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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So our opening match, our opening news story this week.
M JF just winning the a w A world title.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I don't know what how many times it has been
now I to watch this is only a second time.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yep y seems hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm a big fan of m j F. I don't
actually watch his work on a regular basis because I'm
just too busy. I don't pay that much attention to
a W in that sense. But I think m JF
is remarkable what I have seen of him over the
past five or six years in a W. I think
he's so I'm glad. I mean, I kind of think
he's he's almost he's almost too big in a sense
(00:37):
for a W, you know what I mean, Like he
should be he should be made eventing, WrestleMania, I think.
But you know, but but I'm glad he's I'm glad
he's champion. I don't even know who he beat.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Who did he beat?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Was it hang was it Joe or.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Samoa?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Hangman, Page and Swerve Strickland. It was a four way.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha? I like all those guys.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Again, I don't get to see very much of their work.
But I don't know what do you guys think.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I I mean, I've long been saying MJF should be
AEW's champion. Yeah, And I think when Austin messaged me
and told me, I said, about time. Yeah, I think
ae W could really set themselves up for some major
(01:27):
success here, because if you think about it, they've laid
the groundwork to have a great heel, legendary heel versus
a legendary face in MJF and Swerve Strickland. Those two
could go at it and chase each other for the
(01:50):
next two years and fans wouldn't grow tired of it.
To me that this is the equivalent of printing money,
the big thing is and us I'll throw it over
to Austin after I say this is Can ae W
booking do it? Can they? Can they do the right booking?
(02:15):
Because it's just so simple. The story is right there,
everything is there. Can they book it right and really
make some big dollars on this, right?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'll see. That's kind of the thing with AW unfortunately,
is the guy wins the title and then that was
kind of the whole story for Tony. It was just
him winning the title. He doesn't really set the main
problem with aw's World Champions as of late is they
don't really set up the story afterwards for them. But
(02:53):
with MJF winning the title, I think it's the right move.
I feel like AW is in a place right now
where a heel being the champion is a lot better
than a baby face being the champion because of how
many guys that you can have him have Chase Uh,
Eric said Swerve. I like the idea of Swerve hangman
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can get a one on one rematch.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Finally, uh I think you build up to swerve Austin.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just talking about opponents for him. I
mean I feel like I feel like Kenny Omega's name
should always be there. I know he's not He's not
healthy at the moment, but when he does get healthy,
he should be there.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And the thing with AW is when are they finally
when or when are they eventually going to make will
ospray their guy?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know you mentioned health with Kenny Omega. I'm a
huge Kenny Omega fan and I always will be a
huge Kenny Omega fan. I think he is one of
the greatest of all time to ever do it. I
don't know if you can trust his health in the
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main event situation. And that's tough because he could do
a great run with MJF. Will Ospray, I think is great.
I think I would love to see Kyle Fletcher in MJF.
You're gonna have to do like you're gonna have to
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do like a turn with Kyle Fletcher or MJS. One
of them's gonna have to turn, but more than likely Fletcher.
But I think there are a lot of good possibilities
if ae W doesn't go ADHD booking and just decide,
(04:58):
let's okay, it's been three months, this is getting old.
Let's go to the next guy.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think the MJF is the guy you roll the
ball with. You build him as this monster heel so
that way when that babyface does beat him. In my
opinions for Strickland, it is that much of a bigger deal.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Uh. I see, I see what you're saying. And you know,
MJF is one to kind of have those longer title reigns, right,
I mean his first aw title reign, he had it
for like four hundred days or something like that. I
think he's still the longest reigning AW world champion in history. Yes,
I think Swerve could definitely be the guy to run
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with MJF. The only thing, the only kind of reason
I'm bringing up will Osprey is all In is back
in Wembley.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Stadium, Austin. You would be more in tune with this
than I would be. Is there been any new updates
on will Ospray's health.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Uh, outside of what he's saying himself on Twitter or
whatever you want to call it now, uh, acts, yeah, whatever.
It's basically like he wants to be ready by like
January February. I just don't see that being a possibility
because we're basically already in January right now. But he
(06:26):
probably could be ready by all In. Could you build
a story by then? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Uh. And do you want to remove it from h
MJF at that point?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean we could be looking
at August and MJF could be on the run of
a lifetime and it's like do we take the belt
off him?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But I mean, at the end of the day, as
long as you're putting nasses in seats and eyes on screens,
you keep your champions as is. Yeah, I mean, ratings
and sales are what matters here, and I've always said
(07:04):
this with MJF. You can just print money if you
do it correctly, and I hope they do because he
deserves this opportunity for it to be his run. Even
his first run, there was always this undercurrent of the
Internet wrestling community and others kind of saying, oh, well,
(07:27):
should they give it to Kenny Omega, Should they give
it to Hangman? Should they give it to swear Strickland.
There was never solid he was the guy. Yeah, he
needs that run.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I'm Ja's first run was kind of like kind
of halted in the middle because of the whole Adam
Cole thing that happened in a.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Story that never took off, or they dragged it out
too long, or whatever your belief is. It was a
train wreck. Yeah, the whole The Devil and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I mean, I've I watched AW somewhat regularly. If I
have time to watch it, I watch it. The Devil storyline,
legit might be the worst story that company has ever done,
and way too long. Yes, yes, and it was No,
it was no fault of Tony's I mean it kind
of was Tony's fault for dragging it out as long
as it was. But you know, Adam Cole, you're expecting
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him to be ready by a certain time. He just
want And then MJF gets hurt, MJF comes back as
a babyface, and now the roles are switched somehow, and
it's like.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And they had opportunities, sorry to cut you off, Austin,
they had opportunities to pivot, yeah, to go in another
direction with it, and they just never did.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Ultimately, in my opinion, Samoa and Joe beating MJF for
the title at World's End should have been a way
bigger moment than what it was.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I watched that on YouTube today as us scrolling through
videos and let me just say, you could hear a
rap piss on cotton when that happened. It just didn't
feel big at all. So I you know the bit,
what a heel champion should always do is set up
(09:22):
for the next big babyface champion, right, and if if
the heel doesn't do that by the end of his run,
it wasn't a good run. And I'm sorry Samoa Joe
beating MJF. I didn't agree with it. Then no knock
on Smojo I don't agree with it now MJF was
(09:46):
legitimately injured. But there's other Again, there's always other things
you can do, in other directions you can go. I
feel like Tony Kahan gets an idea in his head
and he just sticks with that idea no matter what happens.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And I mean not to call you off, but to
go with that with Tony has a has a thing
stuck in his head. Think about the Death Riders and
how long Moxley's run just was. And yes, Moxley, all
credit to Moxley. Moxley somehow has made it work and
now he is one of the best parts of AAW.
(10:22):
But there's no you. I feel like someone would be
straight up blind to me if they told me, oh,
Moxley's aw Totter run was good, Like that run was
great all the way through. Like no, like they.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Totally ditched the invasion part of the Death Riders. Like
once the injuries happened to the elite with Kenny Omega
and then the young Bucks, one of them got injured,
it just fell apart and it's like, no, you've got
to keep up this story. You got to be a pivot, yeah,
(10:57):
or you got to logically end it, not just stop
doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That's something that's something I've always hated. I mean, that's
something Vince used to do in w You just give
up on stuff for no reason.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
To the fans intelligence, it is like we know, like
we we're not just gonna forget right, like you want
us to cheer this group that two weeks ago was
trying to destroy ae W.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah. And uh, I mean, like I said before, like
credit to credit to Moxley. I think Moxley's work sence
all in has been absolutely incredible and his perform his
performance at World's End kind of made the baby Face
turn believable. But now it's like, and I know we're
kind of getting off pace with m JF. We'll we'll
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tie it back to m JF. And it's kind of
the same thing that happened to MJF in a way. Yeah,
he was a heel, worked himself to organically become a
babyface and then and then it kind of fell apart
after that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But that once again ties back to the original point
of Aw's booking woes. You have to know how to
book these guys when things organically happen. You can't just
you can't just be like, oh, go with what the
audience wants. You have to you have to have steps
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in a direction for the story. I think once a
story goes off track, they're literally trying to throw poop
at the wall to see if it sticks. And No,
that's why I've said this, and I've said this since
AW was probably ten months old. You gotta have wrestling
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guys doing your booking. Guys that have actually been in
the ring, Guys that have actually been backstage, guys that
know psychology and know how to not just work the
audience for one event, but for one month, two months,
three months, four months, all of that, and.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
They have to be able to they have to understand
the concept of long term episodic storytelling, right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You can't just go the way AW books is like
one week of TV is one episode and then it's
a new episode the following week. It's like they book
it like it's an episode of the Twilight Zone. It's
in the anthology. It's one story. Oh, that story's over,
(13:48):
new story next week.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I kind of look at Aw's booking sometimes is In
the WWE video games, they have a mode called Universe Mode,
where it's basically you get the book a show however
you want, you get. Yeah, you get to put any
match together that you want. And I feel like that's
what Tony does sometimes where he's like he looks at
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his roster and he goes, oh, these two could be
a good match, and then they get announced on Dynamite
or what are Collision or whatever, and it's like, Okay,
have these two ever interacted before a day in their life? No? Okay,
well the match.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
How many times on this program have I said that's
the problem with ae w Oh yeah, yeah, And so
it's refreshing to have someone else say it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
One good thing though with MJF is at least you've
got somebody at the top who can kind of overcome
that overcome bad booking in one sense in terms of
you'll get you'll get excellent, excellent promos, no matter what
kind of shit he's added, you'll get you'll get fantastic promos.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And he will get he could get over a broomstick.
So you know, a guy like that, I think you
keep the belt on him for as long as you
can because he does so much for the company. Yes, yes,
(15:17):
and absolutely.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I know MJF is kind of known for his promos
because he is one of the best at him. But
MJF n ring also is one of the best, one
of the best in ring guys. I think aw has
I think.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
He's one of the best workers in the business.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yes, I agree, I agree because and I dare say
he's the He is the most complete professional wrestler in
the business today.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, because he I mean you you hear wrestlers say
all the time, less is more, and I don't think
any like, I don't think anyone really personifies that more
than MJF. Like, he pulls out, he pulls out the
he pulls out the big spots when the moment calls
for it. But if you were to watch him week
to week, you know, it's a very I feel like
(16:11):
basic is the wrong word, but like nuanced. Yeah, it's
very like it's almost old school in a way, and
like old school works. And given the situation, he's even
old school.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
He's probably one of the only he's the only professional
wrestler that believes in k fabe. Yes, and it works
for him, Like I have I very rarely have seen people,
Oh why doesn't he break k fade? Yeah, I read that,
and I'm like, why don't you shut the fuck up.
(16:45):
Your opinions do not matter because they're wrong. MJF. His
character should never break k fade.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
No, I feel like he know I don't. I was
trying to go back to if I've heard if I've
ever heard of him breaking k fab and I don't
think I have, Like even I mean, he.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Was even in character at his wedding.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, like public appearances, he's in character on social media.
He's definitely in character all the time. I feel like
even if you ran into him in the street, he
would be in character.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Like yeah, like I.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Assume if you know him personally, he's not like the
big asshole that you see on TV.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He would love it if he was. There would be
a part of me that would be like, you know what,
I would love to have a friend like that.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Everyone's sitting around hanging out and they're like, hey, do
you want to invite Maxwell over for this football game?
In everyone unanimously no, Yeah, he's an asshole. Yeah, I
would love it. I'd be the one to say sure.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
The thing that really makes me respect MJF. Two, Well,
I like everything about him, but when he had the
the iron Man match with Daniel Bryan and to see
these guys I'm sorry, Brian Danielson, I apologize at that point.
And to see these guys not only uh manage to
you know, because there's always that challenge. They got to
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fill an hour and they ended up doing what was
it an hour and twenty minutes. Yeah, the balls of that,
the balls of that to to be able to pull
that off, it's just incredible.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
And not only not only pull it off, but it
was an incredible match. It was it was one of
the better Iron Man matches I think I've ever.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Read on both your parades here. Uh oh, Breton Sean
had ninety minutes planned for their Iron Man.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
M JF and Brian was the better match. No, I
would say, so.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, I would say you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm gonna agree with Austin what.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, I'm gonna agree with a ridiculous It breaks my
heart to say it. You know, I love both Brenda Sean.
But let's go to the next subject. All right, we're
not come on topic number two.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Alright, alright, you ready for shawing over bro
So our opening match, our opening news story this week.
M JF just winning the a w A world title.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I don't know what how many times it has been
now I to watch this is only a second time.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yep y seems hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm a big fan of m j F. I don't
actually watch his work on a regular basis because I'm
just too busy. I don't pay that much attention to
a W in that sense. But I think m JF
is remarkable what I have seen of him over the
past five or six years in a W. I think
he's so I'm glad. I mean, I kind of think
he's he's almost he's almost too big in a sense
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for a W, you know what I mean, Like he
should be he should be made eventing, WrestleMania, I think.
But you know, but but I'm glad he's I'm glad
he's champion. I don't even know who he beat.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Who did he beat?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Was it hang was it Joe or.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Samoa?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Hangman, Page and Swerve Strickland. It was a four way.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha? I like all those guys.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Again, I don't get to see very much of their work.
But I don't know what do you guys think.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I I mean, I've long been saying MJF should be
AEW's champion. Yeah, And I think when Austin messaged me
and told me, I said, about time. Yeah, I think
ae W could really set themselves up for some major
(01:27):
success here, because if you think about it, they've laid
the groundwork to have a great heel, legendary heel versus
a legendary face in MJF and Swerve Strickland. Those two
could go at it and chase each other for the
(01:50):
next two years and fans wouldn't grow tired of it.
To me that this is the equivalent of printing money,
the big thing is and us I'll throw it over
to Austin after I say this is Can ae W
booking do it? Can they? Can they do the right booking?
(02:15):
Because it's just so simple. The story is right there,
everything is there. Can they book it right and really
make some big dollars on this, right?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'll see. That's kind of the thing with AW unfortunately,
is the guy wins the title and then that was
kind of the whole story for Tony. It was just
him winning the title. He doesn't really set the main
problem with aw's World Champions as of late is they
don't really set up the story afterwards for them. But
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with MJF winning the title, I think it's the right move.
I feel like AW is in a place right now
where a heel being the champion is a lot better
than a baby face being the champion because of how
many guys that you can have him have Chase Uh,
Eric said Swerve. I like the idea of Swerve hangman
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can get a one on one rematch.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Finally, uh I think you build up to swerve Austin.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just talking about opponents for him. I
mean I feel like I feel like Kenny Omega's name
should always be there. I know he's not He's not
healthy at the moment, but when he does get healthy,
he should be there.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And the thing with AW is when are they finally
when or when are they eventually going to make will
ospray their guy?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know you mentioned health with Kenny Omega. I'm a
huge Kenny Omega fan and I always will be a
huge Kenny Omega fan. I think he is one of
the greatest of all time to ever do it. I
don't know if you can trust his health in the
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main event situation. And that's tough because he could do
a great run with MJF. Will Ospray, I think is great.
I think I would love to see Kyle Fletcher in MJF.
You're gonna have to do like you're gonna have to
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do like a turn with Kyle Fletcher or MJS. One
of them's gonna have to turn, but more than likely Fletcher.
But I think there are a lot of good possibilities
if ae W doesn't go ADHD booking and just decide,
(04:58):
let's okay, it's been three months, this is getting old.
Let's go to the next guy.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think the MJF is the guy you roll the
ball with. You build him as this monster heel so
that way when that babyface does beat him. In my
opinions for Strickland, it is that much of a bigger deal.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Uh. I see, I see what you're saying. And you know,
MJF is one to kind of have those longer title reigns, right,
I mean his first aw title reign, he had it
for like four hundred days or something like that. I
think he's still the longest reigning AW world champion in history. Yes,
I think Swerve could definitely be the guy to run
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with MJF. The only thing, the only kind of reason
I'm bringing up will Osprey is all In is back
in Wembley.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Stadium, Austin. You would be more in tune with this
than I would be. Is there been any new updates
on will Ospray's health.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Uh, outside of what he's saying himself on Twitter or
whatever you want to call it now, uh, acts, yeah, whatever.
It's basically like he wants to be ready by like
January February. I just don't see that being a possibility
because we're basically already in January right now. But he
(06:26):
probably could be ready by all In. Could you build
a story by then? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Uh. And do you want to remove it from h
MJF at that point?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean we could be looking
at August and MJF could be on the run of
a lifetime and it's like do we take the belt
off him?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But I mean, at the end of the day, as
long as you're putting nasses in seats and eyes on screens,
you keep your champions as is. Yeah, I mean, ratings
and sales are what matters here, and I've always said
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this with MJF. You can just print money if you
do it correctly, and I hope they do because he
deserves this opportunity for it to be his run. Even
his first run, there was always this undercurrent of the
Internet wrestling community and others kind of saying, oh, well,
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should they give it to Kenny Omega, Should they give
it to Hangman? Should they give it to swear Strickland.
There was never solid he was the guy. Yeah, he
needs that run.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I'm Ja's first run was kind of like kind
of halted in the middle because of the whole Adam
Cole thing that happened in a.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Story that never took off, or they dragged it out
too long, or whatever your belief is. It was a
train wreck. Yeah, the whole The Devil and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I mean, I've I watched AW somewhat regularly. If I
have time to watch it, I watch it. The Devil storyline,
legit might be the worst story that company has ever done,
and way too long. Yes, yes, and it was No,
it was no fault of Tony's I mean it kind
of was Tony's fault for dragging it out as long
as it was. But you know, Adam Cole, you're expecting
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him to be ready by a certain time. He just
want And then MJF gets hurt, MJF comes back as
a babyface, and now the roles are switched somehow, and
it's like.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And they had opportunities, sorry to cut you off, Austin,
they had opportunities to pivot, yeah, to go in another
direction with it, and they just never did.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Ultimately, in my opinion, Samoa and Joe beating MJF for
the title at World's End should have been a way
bigger moment than what it was.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I watched that on YouTube today as us scrolling through
videos and let me just say, you could hear a
rap piss on cotton when that happened. It just didn't
feel big at all. So I you know the bit,
what a heel champion should always do is set up
(09:22):
for the next big babyface champion, right, and if if
the heel doesn't do that by the end of his run,
it wasn't a good run. And I'm sorry Samoa Joe
beating MJF. I didn't agree with it. Then no knock
on Smojo I don't agree with it now MJF was
(09:46):
legitimately injured. But there's other Again, there's always other things
you can do, in other directions you can go. I
feel like Tony Kahan gets an idea in his head
and he just sticks with that idea no matter what happens.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And I mean not to call you off, but to
go with that with Tony has a has a thing
stuck in his head. Think about the Death Riders and
how long Moxley's run just was. And yes, Moxley, all
credit to Moxley. Moxley somehow has made it work and
now he is one of the best parts of AAW.
(10:22):
But there's no you. I feel like someone would be
straight up blind to me if they told me, oh,
Moxley's aw Totter run was good, Like that run was
great all the way through. Like no, like they.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Totally ditched the invasion part of the Death Riders. Like
once the injuries happened to the elite with Kenny Omega
and then the young Bucks, one of them got injured,
it just fell apart and it's like, no, you've got
to keep up this story. You got to be a pivot, yeah,
(10:57):
or you got to logically end it, not just stop
doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That's something that's something I've always hated. I mean, that's
something Vince used to do in w You just give
up on stuff for no reason.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
To the fans intelligence, it is like we know, like
we we're not just gonna forget right, like you want
us to cheer this group that two weeks ago was
trying to destroy ae W.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah. And uh, I mean, like I said before, like
credit to credit to Moxley. I think Moxley's work sence
all in has been absolutely incredible and his perform his
performance at World's End kind of made the baby Face
turn believable. But now it's like, and I know we're
kind of getting off pace with m JF. We'll we'll
(11:51):
tie it back to m JF. And it's kind of
the same thing that happened to MJF in a way. Yeah,
he was a heel, worked himself to organically become a
babyface and then and then it kind of fell apart
after that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But that once again ties back to the original point
of Aw's booking woes. You have to know how to
book these guys when things organically happen. You can't just
you can't just be like, oh, go with what the
audience wants. You have to you have to have steps
(12:31):
in a direction for the story. I think once a
story goes off track, they're literally trying to throw poop
at the wall to see if it sticks. And No,
that's why I've said this, and I've said this since
AW was probably ten months old. You gotta have wrestling
(12:57):
guys doing your booking. Guys that have actually been in
the ring, Guys that have actually been backstage, guys that
know psychology and know how to not just work the
audience for one event, but for one month, two months,
three months, four months, all of that, and.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
They have to be able to they have to understand
the concept of long term episodic storytelling, right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You can't just go the way AW books is like
one week of TV is one episode and then it's
a new episode the following week. It's like they book
it like it's an episode of the Twilight Zone. It's
in the anthology. It's one story. Oh, that story's over,
(13:48):
new story next week.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I kind of look at Aw's booking sometimes is In
the WWE video games, they have a mode called Universe Mode,
where it's basically you get the book a show however
you want, you get. Yeah, you get to put any
match together that you want. And I feel like that's
what Tony does sometimes where he's like he looks at
(14:11):
his roster and he goes, oh, these two could be
a good match, and then they get announced on Dynamite
or what are Collision or whatever, and it's like, Okay,
have these two ever interacted before a day in their life? No? Okay,
well the match.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
How many times on this program have I said that's
the problem with ae w Oh yeah, yeah, And so
it's refreshing to have someone else say it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
One good thing though with MJF is at least you've
got somebody at the top who can kind of overcome
that overcome bad booking in one sense in terms of
you'll get you'll get excellent, excellent promos, no matter what
kind of shit he's added, you'll get you'll get fantastic promos.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And he will get he could get over a broomstick.
So you know, a guy like that, I think you
keep the belt on him for as long as you
can because he does so much for the company. Yes, yes,
(15:17):
and absolutely.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I know MJF is kind of known for his promos
because he is one of the best at him. But
MJF n ring also is one of the best, one
of the best in ring guys. I think aw has
I think.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
He's one of the best workers in the business.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yes, I agree, I agree because and I dare say
he's the He is the most complete professional wrestler in
the business today.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, because he I mean you you hear wrestlers say
all the time, less is more, and I don't think
any like, I don't think anyone really personifies that more
than MJF. Like, he pulls out, he pulls out the
he pulls out the big spots when the moment calls
for it. But if you were to watch him week
to week, you know, it's a very I feel like
(16:11):
basic is the wrong word, but like nuanced. Yeah, it's
very like it's almost old school in a way, and
like old school works. And given the situation, he's even
old school.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
He's probably one of the only he's the only professional
wrestler that believes in k fabe. Yes, and it works
for him, Like I have I very rarely have seen people,
Oh why doesn't he break k fade? Yeah, I read that,
and I'm like, why don't you shut the fuck up.
(16:45):
Your opinions do not matter because they're wrong. MJF. His
character should never break k fade.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
No, I feel like he know I don't. I was
trying to go back to if I've heard if I've
ever heard of him breaking k fab and I don't
think I have, Like even I mean, he.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Was even in character at his wedding.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, like public appearances, he's in character on social media.
He's definitely in character all the time. I feel like
even if you ran into him in the street, he
would be in character.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Like yeah, like I.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Assume if you know him personally, he's not like the
big asshole that you see on TV.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He would love it if he was. There would be
a part of me that would be like, you know what,
I would love to have a friend like that.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Everyone's sitting around hanging out and they're like, hey, do
you want to invite Maxwell over for this football game?
In everyone unanimously no, Yeah, he's an asshole. Yeah, I
would love it. I'd be the one to say sure.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
The thing that really makes me respect MJF. Two, Well,
I like everything about him, but when he had the
the iron Man match with Daniel Bryan and to see
these guys I'm sorry, Brian Danielson, I apologize at that point.
And to see these guys not only uh manage to
you know, because there's always that challenge. They got to
(18:14):
fill an hour and they ended up doing what was
it an hour and twenty minutes. Yeah, the balls of that,
the balls of that to to be able to pull
that off, it's just incredible.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
And not only not only pull it off, but it
was an incredible match. It was it was one of
the better Iron Man matches I think I've ever.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Read on both your parades here. Uh oh, Breton Sean
had ninety minutes planned for their Iron Man.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
M JF and Brian was the better match. No, I
would say, so.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, I would say you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm gonna agree with Austin what.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, I'm gonna agree with a ridiculous It breaks my
heart to say it. You know, I love both Brenda Sean.
But let's go to the next subject. All right, we're
not come on topic number two.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Alright, alright, you ready for shawing over bro
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