Tony Khan's Major Announcement, Olympic Pro Wrestling, & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ladies and gentlemen, before we begin tonight's obscene rude in
town right appalling live stream. All Elite Wrestling is proud
to hijack this feed to present a major announcement from
the One, the only, the savior of Real pro Wrestling,
the avatar of virtue, the martyr of the mat, the
bestest boy who is in no way a disappointment to

(00:28):
his father, Tony Khan.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Don't meet co wrestle and save you. He's the Bob.
Yeah easy, don't meet come, excuse and wrestle loose hoogs
and you muppy your drugs. Yeah, he'sy to.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Thanks guys, and greetings to fans of Real pro wrestling.
It is I the one and Only Toony Con and
I'm here to make a mayor announcement. Before I begin,
I would like to announce that tonight's announcement is going
to be a major one, and it is no way
a ratings play to try to get more people watching

(01:16):
at the beginning of this show. It's also in no
way a pandering attempt to make you laugh so that
you'll super chat more. And it's certainly not just a
way to kill time to let more people filter in
as the show begins.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
All right, now that.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's out of the way, we can announce the announcement.
I Tony con am proud to announce that uh a
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doing exciting things that cost money and will lead to

(01:52):
big success.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
And who started yet? Crap, Tony, what the hell are
you doing here making a huge announcement monster? No, you're not.
I know you're using this failing tactic to try and
bring views into dynamite this week because you've been floundering
in the low six hundred thousands and you're hoping for

(02:14):
a big pickup so that you can blame the Olympics
for your terrible ratings.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
My terrible ratings, which are still more respectable when you
understand how TV works or because of the Olympics and
nothing else that.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Go ahead, just make your stupid announcement and leave. I
got Ann Evans back here. Oh I thought that was
right back?

Speaker 6 (02:33):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Oh god, I don't. Will you just make your damn
announcement and leave?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Hey, whatever, man, I'm killing so much time that Kevin
Apollo and Awful might actually make it for the beginning
of the show this week.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
You have thirty seconds just.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Saying it was a much nicer show when disc was
hosting Tony Fine. Final right my announcement, I Tony Khan
am thrilled to announce that uh aw all in tickets
are happening.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
And oh my god, you don't actually even have an announcement,
do you shut? I do so wow, I do not
have time for this tonight. We gotta do the show,
and then I gotta finish the Headlock Headlines because they're
dropping at seven am tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I am through to announce that the newest episode of
the Headlock Headlines, sorry me, Tony Khan, will be dropping tomorrow,
August fourteenth, at seven am Central.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Eastern Eastern Sunday time. Wow, this was really stupid.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, but now people won't yell at you for using
me in the thumbnaiw true.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
All right, can you just sign some autographs for producing
neck Beard on your way out?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Kelly our neck Beard gets Chevy Bastard.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Toty con everyone and Headlock Headlines tomorrow morning at seven
am Eastern Standard time. Now, let's get this party started.

(04:35):
Stop boxing.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
You not suble.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
You like please by had something.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
They're not.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Stop rock about the boxing you talk about that sable
you like. Please all right, it is Tuesday night in

(05:23):
Tuny Town, so that can only mean one thing. It
is time for the excuse me, the fastest rising livestream
pro wrestling podcast on the face of this planet. It
is time, folks, for Tuny for Tuty Talk Wrestling. I
am Marvin and I'm the Movie Monster, and I am
thrilled to welcome back my esteemed panel and apologize to
all of you guys for the Tony Khan interruption. That

(05:47):
doesn't happen again. Folks. First of all, I'm pretty sure
I can keep Tony kN away because I got a
big black guy here and he's kind of racist. So
ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Kevin Apollo. Great, I'm in
a moon tonight. I'm in a moon tonight. I'm coming
in guns blazing tonight, my friend. Oh boy, Yeah, how's

(06:12):
it going? All the heat? Yeah, just bringing in all
the heat. You know what I'm gonna just I'm gonna
double up and just make sure that Tuny doesn't come
back with awful wrestling is here?

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:21):
What's going on? Fella?

Speaker 6 (06:26):
Right?

Speaker 5 (06:27):
We gotta get we gotta get right into it because
it's sartting a little bit late. Also, folks, joining us
as always our good friend a w Disciplinary Committee a
k A.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
Diss He said he said it was nice.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
No, he said it was a nicer show.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
It was.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
He didn't say you were nice. I'm pretty sure he
doesn't like you very much. And joining us this week, folks,
one of my favorite people on the planet, the the
the so the YouTube guru himself mm A analyst form
ahead of pof a UFC form ahead of YouTube for
TNA Wrestling. All around, great guy, mister aunt Evan. Welcome.

(07:05):
That's why I text That's why I texted you to
be like, hey, do you not like the rye back jokes?

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Because I mean there's more flattered people everyone to say
you like. To be honest, it was bottling people used
to say Josh Alexander, but you know, ride about It's
like I'm going like fucking lower and lower down the
gene pool as we go.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Oh my goodness, guys, we've got some super chats to
get to before we get started tonight. We've got quite
a few. We've got seven super chats already built up. Wow,
guys are very you guys are super generous. Tonight. I
super super appreciate it. Uh John j I D nine
nine nine check it in for nine nine nine. The
name it works. It's like a gimmick. Thoughts on WWE
being like Universal and aw bing Disney right now. One

(07:50):
is expanding, giving fans what they want, slash making changes,
and the other is shutting away casuals well appealing to
die hots Man. I have corrupted this kid, I have
I have turned him into this like cynical like Disney hating,
like like Goblin the way I am, and I love it.
I love it. He watches me, he watches us over

(08:11):
on the the Pro show of w W Pro, he
watches us over on that Bock place. But yes, I
would make that comparison. I would say, uh, you know,
Universal Studios is, and Universal as just a company is
making big moves while Disney is making backtracks. It does
really kind of remind me of the ae W versus
WWE war here, because you know, one is expanding and

(08:35):
the other is just kind of rehashing old land and uh,
you know, creating more of the same. Kevin Apolo, let's.

Speaker 8 (08:42):
Say you yeah, I'm I'm I'm digging it. I'm cool
with it. The you know, yeah, WWE seems to be
very focused and driven on building their future, and AWS
just kind of I don't even know, say they're training,
they're treading water. I'm really legitimately just don't know. I

(09:05):
can't even say they're swelling their own farts. It's just
they're just kind of existing. They're just kind of there.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Right, No, that's very true. Colin Taylor checking in for
five talents, says, please sing my next super chat like
it's Punk's entrance song. I love only got a super
chat for the super chat that's about to happen. Colin
Taylor checking in for twenty dollars. Not like this committee
and my movie. It's the truth, Dakoda Kazle.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
We've Oh that's rude, That's that's truly.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yeah, she is. She's that white girl that hangs out
in the anime club with all the Asian girls, and
you know they don't actually like her, but you know,
they keep her around because I guess I don't know
a street cred.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Right, somebody's got to drive home, right.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Oh my god, Well done, Coline Taylor. Well done. And
Colin Taylor is allowed to call people weep because I
believe he's from Japan where where by the away cone
chi Wa to all of our Japanese listeners, because apparently
we are pretty big in Japan, just saying nice.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
If we break the top five, I'll reaact the big
in Japan music video.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Well we already were. I mean, like weeks ago we
were the number one pro wrestling podcast in Japan, beating
out Chris Jericho. But yeah, now we were were like
in the twenties. Now that we've kind of like like
you know, cooled down from our initial our initial uh
you know, rush of of listeners.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
But is we something we can't say? Is that? Like,
is that Dave Meltzer it's the W word now.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
I'm pretty sure. Now, I'm pretty no, we're allowed to
say it because it's like about white people's right, like
everything's fair game. Apparently for that.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
I did like that. Did you see that Dave Meltzer's
little thing about Mark being the inward for wrestling fans
came back?

Speaker 5 (10:55):
You know, I did? I did see that is one
of the most tone deaf things he's ever said. This
is the guy, this is the guy that said that
Roman Reigns faked cancer. You know, Lord An's friends with him,
so I try not to rag on him too much.

Speaker 9 (11:10):
What every show, Come on, guys, well let's test this out.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Awful, you're a mark he word?

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, hell, you just say.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
This is canceled. I'm gonna do the other one now, awful.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right there?

Speaker 8 (11:40):
For three? Yeah, you haven't seen the family guy.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Uh episode with Peta is like, I'm gonna I'm gonna
go into the uh it's the black neighborhood and scream
that you know what word. He comes back with a
sash and the crown that says King of the Black people,
and he's like, they respected me, They respected me for it, Lois,
They could do.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
That, think, I mean, I'm going back a bit showing
my age, but they could do that dieholl Die Hard
with a vengeance scene. Instead of having I hate they
have I hate monks, they just stand out of a
do you can see it? Samuel Jackson have to run out,
what the hell you doing? But self killed me?

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Neckbeard's an awful? Are all run into Canva right now
to try to make that real quick and get it on.

Speaker 10 (12:31):
The first Samurai sam for five dollars says, with Randy
likely losing a bash at Berlin, does Randy turn on
Cody to get a title shot, and if so, does
he win against Cody at the losing so many times?

Speaker 5 (12:44):
I look, I think Randy versus Cody is inevitable. It's
a story that needs to be told. It's a mentor
versus student kind of thing. And I think I I
legitimately think that we're at It's been enough time since WrestleMania.
I think Randy could take it for a brief spell.
I think he gets it back before WrestleMania. But I
think I think you give Randy maybe a two month
rain because Randy Orton, thick boy Randy Orton is like

(13:08):
my new favorite thing in the world because he's just
he's come back with a vengeance and I love it.

Speaker 8 (13:14):
It's so funny. My wife just yesterday said, did people
just discover Randy Orton because apparently he's all over her? TikTok.
I guess, I guess women are enjoying thick boy Randy Orton.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
No, that's it because it's thick boy son.

Speaker 11 (13:26):
I remember, yeah, you know, before before the whole John
Cena thing happened, I really thought that that was gonna
be Cody's you know, push into WrestleMania, but I'm starting
to think they might end up doing Cody Sina or
there's also Cody Rock going WrestleMania, So I'm thinking the
first I'm thinking we're gonna get the Randy Orton thing

(13:46):
at stages, especially considering Orton.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
Just signed a five year contract. Yeah, so I could
see this. I can see them doing a face a
face versus face viewed and then pausing and letting Tody
do something out and then Randy comes back around and
turns on him, and then we.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Get you have to do Cody and Rock. At some
point they've set it up, They've teased it. They basically said, hey,
penciled this in. It's coming like a freight train. We're
doing this. So I think you have to kind of,
you know, look at it.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
That was.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Exactly is the final bus it's going to.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Do.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
You think do you think that maybe they do Cody
Rock at like I don't want to say survive a series,
but maybe like December or even at the Rumble and
the Rock actually beats him and faces Roman at WrestleMania
for the title, they actually do it.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
Now, See, I was gonna go the other way. I
was gonna go you do Roman and Rock at WrestleMania,
and then you say Rock and Cody for Summer Slam,
which is the first two night SummerSlam.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Well, because Roman is the guy right now.

Speaker 7 (14:56):
Yeah, and I don't think I don't think Roman and
Solo can can go all the way to Mania. Roman's
gonna need a bigger fight at Mania. So I'm thinking
that's why I said Sen and Cody is just you
got that opportunity, you got one last chance to do it.
It's the only chance you're gonna have to do that
Green match at WrestleMania. It just kind of makes sense
to do it, you know.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
I think I think you'll get Roman and Solo possibly
even at Bash at Berlin. I think that's coming very
soon because you got to get ready for the blowoff
to the Roman Solo pustion of This will likely be
war games that survive a series with four on four.
You got Solo, the Tongans and Uh and Jacob versus Roman,
the Usos and Sammy.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
Yeah right, I'm sorry, it's the tribal chief versus the
High Chief at Mania.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah, it's gotta be right, because that's the fine. It's
the final boss, like you said, like I think Cody
is I think Cody had two years where everything was
all about Cody, and now I think Cody can be
a main guy without having to always be the main focus.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
M hm.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
They got Roman. They finally got Roman to that fever
pitch baby face that they always wanted him to be
for all those years when they were shoving him down
everybody's throats. Now he's that level of open that they
always wanted. I don't think they waste that right. I
also don't think you put the belt right back on
him though, because you know, we just had him as
Championsode and he doesn't need it.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
He doesn't. You know, Roman did rest of his career
without having a belt and be fine.

Speaker 12 (16:27):
You know.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
But that's the other thing you could do. You could
do Cody and Rock at the Rumble and have Roman
costs Rock to match, and then that sparks them into
WrestleMania People's people. Cody wins the people's Chimp. Now Rock's
never dropping that you can meet. Well, you know, because
Muhammad Ali's wife unprovoked made that belt for him with

(16:49):
her bare hands, you know.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Like he was in the mill.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
It was for Mount Doom.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
But another belt was they were all of them deceived?
Where another belt was made, nine were given to the
ae W Roster. Job. I gotta, I gotta make that
whole thing one for the mark Lord on his mark throw.

Speaker 8 (17:23):
Let's say that word.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
In the land of Miami or in the land of
in the land of Hollywood where the shadows. The one
thing I liked from Rings of Power was that song. Okay,
Alejandro Melendez fos Live the Fair saved a man from
the clenches of the wench last night, true love prevailed again.

(17:50):
Behold the power of love. Alejandro's takes like I love
following this feud through his super chats man. They they
are killing it with this, with this storyline. Now I'm
loving it. I mean, look, Live has found her calling.
I mean awful was saying it before we went on
the air. Awful. You want to talk about what you
were saying.

Speaker 13 (18:11):
She has risen, she has raised her stock tenfold in
my eyes. She yeah, she certainly, but uh yeah. The
way she plays her role is perfect. It's shocking that
this wasn't going on for like the last five years
with Live Morgan. She's awesome, outstanding.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
My favorite was when Dom saved her from Rio last
week and they were on a looked on Twitter and
somebody was like, man, Live's giving Dom a whole bunch
of chicken tendies for that one. Dom's getting a whole
bunch of chicken tendies from Live tonight for that one
Live Live quote quote tweeted it and said he's getting
a lot more than that, And I was like, ah,
good for you, your jersey.

Speaker 8 (18:56):
Jersey girl.

Speaker 13 (18:58):
Yeah, because Live is single, you know, unlike some people
who have insecure boyfriends or husbands. At this point, you
can really play the whole like, you know, sexy, sultry,
you know, hoe bag for for Dominic mysterio, it's.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Wait, who Who's who?

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Really was he was Buddy Murphy.

Speaker 13 (19:20):
It's a rumor, but there was a point where it
was just like Rhea Ripley was doing that kind of
stuff with Dominic and then just one day it just stopped.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Oh my goodness. And I hope that they don't change
his name though to Daddy Dom and I hope that
none of you google that. Yeah right, but yeah they
she's taking him under the board walk. Damn. See plenty

(19:50):
it picks ald for five dollars. This is what I
needed today. Let's go to any talk. That is what
I needed today.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
Yeah, do we discuss how Dom got peggy bum deed.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Happened?

Speaker 14 (20:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (20:07):
What happened?

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Well, No, we were saying that, like you know, we
say that.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Don't don't keep it from me, like I'm the the
young cool kid. Tell me what happened.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
We can't.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
I actually explained what I was talking about. We need
a lot of trouble.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, if we, If we do, and it's gonna yell
at mean, that will be the one yelling at me
tomorrow about saying the thing that God is demonetized.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
Just the first just the first three letters from each word,
and you'll have it figured out.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yeah, you know what we all think happened in the Dom.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Somebody wants to clue me in on the super chat,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
John j D nine nine one nine nine says, I
mean that was just wow. Clap clap, clap, clap clap.
I think he was talking about the Cold Open with
Tony Khan el see Killers seventeen for five dollars? Should
I watch Dynamite tomorrow? Or go to a strip club?
Young man? Go to a strip club, definitely.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
But.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Go go do anything else if he was like, should
I watch Dynamite tomorrow with my lawn, I'd be like, what.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
I've been to some really bad strip clubs across America.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, worse than an episode of Dynamite.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yeah. Yeah, I've never got a disease watching unless two mental.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
When we went to When we went to Dallas for
WrestleMania a few years ago, my friend wanted to go
to everyone in the area and we couldn't go to
everyone because Dallas has a lot of them, but with
a couple that were pretty questionable.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
So did they have a breakfast buffet like Ron Swanson?

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Well, there was there was one that was there was
We went to one that was like used to be
owned by somebody from Pantera. That one was pretty cool,
but there was one that was and actually the one
that was really bad, we actually met a wrestler, so
that was kind of funny.

Speaker 13 (22:05):
But aunt got a lap dance from a woman with
one butt cheek.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
No, I did get a let dunce from from a
girl and she bent down and she had like dingle berries.
This cream you can get for that love it really is.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Oh no, oh my god, I was. I was taking
a sip of a drink and now I don't want
to drink it.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Anything on this topic. I spelled out with a minfor
you in the private chat if you want to check it.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
I was, I was. I was like, Oh, somebody in
the private chat needs something. No, it's just saying things
that we're not allowed to say because YouTube is prude.
All went out for the homies. Oh my goodness. M
j G for nine nine nine says, what do you
make of the rhyme? Is an a W fan seeking
cheaper ways a few pay per views while also pushing

(23:03):
for them to get a premium for these rights. Not
changing a W while devaluing the brand is weird fandom. Oh,
I agree that whenever, whenever you know they want a
W to succeed, but whenever it's time for the the
pay per views to roll around, it's all of a sudden,
as we like to say around here, Yo ho, brother,
it's pirate time. I have never seen a fan base

(23:26):
steal from the company they claim to love more than
the AW fans.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
Is not giving them permission to get the pay per
view from the basement.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
That's why.

Speaker 13 (23:36):
There's a journalist named Andrew Badala and he he talks
about like, uh, you know what, AW needs to drop
its ticket prices. I'm like, why would why would he wanted?
Why would they want that to happen? They've got there,
they're swimming in in in no money. They need to
They need to raise ticket prices and also raise their

(23:57):
quality of matches.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Wasn't it?

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Did you this thing that they're doing an AW like
pay per view bundle, Well, like you can buy you
can buy like all the AW pay per views, like
for a year from Trilla, like like in a bundle,
like buy them before, like Sight Unseen. So you have
no idea if you're actually interested in these shows, but
you can buy them all.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
And that's desperation tactics. That's the company doesn't think that
they can hard sell you the final few weeks. That's
what that is.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
You know what that also tells me is that we're
not about to hear an announcement that they're going to
be suddenly uh you know, streaming their pay per views
on Max.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Maybe, but you know they'll just there'll be clauses in
that that they can wrap it up at any point
with with with little or no notice.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Maybe you know what I can I.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Can Maybe I can ask because my old boss just
just became the head of Trillo TV winter. Wow.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Really that's probably the service that I'm going to be
using to get all in because we're going to be
live streaming.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
During it this yes, of course, great, yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
Good test fight doesn't fall down on its sauce all
the time.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
How much how much do they say any w paperviews cost?
And I think fifty bucks around.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
I've never boat and I always I always got a freebie.
I'm connected it.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
Oh my goodness, me too, I always get a free
I always get a freebe because I'm connected. That's why
brother yeah connected to crime in my source is startling.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
And really bad eggs Josh for one Night nine is
Randy Orton is having his brat summer BT to Honey
free for twenty dollars, thank you so much, says with
Sammy losing and nothing for Jay? Jay should go to SmackDown?
Should Jay go to SmackDown? For Roman? Uh? For Tony Kahan?

(26:09):
The way I would book Brian's year is to have
him beat Swerve it all in, then Swerve beats page
it all out. Have Brian Swerve or Brian Swerve Darby
at wrestle dream and Washington. I think that's a solid
booking plan. But do you guys think they're gonna take
it off of Swerve to put it onto to Danielson. Now,
I think I think Danielson might be of that like

(26:30):
Tommy Dreamer mindset of where he's like, I just want
to be the workhorse. I want to be the guy
that gets guys over. I never want the belt because
isn't that weird.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
You can get you can get somebody over by dropping
the belt to them. Though that's awesome, true, that's that's
the conversation. So it needs to have with him.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Didn't he call for his retirement a year ago?

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Yeah, this is this is kind of being built as
his It's not his retirement match, but it's last it's
his last full time match. And I saw, you know,
I saw a weird thing, but I could It's it's
I could oddly see it. Where as like, because you
know Tony wants to give him that belt, you know
he wants to so bad. Probably I could absolutely see

(27:12):
something where at the very last minute, he goes, you're
winning the belt, You're winning it. I'm giving you the belt,
like just kind of and even if Danielson just retires
and gives it up right afterwards. I could see him
doing I could see him. He's such a mark. I
could see him doing it because he's such a mark.
And just to say that I gave Brian Danielson my
world title on his last full time match. I can

(27:33):
absolutely see him doing that.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
Mm hmmm, yeah, no, I can. We can all see it.
But I think also like Swerve has not had a
good enough like at this point, if you take the
belt off Swerve right now, Swerve's title reign is a
is an utter failure because it is not moved the needle.
The needle has gone down right. And it's almost like
a Kathleen Kennedy situation where it's like, well, if she

(27:59):
leaves now, she leave in disgrace. So she's been reading
for like a big win. I think, do you think
it's time to take it off Swerve and move on
or do you think that they need to like give
him something good? You gotta have.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
On?

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Are they capable of giving Swerve anything good?

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Having good matches? It's by a w standards is is
kind of what the success is for them, is all
you have in good matches? Okay, cool, and they don't
look at many of the matrics that that you know
that deeply.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
I know we're gonna that she was a barn burner.
We're going to which nobody works.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
We're gonna talk about him later. But the Devil taught
me that it doesn't matter how many five classics you
have on a show if there's nothing for the audience
to grab onto. No heat equals no house. And this
is the this is the the definition of insanity with
no story.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah house.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
I think I think that anybody mm hm, anybody who
is going after aw and holding up their champions not
moving the needle as a reason to go after them,
is being silly because it doesn't They could have, like
the Sword could be doing the best work of his
career and being, you know, be the best champion in
the world right now, they'd still be going down because

(29:26):
the company has no direction and they have no idea
what they're doing. MJF didn't move the needle, Samoa Joe
didn't move the needle. He's not moving the needle, and
the next guy is not going to move the needle
unless the whole company. It's a bigger thing than having
a champion. That's booked well, and so a magic you know,
switching his booking to where Tony actually cares and books
them well isn't going to change anything unless they can

(29:48):
get the rest of the show going with it. Because
Tony can book one good thing at a time, right,
But it's about it's about putting. He's done it before,
but it's yeah, yes, yeah, I mean that's why he
needs more like a full booking team.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
So Tony has his one good idea, then the other
guy has his one or two good ideas, and the
other girl has her one or two good ideas, and
then you've got five or six good ideas rather than one,
and you then you might get some momentum.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
What what the heck was that that I saw Swerve
in the ring trading weak forearms and chops with some meatball?

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Oh is that the one that That's the one that
melts has said is Van Gore?

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yeah, went mental and painting.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Eight yellow paint his ear.

Speaker 8 (30:38):
I believe, said yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
When I saw that, that's.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Different people. You racist.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
I don't believe Dave Meltson is Asian, but uh still
I think awful. I think Awful is racist. Okay, so
get your super chats in and we will read them
a lot on the air, as we have been doing.
But for now, I think it's time to go through.
Uh you know what I.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
Think, Sammy, we miss Sammy and Jay from the last one.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Oh, Sammy and Ja. Yes, yeah, I mean I would,
I would send them back to I would. They're gonna
have to go to SmackDown to join up in Roman,
right like, yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
When Jimmy comes back first, you'll see if you'll see
the movement.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Do you think Jimmy has to come back first or
do you think Jay is gonna get involved first and
then Jimmy will come in to save Jay.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
I think Roman or whatever I guess. Whenever we find
out if Jacob is actually hurt, that will probably when
they start putting heat on Roman. No one's coming to
smack Down until Roman gets laid out. The once once
Roman's actually in trouble and you can see, uh you know,
you have the time from to get a little sympathy,
then the family starts to coal us.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
When when when you look at the the Jacob situation,
I mean, he's clearly not actually hurt. You you injured
you you quote unquote work injured him because you didn't.
It's he can't be bumping Roman around, and Roman can't
be bumping him around, so you had to take him out.
You had to take him out and put him on
the sidelines for a someon because they may they've built

(32:29):
him up too much. At this point, I think.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, he overshadowed the entire group if you asked me, well.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Because he he is a star, like that guy's a
legitimate star. He's he's the future. And you know when
I was when we were watching SummerSlam and I was
watching Solo, and then when I watched him again on
on SmackDown, I was like, oh man, this guy, ain't
it Like you know, he's the comparison I think I
made on Twitter was Solo, so CoA is Golda. He

(33:00):
is the henchman. He is the guy that you beat
to get to the guy, a capable guy. He's not
bebopping rock Steady, but I mean, he's he's gold who
you know, would fight the entire the entire Power Ranger
team at the same time before you got to you know,
Lord Z or whoever it was.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
And I'm glad, I'm glad I actually got that reference.
At first, I thought you were just pronouncing gold dost
him and really realized, like, why is he pronouncing gold
like goldf No, he needs the guy, the freaking guy
from Power Rangers. Yeah, I got it, I got it.
I do get some of.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
It was my generation, you know. It was kind of
for keV, for me, for me and keV because Kevin
and I talk about Goldar all the time. We've big
gold on Mars.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
But ye have and I we're talking, I have been
talking about this for a while. Where it's that's howl
was supposed to be. That's what we're supposed to think
of him, is that he can't. He's not ready for this.
He's not that guy. He's gonna he's gonna grow into
a great arn Anderson, but he's never gonna be Ricklayer.
And I don't think they expected Jacob, though I do

(34:05):
think that kind of threw threw a wrench in their plants.
I don't think they expected him to get over the
way he has or perform.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
The fans just like embraced him right away, right, I mean,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
And they didn't really have a history with him.

Speaker 8 (34:19):
What's not because I'm sorry, when you give someone a
fire and the entrance that means that someone, someone something.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Look at the end of the day, he is a
force of nature and you see this like this absolute
unit of a human being come in screaming and wrecking people,
gets hit with Randy Orten's d T and then pops
back up immediately. A star was born that night. I mean,
he he's the guy. You're gonna see him in the
main event of WrestleMania. I think within the next five

(34:50):
to seven years. You know, there's gonna I think there's
gonna be a very long ICY title or US title
reign in his future, and he's gonna be the guy
to you know you put it. I think he's the
guy that Hayman ends up going with when Roman's gone.
But I don't know, man, he's just amazing. Shaggie Phild
seventy three to ten dollars checking in and says the

(35:12):
only way to save Aw's ratings is to hold out
hope all the people who suffer from ADHD discover Aw's existence.
That's the only ones who can find high spot matches
with zero stories. Interesting, Yeah, I you know what Shackie
felt seventy three You what you want? Correct in that assumption,
like everyone with ADHD, like just you know, get get
a you know, get a list of everyone who has

(35:34):
who's medicated, and just like automatically switch the channels over
to TBS one Wednesday night. See what happens.

Speaker 13 (35:40):
They go to commercials like ADHD, like, oh, You'll be
in the middle of a match, all of a sudden
the taco bell ad shows up, Like.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Well, I wouldn't say sometimes, yeah, sometimes you go to
sometimes you go to a taco bell ad right in
the middle of a uh right right, yeah, right in
the middle of a hype video for one of your
main guys. Who's a little beam pole you know nothing.

Speaker 7 (36:01):
I think ADHD is a very politically correct term to
use there. I can think of about five other disorders
that fit that description.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Better produce a wise man neck Beard for two dollars,
Canadian says Solo is stop Scream, Roman is Megatron.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
And beautiful beautiful beard yep.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Ruben Haunt for five dollars said should Bronson Reid fight
Odyssey Jones or Broun to the big fight he wants? Oh,
I would like to see with Broun. Honestly, Jones, I
was not super impressed with Otsie Jones last night. That
match was.

Speaker 13 (36:38):
Introduction was good, but yeah match, yeah, you're exact to
be fair.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
Heres a year so you know, his introduction.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Was fantastic when he came in and he was doing
the double sidewalk slam and he looked I was excited
for him. And then last night, man, when he was fighting,
when he was facing that NXT guy, the performance on
a guy, I was just like, man, this this ain't it.
This ain't it.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
I think he's the one turning heel by the way.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Oh you think you think Xavier is a red herring.

Speaker 7 (37:05):
I think it's a red herring. I think Jones is
the one turning heel it like he was thrown in
by uh the Final Testament to throw a wrench at him,
you know that whole thing. That's my Yeah, that's what
I'm thinking right now, but.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
A lot more than Testament on my TV. So I
hope you're wrong.

Speaker 8 (37:25):
What a swerve, bro.

Speaker 13 (37:28):
Please don't hear him up with Bronson Reid so they
can become the Twin Towers.

Speaker 14 (37:34):
Oh yeah, actual disasters.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
Yeah yeah, I don't think we're getting Twin Towers ever again,
but that's awful.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
That all right, we'll call them World Trade centers.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
John John j D nine nine nine nine. As I
have ADHD, Tony is on five Vans seventy milligrams. Definitely,
oh man, I would explain why he doesn't blink, blake,
moist and eyelids.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Let's cocaine is only one molecule, like from adderall.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
That is true. That is true.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
I was on ADDIRL for years, and you know, I've
also done some of the other stuff when I was
a little younger.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
And the difference the first time I went, the first
time I ever went on ADHD medication, I was so
wired and just felt like I could like lift the world.
And I remember I reached out to my one friend
who I knew had a fun past, and I was like,
is this what coke? Was like? Yeah, pretty much. I

(38:39):
was like, oh, I could have totally gotten behind that
those days.

Speaker 8 (38:45):
Conversation kids, No, just feel great.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
It makes you feel great and thin kidding.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Don't do drugs alone, do.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
Not that is yeah, that is not a thing. Don't
do drugs. I look dynamite. I don't I look I am.
I am almost straight edge pretty much. I I've never
done drugs and I've drink very seldomly, but uh.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yeah, the what about the gear? Did you tell me
the gear?

Speaker 4 (39:17):
The what the gear?

Speaker 6 (39:20):
Tr t you? The steroids? You told me about that?

Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yeah, No, I was never the I was never on. No,
I never did that, trust me, I never did that.
I would have.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
I'm sure he was what shocking?

Speaker 5 (39:36):
No, maybe more drugs. Oh my goodness. All right, so
let me look at us.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
Why he's going to be fed? He always had the monkeys?

Speaker 5 (39:51):
Very true? That is very very true. You know what,
I think it's we're having fun, but I think it
is time we have to talk about something that's not
as fun, and that is the fact that wrestling lost
a legend of the ring this past week when the
task Master Kevin Sullivan tragically passed away. keV, how old
was he? Seventy four four years seventy four years old.

(40:14):
Now I'm gonna let Kevin Apollo kind of lead this
conversation because Kevin knew Kevin Sullivan and worked with him
pretty closely. So keV tell us a little bit about
Kevin Sullivan the man as you knew him.

Speaker 8 (40:24):
Dude, Kevin Sullivan was awesome. I met him at one
of my mall shows, I think twenty twenty two. A
last minute edition. Someone that he works with was like, Hey,
I've got Sullivan in town. Can he come to a signing?
And I felt bad because it was a so last
minute no one you know, even really knew he was there.

(40:46):
But he got there super early. You know, I got
him hooked up and he just kind of hung out.
And at the end of the show he walks in
and goes I think this is the meaning of Lennon
and my Cotney. We sat down and he just like
dumped a world's worth of knowledge. And he's a very

(41:07):
given guy, very giving guy. Love loved, loved doing all
this stuff, you know, checked in again. Just it's it's
unfortunate that you know that someone was such as a
great mind. We we we kind of, you know, we
we lost him a little too soon. Although listen, at
seventy four, to have the career he had and live

(41:28):
the life he lived, you know, most of us going
only be but so lucky. But I really feel like
he had a he had, He had a lot more
to give, He had a lot more to give, He
had a lot more to do. But what a what
a gentleman, what a professional just just just just just
a good human, you know, just a good human.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
I'm one of the greatest minds of all time, right,
I mean, like the booker of w c W during
Boom period. You know, just great, write a great I
think maybe on in honor of Kevin Salvan over on Patreon, keV,
you and I should do a watch along of Hulk
Get in the Dungeon to Doom.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
Also, I would you know my favorite, my favorite Sullivan thing.
I had to ask him about it. So it's in Florida,
and I think I can't. I think it's Purple Hazes
wrestling Blackjack Mulligan and then so obviously Sullivan comes down
and then the two of them start beating up on Blackjack,
and then Dusty runs in and all hell breaks loose,
and then Sullivan has a spike and he runs over
to stab Dusty, but then Blackjack pushes him out of

(42:25):
the way and he gets stabbed in the eye and
he's bleeding from the eye, and Dusty's and all the
baby faces run down and then the story goes. Sullivan
is suspended immediately, and then somehow he petitions the NWA
to bring him back and he has to make an
apology on TV and he's sitting there with this box
in his lap, giant but looks like a cake box.

(42:48):
And while he's talking, is I'm sigh for what I did,
but none of that madness because the king is dead.
And he opens up the box and he pulls out
a dummy of black Jack Bulligan's head and the everybody
starts freaking out. It was great, and he's and he
starts that king is dead, that king is dead. So

(43:15):
I was like, it's like, listen, if you even remember this,
how did you guys get away with that? It's like,
I know, it was the eighties. It was a magical time.
And he starts laughing. He goes, oh, it's because we
donated to the Boys and Girls Club in the PBAs.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
They want us to do whatever we.

Speaker 8 (43:32):
Wanted to do, whatever we were in town because they
knew they might gotta get money. It was just a laugh.

Speaker 13 (43:41):
I got a question how how much of his size
affected him, uh doing the more quote unquote satanic gimmick?
Was that a thing that helped him despite his you know,
because this was the land the giants back then.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
He wasn't a tall guy.

Speaker 8 (44:03):
Dude, he was a but he's a super fitness fanatic.
I mean he was you know, despite his size, he
was probably the original thick boy. That guy was like
he was like a walking refrigerator, Like you know when
you see him standing there, like listen, you can see
him standing next to Tony Atlas and he is just
as thick, you know, just as probably thicker than Tony Atlas.

(44:24):
But he was very you know, he watched his man's
a very physical competitor, very very intense. I think, you know,
the just his larger than life personality overrode, you know,
overrode his size. At the end of the day, It's
probably why he never got a really big, you know,
a really big run in ww what was successful overwhere
else because WWF was the land of the giants.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
But the.

Speaker 8 (44:47):
You know, sometimes it's well, you know, one of the
things I learned was in wrestling, you don't have to
be a great wrestler to be successful in wrestling. You
have to be serviceable. But it all comes down to personality.
And I don't think there's anybody who probably had more personality.
It was if we didn't have Kevin Sullivan. You don't
get Raven. You don't get Raven, you don't get Bray.

(45:09):
You know, you he blazed the trail that you know
that a lot of people are walking down now. So
it's you know, I popped for Eleving having the the
X on his head on Monday. The you know, it's
super cool. So I have like a ton of fun
Sullivan stories to tell. I know we don't have enough time,

(45:29):
but you know I do have a coup. Okay, okay, sorry.
So he was in town. We were doing a show
in We were doing a show in New York City
for Outlaw Wrestling, and it's like it's it's a Friday
and the show was supposed to start at seven. His
cab was late, so he gets dropped off like eight

(45:53):
blocks away from the building. But it's five o'clock in
New York City, so eight blocks away is like it
can be like a forty five minute drive. He's like,
I'll walk it. I'm like, you can't walk it. You're
seventy two bad back, bad hips, bad knees. So like
we're scrambling to figure out how to get someone to
pick him up. So we're like, well we're gonna Uber again.

(46:14):
What it's like the last uber f it up? So
Bull James jumps in the car and he goes to
get him be on his way there. Kevin calls him, brother, I.

Speaker 15 (46:26):
Don't know what's going on, but I'm standing outside here.
Pop pop pop. The siren's on and out of the
cops are shooting up everybody. They're shooting everybody up in here.
Bo was like it was probably not real. They filled
a lot of Lord Order over there. It's like one
of their favorite spots to film.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
I don't know, brother. The guy ran out.

Speaker 8 (46:50):
And now he's down, just blew everywhere, Like, all right,
go go find someplace to hold up. I'll be there
like ten to fifteen minutes. He finds us He finds
us Olf and so he's wearing so he's wearing like
this orange zoot suit, just just just big orange zoot

(47:13):
suit with a white shirt and he's got like a
Kingo hat. So Bull gets there and he's in the
pizza place and he's like, what happened? Because not the
cop cars everywhere. I told you, brother, I don't know
what the other brother did. But the cops came out
and they lit him up, and I said, I gotta go,

(47:33):
and he said, are you okay? He looks and he's
he's bullets around. He's the holding court because everybody in
the pizza place is sitting around him and Okay, I'm
here with.

Speaker 6 (47:49):
My people's.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
It's amazing.

Speaker 8 (47:53):
He gets up, someone walks his repiece the Bull's car,
and then they go do the show and I'm like, oh,
I just some like it's everyone. When we get bored,
I'll call him, like, brother, that's shooting up the place.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
I love that he's just like in the middle of
a fire fight. That's amazing.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
I love I love Kevin Sullivan. So I I experienced
his you know, his in ring stuff much later, and
the Varsity Club and all the Florida stuff was so good.
But I really liked how even the stuff that didn't
hit there was something to it every time when he
was booking, you know, like say what you will about
the Dungeon to do right, but it was at least

(48:37):
fun and interesting and different.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
You know.

Speaker 7 (48:39):
It's like and and you get into the peaks from
the big Monday Night Wars with like him and Ben Wah.
You know that was say what you will about that
whole thing, but that was so well done and him
and him and Pillman was great. And then you go
into yeah, yeah, and then you go into the stuff

(49:02):
with you know that he did this. He was behind
the stuff with uh An up and wauh DDP and
Macho Man. You've that had Kevin Sullivan all over it.
You know a lot of that raven stuff. He just
every you could you could always tell what Kevin Sullivan,
what his fingerprints were on in that era, right, And
I thought it was so cool even back then. And
then I think the last thing people I really wish

(49:25):
they would they would have played this, and I guess
probably it's too late now, but we talked about it
just last week. The the promo that he did with
with carrying Cross that never made it to television. It's
like four minutes long and it's him like passing the
torch of the devil onto carrying a cross, and it
was so well done. And he is still he was

(49:46):
still such a captivating performer even on there, you know,
even that little amount of time. So yeah, there's Kevin Sullivan.
Can't be replaced.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
He's definitely. He was such a mine.

Speaker 13 (49:59):
I love the Kevin Nash story where he calls Kevin
Sullivan the night after the Mike Tyson WrestleMania and Kevin,
I'm not gonna do his voice I'm not gonna do
it justice, but he says, uh to feel that keV.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
keV goes well, he was like, it's getting cold, about
to hit the iceberg.

Speaker 13 (50:17):
He knew that the the the death of w c
W was on its way after just one match in
the w W in the w W F he he to.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
You it.

Speaker 13 (50:32):
Yeah, I mean, you know, but he was like one
of the very few that knew what this meant for
the company of w CW. And he tried like hell
to let everybody know, but you know, fell on deaf ears. Yeah,
but yeah, rest in peace. Kevin Sullivan awesome, awesome personality
to the point where people actually believe some real heinous

(50:53):
things about him.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
When that real heinous thing happened, we all know.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Yeah, like, yeah, the less said about it, the better.
I don't want to talk.

Speaker 8 (51:01):
You know what, you know, what to give credence to
the humanoids.

Speaker 7 (51:04):
You know, now, what I think we can bring up
with what I think we can bring up is I
love the fact that even that Hogan was selling him
being a devil worshiper in the mid two thousands. Still,
you know, like whenever he'd be asked about Kevin Solomon,
He's like, I don't know about that guy brother, he's
into some weird devil stuff, you know, right, And whether
that was working or Kevin being so good that Hogan

(51:26):
believed it, either way, it's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Remember when he turned into like Doc Hogan though, and
he did the Kevin Sullivan face paint and it was
just like the worst thing he had the sword Shaggie
fifth seventy three with a really good point has awful
like Solivan and.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
Not the why at six, very simple.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Justify yourself.

Speaker 13 (51:46):
He's got stock, he's got he's got a history, and
it was good, like just like this said in Florida.
I mean, my goodness, he was. He was raising hell
down there everywhere. Now I know Shaggy Filth is talking
about the Dungeon of Doom. Let's get real. It was
a to me, that wasn't all. That wasn't his best work.

(52:09):
But I let it slide because it's Kevin Fan Sullivan.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
The only reason why the Dungeon of Doom was even
somewhat serviceable was because of him.

Speaker 7 (52:19):
Yeah, I actually I actually really dug the whole Kevin
Evad Sullivan thing back in the day.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
Oh yeah, I forgot all.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
About Yeah, the the Varsity Club. Come on, guys, come on.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
I I personally my favorite Kevin Sullivan thing, and it's
it's it's a terrible thing, but it's it's uh, it's
still my favorite. Is how Cogan and the Dungeon of Doom.
It's the it's the whole comed here. I've never been
here before.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
Yo, that's not hot.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
It's not hot. I'm like, what do you think that
was scripted?

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Well?

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Do you think like Hogan is just improven?

Speaker 8 (52:55):
Like hero.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
I love.

Speaker 7 (53:01):
I've gone back and watched the three stages, the Triple
Cage match against the Alliance to end Woko Mania about
ten times.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
When Hogan and Savage killed the entire Heel Rosta, it
was all.

Speaker 7 (53:16):
It was the Dungeon of Doom and the four Horsemen
getting together to destroy the Alliance to end Holkamane.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
I remember that the Triple Cage, the Triple Cage long
before Ready to Rumble was a movie. John J. D
nine nine nine. Ass is there besides YouTube? Is they
replaced with CWF content? I don't know, I've never seen
it anywhere.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
Else Continental Florida.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Yeah, maybe maybe two b or just YouTube?

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (53:44):
Oh you know what?

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Yeah, no, places like two B and Ernest Cruise is
staying a little bit in two B. Yeah, so there
you go. John says he's never seen the Dungeon of Doom.
Well that was w CW. Man, So like, if you
want to see that, then you know, I can recommend
a couple of shows.

Speaker 7 (54:00):
Yet, but I gave him, I gave him a rundown yesterday.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Yeah, I don't really recommend watching a lot of a
Dungeon of Doom.

Speaker 16 (54:06):
Because Clubs club Man, Yeah, yeah, is coming to hug
you with the big show you.

Speaker 7 (54:23):
I think, to me, why you gotta watch all that stuff?
Like w c W was so interesting from beginning to end.
There's no skipping going on there. It's even if it's bad,
it's interesting.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
But then you gotta watch. You gotta watch the match
with the Yet with the Yeta hugs, Hugs, Hogan to Death, Hugs, Brother,
the Power of Evil hugs.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
I mean, they did give us the Faces of Fear.
Due did give us faces a fear, which was a
great bag team. It gave us awesome Jimmy Hart coats,
you remember with all that.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Eric Rush and then the Zoniac was my favorite version
of British beachcake.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
Mister Hughes.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Definitely not.

Speaker 7 (55:18):
Mister People forget about him.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
So I got question, you know ming was in there?

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Go ahead, who was the big guy in the Dungeon
of Doom? The King?

Speaker 13 (55:28):
I okaya, like, no, no, no, it was a dude who
just sat on the throne the entire time.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Oh, the guy that was like Sullivan's father. Yeah, I
have who was that? I don't remember, I know it
was somebody. It was like it was like a wor.

Speaker 13 (55:44):
King Curtis.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
All right, okay, thank you.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
I used to just say king Hippo. Uh.

Speaker 7 (55:52):
When I was a kid, I thought it was Dave Sullivan.
When I when I was.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
A kid, it was Dave Sullivan.

Speaker 7 (55:58):
It was like nine, give me a break.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
Oh my god, the rabbit like that was Dave Sliman,
the guy that did the feud with d DP over
the arm wrestling.

Speaker 7 (56:08):
Yeah, he was Evad. He was He was Kevin's brother.
They tagged, they were a tag team and then they
became Evad when he went crazy and he was in
love with Kimberly.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
I think Kimberly. Yeah, they had over the feuded over
the Battle bull Lord of the Ring, which Tony Kahan
resurrected that that concept of the ring being the thing
that people are feuding over. It does, it does, but

(56:39):
the ring, the ring thing doesn't work because you can't
really see the ring, just like the friendship bracelet doesn't work.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
I don't think that's actually a bracelet that's about the
emotional connection.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
But no, I get that. I understand what the bracelet signifies.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
But the friendship, the Baker friendship bracelets, is that what
it is?

Speaker 5 (56:59):
No, it's when when Drew McIntyre took see him punk's
like friendship bracelet that has his dog and his wife's
name on it.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
Yeah, that's a that's a bracelet thing.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
That bracelet is more over than anybody in a W.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
That's the bracelet. Alfrid Canoe I believe said that the
bracelet's now more over than the a W world title.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
But it's a it's a it's a punk rock thing,
you know. It's that the idea that something so small
and most people can mean the world to him and
it makes sense in his head.

Speaker 8 (57:31):
You know, Tom gold got a hold of the number
one dime.

Speaker 7 (57:36):
I do think that I do think that a W
uses rings better than tn A did When ABYSS had
the whole Cogan favoring.

Speaker 8 (57:50):
Brother and what are you put it on your finger?
You're gonna feel my power red and yellow abyss.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (57:58):
And then he fought, he fought Rick Lair to try
to win his ring so he could be the ultimate,
he could have both their power.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
And then and then they gave them. They gave Flair's
ring to Lethal and it turned him into Rick Flair.
What is going on with these Hall of Fame rings
that just contained the essence of the wrestler.

Speaker 7 (58:14):
Maybe that was better than.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Actually I love I love that. Like they turned him
into the rings of power. And we all know, we
all know Vince had the one ring to rule them
all and still probably does everyone.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
Vince got Michael Cole to say the Big Show was
was so big that he could get his whole fist
inside his ring. I mean that was a chip off,
wasn't it, guys? It really was. So he literally get
it showered from the grilled positions to get poor Cole

(58:50):
to to say that that his fingers are so many
you didn't get it your hand. You starting to repeat
this on air.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Like the other problem.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
You know, I know all that, sus grow Well, come on,
Dude's gotta sense a humor.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
The the other problem is when you when you put
on the Hulk Cogan's ring, if you're wearing like camouflage
and you're not a soldier or work boots or you know,
extra lodge pants, he they'll they'll just burn off of you.
So oh my god. You know, somebody somebody brought up
the point that they were like, hey, you know how
punk like left is, like the the unbeaten a W champion, Well,

(59:32):
now is technically Drew McIntyre the unbeaten a W champion.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Right line, your champion, you're real a W champion.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
I'm shocked that Drew McIntire hasn't tweeted that yet because
his Twitter is just so savage.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
He might have been deleted it. We just didn't see it.
He does that all the time.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
That guy. Well, yeah, because he tweets things at triple
edges like what I think.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
I think he does it more as like just to
mess with people at this point, because there's been some
that got left on that I was like, how long
the world is that being left on? When this got deleted?
And I think he just does it sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
You know, the Jack Perry picture.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
We will need to tweet him that he's the linear
everyone listening with exit you insist I'm gonna tweet at him,
but he's the linear gym to there you go, Thank you, Kevin.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Alright, what else we got today? Oh? So are you
guys ready for tomorrow for the major announcement. I mean
we had a major announcement earlier tonight, but you know
now we're gonna have another major announcement from Tony Khan
instead of Tony Khan on Dynamite tomorrow. Good lord, you
know what I said on Twitter. I I enjoy his
new stuff, but sometimes it's just nice to hear the

(01:00:45):
classics played the greatest the Tony Khan greatest hits. This
is his free bird. It's just how many times are
they going to go to that with that same graphic.
It's gotta be a troll at this point, right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
Oh yeah, no, no, it's they're not true. But we
just said ben inside the Sons of Humor tell me doesn't.
Oh no, there's no humor and anythin they do, so
definitely announcements.

Speaker 13 (01:01:14):
The announcement's gonna be they they now serve catch up
with their fries at the concession stands.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Well, what they weren't. If they weren't already, than shame
on them. But the the problem is that whatever he
makes one of these major announcements, there's always something bigger
that people are expecting him to announce that he doesn't announce.
And right now you announced this major announcement, everyone assumes
this is the TV deal you're gonna talk about where

(01:01:41):
you're gonna end up. And I don't think it's the
TV deal because that's not how TV deals are announced.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Well, no, and it's announcement.

Speaker 13 (01:01:50):
If it's not just one, it's gonna be many and
it's going to be looming large in the next few hours.

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
I think the same thing around upfront. Remember they were
saying they have big anounts with there's big announcements, and
everyone thought it was going to be the deal because
of Upfronts and even bright Dave Dave Meltzer actually said
it was going to be the deal because of Upfronts
and uh no, it was collision and see him punk
but nothing about the deal that was a year ago.
By the way, that's how long talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
But Collision actually is a big deal, like a big
announcement like but sometimes he'll be like big announcement and
he'll be like all in tickets are going on sale
on someday, like it's he always misses with these, right.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
And that's that's just not been a bad PR. That's
bad PR. So the reason we when I was at
the UBC for fifteen years is okay, we occasionally had
that we'd have a big announcement. This is really long
time ago. And everybody for they've signed fatal or Lemonenko,
and we user hadn't never never did sign him and

(01:02:57):
never was going to sign him. You know, DA needed
everybody could to get the Russian guys who are in
charge of his career, you know, to be sensible, and
they couldn't do a deal. But to kind of that's
just about PR. What you do is you call a
couple of trusted journalists and you say, hey, it's this

(01:03:20):
so you can write your story as soon as we
go live at you know, seventeen minutes past seven. You
can have your story published here some quotes, but hold
that embargo. It here is three possibilities. We want you
to say. It could be. That's how you do PR.
That's how you limit expectations. You kind of you move
the conversation away from what it's not. That's what you're

(01:03:43):
just And this isn't like groundbreaking shit. This is how
PR's work for like at least one hundred years. At
least one hundred years. This is what you do. But
from what I heard, like I a friend of mine
was talking to aw about it's like this is going
back almost pandemic after the pandemic, and she was interested

(01:04:04):
in applying for a job there. And I said, like,
she used to work for me at the UFC and
the PR team. She was like, what do you think?
I was like, I don't think they have a PR team.
It's like they don't have a PR so they have
no one who does that. I don't know if that's change.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
If they do, it's terrible. If they do.

Speaker 7 (01:04:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's like it's like a Mary Huber, isn't it.
Isn't she the one that's in charge.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
Of all that stuff?

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
Now she does heels, I know, but I thought that
that wasn't like that. He's no, heels is nothing. Heels
takes five subjects to do a week. No, I think
she does like social media and PR and stuff for.

Speaker 6 (01:04:43):
Yeah, so you don't have so well one social media
is that that that's like a term from fifteen years
ago that or ten years ago. Beware anyone who says
they have a social media manager. They just announced them.
They don't know what the fuck they're doing. And if
you have, if you combine MET with social media and PR,
they and you don't have a good YouTube strategy, Facebook strategy,
Twitter strategy, Instagram TG TikTok strategy, and you're sure as

(01:05:06):
hell don't have a real public relations strategy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
And it's bad.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
I learned something tonight about them. I've learned some of
that that is that is I wouldn't say half the battle,
but that's like twenty of why people are just dumping on. Yes,
it's bad, but there's ways to put your thumb on
the scales and they're not doing that.

Speaker 13 (01:05:28):
Do you believe that, well, obviously you would know that's
back end work, correct, Like that's stuff that's done behind
the scenes. You know it's never going to be publicized
or or talked about, but it's stuff that has to
be Yeah, it's stuff that needs to happen in the
back end.

Speaker 6 (01:05:47):
Exactly. Yeah, I mean, look, you one thing like and look,
the UFC doesn't run pr L like that, Like you
did when when I was there. But what you need
to have a dialogue relationship with the people who cover you.
You need to have some sort of credibility, Like one
is I never lied to anyone like like, that's why
I'm still friends with you know, Aaron Hawane, Luke Thomas,

(01:06:10):
you know Snati, Mark Romandi who's who just left the
UFC w e B in the ESPN, still friends with
him because one because I've never lied to them. You know,
the worst I ever said to him is I can't
obviously I know I can't tell you Mark, or I
can't tell you right occasionally did I'll be able to

(01:06:30):
say if you write what you just told me, you're
gonna write, you're going to be wrong. So don't make
it feels. And I never lied to them, and then
you can look, it's all about who you know and
what you know as well as well as what you
know you've got. Aw should there's no they're small and
this is one of the things that they should be doing.

(01:06:51):
WW does those you know those press conferences after the
pay per views they do or the ples and you
know it, it's very it's not a real news conference.
It's very it's great TV. It's great TV's it's great
for coverage, but that's what the gain, excite exactly what
they want out of it. A w could could going

(01:07:15):
to do what the WWE aren't going to do. Let's
have real real relationships with the media, the press, you know,
instead of just denigrating them like oh, you're just a hater,
engage with them. Engage with them. Yeah, that's look at
w UFC had some terrible times with like with coverage

(01:07:36):
and what you do, You've got to be in the conversation.
If you're going to change the conversation, you've got to
at least join it. That's what I would do if
I was Tony Kahan, I'd hire Really is a little
bit too old now, but Jim burn who used to
be head of PR for w E, that's what they
did when they metamor from being an absolute joke, but
nobody wanted to cover them other than just the sneering

(01:07:59):
kind of way. Jim Byrne was the guy who had
real journalists and saying, hey, we're not we're not saying
cover as a sport in covernors as an American institution,
as something that a lot of your readers are interested
in Now that's what you should cover as but yeah,
here on the show. But yeah, it's just it's it's

(01:08:19):
such an easy when the adel you could be going for,
But to have an affected PR person, you've got to
give a degree of autonomy to your PR shop And
that again, it just comes back to Tony carn I
don't I can't see him being told, Hey, we're gonna
release this bit of information ahead of the show. I
just I just can't see that working.

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
So are you saying that you think that it's going
to be the TV deal?

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
No, it's not gonna be the TV deal, definitely not.
I can't. I can't imagine. So, I mean I think
it could be, you know, because that's not how you
would do it, and they do a lot of things
that aren't the best practices.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
But like wouldn't WB, Like wouldn't WB Do you want
to announce the TV deal themselves in a press release
to their right you know, to their to their stockholders
and investors and all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:09:13):
Well, you'd want to do it. In the trades. What
you want to do is, look, it's important to it's
important to tell your audience. Yeah, but your audience when
when do your audience need to know, Well, if you're
staying in the same place, they don't need to know
because they's ever going to be a change. So your
audience don't If you're moving, you need to tell them.
If you're moving too, you know, if they're moving to

(01:09:33):
Netflix and you move into ESPN plus, you got to
tell them as soon as you can. Well, who do
they need to speak to now, Well, they need to
speak to the serious press who are now doing stories
like like today and you know, I think it was
I don't know if it was Vanity Fair or someone
like that. Forbes was saying, basically, they're in trouble those

(01:09:54):
they need to change those people's opinion. And one of
the ways you do it is like, hey, actually, would
you like to a story on this? You need to
go to the You need to go to the trade magazines,
the Hollywood magazines, because who reads that. People who might
want to advertise Snickers, you know, Eminem's whatever else it is.

(01:10:15):
You go in the trades because you look at what
you need to who you need to get this message to.
It's two or three hundred, Yeah, exactly, you need to
get it to the two or three hundred people in
the country who are making decisions decisions where they're going
to spend the money for the rest of the year
and the lead up to Christmas. That's who you need

(01:10:36):
to get this too. Like, oh, warn has signed this
huge new deal with They're like, oh wow, it's the
number one show and you're dressed up as best you can.
That's what they need to be done if they do
and just announce it to keep the Marks happy who
watch the show every week. I don't want to tell you,
I don't if they do that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
We all know the way Tony thinks because he voices
his every thought allowed and you know that it's killing
him that he hasn't been able to announce the deal
and that people online the saying mean things about it,
like that's the kind of thing that like that would
not even be a blip to like a Nick con.
You know, he didn't care about that. But like, I
have a question. I have a question.

Speaker 13 (01:11:19):
How soon do these networks like start scheduling their next
wave of programming, Like we're we're five months away from
the new year, yeah, ae w B, like in a
slotted time slot by now with TPS.

Speaker 6 (01:11:38):
Yes they should. Yeah, it's it's Look, it's not unheard of,
it's really not. But for both for both sides, they
were they would have preferred to reach the deal by now, right,
you know, they really would. You know, look, look, look
how far away the UFC announces its deals. Look how
far away? Uh w do he announced the net Flake steal?

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:12:01):
And you mentioned earlier you also said that, you know,
they could still get a deal, but they could still
be canceled at the same time, like there could be
a clause in the contract that says, like we can
we can boot you off the air and start, you know,
doing episodes of family Guy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
You know, yeah, I doubt I mean in this day
and age that those are those are rarer, you know,
they really are.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
The exclusivity period is over, so he could.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
Yeah, exactly exclusive that. The exclusivity period is the period
where both sides would have expected a year two years
ago to have reached the deal during that time.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
Two years they usually do that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
Wow, oh yeah two years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean they could pull it out, they really could. They can,
they really could. But like they're at a week the
week and now the week there a week a hand
now that he had a year ago a week a hand.
Now that we have last week a week on the
week before.

Speaker 7 (01:13:01):
So let's have some fun. What is the announcement? What
do you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
Think Mercedes Monet Reality show would not be shocked.

Speaker 7 (01:13:12):
I wouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 13 (01:13:14):
Something having to do with Meet Mayhem copyrighted. No, he copyrighted.
He got there last week and that's the same that's
the same avenue that he took with Collision. Remember we
spelled collision wrong and had the retrade market.

Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
But yeah, I mean are thinking I'm thinking it's something
a w R o H related.

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
Probably Honestly, I could say they're going to rebrand to
a w R o H so that they can get
R o H on TV, like in place of like
Rampage or something.

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
Yeah, well I think it might be the other way though.
I think it might be so they can put a
W content on Honor Club and then kind of boost
that because the same company.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
When I mean they could they could just he could
just put aw stuff on Honor Club to begin with. Anyway,
he just changed the name of on a club.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Yeah, you don't need to change the name, just just
added bonus. Yeah, a T and a buying a ring
of honor.

Speaker 7 (01:14:10):
Well, I just think I just think that he was
he was holding on to that stuff because he was
hoping he was going to get a streaming deal with
Max and I think it's kind of not going to
happen now, so this would be the way to kind
of introduce that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Oh but but this they were uploading it in France.

Speaker 7 (01:14:26):
And I can watch I can watch raw from a
month ago on direct TV. So does that mean that
they have a deal with AT and T now? Is
that what we're going to say?

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
With the satellites themselves? The same satellites?

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
What what is the point honestly, guys, what is the
point in Ring of Honor? Right now?

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
Seriously, it's a Tony con vanity project. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Wrests paid.

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
Well, I'm not saying what that's that's that's cool. You know,
there's more wrestlers have have gainful employee employee the But
why why do you don't need a feed a league?
You know when I think they did it just because well,
w wes NXT we have a Ring of Honor, you
have two shows, we have two shows, like you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
Ready for this?

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
The thing is, don't they don't treat it as a
Feeder League. They don't treat it as a feed a league.
They just treat it as it's its own company. Like
to them n X. They hate the concept of NXT because,
you know, they believe that you already know everything you
have to know, you don't have to learn anything. So
you look at Ring of Honor. Tony Kahan liked Ring
of Honor. He was a fan of Ring of Honor,
and ww WE wanted Ring of Honor because WWE wanted

(01:15:38):
the video library and they wanted, you know, maybe more
content for the network at the time, and that's why
he bought that on an impulse. Kevin, what do you think.

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
Before the if the pandemic doesn't happen, it's pretty likely
that w b scoops up Ring of Honor because they
wanted it for the travel infrastructure for NXT and the
video library. So it's sitting there and Tony pays a
god awful amount of money for it that it shouldn't
have gotten, just because he could because he wanted to
say he had Ring of Honor. And I said Tom, like, well,

(01:16:10):
what did you really get out of it? Like again,
and I I and everybody gets bad when I say it,
But I'm like, if rig of Honor was as popular
as Riga Honor fans said it was, rig of Honor
would have never been in trouble. If a great match
happened at Ring of Honor, it was the equivalent of
a tree falls in the woods.

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
And I'm telling you because I saw it, Honor Club
isn't worth shit. Their YouTube and their Facebook businesses weren't
even a fraction of what TNA's were because t and A. Yeah,
Scott de Moore asked me to take a look at
it and asked me to tell me, hey, come, what
is it worth?

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Fine?

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
What's it? What would you pay for it? I was like,
with mine money, fucking nothing like with your money. You know,
we're we're talking like, I mean, it's like low six
figures and he goes, well, they're talking about that. I
was like, you, look, if if we wants that they
can buy, If Tony Carhn really wants that he can buy,
and that that's what ended up happening. But there was
nothing there. I can't remember I would tell you the

(01:17:09):
numbers because I'm not under an NDA. I can't remember.
But on a club it was it was nothing like
as big as Impact plus with the Ultimate Insiders. It
was nothing like as big, Like nothing like as big.
The database was like hadn't been kept properly, like it

(01:17:29):
had been completely mismanaged. You know. I'm like, Scott, you
had already picked up you know, no more, you know
it already picked up like some of the top guys
from Ringham on. It was like, We've already got what
you want. I was like, could I use more matches
for our YouTube business?

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
Do I need these? Now? I've got a twenty year library,
you know, from from from Hulk, from hul K Hogan
all the way, you know, for aj Styles through you know,
the Josh Alexandria. It's like, don't need it. It's like,
there's there's nothing to buy here that we really need
to buy. Unless it's a fire sell. Done, buy it
in the fire sales. I don't try and out bid
Tony carn and w because there's fucking nothing there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Well, I think that, like the reports that Tony paid
like forty million dollars for it, I don't know if
I believe that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:16):
No, no, no, there's no way, there's no way unless
unless they unless they needed to get rid of forty million,
and you know, it was cheaper to do that and
buy the gasoline to get the fire started. There's that
is absolutely wrong. That is absolutely wrong. I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
I thought that sounded like that sounded like it wasn't,
you know, accurate. Cornette even said that there was no
way that was true.

Speaker 6 (01:18:40):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
Yeah, I can't imagine he's that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Not even not even an eighth if he paid five million,
like somebody his dad needs to send him back to
his room for a month or some time. I don't
know even if, I mean, it was not worth anything.
It's just not worth it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
When you mean when you took a look at it,
what would you say it would have been worth of
a sale was going to happen?

Speaker 6 (01:19:02):
Like one hundred and fifty thousand? Maybe?

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
That yeah, yeah, because I mean because a lot of
the lot of the contracts for the wrestlers, they weren't contracts.
It wasn't like when UFC bought Pride where they got
all these different like okay, a better example when UFC
bought a company called WFA that only did a handful
of shows, like a handful, Yeah, but they had Quintin

(01:19:26):
Rampage Jackson under the contract. So they're like we'll just
buy the company so we can't rampage. And so that's
what they did, you know, so they whatever they paid
this work because rampage. You know it all the ton
of merched ton of tickets, ton of pay per views
and was a big star for us for them, ring
Ivonnor from from the best I can remember. The top

(01:19:47):
people weren't under a real contract. You know, it was
pro wrestling contract. You know it's right, you know that
they could appear anyway. You know a lot of TNA
wrestlers are not under a contract. Like most people listening
to this podcast would understand the contractors. It's like you
can't do anything else, you can't go anywhere else. It
doesn't work that you know below w E a w

(01:20:10):
L level, it just doesn't work like that. So I
kept saying, Scott, what are you buying? Well, the library,
it's like the library socks. It's like they're on half
of it. Like it looks like he had someone standing
next to the room with a fucking big lighter to
light it. That's like it's terrible, you know, I was
like this, it's amateurs ship.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
I would like to point out that the the no
F bombs mandate on tuning toown wrestling was the idea
and decree of Evans. A.

Speaker 6 (01:20:40):
Well, that's that's the shoot on Evans again.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
The character I believe the quote was mav every time
you do a do you do an F bomb, you're
costing yourself money.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
I love the only British act that you can do
this kind of like kind of like just north of
the River Thames accent.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Here's the thing I can do. Terrible, I can I
can do a British accent. I can't do your British
accent for some reason. So many times it's like this
weird amalgam.

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
No, that's that's what everyone tells me. Everyone tells me
is like this, there's a horrible garble like someone like
mid Atlantic. There's nothing. I've been to the mid Atlantic.
When I fly, there's nothing there, like nobody talks like that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
You do, but this is amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
Look I did before I started dropping, and I did.
We're very deep into the past the hour mark.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
So it's okay, Yeah, we're fine, we're fine. Let him fly.
Yeah no, because you'll never stop what I said.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
It's like, don't get don't get Apollo going because he
starts dropping the real bombs, you know, well, yeah, grenades,
Like he just goes hage bombs and I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
The F bomb for Kevin apollow is the gateway curse
because if he starts f bombing, the sea bomb and
the T bomb are not too far behind. So that's
when we have the problem.

Speaker 8 (01:22:12):
But I bomb really that bad?

Speaker 5 (01:22:16):
To YouTube?

Speaker 6 (01:22:17):
Yes, yes, I was. I was at YouTube the other
the other month and they had this whole presentation on it,
and I mean, I mean I knew I was at
the right place because I got there in the men's
bathroom they had they had tampoon, so I knew it
was Google. But they did a whole speech and they said,
you can say funk. You can say that now obviously

(01:22:39):
you can't say the N word or the sea word.
I'm thinking, what raises the word?

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
As a guy raised in the UK, I mean that
word flows like wine. It's you know, my.

Speaker 8 (01:22:56):
One year of rugby between the South Africans and the Irish,
it was like every third word.

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
I discovered rugby during the Olympics this year and I
was like, are there rules? Like, what is happening right now?
I had no idea what was going on, but no
that's like British.

Speaker 6 (01:23:19):
If you're British, you really want to offend American, just
just refer to American football as rugby for pussies. I'm just.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I called it. I called it that. While we were watching.
I was sitting there next to my father and was
sitting there. One of my father is a big football guy,
and I can't stand American football, and so like we're
sitting there and we're watching it, and I was like, huh,
so American football players are just big pussies. Huh, because
these guys aren't wearing nothing. They're wearing no helmets, they're
wearing no bads. They're just dive bombing each other. My god,

(01:23:52):
it was just it was just like a fight with
a ball, Like that's what I watched.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:23:57):
It was just like ten guys fighting each other while
a ball like rolled around somewhere and in the vicinity
of them. It was amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:24:06):
So I had a call over day from the You
ever heard of a spook from India called Kabudi?

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
Yes, m M.

Speaker 6 (01:24:15):
It's the now, it's the greatest. So it's basically like
tag or tick where you've got a gang of So
it's basically at this, you've got to And I come
from an area of the UK where we have a
lot of Bangladesh, Pakistan and Indian immigrants, so they would
play this on the playyard like when we were like seven.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
So.

Speaker 6 (01:24:37):
I think it's like nine on it side. I'm not
quite sure about that. But one guy goes forward and
say it's me. I've got to tag one member of
your team, and then whole ass back to the line
one side. As soon as I touched somebody, like even
like a finger, then everybody just piles on and fights,
and they're all trying to get me. So I'm basically

(01:24:59):
the I'm like the player, the quarterback and the ball
at the same time, and everyone's trying to kick the
ship out of me before I get back.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
And then my guys just run forward and start and
they just punching, kicky, They're slamming, they're doing shoke holds.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 6 (01:25:15):
It's crazy enough. But the whole time that I'm coming forward,
I can't just wander up and just tag. I've got
to be holding my breath. Well, how do they know
you're holding your breath? Because you know you've got nostrils.
You just go yeah, I'm was holding my breath. You know,
you have to go. You have to say the word
kabuddy over and over, like cabuddy, cabuddy, cabuddy, cabuddy, cabuddy.
And some of these dudes can say that fucking word

(01:25:37):
for like three four minutes straight and then they tag it.
And so I was telling these guys like, yeah, we're finished,
really going to take off in the US. I'm like,
I'm not sure it will, but I want to be
involved in. But I want to This is so nuts.
I want to be involved in this.

Speaker 5 (01:25:55):
Aren't like, are you sure? This isn't like the Jiggly
Ball episode of Scrubs where they were like, hey, make this.
I believe that we invented this spot. It's a really
big deal in India. No tell the We've invented this
sport and it's just we get the whale on them
for like twenty minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:26:12):
Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
It is one.

Speaker 7 (01:26:15):
This one's it's the extreme version of Duck dug goose
in India.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
There was something there was years younger, I watched more
of this Olympics than I've ever watched of any Olympics
that has ever happened. Because missus Movie Monster was like
enamored with it, and I discovered a few things. I
really like surfing, like not to do, like to watch.

(01:26:42):
It's fascinating to watch. I didn't know pickleball was was
like a real thing because I thought my gym teacher
made it up. And uh. I also realized that the
Olympics are pretty boring most of the time.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
But what that's why?

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
Exactly how about this dynamites? Exactly would the Olympics be
more exciting if professional wrestling were a part of it?
Because that is that is a stupid idea that many
people have floated, and it's maybe the dumbest thing. It's
the dumbest things. Look if that breakdancing could happen in
the Olympics, literally anything can happen in the Olympics, but

(01:27:26):
professional wrestling should not be in the Olympics. The Olympics,
I know, we got super chats building up. I'm gonna
get to them in a little bit ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:27:34):
If the Olympics can ruin break dancing, they can ruin anything.

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
And let's be real, let's be real, the Australians ruined breakdancing.

Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
People.

Speaker 7 (01:27:44):
I wanted to get into this this week because we've
said at one hundred times and we always just assumed
people understood why it was a bad idea. But I
keep seeing people acting like it's a good idea and
it's a It would ruin wrestling. It would ruin professional
wrestling because it would become all of out, Okay, let's
figure out what the minimum and we have to do
to get this score is, and then we'll go one
score higher. And that's what professional wrestling would be. It

(01:28:07):
would be perfecting a routine over and over again. These guys.
It would it would ruin and then what would happen
Like you'd have people going to w W.

Speaker 6 (01:28:15):
Was not any different from Brett Hawk's career.

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
I like you even more now because that is.

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
Or Rick flaars to be faced.

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
That Evans, he looked, he got bold head Like Bill Goldberg.

Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
Like, we're gonna do a T shirt. We go to
do a T shirt with Bratton saying Merry Christmas. Lesson Bill.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
I saw meme the other day and it was The
Simpsons and it was it was Lisa running into the
room going, mom, Dad, Brett's dead and they're like what
and then it sits up. It's bought. But he's got
the Brett Hart on The Simpsons head on him, and
he goes dead serious about the fact that Bill Goldberg sucks.

Speaker 7 (01:29:14):
Yeah, it goes into the territory of at some point
it's just gonna turn into we're gonna have a wrestling
match and we're gonna have three judges on the I
side of the ring. They're gonna hold up scorecards at
the end. That's so good.

Speaker 6 (01:29:24):
And didn't wasn't Bishop working on something like this, not
asking he was doing something like this Matt Rats. No, No,
I forgot about Matt Rats.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
Yeah, so did everyone else.

Speaker 7 (01:29:39):
It was Canadian, right, it was a Canadian thing.

Speaker 6 (01:29:42):
Okay, sucking bad. I hope, I hope he doesn't hear
this unless I'm gonna make it wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
But he doesn't listen to a show.

Speaker 6 (01:29:52):
It's a big fan and he and he just he
just he just like doom watches like The Death of
a w is this whole time line on YOUTUBEID But
he had an idea that we're going to do essentially
the Olympics of this Olympic idea where everybody knows it's
a work and you have young, young talent, you know,

(01:30:14):
doing the matches, and you you basically, you know, you
judge it like art or like fucking know, rhythmic gymnastics
and stuff. You know, obviously you know you've never heard
of it. It didn't take off. But the same idea was both.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
Teddy Hart was yeah, of course, Teddy.

Speaker 7 (01:30:33):
I totally remember that. That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
What would be who would be the judges would be
like Jim Cornette and Dutch Mantel.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
Now, I'd watch the hell out of it. I would
watch the hell out of that that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
You even said that, Jim Cornette and Dutch, Oh my goodness,
Like maybe like get Schultz in there as like the
tiebreaker or like or as the referee, like Bigby Rude.

Speaker 7 (01:31:02):
This was this was mid two thousands. This was before
Eric went to t NA. This was like right after
the whole right, This was before the Hogan midget thing,
remember that, because that was no.

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
No he he no he, I'm allowed, I'm allowed to
wrn swoggle. Gave me a pass, Hogan, Hogan and Bischoff.

Speaker 7 (01:31:20):
We're doing a micro wrestling organization. There were the reality
show years before this recent one, and but this was
before this was around that time, so the judges would
end up being probably honestly, like Disco and Burnout and
all those guys that just kind of circled around Bischoff
at that time, you know, all the.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
X W c W guys.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
M Oh my goodness that I just I could not
see it as I mean I could see lightsaber combat
being an Olympic sport before.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Oh my god, no, the choreograph.

Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
Yes, why we are at the point guys when the
Olympics is like eight different events and like you got
your athletics and your real sports and then you got
all this weird ship. I'm like, the weirder, the better,
fucking onegon fucking dog skateboarding, bring it in, bring it
in four years the weird. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
My favorite was the Australian girl like gyrating on the
ground and somebody over and on Twitter they put like
I gave you the chance of aiding me willingly, but
you have elected the way of pain, the gandorphin saramon Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:32:29):
I just like people saying that she was Aubrey Edwards.
That was my favorite, the show that she was Aubrey Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
I mean, what like did that did that? Lady? She
was the best breakdancer in all of Australia. I actually
do buy that.

Speaker 6 (01:32:43):
Actually, I've been to Australia. That really is how the
girls stands now.

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
What I mean that was? But professional wrestling, I I
can't see it. I can't see it ever being an
Olympic sport.

Speaker 6 (01:32:58):
We've got a will listen to exist. Jim start off
like that and never will will this to existence.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
Somebody in, somebody, somebody in the chat said pro wrestling
no powers slap in the twenty twenty eight Olympics. Yes,
I'd watch the hell out of that.

Speaker 7 (01:33:09):
But I watch that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
Yeah, I'd watch the hell out of that, just watching
like like like feuding countries, like athletes getting up there
to slap each other in the face, like, oh man,
I'm bad for that. Oh the all right, so we
got some we got a few super chats that were
a little backed up on. So let me get to
those real fast. Andre Adams for one major announcement, aw

(01:33:33):
has potting them with aol and Kodak. I could see
it rupen half of two dollars. He's going to announce
the Mercedes Monet podcast. Uh John j D nine nine
nine n XT going to c W kicking off in
All State Arena. That's not bad. Well, I guess for

(01:33:54):
that first show in Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:33:55):
Yeah, the first two shows are on the first two
shows are on the road. They're doing Chicago for the
first one, in Saint Louis for the second one. The
first one has punked, the second one has Orton, so
very cool.

Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
Uh Kenneth Douglas for five dollars. Tony's big announcement is
his crush finally spoke to him and he got a hug.
Always enjoy the show, keep keep up with the great
work everyone. His crush is Britt Baker. So that by
the way, well, I mean we all we all know,
we all know. Did you see real quick what Conan

(01:34:26):
the bomb Conan dropped the other day? What he said
that the reason Cody left ae W was because Brandy
got into it with Britt Baker and Tony sided with Britt.
That would that would actually line up with Cody's vague
like like this was a this was a personal issue

(01:34:46):
that I'm not going to discuss, like somebody messing with
his wife. I could totally see that being an issue,
because look, we can all say everything about Cody. You know,
Cody didn't like Omega, Cody didn't like the Bucks. You know,
they were the separate lock of rooms and the separate
booking meetings and all that other stuff. But Cody would
have kept doing the Cody thing for as long as

(01:35:07):
he was able to do. I don't know. Conan said that,
and I kind of believed.

Speaker 13 (01:35:12):
It sounds like a final straw type of thing, But
I'm sure Cody was hip to understanding like this isn't
the way things need to be going.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Probably one day.

Speaker 13 (01:35:23):
That that incident happened, he was just like it, I'm
out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
See.

Speaker 7 (01:35:28):
I always thought this thing because I always heard there
was something with Brandy, and I always kind of I
always kind of assumed it was the all of her
initiatives were kind of being taken away from her. She
had the she had the sensory initiative that she was
doing that went away. She had heels that was given
to someone else. She had, you know, it's like all
this stuff that she was involved in. She was in
charge of community outreach, and then Mark Henry got hired

(01:35:50):
and kind of got pushed into there, so everything she
was involved in slowly got taken away. And that would
really line up with the idea that britt Baker was
in Tony's eer saying.

Speaker 13 (01:35:58):
That she should know, but was she there when it
was taken away? Like the heels, the the transition from
her to Huber happened after Brandy left, and I just heard, you.

Speaker 7 (01:36:11):
Know, I I don't. I don't even mean necessarily it
was taken away from her. I mean that they stopped
carrying about heels. You remember how big heels was when
at first started, how how much they were pushing it,
and then like two weeks later, they just completely dropped
it and never mentioned it again, which was the same
thing they did with the with.

Speaker 13 (01:36:27):
Is that because the blue hair started crying, that's because
that's what it is now, it's a bunch of blue
head people.

Speaker 7 (01:36:32):
And then the same thing happened with their I remember
when a W started, they were talking about having safe
rooms at their live shows for kids on the spectrum,
and they were gonna have sensory safe entrances and all
kinds of stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:36:46):
You well, I would say before that actually, because like
you're right, when they started running, I had a long
conversation with somebody about that because at my very first
show there was a kid who really suffered from sensory issues,

(01:37:08):
and I was like wow, and I just remembered like
when my like one of the very last batches I had,
I think my daughter was probably only like two or something,
and you know, the sound of the sound of the
ring like scared the crap out of her, so she,
you know, didn't stay. And I actually realized thought that
was one of the few things that they were doing

(01:37:30):
that I thought was actually a phenomenal idea because there's
so many kids have sensory issues now, you know. Yeah,
but everything else was just sheer rubbish. That that that
that hurts the inside of my soul.

Speaker 7 (01:37:41):
Yeah, Max, when we would we when we took him
to a monster truck thing, freaked out. He couldn't He
couldn't stay five minutes. We bought him headphones and everything
to put him on. He still couldn't do it. It's
just too much. When I took him to the WWE show,
he was far more calm. They didn't because it was
like it's almost like he was ready for it. Does
that make sense, Like there were booms and stuff. But

(01:38:03):
ww does a good job of preparing you and kind
of moving into it where it's not a sudden rush.
And that's one thing that really excited me about aw
at first, and yeah, they just never panned out. They
never went through with it, you know. So uh yeah,
So I think that stuff because that sounds like something
that Brandy was passionate about and it just completely went away.

(01:38:24):
So that's what I think. I think it's more about
that than her on screen character. I think they would
have let her stay on screen do whatever she wanted
as long as Cody was on there making them getting
them ratings, you know. But I think it's more about
the backstage stuff that Cody got upset about.

Speaker 5 (01:38:39):
Probably probably, But again, is this dentist worth it? She
has now cost you, you know, she cost you your
biggest star who is now the biggest star in the world.
Like that should have been it right there. But Tony
has got this weird obsession with her. I guess she
was the first woman that he hired, will be the

(01:39:00):
last one there when the lights go out?

Speaker 6 (01:39:03):
It is what about what about sat with Sasha Bank?
Sound sorry, Mercedes money? Like if them two start, I mean,
what's Tony gonna do there?

Speaker 5 (01:39:14):
I have no idea that's gonna be. He's got he's
playing with fire putting them together right now?

Speaker 6 (01:39:19):
If I'm Mercedes man number one, I'd hire an acting coach.
Number two. What I'd do is I would pick a
fight with Britt Bakers so I could get my ass
sent home and collect those checks.

Speaker 8 (01:39:30):
If I really think he's.

Speaker 6 (01:39:32):
Gonna pick one of the other, I do that, Like
you know, this ain't working. I'll get myself sent home
for six months. They still have to pay me how much?

Speaker 5 (01:39:41):
How much to see him punks go ahead, keV.

Speaker 6 (01:39:43):
I agree with that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:44):
I bet Mercedes would be punked because you gotta listen,
even though you know we kind of laugh at it,
but in reality, Britt is as much of a pillar
free e w as all the other pillars that he abandoned.
So yeah, well she's she kind of holds I got
listened this time last year. What she was probably eighty

(01:40:07):
two percent of any female promo cut until she disappeared.
So yeah, you know, like you know, you know where
the value lies. That's honestly to me. It's why it's
kind of baffling that when she was suspended one you
did in the middle of one of your only few
hot things happening on the show. I don't know why
you uh, why you leave money on the table, but

(01:40:29):
you know the fact that she was suspended. I felt
was you know, I kind of called me by surprise
because you know she does hold that place of reverence.
But you know it's at the end of the day,
like we thought, you're spending allegedly five million dollars on Mercedes,
and you know what she's giving you is a terrible
promo off the terrible promo. And every time she opens
her mouth, her stock diminishes, her stock falls, her stock

(01:40:53):
falls faster than Disney every time I go opens up
his mouth. So I don't know what you do with Mercedes.
But and she's already told you that, you know, this
is just a pit stop before she goes back.

Speaker 6 (01:41:04):
To the WWE.

Speaker 8 (01:41:06):
So is this really worth the investment? You know, I
would back the dentist at all, honestly if there was
going to be an issue, because at least you know
where the loyalty is.

Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
But I mean, look, he already he already served up
what he already threw one pillar on the on the
sacrificial pile for Mercedes by taking Sammy out, and now
Sammy's slumming it in r O. H. Well, he shall
remain as long as as long as she's there.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
Incredible incredible.

Speaker 6 (01:41:35):
What do they what did they do?

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Then?

Speaker 6 (01:41:36):
I mean, I'd love to t watch you. One thing
I've suggested that Eric Bischoff talks about is like, because
now he's he's had like the lunatics run the asylum
as well, Like when you've got this level of toxicity
where no one will get I mean, one one thing
he should do is this idea of suspending people. You're
a TV show, You're not a sport. You don't suspend.

(01:41:58):
If Jennifer Aniston were was told Courtney Cox to fuck off,
you don't suspend Jennifer Anson from an episode of Friends.
It just doesn't make any sense. You're playing characters. You've
got to punish it with either a fine if your
contract allows it, if not your next contract she'll allow
you to find them, or to you give them community service.

(01:42:18):
Say hey, guess what, You're going to go to the
Boys and Girls Club before every show for the next month.
You know, there you go the car, you pick you
up in the lobby at six. That's how you punish them,
you don't, I mean, that's yeah, you're right. The hottest
thing they had, one of the hottest things on TV
was those two I think it's one of the hottest
matches they've got. And finally, I mean, look, I don't

(01:42:41):
think she's she's delivering because she doesn't do promos very well.
But Mercedes is a natural bitchy heel. She knows exactly
what she's doing when she plays that character. She just
I know they hired somebody allegedly on high six figures,
you know, to write script for her. While you're over
rip her, she's got to say just a few little

(01:43:03):
bitchy things, like it's beneath her to talk.

Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
A publicist or a hype person.

Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
I've been saying exactly a publicist. And she like lean
over and say, tell these fans to shut up and
I'm not going to talk at all. And that's all
they say, and they keep going, you walk do that
gimmick like for christis you spend all this money on her?
Help her, don't you know? And if if she she's
the problem saying I want to do this, say no,

(01:43:31):
you can't, I'm helping you here.

Speaker 8 (01:43:33):
Well they can't.

Speaker 5 (01:43:34):
They can't say that. She's confirmed that she has creative
control on her contract, but they can't tell her no.
And trying to help her.

Speaker 8 (01:43:40):
The biggest part of it is Tony doesn't have the
balls to do it. Yeah, that I could very easily
see Bischoff getting in someone's face. You know, you got
creative control, but you're killing TV right now. So this
is how this is going to work. We're going to
help you get better.

Speaker 6 (01:43:57):
This nice way to do it. You know, we've all
dealt with people at work like this is nice way.
It's like, hey, this isn't quite working. We want to
tweet this, let me help you. How would you? And
you know, like like anyone when you're dealing with an egotist.
And the best example I've ever seen was Angelo Dundee
who used to train Muhammad Ali. After Ali would spa

(01:44:20):
he go champ. That was amazing the way you did
that thing? That was how did you come up with that?
Andy'd be what Angelo wanted him to do all along,
but because Ali then thought it was his idea, then
he would do it more and more. There are ways
of dealing with you know, because look, anyone who goes
on TV as a progress that they all kind of
exist on this apex between thinking they're the best thing

(01:44:42):
that God ever put on green Earth and thinking they're
absolute fraud. They're always at this apex, all of them,
every even the most confident UFC fighter or wrestler I've
ever dealt with, it's still got the right on the
brink between the two. And that's where they get creativity
and they get their drive from. She knows she's not
doing well right now. I think it's the messy, it's

(01:45:06):
the message I think she must.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
I don't know, man, she seems like she's.

Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
She's got six million dollars out of Tony Kahan, which
which you know no one else has got. So she's
she's a smart lady.

Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
And everything that I've heard about her is just does
not take criticism, like and I know people that have
worked that have worked with her or worked in her orbit, Yeah,
does not take criticism. Well, you know, think she knows
everything was was was was reportedly you know, a pleasure
to work with an NXT and then once she got
to the main roster really kind of bought into that

(01:45:40):
whole four horse women thing and thought she was Rick
Flair and you know, like it just does not take
criticism at all.

Speaker 6 (01:45:49):
Don't so don't criticize her perfect, So don't criticize do
what Angelo dundee, So don't criticize her.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
But do you think Tony Khan is tactful enough to
do No.

Speaker 6 (01:45:59):
I don't think he's intelligent enough either. You need intelligence
and look, you need a little bit. Look, Tony's very honest.
I think thing he's honest with himself. But I you know,
I don't think he's got that level of duplicity because
you you've got you've got a basic leader on a
little bit and say, okay, hey that thing you did

(01:46:19):
when you just stood there and said nothing and pouted
until they shut that was great. That was that was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
Do you come up with that?

Speaker 6 (01:46:27):
You've got to meet them where they're at. And if
they're egotists, they don't take criticism. Don't criticism stop. It
takes longer. It'd be better if you could just have
a conversation and say, hey, this isn't working, let's do that.
Direct is faster. But if it won't work because the
girl doesn't take criticism, start, it's a longer path. But

(01:46:47):
just praise her for when she does something good, so
she does that more and the bad stuff less dead. Yes,
this is this isn't like I'm not divulging some amazing,
amazing like psychology here, that's how you deal with egotists.
And you know, look, anyone who's on TV for alibing

(01:47:07):
is an ecotist to varying degrees.

Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
Yeah, one hundred percent, you're you're right and good. Look,
I just I don't know what to do with it.
Because apparently she even wears an earpiece during her promos
that they feed her lines for and you can, and
I got this confirmed by somebody that knows, and you could.
You could see her hold heat to listen to the earpiece.
Sometimes when you know it's there.

Speaker 8 (01:47:33):
You know what kills it is? Like I know, people
are kind of like shell shocked because they look at
Sasha versus Mercedes. But the w B had a full
understanding of what her weaknesses were and.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
How to produce her.

Speaker 8 (01:47:47):
And a w doesn't have the savvy to handle it.
And fine, they brought you know, they brought it. What's
your name of John PEPPERML to write to you know,
write for her. But if Mercedes thinks she can handle
you know, eight pages of of of of soliloquies, you're
gonna be hard pressed the stop her. If you don't

(01:48:09):
have the people skills or the stones. Yeah, you know,
the it's it's it's you gotta figure you know. The
delusion is a wonderful thing, right, but in there there's
always just a little kernel of reality that you can see.
She loves her money, she loves her fame. But I

(01:48:32):
guarantee too, when no one's looking, it's probably scrolling through
her Twitter and she's seeing every week that she's getting
crapped on, and you gotta figure she's going wise in
this working for me. The at some point in time,
you gotta figure it out or you you you know,
no matter what happens, you gotta change gears. If it's
not working, it's not working. So it's I just it's

(01:48:53):
a you know, I I really, I honestly really think
it just comes down to they don't have an actual
eater over there in that company. From BRIT's bad behavior
to Mecey whatever she wants to do, to the behavior
well to the fact that like like so again like
the I laugh right, the Shay mcmon photo should have

(01:49:15):
been the biggest story in wrestling, and what happens uh
the the high school drama nonsense took precedent and sucked
all that oxygen out of the room, and was it
this happens to a W. They get a they get
a slimmer of good news, and then someone something stupid

(01:49:35):
and it sucks the oxygen.

Speaker 7 (01:49:37):
Now it's it's not time of year, though, to be fair,
it's summertime. The boys get crazy in the back of
a W. Apparently when it starts with the word all
they can't handle themselves anymore. I don't I don't understand.

Speaker 6 (01:49:48):
I will get.

Speaker 7 (01:49:51):
I will give a W credit. They did have enough,
have enough sense to turn Mercedes heel at least right
like they saw that and they were they took they
went that route. So maybe she's open to some criticism
or willing to try something different if she thinks not working,
because clearly her as a face wasn't working, and they

(01:50:12):
did change the direction. It's just a new direction. Isn't
any better?

Speaker 6 (01:50:17):
Well, it's an execution, it's sort of on paper. I
think it works like because when she first came in
everyone was happy to see her. The ADW fans are
happy to see her, so they're gonna cheer for a
month or two. So I think they were right not
to bring her in as a heel at first. As
bad as she is, not as bad, but you know
what I mean, she's not a natural babyface, so on paper,

(01:50:38):
it's right, Okay, they brought her in. They got you know,
because everybody was going to cheer any well enough people
are going to cheer anyway, and then they turn here.
That sounds like smart, but it's just the execution is
consistently so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:50:51):
Well, the older two is they let her go on
the whatever radio station it was, and they let her
say I'll be back in the WB eventually, and you know,
the diehards, Okay, you know that that's come on, that's you.

Speaker 7 (01:51:05):
Know, cartoon change.

Speaker 5 (01:51:07):
Her tune changed after that. Then she started attacking the
w W to get back on the good side. But
it is like when she showed up, I was like,
there's nothing that could put me off of this woman,
more like because I thought that I had already like
had such a distaste for her. And then she started
doing that cringey little dance that she does and I
was like, oh no, it gets so much worse. And

(01:51:30):
then she started talking in interviews and I heard he
started hearing about crystals and I was like, wow, okay, no,
she's just Shirley the Loon from from tiny toon adventures
like yeah deep cut right, Oh my goodness, yeah, no, she.

Speaker 6 (01:51:47):
She is just who goes over Who's winning? Britta winning
the match? Who wins for the backstage feud? Who'd you
bet your money?

Speaker 5 (01:51:59):
Brits? The backstage few Tony. Tony has some weird fascination
with her. I think she's the first ever. I think
when he signed her, she like touched his arm and like,
you know, was the first like female contact he'd ever
had in his life.

Speaker 6 (01:52:12):
And I first yes to him, yes, And I think
that that's bad. I remember the first pretty girls say
yes to me.

Speaker 7 (01:52:20):
And I also think that I think a Mercedes has
no problem going home and collecting money, whereas Britt would
never do that. Oh so you know, and it got
to the point where it was one of the other.
I think Mercedes would go, Okay, I'll go.

Speaker 5 (01:52:32):
Home by and still Britt still works most of the
week as a dentist.

Speaker 7 (01:52:36):
Yeah, I know, and she's there, she's there on site
health you know, medical team, right and then.

Speaker 17 (01:52:43):
No, no, but I could see it, you come on,
you could see it right like back there, you know,
you know, one of these like old like veterans that
have been stiffing around the locker room is.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
Like, hey, you got a prescription pad there? Huh. You
know somebody's asked, oh, my good boss mahoney were there,
he'd have been sniffing around. God bless him. I love that.
I loved him.

Speaker 7 (01:53:08):
He was pak is just every time he every time
pop s Easer, he just screams at her to give
her give him the drug.

Speaker 6 (01:53:17):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:53:18):
Andre Adams said for four ninety nine, thank you so much.
As it's an r o H fan, Apollo is one
thousand correct percent correct on everything he has said. So yeah,
everything you said about r OH being you know, worthless
and tree falls in the woods. So Andre Ams agrees
with you, and he's an r H fan, which just
shows you how bad R o H has fallen. John
j D. Nine ninety nine for a dollar ninety nine.

Speaker 6 (01:53:41):
Kitty peddler, I mean it doesn't fall on that phone.

Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
John j D. Nine ninety nine says the Uch brothers
probably staying in a W get the money?

Speaker 7 (01:53:51):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
Is that a thing? Are they staying in a though?
I hope they are because I really don't want to
see them in W.

Speaker 8 (01:53:57):
I got the billion dollars on their merchandise alone.

Speaker 5 (01:54:03):
I know there so there are three. There are three
rumored talents that are moving that is supposedly interested in WWE.
One of them I don't believe for a second Ricky Stocks,
which is the one we can all agree because he's
got his face pressed up against the glass. But you know,
like QT Marshall learned, Cody Rhodes's friend is not valid
experience on a resume, so hopefully he can show them something.

(01:54:26):
Then there's the Luca brothers, who I believe would want
to go. I just can't. And I think WW would
want them because they're basically cartoon characters. But the other
one is Daniel Garcia, and I I cannot imagine that
one on either end. I think that I think they're
playing the MJF game with this one. Again.

Speaker 8 (01:54:46):
Maybe hell is David Garcia. He's only twenty five, right.

Speaker 5 (01:54:50):
I don't care enough to look. I don't even care
enough to google it.

Speaker 8 (01:54:53):
He's only twenty five. He's a good looking kid. He's
a solid athlete. This is the problem with the The
problem with AW is that if you are a wrestler,
when you go to AW, that is where your equity
as a wrestler goes to die. You're not gonna grow it.
If you have it, you're gonna lose it. Garcia is

(01:55:16):
actually one of the few people who actually benefited from
his time with Jericho. Jericho moved him up the card,
and he has stayed there. He's been stuck because like
everybody else, you do something for two weeks and then
he's going for eight, and then he's back for a week,
and then he's gone for ten. The so that it's
I could see that, I can see the WB gobbling

(01:55:37):
come up. One just for the sake of saying, hey,
we took someone look look at ethan page. We took
someone that you couldn't make a star out of it.
We instantly made them a star, you know, just to
kind of send the message out there, because why not.
Sometimes you have to make it clear, Hey, if you
actually want to be a star, this is where you

(01:55:57):
should be trying to go. At this point, what is
you're only going to a w to to get the
big check. The other Matt, what are you getting out
of it? You're you're legitimately wasting your time. Look at
a kata Listen, I get it. He probably figured he
can go get a crap ton of money. Actually have
a brinch truck backup and by the time he gets out,

(01:56:19):
he's still young enough to make a push for the
w W A the everybody else THO, if you're if
you're a young kid and you're trapped in a e
W and you've gotten everything to get out of it,
I'm going I'm gonna go run down the n x
T and I'm gonna go be a star. It will
within three weeks of me being there.

Speaker 5 (01:56:37):
But you know, like I could see W hold on,
is WWE interested in every person that comes out of
a W I don't think it is a W obviously
interested in every person that comes out of the w WE.
But I don't think Triple H, you know, is gonna
instantly look at you just because you were on a W.

Speaker 8 (01:56:53):
I don't think that's it's It's really one of the experience.
Because you gotta remember too, A lot of the n
XT kids, fine, they do house shows on the weekend,
but they don't have reps. This is why the TEENA
deal is such a big deal for them. These kids
can pop up an impact. These kids can probably eventually
pop up on Triple A New Japan and they can

(01:57:15):
get reps in. But if you have people who even
though it's a crappy TV show, yes, you know, someone
like Garcia was on Weekly TV and understands the basic
principles of it. Having him around helps the kids. So
it's it's not really just a matter of you are
an aw take you because it can. There's there's there's

(01:57:38):
there's a little more psychology behind it. And I again,
you got a young athlete, go looking kid. He's clearly marketable.
It's not you're just signing the sign like WW could
very easily do something with him other than have him
smashing the face with his junk every week.

Speaker 14 (01:57:55):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 7 (01:57:56):
Think we're also under estimating. We're underestimating guys is like uh,
Cody and see him Punk who Triple H does value
their opinions. Dana Garcilla wasn't a guy who was causing
problems backstage. He wasn't he He was very he seems
very respectful. Whenever he heard stories about him, it seemed
like all those guys liked him, Punk liked him. It

(01:58:18):
seemed like Cody liked him. So the I can imagine
Triple H's going to him and saying, hey, what do
you think about this guy? And they'll be like, yeah,
he's good, give him a shot, you know, and that I.

Speaker 5 (01:58:28):
Don't know. The aw fans see him as you know,
they said him and and and wheely Youda were the
new Austin and rock like he's gonna go to WWE
and he's not going to have that anymore. So it's
a matter of do you want to be a star
or are you monk? Like that's let's see it.

Speaker 8 (01:58:44):
He seems like I don't know, but he well considering
that he actually listened because that, you know, even though
it was the crups of the storyline, but he clearly listened.
He took advice, and he changed his character. Now he
sort of has a cat character that makes him infinitely
more desirable than most of that roster because that roster

(01:59:06):
has a listening problem. They don't listen to me, you know.
They want people who are coachable. So if you have
one of the few who's coachable and you can make
money off of them, you gobble them up. And after
that it's sink or swim, right Like, just because you
get signed doesn't mean you're guaranteed to be there for life.
You still have to you still have to you know,

(01:59:27):
set the carry, you set the carry your weight. But again,
I just go look at Ethan Page as a very
clear indicator on what you can do with someone who's
willing to put the work in. They dropped the ball
with Ethan Page. They have dropped the ball with with
with Ricky Starks, They've dropped the ball with like Garcia.
I would even say they dropped the ball with Sammy,

(01:59:49):
you know, And and I think Sammy was one of
the ones who signed a super long contract last year.

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
So we wait. And here's the thing is the fact
that when these guys are now trying to go, you know, Buddy, Buddy,
Buddy tried to go, and you Gia tries to go,
Lucher brothers, He's gonna throw so much money at them,
money that w W will never give to a guy
like Daniel Gucia or the Lucher brothers never ever, ever, ever, ever,
And they're probably gonna take the bag. I mean, like,

(02:00:15):
if what John said is true and the Lucher Brothers
are not going to w W, E, it's because Tony
backed up a dumb truck full of money to and
if if the reports are true and that Tony is
like basing these contracts off of what he thinks he's
gonna get for a new deal, a new TV deal.
That is the single stupidest He's spending money that the

(02:00:35):
company doesn't have. I mean he yes, he has more
money than God.

Speaker 4 (02:00:39):
But what.

Speaker 5 (02:00:42):
You're not gonna be. The reason he keeps winning these
these battles for free agents is he's offering these guys
more money than they will ever see in their lives.
WW is offering them WrestleMania, like the potential for WrestleMania.

Speaker 8 (02:00:59):
Well, how many free agents did they really lose?

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
Though?

Speaker 8 (02:01:03):
Mercedes? Mercedes wanted Becky Lynch money and she's not Becky Lynch,
so she wasn't gonna get it right. She has that
obsession with with being with being Becky superior because she
can't accept that Becky's surpassed her. And then they lost
that an Osprey and Buddy, and but Buddy was already

(02:01:25):
there and Buddy had an ax to grind with them.
I know someone who knows Buddy and Buddy, you know,
for a long time said I would never go back,
and then kind of softened very recently, and then you know,
got a big chunk of money to stay the Yeah,
it's they they're not really like other than really Ocado

(02:01:46):
is a shocking one for me, but again I get it.
He's he's playing the long game. I'm cashing out early
and I should still be young enough to go to
go to go become a star. Everybody else I don't know.
It's it's just it's you know, you said you go
get paid because the game can be over at any moment.
But again, there's there again, there's there's there's I wouldn't

(02:02:07):
listen if I'm the Lucha bros. I know that the
w D wants to go to Mexico. The w wants
to go to Mexico. They want, they won't.

Speaker 5 (02:02:14):
I'm so beyond done with this topic. I just yes,
they're gonna take the money w W wants them. I
get it.

Speaker 8 (02:02:22):
It's well, if the Lucher Bros go, it's gonna be
like to see it in scarface when when when Tony
and Sosa are laughing as the money is being printed. Now,
that's just that's the Lucher Bros. Whether you know, whether
we like him or not. There it's a ship ton
of money for them.

Speaker 5 (02:02:37):
Well yeah, and w W E clearly wants more lutrators.
It's it's very obvious when you look at the roster
they've got now Kenneth Douglas for ten dollars saying in
the last episode Mercedes said the brit wasn't at the
arena twice twice. I was dumbfounded. What happened to swerving
the crowd like Sean did to Canada by playing Brett's
music to fool them? That was amazing. Okay, that was

(02:02:58):
one of the greatest heel promos of all time. If
you guys ever want to watch a flawless heel promo
Sean Michaels leading into that summer slam against Hogan in Montreal.
Holy hell, was that the most Again.

Speaker 18 (02:03:13):
When when he came out and he just went, who's
your Dunn?

Speaker 5 (02:03:16):
Montreal? Like it was masterful, and the booze and and
when he when he hit them twice with Brett's music,
Good Lord? Was that amazing?

Speaker 4 (02:03:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:03:27):
So yeah, And you know, aw has the the nuance
of a brick.

Speaker 6 (02:03:32):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:03:32):
Jennifer Jennifer Pepperman. She is a She is a Daytime
Emmy Award winning writer, which apparently I heard a story
that she brought her Daytime Emmy into a WWE production
meeting one time. I guess to like, you know, somebody
wanted to see it or something. And Kevin Dunn was
so incensed by it because he's a miserable, like like

(02:03:55):
nub of a human being that that he just like
he was so angry that she brought her Amie. Yet
he's just incredibly jealous. But Kareem hop it for fifty dollars.
My goodness, thank you so much. Hey, Kareem, Holy holy hell,
and Kareem new brand new subscriber subscribe today. I saw him.

(02:04:15):
I saw him over on Tonytown TV. I quoted Jim
Cornette in my Zack Snyder in my Zack Snyder rant
from Tonytown TV, and I said, you know, it was
like the I'm tired of saying that. I'm tired of
saying I told you so because I gotta do it
so often. But I told you so. And he was
like cult of Cornett and I was like, hey man,

(02:04:37):
we got a wrestling channel and here he is over here. Man,
he's a seventy eight Bronx kid here and now a
fan have to bail. But wanted to send love at
the just discovery you guys this week wish I knew
of you sooner. You're all amazing, Kevin brother them Trapezis,
Damn Shane, your regimen BROV long lived the cult of Cornette. Fantastic.
Thank you so much, Kareem that that that that deserves

(02:04:59):
some kind of some kind of some kind of video clip.
I gotta maybe maybe a I have never heard.

Speaker 19 (02:05:07):
So many guys in my entire life other than what
I was saying them.

Speaker 5 (02:05:13):
It's my favorite quote. I love it so much. But yes,
thank you so much man. That that's very very generous move.
Moving along, we got uh Samurai sam for five dollars.
The rumor is that Tony is adding injury time to
Phoenix's contract. Not sure that it'll be a good pr
move and long term move with the Lucha Bros. At
the end of the day, when Tony does that, when

(02:05:34):
he adds time injury time to contracts, I never blamed
him for that. Is it hypocritical? Yes, because good guy
Tony is the guy that was supposed to never be
the one to do that, right. But I I think
that's a solid that's a business move, that's a business movie.

Speaker 6 (02:05:51):
It's in the contract. Then it's in the contract they
signed it. It's it's a contract one.

Speaker 5 (02:05:57):
For a year and then and they're sitting out six months. Yeah,
I know you should be adding that time on to
the end of the contract.

Speaker 6 (02:06:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:06:03):
He doesn't seem to pick and choose. He did it
to Kenny, you know, I mean he's not It's not
like he's just doing it to the guys who you
think might leave. Like he's doing it to everybody.

Speaker 5 (02:06:11):
So yeah, it's especially got to do it. You especially
have to do it to Kenny. Yeah, because because I
think Kenny Omega at this point, even before the dive
of ticulitis, has spent more time off TV injured than
on TV.

Speaker 6 (02:06:27):
He spends more time in boundary than Mamra.

Speaker 8 (02:06:32):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:06:32):
Every once in a while he's he does the ancient
spirits spirits. I have never Kenny Omega. Have you ever
seen a guy more jacked look like so much of
a pussy in your entire life?

Speaker 8 (02:06:53):
Anybody gear doesn't mean you're tough.

Speaker 5 (02:06:56):
He he is so, but he's so jacked up, and
I'm like, anyone could kick your ass.

Speaker 7 (02:07:03):
I don't know, man. I saw Kenny Omega in the
mid two thousands at an indie show and he did
that stupid like he was doing a slow motion bit
where some one of the wrestlers stopped and like put
his hand out and they did all acted like they
did slow mo. They had to be in slow motion
for like a minute and it went on way too long.

(02:07:25):
And that minute, that that second, I knew I'm just
never gonna be a Kenny Omega fan. And that was
like when he was like early twenties, and I just like,
but then I thought when I heard he was coming
to AW because I kind of dropped out of like
Japan and that kind of stuff. So I heard he's
coming to AW, I'm like, well, he's supposed to be
this huge deal. Now he's supposed to be this you know,
maybe he's changed. And then I went up look at something.

(02:07:46):
He's fighting blowdolls, blow up dolls and doing street fighter moves.
He's the same thing he was back.

Speaker 5 (02:07:51):
Then, fighting fighting nine year old nine year old kids,
and yeah, it's all.

Speaker 7 (02:07:55):
He hasn't evolved at all. You know, he can do
he can do funny like more on moves and that's
about it.

Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
So no, but but now we talks like he's this
like grizzled veteran and I just can't stand him. Yeah,
Jamie Earhott for five dollars Canadian says, just got here,
liked and wanted to let you, wanted you to know.
I love your show. I think the chemistry between all
is amazing and there was so much knowledge between all.
Thank you so much, Jamie. This is this is the

(02:08:23):
best panel in wrestling. I honestly believe it. And uh
yeah it's I love it. I love it.

Speaker 7 (02:08:31):
How knowledgeab we are tune into one of the episodes
that we do Awful Jeopardy and you can really see.

Speaker 20 (02:08:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:08:37):
Now I'm I missed Awful Jeopardy and you know I'm
an egotist, So I didn't actually watch the episode after
I did my super chats that night. Now I'm kidding,
I fell asleep because missus Movie Monster was like, we
have to be up at five in the morning to
get back on the road. Go to sleep and let
them run your show. Uh so I I have not

(02:08:58):
gotten to participate in Awful Jeopardy yet I really want to.

Speaker 4 (02:09:00):
That's a point, gentleman.

Speaker 13 (02:09:01):
He also said, Marv said to me personally like he
would have he would have wiped you guys up.

Speaker 7 (02:09:06):
Oh he saw I saw the group.

Speaker 5 (02:09:08):
I said that I said that publicly. No, I'm Kevin
Will Kevin will test. I am ungodly levels of competitive
when it comes to any kind of like game, So
I do not like to I do not like to lose.

Speaker 8 (02:09:22):
My pocket. Though that if I unleashed him on a
on the Jeopardy, he would be astounded. As to the
whip you cost.

Speaker 5 (02:09:31):
Are you talking about j I yes, I am yes,
now it would be that that is like that that
that is when when Superman arrives on the battlefield and
all the villains run, Like.

Speaker 8 (02:09:42):
I watched him with the old w trivia game. Someone
challenged him and he did the entire stack.

Speaker 6 (02:09:50):
Just boom boom boom boom boom.

Speaker 8 (02:09:52):
He legit ran trained on this person.

Speaker 7 (02:09:55):
And I think I'll suggest this when you do it.
If when when it is your turn, you should probably
maybe take a few minutes, let me host the show
at that point and you play, because it is very
difficult to play and host at the same time.

Speaker 5 (02:10:08):
I can imagine.

Speaker 7 (02:10:09):
Yeah, like because I and neck beerds like took a
took a little you know, he had to break pervenant,
so I had to watch the chat and I'm trying
not to cheat, so I'm looking and like every once
in a while, I see a question that I was
already gonna answer and I'd have to be like, oh no,
I didn't know that one, and I answered like I
felt so dumb at the us W A question. I
was just punching myself, but I saw it in the
chat and I didn't want to say it, so I

(02:10:30):
just said nothing, and it gets it gets hard.

Speaker 5 (02:10:32):
So so like I'm talking a lot of I'm talking
a lot of a lot of trash, but in reality
I would probably get destroyed an awful jack so.

Speaker 21 (02:10:41):
keV just left. That was my favorite part. I got
no bid you one because you left me questions wrong.

Speaker 5 (02:10:53):
George Stanza going out on a high note.

Speaker 8 (02:10:57):
Bill Burray at the end of Space jam yup.

Speaker 5 (02:11:02):
Oh my god, what a great reference that is. Wow.
So apparently the chat, by the way, not not agreeing
with you all. I love you all, But that was
a bit painful. Awful awful Jeopardy was pretty awful.

Speaker 8 (02:11:18):
That's not fair.

Speaker 13 (02:11:23):
Yeah, the game itself or the answers that were that,
you know, they couldn't answer the questions that they couldn't answer.

Speaker 5 (02:11:32):
I don't need bad at it?

Speaker 4 (02:11:33):
Or was it was the concept?

Speaker 13 (02:11:35):
Man?

Speaker 4 (02:11:35):
I don't know this guys.

Speaker 5 (02:11:38):
No, no, no, the concept is solid. Lisa says they
couldn't answer any of the questions. It was kind of
like you made it too hot. In other words, the
answers the answer is not the game what.

Speaker 8 (02:11:54):
There was one of the guid Jin questions like, hold
on a second, I didn't understand the question because I
thought socially answering question by the guy Jim, you actually
asked the question about the Japanese guy.

Speaker 4 (02:12:04):
I did, yes, I did.

Speaker 13 (02:12:09):
But then you went you said you read a question
from the bottom up.

Speaker 8 (02:12:13):
I did.

Speaker 5 (02:12:14):
I did.

Speaker 8 (02:12:14):
I was just I was just it was the sinus
infection and not sleeping with this child. I was like,
I was like, oh, oh I know this is doctor death.
Oh shoot, oh yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:12:26):
Neck beards once needs to get in because he said
he'd wipe up too, so I definitely.

Speaker 4 (02:12:30):
Have to neck beards.

Speaker 5 (02:12:31):
I think neckbans I think would actually be neck beard
is is such a deep knowledge, like you can pull
up like any like like old obscure announcer and he's like,
oh that's so and so he was in like he
knows everything. It's insane, all right. So looking at what
other topics we have before we get to doctor d
Let me see here. Oh how about the fact that, yeah, Tony,

(02:12:55):
let's say, get Tony Khan. Right, I'm so sorry to
have to break it to you, to get Tony Khan
and h You have your e vps and you put
them in your biggest feud of the year, going into
your biggest show of the year, but they're not on
your weekly show because they work limited dates. That's what
the young bucks are doing?

Speaker 6 (02:13:16):
Well all, I mean they're not at the gym. What
are they doing?

Speaker 5 (02:13:19):
Oh yeah, probably playing video games with Kenny Omega.

Speaker 7 (02:13:23):
It's shopping.

Speaker 8 (02:13:25):
He goes to the gym.

Speaker 7 (02:13:28):
Uh, it's it's a it's a it's a really. I mean,
I I guess I get it. I get why you
give them, you know, their EVPs, they get benefits whatever.
But to do it this close to your biggest paper
of the year, I mean, if they think they can.

Speaker 5 (02:13:43):
Do they consider that? Do they consider this the biggest
pay per view of the year? Do you think? Yeah,
exist in the WrestleMania. Yeah, because they have another pay
per view like a week later, don't they all out?

Speaker 7 (02:13:53):
Yeah, that's that's two weeks later.

Speaker 5 (02:13:55):
Yeah, yeah, like like backlash doesn't happen immediately after WrestleMania.
It's weird to me. I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (02:14:01):
Yeah, I just wish I could have in the room
and they came up with this and we do this
wool out, you know, I wish I wish I could
have been That's the fucking stupidest brand and I've never heard.

Speaker 5 (02:14:12):
It's one thing though, if you do all out like
I'm like the next month, but to do it two
weeks and last year, wasn't it like the next year
it was a week apart.

Speaker 6 (02:14:19):
The week it was a week in part. Yeah.

Speaker 20 (02:14:21):
See, I think the original idea was wasn't it in Chicago?

Speaker 6 (02:14:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:14:25):
Yeah, I think there was the man all of them
are in Chica, all of the all lands are in Chicago,
are all out?

Speaker 6 (02:14:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:14:33):
Well yeah, because he runs he runs the same building
every year for these shows and kills the town, right. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:14:40):
I think that it was their shot at instead of
doing two nights in a row, will do two weekends
in a row. It's like WrestleMania where they have two nights,
but we spread it out over a week. It's bigger
than WrestleMania because it goes a whole week, I think,
and it goes from two different places, Like I think
that was the original idea, but then he had nothing
left over for all Out when he was done with

(02:15:02):
All In, and so now all Out is just the
all In leftover show. Yeah, I mean it's probably gonna
be swer verset Hangman, which is the match that would
make sense on this pay per view.

Speaker 5 (02:15:12):
But they still have like litting each other on fire,
they've drank each other's blood. What left is then left
for the two of them to do?

Speaker 7 (02:15:19):
Oh, I don't know. I'm just saying, because of how
they've been building this paper view, they should.

Speaker 5 (02:15:23):
Not be anywhere near each other for oh my goodness
knowing them, and it'll just be knowing a W be
like a straight up regular match.

Speaker 7 (02:15:34):
So I do have a bit of breaking news for AW. Okay,
they have a their TV show or new show. Actually
they just announced it. It's gonna be debuting I believe
next Monday. It is ae W Stories and it is
a documentary series based on the biggest events in a
W history where they show us backstage.

Speaker 5 (02:15:56):
No, you're making you're making this up.

Speaker 7 (02:15:58):
You know you know where it's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (02:16:00):
It's a five year old company.

Speaker 7 (02:16:02):
You know where it's going to be you know what
channel it's on YouTube? Their YouTube channel, Yeah, it is,
so that video is coming out this I know, so
so with with how with how much they're pushing a
new deal and they're talking about this seemed like something
that would have been part of a new deal. And
here my.

Speaker 5 (02:16:23):
Monday Nights. It's going on Monday nights like opposite.

Speaker 7 (02:16:25):
Raw, I think it's gonna going live on Mondays, like
it's like.

Speaker 5 (02:16:28):
The New Monday Night. The New Monday Night was story
Monday Night.

Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
Raw.

Speaker 5 (02:16:36):
I'm trying to find.

Speaker 6 (02:16:37):
The mean that could be if you know, if that
was legit. But you know, I'm sorting out Britt Baker
and mj F that they captured that, but you know
it's not going to be that.

Speaker 5 (02:16:47):
Oh you think this is what?

Speaker 7 (02:16:49):
Do you think this is the footage they shop for
season two of All Access that never got aired? Maybe,
well that's what it sounded like to me.

Speaker 6 (02:16:55):
And you know, it's like, all right, you thought about
the storylines is okay? Do you think this is one
of the main the fucking chaos back there where everybody
not talking? And then I've watched the hell out of
that show.

Speaker 5 (02:17:08):
It would It'll never be that though it'll never be.
It's always it's always got to be. Everything's great, you know,
it's that's that's that's what's always got to be. I'm
looking for the the clip of the attendance for Double
and Nothing. I think it's Double and Nothing the one
next month where like at author Ash Stadium it was

(02:17:31):
like twenty one thousand people the first year they did it,
and to this point they have sold maybe like what
was it like three yeah, three thousand tickets or something
like that.

Speaker 7 (02:17:44):
Did you see them their last their last Arlington show
is the lowest selling Arlington show, like no, no crowd?

Speaker 5 (02:17:52):
Yeah, who who could have called that one?

Speaker 4 (02:17:56):
Hey?

Speaker 13 (02:17:56):
This where did that information come from? As far as
this television show.

Speaker 7 (02:18:00):
I saw, I saw when I was going when I
was looking through Twitter, there are several places reporting it
like it had it had a pictures and everything like
it seems like somebody put it out. I don't know
who put it out because I had come back to
the show, but yeah, it's coming up soon actually, and
it seems, like I said, it seems like it's already
in the can ready to go, Like this is something

(02:18:21):
they've been sitting on for a while.

Speaker 5 (02:18:22):
So I know that I have this image saved somewhere,
and now I can't find it because it's like every
year it was a little bit less, a little bit less,
until here we are running these same buildings every single year.
Is the single dumbest thing I've ever seen a wrestling
promoter do.

Speaker 4 (02:18:42):
If they were good, Marv, it wouldn't be an issue.

Speaker 5 (02:18:46):
But like WWW shows too, and they don't run the
same building for the same event multiple years in a row.
They haven't done it. The only time I remember them
ever doing it was when they did Trump Plaza for
WrestleManias four and five.

Speaker 4 (02:18:58):
Right, aren't they kind of doing the same thing with Indianapolis?

Speaker 5 (02:19:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:19:08):
Over the next three years, all right.

Speaker 6 (02:19:10):
M j G.

Speaker 5 (02:19:11):
But is it the same paper view?

Speaker 8 (02:19:12):
Is it like back you get three of the Big
the Big four exactly? But you know it's listen, aw's
cold right now, man, it's not cool. We're we can
openly discuss how you know, everybody's seen the clip of
the girl who said, what is it? Oh God, she's like,
nothing gives me the X more than someone who likes wrestling.

(02:19:33):
But when you see the whole clip, the second half
of the clip is no, not w W E A
e W. It's weird wrestling. It's weird people doing weird things.
Is the entire clip of that video. So, like, you know,
the jig is up you. You you made a NERD organization.

(02:19:53):
Everybody knows that if you watch us here at f NERD,
the and not the cool one. It's just it's it's
it's you know, no America.

Speaker 6 (02:20:02):
Has Tony's telling you. He says, I'm make wrestling for
the sickos, like we know, but thanks for he com one.

Speaker 5 (02:20:10):
Yeah, MJG for ten dollars, says the EVP is not
putting in full schedules, and then some to secure every
deal possible for the company is a huge red flag
of Tony's ability to run a business. If the titles
adjust for perception, that's worse. And then he followed up
to two dollars, Thank you so much. MJG says Grand Slam.
They didn't even put five K tickets and so yeah, okay,

(02:20:30):
it wasn't double or nothing, it was Grand Slam.

Speaker 7 (02:20:32):
Yeah, I I have the tweet in the chat if
you want to look at it.

Speaker 5 (02:20:36):
Oh, thank you, Dan, Yeah, I appreciate that, all right.
So we've got okay, yep. Year by year twenty twenty one,
nineteen thousand plus tickets distributed, twenty twenty two, thirteen thousand
plus tickets distributed, twenty twenty three, eleven thousand plus tickets distributed,
forty five hundred tickets distributed first count, twenty twenty four,

(02:20:57):
forty eight hundred tickets set up, thirty five hundred tickets
distributed first count.

Speaker 7 (02:21:03):
So yeah, and they want to run another stadium show
in the United States.

Speaker 5 (02:21:08):
Well, yeah, they want to run a stadium in Texas.
That's right, that's got it. Some people say that's the
announcement this week that it's gonna be It's gonna be
the Texas Stadium Show. I think they're right about that.

Speaker 7 (02:21:21):
Mutiple.

Speaker 5 (02:21:22):
So yeah, he's he's hoping so that he can rub
it in everybody's face, including yours.

Speaker 4 (02:21:28):
Oh, he can't wait. But guess what's gonna not happen.

Speaker 5 (02:21:33):
I don't know, man, it might happen. Yeah, my friend,
the uh what did you just said?

Speaker 8 (02:21:44):
Oh my goodness, it's something I'd mentioned last week and
I just found found it in my phone.

Speaker 5 (02:21:49):
It's the Oh it's the the Nariba chiltern thing. Yeah,
I'll watch it later. The uh good lord, all right,
so you guys ready to take a trip to doctor
d David Sheltz. Hell yeah, so we are, we are,
we are. Oh hold on one second, we've got oh

(02:22:09):
m J G Fors that's my tweet. There you go,
thank you very much. We enjoyed.

Speaker 7 (02:22:15):
I didn't realize that was him, one of my favorite
Twitter accounts actually, so.

Speaker 5 (02:22:18):
Yeah, man, we we all you know, we all enjoy you. Yeah,
I follow you too, So hold on, I want to actually,
I want to actually, I want to actually show the
tweet since it's.

Speaker 4 (02:22:29):
Uh yeah, please yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:22:32):
Get him some I hope it. I hope it is
him and it's not somebody that just like copied his
tweet a w Grand Slam year by year. That's that's
the information that we've got here, folks.

Speaker 4 (02:22:46):
Oh yeah, he's an awesome uh account.

Speaker 5 (02:22:49):
Yeah. Maybe a pro wrestling historian can make historical comps
to other promotions and events, but this is this is
historical demand instruction in one of the most important markets
there is. It's so bad. I can't even laugh. I'm
embarrassed for them. I thought the TV was getting better,
and I know tons of aw defenders have been saying

(02:23:10):
that this is the best stretch yet. Who is watching
or even engaged in this product anymore? When you pair
this with the tickets sold since the start of twenty
twenty four for all In, there will not be an
all In in twenty twenty six, not at Wembley. Bookmark this.
I'm gonna bookmuck it right now because I don't lose
it again, all right. So, and then Jamie Iarho for

(02:23:34):
five dollars Canadian says it's Tony's personal zoo of trained humans.
It is.

Speaker 13 (02:23:39):
It is on a certain level. It probably is. That's
kind of sad if you ask me, but I believe
it to be true.

Speaker 5 (02:23:45):
That's actually like a line in the upcoming song parody
the Pokemon one where it's like, it's like my own
rest the zoo Tony a Khon, Like, so he's reading
my mind here, Jamie, he's.

Speaker 8 (02:23:56):
The kids from the toy.

Speaker 5 (02:23:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:23:59):
Yeah, so amazing forty three years old thinking that way.
It's astounding to me.

Speaker 5 (02:24:07):
You, Ryan David says for two dollars, say, is wal
gonna watch Lost instead of aw? My goodness? All right,
so let's get on to as we know, we're running
low on doctor d Dave Schultz promos. Yeah, we we've
kind of like hit the bottom of the barrel. So
before we switch over to the occasional excerpt of his

(02:24:31):
book or the New Jack and plus the New Jack
promos of the week from Smoking Mountain Wrestling, we are
taking a look at his appearance on the Morton Downey
Junior Show. And now this started last week and we
saw him confronting a man who was supposedly a professional
wrestler who was shall we say so, he exposed the business,

(02:24:53):
asked him about blading right in front of Morton Downy Junr.
Or Moon and I keep saying Morton Danny Junior? Is
he a junior? Am I thinking Robert Danny Jr? Okay?
And then Dennis Carluzzo, the former president of the NWA
popped up. So that's where we left off. They were

(02:25:15):
just hold on Travis Heckel popping in for ten dollars,
a good friend from the Jim Cornette experience. In Cornett's
drive through the thumbnail artis of the races as a Kentuckian,
I don't claim Sean Ross the little the last name
fits SAP also props to my special Olympics team, the
Pit bear Cats for winning the Kentucky Regionals in softball.
Now it's on to stay a good for you guys,

(02:25:37):
good for the good for the bare Cats, the Pit
bear Cats like bear Cat Lee. Thank you, Travis Gleger.
Glad you're listening. All right, So let's get home. Dam yeah,
big shout out. We love him, big time friend of
the show. All right, So here we are. We're five
minutes forty three seconds into this, and away we go.

(02:25:58):
Hold on, let me turn the fiel.

Speaker 4 (02:25:59):
A little bit.

Speaker 20 (02:26:01):
You'll put up the money anytime, anytime, right Let now,
right now, hold.

Speaker 5 (02:26:09):
On, I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back a
minute just to just to get us caught up, and
I'm not going to really interrupt it.

Speaker 8 (02:26:15):
So previously Tony.

Speaker 5 (02:26:17):
Town, previously on the Morton Donney Junior Show.

Speaker 12 (02:26:20):
Let me see sorry your name.

Speaker 20 (02:26:22):
My name is Dennis Carluzzo, and I'm a promoter.

Speaker 6 (02:26:25):
All right.

Speaker 22 (02:26:25):
I want to say one thing. For years, wrestling has
had that stigma about it with this guy's crying. But
it's gonna stop use people from going no.

Speaker 4 (02:26:33):
So what do you do do?

Speaker 6 (02:26:36):
Let me explain some about this guy's background.

Speaker 4 (02:26:38):
Straight from South Philly.

Speaker 6 (02:26:39):
Just talk a turn back.

Speaker 20 (02:26:40):
You were nothing but the bottom of the car.

Speaker 5 (02:26:42):
Oh you could totally hear it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:43):
You know, food like order.

Speaker 20 (02:26:49):
Our job is excuses for not making it in the NFL.

Speaker 22 (02:26:52):
You had excuses for not making in pro wrestling, and
you're gonna have more excuses when this falls on your face.

Speaker 8 (02:26:57):
What are you trying to prove?

Speaker 7 (02:26:59):
You're coming out here going on stout.

Speaker 5 (02:27:01):
I need Dennis Caluso to swallow all the saliva that's
currently in his mouth.

Speaker 4 (02:27:06):
Disgusting.

Speaker 5 (02:27:07):
He just sounds like he's just got a mouthful of mucus.
I'm sorry, Well, what.

Speaker 20 (02:27:15):
A second, Wait a second.

Speaker 12 (02:27:17):
On this show, Jim's damn well entitled to say what
he's trying to prove. Everybody has an opinion, obviously, and
these gentlemen have theirs.

Speaker 6 (02:27:25):
This is America.

Speaker 12 (02:27:26):
Well I know all that. Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 5 (02:27:29):
Look at that's fine.

Speaker 7 (02:27:32):
Arrange it.

Speaker 5 (02:27:32):
Chul Is like, oh he wants to play that this
is America.

Speaker 4 (02:27:35):
God, all right, looking for the cheap pop.

Speaker 5 (02:27:39):
I got the Second Amendment here, boy, you'll put Calousos
like I'll put up the Mike Calusos his dollar sides.

Speaker 4 (02:27:57):
He's like, I'll promote it yeah.

Speaker 20 (02:28:00):
Money, anytime, any time, right now, Let no.

Speaker 4 (02:28:07):
Lully, lem me.

Speaker 7 (02:28:10):
I want to go.

Speaker 12 (02:28:11):
I want to go to Paul dangerously on the telephone.

Speaker 5 (02:28:16):
Hold on, we're bringing in Hayman.

Speaker 23 (02:28:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:28:19):
There's like nine thousand cameos in this episode, somewhere in
that crowd in a Hawaiian shirt.

Speaker 12 (02:28:26):
I love this so much, buddy, If I can more, well,
let me ask you a question you've been listening to
show stop. I have, all right, my good man, Jim
Wilson's life story. What do you make of his statement
that he was basically blackball from wrestling?

Speaker 9 (02:28:41):
Uh, Jim Willison was black ball from wrestling, and that
is the truth.

Speaker 13 (02:28:46):
And I'll tell you why.

Speaker 5 (02:28:47):
Right now, because okay, hold on, what's he going to say?
For those of us that have not seen I would
see black ball from wrestling.

Speaker 7 (02:28:55):
I think you can say he was he was a pussy, right.
I think that's what he's gonna say.

Speaker 4 (02:29:01):
He couldn't hack it.

Speaker 7 (02:29:03):
He never threw a dime in his life, and nobody ever.

Speaker 2 (02:29:05):
Wants to.

Speaker 5 (02:29:08):
Ten thousand guitar shots, not more than The wrestling business.

Speaker 2 (02:29:12):
Is exactly like television.

Speaker 7 (02:29:14):
If you don't produce writings, I don't care how good.

Speaker 4 (02:29:17):
What can y'all.

Speaker 7 (02:29:20):
What producer?

Speaker 5 (02:29:24):
I don't care what produces your sleep with.

Speaker 8 (02:29:27):
Yeah, say he wasn't violated. I'm just saying it doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (02:29:38):
I think is I think Paul is implying that he
did it to get ahead, that it wasn't you know, Yeah,
that's what he loved.

Speaker 5 (02:29:46):
He whispered suade nothings into mister Barnett's ears from.

Speaker 7 (02:29:50):
Because aunt wasn't here.

Speaker 5 (02:29:52):
So this guy's claiming that he was Jim Barnett.

Speaker 7 (02:29:56):
Jim Barnett took advantage of him. And and I think
Paul is saying, no, you were willing, You were trying
to get ahead and it didn't work, and that's why
you're here.

Speaker 6 (02:30:04):
Yeah, so it wasn't true.

Speaker 5 (02:30:05):
Look ahead, good one awful with everybody.

Speaker 7 (02:30:13):
Oh he never time, And they said.

Speaker 5 (02:30:15):
Get out of the business.

Speaker 12 (02:30:18):
How much money'd you making wrestling? How much money did
you making wrestling?

Speaker 4 (02:30:21):
Jim?

Speaker 6 (02:30:21):
I didn't make a lot of money, though.

Speaker 12 (02:30:23):
You said, you've had a couple of thousand matches.

Speaker 2 (02:30:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:30:25):
The best that I had with saw Austraa.

Speaker 6 (02:30:29):
For eight hundred dollars a week back in nineteen seventy three, eight.

Speaker 12 (02:30:32):
Hundred bucks a week in Australia, right, and they cut that.

Speaker 6 (02:30:34):
Like I say, when I wouldn't go to bed with
the promoter, they want to go I.

Speaker 12 (02:30:39):
Have never Jim, look at baby. I gotta tell you
how you are not that.

Speaker 4 (02:30:44):
You pause for a second.

Speaker 5 (02:30:46):
Wait did Boydon Downy just say that he's not attractive
enough to bless?

Speaker 14 (02:30:53):
Oh my god, oh god, different time world.

Speaker 5 (02:31:06):
Right now, go ahead, go ahead?

Speaker 13 (02:31:08):
Awful this this goes back to that awful Jeopardy question
where Jim Barnett ran w c W in Australia and
this guy is mentioning Australia in his story about uh, obviously,
Jim Barnett, how about that?

Speaker 6 (02:31:22):
We go?

Speaker 5 (02:31:23):
How about that?

Speaker 12 (02:31:28):
I don't know what turns those people on, you know,
those people of that persuasion. Next, we're going to meet
the world's strangest man. I think I think I'll let
this man say any damn thing he wants. Stand.

Speaker 5 (02:31:44):
What do you think it's gonna be? Is gonna be
y trailer?

Speaker 4 (02:31:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:31:48):
Like, let the cameras come and ramp to Shelt because
we just need like the.

Speaker 6 (02:31:53):
Size camera an done behind that.

Speaker 5 (02:32:00):
That camera looks like something a Hannah barbera villain uses
to try to blow up the.

Speaker 6 (02:32:04):
Moon all pictures on that bend and what.

Speaker 4 (02:32:16):
L Kasmyer is it?

Speaker 5 (02:32:17):
Pimpeta?

Speaker 4 (02:32:21):
Who could it be?

Speaker 20 (02:32:22):
He has done it again.

Speaker 4 (02:32:24):
This is one of the most electrifying I am intrigued.

Speaker 5 (02:32:29):
Was that Tony Shavani talking? This is truly one of
the most electrifying moments in the history of.

Speaker 7 (02:32:33):
Squad I think awful is right? I think it's kas
what it is? Okay, I think, I think and we'll
get a tiny screen so or uh tedder Kadie Chat.

Speaker 8 (02:32:48):
Said yes, yeah, Patterson.

Speaker 7 (02:32:52):
Wow, this pat Patterson is the weirdest guy I've ever
read in my life.

Speaker 5 (02:32:59):
He's certainly is pretty queer, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (02:33:05):
He says and all these other things that we hear
about in professional wrestling. Let me introduce you to a
gentleman by the name of A Claude Thunderbolt Patterson.

Speaker 5 (02:33:16):
No, no, oh, no, oh, the reverence here, folks, this
is the this is He was inducted in the Hall
of Fame this year, right.

Speaker 4 (02:33:25):
He was the one who's in the speech that wouldn't
end and bored us the tears.

Speaker 5 (02:33:30):
Lord, let's see what he's got here. I have a feeling.
I have a feeling the Lord's not going to be
entering into this too much.

Speaker 12 (02:33:41):
You had a talent to be the world champion, right, yes,
to do Okay, what kept you from reaching the top
of the wrestling game.

Speaker 23 (02:33:50):
Well, promoters shout counselor why well when they do promoters, Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:33:58):
Kind of looks like now, now hasn't his hasn't his
story kind of been like Claire like, people have verified
it right, like his stuff about him, you know, the
racist promoters stuff.

Speaker 8 (02:34:12):
Yeaheah, well it was that was the time that yeah,
he's talking about something that was still an issue until like.

Speaker 5 (02:34:21):
Twenty ten.

Speaker 8 (02:34:22):
Outside of WCW, Right outside of WCW, the Southern promotion,
every other promoter on the planet was like, na, we
can't do that.

Speaker 5 (02:34:32):
Yeah yeah. Bill Watts, the guy that everyone says is racist,
was the only guy putting belts on black guys.

Speaker 4 (02:34:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (02:34:39):
As a black individual, I know what you are limited.

Speaker 12 (02:34:45):
As a black individual, You're limited. And we wrestled in
the sixties.

Speaker 6 (02:34:48):
And seventies, sixties, seventies and eighties.

Speaker 2 (02:34:50):
Okay, in the.

Speaker 12 (02:34:51):
Sixties and seventies, I understanding water hose one hundred thousand
dollars a year.

Speaker 5 (02:34:57):
Fifty to one hundred thousand dollars a year in the seventies.
That's a lot.

Speaker 23 (02:35:00):
Oh they voted me and making two hundred and twenty
five thousand.

Speaker 12 (02:35:04):
Twenty five did you make that much? How much do
you really make? I made a hundred made a hundred
thousand dollars. I see, if my memory supports me right,
that would be the days of Argentine rock Ey, Buddy Rogers.

Speaker 6 (02:35:15):
A little bit before. That was a little bit before
my time.

Speaker 12 (02:35:17):
But that was a little bit before your time, seems
to me. I didn't want making one hundred thousand dollars
in the nineteen sixties. Wasn't really discriminated against.

Speaker 20 (02:35:25):
Well, it's a matter of oh my are.

Speaker 5 (02:35:27):
They really Is he really going to push back on this?

Speaker 7 (02:35:30):
Yeah, that was a goodick, that was, yeah, advocate.

Speaker 12 (02:35:35):
Everything's a matter of thing.

Speaker 23 (02:35:36):
Well, you know, like my whole thing is that I
drew money all over the country and people came to
see you. Yes, I worked in a lot of other
different places around around the country, and I drew money,
and I just wanted the same chance that the rest
of them was getting me.

Speaker 12 (02:35:56):
I didn't want making one hundred thousand dollars in nineteen sixties.

Speaker 23 (02:36:00):
And a lot of the different places around around the country,
and I drew money, and I just wanted.

Speaker 12 (02:36:08):
When you.

Speaker 20 (02:36:10):
Didn't want to put your boats show up for the max,
you walked.

Speaker 5 (02:36:13):
Down your hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 12 (02:36:17):
You're kind of like, my whole thing is that I
drew money all over the country and people came to
see you.

Speaker 23 (02:36:27):
Yes, I worked in a lot of the different places
around around the country, and I drew money, and uh,
I just wanted the same chance that the rest.

Speaker 6 (02:36:35):
Of them was getting something that I did. Doctor d
you had more chance, man, I'm you're Georgie.

Speaker 7 (02:36:43):
You you work course.

Speaker 20 (02:36:45):
Mass buddy, of course.

Speaker 6 (02:36:46):
But when you.

Speaker 19 (02:36:55):
Didn't want to put your boats you show up for
the max, you walked out your work.

Speaker 18 (02:37:00):
Because holy hell, let me tell you about a promise
I made to my mama, not.

Speaker 13 (02:37:23):
Knowing anything about either one of their careers, crossing paths
or whatever. But Schultz, I mean, what wouldn't he have
been in the first match being a not a veteran
like Thunderbolt Patterson Like yeah, I mean, hmm.

Speaker 4 (02:37:40):
Yeah, somebody yelled out sour grapes. I don't know who
it was, but yeah, I don't know who that.

Speaker 5 (02:37:44):
I don't know who that guy who looks like he's
a cartoon sailor, uh is.

Speaker 7 (02:37:50):
Bring his name?

Speaker 6 (02:37:51):
He was.

Speaker 8 (02:37:52):
He was someone that the w w F tried to
make a big deal one or two terrible matches, you know,
and he he was like again, he's from that Lyle
Alzato era of steroids where we just take everything under
the sun and then your body implodes.

Speaker 4 (02:38:11):
Yeah, they're saying Phil Casmire, Yeah, yeah, he actually you know.

Speaker 8 (02:38:18):
Right that he wants.

Speaker 7 (02:38:18):
He lands in w c W for a little bit
and they try and.

Speaker 4 (02:38:21):
Carrying that big inflat inflatable globe down to the ring. Stupid.

Speaker 2 (02:38:27):
Just you know.

Speaker 5 (02:38:29):
I love how Schultz has moved on to the stage. Now,
by the way, he's sitting in the chair that is
gonna host.

Speaker 8 (02:38:36):
There's so many people in this episode. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:38:43):
What you have here.

Speaker 6 (02:38:44):
What you have here is.

Speaker 5 (02:38:47):
He's sitting next to the guy sitting next to him.
He just stole his heat.

Speaker 7 (02:38:57):
I'm on your side now. This is a bigger five.

Speaker 5 (02:39:02):
I never promised my mama nothing about you, Nancy boy,
but I promised something about this.

Speaker 20 (02:39:10):
I was I was all over the country.

Speaker 23 (02:39:13):
I drew money.

Speaker 6 (02:39:14):
Yes, I walked out. Why did you wait a minute?

Speaker 19 (02:39:17):
I ain't wait a minute.

Speaker 5 (02:39:19):
No, no, I ain't waiting a minute. And I love
that's right back up.

Speaker 7 (02:39:28):
I want so bad I want Underbolt Patterson to just
make a gay joke to the other guy. And doctor
g just flipped back to the other side.

Speaker 4 (02:39:36):
About doing sitting next to you.

Speaker 5 (02:39:40):
Just you got a disease, boy, you got a disease.
And they come, we won't go there, walked they give you.

Speaker 20 (02:39:52):
And you you'll just go a rybody and George right
over him and you walked side just because the fact
you think somebody old you so nobody.

Speaker 4 (02:40:03):
Oh no, I love it.

Speaker 5 (02:40:09):
One Downy Jr. Is sitting there right now, like I
don't gotta say nothing. This is the great t The
TV is just creating itself at this point.

Speaker 4 (02:40:18):
Probably got a fifteen share.

Speaker 20 (02:40:19):
That night, the times that I would have got in myself.

Speaker 12 (02:40:21):
Why didn't you do it?

Speaker 20 (02:40:22):
Because of an individual just like you.

Speaker 19 (02:40:25):
I was on the first match that night, Baby Atlanta, Georgia,
nineteen and seventy eight, and you walked out.

Speaker 20 (02:40:32):
You didn't show up.

Speaker 7 (02:40:33):
Wow, you want to hold them up?

Speaker 5 (02:40:38):
Also talking about Jim Barnett.

Speaker 4 (02:40:40):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (02:40:41):
This is also a Jim Barnett story. Wow, Jim Ynette
really pissed a lot of people off. Huh, you gotta
know you're turning.

Speaker 6 (02:40:54):
Let me hit from that.

Speaker 8 (02:40:57):
A couple of you walk out?

Speaker 12 (02:40:59):
Why did you walk out?

Speaker 20 (02:41:00):
I say one thing.

Speaker 23 (02:41:01):
Before me walk I walked out because my money wasn't
right and they wasn't cheating.

Speaker 19 (02:41:05):
You got in here.

Speaker 5 (02:41:10):
He's mocking him now like he's Statler and Waldorf old
that he was his his first met in the town.

Speaker 20 (02:41:18):
Now, how in the hill did he know so much
about it?

Speaker 5 (02:41:21):
Hey bear, they're saying, they're saying the money isn't right
because it left door.

Speaker 6 (02:41:29):
I got going.

Speaker 20 (02:41:31):
I worked the first match and then I was up
on the talk.

Speaker 6 (02:41:35):
But the guy.

Speaker 20 (02:41:38):
It paid USTe what you say he paid his due?

Speaker 6 (02:41:41):
That's Ladder.

Speaker 4 (02:41:45):
Patterson du.

Speaker 5 (02:41:48):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure thought about Patterson paid his dues. Yeah,
I'm assuming his career was not an easy one, being
a black wrestler in the seventies like sixties.

Speaker 4 (02:42:06):
Nobody knows what's going on.

Speaker 5 (02:42:09):
Okay, at this point, it's just large men screaming at
each other.

Speaker 6 (02:42:14):
What's what I got to do with that first guy
getting you know, propositions?

Speaker 18 (02:42:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:42:20):
Yeah, I want to go back to this guy in
Jim Barnett's you know, dressing room.

Speaker 7 (02:42:24):
Yeah, introduce you.

Speaker 12 (02:42:27):
Let me introduce you to the world's strongest man.

Speaker 5 (02:42:29):
All right, all right, you know, I think that might
be a good part to leave it off. We'll bringing
in a new character now, No, dang, you goes.

Speaker 6 (02:42:40):
Alright, I want to watch this whole thing. I don't
watch this whole thing.

Speaker 5 (02:42:48):
All right, let's forever. Let's watch a little bit more.

Speaker 19 (02:42:58):
World.

Speaker 12 (02:43:00):
As the critics will say tomorrow when they saw him
carrying in one hundred and eighty pounds load of Okay,
I'm sure we will beat that out for you, folks.
Let me ask you a question. You competed at the
highest levels, are right a body building and now wrestling.
Have you encountered a prejudice against performers because of the

(02:43:21):
color of their skin? And have you been alert to
see if that prejudice is out there? Because there is prejudice? Okay,
I'm college educated.

Speaker 4 (02:43:28):
All right, let me just drop a few names.

Speaker 6 (02:43:30):
Prejudice.

Speaker 5 (02:43:31):
No, what does he have to say that he's college educated,
because that's what you did. I'm smart. Everybody, Yeah, everybody
was fraid out.

Speaker 20 (02:43:44):
I'm not anybody Tony.

Speaker 24 (02:43:46):
Alice, anybody ever heard nasty jokes?

Speaker 7 (02:43:53):
Anybody Rocky Johnson.

Speaker 8 (02:43:58):
He'sable themes who were never world champion.

Speaker 7 (02:44:04):
Talk for you idiots who have talked intensively since then
about being having prejudiced against the right.

Speaker 5 (02:44:12):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 6 (02:44:14):
This is like U fucking New York Times is like,
like you headline, is wrestling really racist? We found two
white guys with mullets to ask, you know, I.

Speaker 7 (02:44:26):
Think I cracked the code. Here is this before after
WrestleMania five?

Speaker 5 (02:44:32):
This has gotta be before, right. I thought it was
eighty nine, though that could be that a bounty hunter,
So definitely if this is.

Speaker 7 (02:44:42):
After five, I could absolutely see Piper telling Morton Downey Jr.
I got this guy, you gotta bean, he'd be great
on your show. And then that's how this happened. That
is just doctor d yelling at people set him up.
That's absolutely see that happen.

Speaker 1 (02:45:01):
Oh God, here we go.

Speaker 24 (02:45:03):
Anybody ever heard anybody ever heard Rocky Johnson?

Speaker 20 (02:45:10):
I think this guy should have paid attention more in school.
You would have been in a better business. Look look here,
let me explain something.

Speaker 8 (02:45:16):
You muscle off just because you got you went over
into the official, and I mean that ain't love for people.

Speaker 5 (02:45:22):
People do this to keV all the time. They're like, oh,
muscle man like it's like it like it's a like
like it like it's an insult, like like you accidentally
acquired those muscles. It's one of my it's one of
my favorite stupid insults.

Speaker 20 (02:45:38):
That's the whole thing. You got to know how to wrestle,
and you got to know how to draw all the money.
You called throw, you called asked jon't you called individual,
just like we have in the country today. That go
along with any day I'm playing the gold Yeah. Yeah,

(02:46:00):
we're all heavyweight tag team champions, both of them.

Speaker 6 (02:46:03):
But you didn't make it a chance.

Speaker 20 (02:46:05):
Just like you, they started working out.

Speaker 5 (02:46:09):
I will point out only one w W Hall of
Famer on this stage right now happens to be him. Yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 20 (02:46:19):
Way I gave away.

Speaker 6 (02:46:27):
Going on the gay.

Speaker 20 (02:46:30):
Oh wait, I gave away more bails and both.

Speaker 5 (02:46:33):
By the way, let's look at this crowd behind him
right now. It's just the white sea. Like I think
there's like one black guy like right here.

Speaker 4 (02:46:40):
Like all Howards.

Speaker 5 (02:46:41):
Yeah, yeah, you're not getting a uh you're not You're
not getting a resounding like, yeah, no, both.

Speaker 20 (02:46:53):
Of you fellas probably a behave.

Speaker 7 (02:47:00):
Only gave away.

Speaker 20 (02:47:01):
You ain't never gave nothing away. You'll never give nothing
first place. You ain't never had nothing to give away.

Speaker 4 (02:47:20):
Before anybody in that crowd knew that that was uh uh.

Speaker 5 (02:47:25):
They is that ray trailer jumping up right there? Like
are these wrestlers right here jumping.

Speaker 6 (02:47:30):
Up like the big guys?

Speaker 5 (02:47:32):
Yeah, oh yeah, I remember.

Speaker 8 (02:47:35):
It might be fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure they got
in the watchers or trailer.

Speaker 20 (02:47:45):
He said something there.

Speaker 19 (02:47:47):
I was in a pulmonary match in Greenville, South Carolina
when this man was on top and he wouldn't even
talk to me and the captain.

Speaker 20 (02:47:54):
He was a top hot shot, made event, die made a.

Speaker 19 (02:47:58):
Captain got six bits and they don't understan and six
bits that's seventy five dollars.

Speaker 5 (02:48:02):
And so we got and.

Speaker 19 (02:48:03):
Talked about Patterson was the main event guy. Come in
ten minutes before show time and he looked at the
pulimin emy boy.

Speaker 5 (02:48:10):
And he said, who the mack's this guy?

Speaker 7 (02:48:15):
I guess he's a friend of Captain Lou. I know
Captain Lou's there, so.

Speaker 20 (02:48:20):
I ain't working here tonight, I said, yes, Sir Hawaiian,
I shook his hand. I didn't care if he was black, green, yellow, oranger,
whatever color.

Speaker 12 (02:48:27):
He might be.

Speaker 19 (02:48:28):
I had a tough timepy what you show chand with
me like that, and your damn colored me the damn
thing you are.

Speaker 20 (02:48:39):
You are a bit of the ship hands game.

Speaker 2 (02:48:42):
I mean that.

Speaker 5 (02:48:47):
I think it's very nice to meet you. The pleasure
is all man, it sure is.

Speaker 7 (02:48:56):
Tony Altimore. He was tag team partners with Captain.

Speaker 5 (02:48:59):
Okay, drunkenntil like.

Speaker 20 (02:49:01):
But she'll tell you the same Stridan. Okay, they are
not president twenty years down. I've spent twenty years in
professional rest. Twenty eight right here, you spent eight more than.

Speaker 5 (02:49:19):
A day's pushing him away. Now, it's like, all right,
get out of here. This is a mistake.

Speaker 4 (02:49:28):
Too much agreement, a whole lot of out here.

Speaker 2 (02:49:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:49:36):
Wait, what is happening right now?

Speaker 2 (02:49:38):
Who knows.

Speaker 5 (02:49:42):
What the guys let's make.

Speaker 4 (02:49:45):
Up back there.

Speaker 5 (02:49:47):
Yes, Paul Stanley's in the audience.

Speaker 7 (02:49:51):
Lynch going on.

Speaker 5 (02:49:54):
Right, All right, that's a good place to stop, they said.
I think they just said, Sidney Lover and Captain the
Lolbano coming up next. That'll be where we pick up
next week. Guys, Holy heck.

Speaker 4 (02:50:11):
I can't believe they showed my phone number right there.

Speaker 5 (02:50:16):
Super chat gaming while we were having fun. Colin Tailor
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I am a weeb and it takes one to know one,
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You're the reason why this can continue to work, why

(02:50:38):
this continue can continue to grow. You guys, in your generosity,
I would drive this. You are the You are the
fuel and the power that drive this channel. Thank you
so very much. All Right, gentlemen, that about does it
for tonight. Anything anybody want to add anything else?

Speaker 2 (02:50:52):
And I do?

Speaker 13 (02:50:55):
Okay, awful seriously shout out to Brad Becker. Yeah, okay, yes,
he is a wonderful human being a fan of the show.
We're big fans of his and we're rooting for you, buddy.

Speaker 7 (02:51:11):
Yeah, he's doing good. It looks absolutely good. Yeah, can
I do the contest? Real quick.

Speaker 5 (02:51:17):
Oh yes, yes, just talk, give yeah, give the whole spiel.

Speaker 7 (02:51:21):
Okay. So old timers like myself might remember playing a
game called Extreme Warfare Revenge back in the early two thousands.
It was a free booking sim. The creator of that
game went on to work for a company called Great
Dog Software and they have developed a game called Total
Extreme Warfare that is basically a more fleshed out version
of that. People in the UK, if you played games

(02:51:44):
like Football Manager, think about that, but for professional wrestling.
It is a very detailed booking sim. This isn't like
GM mode on two K on two K. This is
a you go in and you get in the nitty gritty,
But we actually have a copy to give away. So
we're gonna be giving that away next week. If you

(02:52:04):
are subscribed to this channel and you leave a comment
under this episode that mentions just a tew or I
want the game, anything like that, we will put you
a little drawing and select it out and we will
give that copy a code away next week thirty five
dollars values, so not too shabby. And then I think
we're gonna be playing it a little bit amongst ourselves

(02:52:25):
here in the next few weeks and kind of talking
about it. So play along with us at home that way,
and support the guys at Great Dog Software. They supplied
us with the copy, so big shout out to them.

Speaker 5 (02:52:37):
Thank you guys so much. Aunt Evans, thank you very
much for joining us tonight. We always love having you here.
You know, you're always welcome. Every week, I'm gonna just
send you the I just send you the link every week.
Whenever you want to join, you join, so pleasure anyway,
anything you want to promote, or anything you want to
plug to the people at home.

Speaker 6 (02:52:54):
No, no, I'm good, all good work. At the end
of the show, I just I just.

Speaker 5 (02:53:02):
Wonder it's just you know, no, you know what No,
I mean, I've plugged. I plugged my channels on ww
pro and I get massive returns from that.

Speaker 7 (02:53:12):
So yeah, we're about to cross We're about to cross
one hundred members in discord from plugging at the end
of the show. And you know that's pretty good, yep.

Speaker 5 (02:53:19):
And if you want to join that discord, just how
do you do about doing that?

Speaker 7 (02:53:22):
I'll find me on Twitter at a w discplinary. The
code the invite is in my profile.

Speaker 5 (02:53:28):
And you seem like like you're just processing everything we
just watched process.

Speaker 4 (02:53:34):
That's what now.

Speaker 6 (02:53:34):
I'm just thinking, like, there's a better way of doing this.
I'll talk to you tomorrow. We could, we should, we
should be plugging stuff like this throughout the show on
the cards.

Speaker 5 (02:53:44):
Okay, that makes a lot of sense about what.

Speaker 6 (02:53:47):
It takes such half of me to think. You can
see it happening behind me.

Speaker 4 (02:53:50):
You were turning red, bro.

Speaker 6 (02:53:54):
It's a thought.

Speaker 7 (02:53:56):
It's breaking right right here, live.

Speaker 5 (02:53:58):
On it right of course. Oh my goodness, you guys
are want you got use. You guys are watching the
strategy sessions that go on behind the scenes and is
a vital pot of both Tonytown Wrestling and Tonytown TV.
So you know, if you guys are enjoying the content
that's been going up daily over on Tonytown TV, you
got Anne Evans to thank for it. He's been Uh,
he's not.

Speaker 6 (02:54:17):
That much to do with it.

Speaker 5 (02:54:19):
You've got a lot to you keep me, you keep
me on the on the track that needs to be kept.

Speaker 4 (02:54:23):
I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (02:54:24):
And Awful Awful Wrestling, You've got so much to say.
Where can people find more about you?

Speaker 13 (02:54:31):
Awful Wrestling on x or as the Old People say Twitter, tomorrow,
we are going to have a little five minute diddy
bop video for you guys.

Speaker 4 (02:54:41):
Me and this have collaborated and I hope you enjoy it.
Let me know what you guys think.

Speaker 5 (02:54:47):
And I hope for your sake that the major announcement
isn't something that's gonna make you look dumb. Oh the video.
I've seen the video and it's a so I can't
wait for more people to see it. We got Tony
Talk TV coming up on on Thursday night, eight pm.
We're gonna be joined by our friend just Frish. We're

(02:55:09):
gonna have a huge, you know, panel of pop culture
experts to uh, you know, to hang around with. So
I'm very excited for that, aren't you.

Speaker 6 (02:55:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:55:19):
Always Thursday's, Thursday and Tuesday are my favorite nights of
the week. Get the yeah, sit down and wax philosophic
abou about nonsense.

Speaker 5 (02:55:29):
Things, not the nonsense that we all love. All right?

Speaker 6 (02:55:32):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:55:32):
And of course you know was ag Apollo on x
A ACW Coliseum.

Speaker 6 (02:55:37):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:55:37):
Anything else you want to get out there, keV No,
I didn't think so. All right, all right, folks, thank
you so much for joining us again this and every
Tuesday night. We appreciate you guys. Check out the Headlock
headlines at seven am hopefully tomorrow. With the second this
show ends, I have to get right back to editing
and actually filming the Don thing because scripting took so long.
But thank you guys so much for all of us

(02:55:59):
here at the Tuny ten showinals. I'm mob in the
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Tony Khan's Major Announcement, Olympic Pro Wrestling, & More!

On Purpose with Jay Shetty