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August 11, 2025 3 mins
In this humorous podcast episode, hosts Alex and Jamie debate city architecture and spiral into a playful conspiracy theory about pigeons being government surveillance drones. Jamie claims pigeons are everywhere, never seen as babies, and use city statues as lookout posts, while Alex tries to steer the conversation back to urban design. Expect witty banter, wild ideas, and plenty of laughs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to totally on topic today's burning question. Are
pigeons just city wildlife or the world's most committed undercover agents? Jamie,
you seem convinced they're running the show.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Alex, I'm just saying, if pigeons are in spies, why
do they show up every time I drop a crumb? Coincidence?
Or are their tiny beady eyes feeding intel back to
the mother coop?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
So you're suggesting every time I eat a sandwich in
the park, a secret pigeon task force is logging my
mayo to meat ratio for some shadowy sandwich database.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Exactly. The Bureau of Avian Intelligence BAI needs that data.
I mean, have you ever seen a pigeon taking notes?
Of course not, that's what the Queen is coded messages.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I guess it's more subtle than a guy in a
trench coat with binoculars. But if pigeons are so advanced,
why do they walk like they're wearing invisible clown shoes.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's all part of their cover. He suspects a spy
that waddles genius. Really, Plus, it's hard to run a
covert operation when you're drawing attention with jazz hands.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Let's dig deeper. You say pigeons are government drone. So
where are all the baby pigeons? I mean, even Google
can't find a clear photo.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Exactly, Alex. No one has ever seen a baby pigeon.
That's because when they're not surveiling us, they're recharging at
secret stations, probably disguised as subway WiFi auters.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
So you're telling me the next time my phone connects
to free city Wi Fi, I'm actually stealing bandwidth from
a squad of juvenile robobirds.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's right. And have you noticed subway tunnels are always
full of mysterious cooing. That's the sound of firmware updates.
You don't want a buggy pigeon spying on your lunch plans.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Honestly, if pigeons are getting software updates, I hope they
fix the glitch that makes them walk into oncoming feet.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
That just lag. Even pigeons get the spinning wheel of
doom sometimes if only they had fiber optic feathers.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Moving on, uclaim architecture is designed for maximum pigeon surveillance.
Explain how city skylines play into the Great Feathered Conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Look at any city scape statues, ledges, even those weird
decorative spikes supposedly artistic, No Alex, those are pigeon penthouses,
prime real estate for peeping on the populace.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
So Michelangelo wasn't just sculpting David. He was creating the
Renaissance's first Avian security camera mount exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And let's not forget gargoyles, half demon, half bird bath,
all surveillance. Every time you walk past a cathedral, just
remember it's not God watching, it's Gary the gargoyle pigeon.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I suppose next you'll say, those anti pigeon spikes are
actually just vip rope lines to keep out the riffraff birds.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
You crack the code, only top level agents get past
the velvet rope, usually the ones with the shiniest feathers
in the best poker face.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Let's talk tech. With all our cameras and facial recognition,
why would the government need pigeons for surveillance. Isn't that
like buying a horse when you already own a ferrari.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's the genius. Cameras are obvious, everyone spots a CCTV,
but pigeons just blend in. They're the original incognito mode. Plus,
if you spot a pigeon, you can't sue for invasion
of privacy.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
So you're saying pigeons are the ultimate plausible deniability tool, Like, sorry, sir,
that bird recording you was acting.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Alone exactly, And if all else fails, they can always
poop on the evidence. It's nature's delete button. Even Edward
Snowden can't out haack that.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
And with that, I'm officially putting my sandwich in a
safe But before we fly the coop, any final thoughts
on pigeons and city planning.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Just remember, next time you see a pigeon on a statue,
don't wave. You might accidentally trigger a government bread drop.
Stay vigilant, and maybe wear a hat.
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