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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So did you watch Carrie and Cross his interview with
Ariel Hajuane.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm going to share a secret here.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Okay, not not as big as not as big as mine?
Right yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna top that in this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Sure I might not top that ever, right?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yes, I uh? I hate Arielhwane, do you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And look here's the thing. Here's Oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I remember. Now this is coming back to me.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yes, why I disliked the man?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yes, you spoiled the surprise for UFC two hundred. Yeah,
you you spoiled it, and then you went on air
and cried when you lost your press credentials.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
M no, you should have lost your press credentials. What again?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
The chain of timing in that has always been a
bit iffy, and for those that don't know, basically, the
big reveal for UFC two hundred was brock Lessner's coming back.
The day they were gonna do the reveal, which was
another UFC pay per view, Ariel Hawane uh. The afternoon
(01:24):
of the pay per view drops the bombshell on Twitter
now known as X that brock Lesner is returning, expected
to be revealed tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
What was it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Uh, I'm remembering this a little bit differently, but but
I'll defer to you if if I have this wrong,
because you you, I.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Could have it wrong as well, because it was.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I didn't think it was that afternoon. I thought it
was during the event, but it was right before it
was happening. It was just a few minutes before it
was happening.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's ruining the I don't know, but basically, Dana White
revoked Ariel Howane's press credential, which, for those of you
that don't know, in journalism, if you lose your press credentials,
and like it would be like a political beat writer
(02:11):
losing their White House press room credentials, like Jim Acosta.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, it's a career killer.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But Dana, and in my opinion rightfully so was like
you cost you could have cost us millions with this, Yeah,
and him and Ariel had to that point had a
contentious at best relationship. Now it's eventually, like a few
(02:44):
days later, his press credentials were given back, but it's
been very contentious with him and Dana ever since, to
the point that I think Ariel is very anti USC
just because he's anti Dana White, which for me, as
a journalist, that's wrong. Like on this show we discussed
(03:05):
pro wrestling. For us to have a bias is okay
to a degree, but Arielhwanies is just disgusting. During the pandemic,
he bashed Dana for Fight Island and everything else, and
it's like, well, no, this man's trying to return a
sense of normalcy and he's actually taking major precautions to
(03:31):
ensure the safety of his athletes.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah. I thought the whole Fight Island thing was a
little weird myself, but I don't I don't want to
get that's a whole other sidetrack. But but yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's like Dana White can do no right.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I guarantee you this White House card that is
coming July fourth, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, oh, I've intrigued now the chuckle.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know how, I don't want to bring politics into
this show if I can help it, But you know how,
I just generally feel about Hey, I'm wed. I'm in
a weird place now because Kiss is being inducted by
you know who into the Kennedy Center. Kiss is my
favorite band. I'm real for them. But then it's like,
oh my god, Like how am I supposed to feel
about this under these circumstances, it's crazy, right, So I
(04:24):
guess I guess it's impossible to avoid politics.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I love the idea of a UFC fight card at
the White House.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Okay, yeah, I look as someone that's loved the sport
to remember back when senators were putting it on its deathbed.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh yeah, John McCain Anti John McCain. Two.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Now we're talking about having a card at the White House. Yeah, Like,
this is amazing. I'm all for it, as long as
the right security measures are taken.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Sure, all right?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Why you hate?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You hate Ariel Hawani? Is your like?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm a journalist. I have a degree in journalism as
a journalist. He acted like an idiot crying on air
about losing his credentials. I'm not going away. I'm gonna fight. No,
you're crying like a bitch that ain't fighting. You fucked up,
(05:29):
own it. You knew what you were doing is wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You knew you knew that you were gonna piss off
Dana White.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And if you didn't know, you're a jack dick moron
to begin with.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You already knew you had a bad relationship with.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Dana, so why rock the boat and play the victim card.
I have had press credentials for three UFC events, three
actual UFC events. In all three of them, I've actually
talked to Dana personally, albeit for five to ten minutes.
(06:10):
One of the nicest guys ever. Okay, the UFC is
great to the press. Like, keep in mind, one time
i went I wrote for a community college newspaper. The
other two times i went I wrote for a magazine
called Taekwondo Times that was a.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Regional magaz quarterly regional magazine publication out of Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I was treated as if I was Kevin Ioli from
Yahoo Sports all three times. Yeah, like by the Fighters,
by Dana, by.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
By Jennifer Wink who at the time was their media coordinator.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So they run its first class the whole way.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And in their requirements that it is listed that you
may learn some information that we do not really want
release to the public until a certain time.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I'm guessing that that did not change, right, So Ariel
Hawani was in violation of that. When you accept your credentials,
you are told a violation of zufa's rules could lead
to revocation of press credentials, so he knew and knowing
(07:43):
that you don't have the best relationship with Dana White.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Again, why do it?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Just he's a dumbass and people love him, and more
power to him. He I did love of his interview
with CM punk he didn't returned. There are interviews I
like of him, but anything just I think sometimes he's.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
A clout chaser. Okay, okay, And there it is.
So did you watch Carrie and Cross his interview with
Ariel Hajuane.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm going to share a secret here.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Okay, not not as big as not as big as mine?
Right yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna top that in this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Sure I might not top that ever, right?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yes, I uh? I hate Arielhwane, do you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And look here's the thing. Here's Oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I remember. Now this is coming back to me.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yes, why I disliked the man?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yes, you spoiled the surprise for UFC two hundred. Yeah,
you you spoiled it, and then you went on air
and cried when you lost your press credentials.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
M no, you should have lost your press credentials. What again?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
The chain of timing in that has always been a
bit iffy, and for those that don't know, basically, the
big reveal for UFC two hundred was brock Lessner's coming back.
The day they were gonna do the reveal, which was
another UFC pay per view, Ariel Hawane uh. The afternoon
(01:24):
of the pay per view drops the bombshell on Twitter
now known as X that brock Lesner is returning, expected
to be revealed tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
What was it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Uh, I'm remembering this a little bit differently, but but
I'll defer to you if if I have this wrong,
because you you, I.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Could have it wrong as well, because it was.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I didn't think it was that afternoon. I thought it
was during the event, but it was right before it
was happening. It was just a few minutes before it
was happening.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's ruining the I don't know, but basically, Dana White
revoked Ariel Howane's press credential, which, for those of you
that don't know, in journalism, if you lose your press credentials,
and like it would be like a political beat writer
(02:11):
losing their White House press room credentials, like Jim Acosta.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, it's a career killer.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But Dana, and in my opinion rightfully so was like
you cost you could have cost us millions with this, Yeah,
and him and Ariel had to that point had a
contentious at best relationship. Now it's eventually, like a few
(02:44):
days later, his press credentials were given back, but it's
been very contentious with him and Dana ever since, to
the point that I think Ariel is very anti USC
just because he's anti Dana White, which for me, as
a journalist, that's wrong. Like on this show we discussed
(03:05):
pro wrestling. For us to have a bias is okay
to a degree, but Arielhwanies is just disgusting. During the pandemic,
he bashed Dana for Fight Island and everything else, and
it's like, well, no, this man's trying to return a
sense of normalcy and he's actually taking major precautions to
(03:31):
ensure the safety of his athletes.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah. I thought the whole Fight Island thing was a
little weird myself, but I don't I don't want to
get that's a whole other sidetrack. But but yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's like Dana White can do no right.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I guarantee you this White House card that is
coming July fourth, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, oh, I've intrigued now the chuckle.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know how, I don't want to bring politics into
this show if I can help it, But you know how,
I just generally feel about Hey, I'm wed. I'm in
a weird place now because Kiss is being inducted by
you know who into the Kennedy Center. Kiss is my
favorite band. I'm real for them. But then it's like,
oh my god, Like how am I supposed to feel
about this under these circumstances, it's crazy, right, So I
(04:24):
guess I guess it's impossible to avoid politics.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I love the idea of a UFC fight card at
the White House.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Okay, yeah, I look as someone that's loved the sport
to remember back when senators were putting it on its deathbed.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh yeah, John McCain Anti John McCain. Two.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Now we're talking about having a card at the White House. Yeah, Like,
this is amazing. I'm all for it, as long as
the right security measures are taken.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Sure, all right?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Why you hate?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You hate Ariel Hawani? Is your like?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm a journalist. I have a degree in journalism as
a journalist. He acted like an idiot crying on air
about losing his credentials. I'm not going away. I'm gonna fight. No,
you're crying like a bitch that ain't fighting. You fucked up,
(05:29):
own it. You knew what you were doing is wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You knew you knew that you were gonna piss off
Dana White.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And if you didn't know, you're a jack dick moron
to begin with.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You already knew you had a bad relationship with.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Dana, so why rock the boat and play the victim card.
I have had press credentials for three UFC events, three
actual UFC events. In all three of them, I've actually
talked to Dana personally, albeit for five to ten minutes.
(06:10):
One of the nicest guys ever. Okay, the UFC is
great to the press. Like, keep in mind, one time
i went I wrote for a community college newspaper. The
other two times i went I wrote for a magazine
called Taekwondo Times that was a.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Regional magaz quarterly regional magazine publication out of Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I was treated as if I was Kevin Ioli from
Yahoo Sports all three times. Yeah, like by the Fighters,
by Dana, by.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
By Jennifer Wink who at the time was their media coordinator.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So they run its first class the whole way.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And in their requirements that it is listed that you
may learn some information that we do not really want
release to the public until a certain time.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I'm guessing that that did not change, right, So Ariel
Hawani was in violation of that. When you accept your credentials,
you are told a violation of zufa's rules could lead
to revocation of press credentials, so he knew and knowing
(07:43):
that you don't have the best relationship with Dana White.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Again, why do it?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Just he's a dumbass and people love him, and more
power to him. He I did love of his interview
with CM punk he didn't returned. There are interviews I
like of him, but anything just I think sometimes he's.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
A clout chaser. Okay, okay, And there it is.
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