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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What was also so interesting about it to me at
the time was so Cody Rhodes after leaving, So he
leaves WWE. He was tired of being Stardust.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Fill this in for me because you have a better
memory for these details than I do. Was his contract
up and he just didn't want to resign? Or did
he ask for his release and they gave him his release?
Do you remember he asked.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
For his release and it was granted under the caveat
he could not use the name Cody Rhodes.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Right, which he interestingly enough though, he went on social
media and claimed that he could. I don't know if
you remember this detail. I thought it was strange at
the time. After Dusty passed away, Cody posted, I think
it was I might have been Twitter. He said, I
own the name Roads. I was with him from the
beginning to the end, or something like that, which everybody
(00:53):
kind of knew wasn't legally technically true, but he was
making that claim. But then, of course, you know, once
a w started and he went there, he didn't use
the name Roads, just like he did not on the
Independent Circuit because he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He was just Cody. He was just Cody, but.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So so he had left. He was he was tired
of being Stardust. I actually thought, how did you feel
about the STARTUS character?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I actually liked it?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Drizzling shit?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You didn't like it? I actually I liked it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But but they should have pivoted once it had run
its course and they didn't seem to want to.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Drizzling, riddling, drizzling shit.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Cody wanted to pivot, but they didn't want to pivot.
Why why didn't What was there anything specific?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Cartoony? It was comical.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It was dumb, just like even okay, even before start
Us you could see see Cody Roads had ability.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Sure, it just was untapped.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And we we said it some many times before, like
Jim Ross says, sometimes you have to.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Go learn a new hold.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I think Cody when he went to the Independence betting
on himself, he really, you know, came into his own Yeah.
And I think that's very important for the audience to know.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But do you did you object to Stardust in terms
of like, would you have preferred they do something more
short term or would you prefer that they had not
done done it at all?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I didn't want him do it at all? I thought
it was dumb. I I you know, I liked it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I thought it was cool. I popped for it at first,
I did.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I can't tell if you're I can't help if the
screen is frozen or you're just in shock.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Never admit that again. I did the first time he
came out of start it. No no, no no no no
no no, don't. Let's move on. Yeah, I don't want
you to.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You bear your wrestling sins here, like I've committed some
sins in wrestling, like a major ones, like I've popped
for some ship I shouldn't have popped for. Well, there
was a time on Raw that they're they're like a
major guy is a major star is coming back? I
thought it was Chris Jericho. The lights went out in
(03:22):
the arena and I popped and it was the Mizz Yeah,
I popped. I marked out for the Miz.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Sure, so.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah, you but you willingly admitted I did.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I liked it.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I did, just don't the.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Cartwheel and everything. I like the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I thought it was fun, the whole some bang I
did for the whole kit, the whole kit and kabu
I did.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I like the whole thing. I thought it was cool.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I I like the weird things he would say that
didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I like the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I don't even know you anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I know, right, I just I'm sitting here and I'm like,
I don't know Matt Connerton.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Maybe that's not even my real name. Maybe my real
name is Pat Monerton for all you know.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Maybe it is Matt Covington.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Maybe it is or Matt Connington or yeah, yeah, but no.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I liked it, but I do think it went on
too long, and there should have been a There should
have been a pivot.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
There should have been an.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Angle where he he where he says I've had enough
of this or something.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
They could have done something, but instead they just let
it go on.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And he talked about it when he first left Wwe
talked about, you know, he went on podcasts and talked
about how like he had all these ideas and he
would go into a room to talk to one of
the writers and they would say, you know, they would
brush him off.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They would say, oh, you know, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm too busy to talk to you about what we're
gonna do with your character. And he even told the
story you've probably heard him tell it. He he walked
into a room to talk to one of the writers,
and the writer was pretending to be busy typing something
on his laptop, and Cody could actually see from where
he was standing that the computer wasn't even on, and
it was like they were just they were just brushing
(05:15):
him off, giving him the uh oh, Miriam vanishes in
the chatterman, says Matt Calmington. Yes, that was That's why
some of my hypnotherapy clients call me Matt Calmington.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Calmingtons.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, maybe you're not Calmington when you sit here and say, oh,
I popped for stardust.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Maybe I was hypnotized by stardust. So I'm pretty sure
he had that ability.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You were hypnotized by shit apparently.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well that's fine, swizzling shit, but uh shit everywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But he wanted to pivot, and they wouldn't work with him.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I would want to pivot too if I was served
a turned sandwich right right, like I would pivot from
a turned sandwich to cold ramen. Like what do we know?
Of course he wanted to pivot.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I gotta find a picture of stardust for people who
don't know what we're talking about. I mean, I assume
most people who are enjoying this podcast, it.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Was it was it was maybe a smidge better than
Dashing Cody Roads.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Now see I liked that too, because I thought I
just thought.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It was kind of funny.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Well everyone, it's been a fun ride.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But you didn't like dash You didn't like Dashing Cody.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Roads or him with just like mustache ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
See, I thought those were funny because he seemed to have, uh,
he seemed to have an ability to play those characters.
But but that was But that's the thing, though they
should have so because he had proven himself. There he
is in all his glory, their stardust.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I know. But because he had proven himself. Because here's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
He no matter what he did, whether it was Stardust,
whether it was Dashy Cody Roads, whatever, whatever they gave
him to do, he always applied himself and did his
very best. He you know, he had his dad's philosophy
on that. You know, Dusty when he went to WWF
and they Evince put him in the polka dots, and
Dusty said, Okay, I'm going to get this over, you know,
and he did sort of. I mean, nobody the truth
(07:25):
that he gave about the Poka Doots. He just cared
because he was Dusty Rhodes and he was going to
be over no matter what. But Cody, you know, he
threw himself in everything he was given, including Stardust and
Dashing Cody Rhoads. But that should have proven to them
that he could do whatever. So if he wants to pivot,
then maybe you listen to him and you and you pivot.
(07:46):
And they didn't want to work with him.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, I mean, I give Cody credit that he worked
hard at it, and you could tell he worked hard
at it.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It just was not.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I got rid of him for you, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
But eventually hard work just doesn't pay off if this
is what you're given.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, that's it. Brass
tacks
What was also so interesting about it to me at
the time was so Cody Rhodes after leaving, So he
leaves WWE. He was tired of being Stardust.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Fill this in for me because you have a better
memory for these details than I do. Was his contract
up and he just didn't want to resign? Or did
he ask for his release and they gave him his release?
Do you remember he asked.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
For his release and it was granted under the caveat
he could not use the name Cody Rhodes.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Right, which he interestingly enough though, he went on social
media and claimed that he could. I don't know if
you remember this detail. I thought it was strange at
the time. After Dusty passed away, Cody posted, I think
it was I might have been Twitter. He said, I
own the name Roads. I was with him from the
beginning to the end, or something like that, which everybody
(00:53):
kind of knew wasn't legally technically true, but he was
making that claim. But then, of course, you know, once
a w started and he went there, he didn't use
the name Roads, just like he did not on the
Independent Circuit because he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He was just Cody. He was just Cody, but.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So so he had left. He was he was tired
of being Stardust. I actually thought, how did you feel
about the STARTUS character?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I actually liked it?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Drizzling shit?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You didn't like it? I actually I liked it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But but they should have pivoted once it had run
its course and they didn't seem to want to.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Drizzling, riddling, drizzling shit.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Cody wanted to pivot, but they didn't want to pivot.
Why why didn't What was there anything specific?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Cartoony? It was comical.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It was dumb, just like even okay, even before start
Us you could see see Cody Roads had ability.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Sure, it just was untapped.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And we we said it some many times before, like
Jim Ross says, sometimes you have to.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Go learn a new hold.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I think Cody when he went to the Independence betting
on himself, he really, you know, came into his own Yeah.
And I think that's very important for the audience to know.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But do you did you object to Stardust in terms
of like, would you have preferred they do something more
short term or would you prefer that they had not
done done it at all?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I didn't want him do it at all? I thought
it was dumb. I I you know, I liked it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I thought it was cool. I popped for it at first,
I did.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I can't tell if you're I can't help if the
screen is frozen or you're just in shock.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Never admit that again. I did the first time he
came out of start it. No no, no no no no
no no, don't. Let's move on. Yeah, I don't want
you to.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You bear your wrestling sins here, like I've committed some
sins in wrestling, like a major ones, like I've popped
for some ship I shouldn't have popped for. Well, there
was a time on Raw that they're they're like a
major guy is a major star is coming back? I
thought it was Chris Jericho. The lights went out in
(03:22):
the arena and I popped and it was the Mizz Yeah,
I popped. I marked out for the Miz.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Sure, so.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah, you but you willingly admitted I did.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I liked it.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I did, just don't the.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Cartwheel and everything. I like the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I thought it was fun, the whole some bang I
did for the whole kit, the whole kit and kabu
I did.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I like the whole thing. I thought it was cool.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I I like the weird things he would say that
didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I like the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I don't even know you anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I know, right, I just I'm sitting here and I'm like,
I don't know Matt Connerton.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Maybe that's not even my real name. Maybe my real
name is Pat Monerton for all you know.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Maybe it is Matt Covington.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Maybe it is or Matt Connington or yeah, yeah, but no.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I liked it, but I do think it went on
too long, and there should have been a There should
have been a pivot.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
There should have been an.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Angle where he he where he says I've had enough
of this or something.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
They could have done something, but instead they just let
it go on.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And he talked about it when he first left Wwe
talked about, you know, he went on podcasts and talked
about how like he had all these ideas and he
would go into a room to talk to one of
the writers and they would say, you know, they would
brush him off.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They would say, oh, you know, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm too busy to talk to you about what we're
gonna do with your character. And he even told the
story you've probably heard him tell it. He he walked
into a room to talk to one of the writers,
and the writer was pretending to be busy typing something
on his laptop, and Cody could actually see from where
he was standing that the computer wasn't even on, and
it was like they were just they were just brushing
(05:15):
him off, giving him the uh oh, Miriam vanishes in
the chatterman, says Matt Calmington. Yes, that was That's why
some of my hypnotherapy clients call me Matt Calmington.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Calmingtons.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, maybe you're not Calmington when you sit here and say, oh,
I popped for stardust.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Maybe I was hypnotized by stardust. So I'm pretty sure
he had that ability.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You were hypnotized by shit apparently.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well that's fine, swizzling shit, but uh shit everywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But he wanted to pivot, and they wouldn't work with him.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I would want to pivot too if I was served
a turned sandwich right right, like I would pivot from
a turned sandwich to cold ramen. Like what do we know?
Of course he wanted to pivot.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I gotta find a picture of stardust for people who
don't know what we're talking about. I mean, I assume
most people who are enjoying this podcast, it.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Was it was it was maybe a smidge better than
Dashing Cody Roads.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Now see I liked that too, because I thought I
just thought.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It was kind of funny.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Well everyone, it's been a fun ride.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But you didn't like dash You didn't like Dashing Cody.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Roads or him with just like mustache ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
See, I thought those were funny because he seemed to have, uh,
he seemed to have an ability to play those characters.
But but that was But that's the thing, though they
should have so because he had proven himself. There he
is in all his glory, their stardust.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I know. But because he had proven himself. Because here's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
He no matter what he did, whether it was Stardust,
whether it was Dashy Cody Roads, whatever, whatever they gave
him to do, he always applied himself and did his
very best. He you know, he had his dad's philosophy
on that. You know, Dusty when he went to WWF
and they Evince put him in the polka dots, and
Dusty said, Okay, I'm going to get this over, you know,
and he did sort of. I mean, nobody the truth
(07:25):
that he gave about the Poka Doots. He just cared
because he was Dusty Rhodes and he was going to
be over no matter what. But Cody, you know, he
threw himself in everything he was given, including Stardust and
Dashing Cody Rhoads. But that should have proven to them
that he could do whatever. So if he wants to pivot,
then maybe you listen to him and you and you pivot.
(07:46):
And they didn't want to work with him.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, I mean, I give Cody credit that he worked
hard at it, and you could tell he worked hard
at it.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It just was not.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I got rid of him for you, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
But eventually hard work just doesn't pay off if this
is what you're given.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, that's it. Brass
tacks
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