May 27th, 2025- Meltzer Battles Grok, Tony Battles the Truth, Ventura Battles Reality

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sh sh.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Up, so.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
You like please stop box.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
It up.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Alright, it is Tuesday night in Tunytown, and that can
only mean one thing. Guys, it is time for the
fastest rising pro wrestling live stream podcast on the Internet. Today.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
It is time for Tuny Talk Wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Folks. My name is Marvin and I am the Movie
Monster and I am thrilled to welcome you guys back.
I am not recovered yet from that aw pay per view,
both in terms of mentally and physically. Because remember when
I said I don't get hungover, Well apparently that was
from long before I was the age I am now
and didn't involve me drinking half a bottle of kognac. Uh.

(02:10):
So I have been, you know, pretty ravaged for about
two days. But the show must go on, folks, and
I cannot do it alone. I need my awesome panel
here with me, So let's bring him out. Of course, first,
you know him, you love him. He is the kind
of takes that you only get from being an enormous
black man.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Wait what he.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Starts? That is not how can stops? Are you sure
you came you were just just gonna be like really
racist about I.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Had thirty seconds to prepare that. I didn't know that
was happening.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
No, I surprised you with that. No, Kevin had to
go on a business trip for work. Actually he's off
being Hercules from Hercules Legendary Journey. I talked about this
in the Approach today, how he is just like Kevin
is basically a professional Hercules in that every episode of
Hercules Legendary Journey, it's Hercules going to a different town
where like a monster is attacking it and he has

(03:18):
to defeat the monster. Kevin gets called into like problem
properties where like employees are like going nuts and he
has to like fix it. So he's off.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
He's off being Hercules today.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Beard coming in hot? Did you just pull Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
No, I would never do that.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Who's get daddy?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay, well let's bring all pull in for real this time.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, okay, yeah, let's bring awflin now he's not here either.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah. But it's not just the two of us. We
are not you know, yes, yes, it is. Uh, it
is the white guy's takeover. And it's about time disc
white boys summer, you know, my boys summer here in town. No,
but it's not just the dom to say we have
brought in a special guest, a friend of yours actually

(04:34):
disc So I will let you do the introductions and
bring him on screen.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
All right, Yeah, this is my my buddy, Time Traveling.
You can find him over on X and I'm sure
he will plug that. We're gonna call him Time.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Hello, sir.

Speaker 7 (04:51):
He's absolutely nothing to me. Yeah, no, I'm muted here.
I have absolutely nothing to plug. But yeah, my name
is Time Traveling. How you doing today? As they said,
it is white summer here Injunytown.

Speaker 8 (05:03):
I'm very happy to be here.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Time.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'm very very sorry for this is horrible introduction of you.
Like I was expecting him to like maybe like give
some background or like, you know, actually talk about like you.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
He's just like, yeah, this is my friend, it seems Time.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
No.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I don't know what he's willing. You know, we all
like to keep it on the DL around here, so
I didn't know, you.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Know, I just kind of hang out in the background
on the on the webs, I hang out in some
some with some infamous people. Twenty what seventy account followers
that seem to drive the like of certain other podcasts
or Wrestling Newsletter's crazy A been a fan of wrestling
for for a long time, and you can occasionally find

(05:48):
me over at the Star Button Live show, but usually
happens during this so probably won't find me there.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
All right, awesome, Well, happy to have you here today.
We've got a lot to talk about, guys. So much
is going on with aw with WWE, with wrestle Mania itself,
so we got to dive in. But first of all, guys,
as you know, this is a show that is funded
by that is made for you, and funded by you.
We kind of get jenneral super chests to keep the
lights on around here. So we always encourage you guys

(06:17):
to send in your thoughts to be read aloud on
the air. We do stop in between news items to
read your thoughts and make you, guys, a part of
the show. We do break for fifty dollars or more,
so if you send in a super chat of fifty
dollars or more, we will stop whatever we're doing and
talk about whatever it is you want us to talk about. So,
without any further ado blazing bolts, checking in for five
dollars is AI.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Version of Meltzer. I don't study this, I know this.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yes, I did see the irony of using AI to
create an image about Dave Meltzer arguing with Ai.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
We had like we need AI meltzer, we need an
AI meltzer.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
So like the first version of it was like it
was way too cool, Like it made Dave look like
he was really cool, Like it made him all like
jacked and he was like fighting robots looking all like
you know. So I was like, no, no, no, like
like he needs to not look cool. And then it
gave me like a big, like fat, dumpy version of him,
and I'm like, no, he's not fat. Then it gave

(07:14):
me a really skinny version. I'm like, look, just give
me something in the middle. And then it, you know, I.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Argued with the thing, which is you know what we're
making for a day about doing but.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Liquid Fox for five Dallas Canadian says Raf acknowledges Leo
as his leader at the end of TMNT, so Leo
is number one, but without Raf as his rival, he's nothing.
Raf is still my fave, though I just chose to
ignore Liquid Fox that you kept calling him Ralph because
his name is not Ralphel, it's Raphael.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
I think, what wasn't Ralph like their lost cousin.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yeah, it must have been Venus de Milo.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, maybe maybe time here can settle debate with us.
Who's the turtle? Who's your go to? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Who's man?

Speaker 8 (08:00):
I go to turtle?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (08:03):
I think Rafael is like my U is probably my
favorite for his attitude, but my I mean, but Michaelangelo
is uh close.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
So you can tell a lot about a person by
who their favorite turtle is. Like, are you brainy and
you like Donnie? Are you a rebel who likes Raf?
Are you a fake Raphael fan who calls him Ralph? H?

Speaker 9 (08:23):
You know?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Are you are you more of the straight and narrow
Leo supporter or are you the party dude? Which you
know apparently you're the party dude. What can I say?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (08:32):
You know, I I like a good party and I
like Bill little rebellious. Sometimes Dona Tello is cool though
I don't mind done fellow.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
But Raf and Mike.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I saw an amazing Instagram reel today that was like
it was just a stand up comedian and he's talking
about like he's like, man, the Turtles are four teenagers
who look kind of weird and just spend all their
time like doing karate and eating pizza. That's normal. He's
the show should have been about the single rat dad.

(09:02):
He's pretty sure these four kids aren't actually his, but
he steps up. He's not the step rat, he's the
rat who's stepped up.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
My god, you imagine like one of those like ninety sitcoms,
like with Dane Mutant Turtles instead like like Family.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh yes, yes, yes, all of that please, Liquid Fox
or two Canadian says oh and vice versa. Ralph nothing
without Leo. I don't know if he's talking about Raphael
or Ralph Mouth from Happy Days, but either way, Ralph
from the Honeymoon.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, yeah, Ralph.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Cram of course.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Oh yes, that's the ultimate run.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Virginia Sharp for ten dollars says, uh, we take what
we want and after we take lunch, Pad and missus Beekley,
we want the gold sucker McDuff McDuck. We're coming for ye,
Sassina claw gold glow, gold glow, gold gloom. God, you
didn't have to spell it phonetically for me, Regina. I

(09:56):
watched the first season of Autlander, the first season only,
and then I stopped. It was because I was with
a woman at the time who really enjoyed it, my
ex wife, who I don't know if you've heard is
bitch c W five dollars.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Since hello everyone, hope all as well.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
What is aw's excuse for WWE to have three separate
shows in the same city, each doing a higher gate
than double or nothing? I guess the excuse is, well,
you know people were busy going to the WBE show.

Speaker 8 (10:29):
Well, you see there was there was paint drying on
television and people decided to watch that bad.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
BUCkies.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Tampa a too much hotter wrestling town than Glendale, Arizona, obviously.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
Well, you see, WWE has a fifty or seventy year advantage,
and like, it's just not fair to compare the two
because you know, people who like wrestling don't just go
to wrestling shows.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, there were other sports on that night, and you know,
wrestling fans, it's a well known fact that all wrestling
fans like other sports more than wrestling.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Well AEW fans like sports. WWE fans are nerds and
only watch w W.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah those losers.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
Yeah, w AWS were the richest fan base watches but
everyone most ends.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
The original, most successful, and handsomest w E is just
for those marks.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah. Uh, Zach k for nine ninety nine says thanks
Marv awful and dis for the watch party on Sunday.
That was objectively the worst paper you I have ever seen.
Uncle Dave said it was the best show of twenty
twenty five. How good doodle do? Indeed, Mike, did he
really say that it was the best show of twe

(11:47):
That was the worst thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Not the worst wrestling show I've ever seen, though, that too.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
It was legitimately the worst piece of programming I have
ever watched in my life. I'm mostly speaking about that
anarchy in the arena match.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Not only is Dave saying it, but it's pretty much
the going like thing on on in the i w
C right now is that double nothing was so good
and Saturday Nights main event was so bad and uh,
the only thing, the only the only criticism I heard,
all right, I read from anybody any kind of w

(12:25):
a w PAN was they probably shouldn't have put on
the trios match after anarchy in the arena.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Do you think nothing should have gone on after that? Nonsense?

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Car wreck I got.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
I got hammered by a bunch of aw fans because
I pointed out the fact that it probably wasn't a
good idea for.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Them to get hammered for that. Oh, I knew you
were gonna get hammered for that.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I was. I was waiting for. What we're talking about
is dispointed out how maybe the night that you do
the Owen Heart Memorial Tournament, you shouldn't loop let the
bodies hit the floor five times.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
I was waiting for the Martha Hart said she was
okay with that.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Not even that, not even that. I was called woke.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, I was told I was told that I'm reaching this.
I was told that I'm reaching. I was told that
I'm virtue signaling, which I mean, that's a fair, that's a.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Sand based by the woke most virtue signaling wrestling fan
base that's ever existed.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
The same fan base that tried to say that Dom
Live in Rhea were doing a Janelle Grant Vince McMahon's storyline.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Told me that this was a reach that I said
that that that that was. They didn't just play it.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
They didn't just they liked times.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Kenny Omega announce it and get the crowd like you
knowing that he was doing to sing along. These are
some people that.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Were making fun of Yeat parties but had no problem
with making the entire crowd sing let the body, stopping
the match completely and making the entire crowd saying let
the body sit the floor over and over again.

Speaker 7 (14:08):
I want to get this straight. You're the one who's
woke for bringing up that's that optic. Yeah, but what
are they for going on the tangents about WWE and
they're booking like you know, like black ass and stuff
like that or the stuff.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
Oh yeah, women like any of that.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Well, the thing about it is their hypocrites.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
The thing is, also you point these things out not
because you actually feel in your heart of hearts like
hey this was a messed up thing. It's mostly because
like it's what's good for the goose is good for
the gander. Like if w WE did this, they would
have been all over it.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
Well, absolutely, think.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
About that song.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
That song was used for like five different WWE pay
per views, like back in the two thousand, back in
the odds, like it was used for that, it was
used for ec W, it was used for WWE used
that song for everything, and so it just came off
like a WWE mark party.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, I said.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
The example I use was if WWE had made that
song the theme song for Battleground the same night. We
would have got excuse me, we would have gotten headlines
Monday morning saying look how insensitive WWE is for using
let the Bodies hit the floor on the night of
the finals of the Owen Hart Tournament.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
We would have gotten that headline.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
But I'm shocked we haven't gotten the Martha Heart approved y.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
You know why, Mark, That's always whenever they do something
insensitive about owen you immediately get Meltzer doing the Martha
Hart approved it dance.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Do you know why we aren't getting that because they're
not even mentioning it.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
If you go look, if you go look on x
right now, you search owen Hart Bodies, you search that,
you will get my post.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
You will get people who saw my post.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
You won't get one headline, not one new story, not
one journalist, not one clickbait site. None of them mentioned it.
None of them.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
They just let it go.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
And it's not because I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure
Fearless Leader put the word out that way, because look,
I don't think I don't think that Tony was like,
you know what would be really great, Let's play this
in the night of the YEO at heart tournament stupid hearts, Like,
I don't think that was Tony.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
I think it was literally just a ooh, I didn't
think about that, right, It's.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Obviously yeah, it's an op like like like Tom said,
it's an optics issue.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
This isn't a malicious thing that he did.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
It is that they don't have anyone that sits back
there and actually pays attention to this stuff, or if
they do, he doesn't listen to it, because that is
pure optics.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Liquid Fox for two dollars.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Canadian says LLL revenge on the Sims say, Marv, Yes, yes, indeed. Uh,
people get a little too crazy about Trish Jason C
for five dollars. The thing is that I stayed up
late for an aw media scrum and all I got
is this saw great T shirt. This is thanks Marv

(17:15):
surviving that aw PA per view with the press scrum
forged a trauma bond together stronger than his steel chair shop.
We did.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
We did Trauma Bond that night.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think, yeah, I remember, wow, you guys made it.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Well we made a thousand dollars. Yeah, they paid us
one thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
To do it, so we had to do it.

Speaker 8 (17:34):
Man, that is good on, good on the audience for
torturing you guys.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah, I feel I feel like we like I feel
like it wasn't enough.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
No, absolutely, it was absolutely am yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
With two am.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
The best part about it was that as soon as
we got that money, the show just it stopped being
about double or nothing.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh yeah, no, because it became like, okay, we've we're
gonna be here another four hours, so let's just start drinking.
You didn't drink because you were being a responsible parent,
but Awful and I were like.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Cheers, joint done.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I think too, So yeah, I don't even drink, And
so it was I was. I was, Oh boy, was
I gone?

Speaker 8 (18:22):
Wing enjoy it?

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Wing Moonlight for twenty dollars is please do a regular
stream of what you guys did Sunday night.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
It's a whole new avenue you.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Feel like using the great chemistry you all share, and
that must be one of the best effing things I've
seen from you guys since I found love. I'm so
glad that you guys enjoyed it as much as you did.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I know, Yeah, Awful's out here, so I'm gonna say
it out loud. I'm trying.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
I'm going to try to convince Awful to do drinking
and Dynamite next Wednesday when they do a four hour
Dynamite where we go where it's just sitting back watching
four hours of dynami.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
At least then you've got the commercials. At least one
of the commercials.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Might be entertaining. Yeah, true, four hours. Yeah. Virginia Sharp
for five says, one day Marv's gonna pull intro music
swear and it's gonna be Hornswoggle dresses the person that
was intro. Well, not if it's Awful or keV. I
don't I don't think Dylan would do that, and I
think we might catch some flak for it. That's just optics, guys.

(19:30):
It wasn't done on purpose.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Hornswoggle is see the other thing that Hornswoggle put out today.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
The Rock thought he was a Make a Wish kid
the first time I met him, Hey, buddy, the Rock.
The Rock says, hang in there with what little time
you got left.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Oh, he doesn't get that. I'm part of the company. Now, Okay,
what do.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
You do with that situation? If you're Hornswoggle, you just
be like thanks, mister Johnson.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Like, what do you or are you like no, I'm
like no, I'm I'm a work and he's like the
Rocks like, the Rock says, you keep working, kid, you
got this.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
No, no, Brack Rock. I'm on the Yep yep, that's nice.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Rock Rock.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
I'm on the chemotherapy. I know how it is, brother,
you you keep fighting. The Rock believes in you.

Speaker 8 (20:21):
Decently. The ring later on that night. Oh, I didn't
realize Make a Wish was uh letting him get into action.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
He's back. He's back the next week and the Rocks rock.
The Rock sees you've had you dude, your rubble lamp kid,
you got three wishes in there.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I thought you died already.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh no, the Rock would just think he's a different
Make a Wish kid, because the Rock probably doesn't remember
the faces. Ruben Hart for five dollars says a monster
or time traveler and El Grande Americana walk into a Wait,
that's not how that goes Andre Adams one ninety nine
is Dave Meltzer throw a one man didty party after Dijoeno.

(21:00):
I'm sure he did. It was a free his death
other time something that that scrum was a freak off
I'll tell you that much. John Williams and four nine
nine says, sorry, I'm late. I think Tony was put
in charge of my work today because it was a disaster.
Oh boy, sorry to hear that.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Liquid Fox or two thus Canadian goes.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I do like Jericho personal Security more than Leoh.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Ralph, Wow, took me a second.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Ah Ralphis, Yes, that makes sense. Uh VP for twenty
dollars and a message This times is Land Man, great show.
I've been thinking about watching that because I too typically
like Taylor Sheridan. I've watched Yellowstone, well most of it,
and I've watched all of what's the one with sliced alone.
I was blanking on it right now at Tulsa King.
Sulsa King's great.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I loved Sulsa King. So I'm needing to try Landman
because it is constantly like one of the big, you know,
like number one shows on streaming. So we will get
to the rest of you guys super chats later, but
we got to dive in here, guys, because now, look,
we we made one thousand dollars to sit through that
media scrum, but apparently there are people out there offering

(22:04):
much better deals to sit through AW shows or much
better deals for the audience, not better deals for the
people that are doing it, because you can make one
hundred dollars by being a seat filler at AW. Remember
the thing that they don't do.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Dis Yeah never, they've never done this before.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, well, guys, the thing that never happens happened again.
They know they said they do it, but they don't
pay people to be right right for oh aw, all
the wrestling fans.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
AW is paying.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Fans over one hundred dollars to be seen fillers for
tonight's show in Real Rancho, New Mexico, plus all the
free tickets they gave out for the employees around the arena,
et cetera. This is in no way and knock on
the talents who worked there, either as a former or backstage.
All the wrestling marketing department. You guys need to find
ways to make people watch. So this goes into more

(23:01):
of a you know, conversation about it. But one hundred
bucks to sit in the arena with the AW fans, guys,
it takes a thousand dollars to get me to watch
Tony Kahan do a press scrum from the comfort of
my home to get me into that arena, and we're
talking five figures and we're not talking low five figures.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
Yeah, and by the way, the people who paid to
be there didn't even pay one hundred dollars to be
there in the seats that these people are going to
be sitting in.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh no, no, definitely not time. So let's say you're
offered one hundred dollars to go sit through an AW show.
Is that enough money for you? Or do you do
you need more?

Speaker 7 (23:38):
I mean I paid to go to an AEW show like, oh,
eight months ago, so I mean, yeah, I'd probably take
one for free, But what was the experience, Like, I mean, honestly,
I had a good time with it, outside of the
fact that so few people bought tickets that my premium
thing that I did, I paid for like like a
food court, concessions thinging, premium park and all that I

(24:01):
got there, and there were so few people that had
purchased tickets for it, they canceled it. I got a
refund for that, like off of the xtual stuff because
they didn't have enough people to warrant opening opening the
catering them.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was, it was, it was.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
It was certainly fun standing in line in them being like, yeah,
so I know that you stood around waiting for food, but.

Speaker 8 (24:26):
We're not giving that to you. So here's a refund.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
But everything's going so well. This has been the whole
year has been a win.

Speaker 10 (24:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:34):
I don't know if I would go to another show.

Speaker 7 (24:37):
I don't know if I paid to go to another show,
but if they paid me to go to a show,
I'd probably go. I like wrestling, so like, I guess
it turns out like I'm not going to sit down
and watch Dynamite on a weekly basis because it's not
like there's no story to it. But or at least
I'm sorry there isn't a story I feel good about,
uh with with Dynamite, but like a.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
One off show.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
Pay me one hundred bucks to go watch some good wrestling. Yeah, sure,
I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, I I've said it before.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
If if I was going with my friends, i'd go
because I mean, I'd paid.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Twenty bucks to go to an aw show.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
If I'm going with friends that watch wrestling, and we
can just do what we did on Sunday, except together
at a group in person and just hang out and watch.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
You know, you're around them all, I can go back. No,
have you seen those arenas? You can find a place
where there's no one around you.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's true. That is true. If you're like me and
you don't like to be around people, like the best
place to go might just be at aw show.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
I will say.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
The funniest part about going to the show was I
opted not to wear my cmpunk hoodie just for fear
of being an enemy territory. Uh so I I was
hanging out there, but like everyone around me was starting
to try and get cm punk chance started.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, that's God.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Before it seems like the people who go to the
shows aren't the quote unquote sickos. They're not the the
people and the people in the IWC, I firmly believed,
don't actually spend money to support a w not people.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
The people who go to you saw you saw it
in the you know, in the live chats on the
last few people are link link link link link.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Yeah, the people who go to the shows seem to
be more just casual wrestling fans who are going because
it's wrestling, you know, and if that's what it is,
more power to you.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Got no problem with that.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
I get that, especially if you don't keep track of it,
Like if you don't watch AW ever, and you see
they're coming to your town and you're just a casual
wrestling fan, you don't go check stuff on Twitter and
that kind of thing, and you're like, oh, it's twenty bucks,
I can go to wrestling sho sure, why not.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
And then you go and you're like, ohow that sucked,
but hey, you know what, I had a good time.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Like that's how I remember remember, Like I'm talking like
maybe a year more than a year ago, maybe before
we even had this show, dis people were talking about
AW seat fillers and it was just they don't do that,
they would never do that. And then they did a
backstage segment where there was a sign that said seat
fillers this way, and then everybody was like, that's for

(26:55):
the arena. That's not for a w and everyone was like.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
No, it is, and you know, it was just sorry,
go go go for it, no saying like the thing.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
Is like there's no shame in it, like wwe used
to use seat fillers back in the day. The reason
it's so god, the the reason it's so funny is
just because of the fact that like people want to
deny that it's happening, and it's like, no, it's happening.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
One dred percent.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
It's happening just as sure as they're distributing tickets to
people doing Bogo deals by buy one, get three deals
like they're trying to get the venues filled up. The
funnier thing for me is the fact that in spite
of doing all these tactics, they still can't fail these
places up.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
It's not. It is a normal business thing, like you
just said, it's something everybody has to do at some point.
Like you said, WWE has done it every pretty much
everyone has.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Done it right.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
WCW was given away free tickets also, and they were
doing a lot better than AW you know, when adjusted
for inflation. I guess you could say, uh, but it's
just the fact that the fans were so obnoxious about
the fact that AEW would never do something like that.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
And to be fair, WWE probably still uses them, they probably,
but the a reason would be, Okay, we sold seventeen
seats in an eighteen seat aisle and it's on the
hardcam and we need something we don't want to look empty,
so we're gonna, you know, we pay somebody to sit there.
They that stuff happens all the time. It happens that

(28:20):
the oscars. Okay, they do that everywhere, so it's not
a big deal. It's just that they get so defensive
about it and they don't want to admit it. I'd
be curious about if Tony Kahan would admit to it,
because there's a lot of times where I think that, oh,
it's just the fans. The fans are like this, and
then someone finally asked Tony about it and he denies

(28:41):
it too, because he's them.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
He is them in a lot of ways.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean not in the ways where like they have
to think about money, because you know they remember when
when you said online that like, like Tony doesn't think
about money the same way other people think about money,
and everybody like.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Shouted you down, and I'm like, no, it's true. He
doesn't because he doesn't have.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
To, right, he has always solved every problem by giving
people money. It's I had a conversation earlier today about
like what do you think that they were talking about Martha,
and like do you really think Martha would be okay
with this if or do you really think Mark they
would do this?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
And Martha said she was okay with it, and I said,
do you think Martha you did?

Speaker 5 (29:21):
So you did get to Martha.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
It wasn't a big deal like they didn't. It wasn't
one of the retweets or anything.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
But I did get one person who was asking, like,
of course Martha wasn't, And I said, do you think
that she would she would say anything about it, considering
that she is drowning and Tony con money right now?

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Or do you think that Rody Lee's wife would be
upset about.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
Anything they do with his name, considering the fact that
they still pay her bills and they still support her.
And it's just that's how that's how Tony knows how
to make people happy. That's his that's his love language.
It's all he knows. It's all he's done his entire life.
There's a problem, throw money at it, he'll go away.
Somebody feels bad, you know, money, they'll feel better. And

(30:02):
I mean, I'm not even really criticizing it, because it's
probably how he came up. But people who aren't that
way understand that it doesn't work. It doesn't actually fix
the problem. It just makes people shut up, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
That's all he needs, because when you live in your
own world, all all you really need is the silence
of others in order to keep doing what it is
that you do.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Right.

Speaker 7 (30:23):
And if he can't buy it, he he forced it
by way of contract, which I'm just waiting for the
day that someone hid the NDA.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
Doesn't apply to them, blabn't it?

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (30:40):
Absolutely has anybody listened to the Brandy Rhodes uh Tody interview?

Speaker 5 (30:47):
No, I heard. I heard about it today and I
was like, it's either going.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
To be like a stunning tell all or it's just
gonna be vapid, like this is what we do in
our daily day, Like.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Let's how we met when you know you passed me
a no backstage.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Like, yeah, it's already out and we haven't heard about it.
I feel like I couldn't have had anything.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, they came out there and she was like, I
hate Britt Baker, I hate Tony Kahan. They did this,
that and the other thing. We would have heard about
that hours ago. So and look, Cody, first of all,
I'm sure they're both under massive NDAs, but I also
don't think Cody would do that.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
Yeah, I don't know, dude, you think he wouldn't. But
then he goes on Chris van Vlay and you know,
says everything.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Maybe the thing is I think I remember here, what
did he say everything? I mean, he says a lot.
He says more than you think he would. I've heard
rumblings that it's possible that Cody is under an NDA,
but Brandy isn't.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
So that's the only reason I was curious about if
they because.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Think Cody could ask her questions, that she could give
stories and they're they're fine.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
And if you don't think that's if you don't think
that's possible. Remember, Cody changed Brandy's last name to Rhodes
so that they could be announced on the indie scene
as Cody and Brandy Rhodes, right, right, So he is
absolutely willing to do something with his wife to take
a shot at another company.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
But you know what, I on my my playlist the
other day driving in the car and Cody's theme song
comes on, and my wife gets kicked out of it
because when it says like every part out of control,
she thinks it sounds like paw Patrol. So we're listening
to it, and then as I'm listening I'm just kind
of listening to the lyrics and I'm like, this entire
song is just f WWE. And now it's like plays

(32:40):
on w W programming every week. Like the whole song
is is WWE Live and let Rent free in Cody's
head when he was on the indies. Yeah, and who
do you who do you guys think it was that
took it all away?

Speaker 8 (32:55):
But in such a banger's song, like it's it's so
damn good, it was so hard.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
It's crazy that Downstreet has become like one of like
the the wrestling band right now. They do so many
people's seeing they think they do Siglers, they do Cardona's,
they do Cody's.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Don't they do Missus?

Speaker 10 (33:17):
Do you know what?

Speaker 8 (33:18):
I think you're right Actually, now that you mention it,
I do believe they.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Do miss It.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
Yeah, so yeah, because they did that, They did that
picture at one of their wedding, Oh it might have
been Missus wedding where it was all the downstrat. It
was downstrat with all the wrestlers that they've done theme
songs for. And I'm pretty sure MS was in there.
I know Dolph was in there.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
It was.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
All right.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
So so Tony Kahan. You know, seat fillers are happening.
But enough about these losers with dreams. Let's talk about
Jesse the Body Ventura. Uh can we just please someone's
talk to the people at NBC and be like, look,
you don't need Jesse Ventura on these shows. Yeah, because
my god, you see but you know what somebody one

(33:59):
of my friends was like, Jesse and Turna have dementia,
and I'm like, no, Jesse Ventura has always been this
so so Jesse van Dura like, first of all, like
during the cage match, he was like, aw, they could
leave out the door Gorilla because I'm convinced he thinks that, uh,
Michael Cola's Gorilla mon Soon. It's like, ah, they can

(34:21):
leave out the door Gorilla. What is like, Jesse, you
you you've been around this company for how long?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
You know what this sounded like to me?

Speaker 6 (34:29):
Is it sounded like they Jesse showed up and they're like, Okay,
let's go over the script and go, ah, I don't
need to see that crap. I know well how to
how to get this stuff over. So they get to
the cage match and he gets it over by saying
they're never gonna escape.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
And they're like, uh uh oh, you know, uh huh,
don't put.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
That over you know, I mean the thing about escaping
out of the cage and him being mad about it.
I mean that kind of makes sense in Jesse's character
because he did always he was like Bobby right, he
would like criticize the face of matter what they did,
and he'd always go at the heel. So if Drew
McIntyre would have walked out of the cage, he would
have said, that's a smart move by Drew McIntyre.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
But if you know, since Priest did it, how about.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
The fact that he was like he was like Pat
McAfee the first announcer to wrestle a match since me
and I.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Was like, what the same night, the same night?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
But no, you're Jerry. Jerry Lawler has some ma.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
He's announced matches that he's wrestled. But no, no, no,
Jesse doesn't need to be there.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
Way Barrett is Ourge is the new he he plays,
he does that role already and he has the he
has uh he's he has chemistry with test Tour.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Just have way Barrett do it? Why not?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Apparently Apparently it's an NBC thing. Apparently NBC loves Jesse
Ventura and wants him on Saturday Night's main event. Really,
that's what I heard from a friend. I don't know
how true it is, but that's just what I had heard.
It's an investing thing.

Speaker 8 (36:01):
That's insane. I would have thought that was a little.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
They also took every picture of Hogan out of the
opening this time, did they really?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
They did?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Every shot of Hogan got taken out.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
So have you ever seen the Jesse Ventura story, the
nineteen ninety nine biopic.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yeah, yeah, where they did the thing like he narrated,
like they had the actor narrate it as Jess so
walk on the screen.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Everyone's wanted to back in this time, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
But it's so weird because they insert him into things
that he had nothing to do with, Like he's he's
integral to the Montreal screwjob.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Like he's standing there, He's like, don't worry, Brett, it's
gonna be a schmas and.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Then like every I've made sure of it, don't worry.
And then like the screwjob happens, and Jesse Ventura is
standing in the middle of the arena. Well all everything's
going around it, and he's going it was supposed to
be a schmiss. It was supposed to be a schmass.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
And I'm like, Jesse, you had nothing to do with this,
like were you?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I was shocked Bruise of Brody wasn't in there, because
every habitual liar in wrestling now wants to claim that
they were in the room when Bruce of Brody was killed.
The only person that was there was Tony Atlas and
he almost got killed too for it, and.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
We forget a Beard brought it up.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
But yeah, they they made it seem like the reason
that it was in there is because they said that
it happened to him first.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
That he got Oh yeah that way, yeah, you know,
so that's why it was.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Like a big they kind of it was kind of
the turning point of the movie, like it was the
crescendo a little bit.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
It was weird.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
M Yeah, yeah it is. And you can find the
whole thing on YouTube in its entirety. It's it's a
whole all one hour and a half of it.

Speaker 8 (37:48):
It is wild amazing.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
It is just a wild, wild movie full of just
like verifiable.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Lies like it's it is the It is the most
fun I have I had with a wrestling like piece
of media since Dusty's book.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Dusty's book was so wildly out there.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
It was like Dusty said that like Vince Vince Senior
called him from his deathbed to be like, you gotta
stop my son dream. He's gonna kill the business.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
You're the only one who could stop him.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
The only senior worked with Vince Junior while he was
taking over everything on the only person.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Who did a worse impression of or I mean sorry,
the only person who did a better impression or a
worse impression than the guy who played the part in
the movie is Will Sasso.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Do you ever see Will Sasso doing Jesse Ventura on
Mad TV?

Speaker 5 (38:47):
No, yes, it's so bad.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I saw him wrestle a match with Brett Hart and
that was about as much Will Sasso as I needed
in my life.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's because Will Sasso actually doesn't do terrible impressions.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
But the problem is that whenever he did them on
Mad TV, the entire joke was, Hey, it's like the
guy you like if they were a fat guy.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
That's whatever. It's like, right, someone realized they can't. They
can't anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Beard is saying, you guys need to watch the nineteen
seventy four movie The Wrestler. That's the vernan Gania movie, right, yes,
by a fake big chat to aw Neckbeer's the wise
Man of this channel. Hail to the wise Man mod
extraordinary man in the chat there with you guys here tonight.
But yeah, man, it is it is so funny that
Jesse Ventura story, like so like that's what he and

(39:33):
if you've ever heard him do an interview, I mean,
the guy is certifiably insane. Which the greatest interview of
all time. He was on OPI and Anthony and he
starts with his like, oh and John F.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Kennedy was assassinated by aliens from the Milky from from
the Andromeda Galaxy. And you can trust me because I
was a governor or, a Navy seal and Jim Norton
is just like you are a crackpot, like just full out.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
It is the most uncomfortable interview of all time because
Jesse vent Tura and because Jim Norton just calls him out.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
I love the Conspiracy Theory show where he was like,
are you really going to shoot a governor of Minnesota?
An officer of the United states if I walk over
this line and then uh yes. My favorite one though,
was when he went so down the street for me.
In Springfield, Missouri, there's a big underground bunker and Jesse

(40:29):
Ventura went there because it's owned by the government, and
he was like, who knows what they're hiding inside of
this underground bunker? And he tried to get in here
there he drove in, He drove inside of it, and
they kicked him out right and he's like, what secret?

Speaker 3 (40:44):
So they trying to keep from a former governor of
the United States of America? You know what's in the bunker?
They put out something like two days later they're like,
it's filled with cheese.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
There's a crab cheese factory in Springfield, Missouri, and they
got him there by leasing out underground story.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
What are they putting in that cheese? You gotta ask
yourselves these questions. How many mice are they trying to
rope into their schemes.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
With all this cheese?

Speaker 4 (41:14):
And what if they're bringing in extra terrestrials to experiment
with those mice with that cheese?

Speaker 2 (41:22):
You know, never know?

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Well, you know, they say the moon is made at cheese,
and where's the moon in outer space where the space
aliens live. Is this a coincidence? I don't know, folks.
I'm just a governor and a navy seal.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
I could go there on my way to seven dollars
City tomorrow and get a tour for like ten bucks.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
And they walk in and they go it's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Cheese, But they're not showing you the backroom. Diss the
back room, that's where all the stuff goes down. You
trust me, dis I was a Navy seal. What doesn't
want you to know is that they use moon cheese
in their macaroni.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Oh yeah, What you don't understand about that mooncheet as
gravitational properties, all right, So it makes it so that
our US military is able to go and do all
sorts of weird stuff. You eat the cheese and it
gives you propelling powers, especially if you're lactose intolerant.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Abraham Lincoln tried to put a stop to it, folks.
That's why he had a bad day at the theater.
I should know, because I'm a governor.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Get you get the gravity of the moon once you
eat the moon cheese, and then that makes super soldiers.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
I saw that it's a craft cheese as in alien
space craft.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
It's especially bad if you can get some of that
dark side of the Moon sheet, the dark sheet, that's
that's the stuff that'll really miss you up.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
People think that the wrestlers.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Of the eighties were on steroids, but they weren't on steroids.
They were on the dark side of the moon cheese.
How do you think the Ultimate Warrior got that big?
And then one day he came back, folks, and he said,
I'm gonna talk about the government cheese from the Dark
side of the Moon. And where did he end up?
Don't ask me.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I'm just a governor in the Navy Seal.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
Talking about dark cheese being used as a performance enhancement
drug is getting us awful close to jokes we can't
make without awful and kevi here.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
If it's uncomfortably close, folks, then you know you're asking
the right questions. You're darn right.

Speaker 8 (43:44):
Brother Wait bronguye, No, he said, brother too. Yeah, Okay,
we're good, We're good.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
I'm trying to silence you. That's what I'm doing. I'm
from the government.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I'm trying to Wow.

Speaker 8 (43:56):
I didn't know that Marvin the movie Monster was a brother.
I just I can't believe it.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
You're trying to keep people from hearing about the dark
side of the moonsheets, the Martian cheeks.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
Dis what's that stand for? Dystopia? Folks? These are the
questions you have to ask, because the other one.

Speaker 7 (44:20):
When I was shooting the movie, yeah, Predators Aliens, I
forget Predator.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
It was Predator.

Speaker 8 (44:27):
Yeah, when I was shooting. When I was shooting the
movie Predator, that was all using that moonsheets.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I had a special stash. That wasn't a movie, folks.
They want you to think it was a movie. But
me and Arnold Schwarzenegger and and and and Carl Weathers
actually hunted a space alien through the jungle. They just
they filmed it, and they were.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Like, this is gonna get out, so we gotta just
put it out there and claim that it's a movie. Oh,
I tried to start a wrestlers union. Oh wait, that
one's true.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Wait did true?

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Story on to another one?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Have you ever seen the clip of Brooke Hogan talking
about a wrestler's union.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 9 (45:21):
Wait what she was like, yeah, Like you know, me
and ddp's daughter were like, why has there never been
a wrestlers union, like why did no one ever start
a wrestler's union?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
And the guy doing the interview was like, do you
seriously not know why? Why didn't say, like I find
that clip?

Speaker 6 (45:43):
Hold on, I'm pretty sure it was right around the
time she probably had to join SAG and so she
figured out what a union was.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
That was the first time she had ever heard that
word before in her house.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I think I think I found it.

Speaker 8 (45:57):
Quincidentally, she doesn't talk to her dad anymore.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
True, that is true. She didn't talk to her mom either,
so we learned.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Yeah, we learned that. All right, So I found the
clip here, guys.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
When you see the clip, guys, don't worry where it
is not hul Coogan that you're seeing on the screen.
It is actually his daughter. It is very easy to
get the two of them mixed up. But because she
really has his face.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
My god, it's also not Charlotte Flair, who she oddly
kind of looks.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Learned. Yeah, she didn't talk to her dad, but she
had no problem using the using the whole Comania banner.
All right, here we go.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
It's funny because I was talking to uh, talk to
Brittany Page. Actually Diamond Dallas Page's daughter. And you know,
we were like, why isn't there a wrestling union?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Why? And I gave it a Google and I don't.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Really into that, but well, one reason isn't there. I
don't know. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Oh my gosh, that's the funniest thing.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Why is there no wrestlers? You well, there's there's a reason.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Do you think she knew it was her dad before
he said that?

Speaker 6 (47:04):
Because you can tell me, don't You can tell it
looked like there was a moment that I clicked that
she was that he was talking about her dad. Like,
if you look at her face, it looked like there
was a moment that I clicked. And that's why at
the end, she's like, I don't know. Why don't you
tell me?

Speaker 7 (47:17):
You know? Yeah, I read from that because she said
she did a Google search. So my redfrom that was
she did know.

Speaker 8 (47:22):
She was just trying to not say it.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Oh maybe, Uh yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Did you imagine if you were Brooke Hogan you found
that out on Google, that your dad is the reason.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
There's no.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
Right. It's like, you just get done signing your ag,
your AG deal, your SAG deal. Rather you just don't
send your SAG deal and then it's like, man, I
wonder why wrestling never did this. It feels like this
would have benefit of my dad. And then you go
and google it.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
And it's like, oh.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
And wait, Andre the Giant wasn't eight hundred pounds?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Wait a second? All right? All right, guys, so that
was Jesse Ventura. But enough about this geriatric whackadoodle. Let's
get to some of your super chats here. BT twenty
three for ten dollars says, with Trick winning the TNA title,
what happens with Trick? Plus should slash? Does a TNA

(48:14):
wrestler win the NXT title? With Mercedes burying all the
aw women's division, what do other women do at all?
In so, let's take this one at a time. What
happens with Trick? He's gonna defend the title on a
TNA pay per view, probably against Joe Hendry and lose it,
because that's that's kind of what I was envisioning here,
was like, Okay, Trick wins it on an NXT show,

(48:35):
so everyone everyone that's watching sees the beginning of the story,
the much larger audience, and then hopefully they will then
tune in to see the conclusion of the story on TNA. Yeah, bah,
they're burying TNA. They're burying the TNA title by putting
the world champion on WRESTLEMDIA. You know, never mind the
fact that they weren't bearing them Apparently when Kenny Omega
won the title, squashed their roster, lost the title to

(48:58):
Christian on an aw show, while Tony Kahan cut cringy
heel promos about how terrible TNA was with no response.
So should a t and a wrestler win the NXT
town Now, now we're getting a little too into the
beats on that.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
The only the only way you could do that is
if it was Joe Hendry, right, like, if if Joe
Hendry loses, if Trick beats Joe Henry in on n XT,
so then Joe Hendry beats.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
But Joe Henry is not gonna beat ob Fammy No,
So no, that shouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
So they said, with Mercedes burying the a W Women's division,
what do other women do it? All in they watch
Mercedes beat Tony Storm. Yeah, because you can't do a
TVs title because she's got that too.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
She's scared off Willows so bad.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
She's off wrestling men now different, the whole different division
to get away from Mercedes.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yes, John, I just wanted to know.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
Sorry, I was gonna say, absolutely, trust me crazy this
Mercedes stuff because she's absolutely gonna consolidate all the titles
to the other include the Ring of Honor, like that's absolute.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
Where they're going with this.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Probably probably Jilliams.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
John Williams one says, disinvented woke God good dish.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
You're also wanted to blame.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
If Regina's sharp for five dollars is tuning not thinking,
I'm shocked. This is my shocked typing. JPS for two says,
here's two dollars for going.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Through the press scrum. Sorry, apology not accepted.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Now I'm kidding.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
John Williams of four ninety nine says The Rock did
that with a couple of different little people backstage. That's
really funny.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Oh yeah, because everyone everyone the Rock sees under five
feet tall. He assumes to make a wish kid.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
He saw a lexiblicity, was like, you keep fighting, sister.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Little Beefer shows up.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Yeah, hopefully meets the Hopefully he never meets the Rizzler.

Speaker 8 (50:54):
Sounds like uh, sounds like dose.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
The rock meets the rizzor he's like, Oh, you're a
portly looking cancer kid.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I guess I guess your appetite hasn't been affected. Andre
Adams one ninety nine says AW tickets are free when
you buy a forty ounce of old forty ounce of old. E.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Well, there was that thing where.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
It was like when you bought like a hamburger a
cheeseburger meal at that one restaurant, you got like a
ticket to the AW pay per view that they swore
wasn't real. While a con for five dollars is I'll
go if they pay me one hundred dollars, and I'll
cheer for Daniel Garcia and his hip wiggle he passed.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
The thing that pissed me off on that pay per
view the most I think is still Daniel Garcia passing
out in the sharpshooter.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
That was so dumb, dude.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
It's like, like I said, it never works, just tap out.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
If the entire roster of the UFC are man enough
to tap out when the pain is too much, so
is Daniel Garcia. The only time it ever worked with
Stone called Steve Austin and as you eloquently said this
on the show, it was from blood loss.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Yeah, and Daniel Garcia was in like the fifth most
important match on on Double or Nothing.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Does it really worth doing a tag match?

Speaker 9 (52:12):
He was a tag match to set up these guys
for their feud with another guy.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
And how bad is it when Daniel Garcia, Okay, they
had Nigel McGinnis in the match, what does it hurt
Nigel McGuinness to take it to eat a pin? They
didn't have to do that. They weren't saving anybody. All
they had to do was penn Nigel or hold on
a sharpshooter, hold on.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
The frames broken. Huh.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
If you can't tell I didn't watch Double or Nothing.

Speaker 8 (52:44):
Daniel Garcia was in a match. He was on a
team I'm assuming with Nigel and they they had Daniel Garcia.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Bald yes bald FTR locked him in a sharpshooter h
and as he climaxed from doing Brett Hart's move, Daniel
Garcia passed out from the pain.

Speaker 7 (53:03):
The only time you should be passing out, in my
opinion personally, is either blood loss or if you have
a blood choke on, like if someone that's in like
over your naked choke.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
Yeah, yep, passing out, passing out from pain.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
If you were at that point, guys, you're gonna tap
out because because the only way you're gonna get to
the point where the pain is that intense is if
they break the limb.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Right, it's not a sleeper hole.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Like the only reason like sleeper holes in bear hugs
they used to do with the arm because you're cutting
off their air, so it makes them pass out. You're
not cutting off their air when you do a sharpshooter.
You're just hurting their legs. So there's no reason that
you should pass That means that the pain a bald

(53:47):
UPTR his sharp shooter is so powerful that it makes
men pass out in pain when red heart stings.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
None of them were able to do that, but bald FTR.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
And as we said on the stream, like not only did.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
He pass out, you know, don't did the pain not
make him tap out? But having the thick, meaty erection
of bald f TR pressing into the back of your legs,
I would I would have tapped.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
I'm just saying you made time throw up.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
But just.

Speaker 8 (54:23):
I just no, just no, no, no, no, how about no,
how about no? Scott new like I it she turns me.

Speaker 7 (54:35):
You know what, you know what Daniel Garcia passing out.
That does make a lot of sense. I like, yeah, no,
I I guess he doesn't have a pain color.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
That's that's that tells me that probably iron work, iron deficiency.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yeah, he does look like he has an iron deficiency.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
He does look like he looks like a less athletic
James Murray from Impractical Jokers.

Speaker 8 (54:57):
So let's just keep at him. Cole out of that, please,
he might he might fall apart.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 10 (55:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
John Williams forty nine. His seat fillers are also used
when someone leaves their seat to go use the bathroom. Now,
I don't think they're used on to that extent because
like what a eight like, you know, maybe it's like, oh, well,
you know the women's tag team title matches going on,
release the seat fillers because everyone's going to the bathroom.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
They are, Yeah the oscars, Yeah, at the oscars. That
that's what they're used for. I don't think there.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I can't imagine they being used for that at a
at an arena event. Andre Adams One Night nine is
Daniel Garcia. Then who isn't strong enough, Oh Diegersia, When
who isn't strong enough? John Williams for four nine nine
s his TK. My dad also gave me money to
keep my internet friends to stay away. One KQ for

(55:47):
two dollars. New Zealand says Cody has said on CVV
A w Aw's problem is their fans. I had not
heard that.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
That's a great quote.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
MJG for one night. And of course who would hate
those fans more than and Cody? Please buy lots of
high noons for white boys Summer, White Boy Summer, White Summer.
One KQ for two dollars. New Zealand says, who needs Ventura?
Let's just get will Sasso, Yeah, Virginia shut for five dollars,
and executives remembering when they watched Saturay Night's main event
as kids, going we need Ventura.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
It does not surprise me.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
What was that?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Okay, real quick, Mark, you'll know this. You'll know this, Mark,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
Which one was the one where Ww's making the deal
and they're like, uh, they kept bringing up like Chris
Jericho and all the attitude Erica was it was it
with the like with its it wasn't Spike because of that,
so it couldn't Man, it was it Fox.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
It was Fox, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (56:39):
They where they kept asking about Jericho and uh Yoka. No, no, no,
it was the Saudi Prince. I'm sorry. You remember the
Saudi Prince was asking for Jericho and yoko Zuna.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Yeah, well well Palin, well Pala Yokozun is dead.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Huh that we can fix that.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
Isn't that when they brought some other random person who
was like a large guy. I forget they brought some
random like they brought some random talent and that made
no sense to be there.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
I don't remember.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
I do remember that was Their response was to make
Undertaker and Caine team up to fight Shawn, Michaels and
Triple Ah.

Speaker 8 (57:15):
Yes, yes, that was such a word match.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
It was the worst match ever watch Seawn. I can't
believe you did that. Liquid Fox for two dollars Canadians.
Is by the way, Jr. Having surgery for cancer Prance
for Jr? Absolutely, guys. Uh so for what I have heard, Jr.
The surgery was successful. The doctors were able to they
believe remove the cancer. There was colon cancer, so you know,

(57:40):
we we are hoping that the goat gets better soon,
you know, pulling for you, Jim, because you are the
best that's ever done it. John Williams, for one, says
Jesse and Roddy go fuck No, this is Rodney, that's
my that's my tag team partner. Yes, okay. So here's

(58:00):
the thing. I think we learned this on Toney Talk TV.
Was that Roddy Piper and Jesse Ventura did a that
was on pilot together. Was on here the pilot called
tag Team.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Yeah, because me and keV both watched it when it
like for some reason, I.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Thought Martin Stone brought it up on Tony Down TV.
That might have also happened, but I I never know,
because I remember Jesse saying about Roddy. He's like, I
can't be uh impartial, Grolla, that's my tag team partner.
And I was like, I guess they tagged at some point,
but no, he was talking about the show tag Team.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah. I still say, I think I will. I'm going
to watch that on with people.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
If they want to come around, I'll tell I'll figure
out a time and I'll post it there.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
I want to watch that.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
So Regina shop for five dollars, says, Oh, and Wendy
Richter was the first screw job. Remember Wendy, it was
supposed to be a schmas Wendy.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
I hope to break it to your I hope. I
hate to bring it to your Regina. But Whndy rich
was not Certainly not certainly that was something that happened
every Thursday back in thetes and sixties and seventies.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
John Williams of nine, Since I heard it was Hogan
is the reason that they don't talk. And from the
sounds of it, it was because she got married.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Oh well, brother, we all know what kind of people.
I didn't want her marrying.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Nope, we can't do that. We can't do that. We
don't have that tonight.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (59:20):
White boys summer, White boy summer.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, that is the side effect of white boys summer
is we can't do those jokes because we're laugh.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (59:31):
I've been in talks to my people.

Speaker 7 (59:32):
I have a card, but unfortunately I don't know if
that actually applies not. They've given me some real bad info.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Yeah, Awful gave me the card, but it only works
of Awful's here. It's stupid.

Speaker 8 (59:42):
Yeah, it's in like really bad fine print. I don't.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I hate that.

Speaker 8 (59:47):
I hate it.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
The one card that I have is Hornswoggle told me
I'm allowed to say midget, so that one.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Works anywhere, that one's accepted anywhere. You can use that
seven L that.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
MJG for four nine nine says they just showed trip
h on the Knicks Pacers game on TNT. It's meaningless
but funny, very far behind, very good vibes at White
Boys Summer rerjuis shot for five dollars is I don't
see what the problem is. When bald Fdr put Garcia
in the sharpshooter, I passed out. But John Williams to
one that's is ungrateful brats. Cody ended racism for them.

(01:00:21):
It's true we did them the power of his magic baby.

Speaker 7 (01:00:28):
So ungrateful Cody has done so much for this world
and yet so underappreciated.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I agree, yep, uh so, all right, enough enough about
enough about Cody. Let's get to Tony Kahan at the
scrum that wouldn't end, so Scorpio Sky, we needed to
get a little background information on this. So Scorpio Sky
talked about the fact that he's unsure why he's not
being booked by AW. So he says my career, I
should have taken her nose dive, hasn't it. The reality is,

(01:00:55):
I don't know what it is that's stopping me from
being used in AW. I don't know if there's bad
blood or not. I know I'm healthy and I've been
healthy for a long time, and I've been wanting to compete.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
It's just one of those things where what can you do?
You only have so much? Say you have this much? Uh,
say you do what you can. That was from the
Creating Character podcast. So somebody actually asked Tony Kahan a
real question at the scrump. I don't know how they
got in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I don't know what happened to them afterward, but they
asked him about this, and he said, I like Scorpio Sky.
It's interesting Scorpio Skuy's name came up recently. You mentioned
he was looking to come back, and I had talked
with Scorpio Sky about a different ideas and things we
could do in greater detail. Scorpio Sky is someone who's
been here from day one and who I have a

(01:01:46):
lot of respect for. I really like and I saw
he said that, and I actually had talked to Scorpio
Sky and we ended up going with it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
When you see his blabber put down in actual words,
it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I have talked to scorpios Skuy about doing something and
we ended up going with something in a different direction.
It's kind of a long story, but it would make
a lot of sense and context, but maybe not now.
At this time, I had an idea for Scorpio Skuy
that I think was a good idea, and we talked
about it, and I think it didn't work out for
reasons between us, but also it's totally a legit thing
and I'm fine with it, and I would like to
use him for a different idea when the time's right.

(01:02:23):
Like that is just blatter.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
Can I just point something out here?

Speaker 7 (01:02:29):
Not only could aaw not tell stories, Tony can't even
tell a story in his damn pressor right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
This is the guy that everyone thinks is the master
storyteller of the wrestling world.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
This guy can't string two thoughts together.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
He repeated the same thing four times in these two paragraphs.

Speaker 8 (01:02:47):
Like all he had to say here is yeah, I
like Scorpions guy. I like Scorpio.

Speaker 7 (01:02:53):
We've talked about a few things here and there. We
haven't been able to come to agreement on anything, but like, hey,
I'm keeping an eye on I'd like to have used
the near future.

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
Yeah, that's it, easy, easy, easy, no big deal. You
just say, you know, yeah, you know what. I have
a lot of respect for the man. Unfortunately he hasn't
fit into our creative plans recently. I pisched a couple
of things. So when we didn't like it, So when
we find the right thing for him, we'll bring him in.
If not, then he's getting paid handsomely.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
There you go. There's your good little statement.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
There he said Scorpio Sky's name six times in like
five sentences.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
That's it's one sentence, isn't it is? There is there
a period there anywhere? So go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
At least he didn't say, great, that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
It is true. No, I don't see it in there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Was it was it Tiny tuns or or Animaniacs.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
That had this cad I'm sorry it was four sentences?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
Was it was it animani Actually Tiny Tune Adventure who
had the baby who would just go And one time
my mom she told me this and you know, they
went on like that over and over.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Okay, so one time, like Andy Bee.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
One time, Andy Beemer's mother had had a dream that
she was eating a big marshmallow and she woke up
and her pillow was gone because.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
She ate it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Okay, Bye, I like Scio Sky.

Speaker 6 (01:04:13):
It's enteringto in Scorpio Skys didn't come on recently because
you mentioned that he was Scorpio Sky and he was
looking at like that's how it sounds every time Tony talks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
So yeah, buddy of mine asked me, and I didn't
even have the transcript in front of me, but he was.
He was like, oh, I didn't get happen in Scrumma.
So well, somebody asked Tony a legit question about Scorpio Sky. Goes,
what are you say?

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
I said. I think it was something like, you know,
Scorpio Sky, he's a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Great wrestler, and I really like wrestlers, And I really
like Scorpio Sky because he's a wrestler and wrestlers are
something that I really like. Here, you know, this is
where the best wrestle. But Scorpio Sky. I mean that
guy's a great wrestler and I really like that. And
I really like wrestlers because aw is you know, we're
the best wrestle and you know, you talk about Scorpio
Sky and man, he's just such a great wrestler. And
just I really like wrestlers and wrestling wrestling wrestlers because

(01:04:52):
this is where the best wrestle. And so, you know,
to answer your question, Uh, you know Scorpio Sky, you
know I talked to him, and he's a really great wrestler.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
We love Scorpio Sky like it's that's literally how he talks.

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
Yeah, and and and well he talked like that until
someone mentioned WWE, and then his eyes turned red.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
And he yes, we'll get to that in a second,
but we have to. So obviously something happened where somebody
called into question.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
What Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Called into question Tony as a boss, right, so yes,
so we all know what's coming, right absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
Jason Alexander recently explained the heartfelt reasons behind his decision
to sign with AW rather than WWE.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Well, part of the reason was WW probably wasn't interested
focusing on the importance of feeling genuinely valued by his employer.
His experience with AW president Tony Khan left a strong
impression on him. During Conn's visit to impact during the
lockdown era, I got this impression that as a boss,
he's somebody that actually cares for his employees. You're not
just a number, and you're not just an asset to
that company. He actually cares about you. Yeah, until he

(01:06:02):
doesn't want to resign you, and then he hides under
his desk and hopes that can forget his phone number.
This sense of care and personal connection was crucial for Alexander,
who compared it with the less personal corporate atmosphere he
believed when he face believed, he'd face elsewhere. I just
wasn't comfortable working somewhere where I would just be an asset,
something that you could just toss away in an instant.
Hold on a w is where you went because you

(01:06:24):
didn't want to just be tossed away in an instant
to ask some questions around that locker room.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
Seriously, I feel like the other caveat there is it's
a place that Tony really cares about you and he
really loved you until you say something positive about one
the mpunk.

Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
Or until a new toy comes in.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Yeah, until he just forgets about you. Yeah, he just
flat out forgets about you.

Speaker 8 (01:06:54):
Like Camille's doing great right, or the.

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
Person that they brought in to replace Camille is now replaced. Okay,
that's how far, that's how deep we are down this
rabbit hole. The people that they're bringing in because they
forget about people are now being forgotten.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
Right right, Culture Casino, what are you doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Culture?

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
You never watch wrestling? What do you what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
They're here the l bar? Oh my goodness. Culture. Oh Culture.
So he says, I wanted somebody that's gonna care about
me and care about the fact that I have a
family that I'm feeding. Well, just talk to bald FDR
because you know, anyone who's right now, we're we're, you know,
assaulting bald ftr's family, apparently according to what he says,

(01:07:45):
and that I do have such a passion for this.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Ultimately, it was Aw's culture of compassion and respect.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Embodied by con that convinced Alexander to make it his
new home source Shack Wrestling.

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
Oh my gosh, Hey, I hope, I hope Young Jason
is as as marflex problem.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I hope Young Jason having a wonderful, wonderful time.

Speaker 6 (01:08:10):
Are you bringing up the fact that Marv said Jason
Alexander and not Josh Alexander because I'm picturing George Constanta
and oh did I say?

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Did I say?

Speaker 10 (01:08:17):
Ye?

Speaker 7 (01:08:19):
Now, now I need to get an a I image
of George Costanza in UH in a wrestling thinklet with
UH with the head gear.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I said, Jason Alexander, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
The chat'smen talking about it. I heard it too.

Speaker 11 (01:08:35):
I just didn't want to interrupt you to like the joke.
But oh my god, that's really funny. Actually, I was
just watching Seinfeld. Actually, Tony Corn Jerry, he's the best.
He pays me all this money. Interrupt to do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I think they're gonna catch me. You think that's Jerry.
It's like I went to the Yankees and didn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Yeah, he slept under his desk.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
I want to sleep under my test and Tony Commas
already under there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
That's just that's just that's just Chris Daniels at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Uh So Paul White then the AKA The Big Show,
confirmed that he's still with a w and he's happy
with the company.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
And Tony const Direction boy, he said, I'm stupid are
you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:09:25):
I saw this, and you know what, this reminded me
of Mark Henry Mark.

Speaker 7 (01:09:33):
Henry said that him and Paul had a had an
ongoing like rivalry where they would they would go out
of their way to see who would go the longest
about talking to Tony Khan, like they would just dodge
his calls. They were doing everything they could to avoid
talking to him.

Speaker 10 (01:09:53):
I'm very happy with him and what he's doing and
what he's doing. He's paying me a million dollars a
year to do nothing. We need to.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
We've gone so long without explaining that joke. I had
to stop you because he explained that voice.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
What the voice, Yeah, it's just our big show voice.
It's the big show voice to Kevin and I have
been doing for twenty years with the Big show with
the Big Show. Got sent to ov W because he
was in a vignette with Kai and Tai and he

(01:10:28):
called them goof g O O F s and some
people thought it was a racial slur, and so he
got sent to ov W where we used to just
like so so Kevin and I used to always go ah, sad, goof.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
Sad, goof this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Every time you do it, I just hear Homstar from
Home Star running, Oh I'm a cup of coffee.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
You know, that's what he goes He goes on to say.

Speaker 10 (01:10:56):
I appreciate Tony in the way he treats talent. He
doesn't make me wear a diaper and call myself.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Baby New Year.

Speaker 8 (01:11:06):
They're gonna make me.

Speaker 10 (01:11:08):
The kind of liberty that Tony gives talent to discover
themselves and find themselves because he heardn't talk to him
and just pays them a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Oh okay, it's starting to hurt my voice now. It's
not a cookie cutter process. In aw, they're not saying
this is your ring entrance, this is how you pose,
this is what you wear. Show.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
Show knows exactly what he's saying here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
I'm sorry, show knows exactly he is slamming a W
without slamming a W.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Right translated you. You've already translated it four times.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
This is I'm happy that he's paying me seven figures
to do nothing. That's what this is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I count paid a lot of money to just be
big and be alive, to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Not be in WWE. That's what he's being paid.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
You.

Speaker 10 (01:11:58):
He's spent a million dollars to buy Captain and Sato.
We didn't do nothing with it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Uh aw. Is very grassroots, authentic, and for me at
this stage of the game, I appreciate that. I appreciate
being left alone.

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
It's grassroots and authentic, which means they only message me
when they want me to say something nice about Tony.

Speaker 10 (01:12:29):
And then I spend the rest of the day tweeting
I my w mole account. I mean, nope, nope, nope.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
That is not a confirmation.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Guys, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
We just always liked the joke. That would be really
funny if the Mole was a big show. We're actually
pretty sure it's not, but it's really funny to guess.

Speaker 8 (01:12:45):
That it is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
H All right, what else we got here?

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
So, then Tony Kahan was asked a question about, you know,
a certain thing that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Well, we'll talk about that. Hold on, let me let
me get I gotta look at this in order. Where
is the Tony Ah? Yes, So he was asked about
the fact that NXT keeps counter programming him, which this
is my favorite thing that he says, by the way,
because when he freaks out about this, he's acknowledging that
the Developmental brand is his direct competition, right like if

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like wwe you know before they were working with them,
wouldn't have freaked out if TNA ran a show on
the same night as them, would just be like, oh, well,
that's a really dumb idea for them.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
But you know, Tony actually like gets threatened by it
because I really know why.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
So people ask why WWE is constantly counterping me, he goes,
it's pretty consistent. I'd say it's the most consistent event
head to head scheduling I've seen since Jim Crockett Promotions.
So a lot of scheduling went that way. I could
tell you this will go a lot differently than that did. Yeah,
Jim Crockett Promotions continued on and became WCW, which by
the way, had a few more shows that went head

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to head with WWE programming than that.

Speaker 10 (01:14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
Yeah, he keeps comparing himself to Jim Crockett constantly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
But he's not like he's at best, He's not even
he's not even David Crockett.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
No, head turner was never his hands on true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
So I just you know, so now you know, Trip
was like, oh, yeah, because Bash at the Beach, I'm
not the beach. I should do Bash at the Beach.
But great, American Bash. NXT is going to go head
to head with all In apparently, so Originally it was
supposed to be the Evolve.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
Pay per view that went head to head with all In.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Now it's an NXT pay per view with a w
CW legacy name tied to Dusty Rhodes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Well, the weird thing is, I don't even know if
NXT he's going head to head.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
I don't know what time all In starting to be fair,
but NXT's during the day and Saturday nights may have
been at night. So either way they're getting you know,
crushed clearly, But like, I don't know, Okay, we talked
about it on Sunday. This is about the time where
WW usually step in and say, all right, let's get

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rid of these guys, right Like, this is around the
time that w W they've had their fun, It's it's time,
it's time to it's time to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
You know, kill them off a little bit. But also
I just don't know if they even pay attention. Right, Like,
thing is, do you do you want?

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
Do you want a wrestling war or do you not
want a wrestling war?

Speaker 6 (01:15:34):
Yes, because Tony was asking for the smoke, he was
asking for it Challenger.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
We're in a war. We're a Challenger brand. Well, this
is how they treat challenger brands. This is how they
treat companies that they're at war with.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
You.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
You you you know Vince, you you know, Vince didn't
care about what you did.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
But now you have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
You have upset the balance of contract payouts and you're
you're upsetting the problem. You're completely like, you know, tilting
the profitability index of the entire business.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
And Trip is a spiteful bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
So you have poked the bear and now the bear
is swiping back at you, and now you're complaining and
crying and so are you sick of fans? Really interesting?
Wwe announced Great American Passion Atlanta. Well what Saturday Night's
made event on Saturday Night and Evolution on Sunday. And
I also didn't announce when Bash takes place.

Speaker 8 (01:16:25):
You know who I blamed for this too.

Speaker 7 (01:16:28):
Ultimately, at the end of the day, Yes, dis I'm
glad you appreciate him. I ultimately blame I ultimately blame Swerve. Yeah,
all of this comes back to Swerve lying to Tony
about contract tampering and Tony lost his mind after that,
Like that was like the pivotal moment where Tony decided

(01:16:51):
that he was gonna lose his damn mind about all
of stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:16:55):
And I firmly believe that, like a lot of this.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
Where is the Tony Khan that who's fault swerves fault?
Just a few years ago, Tony Khan when compared himself
to Jim Crockett by saying, they want to come after
me like Jim Crockett, Well, I have way more money
than Jim Crockett did, so bring it on. So they said, okay,
they're bringing it on. And then and then he says,

(01:17:21):
I can't believe they're attacking me like this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
You know, I'm just a small business owner, poor Tony.
You think he says that all the time, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Where's where's the other the other Dave clip about this,
like the other day of quote about this and I
was skipping ahead, but we just read we just read
this one?

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
This one?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
No, I thought that was the only one. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I thought we had one where he was like, uh, well,
you know he was talking about the like the balance
of power and this that and the other thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Oh oh yeah, the there's one that says old let me.
Look here, I think it is.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
We need to put these in some kind of order.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
They are in order. It's just it's just you're pulling
them out of order, which changes thing.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
You need to read my mind and put them in
the order that I'm going to do. There we go, well, yeah, uh,
that's not it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
That's not it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
Well, it is comparing it to raw. That's why I
thought you might mend it. I don't know, dude, Oh
here it is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Here it is. I don't know why it's labeled Dave
sal oh salary salary yeaheah. So they're saying they need
to realize the counterprogramming with this does nothing but hurt
the wrestling business as.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
A whole, really, because the narrative has always been the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Competition and direct competition, especially talking about the Monday Night wars,
is what drives the business forward as a whole, and
it makes everybody have to be their best. But he
goes they want to eliminate competition and keep salaries from
rising and keep the door shut on someone else being successful. Well,
aw was already failing before Trip started flexing his muscles.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:18:52):
I hate this salary conversation because it's like no, Yeah,
I'm sure WW would like to keep contracts down to
some creep like with their bucket system.

Speaker 8 (01:19:01):
If you become a star, you make money, lots of money.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
And there were you know, I've heard recently that they
were talking. People were saying like, uh, it's not that
way anymore. It hasn't been that way since Jim Ross
was there. Blah blah blahlah blah. Dom just did an
interview where he said that the more popular he gets,
the more money. He doesn't have to change his contract.
He just makes more money when as he gets more popular,
because people buy his merchandise, people buy his action figures,

(01:19:27):
people buy.

Speaker 7 (01:19:28):
This, you know this do you know one of the
things that turned me off to MCM when they left WWE.

Speaker 8 (01:19:35):
They went on Maven's podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:19:37):
And they did an interview, and in that interview, Maven
was basically like, oh, so like the bucket system and
then they were like, no, they don't do that anymore.
And he's like, oh so, how is it? And they
were like, all right, so they give you this set
amount of money. Uh, and like, you know, that's kind
of your base. I'm sorry he didn't caught the bucket system.
He caught it the down the downward Garans like the

(01:19:57):
down the downside guarantee in the upside, and they don't
do that anymore. And then they caught in a bucket
system and they went and basically described downside versus upside,
where it's like, yeah, you're guaranteed to make let's say,
five hundred thousand dollars a year, but like if you
go and you do X, Y, and Z, you can
get more money for being on certain ples and you
can get more money. And once your bucket's full, anything

(01:20:18):
you make over that guarantee is now take home. It's like, oh,
so what Maven said, got it?

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Literally the system that's always been in place.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
You have your downside guarantee and then you make whatever
over that, Like the company is banking on you making
over that because that's the profit. That's the profit margin.
Boy and Evans is like you kids, leave my boy
Mountzer alone.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
The only difference between now and back then is that
you start at a higher base salary.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
The downside guarantee is always like five x what it
was back then.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
There were guys making five figures in the nineties, you know,
And could you imagine a wrestler right now coming in
being like I'm making like thirty grand a year when
they work for WWE.

Speaker 8 (01:21:08):
You know, I think I don't know what to be
around that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
And I heard, yeah, I had heard NXT was in
the forties and fifties.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
Yeah, that's fine, NXT should be right, like because you
don't know if those guys are gonna work out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
But once they're up on the main roster, they're all
making six Well.

Speaker 7 (01:21:22):
I mean, I THINKTL said they don't have to do
like a lot of the travel that the folks in
the road, So they're not paying for hotels, do not
do anything that like, they're they're operating in in their
base area.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
And there's not lot plus overhead, No for nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:21:35):
Sixty or seventy grand a year in Tampa.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Is pretty good. So we're talking about Tony Cohn and
his reactions to things and maybe why his reactions things
are what they are. Kevin Nash waited on that today
because he wants you guys to be nicer to Tony
KH because he's special. This man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
They got to give a guy a little bit of slack.
I mean, that's some serious man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Fuck it. I had a lot to kid.

Speaker 12 (01:22:01):
Well, I don't think that that they were making fun
of that so much.

Speaker 13 (01:22:06):
He's diagnosing him, you know, he's just like.

Speaker 6 (01:22:17):
The first time I almost got canceled off X was
for this exact same thing where I looked at Tony
Conn and I was like, you know, I mean, I
think he might just because everyone was calling him a
drug addict, and I was like, I think he might
just be autistic. Guys, think like he has a lot
of the same stuff that my kid does. And they
were like, I can't believe you just called him the
Internet word. And it's like, no, I was saying, I

(01:22:38):
had to get word. Yeah, apparently that's a bad word
on the Internet.

Speaker 8 (01:22:42):
Wait, I thought the Internet word was the respect for Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
They're both Internet words. No, that's the gamer word. That's
the game my bad my bad game award.

Speaker 8 (01:22:52):
Oh no thought, but I thought redacted was the other one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Anyway, I saw a great earlier today. I had to
send it to keV immediately. It was literally it was
a standa comedian w was who was like, and by
the way, guys, I'm using them using these words for
the sake of you know what. Actually, never mind, I'm
not even gonna do it because someone's.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
Gonna just clip it and be like what he said,
I'll tell it to you after the show. Never mind,
go ahead this.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
No, that was it just saying that's why, that's why
I got in trouble with the same thing that Kevin's
talked about right now.

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
Yeah, so let's let's see what else Big keV had
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
It's just a kid.

Speaker 12 (01:23:27):
Well, I don't think that that they were making fun
of that so much as some of the Uh yeah,
but who's to say the things he he has said?

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Yeah, but at what point of the spectrum is he? Like,
I haven't I've never sat down and had a conversation.

Speaker 12 (01:23:45):
With the Was this confirmed before we say this?

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Like? Is this confirmed that he's on the spectrum?

Speaker 14 (01:23:52):
Are we all right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
I got a zoom in Kevin ash Is like, I'm
so annoyed by things like facts and having to confirm them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
On that so I could I'm sorry, Okay, if you're
gonna pick between his actions and say he's probably on
the spectrum as is Elon Musk, as is ninety percent
of the people, or he's just another billionaire crackhead, which

(01:24:24):
one would you tend to believe.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
I don't think he's a crackhead.

Speaker 8 (01:24:31):
What who things could be true?

Speaker 10 (01:24:32):
keV?

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Yeah, you don't think an autistic person could do a
line like come on, keV, I love how like Nash's
laziness has now gotten to the point where like he
doesn't even want to like look.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
Up facts, like he barely seems like he wants to
speak quickly.

Speaker 8 (01:24:53):
In Nash's defense, he's pretty baked here.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
Oh yeah, he's very baked.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
You could tell if that's what you're asking me, right,
Oh my goodness, big keV.

Speaker 7 (01:25:04):
Who who amongst us has not been bathed and talked
out there as at least once?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
I think, is it's such a bad thing to say
someone's autistic nowadays, because don't kids like brag a bat
every every every functional adult that that looks at their
phone once while watching TV today is like, I'm autoistic?
Oh did you get medically diagnosed? Nope, I just know
I know in my heart.

Speaker 5 (01:25:25):
I'm like, okay, that's not really how that works, but
you know it's.

Speaker 7 (01:25:32):
You know, I've read a Twitter threat, I read an
ex threat, and I was able to do self diagnosed
pretty easily, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
No, one hundred yeah, No, all it takes is to
read one Twitter thread and then you're you know, I
just so yeah, so Kevin Nash weighing in on the situation. Yeah,
but like you said, time two things can be true
at the same time.

Speaker 8 (01:25:54):
Well, throwing speed and coke and you gotta, you gotta
what is it a quad? I don't even know what
that would be A Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
The reason, the reason why, the reason why I get
so mad at all the self diagnosed autism is because
not to get too deep into the Montanaro family weeds here,
but like I have a family member with autism, you
know who, you know, I grew up kind of alongside,
and like I saw the like actual diagnosed autism with
an IEP, like didn't speak when he was a baby,

(01:26:29):
like all of that stuff, and like I watched the
how hard he worked for how long he worked, and
how he succeeded and graduated from high school with top marks,
and you know, to this day now it is just
you know, just killing it in his career and everything,
and how hard he worked from being a non verbal
child to just being this amazing, wonderful human being that

(01:26:53):
he is today. This is awesome, successful adult who rows
above uh, you know, And then I see these these
people today.

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
He's I'm just I'm just sell autistic, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Like, no, you're not, You're you you you know, maybe
you like just have a low attention span. Go to
a doctor. If a doctor says that you're autistic, then
you're autistic.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Yeah. First off, I want to I want to highlight this.

Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
As a single father raised an autistic child, I wish
I had a Nate Ball Uh I did. Okay, I
am also a single father currently raising an autistic child,
and I totally agree with you, Marv, especially because we
I did everything I could to make sure that Max
didn't have to like he I had him in speech

(01:27:40):
therapy when he speech, in occupation therapy when he was three.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
We started him in school through through early intervention when
he was four.

Speaker 6 (01:27:48):
Do you know how proud I was when he made
it to actual grades and test it out of like
special school district, or when when I when I got
him in when we were when we were able to
not have to make I ep for him because he
was developed, and we did what we needed to do
beforehand and got him to the bore he needed to be.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
That's what you know.

Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
I was so proud of him and then I see
kids at the school who aren't as bad as him,
who get who have i EPs and who have to
go to the special school district and whose parents always
use it as an excuse and blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
And it's it's becoming what ADD was when we were kids.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
You remember when when when we were kids and everyone
was like, oh, I just have ADD I'm so add
And it was just because like they liked video games
or something, so that made him add.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
You know, and they forget something. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
And what it does, though, is it makes people roll
their eyes of people who are actually diagnosed with the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
And and I say, this is someone who was actually
diagnosed with ADHD, Like no, like you don't trust me.
A lot of you don't have it. But the but
my family member that was, you know, a diagnosed with autism.
Same thing I saw the day that he got you know,
completely mainstream. He always had an IP. And then I
watched him go through college and then you know, still

(01:29:04):
as in college had issues with testing, so like actually
like you know, passing his finals and getting like you know,
the degrees that he needed for the career that he
has now was so difficult for him, and he worked
so incredibly hard. That's why I get so angry when
I see people trying to like co opt the like autism,
like it's a badge of honor, Like no, it's it's like,

(01:29:27):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
It's also why I would never use it as an insult,
And anyone who thinks that I would use it as
an insult is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
I use it out of out of a concern or
sometimes as a compliment, because there are things that autistic
people do with their brains that we are not able
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
They're able to really understand certain things better than we are.

Speaker 6 (01:29:49):
And so you know, when you look at somebody like
like a you know, I'll use the easy example, which
is like Bill Gates and he used him and it's like, well,
you know what, you know, he's he was able to
take that turn it into something, you know, and it's
it's uh, it's it is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
But I don't. I never.

Speaker 6 (01:30:06):
I wasn't using it about Tony as a I was
using it as a This is how I explained this
situation because there are definitely things that he does that
make it look.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
And and we have and I'm sure and here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
We have heard from enough people, and Nash I'm sure
has heard from enough people about Tony's extracurricular activities. Yeah,
you know that that that the drugs flow like wine
in the you know, in the ae W after parties.
And he's all, oh, you only need to just you
only need to look at him. His physical appearance from
the time AW started to now like this is this

(01:30:38):
is what you know, a junkie with money looks like
well and.

Speaker 7 (01:30:42):
And the crazy thing is like I agree with everything
he said this like in terms of like when I
say that he might be autistic, it's not an insult.
In fact, like I think that could even explain some
of the reported drug issues. It's like sometimes people who
use things like cocaine or even like speed, they are

(01:31:03):
self medicating. Like it's entirely possible Tony does a line
of coke and it's the same thing as if he
was taking like adderall or byban, like very similar in
terms of like in m my balance amount.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
All right, Well, enough about doctor Kevin Nash, MD and
his medical diagnoses for people. Let's move on to some
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Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
You know what he can make that you might you
might have a point there. Andre Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Virginia Sharp for five's his actual tuney thoughts, Oh crap,
I do own a Scorpio Sky action figure.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
Shit, he forgot that he existed until he was asking.

Speaker 6 (01:32:17):
You know, you know, a big symptom of autism is
face blindness. So maybe he does think Scorpius.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Andre Adams of one ninety nine is animaniacs, buttons and
Mindy at an aaw event, Well, Mindy would be easy
to find, should be the only kid there Wolf's child
for four ninety nine And so here's the deal. I'll
go to aw I'll even pay for my ticket, but
they are paying for my beer because I am getting drunk. Yeah,

(01:32:45):
and that beer. That beer is expensive. You want to
get drunk at an AW show in one of those arenas,
you're paying more than one hundred bucks, So I think
you got the right deal there, Wolf Child, Uh, Grega
or Greig don't pronounce the for two dollars Cornett reviewing
AW talent can play a role. So yeah, well, I
think what we're talking about here. Jim Cornett is currently
doing a series on his show where he's going through

(01:33:07):
the AW roster and like saying who is worthwhile and
who is not. He's basically like evaluating the talent roster, right, Yeah,
Blason Bolster tendauns is be careful, Marv when doing the
Mercedes Monet Boye or Simps might think it's her like
the episode of South Park with Ben Affleck. Fuck the
real j low Is Cartman's right hand. Oh that wouldn't
be good.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Oh shout out, he'll get it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
I can then charge them one hundred bucks to text me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Though John Williams of four ninety nine says also difference
Jim attempt to counter WW flat out did more harm
to themselves TK got all his money to fall back on.
Jim was using his money, Yes he was. I'm a
big Jim and Jim Junior, not David though Reggia Sharp
for ten says Ah paid no attention to my previous reasoning.

(01:33:52):
Only my current reasoning exaccurate. Now we've always been at
war with East Asia. John Williams for four ninety nine
is he compared his elf himself to Watts, who was
famously fired when Turner found out he said the business
should be allowed to not sell to people because of race.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
I don't think that's accurate. I've never heard that story before.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Because he peed from the balcony and Hank Aaron, No,
it wasn't you actually know what He's right?

Speaker 6 (01:34:23):
Wims right, Hank Aaron found out that he said that
Hank Karen was on the board.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
Oh got it. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I had never heard that before. Now, I don't know
if Tony compared himself to Watch JR. Compared him to Watts. Yeah,
his great mentor. And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
say anything bad about JR. Because he had a rough day.
But yeah, that's a ridiculous comparison to make. But MJG
for nine ninety nine says he went on a t
KO Partners network and called w WE the Harvey Weinstein

(01:34:53):
of wrestling. He's actively tried to mess with their business,
pay scale, reputation. The kid is lucky. TKO is merely
counter booking him. Yeah, you're not wrong. He has done
so much against them, and Trip likes to fight. Yeah,
Trip likes to fight.

Speaker 5 (01:35:09):
And in binding out what it's like when they actually
give you the war that you wanted.

Speaker 6 (01:35:14):
And I bet the guys that bought UFC and WWE
enjoy a good fight too. So it's probably not very
smart to poke that bear. And by the way, Tony
poked that bear. You talk about counterprogramming, Tony was the
one who you know, had a show on Friday and
booked see him punk there, And you know this is

(01:35:36):
Tony brought the war first.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
So I don't know what else he I don't know
what he expected.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Well, they could have, like I said, I've always said this,
they could have just come out to the gate and
been like, hey, look, ww is great. They're great, they're
doing their thing. We're gonna do something very different. You know,
We're gonna be an alternative product. We're gonna be on
a different night. You can enjoy our product and WWE's
product and just to you know, have we just want
to contribute to wrestling. And he came out there and
was leay in.

Speaker 5 (01:36:00):
Jericho, was like, we're gonna beat right your ratings, and
you know, like they they courted this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
You reap whatt just so you ft and a round
and you're finding out currently and they're cannot even the
greatest like thing about this is they're not even counterprogramming him.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
With Raw or SmackDown events.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
They're counterprogramming him with the developmental brand because Trip thinks
that's all it's gonna take.

Speaker 6 (01:36:26):
Yeah, I mean, to be fair, they are doing Saturday
Night's made event, but I have a strong feeling that
Saturday Night's main events are probably planned out way in
advance and probably have more to do with NBC schedule.

Speaker 5 (01:36:37):
Saturday Nights Made Saturday Nights. Yeah, and Saturday Night's main
event has been a thing in w WE since the eighties, right, you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
Know, Yes, so something on Saturday you're gonna have to
deal with it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Well, yeah, I mean, yes, they brought it back, you know,
in modern times, but I think that was a deal
that was in the works for a bit like what
Fox and five Miles Canadians is, Remember when actual victims
didn't want to be seen as victims and refused to
be victims, so they write above expectations that succeeded. I
miss that. Hey me too, Yeah, oh's treat me well,

(01:37:09):
I'm a victim, didn't Tony MJG for one ninety nine says,
didn't TK confirm that he does absinth on the press scrum,
I was seeing a lot of people talking about absinthe and.

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
Sinking does absence? Absinthe is not a drug, right this? Like,
isn't that an alcohol?

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
I mean, it's an alcohol that some people have drug
like effects when they drink. Is it really?

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
Do they?

Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
Really? Was always a very powerful alcohol.

Speaker 6 (01:37:33):
No, people have talked about like hallucinizations and stuff like
that while taking absence. I've never personally so.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
According to the AI on Google, absence is not generally
considered a drug. While it is a spirit with a
high alcohol content and contains the herb wormwood, it's not
a drug in the traditional sense of the word. The
misconception is that absinthe is a drug stems from its
history and perceived hallucinogenic effects attributed to the herb wormwood
and its compound fujiome.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Yeah, Beard said he never hallucinated from it, but I'm
pretty sure Beard has done everything else on. His tolerance
is probably very very strong.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
Yeah no, and you need an elephant tranquilizer to take
that man down here.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
I guarantee he is doing something as we speak right now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Okay, So, oh, WrestleMania. We got some WrestleMania news to
talk about, some big WrestleMania news. Actually, well, WrestleMania has moved. Yeah,
WrestleMania forty two next year is no longer set to
take place in New Orleans. According to a statement from
the Greater New Orleans Sports Foundation. It indicates that the

(01:38:45):
event is being rescheduled to an unspecified year in the future.
Uh So that led to.

Speaker 5 (01:38:54):
A report by again I don't know where it is, ah,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
The plan is now, according to a certain someone from
the Wrestling Observer newsletter, the plan is now to run
WrestleMania on a regular basis in Las Vegas, not necessarily
every year, but frequently. The idea is that the city
wants to have a major destination sports event every year.
By definition, they're looking at the Super Bowl, the final
four of the college football National Championship Final at WrestleMania.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
I don't buy that for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
It's a good I mean, it's a it's a decent guess.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
I can see them going back like every five years.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
Maybe.

Speaker 10 (01:39:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
No, part part of the part of the joy of
WrestleMania is moving it around. And you know, the whole
thing with WrestleMania is like this WrestleMania especially didn't not
sell out.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
It was close enough, I mean it was it was
pretty close. Yeah, it was right there. Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:39:51):
UFC TKO have a strong relationship with Las Vegas. That's
their home, that's where they are from. So the idea
that they want to go home every five years or so,
they used to work New York every you know what
I mean. It's like that's I think that's gonna kind
of become WWE's new place is Vegas. And they're able

(01:40:12):
to charge way more, way higher ticket prices by going
to Vegas than they would be anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
They're attracting people from all around the world.

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
Where that was a remember that was a concern with
the new International Tours is that they were stopped, they
weren't going to draw as many to WrestleMania. But if
you put WrestleMania into Vegas, you're going to draw those
people because they're gonna go, oh, you know what, if
I can go to Vegas, then sure I'll make I'll
make a week out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
It's it's not ridiculous that they're going to do it,
but the fact that Dave, like it's one of his
things again where he just makes a guess and it's
gonna end up problem possibly being correct, and then he
can say he's correct, and then if he's not, guess what,
We're not gonna find out for like five years because
what the real story here is that they're coming back

(01:41:00):
repeatedly after.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
You know, well the rumor isn't there isn't the rumor
that they're gonna do WrestleMania at Vegas again next like
next year, like back to back years, right, which I
would hate that. I would seriously hate that. I know,
I think Cornett, I'm just judging by Travis's art. I
haven't actually watched the video yet. It looks like he
thinks that they might It might be because they want

(01:41:21):
to do it in Saudi, but I don't think that's
the case.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Maybe Vegas. Maybe they'll do Vegas a second year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
In a row.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
I really hope not.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
I don't want to see two years in a row
in the same location.

Speaker 8 (01:41:34):
So I I I'm one of these people who I
agree with you.

Speaker 7 (01:41:38):
I feel like having it in Vegas two years in
a row is just it just it's ass But I
can see it being a possibility of happening this year,
if only if like, let's hypothetically right, let's just say
the City of New Orleans came to w W and
they were like, yo, listen, we're not going to be
ready this year. When we do it, like either next

(01:41:58):
year or the year after or something, and we still
want WrestleMania.

Speaker 8 (01:42:02):
We're just not ready this year.

Speaker 7 (01:42:03):
Well, they have that relationship with Vegas already, Like, why
go try and find in Why why go trying to
find a new suitor if you can just fall back
to existing relationships and get this done and over with
so you don't have to stress funding a new site, Yeah, go.

Speaker 6 (01:42:19):
Ahead, Sorry, sorry, okay, Yeah, let's throw another possibility out there.
Right before WrestleMania, TKO started experimenting with the idea of
putting UFC on the same weekends as ww pay per views,
and they found out that it worked and it drew
very well. What about UFC going to New Orleans and saying, hey,

(01:42:39):
you know what, we'd really like to run a UFC
show in conjunction with WrestleMania excuse me, WrestleMania next year
because we want to see how that will work. And
they can't accommodate it. Well, you know who can accommodate
it their hometown, Las Vegas. I guarantee you. I can't imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
I can't. On WrestleMania weekend, there's one he is a
two night event and the Hall of Famous Friday night.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
When are they going to do a UFC show.

Speaker 6 (01:43:04):
Uh, after WrestleMania that afternoon or after they do late
shows too. I could totally see him going on and
maybe maybe moving to WrestleMania up two hours and let
UFC run. I think that's overkill, Well, I you think
it would be. You know how much they charged for
the cheap seats in UFC MARV.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
I could I could see it being, you know, them
doing that on like for like money in the bank,
because it's one, it's a one night event. You do
UFC on satd on, you do WW on Saturday Money
and UFC on Sunday. I can't see them doing that
for WrestleMania. WWE is the focal point of WrestleMania. I
just I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
I just I would I would put money down on
it if you would want to bet. But I do
you know, I asked, do you know how much they
charge for cheap seats at UFC?

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
How much?

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
Eight dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Lord?

Speaker 6 (01:43:55):
So like, yeah, the upper decks were selling for like
seven eight hundred dollars on the last show. So if
they think that they can fold that into something else
and make have a weekend where they have a UFC
show where they're making that two WWE shows not to
mention Raw, not to mention SmackDown, not to mention, uh,
the nxt T show that they do. Can you imagine

(01:44:17):
the TKO weekend though, Throw a bull riding show in
their Sunday afternoon and uh, you know, we sell real
American beer in the process.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
They'll they will come out of that. Their stock price.

Speaker 6 (01:44:30):
Will go so high after that weekend, Dude, I'm telling
you they're going to want to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
I'm telling you they're going to want to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
I'm asking I'm sending a text to Aunt right now
to ask him his opinion on that, because you know,
he worked for UFC, so.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
True true, and he's here and he yelled at you
already once, so.

Speaker 8 (01:44:50):
I don't see him trying it at least once. But
Marv's Ryan like that is that is a lot of
DKO on one weekend like that, that is so much.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
Yeah, it's it's showing, it's it's making me wonder what
how t KO views WWE, because the more it goes on,
the more it kind of seems like t KO is like,
this is this is the thing, Like this is our
kid product, this is our family product. We have this
over here. This is how we're gonna groom people into

(01:45:22):
like when they're kids. They like, well, it's the right word.
It's not my fault they co opted it. But okay,
they ease ease kids from wrestling into us because they
do treat WW a lot of times like the uh
like the kid product, the kid.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Thing, that's the kid thing we have and people love it.
They love that. You won't believe it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:47):
Now, let's watch the UFC like that seems a lot
of their mentality, you know, so I wonder if it
might be a thing where there you instead of being
where they look at it as they're going to piggyback
all WrestleMania. It makes me wonder if they're thinking that
they can actually strengthen wrestle Mania by putting a UFC
show there, getting the big spinders to come, you know,

(01:46:09):
selling a package that has both nights and Teak and UFC.
Imagine how much they could charge for that ticket, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:46:19):
You know, I just saw an interesting point, but not
really a point, but something just came to mind where
we fitting Power Slap into this.

Speaker 8 (01:46:27):
Boys.

Speaker 5 (01:46:28):
Now you know what, Look if you I will be
all for it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
If you put Power Slap directly up against Joey Janella's
spring Break and.

Speaker 8 (01:46:40):
That would that would definitely that would definitely be better.

Speaker 7 (01:46:43):
Yeah, I refuse to watch Power Slap, but I'd probably
still watch that over Joey Janella.

Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
I might put Power Slap on in like the other
room and just not watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
It's no tire wrestling. I will say that listening, I
forgot that that existed until you just never heard of
that oh, we showed a clip a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
Yeah, you know, you don't want to know about it.
It's dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Would you watch it over a w yes, okay, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
It was that if it was tire wrestling and that
anarchy in the arena match, Yes, I'm going with tire wrestling.

Speaker 7 (01:47:16):
I'm going to go watch some weird Russian mma. Watch
one guy take on five small people.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Oh yeah, that big broad they always have that fights
all the little guys.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
That big broad. Yeah, they had that big broad.

Speaker 8 (01:47:32):
They had Eddie Hall fighting like people a man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Drew Disclay, I'm over you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
And now.

Speaker 8 (01:47:41):
There's this what is going on?

Speaker 6 (01:47:43):
I always see clips on X of like this five
hundred pound woman in an octagon and they and they
always have like these little one hundred and fifty pound girls,
like four of them and they go after and she
like can barely breathe, but the women can't even bring
her off her feet, so they all lose.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
It's it's it's awful.

Speaker 8 (01:48:00):
The sense of family.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Guy, they got that big brought over there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
I'm in now.

Speaker 6 (01:48:06):
Give me duck, what what one impression that you were
you doing a couple of weeks ago they just turned
into and Display. I don't remember, but it was always
big Russo Russo we were doing Yeah, started to dice, Yeah,
Andrew Disclay.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
Actually, Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:48:29):
The show, Oh my goodness, this is almost as bad
as the time I watched that Big Lady fight five
Small Ladies on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
Okay, Chris. I was like, wow, Chris impression.

Speaker 8 (01:48:45):
Guys, Now I I'm definitely doing Chris. I can't do Peter.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
I can do Joe too.

Speaker 8 (01:48:51):
All right, kids, we're gonna watch some wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
This guy or Tony Kahan told me I was cleared
to compete.

Speaker 8 (01:49:01):
Yeah, the w W E wouldn't wouldn't clear me.

Speaker 7 (01:49:04):
But Tony Kahan took this, uh he said this signature
written in crown, no legs, no problem, Joe.

Speaker 6 (01:49:12):
My favorite thing about about your oppressions, Marb is that
you do so many of them that they bleed in
Like that came in that that turned into Chris Barley,
you know, in a van down by the river a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
But it's not an insult, it's not an.

Speaker 10 (01:49:28):
A motivational It happened.

Speaker 6 (01:49:31):
If you if you listen to a lot of impressionists,
they do that a lot because it just they're so close,
but people don't realize how close they are.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
I you know, I used I used to remember.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
The one Matt Foley that he did completely in Spanish,
and I don't speak a word of Spanish, but I
still remember every word of that one. And I thought
it was so funny.

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
Your EVO in Vain, sir Goodalas.

Speaker 8 (01:49:52):
Feel Oh my god, I missed. I missed Chris Barley.

Speaker 5 (01:49:58):
I know, ma a man.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
I would love to go to Earth too, where like
he lived long enough to make Shrek heard.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
I know I had never heard it was it was
it much disey. I'm assuming he wasn't doing a Scottish accent.

Speaker 8 (01:50:10):
It's not very good he was.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
This is late stage Chris Farley. This is wagons Farley.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
You know it's okay. Yeah, so this is circling the
drain Chris Farley.

Speaker 7 (01:50:20):
Yeah, yes, it's it's not very much effort. It's literally
just the Chris Farley doing Chris Barley as a as an.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Eddie Murphy's working man. Eddie Murphy's trying to get it over,
but Farley is just well, I.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Just I just got to watch Zach Galifanakis be Zach
Galifanakis as Jumba in Leelo and Stitch, so or or
Seth Rogan as Seth Rogan as Donkey Kong and Mario.

Speaker 6 (01:50:44):
Max's mom loves le Loan Stitch, and Max is just
dreading the fact that she makes him is gonna make him.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
Go see that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
So, so here's the thing I actually really liked the movie.
Zach Galifanakis was the only thing that I.

Speaker 14 (01:50:57):
Didn't like, Okay, because like he plays Jumba, and you
remember like Jumba in the original movie is like he
is only made to destroy and like you know, he's
so carthoonishly evil, and Zacha is like, Hi, I'm Zach Alfanakaz,
I'm playing an alien in this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
So are you saying it goes more?

Speaker 6 (01:51:15):
It leans more towards like Dumbo and Aladdin, where like
there's a reason for it, and less towards It's lyon
Kings where there's absolutely no reason.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
That's what it's it is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
It is, in my opinion, far and away the best
live action remake they've made. I mean, I know that's
not a high bar to clear. So like I was
gonna say, so, like when you were set in the bar,
right like, was it like knee level or was it
like shin level. It was like ankle level. I mean,
like jungle Book. I think jungle Book was the best
one for this.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
I like Aladdin. I liked a Laddin. I hate that. No, No,
I made it. I made it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
Five minutes into that Aladdin one jump start he was.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
He was like slowly strolling down the street going one
jump ahead, and I'm like, nope, I'm done.

Speaker 8 (01:51:57):
I'm out here, bye bye.

Speaker 6 (01:51:58):
I liked the Aladdin because they did change it into
like a Bollywood musical, which I thought was at least interesting, right,
And I like Dumbo.

Speaker 5 (01:52:06):
I know that would make no sense because Bollywood is
in India and I.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
Know, but it was. It was just something.

Speaker 6 (01:52:12):
It was they did something with it other than make
the exact same movie except with more CG this time.
Like I I liked, like I said, I like Dumbo.
I know it wasn't a great movie, but the idea
of like making Umbo I loved.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
You know, I love Dumbo because it Dumbo was the
movie that got us a break from Tim Burton.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Yeah, that's true why I hate Tim Burton. Dumbo was
basically big Fish too. I can't I can honestly, like.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
There's we're getting We're getting in the weeds right now.
We're pulling too far away from wrestling.

Speaker 8 (01:52:43):
Sorry, time for a little segment we like to call.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
That's Dave for you. So first, that's Dave for you
actually starts off with a little bit of a story here. So, uh,
Pro Wrestling World had this, it says Hangman, Adam Paige,
and Will Osprey found out the results of the main
event of aw Double or Nothing earlier in the weekend.
Page pushed for Osbrey to win, while Osbrey pushed for Page,
with Tony Kahn said to be non committal.

Speaker 5 (01:53:18):
Throughout the process, you know, like a good booker is.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
When asked by talent, John Moxley pushed for Page to win, though,
but it's unclear if the guy with iron clad creative
control making his making his wishes known affected the result.
Hangman's win was met with shock backstage. Is most expected
Osbrey to win?

Speaker 6 (01:53:35):
Now you said that day that's not Dave by the way,
it's bite bles, But it's okay, you have a Dave.

Speaker 5 (01:53:40):
I thought that the Dave Will Page thing was about no.

Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
No, that was just a Dave segment. I put Dave
in front of all the Dave segment once. But it's fine,
it's in the spirit, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
Why I put it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Yeah, well, I realized also that we forgot to talk
about this, so we'll talk about this in the.

Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
But oh segue that of the Dave.

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
So I have it a good authority. This is complete
bs not true. This is not a story of I
think he should win. No, I think he should win
and job Moxley.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Comes in and goes.

Speaker 6 (01:54:09):
And they're like, I don't know who's gonna win. Hangman
Page was set to win this match the entire time. Okay,
there was never there was. So I'm actually giving more
credit to Tony Kahn than this article is because I'm
saying that he actually had a plan.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
But I have it on pretty good authority that.

Speaker 6 (01:54:29):
This is part of softening the blow for the fact
that the elite are going to all be champions by
the end of this year, and that it is making
them not seem so much like the Click, where the
Click would use politics and that kind of So this
is what what this is doing is this is being like,
look how nice hang managed. He wanted us Spray to win,

(01:54:54):
But that is not the way this actually happened.

Speaker 5 (01:54:59):
Well, let's see what thought about Will and uh and Paige.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
It opened up with a hangman and Will Ospray face
to face, and these two guys were this was fantastic, awesome.

Speaker 15 (01:55:09):
This is what seene In Cody Rhodes should have been
and never oh stop it, stop it, you geriatric scenile fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Pretend to have an ounce of journalistic integrity in you.

Speaker 8 (01:55:25):
Hold on, this is what Sena and Cody should have been.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
I haven't seen the match.

Speaker 10 (01:55:35):
I haven't seen the.

Speaker 6 (01:55:36):
Match, but I know you're well, he's not talking about
the match. Oh what we're talking about the build to
the match. He's talking about the pro between page and
as where.

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
Osbury said bruv for forty five minutes.

Speaker 8 (01:55:51):
What I'm done?

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Quit I the match.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
We're just saying the.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
Match was better would at least make sense, It would
at least make sense. But saying that Will Osprey got
a better promo than Cody Rhodes or.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
And John Cena, I just look, lots of people haven't
accused John Cena of not being able to wrestle.

Speaker 5 (01:56:18):
They're wrong, but they say it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
No one has ever accused John Cena of not being
able to talk so well.

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
Osby literally can't talk.

Speaker 6 (01:56:30):
Alfred Alfred made a lot of money making it, pointing
out the fact that well Osprey can't talk.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Oh my goodness, bro here we go.

Speaker 15 (01:56:45):
Hit that level with Cody Roach Andsna.

Speaker 10 (01:56:47):
They're so polished and practiced and very professional.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
There's not a knock on them. It was a shoota
than their promos were just them shoting at each other.
Well he shoot, but still.

Speaker 6 (01:57:03):
He's trying to find a way to make it sound
and make make the fact that they sounded better a
reason that it's worse because there's no other way you
can do it unless you say, well, it was so,
it was so polished, it was so yeah, because it
was good.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
That's why.

Speaker 7 (01:57:20):
God forbid professional sound professional at their job.

Speaker 15 (01:57:27):
But they're not real at all. You know, even when
they throw real barbs out, they were never real. I
never got the feeling real with will Osprey. Every word
he said, the way he said it, with the conviction
he said it, I got the feeling that it was real.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
I mean, Hangman had to do his He talks about
will Osprey with the passion in his voice that I
use to like talk about my wife like this love
behind every word act.

Speaker 15 (01:57:54):
Of Depression and everything like that, and it was was
was great. It was one of Hangman's, maybe Hangman's best
promo ever. But these guys were I mean it was
It was absolutely spectacular.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
The other thing that's different from the John Cena deal is,
you know, he's a heel and so he's just got
the because of the fans thing. We at least had
two baby faces here, so there was nothing except putting
over the fans when they talked about him.

Speaker 15 (01:58:17):
And the other thing is this they made clear that
this is the main event of the show. You know,
when this promo was over, it's like, I'll tell you what.
If it wasn't, I would have said, man, you got
to make this the main event of the show. One
of the arguments of why they need to make will
Ospray champion is that at least, you know, you don't
have to have people follow him, and the best guy
should be champion, or at least the best match and

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the best guy should be in the main event.

Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
Okay, did you notice what the thing that like?

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
When we talk about a match that we really like,
our problem that we really like, we usually say words
like I thought this was great or in my opinion,
this was great. He presents his opinions as facts and
it drives me insane. Yes, this was objectively better. This

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was objectively better than Cody Rhodes and Sina.

Speaker 6 (01:59:09):
And Alvarez came in there in the middle and just
dropped a bomb on everything Dave was saying by saying
they weren't putting over the match, They just were putting
over the fans to get people to cheer, and it's
just like, move on, let's not you know, whoever do.

Speaker 5 (01:59:23):
You think that was Alvarez trying to push back again?

Speaker 6 (01:59:26):
It sounded like it. Dude, how else would you take that?
Like if he's sitting there talking about how this pushed
the match. He did such a great job building in
the main event. It was Hangman's best promo ever. And
then Alvarez goes, well, yeah, they just had to put
over the fans the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
You know, like, how does that sound to you like
a compliment or what does that sound like? What do
you do?

Speaker 6 (01:59:49):
Okay, TeV is not here right, but I'm sure that
if I asked keV, what do you do it? What's
the easiest way to get the fans on your side?
You would say, compliment the fans or compliment their tone
or you know, that's how you get the fans on
your shop. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what That's all that was,
And Albera said it so.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
Oh my gosh. So, by the way, I asked Anne
Evans about the Vegas thing this and he doesn't think
they want to do a UFC EVM on Mani Week
and he says it's just the sheer amount of massive
tax breaks and help that Vegas.

Speaker 3 (02:00:25):
Yeah, yeah, probably see, I mean, of course he's probably right.
Who am I.

Speaker 5 (02:00:31):
Andrew Disclay, that's who you are?

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Hey, da.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
Grove to tickets sold ratio one one million to one.
I like Osprey right, but like.

Speaker 5 (02:00:48):
No, I liked Osprey until he started speaking.

Speaker 7 (02:00:54):
Well, one of the things one of the things I
had said when he got signed to the to a
W is like that's it's really cool they got him.

Speaker 2 (02:01:03):
But he's just like.

Speaker 8 (02:01:06):
The things that make him special.

Speaker 7 (02:01:07):
Like, yes, he does better than everyone else in that roster,
but like he doesn't stand out in a pack of
people who do a lot of the same stuff, Like like, yes,
he puts on some of the best matches, but at
the same time, he just doesn't do anything for me.
It's like a I'm not gonna watch a show because
bulls howsprays on it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:25):
Right, we've talked about it before, like he had if
you go back and watch his match with Josh Alexander,
or you go back and watch the matches that he
had with going there, the man can tell a story.
And if he had gone like WW would have been
a challenge. Can I grow? Can I become a better performer?
Can I actually be the biggest star in the world.

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Can I do those things? Because he already we already
know he's got the athletic ability to do so, we
already know he can work in a ring, and we've
seen him tell light stories against guys like previously mentioned
Josh Alexander's, so you know that he has the ability,
But can he get more out of it? And instead
he just goes, ah, you know what, bro, I'm gonna
take a lot of money and not do much. That's
what he decided to do because I don't care how

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hard he's working in that ring. He's not pushing himself
by being an aew at all.

Speaker 8 (02:02:12):
I agree entirely.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Now, do you think there is anyone in wrestling currently
that people are like, I watch this wrestling promotion solely
because of this one person.

Speaker 3 (02:02:25):
Joe Hendry.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
With TNA.

Speaker 5 (02:02:28):
Yeah, I could see Joe Hendry.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
Yep, that's right, That is the right answer because like, well,
like nineteen ninety eight, the reason I asked, like I
switched from watching WCW to watching WWF solely for Stone
called Steve Boston. Like but and I don't think that
there's really anybody on the big leagues like that right now,
where it's like it's a one man show, which I
think is probably better for business as a whole because

(02:02:50):
then if that guy you know breaks his neck, you
you know, your business doesn't collapse like it did with
when Steve Austin went down.

Speaker 5 (02:02:57):
But time, what were you about to say?

Speaker 7 (02:03:01):
I would say, Joe Henry's good answer, funnily enough for me,
Mike Santana might becoming a reason yeah you know, yeah,
and then uh, like before he became like a part
timer steam Punk and AW is like the reason I started, Like,
actually I wasn't not reason I was watching AW before that,

(02:03:22):
but like he became a reason I was watching Coollition
on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (02:03:25):
I bet there's a lot of people that are watching
AW just for Kenny.

Speaker 8 (02:03:28):
Yeah, Kenny is Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:03:29):
I bet there's a lot of people that are watching
it just for Kenny. And because there was a noticeable
drop in their ratings when he went away, noticeable.

Speaker 8 (02:03:37):
True, Kenny is the only reason I Kenny is the
only reason I tuned in. Sorry, those rates.

Speaker 5 (02:03:42):
None of those people came back though when he came back.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
True. True.

Speaker 6 (02:03:46):
And in terms of w W no, I mean there.
I think there's people that if they were gone, they
might lose some people. But it's not because so much
that it's like they were only watching for them. It's
just that now there's not enough to keep them watching.
Like if jay Uzo left, I gets some kids leaving,
if Cody when Tody's gone, I think there might be
some kids who want it as interested in the show,
But none of them are like, you know, abandoning the product.

(02:04:08):
It's more of just like I'll come back when they're back.

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
You know that off topic, But did you guys notice,
like because you just talked about like Cody coming back
and leaving, Like when Cody came back at the end
of Saturday Night's main event, they were clearly so strapped
for time that like Cody had no time to cut
the promoter set up money in the bank.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
Yeah, but feeling to you two of us money in
the bank.

Speaker 6 (02:04:27):
But doesn't that feel like every Saturday Night's Main event
that you watched when you were a kid, Like every
Saturday Night. That's just like I saw so many people
complaining about Saturday Nights main Event. It's like, dude, that's
exactly what Saturday's Main Event has always been. It is
a let's get over a whole bunch of storylines as
fast as possible, like we are all.

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
I didn't watch Saturday N's Main Event when it aired initially,
but I did go back and watch a lot of them.

Speaker 6 (02:04:49):
It feels like a WWE speed run when you're watching
Saturday Nights main event. That's what it's always been. It's
a commercial. You know, Yes, you're cooking something. Okay, Now
moving on with Dave. Yeah, so Dave was talking about
the collision ratings.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
Ah, the collision ratings pattern for last night is the
craziest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 5 (02:05:09):
Thirty minutes, shockingly high.

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
It was not due to lead. In its fifteen to
eight thirty was seventy percent above BBT in eighteen to
forty nine that NBA game starts and it's off a
cliff Worse, lots of people didn't get to watch it
on DVR due to being on a different station than usual.
Eighteen to thirty four went for best numbers for a
non sports leading show to well below usual. That the
spin is real here, guys.

Speaker 6 (02:05:31):
Okay, by the way, okay, Yes, aw Dynamite in ratings
usually gets more than Big Bang Theory.

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
No one is saying.

Speaker 6 (02:05:42):
No one is saying that Big Bang Theory is doing
better than AW. What we're saying is that the first
quarter is always bumped up because of all the people
who left their TV on after Big Bang Theory, and
then there are also people who are just coming over
to watch AW. Yes, but the reason the number is
always up higher the beginning is because the people who
watch Big Bang Theory leave their TV on for an

(02:06:04):
extra five minutes. The narrative that we're saying that Big
Bang Theory is more successful is not true. We have
said several times that Big Bang Theory would be smarter
to put in that time slot, but that's because it's cheaper.
I just want to get that clear because it drives
me crazy when people act like we're claiming the Big
Bang theory.

Speaker 3 (02:06:20):
Reruns do literally do better than aew M.

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
It probably work effective, but they don't do exactly. So
then days is not sure if it's great news or
shows that most AW fans wanted to watch a NBA
Playoffs more than AW Live Daily Update will be upsuit
with details the inclusion ratings pattern for last night.

Speaker 5 (02:06:38):
It's the craziest thing I've ever seen at the time.

Speaker 3 (02:06:42):
Look, it's twenty three, twenty four, twenty like, he's just it's.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
Rapids, just this Yeah, this was just my goodness, Holy heck,
he was just going nuts. Uh So, somebody says David
advertently uncovered in inconvenient truth. NBA fans default channel is
T and T. Sorry, but that makes zero sense. That
was the case, this pattern would be noticeable every time
Dynamite would have been through the roof for the first

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thirty minutes.

Speaker 5 (02:07:08):
Even by your standards, this was mine blowing.

Speaker 2 (02:07:11):
So apparently this is a guy that Dave has hangled
with before, milowing Ben Miller, my.

Speaker 7 (02:07:21):
Arch nemesis, Dave getting into a fight on the internet
never I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (02:07:26):
The collision numbers were like five hundred thousand.

Speaker 6 (02:07:30):
It wasn't like, yeah, I'm talking about in the first
thirty minutes, they weren't mind blowing.

Speaker 7 (02:07:35):
Now well, I mean for collision five hundred thousand, six
hundred thousand without like and without an NNBA leading is
kind of bye blowing way.

Speaker 2 (02:07:45):
But by the way, Ben Miller mke Dave Meltzer's arch nemesis.
But this is mind blowing even for you uh as
five hundred and sixty followers, and is a proud Angelino
Milwaukee and at heart realist poster in the game hashtag
fight on Trojans. And this is the guy that Dave

(02:08:05):
Meltzer knows enough about to know what his normal standards are.
Oh my goodness, thank you, Dave.

Speaker 5 (02:08:19):
So somebody says, do you think spoiler turny goes? Logically?

Speaker 2 (02:08:21):
Could spoilers help greatly for thirty minutes and that'd be
responsible for a big drop? What's the NBA game starts?
I know you could actually argue that, but the main
point is that a hell of a lot of AW
fans are NBA fans. That is now proven because I
say so, it's not proven. That's not how hypotheses work, Dave.

Speaker 8 (02:08:43):
Do you know what you know what Marv this. Dave
might be onto something here.

Speaker 7 (02:08:51):
I wonder I wonder if the NBA would be willing
to work with aw Oh wait no, they're working at WWE.

Speaker 3 (02:08:56):
That's right, you're right.

Speaker 7 (02:08:58):
Yeah, well, I guess WWE fans must not be basketball.

Speaker 5 (02:09:05):
Wait no, no, no, no, no, no, w WWE fans
aren't NBA fans at all, because when WWE ratings dropped
during the NBA Finals game doesn't make that excuse for them.

Speaker 6 (02:09:14):
Wait wait a second, who's that who's that guy that's
coming in? Uh, that's gonna be on the DLC. It's
a rapper or something.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
Oh wait, no, no, no, it's a it's an NBA player,
that's right.

Speaker 6 (02:09:23):
And they are building the NBA game around the fact
that they both appeared on W E W E televisions
about it. Yeah, okay, so, but but ae W fans
are so cool, right. They're big and they're strong, and

(02:09:43):
they're athletic and they love NBA.

Speaker 3 (02:09:48):
Just look at the crop. Sorry, I can't do this.

Speaker 2 (02:09:53):
Oh okay. Ant has information on who Ben Miller is.
He says Ben Miller used to write after a fashion
from Meltzer. I told David the Miller couldn't write for
a fing bus ticket. I was proved right now, Davi's
enemies with Miller. Okay, that makes more sense. Why he's
why he he knows so much about a guy with
five hundred followers.

Speaker 3 (02:10:11):
No, it doesn't, No, it doesn't. You know what I don't.
I mean it makes sense, yes, but the.

Speaker 5 (02:10:14):
Story is actually one of it. It's actually a foe
of his life.

Speaker 6 (02:10:18):
The story doesn't make sense because he said that Dave
fired him because he can't write.

Speaker 3 (02:10:22):
Does Dave think he can write.

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
Well, Dave, Dave is the worst. I mean, I'm sure
Dave thinks he can write, but my god, can't write, Dave.
I'm shocked he could think.

Speaker 6 (02:10:32):
If Dave fired somebody because they couldn't write, then that
guy must be a chimpanzee.

Speaker 5 (02:10:38):
How bad must that writing be? That must have been
like me, No, like match match bad.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
He just drove good.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
He just drew pictures on the wall.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
That was his writing.

Speaker 7 (02:10:49):
Yeah, I bet you he didn't fire him for the
bad writing. He probably said, will Osprey is pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:10:56):
Yeah, well, Ospray's hair looks weird, and ah.

Speaker 8 (02:11:02):
He said one too many brugs.

Speaker 5 (02:11:05):
So then you know, Dave obviously has got to do
the commercial message off since it's on TBS not TNT.
I had to manually set my DVR again for collision.
So if you do regular watching on DVR, at least
subsystems will be that way, which, you know, weird how
he never does this at any other wrestling show.

Speaker 8 (02:11:21):
Find you someone that looks at you the way Dave
looked at Tony.

Speaker 6 (02:11:27):
Seriously, I had I had SmackDown cut out. My DVR
copy of SmackDown cut out this week. Why didn't Dave
warn me ahead of time that that was gonna happen?
Should I warned you?

Speaker 2 (02:11:38):
Uh? Then he goes comparing Raw with Dynamite. Shouldn't be
done on a straight up basis. Dynamite has a huge advantage.

Speaker 13 (02:11:47):
I'm sorry, but I thought I knew where this was going.
But Dynamite has a huge advantage.

Speaker 5 (02:11:57):
Was not where I thought it was going, being on
both television and streaming, and being in about one hundred
million unique homes. If you add MAX homes TBS homes,
you get one hundred and twenty million, roughly twenty million
of that I have both Netflix in it, about seventy
seven point five million US homes. You'll see eighty nine
point three million listed because they group the US and

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GAETA together with seventy seven point five million of them.
We're in the US is of November.

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
But for total viewers, if Dynamite did three hundred and
one thousand viewers on Max, it would equal the total
US viewers for Raw. Is he claiming that Dynamite and
beating raw it has an advantage? And yes, he's also
claiming that it's three hundred.

Speaker 5 (02:12:39):
And one thousand viewers on Max?

Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
Oh on Max?

Speaker 5 (02:12:43):
I thought he meant on TBS.

Speaker 8 (02:12:44):
Okay, this is dont an awful lot like Steiner Matt.

Speaker 3 (02:12:48):
Yeah, Well, what they do I've discovered it not correct.

Speaker 6 (02:12:52):
What they do I've discovered is that they use the
math that Netflix uses and applies it to Max's numbers.

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:12:59):
The problem is is that Netflix is a is on
world Like I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (02:13:05):
Netflix has Raw on almost in the worldwide, while Max
only has Dynamite on in the United States.

Speaker 3 (02:13:12):
So you can't apply the same math for Raw that
you do for Dynamite. But apparently that's not something Dave
smart enough to know.

Speaker 8 (02:13:21):
All right, are you sure about that? I thought uh,
I thought Max is international.

Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
For aw No Max, Yeah, we thought so as well.
But we looked into it.

Speaker 5 (02:13:29):
Apparently it's not so. Look Max Maxi's Max has made
no real attempt to like fold aw in on A
on A on a large level.

Speaker 2 (02:13:39):
They you know, they don't have that. They were supposed
to have the pay per views available, they don't, uh,
you know, they don't promote it. I've never seen ae
w on a on the front page of Max. I
never see Max. They weren't at the upfronts. They didn't
even get mentioned at the upfronts. Like ae W is
just a non entity to WBD.

Speaker 7 (02:13:57):
It seems oh absolutely, I don't think they're doing more
than forty four thousand or forty five thousand views if
they're lucky on any given me, Like, I think that
would be being generous personally.

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
You know who was at the WBD upfronts though, John Cena.
John Cena was because of Peacemaker.

Speaker 7 (02:14:12):
But it's funny w WBD pushes WWE talent or they do,
aw they push the balls.

Speaker 8 (02:14:19):
They pushed John Cena. They they mentioned Roman Reigns in
their shows.

Speaker 3 (02:14:24):
Like remember when when.

Speaker 2 (02:14:27):
That's why I can't wait for the Logan Paul the
Paul Brothers to have their like Max show for them
to fight each other because you know AW is going
to have to promote it. It'll be you know, be
like please be like Kenny Omega versus the Young Bucks,
presented by the Paul brothers.

Speaker 3 (02:14:44):
It's already airing.

Speaker 8 (02:14:46):
Yeah, probably not getting a second I can tell you.

Speaker 6 (02:14:49):
I've heard rumors that it was actually pitched to them
to possibly even have Logan Paul do something promoting the show,
and somebody with an ae W turned it down.

Speaker 2 (02:15:04):
I would assume be Kenny the Young Bucks telling because
they're they all hate Logan, That's.

Speaker 3 (02:15:08):
What I would assume. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:15:09):
The thing that I heard was that Logan kind of
thought it'd be funny, like he was. It was like
pitch WBD and he's such a troll and he's just like, yeah,
I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:19):
And then uh, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
So they're doing the show right now where the Paul
brothers are training to fight each other.

Speaker 3 (02:15:25):
They do not fighting each other. I've told you that before.
They're not fighting.

Speaker 8 (02:15:27):
I thought that was just a given for the promo.

Speaker 5 (02:15:30):
Gosh, what the hell leaving is this show?

Speaker 6 (02:15:32):
Then I hear it's really good. I actually heard that
it's really good. I don't know, there's no there's.

Speaker 5 (02:15:37):
No universe like as good as he is in the ring,
there's no universe where I watch a Logan Paul reality
show where it's just him being him.

Speaker 6 (02:15:44):
I heard it's good in the way that you watch
shows like reality shows to see how dumb and vapid.

Speaker 3 (02:15:50):
People, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
The Jersey it's like the Jersey Shore.

Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
That kind of thing. Yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
how I heard it was good in that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:56):
My goodness. Well, now our title story for tonight, which
I know we're getting too very late in the show,
but the just the Chef's kiss Dave Meltzer moment of
all time I think was when he argued with Rock
Listen Rock the artificial intelligence platform. By the way, hold

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on An Evan says, efing zero chance AW is doing
three hundred k on Max Max announced season premiere of
the Industry did three hundred k. Publicly said so, but
they don't do press releases that they get that every Wednesday. Yeah, absolutely,
Aunt applying logic to this situation. Thank you, Ann.

Speaker 3 (02:16:34):
They did a press they did a press release when
the NBA got like fifty thousand.

Speaker 5 (02:16:41):
That's how you know it's doing practically nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:16:43):
They'd be shouting it from the rooftops, they'd be promoting it,
they'd be trying like hell to get those paperviews. But
they're not so Grock. Grock reply, I guess somebody must
have asked rock about to check Dave Meltzer's facts and
now Rock and AI that pull information from the Internet,
says the decline in ratings on Netflix and twenty twenty

(02:17:05):
five likely stems from multiple factors. Viewership dropped thirty five
percent in the US with the May twelfth episode at
two point seven million global views, and He's like debut
was five point nine million, not four point nine million. Also,
five point nine was a legit number. Two point seven million.
We don't be legiti Virtually nobody watched live. We know
that's not the case.

Speaker 3 (02:17:23):
Like, what are you arguing with He's well, here's the thing,
Dave is.

Speaker 6 (02:17:29):
It sounds like Dave doesn't understand the difference between global
numbers and US numbers, and he's arguing what's rock about?

Speaker 7 (02:17:40):
Dave drives me absolutely That's actually a lot of people
drive me absolutely nuts. Stuff like it's just yes, Netflix,
the publicly traded company that can get in trouble for
lying about these kinds of things because it could influence
their shareholders how they invest.

Speaker 8 (02:17:56):
Yet that company is the one that's lying. But everything
that you and.

Speaker 7 (02:18:01):
Bethel and Tony say is factual, even though you can't
prove right.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
So it's I mean, it's literally old man yells a
cloud like Grock is not going to respond to you,
like like yelling at him and trying to commain to him.

Speaker 5 (02:18:18):
I wish he would have yelled.

Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
I wish he would have broken out some of his
greatest hits, like I study this, or or tell him
Math's not your strong suit, isn't.

Speaker 5 (02:18:27):
And I'm like Dave, he's literally a calculator.

Speaker 7 (02:18:30):
I would love it if Rock got sassy and was
just like being snarky as hell at him.

Speaker 3 (02:18:35):
Brock will get sassy too, So that's why I like that.
I want.

Speaker 6 (02:18:42):
I like when when someone mentioned the AI meltzer picture,
I thought they meant it an AI meltzer, and I
think we need to develop that technology and just replace
Dave Meltzer. We we could we could have an entire
segment just where AI meltzer spits out things, and then
we could also compare a I meltzer to real Meltzer
and see who's smarter.

Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
Oh my gosh, I'm pretty sure that Ai.

Speaker 6 (02:19:04):
Meltzer would get things correct more often, which is really
funny because Dave Meltzer is supposed to be the historian.

Speaker 3 (02:19:10):
That's what everyone always says about him. He's a good historian.
He's not great at the other stuff, but he's a
good history right.

Speaker 2 (02:19:15):
Hold on, I need I need I need an actual,
like like screen cap of this Meltzer tweet because I
gotta show it to rock.

Speaker 3 (02:19:27):
Oh, I can do that right now?

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
Yeah? Can you can?

Speaker 5 (02:19:29):
You just can you like send it over to me.

Speaker 3 (02:19:31):
Yeah, give me, I'll throw it in the I'll throw
it in the Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:19:33):
Please do. I'm sure I saved it somewhere, but I
don't know where. You said it to me on X.

Speaker 3 (02:19:40):
Yeah, I'll send it over there.

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
Okay, it'll be there.

Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
It'll be there at a minute. Give me a minute here.
But you guys carry on.

Speaker 2 (02:19:46):
Yeah, no, it's it's just wild man, Like, I like,
come on, Like, why do you have to argue? Like
is he so threatened by the exist sense of an
AI correcting him? An ai that could pull from infinite resources?
I don't know, I don't know. It's not a good look.

Speaker 8 (02:20:10):
He's just super super weird dude.

Speaker 7 (02:20:13):
Like I I really wish I understood what goes through
someone's brain that they have to run like so much
br like like the rumor, like sorry, like he just
drives me crazy at like why are you sitting here
arguing then AI over stuff that begin with and like
why is this so important?

Speaker 2 (02:20:32):
All right?

Speaker 3 (02:20:33):
I said it over Marv. It's in there, so we'll
have that bit in a second. But I mean, and
Dave is not a guy like I.

Speaker 6 (02:20:41):
Okay, there are a lot of websites and clickbait accounts
and stuff that will run defense for AW, like virtually
ninety percent of them, I'd say, But when you are
dealing with a site that's called you know, restllpoop shoot
dot net, okay, and they are saying great things about AW,

(02:21:04):
and you go, okay, well, you know what, the AW.

Speaker 3 (02:21:07):
Flew them to Australia to go see Grand Slam.

Speaker 2 (02:21:10):
It's like, you don't they pay AW doesn't pay these
outlets in.

Speaker 3 (02:21:17):
Money. They pay them in access, right, So it's so
it's not yes, do you hate it?

Speaker 6 (02:21:22):
Yes, but you're at the same time you're like, look
the guy running movie poop or wrestling poopshoot dot net
is probably very similar to me if I didn't have
a podcast or something. Right, So, if it's just a
regular dude who doesn't have a voice out there too
much and wants to do a blog and suddenly AW
comes out and says, hey, you know what, I like

(02:21:44):
your blog, I'm gonna fly you to Australia. Right, it
might not make you say nice, It might not be
like you. It might be like, I'm going to say
nice things about AW to make sure they keep doing this.
But I'm sure you are way more like to like
Tony Kahan and have a positive opinion about him and
hope that AO does well if these people are giving

(02:22:06):
you this. So it's not even so much an integrity
thing as it's just he's taking advantage of fans, because
all these people are fans, they're not journalists.

Speaker 3 (02:22:15):
Dave Meltzer, on the other hand, has no excuse for
doing this.

Speaker 5 (02:22:21):
You want to see a Groc had to say, yes,
of course I do.

Speaker 2 (02:22:24):
So I said, I don't know if you guys could
even see this, So I said, I said, hey, Roc,
did you see that. Dave Meltzer tried to argue with
you and correct your numbers, and Groc said, haha, Dave
Meltzer coming from my numbers, that's rich. I haven't seen
any direct call out from him, but if he's trying
to argue with my data, he'd better bring some solid receipts.
I'm just chilling with my near infinite knowledge base, ready

(02:22:45):
to fact check any wrestling hotas not a specific claim
or number that he's supposedly correcting, Lay it on me
and I'll dig into it faster than he'll turn at WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (02:22:54):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (02:22:56):
Sorry, So I showed Groc the screenshot and he goes,
thanks for sharing that post. So he's corrected my numbers,
saying debut viewership is five point nine million, not four
point nine, and arguing the two point seven million for
the May twelve episode is implausible unless almost no one
watch live, which he claims isn't the case. Now. I
don't have the exact context of the show or episode
that he's referring to, but I can reason through this.

(02:23:17):
My original post mentioned to thirty five percent drop in
US viewership with the May twelfth episode at two point
seven million global views if the debut is five point
nine as Meltzer claims a thirty five percent drop of
the US viewership fell to about three point eight million. However,
my two point seven million figure was for global views,
not just the US, which complicates things. Global numbers should
be higher than US only. Meltzer's point about live viewership

(02:23:40):
makes sense for traditional TV ratings, where live numbers dominate,
But if this is a Netflix show, as my post suggests,
viewership metrics are different. Netflix typically reports views over a
longer period example given first twenty eight days, not just
live or same day, So two point seven million global
views for an episode could be plausible depending on the

(02:24:00):
reporting window and audience behavior. I might have under I
might have understated the dbut of forty point nine million
if Meltzer's five point nine is accurate, But without access
to the raw data or the specific show metrics, I
can't confirm. Maybe like I can search with the exact
viewersh we need to do a thing now where everything,
every wild thing that he says.

Speaker 6 (02:24:18):
We run it by grock making Oh we're gonna start,
Can we use your grock so that now it has
that basis?

Speaker 2 (02:24:25):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'll do it. I'll run I'll run
everything by Grock. I would love I would love it
if this becomes a feud, it would be the guys.
And when he when he posts like outrageous things, just
reply to it. At Grock, is this true? Like a
Rock and groc will will do. I mean, none of
us can because we're all block but Grock will Grock

(02:24:47):
will then like you know, pick it apart.

Speaker 3 (02:24:50):
So what okay? What you well? The funniest part about
this is very subtle.

Speaker 6 (02:24:55):
But Grock was willing to admit they might be wrong,
and Dave Meltzer was I know, the AI.

Speaker 5 (02:25:03):
Was willing to maybe my numbers were wrong. With Dave
Melncer's like I'm sure of everything, everything I've ever said.

Speaker 3 (02:25:07):
It's a fact crockets more humble.

Speaker 2 (02:25:10):
Than Grocket, the AI created by Elon Musk, well, not
by him directly, but you get it, like, is more
humble than Dave Melzer.

Speaker 7 (02:25:24):
My favorite thing about crock is that like when you
do ask it to a search, you do have it
like digging anything deep search. It'll actually even give you
all of the citations and reference.

Speaker 10 (02:25:33):
Yeah, check it for yourself.

Speaker 3 (02:25:36):
And when I tell Crockets wrong, it's like, oh shit,
you're right. I'm sorry. My bad.

Speaker 2 (02:25:42):
Like it's listen, that's the AI is not a perfect
AI can be wrong, AI can lie. So you know,
it's like I used it.

Speaker 6 (02:25:51):
Somebody asked me if I could get a list or
if if I had a list of all the terrible
things Aw's done in the past like six years. And
I kind of have like some out line done from
something I was doing for Awful, but I didn't have
the full list. Apparently I got recommended from the Jim
Cornett reddit apparently, but so I went. But I went
into groc and I just like it took me off

(02:26:11):
five minutes and they were able to flush it out
and make it look presentable, make it be something that
was usable, and I sent it over. It was my data,
but they kind of cleaned it up. And that's what
Grock is good for. That's what these things are good for,
is helping you get.

Speaker 3 (02:26:25):
To an end game. It's not gonna make the endgame
for you, right right.

Speaker 2 (02:26:32):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (02:26:33):
All right, well guys, uh, that's stay for you.

Speaker 2 (02:26:44):
All right, Let's get some more of your super chats
out here, guys, because as you guys know, you are
the heart, you are the beating heart of this show.

Speaker 5 (02:26:51):
So let's see where did we actually leave off?

Speaker 2 (02:26:59):
Perhaps and ah yes, Reginia Sharp for five dollars says,
I challenge you, sir from Tuning Light Glove slab and
very well, I accept pigs of a metal gauntlet and clonkson.

Speaker 3 (02:27:09):
Oh no fair.

Speaker 5 (02:27:12):
Reginia Sharp for five hole says oh my god, heal.
This has made WWE the UFC gateway drug. William Thompson
showing up for two dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:27:21):
Hello William Thompson, Good to see you here, my friend says, sorry,
I'm late, Marvin. I'll still be here on Thursday. Well, hopefully,
hopefully you will. My friends, it should be a good
one on Thursday to talk to TV. I believe we
are currently slated to do our one year anniversary show,
though I might move that back to next week if
certain people are not able to make it the way

(02:27:42):
I don't know if they were being serious to me,
so we will see. But Thursday will be a great show,
regardless of whether it's this week or next week. That's
our big celebratory stream CWJA one twenty for two dollars
is last year WWE had more revenue than the UFC,
so they're all push it back on you diss, I
think with yes, yeah, Andre Adams uh for four ninety nine.

(02:28:07):
Is Adam Cole built like he tapped out to a
purple marple and Adam Cole walked out after that anarchy
in the arena match. That was That was my abandon
all hope like that, that was my moment, like the
like the kid in the hockey episode of South Park
that's going there's no hope, no hope and then he
flat lines like that was me when Adam Cole walked

(02:28:29):
out after that match. Regina Shart for five so is
remember that time fifteen Midgutes took on Lois and that
Russian illegal file fighting ring.

Speaker 10 (02:28:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:28:39):
Regina Sharp for five says Osbrey speaks very coherent brovelish.
You just need to study brovlish c wj W twenty
eight for two dollars is one thousand brums and film
did not draw, didn't draw dime. That's my favorite thing.

Speaker 5 (02:28:54):
He broke ten thousand guitars. Didn't draw dime with Eddie Gilbert.

Speaker 6 (02:29:01):
It was Eddie Gilbert was roundtable, legends, roundtable. It wasn't
Gilbert was somebody's brother.

Speaker 3 (02:29:08):
Wasn't it.

Speaker 10 (02:29:08):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:29:08):
I think I think it was I'm pretty sure it
was Eddie Gilbert.

Speaker 3 (02:29:12):
Maybe not. No, it was Graham.

Speaker 2 (02:29:14):
It was Geddy g Graham, Yes, the Graham kid. Yeah
it was yeah so And that was in the Monday
Night Wars documentary.

Speaker 5 (02:29:23):
Gotcha, Ok, Yeah, that's where it was from.

Speaker 2 (02:29:25):
I remember that.

Speaker 3 (02:29:26):
I just remember him from the from the opening of
Legends of Legends Roundtable.

Speaker 2 (02:29:30):
It was, by the way, unfair.

Speaker 5 (02:29:31):
I I still I love Jeff Jarrett.

Speaker 2 (02:29:33):
I you know, I think that the never drew a
dime meme is funny, but Jeff Jarrett, you know, he
drew some dimes in his day.

Speaker 3 (02:29:40):
Your wild hold on, let's let's see it like that
slap double j Jeff Jarrett. Uh, he was confused. Look
up Marti D one, two, three, Yeah, you'll.

Speaker 5 (02:30:03):
Enjoy it, like hold on, I'll play one more.

Speaker 2 (02:30:04):
Time wild slaps double j Jeff Cher. There's so many
questions right, like why is there a bird with hul
Cogan's head on it?

Speaker 3 (02:30:18):
I'd love to get MARKI on the show one time.
That'd be. That'd be a guest that I'd like.

Speaker 2 (02:30:21):
That would be. I would freak out for that man,
because I think he's the best. I think he's just incredible,
He said, what the hell that.

Speaker 3 (02:30:28):
I just watch?

Speaker 2 (02:30:29):
Watching serious wild slap double j Jeff Cher here, I'll
give I'll give you, I'll give you a palate.

Speaker 3 (02:31:05):
That's a better that's a better reaction than we ever
got from Tom to be fair.

Speaker 2 (02:31:11):
All right, all right time, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna
I won't hurt you anymore dancing.

Speaker 3 (02:31:17):
It's not just me.

Speaker 5 (02:31:23):
I couldn't even I couldn't even make that one. Continue
to play.

Speaker 2 (02:31:26):
It's a forty nine second clip and it's hard to
get it's very hard to get through. You are right,
you're questioning, your questioning life.

Speaker 3 (02:31:35):
Were almost We're almost done, We're almost done this.

Speaker 2 (02:31:37):
Finally you talked me into this.

Speaker 8 (02:31:46):
It wasn't as bad. Actually, that was that was that
was That was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:31:50):
That wasn't that.

Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
I'm literally trying. I'm trying to bring you back up. Now,
hold on, I like my opponents our dode with your
boys hollow I'm gonna be Peter, Peter the puncket here,
and it's gonna be my My.

Speaker 10 (02:32:09):
Is not hollow me.

Speaker 3 (02:32:10):
It's long, bro.

Speaker 5 (02:32:12):
You don't mean before the hands In the print to do.

Speaker 2 (02:32:17):
Face to rever it says that Scott's always just been
in oh there there, He's just he's amazing. He's absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:32:28):
We need to get basketballs. Don't hold grudges by Batista.

Speaker 2 (02:32:34):
Uh you know what I mean. I just I need
to I need to clip the Scott Steiner workout video
and just like play clips from Metal Blackout The Pain
Make your Body Grow. I love Nick's issue size is
to back.

Speaker 4 (02:32:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:32:54):
Yes, there's a Scott Segner workout video and apparently didn't
sell very well.

Speaker 8 (02:32:58):
It isn't why.

Speaker 2 (02:33:01):
It's the most insane thing because it's like him lifting
like tree trunks and like squatting with like women on
his shoulders. Yeah, like like you know how some workout
videos coming like resistance bands, Like I'm pretty sure this
one comes with like like two hookers at a tree
trunk the whole time, the giant more giant mooring chains

(02:33:23):
that normally pull boats into the into the harbor.

Speaker 7 (02:33:26):
For you to lift three uh three prostitute two wave
belts and a eight ball on a on a pear tree.

Speaker 5 (02:33:36):
Got take the bump off of his peak on top.

Speaker 2 (02:33:39):
Of a peak andre a one nine nine is osprey
talk like he tongue kissed Piranhas and finally Liquid Fox
for two dollars Canadians, Is I just realized I'm six
months smoke free.

Speaker 3 (02:33:54):
I did it.

Speaker 5 (02:33:54):
You did it, man, that's all that that I you
know what that's not?

Speaker 2 (02:33:58):
That is awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:33:58):
I need to play you something laboratory.

Speaker 2 (02:34:02):
Two. Uh, here we go.

Speaker 10 (02:34:09):
The same team.

Speaker 2 (02:34:13):
Uh all right, well that doesn't for one more? Put
on a con for five dollars. JC Jane just beats
Stephanie Vacker for the title My god, what have they
done to my booty full? Queen? And then of course
he closes it with a nice strong.

Speaker 5 (02:34:32):
Oh my goodness. So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:34:34):
That's interesting that they that they took the belt off
stuff now and didn't put it on Jordan Grace.

Speaker 6 (02:34:40):
Yeah, that is actually I'm surprised, Unles they're unless they're
fast tracking her call up or if she got injured.

Speaker 5 (02:34:45):
Well, I think I think that they.

Speaker 2 (02:34:46):
Are gonna just drop the majority of these NXT women
on the roster at the same time, and the rest
of the roster is gonna have to sink a swim.

Speaker 6 (02:34:53):
But it might be an evolution. Yeah, she might want
the roster for evolution so they can build something there
for it's.

Speaker 7 (02:35:01):
Yeah, I could see that and then probably have May
transition to n XP if she's actually signing to w W.

Speaker 3 (02:35:09):
A if she signs.

Speaker 6 (02:35:10):
Yeah, you know, I I'm I'm I'm not as doubtful
as I was about three weeks ago about that, because
three weeks ago it sounded a whole lot like it
did when Daniel Garciu was gonna go to w W,
you know what I mean, Like where it was a
lot of hype that I don't believe existed that was
just gonna be it was. It was made to make
it look awesome when he signed with AW, like he

(02:35:31):
was making a big choice, And that's what it felt
like with me at first.

Speaker 3 (02:35:34):
But it's gone on too long at this point.

Speaker 8 (02:35:36):
So yeah, me and me, m J and I have
a treaments on this.

Speaker 7 (02:35:41):
But Mariah May, I would put her in the same
like ballpark signing them as I put like effect here.

Speaker 8 (02:35:48):
I really think it's a bigger deal than.

Speaker 7 (02:35:51):
Credit for and I think that AW drastically drop the
ball and letting her walk up.

Speaker 6 (02:35:58):
Yeah, the only thing I would say about May is
that I just don't know if WB has room for her,
you know, I mean, they have so many women coming up,
and it just makes you wonder where she fits.

Speaker 7 (02:36:12):
Well, one spot on the main roster certainly just recently
opened up for the next year.

Speaker 8 (02:36:19):
True, yeah, right, Like there's definitely there's definitely room.

Speaker 7 (02:36:23):
And I think she's got she's got more charisma than
a lot of the people on the main roster. She's
actually pretty talented in the ring. I think that she's
one of those kinds of talents that if she's given
the opportunity, she don't make spots.

Speaker 6 (02:36:37):
Although you know, I did read today that they're I'm
thinking Chelsea's going to miss any TV time.

Speaker 5 (02:36:43):
After that she's broke a broken nose.

Speaker 6 (02:36:45):
Yeah, apparently she's not going to miss any I know
that's not what you're talking about, But I'm just saying that, no,
no a mass in her. Yeah, I'm just I'm just
that shows you what kind of how how important they
view her that they wouldn't at least give her a
week off or something like that, you know, because she
really does have a lot like she is. She is
something I look forward to watching every every Friday night,

(02:37:07):
and so does my kid. And when both of us
are in that boat, you know you're onto something there, you.

Speaker 7 (02:37:12):
Know, Chelsea Green is a special talent. I've been saying it.
I've been saying it since she got signed. When she
got signed, I was so excited because she just seemed
a for w w uh like she's she's she's just
like she makes every second count on TV and it's
always fun.

Speaker 3 (02:37:31):
And she's not afraid to be a heel. She's not afraid.

Speaker 6 (02:37:34):
She's not afraid to heat, which a lot of women
are afraid of heat when they get to the main
roster for some reason. They'll do it in the next
team and then they get to the main roster and
they gotta do that. Indie, make the crowds here for me,
thank even when they're heels, and it's nice to find one.
And really it goes for guys too. It's just I
think we know some more with women recently because there's
more women recently that are coming through the system.

Speaker 2 (02:37:53):
So m all right, gentlemen. That brings us to the
end of the show for tonight. A big thank you
to everyone who chattered, super chatted. Huge thank you to
Armond extraordinary aw neckbeard over there in the chat keeping
you guys company all night and time. Big thank you
to you watch to the fine folks where they can find,
you know, five John line or whatever it does you
want to promote.

Speaker 7 (02:38:15):
H Yeah, if you feel like they followed me, you
can catch me over at X It's at time Understore,
traveling travel with an I n at the end this
Leanke's me here earlier and outside of that, I am
pretty much just that's it.

Speaker 6 (02:38:33):
Just on.

Speaker 3 (02:38:35):
H dis anything you want to promote this week, Touney,
just do lol. That is our discord. You can head
out there and we always have fun in there. Like
I said, I think I might do that time that
tag team thing at some point.

Speaker 6 (02:38:48):
Also, you know what, Awful did not make it, but
he did just release a video today on his YouTube channel.

Speaker 5 (02:38:54):
I was going to promote his YouTube channel and be
the nice guy.

Speaker 3 (02:38:57):
I'm sorry, are you I thought I was. I'm always
the one that has to talk for Awful when he's
no check.

Speaker 2 (02:39:07):
Yes, make sure you make sure you check out Awful's
YouTube channel, Awful Wrestling over on YouTube. He does great,
great work over there, and he needs a lot more
support over there, So make sure you guys are checking
it out and giving him all of the support that
you can possibly muster.

Speaker 1 (02:39:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:39:20):
And of course guys for me. So we've got Tonytown
TV over there, our sister channel, which has got new
videos coming out every single week. You can become a
member over there for early access to videos plus exclusives
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Talk TV on Thursday night, eight pm Eastern Standard time.
It is not, I don't believe going to be our
one year anniversary special. I believe I am pushing that

(02:39:41):
to next week just because some of my regular cast
members are a little iffy on whether or not they're
going to actually be there. So I am gonna be
on the safe side because I want the whole family
there together for it. But make sure you're check it out.
Of course, guys, that park place every single day for
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movies about out, you know, movies, TV, video games, theme parks,

(02:40:04):
you name it, we got it. So make sure you're
checking that out every single day. All right, Thank you
guys very much for joining us from almost here at
the Tuny Down Channels. I'm Marv in the movie Monster
now gonna now Betty the Platypus that half of my
thank youin it. Do thank you your piece of trash.

(02:40:30):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:40:35):
Oh I suppose you want me let's say thank you?
Oh what saying thank you?

Speaker 2 (02:40:41):
It is like jobbing thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:40:44):
A little message.

Speaker 5 (02:40:47):
Thank you, Oh.

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Thank you, and you us like you.

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