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August 11, 2025 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've got another individual to speak about. Uh, and he
was more, look at that, Look at that. That's a
face of Mother God.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Why do you do this to me?

Speaker 1 (00:10):
So so this is kind of old news, but we're
a little bit behind, and I have something to say
about this, and I suspect you might as well. Uh,
Bill Goldberg, will we'll, out of respect for Brett the
hit man heart, we'll call him Bill Goldberg instead of
Goldberg because you remember that that wonderful program that Brett

(00:32):
did where he repeatedly calls him Bill Goldberg and it's great.
So Goldberg wrestled his final match, his his his career
ending match on Saturday Night's main event against Gunther. Now
I want to talk about the match first, because I
know you despise Goldberg. I do not. I do not
share your hatred of him.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I don't hate him.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm sorry intense you have an intense, seething loathing for him.
Would that be more accurate?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
No, it's not even a loathing.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's just like, look, I'm gonna let you talk about
this story and then I'm gonna say my piece because
I think that's the best course of action here.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, all right, So you oh you want me to
go ahead? Okay, Yeah, So I want to talk about
the match first. I thought the match exceeded expectations.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, when the expectations are ten pounds of monkey shit
and a ziploc baggy, pretty easy to do.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, Listen, they went. They went fourteen minutes, which is
I want they had to right, But that's a long
time for Goldberg and fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Minutes it's a long time for a virgin on prominde,
are we gonna give him accolades too?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
But if that is though, that's a long time for
for for gold For a Goldberg gotch, that's a long time.
So that's a long time for Goldberg and at fifty
eight years old, that's an even longer time for Goldberg.
But I thought they had a pretty good match. I
thought it was good. But this leads into what I'm
disappointed with about Goldberg in a moment, and you probably

(02:09):
know where I'm going with this. I thought the match
was good. I thought Gunther did a great job. You know,
obviously Guntherer had to carry him, but Gunther Gunther is
one of those guys. He can go out there and
have a great match with anybody. You know, you're you're
never as Yeah, I mean, you know, Gunther is. Gunther
is amazing, So so he was the right guy to

(02:30):
do this right with Goldberg. Uh, Gunther carried him to
a great match. I really liked it. I thought it
was excellent, the perfect way to go out. I thought,
I thought everything was great about it. I really did.
And then Goldberg does the you know the thing in
the ring. Jenny and I, by the way, thought it
was very interesting that when Goldberg was making his comments,

(02:52):
you know, he he kind of kfabe. He apologizes to Atlanta,
you know, his his hometown, for for losing, and but
he also went out of his way to talk about
how everyone should be should be treated with respect, and
he really drove that point home. And Jenny and I
just both thought that was interesting in a very good way,
in a positive way. But and he even went back

(03:15):
to it later in his speech, but his speech kind
of got cut off, so we had to watch the
rest of it on YouTube. But I do think I'll
give Goldberg credit for this. He didn't just make it
all about himself. He talked about treating people with respect.
He gave credit to the people who were in the
ring with him.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
What's that not kicking him in the head right, Well, yes,
I thought.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
For your own shortcomings.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yes, I was not watching spots, not intentionally hurting people,
not etntionally hurting yourself when you're about to start a
major run to say the promotion. Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead,
I understand, I'll I'll let you kiss his roided as

(03:57):
over rated ass.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well I did.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I did like so, I liked the match, and I
did like what he had to say afterward. I thought
that was really good. Oh and I thought it was
cool as hell that when he did his old school
entrance where they go to the door and they knock
on the door and he comes out and they escort
him to the ring. I immediately recognized Doug Dillinger, and
I was like, you gotta be kidding that that's such

(04:20):
a throwback to his.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
WC and give himself a concussion.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yes, I know, but I thought that was really cool
that Doug Dillinger was one of the guys.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well you, I mean, Doug's a very busy guy, head
supervisor of the mall somewhere in Sheboygan, Wisconsin or wherever
the hell he's at.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Sure, Well, I'm sure, he's retired, but anyway, I thought
that was cool. I thought that was a really nice touch.
And then so I thought the match was good. I
liked his comments after But they did get cut off
on NBC. So if you wanted to see the rest
of his comments, because it was a live show and
they were up against the hour, you had to you
had to go on YouTube. Uh, and to see the

(05:05):
rest of his comments, which was fine. Here's what I'm
disappointed with Goldberg, who I thought went out on as
much of a high note as could possibly be expected,
which what again, I thought it was a great match.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Way more than he deserves.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I liked his I liked his speech. I really liked
his speech afterward. But then he's going around and complaining
about being cut off on the NBC live feed and
and talking about how he thinks it might have been
a rib they might have done it to him on purpose,
because you wouldn't do that to the Undertaker, right, But

(05:42):
and in reality, they actually would have if they had to,
if they were live on NBC and you've got a
heart out, they actually would have. They they would have
hated to do it, but they would have done that
to the Undertaker. If they had to, if it were
that so anyway, the point is he just he goes
out on such a high note, or so it seems.
But then he's going on Area o'hillani and these other
places and just and just bitching and just complaining about

(06:05):
how how his speech got cut off, and he's and
he's so disappointed, and he thinks it might have been
done to him on purpose, and it's like, dude, what why,
what is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
You went out the.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Best possible way. You should be happy with it. He
should be thrilled, and instead he's going around complaining, and
it was just it was that disappointed me. And I
don't understand. I don't understand why do that? Anyway, that's
my that's my whole thing. Go ahead, sir, because I

(06:39):
know what you want to say. There's those four words
that you're dying to say. I know what they are.
For audio listeners, Eric has taken a big sip of
his drink as we wait, we wait.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
I told you all so, yes, I told you all.
We did an episode dedicated to this wrestling bag of
monkey shit. In this episode, I told you everything wrong
with him. I told you he had an inflated ego.

(07:22):
I said he thought he was better than what he was.
How dare he compare himself to the Undertaker?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh wait, you.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Almost ended the Undertaker's life, so I mean, yeah, we
forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Look Bill Goldberg.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Bill Goldberg's ego will always be the worst part of
Bill Goldberg. And you can sit here and say, well,
you can say the same about Rick Flair. You can
say the same about uh Hull Cogan. Uh, you could
say the same about any great wrestler, but Brett Hart,

(08:08):
Sean Michaels. But the difference is Goldberg never respected this business.
How do we expect this man to respect his retirement
match when he did? He never learned respect for the
business in the first damn place. He never worked to

(08:29):
improve his craft, He never worked to do better. You know,
most wrestlers, if you went out there and had a
shit match with a wrestling machine like William Regal, you
would be humbled and go into the gym and be like,
I gotta learn.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Not Bill Goldberg.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Bill blamed William Regal, He blamed Kevin Sullivan, Terry Taylor.
I'm shocked he has n't blamed Uh, he has n't
blamed Jericho's personal security guy Ralphus because somehow it's got

(09:11):
to be Ralphus's fault at the match when Haywire, No, Bill,
it's your fault. It's your fault. Bill, it's your fault.
Brett Hart's career ended early. Bill, that is the summary
of your career. It's your fault.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
All right, Well, shall we move on?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I was right? When are you people going to learn that?
On these things? On complete nutter assholes? Because I am one.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
We know our own. I am right.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I know an asshole when I see it be because
I am an asshole myself.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I will fully take full accountability of that.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I could be the biggest asshole on God's green earth.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I know my own.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Bill Goldberg makes me look like a saint in the asshole.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Realm oh am?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I yeah, like no, no, in you know his whole thing.
He took pot shots at Gunther in his interview with
Ariel Hawani, where Yowa.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Let's address that, because that's another thing that bothered me.
You're right because he said, well, so this is what
I got from that, because he did say at one
point he acknowledged that Gunther was a good person to
be in the ring with and he did, he did
express respect for him. It was either in that conversation
or another conversation. But what he did say in the
Ariel Hawani interview that bothered me was he talked about

(10:58):
the spot. And by the way, I liked this spot.
This was a big part of what I thought was
good about the match.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I liked it when Gunther chopped him, you know, because
Gunther is known for those hard chops. Right when Gunther
chopped Goldberg and Goldberg just kind of stood there and
smiled and sort of laughed. I thought that was good
because to me, that was like classic Goldberg, that was
so much like anyone else I wouldn't have thought should
get away with that. But to me, it actually made

(11:26):
sense for Goldberg to do that, So I thought it
makes sense.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with it within that match.
My problem came after the match in Goldberg burying the.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Chops, well right, burying the not right, not burying Gunther,
but burying the chops specifically, because when he said on
Arielhwani was that he didn't plan to laugh, that that
was unintentional and the reason and see, but the weird
thing is to what what Goldberg was saying. In a sense,
he was actually complimenting Gunther, even if he did mean

(12:00):
it that way, if that makes sense, because what Goldberg
said was the chops end up being you know, it's
a worked chop, and the chop ended up being so
soft that he barely felt it, and that's what made
him laugh because he was expecting it to hurt. Now,
that's actually a compliment to gunthert really because that means
that Gunther's chop is very safe, that it's not going

(12:22):
to hurt you, even though it looks incredibly painful. I
don't know, I don't know how you work that chop,
but apparently you can. So in a sense, he's giving
credit to Gunther. But why would he even say that though?
Like why give away that it didn't really hurt and
that and that it was fake and he was laughing
because he was surprised at how well worked it was,

(12:42):
you know that, Like why ruin the spot that was
like one of the highlights, that was really the highlight
of the match.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I thought, I think I think the big thing here
is and we'll get into this when we recapped SummerSlam.
Yeah more, But the was a big part of the
match he had with cmpunk. And when a guy like
Goldberg says that, it diminishes that in all future matches.

(13:16):
So good work, Bill, Yeah, yeah, you're ruined the work.
Good work. You took away a prime move of Gunther's
arsenal because now there is that.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
You can't suspend disbelief.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, fifty eight year old man just buried Gunther's chops.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, and and why do that? So that's that's an
example of him because I don't think he intentionally was
trying to disrespect Gunther.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I don't think he was. No, I don't think he was.
I think he was, but I think he I think
he's not. I think after all these years, he's still
just not smart to the business. And in some ways, Oh.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Once again Eric is right.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
He doesn't respect the business. Well, thank god he's gone.
Thank god he's gone. You know what, you know what,
I hope, I hope he does another retirement match for
ad W. I hope it's with someone like will Ospray,

(14:25):
and will Ospray just spikes him with a tiger driver.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
For the love of god, what a fucking chod.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Uh. Yeah, Eric was right, that's all we need to
take away from this.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
How does gun their work? I mean, like, how do
how do you work that chop? You don't I just
assumed it legitimately hurts, but it does legitimately hurt.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
There's no way it didn't legitimately hurt.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Because I just put up a picture of for those
watching online, if you're actually watching the video of the show,
I just put up a picture of you can see
the handprint of Gunther's hand going into Goldberg's chest and
Goldberg just smiling.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
There's no way how do you do that. There's no
way it didn't hurt.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
You look at Punk's chest after SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
You look at uh when he had the match with
Elia Dragonov in NXT.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
You look at guys that have had Welt's bust open
due to Gunther's chops. Yeah, I mean no, Bill once
again shows his fundamental misunderstanding of this business.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Like in Bill, Bill will tell you, oh, everyone knows
it's a work. They do. Bill.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's the magic of wrestling, though, is that even if
they know it's a work, they could still suspend that disbelief.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And you took it away from Gunther.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Mm hmm. All right, so moron, should we move on?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Please?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Okay,
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