There it is?

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
Oh, because I'm not removing the old one. I didn't
know you had to remove the old one more.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Apparently, let's go back there.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
Then you see you should have let me do this.
Why do you let me do this?

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Because I had to because I had to check on
something work related in the background, and I figured you
could hold the fort down for five minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
If you don't know how.

Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
A mock, I thought you could just go over it.
So then, okay, this this is the third one. Thank
you everybody to watch this A I A W. Sorry
identical issues. You can see all of it on tn
T Drama West or the West table on the tn
T does not mean Max.

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
Anymore on that one. Right then his fourth one came up,
see I removed at that time his fourth one came up.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
Technical issues with the transmission affected the final thirty minutes
of the feet earlier. You can see all of it
if you go to T and T West now or
on the tn T drama app. So he saying it's
on the app, it's on West. This is about ten.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
Minutes after it ended. He did four more tweets in
the next hour. I didn't take all of them. I
just went to this one.

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
And his final tweet was their ongoing transmission issues on
Snake said, and that a collision.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
We were all experienced expecting a full version to play
on TNT Drama West, but right now an ongoing technical
issue that all believed to be fixed is still affecting
the transmission of the final half hour even on TNT West.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Well, apparently collision. Apparently collision.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
It was.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
It was with AOL dial up capabilities.

Speaker 7 (01:05:05):
So we'll get the full show up on Streetball Max
A SAP. I'm so sorry for this hassle. Awful isn't
up on Max.

Speaker 8 (01:05:13):
No, still not on Max. And it's so funny because
I wish I would have screenshot in the sweet But
there was somebody or some entity that uh that belonged
to WDB or WBD or TNT that said like, no,
they didn't breath, like ae W didn't supply us with

(01:05:34):
like a full recording of the show or something like that,
God bless.

Speaker 12 (01:05:39):
I hate.

Speaker 8 (01:05:39):
I hate giving out false information on a no they
did it, okay comedy show, but it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Was on Blue Sky.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
It was on Blue Sky, that's right. And it wasn't
from an official TNT account. No TNT account has mentioned
anything about this true. They're acting like like I was
saying it on mine if if if this happened with
SmackDown in USA, they would have replaced SmackDown three times.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
On USA network and in USA would be sitting out apologies.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
No one on any official TNT thing has put out
anything saying it's going to be air.

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
Here's how you find it.

Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
All your information is coming from Tony Cohn and Dave
Meltzer and the guy from TNT. If you listen to Tony,
he makes it sound like it is tnt' swalt. The
guy from TNT was much more vague about it. He
said something like, I don't think it was on the table,

(01:06:33):
like it was very vague, you know, he could he
was trying to not not say who is at fault.
So it might have been a TNT problem. But I
think Phil actually had the best theory in my opinion,
which is that no one checked the rendering after they
completed the show.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
It's definitely possible. I don't think. I don't think WBD
puts two seconds worth of effort into airing this show.

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
No now, and what does that tell you about the relationship?
Like I know, Awful Awful is convinced that they did it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
I'm convinced convinced idea.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Now, there's no way they torpedoed themselves on purpose because
it just makes the network look bad.

Speaker 8 (01:07:14):
And when was when was WBD interested in making their
company look good?

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Please tell me, well, that's all right, that's valid.

Speaker 14 (01:07:22):
I mean, you do not.

Speaker 8 (01:07:24):
Can we go back to the chart for just one second?

Speaker 12 (01:07:27):
You do not.

Speaker 8 (01:07:30):
As your as your show is growing by leaps and
bounds from three eighty two to four point thirty. You
you look at that number and you're like, and this
is just a guess work based on absolutely nothing. But
my conviction and my gut is that you look at
the fourth quarter and you see three ninety three, and

(01:07:53):
that's where you make the call. Listen this movie or me.
The show is not moving anywhere, folks. They've got minute
by me updates, just like Marv does with this show.
So the bottom line is WBD was just like, we're
not interested in Just remember Collision aired last week with
the same abysmal numbers. So WBD has had enough. I

(01:08:16):
think a phone call was made. You do not show
see see how AW has no contingency plan but WBD
or t n T or TBS does. They were able
to put on Black Adam within seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Well, how do you might it might have been the
next thing that was supposed to air.

Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
Yeah, that's that's that's that's why I give credit to
Phil's idea that it was a rendering issue, because if
they just loaded it up, assuming that it was the
exact right time frame, the next thing that would automatically
roll into is the movie that goes on after. And
the fact that it did makes me think that they
set up a playlist, just like you set up a
playlist on YouTube, right, You just go through and you say, okay,

(01:08:55):
this video, this video, this video, and they know how
long each one is supposed to be.

Speaker 6 (01:09:00):
They fit him in the time slot, and no one
bothered checking the rendering on it.

Speaker 8 (01:09:04):
You say, no one bothered checking the rendering on it.
Do you think AW didn't bother checking the rendering on it?
Because you don't create a no one on. You don't
create a graphic, you don't have a movie ready to
go within seconds. It's almost like wbd knew that they
had ever.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
Like I said, I think it was just a playlist.
I think it was just on their on their program
whatever they use the program television.

Speaker 7 (01:09:26):
The next thing that was supposed to air, if if
if dynamit went off at eight fifty eight Eastern, or
it would go on at eight fifty eight Eastern, just
because it's the next thing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:36):
In that way, they never have dead air, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
No, this is right off.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
I think that you're you're letting your hatred cloud your
judgment here.

Speaker 8 (01:09:46):
Yeah, you guys days because you know how it goes.
It's always a backstory. I think I mentioned this to
to this in the back chat. Remember when Eric Bischoll
was talking about like how people were like slowly coming
into the offices of Turner broughtdcasting and reworking things. This
was months before you could actually see the repercussions of
it on television. So that's what I think is happening now,

(01:10:08):
Like there were things happening behind the scenes, and now
we're starting to get a clearer picture of what's going on.
WBD is sending warning shots, but.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
They probably look at an infomercial with the same amount
of value because clearly no one cares enough about the
show to double check the pre program playlist.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
Yeah, because ahead, And they didn't care enough to try
to fix it either.

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
Yeah, when you awful, when you said earlier you said,
are you saying AW didn't check?

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
Are you saying WBD didn't check.

Speaker 8 (01:10:47):
I'm saying AW didn't check.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Found out, I'm saying cut this mess.

Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
I'm saying neither of them cared enough to check. And
I think that is I think that is worse.

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
I think that is worse because if they were trying,
if they pulled AW to try to send them a message,
that means that they care. They don't care it. They
didn't even check the program they were told and they
haven't mentioned it. I went to the t the t
N t usp R account looking for posts anywhere anything.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Oh, so, w WBD hasn't done like a hey guys,
we're sorry our show got cut off.

Speaker 7 (01:11:26):
And an executive for WBD posted on his personal account
on Blue Sky that's the only thing they've they've said,
and none of them have said anything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
The But like.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
Uh oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):
Anyway, the PR site, you know what the first tweet was.
It was about Jackie Redmond. It was advertising the fact
that Jackie Jackie Redmond from WWE was gonna be on
It was gonna be doing a reporting on a hockey game.
That was the first one on the t n T
PR site over and there was nothing thing about aa
W anywhere. And I did a search on it and

(01:12:04):
there's one post in the history of that Twitter account.
There's one post that mentioned a W. And it was
just like, uh, we have hockey, we have NBA, we
have baseball, and a W and we also have soccer,
you know, like that's what that was the tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
The thing that I enjoyed the most about it though,
was that it gave us a Tony Kahan hissy fit
slowly degenerating into madness thing. And we haven't had a
good one of those in a very long time, yea.
So it's just it's just amazing where he's just like, guys,
don't worry, it's coming, it's coming back. It's gonna be

(01:12:39):
on Max. Okay, all right, So we're gonna skywrite the results.
It's a sky and then we're gonna Okay, so the
plane ran out of gas and crashed into the Andies Mountains.
But we're gonna be doing a different thing over here,
like it's it's just been it was just chef's kiss, deranged, panicked,
whiny Tantry, Tony Kahn and I've missed that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Yeah, and it also shows you that AAW has no
leverage at all. They can't even point like like go
back to the WW comparison.

Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
If this happened with SmackDown on USA, WW would put
out a post blaming USA and saying it is their
fault because they have leverage in that relationship and they
can use this to make more money. AW didn't blame anyone.
They don't have any leverage with WBD at all, nothing,
zero percent.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I'm show that the AAW Minister of Propaganda sounded off
on this disc but a lot of the things that
you had up here are gone they left.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
Yeah, okay, oh that's yeah. The Meltzer segment, Okay, I
can fix that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
You keep going, okay, yeah, No, So Meltzer was trying
to do the same thing like Meltzer and Tony were
essentially cutting the same promo on Twitter just about how
we're gonna get fixed, and they were gonna put it
back on Max and they didn't put it on Mac.
And then Meltzers like, they're putting it on Max right now,
and he gave a he gave a link, and the
link was to TNT, not Max.

Speaker 8 (01:14:08):
They were the only two horns blowing on Twitter about
this entire thing, the only big waves that like, no
other executive aside.

Speaker 18 (01:14:16):
From the but like, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (01:14:20):
How do you not have.

Speaker 8 (01:14:25):
More Like he's the only one that is blasting out
these announcements along with Dave Meltzer.

Speaker 18 (01:14:32):
No one finds that a little strange.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
I mean, it's strange that TNT did not immediately put
up a like, hey, we had technical difficulties on one
of our channels. We're working to fix the situation. We
apologize for any inconvenience that just goes to show like
they they probably didn't even realize that it happened.

Speaker 7 (01:14:56):
They they did put a scroll on the bottom of
Black Adam, but all it said was this is why
its Black Adam is Clayton.

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
It wasn't about you know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Didn't say the word It didn't say the words A
E W one.

Speaker 7 (01:15:11):
No, it did because it said you know, there were
technical problems with aw collisions, so we are airing Black Adam,
you know, like that's all it was.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
That's all it was.

Speaker 7 (01:15:19):
It wasn't It wasn't them taking responsibility or give it
a reason or telling people where to find it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
It was just like, here's what happened.

Speaker 18 (01:15:28):
So wrestle Graphs seems to shout out to Wrestle Graphs.
They seem to believe that Tony Khan threw w b
D under the bus awful.

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
You're quiet?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Oh I am, yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 18 (01:15:42):
Fixed that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Anyway?

Speaker 18 (01:15:48):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I'll yeah, it's it sounds it sounds like you like
already even using your mic anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:15:54):
What's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
A long time, It's been a long time since we've
had to take a break from the show for awful
technical technical issues.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
Yeah, he's been doing pretty good recently. What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
We're about to play Black Adam over awful technical issues
and then people will think that we did it on purpose.

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
I actually I don't know if it's awful because stream
Yard also kicked my other account that I had on
here for all those programs, so there might be something
going on with the stream Yard too.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
To be fair to awful. I don't know if I
should be though awful? Are you? Are you dead? Where
keV go? keV disappeared?

Speaker 18 (01:16:36):
Can can't started sleeping?

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
We have a great time here. Why don't you? Uh,
what can we do? Awful? You're good? How's your mic?

Speaker 18 (01:16:49):
How do I sound? I mean quiet?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Whatever? Whatever? I'm not going to sit here and and you,
you know, sound checks on your mic.

Speaker 19 (01:16:59):
So thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
So do we do we have those melts of tweets?
Or are we just gonna move on my mouth?

Speaker 7 (01:17:04):
I mean it was only one sweet and you explained it.
I'll have it up, but it'll be about five minutes
because I have to well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Know what, it's possible though that maybe like people, we
were reacting negatively to collision online and so then Tony
just cut it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:19):
You think do you think that's actually possible?

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yes, as we saw as he saw the the got
it explained that the theme music the new theme music
here for for mina.

Speaker 7 (01:17:30):
Yeah, they gave me a new theme and people on
Twitter didn't like it, and by the end of the
match she changed they changed it back to her old music.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
And then I love Somebody literally asked him, did did
he check Twitter to see everyone ragging on the Mina
theme and then decided to change it back on the fly.
And he responds, yeah, like really dude, Like why why
are you letting these people know that you're You're like
you're giving them more power or it's not good?

Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
Yep, yep, Tony Kahan, I've said it before. He responds
to bullying. If you want to get something out of
Tony Khan, just bully him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
And eventually getting her contracts.

Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
Yes, more, you know, like John Moxley getting to do
whatever he wants. You know, he cowtows do this stuff.
And I don't you gotta look at the like when
this stuff happens in other places, you don't you have
to give something time for people to like it. You
went to the effort of giving her a new theme song,

(01:18:35):
and you gave it one try.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
It's not like it's not like how many people do
you think legitimately had an issue with it on on
X right?

Speaker 7 (01:18:43):
Even if it was on X those are people on
X okay and it wasn't trending. It's not like the
Internet was blowing up because they hated her theme song.
I looked it was like, I mean, there were a
few people that were like, what where did you do it?
But I think you get that whenever you change anyone's
theme song.

Speaker 8 (01:18:58):
These guys must have a amazing ears because whenever you
watch dynam Might and they do their little intros for
all these wrestlers, you can barely hear the music.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
They don't put it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
Yeah, they don't like it through the TV.

Speaker 21 (01:19:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:19:09):
Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
Yeah the U but the uh, he's so real.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I was gonna say. The cherry on top of this
entire situation is that it was the rock.

Speaker 7 (01:19:26):
I could just imagine, like you know, because I'm sure,
I'm sure, uh meltzer. Meltzer must be torn here, right
because it's good friend, good friend Dwayne got gotta got
to push his movie, but it took away his good
friend Tony, So I don't know, I don't know how
he feels.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
The only thing that would have made this whole experience
better would have been if it was.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
If it was the Marine and it was and it
was John Cena popping in.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
That's the only thing that would have made it better
because it would have made them even more angry.

Speaker 8 (01:20:03):
That is so crazy. Wbd's got thousands of properties thousands
of movies they play black at.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Them, like think about that.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
To be fair, it was what was coming on next?

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Do you remember?

Speaker 7 (01:20:17):
I mean, well, I don't know why we're so surprised
didn't it get both? A few weeks ago for the
Avengers they put it on a different network for these.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
That they did. They did because they were playing an
Avengers marathon. Yeah, so they put it on so, like
you know, they just don't care.

Speaker 7 (01:20:31):
And like I said, the fact that they don't care
is worse than if they were actually trying to send
a message.

Speaker 8 (01:20:36):
That's more evidence from my theory. Actually, the fact that
they're playing superhero movies. They're they're trying to figure out like, Okay,
how's this gonna do? How's this rating gonna go?

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Superhero movies and big bang theory, that's what does it.

Speaker 16 (01:20:53):
Might?

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Yeah, you think that they purposely did it, No, I.

Speaker 5 (01:20:59):
Think they're meant, well, what's gonna work on the time slot?
Because they know that this is a dun and they're
just writing this out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
I wonder if it's like a WBD versus Discovery thing
or if they're all just kind of aligned to being like, yeah,
this isn't doing well.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Like it's the w are the WB guys for it?
And the Discovery guys are like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:23):
I think this will be an instance where they are
all some Pattico because TN, T and T and T
and TBS are one of the only things that actually
makes money. So you know, they're losing the NBA, they're
losing an NBA and it's highly unlikely that they're gonna
want to even want to pretend to try to get

(01:21:43):
to UFC. So now you gotta scramble to figure out
how you stop TNT and TBS from how muching money?
And they know no one's watching this show.

Speaker 6 (01:21:53):
Mmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Maltzer did another tweet where he was like, well, uh,
you know, the show was doing really good ratings wise
until it shut down with no other sports, but you know,
people on Max were probably.

Speaker 6 (01:22:07):
A lot more.

Speaker 19 (01:22:09):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:22:10):
Now that one I do have uh for, But it's
in the Melter segment that.

Speaker 8 (01:22:14):
Was where I would love to know Joseph j Alexanderson
to chat Adam, Yeah, drew five hundred thousand viewers.

Speaker 6 (01:22:24):
Really I didn't really I couldn't find I could.

Speaker 8 (01:22:27):
I know I would about that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Yeah, Black Adam a movie that bombed at the box office.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
Bombed, and it's years old at this point. Yeah, years old.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
It was a year's old movie.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
That was the movie that made Warner Brothers be like,
why don't we just reboot the whole universe?

Speaker 8 (01:22:50):
Fire the Rock and reboot the whole universe?

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Yeah, get rid of the.

Speaker 7 (01:22:53):
Drove the Rock back to professional wrestling. But but it
takes over for professional wrestling.

Speaker 8 (01:23:00):
You know, does it?

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
Though?

Speaker 6 (01:23:04):
Apparently did it? I didn't see the five hundred thousand number,
and like I said, I don't. I can't. I'm never
good about finding other ratings. But yeah, here it is.
That's where he said to go to Max and then
he linked to Tens.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
The rest of Collision in the entire episode is up
on Max at T n T drama dot com, which,
as you know, goes right to Max.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
That's evince he doesn't actually know what Max is.

Speaker 6 (01:23:29):
Yeah, that's just boomer stuff, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
He's gonna stand out above the crowd. So all right, guys,
do we want to where we want to go next?
We want to go to Meltzer or do we want
to go to this this indie guy railing at Jim Cornett?

Speaker 8 (01:23:59):
Yeah, get Meltzer out of the wafers.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Okay, all right, Yeah, I was gonna. I would have
gone the other way, but you guys want to do it,
and so let's do it. I heard the do it,
all right, call.

Speaker 12 (01:24:18):
That for you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
First of all, Dave Meltzer responded to Will Osprey's claim
that WWE wrestlers are not as good as AW guys
in the ring.

Speaker 22 (01:24:28):
Let's get what you had to say, Well, Spray, so
what did you say? Osprey said, we smoked them in
every field of wrestling, like we're just better. I respect them,
I respect every single one of them. They're all vets, they.

Speaker 8 (01:24:39):
Know what they're doing.

Speaker 22 (01:24:40):
They're great at their job, they understand getting people on
their feet. We are so much more of the Better
Wrestling Company than them, Like, our guys smoked them every
single day of the week. They got good guys like Gunther,
got great guys like Ordon, they got good guys like
Chad Gable.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
I respect all of them, but on our worst day,
we smoke all of you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
Guys the worst.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
Okay, first of all, well, lost preson an idiot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Let's let let's let's.

Speaker 8 (01:25:01):
Keep up with this.

Speaker 19 (01:25:02):
No, but I mean, I think AW is better wrestling
than w WE. I think most people that watch both
would say that, But I mean, there are things WWW.
It just reminded me of when Vince.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Mcmahonon, Oh, here we go. I go back to Vince mcmaon,
he has I've been seeing people say this about him lately.
He has v DS. He has viens arrangement syndrome.

Speaker 8 (01:25:24):
Yeah, shout out. Meltzer said, what on?

Speaker 7 (01:25:27):
Yeah, I mean I kind of agree with him that
most people that watch both would say AW is better
because I think way more AEW fans.

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Watch WWE than WW fans watch ADAW.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
So right, I think, you know, I think most AW
fans also watch WWE based on what I've seen, right, dude.

Speaker 8 (01:25:47):
They make engagement farming posts about I've seen pro AW
accounts on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, all of them. Whenever Monday
comes around, whenever Friday comes around, every five minutes they're
tweeting up a video or or something that just happened
on WWE.

Speaker 19 (01:26:04):
So yeah, right, there are things WW does better than
the AW. It just reminded me of Vince McMahon and
Brian Danielson talked. This wasn't when Brian Danielson's still in
w and Vince McMann went to Brian Danielson and basically said,
why are they drawing so well? You know, why are
you know, why are they doing so well?

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Vince has never asked that in his life about AW,
because they've never drawn well.

Speaker 8 (01:26:28):
Right, their peak episode was their first episode.

Speaker 7 (01:26:32):
You know what, I bet he's lumping in the first
all in because I could see Vince colin David like
for the first all in and be like, how the
hell did Cody do that?

Speaker 6 (01:26:43):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
Yeah, Danielson, he was talking Danielson about it.

Speaker 7 (01:26:46):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I can see him doing saying that.
Danielson not calling Dave no dude. Vince called Dave all
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
Yeah, back in like nineties and eighties. It's not happening anymore.

Speaker 19 (01:26:58):
I just don't want to think they line so well,
you know, why are you know, why are they doing
so well? Brian was like, the wrestling is better, you
know what I mean? Both companies have things that they
do better than the other company. There's a lot that
WW is better than AW. I mean as far as
like high end wrestling now, you know, I.

Speaker 12 (01:27:15):
Mean, aw's a way above him and high end wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Hell what you mean. I study this. The rope work
is better, the best rope work.

Speaker 8 (01:27:28):
He's the guy that comes up with these these new
jargon words believe it or not, like work rate, you think,
Oh yeah, definitely. I think Cornet blasted him on that
maybe six years ago on his on his podcast.

Speaker 6 (01:27:41):
Do you think he workshops it?

Speaker 7 (01:27:43):
Yeah, he's like he has like a notebook filled with
like workshop you know, I mean the work rate and
all the little.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
Terms and he comes up up with and repeats him
over and over and see if he hears them working.
And he decided got to be where.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
They're hearing things.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Yeah, that's that's got to be where they're hearing things
like rope work from.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
It's got to come from him.

Speaker 8 (01:28:01):
Doll chat, GPT tell me more about rope work.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
I study this, all right. So we have a Roddy
Piper clip about Dave Meltzer, right, yes, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Let's see the glot brawl with Dustin Rhodes lost his
knuckle on his head, tough kid, and then he got
in this Cadillac baseball bat my normal odds and uh,
Dustin was going to drive that Cadillac was done the
Disney lot and he needed to.

Speaker 6 (01:28:34):
Turn the corner, and he wanted to get out of
that corner as fast as he could.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
And you know, obviously I knew he was coming at me.
I was going to get out of the way, and
I just looked at the car and I just said,
fuck it. The only thing I was afraid of it
I thought I was.

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
Going to go under the Cadillac.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
So I thought, nah, as soon as it comes, I'll
hit it hard and at least I'll get up on it.
So the bottom line, boom boomp, meltzer.

Speaker 6 (01:28:56):
Ninety nine point sure it was a stunt man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Wrong again, And if you look at the feasts of work,
there's no cut.

Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
It's one shot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
You can't do that, Yo, fucking Laura. I love I'm
missing so much. I missed him every day.

Speaker 6 (01:29:18):
You gotta clip that, We gotta clip that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Yeah, fad, But oh my god. Seriously, though, if you
haven't seen that match, by the way, it's awesome. Roddy's right,
there is no cut. I'm ninety nine point nine percent
sure that was a stunt man. Like, come on, man,
you really think they would have been like, hey, rod,

(01:29:42):
we're gonna we're gonna put a stunt man in here.
And he would have been okay with it. Yeah, it
looked like no ankle when he got hit by that car.

Speaker 12 (01:29:49):
It was.

Speaker 8 (01:29:49):
It's the crazy. It's one of the craziest matches you
want to see a real hardcore match.

Speaker 11 (01:29:53):
That was.

Speaker 8 (01:29:53):
They were stiffing the hell out of each other. Roddy
Pipers swinging that bat around like he's got no sense.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
It's a Dustin's head is busted open like instantly.

Speaker 8 (01:30:03):
Yeah. They show a close up shot of of Roddy
Piper grabbing gold Dust's chin and popping them right in
the mouth with a hard punch. Fantastic off.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Where a fight? Where got a fight?

Speaker 8 (01:30:20):
Damn right.

Speaker 7 (01:30:22):
The website of the YouTube channel that made that video
is called rib shot ri iv s h o T.
They do animate shoot interviews and they have like a
ten minute clip of Piper talking about all Meltzer stories
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Oh that's great, So we.

Speaker 6 (01:30:40):
Could possibly clip more and have like a couple you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Know, we need that, We definitely need that.

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
I didn't want to do it all at once, you know,
but no, not all at once.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Let's let's spread it out.

Speaker 8 (01:30:50):
I like that idea.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
But of course, one of Meltzer's more ridiculous statements.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
So somebody said, first win this year when awuh defeated
an A T in the ratings and tire year has
been a win.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
He's shameless, He's utterly shameless.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
This this mutant, this mute idiot.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
He's always going to go back to the TV deal, right,
That's always going to be his go to, Like it's
a win Max deal and that's yeah, if you look
like Mole has been going off on this almost all
week more, it doesn't matter how much money you bring
in on a TV deal if all that money is
gone before the TV deal is up and they spend

(01:31:36):
money like crazy, like we I know, awful.

Speaker 6 (01:31:40):
We heard a story a little while ago where.

Speaker 7 (01:31:43):
Excuse me, where Tony like waited too long to cancel
an arena and had to pay the employees there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
There's been the payments, Yeah, there's been.

Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
There's been reports about like him missing payments to like
companies like Triller.

Speaker 6 (01:31:59):
I know, I don't know if that's why he's not going.
They're not on Triller this weekend, But what it's that they're.

Speaker 8 (01:32:04):
Not because Triller is ninety two cents a share.

Speaker 6 (01:32:07):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 7 (01:32:08):
I agree with wrestle Grass earlier, by the way, who
just said, like buy Triller? Why doesn't Tony just buy Triller?

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
But yeah, right, what an awes?

Speaker 8 (01:32:16):
But they.

Speaker 7 (01:32:20):
They're they're they're missing payments. It's that mindset that you
have when you grow up and you don't have to
pay bills, you know what I mean. It's like he
never had that point where he had to pay a bill.
He never had that point where he had to get
something on time or meet deadlines. He always had people,
and God blessed the fact that he had those people
around him. He's he's a blessed man. But what happens

(01:32:41):
if you don't have somebody who makes you deal with
that stuff?

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
You never do. So then when you get put out
into the.

Speaker 7 (01:32:47):
Real world and have to run a company where you
have to meet deadlines and you're the one in charge
of that and there's not going to be anyone cleaning
up at You can hire somebody to do it, but
you're ultimately in charge of it. You're gonna miss payments
and so it's things like they're paying one thousand dollars
for things they should be paying five hundred dollars for
they're paying you know, they have to pay late bees.
They have to do all that kind of stuff, and
it's just because they don't. They don't have that mindset there.

(01:33:10):
You know, Tony doesn't have the mindset.

Speaker 5 (01:33:13):
It's been five years. They had five years to get
this figured out. He he owns two other sports organizations.
So it's not like this is some This isn't like
blank check two, where you know, someone showed up and
gave him all the money he needed to start his
own wrestling fed and he was learning him to go.

(01:33:34):
There's already infrastructure in place. The fact that this little
weasel doesn't have it in place is an ode to
It tells you how incompetent he is. Yeah, even Vince understood,
I can't do this all by myself.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Tony should not be the one writing checks to an
an arena. That's it's it's asinine. It's asinine, exactly five
uns in that he hasn't made the he hasn't made
even the slightest adjustments.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Nope, he because he's been doing this perfectly since the
day he started. Not one mistake has ever been made.
He's the best, and and that's that's all there is
to say about it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
Actually, it's just it tells you how seriously this company
should be taken and is taken, which is why your
show got cut off by a five year old movie
that that that that only made a two and twenty million, right,
So you have.

Speaker 7 (01:34:41):
When you look at it, you look at the other
side and when they have failures, he look like WW
canceled n XT taping.

Speaker 6 (01:34:46):
That's coming up, right.

Speaker 7 (01:34:47):
They canceled the live show because it was on the
back of the forty weekend. They were doing Battleground there
they were event they're in raw and then they were
gonna do n XT and they canceled it because it
threw seventeen hundred tickets, which by the way, would be
a big win in aaw But WW looked at this
and they said, you know what, we're losing money. This
was the fourth Battleground selling well. Battleground sold like six outs. Yeah,

(01:35:08):
it's on there six thousand tickets, so it's doing well.
It's not a matter of it's not a matter of
an XT not being popular enough. It's a matter of
it's the fourth show and you can you know that
Florida or Tampa bid and wanted this big four day
thing and it just didn't work. And they're in Florida anyway,
so they can drive down the street and go do
to the Perorbit Center for free refund everybody's money and that.

(01:35:30):
And it's because it's a business. Tony has no fallback
like that. Tony has no idea, no concept of you know,
if something's not working.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
To change it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:39):
You know, look at this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
J Evans just said a while back on tweeter, I
said that TK thinks differently than the rest of us.
Most billionaires do. They're in a different mindset. They don't
think like we do. And some aw dumbass thought I
was crazy. Yeah, because they think Tony is just like them.
They don't realize, like, imagine a life where you have
literally never had to consider money for a second. It's

(01:36:06):
just something that's there, something that exists. You get literally
anything you want and don't have to think twice about it.
It is a completely different way the mind works.

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
Yeah, but a billionaire understand its business intimately, like they've
they they talk about it, and they understand a on
a on a whole radically different level. So when you're
seeing deficiencies like this, it is a sign of of

(01:36:42):
just institutional weakness.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Yeah. No, if I if I can make the point,
I think Shad Khan looks at money differently Tony. Tony's
not the billionaire. Tony is the billionaire's son for Tony.
For Tony, money is just always and that Shad was
not always a billionaire. I believe right like he made
his money, he worked for himself paid billionaire. He's an inventor.

Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
Yeah, well you've got a private We've had this conversation before.
You know, over the years in my profession, I have
seen two kinds of people, wealthy people who have made
their own money and wealthy people who have inherited their money,
and they do function very differently.

Speaker 8 (01:37:30):
Indeed, dude, I worked in you know, construction for a
long time. I worked side by side with millionaires who
got their money from the muscle and they hold to
their money like a kung Fu grip. So to see
how how Tony is. And by the way, to sit

(01:37:52):
on another point that this made this is not to
say that with the NXT, what happened with NXT was
a good business move. Wwe fumbled that ball. They should
have never lumped NXT. Yeah no, no, no, yeah, that
was a mistake, but they correct they corrected it.

Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
That's what I'm saying there.

Speaker 7 (01:38:12):
They have the ability to admit a mistake, right, Tony,
move on, Tony cannot admit to a mistake. Like I
was having a conversation with all full about this, where
it's like they should have done something. Here's what they
should do for a make good for collision and it's
a great pr move and it fills up a building.

(01:38:33):
You know what, one day, we're gonna give free tickets
to all in. We're gonna give everyone free tickets all
in one day, twelve hours, twelve hours, Yeah, twelve hours,
come and get them. Let's you know, upper level. And
it's not they're not great tickets, but they're free. They'll
get a few up sells on it. They'll fill up
the arena that they weren't they'll fill up the stadium
they weren't gonna fill up anyway. It'll look better on

(01:38:55):
television and it'll they'll sell some merch off of it.
But instead Theyrriot. They don't want to admit. They don't
want to draw attention to their mistakes. They should have
done something for Grand Slam in Australia. They should have
given everybody in the arena a free t shirt or
something like that for all for what they did.

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
Nothing.

Speaker 7 (01:39:12):
They didn't even admit to the mistake. This is WWE
admitting to the mistake. Sure they didn't put out a
press release, but they're it's they're not hiding it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
You know, w canceled a bunch of shows too recently.

Speaker 7 (01:39:25):
Yeah, and they yeah, they can't they cancel them. Yeah,
they've canceled. Uh, but they do it like three months
in advance, you know what I mean, Like it's I
don't know that see those I don't even see as
I don't it's.

Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
The interest. So even if they had sold some tickets
with the with the you guys, the show got closer,
it wouldn't have been enough for them to even want
to run it. So they so they cut bait. Yeah,
at least this is where they about more Tampa. Tampa's
on nxc's regular course schedule, So there is no urgency

(01:40:05):
to go see NXT when w W proper is in
your calendar for an entire weekend. I just gotta wait
two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
So we've got some more Meltzer stuff going on. Meltzer
and Brian Alvarez had another one of their classic brawls
where so there's four videos imbedded in this one tweet,
so let's uh, let's take a look. So Meltzer says,
what called this a meltz down? And that's my new
favorite thing.

Speaker 11 (01:40:34):
By the way, you mentioned Solo being protected.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
When Brian talks to Dave, you can if you can't
see him, you can hear the smirk.

Speaker 8 (01:40:46):
The the talks like a smirk though, like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Yeah, but when he talks to Dave about this kind
of stuff, like you could, there is just a I'm
talking to an absolute retired smirk on his face or.

Speaker 8 (01:40:58):
I'm trying to get his credit or I'm trying to
discredit him so that when the bag comes over to me,
you know, I seem more Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Well, let's see, let's hear that's how this goes.

Speaker 11 (01:41:08):
You do realize the last time he's won a match
on TV was.

Speaker 12 (01:41:11):
But he's never wrestles on TV. But he never wrestles
on TV, he's being protected. He wrestled on pay per
view and he hasn't wrestled hardly at all.

Speaker 22 (01:41:21):
He has had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine. He's wrestled eleven TV matches and he's won
zero until this past match.

Speaker 5 (01:41:40):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 12 (01:41:41):
Then they're trying to get him ready for they're trying
to get him ready for.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
He never wrest eleven times. Yeah, oh well, well there
you go.

Speaker 8 (01:41:49):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
I'm again.

Speaker 22 (01:41:55):
Jacob's got no credibility, dude, he always loses.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
Always, he's always beaten.

Speaker 8 (01:42:02):
You're partner has no credibility.

Speaker 11 (01:42:05):
No, they do mean something, that's the way.

Speaker 9 (01:42:07):
That's the way.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
So he's trying to out with the wins and losses
mean nothing in w W A like stop that, here
we go.

Speaker 12 (01:42:16):
Wins. No, they do mean something.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
That's why.

Speaker 11 (01:42:19):
That's the way.

Speaker 22 (01:42:20):
Jacop Bet has never been beaten. They have never beaten
the guy.

Speaker 16 (01:42:24):
And that's why they're they're feuding the two of them.
They're feuding the two of them.

Speaker 11 (01:42:29):
I know, I'm wondering why.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
They're feuding them, like Brian, Brian is so done.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Well, yeah, that's why they're feuding them. You're making no sense.
Dave Meltzer is caught being wrong, and he is flailing
because he cannot exactly what you were just saying. He
cannot admit that he was wrong. He cannot admit to
be like, oh yeah, well, I didn't realize that sorry guys.
Oh yeah, no, you're kind of right, Brian. No, he
has to now find a way.

Speaker 8 (01:42:56):
To be right.

Speaker 16 (01:42:59):
So something, well they are, I guess they're gonna start
to do that now. But the point is is the
way that they book title match. They have people loose
ten fifteen times in a row and they'll give him
a title yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:43:10):
For two weeks, but for the top guys, they don't
beat him. There's a reason that Jacobs tattoo has never
been beaten.

Speaker 12 (01:43:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeahcause you're super protecting Jake. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 16 (01:43:21):
But so Solo is the guy who's gonna feud with
him for next But they don't care.

Speaker 11 (01:43:25):
They don't care, Well they should if you want people
to care about it. They didn't care about that ladder match.
They still and they.

Speaker 22 (01:43:32):
Didn't care about Solo winning, except they were mad because
they didn't have Phoenix or like two guys that.

Speaker 12 (01:43:38):
Can do the ladder matches. But the point they've how
many he is.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
He is in full like meltdown mode right now because he.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Cannot find a way out of this where he can
say I'm still right.

Speaker 8 (01:43:52):
Anybody with an IQ over eighty he has a problem.

Speaker 12 (01:43:55):
With Yeah, seriously, the fans don't care about wins and losses.
I mean it's been it's obvious. You've seen how many
times that.

Speaker 16 (01:44:05):
That they'll put a match that, in theory shouldn't draw
because one of the guys always loses, and it does draw.

Speaker 12 (01:44:12):
So it's like, I've been studying this the fans. It's
not a big deal to the fans.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Oh, I've been studying this. Oh, I'm study this. That's
his other favorite thing.

Speaker 12 (01:44:22):
Yes, they will protect a few guys like Solo.

Speaker 16 (01:44:25):
Yeah, I mean like Jacob, like Jacob, but Solo is
a guy who they obviously feel that they can beat,
but they still treat him like he's top guy. I mean,
he gets plenty of promos. The key in WW is
your promo.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Okay, so that's part one. Let's boot up part two
of this because it continues on.

Speaker 7 (01:44:47):
Here's the weird thing about some moens recently, doesn't do
you think maybe he I think maybe he just feels
extreme guilt about pronouncing off of that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's possible. All right, here we go next
part of this.

Speaker 12 (01:45:05):
I mean, he gets plenty of promos on the KEMWW
is your promo?

Speaker 22 (01:45:09):
To I know people don't care about Solo. He actually
doesn't get a very good reaction. Jacob gets a great
reaction because they can see he's special because he never loses,
and he's always the guy that has to say solo.

Speaker 12 (01:45:25):
But they push Solo. Solo gets lots of TV time,
and he gets a.

Speaker 11 (01:45:29):
Push getting some wins.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
This ain't gonna be Brian always approaches Meltzer with the
simplest logic you could possibly present, and Dave finds a
way to trip himself up with it.

Speaker 8 (01:45:46):
I do have to say that I disagree with Brian
Alvarez on one point. It wasn't because Jacob Fatu was
winning that he became special. It was because they debut
Jacob Fattou like a trillion goddamn dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:46:02):
I actually, I actually have no I have actually no
issue with Meltzer's opinion here.

Speaker 7 (01:46:08):
My thing about him is that he can't he can't
listen to him breakdown, like he's being challenged on something
and he can't. He's he's melting, and we hear it
as it happens, like it's like it's like it's like
when the when the when the machine goes it's like
you're playing tick tac toe with the wargames machine and
it's just in this endless loop.

Speaker 11 (01:46:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:46:28):
Like, I have no problem with someone saying like, okay,
look so it was not winning, but that's his character, right,
His character was that he was pushing, he was too
young and trying to take over the line and whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:46:37):
Fine, that's that's where you want to go. That's where
you go. No issue with that. But the fact that
he's melting down over this. He melts down over everything.
The guy is a living crash out.

Speaker 9 (01:46:46):
He can't everything.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Anytime he's challenged because he's the authority diss you can't
challenge him his opinion's right.

Speaker 6 (01:46:54):
When he gets something right, he crashes out.

Speaker 12 (01:46:56):
Bar But look at his Twitter ball.

Speaker 5 (01:47:00):
He can't handle even the most mild of criticism. Yeah,
any question to him is offensive. You know, he has
to attack you. And if he thinks he's right, he's
a you know, he throws himself a month flowing smug.

Speaker 7 (01:47:20):
Parade and he blocks constantly. That he was the first
person to block me on Twitter. I'm all for your
blocked in my mouth. All right, Nope, really congratulations.

Speaker 8 (01:47:29):
There, thank you manage that because I've got an IQ
of seventy nine. That's why.

Speaker 5 (01:47:38):
He blocked me after I s fund him how a
P and L worked.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Feud.

Speaker 12 (01:47:45):
Well, he's going to lose the feud, so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 16 (01:47:47):
But the point is, especially for heels, they beat heels
all the time, and so you know, they beat heels
all the time.

Speaker 12 (01:47:55):
They don't care. I mean, it's like that's just part
of the deal, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
I mean, it's right back to they don't care. That's
that's the basis of his argument, is that they don't care.
And then Brian keeps explaining to him how they do
care and they show that they care, and he can't
wrap his head around that.

Speaker 6 (01:48:12):
It's also a subtle knock on.

Speaker 7 (01:48:16):
It's it's also it's a subtle knock on ww fans
because he's saying they're not smart enough.

Speaker 6 (01:48:21):
They don't they don't understand this.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
But it's not that subtle.

Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
But I will say this, though Melser is correct, they
don't care. Yeah, but only certain heels can get away
with that. Like, I don't think Solo is in the
spot yet where he should be losing this much. Solo
does need to be a little protective. They're they're spending

(01:48:50):
all of his you were a killer in the bloodline equity?
You know you know what I mean. It's like, so
it's what once?

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
This is fine?

Speaker 5 (01:49:00):
Only done once once Solo loses to Jacob, right, because
we know all roads lead to this match. What do
you do with Solo? Are you hoping that are you
hoping that it's time to do Roman versus Jimmy and
and you've and now you officially wrap up whatever left
to the storyline. But when that's done, what the hell

(01:49:20):
do you do with Solo? The you wasted him? Get it?
Jacob was the better version of Solo?

Speaker 8 (01:49:28):
Yep, Jacob. Jacob was supposed to be Solo or Solo
was supposed to be Jacob?

Speaker 7 (01:49:34):
Yeah, well did you do you guys see how downplayed
Jeff Cobb was on SmackDown, Like it was he that dude.
I don't know if it was because he was against
Elling Knight or what, but I've seen a lot of
Jeff Cobb matches and he was going about a fourth
the speedy normally does. And I don't know if it's
like he's over he's over correcting for the WW style

(01:49:58):
or if someone said, hey, we don't want you looking,
we don't want another Jacob situation, right right, Yeah, it can.

Speaker 5 (01:50:06):
Also to be that he is still adjusting to the size.

Speaker 12 (01:50:10):
Of the ring.

Speaker 6 (01:50:12):
Okay, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 8 (01:50:14):
Do you guys believe that? Because I don't see too
much going on with Jeff Cobb. I think a better
move for him would be to present him on like
n XT, maybe in like the next three four months. Yeah,
you know, get over whatever whatever storyline you guys got
going on with him for now?

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Too late.

Speaker 8 (01:50:34):
No, I know they should have did it with Solo.
Actually take his black ass. Someone want asked right pack
Town the NXC.

Speaker 16 (01:50:42):
This has been the case dope to be for decades.
They do not you know, when they book they're not
booking long term. Who he's gonna win and he's gonna
get a title shot. They'll just do whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Now, they're not booking long term, the bloodline, Cody's story. No,
they're not booking long.

Speaker 16 (01:50:58):
It doesn't matter, doesn't care. And then when it comes
to oh you got to get somebody ready for a
title shot. This guy's lost a bunch of matches. Put
him in a four way and he wins the four
way and he gets the title.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
Man he's talking about Vince era.

Speaker 5 (01:51:11):
This is not the same thing, does the same ship.
They look at Nakamora when it came time to throw
Knockimore at Cody, all of a sudden, he was killing people.
He was back, he was interesting when that match happened,
and he was ice cold it. Stripy says the same bullshit.

Speaker 16 (01:51:31):
I don't Mentionine, all those losses don't matter, and the
people accept it. If the people didn't accept it and
it didn't work, they'd stop doing it.

Speaker 15 (01:51:39):
And I'm not saying, you.

Speaker 16 (01:51:40):
Know, it's like, of course it's better if you make wins.
I think it sucks that wins and losses don't matter,
but they don't. They don't book like and this is
a perfect example. They're building this guy up reviewed with Jacob.
Jacob is a top guy. They protect Jacob, I.

Speaker 22 (01:51:54):
Know, but Jacob is a top guy, Dave, because he
never loses.

Speaker 11 (01:51:58):
He's always the guy who, always the guy that were.

Speaker 5 (01:52:04):
I but Bryan's missing the point here.

Speaker 6 (01:52:09):
I've got ada on this.

Speaker 5 (01:52:12):
Here's the thing that The Day is explaining poorly is
that fans understand the concept of the monster of the
week like this. This was the Hogan era. You got
Hog got a if if it wasn't he. If it
wasn't earthquake, then it was Bad News Brown. If it
wasn't Bad News Brown, then it was Rick Martel. So
it was Rick Martel. Then we're back to Orndorff like

(01:52:35):
it was just who was it gonna be this month
until we get to the section of the year where
we need to start stretching at a story the so
so people people understand a bad guy's got to get hot,
so that a good guy has someone to wrestle.

Speaker 8 (01:52:50):
Dude, does Dave Meltzer not understand like the you guys
are in the comic books. I'm sure that's what was
going on every month when comic books, like this month,
Spider Man's facing the Rhino. Next month He's facing Sandman
or whatever. They do something dashardly deed in the first
five pages, and by the end of the thing, Spider
Man comes out on top.

Speaker 5 (01:53:10):
Come on, it's wrapped up and you're not gonna see
this character again for another seven months. And there you go,
and Brian is grossly underscoring that Jacob is over because
of his insane charisma and athletics, like Jacob's special because
he's special, they treat him special.

Speaker 8 (01:53:27):
Because he's special, right, Jacob could possibly lose all the
matches and still be as good as he is.

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
It's true, though, he's not over because he has lost,
and that that's incidental.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
That's why.

Speaker 5 (01:53:42):
That's why I think David's right. Wins and losses don't
really matter. Wins, the losses don't matter until the WB
says these wins and losses matters.

Speaker 7 (01:53:51):
It's a bit of being terminally online too, and I
think Alvarez have that problem because if you look at Twitter,
you'd think Gray Phoenix wasn't over.

Speaker 6 (01:53:59):
Yeah, right, and you listen to the crowd and you
see what you know, he's clearly over.

Speaker 7 (01:54:05):
People love Ray Phoenix, they think he's doing great, but
he lost the el Grid named Americano and he he
didn't get in the money in the bank match, so
clearly he's not over. That's how That's how the Internet
sees things a lot of times, but it's not necessarily
protect and they.

Speaker 22 (01:54:22):
Protect their top guys. And my point is they don't
protect to.

Speaker 12 (01:54:27):
A degree, but they give him all kinds of interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
I know, but people.

Speaker 8 (01:54:33):
Special.

Speaker 5 (01:54:36):
They're both right, is like Solo. They're putting too much
energy like Solo does need to be a little more protected.
But I get it. The mindset is we're they're they're
playing a balance game there. Figure we got to get
Solo's ability to talk over more and establish his character,
so Solo gets to do all the scheming and the plotting,

(01:54:58):
you know. So he's he's a different the character is
different again, but people who have watched Solo, I want
to see the badass of the next team, you know
what I mean. So it's like the they're they're they're
both not wrong, but they're just they're picking weird They're

(01:55:19):
taking their arguments at weird angles.

Speaker 6 (01:55:23):
They're like people who don't actually talk to people in
real The problem.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
The problem is, like you said, they're both right, but
Meltzer has to be the only one who's right. Yes,
I think that's the problem. Yes, is that one done?

Speaker 6 (01:55:42):
That was over? I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
All right, so's more interesting than it was gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Yeah, we're not we're not did that? That's true?

Speaker 6 (01:55:53):
That's true.

Speaker 8 (01:55:54):
Yes, Ship.

Speaker 7 (01:55:59):
We had to allow viborate on everything Dave said so
that people would understand what Dave meant.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Well, it's a good thing that his job is not
communicating to people. You're saying Solo is to Smu tribal chief.
That was the whole port And so yeah, it's exactly
all right, here we go.

Speaker 12 (01:56:19):
You're saying that they're booking badly and that the feud
will not work.

Speaker 11 (01:56:23):
I'm saying they're booking Solo badly.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
Yes, okay, if.

Speaker 12 (01:56:26):
The feud doesn't work, then that's fine. But what if
the feud what if the people react to the feud.

Speaker 22 (01:56:31):
But I've already seen it with Solo, Like he had
a feud with Cody and nobody cared about Solo.

Speaker 11 (01:56:37):
He was Roman and people didn't.

Speaker 12 (01:56:39):
Care about Roman.

Speaker 22 (01:56:40):
Yeah, business because there and Roman was in there, but
you could have put anyone in there.

Speaker 11 (01:56:49):
It wasn't Solo.

Speaker 5 (01:56:54):
That was the point of the.

Speaker 7 (01:56:58):
I'm just I don't know why all of a sudden,
Dave Meltzer feels like he's the voice of the Fatu
family and has to like he is so defensive.

Speaker 6 (01:57:10):
About this what is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:57:12):
Because he said a thing and he asked me, right.

Speaker 5 (01:57:17):
Yes, Meltzer has starting to smell some blood in the water,
that is Brian's arguments, and he's like, I'm right, and
I know, I know I'm right. Brian is totally the
whole reason before the for the Cody future. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:57:36):
But but melt is completely wrong too because he's he's
pretending like Solo is super over and the people care
about you know what I mean, like both of them.

Speaker 6 (01:57:45):
They can't. Well, how can two people have an argument
and both be wrong? I don't understand me.

Speaker 16 (01:57:52):
I mean business that that's all the counts at the
end of the day. Does it work, if it doesn't,
If if it works, it worked. It doesn't work, then
it doesn't work, and then you got to stop doing it.
But when it works, by the fact that they do
this and it works, it's like, okay, that's what the think.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
Yeah, if it works, then it works. But if it
doesn't work, then you know it still might work. But
you know, work work, work work. If it doesn't, it doesn't,
you gotta stop. What is them?

Speaker 6 (01:58:21):
You gotta stop doing them? Does that mean you stop
doing the Matthews or you stop?

Speaker 8 (01:58:26):
Nothing better than hearing two morons talking to each other
awful wrestling mics work.

Speaker 5 (01:58:35):
The story isn't working, But I guess I always put out.
Remember the one thing I always say, the Heels job
is to lose. Heels lose. That's the sole purpose of
their existence. So complaining about Solo losing all the time again,
it it doesn't matter until you need it to matter, right.

Speaker 12 (01:58:55):
Your answer, it's like, get to believe me.

Speaker 16 (01:58:59):
There have been times in his street where what you're
saying was one hundred accurate and the stuff wouldn't draw
and it wouldn't work.

Speaker 12 (01:59:05):
This is not that time because all of those future work.

Speaker 22 (01:59:09):
I don't even think the match for the Ula Fallow work.
The fans didn't care about the match.

Speaker 6 (01:59:14):
All that much.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
He's wrong, they cared about that one.

Speaker 8 (01:59:17):
But talking about okay, he was at PW PWG show that.

Speaker 6 (01:59:26):
I okay.

Speaker 7 (01:59:27):
I think Meltzer, I think Alvarez is doing a terrible
job in making his argument too, because the argument is
the people cared about the match, but it wasn't because
Solo was in it right like Roman, and they will
follow that whole storyline. But you could have taken Solo,
replaced him with Jimmy and people probably would have been
just as interested, you know, And that's the argument to

(01:59:47):
be made. So Alfarez can't make the argument. But Meltzer
acting like Solo sold that match is also very incorrect.
You know, you honestly, you could have put in that
match and people would have cared about it just as
much because they've cared about Roman and the La Faulla.
It wasn't solo, so yeah, right.

Speaker 11 (02:00:11):
And of course it was on a big rush with
a bunch of other big matches.

Speaker 12 (02:00:15):
It was.

Speaker 11 (02:00:16):
It was Roman Reigns worrying on television and was. But
it should have been a way, way bigger deal than
it was.

Speaker 12 (02:00:23):
What are you talking about that?

Speaker 11 (02:00:25):
After all that that was?

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
That was?

Speaker 11 (02:00:27):
That was?

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
Okay, I'm not saying that that was the reason mattered
more than a lot of World Championships at that point.
I mean Brian's wrong here.

Speaker 5 (02:00:36):
Yeah, one of the most important nights in the company's history.

Speaker 7 (02:00:44):
Yeah, yeah, But I will say I don't remember before
this conversation, I did not remember that match happened on
that raw, Like, that's not what I remember that raw for.

Speaker 12 (02:00:54):
And I'm not sure.

Speaker 11 (02:00:55):
Yeah, but that wasn't because of that, No, it was
partially because of that.

Speaker 8 (02:00:58):
It wasn't.

Speaker 12 (02:00:58):
That wasn't the main reason at all. The main rys
was Dwayne and John Cen.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
And Dwayne.

Speaker 6 (02:01:09):
He's talking about him playing the rock.

Speaker 8 (02:01:12):
In his head.

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
Well, my favorite part in Black Adam is when Dwayne,
says Sam and then turns into Dwayne.

Speaker 12 (02:01:21):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:01:22):
Dwayne saw that the ratings on A W were going
up on high, so he called uh W B D
and said, put on my hit movie Black app.

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
Please tell me, please, please tell me that every time
he watches a movie with the Rock in it, he
refers to the character there only as Dwayne. My favorite
movie is The Scorpion Dwayne.

Speaker 7 (02:01:47):
Hewan's Jamanji, and he was like leaning over to the kids,
that's Dwayne, that's my good friend, Dwayne.

Speaker 2 (02:01:54):
The Dwayne Faery Dwayne. I'm just gonna say that one.

Speaker 12 (02:02:00):
Crowd was on fire though, so there you go. The
crowd was super into that match. So it worked, and.

Speaker 16 (02:02:05):
They've been doing the promos for it. They spent months
building it up and that was the big bull up.
They put it on a big show.

Speaker 12 (02:02:11):
The show did fantastic figures.

Speaker 16 (02:02:13):
Gate and you know, again not not because of that match,
but it was partially because of that match.

Speaker 12 (02:02:19):
That was that was a key match on the show.

Speaker 9 (02:02:21):
It was not no no, I mean of.

Speaker 12 (02:02:23):
Course it wasn't because of that match played at four
million dark games.

Speaker 8 (02:02:26):
I can't do this. They don't listen to the man
on the regular. I'm trying to do ha haas here
we gotta be tortured.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
I'm not even gonna play the last one. It's just
they're both they're both wrong. Yeah, they're both wrong, and
they're both right. But that stay for you, all right,
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(02:03:01):
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Speaker 7 (02:03:15):
Uh, somebody brought that up on Twitter and they're like,
I can't believe if people are fetish shaming.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
It's like, stop it now, come on.

Speaker 5 (02:03:28):
We laugh at that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:30):
We mock it.

Speaker 5 (02:03:31):
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two thousand and five when memorim freely.

Speaker 23 (02:03:39):
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that was you always cut it off at the best
part when he when he does the gay dance, that's
when that's when it all comes together.

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Speaker 19 (02:04:22):
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Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
For for yeah, you would forever runner for one, Ricochet
met a better version of himself and lost it. Who's
the better Who's the better version of.

Speaker 12 (02:04:35):
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Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
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Speaker 19 (02:04:37):
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Speaker 2 (02:04:38):
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Speaker 8 (02:04:55):
Do you guys ever see that video of Michael Richards
on stage going He's.

Speaker 12 (02:05:02):
No.

Speaker 6 (02:05:06):
There's a second where I was like, oh no, and
then I was like, oh, I get.

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
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and what happens leading up and possible aftermath of double
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Speaker 6 (02:05:26):
Dynamite last week? I gave kid Oh.

Speaker 8 (02:05:30):
Yeah, Gabe Kids showed up in the Steel Coae match,
John Moxley beat Samoa Joe, and I think that's the
reason why aw got such good ratings, because people wanted
to be half him. Ount no pin. I think it
was a pin in a.

Speaker 6 (02:05:45):
Steel good in a steel cage with Gabe Kid. It's
I mean, what do you want? I don't know. Everyone
everyone in the world wants to see Samoa Joe win
the title.

Speaker 5 (02:05:54):
That's what they feel. Everything, everything including the kitchen sink
at the show. Somojo possibly winning a title.

Speaker 4 (02:06:06):
Well that's look even if you even if he wants
some moojo to win the title.

Speaker 2 (02:06:10):
If John Moxley doesn't want to lose that title, he's
not losing that title. That's what ironclad creative control is.
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you take money? Zach k for four ninety nine is
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(02:06:31):
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That was the last week's article.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
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Speaker 6 (02:06:55):
I saw that in the Weekly World News last week.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
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the WBD Discovery's credit rating was cut the junk status
by the S and B. I believe that it happened.

Speaker 12 (02:07:12):
It happened.

Speaker 2 (02:07:13):
Yeah, well, I mean they are they are. They are
very much in the hole. I think they have what
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the worth of the entire studio.

Speaker 8 (02:07:23):
Sorry, Marv hates a correction, thirty eight billion dollars in
the whole grouse?

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
Are they really?

Speaker 8 (02:07:30):
Yes? I read that five times and couldn't believe it.

Speaker 5 (02:07:34):
Was shocked that no one is going to jail for this,
because we know that the books were cooked in order
to get discovered about to buy this company. Yeah, in
such crisis, the none of none of the wb accents
actually have value.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's a third eight billion. It's definitely upside
down at that point because there's no way Warner Brothers
is worth thirty eight billion dollars and.

Speaker 5 (02:08:06):
You don't have Puts Network because it was worth the
zero mm hmm. Everything else they dumped was worthless.

Speaker 7 (02:08:17):
No, yeah, it's WBD has no idea what they're doing.
And with all like, Awful has always been talking about
the fact, you know, there's benchmarks or something which have
kind of been shown at this point or at least
told that there are benchmarks when it comes to dynamized performance.
But it makes you wonder if another company ends up
taking over that contract. You think they're gonna you think

(02:08:40):
they're gonna you think they're gonna keep aw like. That's
my biggest thing about If aw goes, it'll be because
someone took over the contract and said, why are we
do how much to pay by byas out of this, I.

Speaker 8 (02:08:53):
Made a comparison. This is smelling just like the AOL
Time Warner thing. It's the exact same thing. It's just
like I said an hour ago, you will not feel
the repercussions of all this for no, I'd say another five, six,
seven months and this is going by what Eric Bischoff
said long time ago, like he walks in the office

(02:09:15):
one day, he sees a whole bunch of suits and
and cup links and he's just like, what's going on.
Within months, the product looked different, The whole talent roster
looked different. So yeah, it could look at W.

Speaker 5 (02:09:32):
Remember like all of a sudden there were no micro girls. Yep,
all of a sudden, all the new cruise weights that
got signed got released. The Yeah, it was. It was
a slower, but the game with this, I think a
e w's only saving grades is that they need cheap,

(02:09:53):
cheap weekly content. So that's that's that's the only benefit
you get because the show doesn't pull well. Again, we'll
see we'll see what happens when we hit a when
we hit next up. But once we get out of
the NBA five holes and we see them drop again,
and then September is usually where it's stuck. So we'll
see if they're if they're sitting, you know, if they're

(02:10:16):
if they're in the five hundreds by September and they're
stuck there, then we can start the uh, you can
start the countdown clock to the last episode of Dynamite.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
Yeah, Adams one says Dave gave the new snow White
five starts. I'm done with that conversation. I'm sorry. John
Williams of nine ninety nine. When Lance Kid died, Vince
called Dave Demandigy call him back, only for there to
be another voicemail saying, wait, it's Lance Cade, not Lance Storm.
Never mind. I don't get that one, John Williams. But

(02:10:49):
you're not paying me to get it. You're paying me
to read it.

Speaker 5 (02:10:52):
Uh you don't remember?

Speaker 2 (02:10:55):
Yeah, no, I don't what happened that.

Speaker 5 (02:10:58):
I'm pretty sure that's an actual store.

Speaker 6 (02:11:00):
Is it real?

Speaker 5 (02:11:02):
I'm pretty sure it's real.

Speaker 2 (02:11:05):
Oh that's that's insane. That is insane. Uh. Wolf Child
for fort ninety nine says heel diss not giving me
a shout out for sending him the Piper Meltzer.

Speaker 5 (02:11:15):
Rude.

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
Anyway, here's five bucks.

Speaker 8 (02:11:18):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (02:11:19):
It's I was in the hospital until four am, so
I apologize. I'm not I said I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
John Williams of one ninety nine because Tony Kahn says,
what's a bill? That's very true?

Speaker 4 (02:11:31):
He probably isn't that the Duck's mouth.

Speaker 8 (02:11:35):
Liquid five ack?

Speaker 2 (02:11:35):
You're not paying Liquid Fox for two dollars Canadians as
meltzer is the sound of delusion.

Speaker 4 (02:11:42):
King Fucking goof Williams for four ninety nine says.

Speaker 2 (02:11:50):
Wins and losses matter because I need to know when
I need to bury someone. Yeah, wins, wins matter when
they're triple ahs wins and MJG for nineteen ninety nine
is very far behind listening. Both theories can be true.
AW failed to send a full and usable episode and
WBD realized and let them flounder. Screws being put to

(02:12:12):
AW by WABD who needs revamped? Who needs to revamp?
HBO Max Aew not mentioned at the upfronts. Were the
WBD upfronts recent? Yeah, like last week May fifteen, Yeah,
Cino was there, Scena was there, and Aew didn't get mentioned.

Speaker 5 (02:12:29):
So so you know what's fascinating too, is I think
this fits you know, the the the interwebs are constantly
screaming about how RAW is not doing as great, while
also ignoring the fact that the audience increased by what
some forty percent, So if the show is down twenty percent,

(02:12:51):
it's still up forty percent and we're not in WrestleMania season.
The two things happened over the last two weeks. That
essentially certify that everybody's happy with their decisions. Right, you
have the you have the you have the president of
the c W going n x T is a game
changer for us. So you know, you get no higher

(02:13:14):
recommendation than that. Then you get the president, you get
one of the one or the president vice president. Netflix
comes out and says, triple H is name. I actually
named strop triple H for the for the fantastic results
that they're getting from from raw on Netflix. So this
isn't like. This isn't like you know when when when

(02:13:37):
when some dirt sheet lavishes a osprey with praise, this
actually means something. These are These are high power, high
power professionals taking the time to shout someone someone out
inside their industry tells you that this person is essentially
now a certified g So I know all this BS

(02:14:00):
and and and cattaloging about how things aren't going great.
At no point in time over the last five years
have we seen anybody anywhere but on any network even
remotely mentioned aw's existence.

Speaker 7 (02:14:16):
Yeah, what about the mayor elect or the guy running
from mayor in London took a picture with Nick Kahn
and Triple H like two weeks after all in last
year he.

Speaker 8 (02:14:29):
Took a pressure with some AW fellows and looked like
he wanted to be anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
Yeah, they they I am convinced that that all in
happened at Wembley, so that the so that the the
the people in London can be like, look, wwe, there's
a market here.

Speaker 4 (02:14:47):
You can smell out WrestleMania at Wembley Stadium.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
I think that's definitely part of it. I think also
kind kind of the way that uh, Spike TV used
ECW as a test to make sure that wrestling could
work on their net before bringing on Vince Well.

Speaker 7 (02:15:01):
Also, they didn't pay Tony to be there, aw head,
no get wimbley stadium.

Speaker 6 (02:15:07):
WW would be a Paige WrestleMania would be a paide show.

Speaker 5 (02:15:10):
Yeah, wrestle gets paid to show up in your town.

Speaker 2 (02:15:15):
Yeah m hmm. All right, guys, so speaking to people
who probably don't get paid. Uh, this indie guy going
at Cornet, we gotta listen to this.

Speaker 6 (02:15:24):
He's an AW wrestler. He is an AW wrestler?

Speaker 2 (02:15:27):
Is he an AW guy? Thought he was an indie
guy that did a guest spot spots.

Speaker 8 (02:15:32):
Before we listen to this. Who do you surmarise? It
was this If you've heard.

Speaker 6 (02:15:36):
They said, he says it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
Oh okay, all right, hold on, here we go.

Speaker 21 (02:15:42):
Anyway, this email, the subject line was, instead of calling
me a nobody for attention, why don't you try to help?

Speaker 6 (02:15:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
Well the email he owes right.

Speaker 4 (02:15:57):
He owes you nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
Then the man's job is to critique wrestling.

Speaker 21 (02:16:04):
These people as first, my name is Miles Hawkins and
that's in capitals. I am an n CUAA All American
trained by some of the best wrestling schools in the
Mid Atlantic.

Speaker 9 (02:16:16):
Do you have to go to more than one?

Speaker 21 (02:16:17):
Was he expelled at some point? Man, I am the
guy who did the job for Hobbs on aw At Dynamite.
Oh I am certainly not a note.

Speaker 4 (02:16:26):
Oh my goodness, how soft you have to be to
boke this bear?

Speaker 9 (02:16:38):
Do you remember?

Speaker 12 (02:16:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:16:39):
What did you say?

Speaker 21 (02:16:40):
You know this is legitimate because well remember it was
a couple of weeks ago they had a match where
it was Hobbs and Samoa Joe and who's in her
grid that hurt shappoopy somebody else came or whoever the
other guy will hurt hook heard hook. That's right, I
got shappoopy. He was again one of the guys on

(02:17:00):
the other side of the things. They had a job match,
like I said, three minutes or whatever the fuck, and
I said, well, it was Samoa, Joe and Hobbs and
whoever versus Nobody anyway, moved on us in the baby
Faces one the.

Speaker 9 (02:17:12):
Goddamn thing, and we were critiquing the show.

Speaker 21 (02:17:16):
That's the way I remember this guy, and I don't
actually think that we bothered to watch the match to
even talk about him further. But apparently he was highly
offended by saying nobody on the can you look up?

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
This is a level of softness that I did not
think existed.

Speaker 5 (02:17:36):
This is the entirety of the indies.

Speaker 8 (02:17:40):
Oh. I thought he would at least have kept anonymous.

Speaker 21 (02:17:44):
The results of Dynamite from a couple of weeks ago,
and see who else was on Nobody's team or do
you have a is there a search engine you can
find with that information?

Speaker 4 (02:17:54):
I like that he's still calling him nobody. Yeah, it
was on Nobody's team.

Speaker 21 (02:18:00):
Will continue on reading the email. While I completely understand
that the premise of your show is to ship on
modern wrestling for attention. You are someone that I would
like to hear. You're unbiased out of podcasting character opinions
that advise.

Speaker 2 (02:18:17):
You heard it. You already heard it.

Speaker 8 (02:18:20):
That's so ridiculous, like the man's coming up with different
ideas off the air, like.

Speaker 7 (02:18:25):
I found I found this because a mole mole posted
on his in the first and the comment was, this
is how you cannot get booked anymore.

Speaker 6 (02:18:36):
Nobody is this guy?

Speaker 5 (02:18:38):
Yeah, how you get booked? Nowhere except that Bucky Beard
just said.

Speaker 2 (02:18:47):
I just looked up Miles Hawkins on Twitter. He has
eight hundred and eleven followers. He's clearly a big deal.

Speaker 12 (02:18:54):
What is he like?

Speaker 5 (02:18:55):
Four feet tall?

Speaker 7 (02:18:58):
He's bigger than he looks, I will say, but he's
I mean, he's not in there like Powerhouse Hobbs.

Speaker 6 (02:19:05):
He looks pretty small, but he's you.

Speaker 9 (02:19:07):
Know, sort I'm here to see if you can help
me or are you full of it? So now, but
base mc brown here.

Speaker 21 (02:19:17):
The premise of what we do is to shit on
modern wrestling to get attention. We can't really mean it
because you know, so, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:19:24):
You want the man's help, so you insult him multiple
times and then demand his help. So typical of this generation,
not just wrestlers, but just the entire generation as a whole.
Oh my goodness, that is that is a level of expectancy.
That it's softness and expectancy. Does it get better? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:19:46):
Do you think this is his shot at getting a
full time contract with AW Like you think this is
him shooting his shot?

Speaker 2 (02:19:52):
Attacking Cornett's not the way to do it. Tony likes Cornett,
I mean he likes he doesn't like Cornette. Now he
specs Cornette in the business, but well he refuses to
Cornett is the one guy that criticizes a w that
Tony Kahan does not go off.

Speaker 6 (02:20:11):
On he fired a Meal because she went on his show?

Speaker 2 (02:20:15):
Did she?

Speaker 6 (02:20:16):
I mean hitting fire? But he hasn't used her since
she since he went on his show.

Speaker 5 (02:20:19):
So yeah, this dude is a freaking talking about this
is a look. Yea, brother, you you need a booster seat,
lower your lower the base in your voice.

Speaker 9 (02:20:35):
Not me doing a great job. But if you have
any criticism, I'd like to hear it.

Speaker 2 (02:20:43):
Hold on, I want to go back and here.

Speaker 21 (02:20:45):
That wrestling to get attention. We can't really mean it
because you know they're obviously doing a great job, but
if you have.

Speaker 9 (02:20:53):
Any criticism, I'd like to hear it.

Speaker 21 (02:21:00):
Besides the fact that I'm sorry, I'm not actually getting
any extra attention calling Miles standish or I'm sorry Miles Hawkins.

Speaker 9 (02:21:06):
And nobody.

Speaker 2 (02:21:09):
File standish.

Speaker 9 (02:21:13):
Uh asking sincerely.

Speaker 21 (02:21:17):
He's taken the attitude that again, I'm just in character,
but they're not doing anything really wrong.

Speaker 9 (02:21:23):
I'm Miles, I'm sorry, I don't have a character. I
have an opinion.

Speaker 21 (02:21:26):
In my opinion was about the overall show and whether
or not the Thiard match was of any importance.

Speaker 9 (02:21:33):
And nobody had seen you on television ever before.

Speaker 21 (02:21:37):
Now, I could have, like some of the sorry sacks
of shit that they've rolled out there in the past
to do jobs that have just been visually ridiculous looking
or completely inept and out of place.

Speaker 9 (02:21:49):
I could have broken that down. But you didn't really
look like that.

Speaker 2 (02:21:53):
You just looked like a guy. Like the things that
he says about people from that show were from any
show really, And this is the thing that you take extent.
This reminds me of that feud between the Rock and
the Big Show. Remember when the Big Show turned heel
on the Rock because the Rock called him a Gabbroni. Yes, yes,
like you call me a Gibbroni like the and the

(02:22:16):
Rock was like perplexed by it, Like the Rock calls
everybody at Jibbroni, It's okay.

Speaker 7 (02:22:22):
This also has has a lot the fact that Miles
what Hawkins feels this way probably has a lot to
do with the fact that, you know, aw fans don't
think you need things like video package packages to familiarize
with people.

Speaker 6 (02:22:36):
Familiarize with people.

Speaker 7 (02:22:37):
They should just know that he's a you know, North
Carolina YouTube television champion or something.

Speaker 6 (02:22:43):
They they should know that when they watch the show.

Speaker 2 (02:22:46):
So you knowing who you are does does not make
you non and nobody, right Like uh, in the world
of wrestling, you are and nobody.

Speaker 4 (02:22:57):
At this point, you are proving yourself. You're in your
You're in your infancy, like.

Speaker 5 (02:23:05):
These idiots have all deluded themselves and then thinking that
because they And a lot of this has to do
with the fact that indie schools are such track right
now and that there are gatekeepers who are gatekeeper who
have no business being the spots.

Speaker 12 (02:23:23):
They're in.

Speaker 5 (02:23:24):
You yourself with the right cult, with the right cult,
and then that cult leader gets you a spot that
gets you a try out you shouldn't have got, maybe
a dark matter shouldn't have gountain. And then you just
bounce around to the same six places that you always
go to and work the same fifteen people and essentially

(02:23:45):
all stand in a circle and tell each other how
great you all are. Then you become legends in your
own mind. And then when something comes along to shatter
the delusion, these these soft skinned you know, little babies
start tantruming and that that's what happened.

Speaker 17 (02:24:01):
Hasn't.

Speaker 4 (02:24:03):
No, well, it was nobody, it's all had.

Speaker 6 (02:24:08):
It's a compliment.

Speaker 7 (02:24:10):
It's a compliment because he's he was jobbing. You're not
supposed to stand out when you're a jobber. When you're
a job or, the idea is that you're supposed to
put the other guy over and make him look good.
The fact that Cornett wasn't distracted by him, it's why
we It's why none of the jobbers in WWF used
to have gimmicks. They were just blah blah, Mike Jones jobber,

(02:24:31):
Steve Sharp jobber.

Speaker 2 (02:24:34):
Remember when Steve Lombard, well, I love I love that
line from Cornett with the I don't have a character.
I have an opinion the character of Jim Cornett was
the mama's boy, rich guy from you know, Mid South wrestling.
That was Jim Cornett. The character we are very well

(02:24:56):
versed in. Jim Cornett, the person.

Speaker 9 (02:24:59):
Oh yeah, nobody knew who the fuck he was. And
truthfully and honestly, I don't plan on watching a lot
of your extended matches in the future. But just as
an overall.

Speaker 21 (02:25:13):
Suggestion, if you're going to ask any veteran or any
more experienced person than you are for advice, don't preface
it by saying, well, I know, you just say shit
like that because you want to get attention and you
can't really meet it.

Speaker 9 (02:25:27):
But what am I doing right? But now, also, he
was an NCAA All.

Speaker 21 (02:25:32):
American, which means he's doomed in that environment because the
last thing they want is anybody trying to bring any
type of athletic background to that show.

Speaker 9 (02:25:40):
But at the same time, he sounds.

Speaker 5 (02:25:44):
There's also some important there too. Cornett said, tell me
what I'm doing right, That's all they want to hear.
Ye do not want criticism. They can't take it. So
if you told them they did something wrong, you have
shattered the fabric of their reality.

Speaker 6 (02:25:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:26:00):
And it's not just wrestlers. It's not just wrestlers. I
get writers all the time, like young writers that try
to come to me and ask me to critique their stuff.
And I always say, I said, look, do you want
me to critique it or do you want me to
tell you that it's good? Because if you want if
you want the latter, then I'm not even going to
bother looking. And if you want the former, then you
are not allowed to contradict anything that I say.

Speaker 6 (02:26:23):
It's you know, it's a big mentality now.

Speaker 7 (02:26:26):
I remember when I first started gaining followers on X
I had a lot of people be like, how can
you harass aw like this or harassed Tony con It's
like a lot of what I say is just criticism.

Speaker 2 (02:26:37):
Yeah, we don't critique.

Speaker 6 (02:26:39):
Excuse me.

Speaker 7 (02:26:40):
If no one's out there to critique it, nothing's ever
going to get better. And the response was always no,
that's not critique. Critique it is helpful. If you want
to critique them, you should tell them what they should
be doing, not tell them what they're doing wrong.

Speaker 4 (02:26:53):
You are saying that, but you're doing it in the
way that's entertaining at the same time.

Speaker 7 (02:26:56):
Yeah, well yeah, and not only that, but you can
do both right like I can. I can say what
you're doing wrong to set up what I think you
can do better.

Speaker 6 (02:27:04):
You don't.

Speaker 7 (02:27:05):
It's that's what The part they didn't like is the
fact that I was giving something. I was saying what
they were doing wrong too. But it's like, if you
just tell people how you can get better, then they
won't think that what they won't think the specific thing
they did wrong was wrong.

Speaker 5 (02:27:17):
Right, we had generations of helicopter moms online to you
and telling you that that that that you know, it's okay,
you gotta participation in trophy because you tried. No, dude,
like you don't get a trophy, you lost. Be happy
if you got some pizza. Winners get pizza and ice
cream and trophies. Losers do the the So now now

(02:27:41):
that we're now, these little brats are now something that
that's supposed to resemble an adult this like, no, sometimes
you need to be told you're a fucking idiot.

Speaker 6 (02:27:51):
Yeah, yep mm hmm.

Speaker 21 (02:27:56):
It's like his attitude would fit right in with the
But anyway, nevertheless, whoever, the best wrestling schools in the
mid Atlantic are They should have had a class in
attitude when you're trying to get helpful hints and.

Speaker 2 (02:28:10):
You're saying things for attention because you're critiquing the wrestling that.

Speaker 5 (02:28:13):
I guess he likes that.

Speaker 2 (02:28:13):
He thinks everything is good, everything's just going great.

Speaker 12 (02:28:15):
We just keep doing what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
I don't even know.

Speaker 21 (02:28:18):
I just think he may have been stung because he
thinks quite often and fondly of himself and that nobody,
because I mean, think of the fucking things I've said
about other people that they never sent me an email
and the whole tell me what I'm doing right based
on what Yes.

Speaker 9 (02:28:35):
You've fucking laid down.

Speaker 4 (02:28:37):
Wonderfully, you are very good at counting the lights.

Speaker 2 (02:28:44):
H fantastic. That was worth the way. Yeah, so guys,
check out check out more of that on Jim Cornette's
podcast over there, with also the stellar artwork from our
friend Travis Heckel. So, yeah, guys, make make sure you
give that a peek. All right, what else we got,
I mean, we got some more super chats to get to.
I don't think we have anything else that's big this week, right, We.

Speaker 6 (02:29:03):
Have the Hogan Hooter thing. If you want to Oh, yeah,
we can.

Speaker 2 (02:29:06):
Talk about that. We can talk about Hogan with Hooters.

Speaker 5 (02:29:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:29:08):
No, uh, we'll talk about that in a second.

Speaker 5 (02:29:10):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:29:10):
John Williams of four ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:29:11):
Nine says, no, I blocked you for being a no
good rapper.

Speaker 2 (02:29:16):
Craig Churchill for five dollars Canadian says Solo is barely
one in a year because the fans don't really care
about him, and not the other way around. John Williams
of four niney nine says, I'm just saying we all
know AW fans are much more rich, or handsome and
sexier than w WE fans. He has said a lot
of those things in real life. Wolf Child for four

(02:29:38):
ninety nine says, here's a weird thing. I've been watching
wrestling since Wrestlmating two or three, and until AAW became
a thing I've never heard of. Dave Meltzer, Oh man,
you lived a blessed life then, my friend. Yeah, I
had never heard him speak before a W. I I
had never actually like like heard him comment on things
before which I missed those days. CW two dollars is

(02:30:01):
wrestling is a story driven business. Who knew? John Williams,
one of the nine says Yeah, Phoenix losing to disc
was sad to see. Yeah, because you're al grande American, right,
Liquid Fox for five thousand candies says, Dave says something me,
he's wrong. Brian replies me, No, he's wrong. Dave responds me,
they're both wrong.

Speaker 14 (02:30:21):
Ha.

Speaker 4 (02:30:21):
Call back to Thursday, Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
With the uh, the Donna Tello Ninja Turtles thing, with
the he's right, he's right, They're both right. MJG for
nine ninety nine. AW canceled the collision taping in Wichita
that was supposed to be this past Saturday show Karma.

Speaker 8 (02:30:39):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (02:30:39):
And the difference with WWE is they're running the city already.
AW abandoned Wichita. Well that's the thing. They weren't running
other shows in Wichita that you know got you know,
they weren't oversaturating the market the way WWE did.

Speaker 12 (02:30:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:30:53):
And then Wing Moonlight for five fifty five with no message.
But thank you very much, Wing, William, let me appreciate
you here forever. Runner for one nine nine says, here's
a hint, Marv. He makes Dave uncomfortable. I mean that
could be just about anybody. MJG for four niney nine
says lost in the Celebration of Dynamites rating. This title
match did less viewer ship than Cope mox diminishing returns

(02:31:17):
is undefeated. I talk about the Moxley Samoa Joe one
huh yeah, I get it, and then BT twenty three
confirms from five dollars. I was talking about when Gabe
Kid the Elite and Swerve came out and with a
bunch of people around the ring mentioned anarchy in the arena.
Oh no, oh yeah, are we gonna see football field
fuckery on Sunday?

Speaker 6 (02:31:37):
Huh not Sunday? No no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. It's they do. They do like a
special dynamite they do.

Speaker 4 (02:31:43):
Oh thank god, Yeah, thank god. I don't have to
sit through that.

Speaker 7 (02:31:47):
I mean, maybe maybe, who knows, maybe they'll maybe they'll
decide at the last minute they'll stow it on there.
But I so far it sounds like it's gonna be.

Speaker 8 (02:31:55):
But by the way, congratulations to uh are good end
of the show. Darby Allen for climbing Everest and hitting
the summit.

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
He did go, he got up the down. Guys, what
would you do if you had somebody that actually had
climbed Mount Everest and they came back to the show,
I would I would be basically be like I conquered
the unconquerable John Moxley, and now I'm going to conquer you.

Speaker 13 (02:32:20):
And then John Moxley is gonna beat you anyway, because
John Moxley is tougher than Mount Everest.

Speaker 2 (02:32:25):
That's exactly what's gonna happen. Okay, come out, did JB
do it?

Speaker 5 (02:32:36):
Did did JB do it?

Speaker 8 (02:32:38):
JB jbo actually planned the w W flag. It wasn't
on Mount Everest, but it was on a mountain.

Speaker 5 (02:32:45):
I thought. I thought he turned around and did Everest too.

Speaker 8 (02:32:49):
He might have probably didn't bring the flag though, But
as far as Darby allen him coming back, you have
him show up in the snowsuit that he wore to
Mount Everest. Slowly peel that thing off. But the things
that you use, like the spikes or whatever that you
use to climb the mountain, he those need to be
his new gimmicks from here on out. Oh my gosh,

(02:33:11):
no more skateboards spikes, Darby.

Speaker 7 (02:33:15):
Darby needs to be the one that does this right,
Like this is the only chance you ever have two
to over Mocksley, Like there's there's no one like there's
there's no one else and there'll never be another chance
to get Darby over like that.

Speaker 6 (02:33:30):
I just don't.

Speaker 5 (02:33:31):
Yes, I think yes, And Tony stupid little fragile mind,
it should be a pillar who does this bus? Using
the four foot lesbian is not going to move a
single ticket.

Speaker 12 (02:33:46):
You know what I do?

Speaker 2 (02:33:47):
You forgot? You forgot homeless.

Speaker 6 (02:33:49):
I would use I would, honestly, I would do it.

Speaker 7 (02:33:52):
I would give him the title at all in and
I would use him as a bridge to get the
title the lastly and you would. And when you, when
you have lastly beat Darby, make it be like a
big underdog story and just have Lashly destroy him.

Speaker 8 (02:34:04):
And then you can lead the universe of KOFE Brock.

Speaker 7 (02:34:08):
Yeah, just have have it be like build Darby up
like he's a super underdog and then Lashley just kills him,
because then you know, you bridge, like I said, bridget Lashly,
whole new thing.

Speaker 6 (02:34:18):
That's that's what I would do first. But okay, that's
why w.

Speaker 2 (02:34:23):
What hul Cogan is doing lately is trying to find
relevance wherever he can. We have seen it with real
American beer, which I have looked at, and you can
find nowhere. We've seen it. Now, We've seen it now
with this wrestling company that he's starting with Eric Bischoff. Now, obviously,
don't get excited, guys, it's amateur wrestling or Greco Roman wrestling.

(02:34:44):
I guess it would would be the less demeaning folk style. Now,
Hull Cogan and real American brands want to acquire the
Hooters intellectual property. This is a part of a mission
to take over exact lands that rep what America is
all about, creed good times, brother, and bring them back

(02:35:05):
to relevance. According to t m Z brother, the.

Speaker 5 (02:35:09):
World these great, big old boobies.

Speaker 8 (02:35:11):
We gotta make kiddies great again.

Speaker 6 (02:35:14):
We all know how he ran his last restaurant.

Speaker 9 (02:35:16):
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (02:35:20):
Oh no, if Hogan, if the Hogan on the Beach
dress code comes back for Hooters, now, yeah, I mean
that is just a.

Speaker 4 (02:35:32):
Delightful little anecdote for us to end.

Speaker 2 (02:35:35):
I have a whole video on Hull Coke and tried
to explain why he got booed, which is everything, but
why he got booed.

Speaker 8 (02:35:43):
They were saying.

Speaker 2 (02:35:45):
They were saying, yeah, it's my it's my nickname is
boo words.

Speaker 7 (02:35:50):
They heard that whole Cogan was gonna buy Hooters. They
were chanting, boobs yeah, brother boo.

Speaker 2 (02:35:59):
I was like, I hear you, brothers, that's why I'm buying.
And they were telling me I didn't even decided to
buy Hooters yet. And I came out and they all chanted.

Speaker 12 (02:36:08):
I walked, I walked in.

Speaker 7 (02:36:10):
And I showed off the twenty twenty two Python's brother,
and they just gave it to me.

Speaker 6 (02:36:15):
I didn't have to pay.

Speaker 5 (02:36:18):
My life. What you're gonna do?

Speaker 2 (02:36:20):
And then they came to me, boobies, what you're gonna
do by Hooters? You got out batch through.

Speaker 5 (02:36:28):
My window, dropped the dropped, dropped my phone.

Speaker 15 (02:36:33):
They had a message from Piper and except you gotta
buy Hooters, brother, you gotta bring them back.

Speaker 24 (02:36:42):
You gotta get the nuts and the balls out. You
gotta get the tatars out. Maybe a little bit of cheat,
but not too much. You're confusing the brand.

Speaker 2 (02:36:55):
Then there was another text from Piper. It said, oh,
and by the way, you but I don't think that
was from him.

Speaker 5 (02:37:02):
Brother.

Speaker 8 (02:37:03):
I'm looking at Hogan's real American beer logo. Did he
get that off a fiver or something?

Speaker 2 (02:37:09):
Yeah, easily. It made it on Canva.

Speaker 8 (02:37:13):
Yeah, dollars please.

Speaker 2 (02:37:19):
Yeah, the free version of Canva. If you look really closely,
there's a Canva logo of water Market.

Speaker 14 (02:37:27):
I am.

Speaker 4 (02:37:28):
I have looked high and low in Florida for this
beer and I cannot find it.

Speaker 6 (02:37:33):
We have it, they they they put it out in
eight states. Apparently I looked into this after you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (02:37:38):
The last time real American beer, brother, in eight states
out of fifty.

Speaker 15 (02:37:45):
Brother, they're all states you know cars that made the
X those are the real ones.

Speaker 11 (02:37:52):
Brother.

Speaker 5 (02:37:53):
Oh oh sorry, let's take that back.

Speaker 8 (02:37:56):
It's Pennsylvania one of those states. Because I don't I'm
tired of waste my time and ask Peter.

Speaker 7 (02:38:01):
No, it's it's it's it's like Michigan. And then it's
like all the states below that, so like Missouri, Arkansas.

Speaker 8 (02:38:08):
Oh hi, you know that kind of stuff, Real American
beer everywhere south of the Mason Dixon.

Speaker 6 (02:38:16):
Midwest.

Speaker 2 (02:38:20):
Oh my goodness. All right, guys, I'm tapping out that
this was a fun show, all right, I dis Why
don't you tell the fine folks we can find more
about you and what you're up to.

Speaker 7 (02:38:29):
Hey, go to at a w disciplinary on Twitter. I'm
there U at Tony diss dot lol. There's our discord.
We hang out there on Mondays and Fridays for SmackDown
in Raw. And then like I said, uh, we're gonna
be Max. Today's with Max's last day of school. Congratulations
Max for being out of school, so we will be

(02:38:52):
uh starting up his thing soon. So check out maxed
out Media, the YouTube channel, and Sunday we'll be here
for oh you know what.

Speaker 9 (02:39:01):
We're on.

Speaker 6 (02:39:02):
The podcast is gonna be updated again soon.

Speaker 2 (02:39:05):
So yes, the audio version this is now actually taking
care of that for me, So that's actually gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (02:39:11):
We're not gonna add the back episodes. We're just gonna
keep going. We're just gonna charge forward.

Speaker 2 (02:39:16):
Maybe we can add like the last three or so,
but yeah, we are gonna just be charging on forward
every Friday. So yeah, yeah Friday.

Speaker 6 (02:39:24):
Check that out. So part of Wrestling Too Network.

Speaker 2 (02:39:30):
Oh gosh, I was about to pull up a I
was looking for a neck Beard quote to put up
and then I just saw the last one that he
did and I'm like, no, not that one. Big thank
you to aw Neckbeard, by the way, the lives man
of this show for keeping you guys company in the
chat that we love you Netbearer. We couldn't do it
without you. You are a truly amazing talent, and thank

(02:39:50):
you very much for lending that talent to the show
Awful Wrestling.

Speaker 4 (02:39:53):
You have got your YouTube channel that has been taking.

Speaker 2 (02:39:56):
Off like a like a firestorm right now, So I'll
just go ahead and talk about that quit lyon Marv.

Speaker 8 (02:40:02):
Listen. You can see me on YouTube Awful Wrestling, and
also on Twitter every Tuesday here at Tony Talk or
Slaying See you Sunday because I've got episode three for
Death of aw coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:40:16):
All right, guys, And speaking of which, before I before
we're gonna call, let you know, we are gonna be
here pretty much all my real day weekend, uh Saturday night,
We're gonna try to do a live stream for Saturday
night's main event before you, guys ask I already asked Trish.
I don't think she's able to make it, but I'm
gonna ask her again.

Speaker 8 (02:40:32):
Really nice looks.

Speaker 2 (02:40:34):
Yeah. So, and then on Sunday, of course, we will
be presenting the ae W pay per view, so you know,
join us for that as well. We'll see you guys
for that. Kevin, anything you gotta you gotta hype up
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:40:48):
Uh, I'll have I'll have some fun announcements in a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 7 (02:40:53):
Yeah, oh real quick, real quick, just just for fun,
since we'll be on audio. If you're listening to this
on audio, go to YouTube dot com slash at tune
Wrestling and check us out every Tuesday Live where you
can interact with us and give us super chats. Oh wow,
have a good time on here, eight pm Eastern Time.

Speaker 2 (02:41:12):
So yeah, you like that. Yeah, I like that a lot,
guys us, So check out tunytwn TV, our sister channel.
New video went up today about Ezra Miller making his
grand return to Hollywood events at the can Film Festival.
There's gonna be more videos, hopefully later this week about
Pedro Pascal about X Men casting rumors, so make sure
you're checking that out. And of course Thursday night Tony

(02:41:34):
Talk TV. Over there on the Tunetown TV channel, Kevin
and I can be joined by Trish, by Lauren, by Nolan,
by Martin, and we are gonna have a huge conversation
about everything going on, including the new le Lo and
Stitch movie, which I will have seen before the show starts.
So thank you guys for joining us. From all of
us here at the Tounytown channels. I'm mov in the
movie Monster.

Speaker 25 (02:41:55):
Now good nay, Now Betty the platypus fer that half
of my Thank youiny dog.

Speaker 2 (02:42:21):
Thank you your piece of trash.

Speaker 18 (02:42:26):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:42:30):
Oh I suppose you want me to say thank you all?
What saying thank you is like jobbing thank you.

Speaker 12 (02:42:39):
It's a little message.

Speaker 26 (02:42:42):
Thank you, oh you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 6 (02:42:56):
Thanks for what I home from all of us here
at Tunytown, thank you, and is like you, thank you,

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